Talkin’ Cowboys: Panther Pressure

Kyle Youmans, Patrik Walker, Isaiah Stanback, and Josh Rodriguez preview how the Cowboys’ top-ranked offense matches up with a sneaky Carolina defense full of under-the-radar playmakers. From Brian Schottenheimer’s hot streak to the challenge of staying sharp against an overlooked opponent, the crew breaks down what could make this one trickier than it looks.

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And now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez
and Kyle Yeomans.

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It's so wonderful Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by
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Speaker 3 (01:02):
I'm Kyle Yeoman, so glad you're with us. We have some.

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Show news for you.

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We do right off at the jump of the episode.

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We don't need your vote.

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I was actually going to open it up for a
vote yesterday, but we just ran out of time, so
we took a vote on.

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The kyleaving the show. Really sorry to hear that, bro.

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Government right now.

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Oh the Lebron decision, second decision, He's headed to mix shots.

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Wow, Mickey would hate that, I think anybody.

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Mickey's like, bye, yeah, thanks man, it's been so good
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is that's what That's what the sound would be.

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No, I'm not leaving the show.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
What we are doing, though, is we are flipping our previews.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
So normally we pret up.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
The Dallas defense, the Dallas defense vers is their upcoming
or upcoming opponent on offense on Wednesdays. We're not doing
that anymore. We're gonna flip. We're gonna flip it care you.
We want Patrick's lab code to get a little bit
more shine on Thursdays, and it also coincides with his
science lab that's released every week on Thursday on Dallas

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Cowboys dot Com. Yeah, so we're just gonna push the
defensive preview to Thursday, and now the offensive previews.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
We got QB Vision Wednesday, cool, Thursday.

Speaker 6 (02:31):
Ready on Friday?

Speaker 3 (02:32):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (02:34):
So he's on Friday.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Today, we have some QB vision coming up.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, are you ready for this?

Speaker 3 (02:47):
But yeah, that's all the show news is.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
We're so from now on, we will preview the Dallas
offense on Wednesday and we were preview the Dallas defense
on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Sorry you used to that hoping take that what you did?

Speaker 8 (03:05):
Wow?

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The hell what the court say?

Speaker 6 (03:07):
But you did.

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People are the courts, but the people stop it. I
do we do it for you?

Speaker 6 (03:15):
All right?

Speaker 5 (03:16):
We're going into those and noes. Patrick, not a ton
of news and notes.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
No, we do have one though. We do have one
little bit of a reunion. Cowboys reunited. I can't talk
to me. They reunited with Julius Wood. Okay, so, former
undrafted safety from last year twenty twenty four. He's a hitter.
He is a hitter and he made he made some
waves in training camp last year. He was a roster
casualty and final cutdowns, they waved him. He went over

(03:43):
to the Titans, who claimed him successfully from waivers. But
he's back. He's back on the Cowboys practice squad. Cowboys
obviously need some safe safety depth and insurance with Malie
Hooker on ir SO, welcome back into the fold. Julius Wood,
hard hitting safety out of East Carolina, former former collegiate
teammate of one sivone revel Just for a little bit,

(04:04):
you just it was like one year that they overlap
one year works. He's had some good showings here in
training camp of preseason so or the last last year
or so preseason for sure, Yeah, for sure. Yeah, he's
we played well for Dallas.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
Yeah, so that's the one big news. And note Cowboys
were off yesterday.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, back at practice today. So we're waiting to see
the injury update on several guys, Taylor Booker, Tyler Geydon, Uh,
Tyler Smith obviously, Cede Lamb, Cavante's harping, so forth and
so on. So we don't have Tyler Biadas you'd really
been confusing.

Speaker 6 (04:37):
For more than one reason.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
So many Tyler's.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Right there, Yeah, you guys. So, yeah, we'll see today
first injury report comes out. This is going to be
the first real look at who has a good chance
of playing and taking the field against the Carolina Panthers
and who's trending in the wrong direction as far as
not taking the flight to Charlotte. So yeah, keep an
eye on that. That'll drop around three ish this afternoon

(05:07):
Central time. Keep an eye on the twitters.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
Do you do you feel like the signing of Julius
Wood maybe coincides with the Donovan Wilson thought process. Do
they maybe is that something we can read the tea leaves,
I would say yeah, yeah, because you're already missing Booker.
He's on IR yep, he's got three games left to
be on IR minimum.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, and and we still don't know. We'd have no
further insight on the Donovan Wilson situation, which is what
we will hopefully get today. If Donald was a d
n P this afternoon or today's practice, your answer is yes.
But even before then, I'm going to say there's a
lean toward that. I mean, you got some you got
banged up safety. So as far as who you would

(05:47):
throw out there, initially, obviously it's going to be Marquise Bell,
but you need depth behind one yea and Marquise Bell.
You have Elijah Clark who was signed to the active
roster last weekend. So that's good stuff, but you need
more than that if you're going to be down to
starting safe. So Julius would hard hitting guy, and we
talked about Donald. What does Donald do well? Downhill hard hitter?
Julius wood hard hill, down hit her.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Hard hill, down hit her? How did you hard hit her?

