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This week, the crew jumps straight into hilarious debates about their true heights before diving into nostalgic stories of creating unrealistically talented versions of themselves in sports video games. The conversation shifts to passionate basketball analysis as they break down Cooper Flagg's potential and which NBA teams would provide the best environment for his development, touching on how race and perception influence player evaluation in professional sports.

The discussion takes a meaningful turn when examining the complex relationship between Black churches and community development. With personal insights and varying perspectives, they question whether religious institutions are effectively serving younger generations while debating the balance between financial contributions and tangible community support. This leads to one of the episode's most powerful segments on men's reluctance to express vulnerability, with raw admissions about why men often internalize struggles rather than seeking help – "That's how we die at 46."

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I take them off.
You leave your shoes on, I takethem off.
No, you're not, that is Ipromise you, you're not.
And that's what makes it crazy.
It's like what niggas don'trealize is I was an undersized
post and that's what like, ohyeah, that's what made me
special, because I grew an extratwo inches because of that.

(00:20):
So how long you been six footand I really don't think I I'm
missing my high school.
I think I'm like high school,no cap and lee, what that make
you.
If he's six foot five eleven,I'm taller than him.
All right, I'm clarified, I'mfive eleven.
Okay, all right, I don't know.
Hey, I ain't got no dog in thefight.

(00:40):
Hey, look at me, you hear me.
I ain't got no dog in the fight.
Hey, look at me, you're right,I ain't got no dog in the fight.
Hey, look at me, I ain't got nodog in the fight.
Yeah, I do absolutely, I do forsure.
And we talking about no hair,no, no, pro ski, we got my
shoulder on shoulder.
Oh god, back on back, back onback, paul.
I was like we ready to go.
I think I got it.

(01:01):
I got it.
I think I got it.
I mean, I got him for sure.
I think I got it.
I think I got it for sure sothat you tall and sharp, so
shout out 511.
I'm like six foot, I'm six foot.

(01:21):
Yeah, I'm like six, two, rightat six, two, I guess what that?
Well, what that?
Make me then short, six, twobodies, make me do it short, six
, two, five, and I get it.
Huh, I guess I just undercutmyself, man, I get it whatever.
I'm sorry you're saying youpretty much see, three, six, two
, six, five.
Oh man, six, two point five.
I know a lot, okay, six, twopoint five, but I didn't, I
didn't really count it like thatI'm more so was just like, yeah
, maybe I'm sick.
Yeah, you know, now I feel like, because, like I'm, like I'm

(01:42):
more so was just like, yeah,maybe I'm sick.
Yeah, you know, now I feel likebecause, like I'm, because like
I'm five, five on a good day,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, five,
five, I'm six, one.
You know what I'm saying?
Huh, no, actually, actually I'm6'2".

(02:03):
If he 5'5", all right, let'snot overdo it, let's not get
crazy.
All right, let's not get crazy.
Did you ever like own likeMadden, ncaa?
Did you ever like make yourselflike at your size All the time,
all the time, that 5'5 runningback out of Carterville, georgia
, what, what?
3 Going crazy, what's that?

(02:28):
What's that running back?
Barry Sanders?
No, no, I think I see.
Yeah, it had to be the elusiveback because you know, or
Maurice Jones, drew In my day,you talking about me?
No, I'm not, I'm talking abouton the game.
Oh, no, we're going to buryevery time.
Now you shut up, you're apossession receiver, all right,

(02:49):
come on now.
No for sure, bury every time.
So you would say you put 5-5running back.
Oh, go crazy.
I'm asking 5-5 running back?
You want to see it as realisticas possible.
I want to see what it wouldlook like as a kid.
Yeah, yeah, I get it.
So more so where I'm going, isyou getting through that O-line,

(03:12):
I mean, excuse me, that D-lineand that front seven, nfl style
hit 5'5", and how much was it?
And 99 speed.
Oh damn, that's all.
No, no, no, no, no.
Why would you do that toyourself?
You said he was going the realway.
Yeah, no, everything 99 speedthough, 99 breaking tackles and

(03:33):
everything.
Oh, no, not everything, but 99speed for sure I got to have
that.
So, baby, what was your overall?
Probably about a 94, 95.
Probably about where I was inmy real life.
I hear that shit.
I got to remember how bad I wasat one point in my life
Terrible.
Alright, now let's hold backthe spit.

(03:59):
Alright, you wasn't.
Julio Didn't claim to be, orRonnie Lott None of them.
Yeah Didn't claim to be, orRonnie Lott or none of them.
Safeties Didn't claim to be no,but we was decent B.
We made a good little run out of7th grade.
8th grade.
Who was everybody out of 7thgrade?
Is that what you're starting tofind?

(04:20):
No, we're not.
We're not 30s.
You can talk about 7th grade.
It's John's class.
Oh, I Look, I can't.
I can't do nothing with y'allin high school.
Y'all have way better careersthan I.
Mr Scroggins class, you canstill bring them glory days up

(04:41):
here.
You know, I can't do nothingwith y'all in high school.
Damn how we having a podcast andthey have a conversation
Because Ruth, why not he talkingabout when they was throwing
that lob to Ruth on that boy atcornerback and Ruth just

(05:05):
snagging all of them.
Bro, we're gonna give fiveminutes in, huh?

(05:25):
Oh, y'all think we could matchup with anybody?
Five in a million league gameto 12?

(05:48):
Absolutely, we got room, man.
Well, they got our chances.
Shut your little fat ass up.
Oh no, here we go.
That's what you got.
You got me, of course, we got achance every time.
I'm just going to kill myself.

(06:09):
That's what I'm saying.
It's just to the point wherey'all get the tripping too much.
Now, vijay, I seen you joggingthe other day and you look good,
but boy, we 33.
And it hurt me.
I'm trying to tell you I reallyain't worked out in weeks.

(06:29):
It was weeks Because, again,I'm just trying to get back in
motion.
I don't like working out in thecold, bro.
I hate the cold, me, and I alsolike being outside, you know.
But it's like, bro, in thatsuper cold weather it ain't me.
We don't believe you.
Look, I'm a living testament.
That man brought me my keys andI looked around and said where

(06:50):
the car at?
Look out Early in the morningtoo.
I'm telling you that nigga ranto the corner and looked back at
you.
Woo, I swear to God, you are ahater bro.
I swear to God, you are a haterbro.
I swear to God, you are a haterbro.

(07:11):
My God.
Then, on top of that, what madeit even?
First, let me, I got to tellyou about my week.
Fuck that.
I got pissed off because one Idone called Dean, just knowing I
done made some money, oh God,duke bit the bullet on me.
And in the last three minutes,though, and that's what really

(07:32):
messed me up, that's what had mepissed, because I just knew I
was going to get right and I wasgoing to have me a night where
you know it was on Dean, and allof a sudden, everything went
downhill.
Now I'm sitting over herewatching Houston in the
championship game.
I appreciate Houston for doingwhat they were supposed to do,

(07:53):
because I didn't want to pay you.
No way, I wouldn't either.
For sure I like that.
Houston can run almost eight,nine black boys out there and be
straight.
It's all of them, ain't it?
You always make it a race, itain't a basketball game.
Oh my God, I don't want Houstonto win because of Kelvin

(08:18):
Sampson.
About time my nigga needssomething.
When was the last time a niggawon a national championship?
Huber, kevin, yeah, h,something.
One last time, a one nationalchampionship?
You, it was kevin ollie.
Kevin ollie, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah.
14, 13, yeah, something likethat.

(08:47):
I mean why we can't root forblack folks.
What's wrong with y'all.
There's nothing wrong with rootfor black folks, but any g.
You just turned it into racial.
No, I didn't.
It's not racist when I said Ijust like seeing they can run a
whole 10-man lineup of all right.
How long was kevin samson goingfrom the college basketball game

(09:08):
?
A couple days, no.
When we went to Indiana forcheating, he couldn't be around
college basketball.
He had to go to the NBA forabout six years.
Yeah, he had to go chill for afew years, six.
And then, once they opened theNIL up, he said, oh, yeah, I do
this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Y'all thought Coach Cal could dosomething.

(09:28):
Let me show you something.
And he cheat and he winning,and he winning.
Hey, but did y'all watch thatgame?
Duke and Houston?
Yes, sir, I didn't catch theend of it.
Yeah, the end was the best part.
Sean, I ain't catch the end ofit.
Yeah, the end was the best part.
Sean, I ain't going to lie toyou.
What did you say?
How long did they lock him up,dean?
Oh, they locked him up for 10minutes.

(09:49):
Duke only scored one basket,one field goal, in 10 minutes.
Yeah, in 10 minutes.
And you got the number one pickon your team.
Like I said if say he's one ofthe better prospects out of Duke
ever, they got him ranked.
I thought somebody had himranked above Dwight Howard as a

(10:10):
prospect.
Look here, man.
You know how they get when theyget the great white hole.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
See, I was going to say that,but y'all were going to say I
was racist.
I was going to say let himfinish his work.
He's an American white boy thatdunks.
You know what I mean?
Who's last?
Tyler Hero.
Him and Tyler Hero are like theonly American white boys that's
in the Is Hooter.
Whoever.
You said Red Velvet.

(10:30):
Red Velvet, yeah, but they'renot as good as Tyler Hero.
Right, right, right, he's good,he's not good.
He's not as good as them.
Why you just have a white name?
I'm just saying American whiteboy.
You know Tyler Hansborough.
I'm just saying name the ones.
That's good.

(10:50):
I mean, jj Reddick plays hisrole.
What he was supposed to be ashooter.
So you're saying American whiteboy is eight stars in the NBA.
You're saying something likethat's what we know, exactly
what I'm saying.
Which one in the NBA right nowOn the wing?
That ain't how it go down.
I mean, who blind you?
Or Stevie Wonder?
Yes, you got a glass on youready?

(11:14):
No, no, no.
If he goes to the Spurs, theSpurs get the number one pick,
yeah, because of the system hecan play.
He can still play the collegeCollege style game, you know.
But If he go to the Wizards,who probably Gonna get to number
one pick, yeah, ain't gonnawork, he not.
I mean, they might Try to,since he's white, you know.

(11:38):
So they might try to make it.
They might try To make itprofessional.
But can I play devil's Advocatereal quick on what you saying,
how you can't say that and it'sa white boy that's running the
league right now.
They might try to make itprofessional.
Can I play devil's advocatereal quick on what you're saying
?
What you're saying?
You can't say that.
And it's the white brothersrunning the league right now.
Conor who Luka?
European, european, white.
Still, yeah, he's still white,but he's not American.
Did you say American white?
Oh, my bad, my bad, he's notAmerican white.

(12:02):
I think that the game winnerthat he missed.
That's kind of what tells mewho Cooper Flagg is.
I don't trust him to put theball on the deck and go get a
bucket, like go get his ownbucket.
If Aiden was in that situationhe would have scored.
Oh, aiden would have got abucket.

(12:24):
He would have scored or gotfouled.
I'm just saying'm just sayinghe's not on the stage.
I'm just saying if he was inthat same situation, his team
may not have been in that sameposition.
This is what we need to betalking about.
We need to be talking aboutWillie, but the dude from
Florida, he's going to be good,he's going to right.

