November 8, 2024 • 42 mins
This week I'm back with a BONUS October Sessions episode alongside Adirondack photographer, Jonathan Zaharek, to talk about a very recent possible Bigfoot encounter in the High Peaks on the trail to Allen Mountain. This encounter happened just one week ago!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, what's up everyone. It's James and I just want
to let you know that I'm about to launch sign
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success that I'm gonna get another team launched this year.
So if you want to join in, you want to
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can have better mountain adventures. This team training program is
(00:23):
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(00:45):
name to the early bird list so you will get
first DIBs to sign up when the launch officially happens.
It's coming soon. We're gonna end the year with a bang.
So we go into twenty twenty five with an enormous
amount of momentum. All right, let's get into this week's episode.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
This is the forty six and forty six podcast October Sessions,
where we'll talk all things spooky and Irondacks and more,
from bigfoot encounters on the NPT to ghostly sightings in
the trees. We'll dive deep into the heart of these
mountains and the people who dare to climb them. From
Adirondack bigfoots to haunted lakeside bar huts. It's all here
(01:32):
on the forty six of forty six October Sessions.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Hello everyone, and welcome back to the forty six of
forty six podcast. I am here with a bonus October
Sessions episode today. I know we are into November now,
but something happened recently that warranted an episode that we
have to talk about. I'm talking about a very recent
and meaning six days ago bigfoot encounter that happened here
(02:12):
in the Adirondack Mountains at a place that a guest
on this podcast has also experienced a bigfoot story. So
I said, don't tell me the story, come to the studio.
Let's do an episode so I can hear it in
real time and actually dive in because this is the
time of year where I always hear these bigfoot stories,
So this is like an October Sessions bonus episode today
(02:33):
with none other than fan favorite mister Jonathan Zaharic. Jonathan,
Welcome to Shed Corterers and welcome back to the forty
six to forty six podcasts were probably the tenth time.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I don't know, I don't even know. It's good to
have you though, but you know, it's very easy to
just be here and communicate. Drive right over and you know,
pop some good content out.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah. So yesterday we drove down the street. I helped
you deliver some calendar so you have some calendars.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
All the calendars are out and even at the time
of this record hoarding all sold out, all sold everything
sold out except for a couple of brick and mortar
stories around town.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
But I love it.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, so that's good.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Proud of you do it. You're doing great stuff. So
if you don't know, Jonathan has a calendars of his
photography for sale on his website. Obviously they're sold out,
but uh, there's pictures at Shed Quarters from Jonathan. Fantastic stuff.
Check out his website for unbelievable shots of the Adirondack Park,
including these like snowleage photos you got this year, which
I can't wait till my next one comes in that
(03:28):
you ordered for me, But I'm.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Still living off the high of that week.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
It was the most like I don't think I've ever
been like I think I see. I was telling people.
Out of the three days that that occurred, that three
day window, I think less than one hour of accumulated
time I spent in my apartment outside of sleep. It
was just go, go go.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, I bet. I mean just driving around town, just
looking up at the mountains.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
We're like, oh, I'm probably I probably spent five hundred
miles driving all around.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Unbelievable. You had you chartered a plane too, right.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yep, yep, yeah, call yeah yeah. Shameless plugged the Adirondack
Flying Service. A lot of people actually ask me about that,
and it's something that they offer. So if anyone here
listening wants to take a plane up into the high peaks,
they do scenic plates over at the Lake Placid Airport.
As for Chris Tolm, Jonathan sent you, they'll hook you up.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Not a shameless plugs. It's a service that somebody provides
that creates an amazing adventure. I haven't flown with him,
but I have had a podcast guest who flies take
me up for a trip around the high peaks, and
it is unbelievable. I cannot recommend it enough. If you
come up, if you have you know, decent weather, absolutely
amazing experience. So tell me, tell the listeners what you
(04:36):
told me and why we're here to talk today.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
So for any we'll say veteran listeners here, they'll remember
years ago, in twenty twenty, I did a couple of
attempts at the forty six on supported through hike, and
in my experiences I had some very cryptic events happened
to me that actually left me pretty I mean, I
don't know, I want to use the words lightly here,
(05:01):
but definitely a little bit of like hikers fear of
the dark PTSD type of thing. And so since then
it's just been, you know, and I've grown a little
thick to it since you know, it's been a while,
and nothing's really happened to me since. But my experiences
out in the you know, the Allen Mountain area, which
is near the Upper Works trail head, and particularly in
(05:21):
the region the first mile or so from the trailhead
Lake Jimmy to Lake Sally area. The first time I
went out there, all by myself alone at night, eleven pm,
after through hiking from Corey's Road in the Seward Range.
You know, I had an experience where something very large
was standing off in the distance between me, the trees
and the lake. Couldn't see it, and it was throwing
(05:43):
insanely big rocks like I think I claimed basketball size,
Like you could clearly tell they were rocks. It wasn't
like a beaver slap thing. It was enough to scare
me to the point where I actually took out my
SOS beacon and held it in a hand and I
felt petrified. I just I just had a gut feeling
that like there was something there that that was trying
to make it known that it was there. Kept going.
(06:06):
This thing was like I could hear that it was
moving and things like that, and then you know that
was that. That was that first time, But then the
second time, well, and I.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Gotta pause you before you move on to the second time.
So before we move on to that point, I get
people constantly making comments or references to that story of
that episode of you experiencing this thing out in the woods.
Whether some people believe, yeah, it probably was bigfoot. Some
people believe, ah, it was it was a It was
(06:36):
a beaver slapping the woods or slapping the water, but
quite frankly like a beaver slap and a boulder thunking
into the water drastically sure.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
And I want to say I want to be the first,
not the first to say this, but I want to
be the first from my perspective. This just to say,
I have never claimed that this thing is a bigfoot
because I didn't see it with my eyes. And I
actually tell myself, if I went to that sound and looked,
I would have saw nothing that I taught myself, you know,
So I don't know. All I know is I was
terrified and I couldn't explain what was happening.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I'm the one saying that it was probably a big
foot encounter because I've heard these stories for years on
other podcasts of the same type of thing. Plus, let's
be honest, who is out there at Like? What time?
Was there were no cars at the trailhead, no audrailhead
around eleven pm in middle of the week, middle of
the week at the on the Allen Mountain trail tossing
(07:26):
giant boulders into the water. How bizarre. It seems more
likely that something sure.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Going into the woods, like it was more than just water,
you know.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Sure, But anyways, a fascinating story. What episode was that
we were talking about? Was that your very first I
don't remember what it's called, but uh, if you just
scroll through the podcast and look for all the summit
sessions and find Jonathan zaheric FKT something. Yeah, I probably
called it like failed f KT or something, I don't remember.
I will say give James some grace for using very
(08:00):
very small, rocky splash sounds in the episode, because it
sounded like he was, you know, throwing a little soft ball.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Into the water.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
But yeah, sure, much bigger than that. Well, I at
least at least you noticed that I put some sound effects, right.
It's kind of it's kind of my thing here at
the forty six to forty six podcasts.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
But just to give give some more context, you know,
that whole situation like just caught me off guard, which
kind of left me stunned, which brought me to the
which brought interest about the subject because it was that
unique for me. I was, you know, but then you know,
a month later I went back out there again to
attempt to sing a second time a little bit more
under the radar.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I remember dropping you off at the trail again.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
But this time I kid you not walking the road
between Santononi and that Alex Trail, which is one mile
section there on the Tahawis Road, right there where the
Hudson is, where the water was still again the sound
of rocks, now that one could have been beaver slaps
right there, but like the water displacement was crazy. And
(08:58):
then I was freaking out. I was like, I'm just
gonna keep going. And then I kept going, and then
I started hearing these things, well multiple things, sorry, just
one thing. Once I actually got in between like Jimmy
and Lake Sally, I started hearing what sounded like something
pacing me in the woods. I just started freaking out.
I looked down. I just said, no, not today. I
kept going. I kept going in about a mile after
(09:19):
Lake Sally. I was like, I was just so exhausted,
so tired, and I just started setting up my hammock.
I was like shaking. I was like, I have to
sleep out here tonight. And then right as I was
sitting up my hammock full grown, it sounded like a tree,
not a branch, but like a tree, probably like twelve
to sixteen inches in circumference at least just ripping down
(09:39):
in the woods, probably less than one hundred yards For me,
I couldn't physically see it fall, but all of those
things just happening, and that that second time was you know,
rocks or the you know with the water and then
the thing pacing me and then the tree. And that's
a hard thing to believe. It's you know, but it
was a windless night. Nothing, it was just right there,
quiet of the woods. Just you know, I'm just like, dude, what.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Is going on?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, very unnerve It's just yeah, it's just a very
unnerving situation. These are you know, what we might from
the sasquatch realm call these things maybe a B minus
or a C plus, you know, encounter nothing that really
warrants you know, like, oh this is undoubtedly a sasquatch
or it's.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Just yes, there's towards it. There's logical explanations. Maybe the
tree fell over, but again when you take all of
the details and add them all together, it seems like
maybe it was something else. Obviously it could have been
a tree happened to fall in the clear knife.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
But anyways, Hey, everybody, my name is Annie. I'm from Severn, Maryland,
just outside of Baltimore. I joined the Great Range Athlete
team because I wanted to step up from just taking
walks in the woods to kind of undertaking more serious hikes.
