Season 2 - Ep 21 - In the Paré Way - No Place to Hide and Into The Sun - The After Movie Diner Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
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(00:35):
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and wretched individual who negatively reviews free entertainment they do
not need to be consuming. So, without further dribbling, please

(00:56):
put down your lenon Meranus for the one the only
charm Cross.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well, Hi there, rap fans. So this episode of the
Aftermovie Dina was recorded a while ago, and I thought
I had posted it. I really thought this had already
gone out. I could have sworn i'd listened to it,
so I'm a little confused as to how it didn't
go out. But I was recording an all new episode

(01:25):
of the parree Way for the Cinema Beef podcast, because,
as you know, we do a micro parree film for
the Aftermovie Diner, and then we go over to the
Cinema Beef podcast, which is part of the Butcher's Shop
legion of podcasts. We go over there and do a
parae episode as well, me and my brother Gary Hills.
So this was an episode that I could have sworn

(01:47):
went out, and instead Gary reminded me when we were
going to record the new one for the Cinema Beef show,
he said, are you ever going to put out into
the sun? I was like, I thought I already did,
so anyway, that explains this show. It also explains why
at the beginning of the show, I'm talking about having

(02:08):
not yet started the PM Entertainment podcast, even though everyone
out there knows that we are now six episodes deep
into the PM Entertainment podcast. So this was recorded at
least seven weeks ago, so I apologize for that. Anyway,
let's get on with the show. So, yeah, I've been
on a PM Entertainment kick and lately, and I'm glad

(02:30):
you brought it up. So because exciting news. Exciting news,
because I wasn't going to announce this so soon, but
I created the Facebook and Instagram profile just to make
sure that I definitely had the correct username and everything

(02:51):
that I wanted, and Don the Dragon Wilson found it
and re shared it, so the cat is now out
of the bag because Don Wilson shared this. I will
be doing in addition to the parade Way episodes of
the Aftermovie Diner podcast, which are not going anywhere whatsoever,
I will be doing the first and currently the only

(03:16):
PM entertainment focused podcast.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Here you go.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
That is right, sir, I am launching the PM Entertainment
podcast at new episodes will be coming out in March.
It is going to be an absolute phenomenal show. Thanks
to Don the Dragon Wilson sharing the Facebook profile, we
already have many, many, many followers, and lots of people
have reached out and messaging me and stuff like that,

(03:43):
so it it feels momentous. It feels like we've got
some wind beneath our wings houser, if you like to
use that analogy. So it's all going very well, and
we're going to have new episodes with Matt Peier with
Doctor Action and with the two guys Tie and Brett
from Come Up and Reviews. Those are going to be

(04:04):
the first three episodes, and then we're going to get
Ohen Freel from The Action Elite on the show and
maybe even some PM Entertainment insiders. Here's the format. It's
one PM Entertainment movie. We do the PM Entertainment stats
right up up the front, so you do or their
explosions and their car chases, kind of like a Joe

(04:25):
Bob Briggs driving totals kind of thing. Then you review
the movie, say your piece and sign off right and suddenly, sir,
as far as I'm concerned anyway, in terms of numbers
and things in my life, it's blowing up, as the
kids say in the parlance of that time.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Yes, that's very that's very cool.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
So well, we'll have to have you on to cover
a PM entertainment movie down the line, sir. But yes,
I'm very excited. It's awesome. But obviously we're not here today,
ladies and germs, to discuss the glory of pmnertainment. Uh.
You will find that on other shows, including the PM
Entertainment Podcast starting in March twenty twenty five with me

(05:07):
John Cross as your host. But we are here today, sir,
because Gary and I that's right. Yet again, we are
in the parade way. We're in the parayway every night
and every day. I don't say.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
When way.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
Mary Janet are in the parayway.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Okay, it's a game that we have, say we face
is having say, I don't.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Know how many.

Speaker 5 (05:59):
Gary there is a paraday.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Oh, I'm sorry that we started the show.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah, I am here. I'm you're like.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Sorry if we started the show. Yes, sorry, yeah, yes,
I should have given you an edit point. Yes, sorry,
I just thought we'd I'll include some of that PAYM
entertainment stuff. So I just thought, let's ease in from
PAYM entertainment into the sun. Unless you have stuff you
want to chat about saying, which could please go right ahead.
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
I'm going to be doing this for so long, and
you know I should know these things. Hey, this is
your quan asshole. Yeah, I hear you talk about, uh
the very clean cut, uh, Michael Parrey, because I am
in the pary way. Be about three months and I'm
sorting start to get a little bumble, a little bit
that probably just meets inside my my gullet. Here it's

(06:56):
a it's a beats bump, yes indeed, yes, but yeah,
it's very glad to be here again. On on on
the diner and the diner inside of all of you
in the Paraye Way, and yeah, just in general, it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Dude, it is awesome because I think we've I've personally
not come across a bad paraye yet. It has just
been clean sailing down the Pararee Highway. So I'm very
happy about that. I cannot wait to get stuck into
this film. But also, sir, also there was a VHS pick,

(07:32):
and I'd like you to tell the listening several what
that was.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
We were doing the Chris Christopherson, Well, I'll say a
hairless Chris Christopperson.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yes, sons beard, Yes, sounds.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Beard peaturing him, Drew Barrymore, Martin Landau. Our BHS pick
is no place to hide, no place to hide in
a cult film of sorts.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
We'll get into that. I'm sure you.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Know it's it's a cannon film. No less, it is
a cannon film, yes indeed, yes, indeed, and not spoken
favorably about by the leading actor, Chris Kristofferson. I think
even Martin Landau has a story where he was like,
someone tried to ask me about that movie, and I said,

(08:21):
why the fuck are you trying to ask me about
that mood?

Speaker 3 (08:25):
You have standards, you know, because that guy can start
a film just by bugging at the camera, right, you know,
you know it has to be good.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Come on now, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Well.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Landou was in my favorite Italian dirty Harry Rippop is
The Strangers in the Dark Room. It also goes by
Blazing Magne. Martin Landou plays a dodgy college dean.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
I have never seen this worma. I may look for
it now, dude.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
I don't know if you remember, but there was like
a weird insurance commercial ad that had like a dog
and car in like adou, sorry, dog and a cat
in a ridiculous car chase. Do you remember that one?

Speaker 3 (09:10):
No? I don't, actually okay, because.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
That car chase they stole wholesale from Blazing Magnum. Blazing Magnum,
hands down has the best, like it basically went, oh
we see you, bullet, and we're gonna raise you this
car chase, like Blazing Magnum has like a PM entertainment
car chase, but in the seventies in Italy and with
wah wah guitar. It's fucking incredible.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Now, when you say stole, does that mean like in
the trauma sense or these use the same car crash
in like ninety seven movies.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
The Oh No No, the commercial, the insurance company commercial,
I think it was Geico basically just took that entire
car chase and then superimposed a dog and a cat
inside the car. So because the car chase is so
ridiculous that no one like, and it was so seventies that,

(10:04):
like when it was presented as a commercial, people were
people were understandably like, what the hell did they get
this from? And I knew and nobody else.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Did it like superimposed a dog and a cat out
of the scene. You're like like, yeah, like like green
screen they went or something.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, So whenever it cut inside the car, instead of
it being like the dude driving it was it was
like Tuonsis and if you're an SNL fan, it was
like a Tunsis and then like a dog and they
just kind of like superimposed a dog and a cat
at the steering wheel, but then showed the rest of

(10:42):
the the car chase, and the car chase in Blazing
Magnum has to be seen to be believed, because obviously
Bullet sort of threw down the gauntlet and then French connection.
Of course, Bullet and French Connection threw down the American
car chase Gauntlet and the Italians where we see you
French connection and bullet and we're going to raise you
doing mad doughnuts near a pier in Italy. Uh and

(11:06):
and bye bye bye. Gosh do they manage to top?
But I think the car chase in Blazing Magnum goes
on like thirty five minutes or something.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Uh tuessas you know, the guy who can drive a
car segment in SNL. I love these every so much
still because the acting is so exquisite that they just
they just go with this hateus puppy just driving this car. Yes,
And I just I love it for that reason, you know.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
And I was right. It was Martin Landau who, despite
co starming in the film, often expressed embarrassment about having
worked on it. He once met a fan at the
la Ax Hilton who brought up the movie, and Landau
smiled and shook his head before responding, of all the
pictures I've made, why would you ask me about that one?

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Which means that Landau somewhere in his head puts Blazing
Magnum above no place to hide, which gives me no
end of pleasure. Not only that, but the one that
he did with Sir Donald of the Pleasants and the
Jack Palance Alone in the Dark, which his crowning achievement.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Surely Donny P with a giant spacialo going to work
in that opening scene.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Oh yes, he's got the old pizza flipper right or
the big like giant chef's bachelor, the big metal one.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah, if you what would it's like five times in size.
He's all said, yeah, he'll flip six burgers with that thing.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Listen, you better know that pleasants can flip six burgers
at once. You know that to be a fact. Yeah,
That's that's just how Donny P is built. Donny Donny
P is ready for action. But I just think that
you know, Palance, Polant's Pleasants, Landau and the man who
would become Murdoch in the A Team, that's a pretty

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incredible cast list right there. And if you're not turning
this off going to watch Alone in the Dark right now,
then I'm surprised at you because I might finish this
podcast later and go watch Alone in the Dark myself.
Because I'm saying it again, Gary for the cheap seats, Pleasant,
the Lance Landau and the Man and Dwight Schultz, the

(13:18):
Man who would be Murdock, and.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
The Late I forget the man's name, Irland bon Leith.
I think his name is. He was only on like
five things, right, but they're all memorable, The Wanderers, Stir Crazy,
Dynamo and The Running Man. Ah, he's in like four
or five things and then he passed away and it
makes me very sad, but he was quite the presence
and whatever he was in.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, I've always said that like those kind of careers
where you happen to be in uh, you know, just
five or six well regarded will live forever movies, even
if you're like the George buck Flower and you're only
in like a sine or two as some sort of
hobo or something. I would love that career.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
I would.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
I would just be love to be able to be
like sure, I was in The Running Man and I
was in The Loan in the Dark with Pleasants, Polan
Shultz and Landau.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
I can see George Bufflower working for a six pack
of High Life of Craft Services right exactly. He's like,
I get to eat this weekend. Check it out, guys.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Look at the spread.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
These fuckers have got pretzels. Are you kidding me? Right now?
He's just running around shoving pretzels into his beard. People like,
you know, they just give those away. You don't have
to like hide them or anything.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
He's got a knapsack already with wine with a plastic egg.
He's jammers spaghetti and chicken wings together, and.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Oh, George, George bunk Flower has got like one lud
ziplock and he's just putting pasta fucking chicken wings and
fucking Soup's just putting all in there, all in one
giant loud ziplock and his knapsat.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
It's like, although the guy has that mother or that grandmother,
they will do that at a restaurant. Yeah, it's just
like damn rolls at her purse, you know, because she
has she has ziploc bags in that purse.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Ready, just take shit, you know home with her. You know.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, well that's listen. In trying times, you know, sometimes
you have to buck flowers that shit, and that's listen.
I've all respect for that. I have no problem with
people buck flowering are good or you can eat buffet,
you know what I mean. I was just at Costco
today and I got one of their dollar fifty hot dogs.

(15:39):
Oh yeah, that comes with a twenty ounce cup that
you can constantly refill. Well, I mean, right there, that's
that's one fifty. Where else on the planet can you
buy anything for under five dollars these days? Even gum
is like five dollars these days, like fucking a dollar
fifty and you get free refills. Come on now, Costco

(16:01):
doing the lord's work out.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Here coskat to give a slice of pizza too, and.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
A yeah, just get it in you.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
I did that today. I had to slice the cheese
because it looked like I don't know if you have
this scar. I don't know if you feel this way
about it.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Right.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
There are the more elegant pizzas, you know what I mean.
There were the more like fanciful pizzas. You know, some
people like something with a mozzarella on it, you know
what I mean, maybe a little basil leaf or some
fucking fruit fou shit on top of it. Right, But
there's sometimes where you want that. Like cheap pizza. It's
got like the tomato sauce that's just slightly two tomato,

(16:39):
you know what I mean. It's a little heightened in everything.
A lot of salt, a lot of sugar, and that
tomato sauce. Right then, they've just fucking layered any cheese
that they could scrape up from a grill, you know
what I mean, They've just gone, fuck it. We've got
some Cheddar, We've got some we've got some American, we've
got some Swiss. It doesn't matter what. They've just melted
that fucker within an inch of its life right on

(17:02):
top of the thick, rich tomato sauce. And I tell
you what, sometimes that's the pizza you want. Am I am?
I right them are right?

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Gary? Well, it's like when you go home, Yeah, you
get you feel like you revert back to your hood
instincts that it just happens all too off with me
and not off enough if you ask me and you say, hey,
I don't need to hamburg your bunt. I got white
bread because that's how Mama used to make it. And
you know, you get that that pizza from all these

(17:29):
and you fucking judge it up.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
That's what you do. Yeah, next ship to it, you know, dude.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
That's what I used to do when I was when
I was living on my own in the Bronx, back
back when you sent me my delightful ukulele back when
I was living in the Bronx and having the rough
time of it, not not having the greatest time of it. Uh,
That's what I used to do. I used to get
the the pot noodles, the noodles in the cotton, right,
and I would get like a bunch of hot dogs,

(17:56):
and I would have like my roommate at the time,
you know, like when you get Chinese takeout, you get
like seven thousand packets of soy sauce. Oh yeah, right.
I would take like a few of the free soy
sauce packets, the fucking noodles, the hot dogs, and maybe
like a mushroom and just fucking work magic with it,
you know what I mean. One night, I didn't have

(18:18):
any of that shit. I just had the noodles, and
my roommate had a little bit of red wine left,
and I just put fucking red wine in.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
The like you're fucking Bobby Players, come.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Fucking a corn on blu chef and I'm just fucking
red wining up my Uh. I think once, dude, I
put red wine in a chef boy id, and I
don't think I'm kidding. I think I was like, I'm
gonna take a boy id with the with the tiny
little pulpet meatballs and the highly sugar spaghetti. Just gonna

(18:50):
splash a little red white and there maybe some irregular
if it's led around, Just fucking shoot it up a
bit hood style, right.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Do YouTube videos of this just to show people? Howd
you know you could do a whole set of videos
on a robin, just a Robin alone.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, the pot noodle chef. I'm sure there's one guy
doing that already.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
If you just put this justice in Robin, you know
you're doing it wrong. But then again, I watched the
guy repair a table with Robin once and yeah, it
didn't sound too healthy like he beat this shit though,
so you know, yeah, no.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
I mean, look, dude, it's it's Ramen noodles and the
Costco hot dog. They're the only thing that are under
five bucks these days.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (19:35):
So you know, go with it, go with the hot
dog and the rama. In fact, go to cost there's
an idea, get your twenty five percent the noodles from
the supermarket. Go to Costco, get your one fifty hot dog.
Listen right there, you've got a party sir, just to
ask for an extra cup of the hot dog water.
That's the water you use for the noodles. Come on, now,

(19:56):
come on now, I think we're thinking. We're thinking right now.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
If you got some borrow, you're in some garlic powder, man,
some garlic salt, right, you can a fine ghetto garlic
bread with that butt right there. So you got some
hot dogs and some pot noodles together right, sliced with perfection,
and you got some ghetto garlic bread right there. You know.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Can you imagine going up to the countrip Costco with
with your hot dog buttons splayed out, covered in buttering
garlic powder, and just going, hey, whip that under the
grill for me, buddy, just toast that fucker up. I'm
having some ghetto garlic bread.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Oh man, dude, who wouldn't won that? Who?

Speaker 2 (20:35):
That's living right there? That is pure living. If you
have never done that, you've never lived. I pause it
to you that you have never truly lived until you've
walked on the Costco pot noodle wildside.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Oh man, that should we talk about? John?

