Talkin’ Cowboys: Share the Wealth

Kyle Youmans, Patrik Walker, Isaiah Stanback, and Josh Rodriguez discuss how the Cowboys’ offense can spread targets and find rhythm in both the passing and run game, with the possible return of CeeDee Lamb. With a familiar foe in Commanders HC Dan Quinn, the crew breaks down how Dak Prescott can stay both balanced and unpredictable.

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stand back, Chris Beam is in the back. So glad
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We are so back. Yesterday off had a lot going
on within travel and family and obligations. We get the
people going absolutely mischie guys yesterday. Glad to be back
today and to talk about this Cowboys team trying to
keep the offensive moment. I'm going against one dan Quinn watch.

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By the way, he starts doing the post game breakdown
of the Cowboys and dance. Explain yours? Okay, but did
he do it on Talking Cowboys? No? Where did he?

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Where did he do the Rico dance?

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Good morning? Okay? Okay, you guys done?

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Yeah, okay, hey Beamer, explain, Hey Beamer, I've been a
representative of Talking Cowboys for how many years now?

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Since twenty twenty twenty twenty six years?

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Yeah?

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Six years? Six years?

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Are six?

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Sixth season? Yeah?

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And I am an extension of you guys. Oh yes,
I am an extension of Talking Cowboys. Would you guys
disagree with that?

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I would?

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Wherever I go, I represent you guys, come, and I
represent our listeners. Okay, So where I am here upstairs
on the toilet or in the freaking.

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Good Morning Football.

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I'm now hey, let's yes right, I am gonna to
represent my people.

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You know what else I did this week, since we're.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Bringing it up, I did the Rico dance. You know why,
because I am talking cowboys wherever I go. You know
what else I did? I gave a shout out to
Barry Church on the show. I brought up BC one
of his quotes.

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You know what his quotes. It's gonna cost you a little,
It's gonna cost you a lot, but it's going to
cost you. You know what else?

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I brought up Nate Newton, Oh wow, John Wick in
reference to Aaron Rodgers. So wherever I go, I take
my brothers with me because I am my brother's keeper. Okay,
So that being said, I like it. That's that one
hold on that's being said. She money, yes, okay, checked
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A movie section, a segment on football.

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Please allow me to REBUTI hit retort, Allow me to retort,
and Tom, you shout it out, Barry Church.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
I love it. You shout it out, big Nate. I
love I didn't say big Nate, though, I didn't say,
but I just said this quote. Okay, fair enough, but
did you did you shout out talking count? I mean,
do I have to?

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like I'm one of the main ingredients here. You are,
you are. What we're saying is for the people that
don't know, this is not infringement. If I if I
was a personality that just came in the show and
then jumped out of the show when this are using
our stuff, I would feel like you need to you
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But you're you're saying that you are foundational.

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Yeah, okay, so let me just bring it down for
a second.

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For one second, I think, to echo what Patrick is saying,
to kind of finish off the argument. It would have
been nice if you just said our name.

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Okay, maybe next time. The Cuban missile crisis to.

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All right, that is the crisis of Good Morning Football.

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I I was thinking about my brothers, and I saw
the opportunity and I took it.

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It was a little shout. It was a little shout,
yea thank you. It was a little bit of that
was for you.

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You guys think that anybody else knew that, but you
should have said anybody else?

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With anybody else is.

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From Talking Cowboys on dallascowboys dot com, where you get
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But guess what I had, I had sliver of I
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Who would know what I was talking about?

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All the talking listeners, the family?

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Do you think the gmf B family who knew what
I was doing?

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Absolutely absolutely freaking not. So that was homage to my
brothers and our listeners.

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It's okay, it was communication.

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And Chris Rendon in the chat says, you should have
said because I'm always talking cowboys, I could.

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Have could have found like like the khy sat it away.

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It's fine, I'm gonna I'm gonna make a sign for
you to take with you next time.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
I'll take it with me.

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So there you just hold just take this. And I
thought I was doing a good thing with it backfired. Listen,
where do we get We're just giving? We're just give
a hard time when you get to music. Yeah, we
love Isaiah. Isaiah's cooking up real nice. Make sure you'll
check him out on Good Morning Football. If you have
multiple monitors, if you have multiple devices, you can watch
this concurrently exactly. But you know what President that makesure
you the sound on with this one. Yeah, yeah, I

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have a sound on this one. So we love him.
We were having phone with him with that in the
group chat before we got here.

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So what does he give? Give him some smoke? Josh.

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I have that shirt. So that's the one he wants.
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I thought he hated coffee.

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You don't have that sound too. I have been converted.
We don't hate coffee on this bro. No, no, no, Here's.

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The thing is he said he didn't drink coffee.

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Now he's not.

