September 15, 2023 • 59 mins
Ready to huddle up and tackle the world of sports and life lessons? We'll sweep you off your feet as we kick off with a vivid analogy, intertwining a real-life flooding situation at Clark Atlanta University and those classic childhood days of sibling mischief. Remember those times when we'd clean our rooms, anticipating stern parental inspections. We'll dig deep into how such experiences align with the daily precautions we take as adults.
We'll then shift gears and dive into the realm of sports. From analyzing Aaron Rodgers' injury to contemplating Colin Kaepernick's NFL relevance, we're leaving no stone unturned. We'll ponder over Rodgers' cryptic Instagram post and explore what it means for his career. And Kaepernick? We're going to debate if his return to the league is a far-fetched dream or a possibility we're overlooking. We'll also dissect Josh Allen's much-criticized Thursday Night performance and its impact on his status as the highest-paid quarterback.
Our final act brings us to the evolution of Thursday Night Football and its uncanny comparison to those late-night McDonald's orders. We're not just talking about quality, but the ebbs and flows, the hits and misses. We'll delve into the drastic changes that Thursday Night Football has undergone and debate if it has lived up to its hype or lost its sheen. This episode is a rollercoaster of sports analysis, personal tales, and a good dose of nostalgia. So, grab your earbuds, buckle in, and let's begin this incredible journey.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hi, I want to hear from you.
How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm doing fantastic.
I got a lot of flooding goingon here in Atlanta, but outside
of that all as well, I hope youall are safe out there.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
You know some fortunate.
I saw what happened onnorthside Hell, I saw your
parking lot and I saw whathappened to Clark, atlanta, man.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I mean, how much worse can it get?
And the crazy thing is, if I'mnot mistaken, mistake in Clark
they were complaining aboutmaybe not we did, I mean, nobody
foresees that comment but theywere complaining about living
conditions in general at Clark.
Well, they're bad now.
It was there and I think Howarddid it too.
There are a couple of ACC'sthat did it and they but I know
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that Clark was one of them too,and you know that really bad.
Look on the AUC.
Well, obviously not the AUC,but Clark.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Well, it's a bad look on the AUC because it's being
packaged at Lennie.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
University Center.
Yeah, but we don't.
Morehouse College doesn't haveanything to do with that.
We don't.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
But um, yeah, man, uh hate to see it, uh shit.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
You want to know.
You want to know what it doesto Morehouse and Spelman.
It reminds me of when I was akid man me, uh, justice, and my
brother Tarris.
We're all two years apart inour rooms.
We're all next to each other.
Let's say that justice wasabout to get his ass beat by my
mom.
He's about to get a whipping.
See, you know what me andTarris are doing?
I'm going into my bathroom, I'mcleaning up my dirty clothes.
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I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm trying toget my shit together before she
gets to me.
And essentially that would bewhat would be kind of maybe what
happens with the rest of theAUC, something like this with
Clark.
It makes them have to go in andsay oh no, we'll see, we're not
going to have these problems,even though we don't have these
problems.
These are the measures we'reabout to put in place to where
something like this neverhappens again.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Bro, let me tell you what that reminds me of my
senior year of high school.
I watched my little cousinshout out to big Austin.
He watched the show His mom hadto get up at like super, super
early and he was in elementaryschool, so like I would be there
to make sure he woke up and allof that stuff Right, so
practically live there.
(02:16):
Uh, austin was getting introuble one day and his mother
is not one who gets angry toooften.
She's real cool, real chill,but when she gets angry it's
kind of scared, so he's gettingyelled at.
I'm in a room like, oh shit, Iget scared.
(02:36):
18 years old, I haven't doneanything wrong.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Wait, how old is Austin at the time?
Fifth?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
grade.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Okay, like 12.
Okay, 11, something like that.
But you're seeing, your ass isgetting scared.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, cause I don't.
That's the only second time Isee my onion Get mad.
Yeah, and the other in thefirst time was that his older
brother.
And then I just casually leftthe house.
I said, ah, it's time for me togo Right.
But it's like, hold on, let mehave I done all my homework yet.
Let me just plug my headphonesin and watch this movie.
I don't want to be of nodisturbance.
(03:13):
I don't want to give her areason to ask me a question.
I answer it wrong.
I'm not bro, I'm out of theknow.
I'm good, yeah, but you know,um, it's funny because I imagine
you having brothers.
When one of your brothersdecides to clean up his room
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which I doubt that most dudes dogrowing up on their own, just
on their own volition, but ithappens from time to time you
probably start cleaning up.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Well, if you hear somebody getting their ass beat
because they're not cleaning up,we've talked to start talking
about.
Look, this is the era that I'min, you start talking about.
Um, one of the big things thatwe used to do as kids was take
sodas and bring them up to ourroom.
So you've got soda cans or cupsor whatever like sitting inside
.
Now imagine just constantlyleaving it up there, and as a
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kid too, for the most part, forone, you're not supposed to be
doing eating and drinking forthe kitchen.
Let's start there.
But number two, you know, notonly is it that, but there's
this potential amp problem,because you're probably not
finished in the soda and you'releaving sugar there and you're
not taking it down in themorning.
You have a clean house.
If you leave shit out, it don'tmatter.
(04:26):
These animals are going to beable to smell it.
I mean rats, like everything,can.
They can pick up the setbetween these walls.
You know, roaches, whatever itis, can pick up these sets.
I mean, you've seen men inblack, right, edgar?
What did he say when he wentinto that house?
He said sugar.
So it's the same thing.
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So, point being, if that's whatI hear going on in there, I'm
about to get my shit together.
That's what I'm going to do.
I'm going to get my shittogether.
I'm not worried about reallywhat's going on in there.
I'm worried about I know thatshe's about to make a round.
She's going to come in herenext because now something has
(05:07):
been, something has happened tomake it to where this has got
her attention.
My room is right here.
We should be in justice sharethe same bathroom.
So I need to hurry up and getmy dirty clothes in a hamper and
my bed needs to be made.
My wrestling toys need to beput up like my video game.
Shit needs to not be all overthe place, like my clothes need
(05:30):
to be hung up, my clean clotheslike they need to be hung up,
everything needs to be folded.
Let me hurry up and get thisdone before she gets in here
while, because I could hear himscreaming.
So let me hurry the fuck upbecause I don't want to be
screaming.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Man, that's funny.
So we got a great show fory'all today, man, we're going to
talk week one NFL.
We're going to talk somecollege football.
We might get to a little bit ofbasketball, because we actually
have some real basketball news.
I think Adam Silver was beingvery strategic and putting this
stuff out because he wanted toensure that his league was
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getting some attention.
So I'm going to open up theshow talking about the
importance of the preseason.
Man, if you look at last week,the four quarterbacks who got
paid big contracts, it's kind ofsucked, you know.
Jalen Hertz, joe Burrow, danielJones, margex Say again, lamar
(06:36):
Jackson yeah, or good.
And one thing the four of themhad is they didn't play in the
preseason.
And as we're getting quoteunquote smarter in sports, I
also think we're losing sight ofwhat makes you, of what makes
you better.
Well, and we're seeing in theNBA, we're focusing so much on
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rest and training that we'reforgetting about playing the
game.
The point of the preseason isto get the players out there,
get their feet wet, get used tolive hits under a whistle in
front of a crowd, to work ontiming, to work through nerves.
(07:18):
Yeah, it's to figure out who'sgood and who's not, who you're
going to cut, who you're goingto keep.
But a lot of that's done inpractice, right.
But now we've gotten so smartthat we're not going to play in
the preseason because we want tosave people from injury.
Football is a violent sport.
Players are going to get hurt.
I'm not saying you go out there, you play your starters all
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three games, all four quarters.
I'm not telling you to do that,but you got to give them live
reps.
You got to get them out there.
You got to let them work ontheir time and especially when
you bring in new, new tools, newplay callers.
Joe Burrow unfortunately he washurt so he couldn't play at all
, but Jalen was healthy, lamarwas healthy, daniel Jones isn't
good, so I don't think it wouldhave mattered much.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, it's just like that.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Right, we just got to get back to playing in the
preseason just a little bit.
If we're going to have thesegames, they got to play in them
and, as a season ticket holder,I pay for preseason football
games.
You're not giving it to me forfree, but you're not giving me
an NFL product.
So for the sake of the fans,like, think about, think about
(08:30):
the, the less fortunate workingclass fans who all they can
afford is for preseason ticketsto row 321, seats 1112 and 13,
row 8.
You're going to go out there.
You're going to put a fuckingJV high school team out there.
They could have went down thestreet for that on Thursday.
That 430.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, they could have probably seen better football,
honestly, and so it's one ofthose things where I look at it
this way man, preseason football, matt Ryan, love.
Of course everybody knows thatI've got a fake there.
Come on, go ahead.
Matt Ryan, crazy enough, I toldyou that he had an interview I
(09:16):
think it was Thursday, lastThursday, and he did it on a 790
the zone or no, 680 the fans,what it is 790 the zone is what
it used to be called, 680 thefan and they interviewed him and
they asked him about preseasonfootball and his thoughts on it
(09:36):
and what he thought.
Because he didn't actuallycrazy enough.
He didn't take any reps, Ithink he only did.
He said that he only took liketwo different drives in
preseason last year with theColts and he said that ideally
for him he would like to spacedout over those now three games.
He would like to get at least agame worth of reps.
So quarter quarter to quarters.
(09:58):
He said 3 to 4 quarters waskind of what it is that he
wanted to see when it was forhim.
He said it didn't even matter,you know.
He said that was his first timeon a different team, but he
said there's always new guys,you know.
He said of course he always hadJulio, you know, but different
run guys, how guys take handles,he said it could be anything
but he's like and then eitherother guys.
(10:19):
He said Julio got hurt a lot.
He said I had, I had other guysI needed to depend on and they
were new to the team I needed Ineed to get some timing down.
So yeah, we have practice.
And he said, yeah, you know, inthe all season I would invite
these guys, we would go havepassing camp together or
whatever.
But he said that it's still notthe same thing as a real game.
He said preseason is close to aregular season game, as you're
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going to get in the NFL, and sofor him, you know that's what he
said.
So I would like to liken it toanyone in the league that that's
about what you would want tosee.
You will want to see your guyshave at least over a stretched
out over three preseason games,a game worth of reps.
So if you have, it dependsright on the type of game, but
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for the most part most offensesare getting, for the full game,
12 to 16 drives, just dependingon the flow of the game You're
going to get about 12 drives ina game at minimum.
Typically you get 12 drives outof you in the preseason.
I think it works right becauseyou know it used to be with the
four preseason games.
That fourth game you didn'tplay, that is the I'm not
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getting into a game, but thatthird game.
They always play the wholefirst half and the game, you at
least play this order and youmight have set out the first
game.
If you didn't, you ran the firstdrive at a bare minimum.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, and I remember Shannon Sharp talking about it
back when he was at Fox.
He was like no skip, why not?
I like preseason.
I go get that it up a littlebit like I had.
I had to fill it pause, youknow what I mean.
Like you didn't get out thereand do it.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
That's exactly that's exactly what Matt said to.
You said I wanted to get hit alittle bit.
You said I said I haven't beengetting hit for six months but
we're, we're seeing.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
We're seeing too much emphasis on the science of
sports and the money in sportsthat we're forgetting that
sports is about playing andwinning the game, like the bare
bones of sports is.
Hey, I am better than you,whether it's coaching, playing,
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strategy, whatever it is, andI'm gonna prove it to you by
playing the game.
But when you throw in theseanalytics folks who need jobs to
be relevant because they wannabe around sports, but they can't
really coach, they definitelycan't play.
So they find ways to come upwith these fucking formulas that
are up, wow to me, like the winprobability formula that the
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four letter network puts out,I'm what?
Like how it works?
Ever Like what?
Like?
How do you even create thisalgorithm?
I don't care.
And then you see it inbasketball, with all of the rest
.
You see the full off season ofworking out.
Hey, man, rest in the offseason, play during the season.
(13:08):
That's what it is for me.
Obviously, you work on yourcraft in your off season, but
rest in the off season so thatyou can play throughout the
season.