Speaker 4 (20:53):
That's fine though, man.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
It's great. Listen, man, we've all had that.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Look.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Everyone has had that experience. We've all had that cheap
pizza and we've all done the Look, what have I
got some noodles or some chef boyar d? How do
I judge this up? So I don't feel like quite
so much as a garbage person eating this fucking food,
but you judge it up bit and you actually feel
like a king. What you learn is you feel like

(21:19):
a king. And one of my favorite things to do
back when I was at university was a friend of
mine and I would go halves on a on a
roasted chicken, like a spit roasted chicken right, and some
cheap white you know, Hawaiian style rolls from the supermarket,

(21:41):
and we'd go in the center of our town. There
wasn't a park. This will tell you like the kind
of Gothic madness that in England we grew up with.
In the center of this town, it wasn't a park.
It was a graveyard. But it was a graveyard that
because it was right in the center of town, everyone
just used as a park. So we would go with
chicken in one hand, cheap bread rolls in the other,

(22:03):
and we'd go sit in the graveyard, tearing the chicken up,
slapping it between a cheap white roll, just eating it
right there at the grave site. Oh yeah, man, that's
some hobo living right there. That's some that's some junk
yard dog experience.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
That is makes a fine chicken salad with the writ
ingredient instead artistic chicken. And you know, I'm not hating
it all though. Dude.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
If you've got like a day old retissary chicken and
you pull all the chicken off it and slatter that
shit in Costco mayonnaise, you've got a party right there.
That's a party and a half sir a word against it.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
That's a good day right there, bun, dude, any day.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
And this is a thing. This is the thing, man,
And I have to impress this on people, right, find
something every day that brings you joy. Love is a protest, right,
So they the fuckers can't bring you down if you
go out into the world and be like today, I'm
getting some graveyard chicken. Like if you who's going to

(23:00):
stop you getting some graveyard chicken?

Speaker 3 (23:01):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Like, there's no law against graveyard chicken that I've read anywhere.
So like, just if you go get graveyard chicken, you'd
be surprised, how all the fucking troubles of the world
roll away. Go get yourself that dollar fifty hot dog, Doug,
get in some hot dog water pot noodles, and have
a fucking wonderful time. Because if you've never done that,

(23:25):
then that might be the reason why you're not very happy.
You need to go do something like that and then go, oh,
that's right. Even at my worst, at my simplest I
can find joy in something that, my friend is the
best lesson I can give anyone at any time ever. Honestly,
between you and me, this is John now of the present,
not John of the past. It's weird to hear me

(23:48):
sounding so positive and optimistic. Apparently eight weeks ago was
a much or whenever I recorded this was a much
better time. I can't imagine what happened since then, can you?

Speaker 3 (24:03):
But beloved mother, CHERI stand fucking rotisserie chicken in a graveyard.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
It's all you need to come.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
On, You need some hobo, some hobo lunch me.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Somebody's beloved mother knows you might be honty going to
their graveyard, telling.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Me the corpse has won it. Man, the corps is
like everyone's always coming here. And crying. Give me the
whiff of a rotisserie chicken and the slight waft of
a hobo's thigh, and they're happy. Man, that's what they
want in life. And why not? Who are we to
deny the dead?

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Yes? To find a wide reduction cantos spaghettios, Yes, Kirk
the perfection.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
The other thing you can do if if red wine
is slightly beyond your budget is go get the nips.
Go get a couple of nips. We nips from behind
the counter at your local liquor store. You know, like
normally whenever you see nips by the side of the road.
And I don't know if this happens where you are, Gary,
but where we are there is a plague of nips,

(25:08):
which means that a country hedgerows and and sort of
green dells that live next to the windy back roads
of New England where I live are often layered with nips.
The tiny bottles, the very tiny bottles of liquor that
you get. And it's normally what people have told me,

(25:30):
because I was like, what are all these little bottles?
And kid was like, ah, the nips.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
And in fact, our mayor of New Milford I'm not
even kidding weekly posts the number of nips that they've
picked up. I'm not even like, I'm not even kidding.
The mayor of my town has a weekly nip count.
Bear that in mind. So I'm just saying, you go

(25:56):
get yourself. Apparently people get nips and they go park
up before they go home. This is like a post
work pre home thing. And it makes me so sad
Gary that someone would before they go home feel such anxiety,
either from the stress of the day like that makes
me sad that the day is so stressful, or that

(26:18):
the only time they get alone with themselves ever in
their life, or the only time that they're remotely at
peace is necking a quick nip in a hedge row.
And I uh, that to me saddens me. And I
would say, maybe the nip is You're not going to
find any answers at the bottom of a nip, right.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
It's a little reference high a fifth.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
But if you you buy those nips and you know
it's works, you know in the ghetto with the suns,
they you get that cheap. You know, Arizona can drink,
which I happen to love. They pour a little up,
they pour the nips, the Arizona tea.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yes, yes, yeah, Tea and nips is an old it's
an old standard, it's an old classic. It's yeah, we've
all been there. We've all been to the tea and
nips barbecue, the tea and nips Buffy.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
If you put down a post and we take it
in many different ways, it's gonna be very disappointed at
the tea nips parties.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Wait if you say there's a tea and nips Buffey
happening down the street and instead you turn, instead of
going around the corner and seeing a wonderful bevy of
bathing beauties, you see three dirty hobo consuming peach snapp
nips an Arizona tea in a hedgerow, that would be

(27:53):
I mean, imagine the surprise. You were expecting tea and
nips and instead you got tea and nips.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
See, those are the nips.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
You probably don't want that sort of thing, which I
don't like kick shave anybody.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
But yeah, no, no, but that's but that's what I
was going to say, is the snaps that they normally
pick up, sorry that snaps. The nips that they normally
pick up are something like like peach snaps or cranberry
vodka or something. They're never you know, it's never the
whiskey nips or the high end nips. It's always the
you know, what's the cheapest snaps? Okay, get the peach

(28:31):
snaps nips and we'll hastily consume five before we drive
home to our wife who doesn't love us anymore.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
I'll just talk.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
I'll not bother you know.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Well and bothered by the idea of hanging out in
a headerow is some hope?

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Oh yeah, outside that is my kind of.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Party, and Gary, that is my kind of partying and
I love it. I love it all right. Is it
anything going on, sir that you want to talk about,
announce or anything like that before we Oh, and also
please pick either the VHS pick of No Place to
Hide or the Parade Way pick of Into the Sun
as our first movie. So if you have anything to

(29:16):
provoke ahead now and then let us jump into whatever
movie you pick first. I am ready to go on
eat it.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Just the fact that we're gonna start recording regularly again
this Thursday, per cent.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
Of Beef, and I'm looking forward to that.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
And that's basically for the end of the show. But
you know it's been a while, you know, the holiday
ships and people just get busy with you know, snow
and ice hadn't expected places. This is something I'm thankful for.
So there's that.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah, great, And.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Who are you?

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Who are you recording with? And what are some of
the upcoming episodes we can expect?

Speaker 4 (29:46):
This is X and Susanne the Normal Crew.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
The next one up is I forgot it's called but
it's the Stevie Kings The Dark ab directed by Georgia Merrow.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
Today's Today's Day.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
By the way, it is happy Birthday Georgie and the
Man at two together. Oh very nice, very nice, very nice.
To the Dark Half, I think a slightly underrated and
underappreciated part of the Romero Cannon, just saying it's.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Very few filled. A guy gets beat with a prosthetic
leg and his rustic leg, and that happens in a
Dark Half, and you know, I love it for it.
You know, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah, you always find the one you always find, like
the crux of the story. I find Gary, you always
find that one thing that brings joy to you, and
I'm glad about that. Kyle Polling is very much the
same way he is able to find that thing. You know,
he just goes robotic Bigfoot or something and then he's like, oh, okay,

(30:48):
there's a robotic bigfoot. Great, that'll do you know what
I mean, Like, he'll just find something that he's happy about.
You're much the same, so you're just like, oh, he
gets beat with his own prosthetic leg. That's enough for
me to enjoy this film. Off we go.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Well, you know, you're like, we jah, you know, we
see something that's unique to to a fill over. Early
happens very very very very little. You know, you're like, wow,
that's that happened to this movie. Ether you enjoy it
a little more than you did before.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
I mean, and when you when you bask in the
glow of either see Thomas Howe's Pure Danger or Paul
Volk and Joe Lara's Steel Frontier by PM Entertainment, when
you bask in those glow, you will realize you will
find that little moment and you will be like, that
is what John is talking about, and you will you
will love every minute of it.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
As far as Yelly goes, I think we'll end on
a high and we'll start with the VHS pick right,
now with No Place to Hide? Yeah, we'll do that.
I think I love it.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Do you want to give us a synopsis there? Gary,
what happens in No Place to Hide?

Speaker 3 (31:58):
I have no idea in front of me, so I'm
gonna go by recollection of my brain of the plot
and No Place to Hide. Basically, there was a killer
out there who who kills a dancer, a ballet dancer,
then that day and then an an exog dancer. Because
this film starts out amazing, starts with this crazy ritualistic
murder and you know she gets killed.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
It is uh.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
She has a little sister who has a ridiculous name.
Her name is tinsel in this moo played played by
Drew barrymore gosh ridiculous. But it is Chris Kristofferson, our
cop of a cop of the Walk in the film,
who he has to protect her from occultists who were
after her that killed her sister. And that is your
basic plot to No Place to Hide.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yes, And of course Chris Christofferson's character Joe Gavi has to,
like all good cops, be distrusted by his fellow cops
or you know, or despised by his fellow cops and
also has to have a dead wife. These are the
rules of down on the heel, down on the luck

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cops who are true at hot but gruff on the exterior.
These are the rules. So sure enough, Joe Garvey sadly
loses his wife and child in a car accident that
we see in flashback, with suitable screaming to the heavens
no by Chris Christofferson. What what were you thinking of

(33:29):
his performance there?

Speaker 3 (33:30):
It was not not quite down subtle and I don't
look now, but you know that that is that's hard
to pull off, you know. But yeah, yeah, it's it's
it's overly dramatic.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
It's there.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
But yeah, I think I will relate that reacting a
little bit harder. I wish sure to see the acrobat deck,
which is why he is shunned as an officer. No,
but yeah, I would, I would. I would reacted a
little bit harder. Uh yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
But still I think a powerhouse, towering performance by Christovson
in this role.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
And so what's what's hilarious about the movie is that
I knew we were in I was enjoying it, I
was fine, but I knew we were in trouble. Once
Drew Barrymore uttered the line and it's I'm paraphrasingause I
don't remember exactly what it is, but it's like, are
you treating me like a substitute daughter because your daughter
died or something like that? And I'm like, oh God,

(34:30):
did the screenwriter just put exactly what he was doing
into the mouth of an actual character on the film,
Like we all got it, that's like we all understand that.
We we we we were watching the movie, like we
were following the movie and it was almost like the film.
I was like, I don't know that people are getting
this deep rich parallel between Drew Barrymore losing all of

(34:54):
her family and Chris Christoffinson losing all of his family
and oh maybe there's an ending right there. Yeah, we
were all watching it in dozy twas that you didn't
need to write it down and have Drew Barrymore clumsily
be like, wait, are you using me as a daughter? Substitute?
Gary your rebuttal Uh.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah, it's something that happens because course she finds out,
you know, through rubbering through his shit the day he
had a family, So you know, she she's a person
who never had the help barely except for her for
her uh apparently very fast sister or sort of I
don't even know. Uh, so she suspected everything, including about

(35:35):
you know, wardrobe is because this guy, the same guy
who has these protective feelings for her, basically calls her
a horror at every other scene because the way she dresses.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
But you know, well he never uses that exact term,
but he I think he says, you know what, thirteen
year old's dressed like this or something like that in
an incredulous way. But yes, lots of lots of commentary
on on Drew Barrymore's choice of dress, and yeah, it's
what's weird about that? Oh, this movie is so complex

(36:05):
because essentially it's all cliche. Essentially, you're just watching a
thing and you're like, yep, grumpy carp the Dead family
has to take a girl like it's it's exactly what
Statham does. Now, Like if you watch Safe or whatever.
The first half of Safe, Stathum's like, oh, I can't
look after you whatever the fuck blah blah blah blah blah.
And then by the end of Safe, Jason's like, I

(36:25):
will die for you and everything you know you'd stand
for whatever, right, and and like that's that's the thing, right,
old and gruff, miserable fucker has to protect young girl who,
even though she's a whiny, annoying little shit, is gonna
win over the gruff, miserable, lonely piece of shit. And
by the end of it, everything to be happy. We
already know. So that's already happening, right, And there's all

(36:48):
this indication that her sister was actually although she was
this sort of classy ballerina that was actually behind the scenes,
probably you know, wrapped up in some sort of weird
set thing. And then it starts off. The movie starts
off with a completely uncategor categoristic unless I suppose you're

(37:09):
talking about like the Death Wish sequels or something like
murder scene that looks like something out of Dario Argento
or Luccio Ful Cheese or Michelle Suave's worst Giallo.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
It doesn't think hard on her, but you get the idea,
you know, I.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Mean, he goes, he tears like she she steps out
from behind the sort of wavy gauze at the back
of the theater while the rest of her friends are
still performing. He tears her costume in half, starts ugly
massaging her breasts with his creepy leather, black leather gloved

(37:51):
hand and then sort of strangles over and repeatedly stabs
her and slashes her face like it it's I was
so like, oh, okay, it's that kind of cannon film,
because I was thinking it was more like, you know,
mainstream cannon film, and I was like, oh no, it's
a Chuck Brunson Gretty you know, Death with Sequel kind

(38:11):
of cannon film. Okay, I know, I know which one
we're in now, And then cut to like twenty minutes
of Drew Barrymore bothering the piss out of Chris Christophson.
I was like, wait, where's the guy in the black
hat who's feeling up boobies and killing women? Well, can
we have him back?

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Please? Not to mention, you know, most of her dialogue
is told the inner botologue.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
She writes in her diary.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Yeah, she writes in her diary. Yes, what about O. J.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Simpson's cameo as Chris Kerstofphson, who at the height of
the case needs to leave her with someone to be protected,
leaves her with the juice in.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
A wheelchair's athlete Dave you know the most inspired Alie Wheeler,
who's a cop who has some spinal injury, who's uh
in a wheelchair now, but is an awesome protector for
this young child who has cultist or somebody after her.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
You know, no match though for the two guys who
have built like bridgshath houses and carrying heavy artillery. The
juice in a wheelchair no match for those two fuckers.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Don't worry. He has something heavy waiting behind the door,
and he he knows that. Now this should have been like,
I mean, this is you know, naked gun era. You know, jasupson.
He's still you know, he's not much action as he
was once the back of the day, but he is
a learned actor in genre. Phil Now you would hope

(39:43):
like like, hey, he sets some stuff up where he
has guns throughout the house just in case some shit happens,
like those are the word of one gun is he
knows it's just heavy club is Hey, if they come in,
I'm gonna whack this one guy and see what happens next.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Doesn't he have a wheelchair mounted machine gun? Why is
that not a thing that we're not watching? If you're
gonna go full board Giallo in the first five fucking
minutes and have titties and face slashing. Then you can
go wheel mounted machine gun in the middle of the movie.
But no, no wheel mounted machine gun for the juice.
And I'm very upset about that, Gary, your Rebuffal.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Yeah, he did die unceremoniously. You know, you're protecting this
young child who he tells. I think he tells her
to hide on her table at some point in time, Yeah,
or run out the back door, like you're not gonna
fucking come from the back door or something.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yeah, he dies a noble death, though.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
I would give the young now. The move there is
to give the young child a gun, right because she
probably goes how to use world by now she's she's
a fourteen year old buddy prostitute.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
Apparently she doesn't.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
She dress more like blossom like.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
I don't even she does, And it's not worth it
to say, hey, you know what, maybe should dress like
an elect of a little uh, a little tart or
something whatever calls her.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
But you know, yeah, what is this ninety two years
so she's sixteen? Yeah, sixteen seven.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
I put too much stuff.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
But you know, if you listen to some of the
inner dialogue and she writes about this manner diary Like
later scenes, it's almost like a Tragy romance stop in
a way, it's like, I want to look at him,
but he be sure he's not looking at me. That
kind of shit, you know, but not in that way.
But you could tell she's kind of like in love
with him, but the way that Matilda is in love

(41:33):
with Leon in the professional in a way.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Right, yeah, I mean it doesn't come off as creepy,
though I think it rings it's true. I imagine girls
have crutches on like old handsome Christofferson type men who
take them under their wing and don't try to abuse
them or shit on them or beat them up, but
they just like, you know, here's some new clothes and

(41:57):
here's some food, and go to bed. You know, he
was nice enough to her. No he wasn't. He didn't
have like the comforting tone or the warm embraced but
he was, you know, he got us some clothes and
gave us some food. I mean, what more do people want?

