November 20, 2025 • 47 mins
Kyle Youmans, Patrik Walker, Isaiah Stanback, and Josh Rodriguez break down how Quinnen William’s presence changes the Cowboys’ defensive plan against Philadelphia’s conservative offense. The crew discusses why making Jalen Hurts play from behind is critical and how Dallas will test the AJ Brown–DeVonta Smith tandem in a heavyweight rematch.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
The following.
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This He's Talking Cowboys training live.
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From the Dallas Cowboys World.
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Course at the Star in Frisco.
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Tag Burgers.
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That's got pig Tis pretixdown.
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And now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez,
and Kyle Yeomans.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
It's a terrific Thursday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by
the Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco, Texas,
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Speaker 6 (01:01):
Welcome your body.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
We've got our whole casting crew ready for you to
rock today with Patrick Nose, Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah stand back,
Cris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeoman's glad you're
with us on this beautiful blowdy rainy, stormy fo Thursday
and Frisco.
Speaker 7 (01:19):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I love it, frisk I sleep like a baby. Did
you do your yard.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
Work before it started raining? Yeah? I did?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Actually, boy, that was not rain, that was something else.
Speaker 7 (01:30):
It's great.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
That was fresh air.
Speaker 7 (01:32):
I love car. I love like halfway waking up whenever
the story gives you. Oh you know what, I mean
like one of those we're just like, oh my god,
but you still sleep soundly. I don't even open my eyes.
I'm just like, oh, man, like nice, that's gonna.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Be rough, dude.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
And what happened overnight was even better because safe and sound,
he just went back to sleep.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
You have the window a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Why my as a homeowner, it hits different too, because one,
you know, there's rain, which you're like, all right, sweet,
but then you're like, oh, but there's also wind, yeah,
all this other stuff that can happen, and it's like, yeah,
maybe it's not the best thing in the world yet.
Last night, my kids have been playing in the backyard
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a ton. They've been like out in the back especially
when my wife's home alone. She'll take them out there
and they'll just run around and they'll ride their little
balance bikes or whatever they got. And so I wake
up at two thirty for the first and the first
one that I hear, I'm like, oh no, I gotta
go grab all their stuff. It's all in the backyard,
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and so I like bust out of bed and I'm
going to the opposite direction. I'm going into the backyard
and I grab every single piece of toy that I
possibly can't, I throw it all under either into the
kitchen or into the patio that we've got back there,
try and clean it up as quickly as possible. And
there's lightning everywhere, Like, am I gonna die for this?
Four dollars lawnmow worth push toy that?
Speaker 6 (03:00):
But gotta get it done.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
So that's a real dad different now that as a
dad were normally I would do exactly what you did.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
Nice.
Speaker 7 (03:09):
It was way better in an apartment when like there's
a tornado warning, You're.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Like, worry it, don't want to see something, dude.
Speaker 7 (03:16):
And now you're in a home, you know what I mean?
One Stilton, Please.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
God, why does the storm when it gets to Josh's subdivision?
Why does it suddenly become lightning? McQueen. Yeah, nice, I heard.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
That, beam man.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
I like that. All right, let's get in to do
a little.
Speaker 7 (03:39):
No. You know, if you if you're if you get
a storm at home, no, you know what.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
To expect today is gonna be like us our Cowboys
coming on. Cowboys Defensive preview versus the Eagles offensive preview.
After Isaiah broke down QB vision yesterday, did a great
job on that.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
My friend, I heard coach Schotenheimer freaking say everything that
I said.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Yeah, it's like you watched the show or something.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
It's like this.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Show watches film and this show was before his press conference.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
It was yeah, I think it just make sure.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I mean, but it does tie into what the family
was asking you yesterday.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
When is you got jo the sam You got a
little extra time on your hands.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Yeah, that side of the building knows nothing of what
I do over your message.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
Really quickly that there are people in the chat already
asking about sounds from the Sideline, and I just want
to address that for people that enjoy sounds from the
Sideline that like to go on Twitter and like where
sounds and they'll tweet at Derek.
Speaker 6 (04:41):
Where the hell is it?
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Hey man, it's already up. Man, it's already up.
Speaker 7 (04:47):
But also like when it's been forty eight hours aggressive,
like give us a little time and like I'm not
even editing it. That's the great Alex Lily, But like,
also give them a second, dude, they're expected, Yeah, they
expected twenty four hours after day like which Tuesday were
sounds Like what are you talking of?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
No time for you?
Speaker 7 (05:09):
I know, it's been twenty four that's just.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Like settle down, buddy. Yeah, foremost, buddy, hold.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Your horses, but it is up though, it's up now.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
Yeah, no, man, sorry, geez, I know it's great. Give
us a second, man, we'll have lives.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I just want to see how far he'd keep going.
Hold on.
Speaker 7 (05:38):
I mean, what if what if we went to your
every day What are those TVs reports?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Buddy?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Oh my god, they go to your lunch break?
Speaker 7 (05:51):
What's wrong with you? Man? I'm gonna tweet at your
boss and ask.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Them those quarterly skimberly exactly?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
All right? It was first and foremost sounds and sidelines
is up. So let's be clear.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
It's up for the sake of Josh.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
And Alex and all involved. Sergeant Sue said, let me
find out y'all slept before dropping sounds?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
God forbid, because I could relate.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah, no doubt. Oh all right.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
News and notes.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Were back on the practice field yesterday on a short
week as they prepare, uh say it again, a short week,
short week, on a short week, as they prepare to
host the defendant champion Philadelphia Eagles. It was a walk
through yesterday. Let me say that again. It was a
walk through yesterday, walk walk not rog not not running,
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no yogging with a soft Yeah, there was a walk
through that'd be said. We had several limited participants. I'll
get to the headliner in a second. Perry On Winfrey
again with a full participant, So he's on track. Had
a good exclusive talk with him yesterday. That article will
dropped this morning at some point, maybe after science Lab Lab.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Coach of that.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, so Jevion Clowney, Dante Fowler, my Leige Hooker, Tyler Smith,
Slomon Thomas, Donovan Wilson's did that.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Yeah, they're all limited participants.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
The great news is no one on the active roster
for the Cowboys missed practice for any reason on yesterday.
So that's the good news. The bad news is not bad.
It's just something to kind of keep an eye on.
Dak Prescott.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yeah, you skipped the name there, Yeah, because you know,
I had the dramatic effect.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Dramatic effect which Josh can appreciate as always, absolutely so,
Donovan Donovan Wilson, Jack Dak Prescott suffered a little bit
of a hip issue against the Raiders. It's described as minor.
Fix your eyeballs described as minor. The quote from Brian
Schottenheimer was it's nothing major.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
I don't like those work.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I don't like them either, was that it's nothing major.
But of course on a short week, they're going to
be extra cautious with him. So today when they are
at practice, things ramp up for what should be a
full practice. You'll probably see Dak Prescott in unlimited capacity.
I do expect him to participate. They say that they're
not looking to really scale him back from anything this week,
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just more so making sure that they help him manage
whatever the hip issue is. But again I'm told it's minor.
He will play against the Philadelphia Eagles and it should
not impede anything.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
Well, like the recording artist Shakira said, hymns don't lie,
So you have to be cautious of that whenever it
comes on the injury report, and understand that they're taking
all these we see.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
If you're going to do the Shakira dance, though Kyle
can do it for us just a little, you're just
moving shoulders all songs not yeah, you know.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
It's not called shoulders don't lie. Things here. Two things
when it comes to this whole conversation about Dak and
him being limited in practice yesterday. One. I hate the
term that Shoddy actually used, which was hip issue. It
was just a hip issue. It's like issue seems a
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little more severe than just like, oh, he was just
banged up, you know, like it just kind of was
one of to say things, an ailing thing, yeah, like
a hip thing. Yeah, just one of those things. The
fact that he said it issue makes me think it
might be like.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Something he was trying to find the word to not
say injury. Yeah, because you say hip injury and Dak
Prescott and people like holy crap. So you can see
him searching for he was trying, so he was like
hip issue, and then when that came out, people like,
holy crap.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
And he's probably like, well, darn it.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
The second thing with it And I told this to
Tommy the Rush yesterday, it kind of felt like the
way that he was trying to hedge the bets in
the middle of that conversation was like a company that's
trying to have trying to urge their stockholders not to sell.
It's like no, no, no, no, everything is fine.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
We're okay, don't sell the stock, hold.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Your stock, it'll be fine. And then of course, like
we'll figure out more today about what the injury report
looks like. I don't love the fact that Dak is
on there with a hip issue.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Though he'll be fine. Yeah, I believe he'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
All the more reason for the offensive line to draw
motivation to keep him cleaning up right against the Philadelphia Eagles.
