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Speaker 1 (00:01):
everybody will want
to see.
We're one of those teams.
For the NFL we're theentertaining team.
We were the most entertainingteam in the draft last year, if
you let everybody say it,because we made the first big
domino.
Nobody saw that coming move andthen everybody trashed it and
then now it makes all the sensein the world.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah yeah, we're kind
of.
Are we the court jester of theof the nfl because we got 28-3?
They laugh at us.
They laugh at us about that.
We took mike vick and that wasgreat, but the way we lost him
and I we know picking Mike Vickwas the right pick, but the
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person you know, the team thatwe traded with, they got the
Hall of Fame running back.
And Hall of Fame quarterback,and they then drafted a Hall of
Fame quarterback same draft whoeventually dominated our
division for a nice 10-year run.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, I mean.
Granted, he wasn't with them,he wasn't with the.
He took some breaks, he wasstill dominating, but he was
still.
Drew was a solid quarterbackfor the Chargers.
How I remember it.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Well, yeah, and I was
listening to somebody who's
older and talks about footballand the only reason that Drew
Brees wasn't a first-round pickbecause he's the first pick of
the second round was because ofthe height.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
And back then less
teams would take the risk on the
smaller quarterback, yeah, andthat makes sense.
But we literally basicallydirectly traded that pick to
them.
I mean, that's how we got themright.
We gave them that and then theygot white chocolate, too, out of
the deal.
Tim Dwight, yeah man, timDwight, white chocolate.
Hey, talk about a Falconsjersey I'd love to have.
Yeah, tim Dwight was the returnman before Alan Rossum.
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He was what?
83, right?
Yeah, tim Dwight.
Then it went to Alan Rossum,then it went I guess it was Snow
and Hester immediately.
I think, Norwood was returningkicks.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Did D'Angelo Hall
play around with any returning?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
early.
I think he did punts.
I don't think he did kickreturns.
I'm pretty sure D'Hall probablyhis rookie year.
For sure I know he did somepunts.
But like then you remember wehad Anton Smith.
At one point I think that theymight have even had him field
and kick, because every time hetouched the ball he scored.
So he did that.
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One year he had like fiverushing touchdowns and like
every single one of them waslike 50 or 40 yards.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
You know who, the
Falcon that I really like more
than I should have, who JaquezRodgers?
I think he had like a greatpreseason game and you know he'd
come in on third down every nowand then and do something nice
and it's like, hey, let's getthis guy to ball more.
Now that I'm an adult, I goyeah, they knew what they were
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doing.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Well, think about who
that medley of running backs
was.
At the time, though, you hadthe end of the road Turner.
You had a fucking StevenJackson.
That was done.
At that point, jason Snellingwas getting toed, like he was
toting it a little bit.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, Like I mean 44.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, and you know,
it's even funnier that you bring
up Jacquez Rogers.
I immediately thought, when wegot Devante Freeman, I was like,
oh, here we go again.
Thought, when we got DevontaeFreeman, I was like, oh, here we
go again, because I basicallythought that it was going to
kind of be like the same thing,especially because they had
drafted they drafted KevinColeman the next year, yep, and
we're like, oh, we got him inthe second or was he second or
maybe he's third round.
But like you're like, oh, youknow, and they worked out really
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well, obviously for three years.
There was a three-year periodwhere they were pretty.
That was a great tandemactually, especially with Kyle,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Super Bowl year, they bothhad 10-plus touchdowns.
I think Tevin Tico did have.
He had 1,000 yards all-purpose,no doubt Like yeah, and of
course, devontae was a ProBowler begging for money the day
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before the Super Bowl, and it'sjust you know, that's Nico
behavior, you know.
Well, I'm putting it out thereand it's just like you guys just
don't get it, do you Like wefinished the fucking game?
And then you asked for themoney.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, because if we
win, you're going to get the
money either way.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Well, you're going to
get it.
If we lose, you're going to getthe money either way.
Well, you're going to get it.
If we lose, you're going to getit, because either we want to
run it back and keep you oryou're going to be able to test
free agency eventually andsomebody's going to pay you.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, you know,
sometimes you just can't bring
the wrong people into business,right?
Uncle Luke, I'm pretty surehe's been a successful
businessman on the music side.
You know he did his stuff right.
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But this is the NFL.
It's a tad bit different.
And you know, were we talkingabout I think we were talking
about it yesterday with Ishbiathat some of these guys are good
at business but they're notgood at the business of sports.
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Because you can't use some ofthe same general business
principles that can apply tomultiple fields the same way you
can in sports.
Sure, you can make a profitablebusiness doing it that way, but
the way that CBAs are set upand TV deals are set up, you're
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going to turn a profit with prosports.
So in order to maximize yourprofit, you sometimes have to
spend to make, where in mostindustries the easiest way to
grow your profit margins is tocut costs, not necessarily in
sports.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
That's true.
I just think that overall, toanswer your initial initial
question, are we the courtgestures?
I'm gonna say no, just becausewe're not that embarrassing.
I think that we have a lot ofunfortunate things that happen
to us, but like we're like kennyin south park.
You know what I mean.
It's just always some fuckingshit happening to us but like
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you know, we're still acharacter out there.
But like, if you look at theteam like I mean the browns to
me have been that team inreality, like and of course the
lions kind of prior to this youknow those are laughingstock
team, those are teams that hadseasons where they didn't win
games.
You know what I mean.
Like that's that's, that's tome that's as low as it gets.
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You're the jester becauseeverybody gets excited to play
you, because they know they'regonna whoop your ass.
It doesn't really matter whathappens.
Like you're gonna get your assbeat.
So like I don't know if we'rethe jester per se, we're Kenny
from South Park.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I like Kenny from
South Park because he's a
character that everybody knowsabout.
He only has a cult followingfor favorite character and weird
shit happens to him.
If he gets an episode, it's agood episode, Like when the
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Falcons are good.
People want to watch us, yeah.
But if Kenny's not on anepisode, you're not going to be
like where's Kenny?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Probably already dead
.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
The fact that he can
die every episode.
It doesn't matter at what pointin the episode.
He's not Cartman or Kyle.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Or Randy Marsh Ooh,
mount Rushmore has been popular
on social media.
Give me your South Park MountRushmore characters.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Well, you kind of
just named three of them and
then I'd probably I mean, I feellike you have to put Sheff on
there- so I was thinking CartmanSheff, Randy Marsh, We'll give
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Garrison a nod over Kyle we giveGarrison a nod over Kyle.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, in terms of
what makes you smile watching
the show yeah, because, althoughCartman had his war with the
Jews on that show, and it'scrazy that he's the only, like
South Park's, the only peoplewho can get away with this stuff
and continue to get away withit, I'm not snitching, I'm
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hating, and not because I wantto shit on Jews no, no, no.
But I just like the freedom ofexpression that they have.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
That's why I'm hating
, but they go after everybody
exactly, but Family Guy kind ofdoes it too.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I don't watch them
anymore.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I mean, I don't watch
them either, but I'm just
saying Family Guy has alwaysbeen, they were going after.
They do it differently.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, family Guy is
way more subtle.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
It's so buttoned up.
Yeah, theirs is like slightlymore, it's more buttoned up.
But even South, think about it.
South Park went after theSimpsons.
They would go after Family Guy.
Everybody can get it with SouthPark.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Just think about this
you could get off as a younger
kid watching Family Guy aroundyour parents.
You're not pulling South Parkoff in front of your parents if
they don't want you watching it.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, that was one of
the shows that was I'm not
going to say banned, but likesomewhat banned.
I mean, think about it becauseit's on Comedy Central.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Came on late at night
.
It came on at 10 o'clock.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, so it was
almost slightly kind of adult
swim type hours, you know what Imean.
Like to where.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
No, at one point it
came.
It followed Chappelle.
Chappelle led in the South Park.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
But Chappelle was in
that window of prime time kind
of like what was it 730?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, it was only 30
minutes.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Chappelle was only 30
minutes long.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I'm trying to think
or did South Park 730, Chappelle
at 8?
But I'm trying to think SouthPark 730, Chappelle at 8.
But I'm talking new episodes.
Probably at one point CarlosMencia was mixed in there.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
They had the late the
late show came on at 11 right
yeah, the late show or the dailyshow the daily show late night
television on comedy central.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Fucking let's do it
john stewart was amazing, by the
way.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Still you know what
you know what's so funny about
john stewart and you?
I didn't.
Well, you didn't realize it asa kid, or at least I didn't.
Well, you didn't realize it asa kid, or at least I didn't,
because I didn't really know whohe was.
But think about it, he was inbig daddy Right, and it's crazy,
cause he's like not the maincharacter in that movie, but
it's the whole premise of it isbased around him.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, piece of shit.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Well right, he's like
I don't even know who that is,
motherfucker's headed to Japanor something for business,
because he's just such a fuckingbig dick swinger.
He had the nice ass.
Somebody tried to tell me thatthat's how my spot looked, that
it was kind of similar, eventhough it wasn't His was massive
in New York City, but how hisloft was.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
If you remember how
that loft looked, Bro, how much
do you think that loft costtoday in New York City?
$10 million.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Monthly, oh, $50,000.
I don't know.
Something ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, that shit was
big as shit.
What is it A two-story loft?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
He had an upstairs, upstairs.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
It had a view, I
think, if there was a scene
where they like ate up there.
Remember, look at how big thatwhole party was when the
surprise party, how many fuckingpeople were in there sonny, you
always mess shit up.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, you know that
movie makes me cry big daddy.
Yeah, like, uh, maybe not nowbecause I mean because I've
resolved a lot of my daddyissues, but back when, like, my
daddy issues were heavy, yeah,that movie made me cry.
Lion king 2.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Lion King 2.
Adam Sandler's got twotearjerkers when you look at his
catalog.
He kind of always tries to getthat emotional connect in these
movies.
I mean Happy Gilmore, hisfucking grandmother's losing her
house.
He's got to do some shit hedon't want to do.
Chubbs died.
The one that always got me thatwas his, though, was Click.
Click was such a fucking deepmovie I have not watched that
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entire movie click was so deep,though, like it was just deep in
the idea of people thinking ifyou could go back and change
things, how you would changethem, and then what the outcome
is, and then basically like thebutterfly effect of it all right
and like is.
And then the basically like thebutterfly effect of it, all
right and like how it's, like ohman, I missed this stuff like
he.
For him it was like himbecoming a more successful
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version of himself for whateverit is that he did, and then like
but then he's like misses outon shit, like people die.
Like you know what I mean, he'slike they, you know what I mean
.
And like yeah, just that onewas the true tearjerker for me
Of all his movies, that one hithome.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I could see that
affecting me.
Yeah, no, five years ago thatwould have really messed me up,
and probably now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I probablycan't watch that right now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I probablycan't watch that right now.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah, it's a oof boy.
That one's a it is Waterworks.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I mean it's a movie.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I haven't seen in a
long time.
But like you know that one, I'mtrying to think he's got other
ones too.
When you really go down hiscatalog, where I mean wedding
singer is not one that you cryover, but certainly even the
moral of the story is that hewants the girl Fucked up.
Shit happens she's about tomarry this dickhead.
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I'm not going to get to haveher.
I already got my heart brokenby some slut that then comes
back.
That ruins my relationship withyou, because I knew that we
were falling for each other.
But then he has to get on aplane and sing a song and Billy
Idol helps him.
It's just like a lot of shit.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
You know, in the age
of smartphones and social media,
when she gets married, it's notover.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Well, I don't know.
In some cases I guess itdepends on who you're talking to
.
But like to me.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
What I've learned for
sure is that when the
engagement is going on.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
It's not over,
Because that is the time.
It's almost like this warningperiod.
It's like in baseball.
It's like the warning track.
You know what I mean.
It's like the ball is about toget out of the time.
It's almost like this warningperiod.
It's like in baseball.
It's like the warning track.
