A.C. Lee and Parlay Pete Finale!!!! (We’ll be back, REBRAND Loading

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Allegedly, allegedly.
You know you got to throw inallegedly to save yourself from
the lawsuits.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Well, especially if we can't prove it.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Right, you know.
Stephen A and Marcellus Wileyare beefing on the internet too,
by the way.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Really.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Yeah, for Because you know, marcellus, he now pretty
much just critiques the media.
You know, like a lot of like.
I don't know how much of hiscontent you consume, but a lot
of.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
It's just like he's doing reaction videos yeah, it's
him at his in his house in whatappears to be like a room
upstairs and, um, it's just him.
I know he'll have guests orwhatever one.
Sometimes I don't watch himlike consistently, but when I've
seen his videos he's set upkind of like us yeah, pretty,

(00:52):
yeah, and that's what he's doing.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
So he commented on something about steven a steven
a like, then returned fire, buthe did the whole steven a thing.
Know, my producers told me notto do this and I ain't going to
put a name on it.
But but I just got to addressthis, even though you know I do
what I want.
And he just talked about, youknow, people who can't get a

(01:17):
deal.
So now they're podcasters andhe says something about Max and
he was talking about him and hisfriends, or he said his friend,
then he said his and then hisfriends, and then, like
Marcellus just responded to allof it because he said his coach
told him that if you don't putnames on it, you a bitch ass

(01:37):
nigga.
So Marcellus like leaned intothat.
He just kept saying my coachwill call you a bitch.
It was funny.
It was funny.
It was 25 minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
He was talking.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Kellerman, though Stephen A referenced, because
there was videos out theresaying that Stephen A was salty
about Max getting the boxing gig.
People took his response on theshow when it came up and tried
to make it seem like he had aproblem with it.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, but for the boxing gig yeah, something that
Max had been doing.
Max was good at that for a longtime Before he even became the
ESPN guy.
That was his bread and butter,and I don't and it's just the
internet sleuthing stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
You know how, like with the kid who got drafted by
Toronto and he was like fuck,and then they created a whole
narrative about what he meantwhen he was just like bro, I
just got drafted, like this shitjust happened.
I'm emoting because my lifelongdream just came true.

(02:51):
It really happened.
Yeah, y'all trying to be likeI'm mad that I'm going to
Toronto, I ain't never.
I've never met a man.
I've not met one man who saidToronto was bad.
I've never met a man.
I've not met one man who saidToronto was bad.
I know there's bad parts toToronto.

(03:12):
I can understand it's cold.
I can understand it may beexpensive, taxes, cool but I've
never heard a nigga complainabout going to Toronto.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
One of my favorite places and I'll put this out
there.
I still believe this to thisday.
There's attractive womeneverywhere.
Still, I think the baddestwomen per capita is Toronto,
Canada.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
You heard what Ludacris said.
I thought it was way too coldtill I whipped the Canada and
saw some beautiful Beautifulhoes.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Now I hit the Carabana every year in Toronto.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, hey you know, I don't think Ludacris gets
enough credit as a lyricist forhis ability to do songs like
that.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Absolutely.
I mean the BET Awards.
Once he did the Rap CityBasement thing.
I felt like that should havebeen an eye-opener for everybody
.
It was like, wow, he still gotit, ma the meatloaf.
When that nigga hit that line,I'm like, oh my God, he's so
good about throwing thepunchlines like that in there.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Should we play?

Speaker 2 (04:26):
it.
I thought it was beautiful.
We we did.
There is a song that I want youto play, but we will play it
before we begin culture hour.
It's a specific song inrelation to culture.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Bad, bad, bad, bad boy.
You make me feel so good.
Bad, bad, bad, bad boy.
You make me feel so good.
Hey, I got on the scale todayand I'm 175 pounds and my
stomach doesn't poke out and itjust feels absolutely amazing.
By the way, I just want tothrow that out there.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Oh, you should feel good.
I haven't weighed myself in aminute, but I feel like I'm
definitely, because I think wespoke about this obviously kind
of our goals and stuff and Ithink that, which I guess gosh.
Should we even make thatannouncement right now?

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Oh, this is our last episode.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, yeah, I call it the end of an era.
I do see that yeah.
Yeah, but we didn't really tellanybody that this is our last
episode.
We didn't promote it being ourlast episode.
We didn't even set it up to bea last episode, because it's not
like a real last episode.
But we're just about to go geta BBL, so we got to get low for
a minute so we can pop out whatour summertime is in the content

(05:37):
game.
It's football season.
This is the time you lay low incontent.
The summertime is where you laylow, and by lay low that means
we'll be laying low on the show.
But like Cardi B, at least Ican speak for myself and say I'm
back outside.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah and yeah.
So for those that want totranslate, want me to put what
Lee just said in layman's termsthis is the final AC parley pete
show.
It's not the final show thatwe're doing, it's just the final
show of the ac lee and parleypete era.
There will be a whole new namewhich we will get to um,

(06:20):
probably for closing, just toleave a little tea leave there.
But and and it'll probably helptoo with promo, a little bit
like cut as a clip.
But yeah, this is just thefinal show.
And TBD on the start for whatwe got cooking.

(06:41):
But yeah, it's going to be good.
Yeah, but here, just to giveyou a preview of the yeah, it's
going to be good.
Here, just to give you apreview of the song that I was
going to play that we need toplay before culture.
That way you know Songs of whatTell us.
That should be enough for youto know why I want you to play
that song before culture.
Yeah, well, that's whathappened, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (07:11):
it isn't that.
What fucking happened?
That might be your best jokeever is that not what happened?
Bad boy.
Ha, ha, ha, ha ha.
Can't stop, won't stop, niggaEgg.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Break his neck, he bite.
But even better when we startdancing.
Uh-uh, uh-uh, what we do.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
We hurt their feelings.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Right, I don't know, it's just kind of like the
perfect, like I don't know, it'sa perfect blend for for him
specifically.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
So you know we had to beat his ass, all right, that
might be one of the the the bestmusic videos that are staple
Atlanta, atlanta suburb musicvideos from our era With no
money put into it.
Yes, some niggas in some baggyjeans, some thermals and some

(08:17):
puffy jackets just dancing andsome fittings yeah, fresh as
hell.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Nigga had the fucking like Urban Outfitter glasses on
.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, yeah, damn, we washed up man.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, but we're still winning.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
All right man Speaking of washed up man, the
Jets, not the Jets thePittsburgh Steelers.
They made some moves.
Arthur Smith got his rocks off.
They traded essentially MikaFitzpatrick and some draft picks
that we don't really care aboutfor Johnnie Smith and Jalen

(09:06):
Ramsey.
Marley Pete react.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Winner winner Mahi dinner.
I mean I thought the Steelerswon the trade.
Jalen Ramsey's not cooked.
Jonu Smith's coming out withhis best season as a pro.
Mika Fitzpatrick good safety,obviously.
Smith's coming out with hisbest season as a pro Minkah
Fitzpatrick good safety,obviously.
But if you can get two guys forone and Pittsburgh kind of has

(09:31):
a little bit of a void at widereceiver two anyways.
So now you've got two tightends which again Arthur Smith,
he's a tight end freak.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
No, you've got three tight ends.
You forgot about Darnell.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, darnell, but you know yes.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Okay, yes, got three tight ends.
You forgot about darnell.
Yeah, darnell, but you know,yes, yeah, okay, yes, hey,
arthur, he's probably the besttight end three in the nfl.
How about that?

Speaker 2 (09:50):
and arthur loves tight end three yeah, especially
on the goal line, on the thirdand goal, and he knows he's got
johnny out there, he's got firemovement.
You know they're not gonnawonder is aaron rogers gonna
throw the ball?
They're like which one of thesetight ends is gonna throw it.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Who's out there?
He's got fire movement.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
You know they're not going to wonder is Aaron Rodgers
going to throw the ball?
They're like which one of thesetight ends is going to throw it
, who's running the route, andwhich one's going to be there
just to block.
Because if you remember thatplay, I was at that game, it was
the Titans game and I swear,because it was on kind of closer
to the side that I was sittingon, I swear that play was ran as

(10:30):
if everybody else on the playwas blocking and that was the
only route.
Basically, that was the onlyplay.
There was no second read.
That was the only read and Ijust couldn't fucking believe it
Because it was like third downwhen they ran it and we were on,
like man, we might have been onlike the five or the six, like

(10:51):
I mean it was.
You probably were gonna pass it.
But the thought would be, youknow, desmond Ritter was still
in the game at that point, theyhadn't benched him yet, for
because Heineke started thesecond half, that was when they
made the move and it was justlike, why, like, what?
Why, like, like, like.
Why are we setting up a playfor Johnny Smith to throw the
ball to?

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Not Kyle Pitts.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Mikel.
Damn, what was that dude's name?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Not Kyle.
Pitts was his name, not Kyle.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Pitts right, we're getting a tight end to throw the
ball to another tight end, andthis is supposed to be
innovative stuff, like we'resupposed to score.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
And you know that roster also has six, with five
Drake London on it.
You know NFL top 100 shout out.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Drake, london.
I mean, fuck, give me a.
I mean I'll take even a littlealong the days.
The key is type, like you know,under do I do know, do
something.
Do something other than that?
Give it to.
We have B John.
That was B John's rookie year.
Yeah, give it to B John.
I mean, can we do somethingother than that?

(11:57):
I still like the move, thoughfor Pittsburgh.
I thought that they won thetrade.
I have to imagine they'removing Ramsey to safety anyways,
like that's what's going tohappen.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Safety and spot.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
He played a little safety.
I thought at Florida State.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah, and then when he played for the Rams he played
star, which is the slot runsupport type nigga.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
you know what I mean yeah, and so I like the deal for
Pittsburgh should we call MrTurner and see how he feels
about it.
I mean we can it's the lastshow.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Why not call Julian?
We can see if he answers.
You know, calling Julian it'salways scary.
Why not call Julian?
Yeah, we can See if he answers,you know.
You know, calling Julian isalways scary when you call him
live.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Well, because you don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
I don't know what he's going to say.
Ah, giving up the josh holseytreatment could be some

(13:21):
salacious sex going on.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
I mean we don't know.
But either way, pittsburgh, Ithought, won the trade and I
think even from his perspectiveas a fan, you can't feel like
you got worse because of thetrade.
You improved certainly one sideof the ball and if you did fall
off on the other side, youdidn't fall off by much Like,

(13:47):
not that much Like.
So I like the deal.
I think that again it addsanother weapon for Arthur Smith,
because I think Justice said itbest actually in the group, you
know, this year, if it don'twork out anyways, arthur Smith,
he's got that inheritance check.
That's hitting, so like hedoesn't really have to do this

(14:07):
anymore.
This is his last shot at doingit big anyways.
Yeah, because he probablydoesn't get another head
coaching gig ever again.
And in Pittsburgh this I mean Idon't think that Mike Tomlin
gets fired.
But again, if they fall flat ontheir face and they actually
don't do well this year, I couldsee it just being a clean house

(14:28):
scenario, because Aaron.
Rodgers isn't coming back.
He's pretty much sounded off onthe idea that this is it.
It makes sense that this is itfor him.
If this is it and they don't dowell, they can kind of just
it's a clean slate.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Outside of DK Metcalf .
They can pretty much clean upeverywhere, yeah, and I kind of
think that's why they're Becausethey didn't pay TJ.
Yeah, yeah, hold on.
Does it make sense for us topay you $40 million?
No, you deserve $40 million.
You deserve to be the highestpaid non-quarterback.
You deserve to be the highestpaid, not, you know, highest
paid non-quarterback.
You deserve to be that, butdoes it make sense for me to pay

(15:12):
you for that?
In the in, where we are in inour team building, you know?

Speaker 2 (15:20):
and he's probably what tj's 30, he's probably 31,
like he's like our age, right.
So how old is TJ?

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Let's pull that up.
How old is TJ Watt?

Speaker 2 (15:35):
TJ Watt is 30 years old.
He'll be 31 in October, so he's31.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
And I don't want to pay you that much at that age.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Well, if we give you a five-year deal, four-year deal
, and you're getting 40 a yearand we know, if things go south
we'll have to trade you nextoffseason, there'll be plenty of
people that will probably wantyou like serious contenders.
But serious contenders, don'tgive up serious shit to get you.
We'd be lucky to probably get aone for you, being a

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32-year-old pass rusher Like wemight be able to get a one, and
it won't even be a one that year, it'll be a one two years from
now.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
I'd probably move him .
I'd move him.
I think you could get two onesfor TJ Watt.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Today.
But if you pay him then peopleare going to be like you're
stuck with the contract.
You'll take what we give you.
We know he's valuable, but Ijust don't see him being worth
two ones next year.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
If you pay him, though, if you pay him, though,
if you pay him and you pay himbefore Micah and there's another
pass, rusher, who's about toget paid If you can get him paid
early, you could still flip himin a year and get good value,

(17:06):
because there's people this yearwho are in front of him to get
paid, and then you got nextyear's offseason of people who
are going to get paid and goingto jump that, so then his number
is smaller.
But if you move him, then haveto pay him.
You're going to give back lessbecause it's like, hey, I still

(17:28):
got to pay this guy, you're noteven paying him.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
You can front load it .

Speaker 1 (17:33):
I guess maybe that could help it out too, yeah, If
I did re-sign him, I would frontload it, so he's tradable.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Then the cap hit yeah you, once you cut them, they
won't be so much dead money.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah, but like for any team that is on the back end
of the career, you can stillcut them and like it won't like
kill you Like or Pittsburghcould say hey, man, you're a
Pittsburgh great and we don'tcare what you're going to be
here, no matter what where weare in our, in our team building
.
We're going to pay you to stayhere and there's absolutely
nothing wrong with that.
But I'm not a PittsburghSteelers fan to care.

(18:12):
But I, but I would understandit.
It's like the to bring it tothe Falcons.
It's like the Matt Ryan andJulio deals.
When they when when they signedme, especially that Matt Ryan
deal, I did not expect Matt Ryanto live up to that entire
contract, but you had to pay himwhen you did.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, you had no choice.
He came off an MVP season,super Bowl, nfc champion, super
Bowl runner-up.
He had a new stadium coming thenext year, like that was what
the market bear, and obviouslywithin and it gets to your point
of paying him within two years,matt was like 10th highest paid

(18:51):
quarterback, like there werelike nine other people that
ended up making more money thanhim anyway.
So, yeah, so it worked out fromthat perspective and we were
still able to salvage it and wegot a second round picked out of
that deal with the Colts.
Yeah it was a good trade and wegot a third for Julio, which was

(19:14):
even crazier yo that nigga beenmissing for years.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah, it was on and off with him and he didn't do
shit in Tennessee, the one.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
He probably did more for Philly and Tampa than he did
for Tennessee.
Yeah, it was on and off withhim and he didn't do shit in
Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Hell, he probably did more for Philly and Tampa than
he did for Tennessee.
Didn't he have like one bigplay in Tampa or something?

Speaker 2 (19:36):
It was like whoa.
Yeah, I feel like I rememberwhat you're talking about.
I know he scored a touchdownbecause Josh just wouldn't shut
the fuck up about it.
He scored a touchdown in Philly, where, in the 80s- when they
were like 80?

Speaker 1 (19:49):
That shit was disgusting seeing Julio in an 80
.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah, just I mean, add it to the Shaq 33 Cleveland
and Shaq 36 Celtics like jersey,or a Patrick Ewing Orlando
Magic 6.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Hey journeyman, wide receiver Julio Jones.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
And that's how you know it's pretty bad.
I mean niggas.
He didn't even get the respectto get to keep his number.
But you know it's actually kindof good because he didn't wear
11 anywhere but here, yeah hedidn't wear it about, because
even AJ Brown– I think AJ Brownhad said he was okay with giving
up 11-4 in Tennessee becauseobviously that's like his
favorite player, but like he waslike.

(20:35):
No, I'll just do two Like.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
You know, as Falcons fans, what really sucks is that
we've had some of the bestfavorite players on our team and
we just don't have a Super Bowl.
Like you think about Julio,that's nigga's favorite player.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, not just in Atlanta.
Like around the league, thereare people that are like man.
Yeah, julio.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Mike Vick.
Obviously yeah, mike.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Vick Prime Prime yeah .

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Now, now, I don't think there were many people
like besides you who, like, hadmatt ryan as, like, their
favorite player.
I don't think I feel like mattryan got a lot of respect around
the league yes, yes, yes, but Idon't think he was like a
inspirational figure for like ayoung nigga coming up trying to
play quarterback.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
For sure, nah, no doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
That's not his game.
Yeah, no, it's just, it's astyle.
It's a style thing Like hedidn't win enough.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
If Matt Ryan Matt Ryan, he wasn't Peyton Manning,
but because obviously he's atraditional drop back.
Same with Tom Brady.
There were better versions ofwhat he did, stylistically
anyway, so it's like yeah, so hewas never going to be in that
conversation, but I'll tell youhe's he's, he's, he's in.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
if we're doing like a build, like on 2K, right, he
might be the Tom Brady build,but he played against Tom Brady,
so it's like like Tom Brady hasa better arm than Matt Ryan.
I agree, yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
I mean Matt Ryan had a BB gun.
Let's not disrespect him thatbad.
His first pass ever was a deeppass for a touchdown.
No, he didn't throw it 60 yardsinto the end zone, but he threw
it about 50 yards, hit him instride and nobody was on him
Touchdown.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
No, his arm is good enough to make all the throws
required of an NFL quarterback.
Don't get it twisted when hethrows the deep ball.
He has to time his right.
Yes, Because he may can get it70, but it's a lollipop if he

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throws it 70.
You know how Aaron is different.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
No, he is.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
That's why they have the.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Julio interception highlight package because
sometimes he'd be throwing itdeep and it could fall short.
He could overthrow it even insome cases.
Or maybe the route, like theexpectation was, the ball is
here but, for whatever reason,went over and then the safety is
there.
But you have that Juliotackling package because of it,

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because typically those weredeep balls, those weren't.
Matt threw a 15-yard pass andthen Julio hawks him.
It wasn't that.
It was Julio saying damn, I'mnot going to get this ball, let
me hit this nigga.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Do you remember what it was like being young and
watching Julio, like in Alabama,and you're like a kid, Like
we're in high school.
You know what I mean.
And you're like oh, this niggaJulio is fine.
You know what I mean and you'relike oh, this nigga Julio is
fine.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
You know what's crazy .
I like AJ Green more though Idid too.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Only because I was a Georgia fan and I wanted us to
draft AJ Green instead of Julio.
Only because I was a Georgiafan.
But then, once Julio became aFalcon, I tried to hold on to
the AJ Green love, because AJGreen was still five when he was
five.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
We made the right choice, and not just because we
see it, but Julio was the betterplayer.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
I mean he ran sub-fo-fo with a broke foot.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
His issue was this it was that, but because he played
at Alabama, they were runningthe ball and he didn't have a
true.
I mean, I'm not trying to befucking funny.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
AJ McCarron was throwing the ball.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
What did I say?

Speaker 1 (24:36):
No, no, nothing you said.
You were just talking aboutissues with Julio.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Well, yeah, he definitely.
He has uh share of things offthe field, but um, and it's none
of my business, I, you know, II ran into him a couple of times
, but um, nonetheless, um, ajgreen, aj green had matt Matt
Stafford throwing him the ball.
Yeah, I know, it was shittylike that last year, though it

(25:08):
was like Joe Teresinsky or itwas Cox or somebody.
I forgot who the fuck was.
The quarterback Georgia at thatpoint.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
It wasn't Aaron Murray.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
He didn't have Aaron Murray yet.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
No, Did he get?
Was it Joe Teresinsky the third?

Speaker 2 (25:21):
That's who I'm thinking.
It could have been Cox too.
Cox was there, Because remember, that's who they said.
Cox was the one that wassleeping with Stafford.
Well, had banged Stafford'swife.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
At least the way she made it sound allegedly.
What's the difference betweenCox and Cheroshinsky, or
whatever it?

Speaker 2 (25:39):
could have been Hudson Mason too.
I don't even remember.
Well, look here even HudsonMason too.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
I don't even remember , bro.
Look here the Matt Stafford toAaron Murray.
Those years in between them, Idon't remember.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Well, it was a lot of eight and five ball.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
I mean, it was Mark Rick, special One of those years
we went six and six.
Let's be honest Mark Rick was a10 and three guy at Georgia,
but he's really an eight andfive guy at heart.
That's really who he is.
He's an eight and five ballcoach.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
You know, here's the issue too.
Eight and five in college islike eight and eight in the NFL.
It's really.
It's Jeff Fishery is what it is.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
But the difference between Kirby and Mark Rick,
right, we never truly thought wewere contenders with Mark Rick,
even when we had a roster thatwas contending that game With
Kirby Number one to start theyear.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
I remember, but Kirby On the front of Sports
Illustrated.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
It's him, no, sean AJ .
But you know what, Kirby?
We just wake up in the morningas Georgia fans and say hey,
we're contenders.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
There's not a game that they go into that you say
they're losing.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
I mean, we hate our quarterback situation right now.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
I hope that that's not where we're at, though.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
I hope we're not in that Hudson.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Mason Joe Teresanski Cox era potentially or at least
a one-year filler in between.
I hope that that's not the caseMe neither.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Even last year, the year before, we did not like our
quarterback situation and we'relike we're still contending for
a national championship.
And you know what?
The most important position?
We don't like this guy.
We we never had that with markrick, like matt stafford, number
one overall pick, hall of fame,talent, and I'm not saying he
going to get in the Hall of Famebecause he doesn't have the

(27:47):
accolades.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
He just doesn't.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Hall very good no doubt.
Yeah, but he's a Hall of Fametalent and he's a guy that the
Hall of Fame guys might say,yeah, no, he was better than me,
he just in Detroit, his wholefucking career.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
He certainly.
I tell you what the bankaccount says.
He's a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
He always got paid like more.
And then the eye test of likeit's funny how, when Pat Mahomes
started doing stuff and thenthey started showing that
Matthew Stafford had been doingit but he was in Detroit Nobody
cared.
It's like, oh, Matt Stafford'sbeen throwing no-look passes.
I'm a Georgia fan, I know MattStafford has a hose.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Pause.
Wow, that was insane.
That was insane.
I think it's because you couldhave used anything and you said
hose.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
But as a former baseball player, when you're
talking about a guy having a bigarm in the baseball community,
that used to be what you wouldsay like yo, that motherfucker
got a hose.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Right and we're not talking about baseball one way
or another, no, but I'm justsaying like I get where you're
getting it from.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
But I know that, you know why people say it.
But in this new age, if we haveto pause everything, even
though, like hey, I'm not gay Idon't have a problem with gay
people, by the way, I it's just,it's just not for me.
Some people sit down when theyuse the bathroom.

(29:28):
Some people stand up when theyuse the bathroom.
No beef.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Who comes?
Who can he Telling myself, man,he definitely could throw the
ball.
There's no doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
He threw the ball very well To have Matthew
Stafford, aj Green and NoSeanMarino on your team.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
It's like Muhammad Massaquah, too, was being wide
receiver too, which was he?
Was a good wide receiver too,in college, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
He was a third-round pick.
He had a good run in Cleveland.
He caught touchdowns.
He was productive.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
He just played for Cleveland.
I mean like that Cleveland,that Cleveland Browns team, Like
Derrick Anderson, was theirhope at that time, Like Well, I
mean, who's their hope now?

