Daily Habits And Thoughts To Gain Confidence And Success | Bas Rutten - The A Game Podcast: Real Estate Investing For Entrepreneurs

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Welcome to the A Gamepodcast with Nick Limania.
Digging into the minds and experiences ofsome of today's brightest entrepreneurs
in real estate and business, alongwith Hollywood Stars, UFC fighters
and your favorite rock bands.
People that have figured outhow to overcome obstacles,
take chances, live boldly.
And no matter what they do,they always bring their A game.

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Alright, my guest today on the A Gamepodcast is El Guapo, bas Rutten and
this podcast is the A Game podcast,real estate investing for entrepreneurs.
And the whole point of thispodcast is every single day we show
average people that they're capableof doing extraordinary things.
And with over 350 plus episodes of peoplethat have reached the top of the mountain,
whether it is aeronautics business, realestate, fighting, acting comedy, or just

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being a better parent person or human.
You have a blueprint with all these pastepisodes of people that can show you
all the things not to do and learn fromtheir mistakes or the shortcuts that
they took so you can get there faster.
But if that is not enough, we havea true Renaissance man on today.
Mr. Bas, Ruel Guapo, who has reached theheights of success in health in fighting.

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He was the culinary chef.
He's an actor.
He is been on TVs, he's been in movies.
He's been an inventor.
He's a man of God.
He's a man of health.
He's a man of the people.
Probably one of the top three mostlovable faces and personalities out
there, right up there with Henzel Graciehimself, and he has been on some major
movies, including, here Comes the Boom.
If you don't know his name, you willdefinitely recognize his face and you

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cannot miss or forget his charisma.
He is one of a kind.
He is one-on-one, and he is somebody.
That was an absolute honorfor me to have on today.
I have been watching him foryears and everybody loves Bas
Rutin, and you will love him too.
After this interview, we talk on so manydifferent things, even if you're not
a fight fan, it is all about the mind,the body, discipline, habits, fighting

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adversity, not caring about what peoplethink, and doing everything you can to
reach the true level of success in spiteof everybody else, and have the life that
you want to live for you, for the qualityof hitting your truest potential for
yourself and the people that you love.
Physically, mentally,spiritually, and financially.
So thank you so much for ba Rutincoming on, and you will have an
amazing episode to listen to today.

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I, it's one of my favorites.
Such a great human, such a greatconversation and I loved every minute
of it and I'm sure you will as well.
And the whole point of this podcastis I want to do deals together.
So as a real estate investor, ifyou would like to buy properties
from me, sell investment propertiesto me, or find a way just to work
together or partner together on somelevel, let's have that conversation.
Either text me the words real estateto 5 1 6 5 4 0 5 7 3 3 or DM me the

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day better just like you did for mine.
Thank you so much.
Thank you Bas.
Thank you guys for supporting the podcast.
This was amazing for me.
I hope you guys enjoyed it.
Have a fantastic dayof the A Game podcast.
Alright, my guest today is anathlete, entrepreneur, author,
inventor, natural entertainer.
And Warg renowned badass butt kicker.

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Now fighting out of Texasby way of the Netherlands.
He learned to fight through adversitymentally and realized he had a gift
for fighting physically as well ashe retaliated against the bullies
who experimented on him growing upwith asthma and eczema, and he had
to find a way to get back on track.
He was on track to be a culinary chefstudying French cuisine, and lucky
for us, he changed the recipe in hislife and found fighting, becoming

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fluent in boxing, Muay Thai, MMA,and even did some pro wrestling.
He was a three time king of pancreaschampion with some outrageous accolades,
including four hours of total fighttime, striking accuracy of 70.6% and
ending on a 22 fight unbeaten streak.
No takedown attempts put 14submissions, technically almost 50.
I know there's another story there,but he's a UFC veteran who won

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the UFC heavyweight title and isthe first Dutch champion in UFC.
History has since been inductedinto Pancrease Hall of Fame.
Mixed Martial Arts Hall of Fame, UFCHall of Fame and his sense of humor and
natural ability to entertain even landedhim some roles in the acting world.
Hosting inside MMA for five, nine years,sorry, nine years plus 18 wheels of
Justice, kingdom of ultimate power.

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And of course, here comes the boom.
He is the inventor of the body actionsystem in the O2 trainer, which
has proven medically to benefit youwith increased long and exercise
capacity, and is the reason JoeyDiaz can take a juujitsu class today.
He sits now as the chairmanand commentator for the fastest
growing sport, karate combat.
He's behind the realismof Grand Theft Auto.
You've seen him on Fight Side and PrideFighting Championship, featured on

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hip podcasts like the Joe Rogan, TimFerriss, and Patrick be David Podcast,
a drummer, a dancer, a singer, a dad.
He's never eaten at Popeye's.
He can even knit you a sweater.
He went from the leopard to ElGuapo and to our guest today.
Welcome to the A Game podcast, the legend.
Bas Basin.
Wow, Dick, that was a nice one.
Never, nobody ever did it like that.

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So there was a lot of stuff that,that nobody doesn't get mentioned.
So that was, yeah, Igotta do my digging, man.
You don't get a legend on andbring some sloppy intro there,
you know what I'm saying?
You gotta bring the heat.
Yeah.
I love, and this dayalso, I love this day.
It's a sad day, nine yearsago, unfortunately, Kevin
Reland passed away on this day.
That's this podcast.
Let's do it for him, still we meet again.

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I always say, so I justtalked to his wife.
We stay in contact with the wholefamily our family and their family.
We we can support him on difficult days.
Yeah.
Respect to a legend, man.
I know you've had a lot of amazing peoplein your corner along the way and some
of 'em make it through the journey,some of 'em don't, but you seem to
have left an impact on everybody, man.
Everybody.
I was saying earlier, everybody's a fan.
Everybody's got great thingsto say about El Guapo.

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Or my wife would always say, theyjust laugh because they're afraid,
but she knows how to put a dumper on it.
Yeah, they always do.
They always gotta say a little bit.
I do wanna talk about that though, sothat, that is something I had on there.
But before we dig into that, I've heardyou talk a lot about your daily habits
and I think, I was just on another podcastbefore this and we were talking about

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how he's man, you travel around, you godo juujitsu in the morning, you do real
estate, you do all these different things,but like, how do you find the time?
And I told him like, when the alarm goesoff at five o'clock in the morning, I
don't always feel like going to Juujitsu.
I don't always feel like doing acold plunge, but I. You make the time
when something's important to you,and eventually it becomes a habit.
And I know you're very big on morningroutines and habits and taking that time

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for yourself in the beginning of theday, and as we're getting older in life,
you're still in phenomenal shape, man.
You're doing all these different things.
The, it took me 10 minutes just toroll off half the things I know you
do, and you're still doing it andyou're still doing it with a smile.
So talk a little bit about takingyour day back and making good positive
habits that help you later in life.
I, I started doing habits andof course with my A DHD Mind.

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Thankfully I lost the age, so itis crazy, but it's not as crazy.
Then you have to live by habits andrules, because otherwise you get lost.
I'm talking to you and there's three otherthings in my head going on right now.
It's like a freaking crazy.
So habits is important to me.
Yeah.
And then I in 2014, Igot back to the faith.
Whole bunch of stuff happened to me.
Physically attacked by a spirit.
I thought I chased somebody in thehouse who read, just read through a

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curtain that was hanging a doorpost.
Curtain was flying up against the ceiling.
So I kept sprinting 'cause a personwalked through it and there was
nobody in the freaking house.
And then the next house wherewe went to, it was weird.
My daughter woke up first night andI said, how was your first night?
She said, oh, I was great, butI had a visit from two boys.
I got two boys.
You need spirits.
He goes, yes.
I go, honey, you're not freaking out.
She goes, no.
They were actually nice.

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One kept playing on the bat thewhole time, but I told him to be
quiet that I wanted to go to sleep.
And he let me go to sleep.
I go, okay, so how old?
I don't know.
16, 17. So I go on the computer to checkout if something happened in my house
because we just moved into the house.
And in 2001, some poor families,they lost their two boys.
There was a kid four kids,a girl and three boys.

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They went through our wall on theside of the home and I walk outside.
I see where they repaired the wall,and two boys died 17 years of age.
So I was like, okay.
And that together with the physicalattacks and that together with
my kids, seeing the spirit thattogether with that curtain right
in front of me flying up, I go.
Okay, this is not the world.
I think something more is coming.