That's all I'll say, Because if it's I mean, if
he's dealing with a hip issue or a hip thing,
or whatever the case may be, last thing you want
is Jalen Carter landing on that hip, or Jordan Davis
or Jalen Phillips getting his hands on him, especially considering
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guess what you have after the Eagles.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Four days later, that Chiefs team, That Chiefs team four
days later keep Dak Prescott standing up.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
And then you got the Lions maiden Hutch You just
got paid eighty billion dollars to play football? What what's that? Why?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Why did you say, hey, no, koy, Isaiah?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Why why are you being koy?
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Just too far down the road, Kyle? Why is that
this is one game season. I'm not playing in the games.
I'm not in it.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Oh yes you are. No, you have a desk upstairs.
I do have a desk upstairs. But that doesn't mean
I'm playing in the game. I can look down the line.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
And pass freaking Phillips and Bond and these receivers. M
there's no looking past.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
Are you concerned about the hip Isaiah?
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Is that what you're saying? No?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Oh, got it? Seki play something.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Now you give it a shot.
Speaker 8 (11:41):
No do.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
My profile has.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Been shut down. Now your hip injuries come from something else.
It's the sick.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
So yeah, that's that's your news and notes for today.
No actions from the Cowboys yesterday. Everyone participated in some
capacity and the walkthrough on yesterday, so that's good news.
And we go forward to today, which is what's today, Thursday.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I'm losing Thursday.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
Thursday.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
So yeah, we go through to today's practice and let's
see who does does not practice, but Dak Prescott at minimum.
I believe he'll be limited. I don't think you'll see
him as a full participant, but he'll get some reps in.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Good, and they'll be back out in pads and it'll
be more of a full practice. They will be a
full practice. Cool, all right. Today is Thursday, so that
means we are previewing the Cowboys defense is Philadelphia offense
and what they bring to the table. So offense hasn't
been playing at an extremely high level like you would anticipate.
They're still good, don't get at the winning and they're
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still eight and two, So yes, you're right, absolutely, Case
Eagles have averaged the second fewest passing yards per game
one hundred and eighty six yards per game this year.
That's the second fewest in the NFL since twenty twenty four.
Only the Titans have avered fewer over the last two seasons,
and Titans are in a very different situation than what
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the Philadelphia Eagles were in Philadelphia still twenty two and
five has the best win loss record over that entire span.
So just because they can't throw the ball doesn't mean
they can't win games. And that's part of what we
outlined yesterday is a part of the defensive preview. But
when you look at this offense, and Isaiah, I'll start
with you here, where do you see the biggest threat
(13:28):
for Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Across the threat?
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Biggest threat, I mean they're all their entire office is
a threat. They have the personnel to get it done.
I'm on record, I think GMFB by Week four, GMFB Flicks.
I went on there and told everybody they were talking
about their their offense was the scoring points. And we
had a segment where you right on the board, what
is the word that describes you know, their their issues offensively?
(13:54):
And you know, my my comrades on the show were
like so and like they're still winning and I was
like Kevin Batulo and they're like, what are you talking about.
I'm like, he's not He's not good. He's not good
for them, right, he's not killing more. Not a fit,
not a fit, and they're not creative. They're like, oh,
you're tripping, you know, so what if their office they're
going to be fined. I'm like, no, no, their offense
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is not going to be fine, not with this officive coordinator.
And that was a long time ago. Yeah, I mentioned that,
and it has not improved. Twenty eighth in the league
in terms of past productivity. It's not great, not m GB. However,
it doesn't matter because they're still effective. If anything, that
that still kind of scares you a little bit that
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they're that inconsistent in that m'st the word I'm looking for. Vulatile, Yeah,
not even volatile, they're just not productive. In the passing game,
yet they're still eight and two.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
It's kind of scary, right, So it is like what
happens when it clicks? Yeah, it just lets you know
how powerful this team is.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
They are.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
They're they're jugging out of a team.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
You got to punch these guys in the mouth, and
you know you're going to take some some lumps too.
Just we're all gonna come out lumped up, right. It's
just like you just see.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I hope that you will. Yeah, Willy lump bro.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
It's freaking Fraser versus versus form. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
It's somebody right there, just heavyweight, just hammering each exactly.
They're they're Saquon Barkley scares me the most, of course.
Suon scares me the most out of everybody, just because
even when you feel like you have him stopped, you don't.
He He is just electric in that regard. He can
hurt you in the running game. He can hurts you
in the passing game, interior run, exterior run. He's just
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he's just a beast. He is what he is. He's
the best runner back in the league, hands down.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
Passing game.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
They're a threat, not as not as scared of them
in the passing game.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Are are Amante Smith more than anybody scares me.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
A J.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Brown does not scare me. Really, I respect A J.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Brown. You have to, you have to, you have to
respect him.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
I think that you can get in his head. I
think that.
Speaker 7 (15:59):
He's his own team is not.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Yeah, as much as he struggles, as much as he
is a physical specimen, he struggles with the light of scrimmage.
So you can go get the hands on him. Some
of our defensive backs have been doing a good job
of that lately, even our our new addition No No
R and B group but Revel. I'm looking forward to
seeing him get at the line of scrimmage and put
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some hands on him, because I think A. J. Brown
gets flustered when when you when you are in his
hip pocket like that and physical, you know, match his
physical inness at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
He's not as physical as everybody thinks he is.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
He puts off this person.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
No, he puts off this persona like he's just big
bad Wolf's He's really not. So you can go in
there and you can disrupt him at the line of scrimmage.
Demonte Smith's the guy that you have to keep an
eye on because he can. It's a splash part, it's
a splash play. He might only have three catches, but hold.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
On, hold on, he goes Devonte Smith. You said Kaylin Carson.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
The reason I say this is because I'm looking forward
to seeing what Carson can do, if he can do.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
It, just want to make sure.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, I wasn't.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
I'm not saying that I've got a long way to
go to get to that point.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
I'm saying I'm excited to see this test.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
That's Kayling Carson, not implying that Carson's got to shut down,
because if that were the.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
Case, I wanted to double check there.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I just needed to throw on the brakes first second clarify.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
If that were my intent, I would have said deron,
which he's at least. But yeah, I'm talking in the
reference in the regard of I want to see Kayln
Carson get tested to this capacity because I love what
he did last week, but that that's not a Heisman winner.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
He's had two really solid.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Outing so I'm ready for this test for them. That's
what I mean when I say that.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Okay, also a great article on Kailn Carson that's up
ondask cowys dot com right now.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Thank you who wrote that on the Doctor Walkers Cool,
it's up on the dot com that guy appreciated. Check
that out as an exclusive talk that I had with
Kaylyn Carson, and we'll talk about it here before the
show is out. But the numbers that he was able
to produce against the Raiders quite promising.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
And basically calling himself back into a starting role amazing,
like what he's been able to do.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Okay, since we're talking about him, yeah, please, I mean,
if we're talking, then let's talk about it. So before
I was watching film, of course, because that's what we do,
talking cowboys. And then it was time for locker room
availability and one of the guys I pulled to the
side was Cavin Carson, just to kind of get his
mindset on climbing back. He said, quote unquote, I feel
like I'm back. He talked about feeling confident now, talked
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about how he's no longer thinking and you saw that,
you know when on that PBu where he broke them
to the ball and he jarred it loose with the tackle.
Tackling is there. The shoulder is great, and he's feeling great.
He feels great, So that's promising. Now let's talk about
some numbers real quick. Kevin Carson against the Raiders, he
showed that he could do it in both capacities. He
could do it in man coverage, which we felt that
he could because that was one of his green flags
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coming out of Wake Force, but he's also showing he
can do it in zone coverage. So on man coverage
he was targeted nine times, he allowed only one catch
for only eighteen yards, no tuddies. In zone coverage he
was targeted five times, allowed only three catches for only
thirty seven yards, no touddies, no chunk plays. Then, of course,
he had the red zone PPU against none other than
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Brock Boers to keep that from being a touchdown for
Gino Smith and the Raiders at a critical part of
the game. I say all this to say, and I'll
state this again, there is a massive test coming up
this week for Kayln Carson.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Massive.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
But I also feel confident that while Davante, I think
Davante will get a chunk play or two.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
It's just I mean, he's just that. Yeah, that's freaking good.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
If Jalen Hurts can get him the ball which is
a different conversation. Right, then Davante can make the play.
But I do think you will see Kayln Carson when
he's matched up against DeVante Smith. I think he'll win.
He'll win some of those reps. And that's what I'm
excited to see. I want to see if this confidence
that he's now building, this groove that he's getting into,
is going to translate against a contender. Because if it
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can and Revel can get hands on and flush aj Brown,
then my question is what does this linebacker group look
like d mow and Logan and Raddy Stewart darn Bland
when it comes to inside coverage on Dallas Goddard. Yeah,
because the Cowboys did an excellent job of shutting down
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sa Kwon Barkley in Week one without Quinn Williams, Okay,
without Savonne Revel, without Kaylin Carson, So they were able
to do these things. They only held them to sixty
yards rushing one touchdown, and they could have won that
game if not for the infamous drops. Right, I think
that they can contain Sakwon Barkley, even more so with
Quinn Williams on the field. So for me, now you're
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talking about Dallas Goddard. My eyes just keep going back
to Dallas godd That's gonna be the person I believe is.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Going to dictate that game, this game for the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I want to talk a little bit more about that,
but I also want to go to the second segment here,
and then of course we have lab code coming up. Yeah,
with third segment a little bit later on. Want to
leave plenty of time for that. More of the Cowboys
defense preview going up against the Philadelphia offense when we
come back right after this.