You know what I mean.
It's like the ball is about toget out of the park.
What are you going to do?
Are you going to jump up andcatch the ball and save the team
from this home run?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, I think that
works for the majority of people
, right, but if you can ruin thewedding, if you're that person.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Oh, you gotta marry
them though.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Well, no, no, no, I'm
not saying you ruin, but if you
are capable of ruining thewedding and I mean like ruining
it in the sense of make herquestion what she's about to, do
not just ruin the pageantry.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
She may be married to
everybody else, but inside
y'all's confines it's differentand you may not know a married
woman yet, but go back throughyour Rolodex and I bet you
there's one or two out there whoy'all's connection is so deep,
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which is probably why y'alldidn't date, because y'all y'all
actually rock with each otherso well and you knew that person
and they knew you and y'allknew that at this time it
doesn't work.
And you got this going on.
That's working.
'all knew that at this time itdoesn't work.
And you got this going on.
That's working.
They got this.
That's going on, that's working.
But there's one or two outthere who nothing defines
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y'all's relationship.
But you two, like no outsideentity, will define what y'all's
relationship?
But you two, like no outsideentity, will define what, what?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
y'all's connection is
yeah.
And then there's just thosemoments of you know where you've
got comfort with somebody,where, um, there's nothing that
you're there's not that you hidethings, but like you don't have
anything to hide, like there'sa very um, unique, open feeling
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that you have, where you cankind of talk about any and
everything and it just be asstraight as an arrow, like it
just it's all there, it's allleft out there and it's, and
it's okay you know what, andeven experiencing different
things together.
There are certainly people thatare like that.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I think the long-term
platonic girlfriend is the one
you're more connected to, Evenif y'all aren't platonic today.
But you built a long-termplatonic friendship Because
that's the one you're mosthonest with.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Like you're
comfortable telling her you're
bullshit because she can't holdit against you and that further
deepens the connection untily'all are together, and then you
can't tell her your bullshitanymore because now she's gonna
be hurt by it yeah, what I justsent you.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
By the way, that's
something we'll bring up,
obviously, once we truly get tothe culture of it all.
But uh, I just oh, oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's on the list well,but I just the fact that ab puts
that, it just you know it, itjust I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
But you know I got
scared that you were gonna, like
you're telling me to backpedalout of this topic no, not at all
, no, I just it popped up on mytwitter feed and I just yeah I'm
holding it in, obviously, butyou know you have those lols on
the inside.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
That's that's what I
just thought there, and so, yeah
, it's a it's a crazy messed upworld.
But see, that's the fear too.
It's like it's acceptable to bein the position of a shannon
sharp, in a sense of because heis rich as fuck and like that's
the only time I feel like anyonewould maybe necessarily want to
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be at his age doing that.
And it gets back to what we'retalking about currently, because
it's like, well, what are thechances of you running into
somebody that you're okay withdoing that with?
You know what I mean To whereyou are open and it is platonic
to that point.
You don't want to just marrysomebody.
It can be business, of course,but that's almost the kind of
way that it feels like it'sgoing to go anyways.
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It won't be a truly enjoying myperson type of thing.
It'll be always something elseEither.
Well, her ass is fat.
I really like hitting her ass,like you know.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Oh, I have a child
with him.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Oh I, you know she's
rich as fuck.
She makes a lot of money, so Ican be taking.
There's no pressure for me tomake a ton of money.
I feel like those are going tobe these outside reasons why I
don't foresee myself meetinganyone that I haven't already
known and being able to developa relationship that is very much
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so platonic but romantic at thesame time, like.
I don't foresee that happeningfor me personally, I don't.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Me neither.
It takes too long to buildthose bonds and connections, and
I'm not going to build afive-year platonic bond at this
point in my life.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
That and then just
think about it too.
Not that they have to know youyour entire life.
I've had a couple of bad thingshappen to me in my life.
It would be hard for me toexplain to them the meaning of
people in my life and all thisother stuff too.
You have to meet me at my nowas opposed to my then, and it's
not about back then, but theidea of like there just are,
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like, certain things that havechanged so much about me to
where it's hard to explain tosomebody like this is why I am
the way I am, like there areinstances in my life, whether
it's death or it could beanything just an experience, all
this stuff that I had to gothrough with, this business
stuff.
I never thought that somethinglike this would happen.
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It could be anything.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
You know what I mean.
It's funny what I'm goingthrough now.
I keep the people around metight because when you're in
like that weird holding period,how do you describe it to
somebody who doesn't know andyou not that you want to
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disclose your personal business,but you may not want to lie to
him either.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
So, like with the
honesty, the honesty could mess
up the temporary that you'relooking for, just because, hey,
like I'm trying to keepeverything above board with you.
Yeah, and it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, it, just it,
just it's just one of those
things and shit's crazy.
Yeah, it's just one of thosethings, and so like I don't have
that expectation.
If it happens, you know that'dbe great, but like I don't have
that expectation and Ipersonally I think I could live
with being the guy that is inhis 50s.
That's like smashing youngerchicks, but like, at the same
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time, I don't think that that'snecessarily what I want, fuck.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
And we can probably
just spin into Shannon from this
, since we're here.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
We haven't gotten
into any sports.
We can just kick off withfucking culture, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
So I could his
setup-ish right, not the long
term, but if I'm in my 50s andI'm smashing on something
younger, it needs to be very,very much.
You know what this is?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
It's directly, I'm
not.
It's directly I'm paying forsex.
No, I didn't say that.
That's what that is, though forhim I mean, it's not that.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
But I can't do that
long term Not with you.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I'm not giving you an
allowance to have sex with me
every time I'm going to pay forit the initial.
And if you an allowance to havesex with me every time, I'm
gonna pay for the initial.
And if you're gonna keepfucking with me, maybe
eventually you're gonna getthings, just because I now we
like, I like you like you knowwhat I mean, but like, yeah, I'm
not.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
It's not gonna be a
ten thousand dollar every time I
smash well, no, for me theyoung chick is only good In the
words of Wayne For a wet spotand friction, because me, at 33,
I don't want to have.
I doubt that there are many 20year olds, 22 year olds, 23 year
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olds who are going to, who haveexperienced enough life To have
the types of conversations thatI'm interested in having when
it comes to being in thepresence of a woman, and I don't
want sex.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
That too, but that's
the other part of it.
That's why it is straight upthis is a sex thing.
This is not a.
We're not.
We'll go out and hang out andstuff, but we're not wearing a
pillow, talking, and even our goout and hang out and stuff, but
we're not wearing a pillowtalking and even our go-out
hangout is like concerts orreally good drinks, but we're
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getting fucking hammered andbasically really, what this is
is you are a piece of candy.
I hate to like, demoralize, likethe idea of it, but like you
are a piece of candy, you're outhere with me and this is just
how I roll, type shit, I'm goingto have a bad bitch with me.
Yeah, I clearly got the saltand pepper and shit going, but
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I'm going to always just have apiece with me.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Do you know how long
I've been buying tickets to
events, buying two, not knowingwho the plus one is going to be?
I mean, there was one solidperiod of my life where we knew
who the plus one was going to bebefore we bought the tickets.
There were conversations beforethe tickets were bought, right
Outside of that block, like no,I'm getting two tickets to this.
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Who are you going with?
Nah, we'll figure out in time.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah.
But something hot, yeah,something everybody can enjoy in
a sense of I watch, you knowwhat I mean.
Everybody can enjoy this.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I remember I went to
the Chappelle documentary in
Atlanta, the screening, and thenhe did the stand-up and he
brought out the guest.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I remember taking one
of my homegirls and I looked at
her and I was like I wasn'tsupposed to bring you this, what
you mean, I was supposed tobring some something you know,
and then sometimes it's too lateonce you get there and you're
like, oh god, I should have youknow what I mean, because you
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you kind of under, you're underprepare for the situation in
itself well, I wasn't expectinghim to bring out usher, lil Jon,
ti Monica, some more Atlantapeople who I can't.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
You know what I'm
saying and I also didn't.
I'm sure he would probably dolike a 25-30 minute set, but we
were getting the comedy in thedocumentary, so you just didn't
know what all the show was goingto be and it ended up being a
super fly show and I'm like, hey, yeah, nah, I was supposed to
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break something, but again, thiswas actually during that like
five block, that window.
So I I had to go with aplatonic um friend who is not
some something, because thatwould be disrespectful yeah, for
, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
But I, I guess my
thing is again do you?
You're not really.
I mean, I've tried to beprepared for that type of stuff.
I don't.
I'm not a huge concert goer,though for what it's really
worth and the times I have goneto concerts, certainly, I either
took mar Mariana's mother or meand justice went, you know what
(27:49):
I mean, like that was prettymuch how, how.
Those have always gone for me.
But one of the things, too, isthink about the weddings, cause
we got a couple of other guys inthis group that are going to
get married.
I don't know who's going tonext.
Well, somebody is going to getmarried, like I mean, whether
that's Mr Turner, mr Holsey um,who am I missing out on?
(28:20):
I well, I feel like I'm furtheroff.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I mean, we're about
at the same point now as far as
I'm concerned, but like uh, yeah, no, no, You're closer to me.
I probably am closer, but likeI don't, have prospects and I
still can't sign that piece ofpaper yet.
So you're closer to me.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah, so well, okay,
true, I'm trying to think you
know wild card here, JP.
I know it sounds crazy, butwild card.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Oh, no, no, no, no,
no, no.
I could see jp like hitting agroup text like hey, fellas, I'm
having a bachelor party inthree weeks.
Who can come?
You?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
know what?
Yeah, because half the group isalready down, and so I mean it.
Just I, you know, look at itthis way.
A guy like I know justice isn'thonest.
Well, he's not in the group onInstagram anymore, but you never
know, never know with a guylike him either at this point,
(29:14):
and so I guess I'm just sayingit wouldn't surprise me if
somebody in this group in thenext two years we were at a
wedding and then you you got tofigure out your plus one from
there and like it's stuff likethat, right, like all the
weddings I went to, I bought thesame plus one that will not be
my plus one moving forward, andso it's like you know, and
(29:35):
that's one of those things too,where you gotta that is a you
gotta impress yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
No, you either gotta
bring your wife or you gotta
bring some fly shit.
Yeah, like if you got a balland chain, she has to come.
Because, hey, let me put thisout here, guys, you can be a
piece you shouldn't be a pieceof shit guy, but you can be okay
.
But wherever the wives andgirlfriends are, you better be
(30:07):
on your fucking best behavior.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Well, you better
bring something nice, uh Dale, I
mean.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
if you're in a
relationship, oh well you're
bringing your girl, for the mostpart If you're in a
relationship to the wedding likeyou're bringing her.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
for the most part,
that is what's going to happen.
But I'm even saying likehomecoming right, you can't
necessarily be on bullshit athomecoming if the wives are
there.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
You're so spread out
I mean, I know if somebody's at
your at the tent right and it'slike one of those type of things
.
But you know, it's homecoming'sa special time and for the most
part, the idea would be thatthose people that are
approaching you yes, you need tobe on your best behavior, but
they too probably should be ontheir best behavior.
That's kind of how.
(31:02):
That's what makes homecominghomecoming.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
I don't care what
goes on in their circle, but you
know that there can be anargument from another couple or
an action of a group member thatcan pose a conversation in your
house when you get home and ithas nothing to do with you,
(31:25):
right?
So like respectfully to yourfriends as a man, when you're on
trips with the significantothers, unless you are single,
be on your best behavior.
Or if you're Julian Turner, whocan do whatever he wants
because he's the wild card,right?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Right, right, right.
I mean it works out pretty wellfor him.
As a matter of fact, now, whenI really think about it, julian
Turner has not bought anyone toany of these weddings.
He is the guy that doesn'tbring anyone.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Well, he couldn't
bring anyone to Boynton's
wedding, Right?
Zoe said no, you're not justbringing arm candy.
