Village Vets: Bad Boy

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, we live y'all and I'm like extremely far away
from the microphone.
But if y'all was rapping, howwould you start your freestyle?
And if you freestyle like,would you actually do like a
legit freestyle?
Would you have your bars readyfor your freestyle?

Speaker 2 (00:26):
I would freestyle if I'm going to get started, and I
would start something like Imean, you've rapped on the track
before, haven't you?
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
How did you start it?

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I don't know, I was like 14.
So, yeah, it was different.
But yeah, now I would startsuper far now, like I'd't know I
was like 14.
So yeah, so it was different.
But yeah, now I would startsuper fire now Like I'd be super
, I'd come in like super, allright now.
Like no, for real.
It'd be like something like no,Let me see, I got some good
shit.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Hey, while he figuring that out, can you give
me some of that Diddy Juiceplease?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Top him off, dane.
While he's figuring that out,can you give me some of that
Diddy Juice?
Please Top him off, dane.
Get us on.
You got to pull your own poisonWithout poison we just hand him
the Diddy Juice, that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Stop calling us that.
I mean, it's Ciroc.
Ain't that what they call DiddyJuice?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Or ain't that what they call Ciroc Diddy, juice
Diddy ain't got no ties to Ciroc, no more.
You did that, did what that itwas a gift Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, it was a gift from my bank account.
There it is.
Gift to you, motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, nah, I don't even condone though, oof.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
I can't do it either.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
It's just too soon.
No Rest of the victims.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Get back to the freestyle man.
That was a serious question,man.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Hard as concrete in the.
That's how I'm going to start.
I'm hard as concrete in the.
I wouldn't even ask you foryour first ball.
I'm just going to start, areyou?

Speaker 1 (02:00):
going to come in with the ad lib, your first bar.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
I'm just going to try to get that energy Are you
going to come in with the ad-lib?

Speaker 1 (02:06):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I'm saying, yeah, I don't have that hard as concrete
or something.
Yeah it's going to start likethat Real, you know fly, and
it's going to have that flavorwith it and it's going to be
like real Mac Daddy's players.
That's what I was going.

(02:28):
Okay, so fly, play-ish MacDaddy.
What about you, dane?
You know them days long gone,man.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Back when I used to kick it.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, yeah, back when I used to I was in the soup one
time when Dane recorded.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah you was, v was.
No, he was.
He wasn't in that studio, hewouldn't have made it in or out.
Of that studio.
We was in Me and VJ did a songtogether.
That was summer 2010.
If he would have came to thatstudio, I would have walked in
there and sat down and ate y'allfood and all that and kicked it
like I normally do.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Me and VJ did a song together in seventh grade.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
How did you sing it?

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Me, anthony McCoy, Vijay Vijay was on the hook.
I had a verse, anthony McCoyhad a verse and Chris had a
verse.
We was fine and I remember myverse.
I don't want to hear it, youwant to hear it?

Speaker 1 (03:23):
No you're going to hear it.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
You started it like this what did you say, dude?

Speaker 1 (03:28):
I want to hear what your verse will be like today as
a matter of fact, I don'tremember it all, but I remember
this.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
I think I started it off like this, and you know I
had braces on.
I'm sorry, so, uh, it was likehigh, passionate, sexist,
x-rated, I need a bad bitch,none of the average.
You know me, your number onelover, your number one cutter,

(03:56):
slick like butter.
Yeah, and, baby girl, don'tworry, if you're ever in trouble
I'll be there in a hurry.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Y'all over there making love songs and BJ, come
on the hook.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
like this, we can ride down 75 three times.
Baby girl, this is no lie.
Who?

Speaker 1 (04:21):
drive.
I don't remember who the helldriving down 75?
Who the hell driving down 75?
I don't remember.
I remember two more songs.
Dean was on which one?

Speaker 2 (04:36):
I enjoy music, bro, I ain't gonna lie to you.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
I had a lot of fun.
He was on the jokes on you.
Oh, the diss.
Yeah, the diss trailer neverwent out.
Yeah, who?
This?
What's the song?
Oh, what's about the person?
If you would write a diss trackto probably anybody, that's
three.
If the three of us did a disstrack, who would it be?
Don't say a name, who would itbe?

(04:59):
You know who would be?
Okay, okay, I got you.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
I got you I got you, I got you all right he hopped on
a diss track on buddy in 2010,god almighty oh that was like
that yeah, you crazy you crazyI'll tell you what makes that
story way more car's deal.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
But while they was recording the track, me and one
of my mans, we left and rodedown the way to pull up on
somebody and kick it for alittle minute and then came back
and it was done with the songand played it.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
One to ten, one being God, awful, ten being.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Oh, back then that band be like a seven or eight,
like it was recorded.
Let me see, it was recordedduring that summer and you
remember he aligned on y'all'sside fake, but not.
You know I'm saying like.
But then was like throwing someshit out on like MySpace,

(06:04):
facebook, and it got caught.
And then niggas like went tothe booth and just recorded got
nobody, so they were taking offon him first.
That's who they took off on theyknow.
No, no, I'm saying like no, Idon't know.
I don't remember the order ofthe song no, I'm saying who
started the song?

Speaker 2 (06:22):
who did two first?
Y'all, just them first.
No, it was us, because dean waswith us back then.
Thanks, I know, but I'm sayingI'm asking you don't know the
gifts.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, so I'm saying so at the same time that the
real popped off right with thestupid social media he tried to
pop up, pop off on some him byhimself.
They went to the boom as soonas he did.
That got nobody because youknow because here's the thing,
because on the other side it wason site.

(06:53):
Yeah, they knew he wasn't knownthat.
So it's like we ain't evengoing play around with you like
that, because you ain't.
You don't get cool points forbeating that up.
You know what I'm saying?
we'll just put you on this, whatI'm saying, and it's not a shot
to him, because if you were tobeat me and Dean up in 2010, you
don't get cool points for that.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Nah, but you might have got your ass whooped though
.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
But the point stands.
So, Dean, you still didn't sayrapping today.
What kind of rap?
How would you?
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
If I rap today, I would be.
If I.
The question was, if Ifreestyle today, I would start
off with a nice little ad-liband then a quick little punch, a
quick little one-two, and thena quick little punch, a quick
little one-two, and then I getinto it.
But you know, maybe a tripleentendre Something like that.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
You know what I mean A triple.
You got a triple on you rightnow.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
No, I don't.
Okay, I ain't got no verses inme, no more.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Alright.
So I want to flip it a littlebit right, uh-huh, because y'all
describe the type of rapper,y'all be, yeah, very conscious.
Now let's turn this bitcharound.
Let's describe to each otherWell, hold on, what kind of
rapper would I be if I came inon a freestyle?
Probably come in with crazyenergy.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Like aggressive, aggressive, like a buster rhymes
come in.
It would be mystical.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
No, not that aggressive, he don't understand
when to stop, like somebody else.
But now it would be, I thinkmine would be up and down, I
think I would do a lot ofdifferent, uh, changes in
cadence and a lot of differences, flows and stuff within the
same thing.
So more so of like moremasculine Nicki Minaj type shit,
oh so you Safari?

Speaker 2 (08:52):
No, that's exactly what you said.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
No, because my shit would sound good.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Safari did sound good .

Speaker 1 (09:00):
No, it doesn't he got the foreign crowd.
Maybe it's not Nicki and likeit wouldn't be as good as
Kendrick, but you know how hecan get in different bags, like
in and out of different bags onthe same verse, so more so like
Talib Kweli.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
No, he got a manger.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
He can go up and down , I think.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
With some ludicrous punchlines.
You know who I would rap likeStar Lito, I was gonna say Heavy
D.
That's hard.
Just imagine Lito from Atlanta,georgia, we'll just say Atlanta
.
I don't even remember what Litosound like, lito kinda calm,
but he got them Real smooth.
I don't even remember what litosounds like you know kind of
calm, but you know you got themreal smooth, yeah, awesome, cool

(09:52):
, yeah, that's a good vibe, Ithink I'll be pun heavy too.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah, for sure I'll be real pun heavy and have have
lines that like nobodyunderstands, like whether
everybody misunderstands onpurpose just so they can come
back and be like oh, I caught itlater no, they wouldn't catch
it, like I would have to explainit and then they would say, oh,

(10:15):
that makes sense.
Or, if you like, know me, likey'all know how I won't be around
people and I'll be making jokesand it only don't resonate with
everybody.
It don't resonate with everybody, but like if you know me, you
you're catching a joke, even ifit's not funny.
So again.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
So what I'm saying is and I'm gonna try, I'm only
trying to give you a title ofthe creator.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
That's a good that's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
What you're saying is special with the world.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
You wow you giving a vibe.
I don't.
I don't listen to him, so Ican't oh creator, why you don't?

Speaker 2 (10:42):
you see, you don't look at you, don't look at me.
No, I don't listen to him, so Ican't.
Oh Creator, you don't look athim as a rapper, though.
Creator 5.
No.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
I just don't listen to him, Okay, yeah you should so
.
I got turned off on that devilshit way, way back in the day
and I just never picked up anyof that stuff.
Yeah, reconvene Cherry Bomb bro, yeah, start with Cherry Bomb.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
He a jammer and he can give you, he can produce, he
all of the above.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
How would he sound?

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Me.
Yeah, he just would sound likeSouth Walker.
Nah, he would be a mix of aTexas and Atlanta cat.
I would say some of them Sauceis not far off From what he was.
I can go for that.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
One of them.
Cats mean more energetic.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Paul Wall, swim Thuggish he gonna be way cooler
than them.
Yeah, I know, but if we say90's Paul Wall, I can go for
that.
I can go for that let's say,like a Larry June, but with a
walk of time.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
I feel that I can go with a soft walker type I feel
that.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
I feel that, with a splash, that's what it would be.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
I can definitely go for that.
I wish he was on here.
Who would Rue be?

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Rue.
He could be a lot.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Rue could be a lot he'd be the game.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
I can go for that because ruhi, but then again he
could also be.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
No, he's a game, for sure, but he's a game because
the game can rap like anybody,as good as they rap yeah yeah,
yeah, but then again, that's whyI'm no, you're right, you're
absolutely right, because thenhe ain't always banging either.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
He's gonna be playing out.
Yeah, no, you absolutely yeah,like super diverse what about
y'all?
Y'all is oh.
I want to use y'all like alarry june like a larry june
vibe to show larry.
Um, but you gotta say, man, Igotta, you gotta throw some old

(12:46):
school in there because, it'sreally like a larry june with
some a ball and mjg oh, that'sshawzy all day well, and that's
kind of where I was thinking Iwas multi yeah, yeah for sure I
was.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
I was thinking like 1998 atlanta rap.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
You know what I'm saying like Kilo Ali and all
them things more.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Raheem the Dream more Goody Mob-ish like that.
Dungeon Family like that flavorsoulful.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
I see that, but I think it's more so on the on the
Pimp C Bambi side than it islike Goody Marvin OutKast.
Just because they like y'allknow, trev and his core.

Speaker 1 (13:32):

Speaker 2 (13:33):
I got 8-Ball and MJG.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
You're talking content, right?

Speaker 2 (13:38):
I'm talking about how he gonna sound.
Okay With sound.
That's why I say I feel likethat's gonna be more like the
big mode.
He's going to be able to switchit at like zero, and I mean
like.
I feel like if you, want to beone of the big smooth rapping
singing niggas.
They can, you know, still putit together.
So I say yeah, no, I woulddefinitely.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Who, who Fat singing nigga right now.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Oh it's a bunch of them.
Rod Wave no, not him.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Mo Ray, there's another one of them, big niggas.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
He's singing.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Jelly.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Roll Big X.
The plug ain't singing.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
He's rapping, why do?

Speaker 2 (14:18):
black dudes.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
It ain't Rod Wave, it is Rod Wave.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Rod Wave.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
All he's doing is singing and crying.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Singing and crying.
I ain't putting him in thatboat.
You know, I think I kicked Stan, you're talking about something
like Moe 3, they dead.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Oh yeah, hold on.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
I was thinking Big Ed's the plug, it ain't.
Boss man D-Lo.
Nah, he ain't.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
I ain't gonna hit on none of these little parlay.
Julius Randall already hit 2-3.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
I told you, you went under.
I mean, you took the under, Iwent under.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
He ain't hit.
I told you he was gonna go.
How many he gotta hit?

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Don't let me down.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Hold on.
He been working at the highpost most of at least last year.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
That big extra plug.
I learned my lesson and BaileyZimmerman.
All the way that country blendwith that rap shit.
That shit slaps.
I ain't gonna lie to y'all.
I'm a big fan of the countryrap blend because I know y'all
don't go dance places where theyplay country music.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
You don't dance either.
I got a country family bro.
I've been on that for my wholelife and I go everywhere where
it's country.
I ain't saying no lie.
I've been listening to bluesand shit like that my whole life
.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
No, no, no, no.
You ain't talking about whatI'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
No, I know exactly what you're actually outside.
You don't get to go to lodgeand all that.
You got to be outside partyingwith fucking moonshine.
That's like niggas been doingthat.
So I mean that's the onlyreason why I don't really get to
the vibe.
It's cool as hell now, but it'sjust now.
It's like too trendy for me.
It's cool as hell Just seeingeverybody want to be black
cowboys and shit see, I see Iwasn't talking about the black

(16:05):
cowboy, black cowgirl shit.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
That's.
That's different box, right, Iwas.
Uh, I was just talking aboutbeing a nigga, what they playing
this country shit.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah we, we live in carterville, so you know,
country music, bro, everywhere Igo, if I go.
What's today, tuesday?
Yeah, we go to tom's placetonight, uh for karaoke night.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
They smoke cigarettes and uh country music.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
We go to logo tonight country music, anywhere we're
gonna go, we're gonna hearcountry music.
See, unless you can change thevibe, you ain't sometimes I
can't.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
You ain't been to moonshine beach, moonshine flats
, when they playing that countryshit I don't been in nashville
to see when they playing it,though, and I'm talking about.
You know, I'm throwing my partyin nashville, right?

Speaker 2 (16:57):
yeah, that's what you told me.
So I mean, I get what you'resaying, but you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Hold on, do the white women, like black dudes in
Nashville, love them?
Okay, well, I mean Well, youknow, sometimes in the South
they get publicly, and you knowwhat I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Nah nah Before 12th.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
You know what we know I never took you down there
when we went.
Nah, you never took me there.
You took me to Limelight.
You took me to D-Lo, sitting onyour couch and putting holes in
it and shit.
Oh listen, okay, yeah, you tookme around Samaj and Big J Shout
out to them, but it wastailgate and we sitting in the
fucking room eating steak, eggs,patty, melt, shit was fine, but

(17:40):
I was trying to find some fire.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Some thighs.
Yeah, you got to forgive me.
We've been turning up all week.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
We've been turning up all week.
We can't go to tailgate.
I done been to HBCU homecomingbefore no days off.
You know what I never miss EverI never miss tailgate.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
You also never had no motherfucking steak in the air
like that, Nick.
No, I've had better.
You say that now 10 yearsremoved?

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Well, yeah, because I expanded my palate Like was I
eating like that back then?
No, all right, I was a poorcollege kid.
I wasn't trying to impress thewomen with the steak I cook.
I was trying to impress themwith the steak I'm hanging Shit.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Pass me some of that bad boy.
You want some of that bad boy?
Take that bad boy.
We calling it bad boy, I'm notcalling it that call it what
take that you ain't even broughtin the show.
I mean we was having good time.
Can I bring the show in?
Sure y'all don't never let mebring the show in.