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Give her a spot with the nuns. Now you need
the nuns with guns in that film too, because eventually
he sends it to some I even know what is
a monastery or something, and it's like a school. I
guess that's a way for from a occultist, because they're
not gonna be both fined her there at all.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
But what he doesn't realize is he's leading her right
into the den of the killer from Silent Night, Deadly Night,
because had she stayed at that nunnery or the monastery
or whatever it was, the nun in this movie is
the same nun as in Silent Night, Deadly Knight. And
so did you not realize that?

Speaker 3 (42:53):
No, I didn't realize that.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
You know, Yeah, she is the same nun in both movies,
and so you know, she would have all got all cozy,
and then Christmas would have come around and old guy
from Silent Dada and I'd come around and being like
kill bad, you know, and she would have got an

(43:15):
axe of the face. And then then where would Tinsel
Handley be huh m.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
Hm, hay be writing about sexy Santa at her in
her diary, you know, because she Tinsel has Tinsel has
daddy issues clearly, and you know, look at.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
That dude, Tinsel and the woman from Silent Night, Dad
and Night is in this movie.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
The coincidence I.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
Think that tracks. Yes, it does track, my.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Friend, it tracks very much.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
So.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Lillian Chauvin or chauven Or Chauvin or Chowvin or Halvin,
Lillian Calvin. It was the woman who played the mother
Superior in Both Night, Dely Knight and No Place to Hide.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Oh, she's a lot of that for this movie, though
she's not she's not quite as mean as a you know, no,
by the way, you don't like Seneco Sena's lap Little Boys, Yes,
you've been bad. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
So it's so it's a weird mix, right, because it's
bookended by like weird cult like spooky like stuff, right,
very sort of what I think of is like English horror,
which tends to have things where all the townsfolk or

(44:38):
all the company or all the city aldermen or whatever
turn out to be all in cahoots and all evil.
Do you know what I mean? I feel like there's
a lot of those movies out there.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Well, they're trying to do that in this movie, but
it's that hopefully successful because it's just like a bunch
of people who are okay with crime by the streets,
but not okay with people who kill cops. You know.
It's the whole society, because the whole crux this film.
Because I'm not saying it, run and buy this film,

(45:10):
watch this film, because I'm gonna, you know, spoil a
little bit right now. You find out that Martin Landow
is a bad guy, but you can't tell the first
twenty minutes, I.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Fucking you can tell from when you meet Martin Landa
You're like, oh, he's the.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
Bad guy because when Christofferson goes to the house, he
finds like this coin thing with like a five pointed
star on it. It has a number on it, which
turns out to be Martin Landown's badge number for no
reason at all, to say, you know what, you know,
this is a memorable number to her, to her why
you know, because the Old CRUSH's film is there's not

(45:43):
reallything supernatural going on. It's just it's just, you know,
you know, cops being into some freaky ship by saying
that they owe this person so please so so please
me sexually. You know, while I record this video and
Tinsel's gonna hide it behind the bedframe or something, you know, it.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Was it was annoying. I'll tell you what was really
annoying to me. I think what I what really bothered
me was that at a certain point there was like
some detective work to be done, yes, and I'm off
and into that, like I'm like, yes, I want to
watch Chris Christophers and like solve this crime. And hopefully
along the way the guy in the black coat and

(46:25):
trolby hat will gallow his way through a couple more ballerinas, right,
And instead, what you get is that at the beginning.
But then just as the detective works getting good, Chris
Chostopherson goes away and does that off screen, and and
we're left just watching, you know, O. J. Simpson try

(46:46):
and protect Drew Barrymore from all these people with guns
and stuff, and then cars going off the Hollywood Hills
and all this sort of stuff, and I'm just like,
all right, I don't know what's going on, but all right.
And then he comes back into it and then she's like, oh,
I found this tape. Oh that's convenient. What's on the tape. Oh,
it's a scene that appears to be my sister doing

(47:09):
weird sex stuff. Okay. Then he's like take it to
the lab, zoom in on it. And now I fucking
always hate this when a writer can't fucking figure anything out.
He's like, Oh, the detective will notice something over in
the corner of this grainy video. He will ask a
lab technician to do something that is literally, even today
with AI, completely impossible, and that is to zoom into

(47:32):
fucking grainy black and white footage and somehow magically make
it clearer. It's not true, it's not possible. It's horse
shittery of the highest order, and it is the avenue
of the weak man to write that in your script
and basically zooms in and goes, oh, it's Martin Landau's
fucking badge number ding ding ding done better go home,

(47:56):
you know. And then what's the reveal. Landau's the head
of some fuck an ivy league, hanging out sect of
police officers and hoity toities who like to hang around
having sex with young women and killing young men. Oh
what a surprise, Like it was just it just felt
so fucking lazy and weird.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
Right now, there were just a group of officers like
that that don't like cop killers, so that they go
out of their way to to to you know, hunt
down copkuls, as they say, get them proper justice. If
that's where it would have ended, that'd be fine. Well
you still us occult mix in there. That that's not
what did do. What you do with the occult They

(48:38):
need to go harder with the occult stuff.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Yeah, either lean into that Alli it was anyway, it
felt like Cannon got two scripts, one which was about
a grizzled old detective looking after a young girl and
learning both learning true lessons about life, and then the
other one was like a slasher film. And yeah, Goland
and glomis and put them two together. We don't have

(49:03):
the money anymore to make two films, so that's just
make one film and put Christophinson in.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Anyway starts hard. It starts put that that opening scene
to where you say, there's this cloak guy. He's saying,
take your top off if she takes her top off,
and then he cuts into her like very very style,
very rapidally, and and you find out that you know,
the cuts and her body or the form of this star.

(49:30):
And then that's where the occult stuff stops. Yeah, she'd
like dug into that a bit more to say, Hey,
you know, let's make this like surreal, so put some
more other real culture, like maybe like somebody goes like
ship the Golden Child had cults. They at least they
got the oat meal with the blood, you know, right,
and brother, du they kill.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
That prostitute that movie.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
But but you know, yeah, that movie is fucking hard
core for like a movie. That's again, that's another great
movie about you know, a grizzled cop, not so grizzled,
but you know, a cop who doesn't want to be
doing the job looking after a kid. The Golden Child.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Hey, they lean into the fantasy of that movie, though,
where they should lean into the occult stuff for this film.
It would have been made much more sense and more
enjoyable experience that these guys just started, Hey, we gotta
shut this grill up, Like no, no, no, these guys
with some hardcore you know, sexual occult.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
Shit, right.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
It seems stupid that they were just like, well, we've
just got to kill her and her sister, Like if
screenwriting one oh one, don't just kill her and then
the only other person you've got to do is kill
the other woman in the movie. No no, no, no, no, no,
no no no. No. Audience is gonna sit there for
an hour going wait, I thought this was a movie
about titties and slashing. That's what I wanted. I wanted

(50:50):
slash titties and occult goings on is what I wanted.
That's what I signed up for in the first ten minutes.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
And the reason why they want to kill Tinsel is
like they're like, hey, she's the only one who knows things.
Clearly that because her sister had the friend who do everything,
and they were trying to kill her at all, you know.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Great but none in that This was the thing. They
were like, we've got to kill Tensel because she might
know something. She clearly doesn't know anything. Like if she
knew something, Chris Coffinson would have shown up, Christofferson, Chris
Christofferson would have shown up. She would have gone, it's
this guy Martin Landau in a hat. He would have

(51:30):
been like, Oh, it's funny, I work for that guy.
Movie over. So like this is what always drives me
nuts about screenwriters who don't fucking think through their plots.
If they're trying to kill her because she knows something,
but she actually doesn't know anything, Like she has nothing
to do with the plot other than they're trying to

(51:51):
kill her. Like she's not a clue. Something she's wearing
is not a clue. Like her bloodline or whatever some
fucking cult thing is not a clue. Like if if
she doesn't know anything and nothing is relevant about her
and the cult, that's this dumb plot, right.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
It is. It's very it's very distarcted. That's sense. And
I I say.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
As a bysally abysmally frustrating, and I feel were you're
looking for. You're looking for something, you're looking for the
cult that to happen, but you're also looking for a
viable reason for all this to be happening. That the
end just kind of kind of sits there. Well, I'm sorry, no.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
It's gonna say. The big idea in the end is, uh,
you know, would you rather kill the guy who killed
your the drunk who killed your wife and join us,
or would you rather like you know, try and fight
us or whatever? And and so that's kind of like
a neat idea. I guess. The trouble is is that

(52:58):
the guy who killed his wife is none other than
Cain Hodder. Oh yeah, And they're trying to make it
out like Caine Hodder from the moment he killed Christofferson's
wife to now is the same perpetually drunk man like
all drunks are like sloppy mid day drunks, like that's Cain.

(53:22):
Hodder didn't really have any lines, like he just was
meant to look drunk in both scenes that he was in.
And so when they were like, oh, you know, you
have the chance to kill the man who killed your wife.
You're beloved, the one thing that has destroyed you have
the chance to kill this guy, and then they wheel
out Hodder doing a kind of wobbly head, sloppy leg

(53:43):
drunk act. I'm like, wait, what is going on?

Speaker 3 (53:48):
Now? You're allowed to believe because you know they say, hey,
we've been after you for a long time to be
in the secret Society of ours? Have they been sitting
down Kane Harnha like he's in fucking getbo. Like feed
them saltines or something.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
You know, saltines and nips. That's what they're keeping him
alive on saltines and nips.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Yeah, because you need the nips so you can say
extra drunk or extra locking drunk. You know, you're not
even good nips like the like, hey, they let the
taste at the bottom of the dips. So you're put
it all together from the spot backwashed left over nips, you.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Know, sloppy second nips.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Mostly backwashed, partially liquor.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
God, now you're turning my stomach gary quick sidebar as
a quick sidebar. So when I was in Costco earlier today,
I saw a candy cold gushes and I would like
to request that change that day. Mean gushs what the fuck?

(54:56):
What's next? Sques?

Speaker 3 (54:58):
Like what you have you eaten the usher before?

Speaker 2 (55:01):
I've never had a gush.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
Gusher is a supposed fruit stack that it's like a
wax thing that has a gel in the biddle. So
it's like it's like it's already grape tomatoes because you're
much like a gusher a grape tomato fishes in your mouth.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Okay, you know, dude, I saw the name of them,
and I'm like, what is it in this country? Like
when I first moved to this country, Like back in
uh two thousand and seven, when I first lived in
this country, I did an Instagram post or Facebook post
or whatever about the funny named sweet delights that you

(55:44):
find in the supermarket. Think that, like you can get
like caramel nips, like that's that's the thing. And then
you've got like you've got really gross shit like isn't
there like spunk my.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
Oh yeah, it's just cookies.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Uh, but then you've got little debbies honey buns.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
Can we can we just have like, can we just.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Have a moment here? Who the fuck said out loud
in a marketing meeting, like I'm going back to like
the Madman era or whatever. Huh?

Speaker 3 (56:26):
Who the fuck.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Said little debbies honey buns? And everyone just went, sure,
that sounds fine. That doesn't sound like Papi talk at all.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Well, little Debbie, you know they're they're they're a wharlock
and themselves. I do love the little Debbie. I I
ate a lot of probably all week long. I should beating.
But they had this this peanut butter traffic infection with
WAP for cookies called the used to be called the
doddy bar which which is now called the duddy buddy,
which are both you know, something that you have with

(56:57):
a friend was doing. Yeah, the fuck with the friend.
I mean we shrod. You know, I'm not gonna like
I said, you know, but uh yeah, gushers they will
finish in your mouth. And it's for that reason you
don't like them. Yeah, like gushers squirters.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
You can see the whiteboard and the marketing meeting, and
I'm going back to like the nineteen nineties kind of marketing,
like kind of short blonde power hair, you know what
I mean, like a tight gray business suit. And she's like,
these are the worst that we came up with.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
I think we're the most disgusting. The Americas ere invenged.
I imagine they did this gushers, squirters and fucking goober
grape that they get the jelly and peanut butter inside
the same jar. Oh fuck, no, fuck no, look at
the knife both before I spread the jelly out of
the break. Okay, I'm like that you put those two

(57:55):
things together.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
It's like, no, no.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Stop putting ship and other ship. We don't. I don't
want that.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
That marshmallow fluff. I ever see the point of people
love to eat that shit too.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Though, Yeah, no, I don't get it. As a bearded man,
marshmallow fluff can fuck off. I want the one that
is self contained, preferably with a chocolate coating like Russell Stova.
The little marshmallowy egg things went to chunk because then
it's an easy to eat. You're not getting it all
over the bed.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
You know, we're back to food again. But you know,
the NASA societies must have invented the s'morest pop tarts
because it takes everything I love to eat, spores but
again the best of the pace. But it took all
the problems I have with spores, it limited them and
put it in a timely tiny grab cracker shreaked you
know where all that is self contained.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Yes, we do like self containment.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
So blessed the man that had been the sports pop tarts.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
You know, well, I just bought today from Costco. This
is going to be called John Cross's Costco Adventure because
I believe we started with Costco. We're uh hanging around
in Costco, and then we'll end in Costco, probably before
they have to check my receipt and scan my little thing. Anyway,
I bought the They do like a s'mores like a brittle,

(59:14):
but it's a s'mores like you know, it has the
ground crack of the chocolate and the marshmallow all self
contained within the chocolate.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Like a small it's just pieces of small like smalls
toffee or whatever. I don't know, like you know what
I mean, like the little jaggedy pieces. But again, itself
contains the marshmallow, so it doesn't go all over them
a mustache.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
This this is a diner, so we're talking about food.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
So it's fine, fine for some fucking gushers and goober grapes.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
I'm gonna have a gusher and I'm gonna swallow it
down with an otus spunk buyer, and then I'm gonna
lick some caramel nips and chow down on little debbies
honey buns.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
That is a big glass of milk dough. See, I'm
all pull up now, so you know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
You need some of that Nico Kidman milk. Right, it's
not a new movie that's out about Nico Kiman drinking
milk and getting railed by some dude.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Baby Girl is a movie out there, and it's not
Digital Mouse. I may actually watched this movie, but it's
it's kind of like Nosparatu. All heard about that film
is that that that vampire hangs dick. That's all I
heard about the film, And that Nicole Kibby gets Figer
bagged and Baby Girl that's all I heard about the film.
Not you know that's a good film, right, This is
why you should watch Baby Girl. Yeah, No, that girl

(01:00:35):
gets Figer bagged at this movie. You should watch it
for that? What reason? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Right, Well, because that's how they sell movies these days,
although I have to say not just these days. I
put in yesterday. As I sit and work here at
my desk, I have a VHS machine to my right,
and I put in all the VHS that I've been
accumulating over the last few months for the store downtown.

