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silence your bowels, and rub twonearby dogs together for the one the
only John Cross. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
Hello, and welcome them to thethird episode of Two Middle Aged Men
watched nineteen zero Jim Belushi Movies withme as always my regular co host on
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these ventures down the River Gym.It is your friend of mine, Matt
Poier. How are you doing,sir, I'm great, I'm great.
How are you? I'm very good. I'm very good. Since we last
did this, which I don't knowwhen was that that feels like Edinburgh according
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to Skype when or Skyper or Ithink it was Skype when the last one
that you sent me the link,it's at September seventeenth. Does that sound
right? That's I guess that doessound about right? Yeah, I think
it was right between we did oneepisode, between my dad being here and
then my mum being here, right, yeah, because I've had a lot
of family visiting, uh and inthe interim I have started Matt my own
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video shop. Yeah, amazing.Yeah, Beacond Movie Vault. That's my
video shop. That's what I've started. It's in the town of New Milford
in Connecticut, northwestern Connecticut, andit's on the lower level of a shop
called the Hunt. It's called beeKind Movie Vault. And essentially we know
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the owner of the Hunt, soour good friend Gina Lacey shout out to
Gina Lacey as the owner of theHunt. And some months ago, because
it's been a rough work year,my job's really kind of kick my butt
a little this this year and notbeen the healthiest of places to be.
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And earlier in the year, mygood friend J Mayo or all the listeners
and watchers will know the name ofJ. Mayo, Lord J. Mayo,
as he is officially known as thename of Lord J. Mayo has
really drifted throughout the decades as asa kind of legendary cloaked figure. Anyway,
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I was hanging out with mister Mayoand telling him my work woes,
and he said, well, whatis it you want to do? And
I said, well, the thingis the thing that I really want to
do, the thing that I seeother people doing, and I'm like jealous
of but also is something that listen, it'll never fly because they just aren't
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video stores anymore. But really I'dlove to have my own video store.
And you know, because there arerecord stores and there are bookshops, and
you know, I have loved frequentingboth bookshops and record shops. My favorite
shop to go into is a movieshop, and they aren't really any movie
shops anymore. I mean there's theodd one like the Archive in Bridgeport,
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and a couple of others, youknow, Scarecrow Video in at in Seattle,
and you know all Bit DVD downin Asheville, North Carolina, all
of which are fantastic places, allof which I've been to and I admire
and I love. But they're notas prevalent as say record stores. Most
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even small towns in New England willhave record record shops of some kind.
So I just, you know,I was like, why aren't video shops
really a thing? I wish theywere a thing. My good friend Ben
Dunton, who runs Ben's Collector's Recordsin Guildford, to me, has the
dream life. He just you know, works all day in the shot while
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people come in. He listens tomusic, recommends music talks about music.
He's always happy, always smiling.Every time you walk in through the door,
it's all right, John May,are you doing? Like he remembers
you for decades. And I waslike, that's really what I want.
Like, what I want is myown little small business that I can build
from the ground up and in twentyfive years still be the guy who's like,
oh, hello, how are youdoing? Coming in? And you
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know, watch them nineties, therea Jim Belushi with me, you know,
because that's really predominantly what I hopeto have on the screen in my
ideal video shop would be just alot of a lot of Jimblue. She
but no, so I. Andthen so I was talking to my friend
Gino about it, and she said, well, why don't you take half
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the music booth downstairs? Because soshe has the shop. It's called The
Hunt. It's vintage antiques, thriftand whatever, but it's very curated.
It's not just like one of thosethrift markets where you go in and everything's
just dumped in a pile and there'ssomeone in the corner dying slowly of dysentery,
while you know, someone else eatsthe smelliest tacos known to human kind
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on a bean bag chair in thecorner. You know it's it's a proper
curted vintage store. And downstairs ison the lower level is broken out into
these separate booths, and she sellsone booth to a men's clothing and kind
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of chatsky kind of store called theGood Find who are great, And she
wents another one out to a friendof hers for all like kid hand me
down stuff. So it's all secondhand kid kids hand me down stuff.
And uh oh, our good friendRobert Long has joined and he says,
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middle aged, my ass who areboth younger than me. Yeh, belue
she was good in Thief. Well, Robert, I am technically middle aged.
I would have to live over eightyeight years old for this not to
be middle aged. Same, andI'm I'm close. I'm not going to
live to eighty eight years old,right, yeah, so yeah, I'm
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at the middle of yeah if ifif for me, yeah, same thing
eighty eight or you know, eightynine or whatever. Yeah, that would
so I'm in the middle of eightyforty four. Right, We're in the
middle, you know, And andI think, yes, you know,
I guess this would be considered oldthat people would think this would be considered
old age for the medieval period,but actually people lived in the eighties in
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the Middle Evil period. They werejust you know what, you're lucky depending
on it. If any children everstumble across this in like the year twenty
thirty or something, yeah, andI say that like it's a long way
away. It's not that long theway seven years. Yeah, yeah,
but you know, I'll live toprobably see twenty thirty. Anyway, some
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kids discover this in twenty thirty andthey're watching it, they probably think,
like forty four is the oldest ageon the planet. Robert, we would
be at the beginning of middle aged. You would probably be in the middle
of middle aged, if that makesany sense. Anyway. To finish up
the story, Gina said, well, she has these booths downstairs, and
one of the booths she has,which she runs, she had just thrown
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a bunch of vinyl in there becauseshe had gone to some state sales,
got hold of some vinyl and thoughtbad, just saw some violent there.
So she was like, why don'tyou take half the booth in the music
booth downstairs. So it's sort ofmusic and movies and it kind of makes
it this physical media play and youbring in new movies and do whatever you
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want on the left hand side andwhatever. So at the moment, I
have half a booth in the downstairsof on the lower level of a wonderful,
wonderful, wonderful shop on Bank Streetin New Milford. And if everyone
comes to it and buys all ofthe things that I have there, I
can afford to keep it open anothermonth and it'll be like that. And
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you know, I just got interviewedby the radio station today, the local
rock radio station Danbury and New Milfordarea, I ninety five w KRI or
whatever they are. So I justgot interviewed by them today. I got
interviewed by a local Connecticut newspaper aswell, which is going to go up
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next week. So you know,everyone's round, like the community matter are
pumped. The community are really behindthis. The chance that one day they'd
be able to walk into a storein New millf but to potentially find Cold
Fire, Wings Houser and PM Entertainment'sGoldfire has has all of the greater Danbury
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area a flutter. Let's just sayit. They are they are seriously excited
about I don't know why I havethe big black scream. We're not watching
the movie yet. That's like thepre the pre the pre amp or the
Yes, the opening. It's muchbetter than we'd be be full size because
who doesn't need to see what's happeninghere? Exactly right? They can't no
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expressions, and I'm just they justthink that I'm just sitting there blankly while
you're discussing all this stuff and Ihave nothing but yet right, No,
Matt is gurning and and playing tothe camera and promoting his other show on
his mug and our merch. Yes, John designed a lot of the merch
that didn't this one, but he'sdesigned merch on on our thread list side
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designed whatever that mugg is. Iwould have had lightning bolts and yeah,
you know, actually I think Igot the one that you one of the
patterns that you designed. Well,we're chatting here really quickly. Here's the
uh, this is the one thatyou designed. Yes, that's my like
eighty synth wave nod to the DTVcon I believe, I believe you go
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to the to the site. Ifyou go to the merch side, which
is DTV Connoisseur dot threadless dot com. I believe that one is called Vaporwave.
I think I called it Vaporwave actually, so yeah, quite quite possibly,
quite possibly, but no fantastic checkoutDirector Video Connoisseurs Merch. You can
also buy Aftermovie Diner Merch. Iwould strongly recommend I don't have my shirt
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on this time. I had itlast If you if you watched the previous
episode, you can see that Ihave Aftermovie Diner's shirt on. So I
went full Maxie this time. SoI've got Maxie shirt and a Marxie hat.
So of course I love it.That's that's that's sort of the when
I think of you, Matt,right, and it does happen from time
to time that you walked into thetransfer of my brain, I think of
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Moxie like and if I see andthe ultimate is also true. If I
see Moxie in a store, Ithink you, right, Yes, so
you're forever in twine, right,because I feel like you've probably wore the
Moxie hat over the coolest of usknowing each other on a podcast such as
this multiple times. Yeah, Iusually wear it for practicas. I can't
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really wear it here in Philly much. I usually wear my my Phillies hat
here in Philly, not because ifI wore something else people would give me
a hard time, but more like, yeah, if you wear the Phillies
stuff, you're a little bit moreyou know, you go to get your
cheese steak there, a little bitnicer, like they kind of see you
as more of like a local andso. But but I have to get
a newance. My Phillies had alsois disgusting. It's like all stained and
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everything. So this is also anicer looking hat as well. But I
feel like baseball cap should be stained. Yeah, yeah, Roberts says the
after moxie dynamic, which I dolike yeah, because that implies that we
just sat around drank a bunch ofmoxie and then was like, let's do
a podcast. It is It ishigh in caffeine. It does it is
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caffeine? Like what another does it? Does it make it? Does it
make it? It's far down it'stadice because we don't get it here in
Philly obviously in our local supermarket.Yeah that's you know, that's odd because
I got Yeah, So that's sothat's I guess, like the I don't
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know if New York has it.So it's like if I had, if
I really needed a Moxie fix.But I don't know that I necessarily me
know, I was visiting my family, but I didn't make it to Maine
because my mom was was ill.So I was that's okay, yes she's
fine, but if you don't wantme to catch it, so, you
know, so I stay with mysister and brother in law in New Hampshire,
I guess, I think. Butwe didn't go to a convenience store
either. We we went to abeer place and that was about it for
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Yeah, and all I think ourlocal supermarket has the uh fixed of the
moxie. Yeah. Yeah, it'san acquired taste. I will say,
like most most Mayners, when Imentioned that I'm I like that I like
my Moxie fixed when I'm up inMaine, they just gag. It's like
you drink boxy. Oh you know. So it's like so even like Mainners
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don't like it. I don't evenknow who likes moxie, to be quite
honest, but somehow it's it's existedfor years, right, like yes,
like it's always something you could buy. But I'm the one I know that
likes it I always get and Iand I I understand, but and this
happens a lot in like the chocolateworld. But I always get sad when
they discontinue something. Yes, likewhen they when they completely discontinue something,
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because you know, I understand.Everyone wants to be Pepsi or Coca Cola,
I understand, or Mountain Dew ifthat is your preference, although I
think is probably owned by either CocoPepsy, Pepsi. Yeah, yeah,
the the everyone wants to be that. But I like the idea that just
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you know, the tang or somethingwould still be going, uh you know,
uh, tab clear or something wouldstill be available. And the fact
that it isn't Listen, I live, I get up, I figure it
out, not sad around pick intomy beverage, wishing that tab Clear was
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the thing that but but I won'tsay that I'm happy about it not existing
anymore. They just they just gotrid of the Caramac in the UK,
and the Karamac was by fun,the Nestley Caramac. It was that.
I don't know if they have itover here, but there's there's obviously milk
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chocolate, right dark chocolate. Everyoneknows where they are with that white chocolate
that people have got used to thatthey're like, okay, white chocolate,
it's not really chocolate, but okay, it's you know the flavor of white
chocolate. In the UK, therewere a few not a lot, but
a few bars that went to whatthey called gold chocolate, which was essentially
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the same kind of consistency as whitechocolates, not really a chocolate but like
a paste or whatever. Right,but it had a caramel e tinge to
so you know how white chocolate justhas that white chocolate taste. You're like,
oh, yes, of white excellent. And I don't mind it.
I quite like it. I havethe I have the white chocolate Garli.
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That's fancy mat fancy yes, yes, San Francisco no. Uh. In
the UK they went gold chocolate andit was like a thing and people and
it was there were you know,you could get like a Fox's gold bar,
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uh, and you could get likea Whisper gold so you could get
existing confectionery, but now with goldchocolate. But then the caramac map is
bold. It when we're having nothingelse, it's just going to be a
gold chocolate chocolate bar. And it'snot even thick Matt, it's thick.
It's like it's like half the thickness. So you take take the caramel out
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of this, right, yes,and break it in half so it's just
like the front plate. But makeit gold chocolate, not white chocolate.
And that's what it is. Butbut I and I know nobody ate it.
But the balls of something like that, you know what I mean,
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for years to just be like we'remanufacturing this fat gold chocolate Banana's nonsense,
right, just keep doing it.There's something joyful in that matter, that
the fact that I know that wehave lost the caramac from the fair shores
of the United Kingdom. Do youknow again, Matt, I wake up.
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I live through the day ocase I'llfill a pack of sadness for the
for the death of the camera.It's it's I think that's how I would
feel if Moxie ever finally you know, went away, would you know?
The And and again it's not likeI'm keeping them in business because I only
ever have MAXI when I go upto New England, I get like two
like twenty ounce bottles of it atthe most, you know, And and
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it'll be something like my mom willbe like, oh, do you want
some mock I'll go to the atthe convenience stores you want to buy.
Okay, yeah, whenmember one timeshe did get me like the the twelve
pack at the grocery store. Butyou know the problem is if you if
you fly exactly like the big youknow, the problem is with the way
you know, airplane travel is nowadaysthat if I'm flying somewhere I have to
I can't bring it with me.Right, So I I never pack a
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bag when I visit my family becauseyou know, if they've got closing things
for me up like I keep stuffup there. You know, I know
I'm going to be there multiple times. So it's like I just have my
backpack and and so then you can'tbring soda is in your backpack because apparently
someone might make a bomb out ofmoxie or make a Diski's a bomb in
a can of moxie, Like Imean, and listen, I'm talking to
the TSA right now. I think, TSA, you can make a what's
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what's the word. You can makean exception. You can make an exception
for Maxie exception. I think thatyes, it could be called the Moxie
exception instead of one of those likeRobert Ludlum thrillers that would be like it's
or Clive Customer or something. It'sthe Moxie conundrum or whatever. This would
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be the Marxie exception. The Marxtieexception is if I'm bringing Marxie on a
plane, assume I'm one of thegood guys. Just assume I'm one of
the good guys, you know whatI mean, Because why, Matthew,
would a anyone with a negative feelingin their heart, why would they bring
Moxie. They wouldn't. They wouldn't. They would go for a lesser beverage,
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the aforementioned mountain dew for example,or yes, yeah, yeah yeah,
or something heinous, like the basedCoca cola something like that. That's
when you're like, okay, listen, if you're going to drink poison,
make sure that based because you know, yes, right, or one of
those like boutique sodas where like youlook on the back and it's like they
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tell you their story and why whyoh you know, my children were like
getting the runs from drinking coke,so I had to make a soda that
didn't have this stuff in it.So they don't, you know, now
now they can drink soda and theirteeth are still rotting out, but at
least they don't have the runs now, and that's why we want to make
the soda for you. And it'slike, what a great, beautiful story
and I'm paying five bucks a canfor this stuff and it's you know,
yes, yeah, And they're like, you know, when our grandmother first
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sat down to tell a former PresidentEisenhower about how to revolutionarize the drink industry,
we were budge an imagination in ourparents time. But now sixty years
later, we're making this shiite sodareselling it with the co Op on a
huge markup, and like all foodsor whatever, and so how do you
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get it so sweet if you're notusing sure? Like, well, you
know, we put heroin and it'smainly heroin, but natural heroin of course,
it's it's only on organic, certifiedorganic farms in Afghanistan. Yeah right,
they're like, well we put weput poppy seeds and the coca plant
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in the drink. And you're like, wait, isn't that Yeah, it's
all natural. It's natural opium andnatural you spedule like one of these bs
like documentary things that they show atthe airport like over like you know,
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like you know, oh, thisthis company is. You know that this
company is like the startup is makingrevolutionizes in the coke industry. And look
at how they're out and like they'rethey're growing you know, in organic farms
in Afghanistan and look at how they'reraising up these Afghanis farming farmers. You
know, they're growing poppies and youknow that. You know, it's like
and I'd like this whole wondrous thinglike this this you know reporter this like
you know, cutesy like pixie womanreporter out there like with her or her
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you know, wow, this isreally cool. Maybe like they're doing like
that they a sped up shot ofthem walking through the far you know,
and stuff like that. It's like, yeah, airport entertainment is like or
airp you know, it's like it'sthe worst stuff ever. And and it's
like if you don't you know,because all of the times it's like if
I'm eating or something, I don'twant to have my headphones in or whatever.
But it's like the amount of timethat I don't have those headphones in
and I'm not like watching something andI just happen to look up and see
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this airport entertainment stuff. I justlike, I think I die a little
bit more inside than I would knowinglike if Moxie was you know, it's
like it's like I think a littlepiece of my soul sort of just that
leaves my body and play Monsie ads. Yes, but look, there's there's
there's no excuse, Matt in thisday and age of everyone having a movie
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studio in that pocket, there isno excuse for the fact that ninety percent
of the things that are made anywhere, like the things made these days are
is shit. Yeah, it's tenis actually still as fantastic as it's always
been. Wow or no, eightpercent, and then there's two percent in
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the middle that's you know, oh, Apple TV has another series featuring an
actor you kind of liked in thenineties. What's the part doesn't matter.