(12:44):
We need to be talking aboutWillie, but the dude from
Florida is going to be good.
He's going to the league andthen we'll forget about him.
Though who?
Because you're saying he'sgoing to be like a Maxie, in
which, in kind of like aprototypical sense, that's what
he is.
He's better than Steph, or is itDavidson?
Don't think of Steph now, butI'm just talking, I know, I know

(13:07):
, look, yeah, yeah, I'm with you, I'm with you.
He went to the championship.
Steph always got to, eventhough teams, now, I know, but
I'm just talking about the waythey're playing and where
they're shooting the ball.
Yeah, I would have to compare,like regular, regular season
numbers too, but tournament wise, yeah, you're right.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying as a player,he's better than, because what
is he?
He a point guard?
No, I'm talking about his class, no, his class.

(13:29):
Oh, sophomore, I believe,something like that.
So what's Steph do?
Three years, yeah, three years.
So he could have played.
He had offers from Georgia andFlorida in football.
Who, this dude?
Okay, but he, he did the rightthing.
I think he better than Stephthis dude.
So, yeah, absolutely okay, buthe, shit, he did the right thing
.
He did, oh, but I think hebetter know.
Uh, steph at the, at the state,at this point, yeah, I'm talking

(13:54):
about when you're not comingout of college, you ain't wrong,
I don't know.
I don't know if I can agreewith that too, because he also
in florida, steph was at atDavidson.
I'm just talking about.
I know what you're saying,that's what I'm saying, but he's
still averaging 17 at Floridathough, come on now, I mean,
that's him and 26 in thetournament.
Now, that's, that was everything.

(14:15):
Wasn't he like 25 or 24?
He probably was around aboutthe same 22.
Yeah, but you know he gettingway more shots in this game.
Right here, they were takingabout the same amount of shots.
That's unfair comparison.
I don't watch collegebasketball.
I'm not saying he's going to bebetter, I'm just saying at this

(14:36):
level, both of them, at thislevel, he was better.
I get what you're saying.
I got you.
Oh, like how I was better thanyou in sixth grade.
Who Better than who?
We ain't going to talk about it.
Yeah, he trying, I don't knowBetter than which one of these.
Oh, that was sorry.
Who you talking about?
Lee?
Oh, yeah, nobody.
Okay, all right, I was thinkingunintentionally.

(14:58):
But Cooper Flagg.
Back to Cooper Flagg.
He's going to be the number onepick.
But I don't think If he goes tothe Spurs he's going to be good
, perfect match in heaven.
Then he might walk around anddo some shit.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm going to tell you what.
Get him to Philly.
If you get Vassal Cooper Flagand Victor Wimmy Yama, it's

(15:18):
going to be hard to beat them Ontop of De'Aaron Fox.
I think he'll be straightanyway.
That's a tough one.
I think he can play Like bro ifhe go to New Orleans.
He go to Charlotte.
He tough as hell.
Trev, I think he's super.
I don't know what y'all talkingabout.
I'm not saying I'm not sayingno, he's number one, he's cut,
he get the best out of them.

(15:39):
I think with me last week abouttalking about brunny, because
he was still yeah, and if it'sbig, totally there.
But man, no, no, no, no.
You think so.
You think if you go tocharlotte and that bad ass
basketball, he gonna flourish.
No, with him.
Lamello, I don't care what it is, it's also.
You got nothing.
It's a small budget.
It's not.
It's a small budget.

(16:00):
That's who getting number one.
So it's like I get what.
That's what I'm going with Trev.
They're losers.
He meant to go make a name ofit.
He didn't mean to go win toomuch.
Here's the thing you talk aboutthe talent in Charlotte.
They have talent up there.
It's just a losing operation.
They're not there to win,they're there to sell tickets

(16:23):
and make the NBA money.
Not the number one pick.
That's all I'm saying.
If you're going to be thenumber one pick, you're the,
you're the favorite.
It's been, it's been hundredsof numbers and they call it, say
it again.
But you, what was the mellow?
You mean you was like three,three, three, three.
Well, I mean, oh To yellow,three.

(16:49):
Oh, yeah, that's right as longnow.
Why don't you?
Wow, okay, lonzo and mellowwith three, those are three,
that's right.
That's right, lee, you right,but uh, I know, but no, that's

(17:09):
all I'm saying.
He goes somewhere likewashington.
Come on now, him and him, andit's white and john boo.
No, no, white boy really gotpink through doing all that.
He already got pink carrying onmy goddamn, the best defensive

(17:34):
player in the league in the inthe tournament.
These are the teams that'sgonna have a Cooper school,
anthony Simons, and no ball,cause they're going to take the
ball.
Anthony Simon's group, I'mgoing to take the ball.
Yeah, maybe Utah.
Who was they down?

(17:55):
Yeah, they down, it'll beGordon Hayward.
That may be good A bunch.
You know what I mean.
That may be great for marketing, cause there's a bunch of white
boys like what we got marketingand, uh, you know he's gonna be
going hayward.
I think I want to see him.

(18:15):
I do, I do want to see himgonna do it.
I think it'd be better, forsure.
But I think that's a goodcomparison, though I think if
you go to the first, get thenumber one big again.
I think that'll be like that'sit.
Yeah, do y'all think that'll belike that's it?
Do y'all think he'll be abetter NBA player than Paolo?
No, and Paolo ain't even reallygot started yet.
Honestly, I can't say I don'tthink so I don't know.

(18:38):
I don't know, paolo, he ain'tgot that skill shit.
He gonna be a different type.
He gonna be like I know it wasa totally different type.
I don't think people would belaughing.
I was like bro.
I don't think y'all rememberwhen Brent Berry was coming out
of college how nice he was.
I think he's going to be likehe could be, you know, because
he could shoot a little bit.
I think he'd be like BrentBerry.
They compared him to Kawhi andJason Taylor.

(18:59):
Look, from what I've againstHouston, though, he does play
some pretty decent defense, Imean Defensively.
I didn't when Kawhi came out ofcollege.
He didn't have, he didn't think.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, he was a 6'7 big man.
He wouldn't, he wouldn'tOffensively.
What do you do now?
I mean I don't think he gone.

(19:21):
I think if he go to the Spurs,I think that would be the best.
Let me ask this, let me ask thisto y'all the whole that he's
the best player to come out ofDuke.
What do y'all stand on that?
Because I don't know, but Kyriedidn't play enough games,

(19:45):
though Did it matter?
You know what I mean.
That's why I say that that'sthe only was about to say Grant
Hill is the best, grant Hill isprobably the best.
And then you got Zion rightthere.
I mean, oh, jabari Parker, whatwere you doing when he first?
He went crazy when he firstwent to Duke, and we just talk
about just college.
I think that was wrong.

(20:06):
I think with Cooper, though,because he's got so much hype,
he leads his team in everycategory, so that's why he's
arguing it.
But even before that, with himbeing the great white hope, I
think there's so much hypearound him that he's just
getting elevated and elevatedbecause he's also playing well.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, just what you're saying.

(20:26):
Just what you're still saying Idon't like, because the first
Kyrie of my time I ain't goingto say the first Kyrie I was
saying was J Will out there.
You didn't mention him.
Oh, my goodness, you're right.
You're right.
J Will needs to be in thedivision.
J Will can't do shit with KyrieIrving.
We ain't supposed to do that.
I ain't saying he can't Holdhis back D, you ain't going to

(20:51):
do all that.
Seth Curry said the first pick.
All he had to do was see him goup and down two times.
Oh yeah, he could know morethan that man.
That was 15 years after Sarah.
No, they was at Duke together.
What are you talking about?
Seth Curry and Jack Williams,seth Curry and Kyrie?
I'm talking about Seth Curry,oh no, yeah, yeah, yeah, of
course everybody going to startabout Kyrie.
A lot of niggas said that justin open gym that Kyrie was the

(21:14):
best thing they done.
Said hey Ruth, hey man Louie,hey Porter Can't lick the stop.
A nigga to say that Play on therail, diamond Porter.
What the fuck?
You ain't good enough to lickthe dirt off our cleats.
Now let's introduce the showman.
Welcome back here.

(21:34):
We're here with the Vets.
God damn it.
Now to my far left.
Shawzy, what's the word?
You witty, ooh, ooh, ooh, shitthe word.
What's been going on, man?
What's your weekend was like?
Everything been good, exceptfor the regular.

(21:56):
You're chilling, you know.
Oh yeah, I'm just chilling.
I'm trying to write ShaggyRogers.
Man, talk to me.
What's going on?
Tell me something good.

(22:18):
I'm chilling watching a gamefrom the C-Lil.
I'm a light-skinned nigga.
I go crazy.
What your weekend was like Shitweekend was like bro, you just
that cool.
You have the whole weekend withyour shit chilling.
Yeah, basically, I like itcoming around that uh, nasty,
talk to me what's been going on.
Tell me something good.

(22:38):
Nah, man, I've just beenchilling.
Um, yeah, but you know,sometimes people be having
messed up a couple folks havingyou messed up.
Couple folks had me messed uplast week.
I'm going to talk about it alittle later because I don't let
nothing go.
You know what I mean.
I just hold on to it and thenwhen I get a platform I'm going
to expose it.

(22:59):
Oh, you got something to say towhat happened this weekend?
No, there's something thathappened last week.
I ain't going to say whathappened this weekend.
No, that's something thathappened last week.
I ain't going to say no now.
But you know, don't play, don'tplay with me.
Oh, yes, if you're hearing thenoise, it's just me and the boss
getting there.
I got to get in my bag.

(23:21):
Well, coming to you for a rightAC Lee, talk to me, what's
going on.
Tell me something good.
Oh man, look, I'll tell yousomething good.
Friday I go to El Dorado and Iend up accidentally crashing.

(23:42):
What looked like a date Got upout of there when, at a date.
Well, I don't know, nobodyknows.
Then I went to the local, raninto Dean, and it was really fun
.
It was weird, though, right,because I walk in and L'Oreal

(24:03):
F&F is on, but it ain't no inthere, it's up for him.
That's the when you in theretoo, all right.
Later, though, that was beforeI got them, so I don't even want
to look at the dance floorbecause I know they're rapping
the soul.
I ain't saying the n-word.
Oh yeah, they would say fuckNicky Pree, absolutely.

(24:25):
And then we.
That's your ass, mr Bothman.
Long story short, you know weget in there, get a drink, have
a good time me and Dean and 100Shots comes on by Dolph.
Right, it's three white girls.
They rap it word for word.
That's it.
I know what they're into.

(24:48):
What are they into?
Ac, almond Almond cheese.
What are they into AC?
Since you said that, what arethey into?
Ask for me to know.
I just said I know.
Oh, okay, but you know that'snot my bad, that ain't my cup of

(25:12):
tea.
Saturday I hung out with somefriends on the Beltline.
I was supposed to kick it withDean after, but he be full of
shit.
I got sleepy.
So I said he lied.
I got sleepy, he told me he wascoming to hang with me.