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So I got back into it, and that'sa big part of my life right now.
So the first hour is always for God.
I say, and it's like you said, you know alot of people, they don't have the time.
Make the time.
Wake up early, you wake up at fiveo'clock and then you're gonna have
just you're gonna be justified.
It's also how you live.
Make your food, your ownfood, do all that stuff.
That's how I started doing in,in 2006, after my last fight,

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I didn't fight for seven years.
Then I fought one more fight.
I thought my injuries were gone.
So I got a nutritious andboy, I felt what a difference.
Just food.
I had no clue.
It was okay.
I beat the guy in the first round, but,all the injuries from Rebecca had to stop.
But since that moment I've been livinglike that, I've been, cutting down on
the drinking and all that crazy stuff,I actually out the last fight, I got

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an Oxycontin addiction out of that onebecause I was so pissed off with interest.
But beat that and then, startdrinking, stop drinking, stop that
and get healthy food, and thensuddenly your body just reacts.
It's amazing.
Now, I can't stand it when people,just ate whatever they want to
eat and they're complaining.
If you don't complain,I don't say anything.

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But if you complain I'm overweight,I need to go to the gym and you're
freaking chuffing in hamburgersand pizzas and all that stuff.
There's a reason for that, yeah.
So it's either or you fixthat or you don't fix that.
And I'm one of those guys wholike to have habits and I do it.
And so it's like my morning routine.
How many times you miss never.
I do a rosary every day.
How many times you missNever by even routines.
How many never.
Like I make a habit.

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I, once I commit whateverit is, I stay with that.
I always try to be true to my worth.
And once you live like that, yourlife will become so much easier
because you've been doing itfor a while, you get used to it.
Yes, it's hard to the beginning,but once the habit is developed
that it's easy sailing.
I love them.
And you bring up a good point.
I had Javier Vazquez on here and hewas talking about how he beat cancer.

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And he was telling me thathe still eats the same way.
He's everybody has these illusions.
That they help with these optionsfor food and you don't realize that
you don't really have any options.
And like the brain gut connection, evenwhen you're eating bad, not only do
you feel bad, but I notice that likewhen I get lazy and I start eating fast
food, my thoughts start to get negative.
My, like it affects everything, and hesaid something that made me think of it.

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He was like, every piece of food youput in your body is either feeding
your future or fighting your future.
And every thought you put inyour head is doing the same.
And it made me realize, likehow it is all the same thing.
And when I talk to people, like my parentsand they're like, man, my body hurts,
my energy's this, my energy's that.
I was like, yeah, bagels,pizza and Frosted Flakes today.
Like, how do you think you're gonnafeed, yeah, a hundred percent man.
It's food is just everything.

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Once you clean that up, I mean yourlife is gonna become and water.
Drinking lots of water.
Start with that ulcers.
First thing, I drink a literthat's a quarter gallon with
electrolytes and Celtic salt.
The salt.
That's what I use beforeI do anything else.
Then my coffee comes, it is, butit's, it is the making the steps and
it's not deviating from the steps.
And don't get me wrong, we have inand out here, in and out burgers.

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I go there three, four times a week.
And now especially I thoughtit was only double doubles.
There's triple, so I gotmy first triple last week.
I go, my god, I didn't even know.
The Flying Dutchman is a goodone too, without the butter.
A lot of onions, they havethose whole secret menu.
And thankfully because our daughter,she didn't want to leave California
because we moved here two years agobecause they didn't have in and out and

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we're, and it was literally her reason.
And and we're moving it.
Oh, and her boyfriend was there.
Then the parents from the boyfriend geta job in New Brown Falls, the city where
we're moving to, I go what the heck?
This okay, God is intervening here.
And then we're driving onthe freeway and I go, no way.
As I made a picture of Inn Out and Isent it to my daughter, she goes, I'm in.

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So immediately was takencare of, so thank you.
Inn out.
That's awesome.
For the dealbreaker.
Nice man.
So when you talk about you, you mentioned,some alcohol, some painkillers and
some things and I feel like addictionsoverall and distractions overall are
another thing where the number one thingI hear from people now when they're
like, oh, I don't have time, everybodyon Instagram's well check your phone.

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How long have you been on your phone?
And I've heard you speak a lotabout what a time killer and what
an addictions phone has become.
So what, like in 2025 you stillrun businesses, you still have a
social presence, but how do youfind the time to not get sucked in?
Because there's gotta be a level it.
I feel like technology is almost likefood now where like food's a tough
addiction 'cause you have to use food.

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The phone's a tough addiction'cause you have to use the phone.
Yeah, but this is this thing.
I'm gonna look it up right nowbecause then I can give you the
list, not off the top of my head.
Okay.
So every, for the last seven years, I'vebeen doing the beginning of the year.
It's a three month deal.
It's like lent on steroids.
It's a Catholic thing that you're doing.
It's called Exodus 90 in,where you disconnect from all

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the things that are useless.
So this is the list you'regonna get for three months.
You can only take ca short, cold showers.
You have to train, workout at leastfive times a week, full night's sleep,
no alcohol, no desserts, no sweets, noeating in between meals, abstain from
soda or sweet drinks, abstain fromtelevision, movies of televised sport,
abstain from video games, abstain fromnon-essential material purchases, only

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listen to music that lives the soul.
Use only your computer for work and foryour phone, only your computer for work.
And once I started doing that,it's two fasting days and
well on Wednesday and Friday.
But once I started doing that, and youcan go back to my social media that
seven years ago right after I did that,you realize my social media is 90% gone
because I realized I was wasting a lotof time on this stupid freaking thing.

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And you don't learn anything.
Well, what happens if youcan't watch TV anymore?
Sports and all these thingsyou can't watch anymore.
What do you do?
You gonna start reading and now yougrab a book, you say, oh, I always
want to learn about the ancientart in Rome with the fighting.
Well, I have that book now.
So now I start reading a book.
Now you get knowledge, and I telleverybody, if you ever wanted
to learn a language, well inthree months, you can do a lot.
If you really say, okay, let's do 45minutes an hour a day, which is a lot,

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a lot of people don't think it's a lot.
It's a lot.
It's say these guys say, I'mgonna meditate for 20 minutes.
They're all good luck with that.
20 minutes, it's a freaking long time.
If you wanna meditate the correctway, start with two minutes.
That's what I say, to really focus and tobe in there, but slowly but surely, once
you start doing these things, your bodystarts adapting and it becomes normal.
It's like when I was.

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With my asthma.
I always was afraid of getting tiredand it was a big problem with fighting.
And then I say, I'mgonna brainwash myself.
And even though I knew I was gonnabrainwash myself, it freaking worked.
Like in six weeks it was,do you need the persistence?
Every time when I get tired,I would start screaming.
I love this.
I get more tired.
And suddenly it clicked, boop.
And now I had to get tiredbecause they gave me that weird

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feeling, like a high almost.
So that helped me tremendously intraining because now I enjoyed it.
And you can do this prettymuch with everything.
It only costs time.
And we rather be on this stupid freakingthing than to actually sit down for
an hour and take time for yourself.
I think you are the mostimportant person in the world.
You should not never lie to you.

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And I say, I would neverlie to you, do lie to you.
Because if in the morning you wakeup, you say, today I'm not gonna
drink, and you four o'clock you popa drinking, even though it's one
drink, I can't stand it because Itold myself I was not going to drink.
Yeah, but Bas, what is good?
I know that.
I told myself no.
And if I say no, then it's crazy.
I used to have this with fighting.
I would go 10 rounds on theback and I could only do eight.

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And then at night I'm in bed and it'saround 10 o'clock and I can't sleep.
And I got my back, go to the gym.
I gotta do my 10 rounds because if Idon't do 10 rounds, I feel like a freaking
loser because I didn't do what I was,I said I was going to do to myself.
So once you start with that, just putyourself at the number one spot, because
from there, your family, everybody willgrow from it, and do not lie to yourself.

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Be true.
So whatever you say you're notgoing to don't do it at its heart.
But those hard moments that are alwaysthere for 10 minutes maximum, if it's
alcohol, I just drink a big glass offreaking sparkling water, whatever it is.
Or I eat a burger really fast orsomething, and then it goes away.
It's just fighting those 10, 15 minutes.
And once you do that, you're goodagain for a pretty long time.

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But it's the doing, everybody says it'severy person you meet on the street.
We used to be in my class Monday.
I'll be back.
I'll say, you're no, you're not.
I say, you're drunk right now.
You'll not be back.
He says no, I'll be back.
I say, you'll be the first one out of30 people who already said that to me.
I say, I'll guarantee you'll not be back.
And none of them ever cameback after they said that.

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That I could never, for myself, Iwould really feel as a loser because
once I say to somebody, I'm gonna doit, you ask me, bus, can you do this?
If I say, yes, I'm committed.
There's no, maybe Ididn't say, I think so.
I said, yes.
Or I say no, if I need some more time,I say, let me think about it for a day.
It's a very easy thing to say.
A lot of people don't wanna say no,just say, let me think about it a day.