It's disrespectful to the fans,it's disrespectful to the
essence of the game.
Play the game.
Anyways, you ready to talk alittle ball?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, I'm ready to talk a little ball, but even to
get into the point of where youwere going with it, you know, I
know where we're gonna startwith ball and you can look at
that situation.
Now.
Grant Turf has something topossibly do with the two, but
you look at a guy that was newto a team that I think had one
drive in the preseason becausethey did eventually play them,
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but Aaron Rodgers.
Aaron Rodgers had one preseasondrive and then he lasted four
snaps.
It didn't even matter, itdidn't matter how many, like it
didn't matter.
You know, and maybe if he's outthere, I don't know, you know,
maybe getting more reps withthose guys there's been so much
(14:14):
that circulated around.
For I'm sorry, michael, you knowthe dude that does the let's
get ready to rumble.
Yeah, well, like he had thebiggest fake watch on, but it's
like I know it wasn't fake.
So it's just, I don't know, Ijust looked at it, just looked
fake.
But you know it's not fake morethan likely.
But with Aaron Rodgers, youknow, who knows, it could have
(14:37):
maybe helped if he got a fewmore reps out there with that
offensive line, because clearlythe O-line's not that good.
They seem like they're morelike our O-line in a weird way,
much better at run blockingbecause they were able to run
the ball effectively, but passblocking it didn't look very
good.
And then last year their passblocking wasn't very good.
I mean, the quarterback playwas atrocious too last season.
But you know, still that's apart of pass.
(15:01):
You know that's still a part ofthe pass game.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
One second.
Yeah, the.
But the Aaron, the Aaron injuryis exactly what you're talking
about.
Man, yeah, it's unpredictable.
It's not like he took a hardhit, he got sacked, fell, weird
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and boom.
But let's talk about that game,man, obviously Jets.
Jets builds Monday nightfootball, 9-11, new York City
well, new Jersey, but two NewYork teams battling Aaron
Rodgers, first Jets game.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
It's a 10 minute taxi ride from Time Square crazy
enough.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
So New York City.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah, it's New York City.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Comes out with the American flag.
You know it's beautiful.
Jets revitalize.
Hey, this is our year.
We finally got our guy.
Here we come and four plays in.
There we went.
I'm not gonna say the season'sover for the Jets.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Super Bowl aspirations for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
But yeah, super Bowl aspirations are over.
Aaron Rodgers is hurt.
Now everybody wants to talkabout is Aaron retiring?
Honestly, I don't even want tohave that conversation because I
think it's a bit disrespectful.
I mean, the man's been hurt forfour days Like can he have
surgery first?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Is it disrespectful to talk about?
I don't know if it'sdisrespectful.
You know that in sports thateverybody's always looking for
well, what's next?
What's next?
Like, all we can think about isafter we go overreacting to
what happened in week one, justin general.
And oh, big pickup on Hertz.
Look, he might be getting hurtright there the way he got
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pulled down.
But everybody's gonna overreactto week one and that's just a
part of the reaction, becausenaturally you're already
thinking about the Jets in theirseason, but then it's still
just about the future in generalof the team.
Disrespectful, no, I won't sayit's disrespectful.
Is it just premature?
In general, yes, but thespeculation was gonna be rampant
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on it because he is almost 40.
It isn't Achilles' tear.
We've got to see a few at.
Different athletes have thisand who's came back Now?
Obviously more so in basketballthan football.
I can't even tell you how manyfootball Achilles I can even
remember, but we know a coupleof notable players in basketball
.
Kevin Durant had it.
He came back.
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Obviously he's been well.
He's been an injury-proneplayer himself for what it's
worth, but he hasn't been hisAchilles either.
And Aaron Rodgers was somebodythat was an injury-prone player
to a degree.
Aaron Rodgers has had quite afew injuries in his career.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
honestly, Two broken collar bones.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah, I mean that man .
He had a leg injury once too,if you remember.
He came back out and he beatthe Bears that day on that
Sunday night, came back out onone fucking leg but they came
back and won the game magically.
But he's been an injury-proneplayer himself.
And then, of course, the mostnotable Achilles injury was Kobe
(18:19):
.
Now, like I said, this isbasketball, but Kobe's Achilles
injury, he didn't come back fromit because of how he was 35
years old when he had it and wasturning 36 before the start of
that next season.
Kobe went on to play three moreyears and I don't think maybe
combined over those three yearshe might have played a little
over 82 games, but Kobe wasnever the same right and he's
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one of the all-time greats, justlike Aaron Rodgers is.
And it's not too premature,because then you get to the
point to.
I think his Instagram poststold us everything we needed to
know.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Sounds like he's Go for it.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, it sounds like he's gonna come back.
I don't.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I think there are very few all-time greats who
wanted to keep playing and arelike, yeah, I'm out of here.
Like you think about Aaron'ssituation, right, first season
out of Green Bay, first drive,boom, there it goes.
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There goes the Achilles.
Aaron has something to proveand he hasn't had the
opportunity to prove that, so Inever even think about him.
I'm like no, he's coming back,he's gonna play ball.
But hey, zach Wilson stepped up, not really kinda sorta the
defense stepped up.
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The defense stepped up, therunning game was great and they
ended up winning the game.
So shout out to the Jets forbeing one at Brazilian One at a
time, hey, but let's talk aboutthe quarterbacks, or what the
Jets should do.
Do you think the Jets should goout and look for another
quarterback?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
They definitely need to add another quarterback, no
matter what.
I mean, I think that this weekthey're gonna be good.
I think is it something?
Boyle, that's the best that wason the practice squad.
It's gonna be up there at theback and Boyle yeah, and so I
think that they've gotta getsomething better than that
backing him up.
Because here's the thing ZachWilson got this twice last year,
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so things could get sideways,and it doesn't help that they're
gonna probably have a reallyugly matchup on Sunday because
they're going against thedefense that just shut out the
other New York team on the road.
So I don't think that that'sgonna be your perfect backup.
Yeah, is it okay to say thatZach Wilson is gonna be the
quarterback moving forward?
Sure, give him his confidence.
(20:41):
You drafted him number twooverall, had him spend what?
Three years.
So yeah, like, yeah, he shouldbe the guy that gets the rest.
He's been there for two years.
He's had those.
He should be the guy thatyou're saying is the guy going
forward.
But you do need an insurancepolicy and you need a guy that
potentially can mentor him andthat might be even a little bit
better.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
So I threw some names at you because we're not gonna
give out hot taking names.
Looking at Tyrod Taylor.
Looking at Jacobi Berset yougot your Andy Dalton's of the
world.
You got your James Winston's.
Bring Sam back to New York.
Do you got a call, carson?
(21:22):
Mr Wentz Mr Wentz is unemployed.
You got Colt McCoy unemployed.
You know there are quarterbacksout there.
Taylor Heineke don't call abouthim because he's gonna have a
starting job soon.
We'll get to that later.
Do any of those names get youexcited?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
No, I think that if there's gonna be somebody that
you have to add, it would morethan likely be Joe Flacco,
honestly, is the first personthat comes to mind, for two
reasons.
One, he was there last year, sothere's familiarity with the
roster, everything but the OC.
There's pretty much familiaritythere.
(22:08):
Two, he is somebody that's wonthe Super Bowl, right, yeah, 11
years ago.
Yeah, I know, I know, but I'mjust saying he's somebody that
did play last season.
He's got familiarity with theteam.
So he's one of the first namesthat comes to mind.
Number two, of course CarsonWentz is gonna come up because
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he's younger but he's made ofglass too.
So that's kind of one of thebigger issues with him.
He's made of glass but he's gotfamiliarity with there's Eagles
brass in there.
So there's familiarity all theway around with him and at least
he's younger too, he's not anold man.
And then the third person thatwill come to mind everybody can
(22:49):
see what they wanna say, but Ithink Matt Ryan would be
somebody that I would wanna talkto too, and I get it.
I think that the offensive line,obviously it was one of the
biggest issues with the Coltslast season, but I don't think
that the Colts were nearly astalented on either side of the
ball as the Jets are.
And I just think that with Mattyou do have a guy that, if you
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look back at Matt last year,matt carved up the Jaguars that
won their division.
In the division that he was in,he carved them up.
He had a game where he threwfor 350 yards and three
touchdowns, and that's withouthim being able to throw a 60
yard pass.
So I think that Matt can do itright.
Is he the most ideal fit?
No, but I would definitely callhim and see if he has any
(23:37):
interest.
He's not that far remote, buthe's not that far, far away.
Is that far removed from beinga good quarterback?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
No, he's not.
And I'll say the one knock onMatabe.
He's immobile and they don'thave a great offensive line.
But the Colts couldn't run theball last year, Exactly they
couldn't pass.
Protect the Jets.
They did show the ability torun the ball.
But there's one name you forgotabout, probably Pete Go ahead.
(24:07):
Actually, there's two.
Now I actually got three thatyou forgot about One, Rob
Griffin, the third, Two, CamNewton, three, three, Colin
(24:30):
Kaepernick.
Now I got a few words aboutColin Kaepernick, but before I
do that, I'm going to take adouble shot of some green river,
green river, Kentucky, straightbourbon.
Okay, yeah, go ahead, because wegot to cut the cap, we got.
(24:54):
We got to cut the cap becauseKaepernick ain't going to get
nobody nowhere.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I think that the cap thing is just so ridiculous.
It's it's so unrealistic andit's people that don't watch
football that are talking aboutit.
You know that are really sayingthat this is a real thing.
I get the report of his agentreaching out and, of course,
national people.
They've got to get the report.
(25:24):
So Colin Kaepernick after thelast time Colin Kaepernick
played in an NFL game, kevinDurant was on the Thunder and
Kobe Bryant was in his lastseason with the Lakers.
Kobe Bryant's been dead forthree years and he's been in it.
Before he had died, he had beenretired for five, almost five
years.
So this is not a realconversation.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Is what I'm saying.
So let me let me for one.
Colin Kaepernick, if you arepaying an agent to represent you
, all matters, fire him.
You are taking money and youare setting it on fire.
Colin Kaepernick, having anagent is like putting I don't
know 20 grand on the jets to winthe Super Bowl yesterday.
(26:08):
It's just wasted money.
You're not playing footballanymore.
I hear stories about ColinKaepernick still getting up four
or five AM to work out for hisNFL dream.
Stop, sleep in, rest.
Just go get you a lift in.
When you wake up, man, yourfootball playing days are over
(26:32):
Now.
If you want to go down towherever you're living at
probably New York and join alocal men's flag league, they'll
gladly take you.
If you want to go join the XFLto USFL, they'll gladly take you
.
But seven years removed, youare no longer NFL quarterback.
(26:52):
This should not be a topic ofconversation.
This is only a conversationbecause it gets impressions, it
gets clicks, it gets likes, itgets dislikes, it gets comments
because people care about cap,but we got to cut the cap.
Colin Kaepernick has no placein the NFL.
Hey, let's remember, colinKaepernick sued the NFL and
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settled Once you filed suit.
You're playing that you'replaying days were over.
Once you filed that suit, yousaid you know what?
I'll never suit up in thisleague again.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
And more.
I'm sorry to cut you off.
More importantly, I don't careto play in the NFL anymore.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Exactly so.
Let's stop talking about it.
You weren't good when you leftthe league.
You know you talk about blackball.
Do I think Colin Kaepernick gotblack balled?
Yes, Do I think he was goodenough for us to actually truly
care about it?
No, not really In the moment.
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In the moment, in the moment, Idid care and I said he deserved
to be in the league, Just likeI said Cam Newton deserves to be
in the league.
But guess what?
There are not 60 quarterbacksbetter than Carson Wentz right
now, and he's unemployed.
I agree, there are not 60quarterbacks better than Coy
right now he's unemployed.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I don't think there's 60 better than Cam Newton.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I was getting it.
There's not 60 better than CamNewton.
He's unemployed.
Hey, you know what I'm going tothrow Rob Griffin a little love
here.
When he left the league he wasgood enough to possibly be a
backup, but when you starttalking about it, somebody good
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enough to be a backup we'retalking about is.