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Ken Pickett, Deshaun Watson, Dylan Gabriel, Shadurah
Sanders.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
They're just look at this point.
No, I know I mean Stefanski'splaying a game of musical chairs
.
All right, you know, howeverloud the boos get, that's when.
Once the boos, he knows when tostop.
Once the boos get to a certainpoint, that's when they stop,
and whoever's not sitting in thechair, that's who gets in.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Stefanski is playing the smart game.
He's going to get his ass fired.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
And he'll have a robust market.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Right, because he can't resign, he can't not
accept the contract extension.
He's just going to have to.
Just, you know what I got toget out of this shit show?
And Andrew Barry's probablylike, hey, man, take me with you
.
Andrew Barry's probably like,hey, man, take me with you.

(31:08):
I mean because, if you thinkabout it, stefanski and Andrew
Barry have actually done apretty good job of building up
that roster.
You know, like if DeshaunWatson was good, if he was
Houston Deshaun Watson, we'd belike I don't know who's going to
win the AFC North, I'm going topick Baltimore, but if

(31:30):
Baltimore is fourth and they'renine and eight, I'm not shocked,
because this division is agauntlet.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Well, and look at it this way you hate to look ahead,
but I just had to look at it.
Let's say he gets fired.
What jobs are possibly going tobe open next year?
Falcons, oh, yeah, yeah, itcould be honestly, depending on
how bad it is.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Because if it's bad, the GM is fired, and then if the
GM is fired, the coach ispractically fired, even if he's
not fired, which means exactlythe job becomes open.
If you can like, you then wouldfire raw.
You're early because, oh, I canget stefanski.
He wants to come here.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
These are the jobs that'll be potentially open san
francisco, maybe new york.
Johns possibly san fran youthink they'd move off kyle
people kept trying to.
I think that they could.
If it's bad, if they go six and11, I could see it.
Miami Dolphins that's one thatcould probably be open.

(32:33):
I know that this is a long, Iknow that a lot of people might
not like it, but the Baltimorejob could potentially be open.
I mean it could.
That job could get open.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
The Bengals job could be open.
Oh yeah, make sure you say theBengals job.
I mean, I think, zach Taylor Irarely call for people to get
fired, but because he's mademillions of dollars and you know
what, we've got to stop doingthis.
We've actually got to stopsaying we don't call for coaches
to get fired because they haveguaranteed contracts so they

(33:13):
still get paid, so fuck them ifthey get fired, like no, no, if
you suck, you should get fired.
And I should be able to saythat.
And I shouldn't say, oh, Idon't like to call for someone's
job, because I'm not actuallytaking food off your table when
I say you should get fired.
And if you're an NFL head coachand you get fired, you can

(33:33):
always be a coordinator or aposition coach for the rest of
your life.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Or you could do what Cliff did.
They said Cliff bought aone-way ticket to Thailand once
he got fired and then he gotrefreshed for a year.
Look at him.
He was coordinator of the yearlast year in the NFL I mean so,
yo and he had an opportunity tobe another head, to be a head

(33:58):
coach again, and he just didn'twant to because he didn't want
to live in New.
Orleans, which I'm not mad athim.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, all right,it wasn't that he didn't want to
live in New Orleans, he didn'twant to coach that shitty team,
because then he knew he'd getfired again eventually.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
I mean yeah.
He looked at their cap sheetand said ooh.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
And then he's like who's the quarterback?
Again, he's like oh, he's like,I tell you what you guys suck
enough and you get Arch Manningnext year.
I'll think about it.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Hey, how are you?
Colt's job could be open too.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
by the way, that's another one I'm looking at.
That job could be open too.
I mean, that's not a popularjob, but you have a bunch of
sisters running yourorganization.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Question for you, and this is going to be fucked up.
I'm just going to put it outthere.
Who cares?

Speaker 2 (34:47):
I expect nothing less .

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yeah, does Kellen Moore look like he could have
been the main star of theNetflix show Atypical.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
I don't know the Netflix show Atypical, so I'd
have to see what it's about.
Give me a second.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Look it up real quick and then it's going to help you
understand what I'm saying andthen answer that question.
Oh, you're an asshole.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
I don't even have to look at it.
They have an overview once youtype in a show and the first
sentence tells me everything Ineed to know.
So you want to know what helooks like.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
What does he look like?
I'm not accusing him of it, andthere's nothing wrong with it.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Well, he was a quarterback.
I mean, think about it.
Hell, he beat Georgia.
He beat Mark Rick at theGeorgia Dome.
We were out there that day.
That game right or the lsu gamewhich game.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
did we tell you we went to both?
Yeah, we tailgated, lsu wentwhen, uh, honey badger dropped
the ball before he got in theend zone and we lost, and under
aaron murray god I'm sorry,aaron murray is the best georgia
quarterback.
I don't care.
No, I know I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah, come on, you know what?
Let me change it.
He looked my favorite New KungFu Kenny.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
He looked the best but like I know he wasn't better
than Matt Stafford and hedidn't produce more than Stetson
.
I'll take him over Stafford'stime.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
I'll take his time over Stafford's time, but we're
not going to take him overStetson.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
No, I know he deserved what.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Stetson got, but Stetson put up the numbers.
You're acting like Stetsondidn't put up numbers.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
I know, but I'm just saying I feel like real Georgia
fans just loved Aaron Murray somuch and felt like he deserved
like he.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
He did what he needed to do to win a natty and he
didn't like those might havebeen some of the favorite
georgia teams even I know thenational championship teams are
that but those teams were likefavorites, like because we
didn't love because, remember,dog, we didn't love Stetson.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Going into the Natty year, we're like I don't know if
we can win a Natty with Stetson.
Yeah, we never felt that wayabout Aaron Murray.
Once he got the job, we're likeno, no, aaron Murray, that's my
nigga.
I don't think he's going to bea pro.
The Aaron.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Murray era was like being the spurs against the
warriors.
Like it's like oh, we know it'sgonna come down to us in bama,
like we just know it, likethat's what it's gonna come down
to.
They're they're the better team, but we feel like we can beat
them on any given night too andfor and during the aaron murray,

(37:43):
we had the best quarterback.
Yeah, bama had Saban and.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Kirby, that was the difference.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
And Kirby Right Kirby was on the sideline too.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
And we didn't have the portal wide open, so Saban
could stash a five-star forthree years and bury that nigga
deep into the depth chart.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
That's what he was telling them, though he was
telling them?
Do we tell you the story ofIsaac, the guy that Justin went
to high school with that NickSaban?

Speaker 1 (38:18):
You have told me that story and I think you've shared
it on the show, but I wouldlike for you to share it again
because I think it's somethingthat's a good story We've been
talking about it.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Okay, isaac Rochelle got a pretty big social media
presence these days.
Hopefully we can make him afriend of the new show.
I'm definitely going to reachout to him.
But nonetheless, isaac,four-star state champion for
Eagles Land and ChristianAcademy and McDonough he's the
best player on, again, a statechampionship team, georgia

(38:49):
big-time recruiting grounds.
So he eventually ends up goingto Notre Dame, but in the
process, just like any otherfour or five-star, all these
coaches kiss your ass.
Well, they come in to kiss yourass a little bit because they
want you to come to their school.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
They might suck your dick too, yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Well, and especially the coach that ended up getting
him, brian Kelly.
The way I see he moves around,I mean he looks like he'll do
anything.
You know he's like niggastwerking on you a little bit.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
He's an Emanuacho type.
The mission is the mission.
I'll do whatever it takes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Yeah, joy, nonetheless All right.
So anyways, he has Hold on, didyou?

Speaker 1 (39:34):
ask Real quick.
You didn't answer my question.
Do you think that Kellen Moorecould have been an atypical?

Speaker 2 (39:42):
If you look at him yeah, but because we know his
past, it's like he's a stud atfucking Boise State.
Yeah, I just needed to makesure he looks like it.
Yes, he looks like it.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
That's all I needed to validate myself and my
feelings.
Look, isaac has, I'm justtrying to explore the connection
between Kellen Moore and theUnited and the New Orleans
Saints.
I'll explore that connection,their schedule really between
Kellen Moore and the New OrleansSaints.
That'll explore that connection.
I want to close on that one.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Their schedule release sucked too.
I don't know if you saw it, butanyways, isaac gets a visit
from Nick Saban.
Nick Saban comes in, he shakeshis hand, and this was the first
one, first red flag here.
He apparently shook his handtoo firmly and he said don't
ever shake my hand like thatagain.
Now that's some nick say.

(40:28):
Now nick saban can say thatshit to anybody.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
He could say that, yeah, it doesn't matter no, no,
no, like arch manning, and hecould have said it to you no,
nick's nick, nick saban.
What nick saban's gonna do ishe's gonna big dick you in this
conversation at some point intime well, and that's initially
how it starts.
I mean, a handshake is howthings start oh yeah, if I don't
, if I don't respect a man andor if I think a man soft and he

(40:52):
like gives me like the dap handfor a handshake, not like we
dapping up.
He's shaking my hand like it'sa dap yeah nigga, I'm about to
crush your little punk-ass hands.
No, you're not a man.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
You're shaking my hand with fingers and not a hand
.
You're not even shaking my hand, you're giving me fingers.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Yeah, that's crazy, you're giving me fingers.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
That's what it is.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
But hey, do you also when you go to the bathroom, do
you sit down?

Speaker 2 (41:28):
You don't know what a urinal is do you?

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Do you see five open urinals and still go to the
stall?
Do you pull your pants all theway down when you go to the
bathroom and lock the stall door?
If I piss in the stall, I'm notlocking the door.
I might not even close it likeI'm just walking in there.
I'm just pissing well, orbetter.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yet let me guess, you pour your orange juice with
your, with your champagne.
You have your orange juice in aseparate cup, don't you?

Speaker 1 (42:00):
because you don't want them to mix no, I'll put a
drop of orange juice in there,but I'm not a mimosa guy, though
, period.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Yeah, but I'm using it as an example of a bitch type
of stuff.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
No, he's the type of nigga that says hey, let's go
get mimosas, nigga, what we cango to brunch, and if they got
bottomless, we'll get it, whilealso still buying shots in
between because we're men.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
We gotta set ourselves up to go back out to
San Diego too, by the way.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
We need to do that.
But you know me, going to SanDiego is complicated.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
You can turn it into a full trip, though.
That's the thing.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
What if I don't want to?
That's the hard conversationthat I don't want to have on the
podcast.
What if I wanted to go to SanDiego?

Speaker 2 (42:51):
If you've got five days and you can set it up to
where Friday, saturday I'm here,and then Sunday, monday,
tuesday I'm there, and then youcome home.
It works out.
You can make that work.
Yeah, I'd have to do it thatway because yeah, you may get to
where you're with us duringthat weekend, but for that week,

(43:12):
because she's not in school yet.
So it's like, yeah, and itactually sets up to be you and
her as opposed to you three.
Oh yeah, Because I'm sure thatshe'll be working or something.
Yeah, I mean you can get dinnerand stuff together still, but
like Come on, man, you know whatdinner leads to.

(43:36):
Well, maybe there's nothingwrong with that.
Anyways, shakes his hand, saysdon't you ever do that again?
I guess he shook his hand toofirmly.
And then the next thing youknow, they're sitting there and
he's telling them about.
You know, we're going to offeryou, but basically you're going
to play bench for three yearsand by your senior year you

(44:00):
might start, but we'll make sureyou're in the rotation.
Now he's a four-star, he's adefensive end.
So, like, obviously competitiveEverything at Bama I'm sure is
competitive.
It doesn't matter what positionit is.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
I also need to make sure you throw in there.
He made it to the league too,by the way.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Yeah, isaac played in the NFL for seven or eight
years, so he had a, for allintent and purpose, a successful
career because he was theseventh-round pick that played
for that home.
A lot of those guys flame outafter a year.
So he was able to play formultiple franchises, which is
pretty cool.
But he played his whole rookiecontract out and got a raise.

(44:42):
When he went to Indy he got araise.
It was a oney Like.
He got a raise.
It was a one-year deal but hemade, I think, as much money in
that one-year deal as he did hisentire rookie deal.
So, like it worked, it workedout for him.
But he told him you're going tosit on the bench for three
years.
And that's just the way thatBama was funneling those guys
through to where Georgiawouldn't have a chance Cause

(45:04):
it's like, oh, they got a newguy at this position.
It's like, yeah, but he was afucking four or five star four
years ago and he's been fuckingweight training like an NFL
player for for three years andhe might've even played a little
last year.
So it's not like he don't.
He didn't forget how to play,still went up against
first-round talent and practicedevery day on the scout team.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Yeah, yeah, like honestly.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Football factory.
Oh and, by the way, kirby Smartwas telling them, boys, what to
do.
At the time, nick was the headhoncho, but Kirby was still
telling motherfuckers what to do.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
You know, think about it.
Being a backup at Alabama couldbe better than being a starter
at Arizona.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
State.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
I'm just saying you could be a no-shit starter,
four-year starter at ArizonaState and get drafted.
But nah, that backup at Bamawho may never see the field, is
a better player than you.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Look at, uh, look at, uh.
Well, I was going to just dosome of my recent cam.
Scatterboo had all thosenumbers and stuff, the Arizona
state, and he only was there fora year Cause he went to
Sacramento state before he wasthere.
But imagine if a guy like thathad went to Georgia.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Hey, real quick, real quick question Doesn't
Sacramento State sound like aschool that would have a white
running back?

Speaker 2 (46:35):
It did, yeah, it did I mean so it did yeah.
Hey, why are you acting likeGeorgia doesn't have a white
running back?

Speaker 1 (46:45):
and I was about to say jones, I was about to bring
it up and how disgusting itlooks for georgia to have a
white running back.
It just doesn't look right.
And I'm not against whiterunning backs.
Shout out to cmc.
You know payton hillis, all theguys.
But like payton hillis atarkansas, that looked right.
Uh, cmc at Stanford, thatlooked right.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Well, they were different.
Cash Jones at Georgia.
He's a walk-on.
Why is he on the roster?
He scored.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
He scored a few times last year, but Georgia, georgia
, football is a place where I'msorry, the white walk on running
back.
We're talking about long shotof long shots, and we know his
fucking name.
That's not supposed to happenat.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Georgia.
It helps that his name is cooltoo.
His name is Cash Jones.
His first name is Cash.
Think about that shit.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Yeah, he actually sounds like he mixed.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Well, with the last name, like Jones, yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Cash Jones, you sound like a mixed kid in the hood.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Anytime touchdown was plus 500, week one against
Clemson.
I was at the tailgate that day,uh, with jared shots to jared,
by the way.
But um was there and literallyeverybody was asking me for the,
the prop bet, and I literallytold them all to bet cash, jones

(48:21):
and the reason I did it.
If you remember, etienne wassuspended.
He didn't play in that game.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Shout out to Hastings S.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
And there was another guy.
Yeah, there was another guythat worked with the team
somehow and he was like, yeah,he was getting rest.
And I was like they're going tobeat Clemson so bad.
I was like man, I said I put iton Cash Jones.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
You know Clemson almost didn't make the playoffs
because of how bad we beat them.
But that was a good look.
I mean, I know they won the ACCand all of that stuff so they
had to get in.
But like if SMU won that game,clemson wasn't getting in just
because we donkey-fucked them.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Yeah, no, they scored three points and I think that
they only picked up on threedifferent drives that whole game
.
They got a first down.
But, they didn't get.
They punted like almost.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
It was bad.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Yeah, it was bad.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Yeah, it was bad, but hey, Parley Pete, we spent like
an hour talking and we've got alot of NBA to get to.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Yeah we haven't even actually talked about anything
in reality?

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Oh, we haven't.
So you know, I'm trying to herdcats here.
Well, no, I'm not herding cats,I'm herding dogs, because there
ain't no in between my legs.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Yes, new Kung Fu Kenny.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
No, that wasn't new Kung Fu Kenny.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
No, I know it wasn't a pause moment.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
No man.
Look you set yourself up tohurt.
You say that there is none.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
I get it.
You say that there is none.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
I get it I got to introduce you to Kung Fu, kenny.
Sure, yeah, well.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
It'd be fucked up if I, when I met him, he'd be like
hey, this is Cousin Kenny.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Not Cousin.
I said Kung Fu Kenny, he's notmy cousin.
Oh wrong one, my bad, this isKenny.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Not cousin.
I said Kung Fu Kenny.
Oh, wrong one.
My bad, this is Kenny.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Yeah, but here's the crazy thing about this right
People don't know who Kung FuKenny is, and we don't want you
to give out something that maymake it work.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Friends of the program, and then everybody puts
the dots together.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah .
You know we don't want that,because I'm I'm being like what
Marcellus Wiley's coach wouldsay is I'm a bitch ass, nigga
Cause I'm not putting a name onit.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Well, what if I was like I shook his hand, I was
like I wouldn't do that either,but I wouldn't do that.
I wouldn't do that.
Yeah, I'd like to meet him.
I'd like to meet him, Put aface with the name.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
I mean, yeah, but you don't.
You know, Everybody doesn'tneed to be met.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Well, you know who else doesn't want to meet who.
Well, you know who else doesn'twant to meet who Jaron Jackson,
his toe, and the Grizzliesfront office, Because, boy, I
know he's not the person.
We want to start off with theNBA, but can you imagine

(51:41):
somebody getting signed to a$240 million contract and then
the very next day they guessbreak their toe?
They said it was like turf toe.
It's weird and oh man that shitnow they said they're going to
reassess him in 16 weeks.
It's like nigga, what that'slike.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
4 months, that's okay , that's a bit messed up well,
it had to have been.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
That's the point.
But it's like so, hold on.
So he's definitely missing thestar of the year if you're
talking about.
We're gonna reassess it in 16weeks.
Not, he should be cleared insix.
No, we're gonna reassess it.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Then we're gonna look back at it they haven't seen
jaron since his exit interviewand he told him hey, send, send
a contract over what doc yousigned.
Yeah, he signed that.
Bad boy.
I ain't thirst toast.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Well, he saw they traded Bain.
They let Ken R go.
They ain't upgrade that team.
I mean KCP's a size, he's anupgrade, he fits that grit type
shit and he's nice next to Ja,in a sense of he's a defender.
I mean he's a 3 and D guy butlike the re-sign of Aldama, oh

(53:01):
okay, I mean he was solid for myfantasy team.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
I'll give him that.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
But like.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Don't you think they have Edie?

Speaker 2 (53:09):
I mean Edie's, tall as fuck.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
but but don't you think Memphis deserves the
benefit of the doubt?

Speaker 2 (53:16):
No, I think they should move to Nashville.
That's what I think.
I don't think Memphis deservesit.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
I think the franchise should move to Nashville as
well, and I'm not sorry aboutthat.
So for all the Memphisindustries that are tied to the
Grizzlies DMG, yeah, I don'tcare about y'all.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Glow.
Hey Gotti.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Who else is part?

Speaker 2 (53:40):
of that label.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Moneybag Yo Black, youngstown.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
That nigga's a 2019 fucking meme.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
That's all he was.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
I can't name any records.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Nah, that booty, that big old booty, that's like 2019
, though Woo-hoo, that's it, ohyeah.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
I guess you got the one he's got one with money or
the tape that moneybag yo theydid.
They, I guess they did a tapetogether because they're
standing next to each other, butit's like moneybag yo song.
He's not on it.
I don't even think.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
I don't think black youngster was signed to the
label to be an artist let metell you, yo god, he is eating
off of glorilla.
That's what that was doing Imean I'd eat off of gloria too.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Man, let me tell you hey, you need everything off hey
now, hey now, hey now hey, nowsay now hey, now say now one of
the, honestly one of the peoplethat everybody can root for
lorilla yeah she's very likable,like group like because her
music's good.

(54:53):
It actually is good and likeeverything about it she seems
genuine, it just seems like alegit person and we saw what she
looked like and now We've seenthe glow up.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Yeah, for real.
For real, though, and like it'sone that you can relate with,
and I think, because you seeGlorilla say stuff that's not
media trained that you go.
Oh, like she's a real person,like nothing about Lotto.
The way she projects herself,tells me she's a real person.
Nothing about Lotto.
The way she projects herself,tells me she's a good hank and

(55:28):
she may be a great hank.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Did we tell you we ran into her once?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, andnobody noticed her.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Yeah, but like.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
He's like that's Mulatto.
I was like nigga.
I don't know any of her music.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
I'm a real ass, real ass bitch from the south, but
you think about it right, theway Lotto carries herself.
Does that say I would like tohang out with her?
No, outside of just wanting toscrew her, I mean obviously
you'd hang out with her becauseyou want to screw her, but I
just mean we're like Sexy Reddoes this too, and I think we've

(56:05):
talked about it on here butlike L'Oreal and Sexy Red,
they're fun.
They just look like fun.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Same with Cardi B.
Oh yeah, no, yeah, she's fun.
She seems like she'd be fun tohang out with.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
You know, kind of like that person that we talked
about, that we're going to talkabout at Culture Hour.
Kind of like that person thatwe talked about, that we're
going to talk about at CultureHour.
Cardi B has won for like threemonths.
I can't do that long term.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
You're not going in on me on live, but three months.
It's like riding the Supermanat Six Flags.
Once you ride it you're likethat was fun.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
You know I probably won't be back at Six Flags, but
I'll remember that and I'm notwaiting three hours to ride this
shit again, but it was fun.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
I'll tell you what.
I'll tell everybody if you gotan opportunity ride.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Yeah, I'm going to tell them to go on a Tuesday
during the summer bro.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
No one's there, yeah, and make sure it's overcast
that day.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
It's not raining, but it's overcast, you know.
Back to NBA free agency, thoughI just think the Memphis
franchise has.
They have been consistentenough for me to say that I
trust what their front office isdoing, even if it doesn't make
sense to me today, as I look atit, they were a top three seed

(57:28):
until Ja got hurt.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
And they've been consistent.
First-round exits pretty much.
Yes, when they were the twoseed they lost to the Lakers,
and I get it, it's Braun and ADat the time, but like, and
Austin Reeves had a coming-outparty of sorts that year, but
like new Kung Fu, Kenny hey.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
I just don't think.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
I don't think.
I think they didn't have muchof a choice.
I would have shopped them.
I don't know what type ofoffers they were getting, but
like I would have just shoppedthem Because, if you're the
Lakers, right, because rememberthat they were named and then
they were.
They talked about how theknicks were like oh, him and cat
are dream pairing don't knowreal quick.

(58:13):
Him and cat are not a dreamparent, because your four and
your five are gonna foul outwell, I like it from the
versatility aspect because youcan play ball with one of them
on the floor while the other hasfoul, trouble or injury-wise.
People forget Cat actually hasan injury history.

(58:36):
He was healthy this year, buthe has an injury history, so it
wouldn't surprise me if hemissed 10 games, like 15 games.
But you don't want any draw.
You want to be able to go 7-8,8-7 at minimum during this yeah
but, but if he gets, hurt now.
Now they got Yabasele, which Ilike the signing.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
But, like you know, Now can Triple J work
offensively.
That's scary.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
It is Because you've got two guys that can pick a
fight.
Triple J is a sorry fuckingrebounder, though, too, he's
just like Miles Turner.
They're bad rebounding bigs,these guys.
Seriously, they average fiverebounds a game and it's like
but you're seven feet, I don'tunderstand, you're 6'11".
Why do you average fiverebounds a game?
I I don't understand.
You're 6'11", like, why do youaverage?