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And then you can think about it.
And if you don't wanna doit, you simply don't do it.
Because if you can'tcommit 100%, don't do it.
Otherwise, you do it half ass.
You don't want to do things half ass.
And it's very simple.
Be on time, true to your work.
Like I said, you say somethingto somebody, you better do it and
respect everybody's time than ifyou can leave the profanity out.
That is something I acquired since2014, because before that I was insane.

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But then you look like you don't need it.
We're all doing it.
But why do you need, somebodysays, so why did you stop swearing?
I said, why do I need it if I, if itwouldn't, it be very sad if I can't
make myself hurt without profanity?
It's like being a comedianwithout profanity.
It's harder.
Yeah.
But the ones Kevin James does it.
He doesn't use one bad word.
He's freaking ter hilarious.

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So you can do it.
It's just doing it.
I love that man.
I always think about the saying, how youlive your day is how you live your life.
And so every day I'm like, althoughI don't want to do this now and I
do wanna order DoorDash, it becomesgiving into those easy decisions.
Now that becomes what your life is.
Your become a life of making excusesand now you chose the easy thing

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and all the stuff you wanted is evenharder, harder, far outta reach.
So I feel like that muscle of justgoing after things and committing
to things is something people saythey wanna do, but they don't.
How did you get so good at takingaccountability and commitment?
Because I, like you reallyjust seem to take it head on.
I've heard you say about how if you see aproblem, you like to solve it right now.
And there's the whole thing aboutyou were in front of the mirror

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for three and a half hours.
That's not gonna happento me again tomorrow.
Did that get passed on toyou through your parents?
Is that something just in your culturebecause you seem to have that take all
prisoners and just smash anything inyour way outta the way immediately today.
Like somebody, I've never seen anybodylike really go after it like you do.
I think it started as a kid, right?
With all my diseases that I had, if Ihad to go to the restroom while having

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an asthma attack for a week in bed,well that I was one flight of stairs up.
That means going to the restroom, that'sgonna take me an hour and 10 minutes
going down, mom, maybe an hour going up.
That's harder.
Now you gotta take two steps, sitdown, take two steps, sit down.
I was not able to eat ifI had an asthma attack.

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So once you have those things, butyou have that, I have them every
five weeks and a week in bed.
So now I, well, I have to, if I haveto go to the rest, well I gotta go,
so then you're gonna have to do it.
And once you start doing that, andmy parents also always instilled
from me working, making money.
This is important.
I want a stereo for my birthday.
I got the stereo without the speakers.

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Are the speakers.
Well, if you want speakers, you're gonnahave to get a job and get the speakers.
Well, I started working andnow I had two newspaper jobs.
I worked as a dishwasher.
I restocked groceries.
I worked at the farm at a farm.
I made really good money as a kid thatI was when I was 12 or 13 years of age.
And if you constantly food and nowadaysit's all, they wanna make money with
the phones, they wanna go be crazyand they get the likes and everybody's

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confusing happiness with pleasure, andbecause they think the pleasure gives you
happiness, not happiness is a dopamine.
And happiness is a serotonin.
And actually pleasure.
That's a dopamine.
Dopamine is way hotter.
And you know what dopamine kills?
What kills serotonin is dopamine.
So the more you buy, the more youthink you do things for yourself,
the more unhappy you become.

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Once you start seeing that, yougo like, why would I do that?
It makes no sense.
When I did the first when I gotback to the faith, I got my watches
away, got rid of the Porsche, gotrid of the, all these things I got.
Things that I don't need.
Why would I need it?
If a normal car is a good car, I gota freaking, just got an aviator and
love the freaking car, but it's halfthe price of driving a Porsche out.

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It's just being a little bit more normalwith your money, and realizing that a lot
of the stuff that you buy is not for you.
It's for other people's perception to you.
Oh, I got the latest Nikes, the $500.
Do you really buy $500 shoes?
Kinda stupid.
No, it's more for the people.
No, that's the women.
But these Prada bags or $6,000 bags.
Why do you think they want 'em?

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Because they can show I got $6,000 back.
That's the reason, notbecause they like him.
Everybody has him.
Why would you want 'em?
I You're not special.
Great would be if they would,somebody would make it themselves.
Yeah.
But that it's not worth money.
Well, to me that's worth way more,because somebody actually made it and
there's only one in the world from it,so you can look at it at that as well.
But that's the problem we have now.

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That's why everybody, if you lookat the seven deadly sins, right?
You got pride, wrath,greed, envy, lust, sloth.
Gluttony, all of them.
Everybody's doing.
Yeah.
Think about it.
It's all greed.
It's all pride.
It's all wrath.
It's anger, it's envy, it's,it's all the freaking time.
It's sloth.
They it's everything is unorganized.
It's gluttony.
Everybody's eating anddoing whatever they want.

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Because the more I eat you,I can do whatever I want.
I'm free.
No, you're not.
You're addicted to food.
You're addicted to porn.
You're addicted to this.
You're addicted.
You are addicted.
You are a slave to it.
It's the opposite of thinking.
You are free.
And that's.
I think what a lot of people havewrong, it's the easy way out.
I wanna lose weight, pop apill, I heartburn, pop a pill.

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Dude, I was taking so many pillsand then I realized, wait a
minute, I don't take anything now.
And everything is perfect because yourbody we're designed to fix ourselves.
But people, yeah, they don'tget it in their hard hats.
They complain.
Listen, if you don't complain.
I'm okay with it, but don't complain.
Walking around 200 pounds to heavyyou or a hundred pounds too heavy.
You can do it.
I, yes you can.

(23:22):
There's millions of people doing it.
That means you can do it.
This an alcoholic, you need balls.
That's what you need.
Yeah.
But by I'm especially, no,you're not Every person.
Like you had the same, who beatit, did it by having Coronas.
That's it.
And if you want to tell yourself thatyou're weak, sure you can do that.
I just don't like to tell myself that.

(23:44):
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(24:06):
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Everybody that invests inreal estate always just says
they wish they did it sooner.
Best time to start is today.

(24:28):
I love that man.
I had one of my buddieswas on my podcast recently.
He's dude, I drive around a crappy car.
He is 'cause I never want somebodyto think I'm cool because of the car
I drive when I get out of the car.
I want them to be like the guy that gotoutta that car was awesome and I feel
like you, as we were saying earlier, I.
I was like, everybody, like I haven'tgotten such like a strong response of
people that when I dropped your namethey were all, everybody's face lit up.

(24:49):
They were like, Bas, I loveBas love Bas, everybody.
And you made the joke earlier ofwell, yeah, they either, they're
either nice to me 'cause theylove me or 'cause they fear me.
And I thought it was a, aninteresting thing to bring up.
'cause they literally had it on a talkabout, I call it the Henzel effect.
I feel like you and Henzel Gracie arethe only two people I know of that
will give you the shirt off theirback, will look you in the eye, will,

(25:10):
doesn't even know me, sends me a textmessage and comes on the podcast.
But the second the disrespectpops in or somebody crossed
that line, that switch goes.
And I feel like you're people thatdidn't earn the respect by being bullies.
You earn the respect by showingpeople love and respect.
And I feel like tough guys feel like theyhave to be tough, but a real tough guy
is you, Matt, Sarah, Henzel Gracie thatdon't have to carry themselves like that.

(25:33):
So what is it about?
The aura and the energy that youbring, that you're able to command
that respect without having tomake people be scared of you.
But they also know not to pissyou off at the same time, but I
feel like it never comes to that.
'cause everybody loves you.
Yeah.
But that's, again, you justhave to live like that.
You zo it's that's the same with me.
I think he's the.
But he's the best from all the guys.

(25:55):
I always say Zo, I remember we had theInternational Fight League and they
wanted to get like a team for thesefighters that were even fighters.
And I go, why don't you get Zo?
He goes, what do you mean?
I go, dude, you'll neverhave a problem with that guy.
He will always do whateverhe says he's going to do.
That's the guy you could get him.
I go, oh let me text him.
It's the same with George Iro forthe internet with the Karate Combat.

(26:16):
Yeah.
He wanted to go after Stephen Seagal.
I go, don't get Steven Segal.
There's gonna be a problem.
First of all, he's not a fighter.
He knows some techniques.
He's a martial artist, but that's it.
He never fought a fight in his life.
He can say he did, but he never did.
We all know that.
He never did get George B's heart.
They never react back.
I said, let me send a text.
And a minute later he calls me,I goes, dude, I love that show.

