Talkin’ Cowboys: Great Wall of Dallas

Kyle Youmans, Patrik Walker and Isaiah Stanback discuss the events of the draft and breakdown the Cowboy's picks.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Cowboys. This He's Talking Cowboys, springing live.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
From the Dallas Cowboys World head Hours at the Star
in Frisco, Seconds Dot Tixon.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
And now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez
and Kyle Yeomans.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
It's a post draft edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by
Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco,
Texas and the s WBC studios. Welcome in everybody. We
have Patrick No c. Walker, we have Isaiah stand Back,
We've got Chris Beam in the back on Kyle Yeoman's
glad you're with us, all my goodness. A lot to

(01:02):
talk about the last weekend. A lot has happened, A
lot has happened in including Isaiah stand Back got his guy?

Speaker 4 (01:12):
You did get you?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
You got your guy?

Speaker 4 (01:13):
I mean I got you. How you feeling?

Speaker 2 (01:15):
You know, said you wanted the offensive line.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
That's what you gots. We're gonna we have a whole
show to talk about football. What's up, man? We have
a show to talk about football.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
But listen, we cannot buy my guy watch pop in here,
come in here.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
We're not gonna play you any extra I want to
There's no there's no extra check good man, looking nice man.
I thought you had a meeting today and you were conducting,
going on the wrist and going on the neck, talking cowboys.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Wayman, some of that. Just listen man, do regular official.
I appreciate you, man that vibe.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
Listen man. I had a playing cole. I had a
plan for how I was gonna dress this thing up.
You know what I'm saying. I was like, all right,
my first time on big TV. I just can't have
information and I have a dress plan. So we get
the day two and day three and they say, all
right about you got to wed a polo?

Speaker 4 (02:10):
You mean?

Speaker 5 (02:11):
So I was like, well, what if I take the
y mean but mix it up with sponsor money. This
money way bigger when we pay you back. Put the
damn polo on. I was like, all right, mat cool,
whatever you want to do. So I got one last
day on the draft show my damn.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
You got the kerchief. You know I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
I am making I'm making this a lot of money.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
About this is this is perfect because we got some
stuff to talk about. Come on, hold on, hold on,
we got business.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Got to take care because I know we're about to
talk a lot about the draft, right but before we
talk about the draft, we need to hear from Kyle
about how he did at the home run derby.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Because he's been, he's been, he's been talking about it.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, what's what I may well? First off, we raised
forty one hundred dollars from March.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
As an event, it was one hundred and one hundred
and twenty plus thousand dollars for the Salvation and Army
and local charity.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
So awesome.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
But for the third straight time that I've competed, I've
made it to the final two and then I've lost
third straight time.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
I'm the nineties buffaloud. But you know what, we celebrate
our brothers around here. You know what, can we go
to the beamer? Can you come here for a second.
Let's go to watch what we're doing. This is perfect
that you guys are here. I mean, we this is
a family affair, so we do not let things go unaddressed.
So this is for our brother right here, mister k Y.

(03:44):
We got go ahead, Ky, holding that up, man. This
is we would never let you know, we would never
let you go. Listen, I'm not going to say the
whole nickname here.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
I called him some The plate says Reliant Media Home
Run Derby three time runner up, Kyle Yeoman.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
It's a bubblehead. It is true to Kyle.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
I let him talk to me like that. Man, This
is yeah, my brothers.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
How we're walking about. I am my brothers kid. You
know what I'm saying. How am I gonna let him go?

Speaker 6 (04:28):
You know?

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Without being.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Everything? Yeah, we're already, We're getting there. We'll see you
here in a minute. But good seeing you, Darren.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
I refuse to talk about got the kerchief.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
That's all I need that.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
I refuse to come on this show today and talked
about the achievements of all these young men right without
acknowledging our very own mister, Kyle Yeomans.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Three time runner, three times running up. That's it, three
time runner U.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
This is great.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Love this man.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
That's from your crew.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
You know what I'm saying. We love your motivation.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
I love you man. The breakthrough is coming, man, if
I trust the process.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
I was, I was gonna spot next year for for Pat,
but we're gonna have to get Pat another spot. We're
gonna have to find a way to get him in.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
I don't know why they're playing it like that. I
tried to get in both. I tried to slide. I
tried to get in.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
They didn't try to minimize the number.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Man, they don't want to let me talking cats on
the same thing platform.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Or they don't want to they don't want to lose
that much money yet they will be one two or whatever.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
They're definitely gonna max out if I get out there.
That's that right now.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Thanks guys, this is hilarious. Well done. I'll take a picture.
I'll put it on there.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
There we go, put it on.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Start the show, Yeah, creblehead Kate. Wow, we got Eric
man Beam coming in on the bed.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Start. Now we can talk about these young bucks.

Speaker 7 (05:47):
Now.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
They got your guys, they got they got a guy
I didn't have.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
I didn't necessarily have a guy, but I had a
positional need and they got and they got it right.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
I know.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
There's a lot of talk and there's a lot of
pushback on mister Isaiah about what I felt was most
needed for this team going into the draft with the
number twelve overall pick. If they were to stay there,
and most people wanted to most people wanted a receiver.
We talked about it last week and I was firm
instead fast on saying that we need a big fella

(06:16):
in the middle to replace mister Zach Martin being there
and be a maller, somebody who can hold down the
fort so you can plug and play. So it does
not matter who you put in the backfield. It does
not matter or that it doesn't matter who you put
in the back And you need somebody to protect Dak.
Dak's coming off a hamstring literal tear right off the
butt cheet, okay, So you need somebody to ensure that

(06:37):
he's not the official exactly the official term.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
You look it up. Yeah, it's on Wikipedia.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
He tore his buttcheek off, okay, So he needs somebody
to ensure that he's not running around excessively, right, So you.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Have somebody to protect Dak, and you have somebody to
open up the holes.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Now, so you literally have the Great Wall of Dallas
out here moving things off the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
And I don't force see anybody having an issue with that. Now.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
I know where we're gonna go with this conversation, and
I know we have a lot to talk about. Everybody's
gonna say.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
We didn't take a receiver. Yep, who's everybody?