Speaker 6 (06:12):
Downhill, downhill, hard hitter?

Speaker 2 (06:14):
I don't know, but you know what's really crazy, impressed
myself saying, and it sounded good work. That's right, I
did it.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
It's like I said that on purpose.

Speaker 7 (06:26):
I will tell though, we really need that injury report stats.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Because you were you were typing up that.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Hm.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
It's because last night you were typing up fl like Morio.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
That's why. That's what it was.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Oh yeah, that was fun to watch.

Speaker 6 (06:39):
Picked up a little bit last night.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
I think Patrick might be under investigation very soon.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
That escalated quickly. Yeah, you know, I think you I
think you killed a guy with a trident. You should
probably lay low for a few maybe just chill out.
But no, you know, you know, yeah, clowns are going
to clown so anyway.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
Anyway, So Julius would the person that Taylor Swift wrote
a song about recently, that is who's on the ros.

Speaker 6 (07:05):
Yeah, Julius would exactly would.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
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That was That was appreciate. That was smooth.

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It's not It's not super smooth. If you think if
you actually listen to the lyrics.

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Of that, just type it up and look at it's wild.

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Yeah, it's just arena for yep.

Speaker 6 (07:27):
That's Kyle about.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
That's exactly what it was. Thank you all right.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
Switching offensive preview to Wednesday, I want to talk about
this offense because right now, statistically in the NFL, Isaiah standback,
the Dallas Cowboys have the number one total offense.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
You don't want to say another part of that.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
They have the number one most allowed yards on defense,
but they have the number one total offense. We'll talk
about that defense tomorrow. We'll talk about what's happening against
the Panthers this week. But when you look at the
success that has happened on offense and the number of
guys that have stepped up on that side of the football,
where do you feel like it starts?

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Starts with the offensive line. Really, yep. Offensive line allows
for your quarterback to pass. Offensive line allows for your
ground game. We get going. It's officsive line. I mean,
we could talk about all the skill position players, all
the guys who make contributions there, but ultimately, the big
fellows who never get subbed out are the ones that
are taking care of business and allowing for your entire
offense to be collaborative. Allowed for your officeive coordinator to

(08:25):
feel comfortable and confident to call plays they control the
line of scrimmage, so whether they're pass blocking, whether they're
moving mountains up front, they're doing a heck of a job.
Dak has the confidence to sit back in the pocket.
He's obviously had to work in the pocket to create
some passing lanes at times, but that's every quarterback. So
I think he's done a heck of a job. The
offensive line has allowed for him to do that. Obviously,

(08:47):
Jontay Williams is having one heck of a year. It's
not like he's getting hit in the backfield and having
to create he's getting to the line of screams through
the line of scrimmage to the second level. Then he's
getting hit, then he's running through its.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
And there's a lot of times yards after contact, because
that's a big statu in the NFL. Even with yards
after contact, you have to be favorable position in order
to appreciate contact.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
I'm saying that then continue through that initial contact is
not happening behind the line of scrimmage. So if it's
not happening behind the line of scrimmage and it's happening
at the second level of the defense, and now you're
three to four yards across the line of scrimmage. By
the time you get hit, that's where the contact is happening.
That's where it's expected to happen based upon your blocking scheme.
And that's all happening because of the old line.

Speaker 7 (09:25):
So shout out to them, good thing that they're all
healthy too. Yeah, big facetious, because yeah they're not. But
I think a large part and doe to that. And
it's a team sport. You're talking about. All these phases
of the offense clicking together.

Speaker 6 (09:39):
Is one.

Speaker 7 (09:40):
You don't have the number one offense in the NFL
without Dak Prescott, right, thanks, we're talking about him yesterday.
He's on a different level than he's ever been in
his entire career. It's unfortunate that you have the defense
not playing up to that same standard there. Like Kyle
just said, they're number one in yards allowed. If you
don't have Dak Prescott, this is not the number one
offense in the NFL. And I don't think people realize
that enough or give him enough credit because you just

(10:02):
see it across the board. I mean for people that
don't know ball, people that don't follow the Cowboys, people
are just making means of Dak Prescott. I mean they're
talking about Arch Manning, you know, with the Dak Prescott's
face in a ut uniform.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
It's same people who were saying Tank for.

Speaker 6 (10:15):
Arch exactly exactly. So really, credit where credit is due.

Speaker 7 (10:20):
Dak Prescott is playing the best football of his career
and the offense is clicking on all of sudden cylinders
because of what Dak Prescott is doing in conjunction with
what shot he's helping him. Do we and it goes
back to the original question that you asked. Someone posted
it yesterday and I forgot to send it to you.
I'm sure you saw it. Someone posted your question to
Shoddy from the first press conference.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yes that was Boss Cowboys Boarts Boss boards.

Speaker 6 (10:43):
Shouts to him.

Speaker 7 (10:44):
And it's indicative of what we're seeing now with how
the offense is running and what Shody was how he
answered your question about how you can modernize the Cowboys
offense for Dak Prescott and for the guys that we
have here. CD Lamb included it is coming to fruition. Finally,
you're seeing it now. I mean it started from you know,
Week one, they drove down the field three times in

(11:05):
our own score that to me is all you need
to know, and that's.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
What you're saying.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
Can you take us through that, just because it was
so long ago, can you remind us what the question was?