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How's it going You see that Cowboys game?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I watched.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I've been seeing some good things totally. They have some talent,
you have some great talent, and they got some fight.
Hoping this is the year me too. Oh I'm Cody.
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of the Dallas defense taking on the Philadelphia offense. And
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Isaiah you talked a little bit about I.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Forgot I gotta tost his news and oh yes, please
please for got a news And note dumone Clark. He
was claimed yesterday by none other than Demico Ryan's and
Demico Ryan and the Houston Texans.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
So I'd love to see that for dark Oonne.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Just a fantastic human being who did all he could
to kind of clause way into the good graces of
Mike Zimmer and Matt eber Fluis was unable to do so,
but still very early in his career. And that's just
a fantastic landing spot for him, and he gets to
stay in Texas, not far from home. So Demon Clark
and I spoke with him yesterday after he was claimed,
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and he's in just excellent spirits at you know, the
potential for what comes next for him in Houston. So
De Moon Clark to the Texans, nice good, good stuff,
shouts out to Allen's thanks for reminded me.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Yeah, there you go. So that best of luck, damone.
Hope you have some success down there in h Town.
All right. Uh. Continuing the preview, Isaiah brought up yesterday
Jake Ferguson and how much he could play an impact
in this game. Patrick just said, Dallas Goddard is going
to play a big impact in this game. Josh, I'll
look at you now. Yeah, tight ends are obviously going
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to be a big part of this whole thing. Whenever
there are so many weapons on the outside, though, should
they be the featured part of either one of these offenses,
especially talking about Philly, Oh absolutely.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
I mean the fact that I mean Isaiah alluded to
Kevin Patullo and sort of the uncreativity that he has
for their offense trash, I mean the personnel is there.
There's no doubt about person they just want. The super
personnel is there. They haven't lost a lot of guys.
It's their offensive line for me, that has taken a
step back. But in terms of the offensive line is
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taking a step back, they're not who they were last year.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
No, they're banged up too, though.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
They're banged up, and just the even before the performance
isn't there. I mean, if you in terms of Saquon Barkley,
and not to get away from the passing side of things,
but he's rushing at a full one yard less per
contact this year over last year prior to content, prior
to contact. Yeah, big, that's huge for Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
And we talked about last week with JENTI.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
Absolutely the numbers haven't been there for him necessarily.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Do you know where they're week at on their offensive line?
Where are they three interior offensive linemen?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Really?
Speaker 7 (25:40):
Waitit wait, do we have really good interior defensive linemen?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Cowboys? Really?
Speaker 6 (25:45):
Now we're the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
That doesn't happen. I think, what is that?
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Shakira?
Speaker 7 (25:51):
No, that's not secure, but at least for me, the
secret weapon that they have and honestly, he's playing relatively
well compared to all of the flak that the Eagles
offense gets. Is Jalen Hurts. I really think that he's
honed what he does as a quarterback in that he
doesn't make the mistakes. He doesn't want to throw tight
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window throws.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
He doesn't want to throw.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
He doesn't want to throw. But in terms of his
rankings among the top qbs in the NFL, he ranks
number five and deep ball completion percentage, number one in
pressured completion percentage, number four in completion percentage versus man,
and a number three passer rating versus man at one
twenty seven point two. He's an efficient passer when he
(26:39):
decides to pass, and he is not above taking a
drive and saying like we'll live to see another drive.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, he's very patient.
Speaker 7 (26:48):
He's extremely patient. Wisdom a dream quarterback for Bill Belichick type,
you know what I mean, Because he's not going to
make the mistake. That's what Jalen.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Hurts game is. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
So if he's going up against an offense that is
on all cylinders, that's what I'm talking about. The Dallas
Cows have to be perfect on offense. Yeah, they have
to annihilate Phillies defense each avia because if what you
want is Jalen Hurts playing from behind, you do that's
what you want. You don't want him to control the game,
to be the bus driver, because that's what he does.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Best, and he doesn't. He doesn't turn the football over,
he doesn't put the ball in harm's way. And so
if you're able to push him into pressure situations, you're
able to continuously make him throw the football play from behind,
then those mistakes can start to pop up. Right now,
Jalen Hurts has one hundred and fifty six consecutive passes
under pressure without an interception. So even when there's pressure,
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physical pressure, they're not putting the ball in harm's way
and they're dumping it off underneath, they're hitting those shallow
crossing they're just continuously working the ball methodically down the field.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
Where if you're able to put.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Them in a situation where they're down a touchdown, down
two touchdowns, and your offense is doing what they do best,
which is put up points, then all of a sudden,
their offense gets completely out of whack because they anticipate
their defense just setting the tongue. That's what they rely
that's where they start it all and that's where they
want to finish it all.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
Like they don't mind punting when they absolutely needs it,
like all right, sure if it's on fourth and one,
I'm going to get the ball back like it's fine, exactly.
They have so much confidence in their defense, and that's
I think the Achilles heel, Like you have to attack
their defense.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
You know what's going to be interesting to watch though.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
And first of all, let's see if the officials officiated
the way it should be done.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
You're starting, oh yeah, you know what I mean, probably
just not getting third and shorts.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I agree with that in the event that you do,
which eventually you will, because I mean you're never going
to go sixty minutes of football and not be in
a third and short situation. I mean, it's it's just
going to happen, right, because mistakes happen, they.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Will not be in a third and one situation all
game all.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Are you saying that with your chase? I would love,
But that means you got to speak up.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
We're not going to see it.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah I didn't say that. He said one, not a
single time. Will you being third one? I would love
for that to beat.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
No third ones? First driving, no third one, no third ones.
I'm with it.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
I don't know how that happened.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
But what what makes your game is gonna be different
than what people believe. What makes you say that they're
struggling on an interior office of line, they're really struggling.
If you go back and watch the Detroit game that
the interior d linemen which are not like.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
That's not their strong suits not and the lane Johnson's hurt.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Okay, So I mean, so they're there there, their their
wing is is injured, and then their freaking cabin is
all busted upright, you know, I'm saying the glasses.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Their freaking windshield is cracked.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
I mean, it's whatever wants to come through that windshield
is coming through that windshield. And we just happen to
have arguably the best Tannement interior defensive line in the
league next to Philly.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
So here's what's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Hold on, were those two separate metaphors very much a
wing and there playing is jacked? Oh so it's a
plane now it's not it's the wing.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Okay, I did that, But I don't know what you
want me.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
So the wing is all is Jack, John, don't do this.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I don't want to go go gadget so I don't
know the wing is Jack the way he's you might want.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
I'm thinking about mad here.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
That's what my visual.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
So in the interior office line, it's not good. I'm
just telling I agree.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
So I really think that you. I think that Dallas
is gonna truly disrupt what they're doing. And I'm asking,
I'm pleading that that coach Eberflus allows these cornerbacks to
go up and press like play a J.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Brown. Man a man?
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Can you can you look at your camera and give
mattiberfl coach, dude.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Please allow your interior office of lineman, defensive lineman to
go him press up on a J.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Brown. Go put your most physical defensive back on a J. Brown.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Sit on the inside pocket because he can't outrun your
your dbs.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
He can't.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
He doesn't have to go juice any Sit on the
inside hip, jam him up at the line of scrimmage,
yap to him. Double Davonte Smith and make sure that
your linebackers get get jams on.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Goddard. That's what I'm asking.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Make it hard for goddr to get off the line
of scrimmage, sit on the inside hip of AJ Brown.
Freaking I Honda go make these guys play sho make
them play street fighter for the remainder of the week. Okay,
get him in the corner and up. He can't run
over the top, all right, And I guarantee you that
you will have two turnovers via the air if you
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do that, because there's gonna become a point in time.
If you can stop Sakwan Barkby from running the ball
what you did last time, and you're gonna do a
better job this time. Arguably, then he's gonna then Hurts
is gonna have no choice but to put the ball up.
And if Devontae Smith is doubled up, he can't go
over there, and he's gonna try to force it the
AJ Brown, him and A J. Brown are not in sync. Okay,
they're not in sync. They're not an R and B
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group and they're not a bluetooth that you can't do it.