I mean, it'll look beautiful,it'll look really beautiful, and Patricia Arquette
will be you know, possable init, but you know, nobody cares.
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But that's the two percent. Itlooks it's beautiful. You know that
the that the money went into itand that you know, and occasionally it'll
have an idea and you go ideagood. But in general it's sort of
you know, moving wallpaper in thebest way, in the best way,
No, no disrespect to it whatsoever. If you want to endorse us Apple
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where more than if you're looking forquality content, how this isn't on Apple
TV? I no, exactly.I think you could make us Matt one
of those you know, the screensaverson the TV on Apple TV, when
the screen savers come up, youcould just make bad eye, just like
float. Sorry, you go aheadto do well. One thing I was
gonna say, is it like Ithink, like The Morning Show. I've
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never seen The Morning Show but theway it's been described to me is exactly
the two percent. It's a twopercenter. I guess you could call it
right. It's in that two percentrange that you're talking about. But the
first series was pretty exceptional. Iactually liked I would actually notice the first
series into the eight percent. Thenext couple of series have been you know,
they no longer really have their causedu jure, so they're sort of
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and the world is so fragmented onabsolutely everything these days that there's not like
with the me too thing, itwas a nice like it was a nice
contained thing, right, they didn'thave to they didn't have to like play
out all this other stuff. Sincethen they you know, the first series
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is about Yes, it's the MattLauer story, but I mean it's it's
not as implicit as that. Butthen the second one they decided to do
COVID and Black Lives Matter and allthat kind of stuff. They start to
do real life stuff. And Iknow that the Matt Lauer thing was real
life, but it didn't play outthe way that Steve Carell's thing does in
the first series. So yeah,this is what I'm saying. The first
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series was inspired by a scenario ora cultural touchstone. The second two seasons
have been too rooted in exactly what'sgoing on, and I don't think that
was ever what the show was meantto be. It's still pretty well written.
And I have to say Aniston anduh, what's her name? The
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blonde Southerner I forget Reach Witherspoon.Amason and Witherspoon are like actually great in
it, really really good, andthe cart cast around them are pretty good
anyway. But no, there's this. What I mean is we're living in
the world with so many streaming channels, yes, and every single streaming channel
has to have its own content yea. And most of the streaming channels,
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because they're owned or you know,at least in part financed by the Big
four networks, most of their stuffjust looks like TV. Right, So
Poker Poker Face is great on PeakArke. It's like a really great series,
and it does look good for forlike a TV series, but no
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better or worse than you know,anything else at NBC shows right now,
Like it's just you know you're gettinga quality because it's but it's you also
know you're getting something that's just churnedout very quickly. Right with Apple TV,
what they seem to have decided witheverything other than I'm forgetting everything tonight,
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the farker thing with Jason Sada becausewhat's his name? Oh oh well,
right, I can't do apart fromTed Lasso, which you know looks
just like a decent TV show,right, It didn't need it didn't need
to look beautiful. It just neededto look like a decent TV show.
Uh. The other ones have lent, The other shows they've done have lent
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very very heavily on the cinematography andthe cinematography in these Apple shows is genuinely
like very very impressive, and thewritings for some isn't bad. But then
I feel like some of the othershows it is just like Ladi Da,
We've cherry picked an act to everyonekind of you know. It's like Matthew
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Modine starring in a somewhat sci fi, somewhat thriller kind of show that takes
place in the futur on a spacestation where someone's killing dwarves or something,
and it's you know, and that'sthat's just a show. And Matthew Modine
shows up and you go, wellwhatever, you know, and there's like
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the article about the show. It'slike either in GQ or Vanity Fair or
something where you have the picture ofMatthew Modin with the glasses and the white
five o'clock shadow and the crow's feetand all that like really accentuated to show
how old he is, and it'slike, you know why you need to
be interested in Matthew Modine again,you know, And it's like the whole
thing, it's like this whole likemillennial exactly right exactly, and it's like
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just him sitting there in the whitebackground with his like old man face.
They can look even older than hereally is, but like really leaning into
it and just like you know,so Matt as we've talked about resurrecting people
from the nineties. Should Belushi doan Apple TV show? That's that's yeah.
I think he would be great onthe Morning show. I'm trying to
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think where he would be in theMorning Show. You know what he would
be great is if they had aRon DeSantis type character. And because because
Ron de Satas is actually my age. You know, we're talking about me
being middle aged or not, RondaSantis is my age, and he looks
like he's ten years old. Helooks like he's you know, Belushi would
play a good run to Santa's.Not to say not to cast dis versions
on Blue Shi, but I thinkhe would. He would bring the requisite
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goofyis to it, but like ina way that's like a goofyenis that's not
like like like like that he wouldn'tseem like he's in on the joke,
even though he isn't on the joke, but he he could play it in
a way that he would be great. Blue She would be like a great
slimeball middle tier politician, right right, like maybe maybe like the vice like
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the vice president pick or something likeright right, not not quite like one
of the four runners. Although actuallyif you look at they had it on
the silent in the body the othernight when I was there, I was
just like and I was just likethese, I mean these like I know,
I know, just where did theyof all this bag of wankers together
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from? Anyway? TV though itcould tell him. It's like like like
like you think like that would besomething that would be like streaming only,
like you can only see this onnewsbacks or something like why would MSNBC like
waste time? Like I'm sure wewould rather watch like Rachel Maddow, you
know, well, because they've gotto be seen to be hard hitting,
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they've got to be exactly be upto the minute, the finger on the
pulse of the zeitgeist and all that, you know, the the the the
the thing. With Belushi, Yeah, Belushi would play like a sleazy middle
tier guy who's probably got like acouple of scandals, yeah yeah, but
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also endears himself to the populace becausehe's quite a fan of slurpiece from seven
eleven or something like they come outand he's like the slurpy Senator and he
comes out from seven to eleven thirtytwo ounce golf and the thick Chicago accent
that he just like really plays uplike John Goodman did on Roseanne, Like
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he just really is just you know. Yeah. So people who so,
yes, we're definitely ready for ablushy renaissance that has to happen. People
who saw the little preamble that itad at eight point thirty when I came
on to tell everyone that the showwas coming on, will have seen this
already, but I wanted to showMatt this so far, these are my
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three blushy vhs that I own.I have of course Royce Riyce. Yes,
Beautiful is a classic which we willbe watching at some point. Have
Red Heat, Oh another beautiful Yeah, and look at that like Swarzenegger black
and silver. Yeah, blushy,just black on white and smoking a cigarette
of course, but this coffee.Yeah. And then you know about this
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one recently purchased traces of Red Matt. This is a I see VHS tape.
There are collectors Matt collectors. Theyhave all of the well known like
rare you know, I spin onyour grave with the Lentica color cover or
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whatever whatever, the hologrammatic version ofFaces of Death eight. They have all
that. But do you know whatthey do? You know their holy grail,
Matt. It's traces of red onvhs. And do you know who
has it? Matt? I haveit. You've got it, You've got
it. But I won't to pointthis out. Is its st start the
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bidding now, I'll start the biddingof five dollars if anyone pays me more
than five dollars. Uh, everyonefight for twister red. But I want
to point this out. The redand black of all of all the Blushi's,
which of course is the color ofthe Albanian flag. Matt, the
black bird against the red background.So I wonder, with his Albanian heritage,
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where the blue she isn't surreptitiously talkingback to his kinsman with this?
What is it a subtle hint tohis motherland? Yeah? I think there's
some others that also, So Canine, I don't think does R. I
think Canaine has blue script, butI think made Men also follows the red
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and black. It's more kind oforange too, because I think it's got
like the explosions of the background something. But I think that one kind of
follows that pattern. Yeah, soI think you're right, Matt. And
I was also thinking the other daybecause you know how these like Waxwork Records
and Mondo Records and stuff are reissuingsoundtracks or issuing for the first time in
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many cases soundtracks of you know,very very very cult horror films and things.
And I was racking my head,and I was like, which Blue
Shie movie, Like if Waxwork Recordswas going to be like, we're putting
out the ultimatel She soundtrack, Ithink it's gotta be K nine because you've
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got that old do do you knowthat that like you know, but you've
also got the you've got that You'vegot I feel good when he runs out
of the car having had sex withthe poodle. I mean, it's got
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it's got like a what I'm justsaying, it's got like a classic nineties
action soundtrack with a little bit ofgoof in there, with a little bit
of the next time when people watchthe movie, that's what they're going to
think of. They're going to thinkof some good for the maple leaves hat
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on the internet. Uh, Okay, So before we get down to this
week's movie, we have one questionfrom Robert Long nineteen sixty six TV Batman.
In the chat, he says,if Jimble were to be remade,
so if Jim Belushi were to bein a remake of a Don Dola film.
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And it's interesting that he says thatbecause I'm wearing my Nola Physical Media
T shirt. So these are allthe Don Dola films I own, Matt
on all the formats. Wow,you got the shirt. That's amazing,
I got it on a shirt.So which movie would Jim Belushi be in
and what character would he play?Well, this is tough because I really
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think that Don Dola films, foranyone who's seen them, they are expertly
casted as it is. And sothe idea that I would lose a Richard
Ruxton, or lose a George Stover, or lose a Tom Griffith in favor
of a Belushie, I would ratherin addition to Brak, you know what
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I mean. So I would ratherstover Ruxton, all those Ruckston I think
he's dead, and Griffith's past andFrither's past, in fact, they really
think it's only George Over, LeannaJamish, and our friend Robert Long.
Maybe Joe Ripple as well, thoughhe has left movies behind to follow a
very worthwhile charitable life. Good forhim, good for the Ripster. But
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no. So let's say we're remakinga Dolar movie and none of the original
caster in it like that, justit's just no, no Dolar guys,
and it's just all remake all thetime. Then you know, there are
two roles that I think scream outto me. One. I you know,
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Belushi, the more comedy side ofBelushi, could play the infamous Mayor
but Wicker from Alien Factor and NightBeast, the sleazy mayor with his Mary
Jane sidekick, often in a pleasingswim suit. So he could play him
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the kind of sleazy mayor who's alwayshaving like swimming pool parties and things and
telling people that they can't hunt thealien too loudly because it'll deplete funding for
the out of town funfair or whateverit is trying to build. You know,
I think he would be great atthat. But a more serious,
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aggressive Belushi, I feel like hecould probably do the role that I feel
was George Stover's crowing achievement which isCharlie Rizzo in Blood Massacre. I feel
like Belushi could probably do Blood Massacrepretty well. Yeah, I feel like
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I have kind of embarrasstery I havenot seen. I'm looking at the Don
Dolar his IMDb bio and I haven'tseen any of the films that he's directed.
Then I did. I did notdo my job all those years,
Matt covering Don Dola's work on thepodcast. I was patizing about him singing
his praises. Matt, I willgive you multiple links where you can get
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Dolar stuff. Yes, what lookslike it looks like on Plex. Well,
Night Beast is known by Troma,so wherever Trauma is like filtering it
stuff, Yeah, used to bethere, I believe some of the others.
I don't know if Greg Dolar stillhas his because they've started to be
released on Blu Ray, so youmight have had to take it down.
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But Greg Dolar Don's Sun used tohave a YouTube channel that had them all
on there, so you could watchthem on there. But I would strongly
suggest like picking up Alien Factors onBlue Ray. Now Beend is on Blue
Ray, now Night Beasts on BluRay. Blood Master is but only as
an Easter egg on the Fiend BluRay, so actually has two movies the
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time. What movies are not outyet on Blu ray, which is all
the ones that he made with JoeRipple and after his hiatus, because I
would the thing I would track downand it's harder and harder to find because
Trauma owns it, but they've notreissued. It is a documentary about Don
Dola, Blood, Boobs and Beastand in fact, if you ever come
up here, screen it for youbecause it's it's a fantastic documentary and so
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inspiring to like indie filmmakers and things. Yeah, but yes, I strongly
recommend. Yeah, a lot ofhis stuff looks like it's on two B
Plex, the you know, theusual suspects. So yeah, I definitely
could could could kind of make themhappen. Yeah, I've got to embarrass
him seeming like he also, Imean, it's not like these are that
obscure in the sense like you goon this on on IMDb and you know,
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like I looked up Alien Factor,you know, I think it had
like thirty eight critic reviews, whichI'm used to, you know, a
PM flick with a with you knowWeiggs Houser, that might be just you
know me and you know tie fromConforts and Bulletproof or something like that.
That's like, you know, it'slike three, three or four critic reviews
in there, so so to seelike thirty eight, like that's usually a
good number for something that's a littlebit more more obscure. Yeah, and
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look, it's very homegrown. Thefirst handful of shot on sixteen mil and
then the second group of movies areall shot on MiniDV, so it's all
homegrown stuff. But I think thatfor homegrown stuff and with limited to no
budget and with the local actors,I think it's some of the most entertaining
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best made movies of that kind.And I would strongly recommend you checking them
out anyway so that we get tosee something of the crazy action Belushi,
which I think will lead nicely intohim parlaying the role of Charlie Rizzo in
the Blood Masker remake coming soon fromthe Reboo did O Ryan Pictures. We
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let's get on with the wonderful Retroactive, which is tonight's movie. It's available
on YouTube, so anyone interested youcan watch on YouTube. We have five
people watching right now, Matt,that's the most we've ever had watching live.
It's exciting. So hello to thefive. Please think with us.
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We're about to start the movie.We've been having a fantastic conversation about Jim
Belushi and about Moxie, and aboutDon Dola and about just all sorts of
things. So when you're done withthis episode, go back and watch the
first thirty minutes, because boy,Matt, was that packed for some true
gold? Am I right? Itwas? Was? It was it Carmack
or the gold character, the girl? The boy was that filled with gold.
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And the funny thing is is there'sthere's a great saying that Steve Coogan
in one of his very early comedicthings, Paul and Pauline Calf where he
played brother and sister, had thesame where he would be like live's a
book note in every sorry, inevery boocket of shite, there might be
a sliver of gold. It mightjust be the wrapper off of Karamac,
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but it's there. So whenever Ithink of Karamas, I always think of
this idea of a bucket of shitewith a little bit of gold in it
and someone getting really excited, andthen no, it's just the wrapper off
a character. But no, that'swe've had true gold caramac Gold. But
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now we're going to let the recedinghairline from Chicago. Uh, the Albanian,
the Gara Fisionado, the man whohas no business singing, playing dancing,
or anything near the blues, ladiesand gems. It's Jim Belushi in
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recroactive. Start this off, Matt. Let's see speaking. This isn't Orion.
Look, oh, but it's thelater Orion logo where they got a
bit fancy with it. That's notbecause you on the logo. What the
(42:59):
hell? Man? They went ina logo and a blushy sci fi thriller.
Right, It's like, wait aminute, who is it who financed
the Lushi picture and spent all thatfucking money on the logo? Well,
that's it. It was Brad Creevoyand Steve Stabler. Yeah he was not
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stable. Yeah he was Louis Mornaud. So what would we know Louis Morneaud
from Matt. Well, that's agood question because it sounds sounds familiar.
Let's take a look here. Thatdoes sound very familiar. Beautiful to see
Belushi's name over this glorious sunset footageon Sunrise Shannon Worry, come on now,
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Worry is in this movie. AndFrank Whaley, who, if anyone,
deserves a bigger career in Frank WayleyBoys. He paid his dues.
So I was wondering where I recognizedthe name Louis Renaud from. He directed
Soldier Boys with a Z, whichwas yes, Michael Dudkov. His his
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second unit director on that was actuallyDarren Aronofsky, So yeah, yeh,
Darren Aronofsky did second unit on anot just a dude movie, Soldier Boys,
like what they Yes, yeah,whatever parties he goes, it's Soldier
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Boys, you know, but witha Z. With a Z dirty doesn't
but with teenagers that were all playedby twenty somethings, yeah, or thirty
somethings and Kiss of Jackline Obrador.Yeah. Oh and yeah this is the
nineties straight to DVD. Yeah,cost if ever I've seen one. I
mean, this was in so manyof these types of movies, right,
(45:00):
I wonder if this movie passes thethe Roger Ebert test. So the Roger
Ebert rule, right that any moviethat has M. M. A.
Walsh or Harry Dean Stanton has tobe a good movie. I wonder if
you watched this and he said,okay, uh, you know he was.
In fact, what I like tothink of is that his wife played
in this movie on his deathbed.That's what. Yeah, your your you
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know your rule doesn't work it does? You know? Your rule wasn't Your
role is fucked. But you're you'rea pool. You're a shadow of your
former self. And as you canplainly see the subject now, is that
Brad from a from pulp fiction?It is Frank Way. Yeah, first
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eleven attempts at this experiment proved onprobably like bigger scroll, it's probably career
opportunities with Jennifer Bright. That's right. Morning mis tape provide proof that I
have been able to briefly reverse theflow of time. Whatever subject passes through
this machine will have total recollection ofall that has happened. I, however,
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will have no memory of these events. Are we following these rules?
They're laying down their rules hard andfast about time travel there, Matt right,
right, So he'll have no memory, but everyone else will remember that
they went back in time. Isthat is that what we've been called?
