Save The Last Dance (2001) - Couch Sex, Basic Rhythm & a 9 PM Audition - That Aged Well

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can I tell you about an ad that I heard
on this very podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Sure you get ads, I do get ads.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
I do, I do get ads. Okay, it's a dog
food ad and it's a dialogue between two people, okay,
and one person says, is your dog's food human grade
or feed grade? And they go on they say feed
grade is meant for cattle and livestock that can only
live a few years. And the other person says, this
one's human grade. Wow, Can I have some?

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Are they gonna eat it?

Speaker 1 (00:27):
That's that's that is that's the implication, Like the dog
food's so good. The owner is like, you know what, good?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yum? For real?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
For real though, for real? Though this this cow liver.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
My doctor has told me I don't eat enough protein.
Maybe that's how I do it?

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Just alpo.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Maybe farmer's friend is now my friend too.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Do you think the dog food that Crystal Connors Ain't
and Showgirls was human grade?

Speaker 2 (00:52):
No, that bitch was eating puppy chow, the actual kibble,
breaking your teeth if you had to, would you eat
dog food or cat food if you had to pick?

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Oh, it's wet we're talking the West. Yes, the wet
food in my experience. The dog wet food smells better
yes than the cow.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
I was gonna say if we had the same like yes,
because cat food smells horrible, like really horrible, and dog
foods sometimes every once in a while it kind of
looks like steak.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Throw it in a frying pan. Every time, when I
feed Oliver in the morning, I have I have a
little spoon and I because he doesn't get a whole can,
so I have to scoop some out. And I swear
this has never happened. But I'm so used to cooking,
and usually when I cook, you like taste, and I'm like,
one of these days you're going to use it. I'm
going to just absent mindedly put this in my mouth
and then I'm going to scream at the top of

(01:47):
my lugs.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Hey, Paul America, And this is that aged well yesterday's
pop Culture.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Today dance movie August.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I want to dance with somebody, with somebody I know
they couldn't see the jazz hands. You think the listeners
felt them a thousand percent?

Speaker 1 (02:21):
They felt the jazz hands.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Right, I'll intro that with like, full chested jazz hands, full.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Chested yes, what is the over under on the number
of times this month that I'm going to sing. God,
I'm a dancer so many times A dancer dance.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Too many times?

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, conservatively seventy six.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Don't ruin my favorite month, Dance Month.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Don't worry, Erica, I can ruin this one. We are
mere weeks away at this point from Spooky Movie Month,
followed by Classics Movie Month, followed by Holiday movie.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Just what I think that nothing can beat those like
three last months of the year. We fucking kill it
with dance dance movie. Look, spoiler. Last month was slog
for me. I'm not gonna lie, it's not It wasn't
my month.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
It's fine.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
This month is for me. I love a fucking dance movie.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
All right. Before we get to the first dance movie
of the month, though, Erica, we have five star Apple
podcast reviews. Erica, do you want to read the first one?

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Sure thing? This first review comes from Diane five one
seventy nine. In case anyone needs to know her pin
code for her ATM.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I think that's her birthday, say it? She is almost
exactly our age.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
No, no, no, pretty sure that's the pin code for
at best. Though, whenever she's in a hotel room. That's
what's going in the scene. Oh yeah, just say it,
Just say it, Diane writes, I've got a golden podcast.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Do it right, I've got a golden podcast.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Who needs a Wonka bar when you can have this
podcast as a prize instead. I'm not sure when I
last saw a recent movie. I love the hilarious recaps
and analysis of movies from my youth. I love Paul
and Erica, even though they don't share my affinity for
I've got a golden tick and song. Wonka is my

(04:09):
favorite slot machine to play, and the song makes my
heart sore when the Opa Loompa feature is activated.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
That's so specific.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
I love this person so much. Diane, you're the best.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Diane. Are you in Atlantic City or Vegas?

Speaker 2 (04:23):
You're in Oh? I want her to be in Atlantic City.
I wanted to be an Atlantic City friend. I wanted
to be a Jersey girl, but it could this could
be I'm in love.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
We're the Jersey Girl.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Ye, no joke. I was going to open the top
of this episode with Dancing in the Dark. I love
that song and I don't have it in me straight.
I started. I've started to do the Springsteen voice. I
was like, I don't have it.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
I don't have it. Not today, Not today, Satan, not today.
We have one more review for today. This is from
short Worker, and they write love it. I really enjoyed
this podcast. I was hooked by the episode on Willy
Wonka and the Factory. I love the banter, and even
though there is some talk that is off topic, it's
not too much. Some other podcasts been half the show

(05:07):
or more talking about politics, which is annoying.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
We only spend about five minutes talking about politics.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
And then we become too depressed and move on.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
And then we move on. I don't think anyone's like,
wonder what their thought is.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
That's my that's my take on it. I'm like, no
one's listening to this and be like they might be
like they might be getting getting for both sides.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, who knows. Maybe they're fair and balanced.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
So I appreciate the funny back and forth and for
the great review of the movie. Thank you for being great.
You have a subscriber for life. Ah well, this this
does put me off Presidential Movie Month because I don't
want to upset short Worker.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
I was gonna, yeah, I was gonna suggest we do
right wing as.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Possible movie by Canal legislators that work month. Oh wait,
there's no movies.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
There's no movie. Aaron Sorkin wrote something.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
I'm sure at some point some fantasy short worker. Diane
five one seventy nine, Thank you so much that you
both love Willie Wanka and the Chocolate Factory. We can
we can place about where we are in reading these reviews,
because apparently these came out right after we did Willy
Wank on the Chocolate.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Factory on the podcast, like what like five seven years.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Ago something like that. I don't know. Time has no meaning.
If you would like a that age bel tope bag,
please go ahead, give us a shout out, let us
know it's is you, and I'll send it off for you. Erica.
What is the dance movie that we are first doing
for this month?

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Oh my god, today's film, you guys. Today's film is
the two thousand and one Coming of age drama dance
slash dance film Save the Last Dance.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Save the Last Dance, which before we even get started to.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Paul was voguing. By the way, as I would say,
I was trying so hard to pay to not break,
but Paul was giving me the full fucking vogue and
it was everything.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
But does that title make any sense? No, it doesn't
no sense.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Right, No, that's gonna happen a lot this month. Yeah,
we're gonna get a lot of things that don't make
any fucking sense. When you try to shoehorn the world
of dance into any logical storyline, it just doesn't. Like,
it doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yes, and Save the Last Dance. The song is so
so creepily threatening when you really think about it. But
don't forget who's taken you home? Arms you're gonna be
oh d Save the Last Dance?

Speaker 2 (07:21):
I guess it? Okay, weirdo? Can I just maybe go
home with my girlfriend? I?

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Actually, I genuinely so much live all those.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Like weird, misogynistic songs from the fifties, like it just fine,
it's fine, whatever, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
By the drifters, shut up, different time, all right. Save
the Last Dance was requested by Parker, Robin Christy, Laurie Mikey, Aaron, Danielle,
Chris and Meghan Another, Laurie Miggi, Emily Ellen, Austin RuSHA,
Mary Melissa Another, Emily Alase, another Melissa Cee end Amanda.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
This was so requested, y'all. This was the winner win
Winter Chicken Dinner A deluge. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah. This movie was written by Dwayne Adler and Cheryl Edwards.
It was directed by Thomas Carter and stars Julia Stiles,
Sean Patrick, Thomas, Kerry Washington, Fredro or Freedro Star. I'm
not sure to say that first name, Bianca Lawson and
Terry Kinney. I think it does bear just pointing out
before we go on, Hm, this was directed by a

(08:21):
black man. I think that is good for everyone to know.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Oh good, that's that is actually you know what that
does help help?

Speaker 1 (08:28):
It helps us.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
This movie does not age as poorly as you would
think given the like if you just read the logline,
I'm actually spoiler, I'm pretty fine with it.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Basically, I agree, I think it. I don't know that
age is well, but you can see all the ways
it's really trying, and it's it's almost like that whole
thing where like friends want to glad Award like friends
at the first lesbian wedding ever on TV and now
we're like friends is super homophobic or like, Yeah, this
movie was definitely a step forward.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
It was pushing the needle.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
In representation and it should be celebrated in honor for that,
even if some things make me want to curl up
and die when I hear them.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Now, yeah, some of it is so like retrograde, but
also at the same time, they're like trying something. Hey man,
you've got to get a movie through the studio system. Exactly,
it's not easy. Carrie Washington was working as a substitute
teacher when she booked Save the Last Dance. That's amazing.
I love that. Can you imagine, like, Carrie Washington, is
your is like English sub for today? You know? She tried,

(09:24):
she was. She wasn't like, let's watch the movie. She
was like, what chapter of Little Women are you on?
Open your books? Were getting into it?

Speaker 1 (09:30):
She didn't when nature calls to her summer school classes.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
That was not, by the way, a substitute teacher. That
was the teacher teacher, that was the main ass teacher.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Remain's one of my favorite stories. I will bring it
up every chance I get.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
She apparently made so little money on this job on
Dave the Last Dance, and she had to go back
to uh substitute teaching after the film finished. She did, however,
switch to elementary school subbing, as she had high school
students showing up to her classes to quote unquote watch
Shanil teach French. Excellent, excellent, everything about this.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Every high school student who did that kudos well done.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Also, of course that bitch top French. Of course she
did Washington, You magnificent woman.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Erica Save the Last Dance has a fifty four percent
critical rating on Rotten Tomatoes and a fifty nine percent
audience score, and has a fifty eight percent critical rating
on Cherry Picks.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
I think it's a little more enjoyable than a fifty
nine percent. Look, I get it. Dance movies are not
for everyone, sure, and I am deeply in the pocket
of big dance. So like, honestly, you give me a
few good dance scenes and I'm happy. I'm happy like
like a pig and shit.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
So it made you happy in this movie because I
didn't think that, you know what it was?

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Honestly, truly, it wasn't even that like the dancing was
so good because it wasn't like a step up situation.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Well what could be? Because step up is special.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Because step up films are excellent because they hire dance,
professional dancers.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
And the like cannot act except for Channing Tatum and
then they're like, try acting and see what happens.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
But the dance scenes are spectacular in this one. They
hired professional actors yea to then teach them how to dance.
So you're right, genuinely, it's not as like it's not
directly in my wheelhouse. But I love the effort.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
I do.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
I am here for the effort absolutely.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
I would actually say, all this is a little low
critically like it. It's a very silly movie, but like
it's one of those ones that like its heart's very
much in the right place. I don't know, fifty fourth
to see feels low to me. I would probably give
it like a sixty five percent critical rating. I'd be
like the charm of Sean Patrick Thomas and Kerrie Washington.
It's gonna float a lot of stuff. And Julia Styles

(11:36):
as well, like actress or movie star. I think Julia
Styles has the movie star more than the actress in
this movie. I think she's a better actress now than
she was back then.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, she's a little flat in this movie, but I
think yes, charisma either, Paul, I don't think she's either
of those things. I love yes, charisma, I like her.
I just she's she's never like impressed me. I have
to say, she's never blown me away.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
No, But but in this movie, like I do for Sarah,
like there is something about her and it's not like
forgive me, like the depth of performance that I do
like root for her. Yeah, and I like her and
like and Sarah makes mistakes and I forgive Sarah for
making mistakes. So like to me, that means like there's
an X factor in Julia styles that I just like Erica.

(12:17):
When did you first see Save the Last Dance?

Speaker 2 (12:20):
I think probably like ten years ago, maybe.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Like, okay, it's kind of been a odd time.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Would not have seen this in the theater. I don't
know if I knew I was like into dance movie honestly,
I swear to god, it's the Step Up movie that
like made me realize how much I love dance movies.
You would have thought like Footloose or Dirty Dancing for
when I was a kid, would have done that and liked.
I don't think it was until I saw A Step
Up in the movie theater and I was like, oh
my god, I want to watch every dance movie ever made.

(12:47):
I don't honestly remember why I saw it. It was
on TV and I was like, all right, I'll watch it,
and I thought it was fine. That was so stupid. Yeah,
but in the best way. I think that's that was
the first and only time I'd seen it, and now
yesterday that was the second time. How about you.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
I had never seen this movie. Weirdly, I don't know
why I didn't see it. This is very much my wheelhouse.
I should I should have seen this movie. I have
to presume it was like on this on the docket
to see and I got distracted.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
And one, we're busy, We're busy.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
We're in college.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Were full aid, I'm out of college, even like we're
full ass adults at this point. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah, So i'd never seen it before. I basically i'd
seen like all of the dance scenes, just because I mean,
there's a there's a whole SNL sketch about the final
dance scene in this movie. At this point, it's pretty
it's pretty iconic.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, And I enjoyed it by and large. Like I said,
there's some really cringey two thousand and one moments, but
the movie's trying something and I respect it, and I
was never bored. No, it did make me wonder why
Sean Patrick Thomas isn't a bigger star, because I think
he's He and Kerry Washington, for me, were the two
that like popped.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yes, I have a thousand percent agree.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
I looked up his IMDb. He actually has worked very.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Steadily because he had had this same attorney where I
was like, why don't I see this guy everywhere? He's
so hot? Yeah, and spoiler alert, he's aged really beautiful,
Like he looks hot still.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah, he's like even hotter now than he was two
thousand and one.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Get ugly or like like you're like, oh, I guess
you're a character actor now, buddy, Like, no, no, he's
still super hot. He does like like procedurals. Yeah, he
does like TV shows that you and I don't watch,
which is why we don't know him.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, And I literally wonder. I always think when people
do that, they're like, you know what I have, I've
done this. I want to be an actor, but I
also want to have a life and I'm going to
go get a job where I book three procedural guest
starring roles a year and like do one Hallmark movie.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
But he was in like one I don't remember the
name of it now, so I don't have an in
front of me. But he was in like one procedural
for like two hundred episodes. Really, so he had a job.
Hold on, I'm going to look him up. While you're talking, Paul,
keep going.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Keep talking. I'm not even going to pretend to pay
attention to you. Did you hear that listeners? She said,
I want you to fill silence. Well, I look at this.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Okay, I found it. The TV show is called The
District and I'm wrong. It's eighty nine episodes. That's a
little shit ton and it ran for like four years. Okay,
So like, yeah, that's what he's been doing.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
He made his bank. He's like, I saved, I save
my money. I have a nest egg, I have a
nice house in Los Angeles, and I'm gonna do guest
starring roles and like have a normal fucking life for him.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Also, I didn't realize this. I didn't see this. I
still haven't seen this. But he was in that like
Macbeth that you loved, the Cohen brother remember brother, It's
like one Cohen Brother made that one.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
I did love that movie. All right, Erica. The tagline
for save the Last Dance, Save the Last Dance, Save
the Last Dance, Save that dance. The tagline was the
only person you need to be is yourself.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
You know what? Fine? That works, That works for this bullshit.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
The more of Elvita you can get onto this movie,
the better it is. It's like those it's like this movie,
this movie is those are those? Are those theater nachos
where it's just cheese product like that just poured out
of like a squeeze bottle. Yeah, and you know, you
know it's gonna lead to something horrible in like four hours. Yeah,
but you don't care.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Gastro Intestinal distress is what it's gonna lead to. Yeah, No,
that's perfect. This movie is so cheesy and like exactly
that's it's meant for fourteen year old girls to.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yes, Erica, I really want you to read the iTunes
synopsis for this movie, because I know you haven't read
it yet, and i'd like to get your live reaction
as you read.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
So excited, Have we ready, kids, Here we go. Sarah
wants to be a ballerina, but her dreams are cut
short by the sudden death of her mother.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Okay, so far, so far, so good.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, that's correct. That is what happens in the film.
She moves in with her father, who she has not
seen for a long time in Chicago. Oh no, I
read ahead, I read ahead.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
I'm sorry there from the top of the sentence. Give
the audience the experience you had, Erica.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
She moves in with her father, who she has not
seen for a long time in Chicago, mainly the ghetto.
In the ghetto with her father, Kama, who she has
not seen for a while, Comma in Chicago, Kama, mainly
the ghetto. Are we Are we comfortable saying ghetto?