So let him throw all over the top pick a.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
Ball doing that.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Here's here's the thing, like it's it's really not like
Kevin Patulo's schemes are trash. Players are not. Schemes are trash,
are predictable. You can disrupt everything that they're doing by
literally going up there, play play a j man the
man like there. They would be appalled that you're doing it.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Prove me wrong, prove me wrong.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
See, you just kind of made my point as far
as number one, I want everything you said to come true.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Sounds great.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Matter of fact, let me just say it in my
full blown Southern I want every damn thing you said
come true, Isaiah.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Start a fight.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Just sounds like I said, you.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Just said something that's This is what makes it difficult
for me to fathom going against a team with this
much talent, regardless of how trash their coordinator is, which
I agree, somebody's going to get nine yards on a
second and ten and that's how you get third and one.
So when the third and one had happens, which I
(33:00):
hope never does, when it happens to push versus Quinn
Williams and Kinny Cork.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
I love the Savannah ax, so it still works.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
I mean, but oh, that wasn't Savannah accent. You know,
that was more normal talk.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
That was more Yeah, you're you're more talking like your
regular talking voice still has like tweaks of Savannah in there.
And then but then when you tried to go more southern,
you sounded like uh Brian Kelly and the press conference
and he took the LSU job. My family a like, dude,
shut up, dude, you're from Indiana from Lord.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
Oh dude, it's terrible. Have you watched that video? It's
awful Brian Kelly.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Shit, But yeah, is much much different if I let
that Loos, just like the Atlanta accident is. If I
let that, lucy 'all won't understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
Don't let me get a little up in here, Lobos.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
No.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
I want everything Isaiah said to come true. I do.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
But in the event the the toush push comes into play,
I want the officials to officiate it how they need
to do your jobs. That's what you're getting paid to do.
And I would love to see it versus Quinn Williams,
because Quinn Williams was asked about it and he's not
going up against the touch push before.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
So I want to see all touch bushes. It's a
rugby place, so I mean, it's it's very difficult to stop.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
So I'm not even more when you're letting them get
off the ball before it starts for now.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
So I'm less concerned about that because I don't think
third one is gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Now.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
You might get down the goal line and it happens, but.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
I don't whatever, touch pushes, touch push, you find yourself
in that situation, you're probably screwed. But I don't forcee either.
I don't think there might. I'm obviously standing up on
a big old mountain by myself. But yeah, no third ones.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
I like it. Brian Kelly's also from Massachusetts, by the way,
so still very much.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
So, even less of a likelihood than he would have
have that it's more Indiana would have.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
I'm going to show you this video and this in
the break here in a second, but we're gonna we
got to take our break because we got to have
time for lab code need segment.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
Pat, what do we got coming up?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Since we're talking about the offense of the Philadelphia Eagles
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And beamur yes, science.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Yeah, lab coat. Here we go, labcoat with a k
If you're nasty, I know you are. We're gonna talk
about really quickly. We all know that Quinn Williams played
extremely well in his debut, Yes he did. And looking
at the film and then looking at the advanced statistics
on next Gen Stats and tell you exactly how well
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he played, and then I'll tell you how others fed
off of that. First and foremost of one thing that
jumped up off of the film for me was his
get off. Okay, so I was curious for a man
that's over three hundred pounds, who can't who can fire
off the snap that quickly? I wanted to see who
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else had had a get off time that was that elite.
Max Crosby's was one point one zero seconds on average
on thirty pass rushes.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
What is earth on?
Speaker 1 (40:24):
I'm standing here?
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Quinn Williams was one point zero eight seconds on only
two fewer pass rushes. So the numbers are directly comparable
because they almost had the same number of pass rushes.
And Quinn Williams was getting off the ball quicker than
Max Crosby.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
That is absolutely insane. For a guy that's.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Fifty forty pounds forty fifty pounds heavier than Max Crosby,
what did that allow him to do?
Speaker 1 (40:47):
That allowed him to.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
That allowed him to get a quarterback pressure over expectation
of plus eight percent. That was the highest of any
Cowboys player in that game.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
I like those words.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
This was his his debut, this was his first time
playing in the Cowboys uniform. With this playbook in Matt
eber Flus and Quinn Williams had the highest quarterback the
over expectation of any Cowboys player. Here's what's even better.
Now we know that, we know he's gonna draw double teams.
Those double teams are going to allow other guys to
(41:19):
have straight up matchups, right, But then what is Quinn
Williams doing with these double teams. He was plus three
percent roughly when double team as hard as his success
rate is concerned.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
So he's winning when you throw two guys at him.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
So that also goes to just how unstoppable Quinn Williams
was and good got off is just as good when.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
You got two guys them.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Okay, oh, now some fans are going to say, oh, well, no,
see it was against the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
You're right, but.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
We're also talking about Quinn Williams. It's not as if
he's not been dominated against some of the best teams
no matter who you're playing, and your get off as
you get off, you get off as you get off.
But as far as the success rates and the pressure
nifectation and things like that, my point is you you
can't this is one player. You can't you what was
the Raiders to color the impact that he had. Because
he's been so great over the course of his young
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career against so many good teams.
Speaker 7 (42:17):
He's proven it. As we have a question.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
I just want to add value to what you're providing
science that you're dropping on lap code segment. People need
to understand that. Coming prior to coming to the Dallas Cowboys,
Quinn Williams was primarily a three technique. Primarily a three technique.
When you go back and look at all his Jets film,
he played three technique. Do you know what he played
when he was here? What's that his first game? What's
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that one?
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Yeah? Play nose one tech.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
Nos, Kenny Clark got moved out to the three technique.
For those that don't understand, you start to count with
zero over the center and you move gradually move out
from the outside shutter. You go one, two, three, Okay,
all right, So the the even numbers are head up
on officeive lineman. Zero's head up over the center, two's
head up over the guard. Okay, Three would be the
outside shade of the guard. So Kenny Clark got moved
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out to Quinn and williams normal position, and Quinn Williams
came to the one technique, meaning that he was lined
up in the gap between the center and the guard.
So these statistics that my man over here is stating
were literally against two people almost every time.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Now, let me piggyback off ohead, sir, because you mentioned
Kenny Clark. So let's talk about double teams and how
it works. So how many times was Quinn Williams double
team fourteen times? Okay, so he drew double teams fourteen times,
Kenny Clark, and he drew five dropbacks or something like that,
twenty eight dropbacks, twenty eight Kenny Klark. Kenny Clark, he
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had thirty two dropbacks. He drew a double team thirteen times,
and he had a plus two percent success rate. So
your two interior defensive linemen are doing what they're supposed
to do and drawing the double teams to free up
your edges, but they're also still effective against those double teams.
Didn't now say that over the last time you did?
Speaker 7 (44:03):
You did?
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Interesting you did.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Now let's parlay this to the defensive end spot with
those two.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
Guys on talking cowboys, right, with those two guys of
taking up that those types of assignments.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
You have James Houston, who was double team a few
of the four times. Dante followed double teamed zero number
of times. Donovan Zraku was double teamed zero number of times.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
David clown zero Spanish.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yes, Jevon Clowney was double team there. Who knows once
your defensive ends now I know, yeah, I know your
defensive ends now are seeing one v ones.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
So again, to.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Put this in perspective as far as going up against
a an Eagles offensive line that has taken a huge
step back that I not have, Lane John got to
just making sure you're seeing across the board effectiveness because
it's not simply Quinn Williams, but he is absolutely a problem.
But Kenny Clark next to him and then mixing osa
(45:12):
Osa had six pressures on thirty two rushes almost nineteen percent.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
He drew fourteen double teams.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
Still got his sack, still had three quarterback kids six
percent plus six percent win double team plus six percent
success rate, higher than even Quinning, higher than Kenny Clark.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Now, you just need this to translate and it can
again against the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line that just has
not been world.
Speaker 7 (45:39):
So he definitely had to trade for an edge rusher.
Speaker 4 (45:40):
Right, I'm really glad we talked Isaiah into wanting a
defensive tackle. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
I just want to raise my hand so that I
can have Josh talk.
Speaker 7 (45:49):
I mean we definitely had to trade for an edge rusher, right, Yeah,
that was necessary. We needed to do that. That was
the spot.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Why is this You gotta suck me both the go
ahead and run, just go ahead and run.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
The sound brother, go ahead and running.
Speaker 6 (46:06):
Oh jeez, I'm glad.
Speaker 4 (46:10):
I'm glad.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Yeah, oh brother, this guy sticks, also shouts out to
the chest. Y'all got me cracking up. Yes, I'll spend
a few hours studying the guy's get off.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Yes you did get off.
Speaker 5 (46:24):
Time was against two guys, against two guys, against three guys.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Get off with the guys, get off, double teams, getting off.
Speaker 5 (46:30):
The best get off of his life. Yeah, he had
the best game of his life. Good thing, best performance
he's ever had. Good thing he wore the white pants,
best performance ever had. Kyle, I think that's I think. Yeah,
we gotta get we gotta get to the more shoulders.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (46:48):
We're cutting it off. It's time to go home. It's
time to keep going. Say it with your chest Friday tomorrow.
If this wasn't saying it with your chest, and I
don't know what would be.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
We appreciate you guys ready watching.
