Talkin’ Cowboys: Wrong Cards Played, Time to Trade

Kyle Youmans, Patrik Walker, Isaiah Stanback, and Josh Rodriguez react to the Cowboys’ 27-17 loss to the Cardinals and where things went wrong up front. The crew discusses whether changes are needed at offensive tackle and why adding LB Logan Wilson via trade helps, but isn’t the only move Dallas should consider as the trade deadline is here.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Cowboys. This he is Talking Cowboys, springing live.

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From the Dallas Cowboys World Course at the Star in Frisco.

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Puts take boarders here, plus Dot Tenzon, Teddy Patdown.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
And now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez
and Kyle Yeomans.

Speaker 5 (00:38):
Twenty seven to seventeen the final score in Week nine
of the NFL season as the Cowboys fall to three
five and one at the hands of the Arizona Cardinals.

Speaker 6 (00:48):
On Monday Night Football.

Speaker 5 (00:49):
Welcome in to Talking Cowboys, presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company.
Here from the Star in Frisco and the SWBC Studios.
We've got Patrick Noci Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah stand Back,
Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeoman's Cowboys struggle
on third down, they struggle to hold on to the
football and just one offensive touchdown and it took till

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the midway point of the fourth quarter to find the
end zone on the offensive side of things all, a
recipe for losing is ultimately.

Speaker 6 (01:22):
What it was for. I don't like that, Kyle.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
It is not a cake you want. It is not
a meal you want. But either way, you got to
take that l It's a little salty, It's very salty today.
A little sour and salty is so that's gross.

Speaker 6 (01:36):
Yeah, neither one of those sound.

Speaker 7 (01:37):
You can't have a salty cake, Kyle, salty cake. Salty
cake is not good cat ingredients.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
I'm just gonna keep pushing past twenty seven to seventeen.
You fall to a two to five Cardinals team. All
of us here on say it with your chest. Friday
picked the Cowboys, and all of us were indeed wrong.

Speaker 8 (01:57):
You know what, Kyle, you were right after we all
picked the Cowboy is Kyle at the very end of
that second said well, congrats.

Speaker 9 (02:03):
Congrats, because that is a dub for you for all
of us picking.

Speaker 6 (02:08):
The Dallas Cowboy.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
Now today another storyline. We are not taking phone calls
today because there's just too much to break down from
yesterday's game, plus the trade deadline that is today, and
the Cowboys have already made one move, trading a twenty
twenty sixth seventh round pick to a choir linebacker. Logan
Wilson will talk more about that in News and Notes
here in a moment, but really, when it comes down
to it, Patrick, I'm gonna start with the game.

Speaker 10 (02:29):
You didn't play well. You're not playing well.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
You're zero to two over these last couple games going
into the trade deadline, when you either could have been
at five hundred or above five hundred and given yourself
life going into the toughest part of your schedule post by.

Speaker 11 (02:46):
Sweet Chin Music past the Awkschord. Hmmm, you're three five
and one now three five and one. So last week's
lab Coat, I said, the best case scenario if you
lose this game is that you would have fourteen to
fifteen percent of making the playoffs. That was best case scenario.
That means all the other dominoes had to fall in
your favor as far as other teams losing and so forth.

(03:06):
What is it now? It's ten percent and ten that
might be generals, that might be generous.

Speaker 12 (03:12):
That doesn't seem very high.

Speaker 11 (03:14):
It's actually quite low. So much no, no, no, out
of the whole one Hunter. So, if you're if you're
a Cowboys fan right now, and you were considering some
vacation time in January, but you were concerned that it
might conflict with some possible Cowboys games. Odds are you're

(03:41):
perfectly fine.

Speaker 12 (03:42):
Don't you put that evil on me?

Speaker 6 (03:43):
You put that evil on medses Is in January.

Speaker 11 (03:46):
Odds are that you're perfectly fine. I mean this Cowboys,
are you just you just failed at three one and
you fail at three five and one in you know,
generous playoff odds at ten percent. Yeah, to a pre
previously listless Arizona Cardinals team that was two and five.
We did sit here and say.

Speaker 12 (04:04):
At least they were on a hot streak right going
into this game.

Speaker 6 (04:06):
They had lost five straight. Oh, they were on a streak.

Speaker 11 (04:10):
Cool, right, And we sat here and said last week,
we said, you know, it doesn't matter the way this
defense was playing. It doesn't matter if it was Kyler
Murray or Jacoby Brissett. They both presented their own sort
of challenges to the count.

Speaker 12 (04:23):
That wasn't Kurt Warner out there.

Speaker 11 (04:25):
No, it wasn't. It looked very Tom bradyish in the
way that he was just dissecting those guys. But then
what makes it worse is and again we've come to
we've come to expect that this defense is going to struggle.
We've expected that, right two weeks in a row, though, Cayle,
you want to repeat what you said. Two weeks in a.

Speaker 10 (04:43):
Row, the offense did not play well.

Speaker 6 (04:46):
They scored at all?

Speaker 11 (04:47):
How many offensive touchdowns?

Speaker 6 (04:48):
Just one? One was in the fourth? Wait?

Speaker 12 (04:51):
Was Dak healthy?

Speaker 8 (04:52):
Yes, CD, George Pickens, Jake Ferguson, come on to Turbine, Andrew.

Speaker 12 (05:00):
Hey, Williams, Ye, Cooper.

Speaker 11 (05:02):
BB, Tyler Guy, even Cooper BB and Tyler Smith.

Speaker 10 (05:04):
They were out Booker full strength.

Speaker 11 (05:06):
Yeah, oh yeah, and it mattered not because the Cowboys
allowed a total of nineteenoteen And we talked about the
defense where he warned on nineteen pressures on thirty nine
d two weeks in a row.

Speaker 6 (05:18):
We've tried to talk about it.

Speaker 12 (05:19):
That sounds pretty high.

Speaker 11 (05:21):
Nineteen on thirty nine drop backs. That's forty eight pressured. Yeah,
pressured nineteen times and thirty nine drop backs.

Speaker 6 (05:27):
It felt like that on the film too.

Speaker 11 (05:31):
Yeah, he was hit what eleven times? Nine times five secs? Yeah,
this is now Now, Now we're at the point where
nobody's carrying anybody. You needed the offense to carry the defense. No, no,
they're not strapped up. Left them at home, yeah, left
them home. So now it's to quote Josh Rodriguez, what

(05:55):
are we doing?