Speaker 1 (17:03):
I am not. I will only be quoting it.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
I don't feel like this is a ghetto. I feel
like this was written by someone who does not understand
what like working class families live. Like, yeah, I'm like,
they look like my apartment building, you guys. She gets
transferred to a new school where she is the only white.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
She was just reading blind. She didn't read on that one,
and I.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Tried to fix it. My brain was like, there's another
word that we're missing here. I'm gonna read it as written.
She gets transferred to a new school where she is
the only white there, not person, not girl, not transfer,
just white, the only white there. And no, she it's

(17:51):
not true. There's like four other white kids in this
school at least.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yes, they make a point of having a white table
in the lunch room.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
We're like five, that's true. I really did love that though.
How many fucking high schools in this country have a
black lunch table? Like, yeah, they should have a white
lunch table.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Okay, Eric, I'm gonna give you this next sentence is amaze.
I want you to really try to read the words
on the page. Don't fix them, read the words as
they are. Her life, oh.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
God, Okay. Her life takes a turn for the better
when she is friends with Shanil period new sentence later, Comma,
she falls in love with her brother, Comma, Derek.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Now the problem with.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
This is tell them what she's calling in love with
her own brother.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Don't worry, listeners, there's no incest in this movie.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
And I know this was written before AI, so we
cannot blame the robots for this. O human person wrote
this actual synopsis I've never seen, and I've forgive me
for using this phrase. A magical Negro who is also
the main character of the film.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
It's true.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
He is both the main character or one of two,
and the magical black person helping the white person. It's
it is the mental gymnastics they must have done to
create the character of Derek. I understand it, like they
don't want him to have a single flaw because like
the America is what it is, and so they don't
want the black male character to have a single goddamn flaw,

(19:23):
and so he is perfect in every single way. Yeah,
and to the point where he's almost not human.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
I have another actual synopsis for you and the listeners.
Does this movie know there's a difference between dancing hip
hop and dancing to hip hop?

Speaker 2 (19:41):
No?

Speaker 1 (19:41):
No, there's no difference in this.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
He barely understands what ballet is.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
It's barely barely. All right, listeners, stick around. We're gonna
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(20:06):
and then we will come right back and take you
through Save the Last.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Dance, Save the Last Dance, and we're back. Paul, did
you save that last dance for me? I say, I
had one on the table and it's gone good. Don't
tell me the cat ate it again, because I don't
believe you. You have dance all over your face, delicious,

(20:34):
You dance all down your shirt, you filthy pig.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
All right, So Save the Last Dance opens on a
train where Sarah Johnson played by Julia Stiles, is sitting
amongst your bags and staring out a window. She's the
girl on the train, y'all.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, she's forlorn.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
I would say, I'm gonna, I'm actually just gonna stop
right here. I'm gonna I'm gonna put a pin in
everything right now, right away. I will admit this is
very East Coast count content was about to what I'm
about to say. I saw this, I immediately presumed New
Jersey transit.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
I will admit that, okay, and then that's not crazy.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
It's not crazy, FYI, listeners, They're not New Jersey. This
is Chicago. This entire movie takes place within Chicago and
the Chicago suburbs. But we're about to see her flash
back to a Juilliard audition, and I assumed for far
longer than I should have, that this movie was taking
place in New York City, and the amount of notes
I took of being like, that's not New York, that's Chicago.

(21:33):
They're doing Chicago accents before I presume to question my
own assumption, Oh to where they were?

Speaker 2 (21:41):
You know what? That is the journey one's supposed to
take while watching this film. Now, you did it wrong,
but you still took the journey I did. You were like,
you know what, let me challenge my own assumptions about
what I think the world should look like.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
So Sarah is sitting on the train. A very kind
woman comes up. She asks if is a seat taken?
Sarah says no. She moves her bags, Girl, put your
lugs on the legg of track, and the woman notices
a ballet magazine sitting atop her things, and she says, oh,
do you dance? And Sarah says, I used to Jesus
Christy And.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
The woman's like, okay, I guess we're not having a conversation.
Never mind, I've never seen anyone know and someone it before,
but okay.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
So Sarah continues to stare out the window as we
flash back to the extremely recent past. I cannot stress
enough how what is about to happen could not have
taken place more than a month ago. Yeah, we learned
that Sarah used to live in the Chicago suburbs with
her supportive single mother. She was best friends with this girl, Lindsay,

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who is an extremely prayer forward young woman.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
That actress is doing the Lord's work. I'm just gonna
say say because Lindsay has like three lines in the movie.
They are all the lines of like the white girl
who does not understand black culture at all, and she
leans hard to them and they're funny every single time.
She's like, the movie's like punching bag a little bit.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah, Lindsay. At one point, she's with Sarah and Sarah's
about to go to a Juilliard audition. It's like her
last day in school, and she like grabs her hand
and she starts She's like, I'll pray, I'll pray, and
she starts like loudly praying in the public school hallway,
and the look on Julia Styles's face excellent, excellent.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
It's a perfect look of like I'm gonna let you
do this. It seems important to you, but I am
mortified and confused. Yeah exactly, which again, like I'm like,
has this the first time Lindsay's done this?

Speaker 1 (23:29):
It's definitely not. Lindsay's way too comfortable for it to
be the first time. So we learned that Sarah's dream
was to attend Juilliard for dance, and her big audition
is coming up. Her mother promised to take her, but
she wound up needing to work on that day, and Sarah,
being a seventeen or eighteen year old, girls like, come on, mom,
you promised, and she can't go. So she gets herself
to the audition and we see her mother like putting

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her on the bus and saying I will be there
before you take the stage. Sarah's waiting for her mother
in the holding area, but she's called in before her
mother arrives. She starts to dance. Okay, I'm just gonna
say really quickly, U huh. Julia Styles does a lot
of her own dancing in this, not all of it,
but a lot of it, And from what I read,
she took like an intense two months of like dance

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training to try to look as good as she possibly could.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Two months, that's it.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Two months.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
That's not enough time.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
It's simply impossible. If you if Mikhail Barishnikov had never
danced before and you put him in two months of training,
he would not look like a professional dancer after two months.
That is a lifelong pursuit.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Like, they should have black swand this and just put
another fucking dancer in every time they like cut away
from her face.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yes, they should have just done it.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
They should like and that's fine. Like, honestly, that doesn't
bother me when movies do that. No, it's very difficult
to find a ballet dancers who can act. Might I
show you all centricity stage?

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah, Zoe Saldana was an actor who used to dance.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Ballet, Yes, and you can see that. And then the
rest of her castmates excellent dancers.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
So Sarah is dancing, and we cut between her audition
and her mother speeding through the streets of Chicago to
meet her. Sarah stumbles in her audition just as her
mother gets into a fatal car accident. We do meet
the auditioner here and he does not know that her
mother just died.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
But also this actor again, Lord's work because he has
two scenes and the direction is I need you to
be the biggest bitch ever. And he's like done.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
He's like, I know exactly what facial hair to wear
for that.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah, He's like, I know the look I want to have.
I know this sneer I want to have in my
voice when I talk to a child. Yep, I just
really quickly want to have a little PSA right here
at the top of this episode. For those of you
who are still in high school, or for parents of
kids who are still in high school, considering like post
high school dreams, please have a safety school. Juilliard cannot
be her only option because bitch, you're not good enough,

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and it's so awkward to watch her and be like,
I'm going to Juilliard. No, you're not. Juilliard is very hard.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
To get into, famously difficult.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
There are so many dance schools that'll take you, like
or like colleges that have a dance department, and you
can also study to be a veterinarian justin King like girl.
So Sarah arrives.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
In Chicago mainly the ghetto.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Mainly the ghetto, the ghetto. Oh my god, it's so
I'm so uncomfortable, like I'm sweating saying those like what
is that? Anyway? Moving on, she has met at the
bus stop by her jazz musician father Roy played by
Terry Kenny Field just in left like Sam Rock well
that For a minute, I was like, is this is that? No?

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Never mind, I want to say something right now.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
What this movie does to Terry Kenny is not fair
because they they want him to be the guy who
wasn't a bad guy, but wasn't ready to be a
father and wanted to be a musician and was a
shitty father, but is a good guy fundamentally, Yeah, and
they want him to learn to be a good father
over the course of this movie. But because this is

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how they've introduced him, and they give him the line
that's like, oh sorry, I couldn't stick around after the funeral,
had to get back for a gig. He it's impossible,
he can't climb this mountain. He didn't go pick his
daughter up and drive her back to or even go
like take her bags and take the train back with
her to meet him in Chicago Mainland, the ghetto. Mainly,

(27:22):
they have so over peppered the sauce on this guy's
a dick that. I don't think they can get it back.
They need some acid or dairy and the sauce to
like take out the pepper.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
I didn't put together the fact that you're right, he
missed he like left right after the funeral for like
a gig.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah, Like who's shut down the house?

Speaker 2 (27:38):
I mean honestly though, like seeing how he's how he's living, Yeah,
I'm guessing like he needed that money from that gig.
Like he's like, well, I had to pay the rent,
so I needed that fucking gig. Yeah, who shut down
that house?

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (27:52):
What happened to that house? Maybe they were renting also
in this.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Possibly, but like whatever, there must be some money that
that Sarah and you would think.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
You would think there's like an ant or something that
she could go yeah with a grandparent. Yeah no, no,
just to day. The movie's not interested in any of that.
There's never a line where they're like, your grandparents are
a home, so they couldn't take you in. So Roy
takes Sarah to his apartment. Look, it looks like a
dude who's been living there for thirty years and doesn't
know how to do anything. He has one bedroom that's
set up and another room. I don't understand what this

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other room is.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
I think he has a two bedroom apartment. And because
he's a dude, he just like threw garbage in the
other room and so he's never like he never set
it up. He probably got cheap because the room, like
the paint doesn't finished. It's not just this brick.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
I was gonna say it's exposed. It's not exposed breaking
a hot way in a fun way. It is plaster
has fallen down, yeah, and like has never been fixed.
It's not painted. It looks like there's holes in the floor,
like where mice can get through. He even has a
line where he's like, well, you know, the rent's cheap
and the mice you're friendly.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Yeah, in this.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Apartment, I was like, I hate everything about this. Poor Sarah.
But yeah, So he basically has his daughter sleep.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
On the couch, yeah, on the pull out.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
And again I'm like, you had a month, buddy, Yeah,
she passed away a month ago. You've had it. Even
if you only had two weeks. You could get a mattress,
you could get a bed, like you can try.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
So Roy takes Sarah to her new high school. He's like, oh,
do you want me to come in with you? She's like,
I got it, don't worry about it, Erica. Something is
different about this high school from the high school that
we saw her in earlier. I can't put my finger
on it.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Have you ever been the only white person in a room?

Speaker 1 (29:29):
I had been on the only white person on a
subway car. Oh, okay, like in college at one point,
like I'm going somewhere in Brooklyn or something and like
looking around at me, like.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Oh, I'm I'm the token.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
I'm the token. And it was a very like eye
opening experience for a kid that was like sheltered and
grew up in a mainly white area and like and
it was fine. To be clear, I wasn't terrified or anything.
I was just like, oh, it's is different.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
It actually it's a I feel like it's honestly, I'm
not ketting an experience everyone needs to.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Have, absolutely at some point. It's very helpful.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
I have put myself in that situation a couple of times.
Every time it's because it's not an accident, like the
subway where I've gone to I'm like, I bet I
won't be the only girl at this poetry slam. I bet,
I bet I won't be the only white girl at
this jazz thing. And I'm like, oh no, I'm the
only white girl here and it's fine, and like I
always walk in being like, well, it's not a big deal,

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and it isn't obviously, but you do notice it when
you're a odd person out and it's it's absolutely the
most eye opening experience. I cannot stress this enough. Folks,
if you are a white person in America, put yourself
in a situation where you are one or two of
the only white people in the space, just for fun,
just to try it out. I'm telling you, Like and again,

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literally no one pays attention to.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Me, no one cares.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Everyone ignored me. And every time, like I've been in
that situation like five or six times, because I keep
putting myself in that situation.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Stop booking yourself into the black, queer, lesbian spaces.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Ericat I'm gonna gonna win at the Apollo one time.
I'm gonna It's crazy how you immediately clock it. And
of course, like my black friends were all like duh, yeah, duh,
you fucking dumb cunt, and I'm like, yeah, I know,
but until you live it, you don't realize. You don't
realize how like odd it is and how eye opening

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it is. By the way, poetry slams are fucking lit,
So do just do that.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
All right? So Sarah, who seems to be a pretty
self asshored kid, gets to the office. She's guided to
her first class, which turns out to be English. I
would like to give kudos to the filmmaker for making
this a rowdy high school.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yes, we are not getting a lean on me situation
where the high school is like a literal warzone, like
like literal war zone.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
It is a very normal high school where the kids
are boisterous in the hallways, as they aren't all kinds
of high schools.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
By the way, this high school, even though it's called
Wheatlee High in the film, it is supposed to be
Wendell Phillips Academy, which is a real high school in Chicago.
And because there's a moment where she's walking through the
halls and she sees like a picture of like Dinah
Washington and Marla Gibbs and Sam Cook who all went
to this high school. And I was like googling it.
I'm like, did they really all go to the same
high school. They's sure as shit did, and Wendell Phillips

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Academy had an insane number of celebrities that went there,
including nat King Cole. All right, like, it's a cool play,
but the film I should mention is not filmed there,
and in the movie it's called Wheatley. But apparently this
was the idea. Yeah, the inspiration behind this high school gotcha?

Speaker 1 (32:35):
All right, So she's in English class. She impresses the
teacher by giving a smart answer about in Cold Blood.
She talks about how Capoti mixed true crime with his imagination,
but then she quickly has a run in with Dereck
Reynolds played by Sean Patrick Thomas. He manages to outshine
and embarrass her for her blind spots. Right. He points
out that Capoti's true accomplishment was bringing crime out of
the ghetto and into white society, right because he said

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black writers did the whole like mixing true crime with
the imagination thing already, but nobody read them, and then
Truman Capoti got credit for it, and she's like, people
read the black writers. She's like, yeah to you, and
she has nothing to say.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
I would have lied, honestly.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Oh yeah, you've got to lie that one some one calls.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Me out that hard. I would have been like have
I of course yes.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
And then skip the next class on directly to library
and just mainline James Baldwin the fucking.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Thing James Baldwin ever wrote, and be like, I know,
James Baldwin. Sir. Sarah heads to her locker. She puts
her backpack on the ground behind her, which even in
my school we didn't do that.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Even if you're not in a place where it's you know,
it might be stolen. Bitch, that's a tripping hazard.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah, like, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (33:40):
What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (33:41):
You have no spatial awareness. You're a dancer. Your whole
personality is I'm a dancer.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
She has the same amount of spatial awareness as Sean Conner
does as James Bond, where people are constantly sneaking up
on her.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
A cool girl Shan Niel played by Carrie Washington.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Okay, can I interrupt you really quick? Sure? May, I'm
going to read you Kerry Washington's opening line, and I'm
not going to be putting any spin on this. I
want everyone I see the trap that's being laid for me,
and I will be saying this as whitely as I
possibly can, because I am practically translucent.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Because you won't. You won't be saying it any whiter
than Carry Washington does.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Kerry Washington says, opening line, Yo, La Trees, mister Jackson's
civic class, you will have a pop quiz. Do not
front on it. It's mad hard.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
I that Yeah, that wrote that.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
An adult wrote it. An adult took all the nineties
slag he could. He put it in a salad spinner.
He pressed it three times. He threw the magnetic poetry
onto the table. He's like, Kerry Washington, say this.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
He gave it to his thirteen year old Sunderraid and
the kid couldn't care less. And he's like, yeah, that
sounds right.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Yeah, that's exactly how kids talk.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah, that's fine, dad, don't worry about it. So Shaneil
walks behind Sarah and takes the backpack.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Sarah turns around, her bag is gone, oh no, I've
only been here a minute and already I've been robbed.
She spins around and Shanil is standing right next to her,
like a few lockers down, and she's holding the bag
out and she's like, be careful like, it's really easy
to get robbed around here. You got to pay attention.
Sarah thanks Shanil for being kind. She turns back to
her locker, and then when she turns back around to