I also wanted to feel stronger and tackling all these
(10:54):
challenges by myself and doing all these climbs by myself
as well. I got exactly what I was looking for.
Like James says, you get out what you put in,
and I was all in. So when I opened up
to the team with my struggles, I was met with
support and I just watched myself get stronger in body
(11:17):
and determination. The program last six weeks, but it's something
that is going to stay with me well into the
future anyways.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
So I have a story here because since I came
out about this, many people, especially during that timeline within
this first episode came out, people were actually coming to
me about their own experiences out there. In fact, I
even had a gentleman reach out to me that used
to have a hunting camp out on White Lily Pond,
which is about a mile to the northwest of Borius Pond,
(11:50):
right at the base of Allen There on that really
remote side all back there in that corridor. And he
said every year when he would go back there in
the winter time, there would be a sasquatch or two
back there, and he would go out. He'd be like
hunting for the day, like in December, in the beginning
of December, and he'd be out there and these things
(12:11):
like the sasquatch, he said, like would be like like
bothering him, like and he would like be running back
to his place, and then the thing would come to
his camp and it would like pace around his cabin.
He'd come out in the morning, see the prince everywhere.
This thing would be like banging on the cabin. There's
something out there that definitely didn't like him, you know.
He said that would happen, that happened for many years
(12:33):
at a time. And you know, there are other people
telling me about things pacing them. And of course we
got black bears and whatever. But I think I counted
I can't remember them all off hand, but five or
six specific people came out and told me that things
within that region that happened to them. And you know what,
there's a lot of things that if you're gonna start
believing in sasquatch then there's a lot of other things
that you're gonna have to kind of accept as well
(12:53):
with that subject that you don't think right off the bat.
For example, is there paranormal stuff along with that? You know,
is sasquatch natural? Is it supernatural? And well, you know
that ranger cabin that's back there by lake Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I'll tell you that thing is creepy.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
And every single time I pass it, I don't like
looking at it. Something about it just does not.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
It's very unnerving. Like we just talked about, like it
is it has that vibe that's just like and I
actually say it in the very first season of the
podcast when I first hiked Alan and again it was
I don't know, five o'clock in the morning, dark raining.
I remember even writing this story, like I walked up
to it and then I said, ah, no, never mind,
I'm gonna keep going.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Maybe it's just a creepy cabin.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
It is. It's a cabin in the woods. You're not
expecting it if you don't know it's there. But also
like when you do look into it, it just has
like a memoris of that of a weird vibe that's all.
That's the only way to describe it, like course.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Energy holding onto it.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, and people talk about these energies all throughout the
park too. Actually we just the last episode the guest
talked all about it, Dennis Webster. But uh, that that
is just so remote out there, like we think too.
It's like, oh, you're a mile from the trailhead, okay,
but you're also like twenty two miles back into the
woods from like a main road. On top of them,
(14:04):
you're now a mile from from a kind of road
which is the Tawist Road, which is probably like the
worst road in the air on Deck Park needs to
needs a paved job.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
By the way, if you want to go back there
in the next week or so, I'll go back with you.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
We probably should plan a trip. I'll do it, they would.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I mean, now is the time of year, like, it's
it's late, right, it gets dark late. And by the way,
this experience happened to this guy right around five to
six pm, so you didn't even have to be back
there late. Sure, so we can go back there if
you want.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I actually want to hear a little bit more before
we hear this story. So basically Jonathan's gonna tell me
a story that someone just sent him that happened to
him within the last week out in that same exact area,
Vanderwacker Wild Forest. That's where Allan is right now, part.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Of now it's technically it's it's Central Hype. Okay, fander
Wrecker's just to the south of it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Okay, got it so out in that general area super
remote obviously, if you've hiked Alan, you know it's super
remote out there. But this just happened in the last week.
So that's why Jonathan's here. We have to hear this story.
I haven't heard anything about it yet. I want to
hear it for the first time in the podcast. But
I also aways wanted to talk a little bit about this.
But before we get to that, tell me a little
bit more about the hunter that shared this story and
(15:13):
some of those other stories that people shared with you
after you did this podcast episode and told about your story,
because you just mentioned like five or six people told
you what happened to them.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, everything. I mean, it was everything from people being like, dude, listen,
something stuck with me out there. I had a terrible feeling,
and I think one of these people were talking about
in the middle of the day too, is that I
had a terrible feeling that something was watching me out there,
and then of course pacing in the woods, this guy.
You know, I have the message somewhere on Facebook. I'm
(15:43):
sure I could go back and find it and he'll,
you know, he explains it to me what was going on,
and you know that was it was before like smartphones
and things like that. So I don't think he had
any pictures or stuff of these prints or whatever. But
then the easements change, Yeah, that get pushed out. But
you know, you know, I've had people even tell me
things have happened out near the sewards. This whole, this
whole line, you know, because if you think about it,
(16:05):
let's theoretically say that Sasquatch is a flesh and blood
creature and that they do roam the forest to the northeast,
but they're extremely rare, extremely elusive for whatever reason. Sure,
if they do exist in the Adirondacks, I think I
would say, in just my opinion, I would say there's
a dozen or less that are even living and thriving here,
because I don't think it's it's the most welcoming environment
(16:29):
for them because of how little amount of a lot
of things there are, and just because there's not a
lot of people, I think there's a lot, you know,
and if there's not a lot of sasquatch, then they're
not going to breed, you know. So it's like there's
not a lot of stuff to support a I guess
you could say, ah, a a family. Well, I guess true.
(16:50):
What's the what's the word called like they're if they're here,
I think it's because they're migrating through, or they're coming through,
or it might be you know, an old place that
they used to come to, and so when they come
from Vermont, they want to avoid the high peaks, so
they'll come just to the south of them, you know.
I mean, that's could be the reason why they might
be in this area, why they might be seen in
the Speculator region super commonly, because it's all in the
(17:12):
southern region that most of those encounters are.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Sure the high peaks are brutal. Although I actually disagree
and feel people you know, have their theories that this
is like a just a passing through. To me, it's like,
why would they leave. They literally have everything they could
ever need.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
They could be dang.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Off, they could be obviously this is just you know,
theories here, but you have everything that they could possibly
need right here. And these are animals that live outdoors,
live in the winter, like they're they're fine. The people
talk about all the brutal winters here. Yeah, but they're fine,
They're fine.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Most of them live in Northern Canada anyway.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Every animal lives outside, so I have no doubt that
they'll survive just fine, are at Aroondack winters. But anyways, Yeah,
fascinating stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
And do you think over the last twenty to thirty
years there have been almost I think it was there's
almost one hundred verifiable accounts of south Quatch encounteries within
the Adirondacks, and even one in recent years by the
DC themselves up in Do.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
You know this story?
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah, yeah, the d e C one Yeah, tell me, yeah, Well,
I think I think it's Saint Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
So I think it's St. Lawrence County, Saint Lawrence northwest
of here. I don't know which direction it is. It
is like it's outside the the high Peaks. It's it's more.
I mean, if you're going to you go through Saint
Lawrence County. I believe when you're heading to like the potsdam.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Right, Yeah, yeah, so Saint Lawrence County. I'm pretty sure
it was Sat.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Lawrence. Yeah, yeah, that is that would be northwest, yes, correct.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
So essentially, you know, because I'm sure people want to
hear this, this other story that I got here for us,
but this essentially, I mean, this guy even has a
cast of this print, you know, he he claimed. I
don't know if these these stories are are together or not,
but essentially, this guy was claiming that there was a
sasquatch that he was seeing frequently, was able to cast
a prince. And essentially he called the DC one day
because there was you know, we'll just say this thing
(19:01):
was honest property. It was like doing whatever, it was screaming,
it was throwing things, It was honest property.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Like.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
So he called up the DC was like, hey, you guys,
there's like, well, I need you guys to come here
and help get this thing out, like get this thing
away or whatever. There you know, there's an actual report
of this or something like that. But essentially, the DC
went in and they didn't necessarily claim that they saw
something specific, but the rangers or whoever was there went
(19:30):
into de turn to get this thing away and it
was like screaming at them, throwing stuff at them. They
never claimed me what it was, but eventually it went
away and they just kind of left the property and
considered it more like there was just this thing that
was doing this or whatever. You know, it sounded like
it was still somewhat hidden and not really visible, but
it was doing all these things on this guy's property.
(19:50):
And you know, they couldn't say what it was exactly.
All they know is it was trying to just push
them away. It didn't like them being there.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Sure, now you hear stories like that all the time,
and also too, you know, you talk about like there's
been like hundreds of big foot encounters here in the ADK.