Speaker 8 (05:56):
Also another quote coach Darry Dennis Greens of the Arizona
Cardinals one of the most famous quoits of all time. I'm
gonna adjust it a little bit. They aren't who we
thought they were in terms of your Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 6 (06:11):
I don't like that.

Speaker 8 (06:13):
I mean, and yet, look like we just talked about
full capacity going up against a team that has lost
five straight.

Speaker 9 (06:21):
That is, for real an embarrassing performance.

Speaker 7 (06:25):
Okay, so a couple of things. A couple of things.
We all said that the Cowboys going to win. I
had hope that the Cowboys are going to figure out
a way to win, and we stated that if they
were going to win, it was going to have to
be in the form of sustained drives. Offensively, you weren't
going to get the big play on Arizona. We said
that on Thursday correct or Wednesday. Sorry, my apologies. We

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sweeped to day, so Wednesday we stated that you weren't
going to make the big play. So you're gonna have
to do what versus a three or four defense? Run
the ball?

Speaker 6 (06:53):
Okay, well, did you run the ball effectively with Jamonte Williams.

Speaker 7 (06:57):
Yes, you know it was a fourteen or fifteen eighty five.

Speaker 6 (07:02):
You run it tough too.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
I'm talking about peraking out of tackles, spinning out of guys,
guys thatre unblocked.

Speaker 7 (07:08):
So Javonte Williams did well with what he was given,
yet he only had fifteen carries. So you did not
stick to the run even though it was effective. In
the passing game, your passing concepts were very predictable. Also
in the passing game, you had no protection. The terror
still did not have a good game. Guiden did not
have a good game. Booker did not have a good game.

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These guys allowed pressures non stop, seemingly there was always
somebody that was giving up pressure. Dak Prescott at times
didn't help either. He was sitting back in his at
nine and ten yards on his depth on his drop
backs when he was ready in the shotgun, and that
does not help your offensive linemen in terms of their
their target points. Most defensive linemen are aiming for a

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seven yard point in terms of strike point in terms
of getting to the quarterback. Where Dak's sitting back at nine,
that makes their job easier defensively, So he's to blame
on some of these plays as well.

Speaker 6 (08:01):
Receivers in tight ends tight ends had a rough night.

Speaker 7 (08:05):
They just call it what it is. Jake Ferguson had
a rough night. Pass It just wasn't great for Jake
k it was it was not in good hands yesterday.
Receivers CD didn't give the best effort yesterday. I'll call
the spade a spade. Go back and watch the film.
There was a lot of a lot of what I

(08:25):
would consider to be loafs. And this is not just
speaking to him. I'm just talking about going position by
position here. CD did not exert the effort that you
would expect from your number one receiver.

Speaker 12 (08:36):
Was that in run blocking or this was in routes, routes.

Speaker 6 (08:40):
Routes a lot of half speed routes.

Speaker 7 (08:42):
Have you guys noticed that there was a lot of
batted balls at the point of the reception for for CD,
A lot of those were kind of half speed routes.
Dak was off, was not on time on some of
those things where he was padding the ball a little
bit sitting back there.

Speaker 6 (08:54):
Should have released the ball before he got out of
his break.

Speaker 7 (08:56):
But also he didn't have a great understanding of the
timing of the route because the route wasn't being ran
at full speed like it was every other time he's
been thrown it. So a lot to go in terms
of blame yesterday offensively, defensively, this we ran a five
to one five for.

Speaker 6 (09:12):
Probably thirty percent of the snaps.

Speaker 7 (09:14):
Yesterday, five down linemen, one linebacker, oftentimes Kenneth Murray was
that one linebacker who ended.

Speaker 6 (09:21):
Up being a blitzer.

Speaker 7 (09:23):
I guess I mean you dropped out James Houston and
Sam Williams into coverage numbers of times, not the guys
that don't necessarily want covering in space. But those guys
are being asked to play cover. That's not something that
they do. Neither is Marqu's Bell a cover safety. Much

(09:43):
like earlier in the year, you're asking Donovan Wilson to
be a cover safety that didn't pan out well prior
to his injury. Now Marku's Bell comes to the fold
and he's being asked to guard one of the best
tight ends in the league.

Speaker 6 (09:54):
Just not going to happen. I don't blame the player.

Speaker 7 (09:59):
He doesn't have the capabilities of executing what you're asking
him to do. I go back to what I said
weeks ago, long time ago, or actually private camp. These
are damn quinn players that you're asking to play man
to man. These are strong safeties. Strong safeties can't play man.
But these are not their position. That's not what they do.
It's not Darren Woodson. And then last, lastly, Deryn Bladd

(10:21):
had a rough night.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
Oh you're being nice.

Speaker 7 (10:23):
He had a rough night. Marvin Harrison Junior had his way,
Wilson had his way some of these routes. He had
a rough night. I'm not even just talking about the
goal line play where he ended up on his butt.
There was other routes playing off coverage. Matt eber Flus,
You gotta stop man like I like, you gotta stop

(10:43):
like some things are the players second and twelve and
you're giving up eight yard passes untouched, tight ends, running
down the seams, through the linebackers, through your secondary untouched.
Nobody's getting a hand on these guys at all. These
are These are routes on air. This is what you
do on pre practice. This is what you do at
the beginning of practice, individual drills. This is what you

(11:04):
do before the game starts, and you're throwing the ball
against your DB's because you don't want to hurt nobody.
So those guys just kind of play off. That's how
guys are running down the field right now. And it's
not okay. So there's so much to blame. This is
not one person. And I went through that whole spiel
because I wanted everybody to get the smoke, because everybody's
responsible for the smoke. This is not good stuff we're

(11:24):
seeing right now. And and kudos to we'll talk about
the trade. That's it's not gonna address the problem now.
It's not gonna. It's not gonna. It's not gonna address
the problem. Do you get better?

Speaker 6 (11:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (11:33):
We'll see, but does it impact the other position groups
to know? That's what I'm That's what I've been beating
the walling about. In terms of the trade deadline. You
need to get a person who impacts multiple people.

Speaker 6 (11:47):
I hope that this trade helps the team, but I
can't foresee it.

Speaker 7 (11:51):
Regardless of how good he comes in playing, he's gonna
face the same problems offensive linemen are getting on linebackers.

Speaker 6 (11:57):
Our linebackers are unable to get off of three hundred
third pound grown men. They're not built for that.