Speaker 1 (59:24):
five rebounds a game, I think Jaron Jackson, even
though I think one, he shouldrebound more.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
I think some of his is he plays real defense To
where he's so into blocking orguarding his man that he can't
fucking use that big-ass bodyand turn around.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
I'm just throwing it out there.
I don't deem it acceptable.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
And I get it.
Look, that's why they draftedEdie in the first round.
He's 7'4", right Like herebounds.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Nah, jaron, jackson and Miles, they don't rebound.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
I don't think.
I think that they didn't havemuch of a choice but to pay him.
Understandably, they probablymaybe could be able to move off
of him still eventually.
But like I don't think thatthat team's going anywhere, I
don't either First-round exit,but like it's still.
Gosh.
But how much better did theylike?
They didn't get better, so likeif they were the eighth seed
this year and in the play-in.
What are they going to be nextyear?

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
How do you get well, if you get a full, healthy job,
you're a four-to-five seed Shit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
I can name five teams better than them after this
offseason.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
Maybe, maybe.
Who's the maybe out of this?

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Who's the?
Maybe OKC Houston?
No doubters.
Lakers, no doubters.
Who got eight which we'll getto Denver?
No doubters.
There's four right there.
Minnesota is still better thanthem.
Give me Minnesota over them.
That's five.
I agree with you.

(01:00:59):
They're in trouble.
Dallas is going to have a, evenif Kai comes out after all-star
break.
Dallas is better than D'Lo.
They got D'Lo.
They got D'Lo.
And they read up Exum, who, asbad as we talk about him, like
in terms of like what he is fromwhere he got drafted, he is a
serviceable backup at this pointin the NBA.

(01:01:21):
And D'Lo is an all-star, Aformer all-star yeah, NBA.
And D low, the all-star, aformer all-star yeah, I like
them.
San Antonio probably fuckingemerges.
I think Santa was better thanMemphis all of this may happen.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Sacramento is still gonna be no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no.
We're not doing that.
We're no, no, no, no, no, no,no, no, no.
We're not doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
No, no, no no, no, no , no, no, no, no.
Sabonis, levine, derozan,assuming nothing else happens
with them and Dennis Schroeder.
And Malik Monk I would like.
I think the Kings are betterthan Memphis.
I think the Kings.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
I think the sum of their parts is less than the
whole.
Hold on Looking at the or likethe Clippers are fucking better
than them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Like I'm just saying, I'm naming all these teams that
I think are better than them.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
But would you be shocked if Memphis won 48 games
next year, because that's kindof who they've been when you
shot them yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
In this West I would be.
The Thunder are better, theRockets are better, the Lakers
are better, the Nuggets arebetter, the Clippers are better,
the Timberwolves are better,the Warriors are better, the
Mavericks are better.
That's eight.
All eight of them are better.
All eight of them.
They're better.
I wouldn't even think that theKings are a team to me whose
level they're on.
They're on that level with theKings.

(01:02:49):
The Suns are a nobody.
The Spurs are a team that isgoing to be there with them,
assuming that Wimby's healthy.
The Spurs are going to be there, bro.
They were the 2C before Jackgot hurt.
I don't care.
They lost more guys, like Ijust, and I don't think luke
canard is not like this dealbreaker ass player, but like
luke canard barely played.

(01:03:10):
But they lost desmond bang too.
Remember that.
Like I'm just saying, they lostnick.
Like they lost players.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
They haven't added anyone but I'm saying I, I trust
what their front office do youlike their coach.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
That they promote it.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
I like their front office, so I'm leaning on.
You know what.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
They're in a tough spot.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Memphis has been well run pretty much since they've
been in Memphis.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Some would say otherwise.
I mean, it worked out in theend, but trading Pau Gasol for
what they got for him.
Now, mark Gasol of courseworked out, but like you know,
they sucked immediately.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
I mean, but they weren't going to go anywhere
with Powell either.
What they built with Mark Z-Bo,grit and Grime.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Yeah, and they drafted Mike Conley.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Yeah, like that was good and what they are today
with Ja, a consistent playoffteam.
I mean, that's what Memphis is.
They're not a championshipfranchise, you're not competing,
they look like the Hawks.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
That's what they look like, not the now Hawks, but
the Hawks that we've just kindof been accustomed to.
It's like, well, trey Young's adraw.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Yeah, but like when you, when you take the memphis
job, you're like I'm not here towin championships, I'm here to
be really good, I'm here to getto the second round be really
good.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Get no state income tax, get fired in seven years
but, then you gotta worry aboutgoing to your car after the game
.
I mean, there's little stuffabout it, which is why the AC
William Parley Pete podcastco-signed the Grizzlies to
Nashville petition.
That's out there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Get those guys to Nashville.
I'm telling you, you get theGrizzlies to Nashville, I'll
move there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, sophie Cunningham woulddo it too.
By the way, after her commentsabout Cleveland and Detroit
getting a WNBA team, shesuggested Nashville should be
getting one instead.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
I can see Sophie Cunningham preferring to be in
Nashville over Detroit andCleveland.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
You mean once they have the draft Expansion draft.
Yeah, and she's going to be oneof the fucking players that has
to go.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Yeah, sophie Cunningham's not giving
Cleveland vibes.
I mean she kind of givesIndiana, but not really and I
know she's a Midwest chick, butlike Phoenix fit her pretty well
.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Yeah, yeah, she's not .
Yeah, I don't know Enough aboutthe Grizzlies, though.
That's such an irrelevant team.
I only did it because ittransitioned well with Jaron
Jackson.
Let's talk about our AtlantaHawks, who, by all accounts, I
think have been.
If you don't think they're thewinners of the offseason,
they're the winners of theEastern Conference offseason.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
I think they're the winners of the offseason.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
I think Denver's up there.
You saw Denver's move.
I like what Denver did, andHouston, of course.
They got KD, so that's a goodmove.
But, hawks, you trade forPorzingis, who he's on an
expiring deal, so if he'sinjured, it doesn't work out.
If it does work out, you've gotoptions.

(01:06:41):
But you fix the need.
You get a stretch five that canprotect the rim.
You're depending on itself.
Love the trade, I love thattrade.
And you only gave up.
You basically traded DeAndreHunter for Christoph Porzingis.
And who else did we get?

(01:07:02):
How?

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
did that deal break down?

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
You got Chris Daspor's answer.
Deandre Hunter, I like the deal.
Yeah, so you won that trade.
You do that.
You get Nikhil Alexander-Walkerno.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
I just wanted to say no.
Nikhil Alexander-W under Walkerno.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
I like the deal.
I love that deal.
You added another defender,another guy, a 3 and D type of
guy.
That will be depth or could bethe starter, depending on what
you want to do.
I think Richie Shea is going tostart but, like, regardless,
you've got to line up where youcan have him on the floor.
With Dyson Daniels.
You can keep Richie Shea in.

(01:07:47):
Poor Zingas and Jalen JohnsonLove that.
I like that defensively.
That sounds really nice.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Like you added, Luke Kennard, Think about the lineups
when Trey's on the bench, whenyou can go Dyson Nall, Jalen
Johnson, KP at the rim andwhatever other niggas you can do
a Kongu yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
Yeah, Like, like what the Hawks have done.
Let's give the Hawks DM a lotof credit for what he did Well
let's give.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Let's give wrestlers some credit for getting he did
coming in.
Let's give Ressler some creditfor getting rid of fucking
Landry.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Start with that.
He realized he made a mistakeand he moved on.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Ansi Sala is the new GM.
Let's give that guy some credit.
Slap it up.
I like what he's put together,I think.
Oh, by the way, you dropped itAsa Newell, who I don't know if
you watched any Georgiabasketball not particularly
great watch.
They made the tournament thisyear, though, so think about
that.

(01:08:59):
You know I don't watch thatsport.
Georgia doesn't go to the NCAAtournament.
That's something that you doknow, right, I do know that.
Yeah, well, they made it thisyear.
And who was the best player yougot?
Austin newell.
He's a 18, 19, a game guy,eight rebounds he's not a center
he's.
He can shoot it a little, butlike athlete yeah, he's athlete.

(01:09:21):
This is what I'm like.
You add that to the mix.
I don't know if Kobe Buffkinshould be Trey's backup.
I mean, I know they drafted him, obviously, but like I was
hoping that they would getsomebody like Dante Exum.
Chris Paul's not coming here,that's a pipe dream.
Russell Westbrook probably apipe dream If they were to get

(01:09:43):
one of them, though I'm notsaying the Hawks are the
favorite in these but I'm justsaying watch out If they're
healthy.
See, the Hawks' biggest questionis going to be health.
If they're healthy, they're topfour seed, no doubt this year
in these this is the roster thatgets Trey Young to All-NBA 13.
If Richie Shea takes a step,we're talking second team,

(01:10:12):
because Trey could average 15assists and 25 points.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
I mean Trey.
He's going to have first teamnumbers, but the media hates him
so much.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
But if he's 25-15 and the Hawks win 49 games.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
He'll probably be 25-11.
25-11, 53 wins, that should beall.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
If they get the 53 wins, though, they're the third
or maybe even the second seed.
Cleveland's going to have adrop-off Cleveland's not winning
64 games or whatever they won.
No, they probably have adrop-off Cleveland's not winning
64 games or whatever they won?

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
No, they probably win like 55, 58.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
Right now the East is Cleveland, new York, atlanta,
orlando.
Those to me are the four bestteams in the East on paper today
.
Yes, indiana loses.
Obviously I loved your jokethere because it took me a
minute and I was like, oh, it'sthe place that you would go in
San Diego called Pacers.
So it made sense.
What was my joke?

(01:11:11):
Well, you said you understoodhow Miles Turner felt.
You said you know when youleave Pacers.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Leaving Pacers is tough.
I've been there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Yeah, yeah, and so I understood it.
And anyone that you know thatlives in San Diego, they
understood it.
But they lose him and basicallyHalliburton's gone.
So you've lost essentially,before you got past Losiakum,
you're two best players.
In reality, those were thePacers' two best players before

(01:11:47):
they acquired past Luciaquemlast year.
So they I mean they'rewell-coached and they do have
depth and TJ McConnell will begood, but like they're not a
contender, they'll be a playoffteam, they're just not a
contender, like.
Toronto should be decent thisyear.
They're just not a contenderLike Toronto should be decent

(01:12:07):
this year, that's one of thoseteams that steps into the
playoffs, in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Well, you know, bill Simmons didn't really you know
he had some issues with Perksaying that Toronto would be
good.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
I think they will.
Well, I don't know about good,I just think they'll be a
playoff team when the play-in isover with.
They're going to be one of theeight teams.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
They are more talented than other teams.
I'm not saying that they fitwell, but they are more talented
than other teams.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
Yeah, they've got enough talent on that team to be
a playoff team.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
They're going to be able to switch pretty much
everything one through five too.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Yeah, exactly, there's depth in a lot of
different places.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
I mean.
But you think about it though,emmanuel quickly can average
what 16 a game.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
He's a key to be getting triple doubles low key.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
RJ Barrett.
He'll give you 20.
Scotty Barnes will give youclose to 20.
Bi on this team 22.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Yeah, I left the team out, by the way, because I'm
looking at this.
So Cavs, knicks, hawks, magic.
But I tell you what.
These are the guaranteed 16s,those four Pistons.
But the Pistons are in apeculiar place.
Depending on what happens,which I'm sure we'll get to him
as a whole other topic.

(01:13:37):
But there's no Malik Beasley.
As of now, we don't know what'sgoing to happen, but there's no
Malik Beasley.
You lost Dennis Schroeder.
Both of those guys are bigcontributors.
They signed.
Who did they sign?
They signed because they didn'tget.
We got Nall.
We got Nikhil Alexander-Walker.
Who did they sign?
I forgot who it was.
They lost Tim Hardaway.

(01:13:58):
Who did they sign?
The Pistons signed somebody, Ijust don't remember who it was.
But that's still three guys.
Those are three contributorsthis past year that are gone.
They get back Jaden Ivey whoagain, he's coming off injury.
I think that there's a littlebit of promise there.
But I mean, how good is hegoing to be?

(01:14:19):
Like, how good can he be?
Is he a 15-6 dude?
I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know.
Like Collin would have been anice fit there to me, he would
have been a nice fit there.
What the fuck is Schroeder?
I don't know.
Are they about?

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
to trade.
They got to be getting ready totrade LaMelo right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
That would be my thought.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
You re-up?

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Trey Mann.
You trade for Collin, you signSpencer Dinwiddie, you've got
Brandon Miller, you've gotLaMelo Ball, and I get it.
Brandon Miller can play thethree, so he doesn't have to be
a two.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
But it's like, okay, miles Bridges is your four and
you got Miles Plumlee as yourfive.
Miles Plumlee's stealing money.
By the way, he's a guy who'sblessed to be seven foot and
capable enough to continue toplay NBA basketball to where he

(01:15:19):
can just steal.
Yeah, like he just gets to stealmoney for three extra years.
You know like how Kwame Browntalked about having a 10-year
career.
Yeah, Kwame, you had a 10-yearcareer.
Your first contract was fouryears Cool.
Then you get your next contract, Like your last contract was.
There is a shortage of peoplewho are seven feet tall, who can

(01:15:42):
do what you do, so like.
We just need you here.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
Those moves don't move the needle one way or
another though.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
No, no, but like yeah , I just don't know what they're
doing, because colin dinwiddieand lamello, that just doesn't
make sense.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
you're talking about a trade man like.
I mean, you kept trade man likelike lamello, is what 25 a game
yeah now.
Now here's the thing with LaMelo, though that at least with them
, when they traded for Collin,to me that made a little bit of
sense, because LaMelo is 6'7",like, and his dad just talked

(01:16:26):
about it.
He said, you know, put him andLonzo together and LaMelo can
naturally play the two, becausehe's really a two.
I can see it.
I can see him not.
He has to have the ball in hishands, but so does somebody like
Colin, like these are guys thathave the ball in their hand.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
I don't like.
I'd rather Colin play off ofhim.
Like Melo at the one, colin atthe two.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Colin shot 40% from three this year.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
Yeah, I know, but I'm saying I'd rather Colin be the
two than LaMelo.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Make it an Eric Snow AI type thing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Yeah, because I think no, no, no, no, that's
disrespect.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
Well, I'm saying Allen Iverson, you know, allen
Iverson was the two, yeah, butIs all I'm saying.
But he was the shorter guard.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
Yeah, but but he was the shorter guard.
Yeah, I just think Colin shouldI think Colin shouldn't bring
the ball up to court, like Ithink he should be able to get
the ball from LaMelo and be inattack mode versus him bring the
ball up to court and be inattack mode if that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
Do you think?
To me it's the size of it asopposed to like the ball
handling distribution.
I guess the point is because Iguess it depends, Like to me,
spencer Dinwiddie's not starting, but it's like well, is Kyle
going to like?
Who's starting?
Who's going to be the startinglineup?

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
Well, both you could start either one of them, but
you could, yeah, you could.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
I guess my thought is that Dinwiddie, trey, manning,
the backups, it's going to beColin Lamello, brandon Miller,
bridges, plumlee, like to me,that would be the five.
That's the starting five.
Colin needs to start for hiscareer.
If you're not moving off Lllo,because if you move off lamello
I'm not sure where he would gettraded.

(01:18:17):
But, like holland and dinwiddiedon't work either.
That's disgusting I don't likeit.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
It's kind of stupid and so it's like there are two
iso scoring scoring guards, butyou know what?

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
In a weird way, charlotte could have acquired
Colin just to have him as anasset to trade, because he's
still on an expiring contract.
He can.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
A contender's got to want him at the deadline.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
Well, and they didn't give up anything to get him.
They gave up Nerkage and thatwas was it actually?
Because utah traded a secondround pick with colin, so there
was nothing?
They, they got nurkage off thebooks and he went to a situation
where he can be the backupcenter to kessler if he's not

(01:19:06):
going to get moved, and it'slike I don't know, it was kind
of a nothing burger, in a senseof they acquired an asset and
obviously, as I mean, I'll tellit still how it is he's a good
player, but like he's not like a, an all-star or anything right,
like he's not, he hasn't beenone but like that doesn't mean

(01:19:28):
that he's not capable in myopinion, but at, but at the same
time, charlotte's not.
I don't know what the fuckthey're doing either.
It's just kind of weird.
It's just like well, what are?
y'all going to do?

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
Well, what is Milwaukee doing?
Because, as I'm sitting herelistening to you talk and I'm
thinking about this conversationand I go, we don't know what
Charlotte's doing but, moreimportantly, we don't really
give a fuck what Charlotte'sdoing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
No, we don't.
But we care about MilwaukeeGosh, but they're starting to
become somebody you don't careabout either, because they have
Giannis and I like Miles Turner,but like because he basically
is Brooke Lopez, Like they kindof are similar in Miles Turner,
but like because he basically isBrooke Lopez, Like they kind of
are similar in a sense, butlike does that move the needle?
You still don't have Dame,because you cut him and then

(01:20:23):
you're running out who, Gary,Trent and Porter?
Yeah, like I mean bro, who'sdoing like?
Giannis got a point Another teamthat Colin could have got
traded to.
That I think I would have likedit a little bit more, like I
don't like him with Kevin Porter.
Well, the point is that theywouldn't have resigned Kevin

(01:20:43):
Porter, true, you would havejust let him walk because yeah,
I don't like that, I think thatsimilar, there's similar ball
style, playing style.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
Because, yeah, I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
I think that Similar they're similar ball style
playing style.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
I think Kevin Porter is a better scorer.
I think Colin's a betterdefender.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
You think Porter's a better scorer?
Yeah, I don't think I think,because Colin's a better shooter
.
He's a better scorer.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
Just because he's a better shooter than him, I'm not
saying more consistent scorer,he's bigger.
Collin's a better shooter.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
He's a better scorer Just because he's a better
shooter than him, I'm not sayingmore consistent score.
He's bigger, that's a plus,like he's bigger than Collin.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
I just think Kevin Porter has like, just has a
deeper bag.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Okay, fair.
I mean, I respectfully disagree.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
I don't think he's a better player, by the way.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
Yeah, well, the numbers suggest that.
But, like you know, Like KyleDameron's 18-5 this year, on 25
minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
I'd say on like a few minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Yeah, if he's given 33 a game, he's 21-6 in my
opinion, Like I think that'swhat type of player he can be.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
I just think he needs to go to Charlotte and start
Like he needs to get.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
Yeah but look, lamelo it's too much and Brandon
Miller it's so much fucking.
It's just not on a bad team.
Bridges still gonna get his.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
He doesn't need to be a six-man on this team, because
he doesn't need to bepigeonholed as a six-man because
I think he's an NBA starter,agreed.
But if he's like the six-man onthis bad team, going into.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
That's bad for him.
He's not going to get paid.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
He might go to a better situation, but he's going
to be typecast as a six-man.
Yeah, but I think that thatwould be okay, like if he went
to, but you don't want to betypecast as a six man because
you get paid like a six man.
You want to be a six man on agood team, but you want to.
You want to like get traded tothat good team.

(01:22:43):
You want to sign your contractas a starter, like because of
where he's at.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
You want to sign your contract as a starter, but look
at it this way if PeytonPritchard and TJ McConnell were
both free agents right now,coming off the years that they
had, both of them would get 100million dollar contracts.
I think I don't think so.
Really I think, depending onhow I mean, point guard is a
deep position in the league, butlike miles didn't get 100 from

(01:23:09):
uh in the league.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
But like Miles didn't get $100,000 from Indy, miles
didn't get $100,000 from Indy.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
So, tj McConnell, when I say $100,000, I mean if
it was over $5,000.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
If it was a five-year deal, you're not paying $20
million a year for TJ McConnell.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
We see it all the time.
Somebody would do it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
What this second apron?
It's like ruining the NBAbecause teams can't keep good
players on their rosters.
It's resetting these contractprices.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
Well right, that's why even a guy like D'Lo got two
year 12.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
Think about that shit .
The players fucked themselves.
If we're being honest, the newCBA is great if you are a star
player and your team wants tokeep you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
Hence SGA Getting 71.25 a year.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
Book who's about to sign a two for 150.
It works for them.
But you see, Luka gets traded.
Why?
Because they don't want to payhim the super max.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
They don't want to give him 75 a year.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
We're talking.
You see, miles.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
The Lakers are going to give it to him, though.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
Yeah, but you see Miles not get re-signed by Indy
because Halliburton's hurt.
So they know they're not goingto compete next year.
So it's like you know what?
Let's not even carry this moneybecause we know we're not going
to be good.
We're not getting great teambuilding anymore.
You can't build a team and keepyour guys.

(01:24:48):
Everybody's saying OKC is goingto be fine in a few years.
No, they're not.
Once they start payingeverybody, they're going to be
fucked.
And now you got to hit everydraft pick.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
Not, but there is such a better position, though I
mean remember.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
They're in a better position than everybody else,
but they're either.
They're either going to losepart of that core or they're
going to be stuck having to getthe draft picks right because
you know we're freeing Chet'sgoing to probably be the one
that goes.
Because I wouldn't give Chet amax.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
He doesn't deserve a max Chet's going to probably be
the one that ends up having togo.
But because they've got so manypicks, they like nicola topic
right, this is a guy that theydrafted 11th and he didn't play
this year.
But they drafted him 11th andapparently he could have went
higher.
He only went to them because,of course, a they had.

(01:25:47):
They could draft a guy thathigh and then stash him for a
year, ease him in this yearbecause he's going to back up
SGA.
They've still got a bevy ofpicks.
There's going to be somemarquee free agent that's out
there that they could put withJalen Williams J-Dub and SGA.
They're going to be able toattract.
I mean, I know it's OklahomaCity, but they're going to be

(01:26:09):
able to attract to get somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
If.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
Giannis wants to call it quits.
After this year, they'll stillhave the arsenal to make the
deal.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
He's not going there, though.
Giannis and SGA don't work.
Giannis doesn't work withanybody else who can be ball
dominant.
Giannis needs to play withshooters, defenders and
microwave guys.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
Do you think that's why the Hawks are the favorite
as of today?
Because there is no Treydoesn't have to be ball dominant
, certainly.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
He showed last year that he can come off the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
Led the NBA in assists.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
He led the league in assists.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
Yeah, no, I was playing that for come off the
ball.
Yeah, yeah, you know.
Yeah, no, these dogs I'm sorrymy dogs, because, as you see,
they're in here right now.
Yeah, they have gas.
I'm getting pissed off.
It stinks in here.

(01:27:15):
Well you're an ass man though.
Yeah, but that doesn't mean Iwant to smell dog ass.
I like woman ass.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
Yeah, yeah, you should.
You know I'm thinking aboutthese intros, stuff like that.
You can play Billy Gunn's musicComing out.
You remember Billy Gunn's musicIn the WWE.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
I don't.
I'm about to look it up rightnow.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
Okay, well, his the name of the song is I'm an ass
man, dun dun Cause I'm an assman, dun dun.
I'm an ass man, dun dun CauseI'm an ass man, dun dun, I'm an
ass man, yeah, I'm an ass man.
Sounds like a good night to goout and pinch a cola.

(01:28:11):
That's like the music that'splaying.
I can get behind that Pause.
Yeah, pause yeah well, justbecause it was Billy Gunn yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
But no, I hate the second apron and I just think
it's going to be.
It's bad for team construction.
It's great for the owners andbeing able to just like cut
costs and stuff and like run themost efficient business, but I
don't think that's building thebest basketball team, because

(01:28:50):
part of building a basketballteam is keeping players and
personalities and sometimes youdon't pay them the right number,
but they need to be there.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
You know what I mean by the way, I remember who
detroit got.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
They got duncan robinson, they that's right,
they paid 15 mil a year for him.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
That's crazy Well because that means that Malik
Beasley's on the outs, whichmaybe this is the perfect time
to segue to him, considering youknow the reason, that he
potentially probably just costhimself God at least $50 million
.