I mean I know dozens, you know dozens. That's just
what we know. Imagine what people who don't know what
to look for or what they've experienced, or just aren't
interested and it's walking about it. Yeah, of course.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
People listening to this can't be like, well, if they're here,
don't you think where people would see it? And it's like, dude, no,
if there's only a handful of the think about how
many encounters, you know, quote unquote encounters or reports there
are over the last like fifty years, and it's like, what,
that's one or two a year maybe, And it's most
of the time just coincidence that these things are being
either seen crossing the roads or you know, wasn't there
(20:34):
one encounter that you shared about this guy he was
like walking the roads, the logging roads.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, last year, he's walking the railroad, the railroad across
the front, saw this thing across in front of him,
looked at him. They stared at each other for like
five seconds, and then they just kept walked into the
woods like nothing happened. Yeah, these things happen all the time.
And also too, like if you're out hiking, you don't
know what to look for. You don't know about trees
coming and expecting it, or rocks being thrown at your tent.
(20:59):
These are kind of natural things you hear all the
time from big foot encounters that typically end up becoming
you know, more and more. But like rocks thron't at
your tent or whatever.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
But I think too many people get fixated on the
lack of evidence, lack of yeah, which I think there
is very much justifiable reason to why that occurs.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Now, if you are concerned about the lack of evidence,
or it's like where's the body? Sasquatch Chronicles, Episode nine fourteen, Sasquatch,
Where's the Body? Episode nine fourteen. No, it's called like
corporal lance shoots a sasquatch or something like that. And
it was a marine whose job was to go into
this area where there was some chimp or something is
(21:38):
what it was said. Uh, and to dispose of it
in a place where chimps aren't supposed to be. Yeah,
it was in Georgia. Oh that's crazy because that's actually yeah,
and uh yeah, I don't want to spoil it, but
like if you want to hear some just real, just
normal talk about shooting it a body, This is what happened,
where did it go? And there's a few stories like
(21:59):
oh there's they're they're all over the podcast. But episode
nine to fourteen of Sasquatch Chronicles highly record. Shout out
to West, shout out to Wes Kermer. This podcast wouldn't
be here. You wouldn't be here listening to this if
it wasn't for Sasquatch Chronicles. And thanks for thanks for
all the inspiration over the years, mister West.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
And if you're a skeptic, and you are possibly able
to be convinced you want reasonably the Sasquatch is real.
Start listening to Sasquatch Chronicles. I think you'll be surprised absolutly.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Actually, I do you subscribe to Sasquatch Chronicles. No, my
parents do, though, Oh that's awesome. I subscribe to Sasquatch Chronicles.
It's like seven bucks a month. You get an episode
extra episode a week. I probably never listen to the
members episodes because I already get an episode a week
on Apple Podcasts. I just like want him, I just
want to support him. So it's like I would cancel
(22:44):
streaming service before I cancel that, even though I never
even end up using it. I just love his show
so much. I love what he does. I like to support,
like to support the people that I get entertainment from.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Anyways, you got a story to show.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Let's talk share. So I'm gonna hear this story for
the first time you've been dying to tell me. Let's
hear this story. Give us some background context, and then
get into it.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Background context is I received this email out of the
blue three days ago, and sorry, this was the father.
Now I didn't get direct permission, not permission, like I have,
you know, permission to share this, but like I'm not
gonna say the like the person's name or anything like that.
But we'll call him. We'll call him Jake, right with
the father. So let's see here, Okay. So I got
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this email from the father of Jake. He says, my
nineteen year old son, who was a freshman at Plattsburgh State,
had a weird experience while on the Alan Trail earlier
this week. He's an avid out dwartsman, having done a
few of the high peaks already, as well as having
done some solo camping in the Adirondacks. He's also very
familiar with wildlife and they associated sounds and behaviors, as
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I have had him on hunting trips with me since
he was very young. He called my wife and I
to tell us what he encountered, which basically amounted to
he he and his friends hiking for a view from
the fire tower Mount Adams, ran into some strange sounds,
whooping sounds, so he says, which initially came from the
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mountains behind them as they were coming back down in
the dark. They could not identify or match it with
anything They had heard before. They ran down the trail
and the sound followed them closely. It was not an owl,
it was a ground level It was within a few
feet of them, and he described it as more of
a large whooping sound, unlike anything he had heard before.
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It moved at the same pace as them, and without
a headlamp or flashlight, it was able to traverse the
woods without issue. Having spent eight years in the Army,
I know firsthand how difficult it comp to traverse uneven
train at night, even with night vision goggles. They heard
they heard others with it that followed them to the
trailhead where their car was parked. They did not present
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as coyotes, which had come to my mind or borrowed.
He filmed a He filmed a little bit at the end,
and he stated he was too frightened while they were
running down. My wife, who is an avid hiker, has
been on that trail before with my older son, and
she said that she started looking up on Google and
while listening to a podcast your story, my story eerily
(25:18):
sounded similar on the exact same trail. So he's like,
my son would probably love to talk to you. In
Jara's account, I responded, acknowledging the things that he said,
and said, have them reach out to me. I'd love
to hear his story, which he proceeded to do so.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
So I thought, so far, so far, so whooping sounds
being paced out of the woods, like, these are things
you hear all the time in sasquatch encounters, and most
of the time they see it, or that's what happens.
They they get out of the woods and they're they're
followed or like led out of the woods. You hear
this constantly. So when I listened to that, I said, yeah,
(25:53):
that's I don't even flinch. Yeah, that's exactly what happened,
because you hear it all the time and fascinating, fascinating.
All right, yeah, let us so now tell us what
Jake had to say.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
All right, He says, Hello, Jonathan, I'm reaching out to
you to try and to give you a more detailed
account of what happened to me and my buddy when
we were hiking the Mount Adams Trail. I've spent most
of my life outdoors and regularly go fishing, hiking, hunting,
and backpacking in the Adirondacks. What happened to the night
I was hiking down from Mount Adams. I will never forget.
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The event took place on Wednesday, October thirtieth, twenty twenty four,
at around six pm. It was a beautiful day and
it was around sixty degrees, so I had the great
idea of skipping my college class and going on a
sunset hike. I called up my friend from back home
and he suggested that we meet up at the Allen
trailhead and hike Mount Adams to get some sunset photos
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from the fire tower. The dirt road leading towards the
trailhead was extremely rugged and my Honda Accord could not
handle the huge rocks and potholes scattered all around, so
I pulled over and waited for him to come on
his Raft four. We both arrived at the trailhead around
three forty pm. When we got there, only two people
were there and they were packing up and getting ready
to leave. I had asked them what mountain they had hiked,
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and they both hiked up Mount Adams. Having nothing but
great things to say. Me and my friend started out
on the hike and took some videos and pictures of
Lake Jimmy and the bridge leading across a very small
stream It was a fun steep hike. Everything was normal
all the way up to the mountain. We had a
great time catching up with each other and had an
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amazing views from the top at the fire tower. We
arrived at the Summitt around five to fifteen PM and
stayed in the fire tower getting pictures until around five
point fifty. As we made our way down the steep decline,
we were talking about how awesome of a trip it was.
We liked it so much that we were planning on
camping out near the ranger cabin another time. That quickly
changed fast. By this point, the sun had already fully
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set behind the mountains and there was only a sliver
of light left on the horizon. We were about a
quarter mile away from where where the trail reconnects to
the Alan Trail when we heard a distinct ape like
whoop that sounded around forty yards behind us. I immediately
was stunned by the noise, as I had never heard
anything like that. I just stood still listening for a
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second time. We both whipped our heads around, locked eyes,
and an instant instinctually took off running down the trail.
We eventually ran out of breath and I started talking
to my friends saying like, wtf was that and what
could have made that type of noise? So at this
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point it only happened one time, but they were just like,
that was a very strange, very bizarre sound.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Sure, forty yards is close to a hundred.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Twenty feet, it's close enough to be like, yo, that's weird.
And you know what. I have been walking in the
woods when I just heard a bart owl go off yea,
you know, and it sounds like whoo, and it's like,
I'm like, I had to think about it, and I
was like, oh gosh, that was an owl. Okay, but
keep in mind they heard this following them.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, No, it's definitely unnerving for sure.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
So as there are running down the trail, he says,
we eventually ran out of breath and I started talking
to read saying what was those things? What could have
made the type of noise? Things only got worse after this.
Not even thirty seconds later, we hear another loud whoop
from the same direction, but much much closer than before.
This sealed the deal that whatever was making that noise
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was actively following after us. Keive in mind, they're probably like,
you know, they're un until they're out of breath. They're
probably half a mile down the trail. At this point,
there was a feeling that overcame my body. It felt
as if we were being hunted. As we took off
running again, this thing was whooping at us continuously every
twenty to thirty seconds. By this point, my adrenaline was
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going through the roof. All these questions are racing through
my mind. Why is this thing following us? How is
it keeping up with us? What is this thing? Are
we going to make it out of here? We sprinted
past the ranger cabin and overtook the wooden that and
we went across the wooden boards that cross over the
swampy area. This is when I finally decided to take
out my phone and try to get a video of
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the noises. My friend was reluctant to stop for even
thirty seconds on the trail. He kept saying to me,
are you really going to risk our life for a video?