(26:37):
I would love to be involved.
And I go, got him.
So that's the same as theguys like Leotta, Machida and
Steven Wonderboy Thompson.
All these guys are.
With the back karate guys the background.
They're just such a respectfulpeople and you can ask to do
a little bit more for this.
And normal guys, they're alreadyliving, oh, I'm the champion.
I no.
Don't, we didn't talk about that.

(26:57):
That's an extra five minutes.
I don't wanna do it.
I go serious.
Are you really serious With guys likecancer and all the guys that just
mentioned, you'll never have that problem.
They will do whatever you wantthem to do at that moment.
Oh, you can milk 'em, of course.
But you gotta make sure thatit stays within the boundaries.
But you'll never have a problem.
And that's why I love workingwith people like that.
I love that.
I've heard that from I've hadactors on the show and they, I'm

(27:19):
always like, why do you have thesame people in all the movies?
Adam Sandler is the sameguys in all his movies.
Kevin.
Yeah.
Kevin James.
Same.
Yeah.
Kevin.
James, same thing.
And they all say the same thing.
They're like, when you find peoplethat are reliable, you bring
them with you everywhere you go.
'cause it's so hard to find people who saythey're gonna do stuff and actually do it.
And it's, it's also in fighting.
If you start fighting, and I'vebeen saying this for 30 years, guys,
people go oh, you just made that up.

(27:39):
You could go back 30 years in interviews.
I always say this, whateverteam you have, and once you
start winning, that's your team.
Don't break that anymore.
Don't try to cut corners, and nowyou go to the U of C, you gotta make
more money and you wanna cut themanager out because he wants 10%.
I don't wanna pay the 10% becauseat that moment, every single
person I know who did that.
They lost their careers,they got higher injured, they

(28:00):
start losing, they get edits.
And I'm telling you, it'sthe freaking universe.
That's how it works.
That's the team.
That's a winning combination.
Keep those freaking guys aroundyou because they made it happen.
That's the special thingthat you have going on.
And once you do that, you gotta go.
Yeah, you could fly, but then you havefighters, like I said, been training,
and I don't wanna mention names,but I know a bunch of them started

(28:21):
training at six years age with somebodybeen fighting their whole lives.
Finally, they're 18, 20 years old, andthey go to the, so now the trainer has
been training them for I think 15 years.
And as soon as they go to U ofC, they don't wanna pay him 10%.
It was your second father, dude, howdare you to do something like that?
And then you see right away,ooh, the career goes down.

(28:42):
That's how it goes.
And I always tell people,don't take that risk.
Money is money, you don't need money.
It is good to have money to, forsomething breaks down, but and you
fill up your gas and be respectful.
Like for instance, if I pump gas.
I still think every single time, and Ido it two days ago, I think about the
times that I could only pump gas for $4or 50 cents and now I can just leave.

(29:04):
I just leave.
Go buy something insidewhile it's pumping full.
That's, and that's a small thing, butit's a big thing if you think about
it, to be able to just do it or walkingin the grocery store and say, oh, I'd
like to eat this today this, that,and you'd just be able to buy it.
I'm not talking about pointingout Bentleys and all that stuff.
No, just simple living things.
And if you are able to buy thatat the moment, you want it.

(29:26):
That's big power.
I love that, man.
I think that thegratitude goes a long way.
I was just having this conversation whereI made a post a couple weeks ago about how
the only way you get more things in lifeis by appreciating what you already have.
Everybody worries about thenext thing and the next thing.
It's well, if you're not happy with this,you're not gonna be happy with that.
You think you are, but you're not.
Yep.
It's buying, it's they wannabuy stuff to make them happy.

(29:47):
It's like my phone.
I always, needed the newest phone,the newest update, the newest
thing, and I just refuse this.
2014, I start cutting.
When it breaks, I'll buy a new one.
I don't need the lateststuff and all that stuff.
Just, flow with the go, with the punches,it's and again, it's an addiction.
It like getting a tattooist, likethe women who get very skinny
and then suddenly they get lumia,bulimia, they start even more

(30:08):
and they don't see it anymore.
It's like these bodybuilders, they, whenthey spray paint themselves pretty much,
they don't see any more how dark they are.
And then some of these ladies,they get really, it's just
not really good for your skin.
Again, it's an addiction.
You just step back from it.
Look healthy.
That's what I'm trying to say.
And everything you can control, butwhen you tell yourself you can't,
yeah, no, you, it is not gonna work.

(30:29):
But if you simply do it andyou bite for three, four weeks.
Oh, three four weeks, yeah,but it's in your life.
It's like me kicking a Suboxone,the stuff that you get to
get off the pain pills, yeah.
It's hard.
Yeah.
It's harder than quitting Oxycontin,because that shit gets in your system,
in your bones, it gets everywhere.
It destroys everything, so thatI did it in 11 days while weaning

(30:51):
off very low for three months,and then still it was 11 days off.
Hell, it was like, whatthe heck is going on?
All the senses came back.
I had to wear shades everywhere.
The light was too bright.
The sounds.
Somebody would scratch a table.
I would drive me insane because allthese things starts coming back.
You've been damping it for all theseyears, for three and a half years,

(31:11):
and suddenly it starts coming back.
Smell came back.
I bet it was the wildest thing andyou were talking about food at the
beginning, but people don't, so I didthe carnivore diet for a bit, right?
Okay.
This eye is minus five and a half.
That means if my opponent stands infront of me and he does this, he looks
down, but he keeps his face on me.
I can't tell that he's looking down.
That's how bad this eye is.

(31:32):
I can't read anything with it.
I read everything close with it.
When I start doing thecarnivore diet in three weeks.
This eye was as clear as this one.
Huh?
Food.
You remember you saidfrom food, it changes you.
It was the most insane thing and it's likeworking out and good food for performing.
I. And I'm not performing athletically.
I'm performing memorizing stuff.

(31:52):
If I don't work out and I have tomemorize a paragraph, it, I will do
it in half the time if I worked out.
That's how big the differenceis with working out and eating
correctly, and I'm very blessed with,I can eat what is healthy for me.
And I used to do this with everything.
So also the bad things, right?
Yeah.
Alcohol.
I don't care what you give me,I drink for the alcohol that was
at the time, so I can just, but Ican drink the worst drinks though.

(32:15):
If they're healthy for me, I simply do mybreakfast, I. The Rock was laughing about
it because we were talking about movies.
I just saw the movie with the Rock, right?
The Smashing Machine Mark Story.
Oh, yes.
And he says, what do you eat is breakfast?
And I go, yeah, you'renot gonna like that.
He goes, what do you mean?
I said, because I burn like a maniac.
Meaning, I said, well, it's two poundsof sweet potatoes and a 60 ounce steak.

(32:35):
That's my breakfast.
And he goes, how can he do thesepotatoes and not gain anything?
I say, I can eat eight large pizzas a day.
I won't gain, my daughterhas the same thing.
It's everybody thinks it'sa plastic and which it is.
I'm very happy with it.
I'm not saying that,but I gotta keep eating.
And that sometimes can be superannoying because if I don't, my
whole fridge starts coming like this.

(32:56):
Like I did the carnivore for four and ahalf weeks and the doctor looked at me,
he goes, dude, you gotta go back to carbs.
That's my belly.
That's my fat, 4% body fat.
He goes, dude, it's just not healthy.
You need to eat some cups.
So now I have the clean cups,like asparagus, sweet potatoes.
I keep those, stuff like that.
I try to stay away from the pastas andbread because, not because it makes

(33:19):
me gain weight, because it doesn't.
I used to eat 12 slices of bread beforeI go to sleep, before I go to sleep.
Half an hour later I go to sleep.
Otherwise, I wake up at night andI will eat whatever I can find.
So you see, so it's not forthat, but it's for the pain.
If you have joint pains,stop eating carbs.
Stop eating bread.
Stop eating pastas.
Stop eating that.
And if you do pastas orrice, make sure it's fresh.

(33:42):
Don't heat it up because then youwill have the same thing if you
do it fresh, yes, you can do itwith the rice, the same thing.
But the next day, that same stuff, ifyou cooled it down and warm it up again,
now you're gonna have problems with it.
So why you start seeing thosethings and the sweet potato noodles.
Well, I got up with Asim, thenew president from karate Combat.
He's a Korean food lover, this guy.

(34:02):
And he, every time when we go somewhere,he knows the best place for Korean food,
like Korean barbecue and all that stuff.
Man is so good.
And I was eating these noodles.
I go, dude, what can I noodle?
I sweet potato noodle.
Whoa.
Boom.
I got my whole fucking full of it,because it's healthy and it's good.
It tastes good.
So find your things.
Just live by those things andyou're gonna be just fine.
I love that, man.