I guess so, yeah, tenminutes ready, graphics, look at these
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graphics. This is what you camehere for, Matt, high end blue
sheene greatness. That was being arap with lightning. Are we sure Aronofsky
didn't shoot this as well? LouisMoro's yeah, he's bringing up this young
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protege, Darren Aronofsky's see this,this is your You know I could use
this in Black Swan, but actuallyno, I won't use this in Black
Swan. Darn Darren, come here, come here. If you spin the
camera around really fast, look atthe effect. Yeah great, Louis,
(47:12):
can we just shoot this fucking blushypicture and I'm gonna go home. It's
like every of yeah, every everyuh so so interesting about the animent Walsh
rules that I just saw on IMDV. It wasn't this film that caused him
to uh to abandon the rules.Actually, Wild Wild West with the Will
Smith movie that well, that isjust foolish when this and Sundown a vampire
(47:38):
and retreat exists to blame World WildWest, that's yeah, that's bullheardy.
But then, Matt, I don'tknow if you feel this way. Ebat
was always always always wrong, Likehe was always wrong. There isn't a
movie critic that has been on thewronger side of history than Roger Ebert.
(48:00):
Yeah, I mean he was goodwith Martin Scorsese. He seemed like he
could get Martin Scorsese right. Butthen it was like, you know,
after Martin Scorsese, it was almostlike his antenna was just all all lot.
I mean, there were some movieshe was good, like he liked
uh, My Dinner with Andre Soso I guess that's the thing, because
he didn't like Three Amigos or anythingJohn Confins made off The Halloween. Yes,
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that's a good that's a good point. Yeah. Yeah, he thinks
The Fog is a bad movie,right, right, that's a good point.
Yeah, he's an idiot, probably, Yeah, he probably didn't even
watch Don douglas film. Right,But this movie, right, this movie
here doesn't break his rule. Sohe thought this was a good movie by
virtue of the fact that it hadm. M At walshon. Oh he
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did, right, because this moviecame out before Wild Wild West, so
it was Wild Wild West that brokehis rule. So he thinks this is
a good movie just by virtue ofmment Walsh in it. So I guess
we'll have to see what he doeswell. That's a good point to it.
It's my had have been screened forcritics. That's a good point.
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By the way, we just totallytalked over the plot, okay, because
I think what he showed us atthe beginning is really inportant time travel in
this movie. Okay, we're gonnawe're gonna be confused the whole time.
I mean, I could we windit? Yeah? Can we wind it?
We say in the in the inthe synopsis on IMDb, does it
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tell us there? No, Okay, I'm sure we'll figure it out.
Yeah, So what is it?It's the person who goes back in time
doesn't remember, or the person whosets the time travel device doesn't remember.
Yeah, that's what I don't remember, right, Okay, So now he's
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gathering up the pieces for his timetravel device and I do know. Yeah,
Oh, this isn't even him.This is somebody else. This is
Belushi. Belushi's coming out of thecar, right, yeah, yeah,
she is Shinn and worry of many. It's funny he did two erotic thrillers
(50:17):
with actresses who generally don't do eroticthrillers, and I can pay for these,
don't they? And then he doesa sci fi film with an erotic
thriller actress. All right, money, Frank, where's my money? Now?
How the hell am I supposed togive you money? I gotta go
get it. She's doing a moneyyeah, come on, it was high
(50:42):
school. It was drunk. Leaveme alone about that, right. I
need my money. I'm gonna makeyou riches ship four foot up of bulls
ass. Now, come on,man, what are you doing to me?
All bulls? I need my money. I know. I feel like
Doctor Phil must have seen this movieand said, this is this is what
(51:06):
my TV person is going to bewhen I become a famous psychiatrist on TV.
Now, Doctor Phil, Yes,if he was willing to go bold,
well, just put the bald capon him. It should be like
a really cheap bold cap as well, like another good one the cheap mustache.
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Negotiations fail, he still got Chicagoin there, right, Yeah,
he's He's gonna make sure he's gotsome Chicago love of backstory here, Matt
love so so so she failed asa negotiator. She wants to go back
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in time and fix this. Whoa, Yeah, that's the problem with those
Christ's little barons. They drift intothe other lane. A lot. They
were known for that. Yet hesaid, I be paying attention. That's
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the problem when you're having a lengthyand detailed flashback while driving Chryst Baron Exactly,
that's a that's a confluencer events,Matt that the world was never mentioned.
No, exactly. Yeah, LouisMoore, no X one. He
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gets in on that scene really reallyjust really drive home the fact that she's
angry with herself for crashing into thatthing. Extra Yeah, in the eighties
and nineties, Any any youngsters watchingthis who don't understand it? In the
eighties and nineties cause smoked and evenexploded quite frequently. Yeah, it was
(53:00):
just a coma occurrence. Yeah,that's PM, right, PM, It's
just yeah, any kind of carchase, those police cars in a car
chase, like they could just toucha concrete embankment and they would explode and
go flying over it. I thinkmy favorite one is the boat explosion in
Guardian Angel. Explosions many many times, but the boat explosion where it comes
(53:23):
in very very slowly and barely brushesthe rock and then immediately I love that.
Yes, yeah, is that theonly Rothbrock PM flick I think it
is, Yes, Yeah, againcriminal oversight. Yes, yeah, so
(53:44):
I'm trying to eat Harabo and therapper is very noisy. Yeah whatever nobody
can right, No, No,this is two middle aged men watching nineties
eroge in Belushi. I think ifwe munching on Haribo or anything like that,
I think, yeah, out Blue. She can't even bother to have
his hair brushed. It's like,click, your buddy of mine's got to
(54:05):
trucks home. What is that facialmaking blues? I'm not not understanding it
very much, although I have tosay, if I want to see Blue
she play any kind of role,it's a demented hill yes. Wait,
rockabilly sent and matching sideburns. Mom, chops. They're driving around in Belue.
(54:37):
She's Giant gold Penis, which isalso the name of my high school.
Is that right, Blue, She'sGiant Gold Penis now Talent show coffee.
(55:00):
And there's this woman him sometimes orsomething, and she says she goes
like this. She says, Frankhas a good looking belt buck And I
don't know. This just popped inmy head. Don't asked me half.
I just said to her, Guesswhat I said. Guess what I said
(55:21):
to her? Somebody please just guesswhat I said. I don't know,
Frank, what you said. Ilike this better when it was done in
Vegas. Your forehead. She's tryingto laugh. She liked it. She
liked it. She liked it,she liked it. She's a fan of
(55:43):
that crazy yeah, she said,one would admit it. But she's smar
you don't want to experience my razor. I'm gonna quickly you grab a beg,
which might be okay, all right, sounds good. You know if
you missed anything. That country musicnot really what I suppose. It's one
of the reasons I left Texas inthe first places, made in America for
(56:05):
Americans. You're not on American now, are you. No? You might
say that dealing with Americans is whatI'm trained to do. Touch what happened
that? He said? He said, you don't what you don't like Americans
do? Or she's like, actually, dealing with Americans is what I'm trained
to do. You. Yeah,she's trained to deal with them, all
(56:25):
right, Matthew, extensively trained,trained in the Looreal school of law.
What I do, if you couldgo back and change your life, it
sounds like a bunch of bullshit tome. You don't mind the saying I
don't mind the same like you playingTazan and Eugene. Yep, that's times
(56:50):
with it. Yeah, well it'sbut bad joke police, bad accent police
too. I believe I think it'sa Southern accent. Again, you sell
an accent while yes, I believeI have all right, you need to
go make another Knine movie. Leavethis set right now and go make another
(57:13):
Knine right where you are. Ididn't ask you to get out of the
car. That's good point stretching mylegs. No crime in that is there.
I want to see your license andregistration. Yes, sir, you
got to tell me one thing first. That is, what the hell did
(57:34):
I do wrong? You're doing seventyeight miles an hour and fifty five miles
only what the hell you were doingwrong? Come on, really, I
can assure you, officer, butthat would be highly unusual for me because
I am like this with just giveme your license and registration. What was
that? It was like a scissormotion. I'm like this for the law.
(57:58):
I'm like that's with the law.It means he keeps his legs closed.
For police, officer, you gottraveling with you there. Well,
you're not going to believe this,but it's two very attractive blood women,
even though I look like a bartenderin the saloon at the end of the
(58:19):
world, traveling forgeous blonde women.A problem there. That's the kind of
thing that, like on the TrueCrime like I D show thing that my
parents would always watch. They'd belike, this creepy guy with two women,
you know, and the police officerit sounded suspicious, but he decided
(58:39):
to let them go. You know, looking back on it, I don't
know how a guy like that wouldhave gotten too beautiful woman. But I've
seen crazier you know. Yeah,Okay, I'll say this for the movie.
(59:00):
It's artistically filmed. Yes, thiscould do with a Criterion hold on
old Criterion. Criterion suddenly started todo cult movies. Yeah, especially like
Blue Shy if they had the wholeBlue Shy thing, you know, if
Criterion just dialed right into the bolutioninessof it all. Yeah, yeah,
(59:23):
well the Canine like a Canine threeDVD set. Oh yeah, yeah,
now you're to well I told youso, I'm just going right up for
seven Okay. By that, thereyou go it still getting a ticket that's
(59:45):
like in Maine, if you getlike north of Bangor or actually the north
of Umane, it's seventy five milesan hour, but there's so few cars
that it's just like there's no reasonnot to do one hundred. And you
know, when you get off thehighway, you're just so velocitized. Like
I know, my buddy, wegot off the highway going to Hike and
we're going fifty and it felt liketen, you know, But but nobody's
(01:00:07):
pulling you over for doing one hundred, you know, because you just keep
you Yeah, that's a good idea. It's actually a horrible idea. Will
rarely damage the on the side ofthat vintage car, but yeah, exactly,
(01:00:27):
Blush is the kind of guy thatwould damage cars like that out of
reason. Everyone in this movie drivesa yeah, wow, Okay, that
was like me yesterday walking to thesidewalk here in Philly and the dude was
on a dirt bike and just blazingpast me. Because in a metropolitan area,
oh yeah, we could be allowedto be able to flee grown man.
(01:01:02):
And really, I'm sure I couldfind it somewhere in a subway station
or something like that. I couldfind a pile of pieces. I can
just go and just yeah, yeah, launch in his face. You wanted
me to say something, you know, the first thing that comes out of
your mouth, some kind of criticismmeans out, it's out of it.
Now shut up, woman, Welldamn women. Yeah, I believe with
(01:01:27):
them. You can't blow their headsoff. Wow, Wow, some misogynistic
bullshit. I'll just stop here fora well deserved beverage. I love the
way like the sideburns make his faceeven more cherubic than it usually is,
Like when Lewis watched his name.The director wants to apparently look all the
(01:01:51):
way up Belue, she's nostril,which I don't know about you, Matt,
but I could do that. Girlswant to have a little beverage.
We can't see it. I can'timagine what we'll be going through that either
of these women's heads. Like beingin a car with Blushi in this situation,
(01:02:14):
they would probably wonder why there wasa thick smell of pork and why
they spent most of the time hopingto get some cheese and crackers to go
with like that Australian beer astray andleft. You know, Ryann, you
(01:02:37):
don't have to stay with it.Sometimes I just want to take a nap
and cut his heart out. Youdon't want to do something like that.
Now, look, I'm going togive you the number of a woman's shelter.
We at this point have no ideawhat's going on. I don't know
who these two women are, howthey know each other, why they're in
(01:02:57):
a car with Blushi. Here's thatmoment? Well, is this literally the
only and he gives change for aband? Oh, he's the he's the
guy, he's the fence and forthe stuff. Oh I see, Okay,
we probably instead of talking over it. He bought these chips. And
I don't know if the microchips haveto are the parts for the the time
(01:03:22):
travel thing, or if they're justyeah, that's right, Yeah we're in
Wisconsin, or they just have anyWisconsin plates? Whoa they do? Either?
One of you know where we couldfind a place to camp around here
tonight. I'm sorry, I'm notfrom around here. I don't think they're
(01:03:47):
any Wisconsin. I think these peopleare from Wisconsin, which is to indicate
that they are simple. Still noaccents. That's not Australian. It's like
cash. I love new gas stationrun by M. M. At Walsh
(01:04:13):
in some dust fall town in southwestAmerica is a hotbed of fencing technical equipment.
Oh, she was cheating on him. Oh somehow what M. Walsh's
buddy's got pictures of her cheating?Oh the Latin American guy that had the
(01:04:35):
car problem? Yeah, what ifhe kept going through the pictures and there
was like close penetrative shop. He'slike, you didn't have to take that
picture. No, but I gota long telephoto I got because I just
wanted to really do you a solidhere. I think it must have dropped
(01:05:00):
my wallet. Yeah, uh ohyeah, be pissed. Yeah. I
do kind of feel like that thatscene would have been enough for Roger Ebert
to say he liked this movie.So maybe this does pass the M.
(01:05:23):
M. Walls test for him,right, like the Bechel test. You
would you stop? I don't knowwhat the Bechtel test is, but anyway,
it's two women with women in amovie or something. So they have
to be two women in a scenewith no no guys, but also not
talking about a guy, so likethis previous scene. But the two of
(01:05:45):
them didn't pass the Bechtel test becausethey were talking about Belushi the whole time,
right right, right, right right, yeah, yeah, we should
come up with their own blue naturalas well. So far, this one
I think kind of isn't for acouple of reasons. One, the clothing
he's wearing is not nineties enough.Right, we haven't seen it denim shirt
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yet. We haven't seen it outlandishtime. You know that's not at any
point exactly not. Do you wanta beer or do you not want to
goddamn beer? Sir? Leave youalone? Dranking frank dranken drank drank bringing
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frank drinking rank? Where are wegoing? You see caring my brand here?
She seems to think that I'm oneof those after the bone under assholes,
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and I think it just brings anout of me. What do you
think? It seems to me thatif you work it out? Oh is
that what you think? Yeah?I think it's a little too late for
back. I think no, Iknow now we ever work out? Nope,
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because that's looking to be Tucson area. Have some unforeseen realization that has
left me sadden and terribly hurt you. It occurred to me back there that
i'd seen that picked up the truckbefore. Maybe we're in Maybe you might
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have an understand going that isn't youcome on in it's Frank, Oh fail
me the truth. He pulls outthe pictures, but the only ones he
kept, the really close out penetrative. He just goes, look and he
just shows and it's just like talkingbowls and labor and it's but for some
(01:08:21):
reason, it's a photograph of likein nineteen seventies pulling so everything. He's
waving frown. She's gonna kill me, Frank, look at me. Of
course that's the kind of you know, SHOT's what it is. SHOT's what
it is. Come on, turnaround and talk about this, Frank.
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She's doing hot negotiators and a dramaticmoment. John goes from Watchamell and Harribo.
That's my buddy, And I sawLordship Radia in the theater. My
friend was eating popcorn at like themost like en scenes, like the whole
place is quiet us here, yeah, the whole the whole places cry and
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you're just like, I just wantmy Walter melon. Hanniball. I love
the horror movie Damsel Run. Shejust did there. She's still kind of
doing it too, with like thearms kind of could go with I mean
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Matt, I understand what you meanabout he's not dressed nineties enough. But
right, the post pulp fiction Americananineties straight to DVD movie, yeah,
was a very nineties thing. Yeah, oh yes, yes, yeah,
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I mean James Vader was in abouteight of them, right there. So
as we as we go through yeswith Eric, with our journey, as
we go through our journey with Blushi, we will find there are there are
two Belushi's oh the nineties. Thereis the beige suited pop blushie with either
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a T shirt or a dark shirtunder a linen beage suit, running around
in the desert. Or there isthe post Tarantino nineties independent directors getting their
chance to get their stuff distributed.Yes, it's an action genre pick,
but it's also kind of arty inits own way sort of movie, and
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there were plenty of those in thenineties. So while he might not be
the nineties Belushi you long for,Matt, I don't think he's any less
nineties, That's what I'm saying.No, he does feel like he's channeling
some Vincent Vega, and like thelooks on his face and the way he's
sort of his mannerisms, you know, like a Southern vincent Bega. Yeah,
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I mean this is he was hopingthat this would be his pulp fiction
and the Lewis whatever his name is, was going to take him to the
higher level. Turned out that itwould be a few years later when he
would finally get there with According toJim, it wasn't the art art house
movie that did it. It wasthe Yeah, it was the every man
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in sitcom. The only thing thatthis has in common with pulp fiction,
it's Frank Whaley right exactly. Thisguy right here, big Cahn Burger.
Nobody relaxed. They speak English.And what that's a big brain? Was
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the vegetarian or my girlfriend's vegetarian,which would which means I'm a vegetarian.
Yeah, check out the big brainon right. The characters actually gotta you
know, he's creating a time traveldevice with all of these Apple to E
you know, Clone PC computers.He's got, you know, all these
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nimbus that he's running. We justhe just started it by jumping over some
hydrogen peroxide like jar of pills orsomething that did we miss a scene where
he had a cut and he hadto put peroxide on it, and then
he left the bottles like above thereand check out peroxide bottle. Maybe she
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was trying ahead with it. Ohthat's a good point. Yes, yeah,
he's dumb broad with their their peroxide, leaving it around and sets off
by time travel device. Belushi's goingback in time wants to jump into the
bodies of other belushies like it kindof leap right, like this Belushi in
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K nine. She doesn't know thatall is left. How good did that
mean? Yeah, you know blueShy. I feel like he would be
up for a nineties like remaking allof his movies that way, as like
modern Blushy getting quantum leaped into allof these other belushies gang related Blushy.