(18:44):
I mean you're definitely on itI'm consistent, baby, you get
away ladies and gentlemen, Iwould like to welcome you to
another episode of village vets.
This one right here is calledbad boy and um, we've never
entered the show like that.
Oh, for real, we've never introthe show like that.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Oh really, no, you don't like it.
I didn't say we didn't like it.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
I mean we don't want to criticize how you're moving.
I mean I like it.
I mean you know.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
I didn't say it was bad.
I'm not, I'm not Okay Now, yes,now we got.
We got a lot to get intotonight.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'mnot, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'mnot, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'mnot, I'm not, I'm today.
And he said alcohol, weed andwomen.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
And we'll flip that for the women, for men talk
about his goddamn post, becauseI saw that bullshit and I really
wanted to to to to say what Iwant to say right now.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
There's dms but I said, no, we're doing the show
today okay, well, I approved ofthe post because too much of
anything will kill you.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Weed-looking women.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Slow it down.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because Imean it can take you one or two
ways.
All right, you might be able to.
You can chase women and win butit's going to catch up.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
It'll take you to the village vet.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
You can smoke enough weed and win, but it's going to
catch up.
Alcohol is going to catch up.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
And then you're going to be a village vet.
That was a rap.
I agreed with the words oh yeah, this nigga trying to push the
show man.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
So what it is.
I'm going to let you get rightback.
No, you're good, go ahead.
It's more so like we got.
We gotta start doing more inmoderation and, like me, I'm one
of those guys.
I party hard when I party, butwhen I chill I chill and, like I
said, lately I just been goingsuper hard and it's, you know,

(21:00):
that's kind of, that's alwaysbeen kind of like.
The story of my life is like,you know, women, we even looking
, it's like it's oh shit, it'stime to slow it down.
It's like vish, too much ofthat should have killed you.
So, yeah, you know, you're justtrying to figure it out and
slow, roast your shit and, youknow, get back to the ball game
and then you know, we all, weall at a point in our lives
where we kind of slowing down onchasing well, not you, not, not

(21:22):
you, because you're a singleman I want it all.
We slowing down on chasing thewomen.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
That's a joke.
Everything is you activelylooking.
I'm doing nothing.
I go to work, I come home.
Go to work, I come home.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Hey, can we put you on a hinge?
So people meet no.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
I don't need that shit.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
I get it out the mud, all right like that it's dirty.
Look, I'll be okay.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
But you remember what drake said about pusha t with
uh the in houston said tell them, you know we don't getting, you
know you're getting a pig pillor something.
I remember remind me you don'tget the pig pit or something.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
I don't remember.
You don't even fucking remember.
Yeah, I mean he loves me.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah, something about a pig pit hogging slop or
something.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah, I'm the sloppy one, Okay, well, get it out the
mud then, baby, but nah, butyeah, I thought that was a good
post because, first of all, notonly do kids and younger folks
and us need to see that, but ourage group and older need to see
it too.
Because I don't know.
I ain't going to lie and Iain't going to act like I just

(22:38):
changed, you know, years ago,and I've been doing this for
years, but I don't know how wekeep chasing the same thing for
so long, because that's all thatmatters.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
You chase money so you can do the stuff you want to
do.
What stuff do you want to do?
Escape from your reality andhave sex.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
No.
I mean to a certain extent,that's fact but I get what
you're saying the money.
Not like sex all the time, butI definitely get it.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
The money creates the space to where you can improve
your reality, but at the end ofthe day, niggas be trying to
escape their reality and fuck.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
I get it, but it's a way to do it and chasing women
ain't the way to do it.
You need to get you one woman.
I'm just being honest two max.
If you want two max, don't beout here just chasing anything.
Don't be out here dumpsterdiving.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Just because we get it out the mud don't mean we
dumpster diving.
It's some good shit in the mudnow.
You don't find gold, you don'tfind oil.
If you don't get mud now, okay,I ain't get it out the trash
man.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
All I'm saying is that we'll be 35 in two years.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Hold on hold on the niggas had a girlfriend 10 years
ago.
Tell the nigga who got married.
Hey, big dog, you gotta slow itdown.
You know I'm about to be adaddy.
You know I know you a daddyalready.
You know I'm about to be adaddy.
You know I know you're a daddyalready.

Speaker 2 (24:27):

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Hey, what you, what you, you know you can't relax
relax, relax, hey, you need toslow it down, you know, hey I've
been outside for a.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
You know what I'm saying I've been outside.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Hey, you guy who pretty much been locked down
five years in the house, go towork, go home, go out every now
and then doing all this familyshit.
Huh, hey, big fella, you needto learn how to slow it down.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah, no, but nasty, no, I'm just playing with it.
Though I'm not playing with it,I'll play the big show.
No, I'm saying, but I'm justsaying I, I, I.
It is time for us to no no, no,you know what I'm saying.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, it's yeah, you want totell shit is time, I mean shit.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
You just told everybody I mean everybody in
the street, whoa all right.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
well, as he told you, but she didn't know um, I will
be a father soon and you know,for the folks that love me,
we'll have a little gender realbaby shower.
But yeah, we got a baby coming,yes sir, baby D yeah.
T3.
Yes, that is so.
Yeah, we got a little few onthe way.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah, that is hey man .
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Like I said, I didn't know that this wasn't just like
public fodder because I'd haveheard you like yelling an
eldorado, and so yeah, you ain'theard me yelling at eldorado.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
I mean damn.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
No, you talk loud man , yeah, yeah, I talked loud like
yelling everybody.
Y'all shoot somecongratulations to the car, yeah
yeah, congratulations.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Shoot some goddamn cash to the cash app.
Congratulations.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Shoot some cash to the cash shop.
We'll get that on the baby.
We just talked about everything.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
I can beg for him and he can say no.
He hopes that somebody sent it.
I get it.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
It's just an alley-oop For those who ain't
never got nobody pregnant.
The feeling is amazing.
Can't wait till the baby getshere.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Just can't wait I just want to impromptu talk
about like the feeling offatherhood and we can like tell
you shit to look forward to, butthen like tell you also don't
take our advice and raise yourkid the way you want to.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
I.
I mean, of course, that's I.
I look, you know, that's atopic that I knew we was gonna
have eventually, so I'm coolwith it.
I mean, are you?

Speaker 1 (27:13):
are you honestly cool with it?
If not, we can.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
We can spit I mean, you know, I'm gonna listen but
what?

Speaker 1 (27:22):
what were you going through?
Talk us, us through, when yougot the news.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
When I got the news initially I told her I was so in
shock I thought I was doing myjob, I just had to process it.
It wasn't nothing against her, Ijust needed one day to myself.
I just had to process it and itwasn't nothing against her.
I was just like I just need it.
One day to myself, I just needone day.
So I took that day processed it, realized that, you know, this

(27:53):
is about to be the biggestblessing of my life, for me and
her, but also my family, becausethe Dean family name gets to
move forward.
My great grandmother get to seea great-grandchild.
So all these moments that's tocome right, it just made it like

(28:16):
, damn man, let's do it, let'sdo it.
You're coming huh, hey, hey, hey, let me ask you what was your
first?
Like, what was the?
I think you just I don't knowif you asked this kind of way
like the initial feeling I knowyou said once she told you, but
like what was the initial, Ijust got really scared really
fast because you know, I mean,you think about a kid.

(28:38):
Kid need to be fed, clothed,everything that we need right,
everything that we need right,um, so I got scared really fast
and then I started, you know,questioning, like well, not
questioning, but trying tofigure out.
And all this is just in amatter of you know four or five
hours what you're trying tofigure out.

(28:59):
And I gotta teach this boy this, this and this.
You know what I mean, and justhis whole.
Once she told me I kind of randown like the kids, whole life
in my mind and what he gonnaneed to succeed.
Um, do I have the resourceshere to help him?
Uh, or do I, you know, or do ordo I need?

(29:19):
Is that something I need toestablish all type of shit, but
um, is I?

Speaker 1 (29:23):
went through, but you went through.
You went through a range ofemotions like excited, scared,
and I bet you weren't totallycomfortable sharing all of those
emotions with anyone no, and Iand I haven't until today, I
ain't even told you hold on holdon before you keep talking.
Right, you've talked for a hotsecond.

(29:45):
We're going to break it up, butwe're going to get back to you,
okay.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Now how you going to do that.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
No, no, I'm telling you that because I'm going to
pull a point out of what youjust said.
Okay, but I wanted to pause youfor a second and I know, if I
tried, but if I like saysomething like rude, like that,
it's gonna make you stop for asecond look at you, but then it
allows me to explain, like, howI'm trying to steer this

(30:11):
conversation, because you'reabout to make a good point, but
for you I wanted to like break.
Break the your voice now.
Bj, talk for about five seconds, because I just talked too much
no, we're good.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
I mean, I was still listening.
I want you to go ahead and takeback up.
Finish up, all right, thank youso now?

Speaker 1 (30:26):
but but I brought it up right because somebody who's
gone through it and somebody whointentionally, like on the
night that we conceived, wastrying to do what I was trying
to do, open to having a childinside of a marriage, trying to
do all of that, you still feelall these feelings of fears like
is that the right decision?
Like do I really want to be aparent?

(30:46):
This and that.
Like you go through all of thisstuff and you're sitting there
and you're like I don't know ifI can express this to her,
because I don't want her to haveany doubts, any worries or
concerns of my initial reactions, of just what I'm feeling, even
though I'm totally excited,looking forward to it.

(31:08):
I don't want to like rain onyour parade in this moment
because you know, typicallywomen when they get pregnant,
they're fucking excited yeah, no, that's real talk my whole
thing is.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
I definitely agree with that.
But also it's like one of thebiggest things with me was I was
am I going to be a good fuckingparent?
We all was blessed to haveparents that was A1 with us,
that talked to us, that let usknow when we was doing good,
when they was doing whatever.
Are we going to be able to wearthose same shoes as parents?
Not saying we supposed to beable to wear our shoes, wear

(31:44):
those same shoes as parents.
Not saying we supposed to bethose exact people.
But, shit, can I live up towhat my daddy did for me?
Can I?
Can I, you know, can I shakewhat my mama did for me?
Feel like those two mysuperheroes anyway.
So the fact that now that I'mlooking at life and I got kids
now and it's like they look atme the same way you feel, feel

(32:04):
me.
So it's like you got somebodywho gonna always, right or wrong
, they gonna be looking at daddyand you always gotta support
them.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
You know what's crazy about that?
What's that?
You go through all the fears,right.
And I haven't talked about thison the pod like extensively and
I'm not gonna go like too deepinto it.
But you know, me and Santa areseparate.
I'm raising a kid away from me.
I'm in a spot to where I nowhave to be my dad, but I get to

(32:38):
learn the lessons from him thatI just experienced as a kid
Knowing what to do, what not totry to do this and that and
actually trying to be vulnerableto the situation and like when
you used to be the alpha dog anddon't want to show no emotion
to where now?

Speaker 2 (32:57):
but listen, but my, my baby girl gone.
Listen to him like it is, butthat should have eaten by.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
So get you.
I feel you, and having toparent through that it's insane,
because one of the reasons whyI waited so late to start
shooting clubs up was because Ididn't want to be in that
situation.
I tried to avoid it and here weare with that situation, but
the difference is he was eighthours away, that's two days away

(33:24):
.
So how do you learn how to takewhat you didn't like from your
parenting experience and bebetter?
And then how did you learn?
How do you take the stuff thatyou did like to make sure you
implement it?
And it's brought me and my dadcloser, because we actually talk
like this is what we talk aboutnow.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
But it's also oh, did you want to say Ohall?
oh, no, I was, I was just gonnaum, you know no, no it's okay, I
, I feel y'all, and you know I,I think I went through a wide
range of all that stuff too, butI, I tell you that, um, I gotta
shout, shout out my old lady,because she's a great-ass

(34:04):
partner too.
Yeah, do that.
And I told folks all the time Iwas like you know, at this
point in my life I probablycouldn't have done this with no
other woman.
You know what I mean outside ofher.
But she's given me security tobe myself in every aspect of I

(34:28):
mean like she's been to J Housewith me.
So pick me up, jarvis.
Okay, don't pick me up from outthere.
So she done seen the good, thebad.
I done hosted Juneteenth andshe done picked me up out there,
and you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Is that how y'all met ?

Speaker 2 (34:44):
No, no no, no, you don't pick me up out there and
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
no, no, no, no you don't gotta get into that, I was
just like keep pushing.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
But, um, I'm just saying from, from every part of
who I am she, let me be who I am.
You know what I mean the good,the bad and the ugly.
So I appreciate it up for that,because she done made the
transition easily and I knowthat.
You know, I know I'm gonna be agood father.
Ain't no doubt in my mind aboutthat.

(35:10):
All right, I, my main thing isthis don't get in my own way,
right, so you know.
No, or don't have too big of anego like that and that's a big
thing.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Man, like for one, I'm gonna get enough of y'all
watching the damn show while theshow is on.
But, um, but not like.
Egos play a huge role in thisand one of the biggest parts
about like not having an ego isand you know this not arguing

(35:44):
baby stuff.
That's not a right or wronganswer in the moment.
Like, I know you done wentthrough it with your baby girl.
I'm just not gonna say her nameunless you say her name, right,
you done handled some stuffwhile PZ was gone and you
figured out what worked for youand she come in telling you that

(36:05):
don't work, that don't work.
Oh easy, what's gone.
And you figured out what workedfor you and she come in telling
you that don't work, that don'twork.
You may say yeah, do one or twotimes.
Then eventually you just dowhat you do or you say huh, yeah
, and like it really have to besome of that passive aggressive.
Hey, nigga, I found somethingthat work.

(36:26):
I'm going gonna tell you.
If you don't want to do it,cool, but you're gonna have to
learn on your own right.
But it actually like helpsy'all like talk, because if they
like if she's listening to thestuff you're saying and not
trying to do it, and theneventually tries it.
It goes, oh okay, because as menthey think we don't know what
the hell we're doing, because weain't nurturing mother types.

(36:47):
But we're logical and we don'tbe thinking about the baby's
feelings.
We be thinking about, okay, thebaby's crying.
That means something is wrong.
I don't want to hear this shit.
Being honest, I don't want tohear.
So how do we get quickly toresolve the issue versus oh my
god, my baby's crying.
Are you hurt?
I don't know if you're hurt,but I just know something's

(37:09):
wrong.
So we're going to go throughthe list and try to figure stuff
out.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
But you know, so, yeah, no, we can bring that back
up, but I do want tocongratulate my dog one more
time.
Shout out Nance.
Congratulations, dog.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Hey, you know what?

Speaker 2 (37:31):
my dog one more time that out nasty.
Congratulations you know whatlet's take a shot of bad boy for
this, bad boy being a bad oldboy, why we keep doing that?
Right, I'm about to talk aboutmy boy.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
You got enough to shoot.
You don't want to shoot formoney.
You got enough for me to wantto shoot.
I mean, that's crazy, he'sinsane, he's a wild man.
Yeah, shout out, nancy.
Oh, congrats, nancy.
My first time never calling himthat, oh man, it is when the

(38:02):
Rock is in the system, ain't notelling what they're going to do
, because they don't know either.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
I'm going to tell you they might fly somebody in.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Well, they might beat them, they might lube them up.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
We're not going to do that.
We're not doing that bro.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
They might have a whole studio set up.
And they in the backgroundrecord?
Hey, no, no.
No To the left, to the left.
And they in the backgroundrecord?

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Hey, no, no no To the left, to the left.
Oh, pope might just be in thecorner Looking, but again, hey
Dino doing this right here.
I'm going to ask y'all, y'all,all doing all that?
Is any of that illegal?
Well, besides the recording inthe corner, if they don't know,
the cameras back there, besides,that is anything they doing
illegal.
Well, that is anything theydoing illegal.

(38:48):
Well, that's why they're ontrial.
Oh, no, I'm asking y'all, isanything they doing, unless if
they didn't know?

Speaker 1 (38:50):
the camera that was in that top.
Based on the information thatI've consumed about this trial,
do I think there was somepossible coercion?
I think there's possible, right?
Okay, I'm not gonna say thatthere was coercion, but I did
see him whoop my ass in thehallway right, so that tells me

(39:12):
that there's some.
There's a possibility of it.
Did he fly people in and paythem for the purpose of having
sex, which is illegal, right?

Speaker 2 (39:23):
that's illegal.
Yes, yes, what is that called?
Ac?

Speaker 1 (39:27):
I would have to look the charges up.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
It's called trafficking.
Yeah, I got you.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
I just don't want to, I just don't want to say the
wrong thing, because there is aLegal versus moral argument,
right and legally.
I think Diddy is dead to rightsLegally Morally, rights legally
morally.
The different conversation thatI definitely want to get into,
especially about the evolutionof Cassie, but I don't want to

(39:54):
rush into the evolution ofCassie part of that conversation
yet.
So what are you standing?