It's like a bar talking aboutwhat are we going to choose for
our bottom shelf tequila, ourhouse tequila?
Are we going to go El Toro, orare we going to go Cuervo, or
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are we going to go I don't knowcheap tequila because I don't
drink it.
But point being is, this isn'twhat makes the money.
This is not our basic Don Julio.
You know our Teramana's, ourpatroons, and it's damn sure not
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our 1942's.
It's not our Lobos double andneho.
It's not our class Azul, right?
We're not talking about PatrickMahomes in them.
We're talking about somethingthat doesn't really make us much
money.
It doesn't change our bottomline, it doesn't change wins and
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losses, so guess what?
It doesn't really matter.
So hey, for all you superfanswho said y'all weren't going to
watch the NFL until Cap cameback, for one, y'all cut the cap
.
For all you asking to giveColin Kaepernick a chance no,
you can't leave a profession, ayoung man's profession, a
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position that requires precision, accuracy, timing, work, film,
chemistry, live bullets, and say70 years, come back and do it.
He's not going to be good if hecomes back.
It's going to take too muchtime for him to be good.
If he can still be good andhere's the thing he'll get
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everybody in that building fired.
No one's putting their job onthe line for Colin Kaepernick.
They didn't do it when he wasgood, so just cut the cap.
Cap is over.
Go do your docs, write your book, protest, grow your flow, do
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all the great things that you'redoing off the field, because
you're never getting on the NFLfield as a player.
And last thing, maybe, justmaybe, if you want to swallow
your pride and play in a lesserleague and ball it out and show
people who didn't know howserious you were about football
that you were committed tofootball, not just the NFL.
You were committed to footballand that you wanted to be great
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at football and you would doanything that you could do to
prove that you were great atfootball.
Maybe you still be playingfootball, but now you're doing
like me and Parley Pete You'redoing what you got to do to pay
your bills and enjoy your life,but you ain't getting paid to
play.
No NIL for you, buddy.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
That's a good way to put it.
I don't know.
I wonder if Cap can bet ongames.
I'm sure he can, I guess.
But either way, it's a uselessconversation, in a sense of he
was never legitimately going tohave a chance at playing in the
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NFL again for all the reasonsthat you named.
But at the same time, I thinkthat if anyone wants to look at
Colin Kaepernick and say, ohwell, let's make him a
legitimate option, okay, let'sbreak it down.
He hasn't played in seven years.
I think Steve DeBerg has therecord for the longest layoff
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between playing football and notplaying football, and I'm
curious, you know who SteveDeBerg is right.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Name is Ringsabelle.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Steve DeBerg was a Falcons quarterback.
He started some games for ChrisChandler in the 98 season.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
He was 45 years old because before Tom, I think Tom
Brady broke that record as theoldest starting quarterback ever
.
Steve DeBerg held it for a verylong time.
Vinny Testaverde didn't evenhave the record and we know
Vinny Testaverde was a guy thatjust felt like he just would
never go away.
Steve DeBerg one second.
Steve DeBerg came out ofretirement and I think that he
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hadn't played in four years andDan Reeves put him in and we
actually won one of the games.
He started two games thatseason and played for Chris
Chandler and we won one of thegames.
Now, look, we were 14 and two,excuse my language, we went 14
and two right that season, butSteve DeBerg was able to win a
game.
Now, look, I'm breaking downsome.
(33:19):
I all right, cap, seven years.
Steve DeBerg for All right.
Next, what did he do the lasttime he did play in the NFL?
What was his last body of work?
What did it look like?
Hmm, he went one in 10.
He went one in 10.
And the 49ers, I think, endedup.
If they didn't have the numberone pick that year, they
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certainly had the number twopick.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
I think it was like three because yeah, because it
was right before Kyle, kyle andLynch came in right.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yes.
Yeah, because they said becausethey told him oh my god, he
just put it on the deck, TomSula.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Tom Sula.
Did he get cut him or was it a?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
well he's but I'm saying Tom Sula was the next
year, but then this is like onein 15.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
And Lynch was like hey, bro, nah, here's what we're
going to do.
We're going to cut you becausewe don't want to restructure
your contract and we don't wantyou here.
Right, and here's one thingI'll say on that.
I'll admit where I was wrong.
I was rocking out with Cap then.
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Maybe it was because I was dumb, maybe it was because I looked
at the stats that were favorablefor him, because he had some
favorable stats and they werenot a good team.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, his stats actually weren't bad.
If you looked at him.
He threw like 14 touchdowns andhe only had like six picks, so
it wasn't like a terrible I andPT ratio.
The completion percentagewasn't great, it was like in the
mid to low fifties.
But the record they didn't winfootball games, they were
getting blown out.
And that was a team that theyear before, with Jim Harbaugh,
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was still 500.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
And here's the one thing Parley Pete, I'll never
knock a man or woman forstanding up for what they
believe in.
But with that comesconsequences and you can't.
You can't shake the room, youcan't shake the tree If you
(35:32):
ain't got roots.
Now, if you got roots, you canshake the hell out of that tree
because it's on you.
When you're independent, whenyou're a business owner, you can
cut up.
Elon Musk can do all types ofwild stuff, but Elon owns the
brand that is Elon.
So Elon can still make moves.
(35:55):
He can't.
Can't nobody fire Elon.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
What you can't do is you can't come in my house and
tell me amen, it's sinking here.
Hey, I don't like what thatmirror is at.
Amen, you should use bluetoilet cleaner instead of green
toilet cleaner.
I like to piss in blue toiletsbecause I'm crimping.
Oh, hold on, hold, on, hold, onHold on what bills you pay in
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the house.
You don't pay nothing.
Oh, I pay you to come here.
Are you going to tell me how,nah, bro, you got to go?
So when you do what ColinKaepernick did, is when it hurts
.
Kanye West is a prime example ofsomebody who stands up for what
he believes in.
Unlike Cap, kanye is supertalented, super, super
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profitable.
So people put up with Kanye'squote, unquote, nonsense of
things they didn't like becauseit still was beneficial to them,
and then, when they thought itwouldn't be beneficial to them,
they cut ties with him.
And then they realized thatDita said whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa
, whoa, whoa.
Hey, hey, hey, get this.
We got to fix this.
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Yeah, but Cap wasn't Kanye,yeah.
So what Cap is, I don't know.
Name an artist who comes to thelabel but doesn't really do
anything.
Name a failed artist.
I don't.
I can't even think of a failedartist, but think of artists who
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don't make.
No, you know what?
Cap is meek meal.
Cap is meat fucking meal.
Meek meal An artist who wasgreat at one, who, who had a
good run.
Meek hit like cap had that,that, that big game against the
Packers.
That's meek dreams andnightmares.
The meat got upset with how hewas being treated in the
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industry and he wanted to changethe whole thing.
Like these labels ain't lettingme do this and this and that.
All right me, go away.
So now meek like releases hismusic on like SoundCloud.
I don't know where he releasesmusic, but he's not releasing on
DSPs and protests of industry.
And guess what?
I don't even think about meekmeal as an artist man.
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We think about him as a as a doboy, a cuck to goes on at the,
at the what's his name part, theMichael.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Rubin Michael Rubin's house.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Rubbin tugs.
Right, that's what we thinkabout me.
Rubin tugs.
Well, I said, I said, robertKraft, rubin tuck parties.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Oh well, yeah, maybe with, maybe with Rob.
That's what they're doing, butat Rubin's house they're doing a
little bit more than that.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
They're doing blowing the hookers.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I think, I think I think meek's doing a little bit
more than that, but because itdoesn't make any, that shit,
that does not make any sense.
I'm telling you, it makes itdoesn't?
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Hey, do you like that ?
Cap is meek, I freestyle thatthat's a good one.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I think that's a that's a fair rap to.
To lead comparison, I mean, Iknow we get them all the time
Right.
You know it's it's.
It's.
It's pretty sad.
Taylor Hurst just threw aninterception, by the way, after
yeah, I was.
Hell he was just like cap atthat point.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
But um, and you know Josh Hovie, he jumped out early
and drafted him.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
I know he drafted him , I think in the if it wasn't
the second, it was definitelythe third.
He was the first quarterbacktaken and Josh thought that all
of us were going to be like oh,but we were all more like what a
dumbass pick.
I mean, this was the equivalentof you taking Gus Edward.
Well, I tell you I won't.
I won't knock him down that bad, because that was just as bad
as it was going to ever get, butit was pretty bad.
(39:43):
I didn't like the pickregardless.
So are we done?
Speaker 1 (39:47):
talking about cap, and can we talk about the walk
from cap?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
We're taking too much cap doesn't deserve our time
like that.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Josh Allen hey, man, you sucked.
You came out and you took, youtook accountability for your
mistakes.
Cool, I listen to Calhurt talkabout it and he's giving Josh
Allen Bell talking about SeanMcDermott, defensive coach, not
developing the O line, notdeveloping the run game, all of
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that nonsense.
No, bro, I'm not shooting JoshAllen Bell because he got to be
contract If he was still in therookie deal, if he was getting
paid 30 million a year.
Yeah, we can talk about himneeding to be a coach.
We can talk about him needingbetter pieces around him,
needing better coaching aroundhim.
And don't get me wrong, playersneed good coaches, players need
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good pieces.
But when you decide to makeyour quarterback the highest
paid quarterback in the leagueat the time, give him those big
deal contracts.
You've got to elevate stuff.
You are choosing him overpieces.
So when you choose him overpieces, he has to step up.
Three picks, one fumble, fourturnovers is never acceptable.
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I don't care if you're a rookiequarterback, I don't care if
you're a JV backup quarterbackplaying on Friday night under
the lights in Texas, georgia,florida, alabama, california.
I don't care at what levelyou're playing football on, I
don't care what yourexpectations are.
Four turnovers is never theright answer, unless you're a
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defender, but as a quarterback,four turnovers is never the
right answer.
And there's not an excuse inthe book, whether it's coaching,
whether it's telling around youthat I'm going to hear.
But I came on here I've been onhere for years saying Josh
Allen is not who they say he is.
He is who I said he was Highlytalented, nice body, nice
(41:52):
prototype, have all the skillsin the world.
But he's not him.
Stop putting them inconversations with Patrick
Mahomes.
Don't put them in conversationswith Joe Burrow.
I don't know about Jalen Hurts,because the way he looking
right now they might be the sameconversation.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Well, this game.
It's a good thing that we'reeven still going at this,
honestly doing it, even duringthis game.
This game looks like it doesfucking suck For me.
I was in her Madison my runningback one RB two and fast yes,
he just fumbled.
So that wasn't a very good.
It's not very good for me, butbut Josh Allen is more.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Josh Allen is Cam Newton light.
You won't compare him to BigBen.
You want to compare.
None of that.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
He's Cam Newton light that they are.
No, I like the Cam NewtonDenlauers route.
I think it is a.
It's a mixture, it really is.
It's just because the way hecame and been yes, yeah, light,
and then Ben wasn't been wasn'tabsolved of turning the ball
(43:02):
over.
And we're not talking aboutBen's last season either, we're
talking throughout Ben's careerWow Ball over to.
Like you know, I think hisrunning ability obviously is
more Cam Newton and then, youknow, ben could run in his early
day, he would run a little, hewouldn't even run him like that,
like that Josh Allen plays soreckless and like.
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That's one of the things that,if you remember, I can remember
the first time that I thoughtJosh Allen was going to be good
and it was in that Texansplayoff game.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
They play the Jalen Hertz killed out.
Here you might be ahead of me.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
What are you?
I see 35.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Okay, watch 35 and you'll see what I'm saying.
Hey guys, we'll tell you.
Like last week we got recordingbefore the game started for
this very reason.
It is not going to be the mostcoherent show, because we're
watching the game whilerecording yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Yeah, it's like they blow a little, but.
But you know what we expectedthis step back to not to not to
cut into our conversation oranything, but we kind of did
expect this to happen and in aweird way it's similar.
I think you were a little bitmore on the bandwagon of the
bill, sucking like you, not likeit, like I still had the bills
(44:27):
as a playoff team, but I didhave them finish a third in the
division.