(01:13:30):
Yeah, you know, traces ofred blush. Well, he would stay
in traces of Red Belushi for awhile, I think, right right,
I think he would be like Iget to I get to make out with
Breathy Loray Bracco, who's acting likeshe's a little by and drunk permanently.
Sure, I'll hang around that worldfor a little bit. Oh, so
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she went back in time. She'sable to remember why happened before. So
she went back in time, andthen she was able to remember, like
him talking about his belt, buckand stuff. So she knows. So
basically what it's saying is she nowknows she has to rewrite him a framework
to work at what you might doif you go back and change your life.
It sounds like bullshit to you,Frank, you should took the words
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running out of my mouth. Butit's not. It's therapeutic role playing.
Okay, that role playing thing,do you? Yeah, just like Tarzan
and Jane, right, Frank,you have you are reading my mind girl,
And if you don't mind me saying, you're driving just a little too
fast for your own good, Ibet it feels like fifty five. Yeah,
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it feels like it, but itwon't seem like it to that cop
back there can tell me. Yeah. So now we know how this is
going to play out. She isto try and save Shannon Blurry from the
immense port heavy Blushi got good.That was like the first thing that shocked
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her when she got like, Ismell that that heavy ham smell again.
It's it's like it's yeah, yeah, is it boiled, is it baked?
Is honey dressed? I don't know. It's just strong, it's just
very it's it's thick with scent,and it's been sitting out on the table
(01:15:23):
like the meal has already been served. It's been sitting there and it's it's
on that border of like is ittoo late to put it away? Like
do we leave it out too longto cool? And yeah, it is
it too which I believe. RobertLudlam coined The Pork Conundrum the book that
was one of his books, RobertLudlam's The Pork Conundrum Coming soon, cuss.
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Jeffrey Pork was a spy look likea series of like pulp novels,
The Pork, Jeffrey Pork, ThePork. You gotta got up, sir.
Oh oh uh, police department.This is the one ad man that's
full ship that fool. Oh that'snot good. Oh, I've got a
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shout. I kind of made abigger mess of it here. You're trying
to get him in the She reallyfucked up there. Yeah, how she
suck with Belushi the I mean atleast in the open air. So the
ham kind of gets he's almost youknow when people put thick first best time
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in salads, Yes, leave thosesalads out. Yeah, he's almost processed
ham salad. The person salad.Yeah, yeah, well that should I
really eat this browning salad with ahambit. It's like that person who goes
to the diner thinking, if Iorder the ham with the with the meat
on it, it's gonna be areally like nice salad because it looks nice
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in the picture on the menu.But when you get it, it's exactly
if you describe it. You've gotto kind of pick at it a little
bit, and everybody else on thetable goes, are you gonna eat your
salad? And you're just like,no, no, I don't you know.
You try, like the sickly warmbranch dressing to see if you can
gut see it up, but itonly helps so much. And someone,
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some god forsaken human being has putcold peas in the salad, which is
enough to make anyone just throw up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this
this version did not go well.No, this is the diner salad of
attempts to rewrite history. But shesounds like he's talking through a bag of
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cheese money and Christ a lot oflike he's been alding. He's been eating
only excessively salted products for quite sometime, so the saliva is so built
up in his mouth. You know. It's like me when I'm I haven't
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eaten anything all day and I'm donewith work and I just have a bag
of chips, and I end upgoing through the entire thing without realizing that
I've done it, you know,And it's like those glorious moments. That's
what we call freedom matter, that'swhat we call in my new book,
my new self help book, littleBuckets of Freedom. That's that's my felt
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book, right, And it's allabout Matt finding those moments in the day
where you can consume an entire bagfull of chips alone, by yourself,
with no one bothering you about anything. It's cooled dream state, Matt.
And in my book little Pockets ofwhat did I call it, I don't
(01:19:24):
know anyway, Yeah, little pocketsof freedom, Little pockets freedom. You
will learn how to scatter these momentsthroughout your day Mac to have a better
life existence. Yeah. I it'sone of those things where I tell myself,
you've got to have food in thehouse, so you don't do that.
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But then it's just like the bagof chips is just so because you
don't have to cook chips, justopen them and and they're all in there
and oh man, cooking with math. You don't have to cook chips,
a true one of the boiler kitchen. You don't have to cook ships.
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They're easy. They're just there,they're right there. Anyone just make it
slightly. Yeah, that's that's thething with chips. Yeah, that's what.
That's what. That's how chips getyou is that you know every time
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because it containstes like anything. Ifyou get British chips like I who you
can get beef flavored crisps, chickFavor crisps, Mason flavored crisps, pickled
onions favorite crisp. Oh yeah,you can probably get freeosh fun flavored crisps.
And then out of the crisps,makee pickled burger you know what I
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mean, Like flavored pickle flavored potatoes, catch up flavored and then burger flavor
together and one off, got Matt. That's a dream dinner right there,
No cooking wolves. I go toa you can taste the whole rainbow mat
(01:21:08):
did you want to work orbay?I go to the market in Chinatown and
I get roasted garlic, roasted roastedgarlic oyster flavor, and I got it
on accident one time. When youopen the bag, the aroma that comes
out, it's probably similar to whatyou might smell if you're sitting in a
kara blushi on a long ride.But once you taste them that they it's
(01:21:30):
a kind of an achoir taste.They're they're a little bit okay, you
know. But of course, no, no, no, no, I
mean America, while leading the worldin so many things, it falls far
behind on its native chip flavor.Yes, you dabble occasionally, like Lays
will occasionally go all all right,We've done a chicken and waffle flavor.
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I enjoy it for thirty seconds andthen we'll discontinue it again. Yes,
yeah, exactly, you know,Or Lays will do any barbecue, they'll
branch out from the regular barbecue mattand give us a little honey barbecue.
But in general, your meat flavorsyour weird flavor, like we have prawn
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cocktail flavor, yes, and tomatoketchup flavor like you know, you're barely
and I would say mass, Iwould say that tomato ketchup flavored crisps is
barely scratching the surface. At thispoint, there is so many more things
that I want to eat on crisps, you know what I mean. That's
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that's that's that's the thing. That'sthe thing. Get esoteric with this.
You know. Now they do havechocolate dipped crisps. Oh, I haven't
had those yet. There there aresome chocolate dip crisps out there that you
can you can buy. I don'tknow if there's any chocolate flavored crisps.
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You get kettle on flavored pop chips, which is sort of a sweet flavoring.
I think they've done like a cinnamonchip, haven't they, Or a
cinnamon pretzel or something. Yeah,I think that. Yeah, well pretzels.
They get cute with pretzels all thetime, right with chocolate pretzels winking
out of you with their limbs Olympiclucky charms? Was that? Yeah?
(01:23:27):
Yeah. By the way, thisthis scene paid for the entire movie,
especially Picnic spends so much money inthis movie. The head of the head
of Picnic was like, I'm donemaking tiny little French France. Then I
want to get into movies. Andthey were like, have we got just
(01:23:49):
a film for you? Shoot rightnow in some god forsaken desert in the
southwest of America. It stars JimBelushi. How is Jim belue? She
well, in a few years youwill know him as the lovable rogue on
according to Jim. But right nowhe is adrift and the sea of the
movies and bad choices that many yearsfrom now will be exploited for barely say
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comedy by two middle aged men,one from Philly and one from England,
who occasionally, late into night willtalk about one of them. I'm sorry,
but I've already lost you. Idon't know where you've gone. Put
me in the put me in thetime machine and send me back twenty minutes.
I'm done. I don't know.I don't know whether that improv ended
(01:24:36):
or not. I think it justI think I got confused as to where
I was. I got confused,like I was in the middle of the
improv that I was like, No, I've lost it. I've got into
an improv vortex from which it willbe impossible to clamb around. Oh well,
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oh we blue, She's screaming ofthe bad Southern accent, holding a
shotgun. You know, you candance on the pinhead of the improv tundra,
but if you fall into it,Matt, you are really uh love,
And I was out there in theSiberian wastelands of improv the abyss,
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the improv abyss right a moment,but it's hard for it to be a
tense moment when again, you've gotthis cherubic faced blue sheet with these sideburns
and like this ruddy complexion, likelooking trying to look as menacing. I
(01:25:40):
mean, look at him and thenwatsh looks like he smells something bad too.
He's like, what's that Ham?Or it's that old ham? Look
at the only sign you can seeclearly he says guns and traps. Right
listen, I've lived that west.I've driven through Texas. I've never come
across a gas to that has thesigned guns and Traps on the side,
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like it's commonplace, Matt. WhileI'm driving through the desert. I've been
here for four straight days. I'mtrying to travel food to Houston. But
you know what, I don't haveenough of I don't have enough of guns
and oh look, there's a placeright in the middle of the traps.
I'm not go into my horse shit. I love the idea of what you're
(01:26:24):
going on a long trip, andit's like, oh, honey, did
you pack the guns and traps?Got them? We'll go I mean,
la, I got the hand lugage. Oh you know what I forgot?
What's that? The guns and traps? Shiler. If you have one job,
my job, the guns and traps. Well, I thought that it
(01:26:48):
was more important that we brought babyfood and food buy it all right,
all right, the first rest upwe get to, I will get some
more guns and traps. It's justsuch a waste of money because we have
so many guns and traps at homethat you're now buying guns and traps,
and they charge you so much moreat the little the West areas for them.
(01:27:10):
Yeah, but I like, Ilike supporting independent business. Now shut
your trap until you can find memore traps. What are the traps?
Are they like the big heavy likebear things, or they like the crab
traps, or like what amment Walsh'sout in the middle of the fucking uh
(01:27:32):
Arizona desert just being like, I'vegot a big, fucking bad trap.
I've got like one of those likealligated traps. Right, He's got one
of those like big net traps thatyou're hanging the thing and then someone steps
in the noose and then it getspulled up and then you got all that
rigging. In fact, Walsh hasa ten tot YouTube YouTube video self help
(01:27:59):
guid on out of trap people utilizingnettings. The classic get the person to
step their foot inside the NEOs thingand get hung upside out, which I
don't even know how that trap worksbecause you have to step exactly in that
one place, but somebody always stepsin and she's like, no, I
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don't know if you know this,but uh. On the weekends, I
like to go to a ranch andwe like to hunt paul people, one
of those like racially the most dangerousgame is hunting humans kind of fucking thing.
He's like, every weekend I goafter the ranch and we hunt pulp
(01:28:42):
is. So I divide several traps, traps and guns actually, like the
the Donold Schwarzenegger predator, like likethe swinging spiked wood like logs trapped.
It's like kind of step and thenthe yeah, the thing swings out of
the tree and hits you clear inthe chest. Yes. I love the
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idea of Blushi going and looking fortraps and being like, you got one
of them ones that swings down?Oh, I got the one that swings
down. It's right over here,but be careful because they come swinging down
on you might get you. Hehasn't rigged up in the story. He's
losing customers. You know. Ithink that guy would involve one about that
fucking decapitated him. They've only madepiantas fucking right to his face. I've
(01:29:30):
never seen anything like it. Spentthe whole thing apart this. One of
the timelines is that they don't theydon't interrupt the couple or the family.
They're looking for the campsite, andthey go in to talk to m and
walls with the campsite, and theguy's like, yeah, we're about town.
We'd be curious to see your traps. Sure right this way, Well,
don't touch that. It's like Ikilled six children this week. We'll
(01:29:58):
have kids everydy love to play withrope that I just tell him not to
him. You tell him not tobut I mean the next is so close
to the ground that even though they'sstepping it, the rope comes up around
their necks, clings him up intoa tree, then dead before they hit
the bar. Uh So, nowshe's pleaded with Frank Wayley to send her
(01:30:19):
back the camera goes spinning. Ohso that's the second time. This is
the third time. This. Yeah, so Frank Wayey doesn't remember meeting her.
That's the key. She remembers meetinghim, but he doesn't remember meeting
her. That's what they I guesswhat they're explaining, like the rats wouldn't
remember this movie, mat is ifgiven the chance to go back in time
(01:30:41):
and stop doing something. Because everyonealways says this, if I go back
in time killing baby Hitler, rightor whatever? Right? Yes, What
this movie is saying is, ifyou had that opportunity, right, you
go back in time, kill babyHitler, the humans would fuck it up
to the point where they would haveto get themselves in some kind of insane
(01:31:01):
time loop, spending entirely too muchtime coatooned with a Blushi and a a
that. I mean, this iswhat they're saying. They're saying if someone
was like, oh, we goback in time, Okay, you go.
You know, we've only got tenchances, all right, and you've
got to kill the baby Hitler right, most likely, Matt it's not killed
(01:31:23):
the tenth time that the human evengets fucking close. That's how dumb we
are. That's what this movie issaying, I hope they have somebody going
back. But what was like Hitlerwas born like eighteen eighty nine or something
like that or eighteen ninety nine.It's like somebody goes back and as an
age a fan, I have noidea. I'd anyone say to me,
(01:31:44):
like brother was hit Ler boy?I have no idea. Anyway. I
think it was something at like thelate eighteen hundreds, but it was like
you they send the person back thereand they have no idea what they're doing
in that time, and they justimmediately get killed right away by it.
Like you know, like you know, it's like they can't spend any money
or something like got no money?All right, Well then you're done.
You know, there's throw out ofa you know, it's like that's never
That's the other thing, you're right, Like people get sent back in time.
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There's it's always sent They're always sentback to a point where they're like,
well, conveniently, I know enoughabout this era. It has to
be authentic while also seeming like ohcomedy, fish out of water. Right,
they never sent back to time,or if they are sent back to
medieval times, they seem to geton with it. Reasonably well, which
(01:32:28):
is baffling because you would probably berun through with a broadsword, trampled by
a horse, speared by a boar, or die or immediately show up and
get the plague and diving in fourdays of a disease you right, never
come across in your life. Yeah, you'd be sitting next to your trench
mate eating some nasty stew that's likeso hard and disgusting because the Lord is
(01:32:49):
eating all the great food and there'sno way you're going to be hanging out
with the Lord. You're in,you're with you're with the rabble. You
know, the peasants of the circumvowsare immediately impacted, causing right exactly,
you catch whatever disease because you're sharingthe meal with the same person who's got
all these diseases that you you know, it's like none of that, none
(01:33:12):
of it, none of the watersfiltered. Right. Yeah, how humans
even survived the Middle Ages, Itis just it's amazing because every generation thinks
that the generation, the current generationhas it so much easier than they did,
right that, like that whatever thenew were and and so that had
to have started in the Middle Ages, like as things were like slowly getting
(01:33:34):
better. People were like, you'veactually got clean water one day of the
week. We you know, wehad to go you live eight come,
that's insane, right, You actuallycan tell the lord that that he can't
sleep with your wife. Now whenyou get married like we always had to
let the lord, you know,you can actually say no and refute it.
(01:33:56):
You know, it's just you know, then the Magna Carta, that
was it, Like, you don'tknow what it was like before the Magnakarta.
That's a volume, have no idea. I don't know why the people
in England would be a Southern Americanaccent of people, but it just seems
right when talking about follows that nobodyknows anything about to do either an English
Northern accent. You don't know whatit was like before the Magna Carta.
(01:34:21):
Goodness may it's either that accent,Matt or it's an American an American accent,
like either accent seems to play well, and that's not I'm not for
smirching the good people of the southof the Mason Dixon line, and I'm
not for smirching the people who liveweirdly north of Birmingham in the UK.
(01:34:45):
Because everything about Birmingham sort of wouldjust weirdly north of Birmingham. I'm not
for smirching those people. Those peopleare wonderful people, but and I call
many of them dear for I havemany northern friends, Matt, you know
what I mean, In the sameway that I have many black friends,
I have many northern friends. Yeah. I have a co worker who's from
(01:35:09):
the north of England. I rememberI was telling him about watching him a
Craik Fairbreats movie where people had baseballbats, and I was saying, how,
like, what what do you sellbaseball bats for other than to beat
people up and you know, usethem for bar security. And he's like,
actually, where I'm from, itwasn't just a baseball bat when they
put a nail in the baseball bat. So it's like, yeah, that's
(01:35:30):
how he grew up. Yeah.Yeah. A friend of mine said that
woman is fucking hopeless at just killingvolutions. Like what she used to do
is jump back in them. Oldbuddy fully gun out while he's yabbering on
him about some bullshit shooting him.He was receding hairline, he's leaving his
(01:35:55):
body. You know, there's almostlike a respute and quality to Blue.