(01:01:00):
I put them in and I just watch them, and
it's like, keep us sell, keep us sell, keep oursells.
And I came across what purported to be on the
front cover like an erotic thriller action film, right uh.
And it's called Dark Tide and it's got Chris Sarandon
in it, and then two people who worked with Zalmon King,

(01:01:22):
So that'll tell you all that you need to know.
One in The Red Show Dies and one in two
Moon Junction Darling. Anyway, put it in the machine, and
because it's a screener copy, it has all these videos
at the beginning that are like trailers for the movie.
And then a voice overcomes a go starring Chris Surandon
of Child's playing blah blah blah blah blah, his movies

(01:01:44):
made x amount at the box office last year and
Vidmark Entertainments films. This was a Vidmark containment film made
x amount at the mom and pop video stores this year.
You want to buy this video? You know how they
used to send screeners out to video store owners, Right,
and they play the trailer for the movie. So I
see the trailer for the movie before the movie, and

(01:02:04):
I've not read up on the movie. I just see
there's just like a sexy woman in a diving gear,
like looking scared and floating up to the top of
the water, almost like Jaws. And it just says like
dark Tide. So I just thought it was like gonna
be like a horror titty flick. I had no idea.
So I see the trailer, and sure enough, the trailer

(01:02:25):
is just like it's like they came to an island
and she was aroused by the hunky boatman so and
so from Wild Orchid or whatever he was whatever movie
he was from a two moon junction.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
That was it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
And then it was like her passion knew no bounds.
And then it was just a series of like nudy
scenes in the trailer, right, and then like occasional shots
of Chrysa around and looking like annoyed. Then it like flashed,
then there was like a gunshot, then there was some screaming,
and then it ended. It was like dark tired, the
erotically charged thriller, blah blah. Right, so I was like, Okay,

(01:03:02):
that whatever, that'll pass the time while I'm working a
bunch of bouncing titties in the corner. Well no, so,
first of all, Susan Chris Sarandon is just a dude
on an island who keeps diving for snakes because he's
trying to extract the venom from the snakes to send
back to the US. Because the venom for these particular

(01:03:25):
Timburton black and white eel looking snake motherfuckers from the
bottom of the deep apparently cures fucking cancer and fucking
glauckomer and thrush. I have no idea. It cures a
lot of things, right, And he's got this deal. It's
this deal Gary, that he's going to make all this
money selling fucking Tim Burton snake venom to the US, right,

(01:03:50):
And then his wife shows up and she's all like, lo,
I'm a six you will, lady. She just walks through
this all island town and everyone's like ooh la lah
the sexual lady, and she's like, yes, that's right, I
am a sexual old lady. And she shows up on
the boat and then like, for the first few times

(01:04:12):
that she's on the boat, like, they don't find any snakes,
and he starts to get really mad about the fact
that he doesn't have any snakes. It's at this point
where I'm like, I'm sorry, what the fuck is this?
There seems to be about Chris Sarandon surrounded rather desperately
needing snakes. Otherwise, his plan to make millions of dollars

(01:04:33):
for the venom of snakes falls through and he has
no other fucking thing, right, So but then dude, it
goes all fucking straw dogs in the middle of the movie,
like she yes, okay, she has one scene with the
lad from two Moon Junction. Oh, look at the muscles

(01:04:55):
on that one from two Moon Junction, that guy, Right,
she has one with him where she's like, oh, the
vapors overcame me in a dimly lit pool underneath some caves.
That he took me too conveniently on one day on
his day off. Right, They have one scene and then
She's like, look, that can't happen again. I want to

(01:05:15):
give my relationship a chance, you know, please don't come
near me again. It's all fine blah blah blah blah blah.
The rest of the movie, and I'm not kidding Gary
was like people chasing her, people beating her up, and
people like raping her. That was the rest of them.
And I was like, oh, I was like, um um,

(01:05:37):
like it was. It was such a bait and switch
because I thought to myself, like, if I'd been that
teenager right that was in the video store and looked
at the back of Dark Tide and went poor, I
think there's gonna be some tints in this and take
it home as the teenager being like, oh mom, it's
a horror movie. It's nothing, and then put it on upstairs,
expecting an erotically charged thriller and instead getting Chris Sarah

(01:05:59):
surround and getting upset about the fact that he doesn't
have enough snake venom that then turns into a fucking
despicable nineteen seventies rate revenge movie. And I'm like, I
was saying, it's gonna be the worst Bainton switch in
cinema ever.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Did so LEAs and straws. You know, when they come
to the village or to go live in their their
English cottage. All the dudes of Susan George sparked to
that movie. I really sparked the whole village. Just just
spell her Regina and say who's this asshole she's with?
They did they go obade the house? You know, Dustin

(01:06:34):
Hopp has gotta step up. This just sounds like a
very destroyted movie.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Oh it was weird, dude, because I'm like that. It
was so weird to me because clearly, like the screenwriter
said to himself, well, hang on a second, I've got
to have this couple on an island, one couple, one
guy in person in the couple has to be older
the other person. I need an excuse why he would
be on the boat and she wouldn't be on the boat.

(01:07:00):
And then blah blah blah blah blah, and then this
can happen, and that can happen. Waituh, what if they're
collecting something from the ocean, something for the ocean. What
can they collect from the ocean? Like and he went
all the way down till he was like, oh, snake venom,
Like how is that, Like, who comes up with that
as a pivotal because it wasn't just like, oh, what's
he doing on the islands, Oh, he's collecting steak venom,

(01:07:22):
All right, let's move on from that. It was it
was like a third of the plot, you know what
I mean. And then of course mister Ulallah muscles from
two Moon Junction contrives away for Chris Sarandon to get
bitten by the snake, and so he then gets comatosed

(01:07:43):
for like a third of the movie so that this
poor woman can just undergo some of the like just
horrible humiliation at the hands of it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
It was such a weird movie. I was like, that
is one dark, dark tide Gary.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
So the woman, the woman gets violated, yes, ultiple times
in a sweaterless Chris says, break his bright night sweater
on this film collect collects no zalving, no no better.
For the Zalman King. Snake oil is the main ingredient.
And those those sex pills you buy it you buy
at the gas station.

Speaker 4 (01:08:18):
Yeah, that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Yeah, there has to be the main ingredient in those
sex pills for the gas station.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Tim Burton, Zalmond King snake venom. Yeah, yes, anyway, we digress,
let us finish up with no place to hide. I
think I gave it like two two styles out of five.
I think it's listen, it's very polished, it's cannon, you know,
it's it's it's filmed very well. There's some like mild

(01:08:45):
action scenes that are quite enjoyable. Uh you know, the
killing at the beginning is pretty graphic and fun, and
Chris Christofferson is uh suitably grouchy, grumpy and gravel voiced.
So there are things to enjoying the movie. But in general,
it doesn't pay off what it's picking up, and it
doesn't pick up what it should pay off, if that

(01:09:06):
makes any sense.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
No. Two two is more than generous for this film
because it's a film that it doesn't it doesn't know
what it wants to be, and that that's his biggest
crime is that you start out. You start out hard,
you know, with the cult stuff. You he carved the
symbol into her. See you think you're gonna get some
good occult stuff, but you don't get that good occult stuff,

(01:09:27):
and then you get that ending that just says, hey,
you know what if you kill this guy, kill this
jot that kills your wife, you're one of us, dude,
Like he just throws all his morals out the window
when he's been avoiding this for so long and he
doesn't do this of course. And then you get the
the the mega happy ending.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
Yeah, that was that was so tacked on, so tacked on.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
You get the mega happy ending where she's she's he's
supposedly dead, but he's not dead. He's not dead on paper,
but apparently people know he's still alive because when she
runs down the hill, so they go give the gratuitous
hug to say no, you're my daddy, you know hug,
and then they drive away, but they say, by the way,

(01:10:11):
all these guys tell while you're alive, Well, then you
need a more movie in there for him to maybe
like kill some of these people. But she can't kill
his shoes because they're police officers are like high ranking
officials and the city government or something. This is the
non gusher fruit stack of of genres of.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
A well, this is the fruit snack that you expect
to be a gusher, and yet sadly there is no gush.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
And there's no gush. It doesn't finish it doesn't finish
in your mouth, doesn't do.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Anything coming soon from Costco female ejaculate the fruit snack.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
It just sits there. Yeah. But O J. Simpson dies unceremoniously,
he cause you know he gets see he gets a
spinal injury twice twice.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Yeah, two spinals, dude, not one two?

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
All this for for nothing. It just doesn't you know
what to find the way these dudents were slaughter you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
You know what I wanted to happen when they introduced
oj is. I I wanted John Goodman to show up
and be like, I've seen a lot of spinals, dude,
and this guy is faking.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
This guy's gonna find the straight remember that with a club.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
This guy can fucking walk. I swear to god. John
Kibban just thoughts waking O J. Out of his ja.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
It just just doesn't do anything. It just it just
gonna sits there. Yeah, you can say, hey, this is
late tier canon. Their hearts really weren't in it, because
there is some l tier Canadon that works. We watched
here with the Terrorifort Show one time. This is Chuck
Norris fighting Jack o'hallerin, who was the big guy from Superman.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Too, and what about fifty to fifty with Doc Peter
Weller and airplanes Robert Hayes.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
Yeah, somebodys do work. They's just like, like you said,
there was two scripts there and they kind of mashed
it together and it hurt.

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
It hurt the film and it hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
It hurt my experience of the film. But but this
is one of those rare unicorns where you had this
on BHS and I had a laser disc, so it
was like a match bate.

Speaker 4 (01:12:21):
It happened.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
Yes, that just didn't really turn out all that could.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
So I watched it on the v H and Gary
watched it on the l DA. But yes, despite starring
in the movie, Chris Kerstophson himself has scorned it ever since.
I love sometimes IMDb trivia is written by some real poets, Gary,
because I just love Chris Gerostophson scorning. I scorned this movie.

(01:12:45):
It is a box on my house. When fans come
asking about the picture, as I'm sure many, he often
pretends to not remember ever filming it. I love that
that was his tactic. Instead of just being like it
was a bunch of shit, I did it for the money,
He instead of saying that he goes what movie and

(01:13:08):
they're like, you know, no place to hide with do Barrymore? Nope,
never heard of it. Come on, you played the main
cop and I was not in the front. Like doesn't
that just drag that out longer?

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
Oh my gosh, Yeah, yeah, the whole conversation. It's like
certain certain rhetorics, certain things that you know could pull
it off pretty well. This one did do that for me,
and it just yeah, I'd be embarrassed to be in
this sort of way because it just it just doesn't
do anything right. I think my first I'm sorry, Oh no, I.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Was gonna say it's it's an interesting post et, but
pre ou la la Drew Barrymore role, you know what
I mean. It's it's sort of it's right before she
does ship like Poison Ivy and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:13:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Doppel Ganger, which is by far her best film by
the way.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
Yes, is very good because like years before this, views
were this year my first introduction. Not the best film
you're gonna watch all day, but it's fucking delightful. It
has a beginning and a bit of one. An end
was Big Top Peewee. That was my first introduction of
Christmas Officer. So since then he was just this charismag
dude who ran who ran a circus? Apparently I want

(01:14:20):
to watch other stuff he was in that wasn't looking
for this, But you know, you get more accomplished, and
what's what's someone call you should because it's not Peek's
Big Adventure, a subpar sequel leaps and bounds over this
and what comes out after this.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
But let's see big big Top Peewee by the way,
about to get a four K release.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
That's that makes me happy. I don't know what it does, Big.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Top Peewee dude, four K release. They didn't just go
blu ray with it. They were like, fuck it, someone
somewhere is gonna want four K Big Top Peewee. Who
can fucking blame them? Hallelujah? What a world we live in.
There's a little bit of joy for today, Big Top
p we on four K. Come on, now, that's the
world that we live in. Sure we won't be able
to afford to buy it, but it's all good.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah it's I can see why
you'd be embarrassed to be in a film like this,
because he would go on to make better genre stuff
after it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:18):
I don't know how to explain this any better than that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
You know, well, you know what you do, you say,
you say, I scorn you, No, please to hide you
are a box on my podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
After this, he is in a film which sounds much
more interesting, Chris Christopperson and Lance Headbergson at Knights where
the Vicus art says warrior versus cyborg in the futuristic
Showdown to end the ball Oh in the future, a
kickboxer in a box and a robot leader revolution against

(01:15:50):
ruling cyborgs directed had written by Alver pu Now that
doesn't say, hey, this is le Blence better than this movie.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
There was a time where Chris Christopherson was so hot
up he went from a cannon film to a fucking
Pune joint. Yeah, Jesus doc Tides, indeed, Gary doc Tides, Indeed.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
Indeed Dolphin Kingsnake Oil.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Listen, Chris Surrandon fell prey to that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
Nineteen ninety fourteen Moe sad Busters. Okay, yeah, it's parody
of Western Tropes. At eighteen eighty five, a powerful cattle
rancher wants to get small folks land. Fortunately, I have
a serious stranger, probably Christmas Jofferson shows up to help
the meek, written and directed by eug Levy, started by
Chris starring Chris Christoppers and John Burnon Fred Willard.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
What to help the meek?

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
Well, I would watch this probably yok, you know Western,
but but you know what, it sounds much more delightful
and much more put together.

Speaker 4 (01:16:57):
The No Place to Hide.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
Right, Yes, I doubt there'll be any titdy Ballerinas being
slashed up at the beginning of that movie.

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
So things we're looking up for our man here because
of ninety five he would make blade. It's stuff before that, sir,
that in ninety seven. Either way, he's making much better
things after this. Yeah, yeah, no, of course, And before
this it's just this. He does good things before this

(01:17:25):
and great stuff after this. It's really just this.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
But yes, no place to hide now literally has no
place to hide because we have exposed it for what
it is, and we shun it, we shun it, we
scorn it. It is a pox on our podcast, and
we move on from it. At this point, I believe
that we are going to insert some commercials. I'm afraid

(01:17:50):
that the podcast gods to create because no one wants
to pay for this fucking shit on Patreon. If you did,
I would take it off a platform that demanded that
I had commercials in it. But anyway, listen to some commercials.
Gary and I are going to take a quick break
and then we'll be right back with the parade way
and into the sun. So, uh, hang on a second,

(01:18:16):
I gotta try one more of these. Okay, these are
these are really weird. So I don't know about you, dude,
but do you have to like try it when you
see a new thing? You know, when they put I
don't know, peanut butter in a TwixT or something, you
know what I mean, like when that was a thing,
or they put like popping candy in chocolate or something.

(01:18:40):
You know what I mean, Like when they do something
weird and do like a special version of something a
strawberry KitKat or some shit. Are you the kind of
person needs to try it or not?

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
It depends on the flavor, like a like what do
you call it? Kitkats are fucking weird for one thing,
because they keep making different flavors, right, I think the
only kind of light is like, yeah, I look at like,
will this appeal to be? What was the chural one
because they did like an apple pie one all kinds.

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
Of words stuffed but sounds too weird.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
Kind of like what what they do with oreos? Like
these flavors of oreos. I was like, no, I'll take
the play ones. Are the golden ones making very much? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
You like my wife. My wife is like only original,
only plane. She doesn't like any derivation from what she
deems to be the original sweet or biscuit or candy
or cookie, the.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
Peanut butters like people are snickers. Yeah, those are h
those are the ship I bellie find those anywhere though.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
Do you remember when they did like the midnight milky
ways that were like dark chocolate and like white Newga
on the inside.

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
Do you try any of those? Oh? Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
Yeah, you know things like that when I'm like that.
So anyway, I'm walking along to day in the supermarket
and I see this original Skittles popped spelled pop because
that's cool Gary, That's how the kids would spell it.
Right on the front, it says freeze dried candy. But
I don't think just freeze drying it is making it pop.

(01:20:12):
They've put it in something. Basically what it is is
it's a skittle that they've put in something like a
fucking dehydrator or a uh whatever, they put pop chips
in like an air fryer or whatever. Right then they've
freeze dried it and it just comes like all the
thing that's normally chewy and gooey in the middle is

(01:20:35):
now like kind of a it's like eating coral, but
it still has like the flavored shell with it. It's
a really weird thing. And clearly, clearly skittle CEOs have
entire or people at the top level of Skittle, the

(01:20:57):
people who make the decisions, the sea executives at Skittles
clearly have too much fucking time on the hands because
like everyone else during the pandemic, they went afry of
fucking crazy, and someone went, what if we put a
fucking skittle? What if we fucking a fright and freezed
ryt I wonder what that would do to a skittle?
And the guy with the big cigar at the end

(01:21:18):
of the table was like, do it, sell it done.
And then when I'm playing fucking eighty five rounds of.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
Golf, see, I can upset certain things, and Skittles have
to do with the things because for a while there
they were placed in the original skittles, they re placed
a live skittle with a green apple skittle, and it
just sucks up my flavor peller for Skittles.