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continue to talk to Shanil, Shaneil is gone.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Yep, we cut to the lunch room. Sarah is as
the new girl is trying to find a lunch table.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Who hasn't had this struggle.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Look, forget Saving Private Ryan, forget the first ten minute
of Saving Private Ryan. This is the this is the
worst scene of American cinema.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, the scene in Mean Girls when Katie's trying to
find a table. Like we've all seen this a million times.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Yeah, I mean, it's horrible enough when you're not the
new kid and just got into a fight with your
friend and then you're like oh oh, it's like oh
my god.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Oh no, and then you don't have you have to
find a secondary group of friends and they all know
why you're there, and they know you're gonna leave them.
You're gonna ditch them the minute your other friends take
you back.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Uh huh. Yeah. So she spots the white table as
we reference, there's the white table, and then she sees
Shanil sitting with a bunch of her friends, and she
makes her way over to that table. Sarah, good for you.
I have a question for you, though. Does the movie
pos it a little bit that Sarah does not see color.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Later in the film a little bit? Yeah, yes, But
I think also that's where this movie moves the needle,
is that Sarah does see color. She genuinely does not
give a shit. Yeah, she doesn't seem afraid, do you
know what I mean? There's a version of this movie
that could be made where like the white girl walks
into the black school and his like eyes wide and
like clutching her backpack to her and like acting acting

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like a fucking idiot, And that's not Sarah Creara. Sarah
is miserable because of all the shit that's gone on
in her life. So she's not exactly thrilled to be
anywhere right now. But yeah, she's She's walking through this
high school as normally as one would in any situation.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Agreed. So she makes her way to Shanil's table, but
the last seat is taken just as she arrives. To
be clear, not a blocking situation, just bad luck, bad timing.
She turns away but not before Shanil notices her trying
to like make a connection, and she walks away. She
winds up at a table full of nerds, and Shanil
goes over and rescues her. She's like, come on, stand up,

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come sit with us, but provide you never sit this
table again. And they're black nerds, which is nice representations.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Oh my god, and that black nerd was super funny.
That kid, she sits down and he is like angry
at the world. He's like the Internet before the Internet
basically is that kid. He's like, our entire generation is
completelyda from the neck up. It's like nobody even reads anymore.
And she's like, my name is Sarah, Will you calm
the fuck down?

Speaker 1 (37:31):
So Shanil brings Sarah over to her group of friends.
She introduces her around, and Sarah sits down, and that
makes the very bold choice, And this is the first
real rookie era that Sarah makes. She makes the bold
choice of spotting Derek and proclaiming him an asshole. Now look, kids, PSA,
for this episode, you're anew in a group, You're trying
to make connections. You don't have opinions for no less

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than two weeks. You smile and nod, and they may
express opinions that you don't agree with and make you
decide you don't want to be friends with them, and
then you can remove yourself from that situation. But you
don't come in look at a stranger and be like
that person over there that I don't know your relationship to,
that's an asshole.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yeah that was a mistake. Yeah, you agree with what
they say basically, and they're like that girl sucks, that
guy sucks. You're like done and done. They're on my
shit list.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, I hate them?

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Who else do I hate? You point out everyone I
hate in this room?

Speaker 1 (38:21):
To me, you are a sympathy hater. You tell me
who I hate.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
What grudges do I need to hold for the rest
of y'all?

Speaker 1 (38:26):
I'm ready. I can take. I am at less holding
the world on my shoulders. Only the world is your grudges.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Can we talk real quick about Shanil and her friends?

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Whatever could you want to talk about? Okay?

Speaker 2 (38:38):
There are three white girls in this entire school according
to this movie, right, there's a table white kids. It
seems to be mostly boys and one girl. Maybe I
missed another girl in there. It could be another girl
in there, but I just clocked one girl there right,
The other white girl at the school is already at
Shanil's table. Her name is Diggy. And then Chanil like

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plucks Sarah out and it's like, you can come sit
with us. Does Chanil run a club for wayward white girls?
Does Shanil run like an outreach program? She's like, I
will take the cool white girls, of which there are
two at the school, and I will integrate them into
my society and will guide them into my group, and

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I will guide them through the halls of Wheatley High School.
Because I was like, this is weird that she is
so nice to Sarah.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah, and not only that, but the girl playing Diggy
who does a good job, but she goes for it
like this is a This is a white girl that
is fully ensconced in the black culture around her, yeah,
and views herself as absolutely part of it.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
She's not doing like a Seth Green and yeah, can't
hardly wait, Like she's not overplaying it and so she's
doing to be fair, Seth Green was supposed to be
overplaying it. She's doing it in a way where it's
like she just kind of fits in with everyone else.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
And also, this character is in a community where it
is majority black, so her being of that culture would
make more sense than the people that in my suburban
high school where there was like there's like a I
don't know, ten percent black population and everyone's playing at it.
That was problematic.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Problematic. Yeah I had both of those growing up, in
both situations, but like, yes, yes, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
So in any case, Sarah calls Derek an asshole, Shaneil
turns around and she's like, you're talking about my brother,
and Sarah's like, oh fuck, and she knows, like that's fine,
I don't care. She Neeel's cool about it.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
She's cool well because like a sister would think her
brother's an asshole. There is a crucial thing though, Sarah
goes he thinks he's so smart and so cute, and
it's immediately it's like, oh, you're into him. That's why
you're so mad at him for like besting you in
that scene earlier, because you want to quook him.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Fair.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
For God's sake, anyone who is of a proper age
who saw that kid? I mean, and Patrick Thomas is
twenty four or something, if.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
He's a minute when they Like. Paul and I both
had a conversation off Mike about this earlier. Were like,
Shneil and Derek are both Best Kid nominees, but we
can't actually nominate them for Best Kid because the actors
playing them are adults, and it's weird. It's weird to
call like thirty year old Kerry Washington best Kid. I
refuse to do it.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
She not once does she appear day less than twenty
five movie.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Meanwhile, we cut to Derek and his friends Snooky the
class clowns.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
This is not the movie's fault. They couldn't have known.
They couldn't have known that Snooky would become famous on
Jersey Shore.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
I kind of wonder if, like that, if that woman
took her name from this movie, if this is a
favorite movie of hers and she's like Snooky, I'm taking Snookie.
Snookie is one of my favorite lines in the movie,
when he's introducing himself to Sarah. Later he goes, they
call me Snook, the Kuci crook everything. And then we
meet Malachi Kai played by fred Rostarr, who is just

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at a juvie. He's had a life, He's got a
hard life. This kid, this.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Kid's he's a rapper. He's pretty good in this movie.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
He's I thought so too. I did the same thing
where I was like, who are you wife? And I
seeing you before. It's because he's a rapper. Derek is
kind of straight laced. Derek is the smart one. He's
gonna go to college. He's gonna be a doctor. That's
his trajectory, right. He wants to go to Georgetown specifically,
so like he's got high hopes. So it seems like
these two lifelong friends are starting to become an odd

(42:17):
fit for each other. It's clear there's like a lot
of love and there's closeness between them and loyalty between
them because they grew up together. And we're gonna find
out later there's another reason maybe why Derek feels like
he needs to be loyal to Kai.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Homosexuality.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
I wish, I wish. We find out that Kai just
came back to school. He had been serving a sentence
for a crime he had committed and now he's back
in school and Derek is trying to keep him on
the straight and arrow.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Yep. We cut to that night at dinner. Roy tries
to be a dad, right, he tries to bond with
Sarah by offering her a Swanson Hungry Man frozen dinner.
She's like, no, thank you. He invites her to come
see him play that night and then they can get
dinner afterwards, and she says it's a school night, Roy
and heads out for his gig. He says, you can
eat her naughtyat and I'll be back when I'm back,

(43:04):
and like, look, I know, parenting is incredibly hard, the
hardest job in the world being a parent. You never off,
you never have vacation day. Your heart is walking around
outside of your body. It's difficult, but.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Beautiful way of putting that thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Yeah yeah, but some things are easy, and not saying
you can eat her naughty I'll be back when I'm
back is one of the things you just shouldn't say
as a parent.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Just man, just try try. The next day, Sarah runs
into Shanil, Derek, and Snook. This is when we get
that great line from Snook on her way into school
and she and Derek have another moment. Then we cut
to gym class, where Sarah impresses Shaneil and her friends
with her abilities on the balance.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
But I love, I love that this school has the
same view of gymnastics as Rydell High.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Every every high school in these movies has gymnastics. What
did we've run out of money?

Speaker 1 (43:53):
I did not have gymnastics in high school, Jim, I
know that.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Dear Dade County School District. How dare you rob me
of my gymnastic dreams? This made me laugh. There's a
girl and they're like not in their circle, but like adjacent.
Her name is Nicky. She is played by Bianca Lawson.
She is a fucking twelve. She is a model basically
walking around this school and she looks at Sarah on

(44:17):
the balance beam and she's doing fine, She's doing some
basic balance beam nonsense, and she looks threatened. Nicky is
threatened by Sarah, and I'm like, no, in no planet
with NICKI look at Sarah on the balance beam and
be like, oh no, there's a new hot shit girl

(44:37):
in town. No, what are you talking about? They're just
trying to shoehorn this, Like yeah, this animosity between these
two girls into this movie so hard and it makes
no sense. Later on they're gonna they're gonna tell us
a reason why, but like there was a better way
of doing it.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Well, because it doesn't make sense. In this scene, they're
gonna wind up having a conflict over Derek, right, which
the fundamental like idea that Nicky used to it. Derek
wants to get back with him, and now he's interested
in Sarah as a point of conflict. That's fine, but
like now she's just a girl who happens to be
like pretty good on the balance beam and Nicky's like, how.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Oh no, that's my thing. No it's not. We've never
seen nick can a balance beam. We will never see her. Like,
what is the problem?

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Being good on the balance beam can't be your thing
if you're also a cool girl. I'm sorry. I love gymnastics. Yeah,
it's just not not in high school unless you're some
mo fucking biles.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
It's not cool. It's not cool. Yeah, and dude, the
movie I think smartly does it engage in like the
I don't like white women.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
So after class she kneels like, hey, you were really
good on the balance beam and Sarah's like, yeah, I
used to dance ballet and she kneels like, oh, you
should come with us the steps, which, again, every fucking
high school movie has this the local club where somehow
teenagers are just allowed. And I know this movie they're
getting fake id's yea, but the entire senior class is there. Yes,

(45:55):
the entire senior class is in this fucking club. So no,
you can't just be like it's it's a regular dance
club with regular adults, because I did that as a kid.
I was able to get into regular dance clubs with
regular adults, and it was fucking weird and you had
thirty year old men hitting on you and yes, creepy
as fuck, and that's not what's happening.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Instead, this is this is a kid's club, all right.
So after school, Shanil asks Snookie to help Sarah get
into the club. So he's like, all right, give me
twenty bucks, and Sarah's like why and he says it's
for a fake ID, and he starts to spin into
this like kind of monologue about how she assumes she
was gonna get it on her looks. She cuts him
off with Snook, you talk a lot of shit for
someone who never says anything, and Shaneil and Derek love it, right,

(46:35):
so Sarah is validated. Sarah gives Snookie a twenty dollars
bill and when Derek says that steps ain't no square dance.
She brags that she'll dance in circles, probably around him,
and Derek laughs. Right, so this like peacocky, braggadocious energy.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Yeah, these kids are great. Next night, Sarah heads to
Shaneil's apartment. It's warm, it's homy. We find out a
little bit about Shanil and Derek's home life. They seem
to not have parents. There's an older woman they call
Mama Dean who takes care of them. I'm not sure
if that's their grandmother or just like.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
A foster mother or something.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Yeah, like someone in their in their life who takes
care of them. We also meet Chanil's baby, Christopher, who's
being cared for by Mamma Dean, mostly so that Chanil
can still go to school and like have a semi normal,
like teenage existence.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
The girls head out and like, I am so glad
this happen because I'd forgotten the scene in this movie.
And Sarah shows up to this apartment wearing a tank
top with a matching cardigan and like a pencil skirt
and boots and like, there's a miamiist to my brain
where I'm like, if you're going clubbing, you'd wear the
sluttiest thing you own. That's how you go clubbing is
you wear the absolute trashiest, street walkeryest thing you own.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Is that why you're wearing that tubetop? Are you going out?

Speaker 2 (47:48):
I'm going out after that? Yeah, I'm wearing the tubetop
and nothing else.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
No, you know, like a tubtop can become a skirt,
can pull it down.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Yeah faro, Yeah, my ass my asshole is on this chair.
My bear asshole is touching the chair that I'm sitting
on right now. But yeah, it's so like, I'm like,
that's when you're wearing to go dancing. What's wrong with you?
So I'm so glad that she asked Shanil and Saniel's like, yeah,
you look fine because she's trying to be nice. And
then she's like no really and Saniel's like, okay, no,

(48:17):
you don't look good. Yeah, we have to fix this.
So they do a very quick like makeover, honestly all
Shanil does, and it works. It's enough is she takes
the cardigan off, she wraps Sarah's hair in it so
it looks like a head wrap, and then she gives
her like like a headscarf and then she gives her
her her whoop earrings. Yeah, so that Sarah looks slightly
more like a teenage girl and not like someone's actuary.

(48:40):
They go into the crowded club, Shanil takes a moment
to like, there's a guy who grabs her in the
ass as she's walking by. She grabs him by the ball,
squeezes tight and the guy's like, okay, okay, okay, you
got it. You got it, like meaning like I'll leave
you alone, and she goes, got what the right to
pass by your greasy tickle dick self without your paws
on my ass? I love this kid.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
The tickle dick, the insult tickle. I've never heard it,
never heard of it. I've never heard it. And it's
a little bit of a thinker because at first I
was like, well, what is it? Oh? Oh, it's like
just a tickle down there. I can't even feel it
because because you dick so small.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Oh I'm putting that together now. I just thought it
was wordplay, and I do love wordplay. I love the
internal rhymes, and I like better than pickle dick.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Oh, absolutely, tickle dick.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Tickle dick is meaner excellent.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
It's better than fickled dick. Fickle you can't count.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
On honestly, fickle dick could be good dick. It could
still be good dick, but.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
You don't know if it's going to show up.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
What if you grab some guy by the balls to
like to do this to him, and but it's fucking
enormous and you're like, oh, I can't use my backup
tickle dick. I have to think of something else to say.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
A brickle dick, trickled dick.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
You know what, sir, too big? No one wants that.
Put it away, Put it away, put it away, No
one wants that. That's uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Go into sex work immediately, you'll make a million dollars.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
So Sarah is like in awe of her new best friend,
which as anyone should be. She's like, this is such
an upgrade from Lindsay, I can't even say. They go
into the club, they start going around. Sarah officially meets Nicky.
Nicky openly hates her from the jump again, Nikki could
not be more beautiful. Luckily, we find out Shanil also

(50:20):
hates Nicky because Nicky dumped Derek and treated him like shit.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
I want to circle back to another PSA for the
listeners out there. So Sarah again does the thing where
she engages in the conversation in the play by play
in the repartee amongst this group of black women and Diggy,
but Diggy, who's notably not saying anything, just like everyone
can't we be friends?