She in this film where he justcan't can't die right, and then I
mean we haven't got to the pointwhere she's like stabbing him and rolling up
in a carpet and throwing in waterand stuff like that, and like,
you know, but he's he hasthis quality to him, like you know,
like he seems like this bumbling oafbut yet he's like very skilled in
(01:36:17):
hand to hand combat. He's like, you know, somebody just said,
did Blue she just outrun a bullet? I mean, you know, not
incitable? I mean, obviously BlueShe is out running everything right now in
a weirdly retro pickup truck. Yes, I mean there's only the nineties and
everyone's driving around as if it's likenineteen fifty six. I expect to see
(01:36:40):
someone to go buying a penny fatherthat's old packards just kind of like a
fucking muddle teeth fold or something.Let me get out and this crank her
a whole bit there. How didyou know? Because every single car they
come across is older than the previouscar they came. Someone comes through and
(01:37:02):
just like a horse and buggy,there's two armish people come through, Like
why is going on. Well,in this time travel movie, the cars
also go back in time. Matt. That's right, there is a perpetual
automobile time travel loop. Why isthat man wearing Kevin Bacon's wardrobe from Tremors.
(01:37:27):
I'm gonna say this is part ofa go ahead. You're talking about
Kevin Bacon's wardrobe. That guy thatwe're looking at right now with the ponytail,
he's Yeah, if there were graboidsunder the sand, he'd be who
we were left with. And thatponytail, Matt, is a graboid's delight.
They will be going right for that, like he is. Well,
(01:37:50):
the moment that they get hold ofthat Steven Seagal style ponytail, that is
over for this guy. And washthough, look at him Never Afraid movie,
I mean man, A lot ofpeople again they're like, oh,
I want to be Brad Pittter.I want to be you know, Kennedy
(01:38:10):
Shallon May or whatever my thing is. I would want M. M.
At Walsh's career, Like how muchfun as M. M. Walsh had?
Not only that he got to eatall of those wicks and sugar twin
exactly right, and all that chefboyd there you got to eat all of
that, that was all him.He left the raising up brand. Though
(01:38:33):
he left that he was like myamendment wash ship twenty times a day,
whether I want to or not,because the enormous amount of five where I
consume every thirty five minutes. Ithink my favorite Emment Wall scene was when
he was thrown through the plate glasswindow in Critters, like he's going to
(01:38:56):
the house and it's just like Ijust seeing him hurling through the air and
obvious it was a stunt double,but just the idea of him just flying
through the air like that, youknow, like this is Benny's world of
blood. This is the same conveniencestore that's at the beginning of Dustill Dawn.
Because literally they the filmmaker watched fromDustill Dawn and was like, I
(01:39:20):
want to do something like that,but with sci fi and Jim Belushi and
someone in the Midwest went here,have four hundred thousand dollars and I'm guessing
that's about the budget of this movie, right. Oh yes, Belushi was
sideburns. Yeah, for a hundredthousand dollars, you get Belushi with sideburns.
(01:39:45):
You give me the extra fifty.I do the comedy accent you pay
me another twenty five. I atenothing but pork for six days before we
start film, just exuding pork throughevery orphice and every every pore of my
(01:40:08):
being. And then it comes tolike the actors, studio and the guys
like so to prepare for the role, you only ate sixty days. You
went method and you only ate porkproducts for sixty days. Talk us through
that, you know. Now,in a famous survey by Banadeva, when
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you get to the pearly gates,But will the Lord say to you,
damn, I thought you were goingto be your brother. Well the Lord
says, Damn, you ate entirelytoo many pork products. I forgive you
a freak demand through a window.Can we just Lucy just kicked the man
(01:41:00):
through a window. That's some JamesBlickenhouse shit. I don't know about you,
but that is James Glickenhouse ship.Yeah, yeah, that's very very
PM roadhouse. Yeah you know,yeah, Patrick or Robert Patrick in a
PM flick, just yeah, takinga stunt guy and just knocking through like
(01:41:21):
a movie like this probably has moreof a budget than a PM Entertainment film,
right, and yet it doesn't quiteachieve what PM entertainment does. Yeah,
it looks very good, Like thismovie looks great. Yeah, and
look at this all the food flyingaround. Look at that because apparently if
(01:41:45):
you shoot, if you shoot peanuts, Matt, they dramatically fly up in
the air in slow motion. Potatosticks, the slim gyms. There was
a cold stack of the canister ofslim gyms together. I used to love
those like that was another thing,Like the chips were cannisterer and be like,
oh, these will last me forever. It last me ten minutes.
And what happens if you shoot slimgems? We need to find out that.
(01:42:11):
Yeah she did, Kyle. Nowit's Benny's World of Blood. Well
m m, it's world of blood, I would assume. So you know
what the key to PM entertainment was. I mean, obviously spirou Rozatto's helped
so, but you know he youknow, and it was like the talent
like Blushi was you know for agreative Belu she is and we love Blush,
but like, you know, hewas not quite like a Gary Daniels
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or Jeff Wincott, like just like, you know, here are these guys
who aren't getting big roles. Let'sput him in on movies. Let them
just unleash them with spiro Zato's andyou know Art Camacho, oh even Jeff
Cray and Michael Madson, right exactly, Yeah, thanks Rob, thanks for
watching. Robert, have a goodnight, man all the best. I
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mean this at least, I justcan't help but think that if BM Entertainment
made this film, it would bethere would be eighteen cars and someone would
be throwing gas canisters off the backof one of them. Oh yeah,
and another one would be exploding.I mean that bit in the Sweeper when
Thomas now falls off a building witha guy with a rope around his neck.
(01:43:23):
The guy is literally hung from abuilding. He told us how then
climbs back up the rope and getsback up on the building. Like that
is a phenomenal fucking scene. Likea phenomenal fucking scene, right yeah,
I mean, and I love thepat that spirous artis basically did so many
B movies and on every B moviehe just said to the director like I've
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had an idea for a stunt andI want to try it out like this.
The whole second half of Maniac Coptwo is just spiros trying out stunts.
That's all. And don cosk DonCoscrery, Sorry, Bill Lusting just
like me? Why not exactly?And if you think that's an exaggeration,
that's exactly what Bill Luvestick sounds like. I'm not even kidding no last thing.
(01:44:10):
He sounds like that it's great.Look at this Mment Walsh act,
what is it gets to crash?George Soup as well, Oh, this
is fantastic, Matt. We shouldn'tappreciating this. This is this is where
it's it's it's meeting the Roger Ebertrule is that he's watching this and he's
like, yeah, I don't reallylike a lot of what's happening here.
(01:44:31):
I mean, this is some PMstuff right here. This is a PM
greatness matter. All right. Thenext movie just leapt up in my estimations.
This movie just went up a fuckingnot kind of hat What is this?
This is beautiful, amazing. Thiswoman is going back in time and
just making a mess of this tolike a degree that we can't mean it's
(01:44:51):
like we should. And Sam Beckettwent back into a bust and everyone he
jumped into died of siphons. Canimagine Scott Beckley if you like whatever if
they redid I think they did tryto redo quantumly, but that would be
a basically if he just went back, just blew everything up because he just
(01:45:13):
made a mess of everything so bad. I gave this child syphilis back,
Why do you have syphilis? Well, it's a long story. We just
lostmas there. Yeah, this moviejust jumped up and not. We've got
SlowMo. We've got whatever is blurryvision. We've got dust rising, we've
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got ammento wash going down, we'vegot explosions, we've got children, got
hot lungs. Yeah, come on, police officers gonna blow. She's just
doing fucking donuts and a blues rebillike. He insisted that he put this
end so that he could show Acroydand be like, please here, he's
(01:45:59):
gonna stuck the hat the kid inthe that that old coke thing. If
you watch Final Impact, there's anold coke machine like that in there.
I had to get a screen shotof it when I did the review.
Yes, yeah, I like that. Yeah, call back from very early
on when we were John be ableto take away John's I don't think we're
recording to you showing me here up. Yeah, yeah, No, I
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have a plethora of p M entertainmenttapes that I was showing map. I've
always started filming maybe if, if, if, everyone may be, if
everyone's lucky. I will get tothe end of the show and I just
it just show MYM entertainment films.Maybe yeah, yeah, maybe I'll do
(01:46:46):
it again, Matt at the endof the show. So you forget,
You'll forget, you'll forget, enamoredby the beluseness of it all. This
has to be I'm sorry, Matt, I think this has to be top
five. This is a really goodbut it's a it's a it's a stunner
of a top five blue she It'slike it's like watching like like you know,
(01:47:10):
uh soccer from you know football,like at the highest level, where
like the top of the table teamis playing the bottom of the table team
and for the first like like sixtyminutes of the game, seventy five minutes,
it's like nil nil, and thebottom of the table team thinks they're
gonna win whatever, and suddenly likethe quality comes through and suddenly they score
like five goals, Like this moviejust scored five goals on us, like
right now, like just in thepast, A beautiful analogy. I'm sorry,
(01:47:33):
I'm gonna put my white ul getvery impressed, very impressed. Responsible,
you're gonna make it. I didsee this movie recovering to this degree.
You know the Mexicans, what tradehold on? There's another that's a
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great shot. Remember that little experimentthat I was working on? What ship?
By bullshit? She said? Whenhe finished the script lying in,
(01:48:23):
he just goes. My wife waslike, well, you need a paycheck?
All right? You're right? Isthat right? Yes, it's true,
Frank. That's how I know allabout you. You know all about
(01:48:43):
me? Do you? Why ishe like half playing it like Alma Fu,
the other half trying to play itlike the most threatening bad guy in
any movie ever? And I don'tIt's a weird dichotomy's playing on so many
levels. I don't even think I'mgetting all of them, you know,
(01:49:05):
right, No, it's just it. Yeah, But one minute he's like
killed a rabbit, and then thenthe next minute it's just like, yeah,
he's like able to like, youknow, yeah, kick people through
glass windows. I even ranknew aboutthe money. Yeah that's how come you
(01:49:25):
new the end of my joke?Mm hmm, Hell, Brian, bring
me on up. I'm surprised youdidn't have a costume in Star Trek.
Can you imagine? Well, comeon, man, beat me. Oh
we got the kid here. Hedidn't suffocate for some reason. I guess
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you're gonna get according to Jim,and you're gonna like that. Would that
would be great if CBS or ParamountRippor decided to do a Star Trek series
with Lucy has the Captain just sortof sitting there and his kind of thing,
you know, just blush. Youknow. They don't quite get the
tunic on. It's open down toabout hands flat showing he's smoking a joint
(01:50:12):
and playing the harmonica and everyone iswalking pop and being like give it up?
Is this like young willowy like likegen z, like pretty girl,
sprightly girl as his like second incommander, second officer, and he just
like constantly calls her like all kindsof like horrible terms that like we're bad
for the nineties, but you know, like baby, sweet cakes, all
(01:50:33):
these sweet cakes. We do RedAlert here, sweet cakes come on,
you know, and she's she's like, she's like, Captain, you're really
not allowed to call me that anymore. He goes and I suppose I'm not
able to call you it tasted buns. Suppose I'm not able to say nice
(01:50:55):
sugar tis and that it would bebad, you know, And he just
goes on like offensive figures. She'sjust like, yeah, that would be
wrong. Please don't do that andstop it. You know. The Promulans
like fire a photon torpedo at theship and it shakes the whole thing,
(01:51:16):
and they're all like kind of movingaround like I guess we're gonna start getting
to the business here, and thenhe goes he just he's still going in
the corner, and I suppose theywould be wrong. And I supposed it
would be wrong if I grab yourhooters that would be and sposed And just
(01:51:36):
like everyone's just all of it iswrong. If you're doing anything in the
vicinity of a woman, it's wrong. Playing the harmonica, Yes, nobody
wants to hear you playing the harmonica. No one ever watched a Jim belution
went you know what would make thisbetter? Harmonica? No one ever said
(01:51:58):
that, Jim. I wonder ifBelushi playing the harmonica in this would be
enough to make it a bad movie. Like like tip TI, yes,
reverse the Walsh rule for Roger Ebertif this movie, which is this exciting
and this ridiculous. But to theend of the film, they're all the
(01:52:19):
all the cast of friends, allof a sudden because they've all fixed whatever
problems they were. And the verylast shot is the credits roll. They're
all sat on the porch of likea western ranch house. Belushi is playing
Harmonica and the woman and the littleboy are like dancing together like happily.
(01:52:40):
That would kill this whole movie dead, completely dead. Yeah, yeah,
we can't. Ye. Welcome toSean here shot away from I must break
this podcast. Yes, you're seeingme on camera here for sure. Oh
sure. Hey, Hey Joe andSean. I don't know you, but
(01:53:01):
hello, Welcome to two middle agedmen watched ninety zero with Jim Belushi Films,
and you've joined us. While weare enjoying the over the top performance
of mister Jim Belushi in UH Retroactive. We are one hour and ten minutes
into it. We have seventeen moreminutes to go, and it has turned
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the corner. It has become exciting, nail biting things have exploded, people
have died, people have been kickedthrough windows. Belushi has gone back in
time, and is so confused byit that he's doing everything exactly the same
way. Yeah, it's Sean malloyis the host of adult Lundering podcast Dat
(01:53:47):
put In Chat Jo and I wantto listen. Yeah, it's no,
it's absolutely great. I always talkabout this one interview he did with a
line producer Benjamin Sacks, because hegets into the nitty gritty of working with
Cigall actually, because he did worksome wonder on some films, but he
just like the inside dope, likewhat it was like Withall and those like
(01:54:09):
bailed it in, you know KeoneWaxmen directed kind of Yeah, it's beautiful.
Yeah, although I have to saythat the one way he mailed in
but he's fighting vampires. What itactually Sean was a gainst. Sean was
a guest of my podcast. Wetalked about a load of the Dark actually,
but he was sewn actually on anepisode we talked about that one.
(01:54:30):
Yeah, that's not a bad film. It's a fascinating movie. Right.
Yeah, So Sean had the bestanalogy giving a ship about the world that's
not right, Okay, it justmight be better than him getting thrown through
a play class window and critters thatwould have beaten it for me. By
(01:54:50):
the way, Emma, Emmitt Walshdoes all his own stunts because there isn't
a stunt man in the world thatcan mirror his jolly face. The slip
yips, Yeah, yeah, theyhave with the mm stunt man, they
have to glue extra like rubbery gowson his face against the doc. That's
(01:55:11):
it, thank you, And itwas alone in the dark as the slasher
film with Murdoch from the eighteen minutesand Donald against the doc. That's it
was the equivalent of adding pineapple toa dish that didn't need it. Uh,
I know what you're coming at theSean I I though would not have
even watched the movie if it wasup to the girl's presence. Uh.
That reason alone is probably uh heput it put at least one bomb on
(01:55:35):
seats. They well shout out agreat metaphor where he's like, imagine you're
a catering company. You get thisreally big deal and you're gonna you know,
you know, really, you know, make a lot of money and
all this stuff. But the thingis every dish has to have pineapple in
it. That's kind of like puttingsigall in a vampire movie. It's like,
yeah, like you know, anduh, it's it's it's an interesting
(01:55:57):
thing, right. Sometimes the pineappletastes good in the day. Sometimes you
don't know what's going on, andif you're a Brazilian barbecue, which Cigar
loves to go to, they roastpineapple in between courses to clean your palate
so that you have the ability toeat more meats. I think you've got
a dead child here matters. Well. I think this movie ratcheted it up
(01:56:17):
to the point where the child isdead. We kind of killed the child,
so he's gonna go back in timeand save the child. Yeah,
we're also getting confused as to whois going back in time and who So
she's going back in time twice,but belue she's gone back in time once,
and I think the dead child isabout to go back in time.
I don't even know how that works. Yeah, it's it's it's exciting you
(01:56:39):
caught them leap the child. Yeah, because you can't have a dead child,
you can't kill This movie is notready to go dead child level.
I think it just went dead child. There, They're done. The kid's
not coming back. Huh. Itwould be hilarious if every time she jumped
back in time, the kid diedin a more grotesque and hideous fashion no
matter what she did, Like evenif everyone just sat around and listened to
(01:57:01):
country Western music out of nowhere,the kid is like flayed alive and all
this came up, like it justgets more and more and more totterally disgusting.
And She's like, no matter whatI do, I'm stuck in the
dead peddler to get in. Becausethat's the thing about her is that she
just keeps screwing it up more andmore every time she goes back in time.
Yeah, although Blue, she's equallyscrewing up. I mean, everyone's
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screwing everything up. The only onewould I guess he's out of a picture
entirely. Now, what do youwant now, Frank dialogue Brian, damn
amazing machine. You got there.And I've been thinking about all the fun
(01:57:45):
I can have with you. WhatI to do? I can kill them,
both of you, zet myself backten minutes. I kill you again
and again and again and again.Not a very noble ambition of Frank.
Maybe she'd have a little higher Ijust want to have a little Australian accent.
(01:58:06):
Showed, no, I won't.Well, I'm sorry. Now Gall
and Belue Shy look very similar likeCigall and Belue. She should have played
brothers in the movie in the nineties. Yeah, how much you I think,
(01:58:29):
especially if I guess, I guess. He didn't spend a lot of
time in Michigan. He was bornthere, but then he moved to California,
so we never really had that Midwest. But what has every accent goal
is so multi ethnic is legally allowedto do any accents according to the show.
Uh was his cop show that hedid true justice? True justice?
(01:58:51):
No, no, it was atrue justice service. At the other one,
the Stigall law man or something lawman. That's it, Steven Sig
law Man and law man. Inany different episode, he'll claim to be
Chinese, he'll claim to be AfricanAmerican, he'll claim to be Native Americans.