Speaker 2 (40:02):
I still need to see more.
I think he done man I reallymore.
I think he done man, I reallydo.
I think he cooked because Ijust so much came out with
Cassie.
I think the Don lady was on thestand either from Danny the

(40:23):
King was on the stand eithertoday or yesterday and I haven't
done my research since today toknow what went on.
But I think Diddy's cookedbecause it's just going to be
more people and it's going totie him to more things, and one
thing we're going to have towatch is this racketeering,
because I wonder what they'regoing to tie him to, because

(40:46):
that's a criminal organization,right?
So I'm thinking that's going tobe connected to somebody's
death.
That's got to be a RICO charge,yeah, so multiple people got to
get paid, not necessarily.
Hold on.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Y'all keep going, because I'm about to, I'm about
to look it up.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
I'm not saying that necessarily any Rode that has to
be tied to a murder.
But I'm saying in this sense, Ithink it's going to be tied to
a murder and I don't know who'smurder.
But I know that it's some guysthat were signed a ditty years

(41:23):
ago that said they poisoned themand got them sick.
I want to say it was like Al.
B Shore or somebody like that.
And you know, they say one ofhis sons is one of Diddy's sons
is Al B Shore.
That's a fact.
That's a fact.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Hey, so I want to throw this out here.
I want to define racketeeringreal quick, okay, because
oftentimes we group racketeeringindependently with rico, and
the ico stands for something too, and so you can be charged for
racketeering while not alsobeing in a rico, right?
So racketeering is a coordinatedillegal scheme to repeatedly

(42:05):
make money through fraud,extortion, bribery, threats,
violence or illegal means.
Okay, there we go.
So with him and theracketeering and this is gonna
sound like total bullshit tonormal, to normal ears, right,
they could say, with hisco-origin of Cassie, while
having her under contract as abad boy artist, that all the

(42:30):
stuff that he was doing insideof their relationship, which may
have been coercive, which isnot necessarily illegal, with
all the other stuff that they'retalking about, with the sex
trafficking and stuff like that,that's where the money to
profit comes, comes into,because she's also one of his
artists, right?
And if you're just thinkingabout what racketeering is, even

(42:53):
if two plus two don't equalfour, it's still equal guilty,
okay, all right, so, but that'snot morally guilty.
That's a different conversation.
Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, so, so,no no or dingus.
No you go ahead.
No you go, because I'm going tokill both of y'all.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Absolutely what all y'all are saying.
Not once has anybody said isanything that he done illegal.
Again, I get what.
You're saying that he flewgirls out, blah blah no, I get
what you're saying that he flewgirls out, blah, blah, but now
he flew guys out actually.
Well, that's boom, that's what.
Let me go back, let me hear,but what I'm saying is this is
one you said early in yourconversation real quick.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Shea is 2 for 11 they clamping this down.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
so I'm cool on that.
But earlier you said um, yousaid something.
I can't remember what you hadsaid the Diddy comment.
You said that, um, I can'tremember what you had said the
Diddy comment.
You said that I don't rememberBecause now I got lost, because
then you said something elseabout the racketeering.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Side note.
Start having a notepad.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
I should have.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Yeah, that's what I said, because it's something
that I've had to do in showsbefore it was with those.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Like I said, one, I feel like diddy didn't do
anything illegal.
I still don't think he didanything illegal besides be a
freak um, the fact that we'retalking about you saying
racketeering.
The reason I say a rico act,because somebody's gonna have to
be involved as well with it isbecause diddy's diddy didn't off
the flap sign.
Cassie cassie was an artist ofryan leslie, which is somebody
that was with diddy.
Ryan leslie, which is somebodythat was with diddy.
Ryan leslie had to pass her offto diddy before they started

(44:29):
all of that so again, they don'tmean nothing why not?

Speaker 1 (44:32):
because he eventually signed her.
Who cares so again that hedidn't sign.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
He didn't sign cassie , he signed, uh, he signed ryan
leslie.
So again, cassie was just underryan leslie.
The thing what go ahead?
Well, I was just gonna say thething about is cassie was just
under Ryan Leslie.
What go ahead?
What'd you say?
Well, I was just going to saythe thing about it is Cassie was
dating both of them.
Boom, that's where I'm going.
So, that's where I'm going aswell.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
But on the legal side , that's where you get to muddy
the waters, because they weredating and they weren't married.
You know what I'm?

Speaker 2 (44:59):
saying but that's also.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
If we're going to that, then again, that's why I'm
saying all three, all three ofthem will have to be in cahoots
as well.
If we're saying we're all, I'mgonna get charged if diddy would
get where.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Where's where I live.
We don't even know where ryanlives.
He's right, he's somewhere hecan be involved, he just ran
around literally been out for along time.
I ain't.
Ryan has been off the make, offthe menu for a long time.
He's not he's big name.
You get what I mean?
Yeah, that is crazy.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
I know exactly what you mean.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
We just ain't been talking about Ryan.
Ryan Leslie is still a writer,he's still a producer, he's
still a sign artist on therecord.
We can't really say that.
But going back to my argumentExcuse me, I'm getting
sidetracked.
I'm trying to remember what yousaid, but I don't think it's
going to work.
Is Did he?
I personally don't think he didanything wrong.

(45:48):
I think he's 100 percent.
He's a brief, absolutely.
However, we don't know, excuseme, that's what was going.
We don't know what actuallyhappened before that.
The beating you was talkingabout, how you said he beat up
when he was going through thehall, that's that, right there.
That that's assault.
We can get that.
That's a misdemeanor.
Ain't nothing major on thatquick little bomb, not?

(46:08):
And again, I'm not condoningthat.
Again, don't think I'm sayingokay, but this is Diddy.
Again, you think this is thefirst person he done did all
that too.
This is just on camera and thisis a bigger thing.
And again, I'm not saying thisis okay.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
So let's make that up .
But see you're getting intolike the moral conversation,
Right.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
No, I'm not Not at all.
No, because I'm talking legallyRight.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
then if we say he hit her, he can go to jail for
assault Cool, but when you tiein all the other stuff in there,
you're playing sex.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
I'm getting the sex.
That's where I was going withsex trafficking.
If, if that's the case, sextrafficking, that means that he
who's to say that he technicallyflew her out to say they had
sex.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
It's not her, it's the mother niggas.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Yeah, it's the men.
He's flying out to have sexwith Cassie, and the thing is is
that considered trafficking?
It's illegal when you startdoing it across state lines.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Well, no, it's illegal once you do it, Like
prostitution is illegal in theUnited States, but when you
cross straight lines it becomesa federal case.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there we go.
So you know, I mean it's onlygoing to go, it's only going to
get worse from here, becausethere's no way the prosecution
start.
Look at Perk.
Goodness gracious, perk.
They don't show that on TV.
God, almighty man, yeah, I didnot know he was that big God.

(47:38):
Oh, my goodness, um, so they umgetting a phone call.
Yeah, I know it'll be all right, but oh, yeah, um, yeah, perk,
through me, goodness gracious,yeah but now see what kind of

(48:02):
pivot is into.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Like the moral conversation, right, because I
think that's the more importantconversation for us to have.
Because I think legally he'sdead to rights, right.
But when it comes to like themoral, the moral part of it,
that's where it gets a littlebit more fishy for me, right,

(48:22):
where I think Diddy, the nastycreepy, controlling freak-ass
nigga For one he's a billionaireand I think all billionaires
are that, right, that doesn'tmake it okay.
But I also think that thepeople who want to be attached
to billionaires accept the levelof abuse that comes with being
with them.
Because if you think about anyrelationship that you have in

(48:45):
your life, right, we choose tomake to keep these relationships
parents, significant others,family, friends, all that every
day is a choice to maintain thatrelationship, right, and you
deal with the good and the badthat comes with that
relationship.
And I think where this shitgets really fucked up is and it

(49:06):
gets disgusting because womenhave been taken advantage of for
so long in life, right, butsome of these women, they take
the good and the bad that comeswith being with the popping guy
with all the money and they signup for it, even though the
actions that they're signing upto receive are illegal and they
are victims.
Right, you're a victim.

(49:27):
Yeah, but some people sign upto be a victim, for whatever
period of time.
They sign up to be a victim andinstead of just saying, hey, I
chose to be a victim Because Ilike the perks that come with
this, when the gravy train runsout, they cry victim and then

(49:47):
they want to sue and they wantto get to get back.
And I really think that this iswhat we're dealing with with
Diddy Cassie.
Yeah, the bitch, oh, sorry, thelady is a victim.
What the lady, cassie thevictim?
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Let me finish.
Cassie is a victim, but I thinkcassie signed up to be a victim
because she was okay with whatcomes with being diddy's girl.

(50:08):
You get to go to the parties,you get to look, you live the
life, you get into the lounge,you're living in this house,
getting that house, this freakoff, that freak off this drug,
all of this.
That she couldn't get on herown, which is fine.
That she couldn't get on herown, which is fine, I think she
was okay with just being thatUntil she wasn't.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
But again I'm going to ask you.
You say she wasn't.
How do you call somebody avictim who had a boyfriend left
her boyfriend for Diddy left.
Diddy went to her new boyfriend, came back to Diddy.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Like, how can we keep that?
Because I believe in Stockholmsyndrome, I believe in, I truly
believe that, like, if you, youcan impart enough of yourself on
a woman, especially when she'syoung, and he caught her in her
late teens, early 20s.
That come on, dog, we all gotone that we know we can, we can

(51:05):
always bring back.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
No cab, I mean I get that.
But again, even that personthat come back, they can't play
fucking victim if they decide tocome back.
Because the thing is like, I'mtelling you, if they already
know what type of guy thisperson is, if he did all this
freaky ass shit before and Idecided to leave him once, then
I go to somebody else who's alsoa millionaire, who's also

(51:29):
living that same life, but Ileave him as well and I come
back to the same guy who doingall this freaky ass shit, who
making me do stuff I don't wantto do, but then I leave him
again to go to anothermillionaire, but I leave him as
well.
To come back to Diddy so howare we calling her a victim?
I mean, I don't like I heary'all, but y'all don't know the

(51:54):
extent of her abuse and we don'tknow the extent of what she did
either.
We only seen a couple things.
Again, I'm not saying Diddy's agood nigga, because Diddy made a
group full of men cry on Blheadinterview, so again I get that,
I'm saying Hold on real quick.
I'm saying that that one videoalone shows you, man, that man

(52:17):
kicked her when she was nine.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
In public bro.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
It wasn't in public, it was in a hotel room.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
No, it was not in a hotel room room.
It was in the hallway of ahotel.
That's okay, that's public, allright.
It's cameras there, though, bro, if you, if you cut up out,
it's one thing to cut up insidea room and cut up outside of a
room bro.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
That right there alone shows you that if he does
that in a hallway of a hotel andthen you can only imagine what
happens at home.
So the shit that she might havehad to agree to, the freak offs
, her agreeing to that isprobably based out of fear.

(52:57):
I'm gonna say most likely basedout of fear, I'm not gonna I'm
not gonna say that.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
How can?
you know about it because but,like, because we just he he's
making, he's making a differentpoint from where we were, right,
because I'm telling you thatshe went through all of this
stuff and because she wentthrough that, no matter how you
respond, you are a victim, right, I don't look at victim as sad,
hopeless motherfucker.

(53:25):
Right, I look at victim assomebody who went, who endured
something.
You are a victim of x, y and z.
Right, we're all victims of ourdecisions, right?
That's how I look at victim.
I look at it the same way forall context, right, so she's a
victim of diddy and what it isto be in a relationship with
Diddy, especially early on, whenshe didn't know, but it became

(53:48):
a point whether because, onceshe broke away and left and
married Alex, she was able tobreak away and leave.
Right, she's been safe on allaccounts, right?

Speaker 2 (54:03):
Oh, you're talking about the civil suit.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
No, no, I'm just saying because she, like, when
she left with her husband, shewas able to leave and be with
him, right, I'm saying she lefthim with cuddy too, but I'm not
talking about but hold on, justbecause she went through all of
this shit with diddy and herbeing a victim, that's true.
But her also choosing tocontinue to be a victim because

(54:27):
she enjoyed the plus side ofbeing a Diddy victim is also
true.
So I'm not I'm not wiping awayaccountability of her own
decisions that she made because,like Charleston White say I'll
go to, I'm ready to die, go tojail, I'm ready to kill, die, go
to jail for what I believe inright.
It gets to a point to where inlife, if you don't like what the

(54:51):
fuck you're dealing with,you're either going to kill, die
or go to jail to fix it.
You're still a victim, butuntil you get ready to kill, die
, go to jail to fix something.
You're not truly trying tochange your situation.
You're accepting the good, thepositivity, the comfort that I
know this that comes with thatsituation.

(55:12):
I think she chose that becauseshe wasn't ready to die, kill or
go to jail.
She really accept what she wasdealing with and you have to
hold some accountability on thatindividual for choosing to do
that, and they can still be avictim they can be a victim if
they choose to be.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
But I seen, I seen a status the other day.
How?
In it the status said shout outmy cousin.
It said how come everycharacter in this movie, or how
come every time your character avictim, your character must be
weak or something.
So it's like I'm saying bros,at this point I'm not.
If cassie can keep coming andleaving, and coming and then

(55:51):
leaving as she please, bro, youcan't keep playing a victim role
on that.
Yes, she got beat up.
That I guarantee you.
If that's the thing, if you gotbeat up bad enough, you don't
come back to this man,especially when you already got
somebody you say you love you,he taking care of you, he,
especially when you already gotsomebody, you say you love he
taking care of you, he floweringyou, he doing all this and that
Cudi went out his way to makesure she was straight, hired,

(56:12):
new security, everything to makesure she was straight.
She left this man or, excuse me, he left her because Dog blew
up his car.
But then again I get it.
Dog blew up his car, I, butthen again I mean I get it.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
I get it, but I'm saying going back to the going
back to the regal, shit, regalregal is like I said.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
He blew up her car.
He love her.
Why would she go back?
If she's such a victim andshe's so scared for her life and
she, why do I go back to thesame guy that's doing all this?
We know a lot of people rightand she's so scared for her life
and she all this.
Why do I go back to the sameguy that's doing all this shit?

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Hey, hey, hey D we know a lot of people right.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Man answer the question.
I want to hear that.
I want to hear that question.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, but I'm trying to make
something land.
Okay, we know a lot of peopleand we know people who may not
love the relationship they're in, but they love them, goddamn
four walls, and whether it's thecar or the house.
Yeah, and they deal with stuffthat they don't like because of

(57:16):
it.
But also they entered into thatsituation very young, before
they were able to figure out howto maneuver for themselves and
prove that they could maneuverfor themselves on their own.
So they go back home.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
So are they a victim?
Again, if they're in a greatsituation and you decide to
leave this situation and youcan't land on your own, you
gotta come back to this shit.
Are you a fucking victim?
That's what I'm asking.
They're not a victim because wedon't know no that's my point.
We don't know if there's abuse,we know there's abuse.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
No, you can't go.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
That's moving the goalpost, bro.
Fuck the abuse.
We're talking about you gettingyour ass whooped that bad and
you decide to leave, but thencome back.
You can't be a victim, bro.
There's no way you can say that.
Did he ask for her to be back?
We're not going to act likeDiddy.
That don't make a fuck If youdecide to come back, you're not
a victim.
Alright, Kid Cudi, I'm Kid Cudi.

(58:13):
Look, Cassie, I got youstraight.
Alright, we over here.
Okay, Boom, my car blow up.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Well see.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
I think that's bad for his point, because when the
car blows up, she's a victim,she not shit.
Her car didn't blow up.
Connie's car blew up, it wasn'thave a fuck thing to do with
her.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
I left her V.
You leave Teezy right now andbad shit start happening to and
around you and people to andaround you, right.
And then your next day her carblow up one day, right and life.
You know it was certain shitthat you had with teaser that
you couldn't get nowhere else.
Do you go back if you're scared?

(59:04):
No, fuck.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
No, you don't go back to nobody you terrified of, but
you don't do nothing out ofyour way.
I don't give a damn what thesituation is, but what I'm
saying is is if I decide to goback, then I'm not a fucking
victim.
I can't go back to somebody IfI'm scared for my life, if I'm

(59:27):
scared for this, if I'm shakingfor that, if I got a look over
my shoulder when I go to sleepjust because this motherfucker
got some money there's plenty offolks with some chicken on here
.
He may not have a ditty moneyor she may not have a ditty
money, but she ain't gonna makeme worry about having to sleep
my eyes open and I ain't goingto play a fucking victim, no
more.
I can't worry about all thatwhen I come back in this room.
He already whooped my assbefore and I come back in this

(59:49):
room and I piss him off Now.
I know these left and rightsmight get defied.
However, I can't play a victimbecause I know what to expect.
For example, let me ask you onemore question.
Question.
Let me ask both of y'all onemore you can make it personal.
No, no, no, I don't, even hell.
No, I'm gonna ask both of y'alla question.
If y'all know y'all gotta workon a monday, y'all know y'all on

(01:00:11):
y'all last strike, y'all noticethis shit going ugly, but y'all
stay out with me till 4 30 inthe morning and gotta be at work
at eight.
Are y'all a victim or y'alljust made a bad decision?