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
Yeah, if he was going to get like a three-year deal
like he would have gotten thesame money.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
If not, I have to figure more.
I think he's a better playerthan dr robinson.
Like dr robinson is athree-point specialist, he's
luke canard.
Like to me, those are moresimilar players.
Malik beasley can do more thanshoot threes.
He just had a great yearshooting the three, like you
know, and you know.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
So I'm just gonna give a just a snapshot of the
malik beasley stuff.
He's um reportedly an eightmillion dollars worth of debt,
owing 26 000 to his barber, 34000 to his dentist.
He's made 5959 million in NBAearnings.
He's being investigated by thefeds and some gambling stuff

(01:30:21):
that he's somewhat involved in.
I'll tell you I believe thisstuff about him and I'm pretty
sure I told you a story behindthe scenes.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
You've got somewhat intimate knowledge of this.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
Yeah.
So when this came out, I waslike, oh, I believe it.
Like before I even read thedetails, I'm like, oh, I believe
it.
And then I started seeing, likeall the different people he
owes money to, I'm like, oh yeah, that aligns with the story
that I was told.
Yeah, yeah, no, that makessense.

(01:31:01):
Yeah, he's a crash out.
He's a certified crash out andI've also heard stories about
that as well like reckless, he'sa guy you don't want to go to
the club with.
Is that bad?

(01:31:25):
Ask the Broncos, they don'tcare for him.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
I mean, he was fucking Larson Pippen right.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
Yeah, but I heard that he, bro, you know the guy
you don't want to go to the clubwith and he doesn't exist in
our group because we're not intothat type of stuff.
But he's the guy freshman yearthat wasn't in the crew,

(01:31:57):
sophomore year.

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:32:04):
Real quick.
Do you have an idea in yourhead who the guy was, who you
were cool with freshman year andthen you realized almost every
time y'all went out he got tofight and it's like, hey, man, I
can't keep going out with thisnigga.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
There are well, to a degree.
Yeah, like to put it this way,I'm still cool with.
There's two people that poppedin my head.
I'm still cool with both ofthem.
Like I've hung out with both ofthem or seen both of them,
certainly in the last threeyears, okay, but like I
understand where you're comingfrom, like overall, like this

(01:32:43):
isn't the type of setting I wantto go out with you.
Yeah, yeah, because if I canavoid it, I will.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
Yes, like you're cool to come to the house and kick
it.
Thanks, ghost, for turning offmy light.
Uh, you're cool to come to thehouse and kick it, but I don't
want to go to the club with youbecause I might have to fight
somebody, because I'm with youand you're my friend, but the
reason that we're fighting isnot a reason that I would fight

(01:33:10):
for.
Hold on, let me turn this lighton, because I am too dark to be
sitting in a dark room.

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
Yeah, no, and I guess the thing is is that you look
at Malik Beasley's situation andif you're saying that it's that
bad and that you know Beasley,he's kind of notorious for this,
this is the type of person thathe is.
It's unfortunate that a dudewould cost himself so much money

(01:33:42):
.
I think a lot of people forgetjust how much money these guys
make and how one contract ismore than what a lot of people
will make in their lifespan.
Yeah, like one contract forthese guys is that?
And it's like the fact that hewould put himself in that

(01:34:04):
position, knowing that you makethis kind of money, and it's
like I don't want to call himstupid, I want to.
It is stupid.
I don't want to call him stupid, I want to.
It is stupid.
I don't want to call him stupid.
I think that, like the peoplearound him did him a disservice
too, Like his agent should havegotten a handle on this, Like

(01:34:24):
that's why he hired you andwhatever the agency is.
I'm going to assume that he hasa normal agency like CAA or
something, and that it's notlike Omar Cooper or something.
I'm going to assume that's nothis agent.
It's not like a family friend.
If he has a legitimate agency,you can't control what the

(01:34:46):
player is doing, but youliterally get paid to fucking
advise him.
That is the point.
The point is that why is itthat he's having to take out
million-dollar hard loans whenhe's made $40?

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
million.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
Adrian Rodgers.
Why does he have to take out?
You read the article right.

Speaker 1 (01:35:06):
No, I didn't.
I forgot.
I had to walk the dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
In the article it breaks down a lot of it, so it's
more than just the dentist andthe barber and that stuff he
took out.
So it's common, apparently it'scommon among the athletes.
They take out loans and he'staking out now very high
interest loans, basically damnnear.
So it's funny because I canrelate to it, because I know and

(01:35:31):
I am not a millionaire or anathlete, but I know what type of
loans they're talking about.
I don't know how a guy that'smaking that much money gets into
that type of position to haveto take out so a lot of times
they take the loans out beforethey're, before they sign a deal
so in his case, though, this iswhat made it different.
This was not like his rookiecontract.
He just couldn't wait for thefirst and the 15th.

(01:35:55):
Essentially, oh, yeah, and likeI don't remember what his deal
was, for instance, like with thepittsburgh especially.
Let's say it's one year, nineor something.
What, especially if you've gotdebt in other places?
What do you have to do that for?
To where you're not paying yourlandlord, you're not paying

(01:36:15):
your barber, you're not payingyour dentist.
And these are all essentials,right Upkeep for grooming,
dental.
Of course your teeth got to bestraight.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
Well, hey, but here's the thing.
So Jeff Teague talked aboutthis on his show today, right,
and one thing he pointed out hesaid bro, you're in the NBA, you
got, you got health care.
Like you got insurance.
You don't have to pay to go tothe dentist.
He's like I never paid to go tothe dentist while I was in the
NBA.
So unless you got like someveneers or something or you done

(01:36:47):
tricked off on a chick, right,and then even like, with the
rent and stuff not being paidand the barber not being paid,
he's like he could have had abad financial advisor, because a
lot of times the financialadvisors are supposed to take
care of all of that stuff, likeniggas get all these millions
and they don't, they don't, theydon't manage their day-to-day.

(01:37:09):
You know they don't, they don't, they don't pay their rent,
they don't pay their billsomeone else-day they don't pay
their rent, they don't pay theirbills, someone else does it for
them.
And he said it could have verywell been this bad financial
advisor and apparently he didrearrange some of his staff
about a year or two ago.
So I'm not saying that's whathappened, but I'm just throwing

(01:37:30):
out there that that could havebeen something that happened,
because even in the conversationJeff was like when you get
traded, a lot of times a teamsets you up with where you live
so they know, like, if you ain'tpaying rent, they know your
boss, they know who pays youyeah, it's like uh, they call it

(01:37:53):
corporate housing yeah, it'slike you know my man's it just
seems so unfortunate and maybehe's not the only one and it
just is coming to the lightbecause of the gambling and it

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
doesn't help with it, but I think that like it's just
one of those situations towhere it's just like bro, what
are you doing?
You're coming off the best yearof your career on a team that
wanted you back.
It was promising, you guys madea run.
Then the sleuths of theinternet they get on twitter and

(01:38:26):
they're able to prove like somefunny fucking shit that I saw.
Did I send you the video?
There was a video of him.
Absolutely, they were down likenine.
Guy makes the free throw.
They're down 10.
The spread's eight and a half.
He catches the ball with fiveseconds.
He sprints down the court andlays it up right before the time

(01:38:48):
because nobody's guarding thegame's over.
But he does it and it coversthe spread.
And I'm not saying he bet onthe game, nothing, nothing like
that.
But like.
That is the type of stuff whereeven the gamblers, the people
that are betting on this stuff,if they're watching it closely
and they bet minus 8.5 on theother side, you do start to
wonder to yourself man, get thefuck out of here Basically, get

(01:39:13):
the fuck out of here.
Typically, when a game's over,there are times when guys will
shoot them shots, it happens,but like he had to go all the
way down court, like the gamewas over, they just will dribble
it out, let the ball dribbleand give it to the ref, and he
did that, and now he's beingprobed, and it's just kind of
like.
I'm not going to lie to you,though the integrity of the game

(01:39:36):
is in the balance when shitlike this comes out.

Speaker 1 (01:39:40):
I'm not going to lie to you, though.
If I'm a player and it's likethe end of the game and I know
the spread and like I could geta bucket to either change the
bet, I probably would just tofuck with people, because the

(01:40:01):
game is now decided.
Right, the game is decided.

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
Yeah, you bet the money on, but the over-under is
at stake, potentially, and so isthe spread.

Speaker 1 (01:40:11):
But as a player I don't care about that, and these
two extra points help my pointsper game average too.
I got to renegotiate a contractsoon and you know what them two
points may have.
Gave me 16 tonight, and that'sa good number for me to carry
into my average right.
But real quick, I'm goingthrough his contracts.
He signed his rookie contractfour years, 7.8 mil.

(01:40:34):
His next contract, four years.

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
He's a second-round pick.

Speaker 1 (01:40:39):
No, it sounds like a first-round pick.

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
Four years seven and he went lottery.
He must have been late.

Speaker 1 (01:40:48):
I'll check in a second.
But then he signed a four-year60, and then he had a one-year
2.7.
And then a one-year six Malik.

Speaker 2 (01:41:02):
Beasley, he's 28.
Oh, he's from Atlanta.
Wow, I didn't realize he wasfrom Atlanta.
Yeah, he's from Atlanta, okay,he went to St Francis, so he
went to a private school.
Yeah, he's the 19th pick, so itwasn't lottery, but he's first
round.
Damn, they were really notpaying the niggas a little bit
back then.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
No, no, first round picks.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
don't get like like they don't that rookie contract
they upped it way more, Collins,not to put his finances out
there.
I mean, I guess it's for theinternet to see it.
His deal was like a four-year.
He got like 25 almost.
That just seems like a lot morethan that and granted, he got
drafted two years prior andwasn't a lottery pick, but

(01:41:45):
that's a big difference.

Speaker 1 (01:41:46):
But you know, but also you know, the goal is to
get your second contract.
That's the one that changesyour life.

Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
Which is what he got.
You said it was a four-year 60.

Speaker 1 (01:41:56):
Four-year 60.
He got it and he blew it.
You know how much do you thinkhe was gambling?

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
Let's see, hold on.
I got to look at the year One,two, three, four.
So Minnesota is who gave it tohim.
That was during COVID.
Yeah, he's probably justsitting up Just fucking spending
his every week.

(01:42:25):
He was just spending, and I'mnot going to say just gambling,
but he would get the check andspend the check.
Oh yeah, Save none of it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:42:38):
You can understand.
Stuff like this makes youunderstand how one could blow
$60 million.

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
I am curious looking at this Now.

Speaker 1 (01:42:49):
I bet he was having some fun.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
I can't for sure say this, but it I mean it just says
he went to saint francis andalpharetta, but like it's, like
I'm gonna assume he didn't livein alpharetta and that's a bad
assumption.
But like I mean, look, I didn'tlive in sandy springs and I'm
not him.
But like I'm just simply sayingmy assumption is, if he went to
private school in alpharetta,he was traveling, he was you

(01:43:13):
know commuting there Like hedidn't live in Alpharetta, but
maybe the idea that he hadn'tseen that kind of money.
And I get it Like when I thinkeven to and I'm not an NBA
player but I look at the timewhere I had the most amount of
money in my bank account once.
I look at the time where I hadthe most amount of money in my

(01:43:33):
bank account once and how likeit good it felt to like spend
money and to just not even thinkabout it, like I mean, not that
you don't like, not that Ithought about other things when
I did it, but like it's justlike more or other times when it
wasn't as much, but it's justlike the.
I'm sure if you see a couplemillion dollars get deposited in

(01:43:55):
your account, that shit's theadrenaline.

Speaker 1 (01:43:59):
Oh yeah, I'm about to go do something stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
Yeah, Like fuck buying a car I'm talking just
like splurging on superunnecessary.

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
But it'll be a few thousand dollars.
I'm going to be a few thousanddollars.
I'm going to be honest, keepdoing it.
I'm going to be honest with you.
If I had like 2 million justdeposited into my account, like
right now, what time is it 1025.
We probably cut the show and godo something Very irresponsible

(01:44:33):
In the city and it wouldprobably end at Magic City.
Not end, it would probably beat Magic City Throw in.
Throw in more ones than weshould To then go to like a
fucking Suite at the W.
You know, Drew Turner might flyin and go to like a fucking

(01:44:55):
suite at the W.

Speaker 2 (01:44:56):
You know, Drew Turner might fly in and go to work in
the morning.
Well, with that and right withthat type of slurge off, like
now, we got to get this donetonight.
Like we're doing it tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:45:04):
Yeah, like well, like well.
Today's what Wednesday.
It would be like I would likeif it, if it popped to the
account tonight, I would hit thelocker room.
Who can come to Atlantatomorrow if you didn't have to
pay for a plane ticket?
Or who could go to Vegastomorrow if you didn't have to
pay for a plane ticket?

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
You'd get 80% attendance.
I bet.

Speaker 1 (01:45:30):
Yeah, the married guys I understand, but even them
, dan, if you guys I understand.

Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
But even them.
Then if you say, get yourwife's ass up, tell her to
fucking hop on the plane.
Well, well, well, well, Well.
Yeah, you know, but in thatsituation you probably wouldn't
want a wife there.
But at the same time, if it'sthat big of a hang-up to where
you can't come, get her ass heretoo, yeah, and then I'll send.

(01:45:56):
We'll send her out for a day ofpampering.

Speaker 1 (01:45:58):
Yeah, then I'll send Cindy an assload of money.
I'll be like yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46:06):
Leave me alone.
No, leave me alone, not forever, but I'm just saying go do
something, don't hit me up thisweekend.
I will call you when I want totalk, because I'm going to want
to talk to my daughter.
Outside of that.
Don't call me no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:46:27):
If you do call, if you want to call text first.
I might need to get out ofthere, because what's going on
in here?

Speaker 2 (01:46:41):
Well, at that point again, if somebody's wife comes,
you might even just be likelook, I bought this other phone,
this is my number, my newnumber, this is my old phone
number.
So if she calls, tell her I'mbusy and you text Boink and
Boink will tap me on theshoulder and I'll go from there

(01:47:03):
on how we can talk, because yougot that kind of money at that
point.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
And think about it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:09):
That's only with $2 million.
Now we're talking about niggasout here that are making.
If his last contract was $6million, fuck the $6 million he
got.
Let's just talk about this yearalone.
He got $6 million.

Speaker 1 (01:47:24):
You should be able to right all of your wrongs with
that $6 million and still livecomfortably.

Speaker 2 (01:47:32):
From October until May, this nigga was with the
team.
Only during the NBA Cup weekendwould he have had time to go on
vacation.
Right, like that would havebeen their bye week.

Speaker 1 (01:47:50):
And you're rich, they're paying for everything.

Speaker 2 (01:47:53):
I'm sure the team is paying for your food, your
travel, obviously.
I mean you're not having to doanything.
You have to show up to practice.
Okay, you got a week long, uh,or a 10-day homestand.
You got a game, so much I meanit's still every other night.
Basically, how much fuckingshit are you getting?
Like bro, what are you doing?

(01:48:14):
Like I don't understand.
And then your teammates arewith you, they're hitting you up
and I highly doubt he's anoutcast on his team I don't know
he might be.
You don't think DS17 was likeor what was he on the Pistons?
He wasn't 17,.
Was he?
Or was he on the pistons?
He wasn't 17,.
Was he?
Or was he 77?
I don't remember he be havingso many numbers.
That nigga's completing therainbow too.

(01:48:36):
He's doing like his 10th team,hey but hold on.

Speaker 1 (01:48:40):
If this nigga ain't paying his rent and he asking
his agent for money and he ain'tpaying his barber and he ain't
paying the dentist, you know hedidn't paying his barber and he
ain't paying the dentist, youknow he didn't ask his teammates
for money.

Speaker 2 (01:48:56):
So he might be an outcast.
He make too much, though, Imean.

Speaker 1 (01:49:07):
Yeah, but if you owe me money, if my teammate owe me
money and then come to find outhe owe so-and-so money and he
owe about three, four peoplemoney and they ain't got paid.

Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
But I'd have to.
If I'm the teammate that he'sasking, I'd reassess myself too,
because I'm like I just Googledyour contract.
Why are you asking me for money?
That's the fucking red flag.
Anyways, he's already rich.
He's he's already rich.
He's not a rookie.
He's not brock purdy beforethis year asking christian

(01:49:39):
mccaffrey yo, I need 50 grand.
It's not like that.
He's been in the league so,like I don't know if I would, I
would even give it to him, notbecause I don't believe that I
can.
I would wonder why I wouldactually ask him which most
friends don't ask that becauseyou don't need to if you know.

(01:50:00):
But at the same time, if it'sanother millionaire, I am asking
because it's just like allright.
What's the problem?
I will help you, but I need toknow the problem.
What is the actual issue?
Because then that willdetermine if you want to give it
to them If it's anothermillionaire.
Think about that.
I just want you to think aboutthat aspect of it.

(01:50:22):
Why is another millionaireasking me for money, and it's
not a significant amount to thepoint where, hey, I need $2
million.
Basically, I want you to helpinvest in something with me.

Speaker 1 (01:50:32):
But I think that's the problem is that they can let
a lot of those guys can let$10,000 go like it's nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
They can Apple Pay it .

Speaker 1 (01:50:42):
Yeah, and you just be like all right bro.
Yeah, here, cool, you're notmissing the money.
But you know, 10 here, 10 there, that adds up.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, I need that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:59):
Yeah, but why is he asking If you're another
millionaire?
Why are you asking me for 50grand, 30, 20 grand?

Speaker 1 (01:51:07):
Yeah, here goes the scenario we playing Bure and
home.

Speaker 2 (01:51:11):
But he didn't lose his job like something bad
didn't happen.
What why?

Speaker 1 (01:51:17):
I don't.
I got my head cracked on thebooray table and I'm like I, I'm
gonna give you, I'm gonna giveyou this per diem check now, and
then like when, when I get paid, I'll pay you back.
And then you don't pay him backand then you just play again.
You know what I'm saying?
And then you don't pay him backand then you just play again.
And then you know, like it'sways to where he could be

(01:51:39):
finessing the ask for money,because no, he's a certified
crasher.
Like this is worse than PeteRose.
It sounds likeout Like this isworse than Pete Rose.
It sounds like it Like thislooks like a guy who makes a lot

(01:51:59):
of bad decisions, a guy whodefinitely did not grow up in
Alpharetta.
Okay, no, no, no, no, no, no,no.
Like because he's doing whatlike the niggas in the 90s was
doing in pro sports, when theniggas just was too young, too
rich, too fast.

Speaker 2 (01:52:20):
But that's the issue.
They make way too much moneynow.
They all make a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:52:26):
They deserve to make the money that they make, based
upon the revenue that they bringin, but I think that they make
too much money.
They, they make too much money,they just make too much money
for.

Speaker 2 (01:52:35):
They make too much money for world purpose yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:52:43):
I would actually rather my professional athletes
make $100,000 a year, orhundreds of thousands of dollars
a year, to where you're not sorich that competition doesn't
matter anymore, but at the sametime, like no, like pay them

(01:53:04):
because this league generates somuch revenue that, like no, the
players are still underpaid, ifwe're being honest.

Speaker 2 (01:53:11):
Yeah, well, the owner has to win the deal.
They still have to ultimatelybe the winners.
That's any business.
For the most part, and mostbusinesses I have to imagine at
least I can say on record.
For me, the idea would be,after all expenses are paid,
that you should be profiting.
If you've got a profitable,good business, you should be

(01:53:34):
making between 20 to 25 percentof your revenues.
Profit.
That would be the hope andthat's if it's a good business.
But clients, everybody's gotdifferent contracts, which is
what makes it different.
But if you can make afteryou've paid for everything and
actually that's a generousnumber that I'm taught that is

(01:53:56):
more per I tell you in my casemore per account.
Overall you should be profiting15.
After everything's paid off,when everything is I'm talking
every expense you should beprofiting 15.
That would be the hope.
If it's a well-oiled machineand it's making money.

Speaker 1 (01:54:17):
Yeah, and you know, I think it's important for you to
say that because oftentimes weget into these conversations
about how much labor deservesand labor probably does get
shorted and pretty mucheverything, because that's the
way it works.
But also it's important thatthe guy or gal who takes

(01:54:41):
responsibility of the businessand is taking that risk every
pay term however you want tobreak it down to be like
everybody else gets paid beforeI get paid, even though I may
mark out what I want to get paidand base everybody's salaries
around it but everybody has toget paid before I can get paid,

(01:55:05):
because I have contracts withthese people that entitles them
to a certain dollar figure,people that entitles them to a
certain dollar figure.
You know, and that risk initself I think it gets.
It gets so lost, especiallylike on black podcasts when they
talk about pay them more, paythem more, pay them more.
They deserve it.
Well, they're not taking therisk to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:25):
They're not putting the money up, they're not taking
the risk and typically in a lotof these situations you have to
bid on it anyways.
And if you're bidding on it,you have to go lower probably
than what you really want.
I mean, unless you're a superproven commodity or make a lot
or is fixed to where you knowthe person that's doing the
bidding process.
You've got to bid enough towhere obviously you will make

(01:55:49):
money, enough to where obviouslyyou will make money.
But like, at the same time, youcan't overbid too for what you
really want, because somebody'sprobably coming in lower than
you and if they're coming inlower than you, then you're not
getting the contract at all.
If you don't get the contractat all, that's a missed
opportunity.
So you're gonna have to, you'regonna give up some ass too in
the process so that you can justmake more money, build, build

(01:56:11):
more of a reputation, have moreof a clientele list that you can
reference and use with otherpeople.
You're going to want to do thatIf you do it in that situation.
Specifically, again, it dependson who the client is, depending
on whatever type of work you do,but there's somebody with us

(01:56:32):
where we would build in 30percent market.
So if it's 30 versus.
I have another client and we do40.
That's a big deal, that's ayou're making.
You're making 25 less on yourmarkup and that's before
expenses like workers comp,payroll, um, if you have any

(01:56:54):
additional, like uh recruiting,like uh marketing, basically
like any of those.
But you're doing it just tomake sure that you have the
contract.
That 30 doesn't seem very goodanymore, but you make money.
It's not that you're not notmaking money, it's just you're
more you're.
Now we're talking about marginsyeah, the margins are much
smaller.
And god forbid if somebody getshurt or something and then your

(01:57:18):
insurance gets raised, becausenot only does it raise it there,
it raises it across the board,assuming that you have one
policy unless and even then Ithink that, uh, when you have
two different policies, that canstill, it would still get back
to them.

Speaker 1 (01:57:30):
It's just like car insurance, like so yeah, you,
you can get hit and it not beyour fault, but your insurance
still goes up yeah, or theworker could be lying and they
could have you know, fuckingtripped and fell while mowing
their lawn.

Speaker 2 (01:57:44):
But they came in the next day and they were working
doing something and itaggravated it more.
But now they got hurt on thejob and that wasn't a you
problem, it was that niggawalked in limping and it's just.
It happens all the time.
Charleston white has talkedabout this himself and how he
did it.
It happens especially withwarehouse jobs.
It happens.
It's that it happens.

(01:58:05):
People do it because they think.
They think that you're gettingfat off that cow and you're not.
You're making money but you'renot getting fat off that cow and
you're not You're making moneybut you're not getting fat off
of the fucking shit.