At this point, I want to say, real quick mm
hm to anyone listening to this who can't really place
themselves there or feel will relate to this experience, it's
gonna sound kind of ridiculous that only hearing just a
unique sound in the woods is going to cause such
a fight or fight feeling. But it's something that when
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when the simplest thing happens at night that you just
your brain can't comprehend what it is. It does something
inside of you. And so for those who haven't really
ever experienced something like this, it's hard to comprehend why
someone might be so scared for something that seems so,
you know, minuscule, but really it is something that can
make any grown men just stop in their tracks and
be like, Yo, this is not normal.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Absolutely, And you hear all the time stories like this
where grown men, badass hunters are like in tears, they
can't move, they're frozen because there's fear grips them like
they've never experienced. Like you hear that on sasquats chronicles constantly,
where like you know, soldiers will say like, I've been
to war, I've been in Iraq, been in Afghanistan. I've
never been scareder than I was that day in the
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woods because this fear, it's just it hits differently. I've
thankfully not experienced it, but you hear that pretty frequently.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
He continues and says, so I took out my phone
and started calling out to it to try to get
a response. That's when I was able to capture three
high pitched whooping sounds. In one of the recordings, you
can hear a distinct tree knock, then from the same
direction you can hear a whoop. The exact location where
I recorded this audio was on the trailhead side of
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like Jimmy, about fifty yards from where you cross over
the marsh. So this is like in the area when
you deter off the trail, like instead of going across
with the old bridge before I used to be, you
turn left to go through the woods. It was right there,
and I could verify that because looking at the video,
I knew exactly where he was on the trail based
off of the trees, the little trail market discs and
the trail and everything I could tell totally verifies what
(32:05):
he's saying. So continues and says After recording the video,
it went quiet for around five minutes. Obviously they're getting
away from this thing. During this time, I'm talking to
my friends saying, bro, I got it on video. People
aren't going to think we're crazy now. As soon as
I was finished saying that there was another whoop. This
(32:26):
time it sounded like it was close enough to be
within twenty to thirty feet of us.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yikes.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
We took off again and ended up taking a wrong
turn on the trail. They probably went to the mac
and Fire Furnace trail. That's just my suggestion or my
guest here, but on his phone, and his phone his
friend had died, so we were just going based off
of our memory. This is a dark this is a night.
All the trails out there, they're not marked nothing out There's.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Talk about a recipe for disaster too, And then you
add into the mix like these guys are operating on
unexplainable fear right now.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Yep, adrenaline. We came out into a small grass clearing
overlooking the lake. The only thought going through my head
was if we can't find our way out here, we're
gonna have to stay the night with whatever was out here. Luckily,
we were able to retrace our steps and to find
our way back onto the main trail. Imagine having the
turnaround and walk back.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Now.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I was just about to say, I wonder what went
through their mind when they finally made the decision, Like,
all right, we got to turn around and go back
towards what we're running away from. Terrifying.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
By the time we crossed over the bridge, the one
that this is probably the Hudson YEP, the sounds had
completely stopped and we didn't hear anything unusual after that.
When we got back to the Trowhead, we jumped into
the car, locked the doors, and flew down the dirt road.
By now we're both in shock, Our hearts are racing,
and we have no words to even describe what had
just What we had just gone through the three minute
(33:52):
car ride down to the dirt road in my car
was surreal. We had both just experienced something that was unreal.
It almost felt like a dream. So it started out
as a fun spur of the moment Hyke turned into
an experience I will never forget. While writing down my story,
it almost felt like I was reliving the experience all
over again. It feels good to know that I'm not
the only one out there who's experienced something very out
(34:12):
of the ordinary in those woods. Listening to your podcast
the night it had happened was eye opening and intriguing.
It makes me wonder how many other people have experienced
these things and have never gone public about it. As
for what I think it was, my guess would be
a Sasquatch. I'm a firm believer of sasquatch, but I
had never had a first hand encounter with anything of
that nature until now. My friend was a skeptic, but
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after that, this is experience, he is starting to become
a believer based on my experience. My theory is that
this thing, whether it was a Sasquatch or not, did
not want us there and was trying to make that nun.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah, that's probably exactly what happened. It was time for
you to go, and they were escorting you out of
the woods, which you hear frequently, That's exactly I mean,
it seems to be exactly what happened, and fully it ended.
It ended well for these two given the circumstances.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, and you know, there is a I do have
a follow up email with him as well, where he
kind of goes in a little bit more depth here.
So he he continues to send me these video clips. Okay,
and just in case, if you know you're able to
(35:26):
extract the audio and throw that in there, I'll send
the videos to you. And here's what I'm going I'm
gonna describe the video right now, and James is gonna
play it. Okay. So the thing is, like, my first
impression is that, like, if I heard this without hearing
his story, I would have said, well, it kind of
sounds like it kind of sounds like, you know, it's
more high pitched. It could be you know whatever. It
(35:47):
doesn't sound like this deep, you know, like like it's
like very I don't know. It's kind of like people
who are already so squatsch believers will have an easier
time to believe it than people who are skeptics. But
I'm gonna read this context real quick. What what he says?
So I responded, and he says, it took him a
(36:19):
few hours. Sorry, it took him a couple hours to
get back or an the next day, and he said, sorry,
I was not in the right state of mind to
answer the questions you had asked last night. This was
not only the dot, this was the not only the
documentation I have of the experience. I have an extended
version of the video. Let's see here. Sorry one second
(36:41):
and okay, So he said, sorry, okay, although there might
be something you hear in the other part of the
video that I might have missed. Also, I had mentioned
hearing the knock on the tree. If you listen closely
right before I say my friend's name in the vide
I sent you, you can hear a knock coming from
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the distance, and the whooping came from it. I can
see where I mentioned that. I said, how it almost
sounds like a mimicking, So it sounds like he's mimicking
the exact same vocal inflections that he's doing. I can
see where you're coming from when you mentioned how it
was almost sounding like a mimicking my call. My friend
said the exact same thing to me when we were
talking about the experience a day after. The whooping noises
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seem to follow a pattern. Some of them would be
higher pitched and more drawn out, and some would be
deeper and shorter and vice versa, which those ones I
didn't capture as much. You can somewhat hear this if
you listen closely to the video i'd sent you earlier,
around eighteen seconds into the video. So these whooping sounds,
I will say, they're not the you know, they're not
(37:43):
like super super convincing, and they're obviously a distant It
almost sounds like it's his voice echoing, but it's not
because clearly some of them take five or six seconds
or even ten seconds to respond, so you know it's
that way.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
It's also two guys running through the woods in a panic,
and so like you have the sounds of their backpacks
and their feet, so it's like we get what we
get it. Yeah, if they did the best, Like.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
If you listen really closely, I don't know how much
you're gonna turn the video sound up here, but if
you listen really closely, you can hear his heartbeat. Is
it's so fast you're just like about these guys are
clearly like freaking out. So yep, James is gonna play
some clips now.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
Oh at Amber Mountains, coming down from the mountain we
hiked up for sunset. We're hiking down the mountain when
we heard a whoop and then.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
As you just heard, it's close. Boys, we're getting the
out of here. Oh my god, I'm never coming in
these woods again. As soon as this some went down,
as soon as the someon went down, I'm saying often
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was I going to consider my battery I cause were lost.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
If you find my phone, just know the sasquatch. God
its probably.
Speaker 7 (39:08):
Mh waight, mhm.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
H whoa.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Whoa whoah.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Cool?
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, so wild story, absolutely crazy. He sounds like a
perfect guest for next year's big Foot in the Blue
Lined episode, so probably have him on next October Sessions.
But absolutely fascinating story, unbelievable and not surprising at the
same time, so maybe not unbelievab I want to go
back out there, Yeah, it sounds like it would be
a good time. Now is the time of year to
(40:38):
do it. Fall is when it seems like everyone has
these encounters, especially this late fall hunting season, which makes sense.
All the dyear are much more active this time of
year too, so not surprising. But all right, Well, that's
going to wrap up this bonus episode of the October
Sessions in November right now. Again, this was an episode
I just had to have Jonathan on. We had to
(40:59):
talk about it in real time on the podcast because
it's just too good of a subject and people who
listen to this podcast know that both Jonathan and I
find this subject pretty fascinating. But Jonathan, where can people
find you online? What do you have to offer people?
Give them a little plug for yourself?
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yeah, you just can search my name, the one that's
probably on the title of this episode. Jonathan's Aheric. You
can search me on Instagram, Google, my website, Facebook, whatever
you want to use, and you'll see my photography content
my YouTube channel as well. Jonathan's Aheric Instagram, Jonathan's Aheric
and uh yeah, So if you love Adirondack hiking content,
(41:34):
I'm the I'm the man for you.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
There you go pick up a photograph for your house
of the Adirondacks, especially with his new snow liage. Snow
Liage pictures Absolutely incredible snow up, high fall foliage, colorful
fall foliage down below. Unbelievable stuff. But that's gonna wrap
up this episode of the forty six to forty six podcast.
