200.) Summit Sessions #75: Adirondack Community Foundation

This week I'm putting the spotlight on another Adirondack organization that work to make the Adirondack Park an amazing place to be. On this Summit Session I sat down with Svetlana from the ADK Community Foundation to talk all about the organization's work as they help working professionals in the ADK community thrive and help other who want to relocate to the ADK community have the opportunity to thrive.

From the ADK Community Foundation's Website:
Vision for Building Strong Communities across the AdirondacksOur Strong Community Framework — the first-ever philanthropic vision for the Adirondack region — guides our approach to investing in promising opportunities across our five "whole community" focus areas.  In partnership with generous donors and capable nonprofits, we bring all the tools of a community foundation to bear to meet today's pressing needs and build charitable resources for the needs of tomorrow.
 
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the forty six of forty six podcast Summit Sessions,
where we'll talk all things Adirondack back country and beyond.
From high peaks, stories and adventures to trail tips and tricks.
We'll dive deep into the heart of these mountains and
the people who passionately climb them. Adirondack maps and spruce
traps to bushwackx and backpacks. It's all here the forty

(00:22):
six of forty six Summit Sessions. Hello everyone, and welcome
back to the forty six of forty six podcast. Summer

(00:44):
is in full swing. It's July. The weather's hot, but
that's just how I like it, especially up here in
the Adirondack Park. Despite growing up here most people would
think I like the cold, but I actually love this hot,
humid weather that we've had, so I'm all about it.
I'll be getting on the trails this weekend. Wait, but
I am back this week with a Summit Session podcast
episode where we're going to highlight another foundation organization here

(01:08):
in the Adirondack Park that is doing work to make
sure this place remains the beloved place that we all love.
We're going to talk with Setlana Phillipson from the Adirondack
Community Foundation about what they do to help preserve this
place that we all like to visit. We all like
to recreate in in the place that feels like home,
whether you live here or not. So, without further ado, Svetlana,

(01:31):
welcome to the forty six to forty six podcasts.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Great, thank you, James, really excited to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Awesome, glad to have you. So as we get started,
let's just kick off right away, like let us know,
like what does the Adirondack Community Foundation do? What is
their role here in the Adirondack Park.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, that's a great question. So Aroanda Community Foundation, it's
the main community foundation serving the Adirondacks, and we act
as a catalyst for a positive change in the Adirondack
region by connecting people, ideas and resources to strengthen our communities.
So it's really about the communities. We do this by

(02:09):
making grants to nonprofits, schools, communities, offering workshops to nonprofits,
our educators, any community members, and also doing some advocacy
work in Albany as well as a typical community foundation goes.
We like to say money in, money out. We have

(02:32):
fundholders we take in donations, we take in grants, but
the biggest purpose is to then distribute the money back
into the community so we can strengthen and make the
community a better place. So we work across education, economic pathways,
basic needs, all the things that our communities need to

(02:55):
really thrive and be better for it. We want more
people to be here and to have a good lifestyle.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
I love it, and that was a big reason why
I wanted to have you on the podcast, is because
the work that you guys are doing is based not
necessarily in like in you know, preserving the park in
a sense, but it's so about the communities of people
who actually live here, which you know is obviously myself
is yourself, you know because obviously you know so Sveelana

(03:25):
grew up in the Adirondacks. We know each other from
high school. She is a Lake Placid High School graduate
as well. Now, obviously this is a tourist area. That's
what this area thrives on, tourism. But the fact that
your organization is helping people here who live here actually thrive,
that's super exciting from my ends.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
That's correct, and obviously a lot of people we also
very much care about the environment, the clean air, the
clean water, all of those things that make this a
great area, But it really comes down to the people.
We want the people to be here. We want full
time people to be here. And the moment we'll talk
about my specific project that I leave, but again it

(04:05):
goes back to the people and letting them be here
best versions of themselves in the way that they can
thrive and have a sustainable lifestyle.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
That's it. I get so many messages from people and
have for years about you know, ways how do you
make a living up in the Adirondecks, or how do
you make it work? Or because so many people want
to move here, they want to settle here, but it's
tough living, or it's tough living, but it's also tough
tough working, I should say up here. So I love
that there are organizations actually trying to improve this quality

(04:37):
of life for people and get people here to be
able to make this their home, because I'll tell you,
there are just so many thousands of people that want
to call home inside the Blue Line, and you know,
it's just has that has that attraction for so many people.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
That's awesome. We would love more people to move here
so anyone who is thinking wanting to do it, we
would love more of you up here. You know, it
is tough to be here. You give up certain not necessary,
but you give up certain lifestyle things that you've got comforts.
Let's say, in a way, it's a little bit tougher.

(05:14):
You got to be a little grittier. You know, if
it's snow's ten feet, got a should that dryway if
the snowplow can't get there. But you know, that's what
makes the people here so wonderful. It's all about helping
each other and being connected together in it together.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Absolutely, No, I love it. I love it. I always
always joked that I always joked that, like during COVID,
I should have became I should have become a real
estate agent, a realtor because I had so many people
I'm talking like, I probably had forty people during COVID
reach out to me about like suggesting a real estate
agent because they were all trying to buy houses up here.

(05:48):
As we all know, that kind of blew up the
housing market, not just in the Addronaic but like pretty
much everywhere in the country during that totally. But yeah,
people want to move up here. People want to be
able to make a living here. They struggle to figure
out what to do in the whole you know, work
from home remote thing that has kind of blossomed because
of COVID, even though I'm told it's kind of like
going away a little bit. But that allowed a lot

(06:10):
of people to relocate here and make this their home,
which is super exciting.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, agreed. A lot of people did move here during COVID.
Actually there's a good amount of people who moved before
COVID too, right before COVID, and they're like, thank god,
we got here before the rush. We kind of made
a home, We got our stake in the ground. But yeah,
I agree, a lot of people and some of them
right now are trying and figure out if they can stay.
I will say, and the COVID has shifted our work dynamics.