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So all right, news and notes.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
The Cowboys are back on the practice field today.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Sorry, that's all they say at my house now they anyways,
Dad's no. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
So Cowboys back on the practice field today for the
first time this week to start preparing for the visiting
Washington Commanders. Based on the conversations that were had and
heard over the radio with Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones
and even Brian Schottenheimer, he played it. He downplayed a
little bit, which is kind of on brand for him
as the head coach. He wants to see these guys

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on practice on the practice field first, but he did
express the same optimism with Jerry Jones saying thumbs up,
thumbs up on Ceedee Lamb and Cavante Turpin and possibly
likely even returning this week.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
To take on the Washington commander.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
So it could be some firepower on the way for
the Cowboys offensive side of the ball.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Well, no, see, what does that do for the defense?

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Not a damn thing, But it does help the offense
even more, so, I got to tell you, And those
are two big weapons. Obviously, goes without saying. The expectation
is also that Carson, Kayln Carson, and Jonathan Mingo. So
Kaylyn Carson is your defensive help. That's on the way.
You can view that however you choose to view it.
He and Jonathan Mingo are expected to be activated to

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the fifty three man roster this week. Cowboys really have
until next Wednesday to make that decision, but sounds like
they're gonna make.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
It this week. We'll see.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
They did waive wide receiver Jalen Cropper yesterday to make
room for at least one of those guys. He will
go through waivers over the next twenty four hours or
twenty four hours from yesterday, So we'll know today at
some point, no later than three o'clock Central time, if
he cleared and if he clear expectation and the hope
is from the Cowboys that he returns to the practice squad.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
What do you believe? I believe he clears. Yeah, he'll clear.
Have you seen it?

Speaker 5 (10:10):
And remember he was on the practice squad the entirety
of the season, so teams have had ample opportunity. But yeah,
he played a little bit. But I don't think want
to change.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
I think you're fine. Yeah, I think he clears.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
And if he doesn't clear, then congrats to him and
wishing well no matter what happens. You know, obviously wishing
well if he's on the practice squad here because you
want to got to do well. And if he gets
claimed by another team, that means another team also believed
in him, and you know, shouts out to him for that.
So as it stands, that's the only transaction, the corresponding move.
As far as activating Carson or Mingo, that hasn't happened yet,

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so give it another day or too. We'll see which
one of those two things happens, if not both.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
So if they activate, so that they're leaving that spot.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Open for a moment, but you know how it goes.
It does, so something done.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
So with that spot open, and they would need to
clear one more spot, yes, if they want in order
to reactivate Mingo and Carson at that point.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Yes, sir, who you think that person would be? That's
the question. I guess.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
I don't want to throw names out.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
There if you're going to bite on the cheese.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Geez.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
It may also be one of those situations where there's
an injury that we don't know about quite yet, of course,
where it was an injury depth guy ends up with
an ankle something like that. R ing, Yeah, what was that?

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Ing?

Speaker 5 (11:29):
Yeah, something like that. Yes, you got to get something's
on it.

Speaker 6 (11:32):
In terms of uh cause, I know I think there's
a conversation there and when you're talking about Kayln Carson
coming back, I don't know if that's necessarily help on
the way, Like you said, you choose can interpret that
how they interpret that. But just curious to you guys,
does it sort of feel like having Kalen Carson back
into the fold? Does it feel like sort of like
a starting over with kaal and Carson because you didn't

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necessarily get to see him play very well or very
much in his rookie season.

Speaker 5 (11:59):
It's a great question because I think he has had
a reset period, right.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah, he's just trying to get healthy.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
He's just trying to stay healthy enough to wear because
even he.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Played through injury. Remember when he played at.

Speaker 5 (12:12):
The end of his time playing, he played through some
some different things. I think this is his final clean slate.
You get the opportunity, you get him out there and
you'd see what you hope you were getting out of
the draft and in his opening training camp and things
like that. It's on that opening game in Cleveland where
he played well. I think all of those things are true.

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But you also have to have the expectation that he
won't be an immediate help, and that is there's going
to be a little bit of a ramp.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Up period there.

Speaker 6 (12:40):
But would it be safe to say that you might
have an upgrade over a guy like kyer Elim.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Maybe maybe that's what you're hoping for and that's all
you can hope for. And I do agree. I do
think this is a reset for Kaitlyn Carson. I think
this is basically a blowout the cartridge type thing OG reference.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
That's a great you know, So this is putting in your.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Shirt, blow up the cartridge, put it in the if
it works, and.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Playing Donkey Kong guntry.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, So I think that's what it is and what
it has to be for Kailing Carson like you mentioned,
and like I said, a time or two double dribble
like I.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
Played that the other day NBA jam What was it?

Speaker 3 (13:20):
No double dribble dribble before different before your time.

Speaker 5 (13:24):
I thought it was an NBA JAM reference.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Before I didn't know what the reference was. My bad.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
It's a double.

Speaker 7 (13:36):
Dribble bther this guy.

