The Power of the Big T: Tennessee, NIL Drama, and College Football's Future

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We might even be able to do a six-pack this week.
Oh yeah, a series.
Yeah, I put together a six-packfor the series.
Now, granted, of course, wedon't know who's going to be
playing the one seeds yet, butthey've got everything else up
and I came together and I've gotsix.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
To me they're almost foolproof.
Well, I mean, unless you'regoing for the one seeds, unless
you're going games and notseries winners, it doesn't
matter.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Well, in this case they're not just straight up or
spread.
Well, some of them are spreads,like, for instance and I will
get to it later, but just I'llgive a teaser here Orlando Magic
at Boston Celtics.
You can get the Magic plusthree and a half at minus 160.
So that just means that theycan't get swept.
That's all.
That means that minus 160 forthem to not get swept.

(00:55):
They'll win one game in thatseries and Palo go for 41-9.
They're going to win one game.
They're good enough defensivelyto do it and if you look at it
over the past three years, theMagic are the team that have had
the Celtics number.
They're going to win a game.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Well, they could actually match up with them with
that non-big length Pauls.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yes, a lot of girth.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
No, I mean they just got a lot of big basketball
players.
You know kind of how the Lakers, even though they don't have a
big man, they can have when theyhave LeBron, luka, austin,
reeves and Rui and Vando on thecourt.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, that's everybody, but Austin Reeves is
6'9", and then Austin Reeves isstill 6'5", 6'6".

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Let's kick Vando off and put Jackson Hayes in right.
You may not have a big center,but you have the size advantage
everywhere.
But we're not talkingbasketball yet.
Man, how are we doing today?
Parley Pete?

Speaker 1 (02:02):
We are doing fantastic.
Took that week off Got bye week, you could say and we're ready
for the play-in slash playoffs.
How are you doing today?

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Not too bad, you know , for the football types.
This is a time where you cankind of take a little week off
here or there.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, I mean nobody week off here or there.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, Nobody needed to hear off-season football and
pre-playoff pre-play inbasketball.
Really, Could we talk Sure?

Speaker 1 (02:41):
But did we have to?
There wasn't very much outthere, certainly from the sports
standpoint, because you starttalking about, well, the NFL
draft's two weeks away, theplayoffs are two weeks away.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
The play-in.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
There's not even an exciting race, for somebody's
going to be eliminated if theydon't win this game to get in
the play-in.
The play-in teams were prettymuch already set, so there
wasn't even any type of suspensethere.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
The floor was set and the only real suspense was how
would the West shake out?
Right, pretty much.
No more basketball, because wegot a guest to talk basketball.
You know Right, that's true.
How was your weekend, man?
Do anything fun.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Was with the daughter , of course we had a good time
Went to the park, went to SkyZone, did a little jumping,
cooked dinner, had a movie,pizza night, so yeah, all in all
pretty much fun.
Went grocery shopping and stuff, yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
That was a nice wholesome weekend.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, how about you?
You what we get into?
Not much, we just chilled out,just chilled out, huh yeah well,
little birdie told me you werein underground.
I I don't know what was goingon down in underground this
weekend, but you know whenever Igo there there are basically
raids going on.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
I was there during the day.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Even more interesting Tell us more.
I don't know what goes on thereduring the day.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
There was a like 2000s 2010s day party.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
We had a little rich kid sighting, really A little
Michael Montana sighting.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
So Schooley was walking around, huh, sure, okay.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
I think there were some other people there, but it
was cool just to hear the oldmusic from the high school
college days Kind of ratchet upthere though.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
You wear any jabots or a jersey or something.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
No, I didn't get in costume.
I just had on a pair of olivecargo pants, some Jordan 9s and
a black hoodie.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Okay, so pretty inconspicuous.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, that was the plan for the day you never know
In.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Atlanta.
You can be spotted by anyoneanywhere.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Hey, just think about the last two weekends with how
the Beltline thing happened withy'all.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
And then you know, you know, yeah, it happens.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
You know, last time you know, yeah, it happens.
You know, like highway and Iwant to ride it all day, all
night long pause.
Yeah, that was crazy, I'm notgonna lie riding it all night
long song, I get it, but isn'tit, rascal flats?
I think that was that dude'sname, but still riding it all
night long.
Huh boy.
But uh, here we go from carsyou know, yeah, I know what

(06:07):
you're talking about.
I just I don't know.
I don't know, that was a weirdway to throw that in there.
But you know we'll move on fromit because, look, the power of
the big T is all that matters inthese type of situations.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Talking about our president and the big terrorists
, or just big Trump himself.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Well, I'm talking more about the big T that you
got on right now.
The title of this podcast,that's the big T that I'm
talking about, that Tspecifically.
Oh, so you'm talking aboutthose that T specifically.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Oh, so you're talking about Josh Heupel making a
stand and setting the tone forhow you run a contending program
in college football.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
He put the Lever in.
I'm a Lever.
That's what he did.
Hey, he made him live up to hislast name.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, he did All right.
So let's paint a littlebackstory for anybody who's been
living under a rock and doesn'tfollow sports, which means they
probably don't listen to thisshow.
Nico, I'm not going to try tosay his last name.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
It's Iamialava, I believe.
I think that's actually howit's pronounced.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, I can't like, I cannot make, I don't have the
yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
I tell you what for the viewers at home.
The other, nico.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, not Fat Nico, Well not.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Maverick's Nico.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Oh, the guy who talked but couldn't be recorded,
like he had a side chick upthere with him or something.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, and we'll get to that obviously a little bit
later, but yes, that Nico.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Nico Yo, After that misrepresented Instagram picture
right At your old place.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (08:30):
The Instagram picture that misrepresented me.
Ah yes, that's when I becameNico.
No cameras, no cameras, nocameras.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, yeah, well, you know for her, it was about the
camera.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
She should have just said hey, I want to get my
OnlyFans popper.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
I don't know what it was, I just felt like Got some
big D yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
For your big T.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
The power of the big T, the power of the big T.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
But yeah, so long story short.
Nico wanted more money and JoshHeifel said all right, well,
sell the brick If you want toplay quarterback here in
Knoxville, you'll take it oryou'll fucking leave it.
You think you're going to holdout of my camp?

Speaker 1 (09:31):
the day before the spring game.
Well, I can't help but feellike the way that that really
did go, because he had honestlymissed a couple of practices
apparently.
And it's like he's out on thefield and he's like asking
everybody where's 8 and likemotherfuckers are like he said
he wasn't coming and then he'slike, alright, fuck him.
Like basically like as soon ashe got back to his office he

(09:53):
went on ahead, he made the phonecall.
He said look man, he's likeyou're out of here, you're out
of here.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
He told the assistant head coach I run practice, me
and the GM, we got to handlesome business.
Yeah, but honestly, man, Iloved it so much.
I'm happy we're starting here,because I think this is a very
layered conversation.

(10:22):
We can talk about programs likethe power of the big team.
We can talk about players andin players.
We can talk about differentpositional players and career
college players versus guys whothink they may become NFL stars,

(10:44):
and then we can talk about theNCAA and its impotence.
Let's start with the programBig T.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
You're an alma mater.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
My alma mater.
You see my hood back there.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
You see the hood, we see the hat, we see the
sweatshirt.
I mean you're decked out.
You're showing the power of thebig T right now.
Look at that.
A fucking shot.
Where's your shot at in there?
I know you got some of thatskull sombrero shit.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
No, I took a shot before.
And no more liquor.
I'm cutting back.
I'm cutting back Good.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Good, I'm cutting back.
I'm cutting back.
Good, good, you know it's crazy.
I haven't had liquor on thisshow now for well.
We didn't do one last week, butit's been like three or four
weeks like nothing at all.
Even though I'm not going tolie, I think I am going to run
and get a beer.
Can you set this up just fortwo seconds?
I'll be right back.
I'll be right back.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
So, while Parlay, pete's going to grab a beer
Jokes, but anyway.
So Nico wants his money.
There are stories that came outafter the fact saying that he
threatened to sit out thecollege football playoff over
this.
You know what I mean Reallystanding on business.
That doesn't happen.
Maybe some promises were madePromises that were lies.

(12:09):
But promises were made and hewanted more money.
Saw the market and saw whatother guys were getting and said
, hey, I'm better than him, Ideserve that.
And, player, you do what's bestfor you.
But shout out to the Universityof Tennessee because, in the

(12:30):
absence of guardrails by theNCAA, you see a coach and a
program say, hey, this is ourstructure, this is how this is
going to run.
Mind you, the players are goingto start revenue sharing once
the next season starts.
So these NIL bags that areseparate some guys are trying to

(12:51):
double dip because we know oncethey start getting paid by the
schools, the NIL is going todrop and they're going to turn
into real branding deals.
But neither here nor there.
Shout out to Josh Heupel fortaking a stance and saying hey,
no, this program has a standard.
Yes, if you're really good, ifwe really want you here, we will
pay you handsomely.
But what you're not going to dois you're not going to jerk us

(13:14):
around and what it appears isthat the coaches kind of stood
with him.
You know the rumor is that a guyup in Oregon, dan Lanning, you
know, champion at University ofGeorgia, let hype will know, hey
man, your boy's shopping and atop.

(13:39):
You know he was number two inhis class behind Arch Manning.
You know he was number two inhis class behind Arch Manning.
A guy who was getting a highschool NIL, famous for his
pajama pants.
You would have he was like thehigh school prospect that was
going to 707 in like pajamapants and like slinging it.

(14:00):
Oh, he led.
You know, he led UT to theplayoffs.
Now, whatever Led us to theplayoffs?
Now, whatever Led us to theplayoffs?
You would think he would have alot of larger programs.
Looking at him and nah, itwasn't there for him.
Also, last thing, and I'llthrow it to you, boss, shout out

(14:25):
to the SEC for having a rulethat if you transfer in the
spring window, you cannot stayin conference.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Do you think anyone in the SEC would have at least
poked at it the idea of bringinghim on?
I mean, some people would thinkthat Georgia might have been
one of those teams, just because.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
It depends on the relationship of Kirby and Heupel
.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
I was going to say more.
So, gunner and Kirby, more thananything.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Well, as much as I'd like to believe that Kirby would
be aggressive in fixing hisoffense, mike Bobo is still
employed and Gunner's QB1 comingout of the spring with not much
competition.
But we're not talking aboutback-to-back national champion

(15:28):
University of Georgia Bulldogs.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, not the Power G .

Speaker 2 (15:33):
No, no, no, no, no.
We're talking about the Power.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
T Is that something you guys do?
They don't do this.
Who does that?
I forgot Somebody't do this.
Who does that?
I forgot, somebody does do it.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
I was about to say something that was socially
acceptable in college, but it'snot socially acceptable on the
podcast.
You ever have a pair of LAgears.
La gears yeah.
Do I have a pair.
Have you ever had a pair?

Speaker 1 (16:08):
No.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Oh, rhymes with LA Gears.
Rhymes with LA Gears.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
I'm honestly drawing a blank here, lee, I'm not going
to lie.
I hope that I'm notdisappointing you.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Nah, you're good.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
I don't know how the tea gets involved with it.
That's what I'm trying tocorrelate it to.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Cliffhanger.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Maybe you can put it in the private chat and we can
get a big smile on my face.
I agree, I think that withGeorgia, we're not talking about
Georgia, but just the idea ofthem putting that in place.
It helps with that, evenalthough I don't think
personally, I don't think thathe would have done something

(16:58):
like that.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Oh, okay, yeah but when will they?

Speaker 1 (17:04):
do.
That, I guess, is what I'mtrying to figure out.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
That's how you'd reference the school Right.
Whoever the school is doing ithe's like look at those.
Yes got you.
Look at those, yeah, look atthose Dale Broadwaters, right,
right.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
We haven't cracked one on Dale in a minute, so it's
always good to get him involveda little bit in the show.
But back to Tennessee.
I think that Nico ultimatelydid he do what was best for him.
And then you know, there's allthese rumors about his dad
really being the guy that waspushing the envelope.
You would think, I think theysaid he was getting two, that he

(17:49):
was already getting two, and Iunderstand everybody you saying
you think that a lot of theseguys because the collective is
about to start getting paid bythe schools, that they're trying
to double dip or whatever.
But when does greed come intothis?
Where is the the idea thatgreed is starting to take over

(18:10):
the sport?
It's taking it over to thepoint at where you got guys and
girls, because I'm not gonnajust, it's not just, uh,
football women's back.
All these sports people are,you know, gonna end up fucking
going to a different schoolevery year.
It's going to be somebody, yousee, that's been in school for
five years and they went to fourschools.
Look at TJ Finley, right, he'sabout to be on his fifth school.

(18:32):
Is he at Morehouse now?
Man, you know he might beTerrace Mathis might have went
on ahead and recruited him,because I don't know anybody
else that ever won his ass.
Anybody else?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
has ever won his ass.
So it's now becoming twoseparate athletes on two
different career paths.
It's the semi-pro athlete andthe college athlete.
And I think if you are asemi-pro athlete, the bag should

(19:06):
never be the first thing thatguides your decision making,
Unless you are a skilled playerand you are top five coming out
right.
Not quarterback, I mean, likeif you're a corner, a wide
receiver running back, evencorners where you go, matters.
But certain positions, bro, goget your money, it's not going

(19:28):
to matter.
But the semi-pro athleteprimarily to choose the program
that fits them best, personalitydevelopment, preparing them for
the NFL, and maybe you juststay at the same place and you
get a real degree right.
Then you have the collegeathlete.

(19:50):
The college athlete thatdemands a bag who may play at
the next level.
So it's more than two tracks.
Hey, bro, chase the bag, Be amid-round draft pick and maybe
your talent will prove out overtime in the league.
But you're going to mess upyour first contract money
because you were so focused onthe college money.

(20:12):
Then you got Hunter Dickersonright, Make him a college
football player, Bro.
You just go get the money.
You're not a pro yeah so youjust get as much money as you
can, and then you have some guyswho just stay at a program for

(20:33):
four years, five years, and theyenjoy that program, and it's
not even about money, it's aboutcontinuing to do something that
they love.
Yeah, so I think it's justgoing to be different tiers of
football player, but we're goingto all try to group them into
like one or two and it's unfairto describe college football.
You didn't listen to Legend,did you?

Speaker 1 (20:57):
I did not get to listen to what you said.
The hour for right of Paul,yeah.
What did Legend have to say?
Was it in regards to this?

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yes, he talked about a lot of other nonsense.
Then he made fun of Tennessee,but he was talking about how one
of the guys who introduced himto college football, his older
brother and somebody else whowatches college introduced him
to college football, his olderbrother and somebody else who
watches college football andloves college football more than
he does, and for Legend to saythese two people who love
college football more than him,that says a lot If you know who

(21:37):
Legend is.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
I feel like even if you don't watch or listen to the
Paul Feinbaum show, you have toknow who he is because, any
time Alabama plays Auburn well,really, any type of rivalry game
for Alabama or just any biggame that Alabama's got he is
going to have a clip on the show.
He will be clipped off for 30seconds at least on first take

(22:00):
when Paul Feinbaum's on there,yes, or the Saturday show you
you know when they have him onexactly so.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
he was saying that the way the game is getting is
starting to turn them off and hesaid he hasn't been turned off
yet.
But you know it's a possibility.
And I forgot who else I waslistening to.
They were saying how theyunderstand why certain people
don't really like the gameanymore, don't like the game

(22:29):
like they used to, because whatmade college different from the
NFL was the tradition.
And back to your greed thing theTV networks are greedy, the
conferences are greedy, theschools are greedy, the ADs are
greedy, the head coaches aregreedy, the schools are greedy,
the ADs are greedy, the headcoaches are greedy and now the
players are greedy.
And it's just a system fueledon greed.

(22:52):
And greed drives everything.
Because, as much as we like the12-team playoff, they didn't
pick the right teams because ofgreed.
They won't make it a wide-openplayoff because of greed.
They won't make it a wide openplayoff because of greed.
And we're going to expand theplayoff even though we don't
need more than four teams, maybeeight, making a playoff because

(23:15):
of fucking greed.
It's the greed games.
Go off, king.
I talked for like 20 minutes.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, I mean, I just think that the thing with it is
there's got to be someboundaries that are that have
got to get set.
And I know herb street was onmcafee earlier today and you
know he couldn't even beginhimself as somebody that's been
a lifer for college football, hecouldn't even begin to think
somebody that's been a lifer forcollege football, he couldn't

(23:46):
even begin to think of well, whodo you put in charge of this?
Who's going to be running this?
How do you set it up?
Because as far as I'm concerned, if you look at the way that
it's structured, it almost lookslike baseball, to where there's
no cap, right, and at thatpoint you can get a school fool.

(24:07):
If Texas A&M has the money topay uh, jimbo, you know, 15, 13
million dollars a year over thenext, like eight years what is
it to them to go out and talk toOhio State and go to Jeremiah
Smith and say, hey, man, weheard that they're only giving
you two and a half.
We've got five right now.
Right now, if you hurry up andyou come over here, no questions
asked, that wire hits youraccount tomorrow morning, only

(24:28):
because it's past 5 now.
That wire will hit your accounttomorrow morning.
If you agree to this, we wantyou here and then they'll.
I mean, granted, somebody likeArchie isn't going to leave, but
like the next big thing, who'sthe kid at Michigan Underwood or
whatever his name is, theambidextrous guy.
You go and get him Texas A&M.
If you've got blank checks andyou can just throw them around

(24:51):
to anybody.
It turns into baseball.
You start to look like thefucking.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Dodgers of college football, but here's the thing
we're still seeing the smart,high-end players continue to go
to the high-end programs and Idon't know if you've seen latest
recruiting rankings, but Dabois back.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Dabo's back huh.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, I don't know if it was 2025 or if it's 2026,
but like dabble got like a topfive class and what it boils
down to is that for those whoare really trying to go to that
next level and they have a goodsupport system around them or
they're just not straight uppoor yeah they are looking at

(25:47):
the long term because, let's behonest, we're not talking about
a joe burrow who transferredbecause he couldn't play and
killed shit in year two, or janedaniels who transferred because
of coaching changes, all ofthat, and eventually killed him
on a heisman right.
Yeah, we're talking about Nico,a guy who was hype coming in and
has underperformed as aTennessee alumni alum.