Head over to forty six Outdoors to see everything that
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(41:59):
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leave no trace. Do the rock walk, and if you
carry it in, carry it out. See you on the trails,
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Speaker 2 (01:09):
This is the forty six and forty six podcast October Sessions,
where we'll talk all things spooky and Irondacks and more,
from bigfoot encounters on the NPT to ghostly sightings in
the trees. We'll dive deep into the heart of these
mountains and the people who dare to climb them. From
Adirondack bigfoots to haunted lakeside bar huts. It's all here
(01:32):
on the forty six of forty six October Sessions.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Hello everyone, and welcome back to the forty six of
forty six podcast. I am here with a bonus October
Sessions episode today. I know we are into November now,
but something happened recently that warranted an episode that we
have to talk about. I'm talking about a very recent
and meaning six days ago bigfoot encounter that happened here
(02:12):
in the Adirondack Mountains at a place that a guest
on this podcast has also experienced a bigfoot story. So
I said, don't tell me the story, come to the studio.
Let's do an episode so I can hear it in
real time and actually dive in because this is the
time of year where I always hear these bigfoot stories,
So this is like an October Sessions bonus episode today
(02:33):
with none other than fan favorite mister Jonathan Zaharic. Jonathan,
Welcome to Shed Corterers and welcome back to the forty
six to forty six podcasts were probably the tenth time.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I don't know, I don't even know. It's good to
have you though, but you know, it's very easy to
just be here and communicate. Drive right over and you know,
pop some good content out.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah. So yesterday we drove down the street. I helped
you deliver some calendar so you have some calendars.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
All the calendars are out and even at the time
of this record hoarding all sold out, all sold everything
sold out except for a couple of brick and mortar
stories around town.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
But I love it.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, so that's good.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Proud of you do it. You're doing great stuff. So
if you don't know, Jonathan has a calendars of his
photography for sale on his website. Obviously they're sold out,
but uh, there's pictures at Shed Quarters from Jonathan. Fantastic stuff.
Check out his website for unbelievable shots of the Adirondack Park,
including these like snowleage photos you got this year, which
I can't wait till my next one comes in that
(03:28):
you ordered for me, But I'm.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Still living off the high of that week.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
It was the most like I don't think I've ever
been like I think I see. I was telling people.
Out of the three days that that occurred, that three
day window, I think less than one hour of accumulated
time I spent in my apartment outside of sleep. It
was just go, go go.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, I bet. I mean just driving around town, just
looking up at the mountains.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
We're like, oh, I'm probably I probably spent five hundred
miles driving all around.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Unbelievable. You had you chartered a plane too, right.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yep, yep, yeah, call yeah yeah. Shameless plugged the Adirondack
Flying Service. A lot of people actually ask me about that,
and it's something that they offer. So if anyone here
listening wants to take a plane up into the high peaks,
they do scenic plates over at the Lake Placid Airport.
As for Chris Tolm, Jonathan sent you, they'll hook you up.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Not a shameless plugs. It's a service that somebody provides
that creates an amazing adventure. I haven't flown with him,
but I have had a podcast guest who flies take
me up for a trip around the high peaks, and
it is unbelievable. I cannot recommend it enough. If you
come up, if you have you know, decent weather, absolutely
amazing experience. So tell me, tell the listeners what you
(04:36):
told me and why we're here to talk today.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
So for any we'll say veteran listeners here, they'll remember
years ago, in twenty twenty, I did a couple of
attempts at the forty six on supported through hike, and
in my experiences I had some very cryptic events happened
to me that actually left me pretty I mean, I
don't know, I want to use the words lightly here,
(05:01):
but definitely a little bit of like hikers fear of
the dark PTSD type of thing. And so since then
it's just been, you know, and I've grown a little
thick to it since you know, it's been a while,
and nothing's really happened to me since. But my experiences
out in the you know, the Allen Mountain area, which
is near the Upper Works trail head, and particularly in
(05:21):
the region the first mile or so from the trailhead
Lake Jimmy to Lake Sally area. The first time I
went out there, all by myself alone at night, eleven pm,
after through hiking from Corey's Road in the Seward Range.
You know, I had an experience where something very large
was standing off in the distance between me, the trees
and the lake. Couldn't see it, and it was throwing
(05:43):
insanely big rocks like I think I claimed basketball size,
Like you could clearly tell they were rocks. It wasn't
like a beaver slap thing. It was enough to scare
me to the point where I actually took out my
SOS beacon and held it in a hand and I
felt petrified. I just I just had a gut feeling
that like there was something there that that was trying
to make it known that it was there. Kept going.
(06:06):
This thing was like I could hear that it was
moving and things like that, and then you know that
was that. That was that first time, But then the
second time, well, and I.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Gotta pause you before you move on to the second time.
So before we move on to that point, I get
people constantly making comments or references to that story of
that episode of you experiencing this thing out in the woods.
Whether some people believe, yeah, it probably was bigfoot. Some
people believe, ah, it was it was a It was
(06:36):
a beaver slapping the woods or slapping the water, but
quite frankly like a beaver slap and a boulder thunking
into the water drastically sure.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
And I want to say I want to be the first,
not the first to say this, but I want to
be the first from my perspective. This just to say,
I have never claimed that this thing is a bigfoot
because I didn't see it with my eyes. And I
actually tell myself, if I went to that sound and looked,
I would have saw nothing that I taught myself, you know,
So I don't know. All I know is I was
terrified and I couldn't explain what was happening.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I'm the one saying that it was probably a big
foot encounter because I've heard these stories for years on
other podcasts of the same type of thing. Plus, let's
be honest, who is out there at Like? What time?
Was there were no cars at the trailhead, no audrailhead
around eleven pm in middle of the week, middle of
the week at the on the Allen Mountain trail tossing
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giant boulders into the water. How bizarre. It seems more
likely that something sure.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Going into the woods, like it was more than just water,
you know.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Sure, But anyways, a fascinating story. What episode was that
we were talking about? Was that your very first I
don't remember what it's called, but uh, if you just
scroll through the podcast and look for all the summit
sessions and find Jonathan zaheric FKT something. Yeah, I probably
called it like failed f KT or something, I don't remember.
I will say give James some grace for using very
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very small, rocky splash sounds in the episode, because it
sounded like he was, you know, throwing a little soft ball.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Into the water.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
But yeah, sure, much bigger than that. Well, I at
least at least you noticed that I put some sound effects, right.
It's kind of it's kind of my thing here at
the forty six to forty six podcasts.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
But just to give give some more context, you know,
that whole situation like just caught me off guard, which
kind of left me stunned, which brought me to the
which brought interest about the subject because it was that
unique for me. I was, you know, but then you know,
a month later I went back out there again to
attempt to sing a second time a little bit more
under the radar.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I remember dropping you off at the trail again.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
But this time I kid you not walking the road
between Santononi and that Alex Trail, which is one mile
section there on the Tahawis Road, right there where the
Hudson is, where the water was still again the sound
of rocks, now that one could have been beaver slaps
right there, but like the water displacement was crazy. And
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then I was freaking out. I was like, I'm just
gonna keep going. And then I kept going, and then
I started hearing these things, well multiple things, sorry, just
one thing. Once I actually got in between like Jimmy
and Lake Sally, I started hearing what sounded like something
pacing me in the woods. I just started freaking out.
I looked down. I just said, no, not today. I
kept going. I kept going in about a mile after
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Lake Sally. I was like, I was just so exhausted,
so tired, and I just started setting up my hammock.
I was like shaking. I was like, I have to
sleep out here tonight. And then right as I was
sitting up my hammock full grown, it sounded like a tree,
not a branch, but like a tree, probably like twelve
to sixteen inches in circumference at least just ripping down
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in the woods, probably less than one hundred yards For me,
I couldn't physically see it fall, but all of those
things just happening, and that that second time was you know,
rocks or the you know with the water and then
the thing pacing me and then the tree. And that's
a hard thing to believe. It's you know, but it
was a windless night. Nothing, it was just right there,
quiet of the woods. Just you know, I'm just like, dude, what.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Is going on?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, very unnerve It's just yeah, it's just a very
unnerving situation. These are you know, what we might from
the sasquatch realm call these things maybe a B minus
or a C plus, you know, encounter nothing that really
warrants you know, like, oh this is undoubtedly a sasquatch
or it's.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Just yes, there's towards it. There's logical explanations. Maybe the
tree fell over, but again when you take all of
the details and add them all together, it seems like
maybe it was something else. Obviously it could have been
a tree happened to fall in the clear knife.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
But anyways, Hey, everybody, my name is Annie. I'm from Severn, Maryland,
just outside of Baltimore. I joined the Great Range Athlete
team because I wanted to step up from just taking
walks in the woods to kind of undertaking more serious hikes.
I also wanted to feel stronger and tackling all these
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challenges by myself and doing all these climbs by myself
as well. I got exactly what I was looking for.