Speaker 6 (11:16):
It feels like years ago?

Speaker 3 (11:17):
It does?

Speaker 2 (11:17):
It feels like forever ago?

Speaker 3 (11:19):
And then what his response was That led to.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Where we would I do one better? Oh, let's see
if let's see if this might pick up. Oh we're
going to play it fresh looking for hold on, Oh
you got to you gotta mute us on the YouTube side.
On the offense, generally speaking, how do you look to
move forward as far as modernizing the offense? Talk about
solving for the quarterback? What does that look like?

Speaker 6 (11:43):
Yeah, again, I go back to my days with Pete.

Speaker 9 (11:45):
I think if you go back and you look at
some of the things we did in Seattle, obviously the
starting point for me would be things that our players
do well.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
You're always going to start with that.

Speaker 9 (11:56):
If your system's not flexible enough to do what your
players do well, then your probably in the wrong business.
But I'm a big believer in cut splits. I'm a
big believer in shifts and motions to distort things. We're
gonna do a great job of marrying our runs and
our passes and make those look the same. I'm proud
to say that two different times in my career as

(12:20):
a coordinator, we led the league in rushing and they
go hand in hand. A running game in the action
passing game go hand in hand. But I would say
there's a there's a tempo element that we're excited to
mix in that our players have.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
All shown.

Speaker 9 (12:42):
An affinity for. And let me expand on that.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
A little bit. We we'll just yeah, We'll just stop
you right there and just say that every single thing
he said in that in that particular portion, he has
brought to fruition.

Speaker 7 (12:53):
And if you're looking at how the offense has looked
for the past three seasons or four seasons under Mike
McCarthy and listening to what he said here, I mean,
he's proving his point.

Speaker 6 (13:04):
And we talked about it yesterday.

Speaker 7 (13:05):
We're talking about competing every day being the mantra of
the season, and you're seeing guys step up that are
depth players, step in into the starting roles due to
injury or due to whatever it is and succeed because they're.

Speaker 6 (13:16):
Competing every single day.

Speaker 7 (13:17):
I mean, it's granted, you know, it's where what's the
record now we're five hundred right? Uh technically and technically
technically you know technicality, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
That tie, that tie, but it's still a tie.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
With all those expectations in mind, have more.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
Wins than you have losses, Isaiah, tie throws that whole
announcement out the window.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
It definitely does. It throws it out the window. We
hate ties.

Speaker 6 (13:44):
The tie.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Tie can eliminate you from playoffs, can it? Okay, just
like lost can also get But you got two potential negatives.
That's what we against. You hate ties. But I mean
going back to a couple of points that you guys
make because those points mary so well. The play of
the offensive line, both the starters and the backups when
the backups were tasked to come in and due to

(14:05):
injury with the play of Dak Prescott. I don't think
enough people understand how important it is for one hand
to watch the other. What I mean by that is
the offensive line has to protect his quarterback. That much.
Everybody knows. That's just easy math for even the casual
football mind. Okay, but for the high iq football mind,

(14:27):
you also understand that the quarterback has to protect his
offensive line, and by doing that or in doing that
with pocket presence and you know, bailing when you need
to bail, taking checkdowns. We need to take checkdowns because
or just speeding up your clock because you recognize that
this pressure is about to get here sooner than than
you would normally have intended. Dak Prescott is doing all

(14:49):
of those things, all of those things. Go back and
look at some of these games where you know, as
we're rightfully giving credit to some to these backups as
they're playing, there were a few times where the pressure
got here or he got there, and that he steps
up and he moves, and he moves and he buys
himself time and he either buys enough time to get
the check down or get the ball out deep left
or right, or he bails and he gets you that

(15:10):
first down and moves the chain with his legs. So
as much as the offensive line deserves credit, both the
starters and the backups for doing what Connor Riley and
Clayton Adams and Brian Schottenheimer has coached him up to do,
which I can't stress enough this coaching staff on the
offensive side of the ball, Derek Foster, they are oh
my god, genius level highers at this point in Shottenheimer's career.

(15:30):
It goes back to what both Isaiah and Josh are saying.
This trench warfare that the Cowboys are winning on the
offensive side of the ball, allows for the skilled players
to take off, allows for you to have those chunk
plays in a number one offense. So credit to everybody
because it takes it. It's gonna sound cliche, but it
takes a team. I want to throw something out there,

(15:51):
or really kind of just give people some insight. Throw
it out. Oftentimes people think of backups as lesser than
of course, there's not a lot of spots in this NFL,
this NFL professional league that we're in. With that being said,
backups are usually backups for a number of reasons. Usually

(16:13):
it's related to the talent level at that point in time,
At this point in time, you're better than that guy, okay.
Other times it's we have more invested in that individual
than we have invested in you. The other thing that
people need to take in consideration is everybody that is

(16:34):
on the NFL roster is capable. Okay, so though I
might be down on the depth, I am very much
so capable now what is the disparity between myself and
that starter? And why is there a disparity? Are they
better because God just blessed them with more abilities? Are

(16:54):
they better because they've had more reps against people of
their caliber at that point in time and I just haven't.
So when you start talking about backups and everybody's so
amazed that the backups are doing so well, how about
the fact that they might just not have had the
opportunities to go against that level of competition to prove
that they can play at the same level as starters.