Speaker 4 (01:21:41):
I'm like, no, just change it back, Just change it back.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
You know, what are you doing, Skittles. You can't just
change one green fruit for another green fruit and expect
there's nothing notice.

Speaker 3 (01:21:52):
I like that though.

Speaker 4 (01:21:53):
It's like the blue sour Patch kid.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
I'm a fan of my star Patch kids, right, why
not they introduced the fucking blue well, Like, get this
fucking blue thing out of here. You know, what are
you even doing?

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
Yeah? What fruit is blue?

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Lots actually, but you know.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
It just messes up the whole flavor pellet of my candy.
I'm like, no, and with you do.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
But candy doesn't tend to do you notice, like once
you get so fun down the candy aisle, Uh, candy
doesn't taste like candy anymore. It just tastes like what
it is. So an orange skittle doesn't really taste of orange.
You just taste of skittle, you know, Like it just
tastes of the e numbers and the preservatives.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
But there's certain things, you know, you're used to. You're
used to certain flavors. It's like if they went out
and changed like, uh, you know, the bull's eyes to
carggle with with with the banilla the middle of it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:22:47):
Yeah, they went and change those which they had.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
They had those things cowtails where they have a chocolate
chocolate cowtail, they have a strawberry cowtail, you know, but
you still have the option to get the regular cowtail.

Speaker 4 (01:23:00):
Right, Yeah, there was.

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
There was no option where they chased the skills to say, hey,
if you still like the live in there, here's this
bag for you. Like, no, fuck your fucking live skintle.
We're gonna put this fucking great apple thigure there. So
you got fucking sour apple, fucking piece of shit in
this fucking skittle bag. I'm just I'm like I turned
to an old bad all of a sudden.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
Yeah, it angered Gary. It angered Gary deep, and it
went down deep into some kind of primordial.

Speaker 3 (01:23:25):
Part of you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
I feel like I feel like it really angered your core.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
It's like that that beam that says out to that
age where I get upset with a move step in
the grocery store. Yes, that is me.

Speaker 4 (01:23:37):
Where they moved up the grocery store.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
You know a thousand Stop moving things in grocery stores.
Stop it. We memorize our grocery stores. They're always like, right,
but if we move it around, maybe they'll buy. No, no, no, no, no. Look,
we weren't buying whatever horrendous fucking raisin, fucking cereal that
you want us to fucking buy that's got dry bits

(01:24:00):
of hellish fruit in it. We're not buying it. Whether
you're stick it in the first aile or the fifteenth dollar,
we're not fucking buying it. It's not like something we're
gonna walk past something that has fucking cow pats on
toast or whatever, and suddenly we're gonna be like, sure,
let's eat some cowshit on toast. Like we're not suddenly
going to realize it because you moved everything around. In fact,
we're just gonna spend extra long time looking for the

(01:24:23):
ship that we used to know where it was, and
now we don't know where it is because we do
the same shopping every week. I don't know about you, Gary,
but like when I go to the supermarket, I'm getting
quite shrill about this what is happening.

Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
It's like I like rice or Rony. You know, I
will wear it. It's like rice with past I get it. Yeah,
but also like extra rice. Now I feel these should
be in the same section. Right, You're not wrong there, Gary,
They're not in the same section.

Speaker 4 (01:24:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
Well, what kind of fucking madness is that? Get me
your supermarket manager on the phone immediately.

Speaker 3 (01:24:55):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
All right, so well, look, let us do. Let us
do what the former and sadly current president did when
there was an eclipse, and let's look directly into the sun. Sir. Yes,
that's right. We have Michael Peray. We are in the
Paraye way with this movie. And then we have Sir

(01:25:19):
Anthony of the Michael Hall's Nurse. That's right. From the
breakfast club to a parade joint. We've got Anthony Michael Hall,
who at all is not the guy from that Postal
Inspectors show on a Saturday morning on TV. It's not
that guy, Nor was he the guy in SVU who

(01:25:39):
took over as the head Muckymuke. It wasn't that guy either.
He looks like that guy, but it's not. It's Anthony
Michael Hall, that's right. And he's a funny, little cheeky
Chappie worming his way into the hearts of everyone but
Peray on an air force base. That's right, Gary, talk
us through the lot into the Sun, hands down, one

(01:26:04):
of the greatest movies ever made. What a joy to
discover this movie told us through it. So I'm gonna
eat some skittles.

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
And now now that much better. This is basically the
plot to You a Hardwood The Hard Way with Michael j.
Fox and James Woods to where This time, instead of
James Woods being a gritty cop, Michael Perey plays a
gritty fighter pilot who has to take a movie star
played by the Micaholl under his wing so he can

(01:26:31):
get experience for his his war fighter pilot of flying movie.
But of course wants to go open a jet really baddie.
He's like a fucking child about it. And they get
shot down again into some real shit and you know
chaos and you know culture clash ensus, and you get

(01:26:53):
two handsome gents in the desert, uh fighting with a
Arabic or passive Mexican people, you know, so that you know, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
Well, it's like top Gun. They never announced who their
enemy actually is. It's just sort of generic Asian Indian
Middle Eastern you know, Greek kind of thing. You don't
know who it is. You don't know who it is now,
and they don't mention who it is. You're just meant.
It's just meant to be like, oh, look, it's people
who ride camels instead of horses. So therefore we've got

(01:27:25):
to hate them.

Speaker 3 (01:27:27):
That's fine, because you're you're only you're possibly you know,
do stereotypes of pick a culture.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
So what I what I love about this movie is
that they've sent Anthony Michael Hall Tom Slade, not to
an Air Force base, you know, in America, where he
might be able to just casually spend his days, you know,
actually observing American Air Force base maneuvers or whatever it
is that he's interested in. No, they've sent him pretty

(01:27:56):
far across seats, like like halfway across the world to
an American Air Force base in a hostile territory, like
where just Americans doing maneuvers in their airspace above the
American base. Uh, just them doing that, they are suddenly

(01:28:20):
out gunned by MiGs everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
They look, Oh yeah, because that's your wand you said
you're you're because they keep bringing up because here, you
know how he's insured for all this, YadA, YadA, YadA,
But let's just sort of right, and the ship was possible. Yeah,
a flyer a half, a click out of bounds, you
mage shut down.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
And Peay, who fully knows this, says, all right, you're
gonna try and sleep with my woman. Fine as a jape,
As a joke, I'm gonna take you up into possible
enemy airspace and do loop the loops for half an
hour just to hopefully make you throw up. But there

(01:29:03):
is no denting the unruffable exterior of mister Cockshaw Anthony
Michael Hall. What a glorious performance he gives in this movie,
Gary your rebuffal.

Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
Oh yeah, he's world class Hollywood Hollywood douche in this movie,
you know so well. And he's come off some some
some pretty you know, douchey rolls. He come off of
Johnny be Good. These are all decent films. Of course,
you know the film that maybe hate him for one
film was Over Scissorhands, where he plays a world class
douche in that movie, you know, say him playing a

(01:29:37):
douchebag in this movie, he's in good practice. So the
point that he had this arrogant movie star. He plays
it pretty well, almost like I'm not sure if he's
playing himself at this point. I've bet him recently he's
I met him walking down the convention room Hall, Florid.
He shook my hand and he said a load to me.
You know, so he's that kind of nice person. But

(01:30:00):
but yeah, he plays he plays that that Hollywood douche
titled YadA YadA YadA. Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
Want to do this perfectly. Cast.

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
We had all discussion about Stephen first and Silent Rage
at the last beef, you know, where he plays like
this kid that that he plays like this guy who's
like who reminds you of a kid who goes on
a ride along with a police officer. He wants to
go on a ride along with Perey here, and he's
just like he's all giddy about until shi gets real, you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
Know, right and co starring as Michael Perey's a bit
of Totti none other than Deborah Moore. Deborah Moore who
was in Bullseye with Sir Michael Caine and Roger Moore,

(01:30:53):
but who's rather attractive in a little naval suit or
whatever it is she's wearing.

Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
Oh the it's also says she's in a film with
I think this is Panco.

Speaker 4 (01:31:02):
It's Frocodro top Line with Franco Nio.

Speaker 3 (01:31:06):
Yes, that's right, Yes, it sounds very interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
And she's the Warriors of the Apocalypse as Princess Sheila
from nineteen eighty four Nights. But yeah, she is in
hands down the worst Roger Moore film, and by extension,
the worst Michael Caine film, and at least the third
to worst Michael Winner film that's ever been made Bullseye,

(01:31:33):
which I have such a secret love for. But I
but I also recognize it is a fucking atrocious film.
Like it's a it is a It's one of those
where you sit slack jorn throughout the whole movie going
I'm sorry, what that like? Someone gave Michael Winner money
and and fucking Michael Cain and Roger Moore and this

(01:31:54):
is what we get.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
Come on now, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I I I yelled
it's a laser to because he said, hey, I recognize
this film, So yeah, I'm gonna watch it questionally because
you bidly recommended it and you told me what a
trader record with a guy I'll sit do this.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
Yeah, No, it's it's it's baffling. It's it's baffling. Michael
Cain and Roger Moore played two sets of identical twins.
In fact, I don't even think they're actual twins. I
think they're just meant to be doppelgangers. But of course,
in the usual film style, they just look completely identical
to each other. And there's lots of like riding around

(01:32:30):
in the highlands dressed in kilts on motorbikes. It's completely
fucking weird. I might have to watch it tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:32:37):
Are there two uh two and two? Or they supposedly twins?
I'm confused here two and two.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
So there's there's my Michael Cain and Roger Moore are
friends and they have doppel gangers who also conveniently happen
to be friends over in the States.

Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
It's like double impact, but it sucks.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
Well, yeah, no double impact if it's made by old, fat,
creaky Michael Winner and Michael Caine and Roger Moore show
up and give it there all, but there is just
nothing to give. It's like it would be like trying
to put a lawnmower starter on an empty cardboard box,
Like you can keep yanking that thing, but it ain't
going anywhere anyway, So into the Sun, Deborahmore, Michael Pray,

(01:33:24):
Michael Hall, and of course everyone's favorite corpse it is
Terry Kaiser.

Speaker 3 (01:33:32):
This guy plays wonderful douchebag in Things Too, this movie
Hollywood Douche Friday thirty Part seven Psychiatrist Douche.

Speaker 4 (01:33:42):
You know he plays he plays douche real well he does.

Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
And oh what about talking about ladies more, the more
of the more ladies, the better we get a cameo
from soft core Darling and and Samurai star Melissa Moore
in this movie. You would know her from of course

(01:34:06):
Hard to Die with Peter Spellas the Jim Minowski Joint,
as well as Samurai copp and many many, many other
low tear erotica. Let's just say that Melissa Moore, who
is literally in this movie simply to make eyes at
Anthony Michael Hall. Yes, she's just in this movie. The

(01:34:28):
I bang Michael Hall.

Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
Oh my gosh, there's other ik this fell too. I'm
sure we'll talk about it, but you know, it's yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
It's a weird scene because I'm like, oh, Melissa Moore
is in this movie. Oh wait, Melissa mow is No
longer in this movie.

Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
Yeah, yeah, because they have these like professional capture Air
Force people a hardcore air force base. But when he
shows up, they're like, even the dudes are like, ooh, you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
Know, you're so right, Anthony Michael Hall walks into this
place and instead of all these hardened air force guys
or naval guy, is it is it? Are they top
gun like naval guy?

Speaker 4 (01:35:10):
Yeah, oh yeah, that's what we're going for.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
But yes, all these hard and like naval fighter jet
pilots or whatever are all just like fawning, Oh my god,
this guy is so cool. And this guy is like
the coolest dude whoever cooled his way onto cool town,
Like he's they just think Michael Hall is the tits.
And then every woman in the entire place, including Parae's lady.

(01:35:36):
And if I was Parree, I would have just said, no,
you are dead to me. I scorn you.

Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
I would have been like, you.

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
Got within a hair's breath of Anthony Michael's tiny Hall.
So I want nothing to do with you. I spurn you,
and I'm gonna fly off into the sunset with Melissa Moore,
who is at least ten times hotter, even though deborahmore
cute herself in a hallway.

Speaker 3 (01:36:03):
Yeah, it's hilarious because the dudes almost see more were
horny for him than the women do. And they're all like,
they're all steos saying, oh look look who's here. I
see there was such and such, and they're just fucking
I fucking I'm like, yeah, I'll put that by spank
bag for later. You know.

Speaker 4 (01:36:20):
I just just just.

Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
Just looking at him, like like, did you have.

Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
To say that? It's like just put water in my mouth?

Speaker 3 (01:36:26):
Did not notice that you were on your mouth for you?

Speaker 4 (01:36:28):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
You're not wrong, Gary, You're not wrong. Everyone wants to
eye back this guy.

Speaker 3 (01:36:34):
They are hoarding for Davis Slade though I alost killed John A.
Cross on the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:36:40):
What for Tom Slade? Then you name of this movie. Look,
we might be making jokes about this movie, but I
want I want to say something when I put this
in right again, this is a lot like Duc Tider whatever.
I had no idea what to expect. I just saw
on the front cover you had Anthony, Michael holl and
Michael Parrey. They were both in flight suits. There was
explosions behind them. Was just like, oh, this is Iron

(01:37:01):
Eagle but with Pea or this is Top Gun but
with Parrey. I had no idea that Michael Hall was
an actor and Paray was like a hard and fighting
a pilot, and there was going to be you know,
hijinks like this plays out like Spies like Us at
certain point, you know what I mean, Like it has
that level of kind of humor and knock about silliness

(01:37:25):
to it. And so the moment that I realized that's
what it was, I was so charmed by it that
everything that happened subsequently was just a joy, do you
know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:37:35):
Gary?

Speaker 3 (01:37:36):
Oh? Yeah, Well, the chemistry is there. You know, the
plot is very very very simple. I mean it gets
to the point where you know it say, yeah, this
all works like the last film. Yeah, so in a
way this is executed better than other films that not
by a log shot, but you know, they do have

(01:37:58):
chemistry that makes you want to continue watching this picture.
So there's that.

Speaker 4 (01:38:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
Now on the fight sequences taken from somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (01:38:08):
The fight stuff, I don't know for sure. I think
they use clips from other movies, and it would surprise me.

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
Yeah, the aerial scenes are mostly stock footage from Iron
Eagle and Iron Eagle too.

Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
Oh you know it works, though it works, you you know,
cut the film, you know, because you might as well.

Speaker 2 (01:38:29):
No, they do a really good job of like cutting
inside the plane and the exterior shots.

Speaker 3 (01:38:36):
And really JANKI nineteen ninety one cgi what we call
a flight view whether to shoot stuff down.

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
Yeah, but I mean none of that bothered me when
they got like, you know, I I quite like the
sort of you know, boys owned adventure daring, do you know,
kind of nonineteen fifty throwback jail break and you know
base attack that where they kind of escape from from

(01:39:08):
the enemy and all that kind of stuff. I loved
all that stuff. All they're running about exploding and shooting
and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:39:16):
Well, yeah, for sure, all that was very well choreographed.

Speaker 3 (01:39:20):
And I like the fact that they introduced again this
film makes much persons the other one the rebels early
on that inavertibly give them to the enemy, but then
the rebels come back again to make all of this plausible,
that one one soldier and then you know, a Hollywood
star could escape this this care where they want to

(01:39:43):
essentially make our Hollywood start in cells.