(25:32):
I told you I wasn't going tohang with you before you didn't.
You didn't.
You said I'm coming back tocourt of you, I gotta touch some
water, and then I'm coming backdown the road, then you gotta
touch some water.
That's what he said.
I gotta touch some water,that's what he said.
I got to touch some water.
And come on back down the road,you need to take a bath.
All that shit floating in there, hey, hey, hey, relax, I'm

(25:58):
swinging it back to the beast.
I'm swinging it back to thebeast still here, what you do
this week.
I'm swinging it back to the V.
Do you think you could swingyourself?
I think it's Friday night.
It started.
I end up going to El Dorado.
I met Nastin AC up there.

(26:18):
I had my dog, taj, with me andShaw.
You remember that question youasked last week about when was
the last time you got realfucked up this weekend.
Oh, I got real, real tuned inthis weekend like it was.
It was rough.
It was rough to where.
That Saturday morning was godawful.
And then, you know, we stilltried to go back out to the

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battery and tried to watch theBraves.
We thought it was going to geta good show this weekend.
We thought the Braves was goingto bring it home.
The Hawks, they did their job.
They got a bit of a fix.
They did absolutely.
What was the final?
I was about to say by that timeI think I was already drunk,
too much for me to care about.
Well, you're interrupting meagain and telling me that, hey,

(27:05):
interrupt me again and tell methat hey, hey, hey, you need to
control yourself.
Okay, let me tell you, we ain'ttrying to smell your bowels.
Okay, you need to controlyourself.
When Y'all heard that, I didn'tsay nothing about that.
No, I'm just bullshitting, butno, but yeah, friday I mean

(27:26):
Saturday Wrapped up, we camehome and Sunday was god awful,
and I ended up just, I slept inFor the rest of the night.
Now, can I, can I promotesomething real quick, cause I am
going to Myrtle Beach tomorrow,but I understand Friday is the
trail ride In Yorkville, so I'mto make it back in time to be
there Saturday.
So if you don't have no planson going, that's where you need

(27:49):
to be.
Alright, you going from MyrtleBeach to the country.
Man, look, I got my boots on.
What the hell you think MyrtleBeach is On the low, on the low
roof.
But look, I'm going to go fromMyrtle Beach straight to the
trail ride.
So if you're looking forsomething to do, we're going to

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be in Yorkville.
I won't be there Friday, butI'll be there Saturday.
It's all weekend.
Yeah, it's all weekend.
Who are you?
Somebody?
That's all.
I'm just somebody trying totell everybody about the trail
ride.
You feel me?
That's all.
I'm just somebody trying totell everybody about the trail
ride, town business.
You feel me?
That's all Bringing it in Townbusiness.

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That's it.
I don't mind it.
But yeah, come on, come on,because, boy, this one right
here, it's going to set the tonefor the rest of the summer.
Do they be out there?
They be out there, but I toldyou to come on, they be out
there, they be out there, but Idon't told you to come on.
Maybe I done.
Well, you know I used tocouldn't go.

(28:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, youcouldn't go.
He, he's a free man now.
No, I'll say it, let him speak.
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,okay, okay, talk to the folks.
Hey, I'll see that picture ofmichael vick and his brother.
We don't want to talk aboutMichael.
That was a beautiful thing,just seeing those two black men,
convicted felons, out therecoaching football because they

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turned their lives around andthey found God, mark, it did.
It sounded good when I said it.
No, once a year.
I didn't want to give him timeto get all that out.
Now let's bring it back.
Ask him one more time, nancy,why?
Why?
Why you think he couldn't comeout?
Why you can come out to thetrail right.

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Last year I had competingpriorities and I decided to do
hey, hey, let's, let's not be so.
Um, let's not be so official.
That's the answer.
Okay, oh, that's the answer.
Well, this one I'm going totell you.
You need to be that sad If youhear it.
No, it's just me and the boy.

(29:55):
Get that, I got to get in mybag.
Hey, be that sad Boy, I'm goingto have my boots on the ground
and that fan, where them fans atthere it is.
Hey, but look, understand, thisis what I love about a trail
ride it goes all night.
So, look, I brought two bottlesof liquor.

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When I came, I ran out ofliquor.
They got what they call themoonshine man.
The moonshine man say give me$15 and you can drink moonshine
all night.
All you got to do is go in thetent and get a cup.
Okay, so that's the type ofenvironment you going into, okay
.
So hold on.
You went through two bottles ofLister and still felt the need

(30:38):
to go to the moonshine man.
Well, it's community, right.
So I didn't drink all twobottles.
I'm, you know, pouring shots,doing whatever you know.
Make sure everybody's straight.
You got you some boots.
I ain't got no boots, but I dogot something on order, though
they should be here likeWednesday or Thursday.
So you was the bartender.
Hey, hey, don't get.

(30:59):
Don't, don't get this, don'tget this fucked up.
Okay, I'm trying to be polite,yeah, yeah, but I'm taking care
of my folks.
You know what I mean.
We take care of each other.
That's what bartenders do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, hey, don'tpiss me off.
Don't piss me off.
That's not wrong with being abartender.
Okay, I ain't nobody'sbartender, but I'm telling you

(31:20):
that.
You know, as a whole, we wasdrinking.
I spent a lot of money withbartenders.
Y'all are funny, bro.
Let's break it here.
Man is is.
Do you think that?
Um, that if you are a bartender, for a male part like, excuse
me, not for a male part of me if, or if you're a male bartender,
do you think that droppedpoints or something, or the

(31:41):
reason why me?
I'm just asking in general,like like on being cool.
Not even I mean, I'm justasking in general, like on being
cool, not even I mean, I don'tknow, I would just like being
cool, or I think if I see a malebartender, I think he's a punk.
I'm asking you I don't know, Ididn't say that no, no, no, no,
I respect him.
Okay, that's how you do so.
That's why I'm saying what'syour favorite bartender?
A male, little people, what thecame in the row with either one

(32:03):
?
I wish the court male or female, what the fuck?
We support male and femalebartenders.
And then you asking me who'syour favorite bartender?
Those are two differentconversations.
I'm just asking what's yourfavorite?
A woman?
Okay, alright, she knows whoshe is.

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We bring it in.
We talking town business man.
I don't really know.
I don't really know how tobring it in.
I got a question y'all want tobecome the TMZ of Cartersville?
What a report on messy Facebookbusiness.
Y'all remember when?
Want to report on Matthew'sFacebook business?

(32:46):
We got Al Roker here.
Y'all remember when I was AlRoker and you used to work with
the Buckingham Tribune?
That's real now.
I used to be a real journalistout here in these streets.
I don't want to become that.
But we can't talk about townbusiness.
I mean what y'all want tobecome that, but we can't talk
about town business.
Which one, I mean, which one doyou want to go to?

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I was going to let Lee bringthat one in.
Okay, because he don't care.
No, not even that he didn'tcare.
What is we talking about intown business?
I ain't got nothing for townbusiness.
What we talking about out there?
Anyway, about the stuff thathappened at the victory At the

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At the gas station.
The young lady who killed A 65year old man At the gas station
In Cartersville.
When the fuck did this happen?
I didn't know this happened.
I didn't know about the damnmurder in Cartersville.
Where the victory?
At?
Right behind Cartersville.
What a victory.
It is Right behind CartersvilleFootball field.

(33:51):
How did she kill him?
She shot him in the head.
She shot him in the mouth, shothim in the mouth, yeah, so from
what I read I ain't read it inthe last 20 miles, so I don't
know I don't know for sure, butthe man was talking, he sped off

(34:14):
, came back, put his head in hercar and she shot him pretty
much, and if I got it wrong, Igot it wrong.
I ain't trying to be right, butI'm trying to be as accurate as
possible.
From what I read, so, uh, yeah.
So I don't know if it's an echo, self-defense.
Honestly, from what I read, itkind of sounds like it kind of

(34:34):
sounds like self-defense fromwhat I read.
Now, I mean, I don't know, Idon't know for sure, but just
out of what I read, it's kind ofIn my brain.
If you stick your head in mycar and I don't know you, I
don't know what the hell you got, that's right.
I feel scared On top of youspeeding off and then coming
back.
You know what I mean.
So you know, did she feel infear of her life or do they feel

(35:06):
that she was in fear of herlife?
Yeah, she's a lady.
That helps, that's it.
I mean, that's kind of how itlooks.
It's an elderly, she a lady,but she a stud, so she a.
Why y'all laughing?
I'm just why y'all laughing.

(35:27):
So she like to pull thescissors out the crayon box?
I'm not saying it like that,I'm just saying I'm just saying
that they don't.
They gonna look at it differentand that's the truth.
We know that's gonna be thetruth, because she ain't just a.
Did y'all watch?
Did y'all watch her?

(35:47):
Did y'all watch you?
I finished drewsky's love showyesterday, oh yeah, and watching
him kiss that stud was one ofthe funniest things I've ever
seen in my life.
They should have picked uh,switcheroo.
He a fool for not pickingswitcheroo.
I think I think he left withSwitcheroo for real.
But I think because the oldgirl she had a nigga, still

(36:09):
Bambi, she was talking about themoney.
Anyway.
She called Dawg on the phonelike listen, hey, we want the
money, but listen.
Then she called him back andsaid hey, I'm leaving you.
He said, okay, he know, yourman was coming home.
Bambi said she pregnant byDrewski.
Right now, I think Bambi waspregnant from the start.
Bambi, the one who won her.

(36:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, bambiain't pregnant.
By the way, I'm Drewski man.
She pregnant by Drewski, laidup with Ruby Rose.
She from Memphis.
I know they say that shitwasn't real.
Oh, really Well, oh really Well.
Oh, no, that wasn't real.
But, trey, you know about theMemphis, you know about the
Memphis girl.
You know how they.

(36:52):
Oh, okay, my bad Dan.
You know, I thought we had a runat one time.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, got it.
Oh, oh, yeah, I got it, got it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got it, gotit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Where is Gotti at man?

(37:14):
Gotti's somewhere with herlittle baby.
I was going to say prison.
Nah, she got her shit together.
Why you always trying to putsomebody in jail?
It's typically they displaybehavior.
Nah, gott, gotta get ittogether.
I mean that's most niggas thatgo to college.
They figure it out.
Whether they graduate or not,you figure it out.

(37:36):
You got no choice, regardlessof the college.
You gotta figure it out.
Everybody finna give younothing.
Nah, some people get stuff.
Speaking of Ruby Rose, she was.
Nah, some people get stuff theyget.
You know, speaking of Ruby Rose,she was talking about it, for
that's women.
That's a whole differentballgame.
All women gone and especiallyif you fine, you always gonna

(37:59):
get the advantage on everythingcompared to something fat and VJ
looking.
You know like if you're a man,I'm more so.
Like like being know like ifyou're a man, like being real,
if you're a man and you're fat,yeah, if you're fat and you
already ain't.
On all that, come on, you shutthe fuck up.
You keep shooting extra shots.

(38:20):
I wasn't saying that about you.
I'm just saying but no, forreal, though.
For real though.
Look if you was big as justsaying.
But no, for real, though.
For real though, look.
Look If you was big as hell andloose, big as fuck.
You big as fuck, and you gotloose skin and bad skin.
You full of eggs.
You don't sit in a chair, frostyFlake, I'm flicking off.