(34:22):
All the stuff you put in your bodyand your brain I think are important.
And it switches gears to what youwere just talking about, where I've
heard you say your dream job is tomake people laugh and get paid for it.
And the way that I was introducedto you is my buddy Johnny Uag,
he's a Marine who passed away.
So shout out to him.
He would love that you were on today,but he showed me that video years
ago of you giving a demonstrationof how you fight a guy in a bar.

(34:44):
And it was the heel to theballs and the d like that.
Like today, I was just watching itagain today and off the bat I was
like, man, this guy people poststuff on YouTube today and it doesn't
work, but it was like, like this isreal stuff that Bas Rutin would do
to you if you fought him in a bar.
And he's an ass kickerand he's really funny.
And I was like, this guywas born for entertainment.
He was born for tv.
And now pivoting you, yousaid you just did a movie and

(35:07):
you've done a ton of acting.
You've been with Kevin James,who's been down in Longo.
So talk a little bit about the fun sideof you that likes to make people smile
and you like to get into the acting side.
How did that whole world open up?
I think it already startedas as a kid, right?
The being the leper in school.
That's what they callme with my skin disease.
You wanna be liked, so youbecome the class clown.
You stop, make people laugh.
And I think that was alwaysthe way of me dealing with my

(35:29):
problems to make comedy out of it.
Also I realized that I had a verybad on my hands and arms and in my
neck, but I knew there was people outthere who are covered for head to toe.
The same disease.
And then I had an asthma attackevery five weeks for a week in bet.
Well, I know there's people out therehave 365 days a year all day, all year.
They have to move to a country likesw Switzerland or Italy, like high in

(35:52):
the mountains in order to actually canlive because that's better for their
lungs, so compared to those guys, itwasn't really that bad what I had.
And if you look at that at life likethat, there's always, this is the
thing that somebody told me one time,I think it was a comedian actually.
There's always somebodywho has it worse than you.
Always.
Whatever you have, there's peoplewho have it way worse than you.

(36:13):
That same thing, way worse.
Once you realize that, then you're blessedthat you don't have it like they have it.
And for them it's bad, of course,God never gives you something
if you can't handle it, right?
So they will get something out of it.
What we don't know.
Probably gonna pass on into the next life.
And if you look at the near deathexperience from everybody who goes
there and from people who go to hell,that's a fun one if you watch those.

(36:34):
But people who go to heaven, none ofthem wants to come back pretty much.
They say, oh, you gotta goback now to your family.
And they go yeah, but I can, I stay here?
They all wanna stay there becausethere's no judging, there's no nothing.
And you, apparently youfeel that right away.
And I go, okay, well if you gambleeverything in your life to, for that not
to be true, and then you're gonna be wrongat the very end, well that's eternal.

(36:56):
That's time stops, right?
So that means it's forever.
So it I would simply take therisk because the only risk you're
taking or the only thing you haveto do is being good to others.
That's not a bad thing.
Well, it's apparently very hard in thisworld right now to do that to and whatever
do treat their neighbor as thyself.
Well, that means also treattheirself as thy neighbor.

(37:18):
That means you include it.
So if you hit your neighbor in theface, it's the same as hitting yourself
in the face, in the eyes of goddess.
Well, if you do that with food and witheverything else, well, you're gonna live
healthy because you wanna be healthy.
If you have a healthy body, eathealthy workout, you do all these
things that you know that theBible tells you to do, you're not
gonna have any of these diseases.

(37:38):
Everything's gonna be solved.
It's, like I said, I don't takeanything anymore to go to sleep.
Nothing.
It's all clean.
I have heart blood pressure.
I freaking my cholesterol,everything was wrong.
And as soon as I startedliving healthy, I cut.
I cut everything out, and I'mcompletely free of medication.
So the body is amazing too, buddy.
I love that man.
I love that.
And when you have a lot of similarities.

(37:59):
Things I was going through.
I have a permanent hand injurythat's happened a while ago now,
but I remember I was so doubt onmyself when it first happened.
And then I went through so manysurgeries and you meet other people
in the waiting rooms and they tellyou what they're going through.
And there it's all so much worse.
And I remember I always, fromthat day on, I always remember the
quote, I cried when I had no shoesuntil I met the man with no feet.

(38:19):
I always try to remember that.
That's a good one.
I love that one.
I used to say about my neck surgeries.
I had my whole arm.
Look at this.
This is all gone, right?
From all this atrophied becausethe nerve stopped working.
They don't send signals anymore.
I couldn't pull the trigger from my gun.
I was relearning everything withmy left shooting me the gun.
Wipe your butt.
That's funny, right?
But try to wipe yourbutt with your left hand.

(38:40):
See how that feels.
Well, you're gonna be forced todo it, but I still have my hand.
And then after the fourth surgery,I got my power in my hand back and
that's right away because I alwayscomplained, I want this heart back.
I'm good, God, I got my hand back.
I'm not complaining anymore.
I'm a very happy person right now.
If this goes back, great.
If not great.
I don't care anything morebecause I can do anything with it.

(39:01):
What I want anyway.
I'm not fighting anymore.
I don't need it.
But my having your handback, that was a big thing.
I love that man.
And so when we talk about getting yourhealth back, it's a perfect transition.
I was just in Fort Lauderdaletrading some jiujitsu at Henzel, Fort
Lauder do with my buddy JP Smith.
And I was like, dude, Bas Rutten'scoming on my podcast this week.
And he was like, man, I gothis O2 trainer game changer.

(39:22):
He goes, I have never gottentired wrestling or rolling.
Since then, I literally have onesitting at my front door right now.
I can't wait to use it, but I was doinga lot of research for this and I was
blown away at the, some of the names youdropped of people that have done this,
that have come back as testimonials.
So I would change them.
So talk about the O2 trainer, man, peoplewith asthma, people with lung stuff.
There's a way you can literally start toget your health back today by using this.

(39:45):
It's and the bad thing is the bestthing is only five minutes a day.
It's not like you have todo a whole freaking workout.
So this started all the way back.
So I was very sick as a kid.
We establish this now with a weak inbed every time I'm been a asthma attack.
But after I would resume my trackand field, which I was high level
already at the young age, but tr field,needless to say 800 meters or 1500
meters or 400 were very bad for me.

(40:07):
I wanted to be the next BruceJetter, the Dutch Bruce Jetter, the
decathlon gold medalist in 1976.
He was my freaking hero.
This guy's unbelievable whathe could do at the time.
Now, of course he changed, but.
He still did all these remarkable things.
He was a freaking animal man.
It was unbelievable.
So what I realized as after an asthmaattack, I would break my running

(40:27):
times if I would do competition.
And I go, why is this?
And I, and it drove me insane.
I thought, maybe it's the medicationI'm taking, maybe I can't do that, take
that medication before I have to run.
But it wasn't.
And I went to the doctor.
I spent a lot of time atthe doctor's, of course.
And then suddenly one day Irealized that it was been there for
a long time, a drawing of a pairof lungs on the wall in a frame.

(40:48):
And I was looking at it and it showedan infected airway, a bronchial tube,
and it showed a healthy one next to it.
And I go, oh my God, I've beenworking out my lungs with resistance
for 24 7, for seven days straight.
So now with the infection gone,my lungs are much stronger.
It's easier for them to pull air in.
Whoa, why don't I come up withsomething that controls the air intake?

(41:10):
So I gotta a washer.
I don't have, I. One heremaybe I have put in here.
No, the washes and bolts, yeah.
A little washer with a little tiny hole.
I put it in front of my teeth and Iwould start breathing through that.
Of course.
Do not do that.
It's very dangerous.
The open your mouth shoots in your lung.
If it goes through the tracheait bypasses on a bronchial tube.
That's it.
You can't ly it out.
You're dead.

(41:30):
I just did a video aboutthat with with gum.
Once it passes and people have died, don'tchew gum, especially when you get hit.
You do this and shootsin there, you're dead.
You can't high leak it out, then Irealized, okay, I started trading with
that, but it was of course very dangerous.
Then many years later, I was alwaystalking about the routinize that
was the original name for it.

(41:51):
At parties, people talk aboutinventions and then suddenly and I
would say my invention was control,the air and take, and everybody always
said, man, you gotta make that thing.
That could be really good.
And then in 2011, I started making it.
Now I carried an inhaler with me.
Everywhere I went, had to, if Isneeze violently, two or three
times, I have to spray open my lungs.
That's how it works.