Speaker 1 (07:13):
It lost me. Now, there were some undrafted free agents
that we were able to go with tain them. I'm
sure we'll talk about them as well. But most people
are concerned and rightfully. So it's about to say that
you don't have a sure number two receiver right.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
Now on the roster. And that brings me back to
what I was saying about dying on my heel. Come
on with it. I think that there's a big play
coming sooner than later.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
I agree, maybe, and that that eas me to this point.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Go ahead better, Okay, So first and foremost, Hi, I'm
the guy that wanted the wide receiver.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Hello, that's me. Hello, guy, that's me. That being said,
who was my wide receiver? It was tip absolutely gone
to number eight?

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Gone?

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Right?

Speaker 3 (07:56):
So then the initially I wanted it to be if
it was going to be golden, I was like, I
wanted a trade back. We had that conversation here talking cowboys,
and it was like, maybe if they don't trade back,
it could happen at twelve. And I said, if it
happens at twelve, for golden. I'm fine with it, but
that's not ideal.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
And if you get a golden and you have a turpen,
it's kind of the same.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
One day, that being said, the Cowboys could not find
a dance partner the trade back. They did attempt on
multiple occasions to trade back out of twelve, but basically
they were being low balled for lack of a better
way to presure. So they held tied at twelve and
then they said, hey, we're gonna go ahead and do
what Isaiah stand Back wants us to do. I'm going
to attack these trenches, they added Tyler Booker, I'm completely

(08:34):
fine with that. Is that what I wanted to know,
what I wanted, got taken away from me by the
Carolina Panthers. Okay, so now what we got instead is,
like you said, a Mauler at right guard and Tyler
and a leader and a leader one percent. If you've watched,
if you watched this young man's press conference, Now this
is not hyperbole. I've watched a bunch of press conference
and say the least, I've watched a lot of rookie

(08:55):
press conferences. To say the least, I've met a lot
of rookies at the airport as they're coming in from draft, etc.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Etc. Some have been very well spoken. I've not seen
one like this.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
He's different.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
You talk about just the leadership, the IQ both football
and academic, but also the maturity, the wisdom in which
he spoke and he addressed the public, and he showed
the love to his family and the messaging that he
gave to his younger brother and things like that. That's
the type of culture Brian Shannaheimer is trying to instill
in this locker room. So when you talk about leadership

(09:28):
and you're talking about on field ability, is he perfect?

Speaker 4 (09:30):
No, he's not perfect. He's a rookie.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
It's not going to buy perfect. But will he come
in day one and make an impact as a starter?
I wholeheartedly believe he was.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
I want to throw something to the two historians of
the group, because you guys are historians. You guys know
I go with the president and stuff. I lean on
you guys for your ST's there. I'm not one to
necessarily try to mimic what has been done in the past,
but I am one that needs to acknowledge what has
been done in the past, because otherwise, you know, you
might fall into some of the same. Oh's if you

(09:59):
don't I acknowledge what's taking place in the past. So,
the last time that Dallas Cowboys had three first round
offensive linemen in a four year period, Yeah, on the
on the editor, five offensive starters.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
What was going on? Who was there?

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Tyren Smith, Travis Frederick, Zach Martin's Yeah, three pretty good ones,
three pretty good. Now that's crazy because most people are
gonna say, well, you have Tyler Smith, who's balling out
as an All Pro. Right, you bring in Tyler Booker now,
right that we got the three t's. Right, You've got
Tyler Booker and Tyler Giden. Everybody's gonna say, well, Tyler Giden,
even though he's a first round pick, he hasn't shown up.

(10:35):
You're right, But isn't that why you bring in the
best offensive line coach in college? Isn't that why you
bring in the best offensive line coach in the NFL?
And if I remember correctly, I was on the show,
I believe it was Talking Cowboys where I said, there
is no scenario where you bring in the two best
offensive line coaches from college and the NFL on the

(10:56):
same team and you don't give them some toy to
play with. Right said that you're not going to bring
into best defensive line coach Right and Cotton Aaron Whitecott
White Cotton. Sorry, I still learning on to White Cotton.
You don't bring him in and not give him something
as as a fresh new toy. Indeed, So were those
not the first two.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Picks of the draft?

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah? And they were both high on their board. That's
the thing is the biggest conversation. I think what I've
seen that frustrates me. I get the wide receiver conversation
because I wanted Ted Row at mcmah like I liked
Matthew Golden up there until he was going to be there.
He wasn't there. To you, that's plain and simple. I
commend them, and we've talked about this a little bit

(11:39):
on the Draft show. I commend them for sticking to
their because they one hundred percent stuck to their breat
was offensive line their number one need no, we sat
here and talked about that. Was Ed Rusher their number
one need No. We talked about it. But could they
both have been bolstered?

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Could they both help your football team with the right personnel?

Speaker 4 (11:58):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (11:58):
I love the Donovan as rock up pick might be
my favorite pick in the whole draft. I like savone Ravel.
I like that one as well. All of those things
are great. That one's more of a need need and
a value.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
He's yeah, you will see No healthy is awesome. You will.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
It's only been hurt one. I get it.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
I'm a guy who came in hurt too, so I
respect it. I respect it, so I'm looking forward to it.
But kind of going back to it.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
The thought process that frustrates me is, oh, Booker was
a reach. Booker was a reach. It wasn't to them,
And that's the planets. If you're looking at consensus draft boards,
I get it. That's the media personnel, and those are
people that are doing their homework just as much as
everybody else. So I'm not going to discount their homework.

(12:43):
But at the end of the day, what it is
is their opinion, and the only opinion at the end
of the day that matters is the one that's consensus
in the room. And in the room they had a
first round grade on. This wasn't one of those drafts
where it's like, oh, we got the best guy on
our board and he was a first round grade. Though
we're picking at twenty seven, and it doesn't it's not
actually a first round grade. It's actually a high second.