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Hold on.
Let me put a comment in it,because in a vacuum, you're
absolutely right.
Now let's add trauma.
Let's add we grew up in a housewhere our parents stayed out
all types of the night andthat's what we saw as normal.
Right, not understanding whatcomes with staying out all times

(01:00:53):
of the night.
Even when you're in it, youunderstand, hey, I should
probably go to bed, but what'snormal to you is staying out all
times of the night, drinkingand doing all this shit and
trying to go to work in themorning.
Right, possibly getting fired.
You never know, right?
If you come from that, you aremore inclined to make that poor
decision that you're talkingabout.
And are you a victim in avacuum?

(01:01:18):
No, but you.
We don't know how much people'strauma affects the decisions
that they make.
Moving forward Now, period, Idon't give a fuck about your
trauma.
You're supposed to make thedecision that's best for you,
and you have to be accountablefor the decisions that you make.
That's why I'm telling you youcan still be a victim because of

(01:01:41):
the trauma and all the shitthat you haven't broken through,
and that's the legitimatereason that drives your decision
making, while still also beinga product of your own decisions,
making a decision to be avictim.
Some people make decisions tobe a victim, you know, we know.
We know, we know broke chickswho deal with shit just because
they can't live a certainfucking way.

(01:02:02):
Ok, it's myers, 40, 50 yearsold, ain't made a dollar, for
they fucking self deal with apiece of shit.
Ass nigga that put him in anice house or a nice
motherfucking car.
You know why?
Because the bitch love a nicehouse and a nice car.
And guess what?
She still may be a victimbecause she's a poor chick, but
she's choosing to do it andthat's why I say you still hold

(01:02:23):
her accountable.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Hey, so bring it down a little bit.
So I'm going to ask you eventhen, your character must be
weak, or something, because Iknow what he didn't fuck.
That means that still don't makeyou a victim.
I mean, I get when I'm sorryand I hear y'all saying all this
good shit, but I don't agreewith nothing.
And again, casey ain't novictim.

(01:02:45):
If anything, we need to arresther big nasty ass because she
went along with all that.
She stayed along with all themouth sores and was still trying
to party and still getting allthe points and everything,
everything that she did.
She can't keep saying bro like,and she already got the money,
now you ain't getting paid againand shit.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
I know, oh yeah, no, I think it's a money grab bro.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
She had to go to court on this because it's
federal.
It's a federal subpoena.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
It paints the correct picture of him being.
I just think everything is true.
I think she's a victim of Diddy.
I also think she's a freak whodidn't want to give up the
lifestyle.
I think diddy is guilty ofbreak, of committing crimes.
I also think diddy is a personthat people wanted to be around
and they accepted that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Yeah, like yeah, but I wouldn't say she's.
She's not a victim though rightnow she I mean anybody that it
that seems that just that onevideo knows that she.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Oh, we don't know what went on in that video.
We don't know.
We don't know what she did, bro, and that's another thing.
Have you ever had a domesticincident with a woman?

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Maybe one or two in my life With your partner.
No, I never had one with apartner Because I was just I
didn't know where you was going,okay, cool.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Now you feeling me now, hey man.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Not domestic, like I had to put my hands on.
Have you?

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
ever had hands put on you by your woman?

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
No, put my ass on him .
Have you ever had hands?

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
put on you by your woman.
No, so let me look at thecamera and say this and I'm very
comfortable in my record andwho I am as a human being hey,
women, don't put your hands onyour man if you don't expect, if
you're not going to acceptwhatever his response is, and

(01:04:49):
you don't get to dictate hisresponse, because everybody
doesn't have the same chill andcool and just because and here's
the thing men are taught not toput their hands on women, but
men are also taught to defendthemselves, and I'm pretty sure

(01:05:10):
your daddy taught you not totake no disrespect, but he also
didn't tell you to just punchevery nigga in the mouth.
Understand that if you youfollow you, you swing off on a
nigga, you might go to sleep.
And that's the differencebetween Most men's brains and
women's brains, because womenaren't taught About fighting,

(01:05:34):
because women don't fight.
So when your girl put her handson you, she is swinging on you
Like you won't hit back, becausein her brain men don't hit
women.
But you have two differentthings Fighting A person who's
been taught she is swinging onyou like you won't hit back
because in her brain men don'thit women.
But you have two differentthings.
Fighting A person who's beentaught if you get hit, you hit
back Versus.

(01:05:55):
I ain't supposed to hit mywoman.
You got adrenaline, emotionsinvolved.
You don't know what thatresponse is going to be, and
this does not.
This is not me saying domesticviolence is OK.
Men put hands on women.
But the problem is a lot oftimes women think that they can
hit a nigga in the fucking mouthand can't nothing happen to
them and there's no way for themto be held accountable.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
I absolutely agree with that.
But, like I said, we've been.
Like you said, we've beentaught that since beginning of
time and shit we got reiteratedwhen it come to even school,
like logics.
Newton's first law is everyaction deserves the opposite or
equal reaction.
You feel what I'm saying?
So, with that being the case,bro, going to the situation, bro
there's, and no disrespect toanybody that's ever been in a

(01:06:38):
domestic violent situation,don't think this is nothing.
I'm not trying to point nopoints on nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
We ain't talking about woman beaters.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Yeah, I'm not talking about women, but what I am
saying is the fact of if, whydid she just take off running
down the hallway?
I mean again, what was the real?
If we had some real backstoryon that, what was your reason?
What was in your jacket?
What was?
What did you take off with?
Like, why did Diddy come out ofthe shower with a towel on

(01:07:06):
again, when he had all hissecurity going, but he
specifically came for you byhimself?
It's like it's so many morequestions.
Why the hell she can't leave?

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
She can leave but what do you have with you?
But he left, he I mean, that'sa thing that I've never thought
about, that nigga did leave witha towel.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Come on, bro, this Diddy bro, I'm like and again,
what did she take with him?
And?

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
again, I don't know and I'm not saying, I'm not
giving Diddy a pass- Not at all.
But I am saying that you justdon't run out of a room in your
towel, and maybe it's just he'sthat damn controlling, right.
That could be the answer.
It could be that for sure.
But I'm sure, but I don't, Idon't know, you don't know the
man.
So you guys know that you put injudgment on the wall really man

(01:07:47):
, y'all y'all watch making theband, just like I watched man on
15 years, 20 years okay, Ididn't watch it he just made the
worst thing I seen him make go,walk or walk.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
The brooklyn book, that's the word.
That's learned man, listen.
The thing is, if I can make nolesson learned in that no,
that's it.
No, no, I can't no hold on holdon how much do you, how much do
you really want?

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
you know, I was in the military back in the day,
right, some of that shit thatyou make motherfuckers do it.
It's about a lesson learned.
It's really about a lessonlearned.
You really let that person bumpthey head a thousand times.
Yeah, I'm not going to stop,Nigga, I'm rich homie.
Just don't just step over thesecourts, Be careful.

(01:08:36):
Oh, you want to plug your phonein?
It's right there in the damnyeah, unplug that shit.
Yeah.
But like some of the damn yeah,unplug that shit.
Hell.
But like some of the lessons wemade people learn, right, it's
not on me.
Nah, you just let them keepdoing that dumb shit because,
yeah, you need to learn, yourfucking lesson After.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
they already made the band, so they don't want to do.
Plenty of your little game, oh.
I didn't watch the show so Ididn't watch the show, so I
don't know.
They had already made it.
They made the band.
This is actually the actual manand they gotta go walk blocks,
can't order can't take a cab yougotta walk.
Yeah, it's a control thing ohyeah, he's cool, it's a, it's a,

(01:09:16):
it's a control thing to let youknow who's superior.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
All right well, did it superior?
Take that, take that all rightthat same applies to his
relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Don't think it, don't , bro?
I agree with you, all right, Iagree with both of you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
See let's not.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Let's not even speak about her.
She's not here, right?

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
now I, I, I know where you're going, but let's
not, let's not even speak abouther, because that's
disrespectful.
But let's not even speak abouther because that's disrespectful
well, no, hell no, because yousaid her fucking name.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
My thing is one thing that Kim did do.
I can say this if y'all ain'tnever read the book, it's a
great book, allegedly she didn'twrite it.
She didn't write it, so nowchange my whole story up on
everything I'm saying.
If she didn't write it, thencool, but if she wrote that she
told a bunch of dark-ass storiesthat probably should be out.

(01:10:11):
If Diddy was like that.
However, we ain't got no proof.
This fact should be.
It was never happening.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
Now, In fact so that's my point and to kind of
circle out, to kind of put aball on this one, the hardest
part about this is and I thinkour conversation was reflective
of it there is not a solid linethat we can draw on how trauma
affects people in doing thingsthat they would not normally do,

(01:10:41):
versus them getting to a pointto where, yes, you've been
traumatized by this but you'vealso been given the time and
space to recover from this andmove forward.
And society just hasn't drawnthat standard.
Because if you think aboutDiddy, right, you think about R
Kelly I'm going to get into thepeople we don't like.

(01:11:03):
These guys are alleged victimsof the same, of some of the same
things that they're guilty of,right, but because they didn't
get caught being victims, theyget to.

(01:11:24):
They get caught committing theactions that were done to them
and there's not a societal lineon where this stuff stops.
Because, dog, right, if you afucking, if you a fucking super
creep, not like a freak, right?
I think freak is legal creep.
If you like a super creep, youdidn't become a creep for no
reason and something in yourlife made you that way.
Because nobody wants to dothings that go against the

(01:11:45):
status quo, right, nobody wantsto be weird, but creeps are
fucking weird.
But something happened to thatcreep somewhere in his life that
he or she was not able torecover from.
But we, we can't draw, we don'tknow where to draw that line.
And you can never draw thatline because, at the end of the
day, bro, like right is rightand wrong is wrong, and we

(01:12:06):
choose to draw the line ataction, not thought or anything
that led you up to the action Ithink we need to keep watching.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, um, and I think that you know,
I was trying to close out justso we could tie in the Tory.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
Hold on now Messed.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
He don't like letting somebody else close out a topic
.
It's like he got to get thelast word.
It's like, bro, I'm about tothrow this next topic to you
because you are like damn nearthe Tory lanes.
You know what I'm saying, youknow what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
I ain't no damn Tory lane.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Short big head, yeah, I think so.
All I ain't no damn Tory Lanez.
Short big head, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
I think so All right.
Maybe, you know, stay around.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
But I was trying to like get to Tory Lanez because
we stayed there too long.
But we got new information onTory, and similar to this Diddy
piece is a lot of people havetheir minds made up and evidence
doesn't matter.
But we have Tory's legal teamcome out and make a statement
and Kelsey's former bodyguardcomes out and says that she just

(01:13:12):
couldn't hold it down, he justcouldn't, he couldn't, you know,
and he came out and said thatKelsey admitted to firing the
weapon.
And then from that, with thatinformation, before that
information came out, theyreached out to Meg's side,
tori's side, all of that forstatement.
Tori gets stabbed 14 times,speedy recovery to him, two

(01:13:33):
collapsed lungs by a killer inprison.
But some are even speculatingthat because they tried to get a
statement from Meg's side that,uh, her, her people, her
handlers maybe called somethingin.
I'm not putting that on them,I'm just saying what's out there
, right, uh?

(01:13:55):
But now this has become a topicagain.
Meg did another long story post.
I don't know if y'all saw it, Ididn't read it, uh, but pretty
much saying stop making merelive this moment.
And I have comments on thatbecause I think it's pretty
short-sighted if, if he islocked up for something he
didn't do and well, he locked upfor having a gun and I don't

(01:14:15):
think he was ever convicted forshooting me no, he was convicted
for shooting the gun, having ashooting gun was it?

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Was it in New York or somewhere?

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
No, it was in LA.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
He's not from the States.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
So he ain't supposed to have a gun, yeah, but like I
think and I heard somethingabout this and it was like and
this is my personal stance, apro-Tory stance, because I don't
think Tory shot Megan, I don'tthink he did anything ill that
night besides try to fuck KylieJenner in front of Meg and

(01:14:51):
Kelsey who he was fucking.
But that's okay, it's notillegal.
I think that he was trying toprotect black women while also
trying to protect his own brand,and it got him 10 years.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
Come on, dan, I'm going to let you go back on that
.
I'm trying to figure out.
How was he protecting blackwomen?

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
He tried to stop Kelsey from shooting Meg.
He didn't say what happened.
By not telling on Kelsey,that's protecting two black
women.
And then the way he was tryingto protect himself is he knew
that he could not function inAmerican hip-hop again if he
would have told the truth and,quote-unquote, snitched on

(01:15:36):
Kelsey.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Well, I mean it's stupid.
It's stupid on his part.
That's not, that's idiotic.
But go ahead.
You think you can't bounce backfrom something like that?
But yeah, I mean, I thinkthat's the dumbest shit he's
done in his life To not tell thetruth about what happened.

(01:16:03):
And he still was going to servetime for shooting the gun.
But that's just dumb, bro.
Worry about yourself, Take careof your own future, your
reputation.
It don't mean that much.
It don't mean that much.
Tell on that girl that she shotme.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
But I mean don't mean that much, tell on that girl
that she shot me, and but I meantalking to the mic, talking to
the mic that he shot.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
All right, yeah, but meg was, meg was drunk, and she
don't know what happened oh megmade multiple statements that
that leads me to believe thatshe doesn't know what happened
okay, well, yeah, he shouldprotect himself because at this
point in his career he the asset.
Alright, you gotta take care ofthe bag well, let's talk about

(01:16:55):
now, right?

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
so do you think this new information means anything B
?

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
absolutely.
It take more to shine a way towhere they need to free Tory and
they need to figure out what'sreally going.
Where they need to free toryand they need to figure out
what's really going on.
They need to redo that trialfor it don't, it don't mean
nothing.
Now he's which I mean he got 14stab wounds, no I definitely in
prison but again, that's thereason why he need to come home,
because again it's gonna be 14more.
He may not make it the next timewell, because you gotta

(01:17:22):
understand this and I'm notsaying I'm not saying that that
that's what it was that wholelittle stallion train.
I ain't saying that's what itwas that got him gone, but I am
saying that you know, it's abunch of folks that could put uh
tory's life at risk, especiallybehind that, if he didn't have
nothing to do with it, if hedidn't have a thing to do with

(01:17:42):
it.
And I'm not saying kelsey hassomething to do with it, but
that girl got shot one way orthe other.
That girl got shot.
They got to figure out whoreally done all that.
I'm saying this is the lesson Imean, I guess, for him, but for
anybody is trying to plansomething that they didn't do,
or or you're trying to defendsomebody for whatever reason.

(01:18:06):
Make sure that people can hold,can be accountable for their
own, because now this man islaid up in the hospital bed with
14 stab wounds.
He probably shouldn't be therein the first place If he just
tell the truth about whathappened.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
Why don't we take fake street rules out of hip-hop
?
Because, because you can't, no,yeah, oh, hold on hip-hop.
Hip-hop is corporate, it'scorporate, that's corporate
america, future.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
Don't even do drugs I .

