A.I. EP. 291: “I Have To Return Some Videotapes” - American Psycho 25th Anniversary

We thought it was finally time to do a light-hearted film and then we scratched that idea and broke down the extremely dark, comedic, slasher horror film, American Psycho. Turns out our good buddy, Chris Chatham, has a pretty dark sense of humor and was all onboard to discuss this film. We had a great time and he still managed to keep a running joke going since his very first episode with us. Enjoy!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
The sun is shining out cloud in the sky.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
We wouldn't know because we're so happy inside.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Some people.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
On some skis, but we.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Would rather sit on down and talk some movies. We're
the Avid Indoorsmen. Come listen to our show. We're the
evid Indoorsmen at homebo around the goal. We're the Avidendorsmen.
We hope you love it, so come on in and stay.
We'll do our best to excuse my.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Indoors man. What is happening? I'm Rob Blundquist and I'm
Boots and we are the Avid Indorsement. Hello everyone, Hello everyone.
How are you, buddy?

Speaker 3 (00:50):
I'm doing pretty good, bud uh Yeah, I don't know,
nothing new or exciting, just doing well. How are you?

Speaker 1 (00:57):
I am doing well. I got to hang out with you,
which I thought was very exciting. That was fun.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
I did like that.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, that was great. I actually just posted a picture
to our Patreon of us hanging out. When you came
over to the abode for some breakfast. We had a
little breakfast action. It was so fun. The kids were
all cute, We got to chit chat. It was great.
It was really nice.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
It was really nice.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
And then you were going to go hang out with
our friends at a bunch of breweries. How did that go?
It went well, we did that.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
I think I left my house at seven thirty that
morning to go to Years and I got home at one,
So pretty good in the morning. One in the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yes, so we bo leak out. You guys went for it.
Really did it? Maybe it was close?

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Any fun highlights I don't remember. Honestly, it was really funny.
It went really fast, Like I felt at the end
of the night, I was like, man, I'm tired. I'm surprised,
and I was like, well, it is, you know night
or whatever. It was like, yeah, I guess We've been
to a lot of places. We had really great churos
at Earl Giles cool.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah, yeah, I remember you say you're going to go there.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
It's like a distillery play super cool vibe in there.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Everyone was great. We had fun.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
We saw Dan Restrom out and about, which was great,
just just hanging out random. It was random.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Our buddy Laz was hanging out. He knew of the event,
so that wasn't as big as Pries, but still a treat. Yeah,
of course, yeah, Magan cakele it was great. It was
a fun time.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Oh she did come out. Yeah, yeah, she came out
for the first.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
One because we started sort of over there.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
So super fun.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
We got to talk about your kids being great at piano.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
It was fun. Oh that's fun.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, it was great, dude. It was a lovely day,
a really nice day. What else did you do that?

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Well, we went to the Loons game the Minnesota United,
our soccer club here in Minnesota, and it was It
was pretty pretty great. I wish it would have been
about ten degrees warmer. It was a little chili stay.
It was on the chillier side, so we we prepared though,
and I went and bought some hand warmers so we

(03:14):
had a few of those on hand. The Loon scored twice,
which was very exciting.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
I saw that they tied right they drew.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
They did, and it was that in the ninetieth minute
where they let the other team score. So that was
damn really but it was it was really fun. They
have a playground directly next to the stadium. Oh I
didn't know that, and dude, it is like their favorite

(03:44):
playground now, which was really fun. They had like a
zipline thing that Charlie was obsessed with.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Amazing.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, it was a It was a pretty great day.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
That's cool. That was the kid's first game, right, so
they they enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
There were some things that they didn't like. There were
two different guys on the LA Galaxy that kind of
flopped trying to get fouls called, and well all the
fans hated that. So whenever any of those guys would
get past the ball, everyone started booing. And so my

(04:22):
kids are pretty sensitive, and why why are they booing him?
They're being so mean. They were like it was really
bugging them. They did not like that part of it
at all. That's very sweet though, But we were close
to like the fan section where they where we we

(04:44):
went and the whole time getting crazy doing all the
chance and so they were loving on that.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
It was pretty cool. That's great.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
I think they liked that more than like the Twins
games that I brought him to.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Okay, more exciting than a Twins game for kids anyway,
you know, like I could see that and it's still cool. Stadium.
I love that little place. It's so cool.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
It's cool.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
It's not like tiny, but it feels very intimate.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, I mean it's yeah, it's quite a bit smaller
than some of the other ones for sure. Yeah. I
think there was like twenty thousand people there that day,
so full. It was fun. That's cool, man, Yeah. Fun.
But have you been watching any movies recently?