I just believe that they'regoing to have three teams in the
playoff and while that wasobviously before the air riders
saying the Jets can oh, did theyjust miss the field goal to?
They did.
What a sloppy first quarterfootball.
This is man.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
We're talking about a pick a fumble, three fumbles.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah, it's been ugly.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
You know, I think these guys on Thursday wake up
and say how can we get outMichael's off TV?
Speaker 2 (45:03):
What do you think that they say that?
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Hello, you know I don't hate out.
I don't hate out, but I thinkthey go.
How can we get Herb Street backto Saturday and Al Michaels to
retire?
We're going to keep playingterrible football on Thursdays.
Let's take him to.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Josh Allen, but you want to know what it is.
Let's blame the NFL, too forthis in a weird way.
As much as we love this, it'sbad for the players and it's bad
for the product, just in asense of we're not going to get
quality football out of a guythat just played their first
game Sunday and they already areplaying again on Thursday.
(45:47):
That's two games in one week iswhat it is.
And is it really worth thoseextra three days worth of rest
for the following game the verynext week?
Is it really?
And look, this will be somethingwe'll talk about throughout the
season because we're going tocontinue to get sloppy Thursday
night games.
When's the last time you said,man, this Thursday night,
(46:07):
outside of a season opener,when's the last time you sat up
and said, man, this Thursdaynight game is kicking ass.
I love this, and Al Michaelshas got to talk through it, and
then they've got to add in KurtHerbstree.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
And Kurt.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Herbstree doesn't know the NFL?
No, he doesn't.
He's out here pointing out theguys.
He's like Jordan Addison out ofUSC.
I mean, what a terrific playerhe's going to use those type of
comments, because that's what itis that he's going to talk
about throughout the game.
The first round picks.
You know, he's like JaylenCarter, looking him right there
(46:41):
on the in the inside he's, he's,he's lined up in a three
position and watch how he justducks through here.
And then it's not even him thatmakes a play.
It'll be like Hassan Redickthat makes the tackle.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
Well, he doesn't know Hassan Redick, because Hassan
Redick is too far removed fromcollege football.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Yeah, but Jaylen Carter look at that three
technique you saw Americangangster, right?
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Yeah, of course you remember when Frank Lucas went
up to old boy it was like hey,hey, hey, hey, it's a blue magic
.
Don't be calling this bluemagic, you're going to step on
it.
Whatever, you don't call itblue magic, blue magic, blue
magic.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
He said you can call it blue dog shit for all I care.
He said.
He said, but this is my brand.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
And somebody with NFL needs to go and talk to Godel
and say, hey, this Thursdaynight shit is not NFL.
You can call it the footballleague of America.
You can call the foot of thethe the National League of
Football.
You see that too, yeah, butthis right here is not in NFL
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football.
Thursday.
The reserve for the freshmanand JV team at 430 and six
o'clock.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Right, you I hate to say it in a weird way you might
as well put the worst teams onThursday night.
That way everybody gets a primetime game.
Let's start there If you'regoing to continue to do Thursday
night football.
Everybody gets a prime timegame and then you know we can at
least watch bad footballinstead.
(48:14):
Like it can be a bad footballgame.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
But we watch good teams play bad games.
Hey, you remember, when theyfirst started this Thursday
night football thing, they wouldonly do division games, because
the teams needed less prep time, because they actually knew
their opponents a little bit.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Yeah, I know it was a majority.
Well, yes, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
The opener was this own thing.
Then it was division games, butyou know, pigs get fed, hogs
get slaughtered, and then itfell turning the hogs.
Right now, man, like you'regiving us so much product but
you're not giving us high endproduct.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Yes, McDonald's and look, mcdonald's largest
restaurant in the world.
Literally, mcdonald's is thelargest restaurant in the world.
They're everywhere.
But what is it?
You know it's food that's notgood for you.
It can be good sometimes, likeit can taste good, like it can
taste good if we get a good gameon the screen.
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But for the most part it's notgood for you, it's not good for
the product, it's not good forthe players, it's not good for
anyone but the pockets of theowners.
In reality, we might get oneweek where we get a good
Thursday night game.
Hell, you remember last year wegot that.
Russell Wilson, matt Ryan duelthese are guys that face off in
the playoffs a couple of times.
And what did we get out of that?
(49:41):
We got maybe one of the worstfootball games I've ever seen.
It was a matter of man whodoesn't turn the ball over first
is going to win the game.
That's what it turned into.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
Hey Parley Pete, matt Ryan prevailed, by the way.
Hey Parley Pete, I'll be upthere Saturday, right, mm-hmm Is
it, your family, again.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
How's that going to work?
Speaker 1 (50:06):
I'm going to kill myself.
Okay, do you think we'll go eatMcDonald's on Saturday?
Speaker 2 (50:16):
I would say the likelihood is a hell, no.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
But let's think about it.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
We're really late and we're hungry.
I mean, I've got food here, butit's very unlikely Lay hammered
and hungry.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
How many things have to go wrong for us to go to
McDonald's?
Speaker 2 (50:39):
One, it's got to be open.
Two, we've got to be driving.
Three, they've got to be.
Yeah, they've got to be.
Think about McDonald's.
They need 24 hours Crazy enough, like a lot of them are, for
whatever reason, but either waywe've got to be really hungry.
We have to be in our carsbecause, think about it, we're
not going to get in an Uberuntil the Uber driver gets on
(50:59):
right.
A lot of things have got to gowrong.
I've got to say man, I don'twant to warm up a frozen pizza.
I don't have anything to eat atthe house.
We didn't get food beforehand.
I mean, there would have to bea lot of different things that
go into.
Man, let's go to McDonald's.
It gets even worse.
(51:21):
If you've got to orderMcDonald's, I would never make
delivery some french fries to myhouse.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
Oh bro, it's the worst.
I've done it.
Why would I do that?
I've done it and it's terrible.
It's like why did I just ordertwo burgers?
Because I can't eat these fries.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Yeah well, and then the burgers probably aren't even
going to be hot.
You might have to throw them infor at least 10 seconds,
something to give it just alittle bit more warmth, because
you're like, man, this is nothot.
And then make sure too, don'tget a burger that's got lettuce
or something.
Don't get a Big Mac orsomething like that.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Oh man.
Now your lettuce is hot, ohgodly Chick-Plaid, Pick chicken
nuggets at your own peril manlike that breast.
Yeah, anyways, anyways, anyways.
Do you have anything else aboutthese?
Uh, these, uh, buffs the bills,or uh, aaron Rodgers or Colin
(52:20):
Kaepernick or the Jets?
Speaker 2 (52:24):
No man, we've got so much more season to go on.
I think let's wait and see Joshout.
He's been a turnover machine,but let's wait and see.
Obviously, I think the billsthey've been a good team,
regardless of his turnovers.
I think that they'll end upbouncing back and we'll get to
that once we get to the picks.
But um, you know they'll bounceback.
The Colin Kaepernick thing wasnever a story, and Aaron Rodgers
?
In terms of next season, we'lljust have to wait and see.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
Oh, one quick thing.
You know this podcast loves JoeBuck and Troy Eggman.
We love them.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Yes, best.
They're the best duo in theleague.
I mean it's.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
I don't think it's a conversation, uh.
But here's one thing that Ididn't like and this happened in
the Thursday game that wedidn't talk about.
And we can't get that quicklybecause we got seven minutes to
close out the hour.
Joe Buck calling an asterisk onthe missed penalty.
Joe's, better than that.
(53:22):
You know, most fan bases don'tlike Joe Buck because he's not a
Homer in football.
I can't speak to him calling aSt Louis Cardinals game, but
he's not.
He's not a Homer.
He calls it, you know, prettystraight up and down.
And him throwing an asteriskpiece piece in there like Joe,
(53:45):
joe.
This is why the fuck, joe Buck.
Shit actually trends at timeson Twitter.
Man, yeah, they, some stupidlike this Reps miss calls all
the time.
Those guys wanted to go homefor one.
They didn't want to keepwatching Zach Wilson not be good
and Josh Allen turn off, turnthe ball over.
(54:06):
It's like, hey man, let's wrapthis thing up.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
We came here for a lot.
Speaker 1 (54:10):
But again, more importantly, refs miss calls.
So we can't put an asterisk onthe game because the ref missed
a call.
Speaker 2 (54:17):
It was a grievous.
It seemed like he was doing ita lot based on the way that they
counted it could have that.
It doesn't mean you put anasterisk on it, but like it
would have been a lot of Falsestart calls based on they showed
him a multiple like I mean alot of friends.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
What's your?
I don't know what you'retalking about.
We're talking about the Chiefs,no, no, no, we're talking about
, like there was a tripping, thetripping call on the punt
return and Joe put an asteriskon that.
Now we shift to that ChiefsLions game.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
And well, tariqo put an asterisk on.
He put an asterisk on it, buthe said, like the same thing,
and that was horseshit.
I'm just saying you we can't doit.
The game got play,imperfections happen.
It's just like with baseball,right, like like they're going
to be strike calls that areballs, they're going to be ball
calls that are strikes.
It's an imperfect game.
(55:15):
We're not we're, we're human.
And so, unless you want to getrobot, you know, hey, refs and
um, I know we got robot fansfinally, but Our AI, I'm sorry,
I don't even want to call arobot anymore.
It's AI, it's artificialintelligence.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
But they're weird with the AI fan.
Speaker 2 (55:36):
That's the only way to get it, I don't know, I don't
know what it means, but youknow it's take away.
I took away from it more thananything.
Is that, man, that this couldbe a real thing?
And I think they're trying towarm people up to the idea that,
as if they haven't.
Hollywood hasn't made so manymovies on this stuff where we've
already got to see how thiscould just go so wrong.
(55:57):
Um, and I get it is so cool tobe like, wow, that's crazy, kind
of looks like a real personoutside of the metal, coming
from the metal.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
Do we want to mingle with AI?
Do you want to mingle with thepeople?
We want to mingle with thepeople Like I enjoy sitting in
my section.
Speaker 2 (56:18):
Hey you hit, you hit, you hit.
Oh, tj Hawkinson, yes, sir,what did I tell you, brother?
Hey, I told you it was a goodbet.
What did I tell you?
I love TJ Hawkinson.
At the end of the day, I waslike those type of bets.
(56:39):
I thought about changing up towhere the six pack we we start
changing and I think I've doneit kind of before but to where
literally, I go down and I giveyou the best six fix, including
stuff like this where there's,you know, player props that you
can add in.
But I know that a lot ofbetting they don't do it, they
don't do it.
To where you can play a propwith games like there's a lot of
(57:00):
weird stuff, but the TJHawkinson touchdown.
I loved it from the get go.
I love it from the get go.
Yeah, tj.
Speaker 1 (57:11):
Hawkinson.
Good pay, anyways.
Um, yeah, I don't real.
I just don't like, I don't.
I guess I don't like the Astrosbecause the game's not perfect.
Uh, really quickly, do we takeanything significant away from?
Um?
The Lions beat the Chiefs.
Honestly, I think the Chiefshad drops, didn't have Travis
(57:35):
Kelsey, didn't have Chris Jones.
They're both back.
This week Chiefs are going tobe 12 and five.
Speaker 2 (57:46):
I think that, um, the Chiefs are better.
They are better.
Uh, they didn't have their bestdefensive player and they
didn't have their best offensiveskill position player, so at
the end of the, I guess they'rebetter than the Chiefs.
Okay, yeah, they didn't havetheir two best skill position
(58:07):
players.
Oh, I mean their best skillposition player.
And then, let's let's throwthis caveat in there too Kaderis
Turni absolutely blew the game.
I mean, yeah, like he's had awide receiver performers.
A wide receiver should neveraffect the game that bad if he
did no, he had a pick.
Yeah, he dropped, he droppedthe pass that was a big hit, it
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was a big hit.
The pick six, it was key thirddowns, it was a lot of stuff.
I mean it was a lot of stuff,it wasn't just.
It wasn't just that pick six.
Speaker 1 (58:43):
He wasn't good, had a bad game.