Speaker 1 (01:58:19):
Two things I love that you brought up margins,
because the margins is probablythe most important conversation
that gets left out of when wetalk about distribution of money
between ownership and labor.
Ownership is protecting themargins, right Like and just

(01:58:45):
even like in business, rightSo-and-so company slashes or has
huge layoffs, but the bonusesdidn't change for the people who
get the bonuses Because we gotto keep this margin.
The margin is more importantthan the break even.
We assume we're breaking even,but we need this margin and if

(01:59:07):
we don't get this margin, youniggas get cut.

Speaker 2 (01:59:15):
I would rather have a job where, or if I'm doing
business with somebody where Ibill them $20 an hour and I pay
the worker $10 an hour, asopposed to I bill them $30 an
hour and I pay the worker $25 anhour, Because the margin is 50%
in that, so it's like revenuedoesn't even matter in that

(01:59:39):
situation Like I'm making moremoney here because the margin is
better.
But people will look at it andbe like, oh, but this was what
your revenue was.
And it's like revenue is goodfor.
If you want a bullshit loan,it's good for that.
And it sounds impressive whenpeople hear, oh, they made this.
It's like, no, they did notmake that, they generated that.

(02:00:00):
They didn't make it.

Speaker 1 (02:00:02):
They generated it.
We don't know how much theyspent to generate it.
And what a lot of people don'tunderstand is the best way to
maximize profit is to cut costs,not increase revenue.

Speaker 2 (02:00:13):
Correct, but people think that making more money, a
dollar saved, truly is a dollarearned.

Speaker 1 (02:00:20):
But, you know, a lot of people don't really
understand economics though, youknow, and that's where I enjoy
the people that say it's abovemy pay grade.
I enjoy the people who say thatabove my pay grade.
I enjoy the people who say that.
But the problem is not enough.
People say that I was talkingto my dad earlier today and we
were talking about how politicalconversations are just such big

(02:00:44):
drivers in society now how youused to just didn't talk
politics.
Now people are constantlytalking politics and they're
adjusting relationships't talkpolitics.
Now people are constantlytalking politics and they're
adjusting relationships based onpolitics.
And because you've shared ithere, I was telling him I'm like
, yeah, one of my best friendsvoted differently than I did or
would have, but it's back inself-interest that makes sense.

(02:01:12):
And then there's also theacceptance of the negative
things that could come with it.

Speaker 2 (02:01:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:01:20):
But, at the end of the day, you can't tell somebody
what they should prioritizewhen they go to the ballot box
versus what you prioritize,because everybody's priorities
are different.
But, like, does your decisionalign with your priorities and
your values?
Yeah, okay, cool, I candisagree with your decision, but
I can agree with how you gotthere.
So we're good, right.
But anyways, as a as a poliside guy right, someone who

(02:01:44):
studied it I'm like there's toomany people talking about it who
don't know what they're talkingabout.
Like, there there are people whoare happy that Donald Trump
authorized the sit in Iran Cool,I don't necessarily have an

(02:02:12):
issue with him saying let's dropthis bomb, but I have an issue
with the president not goingthrough congress and then having
a supreme court that allows himto do things that have been
historically deemedunconstitutional.
I I have a problem with theexpansion of presidential power,
not not the president himselfor even the policies, but, like
a lot of people who talk aboutit, they don't even understand

(02:02:35):
the nuances of the conversationand you can't have a nuanced
conversation with them.
They are just strictly talkingcause, effect, action, reaction.
It's bigger than that.
But, sorry, that's my nerdrabbit hole.
Aren't we just talking aboutbasketball?

Speaker 2 (02:02:54):
Well we're moving on here now to hour three.

Speaker 1 (02:02:57):
We are Aiden to the Lakers.
We should hit that yeah oh forsure.

Speaker 2 (02:03:01):
Well, yeah, we got to hit Lakers because you know
that'd be like Steve not talkingCowboys or something.
But of course, obviously we areboth connected to that
franchise, the Lakers beingpretty much my favorite team.
Always growing up, I mean, Iwould still consider myself a
Lakers fan and you obviouslybeing a big LeBron fan, which

(02:03:23):
really actually that's the truetopic here but I like the move
in terms of because it was thebest move that they could
possibly make at this point inthe game.
Al Horford would be the biggermove in a weird way they're able
to get Al Horford to go withthat Beautiful.
I think he's going to go toGolden State, though.
I think Al's going to go toGolden State.
That's actually a perfect fittoo.

Speaker 1 (02:03:44):
According to everybody in the NBA that I
listen to and respect, they sayAl Horford to Golden State
doesn't do.
Isn't it a perfect fit?
I mean, there's not many thatare better.

Speaker 2 (02:03:57):
Yeah, that's a good fit, but Aiden will fill a void
for the Lakers.
He'll be a great lob threat forLuka and Bron.
It's going to be an issue, Ifeel like, at the end of games.
He's not exactly a rimprotector like that, in my
opinion.

Speaker 1 (02:04:17):
He's a walking double-double.
First overall pick, the ninthfirst overall pick, lebron's
played with He'll be a 14-10 guy, yeah, maybe even 15-10.

Speaker 2 (02:04:28):
That's going to be his lot in life with them.
He's athletic, so that'sanother positive there, but he
doesn't stretch the floor in anykind of way.
I don't think he's not a badfree-throw shooter, if I'm not
mistaken.
I don't think he's a badfree-throw shooter.
He's probably like a 70% dude,which is always good when you're
seven feet if you can shoot atleast 70%.

(02:04:50):
But you know, I just I don'tknow, I don't.
I don't know if that is one ofthose things that puts the
Lakers over the top, but again,it was a move that was necessary
and needed.
They did need to fill that void.
He's certainly an upgrade overHayes, so it's like you know

(02:05:12):
what what, what else were they?
going to do.

Speaker 1 (02:05:15):
It's time to move, austin Roofs.

Speaker 2 (02:05:17):
I think so too, because you don't really have
much of a choice.
But if the reports are true,anyways, and they're treating
LeBron like an expiring contractbecause he is one, but that's
what they're treating it like Istill think Put so much gas in
that truck to this LeBron stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:05:34):
Yeah, but I still think, before we get into the
LeBron stuff, I think you stillmove Austin Reeves because I
don't think Luka, Austin Reevesis a championship backcourt.
They can't guard me and you,they can't guard me and you, and
to make those two work you haveto have specific players on

(02:06:00):
your roster.
Yeah, and I think that's whatmakes it hard, like it's taken
the Hawks Look how long it'staken the Hawks to actually put
the right what we think rosteraround Trey.

Speaker 2 (02:06:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:06:13):
It's taken seven years and they've had some good
ones.
They've had some not so goodones.
But now they've kind of figuredout oh, we need a two guard who
can play defense.
We need a rim protector.
We also probably need moreshooting.
Oh, we need a lot of long wingson our team.

(02:06:34):
Some guys that are athletic yeah, and like, these guys aren't
always available or want to comehere.
So it takes multiple free offseasons and seasons and trades
and free agency signs to getthese guys here.
So when you have like luke andaustin reeves as you're wanting
to, yeah, you're getting 50points a night out of your, out

(02:06:56):
of your backcourt yeah, cool,but how many points are they
giving up and what players couldyou put behind them and can you
afford those players like tothe quality that you need, you
know?
So I say get off of Reeves asan expiring because he's about
to get a max anyways, and Lucaand Austin Reeves on on max

(02:07:17):
contracts.
That's, that's, that's not it.

Speaker 2 (02:07:20):
And and the other part of that is too, of course
there is life after LeBron andit's like, obviously, you don't
know if he's going to play againafter this season.
Now I think that stuff becomesreal to where this could be
LeBron's last season.
It could be Like it could be.
I think it could be.
I would lean towards him now atthis point, just because of how

(02:07:45):
well he's played, that heprobably plays at least one more
after this, but realistically,this could be it too, like this
could be it.
And so there's life afterlebron do you?
really want to be for one, notget anything for austin reeves.
But then two, even if you paidaustin reeves, is that what you
want to build the lakers on aluca austin reeves team once
lebron's gone?
Probably the fuck not.

(02:08:06):
And so if that's not what youwant to build on, get rid of him
, get some pieces, becausesomebody will take him.
That is going to end up.
That will end up giving himthat max deal that he's going to
desire.
Get some more pieces in thatcan help that team now.
But you can also build aroundOnce LeBron is gone, whether he

(02:08:27):
stays another year, after thisyear he comes off the books.
You're going to give Lukaeverything, but you'll have
enough to sign a co-star orbuild another complete team.
It just makes more sense.
You don't want Austin Reeves totake up that cap.

Speaker 1 (02:08:42):
You don't want Austin Reeves to be the number two,
you want him to be the numberthree.

Speaker 2 (02:08:45):
For a second year if LeBron comes back.
You definitely don't want to bein the second April, which is
what you would probably be inBingo.

Speaker 1 (02:08:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:08:57):
Would you like Austin Reeves with the Hawks?

Speaker 1 (02:09:01):
As a Max.
No Fair, because we've got topay.

Speaker 2 (02:09:03):
Dyson.
I would rather, if the Hawksare going to go down the rabbit
hole of going after a Max player, the Giannis thing makes a lot
of sense.

Speaker 1 (02:09:12):
He's this.
well, no, yannis is differentbecause and you trade jalen
johnson like he would be goneyeah, but yannis is different,
because if you can get yannis,you, you, you move.
You don't want to move treyyoung for yann, but it's not out
of the question Because you'retalking about Giannis is

(02:09:39):
somebody who's good enough thatyou can build your franchise
around him and he's a big enoughdraw that you're going to sell
tickets and jerseys that it isokay to move Trey Young for
Giannis.
You don't want to because youwant to pair them together.
But I'm just saying, like, froman overall like.

Speaker 2 (02:09:59):
Giannis.
Yes, yes, but it wouldn't beplayer for player.
That's the issue.
Like I'm on board with JalenJohnson, Reese Lachey, two
firsts for Giannis.

Speaker 1 (02:10:11):
I'd do it today.

Speaker 2 (02:10:12):
I don't want to talk Because you want to keep Dyson
Daniels.
He might be the one player, ina weird way, that you want to
keep more than anyone.

Speaker 1 (02:10:18):
Yeah, I don't want to like talk the Giannis Hawks
trade.
I'm just simply saying, likecomparing bringing Austin Reeves
in to be a part of the programversus if you bring Giannis in,
he becomes the program Correct.
Yeah, it's two totallydifferent types of moves to

(02:10:39):
where, when I say yeah, you, you, you consider giving up Trey
for Giannis because obviouslyGiannis is better than Trey.
Yeah, but like you don't wantto give up Trey yet you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:10:51):
Right, but the cap becomes.
The thing is that the cap's thesame, which is why I said
that's why I was like, no, Iwouldn't trade for Austin Reeves
because of that alone, becausethe cap's the same.

Speaker 1 (02:11:03):
I'm just looking at the roster construction as in
him being a secondary ballhandler and 20-point scorer.

Speaker 2 (02:11:12):
But then you're giving up Dyson, you're giving
up.
The Lakers are like, yeah, weneed Dyson Daniels, and you
probably, in a weird way, theHawks would probably have to be
the ones coming up off a pick,and it's like, nah, I'm straight
on it.

Speaker 1 (02:11:30):
I wasn't.
I was only talking about abasketball fit, not a contract.
Sure, yeah, he works.
I'm just meaning just abasketball fit, like if he's a
free agent next year and theHawks can shuffle the money
right, would he be a good guy tofit.

Speaker 2 (02:11:49):
You want to know who he would go to who?

Speaker 1 (02:11:53):
Detroit, that wouldn't be bad.

Speaker 2 (02:11:57):
You'd have him as the secondary ball handler with
Cade, you'd have a pretty bigbackcourt.

Speaker 1 (02:12:02):
That's why I want Brad Beal to go when he gets
bought out.
You know we didn't dwell enoughon Dame getting waived.
You know we didn't dwell enoughon Dame getting waved.
Uh, and I didn't like in the,the, the nigga social media
stuff.
Oh, Dame, show loyalty bycoming out and playing in the

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playoffs for them to waive him.
He's getting paid all of hismoney and he can go sign another
contract.
They did him a favor.
He didn't want to be there.
He still gets all the money,like he.
Just what?

Speaker 2 (02:12:38):
signed an extension last year yeah, he's gonna get
all the money and he can pickliterally wherever he wants
signed, just like russell wilsondid with the steelers, except
his was just for one year.
He's gonna get all that moneyand it's always gonna offset, no
matter where he goes.
He could sign a four-year $4million contract with the

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Warriors and he will still begetting paid all the money that
Milwaukee owes him.
I believe the Warriors are theteam that's going to sign him.
That's who I think is going toget him.

Speaker 1 (02:13:07):
Or he could go sign a bullshit one-year One.
He could just sit out this year, watch everything happen next
year and pick a team and then,when he picks a team, he could
sign this summer.
Or he could sign next year aone-year deal.

(02:13:27):
Or he could do a two-year dealwhere he's not getting paid that
much money because the idea ishe has one year to go prove it.
Nick, not just upcoming season,but the following season, the
2027 season.
He go out there and ball andthen he can go get him another
2025 meal if he wants to,because I mean because of his

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age, he you know, we don't knowwhen the fall off is going to
happen, but like he can go getthem a two-year 50.

Speaker 2 (02:13:55):
So this is what I think is going to happen with
him specifically.
I don't think he signs thissummer.
I think that around all-starbreak, when buyouts and stuff
are happening, people are goingto monitor how his progression
is and from there he'll pick ateam, you know, if he even has a
chance to come back this year.
Let's say he does.
Let's say he heals fast.

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He'll pick a team, might be apart of a playoff run if he's
healthy.
I think he's got to be 100%.

Speaker 1 (02:14:27):
He has to be confident when he goes to the
gym and he's shooting andplaying pickup, not just healthy
enough to play, but enough tobe dame, because if he's not,
healthy enough to be dame hedoesn't need to come back and
the opportunity has to be there.

Speaker 2 (02:14:40):
Let's say somebody goes down like I mean, obviously
I hope this isn't the case, butlet's say, let's say it's the
lakers.
Let's say austin ruse does uhhurt himself, or luca, even one
of those guys hurts themselves.
He's healthy and he can do it.
And they sign him for the restof the season.
Post also break because theLakers are.
They're currently 48 and 20.

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And he can get in there and bea part of something, show that
he's obviously healthy and it'sstill the same 25, 7, and 4 guy
that he was before he gotinjured.
I don't like that.
Then it opens him up to wherehe still is getting paid by the
Bucs, but then also his marketbecomes even more robust because

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you know he's healthy.

Speaker 1 (02:15:31):
And what he can do and what I would do if I were
him.
I consider, if I want to win aring, I'd consider taking a
team-friendly deal, but I wouldnot.

Speaker 2 (02:15:44):
I think that's what he does anyways but like you're
gonna get paid by milwaukee onceyou know that I'm healthy.

Speaker 1 (02:15:50):
I'm not taking the minimum, though, because what I
think a lot of people don'tunderstand and this can get into
the LeBron conversation of himopting in especially when you're
part of a union, when you are acontributor at a certain level,
you can't take less, even if itmakes sense for your team,

(02:16:13):
because you now get slottedthere, but then you also slot
other people there movingforward.
So when people say, oh, ifLeBron really wanted to win, he
would just take the minimum.
He's an all-NBA player.
He can't take the minimum.
You can't be second teamall-NBA.
The minimum I understand he's40.

Speaker 2 (02:16:34):
And he's already paid well.

Speaker 1 (02:16:35):
And he's a billionaire.

Speaker 2 (02:16:37):
Outside of basketball .
He makes plenty.

Speaker 1 (02:16:39):
Yeah, but he does.
Kevin Durant, steph Curry,chris Paul, russell Westbrook,
james Harden, he does all ofthese guys who are stars, who
are still playing at a higherlevel than expected at their age
.
It's a disservice by takingthat low contract, because then

(02:17:01):
you can go to Kevin Durant afterthis re-up he just did.
Hey, kev, we want to keep youaround and we know that you are
a max-level player, but you seewhat LeBron did, and we know
that you are a max level player,but you see what LeBron did,
and if LeBron did it, everybodyelse has to do it.

Speaker 2 (02:17:21):
And even when people bring up Brady because Brady's a
similar type of player in asense of he made plenty of money
outside of football, to wherehe did take less money, but he
never took minimum money LikeTom Brady, never fucking took
minimum money.
And somebody could even, forargument's sake, they can bring
up Aaron Rodgers this year.
Aaron Rodgers, I didn't thinkAaron Rodgers was as bad as

(02:17:42):
everybody said he was.
Aaron Rodgers knows that thisis his swan song, like this is
it for him.
There isn't going to be anothercontract after this.
His career is going to be doneafter this year.
So he can sign for $10 millionwith the Steelers because this
is it.

Speaker 1 (02:17:56):
But Aaron Rodgers also isn't producing at the same
level that LeBron is producingin the district.
Lebron is top 10 in the league.
Aaron.

Speaker 2 (02:18:10):
Rodgers didn't have much options.
The Steelers were.
In terms of him, he could havewent to New Orleans, maybe, but
in terms of him going to acontender, that was the only
option.
I don't even know if, but aplayoff type team, that was the
only option.

Speaker 1 (02:18:25):
Yeah.
So it's just a lot of thisstuff is layered.
And then you get into the ringculture conversation that we
touched on last week and thensaying how LeBron has his agent
come out and say that he wantsto win, but then he takes this
money.
It's way more nuanced than that.
Lebron saying that ring cultureis problematic doesn't negate

(02:18:55):
him wanting to win championships.
He's just saying when youevaluate players, y'all take too
much of this ring shit.
When you're talking about howgood somebody is, period.
I still want to win ringsbecause I want to win
championships.
I like being on good teams.
I like the feel of achampionship.

Speaker 2 (02:19:15):
That's the love of the game.
That's what we play for.

Speaker 1 (02:19:18):
Right Period.
I'm worth more than $50 milliona year to the Lakers.
They're going to pay me my 53.
Period.
I want to win a championship.
Still, you know, I mean likethese are all independent

(02:19:39):
sentences that make up theparagraph of lebron james
playing for the lakers next yearand they can all exist together
and you can understand how onecan take away from another
because you're not fullyinvested into just one track,
and I think we missed that assports fans, that you can't
expect an athlete, aprofessional athlete who gets

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paid to play a sport, to dothings that go against his
earning potential.
You know what I mean, even ifit's about winning?

Speaker 2 (02:20:19):
Well, they're not.
It's not all mutually exclusive.

Speaker 1 (02:20:21):
Right, Like, yeah, everybody knows that you, you,
you, you get your after yoursecond contract is when you try
to win in the NBA.
That's just how it works.
You want to build, you want toget your stats up high enough,
build your name up high enoughto where you get paid at a
certain level, and then you gotry to win.
Fans are like, hey, no, we tryto win championships now.

(02:20:44):
No, no, we don't.

Speaker 2 (02:20:47):
But that's why Kevin Durant is Kevin Durant.
He's a perfect example of it.
After his second contract hewent through the best possible
case scenario and they paid hisass.
He didn't take a fuckingdiscount to go to Golden State.
They had the cap space to payhim because all them guys were
still on their second contracts.
Steph, specifically, his secondcontract was bullshit at the

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time because he was alwaysinjured.

Speaker 1 (02:21:11):
It was a perfect storm for him to be able to do
it anyways, because Steph's maxwasn't what his max should have
been.

Speaker 2 (02:21:18):
It wasn't a max period he's about 40 or 44.

Speaker 1 (02:21:21):
You know what I'm saying.
Even his max after that was adifferent number.
Because you know the NBA isweird where, like, if you get a
second contract at one number,your max is not as high as the
nigga who got the rookie max.
Like it's just weird yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:21:41):
And that's why I'm pulling this up.
If KD doesn't even make thefinals these next two years, I
don't want to hear him in atop-five convo ever again.
Not win it.
Make it Ring.
Chaser Snake said shut up, drew, nobody cares that you exist no
no, he's right, becauseQuestion for you.

(02:22:04):
Yeah, does Katie think it saidnobody cares that you told him
to shut up Nobody cares?
He told him to shut up, nobodycares you exist.
He wasn't lying.
He's not lying about it.

Speaker 1 (02:22:23):
For your eye test.
I'm not saying where you rankhim amongst greatest players,
because I think the accoladesand all of that stuff matters.
Right Best I've seen.
We're talking about justbasketball players that you've
seen.
He's top five.
There's nothing else he needsto do.
That's going to change how Ifeel about him, unless he's

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doing this shit at 42.

Speaker 2 (02:22:45):
He's probably top three that I've seen.
I would probably behind Kobeand LeBron.
I'd probably put KD third seenI would probably behind Kobe and
LeBron.
I'd probably put KD third.

Speaker 1 (02:22:52):
Kevin Durant had the best basketball performance I've
seen in person.

Speaker 2 (02:23:01):
He's literally and I know we probably said this
within the last two months heliterally is Aaron Rodgers.
He's like the Aaron Rodgers ofthe NBA.

Speaker 1 (02:23:09):
Yeah, bro, let me tell you something.
I was at a Hawks and I probablytold this story to you a
thousand times and told it onthis pod a thousand times but I
was at a Hawks-Thunder game 2014.
And the Thunder went by 10.
10-ish, right, but the scorewent from like 4 to 16, 18 type

(02:23:35):
shit throughout, right.
When it got to like 4 or 6,anytime the Hawks would get on a
run, kd would end it and youcould just like just watching
the game.
You watched him just end runs.
Not like he scored a 30, but itwas a pointed 30.

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It's like the box score doesn'ttell you how good this 30 was,
because Joe get to cooking Jeffout here, ah ah ah.
Katie, come down three Mitty,ah ah.
Russ starts to do his Russ shitand playing, like you know,
1,000 miles per hour.
Turn the ball over.

Speaker 2 (02:24:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:24:15):
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, come here, come here, Right
here.
Easy money sniper.
And just the way that I watchedhim control that game and keep
the lead where he wascomfortable with it at, and you
could tell that, oh, they'regetting too close, they're
getting too confident, let mekill the crowd real quick and

(02:24:37):
then let me do it again.

Speaker 2 (02:24:39):
after I kill this shot and then they miss, and
then I come down, I make anotherone.
It's time for Woody to call atimeout.

Speaker 1 (02:24:46):
Right, let me hit this three real quick.
Like, let me go on a KD 8-0.
Run three real quick.

Speaker 2 (02:24:51):
Let me go on a KD 8-0 run In a matter of a minute 12.

Speaker 1 (02:24:55):
Yeah, and watching him strategically do it
throughout the game, you go oh,this nigga ain't just good.
He's good and smart, Kind oflike Trey.
You know he's tactical.
Yeah, like you remember theplayoff game we went to that we
lost.

Speaker 2 (02:25:13):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (02:25:15):
Some of those threes that Trey missed.
He understood the gravity ofwhat that make was, like he's
not just out there killing theseniggas, he's thinking about
killing these niggas and playingthe crowd against them, like
really orchestrating the game.
Which is why Trey Young ishigher for me than some other
guys, because, no, I've watchedhim live.

(02:25:36):
I've watched him conduct theentire arena in a playoff game
and lose Like fuck.
Winning Like I just watched.
He controlled that entire gamemore than Embiid, more than Ben
Simmons, before he lost himselfyou know what I'm saying More
than any of his other teammates.
Like it's crazy.
I've seen LeBron do that too,but it was Lakers LeBron, so he

(02:25:58):
just wasn't as good as KD was atthat point in his career.