(06:39):
But there are a lot of remote hybrid workers here
and I work with a lot of them. But at
the same time, we have a lot of jobs here.
We have a lot of job openings, not just in
the tourism industry. A lot of people might think, hey,
we have a bunch of cleaners or servers or hospitality
type workers, but no, we have a ton of healthcare jobs,

(07:00):
a ton of New York State jobs, sunny jobs, even
it tech type jobs. So someone's think about moving here.
There's a lot of opportunity to do.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
So that's great, that's what we want to hear about.
So let's let's go back to the beginning. So the
Adirondack Community Foundation started in nineteen ninety seven. Just give
us a little kind of you know, origin story of
this foundation, because ninety seven, you know, it's it's been
around for a little bit a little bit of time now.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, it has, and it has grown tremendously. It started
as a community foundation all about the people and first
started taking the money in and always distributing out back
towards the community. Then it got into advocacy work while
always maintaining what we're strong about, grants and grants out,

(07:48):
donations and donations out. And then it grew into strategic
initiatives and that's where my role and the other roles
came in. While always keeping the base of it, have
our fundholders, having legacy, giving, having donations, grants, everything that
sustains a foundation, but then distributing out but then making

(08:09):
sure that we are the leader in the community. We
are taking a stance we are the voice where for
the people that we are a leader in basic needs,
in education, in economic vitality. And then we grew into
initiatives as I mentioned, and that's where my projects sprang

(08:30):
from my project since underneath our economic vitality pillar and
it's the Ironic Innovation Initiative where our purpose is to
allow more people to live here full time with a
good job, and our approach is through tech and tech
adjacent jobs. We have other strategic initiatives as well. Birth

(08:52):
to three is another one that's been here for seven
years that's working as it sounds, to allow children to
thrive from zero to three, to really addressing that that's
a really critical stage in a young person's life, and
to giving all the resources that that young person might
need to thrive. But so these are just two examples

(09:14):
of strategic initiatives. And so as we've grown and encompassed
more and more of the community, we realize there is
a lot of need, a lot of opportunity, and we
want to aid the community across all the areas.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
That's great. So now you talked about, you know, having
this push for tech and tech adjacent jobs, which we
all know are jobs that pay very well and you
know you can afford to have a nice quality of life.
Talk to me a little bit about thatally, how does
that work exactly?

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, And what we're trying to do is cultivate a
culture of innovation. So it's base. We want to build
an innovation ecosystem here. When I say innovation ecosystem, probably
the most famous example is Silicon Valley. There's hunch, not
thousands of examples of economic ecosystems across the world. So

(10:04):
take any large city San Francisco, Boston, Boulder, Austin, Chicago.
They all have a very strong startup community that then
grows and thrives. That's not going to exactly work here.
So we have to think about what are the pieces
that make up our ecosystem, our innovation ecosystem, and so

(10:26):
we're focused into areas such as remote and hybrid workers.
We start talking about there's a lot of them. A
lot of them moved here during COVID, some of them
moved here years before. So we want to give them
a sense of community and a sense of network because
a lot of these people feel disconnected. We don't have
as many professional resources as we could, and professional networking opportunities,

(10:46):
especially for remote hybrid workers. So that's one area. Another
area is exploring tech and tech cojac and training opportunities.
So what's already here? We have great organizations such as
up and Coding that provides software engineering crash course of
twelve weeks in partnership with entriple c We have programs

(11:06):
such as can Code down in Albany, but they do
a lot of virtual sessions as well. We have STEMP
programs are both these programs already incorporate a lot of
tech adjacent training into their manufacturing type training. So we
have these resources here in the project to try and
figure out what other resources do we need or could
aid our community. Then thinking about the job aspect, The

(11:29):
biggest thing is the job aspect. So what are the
tech tech adjacent job opportunities up here? Is remote work?
Is there opportunities here? I mentioned there are a lot
of job openings here, but can we even create more?
And then another going back to the roots of ecosystems, entrepreneurships, startups, founders,

(11:49):
we have a lot of entrepreneurs here. They this is
an area of people making do what they need to
do in order to thrive. You James being one of them. Right,
you moved up here, you created a business, and you're
an entrepreneur. Right.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
We have all creative to live up here a lot
of times and have to get creative.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Exactly so, you know, so we are a culture of entrepreneurs,
of makers, of innovators, and we want to promote that culture.
So whether it's highlighting our many innovation stories, whether it's
giving them more resources, or just simply connecting them to
each other so we can have more people doing that.
It would be great if at the end of the

(12:31):
day there could be a startup that started, stayed here
and provide a plethora of jobs. That would be the
ideal ultimate goal. That's not easy to do. A lot
of a lot of people involved startups know it's a
tough industry, but it's doable. We are, by no means
the only rural community that's trying to make a culture

(12:52):
of innovation, startup entrepreneurship. There's literally hundreds of examples of
them out there, and they're all doing something amazing and
taking a little bit of a different approach. Rural communities,
the Arondecks, especially six million acres over one hundred different
towns hamlets, right, and so we are dispersed place, so

(13:14):
we have to think about how can we make how
can we make it happen here? Another way is forming
mentor mentee network. A lot of entrepreneurs will say what
they often need is a mentor, So thinking about who
are the people who have done this and who can
help others guide them along the way. Whether you're an
entrepreneur or you're just you're in your career and you

(13:38):
want to advance, or maybe you're graduating college students and
you want to stay in this area, but you're not
quite sure how to make it happen. So connecting with
the right mentor that can help you with that. So
when it all comes back to it, it's this project
is about partnerships, about community and collaborations and bringing all

(13:58):
these resources into to one hub innovation hub that we
can connect the people, allow them to network, but then
giving them the right resources for what they need to
stay here or move here or upskill into an area
that allows them to have a good living.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Sure, man, there's so much that you said there, So
there's like so much, so much to unpack. Very informative.
I appreciate it. So let's start with like the networking
you know, part of what you're doing with the Adirondack
Innovation Initiative, so you're helping other people have not just
like a social circle in a sense, but a networking circle.
If they are someone who lives up here and is

(14:40):
a remote worker, you can network with other people doing
the same. But you're also providing a network of people
for people who want to start something, who want to
create and you know, have the resources necessary to as
we just talked about, get creative to move up here,
you know, be that innovator, be that on entrepreneur, because again,

(15:01):
you got to get creative to live up in the
Adiron decks. Not always obviously there's jobs that do exist,
but it will be whove you to get creative. And
the Adarandeck Community Foundation, it sounds like it's providing resources
and a space to actually do that, to get creative
but actually have the ability to maybe take it to
the next level via networking with other people. And you

(15:22):
talk about grants as well and all these different kind
of things. So let's say I am somebody who lives
will just say Buffalo, because I feel like half my
listeners live in Buffalo and they probably want me to
say go bills right now, but I won't do it.
I won't say go bills. So anyways, let's say you're
someone from Buffalo. Man, you have just decided all you've
ever wanted to do is live up in the Adirondacks.