Speaker 7 (12:02):
A two hundred and forty five pound linebacker is not
built to get his hands off a three hundred plus
pound lineman. You have to stop the lineman from getting
up to the next level.

Speaker 11 (12:10):
There's this real quick and then we'll get back to
putting built the ass. Gavonte Williams just he just did
everything my godshould do, blocking, running, recovering fumbles. He just
did everything he could do. So shout out to him. Yeah,
well yeah he did that. He was he perfect. No, no,
but did you do that?

Speaker 7 (12:28):
You do that when you're when you're when you're string,
you're press pressing, Yeah, pressing.

Speaker 6 (12:31):
Williams ran the ball. Great.

Speaker 7 (12:32):
Gervonte Williams miss missed guys or guys miss tackles on
him that were unblocked. That big play that he had
in the second half, that was an unblocked outside linebacker
Indre three to four, who was unblocked a lot.

Speaker 6 (12:43):
Of the game.

Speaker 7 (12:43):
Javontay Williams in pass blocking put guys on their tail.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
Even on the play that he fumbled on. Remember it
was third down and long and it was in the flat.
He was trying to work back to the line of scrimmage,
work back to the to the line the game rather
and get that direction, and that's where he was pressing.
It was, yeah, met by one guy stayed on his feet,
by another guy stayed on his feet, and then the
ball got.

Speaker 11 (13:03):
Rich just trying to recovering. He was just trying it
with three four guys.

Speaker 8 (13:08):
Two guys that were pressing. But you know, actually did
show up in a big way.

Speaker 11 (13:12):
So those critics to those guys, I mean, yeah.

Speaker 8 (13:16):
But there's a lot to say about Doron Bland. He
had a really terrible game. But I mean, if you
add on the how off ball he was, I mean, like, genuinely,
I think without looking at the film, I feel like
he was playing twenty five yards off off of this receiver.

Speaker 11 (13:31):
You know, I felt that way because he'd start about
ten yards off and then bail. Yes, that's how That's
how you got you too.

Speaker 8 (13:38):
And I think that's also a lack of confidence in
how your safeties are able to cover the field. I
think absolutely it's all of those things are one thing
begets the other in terms of the defense. When one
aspect is playing poorly, everything else is going to suffer.
It is just a fundamental problem from the top down.

Speaker 6 (13:54):
I do want to give kudos to two people.

Speaker 7 (13:56):
I want to give kudos to Donovan as Irak, who
he's coming along. He's coming along, it was. It's not
great yet, but he's coming along. He's getting better. Who
was the other one?

Speaker 5 (14:05):
What have we talked about that? Donovan Azrak? Who can
fix right now? It's his technique. Yes, because speed and shick,
strength and size that will come over time, but right
now you can fix technique on his sack.

Speaker 6 (14:17):
Was it a speed rush or was it a technique?
Right now?

Speaker 7 (14:20):
That was a technique and quick cans and rose again.

Speaker 6 (14:24):
It was good. Kudos to Irrefluce on that.

Speaker 7 (14:26):
Because the five men front allow for all the guys
up front to have one on one matchups. Yes, that's
one of the reasons why you go to a five
man even though I don't like it, these guys drop
it in coverage. When you go five guys versus five guys,
everybody has a one on one. So Donovan Ezrok, who
on that particular play, won his one on one. The
other gentleman who played lights Out was Jadavian Jadavian Clowney

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in person, Davian Clowney on film play lights Out that
was in run defense, that was in pass rush.

Speaker 6 (14:56):
Was a mad man there's a couple plays he took off, obviously,
but this.

Speaker 8 (14:59):
One where we got the win knocked out of him,
and he like still stayed in the game, Like just clearly.

Speaker 6 (15:03):
Looked like a guy who was playing for his job.

Speaker 12 (15:05):
Percent.

Speaker 7 (15:06):
It looked like he was playing like he had heard
some murmurs that there might have been some help coming
in at the position, and he looks like reminded them.

Speaker 11 (15:13):
Felt the type of way about it. Looks like a
guy who finally got starts. Yeah, he wanted to start.
He was upset and frustrated that he wasn't getting the reps.
He got the reps, and then he showed you why
he was something and.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
Maybe he was ramping up to remember he's coming off
the street.

Speaker 6 (15:28):
It took him maybe a month.

Speaker 11 (15:29):
Playing, let's say a month training, Let's say a month.

Speaker 6 (15:32):
Yeah, so maybe it took him a little bit.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
I said this last night as he walked by and
we kind of talked to him for a little bit
outside the locker room, and he he basically I turned
to Isaiah and said, hopefully that's the Jadavium we get
the rest of these, because if that's the case, then
that's a win across the board.

Speaker 10 (15:49):
And I thought the front seven. I tweeted it last night.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
It's one of the few bright spots in the game,
was the way that the front seven pieced things together.
I thought Solomon Thomas did a nice job at certain times.

Speaker 6 (15:59):
I thought his.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
Effort of a couple of opportunities was certainly there. I
thought Osa had a couple reps that you liked. Kenny
Clark had a sack in the game as well. Dante
Valley Junior was banged up, but he still had a sack.
There were good things on the front seven. But that's
what's so frustrating about this whole team is the one
part that you've been waiting for, the one situation that

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you've been waiting to fix. We had this whole argument
last week about how do you fix the defense.

Speaker 6 (16:26):
You got to start with the pass rush.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
You got to start with the defensive tackles, You got
to start with your defensive line, whatever it may be.
You finally get some pass rush, but then everything else
kind of falls apart.

Speaker 10 (16:36):
Everything else just kind of men. It falls off an edge.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
Your offense can't play at the high level that they
were playing initially. Your defensive backs are struggling because they're
playing so far off the line of scrimmage. Your linebackers
are having to chase sideline to sideline every single play.

Speaker 6 (16:53):
Like it's just that's what's frustrating.

Speaker 5 (16:55):
It's like you're going to your grandma's house on Christmas, right.
I heard this from Steve Sarkji in the Texas head coach.
He's like, when you're going to your grandma's house and
you've got your Christmas tree up, right, and it's past Halloween,
people are putting up their Christmas tree and there's just
one or two lights that are out, but it causes
the whole strand. So you go up there and you

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finally find it, you fix it, and that light turns
on then, but then you wait like a couple of days,
and then another one goes out and the whole strand
goes out, and you got to go find that light.