(17:17):
And I really want that, I really want people to
take that that perspective because I hate referring to guys
as okay, just backups, Like now, these are NFL players
that are being granted with an opportunity. And how many
times have we seen superstars now Hall of famers because

(17:37):
they were buried on the depth chart and somebody may
have gotten injured and they represented an opportunity and wohila
magic right now? Were they lacking ability or were they
lacking opportunity? So as we talk about this, we have
to be very careful about how we title right and

(17:59):
how we kind of what's the word I'm looking for
label how do we how do we label these players
that are stepping into the fold because some of these
guys just needed an opportunity. We can't label them as
back as we have to label them as guys that
are down on the depth chart that majors have got
their big freaking opportunity, and all of a sudden, they

(18:19):
might see themselves as a starter to either hear if
not here as a contract inspires agains, they could be
starting somewhere else. So you're saying you can't just broad
stroke the label like that. No, Yeah, okay, well Don
Need doesn't understand that, because apparently Don thinks all Hispanics
come from one country. Continue the big thing here, Don,
you're talking about the way You're.

Speaker 5 (18:39):
Talking about the way that players are utilized and how
they are utilizing their specific roles. That's exactly what Shoty
was talking about in that opening press conference. I'm going
to keep this conversation going in the third segment, I'm
want to come back circle back to it because I've
got an opportunity here uh to look at some of
the motion tendencies, and he talked about that a lot too, Didn'
I'm want to talk about that in the third segment,

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It's time for QB vision with Isaiah's Standsback.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
They guy, here we go.

Speaker 8 (21:59):
We think.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Let's talk about it. Man, listen, I don't I don't.
I don't I respect everybody in this NFL. Oftentimes those
in the chatting on the on the web, they tend
to get after me because Isaiah shows every team too
much respect everybody the threat. Yeah, they are the professionals,
so definitely are so you might want to respect them.

(22:25):
Even though you might be better than some teams, you
have to still prove it week in and week out.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
I can tell you the other side.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
The other guys across the hallway that are preparing for
next week aren't aren't saying anything less.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
If anything, it's probably more.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
It's football. It's a physical games happen so Chicago, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So let's talk about these Panthers. Okay, the Panthers. Where
they two and three doesn't really matter. These guys can
play competitive if you allow them to. Their scheme that
they run defensively is a three four typically is what
they run, right. They run three down linemen, big nose

(22:58):
tackle too. Defensively, I have two overhangs with linebackers and
two linebackers at the second level, so oftentimes it will
look like a five man front. How does that potentially
help you and how can that be a disadvantage for you? Well,
help wise, you can run the ball versus three five
for the first of three four if you can hold

(23:20):
the point of the tip of the spear, which is
the nose guard, right, that's where things start for them.
Their nose guard is number ninety four A. Shawn Robinson
played it for the Jet play for the Giants previously.
He's not I'm not amazed by him. He's a he's
a big fella. I almost made a comparison that would
not have been good for us. But he's a he's

(23:41):
a big fella that I'm not threatened by. He's literally
like an anchor, Like you're in the middle of the ocean,
you throw an anchor in there. He just wants to
hold that spot right and not get moved off the point.
I believe that their most dominant defensive lineman is Derek Brown.
Tell them ninety five ninety five, he's a he's a gay, right.
I believe that they have three game wreckers at the

(24:04):
first and second level, number ninety five and Derek Brown
number eleven, and Nick Scorton he plays outside linebacker aka
stand up defensive end, and then also number ninety one
Patrick Jones, who is also an outside linebacker aka stand
up defensive end. Right, So when you think about the
three four outside linebackers, think about old school New England

(24:29):
dali As Thomas. You know, they're just the big dudes
that just stand up and making their big guys. They're
not full on pass rushers, but they're not great cover
guys either of the kind of tweeters you don't want
their hand in the ground. So that's pretty much what
they are. But you can run the ball vers of
three four. I think you can get their big fellow
of ninety four Ashan Robinson, you can get him moved
off the point. That's gonna be a lot of responsibility

(24:50):
on mister brock Off. So yeah, typically you have the
nose guard covering up your center. You'll have the Usually
there are three techniques. Sometimes they'll get out to five techniques,
which means that they're on the outside shade of your guards.
If you can kick those quote unquote defensive ends out,
which are really your you know, two of your d linemen.