(15:44):
What would be your kind of suggestion to them in
terms of how to take advantage of the resources that
you have put together with the Adironic Community Foundation.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, that's a great question. And love Buffalo. Actually, Buffalo
is doing amazing things with their tech innovation ecosystem. I
follow a handful of organizations from Buffalo and try to
take example from them. A Buffalo area Rochester, Syracuse, the
Mohawk Valley in western New York has done with their
building up their tech innovation is truly amazing. Tech Buffalo

(16:18):
is one of my favorite organizations and I follow them
regular and speak with them regularly. But to go back
to your question about if you're from Buffalo and you
want to move up here, I think it really varies
how under what circumstances you want to do it. Is
it that you need help with housing, you need help
with childcare, do you want to take find a local job,

(16:40):
do you want to be a remote worker, you have
a remote work job, or you're allowed you can all
of a sudden go remote, And do you want to
move up here? And so for depending which piece you
are looking for, If it's let's say housing your child here,
I would connect you with another organization who is more
first with that. If it's about finding a local job,

(17:03):
whatever capacity it is, I can either make suggestions or
connect you with the proper organization. If you are an
entrepreneur and you want to move up here and start
your own thing, there are a plethora of resources that
either provide training or mentorship or financial help to start
a business right, and so I would say then also

(17:26):
just from a pure standpoint of attracting new residents, there's
more multiple organizations that are working on initiatives to attract
new residents and make it more feasal for them to
move here. Housing is a big one that a lot
of people are focused on because depending where you want
to live up here, housing can be tough. Like Placid's
very expensive. You move two towns over, it's like half

(17:47):
the price. And so, but then again you have to
decide what's good for you. If you have kids, the
school system if you're commuting, if you're not, if you
need closer access to the airport. So I would say
from my standpoint, it would be most about the connections
that we're able to do for you. If you are

(18:08):
wanting to be an entrepreneur but you currently have a
job and you want to transition, we can connect you
with the people who have done it, connect you with
the resources. Let's say you are already on the way
to become a startup, you need funding. I can connect
you the right resource. So you hear me say the
word connect a lot, and it is really about the connectioning.
For us, it's about connections and collaborations and partnerships. I

(18:32):
partner with fifty different organizations on a regular basis. For example,
like mentorship program. There's a great organization called Upstate mentor
Connect that are more in the Mohawk Valley and they
provide wonderful mentorships some of the top top leaders in
the country, so we partner with them. I partner very
closely with Clark's Universities, Shipley Center and Innovation, which is

(18:53):
our region's innovation hub, and so we can do that
as well as I I host monthly events. I hold
monthly events for tech tech enabled I say a lot
of them remote hybrid workers, but really I say tech
enabled innovation enthusiasts, professionals, remote hybrid workers who want that

(19:17):
sense of community. We are also looking to start tech talks.
We are in talks about so plan to start our
first tech talk at the end of September, where we
invite two people usually to do a quick fifteen minute presentation.
What are you doing your personal or work life that
you're utilizing tech in innovative ways and there's so many

(19:37):
ways to do that. We're talking about bringing Hackathon here
which would really hopefully draw out some of those programmers,
the weeds or want to be entrepreneurs. We actually have
a pretty strong cybersecurity presence here, a number of cybersecurity companies,
cybersecurity conference that happens in North Country, so really trying
to amplify that. And so then going back to like

(20:00):
if you're moving here, Yeah, the connections providing the right
resources but also providing with a community, which often that
cultural community aspect of it might be one of the
tougher things about moving to a new area.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Certainly, although I feel like up here in general the
people are moving for the culture like that's actually like
the main driving factor for the majority of people that
would come to a rugged place like the ad K
for sure. So this is great. So you are just
the one stop shop for connection and pointing you to
the directions that people would need to go to if

(20:36):
they are serious about moving up here, which again I
get messages constantly from people who are seeking this out.
They want to be able to make this their home.
You know, people talk constantly about like we're going to
just retire up there, and I'm always like, well, why
not just move now? And you know, then you get
into conversation with them, and you know, you see the
overwhelming majority is of course the word jobs or housing,

(21:00):
like those are obviously the things that you guys are.
You guys are providing resources to make that a reality
instead of just a dream for people. And I think
that's super exciting. So let's say I was somebody Selana
who is listening to this podcast and says this is
I do need to get up there. Wow, glad that
this organization exists. What's step one for them to reach
out with their unique issue because obviously, like you talked about,

(21:22):
there could be housing might be their thing. Job might
be their thing, something else might be their thing, Like
what's the what's step one to get a hold of
your organization?