(13:05):
This was a first round trade. On their board, they
had equal grades to tetoro At McMillan and Tyler Booker.
They went equal grades on both of those guys. We
know that post fact he was a he was. They
loved Tyler.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Tyler Booker also told they didn't have a first round
grade on Golden but that's another con But Tyler Booker
was tounded as the best player at his position in
this draft.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Correct?

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Okay, so by many you pull up draft, it's not consiensant.
Oh yeah, the drafts up.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Let's see what that's Wow, Guards and centers.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Number one Tyler there you go.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Wow, that's interesting. If you guys would have read up,
you guys would understood that Kyle was on was on point.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
So you have a guy tedro At McMillan, I had
the optimism that he would fall.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
If you have a gap that was a void I
should say not even a gap like void that has
been left by a hall of famer soon to be
hall of famer, and you have an opportunity to grab
somebody who was the best at their position. In that
particular draft and plug them into that void at twelve too.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
How was that a reach?

Speaker 2 (14:11):
It's not. It's not so Also, kids, keeping in mind
the consensus draft boards that had him at thirty one
or thirty.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
But also keeping in mind is exactly what Kyle said.
They didn't pick him for pure need. They picked him
because at twelve, based on how the board fell, he
was the one that was sitting atop of their board.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
So it just did the same thing with Donovan as
Roku in the second round. It just did the same
thing with Savone Ravel in the third round.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
It just so happens to fill a big kneed. Where
to Micah pick was he twelve twelve? It worked out
now just one. There are still concerns. This doesn't fix everything.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
Nothing does.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Still need a wide receiver. I'm not totally sold on
the running back conversation. We'll get to that in the
third segment. The there's a lot of moving and shaking down.
It still needs to be done. I'm not we'll talk
about it, but I love I cannot tell you how
much of a fit it is to have Tyler Booker
and you talk to it a little bit there after

(15:10):
the press conference and I had known kind of the
guy that Tyler Booker was just from interacting with him
throughout the draft process once or twice. But the way
he commands a room and the way that he walks
in and it changes the whole outlook of who you are.
This guy's going to be a fan favorite very quickly.
Everybody loves Tyler Smith, right, Everybody hated the pick initially,

(15:30):
but they love Tyler Smith for the most part. And
Tyler Smith was incredible on his first visit after the
draft and it came over, it was to another level.
Not nothing against Tyler Smith. I love Tyler Smith. Tyler
Booker just took it to another level. It's nothing I've
ever seen before.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
So you can look at this harever you want to.
But Trett still is now your smallest offensive lineman. And
he's not small, and he's not small. He's you're talking
about three thirty five other than bb BB's three thirty
five smaller though he's six' FOUR. Sai you say he

(16:11):
was five, Eleven now he's six, four three thirty. Five,
Sure Terrence steell is three. Ten but here's here's also
WHAT i want to your. Point here's also WHAT i
want everyone to. Understand and Again i'm saying.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
This i'm saying this from the platforms OF i wanted
a wide receiver at number, twelve but my wide receiver was,
picked so then it was. Whatever i'm also the. Guy
THEN i want a wide receiver drafted at some point
in the. Draft it didn't. Happen that's my one of
only two. Demerits don't know why we'll get to, that
get to, That but that being, said when you look

(16:44):
at what you're up against in THE Nfc, east the
defensive tackles in THE Nfc, east one name that we
continually bring up because we're football analysts who know what
the hell we're talking.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
About but then you Heard Tyler booker drop the name
in the. Conference he was.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Called him out straight. Up which player in THE nfl
are you most looking forward to going? Out jalen Car
what do you call? Him jalen call a?

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Game? Wrecord what do you say?

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Yet, Listen Tyler booker wants the smoke and you have
to love that and need. That but then look at
his ability next To, phoebe next To Tyler, smith and
then you get to look at The washington commanders of
the league and The Philadelphia eagles of the, league.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
And even with The New York, giants and then they
get That Penn state.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Guy all, right so even though he's rushing off the,
edge he might see some, scheme some schematics and you,
know one zero things For, booker if he moves around
like we're Moving michael, around he will see something come in.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
THERE i loved. It ye, SEE i got him in the.
Middle now you. Feel now you feel What Tyler booker.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Does Tyler booker makes you when you look at that
trio of interior offensive thousand, pounds, boys it makes you
look at everybody else's defensive interior and Saving come, on
it's a thousand pounds across your middle, three come, on
a thousand OF.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
I loved looking at the face of the reaction Of
Brian schottenheimer And Stephen jones whenever he sought him, out
Because schottenheimer was, like, oh, yeah this Perfect, steve and
Then steven's over.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
There like oh dang, it like well, yeah now you
gotta stand on.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
It now you're in, it but you standing the Whole
the whole press conference felt, like the whole interaction felt
like see it looked like the three front office members
that were up, There, Stephen, jerry and and And brian were, saying, see,
like this is why we love the, guy this is
why he was our, pick and he was the pick
at pick number. Twelve The cowboys did make some other

(18:34):
selections throughout the weekend that we really, do Like i'm
going to break it. Down day two is next when
we come, back we're talking About Desert, Donovan ezeraku And
Savone Ravel junior the second and third round. Picks more
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Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yonder oh, Man all, right let's get into round number.
Two That's Donovan, azraku edge rusher From Boston. College top
guy on their, board another guy who they had a
second round great on and took him in the. Second
it was a fitting. Pick, Uh, Pat i'll start with.
You where does he fit into The cowboys scheme? Overall first? All?

(22:00):
Easily just a, playman first of, all?

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Easily this is sixteen sixteen and.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
How many sixteen and a? Half not just?