Yeah, I mean shit, Me and Zoeeven had a conversation at
Eric's wedding and she was likeso y'all are like together,
(32:28):
together, right?
Y'all going to be together,right?
I'm trying to figure out fortickets, you know, for seats and
stuff, I go, yeah.
There's nothing wrong withputting out a disclaimer, you
know no no, no, I respect itbecause I've not paid for an
expensive wedding.
But I've talked to peoplewho've paid for expensive
weddings and you know, if Ispent that much money on
(32:53):
something, I'd be out of studentloan debt.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Yeah, yeah, Getting
down eating the brass tacks on
something like that, but um.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
I mean shit, this
time you do, it's going to be
like.
It's going to be like 60 K forfor an average wedding.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Well, I see.
But see, here's the thing too,lee, I think I'm going to be the
Dick and I hope that everybodywill be okay with me being the
Dick.
My idea was always to have awedding out of the country, and
I'm not talking about Mexico,and I'm not talking about the
Caribbean, I'm talking aboutgoing to Europe, or something.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I've always wanted
the idea of having one of those
type of weddings.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
That's kind of how I
always wanted to get married.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
I think you have to
give everybody a year.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
It'll be more than
enough time for everybody to
plan.
The thing is that I don't knowhow that works, but when it
comes to blocks, I feel like youmight be able to get the
discount, of course, which isthe biggest thing, and in my
case, I am such a big proponentof um, if I can help, I will
(34:04):
help, kind of like even with,even with a thing like vegas or
something like if I can get hmm,just just run us to private jet
and we can all fly overtogether well, that would be.
See, the hope is is that themoney's right by then.
You do, you can pull some,flash it like that, but like
it's certainly at least for theimmediate friend group and
family.
(34:24):
You know what I mean.
And then there's the otherpeople.
But you don't expect I don'texpect it to be a huge, huge
wedding overseas either, like Idon't expect it to be 400.
You know, I don't expect that.
Like I expect it to be about100 people.
Oh well, gosh.
But then you gotta factor intheir family too.
I don't know, we'll see when weget there, but um, you gotta
(34:47):
find her first right yeah,exactly that that might be the
biggest thing.
Who knows, maybe I find her outthere, and then her people are
already out there, and then Igot to be the one that brings
America.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Or maybe you found
her already and you just don't
even know it.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Maybe Maybe Shazard
definitely found his though.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
His is in the form of
a $50 million lawsuit when
apparently get this?
Think about the fact that theysaid he offered 10, which is
that's bad for him as far as I'mconcerned, because that kind of
if that's true, that's himadmitting guilt to a degree, but
it's also greed on the chicksend.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
I disagree that it's
an admission of guilt because he
offered it before it wentpublic $10 million, lee, no, no,
no, I'm with you.
The perception is guilt.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
But if Nigga, that
ain't no, nolo putty, I'm with
you.
But if he's done his math, on,but if nigga, that ain't no, no
low putty.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
But if, if he's done
his math on how much it's gonna
cost to fight this and how muchpotential earnings he could lose
, because ESPN can drop him andhis.
Whoever he brings club SheaShea 2 to distribute or be in
Shea Shea media, they drop theprice down, yeah, whoever he
brings.
Club Shay Shay to.
(36:16):
To distribute Club Shay ShayMedia they dropped the price
down so that 10 million a lot, afucking lot could have been the
.
I don't even want this to comeout and I'm going to go to a
certain point because I know Ihave, and I'm going to go to a
certain point because I know Ihave it, or I'm going to make it
(36:40):
back and this never comes out.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
And you got to think
a guy like Budsby, this chick,
doesn't have all the money inthe world.
I'm sure that maybe herOnlyFans does okay, I don't know
how much money she makes butyou got to think that he
probably is doing this pro bonoanyways in the world.
I'm sure that maybe herOnlyFans does okay, I don't know
how much money she makes, butyou gotta think that he probably
is doing this pro bono anyways,to a degree it's a
commission-based thing for him,because he knows I can continue
(37:06):
to fight it.
You might not have the money tokeep shelling out to me to
continue to fight this, butbecause I can just do it and
then take my own action, becauseI know we're going to win.
You know you're going to stillend up.
You'll end up getting more than10, but you're not going to get
50.
Like you aren't getting 50.
I'm going to get 25, 30.
You're going to get 20.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I hope, I hope, I
hope Now, if Shannon did
anything wrong, hey, whatever,but I hope he didn't do anything
outside of their establishedrelationship and I hope she gets
nothing.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Do you think?
Did you hear the latest onethat came out, the latest?
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Video Audio.
I didn't listen to it.
I got it right here.
I can play it.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yeah, it's so weird
because it I got it right here I
can play it.
It's so weird because it seemslike this is cut up.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Let me introduce a
topic.
Hey guys.
Shannon Sharp is being sued for$50 million for sexual assault.
Okay, okay, I'll play it herewe go.
Okay, you're coming to LAtomorrow.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yes, oh, this is
doctor.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Well, I don't know
why you want to go out.
Don't worry about it, Daddy.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
You see how long the
pauses are right.
Yeah, bro, Don't nobody talklike that on the phone.
Okay, Okay what I'm not reallyinterested in getting choked, so
I guess we're going.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yeah, I might choke
you in public.
It keeps going.
I choked small white woman.
It's not a good book, Shannon.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Not a good look that
you did with the shit you did to
me, okay, well, okay.
Well, look, man, I don't knowwhat happened.
(39:45):
And again, if he did some stuff, that's real deal.
Sexual assault.
Like really, really crossed theline.
Because I will always say thisthis may be toxic masculinity, I
don't care.
There are.
There is gray area to where youcan cross the line that on
(40:07):
paper is sexual assault, butit's not.
It is not you maliciously,unknowingly trying to harm or
call or something that golly,this sounds terrible should
cause like extreme trauma, right.
Like if you're making out, likeif you're making out with a
chick and you're grabbing assand then you go to try to finger
her and she goes no stop, andyou stop.
(40:30):
Well, you, touching on herprivate parts is unwanted sexual
contact, but you were catchinga vibe and then, when she told
you to stop, you stopped, rightthen more importantly, if you'd
already had sex before.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
That complicates it
even more, because then it's
like well, we've done thisbefore, you've been okay with it
, now you're not, so alrighthere I stopped, you know.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
But now, I don't know
what now?
Speaker 1 (40:58):
I don't even know
what your signs are.
I don't know what we're, whatwe're doing we're changing, you
know?
Uh, the yellow light is nowturning into a red so you know
what I'm just gonna go.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
But for a guy like
Shannon, you have to be smarter
about how you move.
Mess with older women who havesomething to lose, because if
they have something to losethey're not here to pimp you out
(41:35):
or they'll come up.
Or if you're going to go youngdog, that better be one of your
daughter's home girls.
You know, I'm saying likesomebody who's vetted bro, he's
in his 50s, he got kids in likelike the mid-20s.
He got married kids, he gotgrandkids man yeah, I know, but
(41:57):
I'm.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
You say I'm daughter
or friend.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
I'm not saying a
childhood friend, I mean like a
grown friend, like not on some.
The point being is, if you'regonna.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
There are co-workers
that came over for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah that
you know.
You know the sentiment of whatI was getting at, but thank you
for providing.
I want to clear it up.
Thank you for that, because weneed that.
But no, bro, just I can usemyself for an example.
I've turned down a lot of sexin my life because the risk
(42:39):
wasn't worth the nut.
Like whatever could have beenat risk you know what I mean
Wasn't worth the nut.
And don't get me wrong.
I've taken some risks that werenot worth the nut, but that's
life happens.
But sometimes, bro, it's justlike bro, it's not worth a nut.
But that's Life happens.
But like, sometimes, bro, it'sjust like bro it's not worth it.
(43:00):
And I know Charlamagne kind ofwent in on him About it and I'm
not even Going to attack it fromlike a creep point of view.
That's a different conversation.
But more so, bro, you gottahave Sex with the people who
you're supposed to have sex with, not the people you want to
(43:21):
have sex with, because you canwant to have sex with somebody
and they can want to have sexwith you, but y'all ain't
supposed to be fucking eachother because of what happens
after the fact and it's a hardthing to do and vet.
But like, bro, you gotta dothat stuff, man.
Like you can't have this, youcan't have this little girl
trying to come up off your nameLike $50 million.
$50 million right before acontract negotiation, while he's
(43:43):
in contract negotiations.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
And apparently she
moved from LA to Vegas.
Like he moved from LA to Vegasand I heard somewhere she did as
well at some point.
So I don't know, man, dog movesmarter.
That's the reason why industrypeople have sex with the same
(44:07):
people.
It's safe.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
There's a ton of NDAs
signed.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Everybody has herpes.
It's okay.
There's a ton of NDAs signed.
Everybody has herpes, it's okay, that's a joke.
Allegedly no one has herpes.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
We don't know
Something's going on out there,
I ain't putting herpes on nobody.
And that's exactly why you know,when people come for our
glorious king, king James, andhis wife, somebody that did it
the right way, yeah, you know,everybody comes to bat for guys
like him and then those guysthat show up to his game.
(44:44):
You know, with his ran-throughpiece of ass, who's now turned
over a new leaf herself?
I guess you know it getsinteresting, it gets interesting
, it gets interesting.
That's why it's weird Someonelike a Shannon Sharp being in
his position and everybodywonders how a guy like LeBron is
able to stay grounded.
He's had Savannah since thebeginning.
(45:08):
It's so funny.
They showed that clip of him.
I saw something on YouTube.
You know who Maven is right,former wrestler.
He's got such an interestingYouTube though of him.
I saw something on YouTube.
You know who Maven is right,former wrestler.
Yeah, he's got such aninteresting YouTube, though I
know I've sent you some videosfrom his channel.
Yeah, yeah, well, he did one,and I guess he the time LeBron
was at Raw, and then he's gotSavannah with him even then
(45:30):
Think about this LeBron.
I'm not going to say it'scalculated, it was his
girlfriend, he was 18.
But like this guy, it seemslike he's bulletproof, right,
Like LeBron James is bulletproofand we all know whether anyone
wants to admit that.
We know, we know and that'sokay because she knows, so she's
(45:54):
okay with it.
Now I don't know if that, Idon't know if it still goes on.
Now, I mean, but there's areason.
He didn't marry her until hegot to Miami.
Yeah, Probably found out.
He's like I'm going to get infucking trouble out here Because
in Cleveland he's protected.
He's the native son.
It's not much to do out there.
(46:17):
Cameras aren't flashing everytwo seconds.
Even with him, people will cometo Cleveland, but they're not
really going to Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
We know there are a
lot of attractive women there
because it's a major city.
Even if it's a smaller market,it's still a three-sport city.
There's pretty people there.
Yeah there's women.
Where there's millionaires andbillionaires, there's attractive
women.
So then you go to Miami and nowthere's pretty women everywhere
(46:50):
.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
And there's all
different flavors.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Uh-huh, rich, poor.
Spanish, english, white, black,mixed Asian, caribbean,
caribbean.
Legal illegal green cardcitizenship BBL Big titties,
natural BBL, pretty toes, peanutbutter skin Porn starskin Porn
(47:16):
Stars Different.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Profession of Women
Actresses.
A lot of strippers.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Yeah, rappers who are
going to invite you to their
stuff, yeah, celebrities gothere, you know.
Star Island, epstein Island,cuba Good, junior, the Keys.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
And the Keys, yeah,
the Keys.
Have you ever been to the Keys.
No, we went for Katora's 30thbirthday and honestly didn't
like the hotel type of condos.
I thought it was overpriced forwhat we got.
But in terms of like going downthere and like hanging out, I
(48:05):
kind of liked it down there.
I thought the food was good,the drinking was cheap.
It's got a unique culture.