Speaker 5 (13:40):
All right, guys, appreciate you here talking cowboys.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
It's been so much. He doesn't know anything about double dribble,
and I know it before his time. Sorry about Kyle's
a sound basketball player. Apologies, wouldn't know what the double
dribbles if it hit him, you know, you know it's
kind of crazy though. We don't have any sponsors in
terms of that.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
But my sister, my sister just sent me some old
stuff from like like my mom's house. She was cleaning out,
like the basement and the garage and all that. She
sent me my old high school double bag. Okay, and
it had. She sent me my PlayStation original one PS one,
but the original bro with the game loads in the top.
Bro me on C double A all my C double

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A games and everything.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
I'm about the hook it up with my son's one thing.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
I will never forgive my sister, never forgive her for it,
and she'll she knows this to this day when she
was When we were kids and I had my original PlayStation, my.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Parents saved up money.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
We didn't come from a ton of money, saved it up.
Me got it for Christmas, parents or Christmas present, and
it was the coolest present I had ever gotten in
my life. My sister like two weeks after getting it,
maybe a little more more like two months after getting it,
she was probably five or six. She like when it
was open, the cartridge was open, there was a little
ring at the top, and she thought like it was

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a ring that you could put on your finger, So
she like clicked it off and put it on like
a like as like jewelry. And I remember trying to
click my CD my game back in the top and
I was like it won't spin. Why is it not spinning?
And I was like where is this part? Like I
don't know what's going on. I was probably ten years old.
I didn't know what to do. And I looked around
and she had it on her finger and it was

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like no way. We took it to a place they
couldn't fix it at the time, and I ended up
like not getting I never got to play that PlayStation ever.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Your sister wanted to get married. I don't know if
it was on a ring finger. I think it may
have been on one of the other ones.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
By the way, By the way, Double Dribble was released
in nineteen eighty seven.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, day was amazing, amazing As as someone who has sisters,
I can just tell you right now, the payback that
would have occurred.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Against their dolls. Their dolls would have.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Been it would have looked like a scene from Sauce Pain.
It would have a scene from Actually Can take over.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Here twenty five years later, I'm still feeling trauma.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
That one hurts.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Speaking of things that hurt, came a cart person did
play through injury last year.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
I tried to pull a county that that was good.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Kayln Carson did play through injury, And like I mentioned
a few times on the show, I had some some
really in depth off the record conversations with that young man,
and he told me about the shoulder struggles also and
how that compromised his ability to tackle. Because he was
honest with me. He was like, hey, when your shoulder
is you know, popping in and out. Yep, you lose
the willingness to go hit, to go hit. That was

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part of his draft tape. That was the good thing.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah yeah. People say, well he's said, hey, he's he's
whiffing on. Yeah, you know, what is it.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
I've had three evidence, three labor evidence, as is talking
to this day.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
It's still mentally is like, oh yeah, I'm not gonna
throw that arm out there. So now that Kevin Carson
is completely healthy and has so much time removed from
the shoulder issues, like you said, hard reset, now let's
see if he's willing to get his body back out there.
Let's see if one of the green flags coming out this.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
Is his final chance.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
No, you don't thinks so, no, no, no, no, no, no, okay,
I don't think it can be when you're struggling with
guys like how you're elam and.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Right current situation.

Speaker 6 (17:12):
In the future of some of those guys to this
defense in particular.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Exactly, So I don't feel like this as we have
this conversation to him being activated likely this week, I
don't think this is the final chance. I think that
you know, as long as he's serviceable, at this point,
that's something to build on.

Speaker 6 (17:27):
He just has to get back on track, and that's
something that he wasn't able to do. Like we're saying,
from the shoulder injury last year, even when he was
trying to grit through it and play through it.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
It's it's a hard reset.

Speaker 6 (17:37):
If he's one hundred percent healthy, just let him start
from one.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Does he come in and leap frog on the depth chart?
I can't imagine how hard that would be.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
I agree with that, but I don't think immediately because
I think that they have to feel him out as
far as like Grace, I mean, you're coming off of
an injury, then another injury to had you in ir
to start this season.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
So he'll get opport unity.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, that's my point. You get opportunities and he might
leap frog.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
How much that I.

Speaker 6 (18:08):
Mean if they are competing every day, then I can't
imagine it'll be that hard for him the leap flower frog.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
But give him a couple of weeks or so, it
could happen.

Speaker 6 (18:18):
But that situation has turned since.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
But that would be ideal for the Cowboys if Kiln
Carson kind of histor ground running and leap frog's anybody
on the depth charge and that's a good sign for him.

Speaker 6 (18:27):
And that's not to mention sivone revel either.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Who's on the come up? Where's he at still still?
So do we have any word as the not a thing.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
The the entire stance of the organization is that there
has not been a setback. But I my opinion, just
my opinion, I don't like using that. They don't like
using it period. I I think it looks like.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
I will say this based in evidence to what Kayla saying,
I don't know that there's been a setback and not
been a setback. I can tell you that he's now
working in a race and he was not worth working
on a brace initially. So do with that information what
you will.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
Yeah, it's just it's tough to kind of really tell
because we're not behind the scenes and we don't have
the one the training or to the eyes of the
training staff to get on it. But the information you
can get take context clues of oh, he was going
to be back within the first month of the season.
If you were a month and a half in and
he hasn't even gotten on the grass, can.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
You please remind the people as to where he was
drafted at third round, third round, and the expectation was
for him to be back.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
When hasn't happened yet?