(26:13):
Excuse me, we were notconfident on third and eight.
Nico's going to make a play.
He might light it up for 303.
Yeah, but that's againstWestern Kentucky.
But if you just watched how hegot his 300, it's not a.
I carved you up for 300 likeBaker Mayfield was doing in

(26:36):
college.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Is it fair to blame him for that?
Now again they were saying thatpart of the reason that he's
leaving, too, it wasn't justmoney and that it was Hypo's.
That Now again they were sayingthat part of the reason that
he's leaving, too, it wasn'tjust money and that it was
Hypo's offense.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Now granted.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Look, they have the top running back in the SEC in
Samson, right?
I mean he led the SEC inrushing.
So if you've got the bestrunning back in the conference,
you're going to be more prone torun the ball a little bit more.
Now that could also speak tothe confidence they have in his
arm.
Or maybe the receivers weren'tthat good at Tennessee, I don't
know.
They made the playoffs, though.

(27:09):
You have success for the firsttime in a long time at a program
that's been dying to have anykind of success.
You know what I mean.
This was a win for them, like,in my opinion, tennessee.
This was a win.
Now you lose a guy and they'reclaiming that it's not about
money, but nobody wants to comeout and say what it is.
All the reports say that it ismoney, but then UCLA also says

(27:32):
that they gave him a certainoffer and that it wasn't what he
was asking for and that they'restaying firm on it.
Which another layer to that,too, is that his brother had
switched.
His brother was going to go toUCLA and then switched at
Arkansas had switched, hisbrother was going to go to UCLA
and then switched at Arkansas.
So it's just interesting to mein how.
Maybe the media has their partin it too.
But how do we get to the pointwhere Aniko is asking for $4

(27:57):
million?
Who is the highest paid guy incollege football?
Why does he feel like he cancommand that from Tennessee?
Is it because of the leverageand thinking that they haven't
had this type of success until Idid get there?
What is the reason?

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Carson Beck got $4 million.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Carson Beck also for what it's worth.
Although we did not, we wentundefeated in the fucking race.
I mean, he's doing what he'ssupposed to do.
It was unfortunate the way thatthe playoffs worked at that
time.
It was a four-team and theyleft him out.
But I have no doubt thatGeorgia would have won the
national championship if theygot into the playoffs Like they

(28:33):
would have won.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
But hold on, if you were Nico and I'm not saying you
would stand on business,because you're not Drewski,
you're Nico, right.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
And you're just looking at Carson Beck coming
off of the messed up elbow.
Right, yeah, injury, go getfour mil and you're making two.
Four mil and you're making two.
Now, mind you, two million inKnoxville is more than four

(29:09):
million in Miami, if you ask me.
But Wouldn't you be like, hey,I need this Carson Beck we're
talking about this.
Guy will be lucky to get aclipboard and a visor.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yeah, but there was a lot of hype of him going one
Coming into the season.
There was hype around it Likethat was real.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
And then they watched him.
They didn't watch him before hehad Brock Bowers and then they
watched him.
They didn't watch him before hehad Brock Bowers, who was a Pro
Bowl-level player If he didn'tmake the Pro Bowl.
I don't keep up with that.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
He had a rookie Arguably Pro Bowl-level player
as a rookie.
Yeah, arguably a top threetight end in the NFL right now
and a wide receiver that's goingto be a future pro bowler.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
I mean, he was the best rookie receiver last year.
Sorry, Malik.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Well, Brian Thomas was.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
He had Carzillo's finest throwing him the ball too
.
Shout out to T-Law man Big T.
Yeah, that's the big T.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Pause, pause, that's a T-Law man.
Big T, yeah, that's the big T.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Pause.
So do you think it works outfor Nico at UCLA what?

Speaker 1 (30:34):
is your definition of working out?
Him getting paid and going tothe NFL, Him winning games and
being competitive in the Big Ten.
Do you think Nico Him fucking abunch of baddies on campus Like
what is, nah?

Speaker 2 (30:49):
he's not going to be on campus, he's going to be in
LA.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Right Caleb Williams status huh.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
I mean because he already got rich his first year
when he didn't play, Becausehe's like two mil a year.
He got two mil on a redshirtyear.
How dare you come back and askme for some money?
I overpaid you just so youwouldn't leave.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
I don't think he threw for 3,000 yards last year.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
I don't think he looked better than Joe Milton.
No, he didn't.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
He didn't honestly.
Or my man before him, HendonHookerer let me see here real
quick uh, he didn't.
He didn't throw for 3 000 yards, man, yeah, if I'm hyped up to
get the fuck out of my officetoo, like he's numbers.
So 10 and 3, record 63, uh, 63completion percentage, 2,600

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passing yards, 19 TDs, 5 INTs.
He had 358 yards rushing andthree rushing touchdowns.
So we're talking 22 totaltouchdowns and not even 3,000
total yards.
And you got blown out in theplayoff game.
Now, brad, you lost to theeventual national champions on

(32:08):
the road, but like you wereoutclassed almost the entire
game.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Do you think he plays in the NFL?

Speaker 1 (32:19):
I can see him being a camp arm because he's got the
size and stuff.
He could be like a 6'5".
He could be a camp arm becausehe's got the size and stuff.
He could be like a 6'5".
He could be a camp arm.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
So you don't see him moving up to being like a late
first.
A second round grade that moveshim to the first for the fifth
year and gets a chance to startin year two.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
I think Josh Rosen turned everybody off from UCLA
football and drafting guys ETR.
He probably did it too.
I mean that's why, granted, hedidn't really have high
expectations like a Josh Rosen,because, look, I was wrong about
Josh Rosen too, I thought hewas going to be good.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
We want Josh Rosen.
We wanted him post.
No, we just got stuck with him.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Well, when we got you're talking about in Atlanta,
when we got him here, I meanthis was like his fourth team.
He was here to literallycompete for the backup position.
He wasn't going to be a starter, debra.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
He was just trying to make sure that he could make
millions annually because it'sgoing to take him a while to do
that professionally outside offootball.
I think he's a realtor now.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Well, he's rich as fuck, Like his family was rich
and so like he's good, he allright, but like I'm sure that he
was wise enough to, I'm sure hewas one of those people that
could blow his like rookie checkbecause he was already good.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
And his people were probably like, hey, once he, you
know, hit rock bottom inArizona, it was hey, just do
what you can to keep gettingcontracts.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yeah, he's, and not that this matters.
I don't want anyone to call meKanye West, but or yay.
Rather, his dad is anorthopedic spine surgeon in LA.
He's Jewish Big surprise there,right and his great, great

(34:25):
great grandfather is JosephWharton, who founded the Wharton
School of Business at theUniversity of Penn.
Oh, he's more than okay, he'scurrently.
He's actually a student therenow.
I guess he's getting his MBA orsomething.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
But yeah, he's fine.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah, let's not talk about him anymore, yeah uh, I
think that this is what I thinkis going to happen at a school
like ucla.
I thought ucla overachievedpersonally last year.
There were games that they wonthat they had no business
winning and I just rememberbecause of the betting aspect of
it, but because they were 500,they went like six and six right

(35:07):
, they were something like that,and in the Big Ten that's a big
accomplishment for a schoolthat just had moved over there.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
in my opinion, I thought that they overachieved,
especially considering howDeshaun Foster's press
conference went Well not eventhat, just considering he went
from being a position coach to ahead coach and he got hired
late, because, do you rememberChip left?

Speaker 1 (35:33):
To be the assistant at Ohio State.
Yeah, it was late in the year,was that?
I think it was almost.
If it wasn't after spring ball,then it was like right before,
like or in the middle of it.
Oh, I think it was after springball, that it was like right
before, like are in the middleof it.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Oh, I think it was after spring ball, because it
took some talking into and justthinking about friends of the
program and their timeline andstuff like that.
Yeah, yeah, it was after springball.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, so tough position to be put in and for
him he could say that this washim kind of going out and
getting that big fish.
But at the end of the day, weknow that line play matters.
The guys you have around themare going to matter.
My expectation is that it'll bemuch of the same and much ado
about nothing.
In regards to how UCLA's seasonpans out, I don't think that

(36:21):
anything's going to change there.
Maybe they'll get an additionalgame on TV or something.
I don't even know who UCLA isgoing to play this year, but
with the likes of Michigan, ohioState, penn State, usc, they're
going to still have to play USC.
I don't even know, because Iknow Miller Moss has gone from
there.
Oregon, oregon yeah, I mean,when you've got these types of

(36:45):
schools Utah, who's alwaystypically got a pretty good
program when you've got to playthese schools on a regular basis
it just you know it's no bueno,and even a guy like Frank.
Wright, but even a guy like him.
He said Utah's not, oh, they'rethe Big 12.
You're right.
You're right.
You start thinking Pac-12.

(37:06):
I know, yeah, washington's not,they're Big 10.
Washington's, big 10.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
I think so.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah, they're Big 10.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Shout out to Kelsey Plum.
Distinguished alum Bro, howabout those courtside AA?
Uh-huh 409 a pop.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
For the season opener .

Speaker 2 (37:28):
No, for damn near any game, for the drink that you
want to see, if you want to situnder the goal courtside, oh
honey, I checked multiple games.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Well, they're going to open up at State Farm right
for the Fever game.
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, look,it's a growing sport and
actually we can get to that too.
Once we're done with football,we can start with that.
That can be the appetizer forthe NBA, because we did have a
draft there as well.
We only cared about two picks.

(38:08):
Oh man, third one now.
Did you see the girl that wentsecond?
Oh yeah.
Like her highlight shit Likeher dunking and shit.
Yeah, she flushing.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
No, she's dunking.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah, she look like a nigga.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
She ain't like BG doing that weak-ass shit or
Candice Parker doing thatweak-ass shit.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
She's dunking it nigga.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Tony.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Parker said that she's the wimpy of the WNBA.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, like, nah, she gonna be dunking on girls Pops,
ain't even gonna be thinkingabout somebody being vertical
and she gonna just stay back andthen shorty go ah vertical.
And she going to just like stayback and then Shorty going ah,
ah and just, and it's going tolook real athletic and manly.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Well, that's what I saw in that little highlight
because I think it was RekiaJackson that put it up and was
like I don't want to be thefirst woman dunked on in the
WNBA.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
And that highlight they showed her hey, hey, hey,
power of the big T.
Yeah, Anyways look, by the way,I'm going to Hawks.
Hawks Sparks, Of course you are.
Wayne said for me to let himknow what I commit to it.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Is Wayne saying?
That he'll leave fromas to comehere to watch a game bro, the
the w breakdowns that I've I gotwith.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
I had with wayne earlier today.
We were talking about indianaand how they got to find out a
way to play through caitlin andalia together versus them
playing one on playing their owngame separately within the game
.
Yeah, it got a little too.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
You guys are starting to do X's and O's for women's
basketball.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
I can only do it for a few teams and a few players.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
I'm about the betting aspect of it, just like when
you sent over the Chicago versusIndiana opening weekend match,
I said fever spread, that's allI care about.
Can they cover?
Are they going to cover?

Speaker 2 (40:11):
I said I'll spread the cover on Chicago.
Chicago will cover the spreadright.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
No, you said you'll spread.
Chicago is what you said.
And cover them.
Yes, cover them, yes, exactly,and spread Now.
But hold on, we can get readyto close out on the big T,
because actually I've got abreaking news in regards to the
big T here and it's our oldbuddy.
You can go ahead and cue up thesound.

(40:40):
Urban Meyer just spoke on NicoIamaliva's departure.
Go ahead, give it to us.
I don't have any Urban anymore.
Fuck.
No, you got the South Park.
You're fired.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
No, I no, it's gone.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Damn it.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
You will not start a day.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Alright, I just did it.
Anyways, this is what Herb hadto say on Nico leaving.
Tennessee is screwed.
They got a problem.
Everybody's saying nice job,tennessee making a stand.
I've got a little comment onthat.
Tennessee plays Florida,usually every year in October.
Can you imagine that game whichI don't know if this is just

(41:25):
type bad or this is what he saidCan you imagine that game's
going the other way and coachHeupel grabs the microphone and
stands on the 50 yard line inNeyland stadium and says it's
okay, I made a stand way backwhen end quote.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
I mean that's very reflective of Urban.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Well, the person that commented how I got to see it
on my timeline here on Twitteris known disciplinary in Urban
Meyer.
It's a picture with AaronHernandez with his arm around
Urban.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Yeah, like Urban doesn't have a, If you're good,
you're good with him.
I just need you in the facilityand I'll do what I can to keep
you here.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
You know what I think of when I think of Herb.
I think about when he retiredfrom Ohio State and they showed
him on the cart and he waseating a pizza from Papa John's
or something from in the stadium, because he was having a heart
problem or he was exhausted orwhatever it was that was going
on with him.
That's the lasting image.
I just think of Irv.
I just think of him eating that.
Not him with the chick in hislap at his bar after a Thursday

(42:40):
night loss to one of the worstteams in the NFL or, yeah, at
the time one of the worst teamsin the NFL, or at the time, one
of the worst teams in the NFL.
I don't think about that.
I think about him eating apizza and that being the lasting
image of his college footballcareer.
Not kicking kickers and tellingthem to make their kicks
dipshit.
Not that.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Think about this man eating a Papa John's pizza.
You know what I remember when Ithink of Urban Meyer.
What's that?
I remember his daughter goingin on him at her senior night
for saying he pretty much wasnever there because he was just
so in love with football.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Well.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Lee it sounds like you want to take more shots at
the man and not the coach no, no, no, no, because my response to
that was you get this life, youlive, because I love football
more than I love your mom andyou okay, yeah, like let's be
honest, there are.

(43:45):
There are people who love whatthey do more than they love
their family.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
I think it's way more normal than than we we say it
is well, it's, it's apparent bythe time that's given right, um,
and it doesn't mean that that'snecessarily true because you
give a lot of time.
I wholeheartedly, for instance,believe that Kobe Bryant and
I'm not just bringing him upbecause I'm a big fan, but I do

(44:12):
wholeheartedly believe he lovedhis girl Like he loved his you
could tell, but, yes, but.
Even though he spent all of histime in the gym.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
No, no, no.
Before the Achilles, before theAchilles, I think he loved
basketball more, just like Ithink for a large portion of
LeBron's career he's lovedbasketball more in something

(44:43):
that's not your family.
You love that thing more andyou're just hoping that the love
that you have for your familyor your loved ones, whoever you
want to love, it's enough lovefor them.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Right.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Right, I'm telling you as not to go too deep, but
there are things that I wouldgive more time to and I was more
passionate about on aday-to-day what you want to make
.
But you just are hoping thatwhat you have left is enough for
somebody else if they don'tbecome the top thing.

(45:31):
So you work everything elsearound them.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
I agree with what you're saying.
I guess what I'm trying to saythat.
I can see it with Irv, justbecause of what type of person
he does appear to be on thesurface.
I mean, we don't know thesepeople, but like the OCK, yeah,
you could.
Just you could tell a guy likehim you know he's a sleazy
motherfucker.
So like, yeah, he lovedfootball more than he loved his

(45:57):
daughter.
Just like a guy like DennisRodman liked to party more than
he loved his kid.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Clearly, and she still turned out to be a, a
successful athlete?
Yeah, exactly, and I don'tagree with her boyfriend of
choice.
Who's her boyfriend?

Speaker 1 (46:14):
not me, okay now.
But a guy like dennis too couldcome out and say, well, thank
me for your athletic ability inthe genetics and the idea that
you got this from me being afreak, but again, that's
something that somebody couldlook at a guy like Dennis Rodman
and say that might be some shitthat he would actually say.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
She grew up poor, apparently.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Yeah, but she got her size and stuff ultimately from
him.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
I mean, and her dad could say this is kind of messed
up, but it's real.
It's real, but you're okay now.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Well, and I put you in a position where you had to
grind it as opposed to just itbeing given.
No nepotism here.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
No, they don't love me enough for you to get
nepotism.
You're probably better offhaving my last name, but very
little association with me,because they'll give you the
they'll.
They'll say OK, she's athletic.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
And that's a, that's a unique last name.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Very unique.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Yeah, Because when you think of the name Robin,
he's the first person you thinkof.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
So, yeah, I mean you.
I think of Trinity person, Imean you.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
I think of Trinity personally.
Right, Right, I lied.
Yeah, sure, Sure you did, butno, I think that a guy like Herb
coming out and saying this,it's kind of a baseless comment.
Of course he has to throwFlorida in there.

(47:46):
Herb just needs to get back tocoaching and stop talking about
ball, but then again the checkis probably way easier.
He gets to sit up and talk withwho?
Matt Leinart and Reggie Bush.
Basically I don't watch thatshow.
He works 15 weeks out of theyear.
He's probably clearing twocommas right.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
You would think he gets two commas to do it.
Herb doesn't leave his housefor anything long-term for less
than two commas.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
That's what I'm saying, and he's still probably
getting paid.
He has to still be getting paidby Amir Khan and he probably
has some bullshit job at OhioState as a consultant.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
So he just gets a smooth $250,000, $500,000 or
some shit like that every yearjust to cover expenses.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Well, yeah, basically to add to expenses.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
It's really a write-off for the school, yeah.
But yeah, you know how, someBack when love and hip-hop
started, there were some peoplewho you might see on Love Hip
Hop but you felt like, ah, dang,I feel like they're a little
too rich for this.
But then you realize it's no,they're doing fine.

(48:58):
But this is like a free 500 forthe house, because Burf, kirk
and Rashida can get a little 250here.
Yeah, then it builds up theirbusiness empire because you're
putting it on tv.
So I don't really need thismoney, but I get this publicity.
You know, because love andhip-hop is weird.