Hope Holds is okay, over there.
Speaker 2 (58:51):
Yeah, I was about to troll him.
I was about to tell him I waslike I'm not exciting.
Speaker 1 (58:59):
Okay, you know, I don't see those things?
Speaker 2 (59:01):
No, you just put it in the group.
Speaker 1 (59:05):
Oh yeah, see the DC.
Huh.
Speaker 2 (59:06):
Yeah, and Dale said you is making moves in all caps.
Speaker 1 (59:12):
He's funny, but uh Uh , check your text in a second.
Speaker 2 (59:25):
I guess what actually look we're actually kind of
wrapping.
Hi, I want to hear from you.
How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm doing fantastic.
I got a lot of flooding goingon here in Atlanta, but outside
of that all as well, I hope youall are safe out there.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
You know some fortunate.
I saw what happened onnorthside Hell, I saw your
parking lot and I saw whathappened to Clark, atlanta, man.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I mean, how much worse can it get?
And the crazy thing is, if I'mnot mistaken, mistake in Clark
they were complaining aboutmaybe not we did, I mean, nobody
foresees that comment but theywere complaining about living
conditions in general at Clark.
Well, they're bad now.
It was there and I think Howarddid it too.
There are a couple of ACC'sthat did it and they but I know
(00:44):
that Clark was one of them too,and you know that really bad.
Look on the AUC.
Well, obviously not the AUC,but Clark.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Well, it's a bad look on the AUC because it's being
packaged at Lennie.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
University Center.
Yeah, but we don't.
Morehouse College doesn't haveanything to do with that.
We don't.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
But um, yeah, man, uh hate to see it, uh shit.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
You want to know.
You want to know what it doesto Morehouse and Spelman.
It reminds me of when I was akid man me, uh, justice, and my
brother Tarris.
We're all two years apart inour rooms.
We're all next to each other.
Let's say that justice wasabout to get his ass beat by my
mom.
He's about to get a whipping.
See, you know what me andTarris are doing?
I'm going into my bathroom, I'mcleaning up my dirty clothes.
(01:33):
I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm trying toget my shit together before she
gets to me.
And essentially that would bewhat would be kind of maybe what
happens with the rest of theAUC, something like this with
Clark.
It makes them have to go in andsay oh no, we'll see, we're not
going to have these problems,even though we don't have these
problems.
These are the measures we'reabout to put in place to where
something like this neverhappens again.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Bro, let me tell you what that reminds me of my
senior year of high school.
I watched my little cousinshout out to big Austin.
He watched the show His mom hadto get up at like super, super
early and he was in elementaryschool, so like I would be there
to make sure he woke up and allof that stuff Right, so
practically live there.
(02:16):
Uh, austin was getting introuble one day and his mother
is not one who gets angry toooften.
She's real cool, real chill,but when she gets angry it's
kind of scared, so he's gettingyelled at.
I'm in a room like, oh shit, Iget scared.
(02:36):
18 years old, I haven't doneanything wrong.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Wait, how old is Austin at the time?
Fifth?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
grade.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Okay, like 12.
Okay, 11, something like that.
But you're seeing, your ass isgetting scared.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, cause I don't.
That's the only second time Isee my onion Get mad.
Yeah, and the other in thefirst time was that his older
brother.
And then I just casually leftthe house.
I said, ah, it's time for me togo Right.
But it's like, hold on, let mehave I done all my homework yet.
Let me just plug my headphonesin and watch this movie.
I don't want to be of nodisturbance.
(03:13):
I don't want to give her areason to ask me a question.
I answer it wrong.
I'm not bro, I'm out of theknow.
I'm good, yeah, but you know,um, it's funny because I imagine
you having brothers.
When one of your brothersdecides to clean up his room
(03:34):
which I doubt that most dudes dogrowing up on their own, just
on their own volition, but ithappens from time to time you
probably start cleaning up.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Well, if you hear somebody getting their ass beat
because they're not cleaning up,we've talked to start talking
about.
Look, this is the era that I'min, you start talking about.
Um, one of the big things thatwe used to do as kids was take
sodas and bring them up to ourroom.
So you've got soda cans or cupsor whatever like sitting inside
.
Now imagine just constantlyleaving it up there, and as a
(04:05):
kid too, for the most part, forone, you're not supposed to be
doing eating and drinking forthe kitchen.
Let's start there.
But number two, you know, notonly is it that, but there's
this potential amp problem,because you're probably not
finished in the soda and you'releaving sugar there and you're
not taking it down in themorning.
You have a clean house.
If you leave shit out, it don'tmatter.
(04:26):
These animals are going to beable to smell it.
I mean rats, like everything,can.
They can pick up the setbetween these walls.
You know, roaches, whatever itis, can pick up these sets.
I mean, you've seen men inblack, right, edgar?
What did he say when he wentinto that house?
He said sugar.
So it's the same thing.
(04:46):
So, point being, if that's whatI hear going on in there, I'm
about to get my shit together.
That's what I'm going to do.
I'm going to get my shittogether.
I'm not worried about reallywhat's going on in there.
I'm worried about I know thatshe's about to make a round.
She's going to come in herenext because now something has
(05:07):
been, something has happened tomake it to where this has got
her attention.
My room is right here.
We should be in justice sharethe same bathroom.
So I need to hurry up and getmy dirty clothes in a hamper and
my bed needs to be made.
My wrestling toys need to beput up like my video game.
Shit needs to not be all overthe place, like my clothes need
(05:30):
to be hung up, my clean clotheslike they need to be hung up,
everything needs to be folded.
Let me hurry up and get thisdone before she gets in here
while, because I could hear himscreaming.
So let me hurry the fuck upbecause I don't want to be
screaming.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Man, that's funny.
So we got a great show fory'all today, man, we're going to
talk week one NFL.
We're going to talk somecollege football.
We might get to a little bit ofbasketball, because we actually
have some real basketball news.
I think Adam Silver was beingvery strategic and putting this
stuff out because he wanted toensure that his league was
(06:12):
getting some attention.
So I'm going to open up theshow talking about the
importance of the preseason.
Man, if you look at last week,the four quarterbacks who got
paid big contracts, it's kind ofsucked, you know.
Jalen Hertz, joe Burrow, danielJones, margex Say again, lamar
(06:36):
Jackson yeah, or good.
And one thing the four of themhad is they didn't play in the
preseason.
And as we're getting quoteunquote smarter in sports, I
also think we're losing sight ofwhat makes you, of what makes
you better.
Well, and we're seeing in theNBA, we're focusing so much on
(06:57):
rest and training that we'reforgetting about playing the
game.
The point of the preseason isto get the players out there,
get their feet wet, get used tolive hits under a whistle in
front of a crowd, to work ontiming, to work through nerves.
(07:18):
Yeah, it's to figure out who'sgood and who's not, who you're
going to cut, who you're goingto keep.
But a lot of that's done inpractice, right.
But now we've gotten so smartthat we're not going to play in
the preseason because we want tosave people from injury.
Football is a violent sport.
Players are going to get hurt.
I'm not saying you go out there, you play your starters all
(07:41):
three games, all four quarters.
I'm not telling you to do that,but you got to give them live
reps.
You got to get them out there.
You got to let them work ontheir time and especially when
you bring in new, new tools, newplay callers.
Joe Burrow unfortunately he washurt so he couldn't play at all
, but Jalen was healthy, lamarwas healthy, daniel Jones isn't
good, so I don't think it wouldhave mattered much.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, it's just like that.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Right, we just got to get back to playing in the
preseason just a little bit.
If we're going to have thesegames, they got to play in them
and, as a season ticket holder,I pay for preseason football
games.
You're not giving it to me forfree, but you're not giving me
an NFL product.
So for the sake of the fans,like, think about, think about
(08:30):
the, the less fortunate workingclass fans who all they can
afford is for preseason ticketsto row 321, seats 1112 and 13,
row 8.
You're going to go out there.
You're going to put a fuckingJV high school team out there.
They could have went down thestreet for that on Thursday.
That 430.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, they could have probably seen better football,
honestly, and so it's one ofthose things where I look at it
this way man, preseason football, matt Ryan, love.
Of course everybody knows thatI've got a fake there.
Come on, go ahead.
Matt Ryan, crazy enough, I toldyou that he had an interview I
(09:16):
think it was Thursday, lastThursday, and he did it on a 790
the zone or no, 680 the fans,what it is 790 the zone is what
it used to be called, 680 thefan and they interviewed him and
they asked him about preseasonfootball and his thoughts on it
(09:36):
and what he thought.
Because he didn't actuallycrazy enough.
He didn't take any reps, Ithink he only did.
He said that he only took liketwo different drives in
preseason last year with theColts and he said that ideally
for him he would like to spacedout over those now three games.
He would like to get at least agame worth of reps.
So quarter quarter to quarters.
(09:58):
He said 3 to 4 quarters waskind of what it is that he
wanted to see when it was forhim.
He said it didn't even matter,you know.
He said that was his first timeon a different team, but he
said there's always new guys,you know.
He said of course he always hadJulio, you know, but different
run guys, how guys take handles,he said it could be anything
but he's like and then eitherother guys.
(10:19):
He said Julio got hurt a lot.
He said I had, I had other guysI needed to depend on and they
were new to the team I needed Ineed to get some timing down.
So yeah, we have practice.
And he said, yeah, you know, inthe all season I would invite
these guys, we would go havepassing camp together or
whatever.
But he said that it's still notthe same thing as a real game.
He said preseason is close to aregular season game, as you're
(10:40):
going to get in the NFL, and sofor him, you know that's what he
said.
So I would like to liken it toanyone in the league that that's
about what you would want tosee.
You will want to see your guyshave at least over a stretched
out over three preseason games,a game worth of reps.
So if you have, it dependsright on the type of game, but
(11:03):
for the most part most offensesare getting, for the full game,
12 to 16 drives, just dependingon the flow of the game You're
going to get about 12 drives ina game at minimum.
Typically you get 12 drives outof you in the preseason.
I think it works right becauseyou know it used to be with the
four preseason games.
That fourth game you didn'tplay, that is the I'm not
(11:24):
getting into a game, but thatthird game.
They always play the wholefirst half and the game, you at
least play this order and youmight have set out the first
game.
If you didn't, you ran the firstdrive at a bare minimum.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, and I remember Shannon Sharp talking about it
back when he was at Fox.
He was like no skip, why not?
I like preseason.
I go get that it up a littlebit like I had.
I had to fill it pause, youknow what I mean.
Like you didn't get out thereand do it.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
That's exactly that's exactly what Matt said to.
You said I wanted to get hit alittle bit.
You said I said I haven't beengetting hit for six months but
we're, we're seeing.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
We're seeing too much emphasis on the science of
sports and the money in sportsthat we're forgetting that
sports is about playing andwinning the game, like the bare
bones of sports is.
Hey, I am better than you,whether it's coaching, playing,
(12:26):
strategy, whatever it is, andI'm gonna prove it to you by
playing the game.
But when you throw in theseanalytics folks who need jobs to
be relevant because they wannabe around sports, but they can't
really coach, they definitelycan't play.
So they find ways to come upwith these fucking formulas that
are up, wow to me, like the winprobability formula that the
(12:48):
four letter network puts out,I'm what?
Like how it works?
Ever Like what?
Like?
How do you even create thisalgorithm?
I don't care.
And then you see it inbasketball, with all of the rest
.
You see the full off season ofworking out.
Hey, man, rest in the offseason, play during the season.
(13:08):
That's what it is for me.
Obviously, you work on yourcraft in your off season, but
rest in the off season so thatyou can play throughout the
season.
It's disrespectful to the fans,it's disrespectful to the
essence of the game.
Play the game.
Anyways, you ready to talk alittle ball?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, I'm ready to talk a little ball, but even to
get into the point of where youwere going with it, you know, I
know where we're gonna startwith ball and you can look at
that situation.
Now.
Grant Turf has something topossibly do with the two, but
you look at a guy that was newto a team that I think had one
drive in the preseason becausethey did eventually play them,
(13:53):
but Aaron Rodgers.