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
I don't know what future does.
I know he says he doesn't, butlike I don't know, man I'm about
to say you got me fucked up.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
I I'm never believe it.
Maybe, maybe now.
I I mean maybe back then.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
Oh, maybe now.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
His future.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
We also have a future down to 45.
Okay, he down to 50.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
He may have to slow it down, but the fact that we
saying he don't do all, he maynot pop personal, he may not do
lean as much, no more.
I guarantee you he's stillrolling up.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
I guarantee you that ain't drugs.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
Y'all not going to fucking keep moving the goal
post.
Y'all said he didn't do drugs.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
He's not doing, no drugs.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
He's not doing no drugs.
He's not doing no pills.
We ain't over there, man.
We just lost Scooter too.
Man, come on with the game.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
This is different bro .
He probably in the man.
Come on with the game.
I'm pretty sure Don't say y'all.
I said I don't know what futureis.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Well, my thing is like I say we done really lost
folks that we cared about.
Y'all know how tuned in we donehad to get to shake them nights
.
All three of us, we all donebeen there.
So again, like I'm tellingy'all, y'all, we ain't gonna say
that man, Come on, now I can'tjust say future of Scooter,
Nobody ain't doing what theydoing.
You know this shit been toughlately, so I can't say that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
Ooh, my collar look real de monté.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
I forgot.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
We ain't been able to see ourselves the whole time.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
Y'all didn't tell me my color no.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
You look real janky today.
You look like Miles Turner.
That's a little like a yeah.
Yeah, I'm in.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
I didn't get the shower before the show man, so
you didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
That's all right, I don't care, I don't care, I
don't care if y'all think Ismell good, but no.
I wish Rue was in, because nolie to your funny story though,
and we can get back to that.
But the funniest story we wentout like.
Maybe eight years ago, me, deanand Rue we went to.
Do you remember where the fuckwe was at?
We went somewhere in the cityand Dean wore them open-toed

(01:20:43):
sandals.
It was some dude that walks inthere.
He said, hey, and dean, word ofopen-toed sandals.
It was some dude that walks inthere, he said.
He said hey, boy.
He grabbed dean on the shoulder.
He said, hey, boy, you thebaddest in the club walking.
Then he got a bit sooner.
He walked in.
He said you, the baddest in theclub walking with these
overtoes right through here.
Then we end up coming in aparty.
We stayed for maybe 45, 30 45and got there long they're like

(01:21:06):
boy, you a bold.
But I'm my open toes.
It was college night, it wasthem black open toes.
I remember the ones I rememberwhich one they were.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
I remember he wore him to san diego.
It's funny because I got thispacers jersey on and and we, it
was the night before we went topay.
Now, the night before we wentto Pacers, yeah, yeah, pull me
some of that, did you still know?
I need some of that?

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
that's enough, not in some of that did you get your
sign me out, they go so.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
So here's the thing, right.
So it was one of these nightswe out it's me and Dane we had
popped out to PB, you ain'tstaying here, but nah, so we.
You remember when me and Luigiran that mission, right?

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
So AC and his little friend Luigi, hey, they went and
ran a mission.
You know, luigi, is he a shrimp?
Hey, hey, hey bottom feeder.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
Hey, but hey, but we gonna, we gonna watch, we gonna
watch.
This respect on my man that'smy guy, all right?

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
no, hey, I'm just saying now hey did he?

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
hold you down in san die.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
He got me right.
Okay, no hell.
No Fuck Luke.
No D you right.
No, fuck him.
I know he was the one who wasdoing that bullshit when we got
that ump and then he messed upmy ear.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
He got rude right Then on top of that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
Didn't realize y'all I can talk for you.
Didn't realize y'all gauze upthere with them three dollars.
At the time I said, oh my God,he ripped up a whole good gauze
to put all that dumb ass yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
You know I wasn't involved.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
I was trying to figure out why Sam was in my
bathtub.
No cap yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
I wish y'all would have recorded me cussing it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
You know, and that was before the time, that would
have been a good time to justkeep recording, to keep the
camera rolling Cause you acted aplump fool that night.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
I don't think I done got that Pissed off since Nah
since.
But nah, man, what the fuck wasI?

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
talking about?
I want to talk about it because, again, since we talking about
oh no, I was talking about itbecause, again, since we talking
about- oh no, I was talkingabout his sandals.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
When we ran that two man shorty asked me about your
sandals?

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
oh, the big one, or yours?
What she saying?
This was the big one too did Ihave a big one.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
He said the big one, yeah, she was yes, here's the
thing, right, so the big one, no, yeah, so so we, we went out in
pb because we was out with, uh,the group we went out with the
night before, yeah, because Iwas trying to run.

(01:24:22):
No, no, that was the night thatBuddy fine ass girlfriend Was
like I can leave with Adam rightnow.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
That's the night before.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
No, no, no.
That Friday night Cause Fridaynight we stayed at Wendy house
and you was up talking to Lobosall night, yo, and we drank all
day looking yeah, that wasFriday.
Then Saturday night we went outwith the fine ass one yeah,
okay, they got to argue, andthat's why we left yeah because,
remember, she said you couldeven buy me a drink while I went

(01:24:52):
to the bathroom.
Every guy in here will be readyto buy me a drink and take me
home.
I could ask adam to take mehome right now and he would.
And I looked at you and waslike, hey, we got to go because
I'm cool with him, but I'll takeher home, but nah.
So we end up going down Like wego downtown because that's
where Airbnb is, and I'm like,hey, bro, we just going to park

(01:25:13):
in a lot of pimp.
We hear Ouija just out theretalking.
So I just walk up Stick man,stick man.
Yeah, that's me, stick man, yeah, that's me.
Stick man, stick man.
Big baby, what's up Adam?
What you doing, adam?
What's up Adam?
You gotta understand.

(01:25:34):
He was the first nigga I met inSan Diego and he was trying to
get on some something.
So I'm like, hey bro, fuck withme, I'm out here trying to get
on some hoes too.
That's how we got cool and thatwas really the extent of our
friendship.
I, that's how we got cool andthat was really the extent of
our friendship.
Like, I mean, we got coolerafter, but it was we niggas in
San Diego, where there's notmany niggas and we're trying to
get a host.
No, but working.
So, he was working, but thatnigga's working overtime,

(01:25:56):
getting paid less than minimumwage.
Right, he wasn't returning.
So I go start talking to Shorty.
I'm working.
I'm working because the I'mworking it because the Shorty I
ended up bagging.
I pulled off him because hewasn't talking to a big-ass
friend, so I'm talking to herworking it out.
You know, she actually workedfor the Cucamonga Crocodile
Killers and I'm trying to putDean on a friend.
I'm like, hey, fuck this nigga.

(01:26:17):
Like we're going to run it.
Ain't nobody going back to theAirbnb?

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
No, nigga, I ain't talking to you.
No, man, I didn't do it.
Hey, you seen Friday.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
I know I didn't say that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
You know, nigga trying to get you to believe
you're Janet Jackson.
You should have did it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
No, you got to look like Freddie Jackson.
Oh yeah, no, no, no See, here'sthe thing I wouldn't have.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
That's why I didn't do it for you, but you had your
one.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
You had your nut.
We ain't gonna talk about myman's like that, but you know
what he do things I wouldn't do.
That's why he good to have.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
Well, you know, let's move along with this freak shit
.
Since we're talking about allthat Tory Lanez shit I want to
talk about, y'all heard aboutthe guys from, or all seven of
the guys, the fugitives thatescaped from New Orleans, right?
Well, didn't one of them getcaught?
on a bench, four of them gotcaught, so you escaped and then
you get caught on a bus bench.
Yeah, I mean, the thing is yougot to remember.

(01:27:18):
I get it stupid, but it's likeI think four out of seven had
life sentences.
I don't know who got caught,but I'm saying so you go to a
bench?
No, you just get.
The thing is, when you get somefree time, you got a free
chance to get up out of there.
I'm going to take my first Jaketoo, if I can.
You know it was one that wasgetting out in like three, four

(01:27:39):
weeks.
See, now he's the fool.
He's the fool, he deserveseverything that come with him.
That's right.
But the fact that the one Ifthey give him the chair, I
wouldn't be mad at him.
But the ones that looking atlife and all that good stuff,
hell, no, yeah, I'm going totake my I ain't saying I want to

(01:28:03):
do all that.
But again, because they're Idon't give a damn how bad you is
.
Ain't nobody trying to sit bythey self?
Ain't nobody trying to be bythey self all goddamn day in
that room by they self.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
Put me in population, put me in population.
How many on?

Speaker 2 (01:28:18):
that got caught.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
But Vlad said he'll interview the free ones?

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
Yeah, three or four, if I ain't true.
But Vlad said he'd interviewthe free ones.

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
Yeah, of course he would, but he also said he
wouldn't tell him.
So that's tight If you can gopicture this.
What he said made sense.
But what he said made sense Ifyou go do it, if you one of them
seven fugitives and you go doan interview about it on Vlad's
platform.
Man, please, your legend liveforever.
Get, go do an interview aboutit on Vlad's platform.

(01:28:44):
Man, please, your legend liveforever.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
That nigga is 7,000.
I mean, cool, it ain't aboutthe money.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
It ain't even about the money, no more.
Because again you going toprison, you getting caught,
regardless, regardless yougetting caught, even if they
don't do the Vlad interview,they getting caught, they
blasted everywhere.
Go get that little money, goget that little recognition,
Because again now, when you comehome, now you got some money
lined up.
Because again, if you get aVlad interview after you just

(01:29:14):
escaped, now you got him sittingYou're going to do and maybe
they think you they ain't likethe nigga can write a book.

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
Vlad ain't going to give them enough money to do
nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
It ain't about getting you ain't coming home.
Why you not?

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
You got broke out of prison.
It's 10 for prison.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
You only get an extra , I think.
What was it?
15?
10, 15 years Between 7 and 15years.
That don't mean a shit.
Niggas, do 30-year marks andcome home we.
That don't mean a shit.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
Niggas do 30-year marks and come home.
We can't do that you know what,but here's the problem.
I get it, but here's theproblem.
Here's the problem.
When you go to Vlad in LA, newOrleans, la, we crossing the
straight line, state line.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
I get it Again.
If Vlad get you over there, heyover there.
Hey, man.
But again, that don'tnecessarily mean he got to get
you over.
He can get you on the phone.
Hey, ac, what's up?
You want to talk about this hatyou got on?
Because it really ain't you.
You ain't never listened totupac album in your life.
You ain't culminating.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
what the is talking to like what's wrong with you,
like what's wrong with you, like.
Just because I don't talk aboutmusic, just because I don't
listen to music on a daily basis.
Please understand that.
The music that I need to listento, given my age, and the music

(01:30:38):
that came out during my lifeand the music that probably came
out before me.
I've listened to that music.
Talk about it now.
A lot of it I don't listen tobecause I'd rather not listen to
it, but no, I've listened to it.
I fuck with tupac.
I think tupac is a great artistand I honestly model my, my
podcasting after tupac.

(01:30:59):
You have to be stupid so theseniggas will understand the
higher level shit you're tryingto teach them.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
That sounds like Charleston.
White.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
Yeah, it came from Tupac.
What the fuck do you thinkTupac was?

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
Okay, I hear that.
I hear what you're saying.
I get Charleston White'splatform too, but you brought up
Charleston White.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
So don't compare anything I say to Charleston
White, because I didn't bring upcharleston white because that's
the same thing he.
He would say, though, about hisplatform I, I got you but, like
, because I didn't usecharleston white as the
inspiration, because I came upwith this inspiration before
charleston white was known like.

(01:31:43):
Now we we compare it to tupac.
We, that's, that's where westart, because I'm telling you,
I took it from tupac okaysophisticated ignorance that
came for me didn't come fromkanye, it came from tupac.
Okay okay, okay.
Yeah, nigga, like, look here Ishit on, like on, like that cool

(01:32:05):
modee and that LL Cool J assshit.
Because I listen to and I go,hey, you know what these niggas
can really put words together,but like their rhyme schemes
were so basic that it sounds badto my ears.
I ain't saying they're badrappers, I just don't want to
listen to that shit you wasn't abig fan of that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
it's the weedy, weedyedy, weedy Mac Daddy.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
All that good shit you didn't like all that when
Big L, big L, young Jay-Z yeah,because them niggas was actually
like they were a few yearsafter them niggas I'm talking
about the 80s rap niggas, can Ibe?

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
a real nigga with you .
I hated that shit.
I still I ain't never likednone of that.
Even me, being a J fan is toughbecause, like I say, uh, I'm
trying to think I gotta go backin.
This is my favorite Jay Z songof all time and it's, it's crazy
to say, is uh, I just fuckingwent blank on the song.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
You want to hear something funny about my
favorite Jay-Z song.
What's that that whole story wewas just talking about with my
man in San Diego Because I gotthe I'd rather die enormous than
live dormant tatted on my armfor my favorite Jay-Z song.
That was in her Instagram bio.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
That is there.
Well, yeah, no, that's what I'msaying.

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
It's like certain with those, just it's like it's
I think you was right, though,once she said oh my god, that's
my instagram bio.
You already knew what time itwas.
I didn't know.
Yeah, come on.
Huh, why no, not yet.
Okay, I wouldn't tell nostories in between the, the gray
area.

(01:33:42):
I'm talking about shit.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
This is our second time in San Diego.
Okay, I know where y'all wereat the next night we was here.
With her.
Yeah, with that.
One Took her to Denny's, boughther whatever she wanted Steak
and gravy.
Steak and gravy Big old ass, Idon't remember what she wanted

(01:34:05):
Steak and gravy.

Speaker 1 (01:34:05):
Steak and gravy Big ol' ass Hell.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
I don't remember what she ate.

Speaker 1 (01:34:10):
It didn't matter what she ate.
Hell the motherfucker atebefore she got to.

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:34:16):
But I showed Dean a good time at Pace's I still had
some juice in there back then.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
Yeah, you showed me a good time.
Pace was alright, man.
The only thing I regret is notgoing to the other side.
What was it about?
I can't remember.
The other side, yeah, the otherside, because it's two sides of
the place, right.
So you walk in and then you gotlike a pole here a stage there

(01:34:44):
and then it's a whole anotherlittle area on the other side.

Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
It calls to go over there.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
Yeah, they probably Good time.
Yeah, who knows what goes on.
I don't know I ain't never beenon the other side.

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
I ain't never been in a shot.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
Because they even got like the dance room on this
side.

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
They got the champagne room up there, so you
walk in, you got a stage here.
That's a trash stage.
You never want to go there,unless it's Friday or Saturday
when it's packed in there.
You might see a shorty backthere, but not really.
It's the main stage, right?
You go up there.
When shorty up there, you siton the main stage, go piss
because I'm right behind you,paul, and then you got

(01:35:23):
motherfucking the other seatsright.
And then he talking about thelap dance area.
Okay, I got you, so like youknow how in the cities you can
get like lap dancing over.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
And it right there, wide open.

Speaker 1 (01:35:33):
Yeah, see in Cali, you go on the back.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
That's what I don't be liking about all that shit.
I like to sit right there.
No, you don't, no, you don't.
You didn't like the back napthere.
You didn't see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
Depending on who you with and security posture.

Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
Yeah, touch of genitals is what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
I didn't say that.
I'm just saying yeah, touch ofthe genitals oh.
God, you see how he tried tocall me on that Tupac shit.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
That shit was funny and I like it.
He looked at you and said nigga, you don't know nothing about
no Kaluma, I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
I like when Nance get like it.
And then he said it on theplatform inspired by what Tupac
Stewart was for.
Hey, we want to reach blackpeople.
We realize all this consciousshit.
Niggas don't want to hear thatshit.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
There you go, there you go.
He about to bust that door up Iwanted to check.
I feel like the last couple ofweeks, though, we'd have had the
conversation that I have beenwanting to have, especially, I
guess, the deeper side of ourdynamic, and folks can start

(01:36:43):
seeing like how you strugglingwith that.
Oh, that's how we had that20-year conversation last week.
I think like seeing when folkscan see y'all two arguing and
shit on live, that alwaystickles me because everybody see
like y'all, you and him, likey'all you get on my nerves.
It's literally an everydaything.
You get on my nerves when wedon't be on camera.

Speaker 1 (01:37:04):
it's actually worse oh yeah, cause if we ain't on
camera, stop being so loud.
If we ain't on camera I can saythe disrespectful shit that's
like that.
Like people can't hear causelike if I said it on camera it's
no fun.

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
Yeah, don't act like you, the only motherfucker that
can get disrespectful.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
No, no, no, no we both have disrespectful ass
moments with each other, thatlike if that shit happened on
camera and we had to go outsideand hear that shit, it would
fuck up our friendship theyprobably yeah, cause they be
like damn.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
He talked about you real bad, but did you hear what
I heard what I said about him?

Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
yeah, like, and it would be shit like that and that
be the shit, right, they gonna,they gonna be nice about it.
But, dog, if I see you out,tell me like.
I like I appreciate the supportfor the show.
I really do.
Oh, here we go why you alwaysdo this because I don't want to
talk about the show when I seepeople.
Okay, well, people going totalk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
I want to talk about regular life.
Hey, hey, one thing they'regoing to say you to do bring it
down, because you up there andyour blood pressure through the
roof.

Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
I'll tell you the great thing about recording in
your own home.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
You can be as loud as you want to be.

Speaker 1 (01:38:12):
Come on man.

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
Speaking of loud.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
let's talk about the conference finals that I need to
turn back on.
I'm going to piss real quick.
Go piss.
Yeah, you go ahead, and whatwe're?

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
going to do is we're going to like, yeah, we're going
to parlay and bullshit whilehe's pissed and I'm going to
piss.