(25:11):
It's weird to start talking about names of titles of
their position. Their d ns are d tackles. Really, we
just end titles. If you can kick them out with
your guards and you can hold the point, all of
a sudden, now your guards can get up to the
second level on their linebackers. And if you could do that,
then I foresee Javonte Williams having one heck of a day.
He's already had one heck of a year. I think

(25:32):
that he'll have one heck of a day if they
choose to remain in this three four defense. But you
better find ninety five. He will, he will, he will
mess up your day. That's on the front. Okay, eleven
and ninety one. These are athletic outside linebackers slash d
ns that they play and coverage a lot of times
because in their three four they often play cover four,

(25:55):
Cover two, they'll drop them out and cover three sometimes,
so a lot of times these guys are kind of
fish out of water in space. Imagine Micah Parsons trying
to play coverage. It's not what you want, right, You
much rather him get after the quarterback. You played them
at linebacker. There's a reason why he changed back to
a d N. He just didn't do well at that level.
That's how I see these guys.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
Just for Floyd in the chat, can you explain what
a Cover two versus a Cover three looks like?

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Just because he doesn't?

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Got you? Yeah? So cover two two, high safeties two corner.

Speaker 6 (26:24):
Football, there's a cylindrical ball.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
I'm just kidding you keep you going, all right?

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah? So these guys can they get out in that
space and coverage when that's their responsibility and they don't
do well. What eleven and ninety one do well is
they they are high effort guys and they're very athletic.
These are guys that not necessarily the most skilled with
their hands or even necessarily a bunch of moves in
their bag. But they don't stop. They just they just

(26:49):
stay after the quarterback. Think Max, Think Max Crosby. Right,
Max Crosby is skilled in all those things, but he
just continues to get after you or another gentleman. Van Ginkel,
that's the person that I think about. That's just a
high effort guy, just a bull right in a freaking
coffee shopping You've always liked I love his game.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
You've liked it from when he was in Minnesota. That
was the first time you really were honing in on it.
And he's still a beast, and he's still sidelined.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
He's still a beast. I love players who just are relentless.
Right that there's you can't scheme against. You can't scheme
against that, right because your initial plan, okay, stops them,
but then what then then there then their will to
win takes over. That's what eleven and ninety one are.
Outside of that, they have obviously a great corner that
I think is being just wasted away in JC Horn

(27:38):
and that's number eight. On the outside, they don't there's
not a lot to talk about in terms of their
corners because they're not playing a lot of man. They're
playing so much zone. They're playing quarters, they're playing two,
they're playing three. Occasionally, every so often they'll sprinkle in
a little bit of man. They don't blitz a lot.
Everything that they do coverage wise is so easily identifiable.

(28:00):
Like Dak should have a day as long as they
get it blocked up upfront, which I don't foresee that
being a problem. But Dak should have a day. He's
gonna have a lot of he should have a great
pocket because a lot of their rushes come from their
outside linebackers pressing from the outside, which are they're usually
a nine techniques or eleven techniques, however you want to
look at it, so they're pushing up the field. The
pocket is usually nice. He could step up, he could

(28:21):
delivered the ball. There's no physicality at the line of
scrimmage by their corners. They're linebackers that are out in coverage,
are not jamming your inside receivers, so there's no contact
there to stop Ferguson from getting to the middle. If
you guys have any questions in regards to that, go
look at Darren Waller what he did last week. He
was running routes like he was routes on air, so
I'm not there's nothing defensively that there was like, oh

(28:44):
my gosh, you better be aware of this, and I
don't like that going into a game. But I'm just
telling you what I see on the film. Handful of
guys ninety five get him figured out up front. He
could he could push your your office a lineman back
into the lap of Dak Prescott and then eleven to
ninety one. Ohs, you're a high effort guys, and if
you decide to throw the ball jac Horn's way, he's
not being forced to do a lot of quote unquote coverage,

(29:06):
but he don't. Don't play with him, right, so some
respect on his name. I tell you what gives me confidence,
And again this is please don't take it as as
me saying that the Cowboys are definitely going to win
this game. They should, but we'll get to that when
we do predictions on fat. Having seen what Brockoffin and TJ.
Bass could do against Quinn Williams gives me a lot
of confidence that they can handle that interior against whomever, right,

(29:30):
because if you can stop Quinn Williams, everybody else more
or less is kind of downhill from there as far
as talent goes, with the exception of like a Cavon
Thibodeaux or a Dexter Lawrence, I should say, so, yeah,
there's that. So I feel like the comp I feel
like they'll get him blocked up real well. I agree
with Isaiah on that. And then from there you're asking

(29:51):
a lot of a very capable j. C. Horn. But
in that secondary that's it's him and who and who. Yeah,
so Mike.

Speaker 6 (29:59):
Jackson is bad. Yeah, they he needs to look at
the man in the mirror.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
He's no thriller. He's no thriller. I'll tell you that.
He is, like actually, yeah, Billy genis not listen. Just
but seriously, I mean, I expect that they'll probably travel
j C. Horn with George Pickens, because if they don't,
they don't make it makes it that much worse. Thing,

(30:24):
is that much worse?

Speaker 7 (30:25):
Derrick Brown for all in tons of pursses, that's their monstar.
Like I was saying before, I mean, he's he's like
Kenny Clark with an extra gear for past rush.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
He's a top ten pick out of Auburn whenever he
was drafted and still a young.