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Yeah, Diggy has it right.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Yeah, So as a white person, I'm just gonna just
don't police black people's use of whatever slur they want
to use that's pointed at black people. Just don't do
it what they just don't do it? Because Nicki says,
I ain't walking on eggshells just because you brought the
Brady Bunch to the Negro club, and before Shanil can respond,

(51:08):
Sarah says, maybe you came to the wrong spot because
I'm pretty sure there aren't any negroes here.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Too, which I admit I was also like, why are
you talking? Don't talk, Sarah, why are you talking. Luckily
they cut to Shanil and Saniel's like, oh, yeah, she
got you, and I'm like, oh thank god, this went well.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Again. The best kid for Shaneil if she wasn't twenty
seven years old.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Absolutely, she's easily best kid, best best middle aged woman
pretending to be a kid. Yes, absolutely, Now now.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Should she be checking her white friend afterwards? Be like, fy,
that's fine, but again, don't police our language about each other.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
I like maybe maybe she's like at the two strike policy,
she gets one, she didn't one.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
It's fine and it was funny, and she landed on Nikki,
I'm gonna let it go and like and.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Like Sarah doesn't do it again for the rest of
the movie, so like we're just gonna let it. She
kept doing it. Yeah, she was like that white teacher,
you're an avid elementary, Like Jacob, shut up, Like that's
that's a different story.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
I'm trying to figure out. If I had a new friend,
new girlfriend comes in, I introduced her to my friends,
and the first thing she's like, your fuck? How how
how forgiving? Would I be like what what's up? Holmost,
or even worse, if it was a straight male friend
and he was trying to fit in, it's like, yo.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Oh my god, I would actually love to see that.
Can we adopt straight? And we adopt?

Speaker 1 (52:34):
And I was really confident that it wasn't like he
know he loves gay people, he's trying to fit in right,
like he would get the one. I think I would
give him the one.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Well if he's quoting Tricksy and Katya, you know, like Hill,
if he's doing that and they're like, no, no, you
don't understand he's quoting Tricksy and Katya. Can we please
let's adopt a gate a straight man, because we don't
have any inner circle of friends and we really.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
Need we have we have well, we have husbands.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
We have husbands, yeah, but none of them. I know
them all, I love them all. They don't have the balls.
They're never gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
My brother hangs out with us sometimes, but alas he's
he's in old gen X, and I don't think an
older gen X can pull it off.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
I want him to try, I really want him to try.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
I don't think he would. I don't think he'd be comfortable.
My brother was the captain of the football team in
the eighties and he grew up with a little gay
brother who is six years younger than him. And I've
never heard him muse a geysler.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Well, yeah, but not in a good or bad way. No,
if it's in a good way, all right.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
So, so now the club is bumping as the kids say.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
As the children say.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Derek arrives at Steps with Kai and Nicky approaches Derek
right she asked him to dance, and he immediately makes
it clear he has no interest in getting back together
with her after she dumped him for a college boy.
He just shuts her right down.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Yeah, she should be dating college man. That's how attractive this.
She should be dating like a billionaires do.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
I want need to write a letter of what caution
to Beyonca Lawson to be, Like, if you see a
Cuba or a Guayan woman staring at you.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
From across trunk room, deeply in love.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
With you, I want you to just calmly stand up
and walk out and then get to a city place.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Am I deeply Lawson? No? Yes, maybe shut up.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
So Sarah and Shaneil go to the bar. They run
into Kenny. Kenny is Christopher's father who Shaneil is pissed
out because he's kind of a dead beat dad. Not
really a deadbeat dad, but like he's a kid. He's
not succeeding at the whole father thing right, Like it's
not like he just disappeared, but he's like I had
to work, I couldn't pick him up, but I didn't
call it like it's it's all the bullshit. She also
unfortunately finds Kenny irresistible. Fair enough. The guy's good looking.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
It's good looking, man, it's very handsome. Is he Lawson
good looking? No?

Speaker 1 (54:44):
No, no one is no one is it's Bianca Lawson.
Then everybody else and.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
It's literally the rest of the monsters.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Shanil goes to dance with him, but she like, she
gestures to Sarah. She's like, I'll be back in five minutes.
I'm sorry, I just I can't. I can't not do it.
I can't not do it. This guy's so hot. Yeah,
fair yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
So Sarah's very cool at being ditched at the club
by her friend. I have to say. She's just hanging
out at the bar, being normal. She's just trying to
order drinks. Derek approaches her. The two of them spar again,
but it's so like, like just kiss already, just kiss already.
Derek points out, Hey, I'm supposed to be dizzy from
all the circles you're dancing around me, remember, And suddenly

(55:22):
Sarah's like, oh, not tonight. I'm just here to observe tonight.
I'm not a narc. I'm definitely not a narc. Don't worry.
I'm not here to buy drugs. By the way, does
anyone know where I can buy some drugs? Just wondering?
Can you point me to the highest step drug dealer
in the club? I am not a narc, you guys.

(55:42):
But yeah, she's very clearly like uncomfortable and he's like, no, no,
come on, get on the dance floor. So she should
be better at dancing than this. She should be better.
I am not a trained dancer. I was better at sixteen,
at seventeen than this at dancing. I was, I believe you,

(56:02):
like you, like, how are you this bad at this?

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Because the movie posits so like for a long time,
I was a TA for like movement in dance classes.
I will say that, like some of the most difficult
people to teach were the ballet kids. Like the kids kids,
they were all women, the ballet girls that came in
and wanted to move in a different way. Right, So
like I can kind of like understand how she may

(56:26):
not know how to dance outside of like the very
regimented way that she's used to dancing. However, she should
still have basic rhythm.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
That's she's so offbeat, like the whole I'm like, this
is not even a hard song, No, it's like a
it's like a one two one too, and she just
she can't manage to fit, yeah, to catch up to
that beat. And I'm like, why are you so bad
at this?

Speaker 1 (56:51):
Because when they start positing that he's gonna teach her
like actual quote unquote hip hop steps, I'm like, it
makes sense that she want to be good at this
because there's a different way you hold your there's a
different center of gravity, there's a different pose that you
should be hitting, So all of that makes sense. But this,
I'm like, she should be able to like step touch
to a beat pretty well, like move.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Your hips just a little bit.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
How white is she? Is? She polar ice cap white.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Snow white. She is snow white white. Like it's embarrassing
to watch it. Julia House does a very good job
in this scene of being like she's embarrassed, but like
she doesn't let that stop her right from like trying
at least to dance. It's so embarrassing to watch, and.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Derek is so much nicer to her than I would
be if I brought some guy onto the dance floor
and this is what he was doing. I mean, she
was insanely hot, which okay, I get it now, I
understand Like this the movie is positing that Sarah is
so hot that Derek is willing to look past this.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
She's not.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
She's not.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
I'm sorry, she's not. No, I know I would be like,
you know what, I do want to drink.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Let's go back. You move. I thought you moving was
gonna be good, but now I'm just thinking you're gonna
be a bad leg because you have no rhythm none.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
So okay, so he decides to take pity on her.
He like helps her stop clapping off beat, which is
so embarrassing to watch. Hey shows her as simple step as.
The two of them dance together, and they like again
like a they're warming up to each.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Other y R. Meanwhile, Kai notices a drug deal going
on in like this corner of the club, and he
considers the club his turf, so he starts a fight.
Derek sees it. He immediately runs to help his friend
immediately goes to defend Kai. They beat these two guys up.
Derek's like, let's go, let's go. He tries to drag
Kai out. Kai is like okay, okay, and then spins
around lands a couple of more kicks on the guy
that he initially started beating up, and they run out

(58:34):
of the club's back door, all of this hubbub hubbub.
Sheneel's like, we gotta go. She grabs Sarah. They run
out the front and they meet up with Kai and Derek.
Kai heads off and Shaneil starts yelling at her brother
for fighting. She's like, you need to stop getting mixed
up with Kai. Like I get it, but like enough,
he's bad news. You're gonna get in trouble.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
They get back to their neighborhood. Sarah's like, oh, I'm
just a couple of blocks away, and she knows, like, no,
you cannot walk home alone. It's not safe. And Derek's like,
I'll go with you, so he and Channeel's like at
her house already, it's not like you can walk home alone.
Oh you're fine. Yeah, she's already there. So Derek walks
Sarah home. He offers to meet up with her after
school to help her work on her moves.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Okay, Okay, here's what I think the movie wants me
to think is happening. Okay, what the movie wants me
to think is happening is that Derek is so enamored
he's just looking for an excuse to spend time with Sarah,
which that makes total dramaturgical sense. Yeah, But what I
think is really happening is that Derek doesn't want to
be a doctor. Derek wants to be a choreographer.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
I just want to dance.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Derek just wants to be Debbie Allen. The rest of
this movie, Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I'm going
to lay out a case here that Derek's true passion
is choreography, and the movie is choosing to guess, like me,
with this romance that's happening with the two of them
in the movie, which both of these actors have chemistry,

(59:58):
so there is like a lovely romance in the movie.
But I feel like that is secondary to the true
story that's happening here, which is Derek's budding career as
the next Justin Beck, and like he needs this needs
to come out.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
I also, like, I just okay if he's just teaching
her moves so like so you can go to steps
and you cannot look like a fool on the dance floor.
All you need to do is just you just need
to move a little bit. That's it, you really, it's not.
You don't have to show off. You will be able
to freak with somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
That's why. That's why I think he wants to because
he's showing her like moves, and.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
I mean, and these moves are not hard. There's there's
one that's almost a great vine, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
There's a great vine. There is a greapevine one hundred percent,
but like and I'm just gonna scud ahead, way ahead.
Later on in the movie, there's a moment where he's
like hit it, Like why aren't you hitting it? I'm like,
I'm like why He may as well be being like, girl,
your extension is off? And then like when did Derek
become a choreographer?

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
So Sarah agrees to meet up with him after school
to work on her moves, and she thanks him for
walking her home and they smile at each other. Kiss, kiss,
kiss kiss.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Sarah walks in to like, I don't know, it's probably
like midnight ish, I'm guessing, and it's not that late
because they had to leave the club pretty fast. Yeah,
and her father's upset that she wasn't home when he
came home on a break from his gig at the club.
He's like, well, I didn't go back to the club
because I got freaked out that you weren't home, and
now I missed half a night's work worrying about you.

(01:01:27):
And Sarah's like, well, you weren't interested in being a
father in me for the last seventeen years, so I
don't know why you care now. And I'm fine. I'm
an adult. I can take care of myself. He snaps
at her, and he's like, look, I don't need much.
I just need to know where you're going and when
you think you'll be home. These are very basic tenets
of child adult behavior. Just give me, throw me a bone.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
I read Dadding for Dummies and they say I should
know where you are.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
But he's not wrong, No, he's not wrong, like leave
a note, went out with friends, will be back by
Because honestly, with this dad, if she said we'll be
back by three am, he'd be like, well I don't love.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
It, but okay, well yeah, he has no standing and.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
As long as she's back by three am, it's fine.
He's not gonna ground her.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
We cut to our first dance montage, Derek teaches Sarah
how to stand, how to sit, how to grunt, along
with some real slick dance moves.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
There's a moment here where he's like teaching her how
to manspread? Yeah, why man spreading? What part of dancing involved?

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Is it because his budding choreographer brain. He's like, I
need her to be able to open up her hips. Yeah,
And the only way I could do that is to
be like, you know how when people man spread on
the subway.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Let me show you, you know, when you have a
real sickle dick and you have to and you have
to make room for the.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Curve, you know how, like when men take up so
much fucking space. I need you to take up space
right now, Sarah?

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Yeah, like instead of.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Like, don't contract expand.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
So they're in the cafeteria for this one. At the
end of the session, he tells her they're gonna have
to find someplace else to practice, and I'm like, why
what if you could go here? Whatever, it doesn't matter.
They move on, maybe because.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
It's too embarrassing to be mean.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
She demonstrates a bit of her ballet skills and when
he's like, what the hell was that because she does
like an arabesque whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Don't pretend you don't know those dance moves. Derek, do
you know why he has today? He's like, we gotta
go somewhere else. It's because he realizes his friends are
gonna mock him for being the choreographer that he is.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
God, I'm a dancer like his dancer dancer.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
His friends are gonna ras him to death and be like,
you were supposed to be a surgeon and now you
want to be Twila Tharp. Fuck you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Man. If Snookie finds out about this, he's never gonna
hear the end of it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
He's never gonna hear the end of it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
So he's very impressed. He's like, what was that? And
she's like, I don't want to talk about it. It's
not a big deal, and she walks away and he says,
I think it is.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
The Next day at school, Sarah's walking into the girl's room.
She sees Kai in there with a girl and Kai
is like slamming this girl against the wall and being like,
where's my money? Where's my money? Yeah, And for a
minute I was like, are they wait? Oh my god,
is he supposed to be a pimp. That's fucking horrible.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
I had the same thought.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
I was like, oh my god. And then it's like, no,
she bought drugs from him and then didn't pay him
back or like pay him for the witch PSA. I
guess for this episode. I never thought i'd have to
say this, but drug dealers, if you're listening to us,
get the money up front. What are you doing? Why
are you selling drugs on layaway.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
You can't sell drugs on spec That is a.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Bad business practice. You get the money up front for
the drugs. I can't believe I have to tell anyone this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
I thought this was if they teach us in drug.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Dealing school, in drug one oh one, in drug pushing
one on one.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
I mean, while we're on this topic, do we also
tell them not to get high on their own supply it?

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Does he get high of her?

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
I'm just saying just doing that, Oh, fair enough, blanket. Look,
we should start our own drug dealing one on one podcast.
I feel like there is a there is a need
for this in the world. People need to know all
the all the major pitfalls one can take when entering
the drug dealing world. Yeah, when opening your own drug
habitat ury.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Absolutely everyone likes everyone likes it. A spoke menu. We'll
just start there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
We'll start there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, make sure you under
you know what, don't get high on your own supply,
but also know what you're dealing with. Yeah, know what
you have, Know what your product is, know your own worth,
know your own worth. Yes, yes, let's shark tank this shit.
But anyway turns out Yeah, girl owes him money for drugs.

(01:05:22):
Sarah comes in. She sees Kai slapping this girl around
and she's like, hey, stop it, as one would. Kai
does not take kindly to this. The girl runs away.
All of Sarah's fight kind of drains out of her.
You see it really quick. She's like, oh fuck, I've overstepped.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
He like gets really in her face and he's like
you do not get in my way. Do you understand?
And she's like I understand, and then he leaves her alone.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Yep. We cut to Sarah and Derek. They're walking to
another dance practice and she asks him about his relationship
with Kai. She's like, that guy's scary. Why do you
hang out with him? Derek says, look, Kai has a
good heart. I know. He's like he's had a rough life.
I'm never going to abandon him, and he explains it.
A while he and Ki were caught robbing a liquor
store and they were running and they went in different directions.
It looked like Derek was gonna get caught, and Kai

(01:06:07):
started to make noise and sacrificed himself, so Derek got
away scott free. Yeah, and then he absolutely refused to
give up Derek's name to the DA so he went
to Juvie and Derek saw no consequences. Yeah, which rightfully
would inspire a lot of loyalty.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
That is good writing, I tell you, because as soon
as he said that, I was like, oh, because I
was already with this relationship, just like the two actors
have good chemistry together, and I believe that they've been
lifelong friends and one just went one way and the
other one went the other. But this now is like okay,
because also I'm like, why doesn't Sarah just say this
guy threw me up against the wall and threatened me.
Right after Derek says that you really can't be like

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this guy through we have against the wall and threatened me,
you have to be.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
Like Okay, she's learning from that first scene, she's not
calling someone an asshole until she understands the relationship they
have with the person she's talking to. Good job, Sarah,
So Sarah backs off the Kai talk. Derek asks her
about her. She immediately gets extremely defensive, and he's like,
I'm just like, what, how's your relationship with your mother?
Like what's she like? You never talk about her? And

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she's like she's dead and he's like, okay, sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
I didn't know that Kai killed her.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
So he takes her to an abandoned furniture store that
he used to work at, and there's another dance training montage.
She's like, a full this. I think this is the
where he's like, no, you have to hit it a
full choreographer.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
And I'm like, he is now a choreographer. He basically
like you cut away from him, you cut back. He's
wearing like a leotard and like and and like yoga
pants and he's got a score of heround his neck
and he's like again again, he's got one of those.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Walking starts, slamming the walking stick to the beaty you
will call me Madame Radmanova.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
We cut to Sarah and Shanil hanging out she Neil
tells Sarah and the audience out their backstory about their
mother abandoning them when they were young. She does have
a heartbreaking line here where she talks about her mother's
past and she says their mom was in jail for
drugs and things women do for drugs, which I was like, oh,
that's that's fucking heartbreaking. So yeah, they're on their own,

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and then they start talking a little bit about Derek.
Sarah's like, so, tell me a little bit more about
your brother. What's swiss he into? What's he like? Does
does he like girls? Her offbeat?