Speaker 4 (01:39:48):
That's working for these people.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
Yes, there's a brief moment where it kind of becomes
a little like twenty four. Well, suddenly they're sitting him
down in front of a camera and asking him to
like denounce America, which I think happened in twenty four
like eight times or something.

Speaker 3 (01:40:02):
Oh yeah, yeah, this all works because you have these
these rebels that they're willing to go to bad for
them because they're good guys and these other guys are
bad guys and they made mistakes that you got to like,
you know, step up and say hey, you.

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
Know, yeah, it's like in the Living Daylights when James
Bond partners with the Muja Hageen to overthrow the villainous dictatorship,
only for years later for them to become the enemy.

Speaker 3 (01:40:32):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, this all works, though, I mean the
chemistry in the deserts, you know where you know, first
of all, he's he's real chill, you know, saying hey,
I can use some sunscreen, blah blah blahlahlah blah blah.
But but you know he leaves them. Of course he
doesn't need him, but apparently he does need him because.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
You know, in general, Anthony Michael Hole kind of chevy
chases his way through this movie like Chevy Chase in
the Three Amigos, where there really is nothing that hurts
Michael Hall, like even once he's in prison and he's
like being talked to by that mercenary or whatever through
the bars and stuff, like he's just he's just too

(01:41:13):
cool for school. Like he's like whatever, do you know?
You know what I mean? Like he just has an
answer for everything. He gets put in a compression chamber
that's meant to like generate g force and he's and
Michael Prai's on most people pass out or whatever, and
he's just having a goof and I banging Melissa more
and and like making faces and stuff and all this
it's just he it's you have to play it like that, right,

(01:41:36):
You need that kind of Bob Hope style kind of cockshawmanness,
if that's a word.

Speaker 4 (01:41:45):
To be fair.

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
Though, my gosh, you know, Peree or our pilot is
taking all the damage from these from these terrorists and
you know, well, well, good old missus Slaid there is
basically being groom for TV. Like he's not really getting
damaged because he want to say, hey, Hollywood star, he's

(01:42:07):
the one piece, you know, So he's just tied up
a little bit, you know. So this whole movie even
even there, even in the eye of major he's that
he's actually taking a beating, so he could be cocksure.

Speaker 2 (01:42:24):
This comes from director Fritz Kersh who is also known
for Children of the Corn but also one of one
of my favorite films from nineteen eighty five, with none
other than Sleezy mxpainea in it. Tough Turf.

Speaker 3 (01:42:42):
I have to rap a film he made as well,
because he made a lot of random stuff and the
pill have a rappers called Winter Take Winners, Take All.
This is. This is a motocross movie which contains the
line of you know what my name is is written
on my ass so you know who to follow, you know.
So it has like no like big stars in it

(01:43:05):
as far as like the star roles. But Peter Delawize
is in it, Courtney Gaines is in it, Tony Longo
is in it, and its supporting roles.

Speaker 4 (01:43:15):
Oh where is it at? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
I've actually seen one of his other movies. I've actually
seen Fatal Charm Yeah, from nineteen ninety, all about a
young girl who becomes obsessed with a raping, murdering asshole
who's Imprisoned?

Speaker 3 (01:43:32):
Is it Paul Smith Christopher Atkins? Not? I mean in
the in the Winner Take All, it's Paul Smith or
or Waite Smith. Let me have a little.

Speaker 4 (01:43:42):
One of those guys is in this movie.

Speaker 3 (01:43:44):
And he's there for like, I guess, I'll be honest,
I guess he doesn't do much.

Speaker 2 (01:43:48):
But yeah, icking Winch Smith, It's got Courtney Gaines, It's
got uh Denver, Richtor, Robert Krantz, Kathleen York Don, Paul, Yeah,
I could. No, I don't see I don't see a Smith.

Speaker 4 (01:44:05):
I'm thinking of another film. No, dude, So but did
this film?

Speaker 3 (01:44:09):
You know it's interest because it's in that motocross genre.
But this guy has made anywhere from this to Children
of the Cord too. I think, uh yeah, like a
like a teen sex rob with under under the Boardwalk.
He's made gore with our man Ali Smith. So what
you're saying is he is I'm sorry, so Ali read

(01:44:34):
and Jack Palace. Yes, Paul Smith, I'm sorry, is a gore.
He's a gore, same director, different movie, But yeah, he
made many different weird things that I happen to enjoy.

Speaker 2 (01:44:50):
Fritz Cush I I kind of feel like when you
look down. His resume is a bit like an American
Bob Clock. You know, the guy made like a Christmas
Story but also made Black Christmas and All Time, also
made Death Dream and also made Porky's Like. He has
one of those resumes where you're just like, wait, what
I feel like? Fritz Kersh is a bit of the

(01:45:10):
American Bob Clark. What say you Gary your rebuttals?

Speaker 3 (01:45:14):
It's a great analogy actually, because yeah, Bob Clark made
made the pre Crutch of films, and this guy is
all over the spectrum. So if you're looking, if you're
looking for that kind of film, you might find it
in Fritz Kersh films. So there's that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
Check out old Fritzy Kersh and his resume. I mean,
enough of fucking Scorsese and department. Where's Kersh's documentary? Huh?
Come on?

Speaker 3 (01:45:35):
My Children of the Cord? It is it is you know,
you know Hackey in parts. But that opening seeing Children
of the Cord and the Diner is shot incredibly well,
with almost no blood at all.

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
Well it tells. It tells me something that someone came
to Fritz Kirsh and was like, all right, we're gonna
make a top gun style picture with a little bit
of the hard Way thrown in. But you've got to
use all these aerial sequences from Iron Eagle and Iron
Eagle too that we paid through the nose for. And
your actual shooting budget is going to be fifteen cents.

(01:46:10):
Oh and by the way, you have to cast Anthony,
Michael Hall, and Michael Pray. I feel like Kersh is
just like, yeah, I've got it, don't worry about it.
And sure enough, in Kersh's hands, a movie that could
otherwise be you know, a pretty a bit of a
drag to get through, turns into a joy. And just
he knows how to keep the momentum, the pace, the action,

(01:46:33):
the comedy, the story. He knows how to keep it running.

Speaker 3 (01:46:39):
Oh there's some other great meatheads of this too that
I have to mention, one of which is Mike Muslims.
But Michael Saint Gerard, which we don't know the snay
guy's name. He's the guy who looks like Elvis. Has
played Elvis in a couple of things, but is known
to play Link Larkin in the original John Waters version

(01:47:01):
of Hairspray.

Speaker 4 (01:47:02):
On screen in the movie with Ricky Lake Lyndon Ashby who.

Speaker 3 (01:47:08):
If you don't know his name, you've seen him probably
some fifty cent action movies, but he played Johnny Cage
and the World Combat film Johnny Cage. Yes, Brian Haley,
who if you look him up one time, you'll see
this meathead that you've seen in like twenty movies.

Speaker 2 (01:47:27):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:47:28):
A personal favorite of mine is Baby's Day Out and
hear me out about Baby's Day Out, about a baby
who escapes into the city, has some of the most
funniest physical comedy delivered by this guy and Joe Montana
and Joey Pants that it's way better deserves to be.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
J Hughes gone to a point where he's like, look,
I know I've already done home Alone and home Alone too,
but bear with me. What if it's home alone too
but a baby And everyone was just like, sure, John,
whatever you want, you know what I mean, like, we'll
give it to you. It's it's it's the mid nineties,
you know what I mean. You were last relevant ten
years ago, so we'll give it to you. It's so good.

Speaker 3 (01:48:10):
There's a scene that Baby's Day Out where you're you're
led to believe that Joe Montana is hiding this baby
under a blanket, and the baby gets ahold of a
zipple lighter and is letting Joe Montango's dick on fire.
And you know what, you're laughing just by his reactions
of the Baby's Day Out because you have to believe
that he's getting his dick caught on fire by this baby.

Speaker 4 (01:48:30):
You know, you have to.

Speaker 2 (01:48:32):
You have to believe it like that is when you
go to watch Baby's Day Out, you enter into a
contract as an audience member to fully believe that a
man's nuts are being lit on fire by a baby.

Speaker 3 (01:48:47):
And it's not just that nut shot. I'm pretty sure
this actor gets a nutshot in the movie. Now, as
as an adolescent, he was raised on America's funnies, so videos.
This this is before YouTube kids, when everything was fun
and reels and shit. You had to watch us on TV.
You know what, A care to whootball bat sometimes gonna
get hit the dick and you were gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:49:07):
Laugh at it.

Speaker 3 (01:49:07):
So the fact that these guys get hit the dick
of this movie so many times and a baby is
that is the culprit.

Speaker 4 (01:49:13):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:49:14):
It's the kind of warmth in my heart that that's
good sometimes, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
Yeah, yeah, it is. It is sad though. I feel
like that John Hughes got sucked into the sort of
kids world. I just I just feel like we needed
one or two more, uh, you know, Great Outdoors or
Uncle Buck or Planes, Trains and Automobiles. We needed just

(01:49:39):
a couple more.

Speaker 3 (01:49:40):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:49:40):
He kind of goes you know, teen kids stuff whatever.
Then he goes into you know, he slowly takes his
children characters a little older, with like some kind of
wonderful and she's having a baby, you know what I mean.
Then he's writing some adult stuff like Planes, trains and Automobiles,
Great Outdoors, which is sort of just a decent family comedy,

(01:50:02):
Uncle Buck again, National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation. Then he writes
Home Alone. And the only other thing that you could
call maybe like an older teen movie that's even approaching
adult work after that is Career Opportunities, which is valuable
for so many reasons as a movie, not sure, not

(01:50:26):
least of which. And I know everyone's going to be like,
right because of Jennifer Connolly's Connolly's and you're not wrong.
That is a reason.

Speaker 3 (01:50:35):
That's how Gary became a man, right there, that part
which she's right on the horse at the grocery store.

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's that's the thing that dreams
a man that her and Phoebe Kate's getting out of
a swimming pool in slow motion gave so many children
of the late eight it's early nineties, happy, happy memories.
But I think along with that, it gave the wonderful
and I think oft not mentioned enough. I wouldn't say

(01:51:01):
he's oft maligned, but he's oft not mentioned enough. The
wonderful Frank Whalley a leading role this man should have.
Like if I if there's an alternate universe I want
to live in, and I know I'm about to upset
everyone right now, I would want Frank Whalley to have
Matthew Brodowick's career.

Speaker 3 (01:51:21):
You know what. You put that analogy in there, and
I picture him and rolls it that he's been in
because at this age now, I think a character like
Peris Bugeler is in his character war games are just
like a protectious asshole.

Speaker 2 (01:51:36):
I hate him. I don't understand people liking Ferris Buella's
day Off because he's so annoying.

Speaker 3 (01:51:42):
And he didn't have the charisma to pull it off
of my opinion. Now, Frank Whaley, you know, as an actor,
is competent in most everything that I've seen.

Speaker 2 (01:51:51):
A bit Listen, you believe that this hapless target custodian
boob would would be equal to Jennifer Connolly's random hot
babe stuck in a supermarket at night character. You believe

(01:52:12):
that the two of them would would be perfectly attracted
to each other because of Whaley's innate affability.

Speaker 3 (01:52:22):
Yeah, I mean, I'm a fat irishman. Yeah, I can't
help these things, you know, But as far as me
being a decent guy, you know, all I have is
my charm. So much like Frank Whaley, you only miss,
you know, any shot that you don't take. So he
took that shot and he ran with it. And sometimes
Gary takes that shot too, where he's feeling a bit
drug and flirty. Sometimes it reels of it, sometimes it don't,

(01:52:46):
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:52:47):
But you know it's the sometimes when it does that
we live for. But yes, I forget now how we
got to career opportunities.

Speaker 3 (01:52:55):
However, back to this, John Hughes and I have to
add one this. He came out a year before Home Alone,
but he wrote the film Dutch and I would say
Dutch with Ed O'Neill and very young Ethan Embry who
was called Ethan Randall back in these days, I believe
is a much better holiday film than fucking Hubble will ever.

Speaker 2 (01:53:15):
Be Yes, and a big, big film for buddy of
the podcast and good friend of mine. It is the
wonderful Scott to me, the Toombs mice to general. He
is a big fan of the film Dutch, he really is,
and I must watch it because I think almost every
movie that Tombs has ever recommended to me has been

(01:53:36):
been a winner. He was a big cloak and dagup proponent.
And when I when I watched that, I was I
was en amid, charmed, swept off my feet with happiness
and thrills.

Speaker 3 (01:53:48):
See, that's one of those pelves the like people say,
and I get this, they watched a Masha Squad. They're older.
They don't appreciate as much as the guys that saw
while they were a kid. Now I saw cloaka Dagger
as an adult, and I appreciate the fluck out of
that movie. Yes, because because of what would Dicky Franedlin
it would it will And of course Tom Holland put

(01:54:09):
into the script. It's spectacular and and Dabas Coleman who
is Davis Coleman.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
Yes, yes, yes, indeed, what a wonderful movie. Anyway, back
to Into the Sun in the paride way, so, yes,
they get captured, hi jingson' shugh, they escape from prison,
there's some aerial Hoojama wants it and then everyone comes
down to earth. Friends at last, Uh no more antagonism,

(01:54:39):
and Parrey sweeps Deborah More off her feet. We don't
know if Anthony Michael Hall then immediately makes a beeline
for Melissas Moore's barracks, but we hope that's the case.
Let's talk about the performances. Uh, we've already said about
Anti Michael Hall handling the the the cock short, arrogant

(01:55:01):
Hollywood douche role perfectly, absolutely perfectly. How do we feel
about peay Gary and his uptight emmon.

Speaker 3 (01:55:12):
It's Pererie works really well in this movie because he's
that guy that you know, he hates his civilians. Obviously
he wants to fucking shit other fucking graves. So with
his fucking douchebag comes to base and he wants to
be a real pilot.

Speaker 4 (01:55:26):
You know, he puts them through the ringer.

Speaker 3 (01:55:28):
He makes me go do the the g tests, and
he makes me do fucking marine pushups where he has
to go up and then clap the come back down again.
He put them through all this ship. It's a great
it's a great fuck you moontage in this movie to
ress making him do stuff so you got this, you
know again, just just as cockture as as Anthony Michael

(01:55:51):
Hall is. He's just as cocksure as he is because
he knows this job is, he knows where he's bad,
what he does. Who is this a little fucker dude
to step on his toes and say, hey, I want
to be a pilot too, but that really I just
want to like it takes stuff that you say and
put it in my movie just to say, hey, don't

(01:56:12):
don't I saw more authentic. We we You're not authentic.
So I think he plays that that that hardened you
know guy, even even to to the end.

Speaker 2 (01:56:22):
But he was also like at the beginning of the movie,
he's a bit of a hot dog and and he causes, uh,
you know this this issue with the enemy planes and everything,
which is why he gets stuck with the ship duty
of looking after Anthony Michael Hall. Right, Oh yeah, what's
his school signing in? Is it shotgun?

Speaker 4 (01:56:41):
His his call is his shotgun? Yeah? I think so
his shotgun yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:56:46):
Which is so weird because shotgun, in the current parlance
of the times means like the guy who sits next
to the drive. So I'm like, is is he also
like and also ran like he's never quite but no,
he's like the hot He's like Maverick. This movie is
like if Tom Cruise is Maverick was suddenly confronted with

(01:57:12):
someone even more effortlessly charming than he is, you know
what I mean, And he went off with Kenny McGillis
for a night of you know, a quick ahej round
round the back of the barracks or whatever. If this
imagine that and to the point where Tom Cruise, instead

(01:57:32):
of being the hero of the story, was suddenly forced
to be the curmudgeonly keeper of the guy who's trying
to have it away with his lady. Paray does a
wonderful job. I think, Perey, I think what I think.
The way I think Paray plays it, you feel the
you don't feel like, oh, give Anthony Michael Hall and
break you miserable Baston. You actually empathize for Peay.