You know, they got like nakedbars and like down there there's
a lot of going on, but um, wars, yeah, there got like naked
bars and shit, like down thereit's a lot of shit going on, but
um, yeah, there's like nudebars, like in the city, on the
(48:28):
street.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
I could do nude
beaches.
I'm not really into nude bars.
I'm not just trying to be likesitting on a bar stool, bare ass
well, and then there's just aguy serving you and his junk's
out.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
He's like what can I
get you?
It's just like what?
Nigga, like nothing.
Put some goddamn pants on.
Is what you can get me.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Like, yeah bro, like
I, I don't.
I'm not a big fan of talking tomen in boxers well, it'd be
just like walking around.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
We didn't go that far
because somebody had warned us,
but it would be just like beingat the sporting club.
You know, at the gym, you knowit'll be these old guys walking
around with their nuts out andyou just look at it, it's just
like, damn bro, you're not gonnathere's.
You got a towel in your hand,just I get.
We're in a men's locker room,but like you don't have to walk
around like this, we're not atjju where there aren't towels.
(49:12):
Like there's a towel, it's afull towel at that.
Wrap it around yourself, man.
Have some respect for the othermen in this locker room.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
It was a dude in
there one day in whitey tighties
talking to me and he stoppedwhat he was doing, stopped
getting dressed to talk, andhe's talking to me about some
show and I'm like bro, I have onheadphones.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
You don't have on
pants.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
This isn't the taller
guy with glasses.
Is it kind?
Speaker 1 (49:43):
of looks a little
funny yeah, kind of european.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
Maybe I know who
you're talking about he got you
one day.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
No, he always.
I mean, I've seen him for years, that guy.
He just likes to talk randomlyto people, especially in that
sitting area right in front ofthe TV.
Yeah yeah, I know who you'retalking about.
He's a, I think, but I thinkthat he might be off too.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
So that you know what
, now that you say that you
could be right, I think he'sprobably.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
I mean, I'm not going
to try and diagnose him with
something, but I think he'sautistic or something.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Yeah,
high-functioning though.
Yeah, like he has a job.
Yeah, yeah, he can afford to goto that gym.
Correct by itself.
You know, I had one of the oldguys got me in the fucking hot
tub one day, got you?
What do you mean?
I'm thinking I'm'm gonna go hopin the hot tub.
You know, do a little recovery.
Yeah, just cock and balls justfloating on the top and I'm like
(50:43):
bro I.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
I now you're gonna be
mad at me whenever I go in
there, believe it or not, I Idon't wear anything either I'll
take a towel.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
I take a towel.
Yeah, I take a towel.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
I'll take a towel.
Yeah, I'll take a towel in, andthen I hop in naked though.
I'm naked when I get in there.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
I don't hop in the
hot tub naked because I'm
usually never in there by myself.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
I will typically not
get in unless I'm the first
person to get in.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
You know what I mean.
I'm not going to get in therewith cock and balls just sitting
there and then just insert mycock and balls Ball.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
But I obviously I
don't want to be the dickhead
either that wears the towel anddips in with the towel.
It's just, that is like work.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
That's even worse
etiquette in my opinion, those
towel boys get paid yeah, butgetting it's, it's just that is
like work, that's even worseetiquette, in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
Like those child boys
get paid, yeah, but getting in
with the, it's just like come on, man, I, I don't know.
I mean, obviously I go into thesauna in the steam room toweled
up.
I have my my towel around mywaist, I have another towel that
I put my phone in and fold itup so it doesn't get too hot,
and then I have another towel tochange into once I'm done
sweating.
So I take three towels with meinto the steam and sauna.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Why don't you just
grab a new towel when you get
out to sauna, because I don'tlike walking around with the
naked, sweat, and then it'll bedirt and stuff.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
I just like to be
fresh and then, plus, as soon as
I get out of there, I dofive-minute resets.
I'll get water.
Oh, and then the other toweltoo.
It covers up my water, becausethen you know, if you get a cup
in the front, that's plastic,first you can get ice in it.
I'll get two of them.
Put ice into the locker and letit sit in there.
(52:33):
It doesn't melt fast enough.
You have ice water for thewhole time that you're there.
You can do a good I mean me andJess as we go in there.
I do.
We would do three sets.
I'd do 20, 25 minutes.
The first one rest 15 minutes,the next rest, then go to the
skating room, do 10, rest andthen do one final one of like 10
(52:55):
minutes in there.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
Yeah, we know you're
not lifting.
Speaker 1 (52:59):
Well, it depends,
like there have been times where
I don't.
Well, even if, yeah, Itypically was never lifting, but
if I did cardio or playbasketball or something like it
would be, I would play first, Iwouldn't go in there, first
i'd'd play and then I'd do thatlater.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
You ain't running two
hours of hoops than doing a
goddamn hour and a half hour 15in Sama.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
Yeah, I know it's not
two hours.
What it is is y'all go in there.
Whenever I would playbasketball, get in on a game.
It depends on how many peopleare in there, because if you've
got to wait two to three gamesbefore you play again, then it's
just I'm going to play thisgame and if we win I'm staying
on, of course, but if we loseI've got to wait two, three more
games.
I'm getting the fuck out ofthere.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
There's nothing worse
than going in there and there
being too many people for onecourt but not enough people for
two courts yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
So you're talking 13,
14 guys, yeah, or even 16,
because you could have four onfour going well, not 16, but
yeah, like 13, 14 guys.
You got enough to where you goteight here but you don't have
eight over there to do four onfour.
And then, or there'll be somecases too where I haven't there
(54:20):
haven't been guys that werepracticing very long but like
because Tarson and them used topractice and would get the court
, but, like you know, there'llbe motherfuckers like training
they son or maybe they got apersonal basketball trainer and
then they kind of need one ofthe goals.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
Hey, hey, hey, hey,
hey.
Not on Monday, wednesday,Friday or Saturday morning, bro,
these are pickup times.
It's in the rule book.
You know we've talked for anhour and you know what we hadn't
talked about in our quasi-gayconversation.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (54:55):
Apparently Kanye
blowing cock until he was 14.
Speaker 1 (55:04):
Yeah, I mean he
shared that.
Obviously I thought that was aninteresting revelation.
In a weird way, it almost mademe think like, okay, is this
what like, for instance, drakewas trying to like?
Is this what like, for instance, drake was trying to like, use
against you, for instance?
Because I don't feel like thisis the first time he's told
people this, so I feel likethere are people that knew this
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already.
Obviously the world didn't know, fans didn't know, but, like,
in terms of collaborators,friends are certainly Kim and,
like Amber, yeah, bianca.
I feel like those people knewthis already.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
I mean, they had the
rumors that Amber was like pagan
.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
I don't know I don't
either.
Speaker 2 (55:54):
I don't know, I don't
either.
I honestly don't care, becausegay or straight keep making the
slaps, stop tweeting, and ifsomething messed up happened to
you as a kid, it can kind ofexplain a lot of what we see
here in the music.
Speaker 1 (56:20):
Yeah, and again,
obviously we don't know him
personally, but I, I think you,we you alluded to this when we
did a show not too long ago.
We talked about how somebodylike him is is such a genius,
right to the point of where it'slike I, I can only imagine,
like what, what this guy'sthinking, it just in a sense of
like okay, he's seemingly comingup with all this creativity and
(56:44):
it's just like he's harnessingthis somehow, some way, and
there's something that is behindthis.
Like I, I can't help but feellike maybe, of course, that's
had something to do with it.
If that is, you know, in fact,true, right, which we have to
take it for face value and saythat it is true.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
But you know, I think
JP summed it up perfectly he's
just said so much wild shit thatjust no one really cares about
this one said so much wild shitthat just no one really cares
about this one.
You know, we forgot to talkabout Steve's response to the
Shannon stuff when we weretalking about it.
Speaker 1 (57:25):
I didn't get to hear
it though.
Speaker 2 (57:27):
He's towing the
company line pretty much saying
you know I brought Shannon here,but you know, talk with the
bosses I'm not the bosses andwe're going to do a thorough
investigation and then adecision to be made based upon
the investigation and I go duhcompany.
Yeah, as I say he could havekept that shit to himself I mean
(57:48):
, well, he made money off ofposting it because you know he
has a youtube channel well, andpeople want to know what he
thinks because he does work soclosely with him, right.
Did you want to know what hethinks?
Speaker 1 (58:02):
Not really no, that's
why I haven't watched it.
I don't really like.
It's like, oh okay, becausewhat difference does it make?
Whatever is going to happen isgoing to happen.
If he's guilty and there's away that they can prove it, or
he's willing to settle for more,then there you have it, like I
mean, that'll say enough to me.
If it ends up having to go tocourt, it'll be interesting to
(58:24):
see.
Well, how does that stuffaffect his deals?
Is it tabled?
Does he get paid leave fromESPN?
How does that end up workingfor him?
Speaker 2 (58:34):
You know, if it goes
to to court, like if this is
something that goes to courtlike I think the way that he's
standing on it by directlyresponding, he is very
comfortable with the truth andwhat he or he's just a wild
(58:56):
narcissist.
But he's comfortable with thetruth and know that he didn't do
anything wrong.
He's just a freak.
But with the Michelle stuff Ithink he's now more comfortable
With His sexual being being letout Like people just knowing
(59:18):
Like what type of freak he is.
Speaker 1 (59:22):
Nick said the
Michelle stuff.
Speaker 2 (59:24):
I'm just saying, like
once that, once that came out,
it's just like all right, bro,and maybe that was shorty who
leaked that.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (59:36):
That nigga did that
on purpose.
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (59:40):
I agree with you
because he, because of how hard
it is to go online.
That is just, that is not.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
I tossed my phone and
it fucking tapped the edge of
something and pressed it.
That just that's not the waythat works.
Speaker 2 (59:51):
No, no, no, I'm just
saying maybe Maybe Shorty like
pulled up and he was, you knowwhat I'm saying or she got mad
because he wanted to, you know,but then she'd have to have his
log in.
Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
She might I tell you
what if?
Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Shannon's out here
like that, giving bitches access
to shit, like that he's cookedanyways.
If he's doing that like he'scooked, bro, he got a 19 year
old off.
Only fans living in la.
What are we talking about?
yeah like, come on, like let'sbe real.
I'm not saying that if I werein his situation I wouldn't mess
with a young, onlyfans typechick, right, right Again, wet
(01:00:43):
spot and friction.
But if you're talking about myconsistent piece, I'm getting it
off the muscle and she's goingto be something.
If he 50, you know, I'llprobably go for somebody in that
, like kiki palmer, age range,you know, like mid 30s, a kid or
(01:01:03):
two mature like my.
She's like 31 though I'm justsaying like the 30, the mid
earth yeah yeah, just got donewith your 20s, but you're an
adult.
But you're an adult.
Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Yeah, you're an adult
, adult, but then you probably
have also, like you said, mighthave a kid too, or something.
Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Like you've been in a
serious relationship and you're
living In a similar life thatI'm living, so you understand
what comes with this and yourealize that these relationships
are kind of meh and yeah, youknow, I won't be messy, you
won't be messy, it will be good.
Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Yeah, I mean he got
one fresh off the assembly line.
If that chick's 19, and look Iget it.
Niggas love to hop in a newwhip.
Right, it's nothing like thatnew car smell, especially when
you're the first owner.
It ain't nothing like it.
But yeah, he's got to do betterthan that.
(01:02:10):
I can't Give me a classic carman.
Get you a classic car man.
Why don't you go get that car?
You always wanted that.
You didn't have it's an oldermodel, but you always wanted one
just like it.
Yeah, go get you one of those.
I'm sure you can find one.
Somebody's got one that's notvery many miles on it.
(01:02:30):
It's still in pristinecondition.
Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Or it may have a lot
of miles but the engine's been
restored.
You know, go get you a Nia Long, a Lisa Ray.
Go get one of them classicchicks that you really liked in
the 90s, but because you was afootball player like you weren't
really in LA in the summer,because you're training and you
(01:02:53):
got a helmet on and you ain'tlike NBA players where you
actually can go out at nightwhen you're traveling, yeah, go
get one of them.