Speaker 6 (47:01):
Yeah, we've got to get you popcorn ready.
Speaker 4 (47:02):
We're gonna wear our family hoodies tomorrow. Tomorrow, it's just Friday. Dude.
You look like the farnh for Patrick No seawalker for
Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah stand back. I'm Chris Bean. We'll see
you tomorrow with more talking cowboys. Oh man, that's hilarious.
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And now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez,
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Speaker 6 (01:01):
Welcome your body.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
We've got our whole casting crew ready for you to
rock today with Patrick Nose, Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah stand back,
Cris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeoman's glad you're
with us on this beautiful blowdy rainy, stormy fo Thursday
and Frisco.
Speaker 7 (01:19):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I love it, frisk I sleep like a baby. Did
you do your yard.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
Work before it started raining? Yeah? I did?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Actually, boy, that was not rain, that was something else.
Speaker 7 (01:30):
It's great.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
That was fresh air.
Speaker 7 (01:32):
I love car. I love like halfway waking up whenever
the story gives you. Oh you know what, I mean
like one of those we're just like, oh my god,
but you still sleep soundly. I don't even open my eyes.
I'm just like, oh, man, like nice, that's gonna.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Be rough, dude.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
And what happened overnight was even better because safe and sound,
he just went back to sleep.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
You have the window a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Why my as a homeowner, it hits different too, because one,
you know, there's rain, which you're like, all right, sweet,
but then you're like, oh, but there's also wind, yeah,
all this other stuff that can happen, and it's like, yeah,
maybe it's not the best thing in the world yet.
Last night, my kids have been playing in the backyard
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a ton. They've been like out in the back especially
when my wife's home alone. She'll take them out there
and they'll just run around and they'll ride their little
balance bikes or whatever they got. And so I wake
up at two thirty for the first and the first
one that I hear, I'm like, oh no, I gotta
go grab all their stuff. It's all in the backyard,
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and so I like bust out of bed and I'm
going to the opposite direction. I'm going into the backyard
and I grab every single piece of toy that I
possibly can't, I throw it all under either into the
kitchen or into the patio that we've got back there,
try and clean it up as quickly as possible. And
there's lightning everywhere, Like, am I gonna die for this?
Four dollars lawnmow worth push toy that?
Speaker 6 (03:00):
But gotta get it done.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
So that's a real dad different now that as a
dad were normally I would do exactly what you did.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
Nice.
Speaker 7 (03:09):
It was way better in an apartment when like there's
a tornado warning, You're.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Like, worry it, don't want to see something, dude.
Speaker 7 (03:16):
And now you're in a home, you know what I mean?
One Stilton, Please.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
God, why does the storm when it gets to Josh's subdivision?
Why does it suddenly become lightning? McQueen. Yeah, nice, I heard.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
That, beam man.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
I like that. All right, let's get in to do
a little.
Speaker 7 (03:39):
No. You know, if you if you're if you get
a storm at home, no, you know what.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
To expect today is gonna be like us our Cowboys
coming on. Cowboys Defensive preview versus the Eagles offensive preview.
After Isaiah broke down QB vision yesterday, did a great
job on that.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
My friend, I heard coach Schotenheimer freaking say everything that
I said.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Yeah, it's like you watched the show or something.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
It's like this.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Show watches film and this show was before his press conference.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
It was yeah, I think it just make sure.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I mean, but it does tie into what the family
was asking you yesterday.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
When is you got jo the sam You got a
little extra time on your hands.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Yeah, that side of the building knows nothing of what
I do over your message.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
Really quickly that there are people in the chat already
asking about sounds from the Sideline, and I just want
to address that for people that enjoy sounds from the
Sideline that like to go on Twitter and like where
sounds and they'll tweet at Derek.
Speaker 6 (04:41):
Where the hell is it?
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Hey man, it's already up. Man, it's already up.
Speaker 7 (04:47):
But also like when it's been forty eight hours aggressive,
like give us a little time and like I'm not
even editing it. That's the great Alex Lily, But like,
also give them a second, dude, they're expected, Yeah, they
expected twenty four hours after day like which Tuesday were
sounds Like what are you talking of?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
No time for you?
Speaker 7 (05:09):
I know, it's been twenty four that's just.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Like settle down, buddy. Yeah, foremost, buddy, hold.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Your horses, but it is up though, it's up now.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
Yeah, no, man, sorry, geez, I know it's great. Give
us a second, man, we'll have lives.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I just want to see how far he'd keep going.
Hold on.
Speaker 7 (05:38):
I mean, what if what if we went to your
every day What are those TVs reports?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Buddy?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Oh my god, they go to your lunch break?
Speaker 7 (05:51):
What's wrong with you? Man? I'm gonna tweet at your
boss and ask.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Them those quarterly skimberly exactly?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
All right? It was first and foremost sounds and sidelines
is up. So let's be clear.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
It's up for the sake of Josh.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
And Alex and all involved. Sergeant Sue said, let me
find out y'all slept before dropping sounds?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
God forbid, because I could relate.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah, no doubt. Oh all right.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
News and notes.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Were back on the practice field yesterday on a short
week as they prepare, uh say it again, a short week,
short week, on a short week, as they prepare to
host the defendant champion Philadelphia Eagles. It was a walk
through yesterday. Let me say that again. It was a
walk through yesterday, walk walk not rog not not running,
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no yogging with a soft Yeah, there was a walk
through that'd be said. We had several limited participants. I'll
get to the headliner in a second. Perry On Winfrey
again with a full participant, So he's on track. Had
a good exclusive talk with him yesterday. That article will
dropped this morning at some point, maybe after science Lab Lab.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Coach of that.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, so Jevion Clowney, Dante Fowler, my Leige Hooker, Tyler Smith,
Slomon Thomas, Donovan Wilson's did that.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Yeah, they're all limited participants.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
The great news is no one on the active roster
for the Cowboys missed practice for any reason on yesterday.
So that's the good news. The bad news is not bad.
It's just something to kind of keep an eye on.
Dak Prescott.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yeah, you skipped the name there, Yeah, because you know,
I had the dramatic effect.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Dramatic effect which Josh can appreciate as always, absolutely so,
Donovan Donovan Wilson, Jack Dak Prescott suffered a little bit
of a hip issue against the Raiders. It's described as minor.
Fix your eyeballs described as minor. The quote from Brian
Schottenheimer was it's nothing major.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
I don't like those work.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I don't like them either, was that it's nothing major.
But of course on a short week, they're going to
be extra cautious with him. So today when they are
at practice, things ramp up for what should be a
full practice. You'll probably see Dak Prescott in unlimited capacity.
I do expect him to participate. They say that they're
not looking to really scale him back from anything this week,
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just more so making sure that they help him manage
whatever the hip issue is. But again I'm told it's minor.
He will play against the Philadelphia Eagles and it should
not impede anything.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
Well, like the recording artist Shakira said, hymns don't lie,
So you have to be cautious of that whenever it
comes on the injury report, and understand that they're taking
all these we see.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
If you're going to do the Shakira dance, though Kyle
can do it for us just a little, you're just
moving shoulders all songs not yeah, you know.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
It's not called shoulders don't lie. Things here. Two things
when it comes to this whole conversation about Dak and
him being limited in practice yesterday. One. I hate the
term that Shoddy actually used, which was hip issue. It
was just a hip issue. It's like issue seems a
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little more severe than just like, oh, he was just
banged up, you know, like it just kind of was
one of to say things, an ailing thing, yeah, like
a hip thing. Yeah, just one of those things. The
fact that he said it issue makes me think it
might be like.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Something he was trying to find the word to not
say injury. Yeah, because you say hip injury and Dak
Prescott and people like holy crap. So you can see
him searching for he was trying, so he was like
hip issue, and then when that came out, people like,
holy crap.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
And he's probably like, well, darn it.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
The second thing with it And I told this to
Tommy the Rush yesterday, it kind of felt like the
way that he was trying to hedge the bets in
the middle of that conversation was like a company that's
trying to have trying to urge their stockholders not to sell.
It's like no, no, no, no, everything is fine.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
We're okay, don't sell the stock, hold.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Your stock, it'll be fine. And then of course, like
we'll figure out more today about what the injury report
looks like. I don't love the fact that Dak is
on there with a hip issue.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Though he'll be fine. Yeah, I believe he'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
All the more reason for the offensive line to draw
motivation to keep him cleaning up right against the Philadelphia Eagles.
That's all I'll say, Because if it's I mean, if
he's dealing with a hip issue or a hip thing,
or whatever the case may be, last thing you want
is Jalen Carter landing on that hip, or Jordan Davis
or Jalen Phillips getting his hands on him, especially considering
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guess what you have after the Eagles.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Four days later, that Chiefs team, That Chiefs team four
days later keep Dak Prescott standing up.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
And then you got the Lions maiden Hutch You just
got paid eighty billion dollars to play football? What what's that? Why?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Why did you say, hey, no, koy, Isaiah?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Why why are you being koy?