Speaker 2 (02:26:04):
And I hate to go back to LeBron when he was talking
with Steve Nash, but he doesn'thave the bag that KD has and I
mean that's okay.
It doesn't mean that he's stillthe all-time leading scorer.
He's still, on paper, the bestplayer of all time.
Like I don't think it takesaway from him, but he doesn't.
He doesn't have the skill setthat Kevin Durant has.
It is what it is.
I've seen Kevin Durant too.

(02:26:26):
Just to piggyback on whatyou're saying.
Really quick story.
Obviously he was amazing atTexas.
It's kind of crazy.
And then Malik Beasley, thevery next year, was doing a lot
of similar shit in Kansas State.
Yeah, michael Beasley.

Speaker 1 (02:26:41):
Crash house.

Speaker 2 (02:26:43):
Well, good thing I didn't say Vic, but anyway.

Speaker 1 (02:26:46):
Hey, shout out to Vic Beasley man, great event that
you threw the other week, that Italked about last week.
But I just wanted to just giveVic another shout-out.

Speaker 2 (02:26:55):
Shout-out to him, yeah, that dares me Elzone, but
KD, you know, I got to see allthat and I was privileged enough
to actually see Kevin Durantplay at Phillips Arena in a
Seattle Superstar jersey.
The one game that they came, itwas Kevin Durant's first, it
was his first game winner.
The one game that they came, itwas Kevin Durant's first, it
was his first game winner.

Speaker 1 (02:27:14):
The first game he ever made was against the Hawks.
Just put it on the table andtell us how big you are.

Speaker 2 (02:27:20):
It didn't mean I was a kid, I was 13 or 12 or 14,
something in that range, but Iwas privileged enough.
Thankfully, my mom.
She enjoys sports just like we.
That's why we always hadtickets, but we had Hawks
tickets.
I got to see Kevin Durant playhis rookie year and he made a
game winner in that game.
It was his first career gamewinner.

(02:27:40):
I'll never forget it Because hewas a buzzer beater.
It wasn't just a game winner,it was a fucking buzzer beater.
Remember the Sonic weren't verygood.
But I guess at the time thehawks weren't either, for what
it's worth.
I mean, it was two badbasketball teams, uh.
But joe johnson was there, wehad him.
You know he's giving you 24 anight, but kevin durant came

(02:28:00):
down and I just remember howspecial it was even to watch
shit like that at that time.
And you know he's he don't haveno facial hair, he's skinnier
like, but it's crazy to see thatshit.
And it's like even today he'slike.
You know he's got trolls, butit's crazy to see that shit.
And it's like even today he'sgot trolls like this on Twitter.
People really forget who thisnigga is, because the nigga
that's trolling him is like 20.

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And he didn't really watchKevin Durant play.

Speaker 1 (02:28:23):
And it goes into LeBron's conversation about ring
culture.
Niggas will beat up KevinDurant for Phoenix not working
27 a game on 40, 50, 90.
It's not his fault.
They're losing.
I don't have to watchbasketball to say that.
Oh, the guy who has highshooting percentages and scores

(02:28:45):
27 points a game and doesn'tshoot a lot of shots, he's not
the reason this team is losing.

Speaker 2 (02:28:51):
Well, because they're acting like it's Oklahoma City
Thunder.
Westbrook post-KD triple-double, 41% from the field for the
season.
They're acting like 30% fromthree.
They're acting like it's that.
That's not conducive of winningwhen it's like, no, this is a

(02:29:11):
badly constructed team, uh Iplayed, they traded all their
assets.
For a guy that gosh I mean, he'son a milk carton book is doing
all he can do, but because ofhow, what, the role I play on
the team, it's honestly just notreally that good of a fit
anyways no, but he gotta to gethis too, because you know he can

(02:29:33):
get $75 million a year as longas he just does what he's
supposed to do.
By the way, we have a differentcoach every year.
I mean, like there's so muchstuff, we don't have a fucking
big that can do anything downhere.
But yeah, oh, by the way, we'rein the Western Conference.
That doesn't help either.
Like you know, if the Suns werein the East they would have

(02:29:55):
been a playing team.
Hell they might have been.
They weren't better than thePistons, but like they're a
playing team, they would haveprobably beat the Magic low key.

Speaker 1 (02:30:08):
But KD shows up, gets his 27, and then some dumb
nigga on the Internet says KevinDurant, sucks what.
You're playing Josh Holseygames here.
You're a bot.
You're not even doing no, no,no, no, You're not even reading
the box score.

Speaker 2 (02:30:28):
You are.
He's looking at Hater Centralon fucking Twitter.

Speaker 1 (02:30:32):
You know.
And then he's like man.
Let me say something too.
I almost want to say he'slooking at hater central on
fucking twitter, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:30:33):
And then he's like let me say something too.

Speaker 1 (02:30:35):
I almost want to say he's pulling a julian turner.
You know how like?
Julian turner will come to thegroup text with a steven a take
and he'll adopt it as his own,and not like saying that he's
like biting a steven a take,it's just he's agreeing with it.

Speaker 2 (02:30:49):
That's the problem right, but he's like uh, there's
no change in his mind yeah,you're sold on this for whatever
yeah, you're sitting there.

Speaker 1 (02:30:57):
You're like julian, this is a bad take, like this is
bad, like this is.

Speaker 2 (02:31:05):
This is a rating stake, bro hey, just because
we're here on it, literally,literally, this just popped up.
So report the Rockets, suns,lakers, hawks, nets, warriors
and Timberwolves are in tradetalks to expand the KD trade to
a seven-team deal.
Now, this would be the largesttrade in terms of teams in NBA

(02:31:25):
history.
But I guess the curiosity wouldbe how are they making this
work?
Because who do we get?
I guess Nikhil would be.
That's interesting.
A seven-team deal?
I don't even know.
Maybe it makes, I don't know itmakes sense for some reason, for
them to make it a trade.

Speaker 1 (02:31:42):
Make the money work, because I know, like the Rockets
, they don't have the full capspace for Dorian Finney-Smith.
Hey, shout out to Rob Palenkafor being a slimy bastard.

Speaker 2 (02:31:58):
Trying to take his stock.
He's got a knee issue.
You know you guys can go aheadif you want, but we're not.
He's got a knee issue, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:32:10):
Hey, Dorian, here's our offer.
Take it or leave it.
Hey, do not sign, Dorian.
His knee's fucked up man.
He ain't really rocking withhim.
He couldn't have thought thatwas going to work.

Speaker 2 (02:32:26):
Could he At this point nobody wants to do
business with the Lakers.
You know, you guys, you makeRob Palenka at this point out to
be me in the fantasy league,somebody nobody wants to do
business with us.

Speaker 1 (02:32:36):
Well, call me Nico Harrison, because I do good
business with you all the time.
Yeah, you do, but I'm justsaying I talk bad about you as a
fantasy owner and I regularlytrade with you and you know I
don't trade, I really only tradewith you.
I'm always I'm you, I reallyonly trade with you.

Speaker 2 (02:32:54):
I don't.
I'm always I'm a fair guy.
I think I'm fair.
I don't.
I don't beat people over thatlike jp will beat somebody over
the head you know why you get abad rap?

Speaker 1 (02:33:05):
for because I win no, no, no, no, it's not that.
It's because the initial offeryou send over is always such
bullshit I don't bullshitinitial offers.

Speaker 2 (02:33:17):
I just went in the pot but like no, no, no, I don't
do what julian does jude saidjude will send you a deal where,
if you've got um, I don't know,jude will send you a deal
without a text but I'm justsaying you could have Derrick
Henry and he wants him and thenhe'll like try and trade you

(02:33:37):
Tyler Algier and Kyle Pitts.
It's just like Jewel.
No, but I don't send those typeof deals.

Speaker 1 (02:33:46):
I don't send those type of deals.
I was trying to get JameerGibbs from him last year and he
was like I want Bijan.
I was trying to get JameerGibbs from him last year and he
was like I want Bijan and I'mlike no, no.

Speaker 2 (02:34:01):
That defeats the whole purpose of me trading for
Gibbs.

Speaker 1 (02:34:06):
Because, you know, my roster at one point was
receiver heavy and I didn't haverunning backs.
My running back room is offlimits because I'm trying to
build my running back room.

Speaker 2 (02:34:16):
I need to add somebody to it.
I need at least two.
I gotta have at least two.

Speaker 1 (02:34:21):
Pick a receiver that you want, or pick a quarterback,
because I got three on theroster right now that are
starters that are putting upgood numbers.

Speaker 2 (02:34:33):
I do that trade early in the year?
Yeah, Because we made anargument after week three Monday
night after that game.

Speaker 1 (02:34:39):
Yeah, you remember I was 0-3.
So when I went 0-2, I'm workingbecause I got to.
I'm a stalwart in our leagueand me not being good is
problematic.

Speaker 2 (02:34:57):
You're saying it's bad for the league.

Speaker 1 (02:35:00):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 (02:35:01):
It is, you know, like granted, can't have guys like
you know gambles winning games.

Speaker 1 (02:35:10):
Bro, I lost a gamble.
Bro, I lost a game with theMatt Flowers.

Speaker 2 (02:35:15):
Matt can't be two and one, and then you're all in
three, that's a bad look.

Speaker 1 (02:35:20):
We've got to shake this roster up.
And it worked out, it workedout and granted.
Granted.
I don't care what anybody says.
You know this.
I was not on the stream for thedraft because I was at dinner.
My mom made dinner plans thatnight and did not tell me about
them until it was a little bittoo late.

(02:35:41):
Well, I wasn't locked in.

Speaker 2 (02:35:42):
I was not locked in on the draft well, look, we all
know that the draft is sunday.
I don't know, and actually youdon't know, what the issue was.
It wasn't just that josh is theone that pushed it back.
It got pushed three hours yeah,and if he had to work like
there's nothing we can like?
I understand that he had towork.

Speaker 1 (02:35:59):
It was a legitimate, acceptable reason to push the
draft back and I could not comeout and say, hey, I have dinner
plans with a family friend.
Uh, no, josh, you're at work.
Fuck you like.

Speaker 2 (02:36:14):
That's not a legitimate pushback yeah, and we
didn't want to do it too late,and I certainly push it even
another day to no, we did onelabor day.

Speaker 1 (02:36:22):
Nobody wants to do that, and so and it's hard and
like for our draft.
It's hard because we stream thedraft and the majority of the
league shows up for it and wehave lives, wives, kids, jobs.
It's difficult to get everybodyon a stream together.

Speaker 2 (02:36:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:36:40):
Which is why we love the wedding so much, because it
did the difficult job of gettingus together and shout out to
those beautiful unions, did he?

Speaker 2 (02:36:54):
Free.
Oh, you got a song you shouldbe playing right now.
Oh yeah, to bring us intoculture hour here.
We're going to get into Diddy,obviously, and then also Love
Island, which I know that thisshould really surprise a lot of
people.
We got to definitely chop upthe Love Island clip.

(02:37:14):
Oh yeah, because that'll thefact that two dudes are talking.

Speaker 1 (02:37:19):
I'm playing the original video, not the Poggeboy
version.
That's fine.
My nigga be killing that shit.

Speaker 2 (02:37:39):
Hey, hey, hey.
When the nigga hit this, look,Whoop Rico.
And look, and that is exactlywhat Diddy did he whooped Rico.
He beats the Rico case.
He beats both sex traffickingcases.
They ding him on theprostitution cases Cases.
They ding him on theprostitution charges.

Speaker 1 (02:38:03):
But hey, let's be real.
Nobody changes their thoughtsand views of a billionaire who
gets busted for prostitution,especially one that's not
married.

Speaker 2 (02:38:14):
he's not even cheating his wife and, and I
think that anyone that paidattention to the trial I don't
condone his behavior by anymeans, but anyone that paid
attention to the trial.
He wasn't on trial for whoopingcassie's ass.
That's not what the trial wasabout.
It's terrible that he did itScum, but Cassie was complicit

(02:38:36):
with everything else too, nothim whooping her ass.
And, yeah, you could say, well,he's using that to coerce her
to do it, but she was based ontestimonies.
It sounds like Cassie enjoyedthis stuff too.
That's why she fucked him whileshe was in a relationship and
went back over on her own meritand admitted it.

Speaker 1 (02:38:58):
She loves Sean.
I do think that there is somestuff that happens to people who
are in abusive relationshipsthat Cassie showed Even her
going back to him.
I do think some of that couldbe remnants of his abuse.
We can't prove that.
I think Diddy is a nasty niggawho's done some terrible things.

Speaker 2 (02:39:21):
Yeah he's a freak.

Speaker 1 (02:39:23):
And I don't condone his.
I don't condone it.
But like he got charged withthe wrong crimes almost you know
what I mean Because got chargedwith the wrong crimes.
Almost you know what I meanBecause it's similar but
different to Tory Lanez.
People talk about the ToryLanez thing, about Tory shooting
Meg.
He did not.

(02:39:45):
He's not in prison for shootingMegan Thee Stallion, he's in
prison for shooting a gun.
Was he guilty of that?
Sure, maybe I don't know I gunis he?
Was he guilty of that?
Sure, maybe I don't know.
I mean he was guilty.
Yes, did he actually shoot thegun traditionally at her?
We don't know, but nonethelesshe was found guilty of
discharging a firearm.
It didn't matter if he shot Megor not, if she lied or not, the

(02:40:11):
gun was shot.
They said he did it.
It's like Plexiglas Burris.
It didn't matter if he shot megor not, if she lied or not, the
gun was shot.
They said he did it, we did.
It's like plexiglas right withdiddy we're, we're.
We want him to go down becauseof what he did to cassie and
this nasty stuff that he did.
But what gets played out is hemay have groomed cassie, he may
have grown Cassie, but shewanted to live this lifestyle

(02:40:35):
with him and like there was aquote where she even said Like
Jay-Z's married, like where elsedo I go?
Well, you're signing up for thebad things that come with these
good things.
And Illegal, legal, illegal,cool, whatever.
But accountability has to bepointed On both ends.
Legal, illegal, cool, whatever,but accountability has to be
pointed on both ends.

(02:40:57):
Because, hey, the casting couchis disgusting, it's wrong, but
it exists.
And if somebody chooses to be onthe casting couch, don't cry
victim later on, because Because, yes, you are a victim, you are
.
But when you make that decisionto go on the casting couch and

(02:41:22):
do those things To me, you'vesaid that what I can get from
this is more important than thethings that I'm willing to do,
that my morals, my values, allof that stuff, and that's fine.
You are a victim, but you choseto put yourself in this

(02:41:42):
situation and stay in thissituation.
So, therefore, I don't thinkyou should be treated like the
victim who you know, like theperson who's actually on set,
and somebody comes up behindthem and just bends them over
and like humps them right.
That's totally different,because you didn't sign up for
that, you didn't agree to be inthis relationship that's not

(02:42:05):
evenly yoked, or whatever thefuck you want to call it.
I don't know.
I feel like I'm talking toomuch.

Speaker 2 (02:42:10):
No, diddy, at the end of the day, again, he could be
a horrific person.
He might be a sucky fuckingboss.

Speaker 1 (02:42:19):
I mean, there's a lot of things.

Speaker 2 (02:42:19):
you could call him A sex trafficker, and the head of
racketeering is neither, andthat's, at the end of the day,
that's why I went to court.
He was found not guilty onthose two things.
Um, when, when I I put this inour group chat, uh, the other

(02:42:42):
day, randomly, because I justthought about it before any of
this had officially been hadcome down, but I said, man,
there's so many guys that can beconsidered sex traffickers.
If we're using this as thebasis based on the law and the
wording, it's a lot of dudesthat are sex traffickers,
because plenty of people pay forpee and send it over straight

(02:43:03):
lines and you can get themfederally for that.

Speaker 1 (02:43:07):
But think about this, not the actual actions in the
freak offs and all that stuffthat did he was doing right.
But if I look at our friendgroup and one of us is Diddy, a
lot of that stuff he did weprobably do now we'd go about it

(02:43:30):
differently.
It would definitely be moreparty friendly and, like Bro,
I'm not putting my hands on thefloor.

Speaker 2 (02:43:36):
What would be any of the freak stuff?
You're saying the motion?

Speaker 1 (02:43:41):
Yeah, but like having Flying people in, yeah that's
what I said, motion.
Party favors being there which,if you throw the party and you
provide the party favors, that'stechnically distribution right
Could be.

Speaker 2 (02:43:57):
Yeah, depending on how you want to read it.

Speaker 1 (02:43:59):
But you're not a.
You ain't no drug dealer,you're just somebody setting the
vibes for a party.

Speaker 2 (02:44:05):
Yeah, just like if I buy a ton of liquor and booze,
I'm not a liquor, it's not aliquor store.

Speaker 1 (02:44:14):
I'm not selling.
I'm not a liquor.
It's not a liquor store.
No, I'm not selling.
I'm not bootlegging, like no.
And if you plot like we don'tdo this now because we just
don't have the stupid dumb money, but if we're billionaires,
what is it to be?
Like, hey, I want y'all to comethrough and I'm gonna pay y'all
to come through because you'renot going to work.
So I'm replacing the money.

(02:44:36):
I'm making it worth your whileyou want to be here.
I'm giving you no excuse.
Exactly, could I see thathappening amongst my friend
group, yeah, so, and not evenjust my friend group myself,
like I ain't no trick, but Ispend money like I'm hanging out

(02:45:01):
with a girl, like I'm gonnamake it worth your time.

Speaker 2 (02:45:03):
So like, yeah, like yeah, and that was just the
biggest thing.

Speaker 1 (02:45:10):
I thought that came out of this all, I'll fill up
your gas tank.

Speaker 2 (02:45:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:45:16):
If we happen to have sex, I didn't pay.
I gave you money, but I didn'tpay you for sex.

Speaker 2 (02:45:24):
I paid you to come here, have a good time and to
make sure that you weren'tmissing out on anything for
being here, Bingo, because Iwanted you here Exactly, you
wanted to be here too.
That's why you came, like youcame because of that, and so,
whoa, double entendre thereAlways, man, sure.

(02:45:48):
And so in his case, though Ithink that you know they showed
the reactions.
I forgot if you sent it to meor if it was just in the group,
but like Boosie coming out was.
You know, I just don't likeBoosie personally, all the swag
surfing and shit at Hawks games.
It's a real distraction to whatDarryl is really supposed to be

(02:46:11):
there for?

Speaker 1 (02:46:12):
Hey, let's not shit on Boosie.

Speaker 2 (02:46:14):
I'm not shitting on him, it's just.

Speaker 1 (02:46:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:46:16):
I mean, I've never been a fan of his music either,
but he comes out his whole.

Speaker 1 (02:46:20):
I'm working on a Boosie interview, by the way, so
I don't necessarily like Boosieslander on the platform.

Speaker 2 (02:46:26):
Well, this can be cut out of.
I mean cut out of.
I mean it sucks that this wouldbe considered the last episode.
But maybe he won't listen tothis portion.
I don't think it'll get to him,but no.

Speaker 1 (02:46:45):
I'll tell you about that when we talk on the phone
about life.
Remind me to tell you aboutthat one day.

Speaker 2 (02:46:49):
Will do.
But when it comes down to him,even for just what he said, the
base of what he said, he'sgetting tired of seeing
basically these black moguls,which I thought it was just like
the way he said it.
He could have worded it better,and that's okay.
Most people can word a lot ofthings better.
But, like I got the point.
The point is that, hey, if thiswas semi-white, this wouldn't

(02:47:15):
be happening.

Speaker 1 (02:47:18):
I mean, that was the point of it, though.
He called Yachty a racist andthey said here's what we're
going to do, we're going toexpose you.
Similar to Deshaun Watson,right.

Speaker 2 (02:47:29):
Kind of humiliating.

Speaker 1 (02:47:30):
Yeah, we're just going to humiliate and expose
you.
I'm I, bro.
The Houston Texans knew whatDeshaun Watson was doing.
They just didn't care while hewas wanted to play there.
And then, after Cal McNair saidto the the, the inmates running
the asylum or whatever, he waslike yeah, no, I'm tired of this
shit, get me out of here.
Okay, you want out?

Speaker 2 (02:47:52):
We got you that, and then they needed to preserve his
value too.
I mean, that being a big part,they're like, no, we gotta get
something for this.
And so, because he's tootalented, like yeah, talented,
um, but yeah, I'm yeah.
I'm indifferent about the idea.
I think that, again, dueprocess, the law is not always

(02:48:18):
right, but at the end of the day, it's what we use as our
judgment system.
And, at the end of the day, hegot what he's going to get and
we'll get to see in October howmany years that will be, if any
at that, because a lot of peopleseem to believe that it's only
going to be tops, 18 to 24months, and he's going to get
time served, which will be abouta year, about a time that's

(02:48:40):
there, but he could just gettime served and probation and
that be it.
But this is fed time, remembertoo.
He's not going to get the max,though they're not going to give
him 20 years.
He's not going to get the max,though they're not going to give
him 20 years.

Speaker 1 (02:48:55):
You got me for For prostitution?
I don't even think.
I don't even think Prostitutionshould be For one.
I don't think it should beillegal.
By the way, I don't care howyou feel about it morally.
That's between you and yourmorals and you can stand on that

(02:49:15):
.
But legally I don't thinkprostitution should be illegal.
That's controlling women'sbodies If a guy wants to pay her
to screw her or controllingpeople's bodies in general.
If somebody wants to pay forsex, they should be able to pay
for sex.

Speaker 2 (02:49:30):
Yeah, whether it's a whore or a gigolo, I mean
they're one and the same.
But you know the male term isgigolo.

Speaker 1 (02:49:36):
So and because I think there is a level, like you
still got to pick each otherright, like I don't think a, a a
sex worker should have to havesex with whoever's willing to
pay.
I think they should just beallowed to have sex with the
people who are willing, who wantto have sex with, who are

(02:49:59):
willing to pay them.

Speaker 2 (02:50:01):
Right, if you go to a strip club, a stripper might
think, no, I don't want to dancewith you.

Speaker 1 (02:50:09):
It doesn't matter if I'm spending money.
If she doesn't want to dancewith me, she shouldn't dance
with me, and I don't feel likeshe has to.

Speaker 2 (02:50:17):
And that's why the club manager or security will
walk over and be like she saysshe doesn't want to dance with
you, and then they'll strong armyou and get your ass out of
there.

Speaker 1 (02:50:26):
But they're not pimps .

Speaker 2 (02:50:28):
So you know.

Speaker 1 (02:50:35):
Hey, have you ever got caught touching strippers by
security at a strip club?
That's like actually strictabout touching the strippers.

Speaker 2 (02:50:39):
I've never been approached like that, no, but I
know that there are strip clubswhere you can't Most that I've
gone to always you can.

Speaker 1 (02:50:47):
So, or at least if you can't, they don't be caring
like one way or another andPacers like security cares more
than the girls care, and onetime security was like hey, hey,
hey.

Speaker 2 (02:51:01):
I was like, oh shit, my bad Hands off the merchandise
.
Huh.

Speaker 1 (02:51:05):
Yeah, you know, looking back on it, I probably
should have took one of thosestrippers or two to the
champagne room.
I just could not in in my brainsign up for spending that much
money at that like it.
Just hey, here's 350 off top.

Speaker 2 (02:51:22):
yeah, I might throw 350 but then you had the tip in
there, right like like, let'sjust go get this $10, lab dance
man.
Yeah.
Yeah, a little bit ofexclusivity, though you know,
when we went to Cheetah, that'show that worked.
Cheetah's like that you can'ttouch a cheetah.
Yeah, I don't like cheetah.