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Does he like the other white meat? You know what
I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
And she kneels like, oh, you like Derek, And Sarah's
like no. Then of course she can't keep the smile
off her face. And then at that moment, we hear
Derek come into the house. He's got the mail, he's
thrilled he got into Georgetown, celebrating. There's big hugs all around.
Derek hugs Sarah. Sarah is like red in the face

(01:08:54):
from blushing, Like Derek doesn't realize like how much she
likes him up until this moment is very sweet.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Yep Erica, that's about halfway through the movie. Should we
take a little break.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
Here, You know what, let's just stop the movie here,
let's take a dance break. Everything good has happened. Derek
got into Georgetown, Sarah's made two best friends. We're good.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
End of movie. End of movie.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Nothing bad's gonna happen, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
We'll be right back to finish taking you through. Save
the last dance, and we're back.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
We come back to find Sarah and Derek on the
train on the l there now, I think officially on
a date. They are like kind of snuggling a little bit,
and they're cheerful and happy. And there's a white woman,
an older white woman. Actually I'm giving that too much
like class that inflection. She's bedraggled, she's nasty, she's a

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nasty old white lady, and she's giving them side eye
because gross interracial coupling miscegyny ew and Sarah notices it first.
She starts to like get inch closer and closer to Derek, Derek,
bless him, not noticing it for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Derek learned at a young age to ignore racist white women.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Yeah, who has the time? Who has the time? And
Sarah finally like she's like, hey, we have an audience,
and they see and Derek sees her too, and the
lady's like hoop hooph, and so they decided to put
on a bit of a show. So like Sarah starts
to like snuggle up on Derek's neck and then they
start to kiss. It's very I think they're so cute.

(01:10:34):
These two are so cute.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
I like them together.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
Yeah, and the woman is like gross, and she she
actually stands up and like leaves the train. So the
two of them laugh. They're like enjoying making the right
the old racist uncomfortable. Excellent. All good. Right, they get
off the train, they're they're walking in this neighborhood and
she's like, where are we going? And Derek's like it's
a surprise. And she's like, this is your celebration night

(01:10:58):
for getting into Georgetown. It shouldn't be my super and
he's like, well, that's the way it is. He's perfect.
He is so perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
The worst part about him is that he is too
loyal to his friend who has gone to a down
a dark path.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
Yeah, that's the worst thing about him. His flaw, that's
the only flaw he seems to have. That and maybe
he's a little too comfortable being kind of a dick
in English class. Yeah, it's not even that big a deal.
They walk up to the Chicago Theater advertising a performance
by the Jeoffrey Ballet, and he's like, surprise, I took
you to the I'm taking you to the ballet. I
am a seventeen year old boy. Uh huh, I want

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to I want to say this out loud again, so
everyone heard that I am a seventeen year old straight
boy who is taking my girl to the ballet, because
that's what she's into. This person doesn't exist. Yeah, this
is a unicorn. Sarah's like, oh no, oh no. She starts.
She starts to like get even more pale than she

(01:11:55):
already is. She's like, I can't go in there. I'm sorry,
I can't go into the ballet. She acts all weird.
The two of them eventually do end up going in
and they watch the performance of the horniest ballet the
Geoffrey has ever put on.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
I mean like, it's inches from actual intercourse happening on stage.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
She's almost penetration. There's the only thing stopping penetration is
a well placed dance bell.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
It wells played dance Bell in a thin layer of nylons.
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
I mean, I'm like, it's so funnycause I've seen Jeffrey
a few times and I'm like, I don't recall them
being the horniest.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Dance company ever. Afterwards, Sarah is emotional and Derek asks why.
She tells him that she just wants to go back
to when her life made sense, when her mother was alive. Okay,
so this scene is, this scene's rough, it's it's a
very difficult scene. The writing is very surface. She says
exactly what it is to explain to the audience exactly

(01:12:49):
what she's feeling, which is not really how people talk. Yeah,
and it's Julia Styles is doing her level best.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
This is not her fault.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
It's not her fault. The writing is really rough.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Dancing is her fault.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
I don't even think that because the director should have
been like, no, we're gonna hire a body double, like
you're gonna get in intense, We're gonna you're gonna do
like some things, but like the majority of the dancing
is gonna be a body double.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
Are you gonna take like six months to learn ballet
not two months?

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
It still wouldn't be enough. It's still like, that's not
a cut on her, that's a cut on any any
twenty five year old who's gonna try to look like
they've been dancing like an eighteen year old who's been
dancing for seventeen years.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
I'm gonna take six weeks, six weeks worth of ballet
glasses at the minute we're done with this, and then
show you up in a month and a half, My friend.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
You would be dead in two days.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
I would be a graceful Missy Copeland's got nothing on.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
Me, step aside, she's retiring anyway, all right. So Sarah
breaks down. She admits that she blames herself for her
mother's death. All her mother wanted was for Sarah's dreams
to come true, and Sarah insisted that she'd be at
the at the Juilliard audition, and it wound up killing her.
She's dead because of me, Right, It's the kind.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Of nonsense that like you wouldn't believe an adult, but
a seventeen year old would think that. Yes, Like I'm like,
all right, yeah, that's you're gonna needed some therapy, but like,
it's not your fault.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
It's not your fault. Derek perfect again is like, your
mother's death was not your fault and your mother would
still want your dream to come true.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Yes, got it right, Derek. That's the thing too, he
can't be best boy because everything he says only a man.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
Everything he says makes you attracted to him, so like.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Like I'm uncomfortably attracted to the teenagers in this film.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Yeah, Sarah says, I don't think I can do it
without her, and Derek is like, look, what do you want?
Do you want to go to Juilliard? And Sarah admits
that she does, and Derek says, then it's up to
you to make your dream come true. And he walks
her home and he kisses her on her front porch
and he smiles that million watt Sean Patrick Thomas smile,

(01:14:55):
and then he heads home with like a spring in
his step, and basements across the country flooded.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
I'm genuinely how did he not become a huge star?

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
I literally am like, either it was it was like
the racist system, or he genuinely didn't want to.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
What Shawn Patrick Thomas needs is Shonda Shanda, are you
listening to me? You made Kerrie Washington a mega WATS star.
We need you to do the same for for this
kid too, because this kid, he's literally my age.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
We deserve to get to see that face.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Yeah, and that asks. Yeah, let's get really put him on.
Bridgerton took the words right out of my mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
So after the date, Sarah's reevaluating her life, her decisions.
She goes into her closet, she takes out her point shoes,
she starts practicing again. She tells Derek that Juilliard is
holding auditions in Chicago next month.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
Okay, pause, yes, Paul, we have to talk about the
timeline of this movie. Uh huh, Okay, So her mother
passed away at this point. Let's say maybe she's been
in in Chicago out in parentheses two months.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
Ah No, I feel like it's longer.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
You think it's long. So it's like like half the
school year. Like, let's maybe her perhaps her mother passed
away in like September October, so she auditioned in the
Chicago area, presumptively in Chicago, no more than like five
months ago, and now there's another Juilliard audition for admittance
that fall.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Julliard didn't find anyone. They were looking for Julia. They
needed Julia Styles all right, oh, like they're like, no
one has used a chair in their audition yet, I
have thoughts about that chair. I I if the thoughts
are that chair was perfect, change nothing that I agree
with you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
The chair also got into Juilliard. That chair expressed things.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
What if the chair also got it in Juilliard?

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
What if she shows up for Juilliard and he's like,
where's the chair?

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
Where's the chair? No, we wanted the chair. We were
talking to the chair, not to you. So she and
Derek start to practice now in like in aband furniture
store that he worked at last summer. Don't worry about it.
Just don't worry about it. These two are breaking into
a building, using the fire escape to get into this,
and I'm like, first of all, how are there not
already people squatting in there? Second of all, how are

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they not like is how is it not rat infested?
Find something? Fight a park? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
It's an abandoned building in Chicago in the winter, famously
very cold.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
Fucking freezing in there. Good call. I forgot about the
fact that it's winter. So he's like, all right, girl,
we gotta get you practicing. We gotta get your ballet
up to shape, and she says maybe the funniest line
in the entire film. She turns to Derek and she goes,
you know, I'm okay with the ballet part of the audition,
but I need you to help me with my free form. Paul,

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there was a montage you did not put in here
earlier where she goes to a ballet class. And watch
her at that ballet class, and I can tell you,
as someone who has never taken ballets, is not a dancer,
but has seen ballet, has ballet. Girl, you're not ready
for the ballet part of that audition. Okay, So here's
the crazy You are not fucking ready.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
Here's the crazy thing. They put her in a ballet class. Fine,
and then they I don't know what the move is called,
the move where you lift your leg back. I think
it's in our basket.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
I don't know, because I don't know anything about ballet
except that she is not ready.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
But they put her with a bunch of girls her
age who are ballet dancers. So everyone else's leg is
like two feet higher than Julia styles like, just have
the other ballet dancers. All right, girls, we're just gonna
lift our legs this high, so it looks like that's
what she's being told to do.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Yes, she looks terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
She looks bad next to them, and it's not her fault.
You're setting her up for failure.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
And she's like, no, no, don't worry about the ballet. Derek, Derek,
I got it. What I need you to help me
with is this? What's hip hop? What is that?

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
So we cut to steps there is I believe it
is an ice cube song that's playing with the line
I got dick for days, you got asked for weeks
and I have to say straight adoptee into our friend group.
That's another one you could try shouting out. So Derek
takes Sarah back out onto the dance floor. She's much

(01:19:17):
more comfortable. They start to gather in audiences they dance,
and this is one of them, like.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
The I hate this so much because people are like Derek, Derek.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
Go, Sarah, Go Sarah, And I'm like, I don't think.
I don't. I genuinely don't think high school students were
doing this in two thousand and one. I feel like
I did this when I was in middle school. That
was a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
Also, this movie is positing They're not at like a
high school dance. They're at a club.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
They're at a club.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
There are there people at this club who do not
know who these two people are erect. There are adults
on a date at this club. There's two people who
worked a hard week at their adult jobs. They hired
a babysitter. They're like, let's go to a nice let's
go dancing. Yeah that is that is what's in this club.

(01:20:04):
And now they have to cheer on two seventeen year
olds as they're dancing badly at the club.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
You know what, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna run
and grab a mattress pad for Erica's seat because Nicki
is back.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
It's fine, I'm fine. I don't need Look. Is she
is she the most beautiful woman I've ever seen? Maybe? Yes?
Is she also breathtaking? Yes? Also yes? Can I handle it? No?

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
No, No, I can't I can't handle it. I can't
handle it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
She notices them dancing. She decides she wants to cause
little chaos, so she heads to the dance floor, and
she inserts herself between Derek and Sarah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
You can't shurt herself anywhere. She wants as far as
I'm concerned Derek.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
The movie implies that Derek's like not really paying attention.
So he starts dancing with Nicki and Sarah kind of
is half dancing with Snookie, but she's also kind of
left out in the cold.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
Yeah, no, okay, this okay. Maybe I was gonna say, like,
Derek's worst trait is that he's too good. Yeah, he's
too good of a friend. This I could actually be
his worst trip.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
This is this is a fuck up.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
This is this is a major fuck up. He starts
like dancing with her, but like, like he almost gets
lost in the moment with Nikki. You know this is
your ex? Yeah, you hate you know what she's trying
to do. She's not like she's not playing innocent. She's like,
I am here to cause chaos. And you know your
girlfriend is watching, bitch, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
Yeah? So Sarah heads off the floor. She's pouting on
the sidelines, and Kai spots her and he's like, great,
here's another chance to put this bitch in her place.
He walks over and he tells you that you never
look as good as she does with him. That's oil
your milk. Ain't no point in trying to mix, and
Paul screams at the TV it's oil and water. I
get it. I know it's a black and white thing.

(01:21:45):
I understand, but like, find a better metaphor then.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
Also, just just be like you're you're seven at best,
and she's a fucking twelve. Let's not even bring race
into this.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
At that point, Derek, he notices that he's been titmatized
by Nikki and he heads over to Sarah. He says,
he was just dancing. There is nothing between me and her.
He's like, you were dancing with Snookie. I was dancing
with her, not a big deal. I didn't mean to
hurt your feelings. And he apologizes so like, even when
he fucks up, this seventeen year old boy immediately is like,
I fucked up. I'm really sorry. I didn't mean to

(01:22:21):
Please forgive me.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
He's so good. God, damn it, Derek, You're perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
So she lets it go. She takes him back to
her place. She mentions that her father will be gone
all night. And we know what that means is that
the express train to a dick down's entrance music.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
I hear, are these two kids gonna bone down? And
the most uncomfortable mattress have ever made? Yeah, do you
think they pulled out the couch and they just fucked
on the couch?

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
I hope they fucked on Roy's bed.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Oh no, that's worse than the couch.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
I think the couch is better than Broyce Orr back.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
In the Mystic's a thing where like where like what
is the bigger boner killer?

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
There is no chance that the mattress on Roy's bed
isn't a fucking crime scene.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
You know what. That's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
There's no chance that the mattress on Roy's bed wasn't like,
wasn't found on the street. Yeah, dragged into that apartment.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
Yeah, and you know what, we did skip over this part,
but he doesn't mention in the beginning that he put
a new mattress on the pullout. Yes, so she is
that mattress is fresh.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
The pullout couch, Like, it's gotta be cleaner than that
mattress than ratchess.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
Are You're right?

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
I want to in my because I don't want to
think about these two hot people taking their clothes off,
getting ready for the moment, and then one of them
being like hang on and like trying to pull out
the couch.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
You got to pull it out before you start getting
in the moment, you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
Because there's just nothing sexier.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
I usually don't advocate for the pull out method, but
in this case.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
You've got to pull out first. You gotta pull out
early and first. Like, there's nothing less sexy than watching
someone try to pull out a.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Couch, porking it up, like I gotta get it this time.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
Come on to get it at the right angle.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Almost there, almost there.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
You're as out. You're pulling up that couch.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
Just showing full hole of the person behind you. Then
you slip and you fall over, pressed tam on the floor.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
You just go, God, damn it. The other person's like,
I told you you got to go.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
At an angle, get your dick caught in it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
So yeah, let's just hope they just fuck on the couch.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
Young.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
They're young, they're athletic, they can do it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
A couple of things I love about this scene. You
rarely see a high school movie where there's a sex
scene where there's not like like agonizing.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
Over it first, or consequences after.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
Or consequences afterwards, exactly where there's like this this. I
remember even ten years ago. The first time I saw
this movie, I remember thinking, oh, that's something I've never
seen before.

Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
Kudos to not only them getting to bang it out
on the couch because father's gone all night, but her
father being gone all night means we were spared a
scene of the white man explaining jazz to the young
black man.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
Oh, although honestly I would have loved that. Yeah, would
have loved that for him to be like, let's talk
about jazz, okay everyone, sweet sex scene, lovely buckle up
movies about take a hard turn. We cut to a diner.
Derek is like walks in. He sits with Kai and
a couple of their friends. They all start making fun
of him for dating a white girl and he's like, yeah,

(01:25:28):
well you know. And then Kai is like, so, anyway,
I'm planning a raid across town cause there's some drug
dealers who are trying to encroach on my territory and
I'm not into that. And I'm thinking drive by, Yeah,
what are we thinking? That's no bad ideas in a brainstorm,
I'm gonna start with drive by. And everyone's like, wait,

(01:25:50):
what you want to do a drive by? And he's like,
I know what you're thinking, don't worry, I have a gun,
and then he shows that his gun, and Derek's like, ooh, okay,
this is all terrible. Maybe we don't do any of this.
Maybe you stop dealing drugs. You just fucking go to
school like a normal kid, and like try to like
educate yourself and go to college and get a job

(01:26:12):
and just be a person in the world that's not
like a gun slinging drug dealer. Yeah, and guys like, no,
that sounds real boring.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
I'm gonna do this. I like my idea better, thank
you for the idea. But no, yeah, no, no, excellent.
I'm so glad I'm getting all the into this. But
that sounds so boring.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
Yeah, and I don't want to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
We cut to the girls playing basketball in a gym
class while Derek Kai and the boys play a pickup
game in the park. I don't know if it's supposed
to be happening simultaneously. I don't know why the girls
would be in school while these Maybe maybe it's not
really simultaneous, but I think.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
It's like to show that, like, look, the boys are
playing like nicely and the girls are not.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
Tensions escalate in both games with Sarah and Nikki getting
into a brawl while the boys get hit by a
drive by, though no one is killed, right, they hear
the gunshots, they all they all go to the ground.
Snookie's there, Derek's there, Kai is there, the other like
you know, bit players are all there, is there.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
No one even gets hit. I don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:27:06):
So the movie is starting to like it's starting to
hit the stereotypes really hard, right, Like in the beginning
of the movie when when shaneil had it had was
a teen mom, right, I was like, oh, but the
movie is like not portraying her as like, you know,
she has no future, Like it's not it. This is
a thing that happened and she's dealing with it and
she's still going to school and she has a support system,

(01:27:28):
and like there are that's good representation, right, Like it's
part of her life and there are millions of young
women out there that are experiencing this. Great right, But
then we start to get into more of the drug
stuff and can we deepen this a little bit? This
is first thought yeah in the hood? Yeah, and and
like like Kai, I think I think the performance of

(01:27:49):
Kai is good, but like he doesn't get much depth
as a character. He kind of gets depth from Derek's
story and Derek liking him and wanting to not lose
him as a friend and stuff, but like he you know,
learn about his.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
Life now that I think about it, they don't really
go deep on anyone except for Sarah and Shanil. They
don't really even good that deep on Derek, right, because
he has to be perfect. He has to be perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
It's perfect. It's perfection all the way down with that one.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
There's really nothing. Yeah, there's just he likes Sarah. He
likes school, I guess, and that's it, and he's a
good friend. Yeah, But like, they don't go deep on
those two are truly the only characters that get any
kind of like arc are Shanil and Sarah. None of
the boys get that, which is a little disappointing now
that you're saying it, because it didn't super occur to
me until right now.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
Yeah, and I think, like for two thousand and one,
this is probably like important representation, like having an interracial relationship.
It's the head of a rom com, a teen rom com,
no last like rom drum. Yeah, fair enough, fair enough
was good. It's not nuanced, is all I'm trying to say.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
Yeah, a thousand percent. Yeah, there's nothing nuanced though, even
the stuff that like we do know about that we like,
oh sure, the ballet stuff is not nuanced. Yeah, the auditions.
The only times the movie like pulls back a touch
and it has like the slightest bit of nuance, You're right,
is when they first show the high school that they're
all in and it's like a normal high school. It's not.

(01:29:11):
It's not the Lean on Me School of Terror and
like a couple of bits with Shinil and Sarah, but
there's very other than that. Everyone is just like stereotype
stereotype stereotype.

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
Yeah, And I can't figure out given the genre of
the movie like this, it might just be more of
a genre thing, right, Like this is not an indie,
you know, a twenty four release where they're trying to
really like go deep, Like, so is it only something
I'm pointing out because it's since it's not all white
kids all the stereotypes now, are these harmful stereotypes are not?

(01:29:43):
Or is it like it's all the capitol R race
thing is starting to come up with a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
A little bit, Yeah, one is about to come up
a lot. Yeah, so after the fight and like, we
don't get much of the fight in the movie, but
the aftermath is real, Like, they don't look good, they
look beat up. Sarah, nick You're sitting next to each other,
and Nicki says, this ain't over, bitch, and Sarah's like,
I don't even know why it started. What do you
mean it's not over? What the fuck is your problem?

(01:30:10):
And Nicki says the quiet part out loud. She's like,
white women taking black men. We don't like it. It's
not it's not a good look for you. She goes,
the whole world ain't enough. You gotta conquer ours too,
And this is the first time that it dawns on
Sarah that it's not just old racist white ladies who
are gonna have a problem with them, it's everyone else.

(01:30:30):
And like there is again, You're right, there's like it
goes into stereotypes, like Derek is quote unquote the good one.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
This would also be more effective if the backstory of
Nicki and Derek wasn't that she cheated on him and
now wants him back. Yeah, Like what if Nicki just
had a crush on him and he chose Sarah and
he wasn't interested in her for whatever reason.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
Well cast behind, so Sarah pushes back. She's like, where
can I like each other? If you have a problem
with it, screw you, Yes, none of your business.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
That night, at Sarah's apartment, Derek comes to visit, having
heard about the fight. She opens the door. Roy appears
behind her, and Sarah's like, I'm fine, Like, we're good,
you know, go now, I'll call you and Roy helps Sarah.
Patra bruises with like first aid. So Roy's becoming a
good father. For track, Roy has an arc. We don't
really follow it, but it's true he has an arc.
He's a better father. We cut to steps. Kai is

(01:31:27):
again pressuring Derek to join him on his planned raid.
Like Derek can't say no. He's not saying yes, but
he can't say no either. Derek doesn't respond, and Snooky
and Sarah appear behind him. They were apparently like just
dancing on the floor, and Kai kicks Snooky to the
ground and mocks him for hitting the deck during the
drive by.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
Which like everyone did, Bro, that's what you're supposed to
do in that drive by.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
You're the only one who stood up and started shooting back.
Because you were the only one with a gun.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
Yeah, do you not know how drive bys work?

Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
All right? He's drug dealing one on one drive bys?

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
Yeah, this is two on one, like if you hit
the drive by part of drug dealing your advanced. Yeah,
there is a line here that is so goddamn funny.

Speaker 1 (01:32:06):
I know. Wait, is it funny or is it corny
and cringey?

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
It's funny because someone, an adult wrote this for a child.
An adult wrote this a for a ostensible Obviously, all
these people are like twenty five years old, but like
the character of Kai is supposed to be seventeen years old. Okay,
Sarah and Snookie come up on their conversation and Sarah
tries to intervene because there's tension there, and Kai says,
this is an A and B conversation, So see your

(01:32:33):
way home.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
I tripped on that so hard.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
How did that make the final cut of this movie?
How did the actor not be like, no, I'm not
saying that. How did the editor not be like, this
is supposed to be a teenage boy?

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
Yeah, he wouldn't say that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
How did the director not cat like, who is who dropped?
There's so many balls that got dropped? To the moment
where Kai, the gun toting drug dealer Yah who is
seventeen years old in a year two thousand and one,
says that to another seventeen year old it doesn't make

(01:33:11):
any fucking sense.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
So Sarah's like, Hey, I'm leaving, are you coming with me?
This is when Kai does the whole a B thing.
Sarah tells him to fuck off, and Kai actually goes
for her, like he steps at her, and Derek gets
in his way, so Kai tells him to get out
of his face and take his trailer trash ho with him.
Derek punches him and the two stare at each other,

(01:33:33):
and then Derek takes Sarah and Snookie out of the club. Right,
so there's been a break here between these two lifelong friends.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
We cut to Derek and Shaneil's apartment. Kenny has arrived.
Remember Kenny the father of Shaneil's baby. Until you mentioned
that she had a baby like ten minutes ago, I'd
forgotten fully and forgot. I was like, right, she is
a kid. He comes to take Christopher the baby for
the weekend. Christopher is freaking out because like he's not

(01:34:00):
he's just he's being fussy. Cute kid they cast a
really cute kid to play Christopher.

Speaker 1 (01:34:04):
And he doesn't recognize Kenny because Kenny's not there a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
Yes, that's the thing. He's like, no, you can't take
me away from my mom. Who are you? You weird
tall man? Yeah, I don't want to be with you.

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
And this baby's incredible because he gets all that done
with subtext.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
He's so good, he's so good. This baby went to.

Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
Juilliard, and this baby you grew up to be Michael B. Jordan.

Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
This baby actually like went with the chair to Juilliard. Yeah.
So Kenny is like, come on, let me, let me
take him, and he and Shaneil get into like a
verbal fight. It gets ugly, not physically ugly, but verbally ugly,
and he's like, fine, fuck off and he just leaves
without the kid. Turns out the baby is sick, that's
why it's crying.

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
So Schanil winds up at a doctor's appointment with Christopher at
a very overworked office. Sarah is with her friend, essensibly
just to help. So Shanil, very stressed out, not in
a good place, is like, oh, so does Sarah blame
Derek for the fight with Nicki and Sarah says, no,
I explained about Nicki, and Shanil's like, oh, so, like
you don't take any response ability for this, and Sarah

(01:35:01):
says what and Sheanil says, maybe Nicky has a point.
She says it hurts people to see Sarah and Derek together,
particularly black women. And this is where we say more
of the quiet part out loud. Derek's a good guy,
Sarah's poaching one of the few good black men left.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
I hate this argument. Yeah, look, I get it, it's
a real argument, but I just I don't know. I
hate seeing it in like popular culture that's meant for
white people.

Speaker 1 (01:35:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
And the reason I hate that for a white audience
is because it really like ingrains this stereotype. Yeah again,
I really do get it. This is the world that
we're all living in. You have to consider who this
movie is for and who's probably gonna watch this movie,
and like it's gonna be probably a majority of white
girls right watching this movie, and like it's a little iffy.
There is a really good line here where Shanil says,

(01:35:47):
this is what NICKI meant by having you in our world,
and Sarah says, there's only one world. Shanil right, which
is a fairly good argument, I will say. And then
Shanil turns to where she's like, that's what they teach you,
we know different yep. Also excellent argument.

Speaker 1 (01:36:03):
Yeah yeah, and it's very true because that was what
I was taught me too, a hundred percent what I
was taught, right.

Speaker 2 (01:36:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:36:08):
So she tells Sarah to open up her eyes, look around. Hurt,
Sarah just gathers her things and leaves, and Shanil kind
of looks after her regretfully.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
So we cut to the next dance rehearsal. This is
the moment where Derek. This is where Erica goes Derek.
Is why is Derek a choreographer all of a sudden,
Because this is when it dawns on me that like,
not only is he like teaching her steps, he's choreographing
her dance for her audition.

Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
Yes, Like I didn't realize that until like the second
time through.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
He is one hundred percent like and so he gets
like annoyed with her when she doesn't hit her steps
and like your extension is off and like what are
you doing? And she's like, shut up, Balanchine, I'm trying,
Like she's out of sorts because of the fight she
just had with Shanil, And Derek is like, Hey, everything's
going to be okay, Like, you're gonna have the audition.

(01:36:56):
You're gonna be amazing at it because my Steps are
unimpeachably good.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
In fact, after you audition for Julliard, they're gonna be like,
guess what, girl, you didn't get into Juilliard? But who
is your choreographer? We want them? Yeah, He's like, hey,
have you picked out a dress for Main Squeeze night
at Steps?

Speaker 1 (01:37:14):
Again? This is this is an actual club, but this
is not This isn't a prom I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
I do feel like clubs are cheeseball, though I have
definitely seen club promote some cheeseball shit, and like, I
this this might if this club is cheeseball enough to
have like a mostly high school clientele, it might be
cheeseball enough to have a Maine Squeeze night. So he's like,
have you picked out a dress for our our next
date night? Right? And she's like, I don't know, should

(01:37:39):
maybe after the fight we should just cool it for
a while and not go out in public very much.
And Derek's like buh, are you embarrassed to be seen
with me? And she's like, no, you should be embarrassed
we see with me. You are you forgetting what is
happening here? And she's like, I don't know what I want.
I'm just tired of having to defend our relationship to

(01:37:59):
every everyone, to the world. And Derek's like, well, that's
the world we're living in. Shit gets hard. You don't
just walk away because shit gets hard. You have to
keep moving forward and persevering. He's such a he's such
an adult. He's like, he should be a therapist.

Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
A therapist, choreographer, the therapies you through the dance.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
You know that exists?

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
Absolutely, Derek would found the studio for that and make
a billion dollars. And then he kind of hits her
on like on a nerve. He goes, you know, you
quit on your on life after your mother died, and
now you're gonna quit on me, and she's like, do
not talk about my mother. He immediately apologizes. He's like,
I'm sorry, my bad, and he's like, I've been defending
your our relationship to everyone too. It's not just you.

(01:38:45):
I thought we were in this together. That's why I
was happy to do so. But if you're not happy
to do so, if you think this is too difficult,
then fuck off. And then he leaves yep.

Speaker 1 (01:38:55):
In the aftermath of the breakup, Derek agrees to go
with Kai on his raid.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
Buddy, Buddy. The move here is Pint of ice Cream.
YEP is movie you cry too, absolutely Sandra Bullock movie
You don't want your You don't want your friends to
know you secretly watch and weep at.

Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
Love Potion number nine.

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
Yeah, I did. The move here is to go fuck Nicky. Yeah,
the move here, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
What you always think. The answer is Erica. Maybe it's
a good day, Maybe I should go fuck Nicky. It's
a bad day. Maybe I should go fuck me.

Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
Maybe I should just like let Nicky hang out, like
pick out my clothes. But genuinely, I'm like, this is
such an overreaction to a mediocre girl dumping him, or
him dumping a mediocre Look. I look, I love this movie.
I like this movie very much, But Sarah is mediocre.

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
Sarah continues to rehearse her upcoming Juilliard audition, and we
learned that it is now the next day, so time
has moved forward.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
It's the day of the show, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:39:51):
The day of the show, y'all, at home, she's paging
through a photo album of her mother and Roy comes in.
He wants to say good luck, and then he shows
her that he finally fixed up her bedroom so she
has her own space. Okay, this apartment.

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
She walks into this apartment and he like does the
reveal that he painted her room and everything, and then
he has a line where he goes, some of it's
so wet. You're telling me she walked into this four
hundred square foot apartment and wasn't like, why does it
smell like paint?

Speaker 1 (01:40:19):
You're telling me that he was apparently able to do
it in one day while she was gone at school,
and it took him three months to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:26):
That that tracks, Actually, that part actually does.

Speaker 1 (01:40:30):
She should have been like, maybe if you had done
this earlier, you wouldn't have to sit on my fuck
couch to watch television.

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
I would like you to know that I did a
doggy style on.

Speaker 1 (01:40:39):
That couch and I didn't turn the cushions over afterwards.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
Now enjoy your episode of Dateline.

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
So Roy says that he knows he doesn't deserve a
second chance to be her father, but he hopes she'll
give him one and she starts to cry. She confides
in him about the breakup. She treats him like a
dad for the first time, and she says she just
wants someone at her audition who loves her. And Roy says,
I love you, and I.

Speaker 2 (01:41:07):
Gotta say this actor killed him because it got me.
I was like, oh me too, me to this actor
fucking nailed it. He's so good. Okay, look you like,
I get it. Like with your mom maybe in the
beginning of the movie, but by now you've auditioned several
times for Juilliard. You need to learn how to audition
on your own. Your mommy and daddy cannot come with
you on every audition for the rest of your life.

(01:41:29):
You needs to tough enough.

Speaker 1 (01:41:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
We cut to the park, Derek is helping she kneel
with Christopher. She's like, hey, man, I heard about your
breakup with Sarah. I might have had.