Speaker 7 (30:37):
Guy speculated that we may have traded for him for
the whole Mica situation. That may have been a possibility,
But I'm saying Derek Brown is their dude. If you're
able to stop him at the at the front of attack,
at the line, and you're not able to have the
pocket collapse in front of Dak Prescott, that's what I'm
concerned about. I'm concerned about that interior rush, and I'm
concerned about those running lanes not being open that they

(30:59):
can be Number eleven, Nick Scarton, I like him.

Speaker 6 (31:04):
He's very athletic.

Speaker 7 (31:05):
He's very physical, but he's like a like you said,
a bowl in a china shop where he sees red.

Speaker 6 (31:09):
But he can be he's a little.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Too fast, he's aggressive.

Speaker 7 (31:13):
He's very aggressive and he'll bite. So if you're able
to sort of get around him, I mean he's he's
going to play straight ahead B line and there's no
finesse to it. Really, he's just running a gunning. Ashan
Robinson is cleaning up because of what Derek Brown is
able to do.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
In Patrick Jones ninety one, he's six four, two sixty
four and he moves like a linebacker, like a true linebacker. Yeah,
he's freaking athletic. Now, I mean you get him going
one direction, he's high effort. You put a move on him,
he puts his foot in the ground. He's going with you.

Speaker 8 (31:41):
Oh yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (31:41):
And I only saw him really in the Dolphins game
Christian rose Boom. I thought he was like a really
solid tackler, so you're not going to get past him
a lot.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah, he's nice.

Speaker 6 (31:50):
And then the same for Trayvon Morigg is a number seven.

Speaker 5 (31:53):
Yeahg Morigg, mo heck mo Rig former TCU, excellent run defender, yes, excellent,
But he gets a in the box.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
He's there.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Don Way Wilson, Yeah, yes, plays downhill, he's yeah, shoots
the gap.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
He's quick, and.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
They like they like to run a dime, which is
really weird.

Speaker 6 (32:09):
They like to run.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
But like they'll they'll play three safeties, often three safeties
with two high safeties. So like you talk about more Rig,
he wants to be they want him in a box,
so he'll be he's a strong safety. They still have
the strong safety behind him, but they want him in
the box.

Speaker 7 (32:27):
And if we're talking about and Kyle preface this in
our rundown where it's like if you're in a posing offense.
How do you defend the Cowboys offense? For me, right now,
it's if you're able to collapse the middle of the
pocket and take away all of the middle of the
field that Dak loves. He loves using Jake Ferguson in
that scenario, If you're using guys like mow Rig and
Christian rose Boom to clear the middle up for them,

(32:50):
not give it available up to Dak Prescott at all,
and collapse the pocket in front of Dak, that's gonna
be a problem.

Speaker 10 (32:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
It's funny because when you look at the performances so
far by Carolina, four of the five games have been
pretty much the same right mid twenties. They've given up
twenty four, twenty six, twenty seven points, and then they
had just this one breakout game against Atlanta where they
shut out the Falcons. I mean it was thirty to
nothing and just shut them down. I was looking at

(33:17):
the box score. B Jhon Robinson is pretty good. Hunh
Bjehon's great, and they've got weapons.

Speaker 6 (33:21):
Ry held him to seventy four yards on the ground.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yeah, seventy four yards.

Speaker 5 (33:26):
Then you look at Michael Pennix Junior eighteen for thirty
six passing, and he had two picks thrown in that game.
There was like a weird special teams like muffed punk
situation in that game, but for the most part, Atlanta
just couldn't get anything going in that game.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
When it all comes together, How does it come together
for Carolina?

Speaker 2 (33:46):
The team trying to go lateral. You can't outrun their
low side linebackers. Okay, like I said, well, that's what
Bjon Robinson's best. No, he gets outside tackle box, don't
try it. Eleven and ninety one, don't do it.

Speaker 6 (33:57):
So it's literally about being the most physical upfront.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Absolute go downhill, go down to get ninety get ninety five.
Moved off the point, go downhill, get on their linebackers.
Like that's where you can you can out physical them.
Going straight ahead very much. So like last week, don't
go sideways. I was gonna say, go sideways.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
That's bad.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
You're gonna have two sixty five to sixty five running
you down. You know the beauty of Javonte Williams. Oh,
he's gonna he can run down here. He can get
in those A and B gaps. Hell, he accidentally ran
over Nate Thomas yeah, friendly fire on that big when
your left tackle is in the way, on the way
too to get that sixty six yards. So yeah, Javonte Williams,
he's I mean, he has the ability to to play

(34:33):
sideline the sideline, but he's a downhill. Hand me the
ball and let me get let me get into these
trenches typework. So going against like you said, you can't
outrun those guys, uh, sideline of sideline, Javonte Williams isn't
gonna try. He's gonna come.

Speaker 8 (34:45):
Right at you.