Like James says, you get out what you put in,
and I was all in. So when I opened up
to the team with my struggles, I was met with
support and I just watched myself get stronger in body
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and determination. The program last six weeks, but it's something
that is going to stay with me well into the
future anyways.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
So I have a story here because since I came
out about this, many people, especially during that timeline within
this first episode came out, people were actually coming to
me about their own experiences out there. In fact, I
even had a gentleman reach out to me that used
to have a hunting camp out on White Lily Pond,
which is about a mile to the northwest of Borius Pond,
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right at the base of Allen There on that really
remote side all back there in that corridor. And he
said every year when he would go back there in
the winter time, there would be a sasquatch or two
back there, and he would go out. He'd be like
hunting for the day, like in December, in the beginning
of December, and he'd be out there and these things
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like the sasquatch, he said, like would be like like
bothering him, like and he would like be running back
to his place, and then the thing would come to
his camp and it would like pace around his cabin.
He'd come out in the morning, see the prince everywhere.
This thing would be like banging on the cabin. There's
something out there that definitely didn't like him, you know.
He said that would happen, that happened for many years
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at a time. And you know, there are other people
telling me about things pacing them. And of course we
got black bears and whatever. But I think I counted
I can't remember them all off hand, but five or
six specific people came out and told me that things
within that region that happened to them. And you know what,
there's a lot of things that if you're gonna start
believing in sasquatch then there's a lot of other things
that you're gonna have to kind of accept as well
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with that subject that you don't think right off the bat.
For example, is there paranormal stuff along with that? You know,
is sasquatch natural? Is it supernatural? And well, you know
that ranger cabin that's back there by lake Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I'll tell you that thing is creepy.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
And every single time I pass it, I don't like
looking at it. Something about it just does not.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
It's very unnerving. Like we just talked about, like it
is it has that vibe that's just like and I
actually say it in the very first season of the
podcast when I first hiked Alan and again it was
I don't know, five o'clock in the morning, dark raining.
I remember even writing this story, like I walked up
to it and then I said, ah, no, never mind,
I'm gonna keep going.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Maybe it's just a creepy cabin.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
It is. It's a cabin in the woods. You're not
expecting it if you don't know it's there. But also
like when you do look into it, it just has
like a memoris of that of a weird vibe that's all.
That's the only way to describe it, like course.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Energy holding onto it.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, and people talk about these energies all throughout the
park too. Actually we just the last episode the guest
talked all about it, Dennis Webster. But uh, that that
is just so remote out there, like we think too.
It's like, oh, you're a mile from the trailhead, okay,
but you're also like twenty two miles back into the
woods from like a main road. On top of them,
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you're now a mile from from a kind of road
which is the Tawist Road, which is probably like the
worst road in the air on Deck Park needs to
needs a paved job.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
By the way, if you want to go back there
in the next week or so, I'll go back with you.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
We probably should plan a trip. I'll do it, they would.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I mean, now is the time of year, like, it's
it's late, right, it gets dark late. And by the way,
this experience happened to this guy right around five to
six pm, so you didn't even have to be back
there late. Sure, so we can go back there if
you want.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I actually want to hear a little bit more before
we hear this story. So basically Jonathan's gonna tell me
a story that someone just sent him that happened to
him within the last week out in that same exact area,
Vanderwacker Wild Forest. That's where Allan is right now, part.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Of now it's technically it's it's Central Hype. Okay, fander
Wrecker's just to the south of it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Okay, got it so out in that general area super
remote obviously, if you've hiked Alan, you know it's super
remote out there. But this just happened in the last week.
So that's why Jonathan's here. We have to hear this story.
I haven't heard anything about it yet. I want to
hear it for the first time in the podcast. But
I also aways wanted to talk a little bit about this.
But before we get to that, tell me a little
bit more about the hunter that shared this story and
(15:13):
some of those other stories that people shared with you
after you did this podcast episode and told about your story,
because you just mentioned like five or six people told
you what happened to them.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, everything. I mean, it was everything from people being like, dude, listen,
something stuck with me out there. I had a terrible feeling,
and I think one of these people were talking about
in the middle of the day too, is that I
had a terrible feeling that something was watching me out there,
and then of course pacing in the woods, this guy.
You know, I have the message somewhere on Facebook. I'm
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sure I could go back and find it and he'll,
you know, he explains it to me what was going on,
and you know that was it was before like smartphones
and things like that. So I don't think he had
any pictures or stuff of these prints or whatever. But
then the easements change, Yeah, that get pushed out. But
you know, you know, I've had people even tell me
things have happened out near the sewards. This whole, this
whole line, you know, because if you think about it,
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let's theoretically say that Sasquatch is a flesh and blood
creature and that they do roam the forest to the northeast,
but they're extremely rare, extremely elusive for whatever reason. Sure,
if they do exist in the Adirondacks, I think I
would say, in just my opinion, I would say there's
a dozen or less that are even living and thriving here,
because I don't think it's it's the most welcoming environment
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for them because of how little amount of a lot
of things there are, and just because there's not a
lot of people, I think there's a lot, you know,
and if there's not a lot of sasquatch, then they're
not going to breed, you know. So it's like there's
not a lot of stuff to support a I guess
you could say, ah, a a family. Well, I guess true.
(16:50):
What's the what's the word called like they're if they're here,
I think it's because they're migrating through, or they're coming through,
or it might be you know, an old place that
they used to come to, and so when they come
from Vermont, they want to avoid the high peaks, so
they'll come just to the south of them, you know.
I mean, that's could be the reason why they might
be in this area, why they might be seen in
the Speculator region super commonly, because it's all in the
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southern region that most of those encounters are.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Sure the high peaks are brutal. Although I actually disagree
and feel people you know, have their theories that this
is like a just a passing through. To me, it's like,
why would they leave. They literally have everything they could
ever need.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
They could be dang.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Off, they could be obviously this is just you know,
theories here, but you have everything that they could possibly
need right here. And these are animals that live outdoors,
live in the winter, like they're they're fine. The people
talk about all the brutal winters here. Yeah, but they're fine,
They're fine.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Most of them live in Northern Canada anyway.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Every animal lives outside, so I have no doubt that
they'll survive just fine, are at Aroondack winters. But anyways, Yeah,
fascinating stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
And do you think over the last twenty to thirty
years there have been almost I think it was there's
almost one hundred verifiable accounts of south Quatch encounteries within
the Adirondacks, and even one in recent years by the
DC themselves up in Do.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
You know this story?
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah, yeah, the d e C one Yeah, tell me, yeah, Well,
I think I think it's Saint Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
So I think it's St. Lawrence County, Saint Lawrence northwest
of here. I don't know which direction it is. It
is like it's outside the the high Peaks. It's it's more.
I mean, if you're going to you go through Saint
Lawrence County. I believe when you're heading to like the potsdam.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Right, Yeah, yeah, so Saint Lawrence County. I'm pretty sure
it was Sat.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Lawrence. Yeah, yeah, that is that would be northwest, yes, correct.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
So essentially, you know, because I'm sure people want to
hear this, this other story that I got here for us,
but this essentially, I mean, this guy even has a
cast of this print, you know, he he claimed. I
don't know if these these stories are are together or not,
but essentially, this guy was claiming that there was a
sasquatch that he was seeing frequently, was able to cast
a prince. And essentially he called the DC one day
because there was you know, we'll just say this thing
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was honest property. It was like doing whatever, it was screaming,
it was throwing things, It was honest property.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Like.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
So he called up the DC was like, hey, you guys,
there's like, well, I need you guys to come here
and help get this thing out, like get this thing
away or whatever. There you know, there's an actual report
of this or something like that. But essentially, the DC
went in and they didn't necessarily claim that they saw
something specific, but the rangers or whoever was there went
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into de turn to get this thing away and it
was like screaming at them, throwing stuff at them. They
never claimed me what it was, but eventually it went
away and they just kind of left the property and
considered it more like there was just this thing that
was doing this or whatever. You know, it sounded like
it was still somewhat hidden and not really visible, but
it was doing all these things on this guy's property.
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And you know, they couldn't say what it was exactly.
All they know is it was trying to just push
them away. It didn't like them being there.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Sure, now you hear stories like that all the time,
and also too, you know, you talk about like there's
been like hundreds of big foot encounters here in the ADK.
I mean I know dozens, you know dozens. That's just
what we know. Imagine what people who don't know what
to look for or what they've experienced, or just aren't
interested and it's walking about it. Yeah, of course.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
People listening to this can't be like, well, if they're here,
don't you think where people would see it? And it's like, dude, no,
if there's only a handful of the think about how
many encounters, you know, quote unquote encounters or reports there
are over the last like fifty years, and it's like, what,
that's one or two a year maybe, And it's most
of the time just coincidence that these things are being
either seen crossing the roads or you know, wasn't there
(20:34):
one encounter that you shared about this guy he was
like walking the roads, the logging roads.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, last year, he's walking the railroad, the railroad across
the front, saw this thing across in front of him,
looked at him. They stared at each other for like
five seconds, and then they just kept walked into the
woods like nothing happened. Yeah, these things happen all the time.