She claims to be Jamaican. Kindsof so and all it means is
(01:59:12):
that Cigar is allowed to do aseries of increasingly racist accents without impressioning him.
Yes, oh yes, I thinkthat's a big difference between Cegall and
Blue Shi. Is that Blue Shekind of was leaned into getting older Whereasgall
keeps fighting it as if it's nothappening, you know. And so it's
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seen the two of them almost likeas ship's passing the night, where like
Blue she's getting older but accepting it. In Blues, Sigall is getting older
and not accepting it and trying tolike chia pete his hair and his goat
and stuff and make it like what, that'd be amazing They keep selling like
chif pet babra or chia pet whatever, chia pet Sigall. That would be
(01:59:56):
that I would rush out. AndBelu is loving the fun out of you.
Yeah, he gets to be abattie suddenly, like like a real
diabolical bad yell. I'm sad atall the pairings we didn't get. I
would have love Belushi Spader pairing.Yeah, that would I think we could
(02:00:23):
still get that with like a bald, overweight Spader with glasses and then blush
like. I'd almost like a newversion of like the those movies that you
should do with Walter Matthow and JackLemon grumpy old Man, Like a new
version of those two, like fishingand like arguing and you know, growing
(02:00:44):
weed and stuff like that. Yeah, what what the grumpy old man.
It would be like, uh likesweating Spader, like the turning to look
at the hand in the commercial fortsyou know Spain And why do you smell
(02:01:05):
like ham so much? Spader isjust sat gums potato salad, already puffed
out, flabby face. I'm gonnakeep eating potato salad. I meanwhile,
(02:01:28):
Blue, she's just like sweating andthe hair receding and smoking a joint,
making some color and mogs and abouthis wife. Well, Spader is like
my character would be eating a lotof potato salad. You just get tubs
a bit at the grocery store andjust wolf it down, and you know,
maybe like the red bliss Kind withthe red I like the redskins,
by as many potato salads as possible, because in this movie I will be
(02:01:53):
eating my annual body weight in potatosalad on a daily basis. I want
I want Spada to go like MarlonBrando stupid, do you know what I
mean? Like he just gets tothe point where he's just like for this
next movie, I'm gonna do theentire thing with my penis hanging just out
(02:02:15):
of my zipper, like not fullyunshee just like the nip of it,
bobbing up and down just out ofmy zipper. We'd really rather you did,
James, Listen, that is whatI'm gonna do. And if you
want Spader in the picture, youdon't have to put him on camera or
anything. But I'll know he's there, and you'll know he's there bobbing away.
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Everyone's like, this is very weird. I love the interview the director
after, Like, you know,it's like in the IMDb trivia you'll notice
that Spader is never seen from thewaist down. That is because he insisted
on having the head of his penishanging out from a zipper during the entire
film. Right, of course weread that IMDb thing. We think that's
(02:02:55):
ridiculous. Right, it's like thoseyou know, like the crazy Siga ones
where people write these particular you know, like someone who did that as a
joke that's not really a true thing, But in fact it was a true
thing. It was a true thing, and there are many many on set
photographs to prove it. Right.So this is the end, is that
she just realized that she's so badat doing this whole changing the past thing
(02:03:16):
that she would shoot her in theface. Right, She's just like,
I'm not even gonna do it.I'm not even gonna try. I'm just
gonna let them the movie is thatthe agent she was working for all along
was Belushi. I don't know,Okay, nope, nope. Yeah,
(02:03:39):
it's like anything to eat in hereto Joanne Whaley Kilma married before she married
Kilma. No, okay, butnotice how she got rid of the Kilma
but kept the Whaley. Right.I don't know that that's true. I
just made that up because they havethe same lass name. What is that
(02:04:00):
hair that usually has, right,that's yeah, he's doing a bit of
a Donald Trump right there. He'strumping it. Oh. All the way
(02:04:24):
along, it was a feminist parableabout how you shouldn't listen to Jim belution.
Look at him writhing on the hoodof the car while money slaps on
his face. This is like forthe director, that's like them shot right
there. I don't want to becrude, but that this is a kind
(02:04:45):
of a crucifixion to right, butlike the money splashing effeminately sticking out face,
just fucking writhing in ecstasy and agonyas Johnnie slapped his face like a
wet James Spader penis. Yeah,the kids survived. The kid survived.
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The wife took it out on Blushi. Everyone who was bad was punished.
Everyone who was good was good.She's going to come in and be like,
it's okay that she killed Blushi.Blue. She wasn't very nice even
though she was the one cheating onhim. Let's can we not forget that,
please? She was the one cheatingon him. Also, she could
have left him at any time.It's Blue Shi, everyone would have understood.
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But she stuck with him and thencheated on him. So the fact
that the moral of this movie thinksthat somehow Shannon Worry is the victor,
I'm sorry, could we not hearit? For poor Belushi? The cheat
didn't survive though I didn't realize thatImember wolfsh didn't make it survives the first
(02:05:56):
half wow, all the second halfWalsh die repeatedly. Nothing as good though
as Walsh being head on by astation wagon with a family, and I
think that beats him being thrown througha plate glass window and critters for me,
I think this is a yeah,yeah, it's an all time favorite.
M M at Walsh moments, youknow, also getting burned with a
(02:06:17):
cigar by Brian James and Red Scorpion. That was another good I know,
Sean, you're probably the no rememberthat one from a Yeah dull film that
that was a good m scene aswell. But I think tumbling over the
top of a car, like yousaid, head on, it doesn't get
much better than that. I couldsee how if I was Roger Ebert and
saw this movie, I would say, this is it thumbs up? You
(02:06:38):
know? Yeah, if if itcomes up her thumbs down, this his
thumbs up. I'm gonna say rightnow, if Eba gave this the thumbs
up, and I want I wantproof of that, Matthew, if he
gave this the thumbs up, uh, that is redeemed not only this movie,
but it's redeemed eb in my eyes. I mean technically. According to
(02:06:59):
IMDb, the only the only filmthat broke his eminent Walsh rule was Wild
Wild West. So that's the case. Again. His rule is is that
any movie that has Emment Walsh orHarry Dean Stanton has to be good just
by virtue of them being in thefilm. And I think this came out
before Wild Wild West, right,so it would you know, but I
(02:07:20):
guess The other thing is he probablywasn't screened for critics, like he probably
Rodrier probably never saw this movie.Well I don't know, I think,
but probably picked us off the shelvesof his local mom and pop videos.
So this was probably like if Ebertwas allowed, I think the problem was,
right, Ebert became this critic andand everyone decided, like, you
(02:07:41):
know, his ship didn't stink orwhatever, and then Ebert started to believe
that this ship didn't stink, andthen he just became this pompous, chubby
wrongster telling a series of skinnier peoplethat they're wrong, which they usually were
as well, to be honest,like, you know, Roper and the
other one were hardly much better hewas when he took over Cisco. Cisco.
(02:08:07):
Cisco was a pratt, Robo wasa pratt. Ebat was a white
like. It was such an awfulshow because he believed his own bullshit.
But I think that in the quietmoments, Matt, what in those Little
Buckets of Freedom that I'd like tocall nine now on Amazon and see Little
(02:08:28):
Puckets of Freedom, my new book. In those Pockets of Freedom, Matt,
I think that he would put thismovie on and be quite happy.
Yes, that's my feeling about Retroactive. I think Ibert would have had the
same feeling we had about this movie, that this is I don't know what
I'm watching for the first hour,and then the last hour half hour suddenly
(02:08:50):
I'm seeing like exploding cars, youknow, and then wall flying flying over
over the front of cars, likeyou know, Lucy going between Elmer Fudd
and sinister diabolical villain, Like allthis stuff is happening here. This is
fantastic, right. I think thatwould have it would have won him over,
because again, this is you know, this is the the top tier
(02:09:13):
you know, football club that justscored five goals on us at the end
there, you know, it's like, yeah, it is, it's the
it's the fantastic, uh, thefantastic underdogs coming through and proving to everybody
that there's life in them. They'reexploding gas stations or rather no life,
(02:09:33):
the end of life. But Ido, I do imagine, and maybe
this is like I see Matt,I see so many If I was Belushi's
agent, I see so many avenuesfor him, I'd be like, look
the Discovery thing with you growing partand going down to South America, and
hanging out with Dan Akbert and beinga blues brother. That was cute for
(02:09:54):
like five minutes, but nobody's watchingit anymore. Come back to me.
I have a series. I havenot just one career path for you,
but several, because I'd also liketo see Belushi become the Ammet Walsh of
his generation, meaning not big partsanymore. But he just crops up as
(02:10:16):
like a grubby gas station attendant ora liquor store owner or the barman at
the end of the universe, likewell, you know, like the barman
at the end of the world orwhatever, you know, showing up in
a David Lynch dream singgrets whatever,like the am Emet wallsh of his Generally,
he just crops up in all thisfucking stuff. But it's just like
when's the blushy cameo coming. It'slike, when's the Ammet Wash cameo coming?
(02:10:39):
Right? So I see that careerpath for him. I see the
like renaissance of Blushi with either likehe's the last, like Tarantino's casting his
tenth and final film, and youknow he's really redone the careers of Pam
(02:11:00):
Grea, Robert Forster, John Travoltaraised Samuel L. Jackson into the A
list. Blah blah blah blah blah. His The final trick the Devil ever
pulled was putting Jim Belushi as thelead in the Tarantino movie that starts the
Belushi Renaissance, where Belushi goes onto do a series of dramatic comedy like
(02:11:26):
dramatic comedic character actor as a leadingrole kind of part. He does like
three or four and everyone like applaudshim, and then by about the fifth
secty like okay. The other wouldbe the Where's Anderson Renaissance? Yes,
yeah, yeah, it's either Tarantino, Rodriguez or Wes Anderson who's going to
(02:11:46):
put him in? Or maybe PaulThomas Anderson, although I fucking can't stand
him, Like fuck that movie?What was that movie he made with the
fucking pop group in it? Thatthe Vinyl thing? Spaghetti banket, licorice
pizza. Woh, Matt so angry. It makes me so angry to think
(02:12:13):
of that movie. That movie makesme want to find small ury creatures and
end their existence just because that movieexists. It's just so bad. It's
so bad. Should be called spaghettiBanker. Yeah, I saw that other
(02:12:35):
foot of the streamers, and Iwas like, do I want to watch
ex it's Paul Thomas Anderson. It'snever got a round to it. But
if it was called spaghetti banker,it would no more make any more sense
than it being called licorice pizza,right, Like liquorice peach, I know,
means vinyl record and it's the nameof a vinyl record store in the
valley in California. Blah blah blahblah blah. Do you know where they
never go in the hole of themovie. You know what? It's not
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even mentioned once in the movie.Do you know man? That at no
point. I don't think even vinylrecords get a name check in the film.
The film is about waterbeds. Waterbeds, That's what the film is about.
It's about a creepy young girl anolder guy, or is it a
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creepy young boy and an older woman. I don't know which one it is,
But either way, creepy older andyounger teenagers doesn't make it. It
doesn't. It's not edgy, Paul. Make them the same age and get
on with it. You either wantedto fuck or you don't. And I
don't care, so just to geton with it, right, get out
stop it, Paul, I've hadit, that's the first thing. Secondly,
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it's about waterbeds boring. Nobody cares. Why is it not about vinyl
records where you call it fucking liquorstreets boring? Paul, stop it.
I've had enough. Right, itjust goes on. How do you get
Tom Waits to in your film andmake it bad? Tom Waits has never
been bad. Tom Waits has donethat, has ever been compromising anyway,
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told until he went fucking Thomas Anderson. Right, yeah, because I think
with my rant aboutice trousers or whateverit's called. But the blue shy Wes
Anderson thing. I think with theblue like I'm seeing like this, I
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see like the Jack Nicholson when hehad his kind of renaissance, but he
was doing things like like about Schmidand stuff like that. It's just like
his face on the you know,like like blue. You know Bill Murray,
like I think they're living to anotherBill Murray is. I guess he's
canceled. I don't know what's what'sgoing on with Bill Murray, but I
don't know. There's okay, Sohe's not that canceled. But but maybe
he's canceled enough. The blue shecould come in and be yes, I
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think Wes Anderson won't use him anymore, so he could use Blushy when he
needs. I think, yes,I agree with you. I think I
think this is an idea we've hadalready, and I agree with him.
I think it's a beautiful idea becauseI have to say asteroid city. He
had Tom Hanks and Steve Carrell.He was trying to fill that Bill Murray
void, and he was like,let me put both Steve Carrell and Tom
Hanks. I think Matt he overdidit. He overdid it. It was
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one corral too far. It wastoo far, It was too many spots
in the spotted dick. It wastoo much custard on flat right. So
those are all analogies, Matt.It was except and I think that what
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cancels out the too muchness of aSteve Carrell and Tom Hanks count combo is
a Blushy that's just straight down themiddle. It's enough out of left field
that people are like, according toJim smokes Pot Discovery Guy, like immediately
people are like, what's next?The guy from the Aliens show who's always
saying like, it's Aliens in amovie. Yes, he could be in
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a movie. That guy who doesunfunny tiktoks about working retail jobs, He's
in a fucking movie. The guywho's like, do you know I don't
want to be here at work today? I'm like, how is this funny?
And he's got a Korea Matt.He's in films. He does stand
up, goes around the country showingpeople his angry retail clerk stick that is
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literally the oldest stick in the entirebook. Matt. And he is in
Cocaine Bear. Where is this worldgoing? Matt? Yeah, I mean
essentially that stick is what made Dilbertright. That's the only it wasn't retail,
that was you know, office,but it was the same, the
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same thing, and somehow it's Iguess that's what it is. Is like,
Dilbert right is a thing and everybody'slike, oh, Dilbert's great,
Dilbrit's great, and then they theythink it's funny, and then like in
two thousand, that's the one thatthey forget that there was a Dilbert.
It's like every once in a whilethey'll see like a thing like, oh,
that's Dilbert. I remember that,right that cart When I used to
read the newspaper, I would seethe funnies or whatever. Right, it's
like the name of the Garfield generation. And for a brief shining moment,
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especially as an orange pan of moxysubject herself, Garfield was a Garfield was
everywhere. He was stuck at thecar windows, he was on T shirts,
he had special on TV. Hewas in everyone's Christmas stocking. It
was some form of Garfield book,which was the laziest gift apparent ever.
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Oh you know that Catty sometimes chucklesout in the newspaper. Fine, find
the book of that'll do, right. But then it's like a child twenty
years later standing over them with abloody axe being like, give me on
Garfield punctual your mother anyway, sir. But but you're right, because like
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then Garfield kind of disappears or Dilbertdisappears, and suddenly these kids find it.
They start doing TikTok and they're like, hey, here's my orange cat
doing goofy ship like eating lasagna.Don't you kids think this is funny?
And all these kids were like,that's hilarious. And then we look at
them, we're like your cats,your cart's garfield, you know where.
It's like you're just doing Dilbert ona TikTok. It's not that, it's
not that, but all these kidswere like, I never heard of Dilbert.
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You know, he was canceled longbefore the creator was canceled, before
I got a chance to you knowor whatever. And it's like, you
know, they canceled the creator ofdilbat. Yeah he was. He was
a kind of a he was abad trumper. I think he was racist.
If you go back into his history, he was. Actually he was
featured on Behind the Bastards. Theyyou're like, oh, you know,
the creator of Dilbert. He wasa massive jump and something. You a
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racist? Yeah, he was abit of a wow, he claimed.
He claimed it wasn't the fact thathe was inapt at his job that he
didn't get promotions, but the factthat he was white. He said multiple
times that, well, my myboss has told me they'd promote me,
but because I'm white, they don'twant to. They have to promote this
this black woman instead. That's thekind of stuff he would say. People
were like, right, like horrible, stupid dog whistle nonsense, right exactly.
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That was the end. It wasjust like it got to be so
much that they were just like thenewspapers were like, we can't put your
comics in this newspaper. Like Ithink he has a pool shaped like Dilbert's
head. Like that was how richthe comic made him that he could he
could have a mansion in la witha pool with Dilbert said, oh he
did is just not be racist.But I guess when you're racist, you
don't have any choice. You're you'regonna be racist, right, you gotta
do you gotta do racist things becauseit's just been a millionaire. Listen,
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Jeff, you can have your Dilbertshaped pool, all right, just go
just go dial down the racism.And by the way, it's America,
so you've only got to die downlike thirty percent, Like you haven't even
got to go like a full signpercent. You know, some occasional funny
accents people get away with that.Steven Sigall gets all the time. Stephen
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Skull literally has a blues rock songwhere he sings in a Jamaican accent about
one thing, the po nani that'sthe thing that actually exists. I didn't
make no out that's the thing thatexists. So we live in in America.
Well, look, all you haveto do is maybe not say racist
shit in public. You can sayit behind closed doors as long as all
days long. You can draw littleswastikas on Dilbert's desk that you know you
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can only see if you've got acertain kind of subliminal racist mind, go
right ahead, do whatever it feelsgood. But like, that's all we're
asking thirty percent less racism, andyou've got yourself a Dilbert shaped pool.