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
Hey Dinky, you hold it down by yourself.
I don't know if you can, soloDon't worry about that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
Alright, you solo, because I'm about to go to the
Josh ADN.
It's for real.
Jarvis in here, what's up?
What's up?
Family Y'all all right, allright.
So we got OKC and Minnesotaplaying.
I got OKC winning.

(01:38:56):
I think they the more completeteam.
You know you can get caught upin that Ant-Man shit if you want
to, but SGA is the MVP of theleague.
Man, come on and they got abetter team around them.
They just small compared tothem.
And if Minnesota going to playthe 3 and D game, they're going

(01:39:20):
to lose.
Every time Julius Randle donehit five threes in like for what
he need to be working out thepost.
So I got OKC and six.
What's up V?
I'm just telling the folks thatyou know if we want this, if
Minnesota want to win, they'regoing to work out the post, the
high post, with Randle and Reed.

(01:39:43):
And you know you can't shoot1,000 threes a game.
You can't do that.
You're going to lose their time.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
So with that, who do you say you had, I got?

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
OKC winning, okc winning it all.
Yeah, that's what I got on,that that's what I got winning.
Well, no, hell, no, I'm Kevin,well, I Hell, no, I'm Kevin.
I got Minnesota winning it all.
I just felt like right now,it's just right now, it's Shia,
he's giving me that old, thatKobe shit, that's what I'm
telling you.
We seeing too much of Kobe gameright now, but then again a lot

(01:40:17):
of folks keep saying we seeinga bunch of MJ and that other
young boy from Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (01:40:22):
That's the only thing I got totalk about.
I ain't seen.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
MJ, like that you haven't.
Uh-uh, I'm seeing like moreLeBron Oof Because he passing
them.

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
He passing that bitch out.
I will see that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
He been passing the ball all playoffs and then he
have episodes where he gone buthe making the right play.
Like I told you, boy, yeah, Itold you, told you, I told you,
oh God, man, that ain't.

Speaker 1 (01:40:52):
I mean, it's still early.

Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
I ain't even looking at my underdog.
I ain't who in the big dance,though, for y'all, I like
Indiana.
I ain't going to lie Indiana.
And who, though?
That's what I'm asking.
Big dance, though, for y'all.
I like indiana.
I ain't gonna lie indiana.
And hudo, that's my man,indiana, okay, see, yeah I'm
gonna go ahead and tell you thenba cares about the nicks in
minnesota though the nba, notonce.

Speaker 1 (01:41:13):
The nba cares about their dollars and they're going
to execute appropriately.
And um, I'll tell you what itwon't be OKC versus
motherfucking Indiana.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
You say that you think one of the two you got to
make it with what you're saying.
So either New York or Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (01:41:33):
No, I'm saying both of them.

Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
No, it ain't going to happen.
Yeah, Minnesota OKC ain'tletting up they ain't letting up
.
This may get better in thefourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (01:41:43):
Sure the smash he doesn't though this man get
better in the fourth quarter.
I'm sure the smash he doesn'tthough that's the thing he smash
.
Like, the only thing that OKCcan count on consistently is
Shea.
They can't count on anythingelse consistently, not Chet
isn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
Definitely not, chet Weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:41:59):
Not Chet, not J Not.
J Will Not J Dub, whichever onehe is Not.
J Will not J Dub, whichever onehe is Not.
Aaron Wiggins, I mean, butyou're not going to count on him
.
Game in and game out, bro.
They don't have anybody elseyou can count on except for Chet
.
I mean, excuse me, except forShea, and don't get me wrong.

(01:42:22):
They might win game one,because I got Timberwolves in
six.
So that means they lose twogames, right, okay, thanks so
yeah, let's hope we got OKC insix.
You got OKC.

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
I had Minnesota in six.
So yeah, no, You're definitelysaying the same thing.
I love Ant.

Speaker 1 (01:42:38):
Hey, well, let's make a pod wager, all right, what
are we doing?
I mean, what's something thatwe could do on a pod that's
worth a bet that's not overlyembarrassing for everybody to
lose, or do 10 push-ups on thepod.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
On the pod, though, what about 10?
Because, from what I've beenhearing shout out my boy, jay
and Chris E, they told me thatDean didn't hit.

Speaker 1 (01:43:00):
He said that Dean did push-up.
You can't do 10 push-ups.

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
He didn't hit.
He said that Dean did push up.
You can't do 10 push up.
He didn't.
His stomach did not hit.
From what I keep hearing, thatstomach did not hit.
They asked me to do 10.
I did 10.
Chris Edwards.

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
If your stomach didn't touch, you didn't do 10
push up.

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
Okay, my shit touched every time, but that's what
they keep saying, he didn't denythat, chris.
Sam, oh, your whole chestsupposed to touch.
Oh, your whole chest issupposed to touch out.
Yeah, you can't.
Yeah, it's impossible.
Ask him to do it, ask him tofigure out how to do it.
He can't do 10 push-ups, forreal Money can't do 10 push-ups.
I mean, yeah, money said hecouldn't do 10.

(01:43:34):
That's what he said, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:43:36):
All right, man, let me spin this off of him real
quick, because that's my friend.
That's my friend.
I don't.
This ain't about him, and Goddamn it.
He might be watching, but I'mnot, I promise you, I ain't
talking about him.

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
He don't come, don't say nothing crazy, because you
know if you do he already, healready said he was coming today
.

Speaker 1 (01:43:54):
He said he was coming today, but but but, but you,
they know, big salad syrup.
I put that shit on everything.
Well, chrissy, hey, I'm not inshape, I'm not in shape.

(01:44:15):
So I ain't gonna sit here andsay I can go 12 rounds with
Chrissy, I ain't gonna do that.
But I'm not gonna sit here andsay I'm scared of them either.
That's crazy.
I know who I be, who I used tobe, at least.
But no, but like as a friendgroup, right, I ain't saying we
got to be in great shape, noneof that shit.
But I think we need to likefind some like certain standards

(01:44:36):
of, like a certain number ofpush-ups, you know, sit-ups,
crunches.
No, I have no bullshit.

Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
Let me tell you.
I'm going to tell you some realshit.
I think all of us need to quitFucking bullshit and get our big
asses up, because you big asfuck too.
Everybody, one of us need toget you found it too.
We all need to get up and weneed to get active.
Everybody need to get outsideand get something, because I
don't realize no bullshit.
Me and Chris.

Speaker 1 (01:45:05):
Me and Chris was talking at fucking 4 30 this
morning how many holes we couldhave if we just started working
out together bullshit and getour fat asses up.

Speaker 2 (01:45:16):
It's just all.
We ain't doing it for the holesac, stupid ass.
We doing it because we'retrying to get it.
We're trying to get it, weain't doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
We ain't doing it.
That was a pod joke to get acertain response out of them,
because obviously it was a podjoke we need to get our big
asses out there.

Speaker 2 (01:45:40):
We need to start really doing like a village vet
workout crew.
I started looking at old picsback in the day.
Shout out to my Fit for Lifecrew man, Shout out to them I
love them to death.
Listen, I love them.

(01:46:24):
We're going to pass that on theshow.
We're going to pass that on thecouch.
Look, look, look, look, look,look, look, look, look, look,
look, look, look, look y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:46:42):
We get our big ass out.
Shout out to Fit for Life crew.

Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
Get out there.
The Village Bears need to getout there and get busy.
Every Saturday we need to be atDungeon Park and y'all big old
shits don't even quit playing,though you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:46:55):
I'm actually not against that For real.
But let me just go back to himand his Fit for Life crew, right
?
No, because I went to a fit forlife workout and he and he said
I got this workout for you.
Now, mind you, I was like two,three days out of officer
candidate school, so I was inlike amazing shape.

(01:47:16):
Like I was, I was great fuckingshape.
This thing put me through thisworkout.
I'm thinking he gonna do theworkout with me.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
I literally just did the workout right before.
And the crazy part is shout outChris Powell, my boy.
He will vouch.
I just did the workout rightbefore you, douchebag, you start
pouting and shit.

Speaker 1 (01:47:38):
It sounds good, but I did the damn workout.
I'm doing this workout and Ifeel myself being in great shape
, being extremely challenged bythis workout.
And I feel myself being ingreat shape, being extremely
challenged by this workout, andI said ain't no way in hell,
this motherfucker did this shit.
He wasn't doing all these repsat this speed?
Hell, no, I'm in too good ofshape for this shit.
And that workout whooped my ass.

(01:47:59):
Don't get me wrong.
It was a great fucking workout,but now I appreciated what
y'all was doing.
Man Shit.
A great fucking workout, butnow I appreciated what y'all was
doing man Shit.
Y'all was out here, boy.
Y'all was selling hope, sellingdreams, and niggas was losing
weight.
Because you got to understandyour fit for life is the reason
why I got a kid today.
You're welcome Because when Igot to Monterey I saw the

(01:48:21):
Herbalife and you remember I wasat that girl's house.
You know all due respectbecause I know the truth I had
no disrespect.

Speaker 2 (01:48:33):
No, I didn't touch it , but you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:48:35):
I know her husband, so I ain't trying to be
disrespectful, but anyways, Icame in there.
Motherfucker, you sold thatbody.
No, I just called them scammers.
As soon as I saw that Herbalifein there, I said, oh, you sell
this, you just don't use it.
I was like you sell this shit.
So she sold.
I said oh, y'all are scammers.
Oh, they tried to curse me out.
Little did they know.

(01:48:56):
Oh, my goodness, do y'allactually think Cooper Flagg
going to be good in the NBA?

Speaker 2 (01:49:05):
Did we talk about that last week?
Yeah, we did A little bit, butserviceable.
We talked about it a little bit, but I definitely think he's
going to be a great puzzle piece.
I don't think he's going to bea superstar.
I think he's going to be agreat piece on that.
He's going to be a great pieceon that Dallas team, for sure.
But now we're going to.

(01:49:27):
Well, I want to ask y'all whatthe hell y'all what you mean the
media makes a story.
Tell me about that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:33):
All right, so the media makes a story.
Uh, I I studied the media,followed the media because I
want to be the media but want tobe the media.
But so I I try to learn it andlike we'll learn what works
there.
And I get extremely frustratedwhen I hear about people in the
media complaining about certainstories being stories.
Because the media makes a storyand that ties us into, like

(01:49:57):
angel versus caitlin.
We got all of these differentopinions right and people are
saying why are they playing theblack girl against a white girl?
Why is this a race conversation?
They're not even rivals.
They play different positions,this and that and this and that
and this and that.
Why can't you just love theleague?
Why do you got to love Angelmore than Caitlin?
Why do you have to hate on oneto support the other?

(01:50:18):
And I go, we only talk about itbecause this is what y'all put
out here.
Like I don't think about theDallas Cowboys, but if I turn on
Stephen a Smith, he's going totalk about the Dallas Cowboys.
I'm not thinking about the LosAngeles Lakers today Cause

(01:50:38):
they're not in the playoffs, butif I listen to Gil's arena,
they might talk about him.
If I listen to Colin cowherd,he might talk about him.
Right, woj might just drop somerent, not woj, but shams might
drop some random shit about Luca.
Right, like we saw last week onsocial media, lakers hiring a
strength and conditioning coachand that's just going to.
It's making his rounds onsocial media.

Speaker 2 (01:51:00):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:51:03):
I didn't care about that until I saw it.
So a lot of times the mediawill take stories that they know
people will respond to and thenthey'll complain that they
respond to them and I thinksometimes certain stories we
should just step on.
You know how we don't reallycome on here and talk about
Kanye and his antics, because wejust don't support that shit,

(01:51:24):
we just think it's niggas, so wedon't talk about it.
And I respect that from us,because we're not going to talk
about shit we don't want to talkabout, even if quote unquote
people want to hear it.
Whereas for us and our show,which we haven't really talked
about this much, our Facebookshow versus our TikTok clips Two
totally different audiences,right, right, yes, like our

(01:51:48):
TikTok clips they want us totalk about.
Like the hot topics but ourfacebook show they actually like
us yeah which I like ourfacebook people more than I like
our tiktok people, believe itor not, like I know I, I think I
should.
They don't like you, though,who they don't fucking like you
at all.

Speaker 2 (01:52:01):
They don't like you, that's fine well, you need to
start interacting better, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:52:05):
You gotta get this shit together no, like I, I, I
appreciate them, I love them.
Man, like like, please watchthe show.
Like, go crazy, chet I, I, Ireally stand with our facebook
people because we wouldn't havethe show without facebook.
Right, they're gonna be ourclosest ticket to dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:52:25):
Thanks.
Oh, are we going to talk aboutannual catering for a bit.

Speaker 1 (01:52:31):
Well, yeah, that's, and that this was kind of the
lead into that.

Speaker 2 (01:52:34):
Oh, okay, um yeah.
So you know that was aplayground file, she.
She pushed her after the fact.
Who cares I'm?
I'm just saying it wasn'tflagrant, it was flagrant.
If it's intentional, it'sflagrant at this point, I mean
maybe the physicality wasn'tthere.
The physicality wasn't therefor her Damn yeah, strong as

(01:52:57):
hell, as far as what you wouldsee in a regular game or what
have you but she pushed her.
So it's a flagrant foul.
You blatantly push somebody.
That's a flagrant foul.

Speaker 1 (01:53:14):
And you see Angel Reese take her big hand and put
it in that girl's back with twohands.
They called nothing.
It wasn't like that though itwasn't like that it was the same
exact shit.

Speaker 2 (01:53:24):
Kaylin just wrapped her arms around her and made a
hard battle.
That's what I'm saying, kaylin,just wrapped her arms around
and made a hard battle.

Speaker 1 (01:53:29):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:53:29):
It was a stuff Angel pushed that girl in the back so
uncontrolled, when I ain't got.
I don't even see her and I pushyou in the back.
It's light enough for you toslide up when you shooting a
freak on that right, it's lightenough for you to slide up not
for me to fucking fall down, foryou to slide up, not for me to
fucking fall down, for you toslide up.
And I grabbed the rebound.

(01:53:50):
So did he grab you like this?
Hold on, hold on.
I'm just asking you, did hegrab you like that?

Speaker 1 (01:54:05):
That's one of Chris Tucker's.
That money talk.
Did he grab you like that?
I didn't know shit.
Hey, that's one of ChrisTucker's.
Got to move that money talk.

Speaker 2 (01:54:08):
That's my shit dog, Did he grab you like this or
like this?
I did it.
Juice boy, that's something Ididn't think it was so bad?

Speaker 1 (01:54:17):
I don't think it was flagrant, I think it was a hard
foul.
But all she did was just like,hey bro, no layup.
And then I give you the uh-uhs,because you pushed my teammate
in the back and, like Kaitlyn,now Kaitlyn Clark shouldn't be
the person having to do that,but she was in a position to do
it and I mean it builds into thenarrative.

(01:54:39):
But then also Aaliyah Boston,you know what I'm saying.
Like Kaitlyn, the way thatCaitlyn handled it, she fell and
she walked away.
She already knew what Angel wasgoing to be on.
She's going to be on that angryblack woman shit and go play
victim in the birth control.
We're not going to do that.
We're not going to do that shehad every right to get up and be

(01:55:02):
mad.
She should have been mad.

Speaker 2 (01:55:06):
If you look at the game as a whole, which I did, I
went back and looked.
It was plenty missed calls likethat for them.
Oh, that wasn't no foul, thatnigga failed.
No, don't focus on that game.

Speaker 1 (01:55:17):
No, no, no, no, I'm ready to come back to this I'm
ready to bullshit.

Speaker 2 (01:55:21):
It was plenty missed calls throughout that game.
I believe, it To warrant thatreaction.

Speaker 1 (01:55:26):
I mean, but Angel Reese doesn't play a game that
warrants getting calls.
Angel Reese misses far too manylayups to get calls Angel Reese
.

Speaker 2 (01:55:40):
I'm going to be a devil's advocate because, again,
I don't want this conversationto go long.
Angel Reese shouldn't be in aCaitlyn.
What's her name?

Speaker 1 (01:55:51):
Caitlyn Clark.

Speaker 2 (01:55:52):
Conversation no.
Andrew Reese is nowhere near.

Speaker 1 (01:55:59):
Caitlyn, I agree.
Did you see the meme that saidAndre Drummond mad at Steph
Curry and that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:56:07):
She's Andre Drummond mad at Steph Curry.
Come on, bro.
She's Andre Drummond, bro.
No disrespect to Angel Reese,but she's fucking Andre.

Speaker 1 (01:56:13):
Drummond.

Speaker 2 (01:56:14):
They're talking about Steph and Curry.