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, you can always email me. It's Fatlana at ADKC
Communityfoundation dot org, and then I would point you to the
right resources. There's organizations that as I mentioned there, the
way they're approaching attracting new residents is affordable housing. Whether
someone qualifies for affordable housing, that's a whole separate thing, right,

(21:51):
I think, just like making that initial outreach, and then
probably one of the first best things you can do
if you're trying to make the move is talk to
someone who's done it. And I know a lot of
people who have done it with families, without families, no
younger people, older people, remote workers, not remote workers. What
actually I found a good amount is spouse. Two spouses

(22:13):
move up here and they both have remote jobs for
one another reason. One spouse ends up leaving the remote
job and taking a local job because they want to
feel more connected to the community, and then the other
spouse ends up keeping the remote job, right, And so
there's so many ways that this can be done. But yeah,
if anyone wants to reach out to me, I'm happy

(22:33):
to direct them in the right pathway essentially. And I
will say, like the community, we as the around the
Community foundation. We as the foundation, we are not as
focused on the resources of attracting new residents, but we
are the collaborator and partner of other organizations who are

(22:55):
more focused on it. But what we want is stronger communities,
and so into strengthen our communities, we want to provide
any benefit or help we can to be part of
our community or if you're already with it, and that's
very cool.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah, And like you said, like your main goal is
not necessarily to attract new people to come up here,
it's to provide resources for the people that are here,
which obviously those things go hand in hand, you know,
for so many people. So you know, you said you
you mentioned that, ask someone who's done it. So you
guys have a you know, like a directory or you

(23:31):
know you have within your I guess we'll call it
directory for lack of a better word, Like you have
people who have done certain things and then you connect them,
I guess to do that exact thing, like to ask
each other questions. Is that kind of how it works
or how it Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, exactly that's how it can work. We have a
great network of people. I when I started this project,
we knew of about fifteen tech tech enabled most of
the remote hybrid people who are part of this like
looser network, not really a network, but we just knew
about them. I was able to grow this network from

(24:06):
fifteen to now almost three hundred in just a year,
and thank you. And you know, I don't know if
I can take the credit. Because people want to be connected,
they want to be part of something. And like you said,
people move up here for the culture. Not so true,
but usually they're moving up here for the outdoor and
recreation culture. And there's so much more to this place. Obviously, yes,

(24:26):
absolutely amazing outdoor recreation, amazing sports, but also a very
strong art community, very strong food and beverage community, farming,
we have these amazing We have people who work for Google,
for Amazon, Microsoft, IBM, people who are CEOs and sea
level like sex. They're all here and a lot of

(24:47):
people just don't realize. And so there's more than just
the outdoor Olympic tourism a sporting aspect. There's a very thriving,
intelligent workforce here and so that's also like an additional
community that can be for other people that we want
to make them aware of it. But yeah, a big

(25:07):
part of that network. Yes, there's many people who have
done it. You know, they want make this place thrive.
One of the reasons that Around the Community Foundation took
this project is to address some of the issues in
our community in that our population has been declining for
years now. Our school sizes have been going down. Like

(25:27):
when I graduate from Lake class of High School graduate
class of fifty four. Last year's class size was thirty.
Certain schools are merging, are population's aging, So we want
more young people younger to either stay here, to move here,
to boomerang. I like the word boomerang. There's a lot
of boomerangs, and then at around decks you and I

(25:49):
are boomerang. Most people, most people who move here, they
have a pre existing connection to this place. Whether you
grew up here or your grandma had a cottage here,
you grew up going to canam hockey or skiing, white
face or paddling or summer camp right whatever. May be
someone who wants to be in the Serrea, someone who

(26:10):
has some kind of connection to it, and then they
make it work to be here. And so there's a
lot of families or just single individuals. There's like all
sorts of profile of people who've done it.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
My name is Justin Alwell and I'm a four time
at Aarondack forty six er. Over the years, of course,
I have loved the long, grueling days on the trail
and the Adirondack high peaks. But in the last couple
of years, facing some serious health issues, I began to
put on weight and my knees began to fail me.
So just a couple of days before I was having

(26:45):
totally replacement surgery, I reached out to James but as
a great rated athlete program when he actually introduced me
to has Seek to Do More program, which is personal
coaching and a holistic approach to life health. So I
was needing coaching during recovery because what I had always

(27:05):
done was no longer working. And now just six months
after my total knee replacement surgery, I am back on
the Atarondick high peaks for the first time in two years.
It's an amazing journey and it's great to have a
coach like James to lead you through it.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
If you're like Justin and you find yourself in a
rut when it comes to your fitness, when it comes
to your habits and how you're showing up in the world,
and you want to become a stronger version of yourself,
not just out in the mountains so you can have
the best adventures, but so you can show up as
that same version of yourself in the four walls of
your home. My seek to Do More program might be

(27:45):
exactly what you've been needing. Head over to seek to
Do More dot com. Book a call with me today
and we can have a chat to see if this
is the right coaching program for you, so that you
can not only get back into the mountains and back
in shape the way you want, but so that you
can start showing up as the version of yourself that
you want to be. Book a call with me today
and I'll see you on the call. I think you

(28:08):
hit the nail on the head when you said right
there that they make it work to be here, and
that's really That's what I basically tell anyone is like,
that's the foundation of living up here is you decide
to make it work to be here, and that becomes
the priority. I know people who have moved up here
just found any old job because they want to be here,

(28:30):
like that's the priority. And then I know people who
sought out a remote job and then moved across the
country when they got the remote jobs so they could
be here, so and like everywhere in between, Like that
really is the key element. And I think you also
nailed it too when you said they have a pre
existing connection with the Adirondacks. That because I know, my
wife worked at the hospital for a long time. I

(28:51):
know from every time I have a dentist appointment, it
seems like every other one gets canceled because somebody has left.
I feel like if you don't have a if you
don't have that connection, it is hard. You come up
here having no idea what this is. It's not going
to attract every person. It's actually not going to attract
the majority of people because of the things like you said,

(29:13):
like you forego some you know, you forego luxuries in life,
Like you need to go to a mall. It's an
hour away. You need to get something, it's an hour away.
You know, everything's an hour away. So you have to
have this idea in your brain that I am here
because I want to make it work. First, and then
it sounds like your organization can help with the other
things after of the like, here's how we can help

(29:35):
you make it work ultimately, which is really exciting. And man,
talk about talk about a need to be filled because
of the amount of people that want to make it
work but are just kind of unsure how to make
the finances. Finances work.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, absolutely, it's tough and it can also be scary
to move somewhere new, right, it's probably easier if you're
living in Buffalo to move to Chicago or bost and
something that feels a little bit more familiar and you
kind of you know how to go through the steps.
You go on Craigslist or contact a real estate agency,

(30:10):
which Craigslist is not really going to work here, but
no one posts a Craigslist is still here.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
I couldn't tell you the last time I was.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
It does. It does, but people don't use it here. Yeah,
Like if you're looking by a home, you're going through
the same resources. If you want to brand, so oh
good luck. That's that's not easy up here, right, but
it's doable. That's where the personal connections come in. A
lot of things around here. You want to get a
plumber to your house. Yeah, you better know someone who
knows the plumber. If you want to find a place

(30:38):
to rent, you are going to do through a personal connection.
So personal connections are everything here. Even with this project,
I was able to make a lot of headway in
the first year. As I mentioned, I collaborate fifty different organizations,
a lot of them local, a number of them in Buffalo,
a number of them in the other New England rural communities.