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Just too far down the road, Kyle? Why is that
this is one game season. I'm not playing in the games.
I'm not in it.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Oh yes you are. No, you have a desk upstairs.
I do have a desk upstairs. But that doesn't mean
I'm playing in the game. I can look down the line.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
And pass freaking Phillips and Bond and these receivers. M
there's no looking past.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
Are you concerned about the hip Isaiah?
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Is that what you're saying? No?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Oh, got it? Seki play something.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Now you give it a shot.
Speaker 8 (11:41):
No do.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
My profile has.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Been shut down. Now your hip injuries come from something else.
It's the sick.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
So yeah, that's that's your news and notes for today.
No actions from the Cowboys yesterday. Everyone participated in some
capacity and the walkthrough on yesterday, so that's good news.
And we go forward to today, which is what's today, Thursday.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I'm losing Thursday.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
Thursday.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
So yeah, we go through to today's practice and let's
see who does does not practice, but Dak Prescott at minimum.
I believe he'll be limited. I don't think you'll see
him as a full participant, but he'll get some reps in.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Good, and they'll be back out in pads and it'll
be more of a full practice. They will be a
full practice. Cool, all right. Today is Thursday, so that
means we are previewing the Cowboys defense is Philadelphia offense
and what they bring to the table. So offense hasn't
been playing at an extremely high level like you would anticipate.
They're still good, don't get at the winning and they're
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still eight and two, So yes, you're right, absolutely, Case
Eagles have averaged the second fewest passing yards per game
one hundred and eighty six yards per game this year.
That's the second fewest in the NFL since twenty twenty four.
Only the Titans have avered fewer over the last two seasons,
and Titans are in a very different situation than what
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the Philadelphia Eagles were in Philadelphia still twenty two and
five has the best win loss record over that entire span.
So just because they can't throw the ball doesn't mean
they can't win games. And that's part of what we
outlined yesterday is a part of the defensive preview. But
when you look at this offense, and Isaiah, I'll start
with you here, where do you see the biggest threat
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for Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Across the threat?
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Biggest threat, I mean they're all their entire office is
a threat. They have the personnel to get it done.
I'm on record, I think GMFB by Week four, GMFB Flicks.
I went on there and told everybody they were talking
about their their offense was the scoring points. And we
had a segment where you right on the board, what
is the word that describes you know, their their issues offensively?
(13:54):
And you know, my my comrades on the show were
like so and like they're still winning and I was
like Kevin Batulo and they're like, what are you talking about.
I'm like, he's not He's not good. He's not good
for them, right, he's not killing more. Not a fit,
not a fit, and they're not creative. They're like, oh,
you're tripping, you know, so what if their office they're
going to be fined. I'm like, no, no, their offense
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is not going to be fine, not with this officive coordinator.
And that was a long time ago. Yeah, I mentioned that,
and it has not improved. Twenty eighth in the league
in terms of past productivity. It's not great, not m GB. However,
it doesn't matter because they're still effective. If anything, that
that still kind of scares you a little bit that
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they're that inconsistent in that m'st the word I'm looking for. Vulatile, Yeah,
not even volatile, they're just not productive. In the passing game,
yet they're still eight and two.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
It's kind of scary, right, So it is like what
happens when it clicks? Yeah, it just lets you know
how powerful this team is.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
They are.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
They're they're jugging out of a team.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
You got to punch these guys in the mouth, and
you know you're going to take some some lumps too.
Just we're all gonna come out lumped up, right. It's
just like you just see.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I hope that you will. Yeah, Willy lump bro.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
It's freaking Fraser versus versus form. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
It's somebody right there, just heavyweight, just hammering each exactly.
They're they're Saquon Barkley scares me the most, of course.
Suon scares me the most out of everybody, just because
even when you feel like you have him stopped, you don't.
He He is just electric in that regard. He can
hurt you in the running game. He can hurts you
in the passing game, interior run, exterior run. He's just
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he's just a beast. He is what he is. He's
the best runner back in the league, hands down.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
Passing game.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
They're a threat, not as not as scared of them
in the passing game.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Are are Amante Smith more than anybody scares me.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
A J.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Brown does not scare me. Really, I respect A J.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Brown. You have to, you have to, you have to
respect him.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
I think that you can get in his head. I
think that.
Speaker 7 (15:59):
He's his own team is not.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Yeah, as much as he struggles, as much as he
is a physical specimen, he struggles with the light of scrimmage.
So you can go get the hands on him. Some
of our defensive backs have been doing a good job
of that lately, even our our new addition No No
R and B group but Revel. I'm looking forward to
seeing him get at the line of scrimmage and put
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some hands on him, because I think A. J. Brown
gets flustered when when you when you are in his
hip pocket like that and physical, you know, match his
physical inness at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
He's not as physical as everybody thinks he is.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
He puts off this person.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
No, he puts off this persona like he's just big
bad Wolf's He's really not. So you can go in
there and you can disrupt him at the line of scrimmage.
Demonte Smith's the guy that you have to keep an
eye on because he can. It's a splash part, it's
a splash play. He might only have three catches, but hold.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
On, hold on, he goes Devonte Smith. You said Kaylin Carson.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
The reason I say this is because I'm looking forward
to seeing what Carson can do, if he can do.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
It, just want to make sure.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, I wasn't.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
I'm not saying that I've got a long way to
go to get to that point.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
I'm saying I'm excited to see this test.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
That's Kayling Carson, not implying that Carson's got to shut down,
because if that were the.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
Case, I wanted to double check there.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I just needed to throw on the brakes first second clarify.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
If that were my intent, I would have said deron,
which he's at least. But yeah, I'm talking in the
reference in the regard of I want to see Kayln
Carson get tested to this capacity because I love what
he did last week, but that that's not a Heisman winner.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
He's had two really solid.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Outing so I'm ready for this test for them. That's
what I mean when I say that.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Okay, also a great article on Kailn Carson that's up
ondask cowys dot com right now.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Thank you who wrote that on the Doctor Walkers Cool,
it's up on the dot com that guy appreciated. Check
that out as an exclusive talk that I had with
Kaylyn Carson, and we'll talk about it here before the
show is out. But the numbers that he was able
to produce against the Raiders quite promising.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
And basically calling himself back into a starting role amazing,
like what he's been able to do.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Okay, since we're talking about him, yeah, please, I mean,
if we're talking, then let's talk about it. So before
I was watching film, of course, because that's what we do,
talking cowboys. And then it was time for locker room
availability and one of the guys I pulled to the
side was Cavin Carson, just to kind of get his
mindset on climbing back. He said, quote unquote, I feel
like I'm back. He talked about feeling confident now, talked
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about how he's no longer thinking and you saw that,
you know when on that PBu where he broke them
to the ball and he jarred it loose with the tackle.
Tackling is there. The shoulder is great, and he's feeling great.
He feels great, So that's promising. Now let's talk about
some numbers real quick. Kevin Carson against the Raiders, he
showed that he could do it in both capacities. He
could do it in man coverage, which we felt that
he could because that was one of his green flags
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coming out of Wake Force, but he's also showing he
can do it in zone coverage. So on man coverage
he was targeted nine times, he allowed only one catch
for only eighteen yards, no tuddies. In zone coverage he
was targeted five times, allowed only three catches for only
thirty seven yards, no touddies, no chunk plays. Then, of course,
he had the red zone PPU against none other than
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Brock Boers to keep that from being a touchdown for
Gino Smith and the Raiders at a critical part of
the game. I say all this to say, and I'll
state this again, there is a massive test coming up
this week for Kayln Carson.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Massive.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
But I also feel confident that while Davante, I think
Davante will get a chunk play or two.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
It's just I mean, he's just that. Yeah, that's freaking good.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
If Jalen Hurts can get him the ball which is
a different conversation. Right, then Davante can make the play.
But I do think you will see Kayln Carson when
he's matched up against DeVante Smith. I think he'll win.
He'll win some of those reps. And that's what I'm
excited to see. I want to see if this confidence
that he's now building, this groove that he's getting into,
is going to translate against a contender. Because if it
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can and Revel can get hands on and flush aj Brown,
then my question is what does this linebacker group look
like d mow and Logan and Raddy Stewart darn Bland
when it comes to inside coverage on Dallas Goddard. Yeah,
because the Cowboys did an excellent job of shutting down
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sa Kwon Barkley in Week one without Quinn Williams, Okay,
without Savonne Revel, without Kaylin Carson, So they were able
to do these things. They only held them to sixty
yards rushing one touchdown, and they could have won that
game if not for the infamous drops. Right, I think
that they can contain Sakwon Barkley, even more so with
Quinn Williams on the field. So for me, now you're
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talking about Dallas Goddard. My eyes just keep going back
to Dallas godd That's gonna be the person I believe is.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Going to dictate that game, this game for the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I want to talk a little bit more about that,
but I also want to go to the second segment here,
and then of course we have lab code coming up. Yeah,
with third segment a little bit later on. Want to
leave plenty of time for that. More of the Cowboys
defense preview going up against the Philadelphia offense when we
come back right after this.