Speaker 6 (17:25):
And it's that's exactly what it is. Right now.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
You're trying to turn these lights to fix your Christmas
tree and it won't all illuminate at the same time, and.

Speaker 6 (17:33):
That's the problem that you're having. Or I have LEDs
hide money over here.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
This Louis Vaton is like laptop bag without a laptop
last night.

Speaker 11 (17:44):
In condition lights. So what are you going all that?

Speaker 6 (17:47):
To be said?

Speaker 8 (17:47):
The defense allowed twenty seven points, and I think any
other game this season you would.

Speaker 6 (17:51):
Have I would have taken that.

Speaker 8 (17:52):
You would have taken that, yeah, because you would have
trusted the Dallas Cowboys offense to score more than twenty
seven points because it's they're one of the top offenses
in the lead.

Speaker 12 (18:00):
No longer anymore.

Speaker 8 (18:01):
But you'd expect that out of guys that any other
home game, on average, you would have won by two
touchdowns exactly.

Speaker 7 (18:09):
But we sat here and told you on Wednesday. At
least I sat here and told you on Wednesday it
wasn't gonna happen. Yeah, it was not like I was
so expected this to be in the Yeah. No, I
don't think any of us predicted the forty now points,
you just weren't not against that defense. That defense was sound,
That defense communicated on the back end.

Speaker 6 (18:27):
That defense was gonna bend, but don't break.

Speaker 7 (18:29):
What do we say they will let you get down
the field until win, until the reds on it?

Speaker 6 (18:33):
Then what are they going to force you to do?
Kick field goals?

Speaker 7 (18:35):
Oh that's right, you want to go for it on
fourth down, no field goals, right, So there's.

Speaker 8 (18:38):
There's another fundamental problem when you're four yards out and
Javonte Williams is carrying the offense on that first drive
and you decide I don't trust him right here in
the middle four yards out.

Speaker 12 (18:50):
Well, i'll tell you to run it twice in a row.
I'll tell you to get you a touchdown.

Speaker 11 (18:54):
I'll tell you what happened there. So you're you're moving
the ball downfield fairly easily. Javonte Williams, he's absolutely eating right.
And then the first sign that you might have that
you will have protection issues, Walter Nolan gets to TfL
to tackle for a loss on Javonte and I think
at that moment it kind of struck Brian Shotenhammer. He
was like, oh, we we might unblocked. Be Yeah, well

(19:16):
it's fair.

Speaker 6 (19:17):
These guys were unblocked. What okay, So is that the problem?

Speaker 11 (19:21):
I was going to say, Okay, is that not the.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
Three to four defense in this running game? It was.
It provided a problem.

Speaker 7 (19:29):
It posed a big problem for the blocking scheme because
literally the inn man on the line of scrimmage, the
stand up defensive in outside linebacker.

Speaker 6 (19:36):
However, you want to refer.

Speaker 7 (19:37):
To him was constantly unblocked, and it was almost like, hey,
we'll outrun him. We'll outrun him away. Like we're running
to the left, he's on the right. We're gonna beat him.
He'll never beat us down there, but there's nobody stopping him.
And like, I don't know what it is about the
blocking scheme that they had set forth for that for
that alignment, but it wasn't working.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
Yeah, all right, we got to take our first break.
When we come back, we'll start to magnifying glass this thing.
We're going to go on the offensive side of the
football first, since they were the ones that I think
struggled the most in the lost And we'll kind of
continue that conversation. Plus we'll talk about the trade and
what happened in the third segment about what's going on
with that Cowboys trade deadline. Does yesterday's result change your

(20:22):
mind as to what the Cowboys should do with the
trade deadline?

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They have some talent. You have some great talent, and
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We're smiling through what was a twenty seven to seventeen
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Speaker 6 (22:52):
That's okay, I'm good. I'm glad you have that mindset,
and everybody that's watching this show, I'm sure has that
mindset as well.

Speaker 5 (22:59):
We really appreach agent tuning in the biggest thing for
me going into the bye week, going into the toughest
part of your schedule. That does happen after the Vegas game.
But still, I mean, you lost. You lost to the
two and.

Speaker 8 (23:14):
Five Begins at the Vegas That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
It's like you've lost two straight. Now you've lost to
the two and five Cardinals. There's nobody on this schedule
from here on out that you can take lightly at
any point in time. So with all that being said,
where do you start on this squad.

Speaker 6 (23:32):
Let's start on the offensive side of the ball. Because
they did struggle.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
They're at full strength, Josh, you mentioned it earlier, Yeah,
they were at full strength. At what point in the year,
nine weeks in have you looked at your offense and said,
there's not a single impact player that you would rather have.

Speaker 6 (23:49):
On the field than what you had available.

Speaker 8 (23:52):
It starts at the point of attack. Your offensive line
is not playing well. I mean, Tyler Smith had a
pretty bad game. Considering what you'd expect out of Tyler Smith,
I think down the line, I think you have to
consider now Nate Thomas starting at right tackle.

Speaker 12 (24:05):
I really do. Wow, Terrence Steele had a.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
Terrible Somebody asked me that on the radio last week,
and I kind of threw that out there. I said
out I don't want to replace Guidon at left tackle.

Speaker 12 (24:15):
But no no ceiling is there?

Speaker 5 (24:18):
Yeah, if there's a conversation to be had, I think
Terrence Steele's had a worse season than Tyler Geiden.

Speaker 9 (24:25):
And I think something about Nate Thomas.

Speaker 8 (24:28):
Whenever he does step in, it doesn't feel like you
actually there's not a regression, there a drop off. I
think adding him into the fold might give you more chemistry.
I don't know, but I'm willing to try it. At
this point, your offensive line is not getting the push
that it needs, and it's just they're getting bullied man.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
And accountability time, at least for me specifically. I can't
remember who else talked about this on this show previously,
but I thought this coaching staff would be the answer
for Tyler all right, for Terrence Steele. I thought this
coaching staff would be a benefit for Steel more than
anything in the off season, and a fully healthy off

(25:09):
season was one. But getting the right coaching staff with
Connor Riley and Clayton Adams. I thought Terrence Steele would
benefit more from this. I haven't seen it in twenty
twenty five. So that's what's disappointed.

Speaker 8 (25:22):
And even a guy like Tyler Booker who had a
relatively who has had a relatively decent season so far
when he's been healthy for you.

Speaker 9 (25:30):
But I mean that penalty yesterday killed.

Speaker 12 (25:33):
You, that killed a drive.