And also too, like if you're out hiking, you don't
know what to look for. You don't know about trees
coming and expecting it, or rocks being thrown at your tent.
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These are kind of natural things you hear all the
time from big foot encounters that typically end up becoming
you know, more and more. But like rocks thron't at
your tent or whatever.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
But I think too many people get fixated on the
lack of evidence, lack of yeah, which I think there
is very much justifiable reason to why that occurs.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Now, if you are concerned about the lack of evidence,
or it's like where's the body? Sasquatch Chronicles, Episode nine fourteen, Sasquatch,
Where's the Body? Episode nine fourteen. No, it's called like
corporal lance shoots a sasquatch or something like that. And
it was a marine whose job was to go into
this area where there was some chimp or something is
(21:38):
what it was said. Uh, and to dispose of it
in a place where chimps aren't supposed to be. Yeah,
it was in Georgia. Oh that's crazy because that's actually yeah,
and uh yeah, I don't want to spoil it, but
like if you want to hear some just real, just
normal talk about shooting it a body, This is what happened,
where did it go? And there's a few stories like
(21:59):
oh there's they're they're all over the podcast. But episode
nine to fourteen of Sasquatch Chronicles highly record. Shout out
to West, shout out to Wes Kermer. This podcast wouldn't
be here. You wouldn't be here listening to this if
it wasn't for Sasquatch Chronicles. And thanks for thanks for
all the inspiration over the years, mister West.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
And if you're a skeptic, and you are possibly able
to be convinced you want reasonably the Sasquatch is real.
Start listening to Sasquatch Chronicles. I think you'll be surprised absolutly.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Actually, I do you subscribe to Sasquatch Chronicles. No, my
parents do, though, Oh that's awesome. I subscribe to Sasquatch Chronicles.
It's like seven bucks a month. You get an episode
extra episode a week. I probably never listen to the
members episodes because I already get an episode a week
on Apple Podcasts. I just like want him, I just
want to support him. So it's like I would cancel
(22:44):
streaming service before I cancel that, even though I never
even end up using it. I just love his show
so much. I love what he does. I like to support,
like to support the people that I get entertainment from.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Anyways, you got a story to show.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Let's talk share. So I'm gonna hear this story for
the first time you've been dying to tell me. Let's
hear this story. Give us some background context, and then
get into it.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Background context is I received this email out of the
blue three days ago, and sorry, this was the father.
Now I didn't get direct permission, not permission, like I have,
you know, permission to share this, but like I'm not
gonna say the like the person's name or anything like that.
But we'll call him. We'll call him Jake, right with
the father. So let's see here, Okay. So I got
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this email from the father of Jake. He says, my
nineteen year old son, who was a freshman at Plattsburgh State,
had a weird experience while on the Alan Trail earlier
this week. He's an avid out dwartsman, having done a
few of the high peaks already, as well as having
done some solo camping in the Adirondacks. He's also very
familiar with wildlife and they associated sounds and behaviors, as
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I have had him on hunting trips with me since
he was very young. He called my wife and I
to tell us what he encountered, which basically amounted to
he he and his friends hiking for a view from
the fire tower Mount Adams, ran into some strange sounds,
whooping sounds, so he says, which initially came from the
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mountains behind them as they were coming back down in
the dark. They could not identify or match it with
anything They had heard before. They ran down the trail
and the sound followed them closely. It was not an owl,
it was a ground level It was within a few
feet of them, and he described it as more of
a large whooping sound, unlike anything he had heard before.
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It moved at the same pace as them, and without
a headlamp or flashlight, it was able to traverse the
woods without issue. Having spent eight years in the Army,
I know firsthand how difficult it comp to traverse uneven
train at night, even with night vision goggles. They heard
they heard others with it that followed them to the
trailhead where their car was parked. They did not present
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as coyotes, which had come to my mind or borrowed.
He filmed a He filmed a little bit at the end,
and he stated he was too frightened while they were
running down. My wife, who is an avid hiker, has
been on that trail before with my older son, and
she said that she started looking up on Google and
while listening to a podcast your story, my story eerily
(25:18):
sounded similar on the exact same trail. So he's like,
my son would probably love to talk to you. In
Jara's account, I responded, acknowledging the things that he said,
and said, have them reach out to me. I'd love
to hear his story, which he proceeded to do so.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
So I thought, so far, so far, so whooping sounds
being paced out of the woods, like, these are things
you hear all the time in sasquatch encounters, and most
of the time they see it, or that's what happens.
They they get out of the woods and they're they're
followed or like led out of the woods. You hear
this constantly. So when I listened to that, I said, yeah,
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that's I don't even flinch. Yeah, that's exactly what happened,
because you hear it all the time and fascinating, fascinating.
All right, yeah, let us so now tell us what
Jake had to say.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
All right, He says, Hello, Jonathan, I'm reaching out to
you to try and to give you a more detailed
account of what happened to me and my buddy when
we were hiking the Mount Adams Trail. I've spent most
of my life outdoors and regularly go fishing, hiking, hunting,
and backpacking in the Adirondacks. What happened to the night
I was hiking down from Mount Adams. I will never forget.
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The event took place on Wednesday, October thirtieth, twenty twenty four,
at around six pm. It was a beautiful day and
it was around sixty degrees, so I had the great
idea of skipping my college class and going on a
sunset hike. I called up my friend from back home
and he suggested that we meet up at the Allen
trailhead and hike Mount Adams to get some sunset photos
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from the fire tower. The dirt road leading towards the
trailhead was extremely rugged and my Honda Accord could not
handle the huge rocks and potholes scattered all around, so
I pulled over and waited for him to come on
his Raft four. We both arrived at the trailhead around
three forty pm. When we got there, only two people
were there and they were packing up and getting ready
to leave. I had asked them what mountain they had hiked,
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and they both hiked up Mount Adams. Having nothing but
great things to say. Me and my friend started out
on the hike and took some videos and pictures of
Lake Jimmy and the bridge leading across a very small
stream It was a fun steep hike. Everything was normal
all the way up to the mountain. We had a
great time catching up with each other and had an
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amazing views from the top at the fire tower. We
arrived at the Summitt around five to fifteen PM and
stayed in the fire tower getting pictures until around five
point fifty. As we made our way down the steep decline,
we were talking about how awesome of a trip it was.
We liked it so much that we were planning on
camping out near the ranger cabin another time. That quickly
changed fast. By this point, the sun had already fully
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set behind the mountains and there was only a sliver
of light left on the horizon. We were about a
quarter mile away from where where the trail reconnects to
the Alan Trail when we heard a distinct ape like
whoop that sounded around forty yards behind us. I immediately
was stunned by the noise, as I had never heard
anything like that. I just stood still listening for a
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second time. We both whipped our heads around, locked eyes,
and an instant instinctually took off running down the trail.
We eventually ran out of breath and I started talking
to my friends saying like, wtf was that and what
could have made that type of noise? So at this
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point it only happened one time, but they were just like,
that was a very strange, very bizarre sound.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Sure, forty yards is close to a hundred.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Twenty feet, it's close enough to be like, yo, that's weird.
And you know what. I have been walking in the
woods when I just heard a bart owl go off yea,
you know, and it sounds like whoo, and it's like,
I'm like, I had to think about it, and I
was like, oh gosh, that was an owl. Okay, but
keep in mind they heard this following them.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, No, it's definitely unnerving for sure.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
So as there are running down the trail, he says,
we eventually ran out of breath and I started talking
to read saying what was those things? What could have
made the type of noise? Things only got worse after this.
Not even thirty seconds later, we hear another loud whoop
from the same direction, but much much closer than before.
This sealed the deal that whatever was making that noise
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was actively following after us. Keive in mind, they're probably like,
you know, they're un until they're out of breath. They're
probably half a mile down the trail. At this point,
there was a feeling that overcame my body. It felt
as if we were being hunted. As we took off
running again, this thing was whooping at us continuously every
twenty to thirty seconds. By this point, my adrenaline was
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going through the roof. All these questions are racing through
my mind. Why is this thing following us? How is
it keeping up with us? What is this thing? Are
we going to make it out of here? We sprinted
past the ranger cabin and overtook the wooden that and
we went across the wooden boards that cross over the
swampy area. This is when I finally decided to take
out my phone and try to get a video of
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the noises. My friend was reluctant to stop for even
thirty seconds on the trail. He kept saying to me,
are you really going to risk our life for a video?