Speaker 1 (01:41:39):
Something to do that might have been somewhere between fifty
my fault.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
So she's she's like, listen, I'm really sorry, but I
told and she tells him everything about her confrontation. She's like,
I was dealing with bullshit from like with Christopher and
his father and I and I not the baby's fault,
Kenny's fault, us dealing with bullshit from Kenny and I lost.
I lost my head and I took it out on Sarah.
I'm really sorry. And Derek's like, stay out of my life,

(01:42:08):
and he's like, I gotta go. And Chaniel's like, wait,
are you going to that thing with Kai? And like
what's funny is like everyone knows. Yeah, this is the
least well kept secret of this entire school is that
Kai is going. At four pm on a Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:42:21):
We'll be doing a drive.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
We'll be doing a drive ye in West Chicago. Like,
what about the other kids, the other kids on the
other side of that drive by? Do you think they
were told ahead of time? Because fucking everyone knows. So
she's like, don't don't go help Kai. I know you
think you owe him, but you don't, and you have
to move on with your life. And as Derek is

(01:42:43):
leaving anyway, Kenny arrives in the park and he and
Shaniel this has clearly been a thaw for their fight,
and they greet each other warmly.

Speaker 1 (01:42:50):
I want to start tracking timing again.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
Huh. This, Paul, was your audition for NYU at ninety
pm was not? Because this movie posits that her audition
for Juilliard is at nine pm.

Speaker 1 (01:43:04):
Because I was trying to figure it out, because it's like, Okay,
in the park, it's it's daylight and it's still it's
not spring, because it's still very great. Or if it
is spring, it does not look like spring. It still
looks like March at the at the latest. Yeah, yeah,
but it's light. So Derek runs to meet Kai under
the bridge to get ready for the for the for
the public raid and he tells Kay He's not going.
It's dangerous nonsense. Kai should stop it. Kai says, I

(01:43:27):
should have given you up to the police, and Derek
is like, you can walk away from this. You do
not have to keep going. Kai says, I have nothing
but respect and I have to defend it. So Kai
drives away with the rest of the crew and Derek
runs to Sarah's house, but she's already left for the audition.
It is dark out time.

Speaker 2 (01:43:44):
It's nighttime already. When he goes to meet Kai. Yes,
like he from the park to meeting Kai, he like,
daylight has gone.

Speaker 1 (01:43:52):
Daylight has gone.

Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
Yeah, the twilight has ended, and like we.

Speaker 1 (01:43:55):
Are past the gloaming.

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
Why did he even agree to this in the first place.
I know he like, obviously he's not gonna go to
the drive by, but like, there are things that I
could reasonably believe that Derek would agree to because he's
pissed off at Sarah, because he's pissed off at the world,
and he just kind of wants to act out right
like we're gonna go and rob something, but drive by
equals murder?

Speaker 1 (01:44:17):
Correct?

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
The answer is like, so Kai is reaching out to
his friend and being like, would you like to come
with me to murder people?

Speaker 3 (01:44:25):
To a premeditated murder, to a premeditated murder, to ending
the lives of several people, whether they're good people or
bad people?

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
Who cares? It's we're going to a murder and like
and Derek's like, I'm really mad at my girlfriend for
breaking up with me, So yeah, I'm gonna do that.
That sounds like a really good way to blow off
some seam No no movie. I don't believe that Derek
would ever even get close to agreeing to that, Like,

(01:44:54):
this doesn't make any sense. We know now he doesn't
do it. He goes. He shows up and he's like,
don't go to the drive by. So we cut to
Roy driving Sarah to the audition and he waits as
she warms up, and Derek sprints through Chicago. He's on
the l he's on the train. He's trying to catch her. Meanwhile,
we cut to Kai and his crew being so bad

(01:45:16):
at drive bys. I get it, drive bys are not easy,
but you could prepare yourself a little bit better for
the drive by. So they're trying to execute their drive by. Basically,
one of the rival gang members hits Kai's like Kai's
car's gas tank as he's driving away. Because they drive by,

(01:45:37):
they miss everyone. All the guys they were aiming for
are fine. Then those guys are shooting back hard at
the car. They hit the gas tank in the car
kind of like I thought, for a minute, I really
was kind of hoping the movie was going here because
I'm like, I'm like, this is so stupid, Yeah, the car.
I thought the car was going to explode me too.

Speaker 1 (01:45:56):
I thought they were gonna be and kill them all.

Speaker 2 (01:45:59):
Which would have been too dark for this. It would
have been funnier if this was a comedy. But like
it's too dark. But basically the car kind of half explodes,
it like gets on fire. Whoever's driving the car like
swerves and hits another car and now they're like caught
by the cups. So as that's going on, we see
Sarah at her audition, we see the ballet piece. In

(01:46:23):
your opinion, Paul, again, we are not professionals. If you
are a professional dancer or professional choreographer, or if you
even attended Juilliard, reach out and let us know. Do
you think this is good enough to get into Juilliard? Paul?
I pause it No, I don't think this is good
enough to get into the community college. It is the

(01:46:45):
weakest ass ballet audition. She at one point does one
of those like jumps and it just she lands with
a foot. But that's not why we're here, guys, Paul.
Let's get into the contemporary dance piece.

Speaker 1 (01:47:01):
Okay, She brings out her chair. Yeah, for the contemporary
dance piece. I just want this is one of those
like old folding metal chairs that that are in like
every like community rec center. Yep, right, Like that's the
chair we're talking about. Just as Derek rushes in absolutely
one thousand percent would not have been able to get in.
But whatever, he's in there now, the same auditioner as

(01:47:24):
earlier in the.

Speaker 2 (01:47:25):
Movie, same stupid bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:47:27):
That same guy that looks like he got he got
he got drummed out of close up magic college.

Speaker 2 (01:47:36):
That same guy who absolutely sends a coffee order back.

Speaker 1 (01:47:40):
Yes, that guy, that guy again, and this actor is
doing such a good job of portraying that guy. He's
sitting there. There's a couple other people there. Sarah starts
her piece and she stumbles again. She like does this
thing where and she's basically doing like like Warrior three
and she like falls forward as all of us who
do Warrior three have done. However, we are not a
for Julliard, and we do it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:01):
We're I supposed to have the core strength of a seventeen.

Speaker 1 (01:48:03):
Year old exactly. And then and then the yogi teaching
the class goes, when you stumble, that's your body learning.
You're like, thanks, and you can get back up.

Speaker 2 (01:48:10):
Right. No, that's middle aged, right, that's middle age you're
talking about. By the way, when she says stumble, they
cut to the bitch I did. The guy who's auditioning her,
and he goes, oh, he's sneers he's so mean. This
is a person who hates children. You should not do
his job because his job asked like you are auditioning teenagers.

Speaker 1 (01:48:27):
This is a person whose dream it was to go
to Juilliard for dance. He didn't get in, and has
he somehow managed to get a job as the audition
proctor and he.

Speaker 2 (01:48:37):
Gets to jerk off every night to the faces of
disappointment that he's had that day.

Speaker 1 (01:48:41):
She apologizes and he's like, well, are you ready now?
And she she can't speak, like, oh my god, all
of this, her mother and Derek and her father and
her life dreams crumbling around her. She can't speak. Erica,
She's speechless, one might say. And Derek shouts from the
back that she's ready. And the auditioner is what is this?
What is this? And he runs up onto the stage

(01:49:03):
and all the auditioners are like, well, this is not
how we do things at Juilliard, young man. You get
him out of here. We'll get him out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
And he ignores them, and he's like, I'm the choreographer.

Speaker 1 (01:49:11):
Excuse me, I am Alvin Ailey. You twat I shut up.

Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
I have notes.

Speaker 1 (01:49:17):
So he rushes up to the stage and He promises
Sarah that she can do it. He tells her, look,
no one's watching you but me. It's just me and
you here. Baby. The auditioner is like, are you ready,
you tiny little bit, and Sarah's like, I'm ready.

Speaker 2 (01:49:42):
Derek goes into the wings and Sarah starts her piece again. Okay, okay.
This This scene is said to All or Nothing by
Athena Cage.

Speaker 1 (01:49:54):
I really really short interruption here, please the lines. The
line got to work to get the is in this
song and straight adopted to the friend group. You can
add that on after I got Dick for days. You
got to ask for weeks. You gotta work to get
the cream. I think you do that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:10):
You're in I really want to meet our straight OFFTI.
I'm so excited. We're taking guys, We're taking what do
you think his name is? Submissions? I want it to
be it's a street guy name I wanted to be, like,
I mean, Derek would be a good name, right, Derek.

Speaker 1 (01:50:24):
Derek's a straight guy from this movie. I want something,
I want.

Speaker 2 (01:50:27):
Something, yeah, top of Mind.

Speaker 1 (01:50:28):
Yeah, we Salt of the Earth. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah
yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
Like Joe Joe, Joe. This is my friendly Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:50:37):
I actually do have a straight friend, Joe who could
probably pull all of this off.

Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
I want to meet straight friend Joe. I want Joe
Leo Leo. What about a Leo Leo.

Speaker 1 (01:50:46):
I love my straight friend Joe. He's a good guy.

Speaker 2 (01:50:47):
It's a good guy. It's a good guy. Look, we
all have straight men in our lives that are good men.

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
Every once in a while you get a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:50:55):
He's one of the good hashtag not all straights.

Speaker 2 (01:51:00):
This piece blends ballet with hip hop moves. There's chair dancing,
there's she uses the man's spreading. We're like, will the
man's breading come back?

Speaker 1 (01:51:08):
Oh, it'll come back? Fucking does man spreading famously always
comes back.

Speaker 2 (01:51:13):
Derek puts it in the dance. I the only thing
it would have made it better is if they cut
to Derek in the back of the room like a
dance mom doing all that the steps in a half
like half steps.

Speaker 1 (01:51:24):
He's marking the dance.

Speaker 2 (01:51:25):
Yeah, he's marking it with her like hit it, Yes,
she hit it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:30):
I want to talk about this chair, this chair, this
shitty ass folding chair that she is like stepping on
and doing all these that is a death trap. That
is a death Okay, there is a famous there's a
famous song in Chicago when Velma takes the stand and
bib Newirth has said that she has like shoulder damage
from having to carry that chair around because the chair

(01:51:51):
was so heavy. Because the chair needs to be heavy
because you have a grown woman flipping and taking her
life over in her hands all the way over it.
Oh so ned have a heavy chair, so doesn't fucking
fall or move while she's doing that. Right this chair,
she would be dead. She would have broken her neck.
Two arabesques into this piece.

Speaker 2 (01:52:08):
She does that move that you see and like where
she puts like she like knocks over the chair while
she's dancing on it. Like yeah, like that that chair
would have just slipped out from under our and slid
fifty feet across the stage. Alas, despite the fact that
Paul and Erica are duly unimpressed, yeah, yeah, the judges
are all duly impressed.

Speaker 1 (01:52:28):
They're like, well, what are these? Is that a man spread?

Speaker 2 (01:52:32):
Is that a man I've never seen it, I've never
seread that before.

Speaker 1 (01:52:34):
Oh my gosh, I've never seen one in competition.

Speaker 2 (01:52:36):
What is this hip hop? I've heard of this. If
my children have told me about hip hop, I've just
never seen it before. The judges are so into her.
She finishes and she's like thank you, and Derek's like
whoa from her side, he rushes the stage, he hugs her,
Sarah thanks the judges. The absolute prick of a judge.

(01:52:59):
He takes his God he's wearing glasses. He moves them
down on the bridge of his nose. He goes, miss Johnson,
I can't say this on the record yet, but welcome
to Juilliard. Look, let's talk about it. Like obviously that
would never happen, but in my brain. He says that
to her, and she's like, fuck, yeah, I got into Juilliard.
And then literally five Misty Copelands come in right after

(01:53:21):
her and blow her out of the water.

Speaker 3 (01:53:24):
And then they're like, oh shit, oh shit, well well
we can We're never gonna see her again.

Speaker 2 (01:53:28):
We're only gonna take five girls from the Chicago area,
and those other five were geniuses.

Speaker 1 (01:53:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:53:34):
Then they're like, oh, remember when we said that part.

Speaker 1 (01:53:36):
Sorry, sorry. They're positing that she is so good that
there is no way that anyone else. Maybe she was
the last audition of the day because it is now
approximately eleven o'clock at night.

Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
It's they're angry. They're just letting people into Juilliard. They're like,
like I could murder a deep dish pizza. Let's go,
let's go quickly.

Speaker 1 (01:53:53):
Little fact about Juilliard. The dance, the dance. The dance
section is actually two hundred people, but they cut one
hundred and seventy five of them the first day. No,
I'm sorry, you weren't meant to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
Sarah and Derek embrace. Yes, victory for all.

Speaker 1 (01:54:09):
They head back home. They head to Maine Squeeze night
at Steps, which is definitely not prom.

Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
And she's not wearing a dress.

Speaker 1 (01:54:14):
She's not wearing a dress, Hanil, speaking of what people
are wearing, Okay, I haven't been to a club in
a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:54:21):
I'm told one would never know, Paul, Yeah, one would
absolutely never know based on everything about you, that you
have not been to a nightclub in a minute.

Speaker 1 (01:54:32):
However, there was a time in my twenties where I
did go to clubs and I did like dancing, And
one of my absolute clearest memories is how fucking hot
it is inside there.

Speaker 2 (01:54:42):
Every time they cut to the club. Shanil is wearing
fourteen layers of clothes.

Speaker 1 (01:54:46):
She's wearing an actual long winter coat. Looks amazing to
be clear, but like, you wouldn't wear that in a club.
It's too hot.

Speaker 2 (01:54:53):
It's so hot. It's Satan's asshole, is there? Like yeah, absolutely?

Speaker 1 (01:54:57):
No, okay. So and Neil congratulates Sarah on her acceptance.
They hug their friends again, and then they all head
out onto the dance floor to do someone more that
hip hop dancing.

Speaker 2 (01:55:10):
Yeah, Sarah, go Sarah, Go Sarah.

Speaker 1 (01:55:13):
Oh, white Girl so embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (01:55:16):
This movie should have been called Go White Girl instead.
Saved the Last Dance should have been called go White Girl,
Go White Girl.

Speaker 1 (01:55:26):
If no one pitched that is that is a That
is a massive fail.

Speaker 2 (01:55:30):
It's the same person who wrote It's an A and
B conversation, So see yourself out and put it in
the mouth of a seventeen year old boy.

Speaker 1 (01:55:38):
All right, everyone, That is the end of Save the
Last Dance. Stick around. We will be right back with
our random observations and final rankings.

Speaker 2 (01:55:54):
And we're back. Paul. I'm gonna put my chair away
and ask you if you have any observations about this film.

Speaker 1 (01:56:02):
Uh yeah, I'm gonna start with a serious one, and
then we're gonna we're gonna slide into the stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:56:05):
Got it, Okay, mine is gonna be all stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:56:08):
Okay, perfect because you know what we.

Speaker 2 (01:56:09):
Didn't celebrate enough, I think during the recap portion of
our show is how completely stupid this movie is true.
And honestly that's a feature, not a bug. Yeah, like
you want you want your like Ernest High School for
dramas to be also pretty stupid, pretty pretty fucking stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:56:24):
If they get too serious, it's no fun. Yeah, all right.
So in that very first English class where she first
meets Derek, there is a moment where the teacher is
asking the class like what did Truman Capoti do? Like
what what made him special? Or whatever? Yeah, and Snookie,
this is when we first meet. Snookie is like, yo,
he was gay. He had a sweet tooth, right, which
is pretty funny. And then he keeps going with like

(01:56:44):
the the homophobia, you know, like yeah, it's it's not
like the worst homophobia ever, like, but he's just like
making fun of the fact that he's gay, right.

Speaker 2 (01:56:52):
Which means Snookie also never read James Baldwin. Derek.

Speaker 1 (01:56:55):
Yeah, good point. So the teacher is like, okay, great,
we can and we can promote you to kindergarten enough.
So I would just like to submit that this is fine.
I am fine with all of this.

Speaker 2 (01:57:06):
Too, right. I think he's I'm pretty sure he does.

Speaker 1 (01:57:09):
Again a situation where like, yeah, that's what a kid
in two thousand and one would say, And it wasn't
The actor did a good job of It wasn't like
he was disgusted by it. He was trying to be
a class clown with it. So it was it was
low key and the teacher.

Speaker 2 (01:57:26):
He's clowning on Truman Capoti.