(42:11):
Lots of people out there haveexactly the same thing that I have.
If I work out for 30 seconds, one minuteI need to open my lungs and then I can
go the whole workout, every workout,every fight, always use an inhaler.
Three and a half weeks with theprototype, my inhaler is gone.
I go, whoa, this big, right?
So I sent it to a friend of mine inHolland who has asthma, and I told

(42:32):
him, just start using this thing.
Didn't say anything for the rest.
He started using it.
Calls me back eight days later.
I wanna sell him in Europe.
He's selling him in Europe right now.
Just my asthma is gone.
I go, dude, we're up to somethingnow, what I didn't know is this
is inspiratory muscle training.
He's been around for freaking decades.
But the fact that I made such a simplisticthing when I was a kid made me bypass
all the patents that are out therebecause nobody had it like I had it.

(42:55):
So then you tried to sell it, youtried to sell it, and and it, nothing
really worked until I met Dr. Za Rech.
She's a world renowned breathing expert.
And I went to her office at on fifthAvenue, actually, Joey Diaz, she were
talking about, oh yeah, help with her.
And she, the first thing shedid was ing my chest expansion.
And I, I'll tell you alittle bit why that is.
So I'm exhaling, inhaling,and she started laughing.

(43:17):
She goes, yeah, that's not possible.
Do it again.
So I do it again.
And then she goes, wait.
And she runs out.
And I go, okay, this is weird.
Goes back with another doctor.
Okay, well it's either reallygood or really bad, right?
And she goes.
If I don't bring him,he's not gonna believe it.
I go, what's going on?
She says, well, normally they break therecord with chest expansion by a quarter
of an inch or an eight, you almost wenttwo inches further than everybody else.

(43:37):
How is that possible?
I go, well, I'm using this thing.
So I gave it to her.
She started using it, felt the power,stopped putting it in her books, and
now people start getting infections.
Then I found out there's over 2000published medical journals about it.
So that is not clinically tested.
It's clinically proven, and you can readover 2000 published medical journals.
So what it is very simple.

(43:58):
Now, first of all, you have to understandthat your lungs, they're two bags.
This is no muscle in the lung.
So by themselves they can't do anything.
The way for you to open 'emup is by chest expansion.
If your chest expense that creates avacuum between your body and the lungs
and that vacuum, that opens up your lungs.
So zero muscle in your lung.
If you can expand your chest, you die.
Well, the chest expansionis done by your diaphragm.

(44:20):
Attach it in the, it's athin dome shaped muscle.
Tendon Looks like this a little bit, andwhat it does, it drops down in the body
and from that angle you don't see a lot.
But this is what happens inside the body.
It expands because it drops down.
Now this outside here is connected to thebottom part of your ribs all the way, 360

(44:42):
degrees circumferential around your body.
So you have back breathing muscles, sidebreath muscles, and form breath muscles.
It's not only the diaphragm, it'salso your intercostals, your external
intercostals, which you have themuscles in between your ribs.
So if you diare breaks and it doesn'tfunction anymore, you can still
breathe by your chest expansion.
Use your intercostals.
You have 11 pounds.
An average human being has 11pounds of breathing muscles.

(45:03):
Don't you think it willbe great to work them out?
So let's see what it does.
So what happens when meta boflex,when you're guessing, that's a nice
word for saying you're guessing.
I use the same example, if you heardthis before, I'm using it because it's
the easiest to get inside your head.
Imagine you're running a hill.
A steep freaking hill andsuddenly your legs start shaking.
Boom.
It's like you've been hit to the face.

(45:24):
You start gassing.
What happens when you're gassing?
Okay, when you are guessing, your bodystarts redirecting your oxygenated blood.
It will take it away from your legs thatyou're using right now because it's gonna
send it to the number one priority in yourbody, which are your breathing muscles.
Three minutes.
Without it, you are dead.
That's why it's that blood stealing.
That's the medical term for it.

(45:44):
You can look it up.
Blood stealing.
Okay, so how does endurance work?
Endurance.
Well, you train hard and thenyou get better endurance.
Yeah.
Well, what goes on in the body?
What there's gotta be a reason for it.
Okay.
Well I found that reason.
If you work out a muscle overand over again, it becomes
more efficient at its job.
And the word efficient already says it.
It uses less oxygen.

(46:05):
'cause the more efficientit gets, the more your step.
It starts increasing.
I. Whoa, wait a minute.
You just said that with the bloodstealing, what if you train your 11 pounds
of breathing muscles with resistance,give them endurance so they don't have
to steal the blood anymore from yourlimbs that you're using at that moment.
Boom.
And that's what the O2 trainerdoes, and not only that forces

(46:25):
you to breathe the correct way.
I can tell you, take a deep breath.
Take a deep breath right now, butyou're lifting your shoulders.
That's a completely wrong breath.
Four to six of these breaths is thesame as one diaphragmatic breath.
You pull in the same amountof air, so you can do take the
number four, four times this.
That's the lowest numberbecause it's probably more.
And you can do the sameair by doing it correctly.

(46:47):
Well, this thing, this forces you to usethese muscles, your core, your diaphragm.
Because if you don't use them, you donot have the enough power to pull that
air through that little tiny hole.
You're gonna be forced to startbreathing through your belly.
So that's why in thebeginning, I tell people.
Sit down, grab the bottom ofyour chair and start breathing.
Only use your, thereshould be zero movement.
Your chest should go forward a little bit.

(47:08):
That's good, of course, because that'schest expansion, but it should never race.
And once you change that and 95% of thepeople are breathing incorrect, Google it.
Don't believe me, Google it.
Find out at the 5% who did that,their breathing classes they
probably had breathing classes.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Now we do breathe perfectly when wego out of the womb because if you look

(47:29):
at a baby, you see the belly move.
Perfect.
That's what every mammal on the world,in the world, they breathe like that.
We're the only ones whodon't breathe like that.
And this is the reason.
It's a stupid reason you're gonna go.
Yeah.
Is that right?
Again, look it up.
It's not me.
Doctors are saying this.
So once you go to school it all stopswhen you're five and a half years of age
because now you go to school, now yousit down, now you start wearing belts,

(47:49):
now you go to the doctor, they say,Hey let me take a listen to your lungs.
They put a stethoscope here and you'rethinking, Hey, this is where my lungs are.
No, your lungs are not here.
They're here.
You know this also anotherone, and this is a big one.
You start getting interested in theopposite sex or maybe even the same sex.
Doesn't really matter what it is,but you start thinking, wait a
minute, if I keep breathing throughmy belly, they might think I'm fat.

(48:10):
And those altogether, those littletiny reasons are literally the reason
that we start breathing incorrectly.
And once you do that, again,I was fighting world titles.
You'll see me breathing like this.
I literally have a video out there.
If I go now on the back, it's bizarre.
I go full on the back and I come out.
It's like this.

(48:32):
It is no more.
That's completely gone,completely under control.
And once you give your body your machinemore oxygen, look at what it does to cars.
Look, it does do everything.
The more oxygen, the betteryou perform, of course.
So that's in a nutshell, whatyou owe two drainer is it's way
trading for your breathing muscles.

(48:52):
Now, don't expect, if you wanna transformyour body, you go to a gym, don't think
that next week you have reached your goal.
It's gonna take at least six weeks tillyou see notable dis differences, right?
Well, to train your 11 poundsof breathing muscles and to
untrain you the bad breathing andusing your diaphragm, horizontal

(49:12):
breathing, they call it as well.
That's gonna take about six weeks.
Six weeks.
Dude, it's five minutes a day.
I do five minutes.
It's not even between threeand four and a half minutes.
So if you work out, go to yourworkout five minutes before.
Do it before your workoutand then do your workout.
Now, the only thing I'm gonna say aboutthis, if you are, if you have a stamina

(49:33):
workout and you just started the OTtrain, and don't do it because it's like
doing 20, 20 30 squats with a very heavyweight and now you gotta run stairs.
It's not very counterproductive, butbecause now you make your breathing
muscles tired, so you will get moretired once you start using endurance.
But after six weeks, thisis exactly the opposite.

(49:54):
I have a body access system, thatpricing device in my garage right here.
I do this before I go hit it,and I don't have a second wind.
Don't have a second wind.
No, because they found out now, andthese are pre preliminary studies that
say that your second wind is actuallyyour diaphragm being warmed up.
And once your diaphragm is warmedup, then you can really go, well, I'm
warming it up before I start workingit out, so it's already warmed up.

(50:15):
I don't have a dip, I just go right away.
It makes a gigantic difference inhealth, in everything in sleeping.
If you go to my website, oh twotrader.com, there's a little tap
science click on that, and there'sa dropdown menu with all published
medical journals, meaning 100%proven what it does not tested.
This is these people, right?
It's clinically tested.