Speaker 1 (01:56:15):
She's fine, andre Drummond.
I hear what y'all saying.
She's Andre Drummond with nicelegs and the romper back there.

Speaker 2 (01:56:24):
Because the comparison is like Paige or Juju
.
Right, that's the nextiteration of a motherfucker that
good.

Speaker 1 (01:56:31):
Because they're killers.

Speaker 2 (01:56:33):
Everyone keeps saying Angel Reese, look like Tracy
McGrady.
That's what I'm saying.
That's literally been theconversation.
Everybody keeps saying she'sTracy McGrady.

Speaker 1 (01:56:43):
But can she look you in the?

Speaker 2 (01:56:45):
eye.
She fine, though I ain't takingnothing from.

Speaker 1 (01:56:49):
Angel.
My problem with Angel, though,is she don't look better off the
court than she do on the court.

Speaker 2 (01:56:56):
Ooh, I can agree with that.
They look fire on the court allthe time, compared to when she
went to the Met Gala and shelooked like shit.
I mean, she just looked thesame because she do so much
makeup.

Speaker 1 (01:57:08):
Like if you look at I'm a fucking fine, like no, I
don't get me wrong, yeah.
But like if you look at Paige,right, I don't think Paige looks
as good as Angel Rich, right,but like the difference between.

Speaker 2 (01:57:17):
Juju do.

Speaker 1 (01:57:18):
She look better than Angel.
Rich, but yeah, on the courtversus Paige off the court you
go.
Oh, you don't try to look goodwhen you play basketball, but
when you try to look good, youlook good.
You look all right.
Now Juju, she a little bitdifferent, because Juju is just
pretty.
She ain't got no ass.

Speaker 2 (01:57:36):
I think Juju got a splash of dyke on her and I like
that a little bit about her.
Listen, that's what I like themost.

Speaker 1 (01:57:44):
Drewski was on to something.
He just had too many studs onhis show.
That was too studdy.

Speaker 2 (01:57:55):
I used to tell y'all that back in the day.

Speaker 1 (01:57:58):
You've been on that one I used to tell y'all.
He love one.
Nigga put my face on it.

Speaker 2 (01:58:03):
2012, I was telling y'all you know, you know, you
know you know, you know, youknow, you know, you know, you
know, you know, you know, youknow, you know, you know, you
know, you know, you know youknow, you know, you know you
know, you know you know, youknow, you know, you know, you
know you're right On me.

(01:58:24):
You hear me, Listen on me,Listen to what I'm saying.
I forgot, Come on.
I forgot, Shout out man.
I ain't going to say her name,but you know who you is.

Speaker 1 (01:58:34):
She been on the platform.
Yeah, shout out.
Hey, they introduced me to astud at TSU.
He was like it's a littlefine-ass stud, but I tear that
ass up.

Speaker 2 (01:58:48):
But it look fine, that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:58:48):
But now going back to Angela Caitlyn thing, bro, like
you're right, it shouldn't evenreally be a rivalry, because
Caitlyn is fine.

Speaker 2 (01:59:01):
Angel is good.
They trying to do it.
They trying to make the Larryand magic type of shit but you
can't do it because again but Imean college wise yes, you can,
but Caitlyn, she didn't win it.
So again, like those are thetwo.

Speaker 1 (01:59:14):
She never won it.

Speaker 2 (01:59:15):
But again, like I say , did.

Speaker 1 (01:59:16):
Larry win it.
He didn't win it.
No, he didn't win it.

Speaker 2 (01:59:19):
Larry didn't win it, no, but Magic did.
The black side did, yeah, theblack side did, yeah, magic.
One angel did too, yeah.
But here's the thing, though.
That's why you compare one one,one didn't the other one.

Speaker 1 (01:59:32):
But here's the other thing about angel reach right,
which makes keeping her in theconversation and the media makes
a story.
You got niggas like ryan clarkgoing out here shitting on rg3
because now I thought rg3, rg3'stake was whack.

Speaker 2 (01:59:47):
I'm about to say no no, no, no, no on RG3, because
now I thought RG3's take waswhack.
I was about to say no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:59:52):
I'm defending his rebuttal to Ryan Clark Don't
bring my personal life into mysports take.
What did he say about it?
He pretty much said you want toplay it, you can play it for
them, you can play it for them.

Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
Let's play it out.

Speaker 1 (02:00:08):
You can play it for them I know what he said.

Speaker 2 (02:00:10):
He didn't really say nothing negative.
I don't feel like he saidnothing.
He just said he called a milkshit.
Pretty much.
He said that.
You know RG3 talks about hiswife like she's deprived because
she white and she's more thanthat.

Speaker 1 (02:00:28):
But don't say that about my wife and, like I'm
telling you as somebody whocares about black issues, is pro
black and married somebody whowasn't black and and dealt with
that insecurity because of howblack people would treat you if
you don't marry black,especially these bitter
motherfuckers who can't findsomebody to marry and love them
and treat them that way.
Right, it's a very difficultplace to be and I could be

(02:00:49):
speaking just from my ownpersonal experience.
Right, I could be whatever thefuck they say you do.
But just because you don'tmarry black don't mean you don't
care about black people's shitand you can't speak on it.
Don't get me wrong.
I think RG3's tweet was truebut out of pocket and it lacks
context.
I don't think Angel Reese likesCaitlin Clark.

Speaker 2 (02:01:14):
I don't think it's the tweet.
I think it's the fucking20-minute video with your white
wife in the back bigging you up.
That's my problem.

Speaker 1 (02:01:25):
That's my problem, but that's his wife and that's
his cheerleader.
So if I'm recording the videoand she gonna be in the back and
hold on, if we're gonna talkabout media and monetizing it,
if I put this white woman in theback, it gives the video more
pizzazz, okay.

Speaker 2 (02:01:43):
I hear you, but as when Ryan Clark sees this, how
can he not respond?

Speaker 1 (02:01:50):
because Ryan Clark takes the liberal pro black
woman stance on fuckingeverything.

Speaker 2 (02:01:57):
So what?
What's wrong with that?
It's not authentic.
What else have you taken on?

Speaker 1 (02:02:06):
uh, it was the conversation he had with Andrew
Schultz.
Andrew Schultz put that niggain the fucking blender.

Speaker 2 (02:02:14):
Okay, I haven't watched it.

Speaker 1 (02:02:15):
I'll watch it in the car Go back and watch it and we
can just talk about it off mic.
But here's the thing.
The problem again the mediamaking shit a story right is too
many black people, specificallyblack men, in these positions
of media and they're talking forblack women.

(02:02:37):
Let the black women speak forthemselves from their
perspective, because, dog,sometimes somebody should have
you.
Trying to protect black andprotect women is actually not
protecting women, because you'renot giving women the credit to
be able to take care of themfucking selves, because there's
a lot of great women out herewho ain't taking shit off nobody
.
They don't need a man to standup for their rights and

(02:02:59):
misrepresent them, becauseyou're speaking for women but
you ain't even speaking whatwomen actually say.

Speaker 2 (02:03:09):
You're thinking what you think women gonna say.
Talk about it.
All right, I understand that,but both women that already
spoke caitlin caitlin clark saidlet's not make it bigger than
what it is.
It was just a foul.
You don't know why.
The rest upgraded.
Angel said good foul, the restgot it right and let it go but
let's be honest, we could and wecould have let it.
We could let it in right thenand there but the media made it
a story all right, right, butwho made that story first?
We can't.
Rg3 went on and said that Angelhates Caitlyn Clark.

(02:03:32):
The man said that Angel wastrying to swing him.
Angel didn't raise her arm.

Speaker 1 (02:03:39):
Well, I'm not.
You got to understand.
I'm not siding with RG3's tweet, I know.
But I'm saying Ryan Clarkshould have addressed the tweet
and the 20-minute talk, not himhaving a fucking white wife.

Speaker 2 (02:03:53):
He addressed the 20-minute talk with the white
wife in the background Becauseshe's there apart.

Speaker 1 (02:03:58):
Bro, leave the wife out of it.

Speaker 2 (02:04:00):
Nah nah, Leave the wife out of it she made herself
part of it.

Speaker 1 (02:04:03):
Here's the thing.
D here's the thing we men here.
If a nigga talk too crazy aboutyour woman, it don't matter if
she was there, it don't matterif she's out of pocket.

Speaker 2 (02:04:12):
I'm not going to put her in bounds, I'm not going to
put her in bounds.

Speaker 1 (02:04:17):
You don't have that choice all the time.
You don't have that choice.
If you bring your woman out thehouse, you put your woman where
she can be seen or be heard.
She is subject to putting youin a situation that you have no
control over.

Speaker 2 (02:04:32):
This is a situation where he was in control, though,
because he placed her backthere All right.
I looked at multiple videos.
She ain't never been back therebefore.

Speaker 1 (02:04:42):
It does not matter.

Speaker 2 (02:04:44):
It does not matter.
No, that was intentional, butit doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (02:04:47):
That was intentional, but it doesn't matter if it's
intentional when it comes to manso parade when it comes to man,
pretty much, pretty much.

Speaker 2 (02:04:56):
Do what you can to try to beat down a black woman
and then parade your white wifein the background while bigging
up Kaelin Clark.

Speaker 1 (02:05:04):
Dean, if you talk, if you say something crazy, like
dog, I'm not with my wife rightnow.
Y'all talk crazy about my wife.
We ain't stepping outside.
I'm moving furniture.
I understand that.
So like we know that, as men,it don't matter what the
situation is, it don't matterwhat the context is Context,
excuse me, you don't.

(02:05:25):
You do not speak about my woman.
We know that, as niggas, fuckall the cornball brother
bullshit because I thought whatRG3 did was corny.
But don't talk about my fuckingwoman, doggy.
We sitting here and we knowthat shit Facts.

Speaker 2 (02:05:41):
I mean, I agree with both.
I agree with both, I agree withboth.

Speaker 1 (02:05:45):
I agree with you, I agree with both of you I agree
with you.

Speaker 2 (02:05:48):
I think he propped her up.
It does not matter, it doesn'tmatter.
Let me play devil's eye becauseI want to shake both of y'all.
What you said, that's the way Iwas looking at it, the way he
had the camera set up rightthere to where it was, right
there, directly at the wife, andshe's shaking her head and she

(02:06:09):
agreeing and doing all this andthat, yes, but then again, that
also is what you said.
Don't speak on it.
That made her fair game to bespoke on because she was in the
video and she was making it wideopen to where you can make your
opinion.
I get what you're saying.
You still don't speak on mywoman.

Speaker 1 (02:06:28):
Hear me out, right.
Something happens right.
Teasy cusses me out.
If we leave the house and meand you talk, we'll be in a good
spot.
If she curses me out, no matterhow wrong she is, and I decide

(02:06:48):
to curse her back out, we mayget to a good conversation
eventually.
It's gonna take us longer toget there, even if I was right
in responding to somebodyspeaking to me in a certain way.
But between me and you, that'syour lady, it don't matter, and

(02:07:10):
we and and the rules that weabide by, it don't matter if the
girl is right or wrong?
no, I definitely we don't speakon people's lady, we don't.
We don't do that.
So when you decide to do that,it don't matter.
If, if, if, he her up.
Yeah, that shit RG3 did wascorny.
I've always stood with RobParker.

(02:07:31):
He's the cornball brother.
He's not the type of nigga thatgoes to a Rob Parker barbershop
in Detroit.
He ain't that kind of nigga.

Speaker 2 (02:07:40):
We throwing oops on that AC.
I told you OKC and 6.
Nah.
Game one, but OKC six NahMinnesota in six Game, one
brother OKC, they've beenplaying man, we was rusty, it's
OK, but you know I don't want tomake this about RG3 and I
really want to get back to theCaleb Clark shit, because I
don't think that was a flagrant.

(02:08:01):
Well, I want to say this aboutlike the internet and when it
comes to Andrew Reeves andKatelyn Clark, it's something
that I sit you off to see andI'm going to say it.
Oh, you don't see, you don'tlook.

Speaker 1 (02:08:14):
I don't read comments bro.

Speaker 2 (02:08:15):
I read comments.

Speaker 1 (02:08:16):
Yeah, bro, that's just unhealthy.

Speaker 2 (02:08:18):
But, andrew, if she's a comment reader on the
internet and she sees what theypost about her, bro, she will be
sick.

Speaker 1 (02:08:31):
She will be sick, and can you say that she doesn't
help herself out?

Speaker 2 (02:08:35):
though he be honest and say that, like age, I'm not
I'm not gonna say nothing aboutno 21, 22 year old girl that's
out here.

Speaker 1 (02:08:43):
I'm not saying, I'm figuring it out I'm not saying
like no, fuck, fuck the context,because I understand you're
trying to figure it out.
But if you just read, if youjust watch how angel reese
carries herself, even the wayshe answered the question in the
press conference, right, shewas obviously pissed off, she
was on her angry, angry blackwoman, shit, she's not wrong for
that.
I hold on.

(02:09:04):
No, no, no, no, I'm saying thaton purpose, right, she's not
wrong for that, right, she's gother ass whooped by 30 by the
bitch.
I'll keep comparing her to whoshe ain't even like we.
We, bro, we different people.
Stop comparing me to shorty,and they just whooped my ass
again.
Yeah, and y'all asking aboutthe stupid ass call that don't
even really fucking matter,right?

(02:09:25):
So, her, we're talking aboutbrand building, right?
The same way, you wanted thatthat bottle turned around, right
?
It's because you're consideringyour image and what it looks
like, even though it's a joke.
It's just a joke, but, but, but, but.
But still, in your brain you'relike I don't want to be
associated with this brand.

(02:09:46):
I did the research to make surehe's not associated with this
brand anymore for me to becomfortable doing this shit.
Right, right, because if he wasstill a part owner in this, you
probably wouldn't even bepouring it up on camera.
You know what I'm saying, right, and that's not knocking you.
It's you thinking about yourbrand, about your brand?

(02:10:11):
Well, when angel will thinkabout her shade room brand and
then be upset that she doesn'tget the the shade room love in
the wmba world where people areexpecting you to be a basketball
player, not a icon.
They're not right.
They're not right in theirthinking because people are
complex, you gotta break thatyou got to break that down.

Speaker 2 (02:10:27):
You got to break that down a little bit Because you
said the shade room icon.
You got to break that down forme a little bit Because I don't
think she's trying to be, Ithink she's trying to be
multiple things.
I think she's trying to expandthe range of what a WNBA player
look like.
And then, you know, society andus two, we'll hit her with a

(02:10:55):
label.
We'll hit her with a label tosay that, you know, because
she's hanging with Meg TheeStallion.

Speaker 1 (02:11:02):
They'll hang out.

Speaker 2 (02:11:04):
I don't see them hang out multiple times on the
internet.

Speaker 1 (02:11:09):
They'll hang out, he said on the internet.
I'm telling you, I tell you.

Speaker 2 (02:11:17):
I think she's trying to.
I told you.

Speaker 1 (02:11:21):
I'll tell you when we turn these mics off.
Okay, All right.
But, you got to answer that.
That's a FaceTime.

Speaker 2 (02:11:42):
She know I'm on the pod.

Speaker 1 (02:11:43):
Oh, she called.
She don't care.
You better answer that stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:11:46):
I'll get in trouble.
Look man, we all good, we canwrap it up.

Speaker 1 (02:11:52):
She's trying to expand right.
She wants to be visible inmultiple places.

Speaker 2 (02:11:55):
I'm just saying that for her to be what I feel for
her.
I mean, we ain't do this withnobody else.

Speaker 1 (02:12:04):
We didn't care about anybody else.

Speaker 2 (02:12:05):
We didn't care with nobody else.

Speaker 1 (02:12:07):
We didn't care about anybody else we didn't care.
Here's the thing we care now.

Speaker 2 (02:12:11):
She didn't really give us a reason to care who
Angel, until this damn Caitlynand Angel shit came.

Speaker 1 (02:12:17):
But she gave us a reason to care.

Speaker 2 (02:12:20):
But she didn't create that.
Unless you and I wouldn'tcreate that.

Speaker 1 (02:12:25):
No, no no, no, you watch those.
No, no, you watch those games.
And you saw that shit.
Because here's the thing Notonly, not only did she Do that,
but she was doing a.
You can't see me, and that wasCaitlyn shit, alright.

Speaker 2 (02:12:43):
That's basketball.

Speaker 1 (02:12:44):
that's taunting, yes, but in a sport that we hardly
cared about.
You take the person, kaitlynClark, who had people caring
about women's basketball becauseshe's shooting from half court.
People started caring aboutwomen's basketball because of
Kaitlyn Clark.
Angel Reese, let's say thislet's say white people.