(30:58):
And I have a a almost twenty year experience in
data analytics and data science. I was a senior director
of my previous company, head of a department. When I
go in to talk to local organizations, local people, no
one cares about my experience. They care that I grew
up here. That personal connection makes everything it does. And

(31:20):
so to your listeners, having that personal connection to someone
like getting it connected to a family who's done it,
getting connected to a resource for whatever it might need
to make a recommendation on housing or on childcare, that's
going to take you a long way. I do believe
our communities are amazing. Our towns are unique, each one

(31:43):
of them, and it's the various people that make them so.
And so if you can be connected if you can
personally talk to someone or hear about their experiences or
just make get that recommendation of like, hey, this is
the better real estate agent than this one, or to
someone or I like this person, right, I had a
great experience. I think that can really make a world

(32:04):
of difference.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, it's the that's like the small town living that
people are attracted to. Ultimately, they want that personalization. It's
also really funny when you said that people, the people
you talk to care more. They're more interested that you
grew up here, you went to school here, than like
what your what your resume says. And I think there's
I mean there's I feel like that's ah, how do
I put that? I feel like there's like there's good

(32:26):
and bad to that. There's good in the sense of like,
oh that's so beautiful, but then there's bad to that.
Like it really does highlight the small townness of it,
but not in a bad way. I don't actually think
it's in a bad way. But I also completely agree
that you talked about having these connections, and it sounds
like you guys can help people form these connections, which
is again super important, super important when you want to
make it work in a in a place like this,

(32:48):
and that's again, that's the foundation of what will bring
you up here is first making the decision that I
am going to make it work, and then you go
from there. Sometimes you have to, you know, it might
it might be taking a different job, it might be
taking maybe a pay cut, it might be taking doing
something as But the bottom line is is you want
to have You got to have the lifestyle desire to

(33:08):
be in a place like the Adirondacks if you're going
to actually truly make it work for yourself. Because this
is rugged living up here. So it's very exciting to
see the work that you guys are doing to help
make that possible for people.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Thank you, and I agree it is rugged living. You
and I have talked about this before. I'm convinced we
should have the slogan are you tough enough? Do you
have the grit to be here? Because yeah, you do
give up some things. You are a couple hours from
a medium sized airport. I don't think I want to
say big, you're two hours from all Been or Burlington.
If you need certain healthcare, things are further away. But

(33:45):
at the same time, you're gaining a small community. You
are gaining time in your commute. If something's fifteen miles away,
it's going to be fifteen minutes. When I lived in Boston,
i was three miles away from work. It might be
thirty minutes, might be an hour, maybe an hour and
a half, you don't know. So you have strong schools here,
you have you obviously have all the outdoor recreation in

(34:08):
your backyard. You know, we have great food up here.
Any anything like nutrition wise you can pretty much gets
you again in the bigger cities. And so it's making
that decision that you want to be here, and some
things will be tougher, but some things will be easier
and more convenient. And so you just have to understand
that trade off. And the job, the job, as we

(34:29):
talked about, that's the big thing. It's also a big
part of my project is the job aspect. So if
you have to decide can you take your remote job
with you, do you want a local job. There's a
lot of local jobs, a ton of them, you know,
and you're likely to have a good fit for it
because you know, we joked about maybe my resume doesn't
matter as much, but in these jobs it does. And

(34:50):
most people probably live moving from a bigger area, they
probably have really great experience that would be a really
good fit for things up here. So you could take
a job local job, or you know, if you're an
entrepreneur and you want to start your own thing, whether
it's a coffee shop or something more like a SaaS
software company, there's opportunity to do that too.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
That's great a couple of things. So you mentioned, you know,
your resume does matter. I can also guarantee no matter
what job you're applying for, you will become a better
candidate for them if you also tell them about your
connection and your desire to be in the adiron Cks,

(35:30):
because I do know for sure from other people that
I know who have businesses, or just again like people
who work at the hospital, and you know there's doctors
come in and out, in and out because they don't
really know what this place is about. If you're applying
for a job up here and you want to move
up here, and you lead with how what the Adirondack
Park actually like means to you, guarantee you are going

(35:52):
to kind of find your way towards the top of
the list of candidates, because that whole retention of employees
is is a big deal up here, so they know, oh,
this person actually wants to be here, let me give
them a deeper look on their resume. It's a thousand
percent going to be the case.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
This is cool.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
I also, you know, going on what you were talking
about before, about you know, again giving away some things
that you have. I remember back when I was like
touring in a band and doing the band thing. We
were on Cape Cod recording one of our one of
our CDs or our albums. I guess you'd call it now,
but I remember talking to the guy we were recording
with because we were like way out on Cape Cod,

(36:32):
like nothing's around, you know, it's you're It's just like
we talked about, like you need anything, it's fifteen twenty
minutes away, but it's always going to take you fifteen
twenty minutes unless it's the summertime. So I remember the
other people in the band asking him like why do
you live out here? Like, yeah, it's cool, you're near
the ocean and stuff, but you're so far from everything.
And of course the band they're all from Long Island,
so they're used to, you know, that lifestyle, whereas I'm