At this point, I want to say, real quick mm
hm to anyone listening to this who can't really place
themselves there or feel will relate to this experience, it's
gonna sound kind of ridiculous that only hearing just a
unique sound in the woods is going to cause such
a fight or fight feeling. But it's something that when
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when the simplest thing happens at night that you just
your brain can't comprehend what it is. It does something
inside of you. And so for those who haven't really
ever experienced something like this, it's hard to comprehend why
someone might be so scared for something that seems so,
you know, minuscule, but really it is something that can
make any grown men just stop in their tracks and
be like, Yo, this is not normal.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Absolutely, And you hear all the time stories like this
where grown men, badass hunters are like in tears, they
can't move, they're frozen because there's fear grips them like
they've never experienced. Like you hear that on sasquats chronicles constantly,
where like you know, soldiers will say like, I've been
to war, I've been in Iraq, been in Afghanistan. I've
never been scareder than I was that day in the
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woods because this fear, it's just it hits differently. I've
thankfully not experienced it, but you hear that pretty frequently.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
He continues and says, so I took out my phone
and started calling out to it to try to get
a response. That's when I was able to capture three
high pitched whooping sounds. In one of the recordings, you
can hear a distinct tree knock, then from the same
direction you can hear a whoop. The exact location where
I recorded this audio was on the trailhead side of
(31:43):
like Jimmy, about fifty yards from where you cross over
the marsh. So this is like in the area when
you deter off the trail, like instead of going across
with the old bridge before I used to be, you
turn left to go through the woods. It was right there,
and I could verify that because looking at the video,
I knew exactly where he was on the trail based
off of the trees, the little trail market discs and
the trail and everything I could tell totally verifies what
(32:05):
he's saying. So continues and says After recording the video,
it went quiet for around five minutes. Obviously they're getting
away from this thing. During this time, I'm talking to
my friends saying, bro, I got it on video. People
aren't going to think we're crazy now. As soon as
I was finished saying that there was another whoop. This
(32:26):
time it sounded like it was close enough to be
within twenty to thirty feet of us.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yikes.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
We took off again and ended up taking a wrong
turn on the trail. They probably went to the mac
and Fire Furnace trail. That's just my suggestion or my
guest here, but on his phone, and his phone his
friend had died, so we were just going based off
of our memory. This is a dark this is a night.
All the trails out there, they're not marked nothing out There's.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Talk about a recipe for disaster too, And then you
add into the mix like these guys are operating on
unexplainable fear right now.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Yep, adrenaline. We came out into a small grass clearing
overlooking the lake. The only thought going through my head
was if we can't find our way out here, we're
gonna have to stay the night with whatever was out here. Luckily,
we were able to retrace our steps and to find
our way back onto the main trail. Imagine having the
turnaround and walk back.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Now.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I was just about to say, I wonder what went
through their mind when they finally made the decision, Like,
all right, we got to turn around and go back
towards what we're running away from. Terrifying.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
By the time we crossed over the bridge, the one
that this is probably the Hudson YEP, the sounds had
completely stopped and we didn't hear anything unusual after that.
When we got back to the Trowhead, we jumped into
the car, locked the doors, and flew down the dirt road.
By now we're both in shock, Our hearts are racing,
and we have no words to even describe what had
just What we had just gone through the three minute
(33:52):
car ride down to the dirt road in my car
was surreal. We had both just experienced something that was unreal.
It almost felt like a dream. So it started out
as a fun spur of the moment Hyke turned into
an experience I will never forget. While writing down my story,
it almost felt like I was reliving the experience all
over again. It feels good to know that I'm not
the only one out there who's experienced something very out
(34:12):
of the ordinary in those woods. Listening to your podcast
the night it had happened was eye opening and intriguing.
It makes me wonder how many other people have experienced
these things and have never gone public about it. As
for what I think it was, my guess would be
a Sasquatch. I'm a firm believer of sasquatch, but I
had never had a first hand encounter with anything of
that nature until now. My friend was a skeptic, but
(34:36):
after that, this is experience, he is starting to become
a believer based on my experience. My theory is that
this thing, whether it was a Sasquatch or not, did
not want us there and was trying to make that nun.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah, that's probably exactly what happened. It was time for
you to go, and they were escorting you out of
the woods, which you hear frequently, That's exactly I mean,
it seems to be exactly what happened, and fully it ended.
It ended well for these two given the circumstances.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, and you know, there is a I do have
a follow up email with him as well, where he
kind of goes in a little bit more depth here.
So he he continues to send me these video clips. Okay,
and just in case, if you know you're able to
(35:26):
extract the audio and throw that in there, I'll send
the videos to you. And here's what I'm going I'm
gonna describe the video right now, and James is gonna
play it. Okay. So the thing is, like, my first
impression is that, like, if I heard this without hearing
his story, I would have said, well, it kind of
sounds like it kind of sounds like, you know, it's
more high pitched. It could be you know whatever. It
(35:47):
doesn't sound like this deep, you know, like like it's
like very I don't know. It's kind of like people
who are already so squatsch believers will have an easier
time to believe it than people who are skeptics. But
I'm gonna read this context real quick. What what he says?
So I responded, and he says, it took him a
(36:19):
few hours. Sorry, it took him a couple hours to
get back or an the next day, and he said, sorry,
I was not in the right state of mind to
answer the questions you had asked last night. This was
not only the dot, this was the not only the
documentation I have of the experience. I have an extended
version of the video. Let's see here. Sorry one second
(36:41):
and okay, So he said, sorry, okay, although there might
be something you hear in the other part of the
video that I might have missed. Also, I had mentioned
hearing the knock on the tree. If you listen closely
right before I say my friend's name in the vide
I sent you, you can hear a knock coming from
(37:02):
the distance, and the whooping came from it. I can
see where I mentioned that. I said, how it almost
sounds like a mimicking, So it sounds like he's mimicking
the exact same vocal inflections that he's doing. I can
see where you're coming from when you mentioned how it
was almost sounding like a mimicking my call. My friend
said the exact same thing to me when we were
talking about the experience a day after. The whooping noises
(37:23):
seem to follow a pattern. Some of them would be
higher pitched and more drawn out, and some would be
deeper and shorter and vice versa, which those ones I
didn't capture as much. You can somewhat hear this if
you listen closely to the video i'd sent you earlier,
around eighteen seconds into the video. So these whooping sounds,
I will say, they're not the you know, they're not
(37:43):
like super super convincing, and they're obviously a distant It
almost sounds like it's his voice echoing, but it's not
because clearly some of them take five or six seconds
or even ten seconds to respond, so you know it's
that way.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
It's also two guys running through the woods in a panic,
and so like you have the sounds of their backpacks
and their feet, so it's like we get what we
get it. Yeah, if they did the best, Like.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
If you listen really closely, I don't know how much
you're gonna turn the video sound up here, but if
you listen really closely, you can hear his heartbeat. Is
it's so fast you're just like about these guys are
clearly like freaking out. So yep, James is gonna play
some clips now.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
Oh at Amber Mountains, coming down from the mountain we
hiked up for sunset. We're hiking down the mountain when
we heard a whoop and then.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
As you just heard, it's close. Boys, we're getting the
out of here. Oh my god, I'm never coming in
these woods again. As soon as this some went down,
as soon as the someon went down, I'm saying often
(39:00):
was I going to consider my battery I cause were lost.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
If you find my phone, just know the sasquatch. God
its probably.
Speaker 7 (39:08):
Mh waight, mhm.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
H whoa.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Whoa whoah.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Cool?
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, so wild story, absolutely crazy. He sounds like a
perfect guest for next year's big Foot in the Blue
Lined episode, so probably have him on next October Sessions.
But absolutely fascinating story, unbelievable and not surprising at the
same time, so maybe not unbelievab I want to go
back out there, Yeah, it sounds like it would be
a good time. Now is the time of year to
(40:38):
do it. Fall is when it seems like everyone has
these encounters, especially this late fall hunting season, which makes sense.
All the dyear are much more active this time of
year too, so not surprising. But all right, Well, that's
going to wrap up this bonus episode of the October
Sessions in November right now. Again, this was an episode
I just had to have Jonathan on. We had to
(40:59):
talk about it in real time on the podcast because
it's just too good of a subject and people who
listen to this podcast know that both Jonathan and I
find this subject pretty fascinating. But Jonathan, where can people
find you online? What do you have to offer people?
Give them a little plug for yourself?
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yeah, you just can search my name, the one that's
probably on the title of this episode. Jonathan's Aheric. You
can search me on Instagram, Google, my website, Facebook, whatever
you want to use, and you'll see my photography content
my YouTube channel as well. Jonathan's Aheric Instagram, Jonathan's Aheric
and uh yeah, So if you love Adirondack hiking content,
(41:34):
I'm the I'm the man for you.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
There you go pick up a photograph for your house
of the Adirondacks, especially with his new snow liage. Snow
Liage pictures Absolutely incredible snow up, high fall foliage, colorful
fall foliage down below. Unbelievable stuff. But that's gonna wrap
up this episode of the forty six to forty six podcast.
Head over to forty six Outdoors to see everything that
I offer forty six outdoors dot Com. I've got content
(41:59):
to help you hike the forty six high peaks, content
to get you in shape for the high peaks, and
everything else. You might want to have a fantastic outdoors
adventure here in the Adirondack Mountains, But remember it always
leave no trace. Do the rock walk, and if you
carry it in, carry it out. See you on the trails,
everybody who
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