(02:51:43):
I guess I didn't realize that.
I mean, that wasn't my firsttime at Cheetah, but it was like
I don't know.
I just didn't remember it beingthat way, but maybe they had
changed their rules.

Speaker 1 (02:51:53):
But of course we ended up being in a private room
and you know it was completelyfine, but um, you know, another
problem that I have is like,once I get to know the strippers
, I start to respect them.
It's like and I don't saythat's a problem, I just you
know you start to respect thosewomen and not treat them like
possible whores.

(02:52:13):
If that's a problem, I just youknow you start to respect those
women and not treat them likepossible whores, if that's who
they are well, in that the point.

Speaker 2 (02:52:23):
That's actually really what makes those um
encounters and trips to theseplaces worth it in my opinion I
don't want to go in there andjust throw money and then walk
out and say yeah, man there's abunch of ass and titties around
and I blew two, three, four,five, six thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (02:52:44):
But you know why I stopped going to the strip club
why is that?
well for one.
I was in monterey.
I didn't have one.
But then when Cindy and I gottogether I knew that for me in
the strip club I'm just notgoing in there to throw money
and look at ass and titties.
I want to get cool with acouple strippers in here.

(02:53:05):
I want them to be happy to seeme and come.
I'm giving my strippers mymoney.
It's counterproductive.
So I'm like, yeah, like if wego, like if me and the fellas go
to the strip club at a bachelorparty, yeah sure.
Or do strip club night.
But as a guy who used to, thestrip club was etched into the

(02:53:28):
schedule every weekend.
Yeah, no, oh, you were goinglike that In San Diego, bro,
there was a point that I wasgoing to the strip club probably
three days a week.

Speaker 2 (02:53:39):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (02:53:40):
Yeah, so I always went on Thursday.
That was just like my day,because that's the day that,
like all the weekend girls work.
But the weekend crowd's notthere and like the weekend crowd
, it'd be too much, bro, it'stoo many people in there.

Speaker 2 (02:53:58):
Yeah, it's never that fun going to any strip club on
the weekend like right.

Speaker 1 (02:54:02):
Like me as a regular who who's cool with certain
girls, I'm now not able to likekick it with them because it's
packed in here and they got tomake their money.

Speaker 2 (02:54:14):
I'm fine with going to a strip club on.
It can be a weekend, but it'sgot to be later.
It's kind of really my aftermove, so On the weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:54:31):
So Thursday would be like a strip club night, right
Like.

Speaker 2 (02:54:34):
I'm getting there Like that's their magic Mondays
Like that.

Speaker 1 (02:54:39):
So Monday was the night magic Monday.
They had industry night onMonday.
I didn't go to industry nighton Monday because there's too
much going on in there Tuesdayor Wednesday.
I might fall off in thereThursday.
I'm definitely going Likethat's the move, I'm putting on
sweatpants and slides and goingto the strip club.

(02:55:01):
Yeah, I'm saying Friday,saturday is I'm going to go out
and you know, at like 12, 30, 1o'clock, ain't shit hitting on
shit, you know what.
Let me just go into the stripclub for like the last 45
minutes.
Right, I might as well look atsome ass and tits for my last

(02:55:24):
drink.

Speaker 2 (02:55:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:55:26):
And then Sunday was like my wild card day, where I
never planned to go to the stripclub on Sunday, where I never
planned to go to the strip clubon Sunday.
But if I got like drunk and PBwhich I did a lot on Sundays I'm
like you know what, we can goto the strip club tonight, cause
it's going to be some goodtalent in there and and it's not

(02:55:47):
going to be packed.
You know, like I was coolsecurity, I didn't get checked,
no more, I just come in.
I ain't you know, like I wascool security, I didn't get
checked, no more, I just come in.
I ain't you know, I ain't sure,no idea, I'm dapping my man's
up.
What's good with you, good tosee you, big dog, and I'm in
there.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:56:08):
And sweat pants and slides a lot.
Yeah, it sounds like to me.
If you've been a regular, Idon't think you were going three
times a week.
That's oof, yeah, no.

Speaker 1 (02:56:19):
I was in a strip club a lot bro, but I was in a dark
spot in life, like I lied to you.

Speaker 2 (02:56:25):
You know about a lot of etiquette and culture in
there huh.

Speaker 1 (02:56:29):
I said you know about a lot of etiquette and culture
oh, bro, I learned that certainI had to start learning
schedules because we werecausing some problems in the
locker room.

Speaker 2 (02:56:49):
How's that.

Speaker 1 (02:56:51):
All right, they knew I came in with a fixed budget,
right, my tip money.
I'm usually going to the ATMbefore I go, but I got Navy
Federal, that's about $7.50 atleast, yeah, but.
Navy Federal pays your ATM feesto a certain every month.
Navy Federal pays your ATM feesto a certain every month.

(02:57:14):
I can get off getting money outof the ATM at the strip club
sometimes.
I'm going to pull out what I'mgoing to pull out, I'm going to
convert it to ones and aroundabout drink two or three.
Unless you're one of my girls,I'm not throwing anything,

(02:57:36):
unless you do some fly shit.
I'm just not throwing money yetlike, let me get.
Let me get comfortable.
So with them, knowing that II'm going to the atm one time
and I pretty much come in withthe same amount of money every
time and that's what I spend.
When you start spreading thepot around, you're taking money
out of someone else's pocket andthey understand that and that
creates issues and you have tolearn to.

(02:57:59):
So shift change was at 11.
You go to the strip club about9, 45, 10.
So you can catch your girl whoworks the early shift and the
late shift before your lateshift girl comes in yeah yeah,

(02:58:20):
bro, there's a lot of jugglinggoing on because, like, these
chicks will really get mad andlike try to have a conversation
with you about it's like.
Yo, we're not, I'm not havingthis talk with you.
Dog, I can give my money towhoever I want to give it to and
you're entitled to like havefeelings, but I don't have to

(02:58:40):
care about them.

Speaker 2 (02:58:44):
I, you know, and I plan to visit a strip club again
, obviously in life.

Speaker 1 (02:58:50):
Atlanta's just a shitty strip club city for a
regular nigga bro.

Speaker 2 (02:58:55):
Oh yeah, now.
Now you gotta be clocking someserious work.
I'm not proud of it.
There was one time I spent$2,000 at a strip club once and
this is how I did it.
You hit a big bet or whatever,but then you have your brother
have his bachelor party thereand then you're just brother

(02:59:15):
have his bachelor party thereand then you're just in the
giving mood.
But it's not one of thoseplaces that.
I'm not a big strip club guy.
I don't like going to stripclubs because I do think it's a
waste of money.
And I think back to times likethat, for instance Now granted
great time, we had a great time,but like what am I getting from

(02:59:36):
?
It is the biggest thing.

Speaker 1 (02:59:37):
The thing about the strip club is if you're a
regular it's not that bad in theright market.
So me in San Diego, like, themost I probably ever spent just
on strippers was maybe 400 bucksone night and I and like, but

(03:00:00):
my regular was pull out like 200, maybe throw a hundred, like
I'm not throwing, like I'm notgetting rid of $200 every time I
go to the strip club.
Yeah, you say you're goingthree times a week.
Yeah, yeah, I will.
I'm not even talking about thestrip club.
Yeah, you say you're goingthree times a week.

Speaker 2 (03:00:18):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not even talking about the booth.
Yeah, I spent a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (03:00:21):
It's a lot of fun to throw the hundred at once so
it's not just making it rain,but like just the the effect
like yeah, and then like whenyou like letting that shit go
crazy, like when you, whenyou're going crazy in there and
then the club is looking at youand then she's giving you some
good attention, or being aregular is so different, because

(03:00:45):
when you're going there on theweekends, it's niggas in there
who don't go to the strip cluband they're just happy to see
Shorty and they're hyping her upthey're going to spend shorty
and they hyping her up andthey're gonna spend as much as
they can, in a sense of becausethey want to impress, but then
at the same time they don't comethere.

Speaker 2 (03:01:02):
They're not regulars, so right yeah, it's not a it's
a, it's not.
It's not the tortoise in thehair no, and it is.

Speaker 1 (03:01:10):
And it's weird because, like, when you're cool,
when you're cool, the strippersbrother come up to you.
They, they hug you, talk to you.
You're sitting there, they'relosing money talking to you, and
then the niggas in the stripclub look at you kind of
differently too.
It's like, hey, man, relax,relax, I just been look here.

(03:01:33):
You don't want to be me.
I've paid too much for theserelationships.

Speaker 2 (03:01:41):
Yeah, it's a bunch of Anton Smiths going in there.
You know they're busting off a60-yarder.
Big play, big play, throwingbig.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Big play, meanwhile.
You know we're sitting there,we're snelling.
Jacquez Rodgers.
We're getting 12, 13, 14carries.
Anton's going to get four.

(03:02:02):
Now he's going to bust for 60on one of them.
We're going to slowly grind andget to that 60.

Speaker 1 (03:02:10):
You know, but they're coming in.
It's immediate, it's not a theyfeel like they've got an
impression to make and yeah,yeah, like I'm not here to make
an impression like y'all niggasgot fly.
I got on sweats and a hoodieand slides that and then that's
your.

Speaker 2 (03:02:29):
This is if, especially if it's a weekend.
This is this was your.
Hey.
Tonight we're going to stripclub Again.
For me, this is a part of thenight.
This was not the event of thenight.
This wasn't the only thing Ihad planned.

Speaker 1 (03:02:44):
No, I came here because I was at the bars and I
saw that I wasn't going to takeanything home.
So I'm like, hey, the night'snot over.
It's not looking good out heretonight.
You know what.
Let me go.
Let me go where.

Speaker 2 (03:03:01):
I'm loved, yeah, and speaking of love, I feel like
brother, love, we, we, we prettymuch I mean.
What do you think I guess?
Final guess here on how many?
What do you think he getssentenced to?

Speaker 1 (03:03:14):
They're going to try to expedite sentencing.
I think they're going to play alittle hard ball with that and
not make it as quickly as theyshould, and then he goes home
Like he's going to get sentencedto whatever, but he's going to
get time served.

Speaker 2 (03:03:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:03:28):
He gets that.

Speaker 2 (03:03:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:03:31):
Y'all got a face, did he?
Yeah, y' yeah, y'all got a face, diddy.
Yeah, y'all talking.
Yeah, he bite, he bite, which Idon't say now well, he's
brother love.

Speaker 2 (03:03:42):
But speaking of love, we got an island to talk about,
don't we?

Speaker 1 (03:03:48):
yeah, we do Love Island.
Wow, what a show.

Speaker 2 (03:03:57):
I see where the allure comes from for it.
I think it's just crazy becauseI had never heard of it and
obviously they had had multipleseasons and there's a UK version
.

Speaker 1 (03:04:07):
We had season seven.

Speaker 2 (03:04:10):
I know that's the wild part, but like I sit there,
my niece is.
Who convinces me to watch itwith her.
I watch it with my niece.
Now disclaimer for those outthere my niece is 20.
And so she's from a differentera.
At the end of the day, she's adifferent era than me.
So what I get out of watchingthe show with her.

Speaker 1 (03:04:32):
But I will say she's a mature 20-year-old, because
when we went and had lunch acouple weeks ago she hung out
with us and we didn't have todumb down the conversations to
keep her involved and engaged.

Speaker 2 (03:04:51):
Right and, to her credit, she's a working girl, so
she Whoa, whoa whoa.
Explain that Well, when I hercredit, she's a working girl.
Well, explain that when I sayworking, she has a job, she
works for Costco.
I know that, yeah, but sheforegoes school to go straight
into the workforce, which she'snot someone that likes school,

(03:05:11):
like that.
So I'm okay with it.
I think that she should go toschool.
It's just my opinion.

Speaker 1 (03:05:16):
But like at the same time, Well, yeah, because you're
a part of that disgustingracket of spending all this
money to go to college.

Speaker 2 (03:05:25):
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, but again, I guess itdepends on what you want to do.
It helps with more options, ismy opinion.
The more educated, the moreoptions.

Speaker 1 (03:05:33):
You know, I think college is a waste of time.

Speaker 2 (03:05:37):
It ultimately is, but it's more than just the
academia of it too.

Speaker 1 (03:05:41):
Stop kidding me, I'm not serious.

Speaker 2 (03:05:44):
Well, it's the relationships, all that.
That, to me, is the realimportant part yeah, no, yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:05:49):
That's why we're doing this podcast.

Speaker 2 (03:05:57):
I think kids should go to college, even if they're
going to drop out.
Yes, give it a try.

Speaker 1 (03:06:01):
Give it the old college try.
Literally it's like prom.
You should just at least go toprom at least one year.
I don't care if you don't havefun and you don't care about
none of that, you should just.

Speaker 2 (03:06:10):
Yeah, you don't post the pictures, Understood.
But With that show, becausewe're from different eras, it
gives me a different Honestlydifferent genders is that?
It gives me a different outlookof how she looks at it versus
how I look at it.
We're not trying to talk toomuch in between it because
there's no commercial breaks,obviously.

Speaker 1 (03:06:32):
We have Peacock, no commercials, huh, yeah, yeah, we
.
We have Peacock, no commercials, huh.

Speaker 2 (03:06:34):
Yeah, yeah, we watched it on Peacock and so but
the other part of it is is thatit's a show where you get to
dive into a relationship,although these relationships, I
guess, start two and a half,three weeks ago.
There's not a real foundationhere, but if placed in this

(03:06:56):
situation where apparently theydon't have their phones, they
can't communicate with theoutside world, so they don't
know how much famous they'regetting really online unless
they've watched the showpreviously, which I'm going to
guess maybe they had seen it.
I've never seen it, but I pickit up from whatever episode I
did.
I just start watching it Sunday, I believe, or Saturday, one of

(03:07:17):
the two.
I start watching the show and Iget the allure for the show
because it brings up thesesituations where people can say
how do you feel about this?
Is this a fucked up thing to do, especially when there's a
bunch of people playing a gamewhere you're trying to establish
connections or whatever, but atthe same time, the name of the

(03:07:37):
game is to stay in it and if youdon't stay in it, you go home.

Speaker 1 (03:07:41):
If you go home, you can't win.

Speaker 2 (03:07:43):
So I understand where everybody's coming from.
The three things that stuck outto me, probably more than
anything, were the three women Iwas the most attracted to, one
being alandria she is myfavorite.
I hope that she wins.
That's who I want to win.
I want her to win.
Two being Adrena that ass, thatass.

(03:08:06):
And then, of course, three,that ass.
Huda the most popular character, the person that I would see
the most talk about and wonderwhy the do people keep talking
about this chick?
And then I'm like, oh, becauseshe looks like she's like a
foreign chick with a fat ass.
I was like, okay, makes a tonof sense.
Then you dive into hercharacter and I find out what

(03:08:28):
she's done, how that plays into,where chicks again which we
talked about this before I hadseen it, you were telling me and
we're like, okay, basicallychicks hate her because they
really see themselves in her andthey don't want to admit that.

Speaker 1 (03:08:44):
Yeah, no, and she look and like being real Huda
look better than a lot of themand she got a fatter ass and
like like she does physicallyattractive stuff and she also
toxic and niggas, like that,like before the show.
I'm like, bro, a three monthrelationship with Huda?

(03:09:06):
Oh, we lit.
Nah, I can't do it long termbecause that, that, that, but
that's too much work.

Speaker 2 (03:09:17):
And, interestingly enough, at least I found out
this through my niece, so she'sthe only one that has a kid on
the show.

Speaker 1 (03:09:23):
Oh yeah, she talks about her kid more than she
should.

Speaker 2 (03:09:26):
She has a kid, which I think again.
That kind of is like why areyou here?

Speaker 1 (03:09:37):
Especially if they can't have any communication.

Speaker 2 (03:09:40):
So that's a little.
Hey, you know the conversation.
As a mom, as a dad, it's notgood, but like it's like, as a
mom it seems worse.

Speaker 1 (03:09:45):
The opposite is worse and you know some of the
conversations that we have aboutlike child raising and rearing,
and and who likes to do itversus who doesn't, you know.
Does it shock me that a singlemom is on a dating show?

(03:10:05):
No, especially when they actlike her.
Everything about her says I'dleave my kid to go on this show,
which is why I would want todate her for three months Only
three months, though.

Speaker 2 (03:10:20):
This nigga wants a fucking trial, a subscription
trial, I mean low-key.

Speaker 1 (03:10:27):
What are your thoughts on Amaya?

Speaker 2 (03:10:32):
Now you got to give me a little bit because I am
some of the names, but she's thegirl that hold on.

Speaker 1 (03:10:37):
She's the green-eyed Dominican New York airhead.
Fine, who likes?
Oh, okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:10:46):
I'm looking at her, so you know, on here she looks a
hell of a lot better.
On her Instagram shots I wasn'ta big fan.
She looks like she's got workdone.
She cries a lot.
She's super emotional.
I think she should go home, inmy opinion.

Speaker 1 (03:11:06):
She doesn't add value to the show.

Speaker 2 (03:11:09):
She looks a hell of a lot better on this fucking
Google search than she does onthe show.

Speaker 1 (03:11:14):
I think she'd be looking good on the show.

Speaker 2 (03:11:18):
I'm not Okay.
Disclaimer they're allattractive.
None of them are ugly, none ofthem are decent.
I think they're all attractive,but she looks a hell of a lot
better on here.

Speaker 1 (03:11:30):
I'm looking at her IG right now.

Speaker 2 (03:11:32):
Here.
I didn't even go to the IG, Ijust typed in Amaya, love Island
and just went to Google and shejust looks.
I mean, she looks a shit tonbetter.

Speaker 1 (03:11:42):
Oh bro.
I need some stuff from theground.

Speaker 2 (03:11:48):
You know, maybe it's cause she's Glammed up here.
This is not how she looks Onthe show, bro.

Speaker 1 (03:11:56):
No.

Speaker 2 (03:11:57):
It isn't.
I'm telling you.
I'm looking at her Like this isnot how she looks on the show.

Speaker 1 (03:12:01):
Nah, she don't be looking.

Speaker 2 (03:12:02):
I don't know what she's fucking makeup on.
I mean, I think she's beautiful.
No, she looks good, but I'mjust Nah, she looks better.

Speaker 1 (03:12:20):
But I will say she's easily the easiest girl that you
could lock down a relationshipwith and treat like shit.
If she loves you and she'sgoing to fall in love in two
days she's going to be loyal ashell and she's just going to
argue with you and fight you.

Speaker 2 (03:12:34):
Amaya definitely put hands on her man.
Yeah, she's looking good here,but, um, I think that she's
super emotional, though I meanit showed last night with the
crying and stuff, because it wastrue that she got called out.
It's like you are always crying.
She does seem like she's justlike on too much on, and she's
she's like yeah, well, I wear myheart on my sleeve and all this

(03:12:55):
other shit and it's just likeyeah, but in a game like this,
Bro, you've met.

Speaker 1 (03:13:03):
you've met her personality before Criers.
Yeah, for sure, Probably fuckedor dated her personality for
being honest.

Speaker 2 (03:13:15):
Fuck for sure, fuck for sure.
Well, for sure.
There I mean, people deal withlike for sure.
I don't think I've dated a, notsomebody that's that emotional.
I mean I think that Mariana'smom is an emotional person, but
not like to that extent Likethat's fair.
She's like crying, she just Idon't know if I can get around

(03:13:35):
that.
Like it to that extent that'sfair.
She's crying.
I don't know if I can getaround that.
It's too much, it's just toomuch.

Speaker 1 (03:13:43):
Sierra and Nick are like the mob bosses of the house
.
They have their little nastyfingers in and on everything.
They try to paint Ace as theleader and he be talking.
I like how he called Shelly onher like they try to paint Ace
as like the like the leader andand he he be talking.
And I like how he called Shellyon her bullshit and and the way
she responded Shelly's done,shelly, you're out of here.

(03:14:04):
You're off the show.
I'm just being out of it.
Shelly's cooked.
You know what's?

Speaker 2 (03:14:10):
even crazier.

Speaker 1 (03:14:11):
Lee, what's up?
Are you still looking at Amaya?

Speaker 2 (03:14:17):
You freak?
No, I'm looking at Ciara now.
I think Ciara looks better onthe show than she does on her
Instagram.
You've got to scroll past allthe Love Island stuff and just
go to her photos prior togetting on the show.

Speaker 1 (03:14:28):
Can you send me her IG?

Speaker 2 (03:14:29):
Yeah, here hold on.
So she's clearly thefrontrunner to win, like she's.
It appears to me that she'swell-positioned right now.
Certainly, the betting oddshave her as the favorite.
So you know, you can bet onthis too.

(03:14:51):
That's correct.
You can bet on it too.
But that's correct.
Um, you can bet on it.
I was just curious, like when Iwas sitting there last night I
had told, uh, taylor, I was likeI was like you know, because I
just typed in I was like loveisland odds just to see, like
does somebody have fixed likefictional odds or like whatever?
No, you can actually bet on iton, I think, bet 365 or

(03:15:12):
something.
That's great, but you got to gofurther down, like go, I'm in.

Speaker 1 (03:15:20):
I'm in december, right now I'm at a photo here.

Speaker 2 (03:15:25):
I'm gonna send you the photo I'm looking at.
Okay, and even the likes kindof expose it a little,
especially for somebody, and Iknow that they gained way more
followers since being there.
But if you just look at it, 41comments.

Speaker 1 (03:15:40):
It's the 41 comments, not even the 1,200 likes.
It's the 41 comments.

Speaker 2 (03:15:43):
But just look at that photo specifically.
She could still get fucked Likewe're not.
Okay, All right.
Disclaimer we would fuck allthe chicks on there.

Speaker 1 (03:15:54):
Speak for yourself, buddy.

Speaker 2 (03:15:55):
Okay, well, I'd have sex with all of them, like I
would screw them all.
But like the thing is I don'tknow she looks better on the
show than she does on herInstagram.
In my opinion, like yeah.
Like more attractive to what Isee on the show, like the other
chick, looks so much better onher.

Speaker 1 (03:16:10):
Instagram Sierra's attractive enough that I would
date her, but I wouldn'tnecessarily.
She wouldn't be the chick thatI saw out one night and be like
I got to get her.
If we started talking, it'scool, then yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (03:16:26):
Alandria.

Speaker 1 (03:16:31):
I love her.

Speaker 2 (03:16:32):
That is my favorite.

Speaker 1 (03:16:34):
I love her.
We would make some beautifulchocolate kids.
That's what I was thinking Iwas like man.

Speaker 2 (03:16:42):
Then when I looked it up, I'm like okay, she's a
Southern belle, she's fromAlabama.

Speaker 1 (03:16:46):
I was like she went to.

Speaker 2 (03:16:47):
Tuskegee.
I was like okay.

Speaker 1 (03:16:49):
She went to Tuskegee.

Speaker 2 (03:16:50):
She went to Tuskegee brother.
This is what I'm saying.
So now I'm looking at it from aoh, if I was younger, this is
the type of HBCU chick that Iwould run into.

Speaker 1 (03:17:04):
If I met you before this show and we just started
talking and you get off yourInstagram follower number and we
just have conversation yeah, Ican bag you, man, let me tell
you she's my favorite by far.

Speaker 2 (03:17:21):
She lives in Houston.
It's something about her.
I like her a lot and so she'smy favorite.
She is my favorite.
Like that's who I want to win.
I don't understand the dudeTaylor fucking loser, because
Clark not even really.
I mean Clark, like again theycould all get hit, but Clark not
even hitting on nothing.