(49:23):
There's has-beens, there'speople who are like has been as
far as the music goes, butthey're doing fine in business.
People started trying to comeup and that's when it got weird
outside of Cardi B.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Well, because he was the first example of it too.
For what it's worth.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Bro, cardi B moves units Real quick.
I saw something on one of theblogs saying oh, cardi B must be
something, something becauseshe had some popular feminine
care product, like outside ofher, like on her tub, where she
took a picture.
And I go, she moves so manyunits that that's a brand deal,

(50:06):
that's an unsponsored post andthey're shopping it as if she
just happened to take thispicture and it's going to drive
so much revenue towards thatbrand and so much revenue
towards those damn blogs.
She's never going to makeanother album, bro.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
That's not what she says, but again, uh, again,
maybe she wants to be the modernday Lauren Hill, in terms of
how that worked out for her.
She dropped one album, livedoff of it for forever One, the
best hip hop album.
So did Cardi.
Uh, cause Cardi was secondright, Cause what's her face now

(50:49):
is third.
Uh, don't cheat, I I sure.
Because Cardi was second right,Because what's her face now is
third.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Dochi Sure Yo Cardi B , her butt doesn't move like a
BBL butt.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
I like it.
I mean, obviously we know whowe voted to win the BBL madness
bracket.
She didn't win, did she?
She did win.
That's exactly who we picked towin.
Okay, good, no, no, no, no, no.
I thought Bernice won.
No, maybe it was no.
I picked Cardi.
I think Justice was thetiebreaker.
You guys picked Bernice to win.

(51:22):
Yeah, you guys wanted theLeBron James of the game.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Just longevity.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
It's been there long enough now, now where her
daughter is in the game andshe's still playing at a high
level bro, she's worth 80 millike off one album.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
But like no real quick.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Back to the smut.
Back to the smut, real quick.
She still, like, has the dentsin her ass.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
She's a stripper man or an ex-stripper.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
I'm just saying you know some of the women.
You know they get that stuffcontoured out.
Or you know, when you see theG-string BBLs, it's like, oh wow
, this butt has no deformitiesat all.
You can still see the cellulitethrough the G-string BBLs.
It's like, oh wow, this butthas no deformities at all.
Yeah, you can still see thecellulite through the pants.
On that one video I sent you.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Yeah, that one video that you sent me.
I didn't have to do that, did I?
You didn't, but that's okay,we're glad that you did.
It always adds more to theprogram.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
How do we end up on Cardi B's ass from UT?

Speaker 1 (52:41):
The power of the big T.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Power of the big B, yeah, big deal.
Yeah, bb.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Bill yeah, but regardless.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Have you seen Van Litz's SportsCenter photo shoot
or Sports Illustrated photoshoot.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
You did not, you might have.
I've seen it.
I've seen it, yeah, yeah, look,I'm a big fan of HVL, not just
because of her game and herlooks, of course, but yeah, it
is because of her game and herlooks, More so her looks.
But nice pickup though.

(53:23):
Nice pickup for Chicago.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
I mean, she's barbecue chicken if she's star
at game one.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Oh yeah.
Well, it'll just be a flashback.
It'll bring her a little PTSD.
From what was that?
The Final Four?
That was an Elite Eight game.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Well, it was LSU and Louisville.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Oh yeah because I guess she's played her more than
once.
Yeah, she dogged her twice, butspecifically that year, the
year when they were trying to,when LSU was trying to repeat
that was an Elite Eight game, Ibelieve.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
I don't think it was a Final Four.
I think that was an Elite Eightgame.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
I think so too.
Yeah, but you remember she didthe.
You Can't See Me in theLouisville game Louisville.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Yeah yeah, you can't see me in the Louisville game.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Louisville.
Yeah, you know real quick.
When they talked about theratings from the women's Final
Four last year to this year andsome people were like, well, if
Juju would have played, it wouldhave been higher, here's the
difference.
Juju and Paige have just anon-court rivalry because they've
played against each other a fewtimes in big games.

(54:36):
But they're not rivals, they'renot going at it with each other
, they're not Bro, they justhoop.
Paige don't be doing none ofthe extra, juju don't do none of
the extra.
So they're just not asinteresting, right?
But I would say, like, as acombo, two on two, they're

(54:59):
better at basketball ThanCaitlyn and Angel, right?
I mean, I still think Paige isthe better Basketball player of
the three.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Really.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Yeah, like Paige.
Paige can play on and off theball and I don't know how much
of it we will see, because she'splaying next to Enrique, who is
like mellow type.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Maybe the biggest bucket, bucket low key.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
But she's like a mellow type bucket.
It's not always efficient.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
You know she'll be nine for 27 with 32.
But like Paige had to play inGeno's system and play team ball
, but like I don't know man, shegot them shoulders, man.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Well, it'll be interesting to see how it ends
up turning out them playing sideby side.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
They also.
Who did they add they?

Speaker 1 (56:03):
added somebody else though, too, because they got
rid of Sato Sabli, they gotDejanay Carrington.
Yeah, not UConn, but fromConnecticut.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Yes, my favorite lesbian, Really, yeah, favorite.
She got me at Baylor man.
She got hurt in the nationalchampionship game the hammy and
that's the reason why they lost.
Sounds like you're making upexcuses, lee, no, no, no, she's
like their best defender.
I get what you're saying.
It sounds like you're making upexcuses, lee, no, no, no, she's

(56:32):
like their best defender.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
And then I get what you're saying, I'm just saying
sounds like you're making upexcuses because she's your
favorite lesbian, you know.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
I'm just a fan of her .
I like the way she plays ball.
I like the way she carriesherself outside of her and Angel
Reese talking on the podcast,just talking about payment.
Speaking of we're here, did youhear Angel Reese and Blueface's

(57:04):
baby mama, who's now saved?

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Christiane Rock.
There we go, yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
You hear her say that Angel Reese does the same thing
as LeBron, so she should getpaid the same.
I've seen these nonsense takesBefore you finish an angel reese
response period you know, lee,I'm all about who moves the

(57:45):
units.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Uh, shawty lowe had an album called units in the
city, right?
Shawty Lo had an album calledUnits in the City, right?
You remember that album?
Yes, okay, I guess I would needto know how many units she's
moving.
Lebron James is arguably somecould argue maybe the biggest
basketball player ever.

(58:09):
The nigga's top five in jerseysales every year year, even if
you don't change his number orhis team for four years in a row
there's that, but at the sametime, he's lebron james, and the
reason why I say he might bethe biggest ever is because a
guy like jordan didn't playduring a social media.
Lebron did.

(58:30):
Lebron's got memes for days.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
I mean, I know Jordan's got some too, but like
LeBron's, taco Tuesday is nowsynonymous with LeBron and not
like real.
Taco Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Like when they can say hey, you trying to get Taco
Tuesday.
More times than not, someone'sgonna be like Taco Tuesday, even
if they just being funny, theMigos made a whole fucking song
off of it and used his soundlike to introduce it.
The nigga has a Ken doll.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Yeah, there's that too, don't you think that that's
a little weird, by the way, howthat doll comes out after
everybody starts using AI tomake dolls of like everything,
because that started before theyintroduced it.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Oh, I didn't know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
I just thought it was a little weird.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Probably a great marketing campaign.
My LeBron Ken doll theory isthey're trying to get our young
black men to play with Barbiedolls you don't think it's the
opposite, that they want to getyoung women to watch more NBA?
I like that one better.
That was me just pulling somelike some of that Dr Umar shit.

(59:47):
You know the niggas who walkaround in dashikis and onks and
sandals and don't use the N wordor deodorant.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
You know the.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Dr Umar house Philosophy major ass nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Yeah, philosophy major, scraggly beard.
If he can grow one, he mightwear a koofy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
You see that nigga 10 years later and he's a fucking
investment banker.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Hey, he's buttoned all the way up.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Shave clean, cut fucking pillage, raping and
pillaging people to make money.
Yeah, hey bro.
What happened to all that powerto the people?

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
That sounds about right.
That sounds about the storythat we hear.
By the way, Joe is readywhenever you are.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Tell him to tap in, Tap, tap, tap in.
You get Joe ready and I'm goingto go get me a shot of this
Deep Addicts I'm not drinkingDeep Addicts All right, I was
hoping you were using that justto rhyme.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
I said I was hoping you were using that just to
rhyme.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Oh, absolutely, I was trying to sound like the
rappers in the 80s, like Kumo Dand them.
The ones they try to tell me isoh, absolutely, I was trying to
sound like the rappers in the80s, like Kumo D and them.
The ones they try to tell me islike fine, so you don't want to
be Slick Rick the Ruler.
I'm jumping in the cab becauseI left the lab.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Thrills and pills when the bills are kills.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
That shit is so terrible.
That old school rap is trash.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Yeah.
Maybe we can add that as alittle part of it too, here on
the end when we get segment butLet me go get my shot, yeah, go
get your shit, big T.
But to set ourselves up herefor the next segment, that was a
little bit of football.
We didn't even really get toget into football the way that
we wanted, but that's okay, wewill have plenty of time next

(01:01:57):
week to introduce the footballand get into football and get
that figured out, especiallywith the NFL draft coming up
here in the next couple of weeks.
But basically, for this nextsegment that we're going to have
, we've got Hawks insider JosiahFowler getting ready to join us

(01:02:20):
and come into the studio andgive us his take on the Hawks
performance yesterday to goalong with previewing the NBA
playoffs.
Because, believe it or not,guys, it is here, it is upon us,
basically it's upon thee, youknow.
And then we've also got thisHeat game.
Looks like it's over.

(01:02:40):
It's a 14-point game right now,but for the most part that game
is over.
So now we know who the Hawksare going to face.
So it'll be interesting to askand pick his brain on what he
feels and thinks is going to bethe Hawks outcome, because I
think we would all agree thatthe Hawks have overachieved this
year, wouldn't you say?
I think that they have.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
You know it's so crazy.
You say that.
Yes, I was listening to CalHeard earlier today and they
talked about Trey crashing outat the end of the game, and part
of the conversation was, youknow, four years ago, when Trey
Young led the Hawks to theEastern Conference Finals.
It was this and that, but nowwhat's up, joe?

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
What's going on?
What's going on how we doingguys.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
We got Josiah Fowler in the building repping the
Hawks.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Repping the Hawks man Disappointed but I'm repping
them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Hey, man, happy to have you here and I was just
talking about some stuff I heardon some national sports talk,
right, and I really hate the waythat Atlanta is covered
nationally because they don'twatch Atlanta sports at all.
And they were talking aboutTrey Young and how he's been a
disappointment over the last fewyears and I go no, you haven't

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watched the Hawks.
The roster hadn't been rightand he overachieved post Jalen
Johnson injury because we werethe pistons before Jalen Johnson
got hurt and with the additionsthat we made that are a bit

(01:04:22):
more complimentary and don'tcare about stats as much, I
think we would have been asix-ish, even if Jalen Johnson
doesn't get hurt.
Trey Young isn't the problem.
That's my overall point.
He's not the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
He elevated the play of guys like Rich DeShay and
Dyson Daniels.
And obviously you got plenty ofgood value to come out of it,
naturally, right.
Like we talked about this atlength, how it felt so weird
them just getting rid of.
Um uh.
Hunter no no, not even HunterI'm talking about for the Dyson

(01:05:04):
Daniels trade, oh, oh, oh, uh.
Yeah, getting rid of DeJounte,and it felt like they gave us
some picks kind of back, I guess, to recoup just a little bit
and then a ham sandwich is whatit kind of felt like.
But I wasn't familiar withDyson Daniels' game.
But at the same time I alsofeel like a guy like Trey

(01:05:25):
elevated his play, certainlyoffensively at least, because
you've got somebody that cansquare up and shoot.
And then same thing withresearch.
You know, not that the talentmaybe wasn't there, but them
getting rid of hunter of coursehelped open that up even more
for a guy like research, becausethey knew that that was what
was going to be next that hey wecan move on from him because we
want this guy to get more time,because he is the future of

(01:05:47):
that position.
To begin with, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
It's a few things that I think that, um, when I've
been talking to my brother, afew of my friends about this,
just uh, just like to reassess,like the game yesterday, I know

(01:06:16):
that I mean we had to play Mogay.
I like Mogay a lot.
Mogay has been essentially ourbest big defender this whole
season as he played.
The one thing about the Hossrotation, which is the toughest
thing, is that we don't haveconsistent shooting amongst our
best players.
If you look at Trey, eventhough Trey should shoot a

(01:06:39):
higher clip, but Trey shoots alot of tough shots because Trey
is short, trey is exerting somuch energy of trying to run
around, get other people opendifferent things like that.
He's just shooting all the timewith the ball in his hand.
Because if you, if you reallylike, watch the hudson, you see
when trey get a lot of catch andshoot opportunities, he's

(01:07:00):
making them at 40 or higher clipwhich, like trey, is one of the
better shooters in the league,but he just has to shoot with
the ball in his hand so muchthat it just doesn't reflect it.
But, um, missing, missing,larry nance, missing, capella
honestly hurt the hawks a lotyesterday.
Uh, especially with a big teamlike that.

(01:07:21):
You got to play don barlow,which, um, I mean he's just an
athlete but he lost.
Like there was a play whenHawks was down seven in the
fourth quarter where he playedthe craziest drop coverage I've
ever seen in my life, left PaulAnthony open for a three.
At that point I'm like man,it's over.
But I mean I think he'smishandled Rizashe Really,

(01:07:47):
because if you go look atRizashe minutes per game, it
fluctuates.
Because if you go look atreasons to say minutes per game,
it fluctuates and I just thinkthat like, yeah, I get you.
You got to roll with playerswho are playing better at that
time, but you also drafted withnumber one.
You need to have them in thosemoments where it's high, like

(01:08:08):
high stakes.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
And he has the confidence because it was a
three that he missed yesterday,where the game was close, and
he's getting in his bag and I'mlike this is a terrible three.
He shot it and he missed itshort and I go.
I like that, though I want youto take that terrible three and

(01:08:31):
miss it short, because thattells me you practice that three
and you make it, but you'recomfortable.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
And with Dyson Deck again, I don't think the Hawks
can build a championship teamwith the way they're constructed
, Like it's not set up forchampionship.
We're talking about another JoeJohnson-esque run right.
A little four seed, five seed.
Maybe we get hot.
But Dyson Daniels is theperfect two guard for Trey Young

(01:09:01):
.
He plays defense and he canstill get 20 off of Trey when
you need it.
Rishashay, I wish he was inyear two right now.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
I wish we're getting year three Richa Shea next year,
because I think he can score22-23.
Like just off of just beingthere.
Because he can shoot, he canshoot it shoot.
He can sprint, he can shoot it.
Dog, he's a big shooter.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
And you'll have two different guys that can
distribute the ball around.
Jalen Johnson's an excellentpasser.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
I see him as a good passer too.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Yeah, and obviously Trey leads the league in assists
.
It feels like almost every year.
Certainly he's in the top three.
Yeah, I think that what they'rebuilding is nice.
They do need it.
There's going to have to be apoint in time where they're
going to need another guy.
Either that or Jalen Johnson'sgoing to have to be even more
than what he was this year.

(01:10:02):
Like next year, He'll almosthave to take another step, which
it's going to have to be 27.
I'm here to say that I thinkhe's the best player on the team
.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
In different aspects.
Yeah, he is, but then again,like he just don't garner the
attention that Trey gets.
Trey comes around half court.
He's getting blitzed by twopeople.
Trey gets guarded so crazy.
And the only other person youreally see gets guarded like him

(01:10:34):
is like steph and maybe shealike, because trey's so dynamic
with his court vision, craftylike that you know that he can
one-on-one he might kill whoever, but then one-on-one.
I also see Trey struggle ifhe's not getting the screen.
It's a lot.

(01:10:54):
I've been going through myemotions these last 24 hours
really.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
I don't think you can truly evaluate Trey if you've
never watched him in person.
Because if you're just watchingit on TV, if you're watching
highlights and you're not in thearena to understand some of
those stupid bad shots he takes,it's him controlling the game.

(01:11:20):
They're on a run.
I need this to get us going orwe're killing.
Right now I'm trying to put thedagger in them.
So if I dot dot step back 30foot three, they're dead.
And when it works, it works.

(01:11:42):
But I mean the guy plays at thebasket at 5'11" Is Trey Young,
and maybe this is my Atlantabias.
Is Trey Young like one of themost slept-on superstars of our
life?

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Like the nigga is 25 and 10 since he joined the
league.
He's definitelyunderappreciated and I don't
know what it is, but there doesseem to be some sort of hate
given to him and I think even onTwitter I had seen seen
recently somebody made a reallygood point he's never had an
all-star teammate, and when Isay all-star teammate I mean a
teammate that was an all-star inthe same season as him.

(01:12:22):
Yeah, he played with DeJounteMurray, who made an all-star
team.
Yeah, he played with.
I think somebody put up apicture it was like Vince Carter
.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
Yeah, it was like stupid as fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Yeah, he put up with Jeff T Right exactly, and so
it's definitely something thatisn't talked about enough and
you know some people get thenotion.
I know that it felt likeearlier in his career I think
you had sent me a video of LouWill talking about it, but him

(01:12:53):
being a selfish player whichit's hard to be a selfish player
if you fucking leave the leagueand assist that's hard to try
and pull off and tell me that'san oxymoron.
Right Like that doesn't makeany sense in reality.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Especially when you could go for 30 every night and
you're choosing not to.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
He needs to be more efficient, though.
It's a lot.
I mean I watch since Trey,especially since Trey's been in
the league, I've watched atleast 85 to 90% of the Halls
games.
So I've seen a lot I've seen.
I just wish he could get backto when he averaged 45, shot 45%
from the field, 38 from three.

(01:13:32):
Like if Trey could get back tothat he would be more regarded
as like he wouldn't be a slipper, because people like don't see
the Trey having the highesttotal has been in.
Like oh man, he just shot sixfor 16.
Like, oh man, he just shotseven for for 20 but didn't have

(01:13:52):
11 free throws.
But oh, he's shooting 40 fromthe field, 34 from three
different things like that.
I mean that's my biggest gripewith him too.
I do think he is slept onbecause people are just box
score watchers.
They just watch a box score.
They they see that a personlose and they think it's empty

(01:14:16):
stats.
I'm like it's not really empty.
When a person has a positiveplus minus, he can't help what
happens when he's on the bench.
So a lot of times it's really,it's really not even that empty,
but like trade just getsguarded crazy too.
This.
I mean it's, it's.
He's definitely slept on um butum.