Speaker 8 (25:34):
I mean just big, just bad miscommunication, bad chemistry, just
bad bad offensive.

Speaker 11 (25:40):
Blind plays so far, holding calls, holding, oh man, that
just absolutely murdered their penalties again. But so here's my
concern that I have with the offensive line. So not
only are they playing poorly even now that they're whole.
You say, well, I would, and I get you say
I want to see more of Nate Thomas because Terrence
Steele at a really big game and attribute to whatever

(26:02):
you want you could see.

Speaker 6 (26:03):
It's not just the bad Yeah, it's not just that
he did have a bad game, right, But no.

Speaker 11 (26:08):
So I understand, I understand those that would like to
see Nate Thomas. I get it. It's justified.

Speaker 6 (26:12):
Right.

Speaker 11 (26:13):
The problem is is you saw Nate Thomas yesterday and
his reps.

Speaker 6 (26:18):
He also did that. He didn't play great either.

Speaker 11 (26:21):
Terrence Steele had a greater number of reps. Right, he
allowed five pressures in a sec. Nate Thomas came in
on a fewer number of reps, had four pressures allowed
in a sec.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
GB not great, buff, but a lot of that is
because he's working as a second teamer and he's working
at left tackle, and then he's working at right tackle,
and then there's.

Speaker 6 (26:43):
A little bit there at this job swing tackle. I get.

Speaker 8 (26:46):
But also at that point, the Cardinals are hunting. Absolutely,
you're not running, relying on the run game at all,
and you're throwing down the field.

Speaker 12 (26:53):
Throwing down the field.

Speaker 8 (26:54):
ZAC is taking a sweet time getting the ball out
there because the receivers aren't getting open, they're not creating space.

Speaker 12 (26:59):
It is not good bye.

Speaker 11 (27:01):
I get what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
I do.

Speaker 11 (27:04):
Yes, you are now in a situation where you mostly
one dimensional and the pass get to pin their ears back.
I get it. But the other team getting to pin
their ears bag doesn't undermine the fact that your job
is to stop them from getting to your quarter.

Speaker 6 (27:18):
But let me ask you this.

Speaker 11 (27:19):
It either did or you did not.

Speaker 5 (27:21):
If Terrence Steele was out there in the same reps
that Nate Thomas was out there laid in the game
pin your ears back one dimensional, could you say it
would be any better?

Speaker 6 (27:31):
No? See, that's what I'm saying. That's my point.

Speaker 11 (27:34):
My point is we're looking for solutions on the offensive line,
and I'm saying that. It's easy to say, and I'm
not saying you're wrong. Again, I'm not saying you're wrong
in wanting to see Nate Thomas. Sure, I'm saying, pump
the brakes on saying that Nate Thomas is the fix.

Speaker 6 (27:48):
No.

Speaker 11 (27:48):
No, you just saw Nate Thomas struggle when he was
put in because Steel was struggled.

Speaker 6 (27:53):
I'm not on board with switching up to O line.
You want to keep it. I want to keep it.
And I get that the line is not playing as
a unit. That's the problem. They're playing as individuals.

Speaker 7 (28:03):
I feel like the interior three are playing as a
remotely like a unit. But when you go back and
watch the film, even though we feel like Gavonte Williams
still had a relatively good game with the opportunities that
he had, he had to create a lot and the
reason why he had to create a live is because
guys are unblocked, and the guys that are unblocked are
guys at the second level. This offensive line is not
working up to the second level. You turn on the film,

(28:24):
you watch the run game, just go go ahead and
just filter it out and just push all run game.
Look at how many guys are running free. In terms
of the linebackers. Our officeive line is getting stalemated. Whether
we have one or two guys responsible for an individual,
they're not moving those guys to the second level and
then shedding right, letting guys go, and then going and

(28:47):
getting the linebacker you have. Sometimes you have combo blocks
where you have a three technique, a right, your center,
your guard work together boom shoulder or shoulder shoulder. If
I'm the center, i might push him over to you
and now I'm going to may assign which is the
second level linebacker.

Speaker 6 (29:02):
That's not happening. We're not getting to that second phase.

Speaker 7 (29:04):
And the reason why you're not getting these big splash
plays in the running game is because of that. These
you're just not getting past the first phase of the
first wave.

Speaker 6 (29:13):
It's like playing Dog on Gears of War.

Speaker 7 (29:17):
You know what I mean, Like you're playing it's like
you're on the first wave still, you know you haven't
you haven't cleared the first wave, so you can't even
talk about getting to the next one.

Speaker 6 (29:23):
Yeah, so that's why those splash players aren't happening. So
I'm less.

Speaker 7 (29:27):
Yes, still needed some help yesterday, and Javontay william stepped
on his hill a few times as well and threw
them off his blocks. Like, there are some things that
happened right that made it look bad, worse than what
it probably was. Dak didn't Dak didn't do well either.
He just didn't do well either. There were opportunities to
stand in there and throw the ball he didn't.

Speaker 6 (29:46):
At times.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
I do understand the continuity, and we talked about this
last night. On the postgame show, Nate Newton went deep
into it. He said, this offensive line needs to play
more together. That's the first game where they're all back
in however many weeks, five times Pro Bowl right, six
time prole Boiler. I completely get all of that. And
I've been very adamant on this show and even on
the Draft show before about keeping the continuity up front

(30:09):
and keeping the same five starting guys all year long.
We talked about it through training camp as well. I
just I'm getting closer to the end of the rope.
When it comes to the Terrence Steel thing, That's.

Speaker 6 (30:19):
Kind of where I'm at.

Speaker 5 (30:20):
It's I've always been one to say Terrence Steel's been
doing fine work over there. Is he one of the
best right tackles in football? No, he never has been.
Is he a serviceable right tackle that can get the
job done when you need him to. Absolutely, He's a
good run blocker at different times. But the more I've
seen him struggle this year, and the more I've seen

(30:42):
Nate Thomas come in and fill in admirably at left
tackle or at right tackle. I know he struggled at
the end of the game yesterday. I still want to
see more of it, but I don't necessarily want to
switch it all up.

Speaker 6 (30:53):
So I'm kind of in like a No man's Land
purgatory type thing.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
Whenever it comes to the autos line and I think,
look at what they've done, that might be the case.

Speaker 6 (31:01):
It really might be.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
I'm totally fine moving forward with the same five guys
because they haven't played together. But if we continuously see
them play together, and it's the.