Speaker 3 (19:31):
All right?

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Oh?

Speaker 1 (21:17):
I watched. I've been seeing some good things totally. They
have some talent, you have some great talents, and.

Speaker 7 (21:24):
They got some fight. Hoping this is the year me too. Oh,
I'm Cody. By the way, I'm Travis.

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Nice to meet you. Travis. Go Cowboys Go.

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We've got Isaiah stand back back in the building.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
How is that you like that that black rifle get
your some.

Speaker 5 (22:22):
Jingle.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
That's like one of the best logos ever. Like, you
know what the funny thing is.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Before I left the other day, you know, did the
pregame postgame shows with the Cowboys, and then I went
and go hop on a flight.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
I grabbed my.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Bags and I was like, okay, I need some comfortable
clothes to wear on a flight on an airplane. I
grabbed my black Rifle T shirt and it had that
logo on it, and I was like, I love this shirt.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
It's a comfortable shirt.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
But you can't see on that particular logos he's holding
like a you know, a weapon.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
And you know, black rifle, Black rifle. Yeah, I was like,
this is probably not the shirt to wear on the
American airlines, like that one doing the ape.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Not your regular size human walking on a plane with
a black what a freaking I don't even know what
that is.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Sasquatch holding a rifle. Probably not a decision.

Speaker 6 (23:11):
It's good though, is gonna get real friendly with you?

Speaker 2 (23:14):
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Did you know, can't go wrong?

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Fun factor day before you say what you're gonna say
when you walk on an airplane? So my wife used
to be a flight attendant, and did you know that
when you walk on an airplane, the flight attendants are
what's the.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Best way to say, they're profile.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, they're profiling you to see who can help in
an emergency situation?

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Do you guys know that? Really?

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (23:40):
They profile you to say, Okay, who can in the
case of an emergency? Who can I go up to
to help us in a situation that I need some physics?
That explains why I'm always like, oh hi, how's it
going there? Bro? So every.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Ever since I was made aware of that, like I
can literally see, I can see when I'm being profiled
in that way, right, now negative profile, but profile. I'm
super aware now, Like they look at you, they're like, hey, I'm.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Like, yeah, you just put me in that bucket. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
Whenever I walk on every time they've got a clipboard
and they say.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Out scratching quick shouts out to Chris and Johnathan, I
see you both.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yes, Tokyo Google, if you seen it, you know what
else you've seen? What else have I seen?

Speaker 5 (24:26):
You've seen some film? Because it's time for a little
bit of QB.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Why Eddie, why Eddie cut up?

Speaker 4 (24:33):
It's time for QB vision with Isaiah's standback.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Let me go.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
All right, let's talk about it. Not a whole lot
to talk about because you guys already know this, all right.
I know our listeners are educated because we always ensure
that you are the what smartest ones in the room.
You know this guy, you know, dan Quinn Washington Commanders.
He was for a number of years a little bit
he had defense balling. He changed the culture over here,
so we know what he's all about. Who does he

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have over there that you're familiar with.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Well, there's a handful of guys. Doris Armstrong kind of
know him.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
He's a little before a little bit beat up right now,
hamstring issues in and out the game, but you know
what he provides when he is there. Other names, Okay,
he has some veteran contributors. It's just nine, yeah, ninety.
Doron Pain he's still a dude. He's still a due.
Deron Pain is still a dude. Is he as much
of a dude as he once was? I don't believe so,

(25:32):
but you still gotta respect him. Yeahs is not so
good right now for them. Javon Kinlaw another big name
that everybody's familiar with. He's been a really good player
for a.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Very long time. Would be a better me too, Me too,
Let's go to be a dude. Who else do they have?
Jeremy Reeves and Marshaun Lttimore, Tostedo Plaza, so those are
also on the Von Miller that's another name that you
guys would be familiar with just from being a vetterer,
being a veteran in the league. He's kind of a
highed assassin at this point, the eternal rookie bro.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
He's walking around just collecting checks right from whoever he
wants to give out a contract.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
So those are the big names that you guys play
at high level to be fair for sure.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Okay, define hot, yeah, oh ignogny did. I couldn't say
his name when he first was here, but he's still
there as well.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Those are all.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Names that you guys are familiar with that, in my opinion,
are not doing amazing things. They're guys that have big names,
but they're not doing amazing things outside.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
In ninety four, durn Payne put some respect on his name.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Now let's get to the guys that you know their
name and they are contributing. Let's talk about their linebackers.
Bobby Wagner freaking out Hall of Famer go jacket. I know,
I know, Bobby.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
Was he still still that good Bobby in two hundred
tackles a year?