(02:13:05):
No, no, no, no.
It's not just white people, no,no, no, no, it's not just white
people.
If we started this podcast fiveyears ago, we would not be
talking about women's basketball.
I'm telling you as a nigga whofollows women's basketball, who
followed Kelsey Plum sincemotherfucking high school, who
follow Angel Reese not AngelReese, goddamn Maya Moore.
At Collins Hill, we did notcare about women's basketball

(02:13:31):
yes, but a nigga who's had apodcast since 2017.

Speaker 2 (02:13:36):
Because I can remember how much I loved some
of these people you're talkingabout in college and I can
remember how much I watched.
So that may be your experienceand maybe it popped.
Check the metrics.

Speaker 1 (02:13:48):
I'm telling you, maybe it popped with.
Check, check the metrics checkthe metrics we did not care, I'm
not saying, I'm not saying, I'mnot saying we I'm not saying no
, no, no, no, I'm not not care,until angel pop, I mean I'm not
saying that we sitting here atthe table, I am saying the
collective, we as Americans.
People did not care aboutwomen's basketball.

(02:14:09):
It's the majority.

Speaker 2 (02:14:11):
They didn't care until Caitlin Clark popped.

Speaker 1 (02:14:14):
Yeah, and it's not, bro.
It's not a white thing, bro,it's not.

Speaker 2 (02:14:19):
I'm not saying it's just a white thing, but I'm
saying that's the majority,that's who.

Speaker 1 (02:14:26):
Nigga, have you ever seen a woman before Caitlyn
Clark?
Have you seen a woman playbasketball like that?

Speaker 2 (02:14:36):
Both.
They're different.
Diana Taurasi can do that Did.

Speaker 1 (02:14:41):
She Did Diana Taurasi make people who don't care
about women's basketball careabout women's basketball.

Speaker 2 (02:14:49):
The answer is no, I would say she did at that point
in time.

Speaker 1 (02:14:53):
At the rate.
Has anybody made people care?

Speaker 2 (02:14:57):
about women's basketball Okay so take, they
don't live in this generation,all right.

Speaker 1 (02:15:04):
No, they also weren't that fucking entertaining.
Kaitlyn Clark does not playbasketball.
No, kaitlyn Clark don't playbasketball like most chicks.
A lot of chicks play basketballlike chicks.
Aja Wilson, great player, butshe plays in the post, right?
Does she dunk?
No, when we see post players,we want to see dunks.

(02:15:25):
Kaitlyn Clark, she ain't takingthat push shot three.
That motherfucker is pulling upfrom 30 off the dribble it
looks different.

Speaker 2 (02:15:34):
I hear you lad ass nigga, but I'm just saying it
ain't like motherfuckers ain'taffected the game before, it's
just disaffected cause shelearned, cause she learned it
from somebody else.
She learned it from somebodyelse.
She learned it from Steph, aman Not a woman.

Speaker 1 (02:15:53):
She learned from a woman's back.

Speaker 2 (02:15:54):
We didn't have Steph before this.
Alright, we can say the samething about him 15 years ago.

Speaker 1 (02:16:01):
Yeah, but people cared about the NBA.
People don't care about the NBAbecause of Steph.
They cared about the NBA.

Speaker 2 (02:16:06):
They cared about Kaitlyn Clark because of Steph.
They cared about the NBA.
They cared about Kaitlyn Clarkbecause of why she's fine.
Because she looked like StephCurry, because she's fine.
She's fine, I'll give her that,and she won't, hey, so let me
no hold on.

Speaker 1 (02:16:21):
Hold on no.

Speaker 2 (02:16:24):
You can't not say that point.
That's real.
I'm not saying that her being.
I'm talking about full crediton her ability.

Speaker 1 (02:16:31):
Okay, but keep repeating yourself, please, what
?
Keep repeating yourself,because you've like talked for
five minutes.
I'm trying to counter, but youlike Every time I try to counter
no, no, no, you're not going todo that shit to me again today.
You did it once earlier On thisparticular point.
I let you slide.
You didn't let me do nothing,the fuck I did.
So here's the thing.

(02:16:53):
Right, I'll cut his mic.

Speaker 2 (02:16:57):
Here's the thing though.

Speaker 1 (02:17:00):
Here's my problem with having this conversation
with pro-black people.
They just want to make race thefirst thing.
Race ain't the first thingabout this conversation.
Caitlin Clark is a good fuckingbasketball player.
She's fucking entertaining.
Hey, I'm about to cut your micCause, god damn it, I'm trying
to tell the best.
So here's the thing.

(02:17:20):
Right, caitlin Clark is I'm notsaying she's the best of the
best, because she has to provethat year in and year out to be
the best of the best but she'san entertaining basketball
player.
She makes people watchbasketball.
And I almost turned him back onbecause he did the little
whisper bullshit and I said nofuck that.
You got to wait a second.
I'm going to bring you backhere because I would never, ever

(02:17:40):
cut your mic permanently.
I wouldn't do you like that.
You're my co-host and you're myfriend.
More importantly, but God damnit.
The problem with thesepro-black-ass niggas is they
don't want to just look at theproduct and talk about the
product first and then throw inthe race as an additive.
They want to make the race theflower in the motherfucking cake
, right?
Niggas want to say EricBien-Aimé?

(02:18:03):
Yeah, they want to say EricBien-Ami, don't get a head
coaching job in NFL because he'sblack, or maybe because he
doesn't interview well andowners don't like him and he's
black.
It's right there by his goddamnfeet.
But like this, angel Reese andKaitlyn Clark conversation is

(02:18:23):
Kaitlyn Clark is fine, she'sentertaining and she's white.
It's not because she's white.
There hasn't been a blackbasketball player to play the
game the way that Caitlin Clarkhas, until we saw juju, who
again plays a little bitdifferently.
But guess what?

Speaker 2 (02:18:40):
we support juju okay, so you, so you, you thinking
I'm making her being white thepremise.

Speaker 1 (02:18:47):
Yeah, no, because that's what y'all Democrats and
niggas do.

Speaker 2 (02:18:51):
You need to relax, okay.
Don't tell me what we do,because we don't do it like that
.

Speaker 1 (02:18:55):
Bullshit.
Y'all told me to vote forKamala and sick-ass Joe.

Speaker 2 (02:19:00):
I mean, you see where we at now High-ass terrorist.
We'll deal with all that laterbut what I'm saying is this SMP
up.
What I'm saying is this she'san awesome basketball player,
stella.

Speaker 1 (02:19:15):
Is she better than Angel Reese?
Relax, don't make me cut yourmic off.
Don't make me cut your mic off,I just pulled it out the
goddamn.

Speaker 2 (02:19:24):
I got tickets to fuck out.
Let's get the fuck out.
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:19:28):
Pull it out the goddamn look, look, I gotta take
it to out.

Speaker 2 (02:19:33):
All right, hey, listen y'all wegot 10 more minutes because the
rain started 12 o'clock.

Speaker 1 (02:19:37):
We got to keep it rolling oh yeah, we got to be in
the rain, y'all just gotta go.

Speaker 2 (02:19:41):
Yeah, let me finish it.
Go ahead you go, you want, butLet me finish this.
Go ahead, ness, you go.
Don't think that the supportdon't come based off.
Oh, she did fine, but she'salso white.

Speaker 1 (02:19:59):
Yeah, bro, luka and Joker, they're most white.

Speaker 2 (02:20:03):
Of her fan base.
Most of them don't even give afuck about basketball.

Speaker 1 (02:20:07):
You look at, read the comments Niggas didn't give a
fuck about politics, but theyvoted for Obama.
What's the difference?
We get mad when white people dothe same shit we do.

Speaker 2 (02:20:16):
Man, you don't know if that's true or not.
Yes, I do.
You don't know if that's trueor not.
You was a damn 18-year-old kid,just like I was.
You was 22, the second timeDang dang dang.
You don't know if that's true.

Speaker 1 (02:20:31):
I was actually 16 and 20.

Speaker 2 (02:20:33):
16 and 20, I mean yeah yeah, 15 and 19,.

Speaker 1 (02:20:36):
but dang dang.

Speaker 2 (02:20:39):
Come on now, dang.

Speaker 1 (02:20:40):
Come on now, bro.
You know good and goddamn wellwe got family members who voted
for obama in the primaries notgiving a fuck about his platform
just because he was black.

Speaker 2 (02:20:55):
We can't be mad at white people for doing the same
shit I don't know that becauseit didn't happen the second time
around with a black woman she,was she different?

Speaker 1 (02:21:04):
is she different?
Okay she different, don't,don't I?
That's a, that's a badcomparison, because obama was
also fly cool.
You saw ant-man was talking toobama.
You see how obama respondedlike he.
He didn't respond like nosucker.

Speaker 2 (02:21:18):
He was like hey, hey brian hey, hey, hey, yeah, yeah,
yeah, like doing that boy ain'tdoing nothing, he ain't gonna
be that fly talking all day,yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:21:27):
I mean, here's the thing there are people who lead
with fucking race and that'swhat they do.
I don't think that's the rightway to lead.
And if you are supportingCaitlyn Clark first because
she's white, I think you'rewrong, but think about her fan
base.

Speaker 2 (02:21:44):
How many of those folks do that?

Speaker 1 (02:21:48):
And, like I said, I will figure about.
I'm her fan base, so I can'tspeak 45.
I'm a fan too like, like,because she's good at basketball
also on your too.

Speaker 2 (02:21:56):
And then you know for the, for the, that's talking
crazy what you mean on your I'msaying listen for the ones
that's talking crazy, and youknow saying listen for the ones
that's talking crazy, and youknow I'm crazy to angel reese as
far as racism goes, why not?

Speaker 1 (02:22:14):
speak.
I'm gonna say something youwant me to say to them.
No, I don't like, like I'm notsaying that, like I don't care.
I'm saying like they doing thatoff your back, caitlyn's back.

Speaker 2 (02:22:26):
This, this, the robbery that that society has
created it's more like this Idon't care what it's like.
You got an ncw championship.
She don't all right.
So what?
What you want me to do not bewho I am?

Speaker 1 (02:22:43):
no, I want you to be yourself Mosley Malone gonna be
Mosley Malone.

Speaker 2 (02:22:47):
Larry Bird gonna be Larry Bird.
Yeah, alright, they got thesame.
Larry Bird got three rings.
Mosley Malone got two.
Okay, Okay.
Alright.

Speaker 1 (02:22:56):
But I got you I can't be nobody else but myself.
No, I'm not asking you to beanybody else but yourself, but
like I'm just gonna sit here andsay that, like we're not in the
college anymore, we're in theWNBA and now we're judging.

Speaker 2 (02:23:11):
And neither one of y'all are close to winning.

Speaker 1 (02:23:14):
No, indiana was actually pretty close to winning
.
They brought in some good.
They brought in some goodpieces.
It's going to make them abetter team.
Who see it?
Yeah, see it.
Who see it?
Yeah, see it.
And who else?
Uh, caitlin being better yeartwo and uh, boston and leah
boston being better in in yearthree.

(02:23:34):
We'll see.
Yeah, yeah, no, we'll see.
That's my piece.
Yeah, we'll fucking see.
Yeah, I'm not saying they'regonna win the championship, but
I'm just.
Caitlin is five and we need tolike let her be fine.
And just because and like.
The one thing about KaitlynClark is that I don't like that
at all.
The one thing about KaitlynClark that's different from

(02:23:54):
Angel Reese is I think KaitlynClark is seeing the bigger
picture of what the WNBA and themoney behind that league is
trying to do in growing thatleague, and I think she carries
herself that way, thinking aboutgrowing herself and the league
and being the face of it behindthat league is trying to do in
growing that league, and I thinkshe carries herself that way,
thinking about growing herselfand the league and being the
face of it.
And I think that Angel is moreconsumed in growing her own

(02:24:16):
personal brand.
And I'm not saying Angel'swrong for it before you start
shaking your head and cutting meoff.
But now you're cutting me off,so, like you spoke while I was
speaking, so that's a cutoff.
You're speaking right now andI'm trying to speak.
He didn't say shit.
I said it before you cut me off.

(02:24:36):
You know what I'm saying, butnah, but like, I think Angel is
thinking about herself andgrowing her individual brand,
but not necessarily acceptingwhat comes with that, because
when you grow your brand outsideof the league, you open
yourself up to other scrutinyand when you throw in the racial
piece of it, you're going toget more.
I don't think that's right, Idon't think that's fair, but

(02:24:57):
that's the reality that we livein.
But look, let's close out on aquick fun topic.
I don't know what the fuck thatis.
Y'all got Joe Biden's health atthe last topic.
I'm going to say we're notgoing to do that.
I'm going to freestyle thetopic.
Man, no, I got the last one ofthe night.

Speaker 2 (02:25:14):
I got the last one of the night because it was in the
top.
It was in the shed Hold on.
Hold on with me, man.
What's going on with JB?
He got prostateitutes.
Oh is it.

Speaker 1 (02:25:28):
Yeah it's aggressive prostitutes man he old, so yeah,
but there was also like a bookthat came out this week too that
talked about like how thatnigga was asleep at the wheel.
That's president.
All this shit's coming out atonce and it's pretty fucked up,
but we can like it wasn't animportant topic.
I just wanted to see how y'allWell, we can talk about that
next week, but I do want to askabout.

Speaker 2 (02:25:52):
It was something in the comments that I've been
wanting to ask about Dean, Don'tlet Jarvis do his thing.

Speaker 1 (02:25:59):
Shut up, Jarvis.
What's in the comments?

Speaker 2 (02:26:03):
What happened over the dice game?
Man man look first.
Man look First of all.
Look, I don't shoot dice.
So I got up by $80.
I got up by $80 on Taylor and.
I said I'm done, yeah, and hegot mad.
You see, got to go, I'm notabout to play.
No more Hit and run.

(02:26:25):
That's what that's called, andI run.

Speaker 1 (02:26:28):
That's what it's called.
That's what it's called hit andrun.

Speaker 2 (02:26:30):
I ain't about to sit down here and do this for hours,
like you and Chris andeverybody else.
Uh-uh, get in, get out.
I want 80.

Speaker 1 (02:26:38):
I'm done.
I'm done playing.
Oh no, You're supposed to getjumped on the way home.

Speaker 2 (02:26:43):
No, you're supposed to leave playback.
You're supposed to at leastplay back four or five hands
before you quit.
From what I was told Dean issoon to, he went up and then
stung the ass and got the fuckup.
No, no, no, let's not get it.
No, because I was up 160.

Speaker 1 (02:26:57):
And then I got back, I went all the way down to zero
Came back up 80.

Speaker 2 (02:27:02):
I said I'm done.
No, that's good, Hold on.

Speaker 1 (02:27:07):
When you came up to 80, is that when you called once
you're 80, you said I'm out.

Speaker 2 (02:27:11):
Or did you go to 120?
I told him at 60.
I said, bro, I'm out after thisbecause I'm winning.
I got a profit.
I ain't trying to.

Speaker 1 (02:27:22):
You told him before.

Speaker 2 (02:27:25):
They made it seem like you quit as soon as you hit
on your last hand.
No, no, no, no, jay, he did itright, hell, no, we ain't doing
that that's what I thought, tooHell.
No, he played his hand out andhe went up, went down and then
came back and got medium andthen stung that last game.
Hell no.

Speaker 1 (02:27:41):
Jay, you couldn't, as long as you told him you was
going to be out on that lasthand.
And I don't even like, I don'tplay cards like that.

Speaker 2 (02:27:48):
We didn't lose a draw .

Speaker 1 (02:27:48):
I don't play like that, but like if you say I'm
out before the hand, especiallyif you don't went up, came down,
yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:27:56):
I was up 160.
Shee, yeah, no, you better beglad, you better than me.
But listen, man, you betterthan hey man, he's the village
vets, man.
We got Big Lee on the left, wegot Nasty on the right and Big V
we closing it out For the night.
Y'all it was a hell of a show.
We appreciate y'all stickingaround, who stuck around.

(02:28:17):
But now, hey man, it's time togo home.
It's thunderstorm on the way.
Y'all get somewhere.
Hug and love on each other.
Love y'all.
We out the next week.
Baby Can't have enough vets.

Speaker 1 (02:28:26):
I'm on the grill.
Love on each other, Love y'all.
We out the next week, baby Seey'all next week.
Nigga said it can't happen.
I'm on the grill this weekend,Allen.
We got good steak everyone.

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