Speaker 4 (22:08):
Sixteen you just feel feeling three, quarters you're just feeling
you both.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Disappointing, yeah he had twenty and a half tackle for
the loss, though and he won the he had he
won the nation's best Edgere.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Oh but, wait there's. More he also had eight fumbles
in his eight four sports for his. Career, There, jayden
we're not talking about that. Part, yeah we'll get To
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is because it just feels better to call Him. IS
i feel LIKE i know him already because you know
he's going to come in and fit in extremely.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
Well quite.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Easily you're talking about a defensive line that lost To
Marcus lawrence to a free Agency Sam, williams, which by the,
way as far as the news and note is, Considered
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Weeks but they'll be he'll be limited IN. OTAs but
that's fantastic. News that being, said anytime you're coming off
of torn A, ceo what do we talk, about give

(23:03):
a guy some grace to get back to his. Groove,
okay but you look About Sam, williams you're talking about
as you're you're talking About Micah marshawn kneeling in his
in his second, SEASON i expect a leap. There and
then of course you reunite With Dante, fowler who's coming
off of a CAREER sax season with The Washington. Commanders
all of these rushing off of the, edge and we

(23:24):
haven't even seen yet What Peyton turner can. Do so
assuming That Peyton turner has to fight for his, spot
because he most certainly will have to fight fight For
Peyton turner will have to fight for his. Spot but
If Peyton turner can give you anything at, all in
addition to a defensive edge rotation that now includes as
roku and what he can do both as an edge.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Rusher i'm not gonna say. Both listen three ways.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Edge rusher takeaway machine as far as forcing possible. Takeaways
but he's also a very good run. Defender and correct
me If i'm, wrong, Guys but what is it that
The cowboys have struggled against defending the?

Speaker 4 (24:01):
Run?

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Right, Okay So marshaw kneland we know that was his
claim to fame right coming into the league last, year
he gets some pass rush moves under, Him he's going
to be a problem as he comes in with the
pass rush moves and the ability to defend the run
and the ability to punch the ball free at all.
Times and if you go back and look at his,
film his motor is.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Relentless even when the running back or ball carrier gets past,
him he hunts them. DOWN i called him a couple
of times just playfully, online craving the. Hunter you think
because you got past him that you're.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Saved you're not.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Safe so you love that kind of, drive motor, work
ethic ability and his bend in. Twitch AND i said
this in my scouting report on the dot. Com make
sure you check that. Out it reminds me of Peak
Randy gregory And David irving when they. Flashed when he,
flashes you see that kind of. Ability if you can
get that type of, consistency that puts him beyond The

(24:54):
Randy gregory And David irvings.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Whole buddy, hole, BUDDY i really like this, pick really
like to, speed AND i normally wouldn't go for, that
especially when you have A, mica BUT i want. TO
i don't want to say you have two, micahs but
you have somebody else who you have to. Respect and
if you choose to, put you, know somebody Like ezroku
on an island like good.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
Luck good, luck because most defensive ends that.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Are coming out in twenty twenty, five right in this
era of, football most of these guys have one maybe
two moves. Right usually it's up the field right trying
to get around the guy type of, deal or they you,
know bury their head in the guy's chest and try
to bull rush, them depending on their size the. Stature
as you Watch, ezraku his ability to use inside moves

(25:41):
is something that stands out tremendously to. Me he goes
inside a, lot and the reason why that's important is
because not only does that discourage inside, runs but also
on the pass rushing. Side when he does utilize his
speed to go upfield and outside shoulder of the, tackle
whichever side he chooses to be, on that tackle has

(26:02):
a tendency to do what over set try to beat
him to that point, Right and when a tackle tries
to beat a defensive end to the point of, contact
there's nice to.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
Beat tends to be like a little red sea that
opens up on the inside shoulder, right and he utilizes,
that and a lot of young players.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
DON'T a lot of young players just try to continue
to press the outside shoulder and run up the field
and they end up running the hula hoop and missing the.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
Quarterback he goes. Inside and even when he does go inside.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
And he gets a quarterback in a situation where they're, like,
OH i need to try to make a, move his
ability to change. Directions as a former passing slash running, quarterback,
okay as a quarterback who used to like to use
his twinkle toes and get outside the, POCKET i was
not afraid of the guys who just ran. UPFIELD i
wasn't afraid that the fast, guys the long guys that

(26:49):
just took the shoulder. UPFIELD i wasn't afraid of the
guys that came, inside came inside the. TACKLES i was
afraid of the guy who was able to change directions
because you can't shake, them you can't get them off.
Balance and his ability to change directions as you try
to shake, him if you're an athletic, quarterback he stays with.
You that's to me is super, dangerous especially when you

(27:11):
have a micro on the opposite side and A Dante
fowler on opposite.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Side WHEN i was looking at the scouting notes THAT
i had for him and looked at, it it was
all about. Ceiling and his ceiling is still very. High
and here's why he has the size and speed combo
you look at as his, ATHLETICISM i mean his. Size
he's a little bit, shorter he's six foot, two but
he has the weight of two fifty plus on that

(27:36):
side as. Well but what he does have his. Length
he's got a eighty percentile, wingspan he's got a seventy
percentile arm. Length his forty was a ninety one percentile
eighty six in the shuttle seventy six in the vert seventy.
Two in the broad three cone was a ninety percent
tile bench was a little bit. Shorter the one THING
i want him to work on is the. Strength but

(27:58):
what is one thing that you can an ad in THE?
Nfl absolutely it is. Strength you can add that his.
Exactly he's got AN nfl weight, room he's got AN
nfl caliber strength and conditioning. Staff he comes in with
the necessary, size and he comes in with the necessary
speed and. Agility all you got in the Oh, man

(28:21):
the technique the pass rush are just. TECHNICAL i mean
it's he is. Phenomenal the way he uses his, hands
the way he's able to work outside inside like you
were talking, about on the shoulder of these offensive or offensive.
Tackles it makes it easy on a coach for him
to come in day one and, say, hey you're ready
to pass. Rush, now let's build up that. STRENGTH i
don't see why he couldn't be a multi year starter

(28:43):
in this in this defense and legitimately contend to be
in The Pro bowl and to be a possible the
first round grade on a lot of.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Boards go back to the shuttle in three come what was.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
His percentile, Percentile shuttle was eighty six, percent and is
you said shuttle three.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Three, Yeah so those are the numbers that, matter.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Especially and when you're talking about edge, rushers that's bend.
Exactly that's straight up ben and he's got a lot of.