(01:14:36):
Back to what you had also saidabout jalen.
Johnson has to take anotherstep.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
I think dyson and reason she has to take the more
of a step than jay will know forsure I agree that they would
have to take more of one, but Iguess, in terms of for them to
be a legitimate team, that canbe Cavaliers, yeah, like a title
.
I'm not going to saynecessarily, oh, they're a top

(01:15:02):
five favorite out in Vegas orsomething, but like that team
that where you're like, don'tsleep on them being this is a
sneaky team that really can makethat type of noise.
Right, basically, kind of pickup where you were in 2021, right
, like kind of pick up where youleft off there.
I feel like Jalen Johnson, youhave to have both of those guys

(01:15:24):
have to be all-stars.
Right, like they have to andthey don't, and not literally
voted in as all-stars but I'msaying
their level of play.
They've got to both beall-stars.
You need Dyson Daniels tocontinue doing what he's doing,
certainly on the defensive end,but then take that step as a
shooter or something Right, likea guy that can knock down those

(01:15:44):
open shots, because againyou've got two guys that can
facilitate one big, one small.
Both guys can play out of theirfucking ass.
Then you have Arisa Shea right,who's having these big games.
He's not even taking dribblesto get this right.
He's cutting to the basket,he's catching and shooting.
Can he become more consistentTo me?
I like the depth that the Hawkshave, and I killed the DeAndre

(01:16:08):
Hunter trade.
I really did.
I thought it was fucking awful.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
I tried to ship him out for the last three years,
but why?

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
do it when he's finally playing his best, his
most consistent season ofbasketball.
Yeah, and that's understandable.
But I felt like the pieces theygot back weren't high pieces,
like I didn't feel like GorgeousYang and Karis LeBert were, and
it was nothing to get.
Like I knew Karis LeBert couldplay but like, considering that

(01:16:36):
he was basically a 20-a-nightguy, you already had paid him,
which now his contract looks alittle better than when they
initially gave it to him.
But I don't know, I didn't likethe way that they did it.
I feel like they could havegotten more even if they had
waited until this offseason.
But again, they probably wantedto develop Reese and Shea more.
But, like you said too, quinn'smaybe fucking up the lineup

(01:17:00):
just a little bit too, becauseyou've got a guy like Reese and
Shea not getting the consistent30 minutes a game type of
minutes on the court.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
I need to know I'm getting my minutes and my shots.
But you know the real problemwith the Atlanta Hawks.
It's the fucking city ofAtlanta.
You can't get free agentsbecause oftentimes high-end free
agents are married.
Atlanta is the fun city, notthe live-in city.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Well them motherfuckers, move here later.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Yeah, that's after they're done playing and they've
been retired for a while andthey got divorced and now they
got to leave LA because it coststoo much and they still want to
live a good life.
So they come to Atlanta.
But serious, I was listening toAtlanta, but it's serious.
I was listening to one of themplay a podcast and they were
trying to recruit Rudy Gay tocome to Atlanta one year as a

(01:17:58):
free agent.
He was like my wife man, sheyeah, I didn't even know that.
Yeah, but just think about it Ifyou're an NBA player,
especially if you play in theEast, you come to Atlanta twice
a year just to hoop.
You do that over about eightyears.

(01:18:23):
Your off seasons, your singleyears.
You got you a little Atlantapiece down here.
That's always here that yourNBA wife knows about.
But don't ask about, don't careabout yeah now you're saying
I'm gonna move to Atlanta itlooks spooky.
Atlanta's a hard city to be ata committed relationship in if

(01:18:48):
you move around.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
I swear I never thought about that.
That's definitely right.
Hawks is going to have to.
As much as I like Reese's shade, it was just a tough year to
have the number one.
That's really what it was.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
It was the worst year to have it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
I like what Reese's shade can be.
I like what reason shape can be.
I definitely want to see himmore aggressive with the ball in
his hand because I don't thinkhe has a good handle.
He doesn't have a good handle.
I don't think he really trustshimself really driving in, like
sizing up a person and likegetting to the rim.
I think he's more of a likecatch the ball on the wing quick

(01:19:33):
and make a quick decision,drive in on somebody.
That's more of his game.
He French, you said what.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
He French.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
Yeah, facts.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
That nigga's that aggressive.

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
He's not when he ain't aggressive.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
He fine, but he's not aggressive.

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
What about Rudolph?
You don't think he bangs downlow?

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
Bro, the only French niggas that really like play
physical niggle ball are theAfricans, like Yabusele, not the
mixed niggas Like Giannis, heGreek right, giannis is a nigga,
though he ain't mixed, yeah,and I just think that they don't

(01:20:22):
have, that they don't playbasketball in that same physical
, aggressive way.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
I blame Tony Parker.

Speaker 3 (01:20:32):
Tony Parker fucked his team.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
He set the precedence for these niggas, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
He cheated on Eva Longoria with his teammate's
wife.
He's a sleazeball.

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
No, he's crazy.
He's crazy, I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
If you get Eva Longoria, you can cheat on her
With your teammate's wife.
Hey man.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
That's a good point DeFish Matt Barnes.
Look, nothing new under the sun.
Hey, but hey.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
They were current teammates at that point.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
They were still teammates period.
They were still teammates atone point.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
And Fish got the beats put on him too, and then
that's turned around and coachedthem boys.
In high school he went from anNBA coach to a WNBA coach to
coaching his stepboys, and hebetter not take them out the
game, because he'd know whathappened when he'd get to the
locker room.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
Coaching his stepboys .

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
He's still with her, though.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
Still with her.
They're married.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
I don't think Matt cares about being with her based
on his current or ex-fiance.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
Yeah, he was tripping too.
Yeah, she came out crying.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
Let's think about him and his baby moms, right?
Not personally to them, how yougoing to be running around on
your baby moms.
Be done with her and then putthe beats on her new man.

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
I mean, I think the circumstance should be why and
that's why he beat him up orwanted to beat him up.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
No's why he beat him up or wanted to beat him up now
they say, apparently Gil was onthe phone with him and he told
the story yeah, they both hadtold it, they crazy imagine
being with your shorty and herex just pull up at the barbecue

(01:22:34):
and run the nose to you Becausethat nigga is off doing
something that he ain't supposedto leave.
He on business.
He just show up at the crib,jump the gate and just walk in
the house and start swinging.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
I'm sure if you could be a fly on the wall for a
situation like that.
Yes, but look either way, thisHeat game looks like it's just
about wrapped up Hawks Heat.
What are your predictions, joe?
What do you think is going tohappen at State Farm on Friday?

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
I mean I think I had told you I didn't feel confident
that the Hawks was going to wineither game.
I didn't feel good about howthe Hawks ended the season, even
though they technically endedthe season on a three-game win
streak.
But it was against the Sixers,the Nets and then the Magic.
When they both sat, everybodyyeah was the Nets, and then the
Magic when they both sateverybody.

(01:23:30):
Before that.
The Hawks was probably like5-11 in their last 16 games
something wild like that I think.
I mean, it's just a team thatplays at a slower pace.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
You have to get Just like Orlando.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
Just like Orlando.
If you can get Miami off theirpace, you just have to control
the game.
You just have to control thegame.
If they can't control the game,they won't win.
Last time the Hawks played theHeat which was within the last
month, from what I remember Imean they got whooped.
They were down by 20 early,like in the third quarter, ended

(01:24:07):
up losing by like eight.
But you know it was likegarbage time, minutes coming
back and I don't know.
I don't really have that muchfaith in the Hawks to win it.
I just think I need therotations to be correctly.
I don't want to see Don Barlowwin the game.
We don't have to try to playbig against them because they

(01:24:31):
only play really two bigs.
So I need V Krejski to get moreminutes.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
You fucking love this guy.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
Bro.
I mean he shot 44% from three.
It's tough having people that'snot in rotation that's not
shooting a high clip.
That's always been the Hawks'biggest problem.
The players who played the mostthat was in their rotation was
never the best shooters outsideof bogey, like we had Garrison
Matthews who wasn't playing.
Garrison Matthews shot 47 fromthree, came in the season out

(01:25:00):
the rotation, which I get it.
It's only so many people youcan play outside of, like what
the Grizzlies was doing thisyear, so I mean yeah, you saw
Jazz.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
They do it too.
They've got the worst record inthe NBA.
I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
Another team that runs a five ten eleven players a
game.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
They play a lot bro.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
Will Hardy's a great NBA coach, though.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
His ass should have been fired yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
Nah, you've got to give him a chance.
You've got to give him a chance.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
They've gotten worse every year.
He's been there three years.
They're not trying to get good,though You've got a pretty good
player at guard there that youdon't let play enough minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
It's just weird to me he might win games.
You got to understand this guy,danny.
He wants Coop and he wants AJLike he wants AJ the bouncer to
have a less than stellar collegeseason so he can drop into the

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top five, so he can haveback-to-back shitty years and
the ping-pong balls might workfor him Because the NBA would
kill to get Utah good again.
That's a good all-Americanwhite city that nobody goes to.
I know it's a state and I callit the city.
Same thing Nobody goes to it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
It's one of those sports towns that's got that one
thing.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
But you got to understand, danny is behind the
NIL to get AJ to Bantam.
Yeah to.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
BYU.
Right, yeah, no, I knew thatthat he wanted the donors for
sure, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
James Wiseman was ineligible because Penny was his
high school coach, AAU coach,before he was a college coach
and gave him some bread.
But apparently Danny can justfucking feed this nigga some
money and then likely draft him.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
Well, that program doesn't have anything to do with
the Jazz.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
Tomato tomato, tomato , tomato.
I hope he get Ace Bailey outthere in Utah because that's
going to be a fucking shit showfor them.

Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
Sick.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
They're not going to win too many games.
And then, Lee, what would yousay?
What are your thoughts on?
What do you think the Hawks aregoing to do against the Heat?

Speaker 2 (01:27:29):
They'll probably win for no reason and then get swept
by Cleveland, maybe five.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
That's what I think.
I actually think that they'regoing to win the game, and it's
not just because of the homecourt advantage but, like you
know, if you remember, a fewyears ago they beat the Heat in
a play-in game.
The year the Heat went to thefucking NBA Finals.
Yeah, they beat them in theplay-in in Miami with playoff

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Jimmy, jimmy's big playoff run.
My expectation is just because Iknow how these Hawks playoff
games go, especially whenthey're the home games they
typically come out and theyshoot the three-wheel.
They'll end up shooting over50% or something crazy from
three.
Gorgeous Niang will havefucking like 24 points on eight
of 10 from three type shootingLike that's what it's going to.
That's what's going to, but weknow how that works at that in

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that arena, because that is howthese games typically go.
For them, I expect the Hawks towin, and then I think they'll
get one from Cleveland, justbecause I mean.
I know Jalen Johnson played ina couple of those games that
they did win.
But remember, they were thefirst team to beat them this
year and they beat them two.
They beat them like onback-to-back nights, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
Yeah, it was back-to-back.

Speaker 1 (01:28:42):
I expect them to be able to get one.
They should get just, even ifit's a gentleman's sweep type
thing.
They're down 3-0 and they justwent on some bullshit late in
the game.
Trey has a 35-16 in four games.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
Let's talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:28:59):
He somehow dominates the boards.
Something like that's gottahappen.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
We've gotta get a better big man than a 6-7 guy.
I like, I like him.
I think he's a good NBA player,but you got Jokic out there.
This is who you lining up atcenter.
He cool against Bam, but likeagainst a real footer he's

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nothing.
But again, let's talk about thereal NBA, not the real NBA
excuse me the more popular NBA,parley.
Pete, do you want to start onplayoff shit or do you want to
just kick shit on some NBAseason ending?
What are our thoughts on theseason?

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
I wanted to go ahead.
Let's go ahead and get intothese series real quick and we
can you know just everybodyquickly here just summarize kind
of what it is that they think.
But I'm going to go through theseries and kind of the way that
Vegas has it set up and thenI'm going to eventually, once we
finish that, give everybody mypicks, because then we will
actually finally have a six-pack, because this is something that
we can get out before theplayoffs start.
But we'll start off with, to me, probably the most intriguing

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series You've got the Clippersand the Nuggets.
Clippers are coming into theseries as a favorite minus 130
to Denver's plus 110.
Might end up being the mostentertaining series of the first
round.
Me personally, I think theClippers are going to win
because I just think thatthey're a better team.
You got a disarray Nuggets teamno, mike Malone.

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Like the way that that kind ofjust ended is a little weird.
And I'll give a team likeMemphis credit for how they
fought yesterday because Ithought that they were going to
bow out and maybe the Nuggetswill do the same.
But the Clippers are ultimatelyplaying better.
They are better and, you know,jokic might be the best player
on the floor, but then thesecond, third and fourth best

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player play for the Clippers.
So I like the Clippers to getit done, but with the home court
advantage.
I do think that it goes seven.
I do think it's going to goseven, but I just expect the
Clippers to win that series.

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
Clips in six.

Speaker 3 (01:30:59):
I like Clips too.
I like Clips in at least six.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
Hey, Rashad McCant said that Joker and Russell
Westbrook are the best duo inthe West.

Speaker 3 (01:31:14):
He's crazy, but I think they're a good duo.
I just think that I don't knowThey've been cutting that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
They've been cutting Russ's minutes anyways since
Malone got fired, so like.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
Yes, he's not playing anymore because yeah, Christian
Brown's been playing.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
He's been playing pretty good, but you know,
Porter's kind of tailed off.
It felt like for me here at theend of the year, and maybe
that's because I have him on myfantasy team and I would just
look up and I'm like man, he'snot really shooting the ball
like that.
He just had to bring that shitup, didn't he?

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
Yeah, for the most part, Win a little league, he
Didn't he?
Yeah, for the most part, win alittle league, he win a league.
He's got to say well, you're onmy fantasy team.

Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
He's in the war?
Well, but I did.
And look, hey, it's a war ofattrition, baby, everybody's got
to be able to make those moveswhen the time is right.
And this time it was me thatdid it, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
I guess Look last man standing, joe, we don't have to
go into it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
I'm mad Well look, guys like Zubek really came in,
which is another reason why Ilike the Clippers a lot.
Who was it, lee, that you sent?
You sent something.
Somebody picked him to bedefensive player of the year Ron
Temps.
I believe, I don't know One ofthose ESPN students.
He averaged two blocks a game,but I don't think he's the

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defensive player of the yearDyson Daniels, by the way,
because we didn't really saythat before we moved on he
honestly should win defensiveplayer of the year.
He's not going to, but hereally should be the defensive
player of the year.
I don't know how he?
Doesn't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
The Hawks didn't win enough games, so how can he be
the defensive player of the year?
I bet he was the best defenderin the NBA.

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
This year, Once Wemby was ineligible and it became
anyone's award, you had therandom Draymond Green stuff come
up where he became the favoriteat one point.
Then Evan Mobley, I guess, wasalready kind of always in it and
so was Dyson.
But to me Dyson has proven tobe the best defender in the
league.
He's not just the bestperimeter defender, he's the

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best defender in the fuckingleague.

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
He really is.
Bill Simmons says he's votingfor Lou Dort.

Speaker 1 (01:33:23):
See, and that's another one of those things
where you start just throwingguys in, because they're on the
best, the quote-unquote bestrecord in the NBA at least.
And you have to feel like, eventhough most people think SGA
which SGA is not the MVP, butthat's another story for another
day too you just start throwingguys in to get awards.

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Do you remember the year theSixers went to the NBA Finals
with Allen Iverson?
I think that they almost had aclean sweep of awards that year.
Aaron McKee was sixth man ofthe year.
Ai won MVP Mutombo wasdefensive player of the year.

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
Larry Brown.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
Larry Brown was coach of the year.
I don't know who won mostimproved.
Maybe it wasn't somebody on theSixers, but regardless, they
almost swept the awards.
And then they got gentlemenswept by Kobe Shaq and Phil.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
We got an amazing meme, gif image of ai stepping
over tyler great we did.

Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
I remember I watched that game.
I remember watching that gameas a kid.
I bet you did.

Speaker 3 (01:34:24):
Ai went crazy that night, dropped like 49 yeah like
the most in the debut ever inthe NBA finals.

Speaker 1 (01:34:31):
And they won.
In LA.
Did you watch the Lakers did?
Hadn't lost a playoff gameuntil that game.

Speaker 3 (01:34:37):
Yeah, 16-1.

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
Did you watch the game with your knee pads on?

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
That's a good one, lee.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I had my helmet on aswell, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:34:52):
Well, I didn't.
I had my helmet on as well.
I mean, I had a brace forimpact.
Oh well, I didn't know you werea helmet guy, because I don't
think those types of jokes arefunny.

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
Oh, that's a good one .
Lee hey, real classy.
Lee, real classy, hey, big T,big T.
Well, the power of the big T.
But moving along, speaking ofthe Lakers, we get a Lakers
Timberwolves first round series.
I think that that's going to bethe series that everybody is
going to want to watch the most.

(01:35:22):
It's not going to be the bestone, because that Nuggets
Clippers is going to be the bestseries, but a lot of intrigue
there.
You got Ant-Man series, but alot of intrigue there.
You got Ant-Man, you got Braun,you got Luka, you got the
history of.
Minneapolis Lakers going with it.
I mean, there's a lot of storyto like here.

(01:35:43):
Gobert Randall, there's a lotto like about the series.
I think the Lakers, I thinkthey can do it at five.
It's going to go six though.

Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
I think they'll win at six.
Dumpster dive arrive alive,five for five.

Speaker 1 (01:35:56):
Lakers at five.

Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
I think y'all sleeping on the Timberwolves.
I'm going to be honest, I thinkthat's going to be the best
series.
My bad, but yeah, I thinkthat's going to be the best
series, honestly.
I mean, I see the Lakers, yeah,he thinks it's going to go
seven.