Just go to the strip club, manshit yeah, there.
Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
There are just so
many other avenues.
I get it.
Onlyfans has made it easier,because that's what that is
think.
Think about it, these chicks intheir bios and stuff.
Everybody's got a link tree.
Everybody's got a managementemail address.
You can reach out to prettymuch whoever you want,
especially if you're paying toplay.
Right, if you're paying to play, ain't going to be no issue.
Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Well, you know,
paying to play, you know that
just really interferes with theintegrity of the game, and I for
one, but that's what it'sturned into.
Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
This is what I'm
saying, that is what this is,
because now you've rotted thebrain of a lot of these chicks
that at least are somewhatpopular online, at least If
they're popular online.
Like you might run into abaddie in real life and it'd be
something completely different,but like you're going to have to
(01:04:02):
know where to hang out.
Everything's got to be on likethe game.
Everything's got to be goodthat day in order to make
something like that happen, whenit can be just easier if you
reach out directly online.
If you're somebody, they'resomebody, you're somebody.
You're going to have to pay toplay because you've got to
entice them with something.
You know what I mean?
There has to be something.
They can't just look at yourpicture and be like oh well,
(01:04:24):
yeah, you're attractive here,let's fuck Like.
That's not the way that that'sgoing to work.
Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Well, get outside and
get it off the muscle.
Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
And I'm sure a guy
like Shay can do that.
You don't use Tinder, no.
Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
I've never used it
and I bet you haven't bagged
much random in DMs never reallynever no, you get outside and
you touch earth yeah, or I meetpeople's friends but that's
still going outside and touchingearth, which even for him, you
(01:05:00):
would think he would know.
Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
You know the people,
especially now being in the
media too, like yeah, what partycan't he get into?
yeah you know and I'm sure thateven in some cases there are
people that have parties thatliterally just invite hot,
younger, attractive women.
But then again, here's theissue, they're probably these
(01:05:23):
only fans, as chicks, like ifthey're not famous then they're
probably online prostitutes,like.
That's like the thing.
There's like a thin linebetween man.
We just found some really hotgirls at EL and LP out in
fucking LA, at this barrestaurant that people go to,
and we invited them to come tothis party.
(01:05:43):
Even if you did cool, then youlook up, somebody goes to their
Instagram.
Damn, this bitch got 150,000followers.
Oh shit, she's got a link tree.
Oh shit, this leads to.
Oh, maybe she's not showing ass, she's not butt naked on her.
She's selling pictures of herin lingerie.
People are fucking buying itbecause she's attractive.
Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
But you know why you
really buy it right.
That's how you open up the DMconversation.
Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
But this is what I'm
saying.
That's what I mean you have topay to play.
That's literally what I mean bythat.
I'm not saying you sitting out,you're like man, $20,000.
Like I need to fuck tonight,like.
I'm not saying nothing like thatI'm just saying you have to
kick it off with something.
Okay, well, we're going to goout to eat or some shit, and
then from there then we talkabout man.
She's like well, I've alwayswanted to go to Bora Bora, and
(01:06:35):
then a nigga is setting that up.
You're paying to play.
You're paying to play.
Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Can I correct you on
just one thing?
Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Go for it.
Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
They are not online
prostitutes.
They are content creators.
Slash models.
Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Okay, and OnlyFans is
their agency.
I get it Like I feel like I'vesent you this chick.
I'm going to send it to you but, like, once the paper is all
the way correct, like this isthe type of chick bro I'm trying
(01:07:15):
to hire, like if I'm going tohit some bit like if I'm gonna
dm email, like try and holler atsomebody, especially if the
chick's not like you know.
Obviously it appears thatthey're single or whatever.
But you've got the bread andit's like, well, I know, my game
is good enough to bag you likeyou know what I mean.
I know that we'll have a goodenough time.
I want to get a chick like thisIG or text yeah, I'll send it
(01:07:44):
to you on IG.
Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Okay, this man talked
it up, a chick like this Like
what I had to find the profile.
You've got action.
Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Yeah, now, this is a
chick that I found back in the
day on Tumblr.
So she was active then andshe's probably a little younger
than me.
She's probably 27, 28.
You ever talked to her, no?
So here's the thing.
I found her on tumblr but fromthere I was like yo, she is like
(01:08:25):
hot.
Like I was like this chick ishot as fuck.
And then from there, once youknow, tumblr kind of died, it's
like I transitioned it.
I was like man, well gosh, thischick's hot.
And like then I found, oh okay,she's an official model, like
she's a real model.
You know what I mean.
Like that's a real model.
She's not an only fans model,she's a model model.
Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Yeah, she does, she
does, she does spreads.
Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
This is what I'm
saying, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
And like I mean a
friend who follows her and when
I tell you he follows all of thebaddies.
Like every time I like, go to,like a baddies page I see
followed by him.
Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
But yeah, bro, this
is, this is a tan, like that's a
tan that's yeah, no, she.
Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
She's a beautiful
woman.
That's a tan.
That is that like this is a 10.
Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
That's a 10.
She's a beautiful woman.
That's a 10.
This is the definition of a 10.
This is a real life 10.
Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
I'd consider changing
my religion.
That's a joke, by the way.
That's a joke.
Hey man, we're an hour in.
We should probably talk sports,because I don't think we need a
three-hour show today.
Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
No, we won't, we
won't.
Plus, we got that game.
I guess it's probably about tostart now NBA playoffs yeah,
let's just go ahead.
Because we're already here, wecan quickly run through.
The OKC series is actually whatwe thought it was going to be.
Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Well, you had some
thoughts on that series.
Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
Well, I had some
thoughts on Adam Silver and his
scheduling.
Maybe that's actually where weshould start this thing off, for
anyone that is listening tothis that ends up hearing it
either now or before tomorrow.
Either now or before tomorrow,who do you know would set up a
Clippers Nugget series to be onNBA TV at 10 pm?
(01:10:23):
Who does that?
Adam Silver, who puts on theseries that the combined point
differential in the first twogames was probably what?
75 or some shit Like that's thecombined like point
(01:10:43):
differential in the first twogames of this OKC Memphis series
.
It's like 75 points.
It's crazy.
It's a guy who's trying andShea didn't have 30 points in
either of these games.
Like this is disgusting, bro,like he's not even playing well
and they're getting hammered.
Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
He's building up his
young stars.
He's making sure they canmaximize the eyes on Shea and Ja
.
I mean these guys are futurefaces of this league.
Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Let me tell you there
are people thinking to
themselves man, they're going toget Ja out of there.
Somebody said, send him toChicago.
Somebody was like that might bethe worst place for him to go.
Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
I mean, it's Memphis,
chicago, chicago's more lit.
Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Well, I'm just
talking about YM culture,
memphis, they got YM culture andthey're more important.
But I'm talking the drill scene.
You know what I mean.
That type of shit in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
The violence, the
guns.
Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
I know Memphis.
Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Tenneke.
Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
Big Juke got killed
at his uncle's funeral.
Dolph got gunned down gettingfucking cookies.
Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Nigga and a lot of
people around the circle that
was responsible for YoungDolph's murder have been
dropping like flies.
Bad in Memphis.
They need to get job, jobs to acoastal city.
(01:12:16):
They just need to go ahead andjust put Ja on the pedestal that
he deserves to be on.
But back to Adam Silver and histerrible programming.
Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
What it's already bad
enough that they schedule that
Then you do it.
Of course, it's on the firstnight of the NFL draft, so, like
real football fans are going tobe watching the draft, Like
people are going to watch thedraft, especially because
there's so much uncertainty thisyear.
Honestly, Like it is not laidout on who's going to get
(01:12:55):
drafted where.
I guess now, and we'll get tothe NFL after this, but I guess
Cam is going one.
But like, aside from that, Ifeel like everything else is up
for grabs nobody knows who'sgoing where, and so, um, that
creates more intrigue.
But to top that off, then BigAdam is like all right, let's do
(01:13:15):
this, let's get the mostentertaining series that we've
had thus far through two gamesin the playoffs.
Put it on nba tv at 10.
Let's do that.
Let's put the fucking blowouton tnt.
Let's get, let's get reggiemiller to call this game with
marv albert.
Let's do that.
And then let's get who's the?
(01:13:36):
I don't even know who the fuckdoes the.
Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
NBA TV games.
Brandon Haywood and somebodyHaywood's actually pretty good.
You know I don't listen to thecommentators.
Well, I like him just as a talk, he's good.
Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
When I've heard him
on pot, he's good.
Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
He's good too.
Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
Yeah, he did pretty
well on the FanDuel thing.
I saw that.
Yeah, he sounded pretty good.
Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Yeah, they should put
Boogie on ESPN and not Marcus
Morris.
But conversation for anotherday.
Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
You're the nigga
that's just dying to get some
sort of At this point.
They just put a mic in front ofa nigga and they're just like
come on man say something.
Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Hey, you played with
LeBron and Kawhi.
Tell us something.
Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Isn't his brother
still in the league?
Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Yeah, actually
Markeith played with LeBron.
Yeah, yeah, Hold on.
Yeah, Markeith, because he's onthe Lakers right now.
Is he One of the Morrisons wason the Lakers because he was
right there.
Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
I know they were.
Is he on there now?
I mean, he done, gave him PTthere, no.
Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
Nah, because he was
in street clothes when Braun was
pulling up on Stephen A, Ithink.
Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Let me see Mark Heath
.
Yeah, he's on the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
He was a part of the
Dallas trade.
Yeah, okay, I thought so youknow.
Boink referred to him as Chief.
Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
Queef.
Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Yeah, but why?
Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Because of how the
Keith and his name.
Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Yeah, because he was
doing dumb shit in the bubble.
That's an interesting call byBoink.
Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
I don't know where
he's getting it from.
You know, actually actuallyfunny true story.
We, uh man, we ran into himboth of the brothers and uh john
wall, at the mgm in dc.
We went to some festivalbroccoli festival or something
and they were at the mgm.
They had a private tableplaying crap.
Yeah, they had a private tablebut yeah, we ran into them after
(01:15:36):
the concert there.
Funny, funny enough.
Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Man, john Wall, made
a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
And you know a lot of
that money he made.
He didn't even have to doanything.
That's what makes it so great.
Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
He was on PTO oh
extended PTO.
Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
I mean, you would
have thought this nigga was
giving a sabbatical.
Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
I mean the nigga tore
a ACL, then popped an Achilles.
Don't wish it on anybody,because he definitely should
still be playing in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
But then that happens
and then he gets traded to
Houston.
Then they're like man, we'retrying to suck, we're going to
pay you to just stay away.
Even though you're healthy Kids, don't come back.
How about that?
Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
He was like 19 and 8,
19 and 9, too.
It's like, oh, John Wall'sstill good at basketball.
Then he went to the Clippers,remember.
Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
Yeah, and we see how
that turned out.
You know honestly, Well,they're trying to do the same
thing with Ben Simmons now.
Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Look here, tyloo.
He's the nigga where you go torejuvenate your career, or at
least try.
Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
Yeah, I'm looking at
this John Wall with Houston.
He was 20 and 7.
Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
Yeah, bro, he was a
good basketball player.
That shouldn't have ended hiscareer.
Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
This guy missed so
much time.
Yeah, he got paid to do nothing.
That's so crazy.
But you know, I guess that'slike the theme in sports now.
Now it's get paid to do nothingLike that might be what
everybody really wants to do,can I?
Get paid and not have to doanything.
Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
Wouldn't you want to
be Bud right now, getting paid
by two teams?
Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
I'd love to be Bud.
I'd love to be Bud.
A guy like Bud do you think?
Bud probably doesn't evenfucking watch basketball.
He's not even watching theplayoffs right now.
It's like he's already hadenough of it anyways, and it's
just like the only thing thatBud watches is his bank account.
(01:17:45):
He wants to make sure that onthe 1st and the 15th, that those
deposits are hitting, as longas he sees Phoenix.