Speaker 6 (31:11):
Same problem over and over and over again.

Speaker 5 (31:14):
That's where I think you need to start making some moves,
just to see what's happening, because if your offensive line
is struggling enough to make a move in the next
three to four games, you're not gonna be sitting at.

Speaker 6 (31:24):
Three five and one anymore.

Speaker 5 (31:25):
You're gonna be at three eight four seven, four eight
and one instead, and by that point you might as
well see what you've got with Nate.

Speaker 8 (31:35):
I'm curious if Nate Newton would he's gonna have hanging
with the boys later. I'm curious how he would speak
in regards to like them playing as a unit, if
at all so far the season, if they've had enough
time to really get that chemistry together, or if it
is a coaching thing.

Speaker 11 (31:50):
That's not where I thought you were going with it.
I thought you were going to say, I'm curious to
see if Nate Newton is willing to suit up.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
I will say, that's a great question, and Nate, I
know you're listening. If you want, give me a call
right now and I'll pull you up on speakerphone and
you can answer that question.

Speaker 11 (32:04):
I'm with you, with you on this cal I say,
at the moment, I might as well see if these
if their front five, can can regain chemistry going forward.
But you have to be very careful here, and this
goes to your point in two ways. Number One, if
they cannot get the chemistry regained for whatever reason over
the next couple of games, I would start making changes

(32:26):
because number one, you do need to see what you
have for the future in Nate Thomas, because that's going
to color your decisions in the offseason as far as
trying to address the right tackle position. In addition to that,
if they can't get the chemistry back, you have to
do something to try to protect Dak Prescott. You can't
just there or you just got to start trying Joe
Milton out there because you can't risk the franchise. You

(32:47):
just can't risk the franchise.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
There's a lot on the table whenever it comes to
the offensive line and the struggles that they had yesterday.

Speaker 6 (32:54):
Hope there's some more on the table.

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Oh I could be, but you just don't want to be.
Just please good team.

Speaker 7 (36:17):
We said that they lost five games by a number
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Speaker 6 (36:22):
We said, do not overlook it.

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And we said at their secondary took away what Dallas
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Speaker 6 (36:29):
We're going to give the ball to Jamonte thirty times.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
But no Isaiah stand Back, Josh Rodriguez, Patrick Noci Walker,
Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman's Cowboys have
made a trade. Everybody, is it gonna fix the defense? No,
it's not. But I actually do like the trade. Logan
Wilson linebacker from the Cincinnati Bengals. He was a third
round pick out of Wyoming. He was one of my
favorite players in the draft in twenty twenty.

Speaker 12 (36:53):
I loved log I was hoping to hear that from CA.

Speaker 6 (36:55):
I like about him.

Speaker 5 (36:56):
He was just a sideline, sideline dog, downhill, good tackler.
He had over five hundred tackles with Cincinnati. He was
a first team All Mountain West I believe back in
the day, second and the first Okay So Multi All
Conference honoree. He was the most fun true middle linebacker
at the Senior Bowl back in twenty twenty, and that

(37:19):
was the first time I really watched him turned on
the film.

Speaker 6 (37:22):
It was much of the same.

Speaker 5 (37:22):
He just flies around back and forth, and he played
like that in starts with Cincinnati. I'll get there when
he played like that a couple times and starts. But
then as time went on he started to lose playing
time with the Bengals, fell out of favor with their system.

Speaker 6 (37:36):
A little bit.

Speaker 5 (37:37):
I think he fits well here, But if you're thinking
he's the fix to the defense, he's absolutely not.

Speaker 6 (37:42):
You traded a seventh round pick for him.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
It's a low value, high risk or a low risk
possibly high reward or even medium reward for the Cowboys.

Speaker 12 (37:53):
I'm okay with it's a definite upgrade at the position.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
Yeah, it gives you another capable body at the linebacker
position right now over.

Speaker 12 (38:00):
The guys that you currently have. Isaiah stand back.

Speaker 7 (38:02):
I'm going to ask the man who studied him in college,
because you're about to pay this dude nine million dollars
a year because you have them on the contract through
twenty six exactly, So nine million dollars a year linebacker
that you just added to your roster.

Speaker 6 (38:13):
I think he's worth that.

Speaker 7 (38:15):
What does he provide you that your current linebackers. Don't
you said running hit? All the linebackers we have running hits.
What else does he better in covered?

Speaker 11 (38:21):
He can cover?

Speaker 6 (38:22):
Yeah, he's better in coverage.

Speaker 11 (38:23):
He's only he's only to that point. He's only two
seasons removed from having four interceptions, so he can cover.
He can get there. While Kyle is looking that up,
I will say.

Speaker 6 (38:32):
This finding my twenty twenty draft notes. Fun. Oh you're
saying that all I love it my thing being oiled
Isaiah's nine million. I just need I need to know definitely.

Speaker 7 (38:41):
What does he provide that that your current guys don't provide.
Murray tackle although and all the linebacks can run it tackle,
Shamar James running hit.

Speaker 11 (38:50):
I'm delarious.

Speaker 8 (38:51):
Part of me thinks it's what you expected out of
Jack Sanborn before you signed him.

Speaker 12 (38:56):
It's what it's what you expected out of that position.

Speaker 11 (38:58):
You never expect a sandpoint to cover like never. My
thing is this for what you gave up for Logan Wilson,
which is a twenty twenty six seventh round pick. I'm
fine with it, but we're not going to sit here
and say that you've seen Friday. Okay, remember when Smokey's
mama had gave him the dollar yes, and he was

(39:20):
like this ain't enough, and she was like make it enough.
That's what I feel like. Jerry is Ibraflus making Wilson
make it enough. Now they're you know, on the horn,
trying to get another one or two or however many trades.
But when it comes to Logan Wilson, he is an upgrade.
But two things can be true at the same time.
While I do believe he's an instant upgrade, and I
would like to see him in conjunction with overshow when

(39:42):
he comes back and I don't know what ebra Flus
is doing with Leo file, which is my question mark
because you had.

Speaker 6 (39:49):
I don't know if they trust him, don't. I don't
know what's going on.

Speaker 11 (39:52):
But nonetheless, let's let's go to Kyle Yeoman's scouting reports.

Speaker 6 (39:56):
I found him my just side note.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
My twenty twenty scouting reports are not as thorough as
they were as they are now.

Speaker 10 (40:04):
It's very very light. That was my first go at
it here with the draft show.