Speaker 3 (26:50):
And how is he?

Speaker 5 (26:51):
That's an exaggeration.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
We had a chance to get him by one. We
did have a chance.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
We had a chance to get him here. We opted
to go in a different direction, and that individual is
no longer playing football.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Tried to get him here, I know, but he ended
up getting him there.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
So Bobby Wagner is still one heck of a middle
linebacker in this league, not just just he is a
vampire in the sense that he just seems to not age.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
A fountain of youth if you will.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
Tony also just like disappears off the film and then
pops up where the ball is.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Listen like he just like just te can't mirror or
anything at night crawl.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
And if he's in the area of the ball, you're
probably going to the ground because he's a tackling machine.
He has a comrade. They gave him the game of
bash Bro. What you say, yes, I man, Frankie Levoo.
Frankie Levoo, I like Louvu. Really good player. Okay, So
fifty four and four those two who's about that action?

(27:47):
He's about that action.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
Boss.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Both of those guys will run and hit Bobby. Bobby,
he's kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
I like him.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
I mean, that's what you want, right. If you hear crazy, man,
I like you.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
If you have a solid middle linebacker, the best thing
you can do is give him somebody on the out
on outside of booking him right, booking him with linebackers
that can run and hit right, that are that are
just violent, sometimes reckless. But guys at Seaball hit ball
is the reason why we're looking forward to uh the
de Marbreon Overshaw coming back he's that stylid player, you know, Shamar.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
James, you know, came at seventeen tackles this first game.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Like those guys at Seaball hit ball, they don't hesitate
because the middle linebackers always going to ensure that they're right.
So those are the two guys on this defense that
I believe is really the core of their team right now,
those two plus Darron Pain.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
What do they do? Well, we know what they do.
We know that they're going to do a four man front.
We know that they're going to load the box up.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
We know that they're gonna play single high safety, and
they're going to mix up coverages between primarily playing cover one,
Press one and playing cover three, and every so often
they'll mix into two high safety. But they do it
in a way that, oh, we're being very very sneaky.
Is single high and then all of a sudden they're
safety who is a down safety, strong side strong side
line safety turns and runs. Soon as you see that

(28:59):
guy turn at the snap of the ball and run,
they're running to a cover two. Okay, it's as plain
as day. I mean, it's ridiculous, right, They're not hiding
at all. They think they're being tricky like, oh, I'm
in the box and then they literally and they has
to snap in the ball. It is Halloween after it.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
They're not backpedaling, they're not angling.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
They are turning and sprinting because they have a long
way to go to get to their position. It's very
obvious when they're going to high safety. So with all
that being said, there's nothing that they're going to do
that you're going to be surprised by. There's nothing that
they're going to do that you haven't seen that you're
not comfortable with, that you're not confident in being able
to eliminate.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
What do they do? Well, don't get in third and long. Hmm,
that's really it.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
I wish I had more to give you. Don't get
in third and long. These guys are going to press you.
These guys are going to bring pressure. Occasionally, when they
do bring pressures, it's usually up the middle with one
of those linebackers. They want to they want to come
through the middle of Yeah, they want to come through
the middle of your set. They're going to widen out
the defensive ends that they're going to try to get
your offensive line to go from being hip to hip
shoulder to shoulder, and they're going to try to spread

(30:04):
these guys out to create running lanes for their linebackers
to go ahead and penetrate and get to your quarterback.
These guys are six in the league and quarterback sacks.
They have eighteen quarterback sacks on a year. They're doing
relatively well in that department in terms of rushing yards
giving up, not great, Bob, not great, middle of the league,
middle of the pack there. In terms of passing yards

(30:26):
given up, bottom of the league, okay, bottom six. I
believe it is these guys are giving up yards, yes, sir.
I have a question for QB visions. What you got there, sir?
Do they prefer zone or man coverage?

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Oh? Man, sir man, they are many. They're manning. They
they are manning.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
No Peyton. These guys want to get up to the
line of screams, put hands on you. They want to
bless you. So there's a lot of opportunity to get
these guys in the passing game. But I truly believe,
as good as their linebackers are that you can still
run the ball. I really think that you can run
the ball. And with their guys playing down in the box,
seven man box, sometimes eight man box, depending on your personnel.