I don't know what the group'sname is or how they pay it out.
I doubt it just says PhoenixSuns, milwaukee Bucks, but
whatever trust or foundationthese owners have, that they pay
(01:18:05):
it out of as long as that namepops up and he sees the dollar
amount and it matches up witheverything that he was told by
the agent.
Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Hey, that nigga Bud
probably be sitting on a boat
drinking some wine smoking acigar.
Right Group FaceTime JimmyHaslam and Matt Ishbia.
Hey, jimmy itch, my depositdidn't hit yet.
What's going on over there, bud?
(01:18:37):
Tomorrow's the first.
Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
Yeah, but you know my
bank bank, we get paid a day
early and I they're not.
They're not showing it aspending I.
Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
I see nothing.
What's going on here?
Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
I don't want to have
to sue you but I will, hey, but
think of that, and then thenhe's like so there's someone in
the background asking him.
Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
He's like not right
now.
Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
If you could, could
you give me another one of those
shrimp cocktails though?
Thanks, and then he goes backto the conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
But that's not your
wife.
What's your wife on the boat?
Come on now.
Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
Well, he said that,
but then he's also like oh, oh
no that's just the cateringcompany.
But we don't see, we don't hearanybody else like I know well,
because I had to come over hereto make sure you could hear me I
need my fucking money and Ineed it now.
So I'm on the other side.
Everybody else is actually overthere having fun.
(01:19:39):
I'm not having fun because I'mpaying for this and I don't have
the money to pay for it becauseyou haven't paid me.
Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
I'm trying to gamble.
Yeah, it's like I'm trying to.
I see that they've got thePhoenix Suns 2025, 2026 season
total set at 37.5.
I really want to take the under, but because I don't have my
money I can't bet it.
And then Jimmy is like I seeyou guys are down 0-2.
Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
I'm all in on the
sweep, baby.
I'm not coming back to theleague, you can't let me come
back.
But I mean, the series that wecare about are Lakers,
(01:20:34):
timberwolves, clippers, nuggetsand New York.
That's really it, I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
New York-Detroit
might have a little twang to it.
You know what?
Detroit has to win that gametomorrow for us to really get
put on notice, because thenyou're like, okay, for what it's
worth, this series is probablygoing six if they win tomorrow.
Yes, absolutely, but I feellike it's more important for
them to win tomorrow than it isto win game four.
(01:21:00):
And I say that because the ideaof them going up 2-1 really puts
all the pressure on New York asopposed to if they go down 2-1,
then all the pressure is backon Detroit because then it is a
must-win game in game four,because if they lose then
they're going out five.
So tomorrow is way moreimportant because it puts all
the pressure on New York.
Even if New York wins game four, you're still in a good spot
(01:21:23):
because now it just sets up agame five.
That becomes super pivotal.
But the pressure still remainson the Knicks.
But if the Knicks go up 2-1,all the pressure is on you.
Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, cat
has to score in the second half
.
Yeah, man, I have.
I've been watching the playoffs, but not really.
Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
I'm not locked in
because if he started to become
a bad playoff performer.
By the way, cat, he had acouple of those games against
Denver last year too.
If you remember, he had somepretty-like games in that series
against Denver.
Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
Yeah, I think so, Not
Denver Dallas.
Yeah, I know what you mean.
I think that's just who Cat is.
Because of the way that heplays basketball, Because he has
such an outside-focused gamethat he's going to have the ups
and downs and inconsistencies.
And this year Jalen Bronson'susage rate is entirely too high.
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He's got to do less.
Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
He's been hurt too,
though.
He took a lot of bumps andbruises this season.
Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
I mean just yeah, I
mean game two.
He had, like, he had his 35,and I think the second highest
score was 11, 12, 14 or someshit.
Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Fucking Mikael
Bridges.
Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
Yeah, like, hey,
jalen, less shots man, let's
move that ball around, let's runsome offense.
Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
To me, that's who's
going to really open up the team
, though.
If you can get Mikael Bridgesto give you 20, the Knicks could
damn near almost be unbeatable,as long as Brunson and Cat do
what they're supposed to do too.
Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
If Cat and Brunson
get their.
Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
If they can get you
to 50, yeah, 50 to 55.
Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
I'm saying get you 50
to 60, because that could be
Brunson having 35 and Cat having25.
Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
And Mikael Bridges
gets you a nice 20 off of just
some catching shoe, and thensome action when brunson's on
the bench yeah, three or sixfrom three, couple free throws,
a couple of key, because he's asolid defender too.
Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
So like that's the
other part, like he's doing his
job.
On the other end, we know joshhart's gonna be the glue that
does everything else and og andanobi's kind of similar really
good defender.
It's just a plus.
If he gives you 15, 16, 17points, it's a plus.
Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
Josh Hart is calm
Draymond.
He's just a guy that just playsbasketball.
It's not about scoring.
It's nothing about stats.
Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
Any particular stat.
It's not about scoring, it'snothing about stats.
Any particular stat.
Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
It's just about
playing basketball and doing
what the team needs.
Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
On that play.
Am I being productive?
Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
Bingo.
He's the guy you always want onyour team, but if he's on a bad
team he looks terrible andprobably gets underpaid in his
next contract.
Pretty much Do we want to talkabout that stupid player poll
that very few players voted onand golly, Rick Carlisle just
had a fucking tizzy about it.
Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
I mean they come out
with these things every year and
for the most part we really getthe same results.
I mean maybe I'm wrong.
I know Trey maybe was the mostoverrated really get the same
results.
I mean maybe I'm wrong.
I know trade maybe was the mostoverrated one of the years and
he still was up in the top threethis year he was top, he was
number three last year and rudygobert was number one yeah, but
it's like the same guys.
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They're still, they're stuckthere, and tyree salbert is
certainly someone that gets alot of talked about in terms of
that way.
I mean, think about it.
Tim Hardaway, he wishes that.
He, he wishes I could turn backthe clock, just so I could bust
his ass.
Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
He must be talking
crazy to people.
Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
Who Halliburton.
I mean you saw he's doing theDame time shit to Dame and
Dame's like nigga, I'm top 75.
Whether I deserve to be here ornot, nigga, the league thinks
that much of me.
Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
I'm okay with Dame
being top 75.
Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
But he's the one
player that probably deserved it
the least In terms of I can'tspeak for the 60s guys.
Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
I know what you mean,
From this generation him or AD.
Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
These guys From this
generation, him and AD would
have been the guys thateverybody said.
Certainly Dwight Howard.
I'm more okay with AD being init than I am, dane.
I know that's crazy to say,connor, but who do you think had
a better career?
Ad, ad.
Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
But AD was not the
lead dog on his title team, but
he was the most important piece.
Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
crazy enough.
Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
Yes, and so I think.
Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
Dame deserves it over
Klay Thompson.
Okay, you know what I keepforgetting Klay's on the team.
Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
Klay is probably the
player that you get rid of.
No, Klay didn't make the team,but like he practiced in a
75-practice jersey, like a76-practice jersey the day after
, Like he was in his feelings.
But, Klay, you are a greatshooter, great player, but
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you're a second option, and whatDame has done as a first option
in fucking Portland says moreto me than Clay as a second
option.
Now, Dwight Howard he shouldhave been there.
He should have been there.
He should have been there.
Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
Somebody had put this
up and, just because we're on
basketball, I had seen this onTwitter.
They said rank these three.
It was Dame, Chris Paul andKyrie Irving and they said do
them in order.
And I had to really think aboutit for a second.
But this is the real order.
Well, the real order is ChrisPaul, dame Kyrie.
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That's the order, but in termsof basketball player, kyrie's
the best basketball player ofthe three.
Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
He's the most skilled
.
Definitely he's the bestbasketball player of the three.
Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
He's the most skilled
.
Definitely he's the bestbasketball player of the three.
He's the most skilled, but Iwould take him in one-on-one
against either of them.
Maybe he's the best basketballplayer of the three, but his
accomplishments don't match upwith his skill.
Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
It's kind of like
this Kevin Durant is a better
basketball player than LeBronOffensively.
Yeah he's got a better.
Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
But so does Carmelo.
Carmelo's a better offensiveplayer.
Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
But LeBron, the stuff
that he's good at.
He's so good at it that theceiling is.
The ceilings are pretty muchhere, right.
And I think the same aboutkyrie and dame.
Kyrie can do more, more skilled, better, but like, when you're
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actually playing basketball,what dame does?
I think they?
They kind of level out at thetop, so tomato, tomato with
those two.
When you're actually playingbasketball, what Dame does?
I think they kind of level outat the top, so tomato, tomato
with those two.
But Chris Paul is third.
Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
You think he's third?
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, you're saying in terms ofbasketball player or not,
accomplishment-wise, again, it'sPaul.
Yeah, it's Paul.
Dame, kyrie, if I'm going startbench.
Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
Cut Dame Ky.
Cut Chris Paul.
Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
You know people
forget too.
This is the other part aboutChris Paul.
You got to remember Chris Paul,man.
He's made the all-defensiveteam a lot in his career.
I don't care, but I'm justsaying that just shows the
all-defensive team a lot in hiscareer.
I don't care, but I'm justsaying that just shows the more
complete player that he is.
Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
Pat Bev said he's a
traffic cone.
Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
The league didn't
agree, though.
I mean, he's made the all.
Look at this.
He's made the all-defensivefirst team seven times and then
the second team twice.
So he's a nine-timeall-defensive and he's a
nine-time all defensive and he'sa 11-time all nba he's he's a
12-time all-star I don't carehe's led the league in assists
and steals five times each Idon't care.
Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
I watched him play
basketball, like for players in
the generation that I watch,like I've watched all of these
guys' entire careers, like Iwatched Kyrie and Chris Paul in
college yeah, we didn't watchWeber State, sorry, big dog, but
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I watched them.
So the stats, theaccomplishments, don't mean
anything to me.
Is Chris Paul a better defender?
Yes, but I now don't reallycare about all defense and
defensive awards because Ilisten to how the media
describes defense to me.
(01:30:33):
I go well, yeah, cool, but youhave to watch every game to be
able to really choose the best10 defensive players in the
league and you're not watchingenough ball to know who the 10
(01:30:54):
best defensive players are.
Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
You need to see If
you watch.
Yeah, you're right, you have towatch the game.
There are certain guys, though,that you don't have to watch.
Yeah, you're right, you have towatch the game.
There are certain guys, though,that you don't have to watch
because you already know and I'mnot saying chris paul was one
of those guys.
Obviously, he would get a lotof steals, but the thing is like
dyson daniels every time Iwatched the hawks he was getting
in somebody's ass, like he wasout there.
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You know what I mean.
Like he was, he was I.
It's a shame because he's notgonna win it.
I feel like they're gonna giveit to evan mobley, but like he
really, to me, should be thedefensive player of the year
winner is the best defensiveplayer in the nba.
Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
Still, yeah, like a
kawaii, a lou dort uh jimmy,
three years ago, you know what Imean.
Like these are, and jimmy stilljim.
Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
Jimmy just had five
steals the other night.
I don't care about steals, Iknow what you're saying Like
disrupting the game is more thanjust the stat.
It's not.
Defense isn't a stat.
Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
Like a lot of the
stuff that Draymond does that
makes him a person who can be inthe defensive player of the
year conversation every year andin the conversation for one of
the greatest defenders ever isthe amount of stuff that he
takes away before they have theopportunity to do it.
And you can't quantify it.
You can only go off of playertestimony and like watching the
(01:32:14):
film and having somebody showyou yeah, they were trying to do
this, so I flit stuff here.
I just I bounced over here realquick Jimmy Hedge, even though
our rules says we're supposed toswitch that.
But Jimmy Hedge, because theyhad so-and-so in the strong side
corner and he's fucking 13% inhis last 10 games for corner
(01:32:37):
three, so we'll take that shot.
You know what I mean?
Like little shit, like that.
So I've struggled with thedefensive stuff.
But hey, here I got somethingfor you and I think we can agree
on this.