Speaker 6 (34:45):
And if they're playing zone defense, yes please Yeah, Like, if.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
There is ever a day for Fergie to have one
hundred yards, this is it. This would be the day.
This is it because there's gaps in their defense based
upon their skins, and they don't jam the number two
or number three offensive player coming out. So for Ferguson,
if he's attached coming off the line of scrimmage, there's
nobody there to jam them. The outside linebacker is outside
of him because they want to contain everything, and the

(35:13):
inside linebacker is on the inside in the box, so
he literally has a free release to the second level,
so there's nobody to stop him. There's nobody there that's
putting their hands on him. He's free. And again, if
you have questions about that, go watch Waller. Waller is
running around Button Neckett and they're just like, oh, I'm free,
thank you all day long.

Speaker 7 (35:30):
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Speaker 2 (35:34):
It feels like it's another opportunity for one Ryan Flinoy
to have a big game.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
If he has one hundred yards this week.

Speaker 5 (35:42):
We may not be able to let you.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
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Speaker 2 (35:48):
Right line line line all right?

Speaker 5 (35:52):
When we come back, I want to continue that conversation
from the first segment, the play calling, the motion, utilizing.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
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How much credit to Brian Schottenheimer deserve for how this
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you're with us?

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Now?

Speaker 5 (38:20):
There is oh yeah, there it is now. Whenever we
talk about Brian Schottenheimer. You talk about what is going
on with this offense, the number one total offense.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
In the NFL.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
How much credit does he deserve when it comes to
this offense because of the motion that he talked about
with Patrick and the utilization of.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Players in specific roles. There's a lot of good things
he's doing. And it continues going into.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
Week five, week six, and we're past September football. You
kind of know what you are? What do you think
it is? From the shot shot?

Speaker 7 (38:54):
He deserves so much credit, obviously, and he's standing by
what he said, and he was talking about how he
had to bite his lip under Mike McCarthy, and you know,
there were situations where he sort of wanted to do
something different than Mike McCarthy wanted to do as a
play caller. So now he's getting to do he has
that opportunity and the fact that he was here with
Dak with most of the offense being able to diagnose like,

(39:14):
all right in this situation is not what I do, buddy,
And you're seeing that more often and johnsy Williams is
a big part of that.

Speaker 6 (39:20):
But I think, and we talked about it a lot
after the the.

Speaker 7 (39:24):
What was this last game, the Jets game, where it's
the staff around him, the staff that he chose around him.
It's not just a bunch of guys. It's not the thing.
Oh my buddies are going to come out. No, like
Connor Riley Clayton Adams. I mean, it is really really good, Junior.
It is impressive. It is impressive. And we talked about
it after we started signing all these coaches. All of

(39:45):
the shows that we had were like, guys, this staff
is pretty good.

Speaker 6 (39:49):
Who said that, all of us here on this show
talking talking.

Speaker 7 (39:53):
Cowboys, research on the best Dallas Cowboys, that.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
We should all just go ahead and say again, yeah.

Speaker 6 (40:00):
I told you so.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Now you're not. You don't have your sign up for today.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
No, I don't have my sign because, yeah, somebody stole me.
Stole Let us see that on another show. Let us
see that in another the sign will make a return.

Speaker 7 (40:13):
I just need to But literally, we've been telling you
guys since they we started this whole coaching hiring.

Speaker 5 (40:18):
Process, and the coaching has been good. This team is
still to two and one. It's not implying that the
Cowboys are gonna win the Super Bowl because they're coaching
is facts, but you can all build on top of
things like this just and that's what we've.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Seen so far. Yeah, and to answer your question, I
believe that Brian Schottenheimer deserves a ton of credit for
what this offense has become. And that being said, he
doesn't deserve one hundred percent of the cry that's just sign.

(40:48):
This take does not imply the Cowboys will win the
Super Bowl. I need my sign back. It has been retrieved.
I love you protected it. That's what it was.

Speaker 6 (40:58):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
To make sure nobody came in here and did take
it for their show.

Speaker 7 (41:03):
Best show to frame that, No, absolutely definitely in front
of the screen.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
George Protector beam as the protector of the sign.

Speaker 6 (41:13):
A sign Steeler if you will. All right, Belichick, all right, let's.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Fight it out. Huh. But yeah, So Shoty deserves a
ton of the credit, but not one hundred credit. And
he readily he threw me out everyone who would listen
that most certainly when you look at Clayton Adams, Clayton
Adams has a pretty sizable fingerprint on this offensive scheme

(41:41):
every single week and coordinating and you know the script
it plays the first fifteen against teams and so again,
as much as we are praising Shoddy, and that's rightful
and it's justifiable, and we've said it before. This is
not the first time you've heard talking Cowboys mentioned Clayton
Adams and Connor Radley. But Clayton Adams just just he
does two things so exceptionally well with assisting with the

(42:05):
offensive line teachings with Connor Riley because he's a former
offensive line coach himself, but then also the ability to
coordinate an entire offense by himself. You get the best
of both worlds with him. So going back to what
what you coordinate, you got the mushrooms or in the
mushrooms like you did that, you got to go back
to what Josh said. Really when it comes to on
the offensive side of the ball, there was not a

(42:26):
buddy system there was There was no Mike Nolan esk
higher offensive side of the ball there was, Yeah, there
was none of that. There was flat out who's available
that's at the top of their position anywhere in the
NFL or in the collegiate.