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Isaiah you talked a little bit about I.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Forgot I gotta tost his news and oh yes, please
please for got a news And note dumone Clark. He
was claimed yesterday by none other than Demico Ryan's and
Demico Ryan and the Houston Texans.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
So I'd love to see that for dark Oonne.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Just a fantastic human being who did all he could
to kind of clause way into the good graces of
Mike Zimmer and Matt eber Fluis was unable to do so,
but still very early in his career. And that's just
a fantastic landing spot for him, and he gets to
stay in Texas, not far from home. So Demon Clark
and I spoke with him yesterday after he was claimed,
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and he's in just excellent spirits at you know, the
potential for what comes next for him in Houston. So
De Moon Clark to the Texans, nice good, good stuff,
shouts out to Allen's thanks for reminded me.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Yeah, there you go. So that best of luck, damone.
Hope you have some success down there in h Town.
All right. Uh. Continuing the preview, Isaiah brought up yesterday
Jake Ferguson and how much he could play an impact
in this game. Patrick just said, Dallas Goddard is going
to play a big impact in this game. Josh, I'll
look at you now. Yeah, tight ends are obviously going
(24:37):
to be a big part of this whole thing. Whenever
there are so many weapons on the outside, though, should
they be the featured part of either one of these offenses,
especially talking about Philly, Oh absolutely.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
I mean the fact that I mean Isaiah alluded to
Kevin Patullo and sort of the uncreativity that he has
for their offense trash, I mean the personnel is there.
There's no doubt about person they just want. The super
personnel is there. They haven't lost a lot of guys.
It's their offensive line for me, that has taken a
step back. But in terms of the offensive line is
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taking a step back, they're not who they were last year.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
No, they're banged up too, though.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
They're banged up, and just the even before the performance
isn't there. I mean, if you in terms of Saquon Barkley,
and not to get away from the passing side of things,
but he's rushing at a full one yard less per
contact this year over last year prior to content, prior
to contact. Yeah, big, that's huge for Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
And we talked about last week with JENTI.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
Absolutely the numbers haven't been there for him necessarily.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Do you know where they're week at on their offensive line?
Where are they three interior offensive linemen?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Really?
Speaker 7 (25:40):
Waitit wait, do we have really good interior defensive linemen?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Cowboys? Really?
Speaker 6 (25:45):
Now we're the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
That doesn't happen. I think, what is that?
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Shakira?
Speaker 7 (25:51):
No, that's not secure, but at least for me, the
secret weapon that they have and honestly, he's playing relatively
well compared to all of the flak that the Eagles
offense gets. Is Jalen Hurts. I really think that he's
honed what he does as a quarterback in that he
doesn't make the mistakes. He doesn't want to throw tight
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window throws.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
He doesn't want to throw.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
He doesn't want to throw. But in terms of his
rankings among the top qbs in the NFL, he ranks
number five and deep ball completion percentage, number one in
pressured completion percentage, number four in completion percentage versus man,
and a number three passer rating versus man at one
twenty seven point two. He's an efficient passer when he
(26:39):
decides to pass, and he is not above taking a
drive and saying like we'll live to see another drive.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, he's very patient.
Speaker 7 (26:48):
He's extremely patient. Wisdom a dream quarterback for Bill Belichick type,
you know what I mean, Because he's not going to
make the mistake. That's what Jalen.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Hurts game is. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
So if he's going up against an offense that is
on all cylinders, that's what I'm talking about. The Dallas
Cows have to be perfect on offense. Yeah, they have
to annihilate Phillies defense each avia because if what you
want is Jalen Hurts playing from behind, you do that's
what you want. You don't want him to control the game,
to be the bus driver, because that's what he does.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Best, and he doesn't. He doesn't turn the football over,
he doesn't put the ball in harm's way. And so
if you're able to push him into pressure situations, you're
able to continuously make him throw the football play from behind,
then those mistakes can start to pop up. Right now,
Jalen Hurts has one hundred and fifty six consecutive passes
under pressure without an interception. So even when there's pressure,
(27:45):
physical pressure, they're not putting the ball in harm's way
and they're dumping it off underneath, they're hitting those shallow
crossing they're just continuously working the ball methodically down the field.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
Where if you're able to put.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Them in a situation where they're down a touchdown, down
two touchdowns, and your offense is doing what they do best,
which is put up points, then all of a sudden,
their offense gets completely out of whack because they anticipate
their defense just setting the tongue. That's what they rely
that's where they start it all and that's where they
want to finish it all.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
Like they don't mind punting when they absolutely needs it,
like all right, sure if it's on fourth and one,
I'm going to get the ball back like it's fine, exactly.
They have so much confidence in their defense, and that's
I think the Achilles heel, Like you have to attack
their defense.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
You know what's going to be interesting to watch though.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
And first of all, let's see if the officials officiated
the way it should be done.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
You're starting, oh yeah, you know what I mean, probably
just not getting third and shorts.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I agree with that in the event that you do,
which eventually you will, because I mean you're never going
to go sixty minutes of football and not be in
a third and short situation. I mean, it's it's just
going to happen, right, because mistakes happen, they.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Will not be in a third and one situation all
game all.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Are you saying that with your chase? I would love,
But that means you got to speak up.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
We're not going to see it.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah I didn't say that. He said one, not a
single time. Will you being third one? I would love
for that to beat.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
No third ones? First driving, no third one, no third ones.
I'm with it.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
I don't know how that happened.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
But what what makes your game is gonna be different
than what people believe. What makes you say that they're
struggling on an interior office of line, they're really struggling.
If you go back and watch the Detroit game that
the interior d linemen which are not like.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
That's not their strong suits not and the lane Johnson's hurt.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Okay, So I mean, so they're there there, their their
wing is is injured, and then their freaking cabin is
all busted upright, you know, I'm saying the glasses.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Their freaking windshield is cracked.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
I mean, it's whatever wants to come through that windshield
is coming through that windshield. And we just happen to
have arguably the best Tannement interior defensive line in the
league next to Philly.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
So here's what's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Hold on, were those two separate metaphors very much a
wing and there playing is jacked? Oh so it's a
plane now it's not it's the wing.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Okay, I did that, But I don't know what you
want me.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
So the wing is all is Jack, John, don't do this.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I don't want to go go gadget so I don't
know the wing is Jack the way he's you might want.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
I'm thinking about mad here.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
That's what my visual.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
So in the interior office line, it's not good. I'm
just telling I agree.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
So I really think that you. I think that Dallas
is gonna truly disrupt what they're doing. And I'm asking,
I'm pleading that that coach Eberflus allows these cornerbacks to
go up and press like play a J.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Brown. Man a man?
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Can you can you look at your camera and give
mattiberfl coach, dude.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Please allow your interior office of lineman, defensive lineman to
go him press up on a J.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Brown. Go put your most physical defensive back on a J. Brown.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Sit on the inside pocket because he can't outrun your
your dbs.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
He can't.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
He doesn't have to go juice any Sit on the
inside hip, jam him up at the line of scrimmage,
yap to him. Double Davonte Smith and make sure that
your linebackers get get jams on.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Goddard. That's what I'm asking.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Make it hard for goddr to get off the line
of scrimmage, sit on the inside hip of AJ Brown.
Freaking I Honda go make these guys play sho make
them play street fighter for the remainder of the week. Okay,
get him in the corner and up. He can't run
over the top, all right, And I guarantee you that
you will have two turnovers via the air if you
(31:36):
do that, because there's gonna become a point in time.
If you can stop Sakwan Barkby from running the ball
what you did last time, and you're gonna do a
better job this time. Arguably, then he's gonna then Hurts
is gonna have no choice but to put the ball up.
And if Devontae Smith is doubled up, he can't go
over there, and he's gonna try to force it the
AJ Brown, him and A J. Brown are not in sync. Okay,
they're not in sync. They're not an R and B
(31:56):
group and they're not a bluetooth that you can't do it.
So let him throw all over the top pick a.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
Ball doing that.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Here's here's the thing, like it's it's really not like
Kevin Patulo's schemes are trash. Players are not. Schemes are trash,
are predictable. You can disrupt everything that they're doing by
literally going up there, play play a j man the
man like there. They would be appalled that you're doing it.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Prove me wrong, prove me wrong.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
See, you just kind of made my point as far
as number one, I want everything you said to come true.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Sounds great.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Matter of fact, let me just say it in my
full blown Southern I want every damn thing you said
come true, Isaiah.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Start a fight.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Just sounds like I said, you.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Just said something that's This is what makes it difficult
for me to fathom going against a team with this
much talent, regardless of how trash their coordinator is, which
I agree, somebody's going to get nine yards on a
second and ten and that's how you get third and one.