Speaker 10 (29:10):
It.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah so for those that don't know where the three cone,
is you're running five, yards you're going, up you're turning,
aside you're getting outside the, cone you're bending the block
again and coming back. Downhill like his ability to change,
directions suddenly he's at the top of, that, Right his
ability to get in and out of, cuts that's what
the shuttle, shows, Right he's at the top of that as.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Well so when you start.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Talking about somebody who possesses those abilities and they're not
an offensive, player they actually have their hand in the
ground or they're in a bicycle stands as a defensive,
end that's scary because now those guys can not only run,
straight which he's at the top of that as, well
but he can change, directions so there is no safe
place to get, away. Right so to your, point the
one area that in terms of, attributes right that we
put on paper that he needs to address is getting

(29:50):
stronger and that's the easiest area to address as a nu.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Percent you want to keep it. All you want to
keep the, speed you want to keep the, agility you
want to keep the, bendingess you want to keep the.
Technique you just got to. Strength but if there's anybody
that knows how to do, that it's AN. Nfl and
this is across the. Board this is not just special
to The. Cowboys they've got a great strength and conditioning,
staff don't get me. Wrong but once you get to THE,
nfl you can take that to the next. Line but
you're a bi different than doing it At Boston. College
AND i want to make this, different this. Differentiation before

(30:16):
you go ticket, Here, pat we need to go. Speed,
okay speed and power a, sorry strength and power to
completely different.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
Things.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Right, so, yes he can increase his, strength, right his
overarching strength, right which is going to play into when
he locks up with offensive.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
Tackles.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Right and WHEN i get inside their little window AND
i have to lock up with these. Guys CAN i
get them off? Me CAN i get their hands off?
Me CAN i shed the? Block CAN i do you?
Know CAN i CAN i punch or? Rip CAN i
do those? Things power is my ability to use my
speed right in addition to my strength to knock these
guys off.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
Balance it's great, Moment that's What i'm talking. About so
that is already.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
There he has the, power but if he gets, stronger
his power becomes stronger as. Well so that's what you're talking,
About kyle ability to be able to fight write those
those hand to hand combats when he does lock. Up
now the whole purpose is you hope he doesn't have
to lock up that, often but sometimes as a defense,
end you have to set the edge and that's where
your strength comes.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
In, yeah you saying we're going to, Break, no we're
going to. Revel, OH i want you to talk About
Savonne ravel seventy sixth overall, pick third, ROUND a guy
THAT i would argue if he didn't tear HIS acl In.
September the highest rated Corner bay not Named Travis, hunter
but HE i, mean, yeah, yeah he would have been

(31:33):
a top notch draft prospect already WAS i mean after
His All american season in twenty twenty three At East.
CAROLINA i got to watch a lot of his games
because he played in The American Athletic. CONFERENCE i got
a stick, around you, know a little bit about, it
know a little bit about. That i'm called a couple
other games and. Stuff but, man he's a. Dude he
is an absolute. Dude fits the, character fits the, mentality

(31:55):
fits the dog that you want to get From Brian
schottenheimer's coaching staff and what they were looking. For but
the scouts loved this. Guy they were all over.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
It and, LISTEN i could not have been more excited
when this pick was. Made AND i get.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
It people are, saying, well he's, injured and, okay well
let me first say.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
It was a third round.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
Pick. Guys, yeah hold hold, on add real quick so
you can go deeper into this.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Point The cowboys have a relatively good doctor training staff
and doctors and surgeons and all. That if there's a,
surgeon if you're ever going to have, confidence do you
know who you know who did the. SURGERY i was
going to bring it up and go, Ahead, oh Doctor Dan.
Cooper that sounds really. Familiar if you wear a.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Hat he. Does he loves to wear. His you know.
THAT i love that he did the. Surgery he did the,
surgery which means he has all of the information he's
looked in. There, yeah he knows.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Exactly he was the.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
One he was the.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
One so they have The cowboys being, there they have
more information than any other. Team and then when it
comes To revel and his prognosis.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
And the severity of his severity and what did he
say yes or?

Speaker 2 (32:56):
No did he give you a did he give a
clean bill of health to Savonn? Novel after knowing all
of this, stuff, well.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
The expectation is That revel will likely start on the,
puplist but he will be in training camp and he
will be on the field in training so, yes, yes, yeah,
yeah there you. Go so as it, Goes ravel will
be in training, camp on the field in knox nerd
before training camp. Concludes, Right that's something That revel said

(33:24):
when he was giving his progress report immediately after the,
pick when we had him in a conference. Call he,
said he's already doing a lot of. Things he's running
a straight, line but they've not cleared him to do
cuts and brakes just. Yet he, said that's the next,
step and once he gets settled Into, dallas that's going
to be the next. Step but, again puppulist to, start
but he's going to be on the. Field barnes set,

(33:45):
back which means he will be on the field day,
one in my, opinion as a starter at a position
of dire. Need when you talk about The, Cowboys Trayvon
diggs does not seem like he's going to be, ready.
RIGHT i heard What Stephen jones, said AND i get.
THAT i think that's those colored. Glasses you look at
the timing Of Treyvon diggs's, injury the type of, injury
and the prognosis on. RECOVERY i think he misses the

(34:06):
first chunk of the. Season what does a chunk look?
Like maybe the first four game?

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Rehab? Right the first, time the first time he had
rehabit took a little bit.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Longer so Assuming Trevon digs is not on the field
for the first quarter ish of the, Season Jordan, lewis
is he still in the?

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Building?