Speaker 7 (42:41):
Ranks, and from shot and perspective, who are the guys
out there that deserve that shot, that have not gotten.

Speaker 6 (42:49):
That shot yet?

Speaker 2 (42:50):
He's a guy like Connor right.

Speaker 7 (42:51):
And just to derail us completely. Liam Cohen sounds like
the Little Martians from toy Story.

Speaker 6 (42:56):
Tony says that a stranger from the outside.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
I don't never on here that things that is pretty.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 8 (43:02):
Great.

Speaker 10 (43:03):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
Going back to the motion conversation, we've seen significant increases
in motion from the Brian Schottenheimer scheme and play calling
side of things.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
You talk about last year.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
Fifty eight point eight percent from Dallas motion pre snap
or any type of motion for that matter. When it
comes to the league trends, it continues to go up.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Year after year.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
Every year there's been more and more. This year, the
league trend in the league average is sixty three percent
of motion. Dallas is running sixty eight percent motion.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Oh, which is a ten percent increase from last year.

Speaker 6 (43:35):
That seems good.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Ten percent increase.

Speaker 5 (43:37):
It's above the league average, and they are top ten
in the league when it comes to running motion pre snap.
We've been calling for it as a fan base. I
feel like it's not even just talking counsel now, but
it's the whole fan base or found if the whole
league is seeing more motion, why is there no more
emotion or not any any more. E motion fifty eight
percent was even up I believe from twenty twenty three.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
I'll look up that number two.

Speaker 5 (43:59):
But the fact that there has been more creativity, there
has been more motion, more eyewash, and he talked about
how it is more for a defense to pick up
that shows that it's had some success already this year.

Speaker 10 (44:10):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
I mean it's important. It's important in all of our
fan fam that understood exactly what we're putting down, all
those all your back in training camp. You understand that
it helps the offense, it helps DAK, it helps the
offensive line, it helps the receivers, and it's tied and
it helps absolutely everybody. It is a coverage indicator. You're

(44:31):
looking for as much of an advantage every single snap
as you can get. So when I run motion, my
receivers are able to decipher exactly what are the safety
is doing as I come across. Is the reason why
when you see guys motion, they're not just looking where
they're going, They're looking across the line of screamage and see, Okay,
it's a safety moving and somebody following me. Okay, I
thought it was a B or C now it's going

(44:52):
to be A or B. Right, it's a process of elimination.
The quarterback is able to start deciphering what's going on. Right,
the checks up front as a center is sitting there
with his hand on ball and he's looking around. Obviously,
the line moves, and now the linebackers move. Now, whatever
you had on your piece of paper before that, this
is how you blocked this particular front. Now that's changed
to another piece of paper because now these guys just

(45:12):
moved a half inch over and that changes absolutely everything
for my blocking scheme. It helps. It's indicator or why
are you hard counting up front, because it's just letting
them know what is letting your officeive linemen know. Hey,
let's take a look at these guys that these guys
jump up. You see that indicator right there? Yes, blitz, Okay,
let's go ahead. What we get called blocking wise is
affirmed or we need to change it.

Speaker 6 (45:31):
Right.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
If I'm sitting up there and I'm brock Kaufman, all right,
but maybe we had a slide to the left. Boom
check check check check. You know what I'm saying right
right right, boom, that's it. That's all we need now,
everybody just changed their blocking assignments. So much of that
happens that you don't see from TV, And as Kyle's
laying it out, sixty eight percent is very important because
the defense not only has to figure out what the
heck you're doing, but while they're trying to figure you out,

(45:53):
figure figure it out, they're telling you what they're doing.

Speaker 8 (45:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (45:57):
Yeah, Well, in the amount of teams above you in
the motion department, you could probably say these are pretty
solid offenses.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
Would you like me to run through? By all means,
how about the forty nine Ers?

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Oh? Pretty good?

Speaker 3 (46:10):
You know, Kyle Shanahan, Joe Brady and the Buffalo Bills.
They're pretty solid. They didn't play well this past week,
but they're solid.

Speaker 5 (46:17):
Jacksonville, who's the Rams? Yeah, the Lions, Yeah, the Saints, yeah,
Kellen Moorea killing Yeah, yeah, I see Kellen. And then
some of the other teams that haven't had as much
success but are still traditionally good offenses. The Ravens, the Dolphins,

(46:37):
the Falcons.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
And the Packers.

Speaker 5 (46:39):
Those are the teams above Dallas in terms of running motion. Yes,
pretty solid offenses across.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
The good good company.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
It's a good group. It helps it definitely helps, certainly does.

Speaker 5 (46:49):
All right, that's gonna do. No Kyle Talking Cowboys. You
don't want to you want to stay for another.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Hour more QB Vision fanfams, the fan fams, fan.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
Moly, I can't say that fandom fan fanly phanomly. We
got something different, family I figure Talking Cowboys Nation fan fam.

Speaker 12 (47:13):
All right for Patrick nose Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah standback,
Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeomans'll see you tomorrow,
Cowboys Defensive Preview, and some lab code from Patrick Nosey Walker.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
We'll see you then.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
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