(36:55):
from up here, so I'm kind of like used to
driving twenty minutes to get anything. I remember him saying,
he said, I live where everybody vacations. Why would I
want to go anywhere else? And that stuck with me
so much. It was so impactful, that thought process of yeah,
like that's people come up here purposely to have fun,

(37:15):
and I can make that my home. Like that's great.
You now know, don't mind the fact that it takes
twenty minutes to get anything anywhere you go. But you know,
you see the beauty in it. You know, you're looking
at the glass half full in that situation. But that
really sums up at Herondack life as well.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
So let's say long by putting it.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Yeah, yeah, it just it just really it really just
you know I remember, I mean it was over it
was probably like fifteen years ago now, but it stuck
with me when he said that, and I I thought
it was really really impactful. So let's say somebody wants to,
you know, wants to take you up on this idea
that you said, like there's so many jobs up here.
It turns out like how can they how can they
go about finding those jobs or searching for those jobs.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yeah, there's So if you go to any of the
county's websites, there's a lot of jobs listed there. If
you go to New York State websites, a lot of
jobs there. Then what I like to do is isolating
the big employers in the area. So order Olympic Development
Regional Authority, they operate all of our Olympic venues. As

(38:15):
it sounds. You go to their website see what they
have available. There's a lot of companies in Plattsburgh. They're manufacturing,
some manufacturing base. But there's some very large corporations out there,
like Beta Technologies. Let's just say they have an office there.
They're in the aerospace company headquartered outside of Burlington, but
also a office in Plattsburgh. And so what I would

(38:39):
do is isolate the top employers, especially if you have
a desire specific industry or skill set and you can
use indeed, LinkedIn. I probably won't go through that route,
especially now you hear LinkedIn. That's just a lot of
things going to AI, I'm probably never going to see
a real person. So your best bet is to find

(39:02):
a company that interests you. I forgot to mention, we
have a bunch of biopharma, biomedical laboratories, healthcare jobs, those
are in such high demands. So if you're in the
healthcare lab biomedical biopharma field, like this is the place
for you. We want you here, and so you can
do a search of your employers and it'll come up

(39:24):
just so you can start doing your own research. Gal
lay of the land. If you want to reach out
to me and tell me roughly what you are interested in,
I can do that. I actually we're in the process
of building out a resource website where all of these
things are listed, so you don't have to take my
word on it, or you can do yourself, or you
can go and you can see these are top employers.

(39:45):
These are the websites you can find the jobs. But yeah,
you can do your own search. As I mentioned, I
would recommend isolating the companies and going to look at
their openings directly. Or you can reach out to me
and I can either make a recoondation or direct you
to local workforce development, which we have a number of
those organizations here.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Now, let's say I'm the type of person who wants
to come up here and I have this vision for
a business. You know, I want to start this I
want to, you know, create this thing that's in my brain.
How can they best utilize the Atronic Community Foundation in
particular and the resources that you provide for them.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yeah, so we don't provide resource directly to new businesses,
but we partner with organizations that I do. One is
ae DC. They're a great organization that provides loans to
small businesses. There's also the New York State Small Business
Development Authority. UH, they provide some great resources for small

(40:49):
businesses every We also have a lot of IDAs, So
every county has an IDA and they actually have a
great resource. So if you have an idea which county
you want to move to, I would actually recommend starting
with the local IDA if you are more of a
and this is if you kind of want more of
like a tangible brick and mortar business, if you are

(41:09):
looking to start something more software sass, let's say that
tech tech enabled space. The we have a couple more
focused entrepreneurial companies up here or sorry, not company organizations.
I mentioned Shipley Center for Innovation, which is high housed
at Clarkston University. That's a really good first step if

(41:31):
you are more of that entrepreneurial track that is a
little bit more into the startup tech, tech enabled world.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Great lots of information here for those of you who
are really considering this. So now, Smeilani, you're the director
of the Ataronic Innovation Initiative within the Ataronic Community Foundation,
and you said that you grew this this circle of
people from like fifteen you said, to over three hundred
in a year. So if you are someone who is

(42:00):
already up here and actually wants to be a part
of that, how do they how do they be a
part of that or that group, I guess, or that resource.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah, absolutely, it's a great question. You can either go
directly to our website and join our emailing list so
or you can join a LinkedIn group. Our website is
a two number two I hub dot org and a
lot of things we've talked about will be there. You
can join our LinkedIn group, it's called at Arondeck North

(42:31):
Country Remote Hybrid Workers A two I is also on
Facebook and Instagram, so you are more than welcome to
follow us, and you can also come to our person events.
I think the in person events is what provides the
greatest value to people. I try to have them on
third or fourth Thursday of every month, but all the

(42:52):
information is always on our website. We are having a
large one year celebration of the project, so very excited
that we've hit that one year milestone. That is on Thursday,
July thirty first at the Cambria Hotel in Lake Placid
at five pm. And if any listeners want to come,
if you happen to be in the area, you are

(43:13):
more than welcome to join us. We're actually having our
keynote speaker be Matt Dunn, who's the founder executive director
of Center on Rural Innovation. So that company all they
do is build innovation ecosystems in rural communities and they
work across communities twenty six communities in the US, so
they do what we're doing we're trying to do. They

(43:35):
have a lot of experience there and really excited to
have that speaker. But across the board, it's I would
say either joining our email list and or coming to
in person events is the greatest way you can be involved. Also,
if you are interested in mentoring, if you're local, somewhat

(43:55):
local you and more experienced you want to give back
to the community, you are always welcome to let me
know if you'd like to be a mentor, and there's
also other ways to support the initiative, to support the
around the Community Foundation. As we say, it's a we're
both nonprofit. It's a nonprofit, so always uh donations or

(44:18):
being a fund holder is something that listeners can consider doing,
and not just for this project, but across many, many
wonderful projects that we work across, whether it's education or
economic vitality or basic needs. We love to support all
sorts of projects, and so there's many ways for people

(44:39):
to be involved, not just with my project specifically, but
this community and around the Community Foundation, across the board.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
That's great as a nonprofit obviously, you guys are you know,
you need you need donations, you need supporters. So the
fact that there that this exists a is great. But again,
once again, like what I think what makes you guys
very different is you're here to support the people that
are here so that they can thrive and like life
can remain here in the Adirondacks, the communities can thrive.