Speaker 3 (01:57:56):
I feel like, yeah, yeah, for sure, because he's did Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:58:02):
Sorry, No, he's not a dick to Michael Hole. I
mean he is once once Michael Hole tries to like
chat up his lady, but like, yes, he's he's up tight,
but he's not like he's not like rude or mean
to him.

Speaker 3 (01:58:15):
No, he has that whole idea that you know, nothing
in life was given to him, but everything, everything was
given to this movie star, and that that's just not
the way he's wired.

Speaker 4 (01:58:26):
He's wired differently.

Speaker 3 (01:58:28):
He doesn't relate to him and therefore he hates him. Right,
so he's gonna put through all his ship and you know,
you get he gets because he goes to the party
and he's all stucky there. He's even more pissed off
because our man's trying to fuck this lady.

Speaker 2 (01:58:45):
But towards the end, against practically homer erotic, they jump
into a plane to escape from the enemy prison to
find that it's a French plane with only one seat
in it, and Michael Hole and Perey have to like
double team on the seat.

Speaker 3 (01:59:01):
Right Yeah yeah yeah, uh ask to crotch for sure about.

Speaker 2 (01:59:05):
Doubling up ask to crotch the parae wole story. Uh,
and it's it's I mean, it's playing for laughs and
it's playing for excitement. But at the same time it
like I thought, Okay, the plane's going to take off
and then we're just going to see them land. But no,
there's all these high jinks that happened in the plane

(01:59:27):
with them still still sat butt.

Speaker 3 (01:59:29):
The ball yep, yep, yep. You're you're carpital with with
with U bigs are atically you're going to call themselves
on your tail and yeah, it's it's it's.

Speaker 2 (01:59:41):
Well, there was just a lot of moving around and
like he's like reaching back for a lever and he's
like that's not the lever, and I'm like, wait, what
is going on? This is this is it got all
a bit homo erotic.

Speaker 4 (01:59:53):
You're grabbing the rog stick boy.

Speaker 2 (01:59:55):
Yeah. Right, it was just it was all a bit
weird because I was like, wait, well, I'll accept that
Peray no longer hates him, and it's like, all right,
maybe the guy is worth my time. I don't accept
that Perey has fallen ahead of heels in love with
the guy.

Speaker 4 (02:00:11):
He had to put it.

Speaker 3 (02:00:12):
They had to put it in because it's full it's
full up and top gun. You know, all the mail
bill but the mail bonding and top Gun. Yeah, so
they had to throw a little bit of that in there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:00:22):
They were like, and Anthony Michael was like, all right,
I'll work out if you want to do like a
topless volleyball scene. And they're like, no, no, don't worry
about that. We're gonna stick the two of you in
a seat and you're gonna rub ass to crutch for
like three weeks of shooting.

Speaker 3 (02:00:40):
You're gonna you're gonna ride bitch in. It's a comfortable
set with our man Parree and hopefully, you know, don't
make it they're pregnant him.

Speaker 4 (02:00:49):
It'll be in the Parreae way then too.

Speaker 2 (02:00:51):
Yeah, exactly, No, it's it's yeah, I mean, listen, it was.
It was fine and it was fun. And actually, I
have to say, considering both guys trying to like out
mackismo each other throughout the whole movie, it's quite lovely
that the movie ends with the you know, parachuting out
of a plane while locked hip to hip. I just

(02:01:16):
think that's quite that's quite a wonderful way to end
it because it's literally taking it from you know, keep
the fuck away from me all the way to I
cannot get you any closer, Tom Slade. Can you imagine
that Peret goes back to the barracks and all the
men who were horn dogging on Slade earlier in the
movie come running over to him. So did you get
to second base?

Speaker 3 (02:01:35):
Like? Fuck bad? Jealous, bra jealous?

Speaker 2 (02:01:41):
Tell me what happened with Slade? Bro I want all
the gruesome details.

Speaker 3 (02:01:46):
Was he the erect or was it a half chubb?
I gotta know, I gotta know was he.

Speaker 2 (02:01:50):
Chumping out at all?

Speaker 3 (02:01:51):
Let me know.

Speaker 2 (02:01:53):
Pere was like, I gave him my best work action.

Speaker 3 (02:01:57):
Uh, I felt it deeper my flights, Yeah, deep in
the flight suit, the end of the sun story and
again it's.

Speaker 2 (02:02:05):
It makes it sound like you and me are like laughing.
I enjoyed this way. I want to keep reiterating this.
I really fucking enjoyed this movie. It was it was
so and I think maybe my enjoyment of this movie
came from the fact that I did not know what
to fully expect, so when I did get what I got,
it was sort of charming. Rather than going in thinking

(02:02:26):
I was getting the hard way and then being disappointed
that it quite wasn't the chemistry with as it was
with Woods and Michael Dave Fox. But actually they have
a bundle of chemistry and it's played somewhere between, like
you know, it's half stripes, half top gun and half
spies like us.

Speaker 3 (02:02:46):
Yeah, yeah, you're not wrong. You're not wrong at all
about that, because that's that's both sides of it.

Speaker 4 (02:02:53):
That's that's three hands.

Speaker 3 (02:02:54):
But we'll work with.

Speaker 2 (02:02:55):
It, you know, right, I mean, just imagine that this
is a film and half the only thing this was
missing was it was missing a Melissa Moore and Anthony
Michael Hall based late night pillow fight if you know
what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (02:03:13):
Yeah, the late light pillow fighter are just general basting,
you know. Back to gushers again.

Speaker 2 (02:03:21):
No, I don't know that we need to go full
full gush on this. I'm just saying that if you
have Melissa More in a movie and you and they're
on a naval barracks, and you don't have her and
some of her female officers running through the mess hoole
hitting each other with pillows in a in a halee

(02:03:41):
of delightful slow motion feathers then you have done wrong,
is what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (02:03:49):
Full on pajama party, you know, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:03:53):
I'm talking somewhere between the Animal House food fight and
the the Lingerie Bay antics of the Jim Mnosky classic
Card to Die.

Speaker 3 (02:04:04):
Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, So always sub bear breast they go,
and then not all bear breast.

Speaker 2 (02:04:12):
No, No, Gail Factory has decided at that point that
she's about to go legit and no longer wants to
go nips out.

Speaker 3 (02:04:18):
Because that's that's that is your animal house pillow fight,
you know.

Speaker 2 (02:04:23):
That's yeah, Oh, I forgot, there's actually a pillow fight
in Animal House, right. No, I was just referring to
the I was looking at it like the way the
food fight is filmed in the in the cafeteria. In
the Animal House. It would be like that, but in
the mess hall at the barracks, and they would be

(02:04:44):
running through pillow fighting each other, and they would.

Speaker 3 (02:04:47):
Just be like a.

Speaker 2 (02:04:50):
Wave of feathers cascading down in front of the camera
slow motion, you know what I mean, Like like like
it's raining feathers and in the background and it's just
delightful beauties bouncing around with pillows, smiling and laughing and
cackling till the dawn's early light.

Speaker 4 (02:05:08):
Like a like a job a joh woobah.

Speaker 3 (02:05:09):
He directed a sexy picture, Yeah, gating feathers coming down from.

Speaker 2 (02:05:14):
A like John directed a picture.

Speaker 4 (02:05:19):
A pillow fight scene.

Speaker 3 (02:05:21):
Yeah, but no.

Speaker 2 (02:05:23):
I thoroughly enjoyed the movie. I had a lot of
fun with it. It's you know, I'm not It's it's weird.
I'm not a big As much as I love action films,
I'm not a big like flight movie or submarine movie guy,
because I kind of feel like you're it's not the
same as a car chase, it's not the same as
a fistfight, like you're too detached from your enemy to

(02:05:44):
some extent. And also it's one of those where they
can show me the the gun view or the windscreen
view or whatever one you want to call it, and
you can show me planes doing different maneuvers, and you
can try and show me who is the enemy and
who's the whatever. I'm never gonna be able to follow
it because a gray plane with some green on the

(02:06:05):
outside and a gray plane with some blue on the outside,
it's not enough for me. I need the cowboy and
the black hat and the Cowboy and the White Hat.
You know what I'm saying. Oh, yeah, so I always
feel a bit detached, but in this.

Speaker 4 (02:06:19):
You do, right though.

Speaker 3 (02:06:20):
You know, as far as far as those films go
and right, a lot of are you know that Red
Play versus Blue Play Pie were filled twenty years before
this or thirty years before this to make it interesting.
But you know, you're going like the eighties, early nineties.
I think The Flight of the Intruder is a very
good example of this kind of film that will keep

(02:06:40):
you interested. Yeah, I already gold course that was mentioned,
Top Gun was mentioned.

Speaker 4 (02:06:46):
As far as sub marinoes.

Speaker 3 (02:06:48):
Hunt for October will keep you engaged just because the
performances are there though, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:06:53):
Right, well, that's that's a bit different. That's the Hunt
from Red October. Yes, I really like the one. No
one else liked it at all, but I really liked it.
It was the Gerard Butler Gary Oldman submarine picture that
came out recently and everyone was like, oh, it's terrible,
and I actually really liked it Gary Oldman Charad Butler

(02:07:19):
Hunter Killer from twenty eighteen. I actually really liked it.
It's funny. At the time, everyone was shitting on it,
but now it gets six point six out of ten,
So who's shitting on what?

Speaker 3 (02:07:29):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (02:07:29):
IMDb people have spoken.

Speaker 3 (02:07:31):
Oh, you live with the streaming area era where you know,
could do shit theaters and you know, pick a pace
on streaming because everybody's watching it.

Speaker 2 (02:07:39):
Then yeah, but I have to say I'm not again,
I'm not big on submarine pictures usually because it's a
lot of floating around and nonsense. But I liked it.
Jada Butler, Gary Oldman and common in Hunter Killer from
twenty eighteen. Check it out. We did cover it on

(02:07:59):
the movie Done. If you go back into the archives.

Speaker 3 (02:08:01):
It's like people that tell me that Josie the Pussycast
is a good movie, and I see, yeah, I it
was a good movie. It came out of the theaters
and I was sitting with like four people in the theater,
you know, so that the next question, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:08:12):
Oh yeah, no, listen, don't don't tell Gary that he
wasn't there when the good Ship came out. Gary has
been on top of the good Ship since the beginning.

Speaker 4 (02:08:21):
It's like Empire Records.

Speaker 3 (02:08:23):
When it became a hit, you know, everybody, I was like, yeah,
me by my friend Armado and like six other people
were in the theater to watch that fucking movie, and
you know we enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (02:08:33):
Then, so there's that, But then you have the opposite.
So then you have like me as a young kid
relentlessly renting bulls Eye. Like every time we would go
to the rental place, my friend John was like, you're
not gonna rent Bullseye again, and I'm like, I'm gonna rent.
I'm gonna watch me rent Bullseye, I would say to him,

(02:08:54):
and I would, I would rent Bullseye and and I
had so have this like I had almost forgotten about it.
I'd grown up because it never came out on like
DVD or Blu ray or anything like that. It still
languishes on VHS, which is where it belongs, and maybe laseris,
but I don't think it ever came out on DVD.

(02:09:15):
And I put it back in as an adult. I
found it on VHS and I was like, I have
such a warm memory of Bullseye as just being this
sort of knock about fast that's quite enjoyable. And then
I put it in as an adult and went, nah,
fuck this film. But Howard the Duck? How did the
Duck was a early adapter for me. Like, when I

(02:09:37):
first saw Howard the Duck, I was just like, how
the Duck's fucking great, And everyone who subsequently was like, no,
Howard the Duck isn't any good. I was like, what
are you all on drugs? Howard the Duck is fantastic.
How the Duck is like one of the best films
of the eighties, and they're like, no, how did the
Duck suck? And then suddenly we get to twenty twenty
four and how the Duck is like this cult fucking thing,
and everyone wishes that Marvel would just make another Howard

(02:10:00):
Duck movie. But they don't want to see, g I
Howard the Duck movie. They want a dwarf in a suit,
Howard the Duck movie. And I'm all on board with
dwarves and suits because I think that's fantastic and Howard
Duck is awesome. And get Leah Thompson back and let's
just go ahead and do it. And you know, I've
been calling I've been Team Duck boobs since I was
six years old.

Speaker 3 (02:10:21):
That's Gary's first girl friend, Beverly from Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (02:10:23):
Okay, yeah, oh my goodness. Leah Thompson in that movie,
and everyone's like, is it a bit weird and creepy
that she like tries to fuck the dark? And I'm like, no,
it's she rides around on bed in like the skimpiest
underwear known to humankind. No, that's that's the delight. That's
that scene should go on longer. I want to see
her arouse a small duck puppet, like I want there's

(02:10:48):
something in me that's like, who is getting hurt here?
Howard's into it, She's into it? Who does it harm?

Speaker 3 (02:10:55):
Right?

Speaker 2 (02:10:56):
Gary?

Speaker 3 (02:10:57):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean it's it's so that he has
duck parts of the movie, as told by his wall
where you find the duck condoms, So I guess you
know where there's grass on the Leah Thompson play ball.
I guess you know.

Speaker 2 (02:11:08):
Well this is But this is the thing. Gary is
in the opening sequence of How the Duck, Well, How
the Duck flies through various apartments on an armchair through
the walls, he flies past a female duck taking a bath,
And how do we know that she's a female duck
taking a bath? Big old duck titties.

Speaker 3 (02:11:29):
Not the first pair of duck movies you saw in
the movie that you saw I saw his Play Duck issue.

Speaker 2 (02:11:34):
You know you do see Play Duck. Yeah, so there
are This is a kid's movie. This is listen, this
is why we love the eighties. This is a kid's
movie that starts off with not one, but two sets
of big old duck titties. And so we're to assume
that if if ducks on the planet Duck or whatever

(02:11:55):
planet he comes from. I'm gonna lose points now because
I don't remember what the name of his planet is,
but anyways.

Speaker 4 (02:12:01):
I think they say what it is.

Speaker 2 (02:12:03):
Duck World or something. Anyway, if if he if if
lady ducks in Duck World have big old you know,
human style titties with nipples and everything, uh, then which
is not a duck thing at all in like duck

(02:12:24):
like ducks in in in reality on on planet Earth.
If they have, there's no reason that Howard doesn't. Isn't
packing duck sausage, you know what I mean? He has
a condom, so, like you like a condom suggests that
he has ah a lipstick, you know what I'm saying,
like like like Scooby Doo.

Speaker 4 (02:12:47):
Yeah, yeah that.

Speaker 3 (02:12:49):
I'm thinking about fucking Howard's fucking the unit you know, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:12:53):
Howard's a little fucking duck lipstick.

Speaker 3 (02:12:55):
Why not he might have read Rocket, It might be
a full book. Because there's one thing that they don't do.
They to keep them boxers on during that interrogation scene.

Speaker 2 (02:13:04):
Wait, you think it's full ball Like he has a
full like human.

Speaker 3 (02:13:10):
Duck titties and you know they're not there for feeding.
Obviously they've got his world in in Duckburg, as they
say in the duct tail steam side, that's where they're
you know, oh that that those are there for child rearing.

Speaker 4 (02:13:26):
Though those duck titties.

Speaker 3 (02:13:28):
Maybe fucking Howard's packet of kickstand I don't know. Run
you get the the column is kind of small, so
maybe like what he's got, you know, is more than ample,
but it might not.

Speaker 2 (02:13:41):
It's it's yeah, it's not the size carry, it's what
you do with it.

Speaker 3 (02:13:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:13:45):
So my wife has told me forever, uh so, uh yeah,
I don't know how we've we've managed to span uh
everything from nips to to full swing and and cox
on out when trying to talk about Into the Sun.

(02:14:06):
And I think the only reason that a movie like
Into the Sun is difficult to talk about is because
it just works like, there's not a lot to really
kind of you know, get into, because all I would
say is just go watch Into the Sun. It's just
a fun buddy comedy action thriller, you know, early nineties
Anthony Michael and Michael Pray movie. Like it's it's it's

(02:14:30):
just worth watching, right, Like it's it's difficult to kind
of break it down and any anymore.