(50:36):
Don't buy that product.
Because if it was clinically proven,they would've said, clinically proven.
What does it mean clinically tested?
Almost the result of it.
That's what you should ask.
But they will put theword clinically in there.
The people go, oh, it's clinically tested.
Yeah, but what was the result?
Go buy it.
It's stupid.
If it was proven, it would'vesaid, clinically proven.
This is clinically proven, butall the, and then you're gonna go.

(50:57):
Back problems balance cysticfibrosis, asthma, COPD.
The things that it doesis it's mind blowing.
I had no clue.
I thought it was just taking care ofmy asthma, but then I realized it's
doing so much more because breathingis so important for your digesting.
It's massages, the heart.
All these things are very importantto the body, and if you all take it

(51:17):
away, then on top of that, everybody'sbreathing with a mouth open.
Nobody's using their nose anymore.
That's another thing, right?
So start first, start focusing on yourcore, that you breathe correctly, and then
start stopping that mouth from opening up.
Try to breathe as much asyou can through your nose.
Now, if you're working out hard, thesepeople say, I'll always breathe through
my nose one and a half minute with me.
I'll guarantee you.
Open your mouth, guarantee you.

(51:40):
There's no way that you can do it.
Maybe a few people inthe world can do that.
Yeah.
But otherwise you're not going to do it.
Yeah.
But Bas, I like to breathethrough my mouth through my nose.
And this is through the mouth.
Yeah.
We breathe about 24,000 times a day.
500 till a thousandbreaths through your mouth.
It's not gonna make any difference.
This is 30 breaths.
That's it.

(52:00):
And now once you do this, you'll makeyour inspiratory muscles stronger.
So now you'll be able to breathe intoyour nose even better, because you
just made your whole system stronger.
So that's pretty much the whole workof the O2 trainer in a nutshell.
That sounds awesome, Matt.
I got one outside.
I'm very excited to, touse it and to grow on it.
And I was joking around, but I'm gonnasend one to my good buddy, Rab Dwa Willie,

(52:23):
and we're gonna watch what he does to allthe other UFC Bantham weights with the
gas he already has, plus the O2 trainer.
I'm excited to see what happens.
Yeah, but that's the coolest thing.
If you look like 30 Ferguson andthere's Michael Chandler, all these
guys are known for the stamina, right?
Look at him, 'em whenthey go to the corner.
They breathe like this.
Yeah, there's no movement whatsoever.
They just breathe correctly.

(52:44):
And now imagine you breathecorrectly and you use the O2 trader,
so you make it stronger as well.
Now again, you don't haveto steal the blood anymore.
Now it just goes, that's why all theseOlympian endurance athletes are doing it.
Nobody, the guys who do thebiggest name in boxing Alexander
Sek, he was in the movie too.
So I talked to him, I said, whatdo you do for your breathing?

(53:06):
I go he used my competition.
And I said, no, that's good because,but he's the only guy that I
talked to who's using inspiratorymuscle training for endurance.
Every Olympian, they all do it becausetheir coaches, they will tell you
how important this freaking thing is.
That's awesome, man.
I know we're getting tight on time.
You've been excellent with your time.
But before I let you go, so I stayedat a hotel in Austin six, seven months

(53:28):
ago, and I walked in and I was like,I. Why do I recognize all these people?
And all of a sudden I realizedlike Mike Beltran the all
the refs, all the same faces.
You see all the extreme guitar.
It was like being backstage atlike the fighter hotel for the UFC.
Yeah.
And I was like, what'severybody doing here?
So I was talking to aboutBeltran and he was like, dude,
karate combats this weekend.
And it was like the same weekendthat Eddie Bravo was there.

(53:49):
Dude, I saw everybody and everybodyall weekend was in the hotel,
like President Austin was there.
Like you weren't there thatweekend, but everybody was so cool.
And I was like, man, the fact thateverybody that's part of this is
so cool makes me wanna go see.
So I started watching it and then acouple weeks ago I was randomly in Miami.
I didn't even realize I sawmy buddy Dennis Bazooka taking
pictures with Ton Over a goat shed.
And I'm like, what's he doing in town?

(54:10):
Karate combat's in town.
I was like, you know what, I'm gonna go.
Yeah.
I rolled up with no expectation,dude, I had such a good time.
I saw you right there doingthe comment dude, like a
pretty reasonable price ticket.
It reminded me of the old days,like the first U ffc I went to was,
the Ultimate Fighter finale four.
I went to go see Matt, Sarah, dude.
There was like three rows of peopleand then some standing room and

(54:32):
you could go wherever you want.
Like it wasn't this it was so casual.
The energy was cool.
There wasn't a bad seat in the house, andthat's what Karate Combat reminded me of.
I was like, dude, this is really cool.
There's a bar, there's entertainment,there's crazy characters.
Like when UFC first started, you wouldsee like the Tapout guys running around.
You got the guy in thesailor suit running around.
I'm looking right across my buddyAljamain Sterling's right there.

(54:53):
Rashad Evans poet.
You, Dean Thomas.
Dude, it was a fantastic time.
The people were cool.
The energy was cool.
The fights were great.
Talk about karate combat, man.
I really like it.
I really think you're onto something.
Yeah, I, that was a gift that theygave to me like five years ago.
They called me and they saidHey, we're gonna start a full
contact karate organization.
We need a commentator.
I go, sign me up,because, what do you mean?

(55:13):
I go, well, I started withkarate, karate, TaeKwonDo.
Then I started doing T boxing,competing Thai box at MMA come
up, and now if I can pull it back.
To karate.
What a great way to come fullcircle, that would be awesome.
And full contact.
Oh man, sign me up.
So then immediately I sawit was completely different
what everybody else did.
They started doing the CGI behind it,now we're in the future, then we're

(55:35):
in the past, then we go in space.
We, we could go back.
We went back to Okinawa and then we talkedto the founder was of course actors all,
but we, while we're doing the show, we'retalking to the founder, how did you start
with doing karate and what does it mean?
And so we got all these informationfor the, for those kind of people.
And now it's just taken it by storm.
In the beginning the karus, they wouldliterally come from point karate, right?

(55:57):
So they would, in the fight,they'd go, yeah, they would stop.
And then the other guy would just keepgoing, oh shit, I gotta keep going.
So they started cross training, andonce they started cross training
and boxing and kickboxing, suddenlythe level started, because these are
guys who go to the Olympics, theysuddenly started to get really good.
Okay, now it's time for other people.
To in to invite to the show.

(56:18):
So now we have this great namestrikers, even from Thailand.
People are coming in who wannatest karate combat to see if it's
really that big and good luck.
I always talk about this, thatRaymond Daniels, he probably hates
it because I love this guy, bythe way, so he knows that also.
But he had to fight against the goat.
Rafael Aef, who's 42years of age what is it?

(56:39):
Five World titles, eightEuropean or 11 European title.
He's the goat of karate, but karate.
If I had to bet my house on a, anopponent, I would've put it on Raymond
Daniels because it's Raymond Daniels.
But Raymond lost to a karate guy whohad his third fight full contact.
So that was an eye openerfor everybody to go whoa.

(56:59):
Okay.
So now we wanna see a rematch because thecomputer from Damon Raymond, he's a freak.
It goes in there and he will findfreaking answers and he's gonna come back.
But it was a guy, a solely karate guywho beat a really phenomenal striker.
And that, I think put us on the map.
Now people start realizing, wait, this,that's just, these current guys are good.
And they have the endurance, they havethe persistence, and the heart training.

(57:20):
So now everybody is good.
We have some seen some guys, theguy who's the champion now, the
better way, champion Arturo Vara.
This guy went to coach at probably a yearago, and he got beaten by everybody there.
He had no chance.
Then this guy started developing andhe went on a freaking crazy stick.
What his last five fights?
Four by knockout, if not five.

(57:42):
And now he's the champion, so yousee these guys and he's also the
interim waterweight champion now orlightweight have to figure that out.
But he is also a guy from Pakistan.
The guy from Pakistan from the mountains,literally got him straight from there,
slapped in the gym underneath the cage,because that's what the goat she is,
they have 50 people sleeping there.

(58:03):
They get all the a day.
Ask them and his wife Laura, they'refreaking amazed you people, because you
see the craziness from goat yet on, yeah.
Yeah.
Social media.
But this guy's got a heart, man.
He, if a fighter loses, he's crying.
He, it take, it makes itvery personal for him.
He's all in with his people.
And that's what I love about him.
He's also very religious and he has this.