But he was like, God,I'm sorry, I've got to go one
hundred percent racist. Just there's nowhen you start dabbling in the racism game,
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Matt, there there is no halves. It's you know, once you've,
once you've decided in your head tobe a you know, xenophobic bigot
simply because you don't understand that theworld is a diverse and wondrous place,
then you've got to go all hardon it. You've got to go the
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four hundred percent. There's no halfpasting racism, Matt. I think we've
learned that those racism are doomed torepeat it, I believe anyway, So
now we fixed the whole world's problems. How about that movie coming from the
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underdog position and winning the day?That was wonderful. I you know,
it's funny because I think with thethe other Volushi films we've watched so far,
it's almost worked in the other directionwhere we you know, I would
say the first one trace of theRed was just kind of consistently what it
was throughout. I don't know thatit started. It started in the place
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and it ended in a place,and I think we all know what happened
between the two pollows exactly. Ithink that the Jim Pittock screenwriting, I
think, combined with the polucy acting, I think with the Lorraine Brucco like
drug a cameo, is the argumovie I ever make. I want to
be in the film. Oh allright, go on. I mean,
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I don't know what to make ofSeparate Lives like that movie. Yeah right,
yeah, that was like sexy whenwhen it wanted to be action packed
and and action packed when it wantedto be sexy, and it was and
and not really very much of either. Like I'm just saying it was there
wasn't much of it, and whatthere was was wrong exactly. It was
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just like Linda Hamilton being like,I did so I want to do something
other than Terminator, and everybody saying, okay, do something other than Terminator,
and then it was just kind oflike just keep doing Terminator, like
that's just you know. She brieflydabbled Matt for a little moment in the
Pool of the Blush, and muchlike the creator of dilb was left was
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left out in the cold and forcedto sell a blushy pool and go back
to the much more affluent waters ofyou know, Robot Apocalypse. I feel
like that would be the biggest Belushiwin for all the money that he made
from according to Jim, you know, being on the Red, you know,
like if he just got a poolwith his head, you know,
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just been like, I finally madeit. I finally you know, all
these bad movies that I did inthe nineties where I was just struggling to
get a paycheck where you know,you know, whatever it was, I
was just taking whatever role I couldget. I finally get on a sitcom
where I'm this this schlubby America's dadkind of character. Yeah, I'm names
on the top of the bill.I get tons of money for this role,
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while all the other people are consideredguest stars and don't get paid anything.
I'm going to make a pool withmy head shape as the you know,
with all the money that I've got. And isn't it weird? Man?
Because he would either make a poolin the shape of his own head,
or I think he would do twopools. I think he would do
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one. Second, I'm gonna sneeze, but sorry, sorry about that,
dude, No, no, worries, hang on. So he would do
two pools. He would do onepool shaped like his and the dog who
played Jerry Lee's head like a cannine pool. He would have a canine
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pool, and then he would havehim and Dan ackroid pool like like like
Blues Brothers, almost like he's tryingto completely replace his brother. Yeah,
I'm sorry, I'm getting that midnightsneezing thing happening to me again, Worries.
Yeah, I never thought about that, but you're right, You're right,
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like the the Blues Brother's pool withlike and like when you swim in
the pool, there's speakers around itthat just play like bad blues music of
just like like, it's not evenyeah, it's not even the original Blues
Brothers. It's Jim Belushi's cover band, version of a cover band, version
of a Blues Brother's pack. Andhe's like yeah, and he invites dan
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Acroid around, and dan Ackroyd isforced to sit there while like a bunch
of sixty year old like construction workersin Jim Belushi's band murder all the songs
that dan Akroyd stole from other musiciansand made famous, and Danakha was just
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forced to sit there and stare intothe pool as the abyss. Because dan
Akroid realizes he made this. Thisis his fault, This is his fault.
He encouraged it, he enabled it, he made it possible. He
danced and shit on the grave ofJim Belush, of John Belush by putting
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Jim Belushi as the new Blues brotherand touring with him and giving him a
cup of the Prophets and everything likethat, right, I mean, John
Belushi is doing fucking Tornado twirls inhis grave. Also, it's the bizarre
that with the Ghostbusters franchise and allhis vodka money and his paranormal investigating the
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Danakroyd millionaire Danakroyd, you know,multiple franchises under his belt, you know
whatever, married to Donna Dixon,which is just like like just insane,
just insane. It's just because there'slike Heather Locklear and Donna Dixon, like
they're like they are the two blondeeighties American totems of gorgeousness, right right,
(02:26:48):
you got them together and Akroid getsDixon like and it works like they're
still together. Like it's it justyou know what I mean, Like she
can't like money that much, youknow what I mean, she gotta put
up a riding around on a fuckingmotorbike like he's twenty years old, trying
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to wedge leather jacket over his enormousgut, walking around talking like you know,
dan Akroid was one of those volunteerdeputies in like the town he lived
in up in the Midwest. Sodan Acroid likes Stephen Cigar. They have
that in common. They pretended tobe a cup while real cups stood around
(02:27:35):
and went, well, we gotto do this for a week. Then
well, dan Acrod's talking about fuckingpop car engines and shit like. Well,
back in the seventies, we usedto bunch of cups sat around being
like, Jesus Christ, we gotto put up with Akroid pretending to be
(02:27:58):
a policeman for a month. Jesusweat uh. But like Donald Dixon still
is with that man, and youyou would think that, you know,
he's hitched his wagon to the Ghostbusterstrain. He's like, well, look,
as long as you're going to startplundering my back catalog, at least
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give me a slice of the pie. And you're like, all right,
that makes sense, Achroid, I'llgive you that. But then I watched
the Discovery Channel Blushy Growing Belushi orwhatever it's called, with the part and
everything, and Akroyd's in like everyother episode, and I'm like, why
is Achroid hitching his wagon to Belushi'spart tray? Does he really think that
(02:28:45):
Belushi is going to be like theElon Musk of Park Suddenly, Belushi's pulling
down bellies because they've overestimated vastly howmany people still know and give a shit
about the Blues Brothers. I mean, I loved, like, I loved
the Blues Brothers until I got aboutinto my mid to late twenties and went
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enough of that, just enough ofthat. It doesn't mean I don't go
back to the original movie, whichis awesome occasionally, but I'm not putting
non briefcase full of blues instead,I'm going to actual blues music and listen
right right right, Well, I'mgrown up. Matt. You know he
owns those like House of Blues anyway, Oh he sold them. I remember
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in Boston on one of the sportschannels, nesson, because they were trying
to fill programming, they would dolike this whole like night life in Boston
programming thing, which was just obnoxiousbecause there's there's just people had each other
across exactly my life in Boston.It's another pit. Fine, get out
of here, your fucking batstard,I'll kill you. But but no,
(02:29:52):
but like they would like have celebritieslike you're like Ben Affleck would be there
and he'd be like, oh,I love they called it dirty Water TV's
like, oh, I love thatDirty Water. But they had Dan Akroyd
do it like some some event,like some charity event at the House of
Blue I guess he still owned atthe time, and he's like, I
love that Dirty Water TV. Andhe was like he was just so excited
that they were like, oh,we need a celebrity. Oh there's Dana.
You didn't me. You want todo the spot? Can you give
(02:30:16):
me twenty minutes. I've just wantedanother vat potato skins. Done his third
vat of House of Blue Potato skins. I just can't get enough. Non
addiction is like, yes, keepeating them, damn. Maybe you'll fucking
die soon and I'll be able tofinally run off with Rob Low, which
(02:30:39):
would make fucking sense. There's notaddition of Rob Blow. You're like,
okay, that I understand right,it must have you know, he must,
he must. There must be somethingthat the Acroyds bringing to the table
that we don't We in the publicdon't see that. There's there's an Akroyd.
There's there's a public facing Akroyd,and then there's a behind the scenes
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Ackroyd that Donna Dixon can't can't quit. Yeah, yeah, we don't know
about it. Shannon tweeds with GeneSimmons on and off forever, and I
mean he just looks like a pollock. He just looks like a test to
go with a wig on it.He I mean, his even in his
wildest dreams, he was never anattractive man, you know what I mean.
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Listen, I look at someone likea Tom Jones or whatever, and
I go, I don't get it. I don't get why women went like
back in the fifties and sixties,why women went crazy for Tom Jones.
But I also look at it,I go, but that's fine, that's
probably like a woman. But GeneSimmons, you look at him, even
in his so called prime, Youlook at him and you go, I
just really, Jeene Simmons, helooks like a potato with a fucking bit
(02:31:50):
of pubic. Like he looks likea Pubes dog. Pubes have fallen onto
a potato and they've gone, youknow whatever, That's what he looks like.
And Shannon Tweed, you know again, she's more nineties and eighties but
still one of those quint essential Americanblonde beauties, Shannon Tweed, And she's
(02:32:11):
just like sure Jean Simmons, Herand Donnad Dixon probably have like a self
care groups the other thing out likeNostril, Haroon and Cloud Well, because
I think she's from Newfoundland, ShannonTweed. But the thing is they never
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got married, so it's not likeshe married him for a green card or
something. Like that to become anAmerican citizen. You know, she would
you if you could be a Canadiancitizen, right right? Yeah, yeah,
the Shannon Tweed and they even hadtheir own reality show where they had
the kids and everything, and itwas just like in the reality show,
you're looking at them and you're like, yeah, I mean, I don't
(02:32:54):
know if you know, like ifthe therapist or whatever they're doing marriage counseling,
was just like, whatever happens here, I'm you know, I'm I'm
step We need to go all theway back to why it ever happened once?
Right alone? Yeah, yeah,I was gonna say, was there
(02:33:18):
a party at the Playboy mansion?Maybe she had a little too much champagne
and looks better? What the fuckwith all the people fucking Hugh Hena,
you know what I mean? AndI'm on a certain point, Like at
a certain point you start to golike, what, like it can't all
be men's right, I get it. You have to pawfule Rich. I'm
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sure he was a ship to mostof those women, et cetera, et
cetera. Right, No, I'mnot falling on the side of Hugh Hefna,
But unless he was changing those womenup every night, and he might
well have been changing them up everynight. I don't know if we are
to assume that even one or twoof them are there entirely. That says
a whole lot. It says awhole lot that you can't explain away with
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well men, now, I'm I'mon the women's side. Theresten ninety eight
point nine percent of the time onthe women's side. But fucking Gene Simmons,
Dachroid, and you have no whatthe what are we talking here?
Like what's going on? I thinkquestion after one, I think question no.
But I think the Hugh after oneactually more because I think those women
(02:34:28):
I don't think they thought they weregonna I think they thought it was like
a show marriage kind of thing,and then when they discovered that he actually
wanted to have sex with them,it was like, oh, okay,
well I didn't plan all this,Like like I think in their cases they
thought that was like they you know, like the Danoid don't know anything about
them, no, but like theDanachroid and and in this you know,
(02:34:48):
the Simmons one, it's like yeah, like yeah, like those ones are
like legit because like those women arethere because they want to be with these
men, and and they weren't duped. It wasn't like you know, listen
lists there is a simwhere day andAcroyd said, let's pretend to be married.
And then, oh, why don'tyou have a brother who's all into
the supernatural ship Peter Acroid? Whatif you put like a hex on Donald
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Dixon like he was. They werejust watching some ghost story or whatever at
night, and then Peter Ackroyd poppedup behind the couch and just went She
was like, Peter, I goaway, And then suddenly was trying to
stick on Dan Ackroyd and was like, whatever you want me to do,
Master, I am in your thrall. Dann was like, well, dumb
(02:35:31):
Pete, I don't know what youdid, but that worked the treat.
Maybe that's what happened. Maybe itwas Peter the reality. Yeah, it
makes much more sense than reality.Well, sir, this has been a
thrill, two and a half hoursof sheer delight. It's it's wonderful that
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we still have things to say aboutthe Great Jim Belution and will continue to
have things to say about the GreatJim Belushi. I don't know when we'll
do this again, hopefully next week. But who knows. My schedule fills
up quicker than a toddler's urinal.But I don't know why that's even a
thing, all right, I justcame up with that. I just assume
(02:36:16):
toddler's pee a lot, you knowwhat I mean, they consume a lot,
so they peel. That's what I'massuming. Well, they all have
UTIs. I have no idea anyway. At that point, I don't know
what's going on. Somebody stuff gaveme a microphone and a computer and said
there were people out there. Talkto them. Anyway, Matt, this
(02:36:41):
has been a thrill. Thank youvery much, sir. We will do
this again as soon and everyone followdirector video Connoisseur on or DTVC Connoisseur on
Facebook and Instagram and Twitter, andby Matt's books on Amazon. So there
might be an issue with the booksbecause uh so this is my most recent
(02:37:05):
why Bainbridge. But I'm about toput out a new book and the problem
with it is, let's if Ican show you here. I got the
proof copy of it, and uhyeah, you know, the titles are
dots, a bunch of random dots. It wasn't rendering the fonts properly.
So I think I fixed the problemand I'm waiting for the proofs to come.
(02:37:26):
But hopefully I'm gonna have a newnovel out soon, like in the
next like a week or two,called Don's House in the Mountains. It's
like the third my author cycle,so after a Girl and the gun Holtman
Arms, this is kind of thethird kind of final ish act. It
should be out this I was hopingto have it out this week, but
the font issue was there, soI think, yeah, another I mean
(02:37:46):
two Matt Poorian books in one year. That is a bounty of riches.
I'm very excited my collection. I'mgoing to show everyone. Hang on one
second, see I have the fullset. Yes, now, guess what
(02:38:16):
is happening here with the full set. I'm putting out new new copies soon
that have images on the covers.Oh no, I've gotta buy them all
over again. No you don't haveto buy them all over again. No,
you've already bought the can buy themall over again? But I won
the varying covers, Matt, Okay, but I gotta. I got a
(02:38:37):
Canvas account and learned how to makecovers and learn how to make designs and
stuff. And I was like,but again, same thing, the font
issue was there. So so that'salso the thing too. If you buy
my books now, I don't knowif the font issue is going to be
there, so hoping to get itfixed. Like again, we're gonna see
how this true proof copy comes.But but yeah, you know, in
your case, I can get youthe author's copy. I could just buy
(02:38:58):
author copy and send them to you, but because you've already bought them,
you know, so I want toget the variant covers. Frain Bridge is
going to have a variant cover orso I'm working on a smaller pulp version
kind of cover. So I'm stillworking on it, but it's like it's
gonna be like kind of a smallersize, like so you know, you
see this size here, I'm gonnatry to shrink it to the kind of
(02:39:20):
a mass market paperback size and likeand so yeah and so and then I'm
one of the things that canvas isyou could do like AI images. So
I put it like nineties detective andgot a kind of a cool image and
stuff like that, so kind ofput it together and hopefully I'll have that
again that's gonna be a little furtherdown the road, but I'm hoping to
have that ladies and gems not payingreal artists and coming to the lure of
(02:39:46):
AI. If people buy my books, I will start paying Fiber. Also,
I get more people buy my books, I'll start start contacting fiber right
now, fifteen camera a month.Yeah, people, you understand this.
I'll eat organic when someone fucking justgives me some money. Until then,
(02:40:09):
allie twinkies and dog shit, andI'll like it, you know what I
mean. And so look, paycuff up, coff up. You go
to fucking Starbucks. I know youdo. I know you do. This.
Person not watching this right now butpossibly watching it in the future,
you go to Starbucks and you go, oh, I'll just get a little
(02:40:31):
cake and all maybe an eggy nibble, and oh, a fucking five gallon
cup of fucking coffee and caramel andcoconut and horseshit. And then when the
barista goes down'll be thirty two dollarsforty eight cents. You don't bat an
eyelid. But if Matt tries tosell his books for a few quid on
(02:40:52):
Amazon, everyone's ah, I don'tknow that I have spared ten dollars to
buy that. He wrote What HaveYou Done with Your Life? He wrote
a book buyer, his book YourPastard, instead of spending thirty dollars at
fucking Starbucks. They even pay tax. They haven't paid tax. I don't
(02:41:13):
even think of that. That's agood point. Like one of these books
is they're twelve to thirty nine.I you know, that's a that's a
trip to Starbucks. That's yeah,great. And most people going to Starbucks,
they're going to get on the subway, or they're going to get in
their car, or they're going toThey're spending money, Matt, left and
right, up and down, leavingtheir thermostats on when it's fifty degrees outside
(02:41:37):
like a Barbie fifty degrees people bow, I'm just going to put seventy degrees
on in the office building. Thesepeople are living a life for luxury.
But you you go, I knowsomeone who wrote a book, who writes
books. Georgia R. R.Martin can't even finish his fucking series.
(02:41:58):
You know what I mean? Anyway, you write books, Matt, you're
up there with Tolstoy and Dylan Thomasand Williams. She I mean you write
books, books, people on paperbooks, not just one many books.