Speaker 5 (40:09):
I did what I could, but I'd stand by what
I wrote here. I said built a lot like Lve.
He reminded me, I guess of Layton vandersh at the time,
and Jerry even brought that up today on one O
five three the Fan. He said he reminded him of
Layton vander ash and what he brought to the table said,
fluid in his movements and a solid tackler, durable, not
afraid of contact at the same time, great against the run,

(40:31):
can cover when you need him to. That was what
I had. That's my scouting report, Like I said, not.

Speaker 8 (40:37):
So far, so good. A good evaluation of a player
that has played well. Yeah, especially you considered last season.

Speaker 5 (40:42):
This season, he was my number seven linebacker in the
class that year in twenty twenty, so that's a long
time ago. In the fact that he's stuck around for
this long shows that he's a solid linebacker and he's
had a decent career with Cincinnati.

Speaker 11 (40:55):
And my concern here is, and I know a lot
of people are saying, well, you know the traded four
guy who got benched in Cincinnati. I think he got
benched in Cincinnati because he mentally checked out, mentally checked
out because that defense is is playing extremely poorly. Oh
but he signed into a defense that's playing well, right.

Speaker 6 (41:10):
And they had what five guys request rades from that defense.
I think four or five guys from that defense alone.

Speaker 7 (41:16):
Again, I go back to the same question, what does
he provide you that your current guys don't because you
play a two linebacker scheme as of yesterday one linebacker.

Speaker 6 (41:26):
So are you taking.

Speaker 7 (41:27):
Shamar James off the field who runs and hits? Are
you taking Kenneth Murray off the field who runs and hits?
Are you taking Maryor's leef out? Who's your rotational guy?
What does he give you that you're not currently getting.
I don't disrespect to the man.

Speaker 11 (41:39):
I feel like this Murray off the field. I feel
like you takes Kenneth.

Speaker 6 (41:42):
Murray off the field and Kenneth Murray runs in it.

Speaker 11 (41:44):
I don't think it's because I think they're really trying
to saying he doesn't run, can continue the unleas of
Shamar and let get his lumps.

Speaker 6 (41:51):
I wonder what it is coverage.

Speaker 11 (41:53):
I think they're letting Shamar get his lumps, So I
don't think that they're going to pull back on Shamar.
I do think it's a it's a Kenneth Murray versus.
But we've already seen Leophile was getting the shorten of
the stick anyway, which means you're not trade. You're not
making this trade and eyeing a guy in leophil who's
already getting the shortening of the stick and saying this
is to push you out. I think it's it's him versus. Yeah,

(42:13):
Murray versus and Logan Wilson.

Speaker 12 (42:15):
For all intens and purposes.

Speaker 8 (42:16):
You're starting linebackers against the Raiders, are going to be
Logan Wilson into Marvin.

Speaker 11 (42:19):
OVERSHELLM yeah, yeah, so I think it pushes Murray to
the bench.

Speaker 5 (42:25):
I once again, the trade happened early this morning. I
haven't watched any Logan Wilson film recently.

Speaker 10 (42:31):
I haven't had that conversation. I haven't watched the film yet.

Speaker 5 (42:33):
So I will go and review this over the next
few days, as I'm sure all of us will. But
his best coverage year came in twenty twenty two, where
he had the most snaps in coverage, He had the
most snaps, he had the most success in coverage. That year,
PFF gave him a seventy four. He did not have
another season after that where he was graded more than.

Speaker 6 (42:52):
A fifty eight.

Speaker 10 (42:54):
So and that's PFF.

Speaker 6 (42:56):
Remember to take that with a grain of salt.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
Everybody their grading system is hit or me, and it's
not the Bible when it comes to evaluating.

Speaker 8 (43:03):
Players, and it depends on sample size two. But that
is a pretty large sample size too.

Speaker 5 (43:07):
He had one thousand snaps in twenty three, he had
seven hundred and forty three snaps last year, and he
had three hundred and sixty two there.

Speaker 8 (43:12):
But that's kind of where PF can get you, like
a low sample size can get you, like a highly
graded player that you're like, Okay, I took.

Speaker 5 (43:17):
I agree with you, though, now now that I'm looking
at my notes and I'm looking at what has happened
in Cincinnati, just without watching the film. Disclaimer on Logan Wilson,
I don't know if he does give you a whole
lot of what you already don't have. I don't know
if he adds anything here that you didn't already have
on your roster.

Speaker 7 (43:37):
My and I go back to what I said last week,
But it's a seburb we're talking about.

Speaker 6 (43:41):
It's a seventh rounder. But it's nine million.

Speaker 7 (43:43):
That's what you're That's what you're paying him, regardless of
what you gave up. You're paying him nine million. You're
paying Kennan Murray seven and a half. Everybody else you
drafted right, So it's outside of Sandboord the thing.

Speaker 6 (43:54):
The linebacker's not the issue. Are they having bad reads? Yes?
Why are they choosing the wrong hold?

Speaker 7 (43:58):
Because these guys are trying to run around the offensive
linemen that are coming up to block them. They are
getting consumed by offensive linemen. They can't get off the blocks.
So if you're telling me that this dude can continuously
shed three hundred pounds men off of them, that's what
he's about to face.

Speaker 6 (44:13):
Two, you needed a dog in the middle, and hopefully
they get it you need.

Speaker 7 (44:18):
I can't say names, but there's individuals that I have
my eye on that can truly impact your d line.
If you get that one person to play next to
Kenny Clark, then you have three guys that have to
block two guys. Now your defensive ends get one on
one matchups and those guys are starting to come along you.

Speaker 6 (44:36):
Last time I checked.

Speaker 12 (44:36):
Right, and you won't need to have five down, five
down linemen.

Speaker 7 (44:39):
So now you have four down linemen that require five
guys to block them, And now who's left to go
block your linebackers? All your linebackers running hit there's no
question about kend the linebacker's running hit. You have athletic
linebackers that love to run sideline the sideline. The problem
is they are not able to shed the right to
shed the blocks of the offensive lineman off as a lineman.

(45:00):
Get into the second level is your problem. Yes, get
somebody in the middle, and I agree, just to clear
it up enough, but one person could be to improve
a lot of other people, and they may not be
done yet.

Speaker 6 (45:11):
We'll get to that conversation here in a second person.
Just to clean it up.

Speaker 10 (45:14):
The cap hit for Logan Wilson this year is just
two point eight.