(38:42):
You don't sit in a chair.
Bad ass, fucking ass.
You know what?
What if they have a goodpersonality?
And flicking off?
Bad ass, fucking ass.
You know what?
We're going to get some jokes,nigga.
What if they have a goodpersonality?
Jokes, yeah, you know that.
I don't mean that.
No ill Jokes, that's it.
So hold on.
How you going to be a racewarrior if you ain't out here

(39:02):
caring about people'spersonality?
I do.
First of all, don't put allthis on me.
I ain't claiming to be no racewarrior.
You know what I mean.
I am a community advocate.
That's what I am.
I love everybody.
But you said I'm going to askTrell, so let me ask you.

(39:24):
So if you got a big girl and shefunny and she kind of funny
looking, do you still take, like, do you still take that?
Talk to them.
Do you still like?
I can't help that.
I'm saying can you still like?
Can you not take her serious,like?
Or is she still like?

(39:45):
You know, is she my cousin?
I don't know.
Trev just said she got thatpersonality and all that.
I didn't say that.
I said mobile got eggs.
But you said, when they keptsaying what if she big and she
pretty, never said that, no,they was saying it.

(40:06):
I thought they was asking you.
When you said that, no, theywas saying it, I thought they
was asking you and you said,okay, never mind, probably I was
saying it different.
I thought you said that theyhad to be funny or something
like that.
But no, would you what?
I would, cindy or Cindy VeronicaVillalobos, if they was big and
funny looking, would you stickthem or not even stick them?
Would you entertain them?
I guess, funny looking, wouldyou stick them or not even stick
them?
Would you entertain them?
I guess?
If they was funny though Let mesee Would you take her out?

(40:30):
Okay, all right, talking aboutentertaining like that, because
I was about to say I done beenaround you Negroes long enough
to know that y'all wereentertaining some shit.
That's why I say that Just toyou know, to work it out Not no,
motherfucker, that big sl, youknow.
That's why I say Not themotherfucker that big Slouchy,
but what if they Jokes?
But what if they Jokes?
That's what you were saying.

(40:50):
Okay, that's what you weresaying.
That's what you were saying.
I thought you were saying, likeshe had to make jokes and shit.
No Jokes, you make jokes.
Okay, that's more.
So I was saying thismotherfucker wearing the couch
down, it's gonna be all thatLike the cushion.
Look like this.
When she got up Wearing out myseat, you can hit a flow creek

(41:15):
when she walk.
That'd be funny to me.
Don't text her.
You hear that she's sliding onthe ground.
Your big ass gonna flop on mycouch.
Sit on the ground.
Your big ass gonna flop on mycouch.
Sit on the floor.
Sit on the floor.
Oh, get over.
Oh, why you talk to that manlike that?

(41:37):
For me, I was in different phaseof my life.
Y'all never sat on the couch.
Fat motherfucker, you fall inthere.
Motherfucker, hey, chill, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga,
nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga,nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga,
nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga,nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga,
nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga.

(42:02):
That guy a damn good offhand,hey.
Nah, y'all had to tell somebodyelse.
You know me goddamn flopping onmy cup Shit.
Yeah, shout out to him.
That's my Masonic brother.
Is this good defense?
Yeah, he's just missing rightnow.
Dude, right here, everybody'smissing.
Everybody needs to play gooddefense.
There you go, start up.

(42:23):
Y'all can say it's shittybasketball.
But there you go, y'all can sayshitty basketball.
But I like the way they movethe ball.
It ain't all that ISO shit thatthe NBA provides.
I'm just saying it's realbasketball.
If you don't like to watch it,I like to watch it, but it helps
as a teaching point as a coach.
You know, like Hallmark Channel,lifetime, lifetime two b, I

(42:48):
like that.
You know, like they had a movie83.
Yeah, and that's the way youwatch those movies and
everything right, but that don'tmake them good because people,
I don't need everybody shooting,right, but it's, it's some
lifetime better than uh, thatbetter than Django.
Yes, sir, I know these niggasrunning.

(43:09):
Yeah, they gonna take off.
You said that Lifetime movie'sbetter than Django.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding Lee.
I'm about to say are you a man?
I'm kidding Lee.
Django.
I swear to God, houston is gonnabe on fire this whole week.
Oh, my God, I'm on fire thiswhole week.
But oh my god, tell my liar,I'm on fire.
She should work tonight.

(43:30):
All weekend I had fun at you.
You sent a good time, bro,she's in a good time.
I done.
Came down swishes on the lane.
Oh, it was on the brain.
I can't maintain.
So I'm saying I keep it coming.
I just wanted to.
You made that up, though,though that ain't nothing.
No, I'm freaking out.
Yeah, no, you need to saysomething like from zero, like I

(43:52):
can't leave Drankalong.
That's you.
Then why would I sing his song?
Oh, you want to make your ownsong, like you can make your own
song.
Hey, no, I literally just yousaid he just made that.
That's your mom.
That's a corner bang three,that's tough.
That's your song.
Bj, whatever that was.

(44:12):
That's just so quick.
Yeah, yeah, that's just fun.
Hey, we talked about um justlast week, a little bit kind of
sort of.
But, dean, I wasn't here.
I had.
I actually do.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, I was about to throw thetopic to you.
I know, come on with it.

(44:32):
Talking too much, all right,I'm sorry, shut up, I've been
drinking, like y'all say, butanyway, we're talking about this
last week.
We're talking about the blackchurch being the downfall of the
community, and we didn't reallydive too deep into it.
We kind of focused a little biton Marvin's style, but I felt
like this was a topic that youshould touch on.

(44:53):
You hit me with one right there.
Well, I, you know I will saythis, and I've been saying this,
so I'll say it again is that ifthe black church is going to
get young kids and young adultsinto the church they got to be,

(45:14):
they got to get outside thechurch and work the outreach
part of their mission, right?
What's the mission?
The mission is just supposed tobe and I know we have to hold
on, no, but I know where hegonna go with it but the mission
is to get people to to god.

(45:34):
Right, all right, the missionis to get people to god.
With that, we can't stay in theconfines of the church.
We have to get outside thechurch and use our tools and
resources to bring people in.
Now, do I know exactly how todo that in this day and age with
this generation?
Not necessarily, but I knowvisibility would help, right?

(45:58):
So, being visible in everyaspect of community, whether it
be sports or we doing somethingon the hill or what have you,
that visibility will help.
Sorry, I don't like doingserious talk.
You ain't laughing.

(46:19):
Okay, all right, all in all,that's where it will start is to
take the resources inside thechurch, take them outside the
church, inside the church, takethem outside the church and try
to bring the people in.
But as far as the downfall ofthe black community, I don't
know, I don't know, I thinkthat's not on them as a whole.

(46:43):
I think it's one of them thingswhere the blame can kind of be
spread out a little bit, becauseI can blame parents for not
getting their kids to church.
I mean, I can blamegrandparents or their parents
for not expressing how importantchurch was to them.

(47:05):
So it's generational shit thatwe got to get by.
I agree with that.
Hold on, I definitely agreewith that.
Don't read the shit.
Don't read it yet, bro.
You're rushing to the comment.
Don't read it yet, bro.
Don't read it yet.
Yeah, but we're here to have aconversation and well, you kind

(47:31):
of just said a bunch of thatreally didn't go in the
direction I was trying to pushthis conversation, being like,
no, I'm about to stop theconversation, but that's the
truth, that's.
That's not what you said before, and I don't mean to cut you
off, but I like I said what hesaid, though was some real, like
all the way top to bottom.
He did say a bunch, and that'skind of the conversation going,

(47:52):
but that's also when Rue and himshould have had that I'm saying
.
He said a lot of stuff thatwasn't going in the direction I
was trying to drive theconversation.
Oh no, no, I figured I wasn'tinvalidating what he was saying.
Yeah, no, no, I, I knew that,but I was just saying, as is
rude he was still, he was askinga question in the midst of what
he was saying and that's why Ithought that they both should

(48:12):
have had a conversation on.
Them two should have had thatconversation on.
When he asked about the missionpart, like, and I know, did you
ask?
I, I tried to the best of myability, but I don't know the
mission of nobody's church.
You know what I mean.
It may vary, get paid.
That's the mission.
I'm being serious, I ain'tlaughing.

(48:35):
I know you are and we done hadconversations like this before.
I know you are.
You said tools and resources.
You should just stop theresources.
Look, ruth, I understand why youview it that way, and maybe
it's some church's idea thatthat's all they want.
But the dude just locked thepeople in there and said, man,

(49:00):
we need $40,000.
What?
There ain't no such thing.
Nah, the worst part was when hetold the preachers they gotta
spend money, cause it cost to beup there.
Block the door, block the door.
See more of a sad he chargedthem, for he charged the folks
in the pool pit more than he didthe folks in the congregation,

(49:21):
like I, I don't know.
I'm with y'all on that.
That ain't right, all right,but we got to go somewhere after
this.
All right, cause this ain'tguaranteed, all right.
I think the church, this ain'tforever.
I think the church is apolitical chess piece for, for

(49:44):
cert, for politicians.
I don't, I don't think so.
I would disagree because I'venot seen it on different levels.
I've not seen it where it hasbeen political, but I've also
seen it where it's for your good.
So you know, you just gotta findthe right one.
The right one, what?
The right church?

(50:05):
So you finding the right church, or you think the right one
would the right church, allright.
So so you're finding the rightchurch, or you finding the right
word, because whatever churchyou go to is going to be full of
heathens and sinners in therethat ain't doing nothing but
lying and gossiping and stealing.
Let me play this one off thelord's name, because that's what
they do.
No, the people ain't doing it.
The members ain't stealing.
Hey, you crazy as hell, youdon't think the motherfucker in

(50:27):
the pool?
No, no, no, I ain't talking.
If you get an opportunity tosteal something, he gonna steal.
I get that.
I get that.
But it's life.
Though you can't even crosssomething outside.
You can't expect, for the it'snothing in life that you can
expect to be perfect.
Why would you expect the churchto be perfect?
You know what I mean, becauseit's the church.

(50:49):
No, you still got human beingsinvolved.
So human beings are crooked,they lie, they cheat, they do
all that.
So you can't expect.
Tell me, motherfucker, beentalking about this book for the
longest.
You said I expect no one saidanything about expecting someone
to be Okay.
Alright, my bad, but I expect agrown ass person to know right

(51:09):
from wrong.
Y'all been talking about thesame book for years.
I agree with that.
The church is full of fuckingwrong.
Y'all been talking about thesame book for years.
I agree with that.
When you leave church you turninto a he God damn, ain't nobody
Revised it or wrote down alittle synopsis or nothing of

(51:30):
that motherfucker.
There's different versions thatcome out of what I have a
different version.
If a nigga say, turn the page,such as this, and that everybody
really is, I mean I was gonnalet y'all go.

(51:56):
He's cool because he, he knowhe in the matrix.
He said I'm cool, I'm fine overhere.
He got caught up with me lastweek.
No, no, no, this is what me andhim talking about.
He knows what's going on.