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Timberwolves ended the seasonwith such a great record,
although their strength ofschedule was very low.
But I think they won a lot ofgames that they should have won
from like a back-to-back to aPacers, back-to-back to the
Pacers.
But I got I got friends thatlive in Minnesota so I talked to
them about Minnesota ball a lot.
I just think that they can playhim.

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I mean, they can play him.
I think that it's really justgoing to depend on how much
Austin Reeves get off Really,because I think I'm going to get
his, I think Julius in the rolethat they have Julius playing,
which is more of a facilitator,second facilitator, just make

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the right passes.
He really bought into that role.
I think that it's going to befine.
Divincenzo is going to playlike DiVincenzo from last year.
He's going to fire.
Yeah, I think it's just goingto come to the bench and really,
if Rudy gets played off thecourt or not, if Rudy gets
played off the court, then it'sa wrap.

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
Well, you know who the Lakers got 77.
You know him and Rudy.
They kind of got this thingwhere, if Luca ever needs to get
going, you know some playersthey go try to get foul so they
can make a free throw.
He comes down, hey, pick androll.

(01:37:41):
Come here, bring Rudy, bringRudy.
Hey, look, you going to pickuntil he switch.
You are picking until he switch.
Hey, if he don't switch, reset.
Yeah, no, no, no, we're goingto keep doing this until he
switch.
I need to get my rhythm back.
That's how he talked to Rudy,to his face on the court.

Speaker 3 (01:38:02):
I just don't understand how you can be that
much of a DP or Y and be aliability at the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
But I mean, the media is stupid.
They don't understand defenselike real basketball defense
doesn't show up in the statsheet because it's the pass that
the guy didn't get.
You know what I mean?
It's the difficult shot that hemay have made but he knows he
can't go back to because nexttime it's gonna get blocked or

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or ripped out.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (01:38:29):
yeah, picking up his pivot foot and you're all over
him and he can't see over youand he can't make a pass and he
throws it to somebody else andsomebody else gets the steal.
But you're the one that causedthe steal.

Speaker 2 (01:38:40):
Right Nigga DPOY is blocks and rebounds and I didn't
know rebounding was a defensivestat.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
Defensive rebounding yeah, defensive rebounding yeah,
it's defensive reboundingyou're boxing out.

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
You're the one going for the ball.
It's defense.
Bro, you watch the nba.
There's not a lot of offensiveboard crashers night tonight and
a lot, a lot, of, a lot ofrebounds are it's two niggas
under the basket?
They're both on defense.

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
A lot of five out, nba, you know I mean yeah the
ball just bounces in the rightdirection and you'll be there.
And if you're fucking sevenfeet and you've got a seven, you
know, eight-foot wingspan,you're going to be able to grab
a.
You're going to be able tocover a lot of radius from where
the ball bounces.

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
Yeah, but back.
But Joe, back to your point.
I think Ant's going to get hisand I think the Lakers either
have to commit to letting Antget his and shut everything down
, and maybe they switch it upgame to game, or they blitz the
shit out of Ant and say, hey,Julius Randle, beat us and be

(01:39:46):
efficient.

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
They got to do that.
That'll be the key.

Speaker 1 (01:39:54):
That'll be the key.
I don't see that shit.
I think that the lakers havethe best trio in the nba and
lebron of all people.
We have to look at it this waytoo how many more opportunities
is this man really gonna have towin to try and catch kobe?

Speaker 3 (01:40:10):
yes next year.

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
Next year's gonna be his best shot because they're
gonna get cheap free agents andthey'll have a full year
together and brian can opt outand the rumor is he'll take less
.
He's gonna let them out theroster before he resigns.

Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
He's going to let them fill out the roster before
he resigns.
He should do that, but I don'tknow.
I think if they beat theTimberwolves, I don't think they
have to really worry aboutanybody else I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:40:43):
I like the Timberwolves a lot.
If they play the Clippers inthe West Finals, that will be
something I think it will besome.

Speaker 3 (01:40:52):
That's a team that they would worry about.

Speaker 1 (01:40:53):
I don't worry about OKC, houston, golden State.
I know Denver's been theirkiller but again, I don't think
Denver's going to be the killer.
Let's say that they do.
Denver is a wounded dog runningaround, you know, squealing
right now.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
That's really what's going on there.
It's a prize dog that gotrabies man, if it corners you,
you're donezo.
But that clock is ticking.
We just don't know when it'sgoing to tick out.
But you talk about the Clippers.
Luka loves the Clippers.

(01:41:30):
He's a torpedo.
He loves to hit the Clippers.
Luka loves the Clippers.
He's a torpedo.
He loves to hit the Clippership.
And I think the advantage thatwe have to remember is LeBron
gets the whistle and as well asJames Harden has played all year
, we can't necessarily throwaway his playoff resume, and I'm

(01:41:55):
a James Harden truther.
I think James Harden is anamazing basketball player.
He doesn't get enough creditfor how he has changed the game
with the sidesteps and you knowthat double sidestep thing he
does.

Speaker 1 (01:42:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
He doesn't get the credit for that and, being a
nigga who's averaging like 35and 8.

Speaker 3 (01:42:21):
He's crazy, he's insane.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
In his prime he was not consistently that in the
playoffs, so what makes mebelieve he's going to be that
post-prime?
I mean, it's hard to put up 36in the playoffs, so what makes
me believe he's going to be thatpost-prom?

Speaker 3 (01:42:33):
I mean it's hard to put up 36 in the playoffs,
especially when you're notplaying the same teams that you
were putting up your best gamesagainst.
So the whistle different, allthat.
I think James Hart is going tobe fine.
I like the way his two-man gamehas been with Zubac.
I mean I've always liked NormanPowell.
I was actually very upset theHawks didn't try to get Norman

(01:42:55):
Powell when Toronto traded himoriginally, just because I could
see the type of player NormanPowell was.
I like Norman Powell.
Bogey's been shooting like 44%for them since he's been on the
Clippers.

Speaker 1 (01:43:06):
Kawhi's been playing 36 minutes a night.
That is the biggest thing to me.
Kawhi's been playing 36 minutesa night.
That is the biggest thing to me.

Speaker 3 (01:43:11):
Kawhi's amazing, Kawhi's amazing, and yeah, I
mean I just think there's aChris Dunn's been playing great
defense too.
It's just a lot you mean former.

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
Hawk, Chris Dunn right.

Speaker 3 (01:43:24):
Former Hawk, chris Dunn, that didn't get his
minutes and we had man, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:43:31):
Hey, hey, hey.
Max the Cleaver practiced today.
Full participant.

Speaker 3 (01:43:36):
He don't need no minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
You put him out there on the perimeter, he could be a
gorgeous yang right.

Speaker 3 (01:43:44):
I mean he can, bro.
That man ain't played in,hasn't even played this year.

Speaker 1 (01:43:49):
No, he hasn't played, but still you give him 10
minutes.
He comes in for heat checks andstuff like that.
Maybe you've got a seven-pointlead, but you're just trying to
kind of increase that lead alittle bit.
I mean, we'll see, we'll see.
But on to the final series thatthey've got up because we're
not going to do any of thehypotheticals, yet we're going
to go with what's up.
We're not going to do any of thehypotheticals, yet we're going

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to go with what's up.
You got the Golden StateWarriors at the Houston Rockets.
They said that this is only thesecond time in NBA playoff
history since people were ableto bet on series that the
seventh seed has been favoredover the two.
I bet you guys Lakers overMemphis.
No, so that wasn't the series,because I was literally about to
say what did you think that theother one was?
It was actually when the Lakersplayed the Suns.

(01:44:33):
Do you remember?

Speaker 2 (01:44:35):
that?
Yeah, because AD and LeBron hadbeen hurt down the stretch, but
they were good before that.

Speaker 1 (01:44:41):
They were up 2-1 and AD got hurt in that third game,
and then the Suns won three in arow.
That was the only other timethere's been a seven favorite
over a two.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
And then they went to the finals and they got rid of
everybody who got them there,and now they're on fire.

Speaker 1 (01:44:59):
Yeah, they're done.
They're done.
But Golden State minus 170,houston plus 145.
I'd like to think that GoldenState's going to win.
Obviously that's kind of theconsensus around there.
That series is going to golonger maybe than I originally
anticipated.
Last night, the way that GoldenState looked, I was thinking,
man, I was like shit.

(01:45:20):
If things go the right way,this could be over in five in
reality, but I think that it'llgo six.
But I do like Golden State.
It's going to be a tough matchupfor them if they don't get a
guy like Kaminga involved,though because, they need that
younger, athletic size somebodythat can go out there and kind

(01:45:41):
of be with Thompson on the floor.
Like they're going to need thatbecause they don't really have.
I guess Jimmy could be the guy,but like he's going to be
shouldering so much and peopleforget Jimmy is still 36.
Steph's, what 36 too?
Is Jimmy 36?
Yeah, here we can fact check it, he's 35, but still.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
Jimmy is so fire though, yeah, I don't even know
what he does, well, offensively.

Speaker 3 (01:46:11):
They combine for like 40 free throws, 30 some free
throws.

Speaker 1 (01:46:14):
That's crazy and 70 like 75 points though yeah, but
that's, that's not sustainable.

Speaker 3 (01:46:25):
Like you said, the Kaminga thing they need Kaminga
to step up.
I mean, they just have a wholebunch of high energy players and
that's just not.
You just can't expect twopeople to carry your load.
That's crazy.
I was trying to ignore it, butyeah, that's crazy.

(01:46:47):
I think it's easy to pickGolden State just because
they're the team that I mean,we've seen Golden State, we've
seen playoff Jimmy, it's so easyto pick them.
But I just think that I need tosee what Houston's rotation is,

(01:47:07):
game one really, before I'mlike, yeah, they can win or not.
I don't want to go Golden Statejust because I just think 75
points is just Not going to beable to do that consistently.
No no, you're not 30-somethingfree throws.
Jimmy shot 18.
No, steph shot 12.

(01:47:29):
When did we see Steph shoot 12?
Not seeing that, and that's thething about it.
I love the sets that they runbecause Jimmy and Draymond are
such willing passers, but I justthink that if I did, I kind of
want to go Houston.

(01:47:49):
I like how Houston played.
I want to go of, want to goHouston.
I like how Houston played.
I want to go Houston.
Yeah, I want to go Houston.
I want to go Houston in likesix, wow, six, yeah you think
that they end them at the Chase.

Speaker 1 (01:48:08):
They don't call it.
What do they call it?

Speaker 3 (01:48:10):
I think it's Chase.
No, I know it's.

Speaker 1 (01:48:12):
Chase Center.
But I'm just saying they don'tgive it like a funky fucking
nickname, right?

Speaker 2 (01:48:15):
No, because they lost their real fans when they moved
over there.

Speaker 1 (01:48:19):
Ah, of course Big Tech got them, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:48:23):
What says you, lee?
I think the Warriors win it,but I don't say that confidently
, I don't say that confidently.
I don't say that confidently.
If Houston gets out and getsrunning and they can maintain
12-point leads, they'll be fine.

Speaker 3 (01:48:47):
But if the games are tight, Warriors.

Speaker 2 (01:48:48):
I just can't.
I mean Kaminga's not playing,and we know why Kaminga's not
playing.
He didn't sign the deal andthen they could get Jimmy while
he was hurt.
So, hey, big dog, yeah, no,we're definitely going to
suppress your market because ifyou go crazy in the playoffs
we're going to have to pay you.
But you know, I just rooted.

(01:49:11):
Here's the thing I want Houstonto win, kind of sort of,
because I want LeBron to sendE-May Udoka packing because,
fuck, e-may.
I think E-May is a really goodcoach, but I think he suffers

(01:49:38):
from main character syndrome alittle bit, Because there's just
too many riffs with him andstar players and it's like he
made, you wasn't doing you, youwas, you was a hustle player.
As a player, don't become astar off being the star coach.
Who argues with star?
I don't know.
I just don't like Emea Doka.

Speaker 1 (01:49:58):
Hey man, he's got a big ego he was fucking staffers
while Neil Long was at home withthe kid.
He's got that type of an ego,clearly.
And so, you know, let the manhave something.
He's getting his second chance.
He's got a team that probablyshouldn.
And so you know, let the manhave something.
He's getting his second chance.

Speaker 2 (01:50:15):
He's got a team that probably shouldn't be where
they're at where they arecurrently.
No, he's a great coach.
He's a top-end coach in theleague.
I just think he's a fuckingprick.

Speaker 1 (01:50:22):
You know he got guys in Boston taking credit for what
would have been his title.

Speaker 2 (01:50:27):
Oh God, fuck Joe Mazz .
Joe Mazz might be the worstcoach, with a ring behind Doc
Rivers, in my fucking lifetime.

Speaker 3 (01:50:34):
That's fair.
I like that.
I'm not a Doc fan at all.
Houston's a really weird teamto me because like they I mean
if you look at their like fieldgoal efficiency and all that
they were very inefficient, theyjust played great defense.

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
They are literally the new.
I hate to say it like this.
They're almost like the newGrizzlies and I know Dylan
Brooks obviously being there isthe correlation.
But, matt, talk about that.
I tell you what you want toknow who's going to win this
series?
Whoever gets into who's headfirst, if Draymond crashes out
before Dylan Brooks or if DylanBrooks crashes out before
Draymond?

Speaker 2 (01:51:13):
I don't think Draymond will crash out.
I think he may crash out in agame, but it will be confined to
that game.
I don't think Draymond crashesout over a seven-game series
when Dylan Brooks I'll tell youabout these foreign Even though
he's Canadian still foreignthese foreign mixed guys Can't

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always trust them.

Speaker 1 (01:51:40):
We'll have to check and see how many texts they have
, because obviously that couldbecome an issue.
Certainly, right.
Because you can get suspended.
If they're both that close, Idon't know how many they got.

Speaker 3 (01:51:51):
It starts over in the playoff.
You get like five in theplayoffs or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:55):
Yeah, Draymond just got like five takes in 2016
because that nigga was wilding.

Speaker 3 (01:51:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:52:00):
Idiot, idiot.
But okay, now we'll shift ourfocus to the East.
I'll start off with the seriesthat we all know the answer,
because we can kind of justone-hitter-quitter this Magic
Celtics I like the Celtics.
In five, I think the Magic willget one game at home.

Speaker 2 (01:52:14):
You said Magic.

Speaker 1 (01:52:15):
Celtics yeah, Give me the Celtics in five.
Orlando will get one game athome, but they'll never beat
them in Boston.
So Celtics in five.

Speaker 3 (01:52:26):
Celtics in five?
Yeah, four or five.

Speaker 1 (01:52:30):
They could sweep them , but I don't think they're
going to sweep them or they endup giving them troubles over the
year.

Speaker 2 (01:52:35):
The Magic are Celtic South, though In their roster
construction.
I'm not saying in style of play, but like big wings.
Point guards that aren't pointguards but play good, smart
Basketball.
They're building similarlyPoint guards that aren't point
guards but play good, smartbasketball.

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They're building similarly, andhopefully Jamal Mosley.
No, jamal Mosley is a bettercoach than Joe Mazzulla.
Joe Mazzulla is not a fuckingcoach.
I'm sorry he doesn't coach thatteam.
That team is coached fromupstairs like a baseball team.

Speaker 1 (01:53:11):
Yeah, you think Brad's calling the shots still,
huh.

Speaker 2 (01:53:13):
No, no, their analytic models runs the team
Like I was reading the top 10and three-pointers made three
Celtics Derek White, peytonPritchard and Jason Tatum.
You just shoot a lot of threes.
Yeah, exactly, and that's notcoaching, that's the analytic

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models.

Speaker 3 (01:53:35):
He just played five out the whole game and just
passed the ball around.

Speaker 2 (01:53:38):
Bro, it's disgusting basketball.
I was listening to Gil talkyesterday, right, and he was
like the best players win whenthey're put in the systems
because the system ain't forthem.
They're going to get their 25to 30.
But the system sets everybodyelse up to be their best and the

(01:54:00):
superstar figures out how toscore inside the system.
And he kind of they startedtalking about one of the years
in Washington where he wasaveraging 30, and Antoine,
Jamison and Caron were averaging20 and they're in the Princeton
offense.
How the fuck does a point guardscore 30 in a Princeton offense

(01:54:20):
and have two other 20-pointscores?
That doesn't really make sense.

Speaker 1 (01:54:29):
It's super duper interesting, but we'll move on
to the next series.
You got the Pistons and theKnicks, which I don't know why,
but a lot of people think thatthe Pistons have a shot at
winning this series, and I'vewatched some Pistons ball.
Obviously, without a doubt,what's the space that should be
the coach of the year?
Yeah, jb should be the coach ofthe year, jb should be the

(01:54:52):
coach of the year, because youdon't turn a 14-15 win team into
a what they won 45 games orsomething like that 44.
You don't do that pretty muchovernight with the same talent.

Speaker 3 (01:55:03):
And your second.
They added some people, but thereason why I think that they he
should be more of coach of theyear their second-leading scorer
broke his leg.
He hadn't played in like 60games.
Jay and Ivy.

Speaker 1 (01:55:18):
Yeah, I was going to say Jay and Ivy yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:55:20):
Malik Beasley was second in the league in
three-pointers made.
That's only because Ant-Manwent crazy the last game to pass
him.
Also, side note, Ant-Man ledthe league in three-pointers
made at 39.1%.
That's crazy.
He's too athletic to be scoringthrees at that clip.

Speaker 3 (01:55:44):
Are you getting better every year?
I know man.
Are you getting better everyyear?

Speaker 2 (01:55:49):
Ant-Man does no wrong .

Speaker 1 (01:55:50):
He could turn into the next, or possibly the
greatest player to ever come outof this great state that we all
live in.

Speaker 2 (01:55:58):
No, that's the guy who's going to the Hall of Fame
this year, being walked in byShaq.

Speaker 1 (01:56:02):
No, I mean as of today, but we'll see how it ends
.