Speaker 3 (34:22):
No, no, Okay so you just lost two top, cornerbacks all,
Right so it's Den.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Alan carson's coming off an injury.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Too so as it stands in your cornerback room minus,
revel it Was Deron bland in The bland dets, okay
Because Kayln carson returning from not only a rookie season
that was up and, down but also showed a season
inding showed a surgery in that rookie.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
Season what does he look like on his?

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Comeback we don't know, Yet, Okay israel mcwamau loved the
retention of. That but and he's gonna help with, depth
but he's on a one year. Deal doesn't really handle
the future. Situation the future, Question, Okay revel immediately comes
in and he gives you that boundary corner, opposite opposite
To ron. Blank when you look At ravel's film and
you mentioned, it you look at his, size what do we?
Got six just under six? Two, okay one ninety. Four

(35:08):
not the biggest guy as far as masses. Concerned but
WHEN i tell, you this dude is, athletic need a.
Match he's, athletic he's, rangy he's, physical and he loves
getting his hands, on loves get out of his hand. On,
guys has the wingspan what ninety fourth percentile in, wingspan
eighty six percent in arm?

Speaker 4 (35:27):
Length, yeah he gets. It he, Awesome you can get. Awesome, awesome, Yo,
yo got a.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Flame see now you're gonna people call it that, man,
Dulceam but, NO i love everything That revel brings to the.
Table the only question mark is the obvious. One it's
how soon will he get on the, Field but there
are no questions on if he will get on the.
Field there are no questions on if he will be
able to reach prime form once he gets.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
Back it was not that type of.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Injury, okay it's just Win and as we have this,
conversation the win is training camp with plenty of. TIME
i don't know yet if they'll have him in preseason,
games right because they know that he's a starter and
he's coming off of that. Injury so maybe bubble wrap
him just a little bit because you can't afford to lose.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
Him happen In? September, yeah because right because Also.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
September, Correct also going back to who's not going to
be on the, Field Josh butler had the breakout, game
but then he had that's a late season towring.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
Acl he might miss a chunk of the.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Season how long Is Marquis bell? Out and that's not.
Corner this is kind of a side. Time his was
what a?

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Dislocation, yeah so he'll, season but you're talking about by
the time training camp his that's ten months of.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
Recovery. Yeah well, SEE i Think Mark tell takes the
field that's. Out i'm. Talking i'm talking About.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Revel you, Know revel will be on the. Fields, yeah but,
YEAH i could not love this pick. More and in
the event that when you're talking about future, tents because
again a guy Like israel mccamo doesn't necessarily solve that
future tints issue as far as Like Nickel, corner whatever
the case may, be With revel in the, building you
have the option to feel comfortable knowing that if in,

(36:54):
Fact Trevon diggs's rehab is a little bit more of
a slow, burn he ends up missing like half the
season versus a quarter issh of the. Season i'm telling, you,
MAN i fully believe That revel is going to fly
out of the gates and he's going to impress a
lot of.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
People, yeah and you're going to.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
See, Why Like klin AND i, agree and many who
have watched him and analyzed him At East carolina do.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Agree if he's fully, healthy he's nowhere near the third. Round,
yeah nowhere near.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
It the, uh the number one thing is through the
first three. Picks and you, know we always kind of
keep it real on this. Show we're Gonna we're gonna
continue to say it with our CHEST i love the
first three round, PICKS i really. DO i think it's
a great. FIT i think the value was there for
especially two and. Three second day day, THREE i don't

(37:42):
know IF i love this. Much and here's what we're
going to talk about it when we come. BACK i
want to hit the day three. Picks who did we?
Like who did we think may have been one way
or the. Other and it's day, three it's the day
of the, scouts so who could surprise? Us we'll talk
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Speaker 2 (40:01):
The Talking. Cowboys back here On Talking cowboys as we
roll into the final segment here of our draft recap.
Episode before we get into day, Three, pat you wanted
to talk about a rumor that's kind of been.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Loading absolutely not even a rumor because it's confirmed so
during the draft, itself can't recall if it was day
one or day, two because if you know anything about
what we are up against on the behind the, scenes, yeah,
multitasking so but NONETHELESS i. Did it did come across
my disk day one or day two that The cowboys

(40:37):
did have high interest in a possible reunion with The Marii. Cooper,
Okay SO i kept that in mind throughout the remainder
of the draft and seeing if they would draft a
wide receiver or if they would. NOT i think they
were still interested in drafting a wide, receiver but they
were going how their board, fell like we talked about
in the first, segment and if the boy didn't fall

(40:58):
with the wide receiver they were looking, at was the
guy that was remaining at the top of the. Board
they weren't going to pull the trigger and so. FORTH i,
mean so that's how it. Went so The cowboys didn't
draft a wide, receiver which is one of my only.
Demerits i'll talk about the other demerit as we talk
about day. Three but, yes it is true The cowboys
have interest in possibly reuniting With Mary. Cooper that being,
SAID i would not anticipate them making a, move be

(41:19):
it A maari or someone Like Keenan. ALLEN i wouldn't
anticipate that Before may, second because if they signed Before may,
second then it impacts negatively The cowboys compensatory pick, formula
and there's just no reason between now And friday Or
saturday to sign him a mess of that. Formula so
if that move is to, HAPPEN i believe the early

(41:39):
state would. Happen it is going to Be. Friday Believe
friday's the second If i'm not, mistaken maybe Even. Thursday
Lillheim kellen from you this. WEEKEND i wouldn't apect it,
yet would anticipate it before this. Weekend but, yes it
is true The cowboys have interest in a possible Reunion Amari.
Cooper but he's not the only one they're doing homework,
on but it is something to keep an eye. On
he's a front, Runner i'll put it that.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Way they are going to a dress wide.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Receiver that much is, true AND i said it on the.
Door they're going to check out my Article we're going
to wide receivers on the dot com. Yesterday they are
going to address. It and he's the marquee. Name right,
now there's a couple of.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Them something you want What i'm saying nothing at. All
just know that they're not going to LEAVE cd out to. Dry,
NO i agree it's a tough he but not let
him be on that hill by. Himself you know WHAT i,
liked and this is something that you're talking about growth and.
Progression we AND i say we BECAUSE i, Included i'm including.