(52:27):
Let me keep the boat with y'allon how I operate.
All right, so I'm a firmbeliever, I'm a christian.
I'm a firm believer in god.
Okay, uh, but the church doesnot designate how I move.
Okay, if he throws so with that, I have done my own work, done
my own study, right.
So I'm in.

(52:49):
What conclusion you came up with?
What you mean?
You just said I've done my workand study and I said what
conclusion did you come up with?
Yeah, I believe in god.
Yeah, that's, that's myconclusion.
What else else?
What do you mean with us?
What else did you get from it?
I got from it that a lot offolks in the Old Testament was

(53:14):
having multiple wives and shit,and all of a sudden it's even
better.
That's frowned upon.
If you want to know, what I gotfrom it is that I can make
mistakes and still be aChristian as long as I ain't
nobody talking about.
I'm just saying no, no, no.

(53:35):
So here's the thing.
Right, and I think you'refocusing too much on the
religion portion of it.
Right, but I'm religious, I'mnot spiritual.
Yeah, you know what I mean, andwhen I finish my sentence, you
probably would have a betterresponse, right, so, but you're
focusing on the religious pieceof it and it's more so.

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The institution that is thechurch, the institution that is
asking black people for a 10 taxevery year, plus the extras
throughout the year.
One would say that the churchasks for more than the
government.
You know what I mean.
But, like, where is the moneygoing?
And we and that's where theconversation around the black

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church it's college fund.
I'm sorry, no, no, I know, butthe point being is that's where
the conversation around thechurch being the downfall of the
black community, because theblack community often invests so
much into the church, but thosepeople who are investing into
the church aren't getting thereturns and it's just like any
other uh system out here.

(54:41):
Where we talk about oppressionof black people, when we're
seeing it in our own churches byour own people, I get that.
I think you're correct.
But when we're talking aboutalmost five to ten years of the
church barely really survivingbecause ain't nobody going to
church Depends on where you'reat Young people are not going to

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church.
I hate the group.
Do not go to church, bro,people are going.
You know what you're, bro.
You are in an area where, where, where, a lot of the black
churches aren't totallyenergized.
Man, I'm telling you, are goingto church, they're going to
church.
Churches are making money.
Indeed, I don't have been allover the world and everybody

(55:27):
don't go to church like that,like they do in america, I agree
, but you go down to albany themare going to church.
You say, albany, george, youknow they're going to church,
get off the island.
Until I don't ask look, yeah,I'm with you.
I still believe, look, yeah,I'm with you.
I still believe, because I'veseen it, I've seen it when I was

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from state to here that ourgeneration ain't going to church
, like, like, like our parentsgeneration that bother you.
No, because he don't go.
I don't go.
Why you don't go?
I'm lazy.
No, no, I'm lazy.
What I need to go up there for,that's why you don't go.
No, it ain't.

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It ain't that room, cause I gowhen I need to, but what's the
need, what's the but?
I can do it on my own.
I'm good on my own.
I don't, I don't, I don't, Idon't.
But hold on real quick, realquick.
You saying you do it on your own, that's not how God asked us to
walk.
Though, if you're going to getto the religious part of it,
we're supposed to, didn't?

(56:30):
I just say I do it when I haveto.
I'm just saying, all right,yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Yeah, I know, yeah, but itain't like that.
I'm not having differentinteractions like this without
the church.
I just go when I want to.
You know what I mean?

(56:53):
I'm still Tithing.
Yeah, I'm still.
I'm tithing too.
I said, no, I'm not.
I was about to say I said myman, a check once a month.
But you know what I'm saying?

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I believe, I believe, is that alaw?
Is that a law?
No, the law is taxed.
That's what I'm saying.
They don't tax it, man, that'swhat I'm saying.
You can't even cut your.
You can't cut a tree down inyour front yard without being
taxed.
Okay, I can't cut a tree down,it's a non-profit.

(57:44):
That's what the church is.
Yeah, they're 501c3.
Thank you, I work with them ona database of issues.
And, dean, what was the purpose?
How was the 501c3 made?
For who to do it?
Keep going Rude.
Now is not the time for Dean tobe talking about that.

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When it comes to 501c3s andmoney and that's a, that's a
sore subject.
Oh, chill out.
No, you all right, shut yourgoddamn mouth.
You about to break the newsthough.
Nah, we good, I'm not gonna getthem folks.
Yeah, I wasn't gonna tell youto give them no energy.
Yeah, no, but you have a.

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But you had a topic you wantedto talk about.
But before we get to your topic, hey, what's up?
I don't know.
I was just gonna say what's up.
Next topic yeah, yeah, I mean,what are y'all on?
No, I really.
I wanted to transition thatthough.
I wanted to jump in from whatyou said, how you kept saying
that you have your own reasons.

(58:47):
That kind of like made me.
It made me want to go into,like, the silent struggles for
me and like, bro, just me and ingeneral, like I don't know the
silent struggles that we gothrough, are those some of the
reasons that can keep you fromgoing to church?
Or they can keep you from justfeeling like you're doing you
got to do everything by yourself, or keep you from just feeling
like you got to do everything byyourself.
What kind of topic is this?
Well, hold on, you ain't neverhad to deal with it, I got it.

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You want them niggas that areplay tough in front of everybody
, but in reality, you wantniggas that probably need to
have it more than a lot of folks, because, again, you can battle
up a lot of shit, but thenagain, sometimes them walls get,
they can eat at you a lot morethan what you think.
Oh, seriously, though, I don'tbattle up much.
Well, that's all I'm saying.

(59:33):
So that's why we're asking aquestion, that's why we're
talking out loud to everybody.
But the thing is, what he'sasking is about like and I don't
think it's necessarily my case,but I don't think it's
necessarily my case but I don'tseen, I don't seen situations
where it's men that want to cometo church and the first thing
they want to do is bring them tothe front, because the church

(59:54):
has been talking all along andeverybody already know what's
going on.
You know what I mean.
And maybe he go along with itthat day, maybe he don't, but
then he don't return for thatreason, because everybody don't
want to be the center, right,right, sometimes.
Sometimes they want to gothrough that shit by themselves,
but that also go.
Why I say, like, is that?
Is that like a personal thing?

(01:00:15):
Like, do men or we, justbecause we're so much out for me
and we'll put all this, we'llput all the weight on our back
because we don't want nobodyelse to go through what we're
going through?
I would say that it varies, butfor the most part, yeah, men
like us in this room, that'swhat we're going to do.
So I mean, you know we can.

(01:00:42):
Well, I say that we live indifferent worlds than the
initial man that I'm talkingabout, because if we're talking
about the church here, righthere in Bartow County, we ain't
talking about the church.
We're talking about black menand bottling up their emotions
and not being fears of beingvulnerable.
Okay, so I didn't know, weweren't talking about that and

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going to church.
No, no, no Again, it wasn'tnecessarily about church, it was
just more so, like thestruggles that we put on
ourselves as people.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, becauseis that like and I just mixed
that in with why you said youdidn't go to church?
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yes,because sometimes you know you
don't want to be vulnerable, youknow what I mean.
You want to deal with that shit, how you deal with it and move

(01:01:27):
forward.
And I ain't mad at no man tohandle that shit like that,
because there's been plenty ofdays where I do but, but is it
the healthiest way?
Probably not the other ways todo it?
Yeah, but it don't fuckingmatter.
It don't matter, like, if we'rebeing honest, if you want to

(01:01:51):
have this conversation about whyare men on this whole bottled
up and not letting theiremotions out?
Because nine times out of ten,it doesn't fucking matter.
Guess what the light's got tostay on.
Need gas in the car?
Oh, we need to keep the damnkey.
Yeah, you can be hurting goingthrough stuff, but at the end of
the day, if you're somebodywho's providing, whether it's

(01:02:12):
just for yourself or you'reproviding for other people what
you're going through don'treally fucking matter.
Yeah, it matters, it hurts, butif you got to provide.
Man, you got to see, you gotyour own responsibility, type
shit.
Yeah, we know that, and but no,that's kind of how.
But that's how we die at 46.
And that's true.
That's how we died 55.
But I mean what you say, allright, what you, why you feel

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that, why you, what you said,you, you can't say that's why we
died for 46.
You don't know that the, thelife that you lived up to 46, is
the reason why you died.
I'm not taking about that,though.
I'm not going to the doctor.
That's not being silent, that'sbeing fucking stupid.
That shit is put here for us touse and you don't use it

(01:02:59):
because you sorry that you,instead of you get your big
sorry.
It's up going to the doctor,like you said, that all of us do
it, damn.
I know I should have did this,but you don't fucking do it.
That's sorry.
That's not being silent.
You know better.
Once again, we get back to this.
As a man, you know better.
Nah, you right, but I'm sayinghow many people use that excuse,

(01:03:22):
though, or say that I've beendealing with this for so long?
That's an excuse.
That's an excuse, or I got todo this.
We all go through the same shit.
You ain't went throughsomething that ain't somebody
else that went through.
I have, though you have nobodyelse.
No, no, no, I'm just saying,but you got to understand.

(01:03:47):
It's friend groups.
So we always, we all got eachother to depend on.
Everybody went throughsomething, but we all ain't went
through the same thing.
Right, all right, everybodyain't got that so, but that shit
don't matter.
You say it don't matter when youtalk about people.
I hate how you talk aboutpeople.

(01:04:08):
Sometimes hold on, hold on,hold on, cause you try to.
You say it don't matter, but itbe a nigga that done blew his
brains out over that same matter.
You know what I mean.
It matters.
It matters.
We gotta find out, we gottafigure out healthy, we gotta
figure out healthy ways to helpeach other.

(01:04:29):
But that's on you to figure outhow to deal with your shit.
It's not somebody else's job,right?
So if you can bottle up andfunction, bottle up and function
.
If you need to let it out, letit out.
If you need therapy, go totherapy.
If you need a trick off andfuck off, trick off and fuck off

(01:04:51):
.
You know what I mean.
Whatever, it is for you tofigure it out.
It is on you to figure thatshit out.
So that's why I say, when I sayit doesn't matter, when I say
it doesn't matter, it doesn'tfucking matter, because it's
your responsibility to figureyour shit out.
So why are we talking about itas a whole?
Alright, hold on, hold on,because if we're not trying to

(01:05:17):
figure out solutions to help thenext man, what the fuck are we
talking about?
Okay, so if it don't matter, itdon't matter.
Don't ask me the question.
You know what I mean.
Like it should matter, becausewe are here on a on a limited
period of time and one of theobligations that we have in this
world is to help each other.

(01:05:38):
So if you can't help the nextman, let me say go ahead.
The focus should be helpingyourself.
How are you helping?
Listen, listen, I get whatyou're saying.
Yeah, how are you helpingsomebody else?
And you fucked up.
Hold on, let me tap in beforehe responds.
I'm with you.
Just hold on.
Let me tap in before heresponds.

(01:05:59):
God damn, but y'all don't wantto come.
All these deep ass types whenon, yeah, but you just keep
talking.
Come on, hey T, you want to?
No, letting go, no, but youfocus on helping people.