Speaker 2 (01:56:06):
We saw how the engagement ended.

Speaker 1 (01:56:09):
Anyways, I like the Knicks to win this series.
The Knicks are such a becauseTibbs runs the starters into the
ground.
It's hard to gauge how manygames this will go, but, like I
would like to think Knicks insix, because I just don't think

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Detroit wins every game at homeand we all know what the MSG
crowd is like and this is aKnicks team that was put
together.
You made the cap move becauseyou did want to take that next
step.
They fell flat against all thegreat good teams this year, but
they handled business againstanyone that basically had a
worse record than them, and thePistons fall in that category.

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I think Cade's going to be amatchup problem.
Obviously, I'm going to assumethat they put OG.
It's going to be a swap of OGand McCall.
Yeah, yeah, bridges, they'regoing to be on him, I like.

Speaker 2 (01:57:03):
Bridges.
I think OG's a little too.
I don't think.
I think OG's a little too bigfor him, Paz.

Speaker 1 (01:57:11):
Yeah, because he's not going to really be out on
the, but he's a great perimeterdefender, I mean he can guard on
the perimeter.

Speaker 2 (01:57:16):
So he can guard wings on the perimeter.
K is a little bit different.
He can guard K.
I'm a K guy, sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:57:29):
I'm a big I'm just a big hoop fan.
I like Cade a lot, but I thinkhe can guard Cade At the end of
the day.
Players like that, you don'tregard them, you just try to
slow them down, but you have tothrow both bodies on them.
It's going to have to be a mixof Josh Hart and a Novi McCallum
.

Speaker 1 (01:57:44):
Yeah, a Josh Hart.
Yeah, you basically couldreally rotate all three of those
guys and that's the fun withtheir lineup.
You've got three guys that can.
They don't all do the samething, but they're all.
Relatively they're strongerdefenders, you know what I mean.
They've got size Josh Hart.
Obviously he's more of the glueof that group.
He can take on an assignmentfor a whole game and not score

(01:58:09):
any points right, so he doesn'teven have to really worry about
the offensemen He'll crashboards and play defense the
whole game.

Speaker 2 (01:58:14):
That's a nigga who really likes to play basketball.
You know some of these niggas,they like getting buckets and
doing all that other stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:58:22):
Fucking hell yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:58:24):
Josh Hart likes playing basketball.
He just want to get on thecourt and play.

Speaker 1 (01:58:29):
Yeah, so what are you guys' predictions for that
series?
The Knicks, knicks are sick.

Speaker 2 (01:58:36):
Nigga Isaiah Stewart is beast too.
Come on, man Cat's going tokill her.

Speaker 1 (01:58:40):
Jalen Durant is an underrated player, though.
I mean obviously Cat's better,but like, hey look, he gets on
those boards.

Speaker 3 (01:58:51):
What you joe I got nixon um five, six.
I don't.
I do yeah.
I just really don't see thepistons winning.
I think that, uh, pistons haveplayers that can create their
own shot.

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You can't have enough peoplethat can't create their own shot
.
I don't think they have enoughstoppers on defense, if really
any, if you really look at theirrotation, let's go look it up
and play physical.

Speaker 1 (01:59:28):
Yeah, because you start talking about is Beasley
Hardaway.
I guess Schroeder gets in.

Speaker 2 (01:59:34):
Thompson.

Speaker 1 (01:59:36):
Yeah, they got Tobias' ass too yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:59:39):
Are you thinking of Tobias as a stopper?

Speaker 1 (01:59:42):
No, fuck no.

Speaker 2 (01:59:44):
Hey hey, hey hey, not too much on Big T.

Speaker 1 (01:59:48):
Hey, yeah, I guess he went to Tennessee too, didn't
he?
Yeah, he did go to Tennessee,but yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:59:51):
I guess he went to Tennessee too, didn't he?
Yeah, he did go to Tennessee,but yeah, I just don't see him
as a stopper.
Like they'll play.
I mean, we'll see, oh, they gota sewer, they got a sewer,
forgot about a sewer.
Forgot about a sewer.

Speaker 1 (02:00:10):
You mean the left?
Tons of twin.

Speaker 3 (02:00:15):
Yeah, and he's better than Amin.

Speaker 2 (02:00:20):
Honestly, I don't know, because I know the media
is glazing Amin because he playson the two seat In the west.

Speaker 3 (02:00:28):
Amin is more, but they both have the same bounce.
But a man just plays more fluidbut like, like he's more of a
coast to coast type player,springy, but like they have,
they literally are like carboncopies of each other.
Athleticism wise.
Yeah, well, they're twins.

(02:00:49):
They're twins, yeah like yeah,obviously then, um, but I mean,
even even when they were growingup, like I was really surprised
.
I mean, I think a man hasbetter point guard traits than a
sore.
If a man has a better careerthan a sore, they will like
you'll see that.
But the men also don't playwith a cage.

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Like Cade is their facilitator,he's their Trae Young to the
Hawks.
So like you got Van Vliet, butlike they don't play through Van
Vliet, they don't play through,like they play through Shingun
and Jalen, really, and VanVliet's there but he's still
like their facilitator.
I just think that Asura is Imean Asura, I think they said

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growing up like on their teams,like Asura was winning MVP all
the time, like over Amin too.
Asura broke out last yearbefore Amin did as well, before
he got them blood clots so hehad to come back in ease back in
Asura.

(02:01:55):
So I just think it's just adifferent team.
I think Big Staff want to gowith more veteran than compared
to the Rockets, because theirwhole team are basically White.
Yeah, exactly, but I like theshort off yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:02:10):
I don't think that they're going to be able to
cover.
There's too much balancescoring on the Knicks I think
he's a nice player too, but theKnicks, they literally built
this team for this, and the lastthing that they will want to do
is which they're going to loseto Boston too, but they're not
going out to them.

(02:02:32):
We'll go ahead and take them,but we'll move along to the last
series that we do have up hereand another one that I think
goes seven bucks Pacers.
Obviously biggest thing here isknowing whether or not Dame is
going to be playing, and it will.
It sounds like he is going toplay, but the question is when
does he return?
Let's say he misses the firsttwo games.

Speaker 3 (02:02:52):
Huh, I thought they ruled him out for the series, is
that not?

Speaker 2 (02:02:56):
two games.

Speaker 3 (02:02:55):
I thought they ruled him out for the series, is that
not?

Speaker 2 (02:02:57):
I don't know how long it's out, I just know he's not.
I know that.

Speaker 1 (02:02:59):
They said he did some work on the court.
If they ruled him out, did theyrule him out today?

Speaker 3 (02:03:05):
I thought they ruled him out for the series.
I could be wrong.

Speaker 1 (02:03:11):
I hope not, shit.
I definitely want to pepperthis Bucs money line at plus 160
over the Pacers at minus 185.
I like the Bucs in seven.

Speaker 2 (02:03:23):
Something totally unrelated Jalen Ramsey was
spotted in Atlanta last night.

Speaker 3 (02:03:30):
Need that.

Speaker 1 (02:03:32):
They're not going to trade for him, though he's going
to have to get cut.

Speaker 2 (02:03:35):
No, I don't care who wins this series, because I'll
watch these games on accident.
The Bucs they're not a great TVshow, and neither is Indiana.
They're kind of reflective oftheir cities.

(02:03:58):
As far as their basketballteams, it's like, yeah, you're
big enough to have a team.
You know, Like Indianapolis isa major city, you know they have
football and basketball right.
Yeah, milwaukee has football andbaseball and Green Bay right.
Yeah, milwaukee has footballand baseball and Green Bay's not

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far.
Who the fuck want to go there?
Nobody want to watch that shit.
Carabiners, that's flyovercountry.

Speaker 3 (02:04:32):
I'm excited for this year.

Speaker 1 (02:04:33):
I was about to say Lee, I think you're being a
little harsh.

Speaker 2 (02:04:36):
I don't like to watch Tyrese Halliburton play
basketball.

Speaker 3 (02:04:40):
I wanted Hawks to draft Tyrese so bad I don't like
his game.

Speaker 2 (02:04:46):
I just don't like it.
What's that African nigga name?
Siakam Siakam.

Speaker 3 (02:04:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:04:58):
I thought he was going to add something else
after the championship.
He kind of just flatlined.
I mean he flatlined as anall-star, all-star level player,
but he's kind of flatlined.
I don't really like watchinghis game.
Giannis, he just, you know, ranat the basket and pressed
square.
I know he done worked on hismid-range game, but I don't like
to watch Giannis playbasketball.
He's really good and he playshard, but if Dame's not playing

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I don't really want to watchthat.

Speaker 1 (02:05:24):
They got Bobby Portis back right on time.

Speaker 3 (02:05:27):
Big addition.

Speaker 1 (02:05:29):
You said mid.

Speaker 3 (02:05:30):
I said that's a big addition.

Speaker 1 (02:05:32):
Oh, it's not like you said, mid.
I'm like God damn, is BobbyPortis going to have to choke a
bit?
Like no, I like him coming backright at the right time, so
he's got to be kind of freshhere too.
Again, giannis is the bestplayer on the floor.
They don't really have ananswer for him.
They played last year right.

Speaker 3 (02:05:52):
But Giannis didn't play.

Speaker 2 (02:05:53):
Giannis was hurt Right, and that's it.
Dame was hurt.

Speaker 3 (02:05:58):
No, I got swept, they got, swept, they didn't get
swept by the Chiefs Unless Damemissed some games, but Dame lost
every game he played in.
I think it said 0-4.

Speaker 1 (02:06:08):
I looked at it they didn't get swept, though they
won some games.

Speaker 3 (02:06:11):
Look it up.
Look it up, let me.
I looked at it like today,yesterday, because I was like,
let me see what Dame averaged.
And he averaged like 31, 4, and7.
But he said he only played fourgames, unless he missed a game.

Speaker 1 (02:06:26):
They beat them.
It was in six, that's what Ithought.

Speaker 3 (02:06:28):
That's what I was thinking, I'm like man, they
didn't get swept.

Speaker 1 (02:06:31):
They couldn't have got swept.

Speaker 3 (02:06:34):
That's what I was thinking.
That too.
I was thinking that too.
But I think Dame did miss somegames and he did get hurt in
that series.
I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 1 (02:06:41):
Yeah, so pretty much he was just a non-factor.
But you know, without a guylike Giannis out there, I'm not
saying that Dame should betaking over, but I mean that was
pretty much the same song anddance.
I mean I know that they beatHouston that year.
Of course they went to the WestFinals the one year they got
swept by Golden State, but likethat was pretty much been the,

(02:07:01):
that's Blazers basketball.
So with him just on the floor Icould see how that would happen
.
Plus, last year was just one ofthose years for the Pacers.
They were the hot team kind of.
They beat the Knicks, they gave, they got swept by.

Speaker 2 (02:07:14):
They beat the hurt Knicks, they beat the hurt Bucs
and the Celtics said that wastheir toughest series in the
playoffs.

Speaker 1 (02:07:21):
And the Celtics and all those games were close.
If you remember, those gameswere all close.

Speaker 2 (02:07:24):
They had one game that they should Game.

Speaker 1 (02:07:26):
One was the one I think that they should have like
absolutely won.

Speaker 2 (02:07:29):
And Jalen Brown like hit like that three or something
something All right.
How amazing is it that JalenBrown at one point was the
highest paid player in theleague and he still doesn't have
a left hand?
All these coaches when we wasgrowing up hey, you got to work
on your offhand.
You got to work on your offhandor just be five as fuck with

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your strong hand.

Speaker 3 (02:07:55):
Look at Zion.
I ain't seen Zion go right.

Speaker 2 (02:07:58):
Lefties, don't go right man, that's fair.

Speaker 3 (02:08:01):
I'm left-handed.

Speaker 1 (02:08:03):
Lefties, don't go right.
You guys are both left-handedright.

Speaker 3 (02:08:06):
I'm left-handed.

Speaker 2 (02:08:07):
I remember I was hooping one day hey bro, he
going left.
I'm like duh.

Speaker 3 (02:08:12):
Yeah, that's my strong hand.

Speaker 1 (02:08:17):
You, lamar Odom ass niggas.

Speaker 2 (02:08:19):
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

Speaker 1 (02:08:22):
I wasn't calling you him personally.
I'm just talking about when Ilook up and, like Lamar Odom,
would you know, shoot a three orsomething.
You just see that left hand.
I'm like gosh.
Or even D-Fish too.
He's left-handed right.

Speaker 2 (02:08:33):
Yeah, no, fish too.
He's left-handed right.
Yeah, no, no, no, he got thebeats put on him.
Uh, dog.
I saw lamar odom on my 30thbirthday where, outside of
hooters on peach street, I waswalking in hooters and he was
just out there chilling and Iwalked by.
He's 16 as fuck.

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I looked up I was like that'sLO, I ain't speaking to you
nigga.
He was out there looking likehe was looking lost.

Speaker 1 (02:09:04):
He was trying to get a score.

Speaker 3 (02:09:06):
He was on that, you feel me.

Speaker 2 (02:09:08):
I don't know what he was doing.
I'm just saying he was outsideof Hooters by himself, looking
lost.
It wasn't like no black Yukonsuburban came and picked him up
a bend.
Nah, he just looked out therelike I'm just in the city
kicking it.

Speaker 1 (02:09:24):
He's probably waiting on Magic's doors to open, but
look either way, alright, sothat's pretty much the playoff
series here and then, before weget you out of here, Joe, first
of all, thank you for coming on.
I know it was a little lastminute but I knew that you were
the perfect person for this andspecifically coming in to talk

(02:09:46):
about the Hawks and then, ofcourse, basketball playoffs.
So thank you for coming on, butbefore we get you out of here,
we got to get your NBA Finalsprediction who's it going to be
and in how many games?
Who's playing in that game?

Speaker 3 (02:10:06):
I'm going to go.
I think it's just set up for it, man, I'm going to go.
Celtics-lakers, bro, it's setup for it, that's who I think
it's going to be too, though.

Speaker 1 (02:10:18):
Literally, I think it's going to be the Celtics and
the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (02:10:21):
I got Celtics-Lakers.
I think it's going to bedownright broad Seven Celtics, I
think.
Celtics repeat, I wouldn't besurprised if Celtics Honestly
the Celtics that might be thebest-built team I've ever seen,
especially as it comes from astar lineup.

Speaker 2 (02:10:40):
Poorly coached man, so poorly coached, not built
better than the Warriors.

Speaker 1 (02:10:44):
Can we agree in a weird way, in a weird way that
the Celtics are almost theequivalent of the Eagles.
I know that they both just won,but are they not like almost
pinpoint If?
an NBA team was an NFL team andan NFL team was an NBA team.
Those two would be just toocomparable.
All the way around they bothwear green, but I would say we

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all agree that both of theircoaches are not the reason that
they're winning.
They play a certain style ofball.
Their GMs built these teams tobe this way and now everybody's
trying to catch up and replicatethem.

Speaker 2 (02:11:19):
Hey, pete, here's what it is.
How do they pay all theseniggas?
You think about the Celtics?
Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum gottwo of the richest contracts in
NBA history.
Drew is getting a bag he's got100.
Derrick White's got 100.
Derrick Drew is getting a bag,he's got 100.

Speaker 1 (02:11:37):
Derrick White's got 100.

Speaker 2 (02:11:39):
Derrick White's getting 100.
How you paying all these niggasjust like the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (02:11:44):
Peyton.
Pritchard is about to win sixman of the year.
He ain't getting shit.

Speaker 2 (02:11:49):
He ain't getting paid .
He gonna stay.
Somebody's gonna pay him.

Speaker 1 (02:11:59):
They're gonna let Collins' ass get out of there.
Utah will end up paying him ifwill hardy's still there, yeah,
well probably.

Speaker 2 (02:12:04):
But hey, joe, I got something for you.
I don't disagree with lakerceltics based on me watching
basketball, but goofy shithappens and this is a show and
Stephen A makes a lot of moneysaying crazy shit, right?
So I should emulate Stephen Aso I can make money making crazy

(02:12:26):
shit Saying crazy shit, but Iwouldn't be shocked if we had a
LeBron Cavs finals.

Speaker 3 (02:12:34):
I'd be very shocked.
I like where you're going.
I'm be very shocked.
I like where you're going.

Speaker 2 (02:12:38):
I'm not thinking basketball.
I'm not thinking from abasketball point of view.
I understand how the basketballcould possibly make it happen,
because the Celtics don't reallyhave an answer for the two bigs
.
I know they have their two bigsbut they don't fit it.
Just but LeBron versusCleveland and winning finals in

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the game seven in Cleveland togo back to his home in Akron
that he can't sell becausenobody can afford it.

Speaker 1 (02:13:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:13:10):
I personally don't even see Cleveland making the
Eastern Conference Finals.

Speaker 1 (02:13:14):
Really.
So he has the Pacers or theBucs knocking them out, the Bucs
?

Speaker 3 (02:13:19):
Yeah for sure, my biggest thing with the Cavs is
that, like one, I don't like howthey play down the stretch.
I watch a lot of Jeff Teague onpodcasts.
Jeff Teague is like thismirrors our team.
It mirrors the Hawks.
They started chilling towardsthe end of the year, even though

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the Hawks still made theseconference finals.
They were in battles and Ithink that Darius Garland is
going to have to get crazybuckets for them to stay afloat.
Bro, like Todd, jerome playedgreat off the bench.
Like DeAndre, you're going toneed your points from your.
Like your players, likeDonovan's going to have to

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average 30.
Like, I don't think that.
Like, if Darius Garland don'taverage at least 22, I mean I
just don't see them reallygetting to a certain point.
Bro, that's really the biggestthing.
Pacers can beat them.
Pacers can 100% beat them.

Speaker 2 (02:14:22):
Hey, they lucky that Orlando beat the Hawks yesterday
, because if Orlando would havegot to eight, spooks would have
beat them.