Speaker 6 (42:33):
This we.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
We get on The joneses a lot when it comes
to liking their. Guys it's become a. Phrase it's. Insight
it's a running joke Within Cowboys. Nation The cowboys like their,
guys like their.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
True but WHEN i sit there AND i Hear Stephen
jones say something, like well we have because you Have
jerry doing The jerry, Thing jerry's, like, well you, know
we did use a fourth round pick On, mingo so
technically we Drafted.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
Mingo but then That's jerry Being.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Jerry but then you pan over To steven And steven
starts calling out, names And stephen, says, yes we Have Jonathan.
Mingo you, know we can only hope that he reaches
the second round grade that we put on. Him we
Have Jalen, tobert we Have Ryan, flanoyd we Have Jalen.
Brooks he's saying these, names and then immediately after he
says the, names he, says none of them have shown
yet that they can be wide receiver, too which is

(43:23):
why we The Cowboys Stephen jones voways are looking to do.

Speaker 4 (43:28):
Something steven always keeps on one.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Hundred so What i'm saying is when you start to
hear things like that from the director of player, personnel
it goes to your. Point they know and they're willing
to admit that they need help at wide receiver. TOO
i am of the belief one hundred percent that they're
going to address. It they tried to address it a
couple of, times more than a couple of times via

(43:50):
trade before the, draft but those deals did not come.
Through we can't say the names because then it would
be seen as time print on this. Show but they,
tried it didn't. Work the draft that were going to
get ted if you fill to, twelve he. Didn't they
didn't end up getting a wide receiver. Thereafter so now
they're looking At Amari cooper Possibly keenan down on some
of these other, options and trade is still in.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
The two all, right so that's a. Possibility how did
they address some of the needs In day? Three who
was your Favorite day three? Selection i'll start with, You,
isaiah because we're running out of. Time, here we gotta
go pick your favorite and go with. It you only
to run down the names real.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
Quick i'm looking at it here, Here.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
I'll run him down just for those at. Home so
of course we talked About Tyler booker in round, One round, Two,
Donovanezraku Savona Ravel junior round. Three but then you get
into day. Three he did not pick in the. Fourth
it Was Jaden, blue running back From texas in round,
five followed By Shamar, james linebacker From. Florida very, Quickly
Johnny cornelius round, six the offensive lineman out Of, Oregon

(44:49):
Jay toya defensive tackle FROM ucla in the seventh, Round Phil,
MafA running back From clemson in the seventh round as,
well and then the final pick Was TOMMY. A King,
besot defensive tackle From.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Maryland, YEAH i like. Them james out Of. Florida that
was the one that stuck out to. Me that's, like,
YEAH i like that one BECAUSE i know we added
some veterans at the second level and obviously you're, expecting you,
Know demo to come, back and you know you have
some other guys that you've invested in obviously through through
the draft over recent. Years BUT i like his, speed
AND i like speed at the second. Level AND i

(45:22):
think with what they're trying to do on the front
defensive line by putting some big fellows in there and
some some kind of mountains that they have to move
through the veteran, PORTAL i guess you could SAY i
like the fact that you have some guys that can
flow and run. Right that's what this game is turning.
Into at the linebacker. Position you, know guys are gonna
be six, two, six three, five and they can shoot

(45:45):
the gaps. Right they can get to a place from
POINT a to POINT b very. Quickly AND i think
when you pair that up with guys who can hold
the fort in the middle while you, know occasionally being
able to get some vertical you, know being able to
see hit the seams and get get vertical and get
to the, quarterback as well as having defensive ends that
can go.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
Hunt and you have some linebackers that can for that
can free.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Flow now you're looking at a really, fast aggressive defense
and you're really starting to get an identity as to
What eberflus is trying to do with. This he doesn't
want a bunch of big lumps of coal that can't.
Move he wants guys that can run and, hit and
that's what it's looking.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Like he's got a great first, step you can tell
like HIS i, mean he's got an acceleration like crazy.
Long speed's not super. GREAT i thought he was okay
athletic profile. WISE i the big thing is is that
quick first. Step there's a lot of times where he's
wrong and he's got to clean that. Up so that's, Coachingly,
yeah he's got to clean it. Up as it relates To,

(46:38):
james what Does eberflus specialize in? Back, Okay, yeah as
far As Shamar james, GO i like that.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
PICK i like that player a, lot so much so
that in my one and only mock draft on the dot,
COM i Mocked Shamar james to the cow they loved.
Him my only demerit there is that the value equation
doesn't work out for me BECAUSE i mocked him in the,
seventh would have been comfortable with him in the. Sixth,
fifth was a little bit of a rich and trading
up for him in the fifth to do. It that
tells me they really were craving some Samar jay and who.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
Who was in charge of?

Speaker 1 (47:08):
That you think oh, oh got you, here new defensive
coator who specializes in linebackers and get a.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
Linebacker they all loved.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Him the scouts loved, them coaches loved. Them but that
was flu sounds like somebody was beating the table out.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Clearly so that that was my only knock to that
because love the. Player OTHERWISE i wouldn't have mocked them.
HERE i just think that was a bit too rich for.
Me that being, SAID i Think Jay, toya although a flyer,
pick keep an eye on.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
That young man because that's my favorite pick of the. Day.
ABSOLUTELY i like him a. LOT i talked about him
on the draft. SHOW i think he's a big body
that you don't, have and he can move lateral. Ability
he takes up multiple. Gaps he's able to plug the.
INTERIOR i think they've Taken day three flyers on defensive tackles,
recently One Technique, Rogers. Ridgeway. Uh i'm trying to think