(01:06:21):
Yes, sir, I do, I do, andthat's great.
But I think sometimes you getblinded in your focus of helping
people that some people don'twant to help themselves.
These people have been givenmultiple opportunities and
multiple alternatives to changetheir lives and at some point,
if you are stretching yourselftoo thin for somebody who won't
even stretch thin for their ownselves, no fuck that, figure it

(01:06:45):
out, because I'm putting myselfin your situation by trying to
help you out of your situationthat you don't want to leave.
Bro, I am not stretching myselftoo thin by giving you
information and affirmations youknow what I mean that you can
come up out of this whatever youwin, alright, and giving you
the information to help yourself.

(01:07:06):
That's personal to you, I'm not, but that's not everybody else.
And the thing is, when we havethese conversations and debates,
you take the way that you viewit and expect everybody to view
it that same way, and that's law.
But no, you say, hey, it don'ttake shit for me to help people.

(01:07:28):
I could say I got so much goingon in my house in my life that I
don't have anything to help.
I don't have the time to giveanybody information, because the
time that I'm using, givingthem information is fucking up.
What I gotta do?
Just to keep my lights on, Ican have information, but if I
don't have the time to give itout, I'm gonna hoard it.
At least keep, keep my together.

(01:07:48):
I mean, how much time do ittake to say that, look bro, I
can look, you can go here, here,here for resources, and I
believe in that's all you gottasay.
How do I get put into asituation?
Look, I, I'm not trying to lookand I'm not trying to say that
y'all need to be me, not at all,but I'm just saying it.

(01:08:09):
Don't take that much energy.
I feel I thought, yeah, so letme, let me, just let me.
Maybe maybe I'm just crazy.
Whatever it is that you can helpsomebody with, I'm sure it's
being.
No, I'm not.
I'm not the saying to you.
I'm just saying in general, ifyou was to help somebody, if

(01:08:30):
it's pointing them in adirection, that shit has been
available longer than we've beenalive.
So, once again, if you don'twant to help yourself, if I came
to you in dire need, man, toddman my foot, I just don.
Man, todd man my foot.
I just don't know what to dowith my foot.
This shit keeps swelling up.

(01:08:54):
You got gout, motherfucker.
What do I have to do, todd, goto the doctor.
I'm going to tell you to getthat amputated before you fuck
something else up.
But if I don't tell you to goto the doctor every time, I
shouldn't know to go to thatthere at times.
But I'm saying, I'm saying whatenergy does it take for me to
tell you take your country tothe doctor for the fifth time?

(01:09:15):
Do you think I'm going?
But it don't matter, but holdon, maybe you will one day,
maybe you won't, but what arethe chances you get the
opportunity to do that?
Because, again, when we talkabout helping, a lot of the
helping that's done isintentional.
You build into your schedulehey, I'm gonna be here to do
this, to give back.

(01:09:35):
But, like, when that's not inyour schedule, you go to work,
you go home, you take the kidswhere they need to go.
Like when you really get intothat routine, bro, you're not
even you're not interacting withpeople to offer that too.
And if you build out a lifethat way, bro, you are just
focusing on keeping your houseafloat.
And, yeah, if a nigga, if Ihave an opportunity, sure, I'll

(01:09:58):
take it.
But I have to look for theseopportunities because I'm in the
car and in the house.
Yeah, I kind of see what you'resaying, but I just don't think
it take that much energy, lee,just to say something or to
point a nigga in the rightdirection.
Why so many niggas fucked upthen?
I don't know.

(01:10:19):
I mean, I don't know.
You can't change nobody.
All you can do is do your part,do your part, say something.
If they don't do their part, whyshould I do mine?
I'm going to give it to youfrom a family perspective.
Okay, I got folks in my family.

(01:10:39):
That ain't right.
But every time I see them,every time I get a chance to
talk to them, I'm going to pointthem in the right direction.
All right, so that shit don'ttake no energy from me.
I'm going to do that every timeI see it, every time I see it,
and remind them what they gotbehind them.

(01:11:01):
What does that take?
What they got behind them,bumper, I know what you're
saying.
They got a crew behind them.
I get what you're saying.
They ain't going to do that.
They got support system behindthem.
That's it.
That's all I'm saying, and wecan deliver that to the common
man, but even with family, whydo they deserve that?

(01:11:24):
What is it about what you look,what you're talking about
deserve.
That's what you're supposed todo.
If I'm supposed to, theydeserve to.
Who was that supposed to helpthem?
Because I don't know.
Shaggy back, listen, shaggy waschilling too long.
He back now.
You know and don't plan on it,don't want to why?

(01:11:46):
I mean what your daddy said tobarbershop.
I hate oh the yeah, but hedon't know nobody.
I hate owing the motherfucker,yeah, but he don't owe nobody.
That's what he said.
Let's check this out, though.
I'm not helping Nobody Move fora second.
He ain't got it.
Boy Straight up.

(01:12:06):
Why, rue?
Because I don't want to giveyou no money.
That's the nice way.
Then he's going to say damn,bro, look at your nose.
What if he fucked up?
What if he hurt him?
No, listen, if a randommotherfucker called me that I
don't talk to on a day-to-daybasis, I'm not doing shit for

(01:12:28):
him.
If one of y'all call me hey, Ineed this, I got you that
motherfucker I seen the otherday at Eagles, he seen me in my
car and all of a sudden, let mecall this this Fuck you why he
got that hawk out there why hegot that hawk out there.
Sean, if you can't find it,then all right, I got you.
You know what I mean.

(01:12:50):
But, like me and V were having aconversation before y'all got
here and talking about helpingfamily out.
And yeah, it's cool to helpfamily and stuff out when you
can, but at what point is itthat, like they don't consider
you, what you're going through?
They coming to you for this andthat, and a lot of times it's
the people who aren't in yourday to day.

(01:13:11):
They only just circle back whenthey need something and to what
Dean talk about with the familypiece and helping them out.
You, motherfucker, you don'thelp me with shit.
All you do is take away from me.
In the grand scheme of things,why should I continue to help
you?
I'm not helping nobody.
That ain't if I can see.
Look, if you ask me for somemoney, what you gotta hear my

(01:13:37):
mouth yeah, you gotta hear itfirst.
If you ask me for some money,what you got to hear my mouth
yeah, you got to hear it first.
You got to hear what I got tosay Because I work hard for this
money, I work hard, I work hard, I work hard and I'm not
loaning nobody nothing.
I know they ain't putting in thework that I'm putting in.
Man, look, I'm with you y'all.

(01:13:58):
And every time I loan somebodysome money, what if she cute
with a nice little piece of tailon?
I'm not helping nobody.
Dick is all I can give her.
Yeah, I gotta complain before Igive Every time.
God damn, you know what I mean.
First thing I'm gonna say is now, I work hard for my money.

(01:14:20):
You got to give me a look.
Don't even give me that.
No, craig, I wouldn't feelcomfortable giving you no money
without a job.
But now that's the eye of them.
I work hard for this.
Hey, is there a path to megetting this money back?
If the answer is no, probablynot.

(01:14:40):
I don't want to know thatanswer, because that would make
it so much easier.
If I give something, that meansI don't want it back.
That's my thing Like.
If somebody be like bro, let meget $10 an hour, I'd be like
all right, bro, whatever, butI'm not expecting that back.
I only owe money to my friendswho I know can afford to pay me
back, even though I don't expectthe money back, because when I

(01:15:02):
lend money I don't expect itback.
But I can't just give somebody$500, $600, knowing that I ain't
going to see a penny of thatgetting back.
Can I keep real?
I'm one of those guys that Iloan and if I know they not
going to pay me back, I won'task for it back.
But then they can't ask for mefor nothing back, like it 'll

(01:15:24):
never be a double time.
You can owe me If I give it toyou and you don't offer it back,
or if you tell me, like I'mgoing to give it back to you, I
got you and you don't get thatback, okay cool, okay cool, I
ain't tripping, all right, it'sdead.
But if you tell me I ain'tgonna pay you back, or you tell

(01:15:44):
me you're gonna pay me back now,I ain't gonna pay you back.
But then that's when you knowyou can't ask for nothing else,
like any special family.
Uh, you know, hey, I got you.
But listen, man, we can neverdo this again.
It's the last time.
It's a wipe everything clean,completely, completely done with

(01:16:05):
everything.
What you're gonna do with this?
200 dollars?
I need my business.
No, I need to know it is, and Iam going to ask the bank for
money.
I want to know what you'redoing, right, I feel like you
give it to it, like you give itto somebody.
Let me know with my $200.
Maybe I can get something outof it.
Maybe I can throw in another$200.

(01:16:27):
You finna go do something.
Maybe I want to get in with you.
Maybe I do the same shit you do.
I definitely agree with that,though for sure you need $200
and you might need another two.
I'm sorry, y'all may hate me,but I ain't got nothing for you.

(01:16:48):
I'm sorry, even friends, man,if we fucked up.
We gotta be, you gotta befucking.
You gotta say they finna cut mylights out.
Alright, cool, you gotta befucking.
You gotta say Ru they finna cutmy lights out, ru I All right,
cool.
Well, take me up here.
I'm gonna pay the bill in frontof you, but you know what I
mean.
Hey, you can't just wire it tome real quick.

(01:17:10):
No, you can't just sit thereand read Ru, goddamn.
You still know I'm in a bind.
That's a bind.
Man's to call me to come getyou.
Just sit down for bread, so Iain't got to put no gas to come
get you.
I'll even drive you up there.
Come on, I get it.
I don't mind, I'm helping youout.
Are you going to complain aboutme helping you?
You ask me Fuck it in, it's inthe dark, it's in the dark man.

(01:17:37):
I'm trying to help you so thatway I can get a receipt, so I
can know I get it.
Oh, no, extras.
Yeah, just give me that back.
I want it.
On the dollar too.
Yeah, I feel it, damn, I feelit.
Well, let me jump something,because I want to ask a crazy

(01:17:58):
how about a robot to saysomething?
No, no, we really can't saythat.
I ain't gonna say that.
You ain't gonna be too mean.
Then they, you know, I, no, wegood, exciting, talk to him.
No, we do.
I said what I'm gonna say.
I'm gonna go pay the bill foryou in front of you.
Yeah, I'll get.
Well, shaggy, let me ask you aquestion Do you need a little

(01:18:19):
deferred payment?
No, yeah, man, we need this.
I need it by this time.
Look here, when this day come,I'm not going to ask you for it,
because this ain't how I'mgoing to do.
You done messed the bank up.
I get it.
Shaggy, let me ask you this andthis is just a real question,
just because I feel like it'sout here for the world.

(01:18:41):
Do you feel like in arelationship, your girl should
have rules, or should it just belike she should just be able to
do what she want to do?
You know?
No, I'm talking to the folks,shaq, you know for me, bro, I'm
talking to Shaq, if you can justshut the fuck up around me and
just kick it Ain't.
If you can just shut the fuckup around me and just kick it,
ain't too much I'm trippingabout, yes, so you really just
all just kicking the bobo?