So when the third and one had happens, which I
(33:00):
hope never does, when it happens to push versus Quinn
Williams and Kinny Cork.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
I love the Savannah ax, so it still works.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
I mean, but oh, that wasn't Savannah accent. You know,
that was more normal talk.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
That was more Yeah, you're you're more talking like your
regular talking voice still has like tweaks of Savannah in there.
And then but then when you tried to go more southern,
you sounded like uh Brian Kelly and the press conference
and he took the LSU job. My family a like, dude,
shut up, dude, you're from Indiana from Lord.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
Oh dude, it's terrible. Have you watched that video? It's
awful Brian Kelly.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Shit, But yeah, is much much different if I let
that Loos, just like the Atlanta accident is. If I
let that, lucy 'all won't understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
Don't let me get a little up in here, Lobos.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
No.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
I want everything Isaiah said to come true. I do.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
But in the event the the toush push comes into play,
I want the officials to officiate it how they need
to do your jobs. That's what you're getting paid to do.
And I would love to see it versus Quinn Williams,
because Quinn Williams was asked about it and he's not
going up against the touch push before.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
So I want to see all touch bushes. It's a
rugby place, so I mean, it's it's very difficult to stop.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
So I'm not even more when you're letting them get
off the ball before it starts for now.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
So I'm less concerned about that because I don't think
third one is gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Now.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
You might get down the goal line and it happens, but.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
I don't whatever, touch pushes, touch push, you find yourself
in that situation, you're probably screwed. But I don't forcee either.
I don't think there might. I'm obviously standing up on
a big old mountain by myself. But yeah, no third ones.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
I like it. Brian Kelly's also from Massachusetts, by the way,
so still very much.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
So, even less of a likelihood than he would have
have that it's more Indiana would have.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
I'm going to show you this video and this in
the break here in a second, but we're gonna we
got to take our break because we got to have
time for lab code need segment.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
Pat, what do we got coming up?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Since we're talking about the offense of the Philadelphia Eagles
and we're talking about Quinn Williams and that in defensive
interior for the Cowboys, let's talk about exactly how well
they're playing off of each other on Talk and Cowboys.
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And beamur yes, science.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Yeah, lab coat. Here we go, labcoat with a k
If you're nasty, I know you are. We're gonna talk
about really quickly. We all know that Quinn Williams played
extremely well in his debut, Yes he did. And looking
at the film and then looking at the advanced statistics
on next Gen Stats and tell you exactly how well
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he played, and then I'll tell you how others fed
off of that. First and foremost of one thing that
jumped up off of the film for me was his
get off. Okay, so I was curious for a man
that's over three hundred pounds, who can't who can fire
off the snap that quickly? I wanted to see who
(40:12):
else had had a get off time that was that elite.
Max Crosby's was one point one zero seconds on average
on thirty pass rushes.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
What is earth on?
Speaker 1 (40:24):
I'm standing here?
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Quinn Williams was one point zero eight seconds on only
two fewer pass rushes. So the numbers are directly comparable
because they almost had the same number of pass rushes.
And Quinn Williams was getting off the ball quicker than
Max Crosby.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
That is absolutely insane. For a guy that's.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Fifty forty pounds forty fifty pounds heavier than Max Crosby,
what did that allow him to do?
Speaker 1 (40:47):
That allowed him to.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
That allowed him to get a quarterback pressure over expectation
of plus eight percent. That was the highest of any
Cowboys player in that game.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
I like those words.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
This was his his debut, this was his first time
playing in the Cowboys uniform. With this playbook in Matt
eber Flus and Quinn Williams had the highest quarterback the
over expectation of any Cowboys player. Here's what's even better.
Now we know that, we know he's gonna draw double teams.
Those double teams are going to allow other guys to
(41:19):
have straight up matchups, right, But then what is Quinn
Williams doing with these double teams. He was plus three
percent roughly when double team as hard as his success
rate is concerned.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
So he's winning when you throw two guys at him.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
So that also goes to just how unstoppable Quinn Williams
was and good got off is just as good when.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
You got two guys them.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Okay, oh, now some fans are going to say, oh, well, no,
see it was against the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
You're right, but.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
We're also talking about Quinn Williams. It's not as if
he's not been dominated against some of the best teams
no matter who you're playing, and your get off as
you get off, you get off as you get off.
But as far as the success rates and the pressure
nifectation and things like that, my point is you you
can't this is one player. You can't you what was
the Raiders to color the impact that he had. Because
he's been so great over the course of his young
(42:15):
career against so many good teams.
Speaker 7 (42:17):
He's proven it. As we have a question.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
I just want to add value to what you're providing
science that you're dropping on lap code segment. People need
to understand that. Coming prior to coming to the Dallas Cowboys,
Quinn Williams was primarily a three technique. Primarily a three technique.
When you go back and look at all his Jets film,
he played three technique. Do you know what he played
when he was here? What's that his first game? What's
(42:41):
that one?
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Yeah? Play nose one tech.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
Nos, Kenny Clark got moved out to the three technique.
For those that don't understand, you start to count with
zero over the center and you move gradually move out
from the outside shutter. You go one, two, three, Okay,
all right, So the the even numbers are head up
on officeive lineman. Zero's head up over the center, two's
head up over the guard. Okay, Three would be the
outside shade of the guard. So Kenny Clark got moved
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out to Quinn and williams normal position, and Quinn Williams
came to the one technique, meaning that he was lined
up in the gap between the center and the guard.
So these statistics that my man over here is stating
were literally against two people almost every time.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Now, let me piggyback off ohead, sir, because you mentioned
Kenny Clark. So let's talk about double teams and how
it works. So how many times was Quinn Williams double
team fourteen times? Okay, so he drew double teams fourteen times,
Kenny Clark, and he drew five dropbacks or something like that,
twenty eight dropbacks, twenty eight Kenny Klark. Kenny Clark, he
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had thirty two dropbacks. He drew a double team thirteen times,
and he had a plus two percent success rate. So
your two interior defensive linemen are doing what they're supposed
to do and drawing the double teams to free up
your edges, but they're also still effective against those double teams.
Didn't now say that over the last time you did?
Speaker 7 (44:03):
You did?
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Interesting you did.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Now let's parlay this to the defensive end spot with
those two.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
Guys on talking cowboys, right, with those two guys of
taking up that those types of assignments.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
You have James Houston, who was double team a few
of the four times. Dante followed double teamed zero number
of times. Donovan Zraku was double teamed zero number of times.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
David clown zero Spanish.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yes, Jevon Clowney was double team there. Who knows once
your defensive ends now I know, yeah, I know your
defensive ends now are seeing one v ones.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
So again, to.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Put this in perspective as far as going up against
a an Eagles offensive line that has taken a huge
step back that I not have, Lane John got to
just making sure you're seeing across the board effectiveness because
it's not simply Quinn Williams, but he is absolutely a problem.
But Kenny Clark next to him and then mixing osa
(45:12):
Osa had six pressures on thirty two rushes almost nineteen percent.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
He drew fourteen double teams.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
Still got his sack, still had three quarterback kids six
percent plus six percent win double team plus six percent
success rate, higher than even Quinning, higher than Kenny Clark.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Now, you just need this to translate and it can
again against the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line that just has
not been world.
Speaker 7 (45:39):
So he definitely had to trade for an edge rusher.
Speaker 4 (45:40):
Right, I'm really glad we talked Isaiah into wanting a
defensive tackle. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
I just want to raise my hand so that I
can have Josh talk.
Speaker 7 (45:49):
I mean we definitely had to trade for an edge rusher, right, Yeah,
that was necessary. We needed to do that. That was
the spot.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Why is this You gotta suck me both the go
ahead and run, just go ahead and run.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
The sound brother, go ahead and running.
Speaker 6 (46:06):
Oh jeez, I'm glad.
Speaker 4 (46:10):
I'm glad.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Yeah, oh brother, this guy sticks, also shouts out to
the chest. Y'all got me cracking up. Yes, I'll spend
a few hours studying the guy's get off.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Yes you did get off.
Speaker 5 (46:24):
Time was against two guys, against two guys, against three guys.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Get off with the guys, get off, double teams, getting off.
Speaker 5 (46:30):
The best get off of his life. Yeah, he had
the best game of his life. Good thing, best performance
he's ever had. Good thing he wore the white pants,
best performance ever had. Kyle, I think that's I think. Yeah,
we gotta get we gotta get to the more shoulders.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (46:48):
We're cutting it off. It's time to go home. It's
time to keep going. Say it with your chest Friday tomorrow.
If this wasn't saying it with your chest, and I
don't know what would be.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
We appreciate you guys ready watching.
Speaker 6 (47:01):
Yeah, we've got to get you popcorn ready.
Speaker 4 (47:02):
We're gonna wear our family hoodies tomorrow. Tomorrow, it's just Friday. Dude.
You look like the farnh for Patrick No seawalker for
Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah stand back. I'm Chris Bean. We'll see
you tomorrow with more talking cowboys. Oh man, that's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and
the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
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