I know you've heard of thedream team, but have you heard
of the queen team?
(01:32:58):
What's he man?
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
I, I.
I heard about it yesterday inpre-production text messages.
Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
So I'm going to give
you the honors of selecting the
first person to the queen team.
Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
You know it's crazy,
but there's actually really only
one answer for this.
Who's the automatic first pick?
It's jared mccain.
That nigga is the zestiest nbaplayer to ever suit up.
Bro, he's the zestiest one andit's not just because of the
tiktoks, I promise it's.
I'm trying not to pick on whatis considered really, that that
(01:33:36):
generation app Like Instagramwill be our generation's app,
maybe even.
But now Facebook, I feel like,is like before us too Well.
Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
no, facebook got
taken from us by the old heads.
It was out there.
Speaker 1 (01:33:52):
Today.
But I'm saying Facebook stillto me was kind of more.
We were a part of theupbringing of Facebook but like
I feel like it was moreestablished for the group that's
ahead of us.
They're probably stillmillennials like us, but they're
the older millennials, the38-year-olds.
Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
We're really direct
messenger of MySpace.
Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
first, that's what
I'm saying.
I feel like MySpace is moreus-ish.
I feel like Facebook is morethem.
It's the older millennials.
Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
Because I think
Instagram is still powers.
Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
It's the 80s babies.
That's Facebook shit.
Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
I'm saying Instagram,
I think it's more so the group
that's probably about three tofive years younger than us,
because they had it in middleschool and high school.
We didn't have Instagram untilcollege.
Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
But it feels like
it's RF.
It just feels like it's RF.
Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
I think it is by
default, because we don't get
the same carryover.
We don't have the samecarryover of tracking us through
our lives like some of thesekids did.
Unfortunately for us, myspacewent away and so did everything
on it Unless you had it savedsomehow you don't have any of
(01:35:08):
your stuff from MySpace.
Right and we kind ofdisconnected from Facebook, so
we're not adding new Facebookfriends.
So we're somewhere betweenMySpace, Facebook and IG, and
some of us use TikTok.
We're a little bit of dad withSnapchat and Vine.
We're just a weird groupbecause we got so many of these
(01:35:31):
at different phases in our lifethat we don't have our one.
You know, like we had runs onTwitter and then we just stopped
using Twitter regularly.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:35:40):
For sure, but that's
our generation in a nutshell
Anyone that graduated highschool 08 to 12, 13.
Anyone in that range, for themost part.
We're also a part of ageneration where we didn't have
to.
We know what it's like to nothave electronics and to have fun
(01:36:01):
, because we lived in that era,even with the Facebook.
Back then, think about itphones, smartphones, weren't
really a thing, so it's not likeyou're uploading in real time.
Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
Everything that we
did was done and then we had to
go home and upload it later soniggas have to like plug their
phone or plug a camera into thecomputer to upload the pictures.
Yeah, bro, yeah, back to thequeen team.
Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
To the point, and
that's not because of TikTok,
but Jerry McCain is the zestiestnigga to ever put on a boot up
for a fucking NBA game.
That's the zestiest thing.
So he's the first pick.
Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
I'm going to give you
a close second the man of many
voices, carl Anthony Towns.
Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
Yeah, and it would
have been tough, I would have
initially put him, but like hiszest is again, we've talked
about this because even once weget these other people on the
list, look at him.
He's got Jordan Woods right.
I mean, look, I don't thinkthey're gay, but Jared McCain,
(01:37:14):
you could maybe make a case fora man, this nigga, he might be
gay.
You know what I mean?
He's that sassy.
Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
And nobody cares if
he's gay, it doesn't matter.
Yeah, man, this he might be gay, like you know what I mean.
Like he's that sassy and nobodycares if he's gay.
It's like it doesn't matter,yeah, just he might be.
Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
Yeah, he might be,
and we care that the man doesn't
want to live his truth.
So, no, it doesn't matter to me, I don't care, but all right,
well, yeah, jeremy kane, catclose second.
Now the third one, I I'm gonnago ahead and just say it's
albertan.
Um, you know he's, he's thesnow, snow bunny.
(01:37:45):
Uh, impresario, he just forwhatever reason isn't it crazy.
I think I saw maybe it was youthat put it in the group
somebody had put up him likecelebrating like a relationship
with like a white chick, and butthen it's like well, what about
that video of him like in vegasgiving like 50?
Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
it was 50 cent, a
shout out, right, or yeah, it's
like somebody friends too afterafter the gold medal game.
Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
Yeah, maybe you know
she accepts his lifestyle and he
won't do that publicly againmaybe, maybe, well, maybe the
check is so good to where shedoesn't even fucking care, and
so I've got a question for you.
Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
Can I bring in a
retired player?
Speaker 1 (01:38:35):
Well, you're throwing
a wrench here, but yeah, go
ahead.
I don't see why not Starting atcenter.
Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
Out.
Yeah, go ahead.
I don't see why not Starting atcenter Out of Southwest Atlanta
High School.
Speaker 1 (01:38:45):
Oh well, you know, I
thought of him too I thought of
Christian.
Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
Excuse me, give me
Dwight Howard.
Speaker 1 (01:38:51):
Well, he's 100%,
would have been on it.
But see, the thing is yes,obviously, yes, he would be on
it, no doubt.
And it's crazy because thatperception of him only came now,
within the last you know.
Well, his didn't come becauseof on-court activities, it came
(01:39:14):
from him playing with balls offthe court and it being
documented and him not denyingit.
Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
Well, he didn't want
to perjure himself.
Speaker 1 (01:39:21):
Well, his is a
legitimate zest.
Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
But you know, if I
were to use an active player
with this pick, I would takeKyle Kuzma, and that's another
solid choice, certainly the waythat he dresses.
Speaker 1 (01:39:38):
You know, it's weird
because Westbrook is kind of the
guy that started that shit tome when it comes to like players
, and you know, we didn't evensay him yesterday.
So for this last spot I'llnominate two guys, but Jalen
Green, obviously he's anotherone to me, and then, I think,
shea you might even have toargue Shea Gill, just a little
bit Like Shea.
Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
He did have the
sports bra and you know the
commercial and the singing andyeah, dave's not a bad pick.
Speaker 1 (01:40:06):
Yeah, I mean he falls
under that category.
So I feel like you can't reallygo wrong with either of those
two for that last spot.
But of course, again, JalenGreen's got arguably my favorite
.
What would you even want tocall it?
Content creators of all time.
Andrea, Michelle, Maybe Sheagets the spot just because of
(01:40:29):
that alone.
I'm sure Shea's got him abaddie too, but at the same time
I saw her Instagram today.
Speaker 2 (01:40:38):
I don't know how.
Who Shea?
Speaker 1 (01:40:41):
He's public with
someone.
Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
Yeah, they got a kid
and stuff.
Okay, she played soccer incollege, so nice and fit.
Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
Okay, there is that.
And then of course, againhonorable mention.
I don't give a fuck how westside the nigga is.
I think Russ has to almost bethrown on there too, because
Russ is putting on some prettyzesty fits.
Like you gotta remember Russ,like Thunder Russ I mean he does
(01:41:10):
some crazy shit now but like Idon't remember man.
Well, he had the crock top Shit.
It was like I mean he had somenigga was dressed like Kid Cudi,
it was like yo Well, I thoughtyou were about to say Kid Rock.
No Kid Cudi.
Oh, dennis Rodman would be alsoa guy that you'd have to throw
(01:41:31):
on the of the retired guys.
You'd have to throw DennisRodman on there just because
he's just a freak in general.
Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
Yeah, Rashad McCants
too.
It's just the way that he talks.
He talks with his hands andmoves his head a lot.
It's just kind of sassy.
Speaker 1 (01:41:48):
He just has a lot to
say for a nigga that didn't do
anything in the league.
Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
Yeah, but he was a
McDonald's All-American.
Yeah, I know we know hishistory.
Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
I mean yeah, oh Sean.
Williams is another guy thatwould go on that list.
I don't know why and I know hedated.
He was with Kansas Park.
They got a child together.
I always thought SheldonWilliams was just gay, for
whatever reason.
I hated when we drafted him.
Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
We were me, not
because he was gay, right, just
because of his play.
Speaker 1 (01:42:20):
No, he just looked
good to me.
Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
I don't know, I just
always thought he was good.
I'm just saying, like you weremad that we drafted him because
you just didn't think he was agood basketball player.
Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
Yeah, that was whoa,
and if you remember that year
when we drafted him, I mean Ithought, especially a team like
the Hawks, bro, you lack so muchalready you could have really
drafted anyone.
Why didn't they just draft JJRedick?
That was kind of my thought.
We drafted the other nigga outof Duke and not the best player.
Why did we?
Speaker 2 (01:42:44):
do that.
I just think it fouled out likeevery other game.
Sheldon Williams was just sucha wasted pick.
Speaker 1 (01:42:53):
It was just Again.
I just always thought he waszesty too, but that was a bad
draft.
Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
Draft, I mean look at
it.
Speaker 1 (01:43:02):
Kansas Parker,
granted, played in the W and you
know none of them are offlimits, but like I mean, after
being in a relationship with him, she decided to just change.
She turned the whole thingaround for herself like think
about that.
Didn't that kind of screamsomething too?
Like, damn, bro, after you gotdone with her she was like man,
I want a woman.
Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
We don't know if that
was right after.
Speaker 1 (01:43:24):
It was like during.
I mean I'm looking at this,maybe Candace was always by, who
knows?
Speaker 2 (01:43:31):
I'm looking at this
draft and here are the draft
picks after Sheldon Brandon Roy,randy Boy, rudy Gay, patrick
O'Brien, muhammad Sine, jjRedick Hilton, armstrong, thabo
Selfalosha, ronnie Brewer,cedric Simmons, rodney Carney,
sean Williams I'm not even goingto try to read that Ronaldo
(01:43:53):
Balkman, rajon Rondo, I meanKyle Lowry.
Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
I mean, Well, if we
look at the immediate guy that
you could have done and I didn'tremember watching him at
Washington, but Brandon Royobviously sounds like somebody
you probably should have draftedPaul Mills at 47.
You know, I don't know.
I just thought if you wanted tosell tickets, drafting JJ
(01:44:23):
Redick would have made the mostsense.
Speaker 2 (01:44:26):
Because that's 06?
Yeah 06.
Speaker 1 (01:44:27):
Yeah, so I'm trying
to think who's on the team.
I guess you just got Joe, butJoe could play the three, so you
didn't have Mike Bibby yet.
They always kind of had thatglaring hole at the two.
I mean, I know Joe was runningthe two, but like you could have
(01:44:48):
had Joe running the three, youhad Josh Smith and you drafted
Marvin Williams already, butMarvin Williams wasn't starting.
He was still coming off thebench even then.
Speaker 2 (01:44:59):
Well, you know he's
not a starter, but somehow we
drafted him second overall overChris Paul and Darren Williams.
But you know that's a story foranother day.
Speaking of draft, do you wantto hit the draft real quick?
I said it.
I don't really have much on thedraft because this is such a
weird draft.
Cam Ward's the top quarterback.
Speaker 1 (01:45:18):
Do you think he's
going to have the best career?
Probably not Of thequarterbacks, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
Like maybe.
Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
Doesn't Tennessee
seem like such a?
It's such a weird spot.
I mean, the last time I knowthat they drafted.
They didn't even draft Ron Tan,I'm tripping.
Steve McNair is the firstperson I think of right Like, if
you think of the Titans, atquarterback Jake Locker man,
talk about a bust.
He was busty.
He was busty almost off rip too.
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I mean he didn't have anysuccess.
They drafted Vince Young too.
And you know what's crazy?
Vince Young gets a lot ofcredit for, like how it started.
His stats were piss poor.
If you go back and look at his,I mean I don't want to be boxed
for a whole year.
He was bad.
Yeah, I was about to say he wasnot good at all.
I think one of his years hiscompletion percentage was it was
(01:46:12):
like 49%.