(01:19:02):
Yeah, come on, man, we justchilling man, I get it.
Shaw, what about you?
Talk to me, I don't care aslong as the bills paid, as long
as you buy me something to eatfrom time to time.
You know, acknowledge that Iput in effort.
We just in there.
For If she want to go out threetimes or three, nah, let me say,
if she want to go out two timesa week, don't bother me, ain't

(01:19:25):
no issue when we going.
Nah, we ain't going nowhere.
I mean, we can go somewhere,but if I want to go out with my
homegirl, don't bother me.
Oh, that type of you got rules,yeah, or is it just like
everything's for game?
Look here, man.
No, nigga, take you, they canhave you.
It's straight up.

(01:19:46):
When you go over there, juststay over there, ain't no
doubling back?
No, you shouldn't be outside infront of the door.
You should get back home,shaggy.
But let me ask you, lee, stayover there why?
I don't mind it's shaggy, butlet me ask you, lee, why would I
want to be with somebody thatdon't want to be with me?
They cool.
I want to ask do your girl?
She got rules, rules?

(01:20:06):
No, okay, expectations, someexpectations Such as Don't
embarrass me, but what if shewon't embarrass you?
What if she won't get drunk andhave a good time?
I don't embarrass me, but whatif she won't embarrass you?
What if she won't get drunk andhave a good time?
I mean I don't think you meanthat.
I ain't saying she out there,fucking.
I'm saying if she out there, ifshe want to get out there, and

(01:20:27):
she twerking and she having agood time, she get up on the bar
and she shaking ass, is thatembarrassing or is that?
Don't embarrass me, that's notembarrassing.
She won't have a good time.
She know what that mean me.
That is that's not embarrassingyou.
She won't have a good time.
She knows that name so she knowwhat I mean.
Don't embarrass me, that's all.
But no, I really ain't got norules, man.

(01:20:47):
My whole thing is just man, hey,do you do what you want to do?
And allow me to respond to thatokay, so like, if you want to
go out with your home girls allthe time, cool, I don't want to
hear when I go out, okay, youjust give the same energy back.
Yeah, that's all.
I don't want to hear shit whenI go out, okay, you just give
the same energy back.
Yeah, that's all.
Respect, don't ask for nothing.
You can't receive Respect.
Nasty and be sneaky.
If you're doing anything else,you telling her to be sneaky,

(01:21:09):
yeah, I ain't going to look forit.
Don't get caught?
Yeah, I ain't going to look forit.
So, if I find it, it's fuckingobvious.
Just like I said, man, justlike I said, don't take a lot,
just be cool, yeah.

(01:21:29):
Well then let me add now, youknow no expectations, uh, from
both of us.
So we already know, because welocked in from the, from the,
from the jump.
So hold on, can y'all run thestreets like you do?
Yes, you can.
She don't, but she can.

(01:21:50):
Are you okay with it?
She don't, but she can.
I mean, it's not herpersonality too.
You know what I mean.
If that would attract you toher, it's part of the attraction
.
Yeah, it helps that you ain'texactly like me and love these

(01:22:11):
streets, so it don't help thatyou got that bumper back there.
Oh, it helps that she got thatbumper back there.
Yeah, that big old rump shaking.
You know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, bumper back there.
Oh, it helps that she got thatbumper back there.
Yeah, that big old rump shakingstation.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, you know what I'm talkingabout.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Ithought this girl on the belt
line saturday, hey, and I wasjust like looking at her, right,

(01:22:32):
like she was attractive younglady, but she was just like
super skinny.
And like young lady, but she wasjust like super skinny and like
just straight up and down.
I'm just like yo, that's aterrible body.
Why is it Coil array skinny orno?
Like coil array skinny when wefirst got introduced to coil
array, oh, okay, well, I canfind something beautiful in

(01:22:53):
every woman.
I've learned that over time.
That's just stupid.
I've learned that over time.
That's just stupid.
I can't know.
I can find something that Ilike.
Is it beautiful enough to getyou erect?
No, I ain't saying all that,I'm just saying there's
something you know, man?

(01:23:13):
Wow, I was trying to see whereyou was going with that.
No, I wasn't going there.
I'm just saying that I can findsome beautiful in everyone.
Damn, we ain't even hitting notime.
That's what I'm saying.
Oh, 124.

(01:23:34):
It's a close game but theyain't scoring no points.
We gonna see if we get hot, butit's hard to get hot against
Houston With that defense.
What y'all think about theLakers beating the Dawgs Without
an OKC?
Do y'all think that's real Ifthey beat them to Mars?

(01:23:56):
For what I've been saying, howdo you guard that lake?
Is denver?
Yeah, how do you guard reeves,lebron and luke?
Maybe the clip will sneak up inthere and you know I'm saying
get high to beat somebody.
But yeah, and then, yeah, yeah,they, they're the sleeper for
sure.
Like whoever win that, whoeverwin that, they've been kicking

(01:24:17):
our ass.
But damn, we got a new weapon.
This series 30 for 30.
You sure what I'm saying?
So y'all don't believe in MVPshit.
Good, no, it's cool.
Y'all remember what year wasthat when the Hawks were just
kicking everybody's ass in theregular season?

(01:24:37):
2000 and 16.
It was 16 or 17.
16.
Goddamn, no, jeff Teague wentall out.
Man, what LeBron MC was whenthey played them About six,
seven, six or seven.
They just beat the.
Hey, we figured y'all out.
Yeah, bitch I'm, we figuredy'all out that.

(01:24:57):
That was it.
What was it to figure out?
Well, no, because they had beenbeating the Cavs all regular
season.
Who cares, I got you.
But then Bron told T he's likeyeah, we done figured y'all out.
And all they did was ran pickand roll at Jeff T.
It wasn't no pick and roll,they was just kicking their
motherfucking ass.

(01:25:18):
Jr switched out this.
You know what I mean Jumpingthis high, shooting them,
motherfuckers, fading away,lebron, just killing people.
Oh yeah, make sure you lockthat door behind you.
Oh, my friend house, my friendhouse, my friend house, friend

(01:25:39):
house.
Let me see I can answer a crazyquestion because, shit, I feel
like this is open, appropriatefor all of us.
Is porn getting out of fuckinghand?
If you don't realize, in thepast, like six months, it took
porn, took a big hit.
I ain't gonna say it took likea public hit, because everybody

(01:26:00):
still do their thing, but I'msaying just overall.
Now are we talking about pornmore in the last three, four
months than we had probably inthe last five, ten years.
In the past three, four monthsMaybe I've been up under a rock.
What's been going on with?
No, it's not so, not theconversation around this phone.

(01:26:22):
No, it's been a bunch ofconversations around.
I mean, what are you saying?
He can tell you his problem,but I'm just a bunch of me.
Oh, go ahead, you can talkabout it.
Oh, that one girl, she like hadsex like a thousand dudes in one
night, like in one day.
They've been doing this for a along time, hasn't it?
It's called a kazuma, but likethey broke the record.

(01:26:43):
And then she was with Lil Mabu.
Did you hear what you said?
What she broke, what the record?
So that means somebody else didit.
But then apparently, cansomebody bring that tequila in
here, please, thank you.
But then apparently she wasallegedly giving little Mabel

(01:27:05):
fellatio at the Heat game.
Y'all see that At the game.
That's what it looked like.
What do you mean?
What are you talking about?
No way to do anything to beseen.
You know what I'm saying.
Try to get a couple dollars ofit.
Her name Bonnie Blue, isn't it?
I don't know her name, not myband.

(01:27:26):
Yeah, not mine either.
She probably went on Instagramthe other day.
Bro, you got it.
That's some spaghetti.
Oh, you couldn't have it.
I don't want that.
But now I was just asking ifporn getting out of hand because

(01:27:46):
like some of these topics, Imean like these titles, be crazy
, man, when has it not been outof hand, though?
That's what I was gonna say.
Yeah, like it's been crazy fora long time really first got me
porn.
Really first got.
Remember when my computer usedto get all that pop-ups Speak
black you, box 69.
It used to be 99 tabs on mycomputer.

(01:28:06):
Remember that one night you putthat virus on it.
I put a virus on it.
Yeah, you did what you talkingabout.
I mean you watching a bunch ofnaysayers.
Shut up what you talking about.
You watching a bunch of nicks.
Only time my computer fucked upwas when we downloaded LimeWire
.
Nah, nah, nah.

(01:28:27):
I put a virus on mine and I hadto tell my mama the truth.
Shout out to Mike B.
He got it fixed for us.
Yeah, my man.
Yeah, um, so you know, fix forit.
Yeah, my man, god almighty.
Yeah, so you know, damn.
It was something that I wantedto talk about.
Like, as we was talking.
It was like a good spin-offtopic and time Slopped on my

(01:28:49):
goddamn couch and it distractedme.
Oh man, don't get crazy, Iain't plopping on shit nigga.
Oh man, I didn't ask you for myTennessee shot glass.
Damn, I ain't plopping on shit.
Oh man, I didn't ask you for myTennessee shot glass.
I'm sorry, man Rue eating icecream out the bottom man at
somebody else's house.
That's all you need to knowabout country.
Rue, you just want everybodyfrom New York to see you.

(01:29:12):
New York City ain't never seena nigga like you.
Why you been drinking out thebig m?
Uh, okay, that's a bad day.

(01:29:37):
I ain't got, I ain't.
I got one event in july hey,yeah, that's a bet.
Then I got one event in Julyhey, yeah, that's something I
actually want to talk about.
Events, events.
Yeah, I actually do want totalk about events.
Right, we got to start makingsome money off this thing you
know what I mean and reallyingratiate ourselves in the
community.
I think we should throw a partysoon, rue.

(01:30:00):
How long you here?
Rue, how long you here?
Come, get on mic, shaggy, justget on camera eating that ice
cream.
Yeah, it's gluttony.
It's getting to you.
I ain't saying that.
I feel like, if we're going todo that, I feel like we need to

(01:30:20):
push that ASAP, not even on noparty vibe, at least just more
so like a live pod, catching aconnection with the town and
seeing what we can do if peopleare mixed with it.
I tell you this about what I'velearned this week about the pod
A lot of people watch it Likeit ain't the eyes that

(01:30:44):
necessarily we think about.
Somebody check you?
Nah, they didn't check me, butthey was opening up their phone
and first thing you heard was mejust say fuck them.
And you're talking aboutsomebody that's almost 70 years
old listening to our podcast.
So you know what I mean.
It's definitely an audience forus.

(01:31:05):
You know, um, you know they'llcome to the live event.
They may, they may, I don'tknow, I don't know, but we, we
just need to plan it and y'allneed to wear zoot suits.
Yeah, I'm about that.
My grandma told me I was fine,yeah, yeah.
Nah, jeremiah ellis said wewere a hell of a podcast.