Uh, this is impressive and peopleshould pay for it. There is a
(02:42:20):
there is a wild and I getin trouble for saying this, but there
is a wild inaccuracy right now.That's happening. Right. So you have
people who will spend an enordan amountof money on a on a corporate thing
a Starbucks and Amazon or whatever,right without batting an eland. Even though
everything's getting smaller, the service isgetting worse and the money is getting more
(02:42:43):
expensive. So the worse service,smaller product, people are still buying it
in droves. Right. Then onthe other end of the spectrum, you've
got the people who are going onto Etsy or you know, Facebook,
Marketplace, whatever and buying something thatwas oh, this was lovingly handmade and
the Cotswolds with some sheep diarrhea andsome hay and some whatever, and I
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fashioned it into a thing and paintedit or whatever. And then they go,
so I'm selling this thing, thisthis like found art or whatever for
you know, five hundred and sixtyeight dollars on Etsy. And when and
when people go, why is itso expected? Like why is that mug
you just made I get it.You made a mug and you did pottery
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and stuff. But like, right, you did pottery, but that's what
you like to do, Like that'swhat that's what you're good at. Like
they're like, whoa, you know, it took me a long time to
do it, right, but youwere enjoying doing it. Like it's not
like you're like, oh fuck,why did I decide to be a potter?
I hate? Right? So anyway, they go, well, it
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costs so much because it takes solong. Right, But if you make
a movie, Matt, that involvesfifty people, even a low budget movie
like the ones I'm in, right, it involves fifty people shooting over multiple
months, right after writing the scriptyourself, shooting it yourself, editing it
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yourself, scoring yourself, acting init yourself right for months and months and
months and months and months, andyou tie it all up and then you
have to go through all the hoopsthat are required to put it on Amazon
or two B or whatever, thatit has to be a certain quality,
it has to have subtitles, ithas to have all this blah blah blah
blah blah. You spend all thatmoney, Matt, thousand dollars, hundreds
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of hours, hundreds and hundreds andhundreds of hours. The guy who's made
the mug, that's charging four hundreddollars for the mug because he dribbled a
bit of gold leaf in it whilehe was firing it off in the oven.
That guy, ow, you know, it took me a long time
to make it. He's made athousand mugs in the time that the people
have made this movie. And ifyou put it up on Vimeo and ask
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someone to pay eight dollars for it, they fuck and won't. But a
guy's like, well, you know, I made a mug. Well,
of course, because that's what youdo, you you make mugs. Like
what, well, it takes toolong and you don't enjoy doing it.
Stop. But it's not even theVimeo piece, right, it's like,
hey, this movie's on to bjust watch it and have the ad watch
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it through and give you know,and and that's all you have to do
is just just put it on yourTV and let it roll and get that
person of view. And even thatthey're like, no, there's a New
Disney like plus Marvel show that Idon't really wanted to ditch. I don't
have time. He's done a liveaction version of Leilo and Stitch. Can
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we rest Bright the cown please?A live action version of made up characters?
Right? Not even animals, arethey? They're just like made up
god Tuoni right? Some of themare animals, some of them So I
think I think they did a lionKing one that was animals, so I
think it was not right. Butthe Lion King is animals. But and
Stench meant to be actual animals becausethey don't know what right exactly what I'm
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saying, how is it live action? What you mean is you've cgid something
that you would formerly painted. Infact, they probably Matt nowadays with AI
whatever. You could probably just runit through. Probably don't even have to
have CGI designers anymore. Probably justrun it through a thing that goes yeah,
yeah whatever, live action whatever.Anyway, Yeah, well we joined
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us. Kyle. You guys arestill going through blush heads. We've been
off Bluchi for like teny minutes.He said, Disney needs to do porn.
That's right. You know what itis that Disney's done is that they
saw when Roger Corman had blood Fistand then he remade it with full contact.
Right, someone Disney watched blood Fist, that's right, and then they
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watched Full Cott. They were like, wait, Roger Corman's a genius.
He just had a movie and heremade it again. Why don't we do
the same thing with all of ourprime So wait a second, we can
make a cartoon with a little mermaidand then we can just do a live
action movie of it and everybody willgo watch it again. Well, you
know what's just do that? Youknow what it's also about, though,
So a lot of these titles Disneyscooped up when they were no longer in
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copyright, right right Exactly, theyget hold of like Winnie the Pooh and
all the Sleeping Beauty and all thesethings, and then the copyright refreshes on
the Disney version. But if youdon't do a new version every fifty years
or whatever it is, thirty years, fifty years, whatever it is,
the copyright can fade out. Sothey are doing another wave of all their
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famous things to keep keep the copyrightroll in it. That makes sense,
Yeah, that makes sense to it. I think that's what I happened.
Kyle is asking waiting on the pornversion of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. I
think listen, anytime you get andthe Lansbury, is it Angela Lansbury or
is it Julian is bed knobs andbroomstick? That's right, that's right.
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Julie Andrews and Dick Van Dyke.Anytime you get Julie Andrews and Dick Van
Dyke in a movie together, that'spawn on its own. I don't know
what what would the porn vote.The porn version would be less fun than
the original, I think, rightright, it's poor enough exactly. Yes,
I don't know that it is.Julie Andrews, is Mary Poppins,
right, Marry Poppins? And who'sthe woman in? Uh what? Yeah?
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What is going on here? I'vegot I don't know. Chitty Chitty
Brain Bank, Yeah, Sally AnnHowes? Who's Sally and Howes? No
idea? No Chitty Bang Bank wastwo and a half hours long. Yeah,
and it was written by the guy, same guy who wrote James Bond
So the same guy who wrote Jamesbond On, the same guy who wrote
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Total in the Chocolate Factory. No, Charlie in the Tcoal Factory was well
dull, That's what I mean.They both they're co writers on it.
Oh yes, I Chitty right,guess as well? Yeah, but yeah
Sally and House that's who played Irecognize and yeah she did. You know
what I mean? There we go. You got there for the twelve minutes
(02:49:18):
to twelve tone on the name ofit. Now, what was I saying
before? I forget what I wassaying before. Yeah, I think we're
talking about people spending money. I'mtelling you. This is something that you
taught me. This is something youyou've expressed, you stressed to me,
I don't know, however long ago, and it's something that I kind of
(02:49:39):
keep working on. I keep myhead. You know. It's like,
okay, you know, whether it'ssomebody who has a Kickstarter for a movie,
here's ten bucks for the movie.It's like I can't afford a lot
of money, but here's ten bucks, you know, And it's like if
I if everybody just says ten bucks, that's what I've got. Certainly the
movie gets made. And these peoplethat you know are trying to push something
and make something happen, can makeit happen. But also the thing is,
(02:50:01):
and this is I can say forme with my books or you with
your music and whatever it is thatwe have. Right, if you buy,
right, if you buy, ifyou go to Starbucks and you buy
a coffee, right, all you'redoing is just making the person who's working
there a little bit busier, Right, That's really all you're doing, And
you're putting money in the hands ofthe CEO and all those people. But
if you buy somebody's book or youbuy their album on band camp or whatever
(02:50:22):
it is, when they go totheir yeah and like they're going to go
to their account and see a salewas made that day and it is like
a huge bonus, or like they'regonna go to their kickstart and see that
they got more money into their kickstarter, and like the joy that the people
(02:50:43):
get from that, the people thatare the creators, that they get from
that, it is absolutely amazing.And I hope somebody stuck in their But
that's that is. I think thatthat's the way to think of it.
When you're spending your money is thinkabout like where it's gonna go. But
Kyle car right now, in hiscar there's a house centipede that are particularly
(02:51:05):
gruesome purple blooded alien monsters that crawlup the wall, and he can't get
out of his car, so hetrapped listening to us. Well, Kyle,
as a public service, will keeptalking until you get out of your
car. Are you living in Australia? Are they like really big nasty He's
in Ohio. Oh okay, butthey still have big nasty centipedes in Ohio.
(02:51:28):
Is it like one of those likesilverfish? We get these gross silverfish
here in Philly. I don't knowif you get that's maybe the same thing.
Yeah, they have like fifteen legslike they have They have like two
few legs and too many legs allat once, right, and they've got
these big Yeah, their skins liketranslucent and you can see like their purple
(02:51:50):
blood. Oh no, no,no, no, we don't have those
here. I don't think. Ohdude, they are horrifying. They are
like Clive Barker threw up on Gregnickeot or something like. They are horrifying.
I was in Indiana. Sorry notokay, Yeah, Ohio. Why
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don't I always think? I alwaysthink of Ohio when I think of Kyle,
which is most unfortunate because I fuckinghate Ohio. So I'm glad he's
in Indiana because Indiana is a muchbetter place. To be. I've never
been to Indiana. Been to Ohio, but never to Indiana. Yeah,
Ohio is terrible. Uh. Youknow that scene in the movie that we
just watched about an hour ago wherea coup came out of nowhere and pulled
(02:52:35):
a guy over for doing seventy onan empty road. That's that's Ohio.
Like that is that is that isthe explanation of Ohio is lonely bored cops
fucking up people's day. So,now, were you in the Southern park
That's where I was. When Iwas there was in the southern part,
like the Cincinnati area. I drovethrough a eight so into Ohio and Pennsylvania.
(02:53:01):
Okay, yeah, yeah. Myfriends one was an environmental science major,
there was a bio major. Theyreally wanted to go to the creationism
museum that's in Lake Kentucky and there, and they're like, you got to
come with us, man. Iwas like, okay, I'll come with
you. I didn't sit on thetrice serratops like they did. They got
pictures themselves sitting on the trice aratops. But it was it was quite quite
a trip. It was quite Howcan it be a creationist museum if there
(02:53:24):
were triceratops. There are no ideasin the Bible. Did they think that
the that there were trice eratops thatlived with humans in around six thousand BC
or whatever it is that? Butwhy didn't anyone mention it in the Bible?
I think dragons or something. Idon't know. Are there dragons in
the Bible. I don't know.I don't think there's dragons in the Bible.
(02:53:45):
I mean there's a lot of likeburning bushes and angels and shit,
but I don't think there were dragonlike not just not like, well,
we're walking along and oh look there'sthe dragon. Apparently, Dyle says,
the Creationist Museum is governmentally funded.We see. That's the first thing I
(02:54:07):
would I would do away with ifI was if you vote, if you
vote me in next time, I'mnot even allowed to run for president,
Matt. I'm not even for thefact I was born in England. I'm
not even a citizen anyway. Ifyou vote me in in November, I
will get rid of all monies goingto any form of religion whatsoever. So
(02:54:33):
uh, that's that's that's how Ifeel about that, Matt. So yes,
I don't know what I was talkingabout anymore. I've lost I've jumped
into the quagmire of improv. Matt, I'm thinking fast. I think when
(02:54:54):
you start talking about dinosaurs in theBible, that was that was my bed.
We got into Ohio and that's theonly time I've ever beendo or Io
before. Yeah, because it's likejust south of Cincinnati. You go into
Kentucky. At the point that youknow when Nameath is begatting carrot, who's
begatting Joshumael, who's begatting whatever?I don't think at any point anyone begets
(02:55:18):
a pterodactyl. I don't think that'sanything that happens. Carl is asking will
we fund his movie that he's wantedto make Forever Date Great Bracula. Yeah,
I mean, Kyle, if youset up a gofund me page,
Matt and I have promised to giveit ten dollars each. Yeah, for
(02:55:39):
sure. And I don't even needany perks. Yeah, you know I
don't need don't give me perks.In fact, the less perks than enough
of perks. Everyone's looking for aperk. If you're going to give me
money, and then I've got todrum up a perk. Out of somewhere
that that's money that negates you givemoney, don't keep the DVD, keep
(02:56:00):
the DVD copy of it. Justi'll you know, I'll buy, I'll
rent it whatever it comes out fromnow on my Patreon channel. Nobody gets
anything. Just give me fucking moneyfor this, for this, for the
entertainment. That's that's why you're givingme the money. I'm sorry, did
we get confused? Like I lovePatreon and everything, but it is a
case where they're like, well,to really be a successful patron, along
(02:56:22):
with the content you're already creating,along with that, create all this other
subsidiary content and give it away forfree to people who have maybe given you
a dollar. Fuck that. Nomore of this, no more of that.
Kyl loves it when I get ona Kyl's a big fan. When
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I got on a ram where Istart just declaring things, no more declaring
things ridiculous. Don't you love it, Kyle? Tell me you love it?
Kyle. I love this idea ofit being the greatest courtroom drama since
twelve Rounds. So it's gonna belike William Kennedy Smith from the William Kennedy
Smith Sexual Harassment trial. You youprobably probably don't remember this, uh uh,
(02:57:05):
John, because this would have beenlike the late eighties early nineties.
I think it was Ted Kennedy hadto testify. It was like one of
the ken It was like a Kennedycompound in Florida, and there's a woman
who claimed that she was I don'tthink she was date rape, but she
was sexually harassed. And there's awhole trial and like Ted Kennedy. No,
yeah, I remember like Howard stirredat this whole routine where he dressed
(02:57:26):
up like like like Ted Kennedy said, like a shirt on it in his
like boxers and and he was likedoing this whole routine. He was like,
rah, I was just trying toget the boys laid. What's let's
I don't understand the big deal.It was like this whole he had like
like the jowls like attached to hisface and all that stuff. But because
he said, you said a SaturdayNight show, Howard Starer, But I'm
seeing Kyle's date rape Dracula as likea remake of the William Kennedy Smith Trial,
(02:57:50):
but only with with vampires. Yeah, and and possibly with uh with
Al Jankovic and Howardston playing all theparts exactly with a cameo by Rick Moranas.
Kyle, let us know on thehouse centipede situation. Are you out
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of the car, Kyle? Areyou safe? Did you make it to
freedom and safety and warm beds andhot glasses of whiskey? Or is he
dead? Get him? Yeah?I always see these clips of people living
(02:58:35):
in Australia where they just get thesebig, like frightening, like big like
stuffed animal looking spiders just crawling aroundand stuff, and it's just the most
frightening thing ever. Still, Kyleis watching us in his car right now
because of our house centipede. Uhand and he wants Nancy Brown is hanging
(02:59:01):
Judge Joey. Oh, Carle,you genius, You sweet sweet genius.
Kyle. Do you want me toinvite you in? Can we do you
wanna? Do you want to comein on the I'm gonna invite carl in
Carle. Where should I send theinvite link to so you can come in
on the feed? Should I doin Facebook? I'm gonna doing Facebook,
(02:59:22):
Kyle. I'm sending you the feed. Join the feed, Kyle. We
want to know what hum I'm gonnasend him the link. All right,
Kyle, I just sent you alink in Facebook. Go on the link
and invite yourself in on your phoneand we'll beam you into the show.
(02:59:46):
This will be interactive and live andfun. I think Kyle's left us.
No one's watching us anymore. Carl'sgone. There are currently no viewers.
Oh he'd left, well, becauseit does he have to leave to go
into that. He probably left togo look at Facebook, right, right,
right, so you can get thelink. I think that's if he
(03:00:07):
If he gets beamed in, thisis gonna be fucking brilliant. Yeah.
I think he has to leave asa viewer to get beamed in as a
as a participant. Yeah, that'sfine. He can't hear any of this,
right, Are you okay to stayup for a bit more or not?
Yeah? I can say for alittle war, Yeah, yeah,
for sure. I don't want usto be upsetting anyone or causing an issue.
(03:00:31):
Kyle, are you coming in?Dude? He's seen it. I've
seen on Facebook Messenger that he's seenit. It'd be amazing if we got
Kyle in here and we were justlike, there's Kyle in his car reporting
live from the car, that's whatI want. I want Kyle live from
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his car. No, still noKyle, nop. So maybe he disappeared.
Maybe he maybe he dropped out.He was yeah, I think he
(03:01:13):
dropped out. Oh no, hangon, that was the he said to
be Pete. Uh. It saysdevice is not connected. Oh Kyle,
you need to connect your device?How do I? Oh, we got
(03:01:35):
a private or is your private chat? My browser won't let him. Oh
his brows are not letting him in. That's the problem the phone browser.
Huh. Yeah, if he's gotlike Safari, I think it won't let
you in. Oh really, Safaridoesn't I'm on Safari. Oh well then
I guess it does. Like,Kyle, you just have to authorize use
(03:01:56):
of your microphone and camera. That'sall. Like the should be a pop
up that says, like, youknow, allow use of microphone or allow
use of camera, and once you'vedone that, it should be fine anyway.
All right, So Kyle Carl,you may be stuck in your bed
(03:02:16):
forever, sir, because I thinkwe've got to bring up if you could
figure out a way to jump in, we would have chatted a bit longer.
But this is this is uh,this is where we might have to
leave you, sir, because otherwiseit would have been amazing, Kyle,
if you'd managed to get in thisin the studio, that would have been
incredible. But I guess another time. All right, man, Okay,
(03:02:39):
well we're out. We're leaving thestream now, Kyle. I hope you
survive. They sent to Peter Apocalypse. When we come back two weeks from
now, we'll report live with Kylein his car and see what happened.
He's gonna be for five weeks.All right, take them. I have
a good bit to talk to yoursuit. Oh we are too middle age
(03:03:07):
men watching nineties era Jim Blueshi films. Too, middle age men watching nineties
era Jim Baluchi films too, middleage men watching nineties era Jim Blushi films.
And you can watch along with those. Oh yeah, you've been watching
(03:03:30):
along with us. Oh yeah,Or maybe you've been listening somewhere where it's
listening. You just got the podcastversion. You've not seen the film,
but you have listened along with us. Oh d you have spent your time
(03:03:56):
with Oh, just finish already