Speaker 3 (02:14:35):
Right, I mean, it's it's it's it's it's it's top gun.
It's a top and rip off.

Speaker 4 (02:14:39):
I get that.

Speaker 3 (02:14:40):
But you know, do these these two characters, you know,
you like ice Ban and Maverick have genuine chemistry. Oh
this is a much smaller film obviously, but right, that's
what you're there for. You're there for the chemistry, the
two male leads, the other stuff, you know, with with
the with the horny serviceman and what the fuck Anthony
Michael Hall. That's just a bonus, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:15:05):
Yeah, that's just bonus, is what that is.

Speaker 3 (02:15:09):
But you you go in, you get you get, you know,
as they say in the UK, what's on the ten? Well,
you get to two actors who are you know, and
they're acting you know, they're they're they're you know because he,
Michael Pray didn't have much of a you know, a
pre acting your career before this.

Speaker 4 (02:15:30):
He kind of like jumped into this kind.

Speaker 3 (02:15:32):
Of stuff anti Michael Hall, who was you know, pretty
much a teen idol, you know, went into roles like
Johnny be good like this, like avercusor Hands, you know,
and said, you know what, I'm not really known now,
but I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm still working. So and
he and he.

Speaker 2 (02:15:48):
Works with cursh again. Oh no, no, he works with Okay,
this is weird. Peray is in a movie by written
by a guy who just reached out to me today
about the pyramid statement podcast called Renegades written by Tom
Jolliffe and Tom Jolliffe and I were literally talking to you.

(02:16:11):
I'm sorry, ignore me.

Speaker 3 (02:16:12):
Move On is related to other works. That's fine, you know, No.

Speaker 2 (02:16:18):
I'm just trying to scroll down and kind of see
where this falls in Parra's trajectory. So, you know, obviously,
Peray's first big thing is the greatest American hero in
the early eighties, followed by Eddie and the.

Speaker 3 (02:16:34):
Cruisers, the Streets of Fire would come and then you.

Speaker 2 (02:16:41):
Know, Philadelphia experiments. Yeah, but then it goes pretty straight
to video after that, right.

Speaker 3 (02:16:48):
Yeah, pretty much. I mean ATW. Maccahol, though he started
with stuff like I think he was in six Pack first.
If not, it's pretty goddam close his first role. It
goes on to be in sixteen Candles, you know, the
John Hughes stuff, Breakfast Club, in the Weird Signs, Weird Signs,

(02:17:09):
what else? Underrated, Focal, out of bounds. He's in the
people should check out if they could find it. But yeah,
he's this teen star who becomes an adult star. That's
not always an easy transition to make, but I think
he does it pretty flawlessly to say, Okay, you know,
I hit, I hit a god dam grospurt and I'm

(02:17:29):
not as syllable as it was was, So let me
try other things, you know, And he he kind of
went to that full board, which still like this movie,
I think, and I think it works pretty well because
he still has a charisma. He just looks grown now,
you know.

Speaker 2 (02:17:44):
Yeah, although I would say that by ninety four, outside
of the TV stuff he's doing, most of the rest
of the stuff he's doing is straight to video stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:17:54):
Well, definitely, but he's still working though, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:17:56):
Oh yeah, so it para.

Speaker 3 (02:17:57):
It's just there's still viable. There's a Bible assetstitute the films.

Speaker 2 (02:18:02):
Yeah, oh, don't get me started. We could do an
Into the Sun sequel tomorrow. You could have Michael Parret
and Anthony Michael Hoole. They now have three children and
they're living up in Vermont. Maybe they chuin Butte together
or something, and they're called up for Listen, if Tom

(02:18:24):
Cruise can make Mavericks seventy five years after he made
Top Gun, we could get an Into the Sun sequel
and Into the Sun sequel using footage from Maverick.

Speaker 3 (02:18:35):
They have to have beards, live on a farm, like
the opening to boot Dock Saints two.

Speaker 4 (02:18:42):
Never see boot Doock Saints two.

Speaker 3 (02:18:43):
You know they get called up again when they get
the borrower gets killed. I forget the plot this movie.
But when they're called up, they have full beards. They
live on a farm with dad, and then for some
reason they bury their guns in a crate out of
the land somewhere.

Speaker 2 (02:18:59):
Yeah, well that's what they do the Boondock Saints.

Speaker 3 (02:19:01):
Why would you just put the guns away? But now
these guys gotta have beards like the Saints or I'm
not here for it all the way like foo bushy beards,
you know, so.

Speaker 2 (02:19:10):
We're going full blown Paray and Anthony Michael Hall rocking
a beard similar to mine right now, my big gray
Santa beard. And they are churning butter on a Vermont
ranch and they occasionally sell their chern butter to like
Ben and Jerry's or something. That's what keeps them going.
They have three children, and maybe like the three children

(02:19:35):
get kidnapped by terrorists from like from like like, because
all of a sudden, Vermont borders like a dangerous country.
We're just gonna pretend that like the Middle East is
above Vermont or something, and the children get kidnapped, and
Paray and Anthony Hall have to come back and win

(02:19:56):
the day.

Speaker 3 (02:19:56):
I would watch that movie they do it, and they
do it horses rather than plains. You would go full
Western with this thing.

Speaker 2 (02:20:04):
Yeah, oh how about this? How about like some evil
French Canadians from Quebec come down and still parase kill children.

Speaker 3 (02:20:12):
See you think you fuckers are so polite? Huh still kids?
You know? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:20:18):
Yeah, how a boots you take my boot up your ass?

Speaker 4 (02:20:22):
And I forgot the reason.

Speaker 3 (02:20:25):
Why why do the Saints have beards because Billy Connley
had a beard, So why not you have matching beards
when you live on the farm, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:20:32):
Right exactly. I mean listen, if you are those guys
and you're with Belly Connolly at a certain point, like
we're being shown up here, we need to come with
our beard. Gave stress. Yes, and that's what it is.
Who wouldn't want that? Gary, That's what I want to know.
It's like when it's like, when you and I meet,

(02:20:53):
we must both be massively bearded. Otherwise there's no real reason.

Speaker 3 (02:20:59):
Oh yeah, for sure, I'll yeah to beb spectacular. Yeah,
we have to be We both have to be bidded
when we meet. Otherwise, otherwise the world is not right
on its axis. But I'll tell you what is right
is into the sun. Find it, check it out, enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (02:21:17):
It's we are three for three or four for four,
depending on where you start with the whole parae thing.

Speaker 3 (02:21:24):
Right, Yeah, I think so, Yeah, four for four in
the steal.

Speaker 2 (02:21:28):
Yeah, because I count. If you go to the Aftermovie
Diner website. Right now, I have built a parae way
page that I will continue to update with new parae podcasts.
So there is a one stop shop, just like Sleezy
Spain of Springtime Woods and Weller Cain and Keaton and
lots of other things that we've done over the years.

(02:21:48):
In the Parade way now has a page starting with
episode one, and I claim the official episode one is
the Cinema Beef Podcast Halloween Hangover episode where we got
into it all about Bad Moon. So I'm saying that there.
Then we did Dragon Fight, then we did World Gone Wild.
I'm saying this is our fourth Parade episode and uh,

(02:22:12):
you can't tell me any different because we made this
ship up.

Speaker 3 (02:22:15):
It's it's a winner, man, you know, just just like
John's gonna have his oona dependent podcast as as far
as like uh norther one like it, you know, if
you will, you know, oh.

Speaker 2 (02:22:27):
Yeah, no one else has ever done. And plenty of
directed video stuff and plenty of people have covered PM,
but no one has done an exclusive PM and same
with podcast, however, Gary, Uh, we have one last thing
to do, and that is what is going to be
the parade joint we do next time.

Speaker 3 (02:22:44):
So I was looking, I was looking at stuff, and
you know, yeah, I think terrible.

Speaker 4 (02:22:51):
I don't even know, Uh what's that?

Speaker 3 (02:22:54):
Sorry? The right Rod Hewitt directed The Dangerous Uh, starring
one Michael Perey and one Robert Dabby, John Savage, Joel
Gray as a character called Flea Elliott Gould and classic
Asian heavy Carrie hero Yuki Tagawa, who's been in tons

(02:23:20):
of people people. You require an Asian henchman. He has
been in Show Down, a Little Tokyo, the aforementioned World combat.
He's been in many, many things, but I always looked
him as an Asian heavy. And this plot to this
one is brother and sister ninja warriors get revenge for
their sister's death by killing the drug dealers. In order
killing the drug dealers in New Orleans, the police enlist

(02:23:44):
a biker warrior to solve the crime. The head drug
dealers theirs the pot even further by hiring Cajun warriors
to kill Mosey believes are responsible for the desmin dealers. See,
you have Asian warriors, you have Cajun warriors, you have
biker warriors. All with Therey and Robert Daby and tow

(02:24:07):
This might be very good too. You can find this
on Tube if you're looking to b or probably the
bottles of YouTube somewhere in Prime video I'm sure John
may have a BHS of this summer he's going to
look at but yeah, yeah, next time. That's it. That's
what we're doing. I think.

Speaker 2 (02:24:24):
On the Okay podcast, Gary has thrown down the gauntlet
and we are going to be watching The Dangerous from
nineteen ninety five, where he plays the character Cooled Random.

Speaker 3 (02:24:40):
Just ran.

Speaker 2 (02:24:41):
Yeah, Random Paray is what we're going to be watching. Uh,
it's he's co starring with Robert Dabby. There there are ninjas,
there are a Cajun Warriors whatever they are. They come
at you with shellfish back in the cafe. Hit you
around the head with a poe, boy says Cajun Warriors.

(02:25:05):
Look out for the Andwee sausage and spicy make you
it'll be if you will. Yeah, look out. They've got gumbo.

Speaker 4 (02:25:15):
Ay man, that gumbo is spicy.

Speaker 3 (02:25:17):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:25:18):
Yeah, they've got the Anduy sausage gumbo. They're coming at
us with it. Get that in your eyes and you
won't ever see again. Uh oh, this is gonna be fun.
Robert Danny, Michael Pray John Savage from nineteen ninety five,
directed by Rod Hewitt, who has directed exactly no films
you've ever seen. Uh. It's available now on foursome and

(02:25:39):
freeb as well as all the other places where free
movies lurk on the internet to b Plex places like that.
Go watch it. I'll be watching it and we will
be in the parade way once again. Over at the
Cinema Beef Podcast, Garry talk all about the Cinema Beef
Podcast and Pimp Your Shit.

Speaker 3 (02:25:57):
Oh you can find them on Leision podcast group. On
my show the Great setem syeops that there's it's kind
of you know the shows are there. Well think I'll
recommend as you go join spend two dollars go during
the Patreon because my friend, my lost friend, Johnny Krug,
somebody somewhere, this is like the blessing from the gods

(02:26:21):
has discovered all the Crew Renation episodes from somewhere. I
don't know what sources came from, but you can go
listen to Johnny Krug talk about horror films, what he
was in love with the genre and didn't again, my
friend Johnny was a very sad fellow. He very a
little low self worth, did himself in. If you need help,
please call somebody about this. This is his legacy in

(02:26:44):
my opinion. So if anything, go find the Butcher Shop.
But go finally your Patreon and listen to to Johnny
talk about horror films. This this is the more important
thing to me right now that you know somebody took
time to save these episodes and our boss at Legion, Kevin,
is putting them out for people to enjoy. But yeah,

(02:27:07):
last Call of Torchi's two drinking in commentaries and Cinema
Beef are all on the Butcher Shop bead. Go into
your podcast or look for it there. But yeah, you'll
find this show, the other in the parade Way episodes
on there, along with whatever else we come up with.
Iris is suppecially making an appearance again very soon. She

(02:27:29):
got very busy with work and her living grandchildren, but
she's gonna enjoin us for a show called al what's
the title of it, just southwest of Valca, just southwest
of Valcomania, where we're gonna do Texas Chainsaw Massacre in
nothing but Trouble. It's nice.

Speaker 2 (02:27:48):
And if we ever hear from Jamie again, or if
you ever have Jamie on your show again, I have
to guess.

Speaker 3 (02:27:53):
On that episode, I'm going to text her tomorrow. Yeah,
a lot of fun stuff happening at Sidney podcast I'm
hoping gets recorded due time, as well as a last
called Torches episode that's our are I'm pretty sure only
Walter Hill Podcast in existence.

Speaker 4 (02:28:11):
I've looked up these things too.

Speaker 3 (02:28:13):
Uh where our next episode is Undisputed, the boxing film
with Vinga Raims and Wesley Snipes, the prison boxing film
that which spawned, in my opinion, more successful sequels, started
to raise Scott Atkins as boyka you know, and uh
to compare that with we always do a Patriot episode,

(02:28:35):
which is the Charlie Band produced arena about a man
who fights monsters in a freaking fight arena. And you know,
it's a that that's a lot of fun. It's a
lot of fun. So all this stuff's happening, listen to
John Cross and stuff. Of course, I'm looking very much

(02:28:57):
forward to this PM entertainment thing and I'm gonna listen
to everything. I love. A lot of support, support your
your fellows. Probably that's what starving artist. But you know
somebody who's not, you know, driven by greed or Mark
Marrin or you know, pick your poison, but you know.

Speaker 2 (02:29:19):
The what what is Mark is Mark Maron? Oh you mean,
he's the representative of like the modern wave of podcasts
as opposed to us, the low tier guys. Yes, uh,
you know, do support us. We are starving artists. I
don't have a day job. I you know, I do
work for my wives company, but I don't have a
day job. So uh yeah, please support both Gary and

(02:29:42):
myself on Patreon. That would be super useful. Just a
dollar per show gets you all great content as well
as a few extras now and then.

Speaker 3 (02:29:56):
Uh so do that.

Speaker 2 (02:29:57):
That would be lovely. But thank you so much, Gary
for you had another wonderful parade Way podcast. There will
be many more of these to come, and this has
been a joy. My goodness. Think of all the topics
we've covered, from Gusher's to Howard the ducts, love swinging mancock.

Speaker 3 (02:30:15):
We love in a freaking candy. They've finished sing your mouths.
Come on now, people.

Speaker 2 (02:30:21):
Yeah, we even got into dark tides. That's how That's
how expansive this show was. Name me another podcast that
takes you on so many fun runs through the weird,
twisted corners of straight to VHS movies. You can't name it.
You can't name it because nothing is as expansive and
wonderful as this show. So thanks again Gary for being

(02:30:42):
on here. Everyone check out. Cinema Beef is part of
the Legion podcast feed, and we will be back soon
on Cinema Beef with the Dangerous.

Speaker 3 (02:30:55):
Starring.

Speaker 2 (02:30:56):
According to IMDb and the post movie poster, an incredible
air brushed Michael Parray and yet despite being the nasal
pop marked visage that he is and not airbrushed at
all Robert Davy, which is just bizarre. Pea looks like
an oil painting, and Davvy looks like they've taken an
up close, greasy photograph of his pock mark face.

Speaker 3 (02:31:19):
He does goddamn, oh my gosh. Yeah, thank you, thank
you sir for having me for using it. Bark Yobby
he in this. This is journey of one one our tour.
Michael Parray in a whole lot more fun stuff too,
you know.

Speaker 2 (02:31:38):
Yes, a whole lot more fun stuff. We have covered
the work of John Hughes, We've covered the work of
Michael Winner, We've covered so many thanks, Cannon Films, Perm
Entertainment Films. It's all good stuff and we will do
it all again, sir, Thank you so much, all the
best to you, speak soon and Dutch boy arsa padway.

Speaker 3 (02:32:06):
Spear every night and everything I don't man like sash.

Speaker 5 (02:32:13):
When I isn't anyway carry is shown gets a rather
parade way. Okay, it's a game that we have say
we don't look like face. This is how it stay.

Speaker 2 (02:32:37):
I don't know how many say so.

Speaker 3 (02:32:41):
I let the garry is.

Speaker 4 (02:32:44):
Gone, but let no

Speaker 2 (02:32:48):
There is a paradeway.

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