(58:25):
It's just the standards in order.
And that's what I like.
And he says, yeah, peoplealways think that I'm crazy.
I say, don't worry about people.
You know that's an opinion character.
That people opinion iswhat people think of you.
Character is who you are.
I know your character, you're a good guy.
That's it.
Don't worry about people becausethey make up shit anyway.
You can't stop it.
People always complain, there's no,not one person is not everybody's happy

(58:47):
all the time, and you will get that.
But we know who you are and we knowwhat you're doing and you're doing
a phenomenal job since he came in.
He propelled this showeven higher, even bigger.
That's awesome man.
So people want to catch it.
I highly recommend it.
I tell people, a lot of people wannafind out about well I wanna go to the UFC
fight 'cause I wanna meet the fighters.

(59:07):
I was like, you got a better shot ofrunning into some of your heroes and
getting a hug at a picture, at a karatecombat event than you do at a UFC event.
Yeah, we have it next week.
Two weeks, the 28th in Colorado.
We're there and, but the peoplealso you get the app and say
everybody wants an Yeah, I got it.
But they work with Bitcoin,Jesus what do you call it?
Geez, I have a whole portfolioand I can't believe that.

(59:28):
I don't know.
Name now.
Not worries.
Crypto.
Crypto.
Choose too.
Crypto.
There you go.
Duh.
So they have their own crypto coin.
Karate.
Oh, gotcha.
Ate token right now it's super cheap.
If I were you, I would go buyfor 200 bucks karate tokens and
start gambling on the fighters.
We can't call it gambling, wecan't call it only up gaming only.
Why?
'cause you can't lose.
So you be a moron if you don't do it.

(59:50):
So if you'll, if you bet fora fighter and the fight or
lose, you don't lose anything.
If you bet for a fighter, he wins.
You get 90% of the winnings,9% goes to the fighter, 1%
goes to the losing fighter.
So they're gonna get somemoney from it as well.
So now it becomes interesting.
And the people on the app,they decide the rules.
Like for instance, when we startedkarate, there were no knees, there's

(01:00:11):
no kicks to the thighs, there's onlycalf kicks, no knees to the face.
No long hooks.
Were not, no uppercuts were allowed.
Well, once we gave everythingin the power of the people.
So the people who start gamblingon the app, they say, Hey, we wanna
see hooks, boom, hooks got heavy.
We wanna see normal lo kicks, gut addedknees to the body and to the face.
Gut added.
We love to see elbows.

(01:00:32):
Well, friends, aggressiveelbows are really like you see
now we got the ground in park.
You have, you're allowedto take somebody down.
You can't grapple becausethey will stop the fight.
But if you stay in a squat position orknee on belly, which is also illegal.
You can just beat as long as you wanted.
The beginning was only three seconds.
Now they voted.
We wanted to let go untilthe referee stops it.
Okay, so all these rulesnow we're fighting.

(01:00:53):
It is tie boxing.
What we're doing right now, prettymuch tie box with takedowns and
ground and punch over the people.
And then the space you already talkedabout with the 45 degree angle walls
it's, makes it a whole different thing.
You can use these walls,you can run up to them.
Raymond Daniels got locked upin the corner, just runs through
the corner, out and out again.
He did it also when he wasground and empowering a person.

(01:01:13):
He just walked up the corner wason the other side bang, hitting.
So he's right, right awaybecause he's got this crazy mind.
He starts using the pit as well.
Now there's a downside.
If you fall with your back againstthe wall, you're not gonna sit down.
Anything goes.
I can literally post my hand nextto you and I just elbow you in the
face, kneeing, whatever I wanna do.
You're still legal once you sweephim and he touches the ground.

(01:01:34):
Now it's the ground in opponent.
And to come off the 45 degree angle wall.
It's a hard thing to do.
You're going to have to put an armbehind you and if your opponent
is right in front of you, so nowyou gotta come up with creativity.
You gotta see how thehell do I get up here?
Or if you're in the corner, that's areal screwed up position right there.
We tried it.
The fact that I couldn't find to wayto get up yet, Safeway, it's very hard.

(01:01:58):
We've all been thinking, even GeorgePierre, everybody's going like,
how can we get up bouncing up?
But still, if the guy's right in frontof you, the only thing he has to do
is hit you and you fall back again.
See?
But that's, that makesit very interesting.
Also, the people are watchingare literally on the pit.
Yeah, they literally got their hands onthe pit while the fighters are fighting.
So it felt, feels like afight club kind of thing.

(01:02:20):
The cameras are sometimes behindthe people, so you see the audience
and then the camera behind it.
It's a badass show man.
And then especially in the background,it's all CGI id, but the UFC did
in the Pearl, we've been doingthat for four and a half years.
The only thing with us is youcan see it on TV and in the
Pearl that it was beautiful.
It was inside that you could see it.
But if you watch the show, all thebackground, and actually that show from

(01:02:43):
the UFC gave us a lot of promotion becauseeverybody was going like, dude, credit
companys been doing that for four years.
So really great promotion for us.
Plus we completely different thanthe UFC, so we don't have to worry
that they're gonna be angry with usor any other organization, boxing,
because we're complete on our ownfighting leak that nobody else has.
And because of that, I think we're thenumber one guy right now after the UFC.

(01:03:07):
I think it's awesome, man.
So I know we have oh two trader.com, wehave Karate Combat, we have the Karate
Combat app, we have Bas Basin.com.
Is there anything elsethat you have going on?
Are you said a movie coming out orany other ways that people can keep
in touch with you or follow you?
Yeah, so first of all, karate.com.
It's free by the way.
You go just to karate.com and it's free.
You don't have to pay anything.
So that's a nice little thing.
When I, when you were in Austin,I was shooting the movie with

(01:03:28):
the Rock and Emily Blood and RyanBader actually plays Coleman and
he did a phenomenal job as well.
So we might see him in more work.
It's the movie with the Smashing Machine.
Mark.
Mark was my student.
So Benny s who's the director,he called me, he says, Hey,
we want you to play yourself.
I go 25 years later, okay,we're gonna need some CGI.
He goes, no, I didn't even get makeup.

(01:03:50):
So I don't know how they're gonna do it.
We'll see about that, but,or I'm just an older guy.
But he did phenomenal job.
Dwayne I was, there were moments whenhe started speaking like ker and he
lowering his voice and been a very softspoken, his whole attitude, the way he's
standing, Ker had a certain way of that.
He was always standing.
And it was crazy because when Iwalked him, when the very first

(01:04:10):
time I said, what's up man?
Finally we meet and the first thinghe did was kissing me on my head.
I go, and then I go, that's weird.
And I realized, right?
I, ooh, that tour used to always do that.
So I think he was right awaywas shooting in character.
And I think for him to do all theseaction moves and now his first drama
with Emily Blunt as the sidekick whowas a phenomenal actress, I I think

(01:04:32):
it's gonna be a really nice movie.
Emily Blo by the way.
So cool.
Because she also was talkingabout the street fighting di these
things you don't understand, right?
You go, Hey.
I said, Hey, very nice meeting.
She goes dang.
I go, whoa.
What's that?
That things that fun things whenyou find out that people who you
believe you know are really great.
That they actually know you from thatcrazy freaking clip that you made.

(01:04:55):
So it's nice.
Yeah, October, I believethe movie is gonna come out.
Very cool, man.
Well, obviously I'll have links foreverything in the show notes for
all the stuff you have going on.
This has been a thrill for me, man.
Everybody says great things aboutyou, Matt, Sarah, Ray Longo.
Like Chris, we, you're everybody'sfavorite man, and it's been
really nice to have you.
Come on today.
You are somebody who brings your A gameto everything you do in life and business.
You definitely brought yourA game to this podcast today.

(01:05:17):
Any final thoughts before I let you go,sir? No, just, like I said, I tell this
to people, how can you change your life?
Just be true to your work.
That's what I said.
Don't lie to yourself.
Whatever you say you're gonna do that.
If you decide to start trading againafter the weekend, why not today?
Or tomorrow morning, do it becauseotherwise something else comes in
between and you're not going to do it.
And once you build that habit for threeor four weeks, now it's normal for you.

(01:05:40):
And then everything you're going to,you're changing your life, you're changing
everything in your life for the better.
Why wouldn't you do it?
I don't understand it.
Stop popping pills for excitement.
Stop drinking to be happy orgive pleasure, make happiness.
And happiness comes from giving, giving,helping people, doing that kind of stuff.
You never do something good.

(01:06:01):
I feel bad about it lot later on.
You always feel good about it.
So how good is it tojust be there for others?
And I think once we all would dothat, treat people like yourself.
Like they treat their neighbor asthyself, is what they say, right?
But nobody's doing, we all know theline, but nobody's really doing it.
So I, I think that will dramaticallychange their life for the better.

(01:06:21):
Well, you've inspired me tobe a better person today, man.
I really appreciate this talk.
Thank you for coming on to beinga Class Act, El Guapo, Bas Rutten.
Ladies and gentlemen,have a fantastic day.

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