Like it was the craziest thing.
I was like how did this work?
I was like how did this work?
And you know, jeff Fisher's theking of going eight and eight.
Speaker 2 (01:46:21):
So it was like and
Fisher?
Well, fisher didn't want himand Fisher can't utilize an
offensive guy quarterback likethat.
Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
I mean he had Steve,
he had Aaron McNair.
Remember, steve McNair was apretty good player.
Steve McNair was a little bitbefore his time when we really
look at, because he was, youcould argue, donovan McNabb put
up bigger numbers, passing, butin terms of like McNair wouldn't
yeah, I know Him and PeytonRico one year but like Steve
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McNair, you could argue, was abetter player than Donovan
McNabb.
Speaker 2 (01:46:59):
Look, I'm not a big
Donovan McNabb fan.
Speaker 1 (01:47:02):
I thought Donovan
McNabb was good, but like,
because the black quarterbacksare him, vic McNabb, like those
were the guys.
Speaker 2 (01:47:10):
And Dante.
Speaker 1 (01:47:11):
Culpepper.
Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
Aaron.
Speaker 1 (01:47:12):
Brooks, yeah, yeah, I
mean.
Well, aaron Brooks was thestarter in New Orleans, probably
four years that whole early,like 2000 to 04.
Speaker 2 (01:47:23):
The Ricky Williams
early Deuce McAllister years
yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:47:26):
Yeah, fucking.
Dante Stallworth, joe Horn.
Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
So for the viewers
right, we're touching on the
draft a little bit, but we'regoing to have a much more
thorough recap because we'reactually going to the Falcons
draft party.
We may do like a stupid livewhile we're there, Probably not
because there's booze there andthere's probably going to be
some broads and Falcons footballand pulling out the phone and
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talking is probably not going tohappen.
Going to say it out loud yeah.
Yeah, shadur is dropping and Ithink that's best for him.
I think all of thesequarterbacks need to go to a
place that wants them, notnecessarily needs them, where
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the coach and staff, the GM,they have time there, whether
they're brand new or they have aproven track record, so that
they can craft a team that bestsupports those quarterbacks.
I don't think any of them aretransformational and I've seen
this stuff start to come out.
On Jalen Milrow yeah, heprobably has the most skill but
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he's not consistent.
Yeah, I don't know.
Falcons, go pass rush man.
Go pass rush Trade for JalenRamsey and Kirk Cousins tomorrow
.
Yeah, please don't overthink it.
Speaker 1 (01:49:02):
That's the only thing
I want the Falcons to do.
Don't overthink the pick.
It's really not that hard.
You know another guy thatpiqued my interest a little bit,
and only because of the waythat Rich Eisen talked about him
and, granted, he's a Michiganhomer, but the corner out of
michigan will.
Johnson, yeah, is apparentlysomebody that he kind of took
(01:49:25):
this past year off but that ifhe had came out last year a lot
of people felt like not only ishe the first corner off the
board, but maybe, maybe he was abona fide, can't miss top 10.
I, if you're not gonna get, getJalen Ramsey.
I'm not mad, maybe at that, andthat just depends on what pass
rushers are off the board, andthat's if we stay put.
Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
We know that it's
something you've got to address,
but if we can, upgrade it, thatCB2,.
Speaker 1 (01:49:52):
I'm not mad at that
either.
Speaker 2 (01:49:55):
Yeah, no, I won't be
mad at that either.
The thing about the Michigankid, though, was apparently he
didn't test well and his stockwent down after football season,
which I'd be excited to draft.
Somebody whose stock fell afterhe stopped playing football.
That means, okay, we startedcaring about the stuff that
(01:50:16):
doesn't matter.
Let's care about football.
Speaker 1 (01:50:20):
Yeah, exactly, and so
, but those are pretty much it.
I mean, the only other thing Icould think of is where do you
think Shador goes?
I think New Orleans gets him.
I really do.
I don't think the Giants aregoing to draft him and I don't
see him unless somebody tradesup.
I don't see him falling pastNew Orleans.
Speaker 2 (01:50:40):
I think New Orleans
is going to draft him the talk
around town.
Is they like Dart more?
Speaker 1 (01:50:45):
I'd be okay with that
though.
Speaker 2 (01:50:48):
In a weird way, it
kind of makes me a little happy.
Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
I kind of like
Jackson Dart, but Jackson Dart
also is just so similar to MattCorral to me in a sense of.
I feel like when I watched bothof them at Ole Miss I saw the
same thing.
Speaker 2 (01:51:05):
You know, I think I
think Jackson Dart reminds me of
his coach it's quote.
Recently Did they see his filmagainst us?
Yo, that man bett called astray.
I saw a rumor that hisex-girlfriend is possibly
(01:51:25):
preggers and she apparentlyshitted on him on somebody's
stream, just saying it wasn'tbecause he was cheating, it's
just because of who he is andwe're talking about dart right?
No, no, no, we're talking aboutcarson beck now.
Speaker 1 (01:51:38):
Oh, yeah, I know, I
know what lane has said about.
I just thought that you would.
And we're talking about Dart,right?
No, no, no, we're talking aboutCarson Beck now.
Oh yeah, I know what Lane hassaid about it.
I just thought that you wouldtransition back to Dart.
Speaker 2 (01:51:45):
No, no, I was using
the Lane thing to the Lane tie
to Jackson and Corral.
Yeah, it didn't land, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
No, I knew what you
were saying.
I just thought that you wentback to him and you weren't
still talking about that,because we know that he's not.
Miami's not going to do shitnext year.
And then we got a littlebreaking news here Steelers wide
receiver George Pickens, whohas been subject of trade rumors
leading up to the draft.
(01:52:15):
Has unfollowed the team onInstagram.
Speaker 2 (01:52:18):
Well, the reports
came out earlier today that he's
more available than what's beenreported.
Speaker 1 (01:52:26):
Which is kind of
interesting Moving on to the
question board.
Well, it's just interestingbecause you thought the idea of
having that dynamic of, well,you got DK and now Pickens is a
two.
Speaker 2 (01:52:37):
You don't want.
You're going to have to payPickens after this year because
that's true.
Speaker 1 (01:52:43):
Yeah, hit the monies
up, but like then?
Speaker 2 (01:52:47):
what.
Speaker 1 (01:52:48):
Then what does
Pittsburgh do?
Because now you need a widereceiver.
I mean, unless you like CalvinAustin that much.
Speaker 2 (01:52:54):
They'll probably
draft a good wide receiver too,
because there was a lot ofduplication between uh pickens
and uh dk anyways.
So I can understand it, andfrom the stories that I heard
about pickens, they, they needthat guy out of that locker room
.
He, he's, he's, he's a lot, uh.
But one last thing before we gouh parlay p, we're talking
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football and this one kind ofhits close to home.
But uh, pac-man had a littlespicy take about a quarterback
in jacksonville and it's notsomething that's been heavily
reported, but when players saystuff like this, I tend to
believe it, because I don'tthink pac-man is trying to go
(01:53:38):
viral, necessarily.
I think he's actually sayingshit he's heard.
It reminded me of BrandonMarshall floating the rust thing
out there, but he used it as athrowaway comment and then it
ended up happening.
Long story short is, theJaguars aren't happy with Trevor
(01:54:03):
Lawrence, according to Pac-Man,and they'd be looking to move
him.
Speaker 1 (01:54:09):
Yeah so I'm looking
at this now and again you have
to ask yourself well, what's themarket?
What team makes sense?
Who's willing to take on hissalary?
Because what he's got a, hemakes 55 or something he's his,
his deal is like new, he'scoming off an injury and really,
(01:54:32):
it's only gotten worse with himbecause we're going to throw
out the rookie year the herbyear, but every year since that
second year it's kind of been adecline of some sort, and so you
know who's interested intrading for that and then
willing to continue to pay it.
Like that's such a gamble.
I don't know if jacksonvillewill be able to get off of him.
(01:54:53):
They certainly wouldn't.
I don't think they would get afirst round pick for him.
I don't, I don't think.
I mean you probably, youdefinitely could get it too.
I just don't see somebodygiving up.
Like the steelers, for instance, would be the team.
Right, that's who I would think.
If there was a team thatlogically would do it, it would
be them.
But like I don't think any ofthose teams in the top are doing
(01:55:16):
that, like I couldn't see tenn,tennessee trading for him,
matter of fact, I don't thinkthat they would anyways, just
because of the division dynamic.
Speaker 2 (01:55:23):
Well, yeah, but I
think you'd have to be a team
that's a quarterback.
It feels like you're aquarterback away.
So, yeah, the Steelers makesense because they have a
defense.
Speaker 1 (01:55:34):
you know they have a
defense, and they've got some
weapons now.
I mean, depending on whathappens with pickens, I guess
now you get rid of one, but,like um, they'll probably draft
a running back too, because nowthat naji's gone, um yeah,
there's just not that manyplaces he could land in reality.
Speaker 2 (01:55:56):
Vito first time
listening, he's a lions fan.
He thinks to make a big movetomorrow.
In reality, vito, first timelistening, he's a Lions fan.
He thinks they'll make a bigmove tomorrow.
You know, I've heard that theymay.
I saw something online sayingthey may make a move for Trey
Hendrickson.
That was probably just someclickbait, clickbait.
Bleacher Report, nonsense.
Speaker 1 (01:56:17):
For the Lions.
Speaker 2 (01:56:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:56:21):
But you know what
they're?
The type of team.
Team too, that can make thatswing at this point yeah, I mean
, that makes me it makes totalsense for detroit to make any
type of move that they feel is abig splash, especially because
they can get rid of picks too.
They've got the depth of thatteam.
Everything is solidified.
I mean, you got, you know, thebiggest thing for them is the
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coordinators.
At this point They've got twonew coordinators, which I don't
think that's going to be thatbig of a drop off from what
we've seen, because, you know,dan Campbell is just a fucking
man's man.
Speaker 2 (01:56:54):
Yeah, he's just a
culture.
That man he doesn't vent, hedips.
Yeah, that man he doesn't zen,he dips.
Speaker 1 (01:56:58):
Yeah, so it'll be
interesting to see what a team
like that does Because typicallyit is those teams that are
picking late that kind of moveup to make those type of slashes
, like we did.
Obviously I hate to go back tothis, but we did it.
When we went up and got Julio,we were a 13-3 team that lost to
(01:57:19):
the Packers and said, hey,roddy's getting a little old,
tony G's no spring chicken, weneed to get a game changer.
And then we ended up gettingwho many could argue.
I mean, it's a matter of whatflavor you like more, but you
could argue the best widereceiver of the 2010s.
What flavor?
Speaker 2 (01:57:39):
you like more, but
you could argue the best wide
receiver of the 2010s.
Yeah, and I mean the bestplayer to play for the.
Falcons Most talented player.
Best prime for the Falcons?
Sure, no, matt Ryan's thegreatest Falcon.
Speaker 1 (01:57:57):
Yeah, no, we know
that, but I'm just saying yeah,
julio was better amongst hispeers.
Speaker 2 (01:58:04):
Yeah Well, I've got
nothing else.
Parley P, I'm going to watch alittle playoff basketball, take
a shower and get ready to hop onthe rat wheel again.
Speaker 1 (01:58:17):
That sounds about
right to me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Well, and then you just let meknow what uh time you think I
got.
I know I'm going out to StoneMountain, of course, so I will
be back in time, but just kindof keep me abreast and let me
know okay, my goal will be toleave the office at five-ish.
Speaker 2 (01:58:41):
We'll probably get me
to you around like five, 45,
six o'clock Cause you knowtraffic is.
Speaker 1 (01:58:47):
Yeah, okay, yeah, I
mean, that works All right, bet.
Okay, all right, brother.
Uh, salutations, good people,he tastes as good people, uh,
veto.
Speaker 2 (01:59:02):
Thanks for commenting
as well.
All right, dog, I'll let youall right, peace.