Speaker 1 (02:14:31):
Yeah, well, that went seven last year, yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (02:14:34):
Orlando beat them in the regular season.
They did well against them inthe regular season.
You know they did well againstthem in the regular season.
But hey, pete, you got any morebasketball stuff for Joe so we
can hit a little bit of cultureand get out of here, because
we're at 214.

Speaker 1 (02:14:46):
Yeah, no, that's about it Again.
Appreciate you coming on, joe,for sure, we'll definitely have
to invite you back to theprogram, especially probably
around the time we get to thefinals.

Speaker 3 (02:14:56):
I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (02:14:58):
Thanks, man, so much Enjoyed it.
Yeah, Pete just told me youwere coming on and I was like
yeah, I know that nigga cool.

Speaker 3 (02:15:06):
Yeah, let's get it.

Speaker 2 (02:15:07):
Yeah, let's get it All right dog, all right
appreciate it, brother.

Speaker 3 (02:15:11):
Appreciate y'all boys Yep.

Speaker 2 (02:15:17):
Yes, sir, you know I got Kendrick's Scissor two weeks
, is that in?

Speaker 1 (02:15:22):
two weeks.

Speaker 2 (02:15:23):
Yeah, really yeah.
I was looking for my outfit onFashion Nova today.

Speaker 1 (02:15:31):
I don't know why it feels like that just snuck up on
us.
It's two weeks, yeah, but youknow what I just said.
The same thing, because I waslike God, it feels like that
just snuck up on us.
It's two weeks, yeah, it's likethe 27th or 28th, but you know
what and I just said the samething because I was like God the
NFL draft is next week.
Maybe the year just feels likeit's flying by.

Speaker 2 (02:15:46):
Hey, what you think about this.
I'm thinking some black denimyoung nigga pants right Mm-hmm.
Some black denim young niggapants right Mm-hmm.
Black denim little slim fitjacket right Mm-hmm.
Some black and white NikeCortez's and a scissor graphic

(02:16:10):
tee.
Is the scissor graphic tee,white or black.
I haven't made up my mind yet.

Speaker 1 (02:16:18):
Or are you going to get maybe like a gray or
something in there?

Speaker 2 (02:16:20):
No, no, no, I'm going to go black or white.
I thought about just going inthere, all blacked out to you
know, just to pay my respectswhen.

Speaker 1 (02:16:33):
I'm at the elongated funeral.
You're going to come in there.
I got a bone to pick.
That's what Nick's going to bejumping up and down to.

Speaker 2 (02:16:43):
He mad.
I also thought about doingsomething a bit more lively and
wear a bucket hat and just be inthere vibing Shades.
Oh yeah, I don't think I'mgoing to work the day after.
I think I'm going to put insome PTA.

Speaker 1 (02:16:56):
So it's during the week, it's like a Tuesday or
Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (02:16:59):
Monday or Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (02:17:00):
Okay, have you decided who's going to be the
lucky person going with you?
I know obviously you changedplans.
No, I have not.

Speaker 2 (02:17:07):
No, no, no, no.
No plans have been changed.
You know, there are things thatwe talk about privately that
are not for public consumption.

Speaker 1 (02:17:14):
Talk about privately that are not for public
consumption, understood,understood.
Well, we will move along, then,from that.
I like the idea of the fifththough.
Yeah, I do like that I feel likewe should start culture off
with the most culturallyrelevant topic, and to me that

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is the six women that went intospace on Jeff Bezos' aircraft,
including his fiancee, gayleKing, and Katy Perry.
Many people are kind of callingfor their heads, in a sense, of
the emissions that they kind oflet into the air and what that
did, and them coming out andbasically saying it's so

(02:18:01):
empowering.
And then, of course, I sent youthe little tidbit of what Gail
had to say and I'll quote realquick or maybe you can even play
it.

Speaker 2 (02:18:13):
No, I don't want to hear her voice.

Speaker 1 (02:18:15):
Okay, well, I'll quote.
What Blue Origin wants to do istake the waste here and figure
out a way to put it in space tomake our planet cleaner.
Number two have you been?
Have you been?
If you've been and you stillfeel that way after you come
back, please let's have aconversation back.

(02:18:44):
Please let's have aconversation um you know, I
don't, I don't, I'm not, I'm not100.

Speaker 2 (02:18:50):
Uh, sure why she would come out and say something
like that.
Well, because she heard peoplesaying online, even people who
she knows and like friends ofhers.
I think everybody should justkind of shut up.
Who cares?
Rich people do rich stuff andthey contradict themselves.
Poor people do poor stuff andthey contradict themselves.

(02:19:12):
Everybody's a walkingcontradiction.
I just, I just don't care.
I don't care at all.
I wish Gail wouldn't have saidanything, because she did and
she sounds stupid.
Gail, what are you talkingabout?
You know, yeah, he's going todo all these great things Guess

(02:19:35):
what, gail, once he proves thathis rocket can go to space
multiple times and like, don'tget me wrong, I think he should
do so many flights annually tomake sure his shit's working.
You know what I'm saying?
Like you can't just let thatshit sit there, right, but no,

(02:19:59):
and what ends up happening?
Right, they'll probably go upthere because we don't know shit
about space for real.
For real, we just know what thegovernment tells us.
And Gayle King, that's thewhole international space
station shit.
It might be a whole rich niggacommunity up there, for all I
know and I'm not a conspiracytheorist like that but Bezos is

(02:20:21):
just taking.
This nigga is just hopping onthe PJ and going to space.

Speaker 1 (02:20:29):
Yeah, and apparently that was like the.
They've been doing it since2022, I think, or 2023.
And that was like the.
They've been doing it since2022, I think, or 2023.
And that was he got bored in,covid he said who he got bored
during COVID.
Yeah, just started thinkingabout man.
What can I do next?
And he knows that Elon waspretty much doing it too, and

(02:20:53):
you know, those two guys arepretty much the only guys in
competition at this point.

Speaker 2 (02:20:57):
So it's like yeah, one's a lib and one's a fucking
Musk.

Speaker 1 (02:21:08):
And I got a colorful aura.

Speaker 2 (02:21:11):
But no, I just think that's some rich people stuff
and like it gets attention, sowe talk about it, but I don't
really care less.
I don't care about, I don'tcare about Gayle King.

Speaker 1 (02:21:25):
Yeah, or Katy Perry.

Speaker 2 (02:21:27):
Bro, I'm not.
What's her last hit?

Speaker 1 (02:21:32):
I don't remember, I just remember.

Speaker 2 (02:21:35):
She's an Ole Miss fan .
You said who she's an Ole Missfan.
You said who she's an Ole Missfan.

Speaker 1 (02:21:42):
Oh yeah, she was on College Game Day that one time
when.

Speaker 2 (02:21:45):
Chad Kelly beat Saban .

Speaker 1 (02:21:47):
Yeah, the only thing.
That great album CaliforniaGirls or Teenage Dream, one of
the best pop albums ever in myopinion.
It was a hit.
My senior year, that album wasgreat.
She's got like nothing but hitson that album.
But, aside from that, notreally a relevant person.
I mean, I'm sure she still ishuge.

(02:22:09):
I think Roar might be the lasttrack I can remember, and she
didn't do our Super Bowl.
Lady Gaga did our Super Bowlright.

Speaker 2 (02:22:18):
No, it was like the white guy.

Speaker 1 (02:22:21):
No, not in Atlanta the Falcons Super Bowl.
I don't remember.
Yeah, you were just hammeredbecause we were up 21-3, right.

Speaker 2 (02:22:30):
No, I actually wasn't that hammered.
I was just riding a high andnot paying attention to a Super
Bowl halftime show before Jay-Zgot to Ox Court.
Jay wasn't on Ox yet I know I'msaying not paying attention to
a halftime show.

Speaker 1 (02:22:46):
Oh, before Intel took over Gotcha.

Speaker 2 (02:22:49):
I'll tell you dog I've never been a.
Let me stop what I'm doing tomake sure I watch the Super Bowl
halftime show.
That used to be a time for meto eat, except for this year.
You did it this year though.
Well, since Hoveth has had theHawks, yeah, I watch the Super
Bowl halftime show.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,hell, yeah, what else man?

(02:23:13):
Real quick because I ain't gotmuch.
Here's my struggle dog Betweendoing a Monday-Wednesday show.
Obviously there's going to becrossover in some topics.
I like trying not to have toomuch crossover for my own brain,
even though there are sometopics that you and I will talk

(02:23:33):
about totally differently thanon that show, Different
audiences, all that shit.
But whatever, Steve is runningfor president you know the other
show.
They don't let me call himSteve, they like bro.
His name is Stephen A Smith,Steve Smith, Stephen Smith, Go
by Stephen A Stop disrespect,Whatever.

(02:23:53):
But yeah, Main charactersyndrome.

Speaker 1 (02:24:00):
Main character syndrome.
Yeah.
That's 100% what that is.

Speaker 2 (02:24:05):
And I think main character syndrome is very
relevant to this conversation,not to this conversation, to our
lives.
Yes, because it's hard whenyou're the main character in
your story and then somebodytries to, or somebody tries to

(02:24:28):
take the leading role, likewhile you're recording, hey,
we've already casted.
You've been casted for acertain role.
You are a supporting member ofthe cast of this show, of this
movie.
Now your movie Totallydifferent.
You're the main character.

(02:24:49):
I don't want to take over yourmovie, but you don't get to be
the main character in your movieand my movie.
And far too often people thinkthat they should be everyone's
main character, when they shouldonly be their own.
Or those who allow them to bethe main character, like, say,
steve Smith of ESPN right, theyallow him to kind of be the main

(02:25:11):
character, even though there'ssome other, whatever.
Yeah even though there's someother whatever.
Yeah, but he thinks becausehe's been the main character in
his time slot and he's the he'sthe guy espn, who gets the
numbers and this and that hegets talked about the most he
thinks he should be the maincharacter for america and a tlc,

(02:25:33):
tlc song.
That just really sits with methat I used to not even
understand the words when I wasa kid, because you know how you
be hearing songs wrong whenyou're young.

Speaker 1 (02:25:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:25:43):
But don't go chasing waterfalls.
Stick to the rivers and lakesthat you're used to.
And for me, that doesn't meandon't try to be the best version
of yourself.
It means be the best version ofyourself.
It means be the best version ofyourself.
Don't try to be the bestversion of something else that
you're not.
And that's what happens withthese people who want to be main

(02:26:07):
characters like yo.
Batman, superman, flash, greenLantern all these niggas get
movies.
But when the Avengers cometogether, all these niggas get
movies.
But when the Avengers cometogether, when these niggas come
together you know I'm mixingthese universes up because I
ain't no fucking nerd, I'm asports guy yeah, justice League,

(02:26:27):
it's a Batman and Supermanmovie when the Justice League
get together.
It's Superman running this.
It's Superman and Batman.
They ain't honcho, you knowwhat I'm saying, superman,
because he, he actually thefinest nigga.
It's Superman running this.
It's Superman and Batman.
They ain't honcho, you knowwhat I'm saying, superman,
because he actually defies niggaWith powers.

Speaker 1 (02:26:42):
With actual powers.
Bruce is just rich.

Speaker 2 (02:26:46):
Yeah, bruce is just.
Bruce is your typical rich guywith some trauma.

Speaker 1 (02:26:52):
Bruce is Iron man to Superman's Captain America.

Speaker 2 (02:26:57):
Yes, because you know , bruce, bruce, everything he
ever needed was there, but hisparents died, you know, when he
was young.
So, bro, this nigga's justlooking for purpose.
His origin story, yeah, yeah,but I said a lot to just you

(02:27:18):
know.
Talk about how main charactersyndrome can affect you in your
life.
Uh, probably, pete.
Have you dealt with maincharacter syndrome in a way that
made you uncomfortable?

Speaker 1 (02:27:27):
I have been around, uh, people, yeah, that have had
main character syndrome thatwould you know, had main
character syndrome that wouldyou know whether that be try to
come into my life or I see ithappening to somebody else.
I've definitely got to see it,you know.

(02:27:48):
And then there are some peopletheir main character syndrome
can be so bad to where they willtry and tie you into their
story because they want you tobe dragged into it like they're
the protagonist and then you canbecome the antagonist, right,
because there always has to bethat for the most part no,
there's no such thing as anon-bad guy in a movie, right,

(02:28:12):
there's always somebody that'sthe, the opposition, or the uh,
the anti, them, right.
And so there has to be something, because if not, nobody's gonna
watch it.
Nobody wants to see a bunch ofpeople not face any type of
adversity, because that's notreal unless you're rich as fuck.
Um, then, even then again, likewe just said with batman, they

(02:28:36):
still set that up to where therewas something.
Right, he didn't have hisparents and it's just like he
could have everything in theworld, but he never got that.
So they still set it up towhere he's equally yoked from a
standpoint of he's not perfect,he's a man, you know there's
something else there and peoplewill try and drag that into it
as opposed to just letting thestory write itself.
They have to create thatnarrative so that they can

(02:29:00):
always be the protagonist andnever the antagonist.
Even though we all have, at somepoint in our lives, been the
antagonist, whether that be tosomebody else's life or even in
our own life we know that we arethe antagonist in this
situation.

Speaker 2 (02:29:15):
Right, but you know, you know what you know.
The best cros antagonist inthis situation.
Right, but you know.
You know what you know the bestcrossovers in tv what's that?

Speaker 1 (02:29:21):
were the spinoffs yeah, I think we're just good
where you have two separateentities that cross paths.

Speaker 2 (02:29:39):
They create the relationship and they're tied
together for pretty much forever, right To some degree.
But they become their ownseparate shows with their own
separate stories, with their ownseparate stories, with their
own separate characters.

(02:29:59):
And then when they do the latercrossovers, it makes a lot more
sense, right?
And that kind of takes me toAll in the Family and the
Jeffersons.
That's some of the bestcrossover TV ever.
But what I don't want to watchwhen I'm watching All in the

(02:30:21):
Family or the Jeffersons is thecrossover episode every fucking
week.
But some Archie Bunker andGeorge Jefferson together
Amazing TV.
You talk about a bigoted whiteman who ain't got much and a

(02:30:43):
rich nigga who like to pop hisshit going back and forth
Amazing TV.
But you don't get to appreciateArchie and the other characters
in All in the Family if youdon't watch All in the Family.
You don't get to appreciateGeorge Jefferson and the other
characters if you don't watchthe Jeffersons.

(02:31:07):
And when it comes tointerlocking lives with people,
hey, my nigga, I'm the maincharacter of this show.
Nigga, I'm George Jefferson.
You're not Weezy, you're ArchieBunker, you got your own shit
and we rock with each other andwe're tied together and our

(02:31:30):
stories will cross paths.
They're interwoven but they'restill our own separate stories
and, if you want to think aboutit from a relationship point of
view, especially intimaterelationships.
Right, people be losing whothey are in their relationship,
trying to build like what's theBoston movie?

(02:31:54):
It's flipping my mind.
You know the the Boston movie.
It's flipping my mind.
You know the good Boston moviethat they all wrote together.
That took forever for them toget done.

Speaker 1 (02:32:05):
Good Will Hunting yes .

Speaker 2 (02:32:07):
Good Will Hunting, Bro.
Everybody ain't Good WillHunting.
Everybody ain't like the Oceansmovies.
If you want to go to niggaclassics, dog, everybody ain't
life Will Hunting.
Everybody ain't like the Oceansmovies.
If you want to go to niggaclassics, dog, everybody ain't
life.

Speaker 1 (02:32:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:32:21):
Some nights Now, some of us, some of us are truly
Eddie Murphy and Richard Pryor,right Great in their own right,
Again tied together.
It's dope when they link upevery now and then.

Speaker 1 (02:32:40):
But separate stories ultimately.

Speaker 2 (02:32:42):
Bingo.
Yeah, that probably goesagainst that whole, like when
you get married, that unitycandle thing.
But like at the rate thatmarriages work in this country,
I like not losing yourself in arelationship, and that goes both
ways.
Like neither one of you loseyourself because what brought
you together was your individualstory arcs, not this combined

(02:33:06):
story arc that you're buildingand trying to manipulate to get
somebody to be somebody thatthey may not necessarily be to
appease you.
And again, this goes both ways.
And no nigga, we fuck with eachother because of how we moved
independently.
Right, let's move together.

(02:33:30):
There's collaboration, of course, let's collaborate, but let's
not be codependent.

Speaker 1 (02:33:33):
Yeah, you're not.
Look, look at it from a whichwe got WrestleMania coming up
this weekend.
Look at it from a wrestlingstandpoint.
Shawn Michaels and Triple Hwere their own separate
characters.
Then they became DX, Arguably,you know, outside of maybe the

(02:33:56):
NWO, certainly the greatestfaction tag team of all time.

Speaker 2 (02:34:06):
I think it's the greatest because of the origin,
Like DX was built because of thesquad, which was Kevin Nash,
Triple H and Shawn Michaels.

Speaker 1 (02:34:17):
Right, which really is both of them it's the NWO and
DX.

Speaker 2 (02:34:18):
But they were legit boys and then eventually it made
sense, especially after Nashleft to make DX an in-the-ring
thing, bro, these niggas aredrunk in every city, in every
strip club together.

Speaker 1 (02:34:36):
Doing cocaine.

Speaker 2 (02:34:38):
I'm not going to no they said that they did.

Speaker 1 (02:34:41):
They said that that's what they were doing.

Speaker 2 (02:34:43):
At least I tell you what.

Speaker 1 (02:34:44):
Shawn Michaels admitted to it, x-pac admitted
to it.
That's what they were doing.
That's okay, because that'swhat 90s and 80s wrestling was.
It's guys taking roids, bangingchicks banging chicks drinking,
getting into bar fights, doingcoke taking you know like
abusing fucking morphine andshit like that.

Speaker 2 (02:35:03):
Was wrestling, though back you know the wrestlers
said they, you, they preferredgoing to the strip club because
not because of the ass andtitties, but it was because they
wanted to chill out somewhere,listen to music and have a drink
, and in the strip club peopledidn't bother them in the same
way they would like a dive bar.