Aaron Rodgers had one preseasondrive and then he lasted four
snaps.
It didn't even matter, itdidn't matter how many, like it
didn't matter.
You know, and maybe if he's outthere, I don't know, you know,
maybe getting more reps withthose guys there's been so much
(14:14):
that circulated around.
For I'm sorry, michael, you knowthe dude that does the let's
get ready to rumble.
Yeah, well, like he had thebiggest fake watch on, but it's
like I know it wasn't fake.
So it's just, I don't know, Ijust looked at it, just looked
fake.
But you know it's not fake morethan likely.
But with Aaron Rodgers, youknow, who knows, it could have
(14:37):
maybe helped if he got a fewmore reps out there with that
offensive line, because clearlythe O-line's not that good.
They seem like they're morelike our O-line in a weird way,
much better at run blockingbecause they were able to run
the ball effectively, but passblocking it didn't look very
good.
And then last year their passblocking wasn't very good.
I mean, the quarterback playwas atrocious too last season.
But you know, still that's apart of pass.
(15:01):
You know that's still a part ofthe pass game.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
One second.
Yeah, the.
But the Aaron, the Aaron injuryis exactly what you're talking
about.
Man, yeah, it's unpredictable.
It's not like he took a hardhit, he got sacked, fell, weird
(15:27):
and boom.
But let's talk about that game,man, obviously Jets.
Jets builds Monday nightfootball, 9-11, new York City
well, new Jersey, but two NewYork teams battling Aaron
Rodgers, first Jets game.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
It's a 10 minute taxi ride from Time Square crazy
enough.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
So New York City.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah, it's New York City.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Comes out with the American flag.
You know it's beautiful.
Jets revitalize.
Hey, this is our year.
We finally got our guy.
Here we come and four plays in.
There we went.
I'm not gonna say the season'sover for the Jets.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Super Bowl aspirations for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
But yeah, super Bowl aspirations are over.
Aaron Rodgers is hurt.
Now everybody wants to talkabout is Aaron retiring?
Honestly, I don't even want tohave that conversation because I
think it's a bit disrespectful.
I mean, the man's been hurt forfour days Like can he have
surgery first?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Is it disrespectful to talk about?
I don't know if it'sdisrespectful.
You know that in sports thateverybody's always looking for
well, what's next?
What's next?
Like, all we can think about isafter we go overreacting to
what happened in week one, justin general.
And oh, big pickup on Hertz.
Look, he might be getting hurtright there the way he got
(16:59):
pulled down.
But everybody's gonna overreactto week one and that's just a
part of the reaction, becausenaturally you're already
thinking about the Jets in theirseason, but then it's still
just about the future in generalof the team.
Disrespectful, no, I won't sayit's disrespectful.
Is it just premature?
In general, yes, but thespeculation was gonna be rampant
(17:21):
on it because he is almost 40.
It isn't Achilles' tear.
We've got to see a few at.
Different athletes have thisand who's came back Now?
Obviously more so in basketballthan football.
I can't even tell you how manyfootball Achilles I can even
remember, but we know a coupleof notable players in basketball
.
Kevin Durant had it.
He came back.
(17:42):
Obviously he's been well.
He's been an injury-proneplayer himself for what it's
worth, but he hasn't been hisAchilles either.
And Aaron Rodgers was somebodythat was an injury-prone player
to a degree.
Aaron Rodgers has had quite afew injuries in his career.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
honestly, Two broken collar bones.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah, I mean that man .
He had a leg injury once too,if you remember.
He came back out and he beatthe Bears that day on that
Sunday night, came back out onone fucking leg but they came
back and won the game magically.
But he's been an injury-proneplayer himself.
And then, of course, the mostnotable Achilles injury was Kobe
(18:19):
.
Now, like I said, this isbasketball, but Kobe's Achilles
injury, he didn't come back fromit because of how he was 35
years old when he had it and wasturning 36 before the start of
that next season.
Kobe went on to play three moreyears and I don't think maybe
combined over those three yearshe might have played a little
over 82 games, but Kobe wasnever the same right and he's
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one of the all-time greats, justlike Aaron Rodgers is.
And it's not too premature,because then you get to the
point to.
I think his Instagram poststold us everything we needed to
know.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Sounds like he's Go for it.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, it sounds like he's gonna come back.
I don't.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I think there are very few all-time greats who
wanted to keep playing and arelike, yeah, I'm out of here.
Like you think about Aaron'ssituation, right, first season
out of Green Bay, first drive,boom, there it goes.
(19:21):
There goes the Achilles.
Aaron has something to proveand he hasn't had the
opportunity to prove that, so Inever even think about him.
I'm like no, he's coming back,he's gonna play ball.
But hey, zach Wilson stepped up, not really kinda sorta the
defense stepped up.
(19:41):
The defense stepped up, therunning game was great and they
ended up winning the game.
So shout out to the Jets forbeing one at Brazilian One at a
time, hey, but let's talk aboutthe quarterbacks, or what the
Jets should do.
Do you think the Jets should goout and look for another
quarterback?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
They definitely need to add another quarterback, no
matter what.
I mean, I think that this weekthey're gonna be good.
I think is it something?
Boyle, that's the best that wason the practice squad.
It's gonna be up there at theback and Boyle yeah, and so I
think that they've gotta getsomething better than that
backing him up.
Because here's the thing ZachWilson got this twice last year,
(20:20):
so things could get sideways,and it doesn't help that they're
gonna probably have a reallyugly matchup on Sunday because
they're going against thedefense that just shut out the
other New York team on the road.
So I don't think that that'sgonna be your perfect backup.
Yeah, is it okay to say thatZach Wilson is gonna be the
quarterback moving forward?
Sure, give him his confidence.
(20:41):
You drafted him number twooverall, had him spend what?
Three years.
So yeah, like, yeah, he shouldbe the guy that gets the rest.
He's been there for two years.
He's had those.
He should be the guy thatyou're saying is the guy going
forward.
But you do need an insurancepolicy and you need a guy that
potentially can mentor him andthat might be even a little bit
better.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
So I threw some names at you because we're not gonna
give out hot taking names.
Looking at Tyrod Taylor.
Looking at Jacobi Berset yougot your Andy Dalton's of the
world.
You got your James Winston's.
Bring Sam back to New York.
Do you got a call, carson?
(21:22):
Mr Wentz Mr Wentz is unemployed.
You got Colt McCoy unemployed.
You know there are quarterbacksout there.
Taylor Heineke don't call abouthim because he's gonna have a
starting job soon.
We'll get to that later.
Do any of those names get youexcited?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
No, I think that if there's gonna be somebody that
you have to add, it would morethan likely be Joe Flacco,
honestly, is the first personthat comes to mind, for two
reasons.
One, he was there last year, sothere's familiarity with the
roster, everything but the OC.
There's pretty much familiaritythere.
(22:08):
Two, he is somebody that's wonthe Super Bowl, right, yeah, 11
years ago.
Yeah, I know, I know, but I'mjust saying he's somebody that
did play last season.
He's got familiarity with theteam.
So he's one of the first namesthat comes to mind.
Number two, of course CarsonWentz is gonna come up because
(22:28):
he's younger but he's made ofglass too.
So that's kind of one of thebigger issues with him.
He's made of glass but he's gotfamiliarity with there's Eagles
brass in there.
So there's familiarity all theway around with him and at least
he's younger too, he's not anold man.
And then the third person thatwill come to mind everybody can
(22:49):
see what they wanna say, but Ithink Matt Ryan would be
somebody that I would wanna talkto too, and I get it.
I think that the offensive line,obviously it was one of the
biggest issues with the Coltslast season, but I don't think
that the Colts were nearly astalented on either side of the
ball as the Jets are.
And I just think that with Mattyou do have a guy that, if you
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look back at Matt last year,matt carved up the Jaguars that
won their division.
In the division that he was in,he carved them up.
He had a game where he threwfor 350 yards and three
touchdowns, and that's withouthim being able to throw a 60
yard pass.
So I think that Matt can do itright.
Is he the most ideal fit?
No, but I would definitely callhim and see if he has any
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interest.
He's not that far remote, buthe's not that far, far away.
Is that far removed from beinga good quarterback?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
No, he's not.
And I'll say the one knock onMatabe.
He's immobile and they don'thave a great offensive line.
But the Colts couldn't run theball last year, Exactly they
couldn't pass.
Protect the Jets.
They did show the ability torun the ball.
But there's one name you forgotabout, probably Pete Go ahead.
(24:07):
Actually, there's two.
Now I actually got three thatyou forgot about One, Rob
Griffin, the third, Two, CamNewton, three, three, Colin
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Kaepernick.
Now I got a few words aboutColin Kaepernick, but before I
do that, I'm going to take adouble shot of some green river,
green river, Kentucky, straightbourbon.
Okay, yeah, go ahead, because wegot to cut the cap, we got.
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We got to cut the cap becauseKaepernick ain't going to get
nobody nowhere.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I think that the cap thing is just so ridiculous.
It's it's so unrealistic andit's people that don't watch
football that are talking aboutit.
You know that are really sayingthat this is a real thing.
I get the report of his agentreaching out and, of course,
national people.
They've got to get the report.
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So Colin Kaepernick after thelast time Colin Kaepernick
played in an NFL game, kevinDurant was on the Thunder and
Kobe Bryant was in his lastseason with the Lakers.
Kobe Bryant's been dead forthree years and he's been in it.
Before he had died, he had beenretired for five, almost five
years.
So this is not a realconversation.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Is what I'm saying.
So let me let me for one.
Colin Kaepernick, if you arepaying an agent to represent you
, all matters, fire him.
You are taking money and youare setting it on fire.
Colin Kaepernick, having anagent is like putting I don't
know 20 grand on the jets to winthe Super Bowl yesterday.
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It's just wasted money.
You're not playing footballanymore.
I hear stories about ColinKaepernick still getting up four
or five AM to work out for hisNFL dream.
Stop, sleep in, rest.
Just go get you a lift in.
When you wake up, man, yourfootball playing days are over
(26:32):
Now.
If you want to go down towherever you're living at
probably New York and join alocal men's flag league, they'll
gladly take you.
If you want to go join the XFLto USFL, they'll gladly take you
.
But seven years removed, youare no longer NFL quarterback.
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This should not be a topic ofconversation.
This is only a conversationbecause it gets impressions, it
gets clicks, it gets likes, itgets dislikes, it gets comments
because people care about cap,but we got to cut the cap.
Colin Kaepernick has no placein the NFL.
Hey, let's remember, colinKaepernick sued the NFL and
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settled Once you filed suit.
You're playing that you'replaying days were over.
Once you filed that suit, yousaid you know what?
I'll never suit up in thisleague again.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
And more.
I'm sorry to cut you off.
More importantly, I don't careto play in the NFL anymore.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Exactly so.
Let's stop talking about it.
You weren't good when you leftthe league.
You know you talk about blackball.
Do I think Colin Kaepernick gotblack balled?
Yes, Do I think he was goodenough for us to actually truly
care about it?
No, not really In the moment.
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In the moment, in the moment, Idid care and I said he deserved
to be in the league, Just likeI said Cam Newton deserves to be
in the league.
But guess what?
There are not 60 quarterbacksbetter than Carson Wentz right
now, and he's unemployed.
I agree, there are not 60quarterbacks better than Coy
right now he's unemployed.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I don't think there's 60 better than Cam Newton.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I was getting it.
There's not 60 better than CamNewton.
He's unemployed.
Hey, you know what I'm going tothrow Rob Griffin a little love
here.
When he left the league he wasgood enough to possibly be a
backup, but when you starttalking about it, somebody good
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enough to be a backup we'retalking about is.
It's like a bar talking aboutwhat are we going to choose for
our bottom shelf tequila, ourhouse tequila?
Are we going to go El Toro, orare we going to go Cuervo, or
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are we going to go I don't knowcheap tequila because I don't
drink it.
But point being is, this isn'twhat makes the money.
This is not our basic Don Julio.
You know our Teramana's, ourpatroons, and it's damn sure not
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our 1942's.
It's not our Lobos double andneho.
It's not our class Azul, right?