Speaker 1 (03:17:42):
Her jawline too strong for me too.

Speaker 2 (03:17:45):
And then the dude Taylor.
He's basically like therewasn't like a physical
attraction.
I was like nigga, are youserious?
You start thinking if dudes aregay and it's just like, what do
you mean?
There's not a physical, how areyou not physically attracted to
her?
What do you mean I?
I look here.
You just don't likedark-skinned girl.
Like what is that like?
Because that's the only thing Icould think of.

(03:18:06):
It's like one of those like Idon't like dark-skinned chicks
type dudes and it's just likeand that's weird that is weird,
it's the guy who, who does nothave the strongest track record
with dark-skinned women?

Speaker 1 (03:18:21):
I mean either, but but I I'm never not attracted to
a dark-skinned woman.
That's attractive.

Speaker 2 (03:18:28):
it's like I like women, so it don't matter what
the skin color is Like, andobviously in my case, hey, hey,
hey, hold on, dr Umar has strictlessons.
Fuck that nigga.
He ain't a doctor.
Fuck that nigga he not a realdoctor and it's disrespectful to
guys that are pursuing gettingand doing.

Speaker 1 (03:18:51):
Hey, dr Umar, you got five years nigga.
You better run your checkupover the next five years.

Speaker 2 (03:18:59):
Umar but.
Alandria, I mean, here I'mgoing to send you this picture
of Alandria real quick.
I don't know if I need to seethat.

Speaker 1 (03:19:07):
No.

Speaker 2 (03:19:08):
I think you should.

Speaker 1 (03:19:10):
Let me see.
I just didn't like how Alandriagot upset.

Speaker 2 (03:19:16):
It was.
That was some weak shit.

Speaker 1 (03:19:19):
For her to ask him the question about being on.
Some.
Act like a bitch and stand onbusiness.
Oh, we done.
Now it's over.

Speaker 2 (03:19:29):
It was already over.

Speaker 1 (03:19:32):
Maybe he still was thinking about spinning and she
could still be spun on, he couldstill get her back now, but
could he actually be with her,knowing how she just talked to
him in front of everybody?
Nah, bro.

Speaker 2 (03:19:51):
So I wasn't upset more about that.
I thought you were talking moreabout when she brought up.
What did she bring up that?
I didn't like she.
She tried to like use thistrump card in the uh, the huda
thing, like our huda thing,however you pronounce your name
oh, with the huda and shelly,yeah, like they made out type
shit.
I was like, oh, that's kind oflame, like that's lame as fuck.

(03:20:13):
Yeah, in reality that shit'slame as fuck.
In reality, that shit's lameLike first of all, I get it.
It's like, well, they alreadyhad made out, everybody's making
out, but I get it.
They did it not in a challenge.
And it's like, yeah, the peopleare in there fucking Like
they're fucking.
Why are you telling about otherpeople kissing?
You're not even the one kissing, but you're telling.

Speaker 1 (03:20:37):
Yeah, and my man's over here.
He can't be peace.
He went up there and answeredhis questions.
He wasn't going for none ofthat shit, was it Chris?

Speaker 2 (03:20:48):
Yeah, so I fuck with him.
He's the ball player, right, soI fuck with him, and maybe
that's why he's perfect for no,I mean, look, I I don't have,
I'm not attracted to the men,but like, at the same time, I
have to place myself in theposition of how a is.
So even my niece.
This is what she said to me andactually no, no, no, no, was it

(03:21:12):
?
I think no, okay.
So we went back because shewanted to show me an episode,
because she wanted to show mewhy everybody hated Huda so I
went back.
I saw that episode too, becauseshe wanted me to see it the
twerk contest no, I saw that itwas before that she had did
something, so everybody wasupset with some dude named

(03:21:33):
Jeremiah.
Jeremiah looks like fuckingShamar Moore.
That's what I told her.
I was like he looks like ShamarMoore.

Speaker 1 (03:21:41):
He look like the nigga walking around Morehouse
in a tight suit.

Speaker 2 (03:21:45):
Clearly that nigga was pulling a lot of the bitches
in there.
That's why he got eliminated,because as soon as the new chick
, adrena, came on, he like bagsher immediately, but already had
had huda in like somebody elseand so the guys see him as a
threat.
A because it's like oh he's,he's collecting infinity stones,

(03:22:08):
so that's not good for business.
But then the chicks are alsolike oh, he just treated huda
like shit like, but kind ofdropped her and immediately
there's this connection.
He treated her like shit so hedidn't play the game, right?
No, in reality he just didn'tplay the game correctly.

Speaker 1 (03:22:23):
He was out there living, he was treating it like
his real life, trying to, tryingto figure out which girl he
want okay, yeah, and so.

Speaker 2 (03:22:29):
And then the other part, which I see where Alandria
is upset with Taylor is becauseTaylor could have got sent home
, but everybody protected theirconnection and they sent the
dude home that had never beenout of the country, that was
from Georgia, from South Georgia, who no homo?
He just didn't look like hebelonged there either.

(03:22:50):
And I'm not saying that hedon't get bitches, because I'm
sure he do, but he looked likehe didn't belong.
Saying that he don't getbitches because I'm sure he do,
but like he looked like hedidn't belong there.
He don't look fly.
Well again, if that was hisfirst time out of the country
and there's nothing wrong withnot like never have gone out of
the country he ain't experiencedtoo much in life either by that
point and so it's like well, ifhe's from a small town in South

(03:23:11):
Georgia, I'm sure he's cool asfuck, but like I'm just saying
he got sent home becauseAlandria was the only person
that he wanted and it was athreat to Taylor, and it was
either that or, I guess, hood,like basically it was who's
going to go home.
But they sent him home and it'slike fucked up though, now that

(03:23:34):
he's moved on with the chickthat he met and was only with
for three days after you've beenwith this girl for three weeks
now.

Speaker 1 (03:23:40):
And Elendria ain't rocking with nobody but Taylor.

Speaker 2 (03:23:44):
Well, she gonna rock with somebody new, something
gonna happen, man I don't knowhow I don't get it, I don't get
it.

Speaker 1 (03:23:54):
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
I don't get it either.
She cool, she look good.
Yeah, she got mad and crashedthe fuck out.

Speaker 2 (03:24:04):
You haven't even looked at what I sent you.

Speaker 1 (03:24:06):
No, I can understand what got her to that point too,
though.

Speaker 2 (03:24:10):
Can you get on and just look?

Speaker 1 (03:24:12):
Yeah, I'm looking right now, oh shit.
Enjoyed though, like eventhough I don't just look, yeah,
I, I I'm looking right now, ohenjoyed I hate to say it, lee, I
don't think I'm pulling out Iknow I'm not, I wouldn't think
about it I don't, I don't, Idon't, and you know that's a

(03:24:34):
natural body too, and so it'slike like I don't think I'm
pulling out I like the way herbutt be jiggling when she walked
.

Speaker 2 (03:24:42):
That's how you well and you can see the stretch
marks.
I I'm not pulling out, brother,and I'll deal with the
consequences no, no, this is islike high cheekbones beautiful.
That chop the scans, brother.

Speaker 1 (03:24:56):
Yeah, no, the titties yeah.
You and see, you know, I kindof like them petite too, so like
yeah you can pick her up, throwher around Like no, she's yeah,
no, no, no, no, no, no you,yeah, no you.

Speaker 2 (03:25:12):
Yeah, brother Boy, no , no, no, no, you, yeah, no you,
yeah, brother, I boy, the fun Ihad with her, but um enough of
my smut talking here.

Speaker 1 (03:25:25):
Uh, I I think she but I but I honestly think she'd
make a good, a good mate.
Like a good partner, somebodyto build with.
Like, hey, you know what I hatethat I met you on this show
because you have to see a sideof me that I don't want you to
see of me.
Like I want you to know that itexists.
I want you to know I can stillget busy out here, but like I
don't want to put you in a placeto have to feel what it feels
like to see me swap and spitwith another woman and being

(03:25:45):
aroused by her.
You know Cause everybody's madat Huda.
Like we didn't talk about thatwith the who didn't a shit right
?
Shelly can't be mad if she'sopen.
If you're going to say, hey,I'm going to be open, you can't
then put boundaries on achallenge.

(03:26:06):
I can understand you're notliking it, not wanting to see it
, but if you're not going tocommit to me, you can't tell me
I can't.

Speaker 2 (03:26:15):
Hey, I mean she's trying to play that bullshit of
we home.
Girls like you could have choseany other dude, and that's what
I was thinking too.
I'm just like so hold on, letme get this straight.
The name of the game is to getsomebody's heart pumping.
That's the name of this game.
Maybe she did go a little extrabecause she didn't do that shit
with nobody else, but it's likewhat?

Speaker 1 (03:26:37):
are you gonna do that for?

Speaker 2 (03:26:38):
everybody else.
Why is it that in that splitsecond it hit her to hit a move
and she did the move and clearlyit worked right, because I'm
pretty sure that his it wasracing highest with hers, right?

Speaker 1 (03:26:51):
right, yeah, both of them yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:26:53):
So like maybe she got into it more in that moment.
Like we can't judge her basedon that.
It's a challenge.
But it wasn't for you, likethis wasn't against you, I
wasn't doing it to go againstyou.
And just like for him I'm surehe's like look, I thoroughly

(03:27:13):
enjoyed it.
Clearly, as a man, you're stillmy connection, but it'd be just
like.
It'd be just like if you hadyour girl and you went to a
strip club and you were like man, I want to pipe the shit out of
this stripper, doesn't meanthat you don't love your girl
doesn't mean that you're gonnapipe the shit out of the
stripper.
It just means that in thatmoment you saw some shit that
was like.
This is the thought that'scoming in my mind.

(03:27:35):
It doesn't.
You can't be mad at thestripper for for rousing your
man yeah, no, and.

Speaker 1 (03:27:43):
And then she doubled back with the dude that she has
a connection with.
So it's like you're using achallenge to get your shot off.
Let who to sit that ass on myface and a Landry.

Speaker 2 (03:27:57):
Our agent just broke this news that that they both
admitted to it was lame that shedid it, that they made that she
made out with Chris anyway.
So now it's like well, clearlyshe's trying to connect with the
nigga that she's connected with.
So it's like you're taking thechallenge a little too serious,
like bro is, is I?

Speaker 1 (03:28:17):
I saw that black women are defending alandria and
um I'm okay with it because Iwant her to stay on the show
yeah, like they're defendingthem and saying we're not gonna
come out here and paint thisnarrative of them as mean girls
or angry black women.
It's not a narrative when itcan be true and I don't think

(03:28:38):
they're angry black women andI'm not like trying to push that
but the shit that they did onthe last episode, bro, that shit
was lame.
Like girl, you can't get mady'all.
You can't get mad at me becauseI got a lap dance, a nasty,
freaky lap dance, in a challengethat I don't control what the
person does.
And yeah, I gotta play into itbecause it's a fucking tv show,

(03:29:00):
right, and and why?
You still entertaining old boyand during the said challenge
you are fucking with old boyduring the challenge, letting
him know, and then you asking meall these different little
questions, and then Alandriadoing that shit with Taylor and
just going the fuck off and thenputting out the little messy
shit, and then the two of themwith Sierra.
They feel like they the OGs ofthe house, so everything gotta

(03:29:22):
go through them.
I get it.
Y'all original cast, y'all ain'tbombshells and shit.
But no, bro, like y'all on sometrying to defend y'all's turf,
which is fine, because you're onthe show to stay on the show,
but don't.
But people need to like,evaluate it as such, like, hey,
no, they're doing some, theythey're doing some linking up

(03:29:43):
and trying to save each other,because shelly, no, she, she
don't borrow time, because he'sabout done with him well, and
shelly is the person that I'mleast attracted to of all the
women.

Speaker 2 (03:29:55):
One of the white chicks actually is the least
attractive.
But Shelly and it's not just anattraction-based thing the way
that she kind of acts, I don'tknow.
She walking around like she runthe shit too.
That's the issue as well.

Speaker 1 (03:30:06):
And she don't look good enough to be doing all that
.

Speaker 2 (03:30:08):
Exactly.
She doesn't look good enough tobe doing all that, and so look
and disclaimer again for anyonecatching the end of this here.
I am attracted to all of them.
They are all attractive.
I am not saying that any ofthem are unattractive, but if
I'm picking favorites here, shefalls at the bottom of that list
in my opinion, and her attitudefucking doesn't go along with

(03:30:31):
it too.
This is the issue here, and soit's just.

Speaker 1 (03:30:34):
But another thing that the listeners don't
understand is the women thatwe've been involved with in our
lives and the way that they look.
You can like rack and stackyour roster with some of these
women on here.

Speaker 2 (03:30:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:30:51):
And that paints the way that we will talk about them
.
Where it's like you ain't fineenough to do all that, yes, I'd
still have sex with you, butlike I've had sex with girls who
look better than you and Itolerate it much less bullshit
from them.
So, like it's, that's just forthe listener who's still here at
hour three and a half yeah, uh,well, here, because we can get

(03:31:13):
ready to end it, I guess.

Speaker 2 (03:31:14):
But what?
Who do you think is going toultimately end up getting voted
off, man and woman, for this fortomorrow oh golly, I hope they
get rid of hurt mouth hurt mouth.

Speaker 1 (03:31:31):
I can't remember his name.
He doesn't belong.
White guy with weird tattoosthe awkward dude.

Speaker 2 (03:31:38):
That's kind of tall, yeah.
So I think he's going home.
I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (03:31:45):
I don't know what girl's going home, but I know
it's not going to be Huda orLandry, so I think it's going to
be Hold on.

Speaker 2 (03:31:53):
Where is it Hold on?
I got to find Because I'm stillnew to this guys.
So I think it's going to behold on.
Where is it Hold on?
I got to find because, becauseI'm still new to this guys.

Speaker 1 (03:32:00):
I was rooting for Amaya to get kicked off until
she turned into her real selfyesterday, when, when she was
going back and forth withwhoever it was on stage, it's
like OK, this is the real Amaya.

Speaker 2 (03:32:12):
There we go here.
Hold on, gosh, I got to find,find it.
I need to see just a list ofthe names.
I know which girl I think'sgoing home, but I'm agreeing
with you that dude's going home?
He's the taller nigga, that andhe kind of was he was.
He was honestly standing onbusiness by putting his name on
everything that he put questionmarks as his name, but, like I

(03:32:35):
don't know, he just seemed lameas fuck.

Speaker 1 (03:32:38):
Why didn't you ask me about this every day when you
see me?
Don't wait till the challengeto have this conversation with
me for the first time.
And to be honest, he's notfunny.
You know no Kung Fu Kenny here,but he's not like an attractive
guy.
You know what I meanny here.

Speaker 2 (03:32:54):
But he's not like an attractive guy you know what I?

Speaker 1 (03:32:56):
mean you're like, this looks like a goofy white
dick that you see in californiaor some shit like he's out one
night, like okay, hold on, holdon, I think I might have found
something.

Speaker 2 (03:33:05):
I know which girl it is.
I think it's.
Iris is her name.
She's getting voted off.
The people that aren't bringinganything to the table, they've
got to go, I mean.

Speaker 1 (03:33:14):
But then what do you do with TJ?
Tj and Iris they're cool.
I mean, I don't think theybring anything to the table.

Speaker 2 (03:33:22):
TJ's going to have to be like what does this go
around?
He's going to have to find afucking new connection.

Speaker 1 (03:33:28):
Oh, you forgot about old boy.
We forgot about old boy who waswith Sierra.
He just might be out of here,cause unless he climbed that at
Landria tree, I don't know, butI don't see a Landria Lincoln
with a white dude.
For real, for real.

Speaker 2 (03:33:43):
Yes, he probably does want a nigga.
Oh, you're okay, You're talking.
Are you talking about the Asian?

Speaker 1 (03:33:49):
dude no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no not not.

Speaker 2 (03:33:51):
He might go home too, though.

Speaker 1 (03:33:53):
I don't, I don't, I, I don't like when he speaks his.
His cadence doesn't work for me, like the tie and the British
mix, like that's that, that that.
I know a dude that looks justlike him too.

Speaker 2 (03:34:07):
It's so crazy.
He looks just like him.

Speaker 1 (03:34:10):
I don't think he's my brothers.

Speaker 2 (03:34:12):
He's got tattoo, yeah , and he's like, he's like.
He works at the Orient, buthe's from the UK.
Okay, his name's Tommy.
He looks just like him.
I showed it to my niece.
I was like he looks just likehim.
If you saw him you would say,damn, are y'all brothers?

(03:34:34):
They look alike Like.
They look that much alike Sametype of haircut and everything
you blacks all look alike too.
Nah, man, they look alike.
They look alike and, like Isaid, he's from the UK as well,
so it's like I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:34:52):
But hey, parley P, this was a great way To end this
iteration Of what this show is.
I just want to take this timeto thank you For Committing To
this because I, you know, didn'tthink we'd be here five years
later, like, and not a knock onyou Personally, just On.

(03:35:14):
I haven't, you know, didn'tthink we'd be here five years
later, like, and not a knock onyou personally, just on.
I haven't potted with someonethis long who's consistent and
here every week and cares andall like.
I just haven't had that.
So I just want to thank you forfor for me to you joining like
one of my passion projects, andwhat it's done for our

(03:35:37):
friendship, because we were coolbefore we started the show but
we became great friends becauseof this time we spend together
and I just want to thank you forthat.
And to the people listeningyeah, we won't be here together
doing this show for a littlewhile, but we'll be back and

(03:36:02):
it's going to be different andit's going to be better,
absolutely.

Speaker 2 (03:36:04):
Well, I mean, I appreciate you too.
I the same sentiments as you aswell.
Obviously, we got to see ourfriendship grow, become even
better.
I mean it's like therapy for mefor us to be able to sit here
and talk weekly, whether it'sabout personal issues, fathers,
sports, things that arehappening in the world one way

(03:36:24):
or another.
You know, it's been great forme and especially even within
that time period, there's beenso much stuff that's just
happened in general.
Yeah, so I mean I appreciate it.
It's something that I alwayslook forward to every week.
That's why I make sure I'm here, make sure we do it and we
crush it, and I think that withthe next era and iteration that
we've got coming, a lot ofpeople, if anyone like this,

(03:36:46):
they're going to love you knowthey like it.
They're going to love this.

Speaker 1 (03:36:53):
Yes, yeah, and a quick shout out to my, to my
man's, nige b.
I accidentally put him in andparley pete in a group text I
wonder why he did it like Ithought.

Speaker 2 (03:37:04):
I'm like is he trying to start a new group chat like
no it I.

Speaker 1 (03:37:08):
I was working outside and sent y'all the same thing
and accidentally sent it to thesame one, but those words that
he sent us I'm so happy that youwere able to see that because
he's a guy who, like I, talk toon a daily.
We talk sports all the time.
He listens to our show andgives legitimate feedback and

(03:37:29):
likes our show and looks forwardto our show and, like we have
these side conversations.
So just for him to be able togive us our flowers, like
especially as black men, sayingsome some nice ass shit, like
you know, niggas don't do that,it was just warming and it felt
great and you know it's, it'speople like that.

(03:37:51):
That's why we do this.
As much as I hate talking aboutthese shows in public, nothing
feels better than running intosomebody who watches your show
and sits and listens to you talk.
It's like that's fire, yeah itis.

Speaker 2 (03:38:10):
It's ultimately what you want, then you get it
Granted.
That's one person, but it'slike it starts somewhere.
It doesn't.
There has to be somebody thatbelieves in it, outside of even
ourselves, right, like ingeneral, and that's with
everything.
It's not just with potting, butlike with any and everything
that anyone does.
There was somebody one day thatwas like like that saw

(03:38:33):
something in lebron when hepicked up a basketball.
And they're like man, I thinkyou can be something whether it
was a coach when he was seven oreight.
Like you know what I'm, sayingI'll be five.
Five at five he might have been, but I'm okay.
All right, colin, I'll use himas oh, yeah, I get shorter and
Kyle was always short, like thatnigga didn't get tall until he

(03:38:57):
had, probably until like 10thgrade, but like he was always
short.
But, point being, somebody sawsomething and was like you know
what I mean, and all it takes isit could be something as simple
as that, just one person thatsparks it and makes it get
better, and uh move forward,especially because it's just
like what you got one personthat's out there at least, no

(03:39:18):
matter what right, but yeah,it's, it's, it's awesome you
remember we ran into our mans atthe uh, at the shannon and ocho
show, and the dude goes oh shit, it's acl and parlay p.

Speaker 1 (03:39:31):
And he tells his mans hey, bro, they got a great,
they got a good podcast.
You need to listen.
As weird.
That shit was weird as hell.
Because you called me ac leeand you called him parlay pete
in real life, like you put thosetwo things together that we've
placed together and you justsaid it to us like we're people

(03:39:55):
to be seen, like, yeah, we'rejust niggas catching a show man.
Yeah, anyways, dog, we'realmost at four hours and it's
getting late.

Speaker 2 (03:40:05):
Well, that's a fitting way to end in this era
of it, though, too, we've hadsome long ones.
But you know Well, I tell youwhat my bad.
We've had some hoes onourselves.
You can throw that a couple ofdifferent ways, but, yeah, it's
been a pleasure.

(03:40:25):
Salutations, good people, andwe will see you in August.

Speaker 1 (03:40:31):
Yeah, we'll see you August.
All right, brother, we might beback for the draft.
We should be ready before thedraft, but we may do a draft
show now in September.

Speaker 2 (03:40:47):
Yeah, that's September.
We'll be back before.
The first week of collegefootball is August 30th.
We have to get in the NFL showand I feel like we'll probably
again.
We don't even or we can recordit and keep it to ourselves, but
kind of run through not to giveout everything.

Speaker 1 (03:41:05):
But that what we need to do is actually sit down and,
like, discuss new format, howwe want it to look, and then
give our weekly whatever touchpoints to make sure that we're
actually doing the stuff we'resupposed to do, because we're
treating this like it's a joband we're professionals and we
know that when we don't havetouch points and follow-ups,

(03:41:27):
shit doesn't get done.
Exactly and then we come back ina month and a half and it's the
AC Lee and Parley P podcastunder a different name.
But we didn't change anythingand I defeated the whole purpose
of us taking time away fromdoing shows to build the brand
properly exactly alright, solet's have this conversation
tomorrow's Thursday.

(03:41:48):
Let's have this conversationmaybe sometime tomorrow and not
tomorrow.
Let's take some time to thinkand then we'll touch base
sometime next week on an actualconversation of how we want to
frame this shit out, because Ijust need some free thinking
time to put stuff down on paper.

Speaker 2 (03:42:07):
Did you get any of that stuff I sent you, by the
way?

Speaker 1 (03:42:10):
I think so Did I respond to it?

Speaker 2 (03:42:12):
No, I texted you.
Worst case, I can resend it.
It my phone has been acting up,but I can't resend it.

Speaker 1 (03:42:19):
Worst case, so was it it was like pictures.
The last one I got was was thesitting around the table, like
it's the last supper, but it'sokay, so you did get it.

Speaker 2 (03:42:33):
Yeah, you got it.
Yeah, I got that.
Okay, I said I like it's thelast supper but it's Okay, so
you did get it.

Speaker 1 (03:42:34):
Yeah, I got that.
I said I like it.
Yeah, I responded Alright, nick, I've been talking to you for
four hours.
Bye.

Speaker 2 (03:42:41):
Alright brother.

Speaker 1 (03:42:42):
Alright dog.

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