Speaker 1 (02:35:22):
Yeah, yeah, well, because, think about it, it's
everybody's going in there forthe same thing A dive bar.
Not that everybody's not goingthere to do the same thing, but
people go out to drink to talkto people.
If you go to a strip club,you're not really not going
there to do the same thing, butpeople go out to drink to talk
to people.
If you go to a strip club,you're not really going in there
to talk to other men.

Speaker 2 (02:35:40):
You're there for the ass, the drinks, the music and
you know or business, or youmight be in there for other men,
but it's just your guys yeah ina cool environment, right like
if I lived in the city.
I could see us hitting cheetahson a random weekday at like 8.

Speaker 1 (02:36:02):
I'd love to do it for lunch.
I want to go during daytime.
I don't even want to go atnight when it's like wow.

Speaker 2 (02:36:09):
I want to go in there and get something to eat.
I don't have lunch flexibilitylike that.

Speaker 1 (02:36:13):
If I did, but I'm just saying let's say you had a
work-from-home day, you got amajority of your work done, or
you're not necessarily beingmonitored.
You can step out for a two-hourlunch, right, Like something
like that.

Speaker 2 (02:36:32):
Fair, but yeah, we got.
By the way, the Mavericks arefucking fair, but yeah we got.

Speaker 1 (02:36:37):
By the way, the Mavericks are fucking drilling
the Kings, which I told you too.
By the way, I said I thinkDallas is going to beat them,
but then I also thought Dallaswould beat Memphis.
Now, I'm not going to lieMemphis looked like the Memphis
that they had been previouslylast night, but I told you, I

(02:36:57):
like Dallas to beat Memphis too.
I think Anthony Davis is thebest player on the floor.

Speaker 2 (02:37:03):
Well, yeah, I think Anthony Davis is kind of in that
Trey Young conversation ofseverely underrated players.

Speaker 1 (02:37:13):
Well, he's on the NBA 75 team, though, I mean, but in
the way that he's discussedtoday, nobody has ever said that
he was the best player in theNBA.

Speaker 2 (02:37:24):
No, but he's never been the best player in the NBA,
because when he played his bestbasketball, lebron was still in
his extended prime, and StephCurry, and then Giannis is
coming, paul and then Giannis iscoming, Paul Jokic.
And Jokic, and then AD goes tothe Lakers, to where he's not
going to consistently put up thenumbers to compete with these

(02:37:46):
guys.

Speaker 1 (02:37:46):
Well, and he plays with LeBron, who is still in his
prime, so he's going to alwaysbe second fiddle to that.

Speaker 2 (02:37:52):
Yeah, lebron's 24-8-8,.
By the way, his first season in20 seasons without averaging 25
.
Hell of a run, says his rookieyear, and he was averaging 25
until Luka got there.

Speaker 1 (02:38:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:38:05):
And then Austin Reeves' shit went up, Paul Whoa,
that was insane.

Speaker 1 (02:38:08):
That is insane.
That's a yeah.
We can make a highlight reelout of this.

Speaker 2 (02:38:17):
Yeah, no, I've said some crazy shit on the spot.
Yeah, anything else you want totalk about?

Speaker 1 (02:38:24):
I think that's about it.
I was hoping there was going tobe a basketball game I get to
watch, but with the Kings down20, I don't.

Speaker 2 (02:38:31):
I'm sorry they're down 23.

Speaker 1 (02:38:32):
It's 71 to 48, with 30 seconds left in the first
half.

Speaker 2 (02:38:39):
You said 71 in the first half.

Speaker 1 (02:38:41):
It's 71-48.

Speaker 2 (02:38:45):
Bro, I told you.
I told you I'm pro-life andthat's why I'm not watching
basketball tonight.
Do not say what you said inpre-credits.

Speaker 1 (02:38:53):
I'm not.
I'm not.
What are the Kings going to doreal quick, before we get out of
here, because this is theirsecond year in the play-in?
They moved Levine.
No, they got Levine, they movedFox.
What do you do?
I mean they paid DeMar.
I mean there's no way you canrun this team back.

Speaker 2 (02:39:10):
So what do they do?
I mean, why not?
There's nothing else?
No, bro, there's nothing elseto do in Sacramento, just run it
back, Make money.

Speaker 1 (02:39:19):
You going to let Doug Christie be the coach again?
Sure, and just fire him a yearlater?
I mean Sure, you can't, becausehere's the worst part you can't
go get Mike Malone,unfortunately, so that's not
going to work.
You can't fill your headcoaching job that way to the
work.
You can't fill your headcoaching job that way Taylor
Jenkins.
Yeah, he's going to get someinterest.

(02:39:39):
I wouldn't be surprised theyprobably won't fire Willie Green
.
But if Joe Dumars decides tomove on from Willie Green, Mike
Malone would be a nice fit downthere.

Speaker 2 (02:39:48):
Willie Green's gone.
I don't think Mike Malone goesthere.
I think Mike Malone might sitout and do TV for a year.
No, just chill and pick hisright job.
Hey, you know, bud's gettingpaid by like two teams for the
next two years, right.

Speaker 1 (02:40:03):
Hey, what did we say?
Greatest job in sports is afire coach.
And you know, that was actuallywhat I did want to do when I
brought up the Mount Rushmore.
I said who are the MountRushmores?
And we can do this real quick.
The Mount Rushmore of.
I said who are the MountRushmores and we can do this
real quick.
The Mount Rushmore of coachesthat get paid to not coach.
Obviously, Bud's got to be onthere now.
Monty, you put Monty on thereon the Mount Rushmore.

(02:40:25):
I'm talking the poster child ofthis stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:40:28):
Bro, he got the highest coaching contract in NBA
history and got fired oneseason later.

Speaker 1 (02:40:34):
I'm going to go Bud because he's dipping in two
pockets.

Speaker 2 (02:40:38):
I think Monty's still dipping in two pockets too.
I think he's still getting somePhoenix money.

Speaker 1 (02:40:42):
Charlie Weiss, obviously, because he's got to
be kind of the first guy to kindof do it Jimbo.
That's who I was reallythinking Jimbo hit the powerball
without ever picking numbers.
Say again I Jimbo hit thePowerball without ever picking
numbers.
Say again I said Jimbo hit thePowerball without ever having to

(02:41:02):
pick numbers.

Speaker 2 (02:41:04):
That nigga, jimbo said hey, let me get a Powerball
ticket.
What number do you want?
He was like I don't want anynumbers.
But look, this is going to cashin the next five years.
Okay, this is going to cash inthe next five years.
Okay, it's going to cash.
And they're like bro, what?
Just let me here's five bucks,let me get my ticket.

(02:41:28):
It's going to cash, and I knowlottery tickets don't work like
that.
You have to keep getting newones.
But no, jimbo has the goldenticket.
And then he came back in thatgas station and he looked at it
like see my friend.

Speaker 1 (02:41:47):
Right, they looked at him like he was a fucking
wizard.
But yeah, jimbo, charlie Weiss,bud now, and Iiss Bud now.
And I mean, if you want to putMonty, I guess that's fine.
If he got the highest, I meanhe did get fired after one year
from Detroit.
You can do him or you can doMatt Rule.
I mean, fuck Frank Reich.

(02:42:11):
Hey, frank is coaching atStanford this year and he's
doing it only for one year andthey set this up purposely that
way, because obviously he didn'twant the Colts.
Hell, he's getting paid by theColts and the Panthers too, but
the Panthers' bag is bigger,obviously.
Think about it.
The Panthers are paying, justlike how Ishmael is about to be
paying three guys, no, four,four guys once they hire whoever

(02:42:35):
they hire.
The Panthers are almost in thesame fucking bracket.
I mean, he's paying out bigmoney to Matt Rule and Frank
Wright and Canals.
Hey, hell, jacksonville, I'msure Doug is still getting paid,
herb is still getting paid.
Herb might be done now?

Speaker 2 (02:42:55):
How much is he doing now?
I think Trevor's going intoyear six, so that would put Herb
at year five.
That would put Herb just.

Speaker 1 (02:43:05):
Is he Maybe?

Speaker 2 (02:43:10):
Justin Fields, three years in Chicago.
They didn't pick up his fourthyear option.

Speaker 1 (02:43:14):
One year in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (02:43:15):
It's year five.
I think he got one more year.
Damn, you made me forget.
Oh, John Gruden, he got thesecond best canceled moment ever
.
Donald Sterling is number onebeing forced to sell your team

(02:43:37):
for a record price for a recordprice at at more than what it
was valued for, and then get alot of that cash or getting the
whole thing cash.
Now he had to break it down.
He had to bust it down with hiswife or about to be ex-wife,
you know.
No, no, he had, because theywere, they were joint.
You, you know, had to bust itdown but still to get like 2.1

(02:43:57):
cash in hand.
Yo, pete, if you get 2.1 billcash in hand, what are you doing
?

Speaker 1 (02:44:11):
I'd be just like Donald sir you never see me
again.

Speaker 2 (02:44:14):
It's like Donald Sir, you'll never see me again, bro,
if I got two, if I got two,bill, I'm giving, like all my
close friends, just a meal offthe top, just because I'm like I
have a million millions dog.

Speaker 1 (02:44:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:44:30):
Bro here, and this is just because I fuck with you.

Speaker 1 (02:44:34):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:44:34):
Now, if you come at me with some investing type shit
, that's a totally differentconversation.

Speaker 1 (02:44:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:44:40):
And I won't even like really try to pinch you for a
crazy heavy percentage, becauseI would want you to.
I'm a billionaire, well, but Ialso want you to get super
filthy rich like this, so we cando super filthy rich shit
together.
Yeah, Not be sheiks or anythingbut no, no, no, no, no, no.
I just mean, if it's like heytrying to take a yacht and just

(02:45:01):
go to fucking somewhere wherethe scallywags are like I'm
talking about the expensive oneswe don't even got to go to like
dr or fucking columbia yeah,well, at that point you start
sitting up talking.

Speaker 1 (02:45:16):
Obviously it's hypothetical, because if you got
it from buying it, from owningan nba team but at that point
you start thinking about man,what type of team y'all want to
buy?
Yeah, like nigga, this is ourday-to-day life.

Speaker 2 (02:45:28):
Like we run like.
This becomes one of thosethings where you start, hey, hey
, I need to get in touch withthat BET nigga.
I need to get in touch withthat nigga who gave out all that
money at Morehouse.

Speaker 1 (02:45:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:45:45):
Hit up Braun.
We need Hove involved, but wedon't want Hove's money.

Speaker 1 (02:45:52):
You want a contract Hove, like how the NFL does it.

Speaker 2 (02:45:58):
But we got to come up with enough cash.
So Arthur sells outright.
Well you know, he just wantedto go to the foundation anyways.

Speaker 1 (02:46:12):
Huh, he wanted to just go to the foundation
anyways.

Speaker 2 (02:46:16):
That's fine, put it in the foundation anyways.
That's fine.
Put it in the foundation soit's not getting taxed the same
way and you can do what you wantto do.
But look here, arthur, I needyou.
And rich mckay, your niggas got48 hours.
Say your goodbyes, get thecleaning crew to come clean your
shit up.
Rich, you got six rich.

Speaker 1 (02:46:41):
I don't want you to be here when the keys get handed
over.

Speaker 2 (02:46:44):
Look here, arthur, you're good here, as long as
your key access works and we'rereplacing everything.
We're not.
We're not changing the codes.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We're replacing everything.

Speaker 1 (02:46:58):
We'll keep your ring of honor, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (02:47:02):
Yeah, and you're welcome to come back after
checking in with me for the nextfive years.
Anything significant.
You're there, you want a box.
You can't keep your box because, nigga, that's the owner's box,
it's mine, but you can get abox.
You can't keep your box because, nigga, that's the owner's box,
it's mine, but you can get abox.
You can't come down on thefield, no more, unless you pay

(02:47:23):
for it.
Now you got to pay and you gotto stay behind the shits too.
I'm saying you got to go to theclub, arthur, you can't just be
no, but yeah, yeah, no, butyeah, yeah.
Nah, if I got 2 billion handedover to me, I would immediately
try to get with a group ofpeople to purchase a sports

(02:47:45):
franchise, because we gonnaprint money hand over fist and
if it ever gets weird out here,we still collected so much
fucking cash from the thing thatwe're good, yeah, and I'm with
you obviously I'll breakeverybody off from the thing
that we're good, yeah, and I'mwith you.

Speaker 1 (02:47:57):
Obviously I'll break everybody off.
No shit on that.
You're billing here.
That's fucking easy, hell manif I made a hundred million
dollars, I'd break niggas off.

Speaker 2 (02:48:05):
Like, you know what I mean.
A hundred million.
I'm handing out a few 50,000, ahundred thousand dollars, Like.

Speaker 1 (02:48:17):
Hey, easy, yeah, bro, here man, do what you want,
have some fun.
Hey d, if you want to work withme, man let's.
We got to really put some shittogether, yeah, but chief of
staff, all that shit, hell, yeah, bro, come on like, come on hey
, baby moms ant ant-man stylehuh no, not, I mean I about I'm
talking about this, ain't evenchild support.
Yeah just here like thank youfor being the mother of my child

(02:48:41):
.

Speaker 2 (02:48:41):
Yeah this is baby moms.
Here is your bread, this isyours.
You ain't got to give a kidshit out of this bread.
But don't ever ask me for shitagain.
I might give you something,because you know how we rocking

(02:49:02):
Mother, first child, only childyou good, but if we get to two,
point right.
Here's your 20 piece.
If you need anything else fromme, again you're losing custody.
Yeah, imagine giving your babymoms and not specifically your

(02:49:26):
baby moms, because we areactually niggas with real deal
baby moms and so we don't wantto make it personal to them.
Yeah, but just with the loveyou have, we have for our
children.
Right, we hand over 20 mil andshorty runs through that shit in
like three years.

Speaker 1 (02:49:46):
I would hope that if they, if it got ran through in
three years that you bought shitthat's worth shit that you can
sell, that you can liquid, cause, even as, even as a billionaire
I'm not just gonna, becausethen you just turn into, then it
looks like you're thebillionaire, yeah, like that's
not what this is.
20 million is enough to liveoff the rest of your life and if
you're smart you'll more thandouble it quickly.

Speaker 2 (02:50:08):
Like you'll be able to double that quick bro, you
just turn that shit over tosomebody who does this and you
don't care if their marginsaren't what you want, because
you don't have to worry aboutmoney ever again.
But, like dog, if I give you$20 million and you run through
that shit in three or five years, bro, I gotta take you to court

(02:50:28):
for custody because you'reobviously being too
irresponsible for me.

Speaker 1 (02:50:32):
Yeah you're out of control.

Speaker 2 (02:50:33):
I don't need my kid in that environment.

Speaker 1 (02:50:37):
Yeah, you're out of control.

Speaker 2 (02:50:40):
You're overpaying for nannies.
What are we doing here?

Speaker 1 (02:50:43):
Hell, you're not even paying for nannies.
At that point, though, you'redoing something else You're
breaking motherfuckers off andkeep doing it.

Speaker 2 (02:50:55):
You done broke off half your family and that new
nigga.

Speaker 1 (02:50:59):
Right, he gone, hey, and that's your dumbass fault at
that point.

Speaker 2 (02:51:05):
And that nigga up he done, took the money, flipped it
all types of illegal ways andhe killing shit.

Speaker 1 (02:51:13):
Yeah, man.

Speaker 2 (02:51:14):
I gotta sit here and look at him spending my money
because of your dumb ass.
And again, this is not realabout our real baby mamas.

Speaker 1 (02:51:22):
Okay, yeah, of course , of course, and again, maybe
donald sterling.
Technically see, I was thinkingmore coaches, but yeah, he
would be on it.

Speaker 2 (02:51:29):
He's the biggest winner of all well, and then
gruden's number two, becausethey didn't, you know.
I don't know if he got his foolhunted, but he got bought out
at a very high price.

Speaker 1 (02:51:44):
Well, yeah, because they settled right the lawsuit,
even the lawsuit, and I don'tknow if the lawsuit had anything
to do with it.
100% I know that because Iguess they fired him for cause
and it caused him to lose theguarantee.
Whatever that clause was Okay,but he might have got more than
what the contract was worth too.
Because they might have beenable to say think about it.
He could claim punitive damages, not just because this was what

(02:52:08):
I was going to make in mycontract.
But now you fucked up that,even if I didn't make it through
my contract, futureopportunities for me and this is
how much I've made doing this,so this is how much I should be
getting.
I might not ever coach again.
What the fuck am I supposed todo?

Speaker 2 (02:52:23):
And I can't go back to ESPN.

Speaker 1 (02:52:26):
I can't go back to major.

Speaker 2 (02:52:28):
I can't do major TV and my actions that got me fired
happened before I got hired.

Speaker 1 (02:52:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:52:37):
It's been three hours , man.
I would like to be in bedbefore 12th.

Speaker 1 (02:52:44):
You got it.

Speaker 2 (02:52:45):
You got it.
I enjoyed it.
I'm inside this weekend, nevermind, I was going to say what
you got going on this weekend,but now I'm inside this weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:52:54):
I don't have the baby , so hell, maybe I can trek up
there.

Speaker 2 (02:52:58):
I still haven't been to the house, so yeah, man, I
mean, come on, there's a niceguest room here, we've got space
.
I'll call Big Trev and we canbring the guns out this weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:53:09):
All right here.
Hell yeah, I'll.
Sunday is Easter, yeah and 420.
Interesting holidays toco-mingle.

Speaker 2 (02:53:27):
You know I'm more into Easter service and Easter
dinner.

Speaker 1 (02:53:30):
I don't need grass in my Easter basket.
You're a very honorable man,Lee.

Speaker 2 (02:53:35):
You know, I served this country honorably for 10
years and we thank you for yourservice True.
American, we thank you for yourtax dollars.
Couldn't do it without them.

Speaker 1 (02:53:44):
Yeah Well, now we're going to have tariffs to replace
that, apparently.
Yeah well.

Speaker 2 (02:53:49):
I'm happy we didn't get into that.
But hey, good show dog, I'llget this shit uploaded and I'll
holler at you, okay.

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