We're not talking about PatrickMahomes in them.
We're talking about somethingthat doesn't really make us much
money.
It doesn't change our bottomline, it doesn't change wins and
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losses, so guess what?
It doesn't really matter.
So hey, for all you superfanswho said y'all weren't going to
watch the NFL until Cap cameback, for one, y'all cut the cap
.
For all you asking to giveColin Kaepernick a chance no,
you can't leave a profession, ayoung man's profession, a
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position that requires precision, accuracy, timing, work, film,
chemistry, live bullets, and say70 years, come back and do it.
He's not going to be good if hecomes back.
It's going to take too muchtime for him to be good.
If he can still be good andhere's the thing he'll get
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everybody in that building fired.
No one's putting their job onthe line for Colin Kaepernick.
They didn't do it when he wasgood, so just cut the cap.
Cap is over.
Go do your docs, write your book, protest, grow your flow, do
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all the great things that you'redoing off the field, because
you're never getting on the NFLfield as a player.
And last thing, maybe, justmaybe, if you want to swallow
your pride and play in a lesserleague and ball it out and show
people who didn't know howserious you were about football
that you were committed tofootball, not just the NFL.
You were committed to footballand that you wanted to be great
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at football and you would doanything that you could do to
prove that you were great atfootball.
Maybe you still be playingfootball, but now you're doing
like me and Parley Pete You'redoing what you got to do to pay
your bills and enjoy your life,but you ain't getting paid to
play.
No NIL for you, buddy.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
That's a good way to put it.
I don't know.
I wonder if Cap can bet ongames.
I'm sure he can, I guess.
But either way, it's a uselessconversation, in a sense of he
was never legitimately going tohave a chance at playing in the
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NFL again for all the reasonsthat you named.
But at the same time, I thinkthat if anyone wants to look at
Colin Kaepernick and say, ohwell, let's make him a
legitimate option, okay, let'sbreak it down.
He hasn't played in seven years.
I think Steve DeBerg has therecord for the longest layoff
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between playing football and notplaying football, and I'm
curious, you know who SteveDeBerg is right.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Name is Ringsabelle.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Steve DeBerg was a Falcons quarterback.
He started some games for ChrisChandler in the 98 season.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
He was 45 years old because before Tom, I think Tom
Brady broke that record as theoldest starting quarterback ever
.
Steve DeBerg held it for a verylong time.
Vinny Testaverde didn't evenhave the record and we know
Vinny Testaverde was a guy thatjust felt like he just would
never go away.
Steve DeBerg one second.
Steve DeBerg came out ofretirement and I think that he
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hadn't played in four years andDan Reeves put him in and we
actually won one of the games.
He started two games thatseason and played for Chris
Chandler and we won one of thegames.
Now, look, we were 14 and two,excuse my language, we went 14
and two right that season, butSteve DeBerg was able to win a
game.
Now, look, I'm breaking downsome.
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I all right, cap, seven years.
Steve DeBerg for All right.
Next, what did he do the lasttime he did play in the NFL?
What was his last body of work?
What did it look like?
Hmm, he went one in 10.
He went one in 10.
And the 49ers, I think, endedup.
If they didn't have the numberone pick that year, they
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certainly had the number twopick.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
I think it was like three because yeah, because it
was right before Kyle, kyle andLynch came in right.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yes.
Yeah, because they said becausethey told him oh my god, he
just put it on the deck, TomSula.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Tom Sula.
Did he get cut him or was it a?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
well he's but I'm saying Tom Sula was the next
year, but then this is like onein 15.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
And Lynch was like hey, bro, nah, here's what we're
going to do.
We're going to cut you becausewe don't want to restructure
your contract and we don't wantyou here.
Right, and here's one thingI'll say on that.
I'll admit where I was wrong.
I was rocking out with Cap then.
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Maybe it was because I was dumb, maybe it was because I looked
at the stats that were favorablefor him, because he had some
favorable stats and they werenot a good team.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, his stats actually weren't bad.
If you looked at him.
He threw like 14 touchdowns andhe only had like six picks, so
it wasn't like a terrible I andPT ratio.
The completion percentagewasn't great, it was like in the
mid to low fifties.
But the record they didn't winfootball games, they were
getting blown out.
And that was a team that theyear before, with Jim Harbaugh,
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was still 500.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
And here's the one thing Parley Pete, I'll never
knock a man or woman forstanding up for what they
believe in.
But with that comesconsequences and you can't.
You can't shake the room, youcan't shake the tree If you
(35:32):
ain't got roots.
Now, if you got roots, you canshake the hell out of that tree
because it's on you.
When you're independent, whenyou're a business owner, you can
cut up.
Elon Musk can do all types ofwild stuff, but Elon owns the
brand that is Elon.
So Elon can still make moves.
(35:55):
He can't.
Can't nobody fire Elon.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
What you can't do is you can't come in my house and
tell me amen, it's sinking here.
Hey, I don't like what thatmirror is at.
Amen, you should use bluetoilet cleaner instead of green
toilet cleaner.
I like to piss in blue toiletsbecause I'm crimping.
Oh, hold on, hold, on, hold, onHold on what bills you pay in
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the house.
You don't pay nothing.
Oh, I pay you to come here.
Are you going to tell me how,nah, bro, you got to go?
So when you do what ColinKaepernick did, is when it hurts
.
Kanye West is a prime example ofsomebody who stands up for what
he believes in.
Unlike Cap, kanye is supertalented, super, super
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profitable.
So people put up with Kanye'squote, unquote, nonsense of
things they didn't like becauseit still was beneficial to them,
and then, when they thought itwouldn't be beneficial to them,
they cut ties with him.
And then they realized thatDita said whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa
, whoa, whoa.
Hey, hey, hey, get this.
We got to fix this.
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Yeah, but Cap wasn't Kanye,yeah.
So what Cap is, I don't know.
Name an artist who comes to thelabel but doesn't really do
anything.
Name a failed artist.
I don't.
I can't even think of a failedartist, but think of artists who
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don't make.
No, you know what?
Cap is meek meal.
Cap is meat fucking meal.
Meek meal An artist who wasgreat at one, who, who had a
good run.
Meek hit like cap had that,that, that big game against the
Packers.
That's meek dreams andnightmares.
The meat got upset with how hewas being treated in the
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industry and he wanted to changethe whole thing.
Like these labels ain't lettingme do this and this and that.
All right me, go away.
So now meek like releases hismusic on like SoundCloud.
I don't know where he releasesmusic, but he's not releasing on
DSPs and protests of industry.
And guess what?
I don't even think about meekmeal as an artist man.
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We think about him as a as a doboy, a cuck to goes on at the,
at the what's his name part, theMichael.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Rubin Michael Rubin's house.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Rubbin tugs.
Right, that's what we thinkabout me.
Rubin tugs.
Well, I said, I said, robertKraft, rubin tuck parties.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Oh well, yeah, maybe with, maybe with Rob.
That's what they're doing, butat Rubin's house they're doing a
little bit more than that.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
They're doing blowing the hookers.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I think, I think I think meek's doing a little bit
more than that, but because itdoesn't make any, that shit,
that does not make any sense.
I'm telling you, it makes itdoesn't?
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Hey, do you like that ?
Cap is meek, I freestyle thatthat's a good one.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I think that's a that's a fair rap to.
To lead comparison, I mean, Iknow we get them all the time
Right.
You know it's it's.
It's.
It's pretty sad.
Taylor Hurst just threw aninterception, by the way, after
yeah, I was.
Hell he was just like cap atthat point.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
But um, and you know Josh Hovie, he jumped out early
and drafted him.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
I know he drafted him , I think in the if it wasn't
the second, it was definitelythe third.
He was the first quarterbacktaken and Josh thought that all
of us were going to be like oh,but we were all more like what a
dumbass pick.
I mean, this was the equivalentof you taking Gus Edward.
Well, I tell you I won't.
I won't knock him down that bad, because that was just as bad
as it was going to ever get, butit was pretty bad.
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I didn't like the pickregardless.
So are we done?
Speaker 1 (39:47):
talking about cap, and can we talk about the walk
from cap?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
We're taking too much cap doesn't deserve our time
like that.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Josh Allen hey, man, you sucked.
You came out and you took, youtook accountability for your
mistakes.
Cool, I listen to Calhurt talkabout it and he's giving Josh
Allen Bell talking about SeanMcDermott, defensive coach, not
developing the O line, notdeveloping the run game, all of
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that nonsense.
No, bro, I'm not shooting JoshAllen Bell because he got to be
contract If he was still in therookie deal, if he was getting
paid 30 million a year.
Yeah, we can talk about himneeding to be a coach.
We can talk about him needingbetter pieces around him,
needing better coaching aroundhim.
And don't get me wrong, playersneed good coaches, players need
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good pieces.
But when you decide to makeyour quarterback the highest
paid quarterback in the leagueat the time, give him those big
deal contracts.
You've got to elevate stuff.
You are choosing him overpieces.
So when you choose him overpieces, he has to step up.
Three picks, one fumble, fourturnovers is never acceptable.
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I don't care if you're a rookiequarterback, I don't care if
you're a JV backup quarterbackplaying on Friday night under
the lights in Texas, georgia,florida, alabama, california.
I don't care at what levelyou're playing football on, I
don't care what yourexpectations are.
Four turnovers is never theright answer, unless you're a
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defender, but as a quarterback,four turnovers is never the
right answer.
And there's not an excuse inthe book, whether it's coaching,
whether it's telling around youthat I'm going to hear.
But I came on here I've been onhere for years saying Josh
Allen is not who they say he is.
He is who I said he was Highlytalented, nice body, nice
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prototype, have all the skillsin the world.
But he's not him.
Stop putting them inconversations with Patrick
Mahomes.
Don't put them in conversationswith Joe Burrow.
I don't know about Jalen Hurts,because the way he looking
right now they might be the sameconversation.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Well, this game.
It's a good thing that we'reeven still going at this,
honestly doing it, even duringthis game.
This game looks like it doesfucking suck For me.
I was in her Madison my runningback one RB two and fast yes,
he just fumbled.
So that wasn't a very good.
It's not very good for me, butbut Josh Allen is more.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Josh Allen is Cam Newton light.
You won't compare him to BigBen.
You want to compare.
None of that.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
He's Cam Newton light that they are.
No, I like the Cam NewtonDenlauers route.
I think it is a.
It's a mixture, it really is.
It's just because the way hecame and been yes, yeah, light,
and then Ben wasn't been wasn'tabsolved of turning the ball
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over.
And we're not talking aboutBen's last season either, we're
talking throughout Ben's careerWow Ball over to.
Like you know, I think hisrunning ability obviously is
more Cam Newton and then, youknow, ben could run in his early
day, he would run a little, hewouldn't even run him like that,
like that Josh Allen plays soreckless and like.
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That's one of the things that,if you remember, I can remember
the first time that I thoughtJosh Allen was going to be good
and it was in that Texansplayoff game.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
They play the Jalen Hertz killed out.
Here you might be ahead of me.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
What are you?
I see 35.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Okay, watch 35 and you'll see what I'm saying.
Hey guys, we'll tell you.
Like last week we got recordingbefore the game started for
this very reason.
It is not going to be the mostcoherent show, because we're
watching the game whilerecording yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Yeah, it's like they blow a little, but.
But you know what we expectedthis step back to not to not to
cut into our conversation oranything, but we kind of did
expect this to happen and in aweird way it's similar.
I think you were a little bitmore on the bandwagon of the
bill, sucking like you, not likeit, like I still had the bills
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as a playoff team, but I didhave them finish a third in the
division.
I just believe that they'regoing to have three teams in the
playoff and while that wasobviously before the air riders
saying the Jets can oh, did theyjust miss the field goal to?
They did.
What a sloppy first quarterfootball.
This is man.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
We're talking about a pick a fumble, three fumbles.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah, it's been ugly.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
You know, I think these guys on Thursday wake up
and say how can we get outMichael's off TV?
Speaker 2 (45:03):
What do you think that they say that?
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Hello, you know I don't hate out.
I don't hate out, but I thinkthey go.