Speaker 1 (01:57:27):
Yes, yeah, exactly, and Truman Capote would obviously unhinches drawn
swallow the kid hole, right, but the teacher shuts it
down and like in a way, and the and then
the class just drops it. And I just thought that
was a very good way of like because people are like, well,
that's how it was in two thousand and one. People
said that. I was like, true, and this is a
way to demonstrate how you can shut such a thing down.
So I just thought that was a it was a

(01:57:48):
good moment that didn't in any way like co sign
any of like the homophobia stuff going on. It was
like this this is who this kid is. This kid
would say something like that, yeah, and that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:57:58):
Well let me start with my most serious one for
he's a little out of order. But like that sex scene, great,
no real problems to it at all. I didn't have
any real problems with it. I thought it was really
elegantly portrayed for young people, you know, lots of consent everywhere, wonderful.
If I had a note, though, it would be for

(01:58:20):
the person underscoring the scene with this song true Colors.
I get it, they're interracial. I see your true Colors,
but it's about something else. It's so lame and on
the nose and horrible. And there's no way either of
these two kids listens to that music. Like neither of
them is like, hang on, let me put on my

(01:58:40):
Cyndi Lauper Fuck mix.

Speaker 1 (01:58:42):
Well, do you realize that's a cover?

Speaker 2 (01:58:43):
It is a cover. Yeah, I get that, part two,
but no, bad.

Speaker 1 (01:58:47):
Bad, bad song choice fair enough.

Speaker 2 (01:58:50):
I do not like this song. This song choice killed
my boner.

Speaker 1 (01:58:56):
Do you remember Lindsay Prayer Prayer Forward Lindsay's second moment
in the movie, so she has that first scene basically
disappears from the movie and then we have one phone
call between between Sarah and Lindsay. This is after the
first dance montage. So Sarah has just been in the cafeteria.

(01:59:16):
She's learned how to stand, she has learned how to sit.
She has demonstrated some ballet moves for Derek, and he
thinks ballet is a big deal. Yeah, and now then
she we cut back to her in the apartment and
the she is in media res and a phone call
with Lindsay, and Lindsay says, I'm just going to I'm
just gonna do this conversation for everybody. Did you see
anyone get shot yet? Cool? No, I didn't move to Bosnia. Jesus, Sarah,

(01:59:41):
you're in the freaking ghetto. Forget about the drive bys.
How are you supposed to meet anybody? Well? I did
meet somebody. Actually, he's pretty cool. They got white guys
at your school.

Speaker 2 (01:59:52):
Excellent. That honestly is pretty good writing. Except for that.
Have you seen anyone get shot yet? That's even your
dumbest Why it's not going to be that dump another
stupid one. Yeah, this is not This is a little
the actress fault. We've said wonderful things about Terry Kenny
who plays Roy. He cannot convincingly carry suitcases up up.

(02:00:16):
There is nothing in those suitcases. He is carrying them
like they are made of air. Like a teenage girl
didn't cram everything she owns into two suitcases.

Speaker 1 (02:00:25):
That house was big that she came from too. How
much shit did they did they make her get rid of?
You live with her dad?

Speaker 2 (02:00:30):
So sad?

Speaker 1 (02:00:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:00:31):
Yeah, Like that girl didn't have to jump on that
suitcase to fit all her shit in there. This guy
is just like swinging them up the stairs like they
weigh nothing.

Speaker 1 (02:00:40):
You notice that in her first Juilliard audition, they have
a placard out and they misspelled Juilliard.

Speaker 2 (02:00:44):
No, no, oh my god, No, I didn't see it.

Speaker 1 (02:00:50):
It's j It's they spell that j u l l
i a r d. It should be j u I
l l i a r d.

Speaker 2 (02:00:57):
Is it the only time anyone spells Julliard?

Speaker 1 (02:00:59):
I believe so.

Speaker 2 (02:01:00):
So that means they got it wrong one hundred percent
of the time correct, not not fifty percent or twenty
five percent. One percent of the time that they showed
the word Juilliard is incorrect. Maybe they had to maybe
like the high school where they can't legally say oh, yeah,
high school. They're like, it's not that Juilliard.

Speaker 1 (02:01:19):
This is the other Juilliard in the yard.

Speaker 2 (02:01:20):
It's the other school named Juilliard. Yeah, I just have
one more. And it's I'm trying to decipher what the
fuck this means. There's a scene like after after they're
dancing in the club the first time, Derek is like
trying to get trying to like flirt with Sarah and
he goes, let's go braveheart. What what does that mean?

Speaker 1 (02:01:40):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (02:01:40):
Is it because of her outfits? Because she's wearing like
like like a Tartan looking like oh maybe She even
says my clothes are from the Gap, and I'm like,
maybe the Gap at that point was doing a lot
of like Tartan colors.

Speaker 1 (02:01:53):
You know, I heard that line and I think I
meant it. I think he I think I interpreted as
him like calling her like scared to dance?

Speaker 2 (02:02:01):
But how is that brave heart?

Speaker 1 (02:02:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:02:03):
I was like she's kind of being like pugnacious with
him at the bar where she's just like, yeah, I'm
gonna fight back with you or whatever. He's like, let's
go brave heart, because you're a fighter. I don't know,
genuinely confused.

Speaker 1 (02:02:15):
Well, don't you know, she screamed in his face. You
can take my life, but you can never take my freedom.

Speaker 2 (02:02:20):
Did forget to mention she came to the club with
blue covering off her face.

Speaker 1 (02:02:24):
Yeah, she kept calling him sugar ticks?

Speaker 2 (02:02:26):
Yeah? No, no, she covered she covered her face in
blue paint, and she didn't have a broad sword. Yeah. Oh,
I just got where you came up with sugar tips.
I think that was absolutely not a movie, brave heart, Paul,
How shall we rank Save the Last Dance?

Speaker 1 (02:02:38):
One to ten? Tickle dicks. If you put crazy eyebrows
on your dick, it's a whipple dick.

Speaker 2 (02:02:44):
It's a if you if you put if you put
little dots on it, it's a nipple dick.

Speaker 1 (02:02:50):
If you hold up, if you hold up two mirrors
on either side of it, you can make a triple
deck a trip dick, A trip dick.

Speaker 2 (02:02:57):
Here, even better, it's an actual trip dick. How about
one to ten? Eleven thirty pm at night auditions?

Speaker 1 (02:03:05):
I loved those. I do remember a couple of times
when I was acting. If you're auditioning for like a
student film at Columbia, they'd be like, your audition's at
ten pm, and I'd be like, no, it's not I'm like,
I'm not doing that.

Speaker 2 (02:03:17):
I'm not getting co code. I watched Fame. I know
what happens at ten pm in an audition room. Try again,
try I'm not taking this shirt off.

Speaker 1 (02:03:25):
One to ten straight adoptees named Kyle.

Speaker 2 (02:03:29):
Named Tafur.

Speaker 1 (02:03:30):
Tofur, that's it, named straight adoptees named Tafur. We got there. Finally,
One to.

Speaker 2 (02:03:38):
Ten chairs that got into Juilliard.

Speaker 1 (02:03:40):
The dancing was incredible, but the chair, that fucking chair
that transcended. Yeah, I saw God in that chair.

Speaker 2 (02:03:47):
That chair is the next Martha Graham.

Speaker 1 (02:03:49):
Did you see it doing the thing from bird Cage
Martha Graham, Martha Graham, Madonna, Madonna, and he kept it
all inside, all inside, all inside. Let's do this one, Okay,
this one makes us happy. I think, do you want
to go first? There? Shall I go first?

Speaker 2 (02:04:01):
I'll go first on this one, go for it. I
think it actually ages pretty well. I'm trying to think of, like,
how many high school films had an interracial romance at
the center of them up until two thousand and one,
And I don't know if that I can I really
genuinely can't think of any off the top of my head.
We're also they were like this is the thing. Yeah,
Like it's the point of the movie. It's like, this

(02:04:23):
movie's not really about dance, it's about like acceptance. So
it makes a level of sense that they hit the
nail on the head a lot about it, right that,
Like every character seems to have an opinion except for God,
bless him Roy, Thank God Roy is the only character
who's like, I have no opinion about you, and you're

(02:04:45):
a black boyfriend, But like every other character having an opinion,
and like the struggle she feels about being judged for
it and like feeling guilty in a way. Like all
of that makes sense, even if it is a little cringey,
because I feel like, hopefully we've moved past this conversation
in cinema, not even in life, but just in cinema,
we've moved past this conversation. But you have to give

(02:05:07):
the movie credit for possibly being one of the earlier ones.
And again, I'm talking about the high school genre, so
I get it. Like, if that's the message, you really
want to be crystal clear with it, it's cringey now
to watch it, and it's a little like retrograde now
because we're twenty five years ahead of it all in
all the movies, Hard is in the right place. I
think there are some stereotypes. I'm gonna let you talk

(02:05:31):
about that since you brought it up earlier, But like,
and I agree with you, I think there are some
like uncomfortable and like first idea stereotypes in the movie
that maybe we could have finessed nuanced a touch a
little bit more. But you know what a plus for effort,
I would say, thank you for Carrie Washington for carrying

(02:05:51):
the emotional weight of this film on your back, on
your very beautiful shoulders. Thank you, Bianca Lawson, just for
being you, just for existing, bless you. Thank you. I
hope she did. I hope she agedes well. Like as
much as I've talked about how much I love this woman,
I genuinely don't know anything about her.

Speaker 1 (02:06:08):
I mean, she played teenagers until.

Speaker 2 (02:06:09):
She was forty two, except that she's so hot.

Speaker 1 (02:06:14):
We may get a ceasing desist letter from her agent.

Speaker 2 (02:06:16):
But you know what, it's not a problem. I don't
have a problem you guys. But good female characters pass
the Bechdel test with flying colors. Yeah, I'm gonna give
it an eight. Okay, yeah, I want to give it more,
but as a white girl, I'm not sure I might
be missing some shit that I'm like, a black woman's like,

(02:06:37):
girl miss that, and I'm like, oh, you're right, I
did miss that. So I'm gonna tentatively give it an
eight because I just don't want to fuck this one
up and be that girl. So yeah, eight out of
ten chairs that fucking nailed their Juilliard auditions. Okay, how
about you?

Speaker 1 (02:06:54):
Uh yeah, I agree mostly with what you're saying, Like
great female representation, there's no gay representation to speak of.
The little the little gay moment in the class is
really all that happens, and I would say it's handled well.
I don't know what to do with the stereotypes like
like they are. They are I think broadly considered to

(02:07:15):
be harmful stereotypes, but while they are not nuanced, they
are they are still like stories that are being told,
and at that time, the one that pops most strongly
to mind is the teen mother. I think they deal
with that well because a she's shown being a good
and caring mother who cares for her child and it's
not ruining her life. Perhaps there were choices she wouldn't

(02:07:37):
have made earlier if this is where it was gonna
wind up. But like she loves her son, she's very
happy with her son. She's still going to school, she
still has a future.

Speaker 3 (02:07:45):
Like it's it's so, I think that's saving up for school,
saving up for school for design school.

Speaker 2 (02:07:49):
She wants to be a clothing designer.

Speaker 1 (02:07:50):
Yeah, so I think I think that's I think from
my perspective, that is a net positive. I would say,
I would say the black kid who's on the wrong path,
who doesn't get off the path's a drug dealer. And
the drive by like that stuff I think is a
little harder to swallow.

Speaker 2 (02:08:08):
You also go too hard.

Speaker 1 (02:08:09):
They go too hard on it, right, Like I wish
it wasn't it didn't escalate to drive bys, like if
they had kept it more.

Speaker 2 (02:08:16):
Like selling drugs. Drug that's bad enough, ye talking about
it like it's not a big deal. It is bad
enough that he's like just to.

Speaker 1 (02:08:23):
Have him do that, and like getting into fights in
the clubs and finally eventually Derek is like, I'm not fighting,
Like that guy didn't do anything you're just starting fights
or something like. I get that that like takes the
drama out of it, but like it it reads as
very like dare program. I guess, like to me, now.

Speaker 2 (02:08:42):
You take one puff of weed, next thing you know,
you're doing drive back.

Speaker 1 (02:08:46):
Yeah. If you had told me at seven that if
I smoke me and I would wind up pregnant, I
probably would have believed you.

Speaker 2 (02:08:51):
If you if you smoke weed, you're gonna end up
in a drive by the next day.

Speaker 1 (02:08:55):
Yeah. Yeah, So I don't like you said. We're two
white people talking about we might be missing things, and
we apologize if we are. We're trying to be as
holistically thoughtful as possible. I think that the movie's a
net positive, like it is pushing the genre forward. I'm
gonna give it a seven. I want to give it

(02:09:16):
a seven out of ten chairs that absolutely the extension
on those legs is it's enough. It's enough. You're in
Juliard already chair with the caveat that we might be
missing something. But I think it's a net positive, and
I think that the movie's heart is very much in
the right place.

Speaker 2 (02:09:33):
It's a little bit of a time capsule piece. It's
very two thousand and one.

Speaker 1 (02:09:37):
It's very like, it's very It reminded me of Friends.
We talked about. Friends were like, oh, Friends like had
the first lesbian wedding on TV, and friends like one
glad Awards, and now we're like, well, Friends is fucking homophobic.
All things can be true.

Speaker 2 (02:09:52):
Well, it reminds me of our conversation years ago about
American Pie. Yeah, where like, yeah, American Pie is deeply problematic,
but at the time it was it really moved the
needle into like sex positivity in a conversation, and it
really there were a lot of girl characters that you'd
never see before in like a fun sex romp movie. Yeah,
it was like that was great and so like so like, yeah,

(02:10:15):
there's problems now, but at the time it if it
moves the needle, I think we should give it credit.

Speaker 1 (02:10:21):
Yeah. Yeah, And I don't think any of this stuff
in this movie ages into offensive. It just ages into like, okay,
like it still little retrograde, tone deaf. Yeah, and so
I think I think it deserves a high score. So
I'm gonna give it a seven out of ten. Yeah,
I'm not going to offer a palate cleanser.

Speaker 2 (02:10:37):
Please watch that Chloe Fine min sketch on Saturday Night
Live just Google. Look, I'm gonna spoil something, but there
is a cameo that you do not want to miss
in that It's not even a sketch, it's her on
weekend up date.

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Speaker 1 (02:11:56):
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Speaker 2 (02:11:56):
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Of our patreon come with Thanks from a podcast character
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It's been a while, hasn't it. But don't worry. Thanks
to my high point, I've not only enjoyed the rich,
deep flava of instant coffee, I've also never slept better
in my life. Why because it's decaffeinated. I know in
the months that have passed since I last visited, that
you've covered my performance in nineteen ninety six is the
Mirror Has Two Faces? Otherwise known as the film I

(02:13:12):
should have won my Oscar for Perhaps if I had
that year wouldn't have been so cursed. Best Actor Jeffrey
Rush problematic, Best Supporting Actor, Kuba Gooding Junior problematic. Best
Supporting Actress Juliette Binoche nothing yet but she's French. Let

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her cook? Oh no'sat But I'm not here to talk
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across the telegraph? MM? A report that Juliette Binoche has
stated that we shouldn't forget that Harvey Weinstein was a
great producer. Well, darlings, I don't want to say I
told you so. I want to say Jette laddie, which
is I told you so in French, at least according
to this magical typewriter in front of me. Remember, award

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your legends while you have the chance. Hashtag Audre was robbed,
and keep your coffee decaffeinated.

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For someone who drinks only decaffeinated coffee. She is sprightly,
yeah that one.

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And she's also dead and dead. Yeah, and dead. You
keep forgetting dead.

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Shown up here, dead, and she has more energy than
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Correct. It is a miracle, a miracle that God himself
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Excellent, excellent, Yes.

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Erica, any final thoughts on Save the Last Dance.

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I'm just going to lower my glasses to the bridge
of my nose and look you up and down and say, Paul, yes, look.
I can't say this officially, but welcome to podcasting. She
apparently made so little on Save the Last Dance that

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she had to go back to working as a substitute
teacher after the film had finished. After the film had
finished wrapped, we try that again.

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