(45:06):
You know, it's you know, sometimes it is a bit
of a bummer when you drive through the park and
see like towns that are just like hanging on by
a limb in the fact that there are there is
an organization like yours that is here to you know,
try to keep us moving forward. Ultimately. I think that's exciting.
That's very cool that you guys do that. Let me
ask you, So you moved back here, you know, you know,
you went to college, left, had this big career, came back,

(45:28):
you're doing this now. How do you feel, you know,
from your perspective, like, how does what is the Adirondacks
like now compared to before? Like did you notice differences
in it? Does it feel like a different place? Like?
Kind of give me your perspective, not necessarily as the
you know, Adirondack Initiative director, but just like as just Spetlana,
the person who went to school here. I'd love to hear.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Yeah, that's a that's a good question. It's busier than
it was when we were growing up. There's more visitors. Uh,
there's also more resource And maybe it's because now I'm
older and you take notice of it, but there's more
resources than there were when we were going through the
school system. A lot more people want to stay. I

(46:10):
don't know about you, but when I was about to
graduate I was like, no way am I staying here.
Get me out of here as fast as possible. And
now you hear like high school students, college grads, they
want to stay, They really want to be here, And
that's amazing to see. You can have a thriving career here.
Also you notice the difference in your groceries, the access

(46:33):
to organic, natural type of foods like these, like specialty
items that you may have not been able to find
before you now can. And I think that's really great.
But then also you know a couple like as I
mentioned before, there are some downsides where I do see
school size as shrinking. As someone who has a small

(46:55):
child who will be entering the school system soon, it
makes me a little bit worried because if school sizes
are shrinking, does that mean the resources allocate it. Does
it mean the opportunity for sports or for certain clubs
is that also becoming less. I'm not seeing that. I'm
seeing that actually the community is really responding to this
change and schools are emerging, but they're still offering the

(47:16):
same resources, which is wonderful. So I would say there's
from my perspective, there's some things that are positive and
some things that are not as positive and it's like
a combination of the two. But it's also a big difference,
you know, being eighteen versus now being forty. Of the
things you notice and you appreciate. And I don't know

(47:37):
if that's the place changing or you change as a
person you grow up, but I would say across the board,
I think this place is being more discovered. As you know,
you all your listeners know, they obviously love this place
for a reason, this place is being more discovered, It's
becoming on the radar. I used to live in San Francisco,
people in like California and know with those plays and

(47:57):
like it's on their radar, which I don't know if
a long time ago, and so we to an extent
are benefiting from that. And also our area of the
type of people who are moving in here were benefiting,
like going back to that innovation and divers city and
just a lot more things happening in whatever sphere you

(48:18):
might be interested in.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Yeah, totally, you were. You know, you, you lived, you,
you said you when you grew up, you graduated just
like everybody like I'm out bye bye. I was the
same way. I was a swaying Wait here I am
and here you are? So what was it that changed?
And you are? You know you had you had a career,
you change, you know, you came up here with me
in my career, I just just started commuting like really
far to New York City, so like it became a

(48:42):
long drive. But I didn't have to change and I
didn't like change a job. I was still doing the
same thing, just driving a lot longer and not being
home a lot. So for you, like, what was the
what was the turning point that had you say, you
know what I am, I will go back to the
town that I grew up in.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Yeah, you know, I hate to be a cliche COVID.
Back to COVID that we heard so much of. COVID
made it possible for me to be remote. I mean
we all had to be remote. And actually I started
being back up here by splitting my time between here
and Colorado. I was living in Boulder, Colorado when I
came back here, and I ended up splitting my time.
I was doing part of the year here, I was

(49:17):
doing part of the year in Colorado and going back
and forth, which logistically was challenging. But then it was
time to make a decision. I wanted to buy a place,
and it was either here there. I ended up choosing
here for closer access to family and the community, a community.

(49:38):
I felt stronger in the community. I could see my
son was really really thriving in Like, my son loves
being here, he loves having his grandma here. We have
a lot of family friends. I think that was the
TERMU factor. We also have a lot of family in Colorado.
There's also amazing community, amazing people, outdoor recreation, right, so,
but this place felt more conduci to that. I think

(50:01):
part of was the familiarity and just it felt the easier.
Let's put it that way.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Okay, So during COVID you went remote, you lived in Boulder.
I assume you probably just went to the office every
day like everybody else did.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
I was a team a walk.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Yeah, there you go, Old There's an awesome town. I
love that town so much. So you decided at that
point to just come come back here. I guess, like,
what made you decide I'm going to split my time
or did you just end up staying here for an
extended period of time, just as like an extended visit,
Like there had to be a moment that was a

(50:36):
change in your brain where you said, you know what,
maybe I will give this late Placid thing ago again. Obviously,
grandma's here, your mother's here, so that's a big part
of it. But what was that kind of shift for you?

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Yeah? I think for me it was a very specific thing.
I unexpectedly became a widow and a single mother. My
late husband passed away when I was visiting here, actually
a month into visiting here, and so it was time
to figure out how am I going to make this
work as a single mom, and as a single mom,
this place felt the right fit at that time. So

(51:10):
for me, it was a very specific life event, right.
And for some people life events might be you want
to leave a job, or something happens with your job,
or your kids are entering school and you're like, hey,
I need to make a decision, right. So I would say, yeah,
it was kind of that life circumstance that drove me
to do it and to make that decision between the two.