(01:31:27):
A couple of them, okay, oh lord, you know who you want to watch
.
That's what I'm saying you outof bounds.
Sometime, I told you I'm 5, 11,I might reach okay, all right,
oh, some other, just nonsense,while we're just sitting here
rambling and bullshit and, uh,what else, like what else can we

(01:31:50):
do to, I guess, make ourselvesmore available to the community
and eventually, like cross overinto some other places where
we're less familiar, but still,it'd be like local type shit.
Get outside.
Hey, I was at the local fridaynight.
No, not grown up, not grown upoutside.
We got to get outside for real,like we got to get to the kid

(01:32:11):
events, we got to get to the auterms, we got to get to the
baseball they got new like weactually got to get outside for
that so people can really seeour faces, and we got to just
market ourselves as who we'resupposed to be.
Yeah, we definitely need that.
I thought we had a logo forreal.

(01:32:34):
I would say that we got a coupleevents coming up in the next
few months that we can be a partof and kind of show face.
And even if we want to likelive podcast there, like
Juneteenth, we can live podthere.
That would be tight.
Though I might be out of town,you can skip a day for

(01:32:54):
Juneteenth.
The people need you.
Where you going?
Nah, barbecue and Brutusweekend, oh yeah, for day for
juneteenth, the people need you.
Where you going now?
Barbecue weekend oh yeah,barbecue brew this upcoming
weekend, yeah, we can go wild,we can go do a live show there,
uh oh, but we should try to wrap, we'll be lit.
They got some brisket up there,lord.

(01:33:15):
No, that should be crazy.
My new favorite meatballs.
I want to say't got.
I called it.
Y'all chill, bro, y'all alwaysgo.
Hey, I called it.
I called my new favoritemeatball.
I will say, bro, like brisket.
Oh, didn't nobody ever tell meabout that.
No, I been told you about it.
No, you told me about it, butyou told me about it this year.
No, I told that was Kansas Citytime.

(01:33:35):
That was four years ago.
That's why all them niggas inTexas voice sound like that time
.
That's all that brisket they do.
Yeah, he swelled up real bad.
I had me a barbecue biscuitsandwich the other day.
I don't bite it.
I might get me some tomorrowfor lunch.

(01:33:56):
It's a topic.
I want to ask what is it shit?
I might give me some foodtomorrow for lunch.
It's a topic.
Well, your guy's gonna flare upand I wanna ask what's up by
the shop.
What is it?
Let another cut your grass.
Wow, right here, hey, shecalled me.
I'm like what's going on?
I mean I don't know how to feelright now.
Tommy mays out there cutting mygrass.

(01:34:16):
How to feel right now, tommymays out there cutting my grass.
I was like I guess that's theman thing you ain't gonna touch
nobody.
Who's great?
He said.
I don't know what to go.
Say to him you're good to wear.
He might not cut it the way youlike it.
That's my grass saturday.

(01:34:39):
And I just didn't know how tofeel.
Y'all know, man, I feel myman's man.
Shit, you're a man's man to acertain extent.
Nah, nah, nah, because he cutit and I want to do something
else.
So I feel like cutting it.
But then I'm just looking at thegrass.
I'm like, damn y'all, I ain'tdo shit.
I didn't pay for it either.

(01:34:59):
Oh, oh, it hurt my manhood alittle bit, but as I'm growing
and maturing and becoming abetter human being, I understand
that it's okay to allow peopleto do things for you.
You throw that nigga 25 dollars.
He.
I look I don't have.
No, let me tell you this Idon't have no problem with
somebody cutting my grass.

(01:35:20):
Well, I know you don't know howto cut grass.
No, I know how to cut grass,but why would I be out there?
Who come cut your grass?
D who, I'm just playing.
Come on, man, come on now.
Hey look, they ain't have nograss.
They ain't have no grass.
They ain't have no weed either.
Yes, I don't believe you.

(01:35:42):
Yes, I don't think you've everput on jeans and boots.
I ain't never seen a child wearit.
I don't do like some.
I don't see them do no label.
What did I tell a nigga?
Real quick, though, I don't dolabels, ain't that what I tell
folks all the time?
But I have pet grass and I haveweed.

(01:36:04):
You talking to a nigga named,back in the truck he looked at
me oh, party over, damn, hold on, go and get out.
Keep cleaning service Shut up.
Son, believe in the West.
One day, let's go, get out,keep, let can't clean the
surface.
And this pulled up.

(01:36:25):
We was me and demons.
Get ready to go sway.
He asked hard to get a toe dog,just a little, just a little
moving dolly off the back of histruck.
And that time look at that 65year old man and said oh, I'm
just gonna do no work.
You get your answer not with nocollege shirt on.

(01:36:54):
No college shirt on.
No, I don't understand how comeyou are, but I can cut grass, I
can do all that.
I think it's against doing work.
Nah, it ain't about me beingagainst doing it.

(01:37:19):
I can do it.
Do I want to?
And I can pay, because y'alldon't live the life I live.
I can pay somebody $10.
And they cut that whole yardwhere I live $10?
And you cut that whole yard.
Man, that's 60-odd yard.
I'm going to spend that $10.
Do you not understand how justrelaxing it is to just get down

(01:37:42):
on your lawn?
Yes, yes, get on your lawn.
Boy, I was worried about him.
I was like, hey, you're a nicedomestic bitch sitting there,
you just driving alone, drinking.
I ain't got no zero turn.
I got to push mine, push mine.
What the fuck is that I got topush my move, push mine, push
mine.
What the fuck is that I got topush my move?
Push that move, push mine.
Yeah, okay, todd, that ain'tthat hard.

(01:38:04):
Get you a little exercise.
No, Two, three hours out there.
Get you a good stretch.
Two, three hours.
I'm going to be doing somethingelse.
You learn your patterns and allthat they never work.

(01:38:33):
Doing some insurance.
I don't think that's a route.
Hold on, I hate that.
Y'all need to stop that.
We can do one more.
We didn't talk about Ja.
Oh yeah, we did talk aboutstupid-ass.
Ja, that's stupid.
I mean, that's what I'm saying.
That can be the last one forthe night, because Ja just ain't
that.
Once we end with that, I don'twant to talk about LaWayne.

(01:38:55):
No more Shout-out to La.
I don't want to talk about LilWayne.
No more Shout out.
Wayne, though, getting hisjersey.
What did he do?
He got his jersey.
He's out there with Belichick.
He got a UN jersey.
Oh, he got a Belichick.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makessense.
They didn't think Belichickknow how to relate to the young
niggas.
He deserve it, so they got oldass.
Lil Wayne yeah, bro, just, hegot that young girlfriend.
Hell yeah, 25.

(01:39:22):
Can you blame him?
He made a freestyle.
No, but for real, though, thebrain game.
Hey Rookie, you come talk aboutJohn a little bit.
I feel like you're going todefend me.
We didn't do it.
Where was you at?
Hey Rookie, you come talk aboutJa a little bit, because I feel
like you're going to defend me.
Hold on, we didn't do a wherewas you at?

(01:39:44):
And then we didn't do a wherewas you at?
Hold on, hold on Spade.
We didn't have one pop up today.
We didn't have one pop up today.
You're going to keep makingjokes.
No, we're going to talk aboutJa and we're going to end the
show.
Hold on, hold on.
I'm telling you it's going tohappen.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, holdon.

(01:40:04):
He's ready to go.
I don't know, you ain't Come on.
Come on, I'm just playing.
I'm the bullshit.
No, you wasn't.
You won't keep talking.
No, you wasn't.
We want to keep talking.
We don't want to keep talking.
We want to talk about John.
Go home.
No, but for real, y'all.

(01:40:25):
Anyway, john celebrating yeah,he got two big old fines $75,000
apiece this week.
What y'all think about it Wasthat apiece, they got two apiece
.
They fined him for the firstone.
He got $75,000.
Then he came back right afterand got another segment right
after.
Do you think it's just Ja?
Do you think it's just Ja beingJa, or do you think he's just

(01:40:45):
antagonizing NBA?
At this point, that nigga'sstupid.
He ain't antagonizing the NBA,but it ain't working the way he
think it's gonna work.
I think they need to leave theman alone.
Personally, that's where I'mgoing, y'all.
Shaggy, come get on camera.
Bro, you gonna stand over therein the corner Like you did
something to somebody.
You're taking on the sun.

(01:41:06):
What'd you say, d?
You taking on the sun?
Hey, jesus, shaggy, no, just toclose it out.
No, I think what he's doing isharmless.
But once your boss say hey,don't do this, and then you turn

(01:41:29):
around and do it again, it'slike all right, dog, you're not
just a victim in this.
Yeah, you made some decisionsto where they look at you
differently and, unfortunately,you have a level of influence
and they want to control who youinfluence and how you influence
them.
So if you want to play in thisgame, right, like, yeah, you can

(01:41:53):
stay in the NBA.
But if you want to be a face ofthe league type guy, you got to
do it that shit over with he.
Not going to be a face of theleague type guy, you got to do
it.
That shit over with he.
Not going to be a face of theleague type guy.
I think that's over with thatone, which I mean he still could
have.
He could still stay up and makesome control.
No, that's a lie.
Yes, he is To the young people?
Yes, absolutely not, probablynot.
Young people, don't get into it.

(01:42:15):
He definitely a wide hand face.
That's what I'm saying.
But no, I'm just saying itain't about what them white
people think.
Yeah, he's the face of theleague.
I don't understand.
I get what you're saying.
He's a generational talent.
All the young kids know him.
He's not the face of the league.
He don't get less national TVgames.

(01:42:37):
He's not on any national adsand stuff like that.
But he's got social media.
That's cool, but that don't pay, like the money.
He ain't worried about gettingpaid.
Everybody worried about gettingpaid.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Ja's not worried about gettingpaid.
He ain't worried about gettingpaid.
Ja is happy with what he got.
He just gave away $140,000.

(01:42:57):
That's not nothing to $100million.
He already lost it, but he lostthe $50 million because he
didn't get the rookie supermatch.
You know what I'm saying.
By him continuing to antagonizethe league, it's letting you
know, bro, he don't care aboutthe money.

(01:43:17):
He good with what he's makingand what he thinks he's going to
continue to make, which, ifthat's who he wants to be, I
support it.
Yeah, yeah, I totally supportit.
But when you start talking aboutniggas who are into that face
of the league and bigger picture, all that shit, the whole thing
that you know.
Last remarks yeah, nice, that'sthe only what I still feel like

(01:43:39):
he's just job being giant.
I feel like they need to leavehim the fuck alone, cuz again he
ain't after, really he ain'tbringing no good.
But you know, you got that bignigga up in Detroit.
I dance to it.
Man, yo, no cap thismotherfucking soft nigga.

(01:44:03):
It's the same thing with theNFL.
Get rid of the wiping the nose,bro.
It's just bullshit.
It's people who ain't reallyinto what's going on.
It's a bunch of white peoplelooking to see what black people
doing and saying, ah, I don'tlike that.
I feel like that wiping thenose stuff came from Thug.
I mean not Thug, but they onlywant that to stop because of the
Thug stuff, the Rico, the Rico,the YSL stuff.

(01:44:24):
I feel like that's the onlyreason that shit got thrown out.
You can't use this.
I don't think he's going to winthis Rue and I know they up
nine.
We'll bet.
I don't think they.
I'm looking at my boy, willieClayton.
It's been a great week.
Hold on.
Everybody need a last word.

(01:44:45):
I was alright.
Well, get them alright, we'llcatch y'all next week.
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