(31:05):
Grouping offensively, if you can get that effective running game going,
you can throw the ball all day long because they
don't have one corner that can take away what you
do passing wise, not one. They brought in Marshaun Lattimore
to be that guy two years ago.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
They brought him in, They traded for him. They gave
up some solid draft equity to get him in there
because they thought he was that goon on the outside
that can come up, press you, bring the attitude and
put hands on you at the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
He's not that whatever they thought he was. He is
not what they thought he was. So they don't have
a guy, so what can they do. All they can
do is try to get pressure with their front four,
and they don't have a guy Von Miller, Dorrin's Armstrong.
None of those guys are really getting to the quarterback
right now. Is typically by committee, and if you find
yourself in a third and long situation, that's where they're
getting these eighteen sacks. They're forcing you to hold the

(31:53):
ball because they're pressing you up on the outside and
they're not allowing your receivers to get clean releases. So
as a quarterback, what do you have to do. I
have to sit back to hold the ball a little
bit longer right. Instead of it getting rid of it
in two point five deal two point seven seconds, I
have to hold it to three seconds right so that
my receiver can actually get some separation. And usually by
that time, dan Quinn is banking on his guys getting
to your guy. That is all they do. That's all

(32:14):
they've shown in these first six games. That's all they
have shown for the last few years of dan Quinn.
They're just a little bit less effective this year in.

Speaker 5 (32:21):
Their top ten in the league in terms of running zone.
To give you a little bit more concrete answer, they
run in about thirty six percent of the time, which
still means it's more than most teams in a single
So it most of it is cover one, yeah, cover three. Yes,
I think fifty percent of their snaps are cover one
and cover three is what it looks like here.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
So when Kyle gives you guys as stat don't don't
be oh no, they play a lot of his own.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
They playing cover three.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Cover three most often times turns into cover one.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
And this is why I pose the question because I
wanted you guys to break this down just before you're
doing it for the fans so they understand, because they
might log into like a next gen.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Is almost we can take it. Yeah, not so fast.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
It looks like so Cover three looks like Cover one
oftentimes until you have receivers that run across the formation.
When our receivers cross the field, that's when it causes
a lot of issues for a Cover three because now
you have a safety that has to make a decision
on which direction to go. Who is he taking? Is
he taking the over route? Is he taking the shorter route?
Is he taking the deep posts that's threatening him over

(33:29):
the top. You can create a lot of issues again
if you can block it up and you can stay
in good down the distance. I am not afraid or
even threatening a little bit. I respect the heck out
the coach and what he can do. If you can
stay in good down a distant situation, I don't foresee
this being a problem, but you better figure out ninety
four and you better not allow fifty four and FOURID

(33:51):
to have run throughs.

Speaker 6 (33:52):
My thing is, at least with this defensive line, you're
not going up the Panthers front again, which sounds kind
of crazy, But now that we know the result of
what the Panthers did to you with Derrek Brown Nashan Robinson,
you're not facing that. You have to respect Doron Payin,
of course, but it's not like you're unfamiliar.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Of what these guys are prospecting to you.

Speaker 6 (34:08):
You know, Darren's armstrong. Darren's armstrong, excuse me, and you
know what he's going to do for me. Like you said,
it's the linebackers, it's Frankie Louvu, it's what Rose Boom
did the Dak last week and kind of giving him
fits and kind of getting him off his spot. Lufu
is going to do that tenfold. He's going to do
that a lot. And Bobby Widener is there to clean
up a lot of that mess because he can. He

(34:30):
can cover the middle by himself, it seems like, so
you have to be concerned there. Saint rustol Is, that
is uh sanstrol Is, dan Quinn's Jay Lou that's what
he's using him for. Eighty percent of the time. He's
in that nickel formation covering the slot, so you have
to be aware of that. Having CD back for this game,

(34:51):
if at all possible, is going to be huge for
you because you will be able to clean up on
the outside with Cede Lamb and George Reed.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
This has to be a bounce back game for this,
for this ground attack from the Cowboys, and you mentioned
it's the way you mentioned it as far as like
you know, the Panthers front all credit due to those guys.
They absolutely just bullied. Absolutely they did. But I see
that and I hate it. But then I see what
they did against a front that had Quentin Williams and

(35:21):
I love it. I see what they did again against
the front that had Keevon Thibodeau and Dexter Lawrence, and
I love it. So these guys in the trenches for
the Cowboys, offensively.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
They can move bodies. They just didn't do it last week.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
And then we'll see if Tyler Booker talk about guy's returning,
you're likely getting Cavante turping back. You're likely getting Cede Lamb,
like you said, massive, massive, because it just I mean
even with George Pickens, and let's say Flinoyd continues to
contribute that that du will own stresses their personnel. But
then you add CD and George and it's just like
they better pray for pray for anything but rain, because

(35:54):
rain is coming. But then when you look at the
offensive line, if Tyler Booker can get back on the
field to help you with that push against a guy
like Deron Payne, then yeah, maybe you can, and hopefully
you can get Javonte Williams going again. You do that,
now you're in third and mid third and short and
it's just fair game from that math.

Speaker 6 (36:09):
And at that point you just have to eat the clock, man,
because you don't want this defense out there very long.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Yeah, no, no doubt about that.

Speaker 5 (36:15):
And I've got a question when it comes to pass
rush because you're talking about the sacks. They have eighteen
sacks in the year, top ten in the league in
that category, but they're kind of middle of the pack
in terms of time two sack, which is becoming more
and more of a prevalence that in the next gen era,
they're about halfway actually below AdVac more than anything, How
do they get their pressure, because there's a blitz percentage

(36:35):
there that dan Quinn will use certain guys. Where does
it come from. If Dak press Gott is going to
be pressured, where is it coming from?