(47:57):
there's a couple Other haana like those other guys been.
Around this guy is more athletic and more talented than
all three of those. GUYS i think is definitely what
except for Maybe Bohanna banda was, massive but he's not
a trash can full of. Dirt you hear that one
and you talk about the defensive tackle. Position he's not
just he can. Move if he is a draft trash

(48:19):
can full of, dirt he's one of those Like janitor
ones that are on wheels and you can kind of
go side by. Side you. THERE i think he's he's
an Undervalued day three, pick AND i think they got
him in the right.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Spot, okay so AND i. Agree SO i was going to,
say honorable. Mention keep an eye On. Toya i'm going
to do a combo. Pack, NO i am going to
do a combo.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
Pack that's. Cheating, no it's.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
Not because Addition jayde And blue And Phil. MafA i
think you fuse them together on some. GOKUCHITA i think
it's a fusion.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
DANCE i think if you Get blue Without, MafA or
you Get mafu Without, blue, hey you're.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Learning hey wait wait wait if you do if you
do it that, way we can do it in our
little ready.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
By the WAY i thought you're about to.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Do, No i'm on your. Box you look at your.
Box oh oh like there you, Go, yeah you got
it right.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
THERE i think if you Get MafA without blue and
Or blue Without. MafA i'm a little lower on both
of those. Picks but the fact that you're combining, both
you Have. Blue he's a home run. Hitter WHAT i
need him to do is get the t ky barber
treatment and he blue walking around this building with the
football at all.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
Time everybody needs to swipe at that.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Football he needs to clean up the fund, Unequivocally, however
this is a dude that has run in the sub
four three. Forty, okay this is a guy who is exceptionally.
Quick he's deceptive in. Space he makes it difficult to tackle.
Him he's basically A he's Your Tony, pollard, Right he's
what you Want Tony poller, small he's.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Bigger, okay let me.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
Look, nonetheless he's your home run.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Hitter MafA dirty, bully a, gaps b, gaps taking on
blocks and pass pro short, yardage red zone so Zeke,
tony Peak zeke Peak. Tony this is what The cowboys
are hoping for With MafA And jay In, blue that
they can become that.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
Dynamic SO i.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Can't it's a little smaller.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
HERE i can't pop them apart BECAUSE i see them
as a. Tando but don't you See Jamonte. WILLIAMS i
See Javonte williams making this.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
TEAM i do see him making this team BECAUSE i
don't feel like you need to have a small bit
of redundancy there because injuries.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
Happen, Right who do you see as a?

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Starter that's a, competition that's, see that's the.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
Thing but, now before the, drag the problem was there
was no.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Competition and then when you Added javante and you Added,
miles there was some, competition but not.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
Enough that made me feel, WOMAN i am a fan
OF i am as. WELL i just SAID i, BELIEVE
i believe he makes the.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Team BUT i also believe when you look at What
MafA brains versus what they don't have on the, ROSTER
i Believe MafA has an excellent chance of making the
team because he's the.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
Bully who's the bully right?

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Now Hunter linkey would probably give you that if you
gave him the, ball, Right But MafA has a good
chance of making the. Team AND i Think jay And
blue has an exceptional. Chance and here's WHY i say
that they were going to trade up For jay And.
Blue that's how much they Wanted jay And. Blue but
he was still available when they went. On they like the,
speed he's going to make the. TEAM i don't disagree with, that,
Right SO i believe both of those rookies make the.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
Team so what does Dus vonn have to?

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Do here's that's a different. Conversation here's my. THING i
like what you're. SAYING i like that you've got a
home run, hitter AND i like you you've got a,
versatile bigger, back, RIGHT i like it one way or the.
OTHER i think one way or the. Other you've got
two guys that you can kind of mix a. Match

(51:35):
i'm not going to sit here and put my entire
running back class in my entire running back room on
the back of two third day, picks two day three
guys and say THAT i feel good about the running.
GAME i don't think they've addressed the running.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
Game, yeah you guys are.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
CRAZY i Think blue is he has a chance to
grow into. It for twenty twenty, FIVE i. DON'T i
still don't feel good about.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
It advantage. Guy you guys not Watched davonte's Film what
do you Twenty he's a freaking bowling. Ball why are
you acting Like i'm Knocking i'm telling you he's making he's,
nice he's making the.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Team i'll knock. HIM i think he's a good running.
BACK i think he'll make the. Team but like he's your.
Starter are you thinking he's going to be a thousand
yard rusher in this?

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Offense nobody's gonna be one thousand yard rusher in.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Exactly because they're not good. Enough but they're. Not they
can't run the.

Speaker 9 (52:24):
Ball who are?

Speaker 4 (52:24):
They is gonna be by?

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Committee if somebody doesn't get a thousand, yards it's because
they are truly going by. Committee AND i think that
they're gonna do this little freaking carousel of running, backs
just keep everybody. Fresh But Javonte williams checks the boxes for.
Me behind this offensive line as it, stands crap as it.
Stands If javonte is WHAT i and you AND, i,
yes he can.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
BE i Think.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Javonte they don't make any of the. MOVES i Think
javonte can be YOUR rb. One, Yes Jaydon blue is
YOUR rb. Two and THEN i could See Phil moffa being,
three and Then, HUNTER i don't know your four, Packs
so it's like a three plus one two, three.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
FOUR i don't.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Know but one Is Javonte william and then, they'll you,
know you figure the rest as far as like practice
squad stuff like.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
That, so, YEAH i Have davonte making the.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Team But i'm not going to sit here and say
BECAUSE i Like davonte that prior to me Seeing blue
And maful walking to the building THAT i felt.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
Good, NO i sat here and, SAID i still didn't feel.
Good so there you, go there you.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Go there we gotta. GO i, know we gotta. Go
we got a lot longer this offseason to debate, this
and then we'll debate, it even.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Going into calling the. Chests he smells a bit we'll
get to.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
That, yeah, yeah, yeah that kind of sounds like.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
Look for the look for the silent.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
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Speaker 6 (53:43):
So.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Hard we'll see you next.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
Week.

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