(51:34):
And then I continue to split my time with Colorado,
but I would say it came time to put down roots,
and I was already rooted here, and I think there's
something to be said, and I don't know how you
felt or other people feel, but when you have a
connection to this place, I felt like I was always
coming back here when I look back at life, things

(51:56):
happening in life, whether there's a big life shift between
jobs or one to leave one job, or maybe like
something in a relationship, it felt like I was always
coming back home during those great or rough times. And
I think I when I really started to think about
there's a reason for that, right and not just this
is home, but there's something about this place that makes

(52:19):
things better or makes it more stable. And so that
was that time in my life that it felt like
this was that the right fit at that time.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Got it. Yeah, life life situations, for sure, I'm sorry
to hear that story, but also I appreciate you sharing
sharing your story, you know, your actual events that happened
in like your your story that brought you back here
to the old, the old Adirondack Park that you couldn't
wait to get out of it totally can relate to
that big time. I always find it interesting, you know,

(52:53):
talking to people from high school who haven't been back
here since they left at eighteen, like they've never even
been back to the town for a visit. I'm always say,
that's so wild to me, because to me, this just
feels like home could because my parents lived here, and
even when I didn't live here, they obviously were still here,
so there was always the coming back. But I always
find it interesting when you don't have that connection, but
you clearly did have that feeling of home, which so

(53:15):
many people listen to this podcast who have never even
lived here a day in their life have that same
feeling because I think the Adirondack Park there is that
mysterious quality that it has where it like just brings
you in and it just you can't quite articulate it.
You can't quite put your finger on why it feels
like that, but it undoubtedly has that feeling of home
for so many people.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Exactly. Yeah, I definitely agree with that, and I think
more and more people are realizing it. I think there's
I think having children is a big driving factor too
for people moving up here and making work, whether you
grow up here like us, or people who have some
other connection to this place or no connection to this place.

(53:56):
I think that different phases of your life also kind
of propel you to be here as well. For many
many wonderful reasons.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Absolutely, it's got to be the right chapter in life.
And that's what life is. It's a series of chapters.
So as we start to wrap this up, you know,
I always ask people a bunch of questions at the end,
So I'm gonna ask you a couple different ones. So
the first question I always ask people is what is
something you always have in your backpack when you go hiking?
But I'm I'm going to tweak it for you. What
is something that you always like to do and you

(54:27):
always had to do when you would come back to
visit Lake Placid. You know that you have to go here,
you have to go here like that. What's that thing
in your brain where you always had to do?

Speaker 2 (54:38):
For me? It was walking Main Street and walking around
Marry Lake. Sure might be a common one, but you
I don't know if you did this, James, but in
high school that's what we did from age twelve to
like fifteen and a half, before you could drive. You
ask your parents to drop you off from one end
of Main Street and you just walk up and down,

(54:58):
see who you can see, maybe meet some new people,
check out a couple of shops you've been into one
hundred times before, and so for me it was like
not a visit home if I didn't make it to
Main Street and walk Main Street and walk Marre like
if I if I had.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
The time one hundred percent the exact same thing. And
then you'd see you'd see the people that had their
driver's license doing as we call loser laps up and
down Main Street in their car. Absolutely, I can completely
relate relate to that very nice. So now my next
question for you is in your mind, like, what makes

(55:33):
the Adirondack Park such a unique place.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Yeah, there's I can always talk about the outdoor recreation,
but at the end of the day, we're not the
only place with outdoor recreation. There's many, many wonderful, beautiful
places across the country with amazing ondoor recreation. What I
think makes us unique are all the communities that we have.

(55:58):
We have don't quote me on this, maybe one hundred
and fifty towns hamlets in the six million acres of
the Adirondack Park. And that's the thing. We if we
were a national park, we'd be bigger than all of
them in the US. And it's six million acres, it's
very spread out and there's many towns and hamlets and

(56:20):
they're so different from one another, and so you can
kind of have choose your own adventure if you want
to be closer. If you're more into water sports, you
can be near one town. If you're more into ski
uphill or uphill downhill skiing, you can be another region.
If you're more into cross country or snowshoeing, you choose
a different region if you're into canoeing again that water thing.

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If you don't be in between all of them, there's
a separate area for you, similar with the type of
industry you're in for jobs. So I think you can
be and the Adirondack Park and have a completely different
experience than someone else here based on what you prioritize
and what you enjoy. And I think that extremely unique
most rural communities. It's one community. We have over one hundred,

(57:06):
and I think there's very few places that can say
that that have as good outdoor recreation as we do.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
I love it very cool. I also want to mention
one thing with the going back to your question or
your answer before about walking Mirror Lake to this very day,
you know that you say to people like walking the
lake like that's the phrase walking the lake. But when
I ran around it, so I was able to run
around it for the very first time, Like I don't know,
four or five years three or four years ago, maybe

(57:33):
I remember the very first time I ran around it,
Like it was like a big monumental, like I was
able to run around the lake. Can you believe it?
It was just such a such a thing, right, it's
such a thing here. Lastly, it is running around or
walking the lake for sure.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Oh it really is. And one other things we talked
about high school there was definitely the cool side of
main Street and the not so cool side, and you
kind of chose which side you want to be on.
But yeah, I agree the running walking the lake. It
is such a special thing. And like yeah, if you're
not a runner, if you run into a same for me,
I didn't really get into running until I was older,

(58:08):
and yeah, it's like nice, I can do it.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Yeah, it's it's definitely one of those milestone things, like
it's two point seven miles, like who cares what a
random number, but you run around Mirror Lake, it's not
such a random thing anymore. So very good, well, Spelan.
I appreciate you coming on the podcast. So where can
people find you guys online and you know, connect with
you guys.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Yeah, you can find us at a too I hub
dot org or Adykcommunity Foundation dot org. Both you can.
They're interconnected, so you can go to either one. You
can always email me. I'm online. All of our staff
are online. All our emails are listed there. If you
want to just jot it down as you listen to this,

(58:52):
it's Fatlana at ADK Community Foundation dot org. Or join
any of our social media. Yeah, you type in our name.
We're on all the social medias. We would love for
you to connect and your bill space.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
All right, I love it. Thanks so much for coming
on the podcast, Fetlana, And just so you all know
you can make a life work here in the Adirondack Park.
You just got to have that grit to make it work.
You got to have that determination to make it work.
Head over to EIGHTYK Communityfoundation dot org to see how
they can help you. And if you are here and
you want some more support and more resources, check out

(59:27):
their website as well. But that's going to do it
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