Speaker 3 (36:42):
It's coming from the middle. They're blitting from inside.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
But it goes back to the point I made that
if you find yourself in a third and long situation,
what are their corners going to do.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
They're gonna come up in press.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yeah, right, And if come up from press, it disrupts
my ability to get off the ball. It normally takes
me one point five seconds to get to ten yards.
Now it's taking me one point eight, one point nine,
you know what I'm saying, to get to get to
ten yards. And then when I get to that point,
now I got to try to get your hands off me.
Like the quarterback is having to sit back and hold
the ball to allow the receiver to do his work. Right,

(37:14):
I have to allow my receiver to do work at
the line of scrimmage. I have to allow my receiver
to do work at the top of his route. And
that's why teams that have corners that can press, and
you have defensive lines that can get to the Quarterback's
the reason why those are some of the most disruptive
teams in the league. We can go back in history.
You can go back to Seattle Legion and Boom. That's
why they were so effective right. The defensive line was
absolutely nasty, and the cornerbacks can come up and press

(37:36):
you with there with the long arms.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
That's what dan Quinn wants to do. That's what he's
coming from early exactly right. So now the quarterback is
having the force balls and get the ball out earlier
than he wants to.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
That's what he wants to do. Schematically, he doesn't have
the corners to do it. So having if you can
get CD back, if you can get turping back, if
you can have Georgia out there.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
Guys that win at the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Now you're screwed because now you have whether you're running
one or whether you're running three, it looks the same.
The only difference is if you're running three, you have
four underneath defenders. If you're running one, you have three
underneath defenders that are responsible for guys coming out the
backfield response for tight ends. Everybody has a responsibility versus
cover three. My outside guys are playing it like man,

(38:18):
but they're responsible for that third of the field. If
you can overload them and overload their responsibilities, you can
really really take advantage of them.

Speaker 5 (38:25):
I found the exact number fifty seven percent of snaps
from dan Quinn's defense have been in cover one or
cover Threeah, so more than half the time they're running that.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
And when they run two, it's the most obviously in
the worlos. Yeah, and then I'll GUIs it at all?

Speaker 3 (38:38):
All right? Well, we're used to that.

Speaker 5 (38:39):
When we come back. Oh, here I go speaking on
the same thing about George Pickens and Cede Lamb returning,
Cavante Turpin returning. What is the target share going to
look like.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
With the guys?

Speaker 5 (38:50):
Because George Pickens has had an incredible couple of weeks.
How do you keep that momentum going without taking opportunities
away from ced Lamb? There's only one ball to go
around when we come back with more talking Cowboys one beat?

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Speaker 2 (42:17):
Even if it's a large, I eat a whole medium
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extra large pizza. But you got three huge appetites. Okay,
who are those three appetites? Well, you got Cede Lamb,
You have George Pickens, and you have the guy who
catches everything pretty much five yards and it uh the
leading tight end reception leader in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
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Speaker 1 (42:41):
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Speaker 3 (42:42):
So three huge appetites. One pizza. How do you slice it?

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Speaker 2 (42:48):
I think I think you gets a new pizza every
every play to new pizza every play. I mean, you
don't go into any of these plays saying that, Okay, well,
you know, going for for the whole game.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
We're all going to from the same piece.

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And you know, George, you're on a heater, so we're
gonna make sure we target you, you know, nine times
in CD, seven times or six times until further notice.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
No, no, no, no no. You take what the defense is
giving you.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
And that's why I love what Dak Prescott is saying
when he's asked questions about you know, when CD was
on the field, and he's asking him, well, do you
find yourself sometimes looking for CD? Do you find yourself
sometimes looking for George after you've targeted CD two or
three times? To make sure George gets involved where Jake
gets involved. His answers always know, you take what the
defense is giving you, which is fair, and that's how
you should approach it.

Speaker 6 (43:32):
So that should be deep dish pizza this week.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
There you go Chicago style. If you will look so
if you if you approach it that way, you should be.
But if you approach it that way, then by the
end of the game, because there should be no egos
in a win. Okay, maybe this particular game against the
Commander CD comes in and he goes off twelve catches,
one hundred and seventy five yards, two touchdowns, and maybe

(43:54):
George has, you know, six catches for sixty yards, Jake
has his handful and everybody's if it's a win, okay.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Absolutely, Or maybe it's the opposite.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Maybe George goes off again and this one fifty and one,
and you know, whatever the case may be, just approach
it by.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Rep I think that's the right answer.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
I think that's what they should as a team rely on,
is take what the defense can give you. But we've seen,
at least in a short sample size, going into week three,
there was a considerable effort to get Ceedee Lamb the football.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
In weeks one and two.