Speaker 6 (45:17):
That's fine, that's it. That's all he's getting this year.

Speaker 5 (45:19):
And then there's a potential out after this season where
they could have zero dead cap if they decided to
cut it, so he could be a post June one cut.
That would be an out and Dallas would have no
risk there. So there's that if they decided to keep him,
it would be six point five next year, and it
would be seven point two and twenty twenty seven. So
it's not this is a contract that has been pushed

(45:41):
forward and has already mostly been paid by Cincinnati. Because
you're right, over the four years of the deal, it
was thirty six million, which averages out to nine Most
of Cincinnati has already paid that. So the most you
would have against your cap with a Logan Wilson on
your roster would be in twenty twenty seven and they
would be seven point two. I think they have all
of this in mind to where if he doesn't play well,

(46:02):
if he doesn't make an impact, sure they have the out.
There's no dead cap and they can kind of get
rid of that contract. And then it's a rental for
a player for only seven it's a rental or for
a seventh round pick.

Speaker 7 (46:12):
To make this decision. You know, again, no disrespect to
is gentleman. I don't care whoever they were going to
bring in as a linebacker. You're pretty much saying we're
moving on from three maybe four linebackers after this year.

Speaker 6 (46:24):
Yeah, maybe that's what there's that's what this move states.
We're moving very well.

Speaker 7 (46:29):
Could be all right now bye bye, then that's what
you're pretty much saying network all right now, bye.

Speaker 12 (46:32):
Bye then uninjured reserve by the way.

Speaker 6 (46:35):
Yeah, uh damon, Probably all right now bye bye then?

Speaker 7 (46:39):
Right, So probably I get it, but I'm saying, but
based upon your current roster and the roster the linebackers
that you currently have on your depth chart, when you're
playing two linebackers at a time, Yeah, where's everybody at?
So we're just accumulating specialists. I'm dead serious. True, Marrio
Overstone is coming back, right, So you're gonna have Maryus Leaf,

(47:01):
Al Shamar James, Kenneth, Murray, Logan Wilson, Jamary who else?
I say, Mary, I can't even tell everybody. You got
like five or six dudes at that one position. Two
can get on the field. They don't play three linebackers.
They played two at most sometimes one. So with all

(47:22):
of this being said, you know what I'm saying, like,
why are we accumulating linebackers?

Speaker 5 (47:26):
All of this being said, I think we've all been
up here. We've sat up here, We've had the debate,
We've had the argument where we want edge rushers, you
guys want defensive tackles, but we all kind of agree
that you need something up front. You need something on
your defensive line in order to make.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
This all go.

Speaker 10 (47:44):
Do you feel like yesterday's.

Speaker 12 (47:46):
Was that safety? Also?

Speaker 5 (47:47):
Yeah, you might need one of those two probably the
pre state cover safety.

Speaker 6 (47:51):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I get it. I get it you
need multiple spots.

Speaker 5 (47:55):
But do you feel like they're done now based off
of what yesterday gave you and the way that they
gave you confidence from the performance against Arizona.

Speaker 12 (48:03):
God, I hope not.

Speaker 8 (48:04):
I hope there's more moves to be made. Please don't
tost those first round.

Speaker 6 (48:07):
Picks though, Keep the first rounder.

Speaker 12 (48:09):
Keep them, yeah, hold them like your children. Please.

Speaker 7 (48:13):
I said this yesterday last night on the postgame show.
I think last night's loss has an impact on the
aggressiveness of the front office.

Speaker 6 (48:22):
I think had they won, I.

Speaker 12 (48:23):
Think they would have been more inclined.

Speaker 7 (48:25):
I would think there would be more inclined to be
more aggressive today because they would have a greater incentive
to push towards the playoffs.

Speaker 6 (48:32):
Yeah. Now, I think that you're.

Speaker 11 (48:33):
Like, eh, I were looking at late round pigs, possible comps,
things like that. I can agree with that.

Speaker 5 (48:40):
And I thought what Jerry Jones said on one O
five three the Fan was interesting this morning. He said,
I don't have the time to have a bad time, yep.

Speaker 6 (48:48):
And he said that, he said, I'm not going to
wager the future.

Speaker 5 (48:52):
He did clean it up after the fact, he was like,
I don't have time to sit here because of my age.
He quoted it and allow for seasons to pass by,
and he said, I'm very aware of that. But he
also said, I have the discipline to not hamstring the organization.
This is paraphrasing, of course, tough to go into the future.
So he's in a tough spot one way or the other.

(49:14):
But I think you're right. I think if you win
that game and you're at five hundred and your offense
rebounds in the way that we anticipated the offense to
rebound in, then maybe you're.

Speaker 6 (49:22):
Able to push the chips table.

Speaker 5 (49:25):
However, your offense is they've, for lack of a better turn,
laid an egg for two straight weeks. And when we
were talking about the trades and we were talking about
this opportunity for Dallas, it was you don't want to
waste this elite level offense for a bad defense.

Speaker 6 (49:42):
And now they.

Speaker 5 (49:44):
Exactly now the offense doesn't look like it has over
the first couple of.

Speaker 6 (49:47):
Weeks of the season. Other than Javonte.

Speaker 11 (49:49):
I mean, he's he's he doesn't have time for a
bad time, but damn it, he's having a bad.

Speaker 6 (49:54):
Time right now.

Speaker 5 (49:56):
Twenty seven to seventeen Cowboys fall to the Cardinals each week.
We're going into the bye week everybody, which means we
only have one more show this week. It's tomorrow, and
we're gonna take your phone. Yeah, we're we're gonna take
your phone calls. We're gonna have it's today. Of course,
was supposed to be talking Tuesday, but it's after a
Monday game.

Speaker 10 (50:15):
We're gonna have on the Wire Wednesday.

Speaker 6 (50:18):
How about that?

Speaker 12 (50:18):
Did you just come up with that?

Speaker 5 (50:20):
I said it earlier, but then I kind of refined
it a little bit.

Speaker 10 (50:23):
But yeah, I came up with it this morning. Nice
on the wire Wednesday.

Speaker 5 (50:26):
Toilet height eight eight, five, five two two nine seven
Give us a call tomorrow. We're gonna talk to you
going into the bye week for Patrick no c Walker,
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Speaker 10 (50:39):
I'm Kyle Yoman saying so long from Talking Cowboys.

Speaker 6 (50:42):
We'll talk to you tomorrow.

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