How can we get Herb Street backto Saturday and Al Michaels to
retire?
We're going to keep playingterrible football on Thursdays.
Let's take him to.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Josh Allen, but you want to know what it is.
Let's blame the NFL, too forthis in a weird way.
As much as we love this, it'sbad for the players and it's bad
for the product, just in asense of we're not going to get
quality football out of a guythat just played their first
game Sunday and they already areplaying again on Thursday.
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That's two games in one week iswhat it is.
And is it really worth thoseextra three days worth of rest
for the following game the verynext week?
Is it really?
And look, this will be somethingwe'll talk about throughout the
season because we're going tocontinue to get sloppy Thursday
night games.
When's the last time you said,man, this Thursday night,
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outside of a season opener,when's the last time you sat up
and said, man, this Thursdaynight game is kicking ass.
I love this, and Al Michaelshas got to talk through it, and
then they've got to add in KurtHerbstree.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
And Kurt.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Herbstree doesn't know the NFL?
No, he doesn't.
He's out here pointing out theguys.
He's like Jordan Addison out ofUSC.
I mean, what a terrific playerhe's going to use those type of
comments, because that's what itis that he's going to talk
about throughout the game.
The first round picks.
You know, he's like JaylenCarter, looking him right there
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on the in the inside he's, he's,he's lined up in a three
position and watch how he justducks through here.
And then it's not even him thatmakes a play.
It'll be like Hassan Redickthat makes the tackle.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
Well, he doesn't know Hassan Redick, because Hassan
Redick is too far removed fromcollege football.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Yeah, but Jaylen Carter look at that three
technique you saw Americangangster, right?
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Yeah, of course you remember when Frank Lucas went
up to old boy it was like hey,hey, hey, hey, it's a blue magic
.
Don't be calling this bluemagic, you're going to step on
it.
Whatever, you don't call itblue magic, blue magic, blue
magic.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
He said you can call it blue dog shit for all I care.
He said.
He said, but this is my brand.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
And somebody with NFL needs to go and talk to Godel
and say, hey, this Thursdaynight shit is not NFL.
You can call it the footballleague of America.
You can call the foot of thethe the National League of
Football.
You see that too, yeah, butthis right here is not in NFL
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football.
Thursday.
The reserve for the freshmanand JV team at 430 and six
o'clock.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Right, you I hate to say it in a weird way you might
as well put the worst teams onThursday night.
That way everybody gets a primetime game.
Let's start there If you'regoing to continue to do Thursday
night football.
Everybody gets a prime timegame and then you know we can at
least watch bad footballinstead.
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Like it can be a bad footballgame.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
But we watch good teams play bad games.
Hey, you remember, when theyfirst started this Thursday
night football thing, they wouldonly do division games, because
the teams needed less prep time, because they actually knew
their opponents a little bit.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Yeah, I know it was a majority.
Well, yes, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
The opener was this own thing.
Then it was division games, butyou know, pigs get fed, hogs
get slaughtered, and then itfell turning the hogs.
Right now, man, like you'regiving us so much product but
you're not giving us high endproduct.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Yes, McDonald's and look, mcdonald's largest
restaurant in the world.
Literally, mcdonald's is thelargest restaurant in the world.
They're everywhere.
But what is it?
You know it's food that's notgood for you.
It can be good sometimes, likeit can taste good, like it can
taste good if we get a good gameon the screen.
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But for the most part it's notgood for you, it's not good for
the product, it's not good forthe players, it's not good for
anyone but the pockets of theowners.
In reality, we might get oneweek where we get a good
Thursday night game.
Hell, you remember last year wegot that.
Russell Wilson, matt Ryan duelthese are guys that face off in
the playoffs a couple of times.
And what did we get out of that?
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We got maybe one of the worstfootball games I've ever seen.
It was a matter of man whodoesn't turn the ball over first
is going to win the game.
That's what it turned into.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
Hey Parley Pete, matt Ryan prevailed, by the way.
Hey Parley Pete, I'll be upthere Saturday, right, mm-hmm Is
it, your family, again.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
How's that going to work?
Speaker 1 (50:06):
I'm going to kill myself.
Okay, do you think we'll go eatMcDonald's on Saturday?
Speaker 2 (50:16):
I would say the likelihood is a hell, no.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
But let's think about it.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
We're really late and we're hungry.
I mean, I've got food here, butit's very unlikely Lay hammered
and hungry.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
How many things have to go wrong for us to go to
McDonald's?
Speaker 2 (50:39):
One, it's got to be open.
Two, we've got to be driving.
Three, they've got to be.
Yeah, they've got to be.
Think about McDonald's.
They need 24 hours Crazy enough, like a lot of them are, for
whatever reason, but either waywe've got to be really hungry.
We have to be in our carsbecause, think about it, we're
not going to get in an Uberuntil the Uber driver gets on
(50:59):
right.
A lot of things have got to gowrong.
I've got to say man, I don'twant to warm up a frozen pizza.
I don't have anything to eat atthe house.
We didn't get food beforehand.
I mean, there would have to bea lot of different things that
go into.
Man, let's go to McDonald's.
It gets even worse.
(51:21):
If you've got to orderMcDonald's, I would never make
delivery some french fries to myhouse.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
Oh bro, it's the worst.
I've done it.
Why would I do that?
I've done it and it's terrible.
It's like why did I just ordertwo burgers?
Because I can't eat these fries.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Yeah well, and then the burgers probably aren't even
going to be hot.
You might have to throw them infor at least 10 seconds,
something to give it just alittle bit more warmth, because
you're like, man, this is nothot.
And then make sure too, don'tget a burger that's got lettuce
or something.
Don't get a Big Mac orsomething like that.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Oh man.
Now your lettuce is hot, ohgodly Chick-Plaid, Pick chicken
nuggets at your own peril manlike that breast.
Yeah, anyways, anyways, anyways.
Do you have anything else aboutthese?
Uh, these, uh, buffs the bills,or uh, aaron Rodgers or Colin
(52:20):
Kaepernick or the Jets?
Speaker 2 (52:24):
No man, we've got so much more season to go on.
I think let's wait and see Joshout.
He's been a turnover machine,but let's wait and see.
Obviously, I think the billsthey've been a good team,
regardless of his turnovers.
I think that they'll end upbouncing back and we'll get to
that once we get to the picks.
But um, you know they'll bounceback.
The Colin Kaepernick thing wasnever a story, and Aaron Rodgers
?
In terms of next season, we'lljust have to wait and see.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
Oh, one quick thing.
You know this podcast loves JoeBuck and Troy Eggman.
We love them.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Yes, best.
They're the best duo in theleague.
I mean it's.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
I don't think it's a conversation, uh.
But here's one thing that Ididn't like and this happened in
the Thursday game that wedidn't talk about.
And we can't get that quicklybecause we got seven minutes to
close out the hour.
Joe Buck calling an asterisk onthe missed penalty.
Joe's, better than that.
(53:22):
You know, most fan bases don'tlike Joe Buck because he's not a
Homer in football.
I can't speak to him calling aSt Louis Cardinals game, but
he's not.
He's not a Homer.
He calls it, you know, prettystraight up and down.
And him throwing an asteriskpiece piece in there like Joe,
(53:45):
joe.
This is why the fuck, joe Buck.
Shit actually trends at timeson Twitter.
Man, yeah, they, some stupidlike this Reps miss calls all
the time.
Those guys wanted to go homefor one.
They didn't want to keepwatching Zach Wilson not be good
and Josh Allen turn off, turnthe ball over.
(54:06):
It's like, hey man, let's wrapthis thing up.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
We came here for a lot.
Speaker 1 (54:10):
But again, more importantly, refs miss calls.
So we can't put an asterisk onthe game because the ref missed
a call.
Speaker 2 (54:17):
It was a grievous.
It seemed like he was doing ita lot based on the way that they
counted it could have that.
It doesn't mean you put anasterisk on it, but like it
would have been a lot of Falsestart calls based on they showed
him a multiple like I mean alot of friends.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
What's your?
I don't know what you'retalking about.
We're talking about the Chiefs,no, no, no, we're talking about
, like there was a tripping, thetripping call on the punt
return and Joe put an asteriskon that.
Now we shift to that ChiefsLions game.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
And well, tariqo put an asterisk on.
He put an asterisk on it, buthe said, like the same thing,
and that was horseshit.
I'm just saying you we can't doit.
The game got play,imperfections happen.
It's just like with baseball,right, like like they're going
to be strike calls that areballs, they're going to be ball
calls that are strikes.
It's an imperfect game.
(55:15):
We're not we're, we're human.
And so, unless you want to getrobot, you know, hey, refs and
um, I know we got robot fansfinally, but Our AI, I'm sorry,
I don't even want to call arobot anymore.
It's AI, it's artificialintelligence.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
But they're weird with the AI fan.
Speaker 2 (55:36):
That's the only way to get it, I don't know, I don't
know what it means, but youknow it's take away.
I took away from it more thananything.
Is that, man, that this couldbe a real thing?
And I think they're trying towarm people up to the idea that,
as if they haven't.
Hollywood hasn't made so manymovies on this stuff where we've
already got to see how thiscould just go so wrong.
(55:57):
Um, and I get it is so cool tobe like, wow, that's crazy, kind
of looks like a real personoutside of the metal, coming
from the metal.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
Do we want to mingle with AI?
Do you want to mingle with thepeople?
We want to mingle with thepeople Like I enjoy sitting in
my section.
Speaker 2 (56:18):
Hey you hit, you hit, you hit.
Oh, tj Hawkinson, yes, sir,what did I tell you, brother?
Hey, I told you it was a goodbet.
What did I tell you?
I love TJ Hawkinson.
At the end of the day, I waslike those type of bets.
(56:39):
I thought about changing up towhere the six pack we we start
changing and I think I've doneit kind of before but to where
literally, I go down and I giveyou the best six fix, including
stuff like this where there's,you know, player props that you
can add in.
But I know that a lot ofbetting they don't do it, they
don't do it.
To where you can play a propwith games like there's a lot of
(57:00):
weird stuff, but the TJHawkinson touchdown.
I loved it from the get go.
I love it from the get go.
Yeah, tj.
Speaker 1 (57:11):
Hawkinson.
Good pay, anyways.
Um, yeah, I don't real.
I just don't like, I don't.
I guess I don't like the Astrosbecause the game's not perfect.
Uh, really quickly, do we takeanything significant away from?
Um?
The Lions beat the Chiefs.
Honestly, I think the Chiefshad drops, didn't have Travis
(57:35):
Kelsey, didn't have Chris Jones.
They're both back.
This week Chiefs are going tobe 12 and five.
Speaker 2 (57:46):
I think that, um, the Chiefs are better.
They are better.
Uh, they didn't have their bestdefensive player and they
didn't have their best offensiveskill position player, so at
the end of the, I guess they'rebetter than the Chiefs.
Okay, yeah, they didn't havetheir two best skill position
(58:07):
players.
Oh, I mean their best skillposition player.
And then, let's let's throwthis caveat in there too Kaderis
Turni absolutely blew the game.
I mean, yeah, like he's had awide receiver performers.
A wide receiver should neveraffect the game that bad if he
did no, he had a pick.
Yeah, he dropped, he droppedthe pass that was a big hit, it
(58:32):
was a big hit.
The pick six, it was key thirddowns, it was a lot of stuff.
I mean it was a lot of stuff,it wasn't just.
It wasn't just that pick six.
Speaker 1 (58:43):
He wasn't good, had a bad game.
Hope Holds is okay, over there.
Speaker 2 (58:51):
Yeah, I was about to troll him.
I was about to tell him I waslike I'm not exciting.
Speaker 1 (58:59):
Okay, you know, I don't see those things?
Speaker 2 (59:01):
No, you just put it in the group.
Speaker 1 (59:05):
Oh yeah, see the DC.
Huh.
Speaker 2 (59:06):
Yeah, and Dale said you is making moves in all caps.
Speaker 1 (59:12):
He's funny, but uh Uh , check your text in a second.
Speaker 2 (59:25):
I guess what actually look we're actually kind of
wrapping.
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