Speaker 5 (44:29):
There wasn't as much of an emphasis on getting George
Pickens the football in weeks one and two. It happened three, four,
five down the road, and he's been incredible and he's
earned he's the private opportunity when he was the primary receiver.
So at some point, we haven't seen three the first
six weeks, we have not seen them have an emphasis

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on getting both guys ample opportunity early in the game.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Do you think it can happen?

Speaker 5 (44:54):
That's what I'm asking. Do you think we can get
to that point?

Speaker 6 (44:58):
Absolutely? You have to make it happen. And granted, if
the defense's plan is to like, let's avoid that at
all costs, like Dak is saying, take what the defense
gives you, ja, I mean, if that's what they're giving you,
that's what they're giving you, get first.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Down to control the clock.

Speaker 9 (45:13):
Man.

Speaker 6 (45:14):
At this point, I can't stress enough how important this
is to just to me watching the game, is that
you don't want to see the defense on the.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Field at all.

Speaker 6 (45:22):
So just keep the ball as long as humanly possible.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Jeremy Jeremy Reeves is going to be responsible for reguarding
Jake Ferguson.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
That's fair.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
Think about it this way.

Speaker 5 (45:30):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
I like those words. I like that a lot. I
like those words. You guys, a question, and this is
a realistic question.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Do you think that there's a chance Dak Prescott throws
forty times in this game?

Speaker 3 (45:40):
I hope not. I hope either.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Do you think there's a chance, a chance if that
were to happen, then look at the split.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
Then let's say you do it split.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
You target CD ten, you target George ten, you target
Jake five to six.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
That's twenty five twenty six. You're off by like twelve.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Fair Yeah, space and he sprinkling Cavante turpin, you know,
flinoy whatever I'm saying. If this turns out to be
a game where that has to throw forty times, it's
it's easy to you know, split.

Speaker 5 (46:10):
Can you win like that with this team?

Speaker 3 (46:11):
Though?

Speaker 5 (46:12):
Because if you're throwing it forty times, a lot of
it is going to be working from behind because you're
having to catch up and you're trying to play on
the offensive.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Such will happen. The answer is no, which I happened.
Answer is no.

Speaker 6 (46:24):
If you're relying on Dak Press Gott throwing forty times,
you're just opening yourself up for issues. For me, it's
just it's consistency and running the ball and being able
to spell in these things and a lot of that too.
It's like it's not for me just splitting the reps
between uh, George Pickens and Ceedee Lamb.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
But like Ryan flinoy.

Speaker 6 (46:42):
Man, he's just he should be able to eat in
the scenarios. Not that I don't necessarily want Jake Ferguson
to get the targets, but in this game they should
be abundant.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
But the outside is going to be wide open.

Speaker 5 (46:54):
I like what you're saying too about first downs, because
that's that's such a fundamental aspect that fans sometimes and
I forget about it sometimes forget about because the first downs.
I mean, look at the way that it was broken
up in the Panthers game, and Isaiah had a great
stat at the post game where the Panthers had twenty
seven first downs, fourteen of them or on the ground

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right on the ground. Dallas had fourteen first downs total
and only one on the ground. You've got to be
able to move the chains, keep your defense off the field.
If the defense is going to play as poorly as
they have, keep them off the field as much as possible.
But you also cannot hinder the success of your offense
because if you're only going to get six possessions in
the football game, you've got to take advantage of the

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majority of those possessions and I'm not talking three. I'm
not talking Brandon Aubrey. I'm talking you gotta find payder
on four or five or six possessions in order to
even have a shot.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
With the way that this defense is playing.

Speaker 5 (47:51):
The way you do that and the way you consistently
win time of possession effectively and still end up with
points is by converting on first downs, playing and simple.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
And quickly to uh.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
To the chat, Robert Rodriguez says, and he was I
think he was addressing Josh Josh about Flinoy. He said,
I feel like CD and Flinoy have the same skill set. No, no,
in the capacity of they both can get you yack.
I agree, Flinoy is more physical than CD as far
as being able to run through tackles.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
CD is more elusive in open space. I think it's
not to say physical.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
It's not to say no, Floy is, but he's more physical, right,
So I would I would not because C is, I
would say, but just not to the level of Flinoy.
I would say that the better comp would be there
might be a little bit of redundancy between Flinoy and Pickens,
because Pickens is physical.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
I can see that, right, So just you know, jumping
in I just don't think they're different receivers.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
They're different receivers, receivers classified pickings as No. No, I'm saying,
if you're going to say there's any amount of redundancy
between Flinoy and any of the top two guys, it's
more Pickens than it is.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
CD City is tough.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
He he proved that last I think he can be physical,
but Flinoy is.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
I think he's any of those two guys. Flinoy feels
more dizzy.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
I feel like he's more turping in this offense than
those Annoy Yeah, he feels more more dozz. He's the
guy that you want to get the ball in his
hands now, Yeah, crisp, but exactly, Radius is so quicker,
He's more, He's faster.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
I want to get in his hands by any means necessary.

Speaker 5 (49:25):
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