Speaker 3 (05:30):
I have. I saw a film called Companion.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Oh tell me about them?

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, really interesting film. I'm trying to remember. I know
I said we'd say where we saw it? Did I
rent this one?

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Go to the theater?

Speaker 3 (05:44):
I don't remember. Go look it up. You'll find it.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Go look it up. Sorry, gang, I think that's at
this Is that a rental?

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Okay, I knew a thing. Yeah, anyway, really interesting film.
It stars Sophie Thatcher, who folks might know from Yellow Jackets,
and then she's been in a few other things now
as well, and Jack Quad is in it. There's the
Lucas Gage guy who I think you'd recognize. I don't

(06:13):
remember what he's from, and then Harvey Gien from What
We Do in the Shadow as well. Really interesting movie.
I don't want to give away too much about it.
It is sort of thriller slash horror adjacent. It's about
people that go to this remote location. I think it's
easy to say someone is not quite what they see

(06:36):
and chaos ensues from there, but I really liked it.
It is definitely more thrillery than horror movie for sure. Yeah,
well I know you like that and I do as well.
I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, it's really really fun.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
I just I just am having a little love affair
with Jack Quaid right now.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
I just think, Yeah, novacane and now that one, I think.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Fun and just charismatic and you know, affable. I just
really like him a lot, so it's really great. And
he's not always an awesome None of them really are
awesome people all the time in this movie. So that
was also fun, but super enjoyable, very cool premise that
happens in the movie, and it's got some twists and

(07:22):
turns that are really fun, and I super duper liked
it a lot. I think I think you would particularly
enjoy it. And I think anyone who's okay with like
some horror elements but can hang out for a good
story will we'll be pleased with watching this movie. For sure.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
It was fun. I mean, if they're listening to this episode,
that's a super good probably.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
It is no way near American Psycho, yeah for sure,
so we're not quite there, but it has its moments
if you will. So, yeah, I recommend it, though I
really I had no expectations going in, and I really
liked it a lot. I thought it was fun cool.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
I'm gonn check it out.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Uh yeah, we did talk about this when you were
over at my house.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
But I went to the theater and saw the new
Steven Soderberg film Black Bag. That's right, yeah, yes, But
for the listener. This stars Michael Fastbender, Kate Blanchette, Pierce Brosnan,
Naomi Harris, and Moore. It's an espionage thriller. It's based

(08:27):
on an intelligence agency that has Michael Fastbender and Kate Blanchette.
They're a couple and they're spies and there's like a
mole that they got to figure out. So that is
that's pretty much the plot.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
I was.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
I was glad I saw it in the theater, and
I told you this because this genre just in general,
moves a little slower, and I probably would have started
scrolling on my phone had I watched it at my house,
And I'm glad I didn't do it. It was interesting,
it was very well acted, and it was it was quick.

(09:05):
It was ninety minutes. Yeah, tight, tight, ninety as well.
It was a tight ninety which I really liked, and
everybody in it was really good. I really, I thought
it was pretty great.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Actually, it felt like an old school like neo noir
kind of thing. Yeah, I guess I said old and neo,
but you know what I mean, like it felt like
it was from a few years ago in a great way,
kind of timeless. So yeah, I'm with you. I really
liked it. I agree, little slow in parts maybe, but

(09:37):
the payoff was good and all the actors were good.
I was really in love with that. Marissa Abella, Yeah,
I saw.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
She was in a show called Industry that I didn't watch.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, I did have watched that, and he really liked it,
I think, or at least he watched it, I guess
now I don't remember if he liked it. But she
also did the Back in Black movie, the Amy Winehouse biopick.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
There was a biopic on Amy Whinehouse, I guess.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
So that's also what I like. I saw and I
was like, oh, yeah, I guess I kind of remember
that happening. Yeah, I can see that. I know. I'm
intrigued now to watch that for sure. I was just
looking real quick when did that happen? It was twenty
twenty four, so it was last year.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
How did I not hear about that at all?

Speaker 3 (10:27):
I know, I feel like we completely missed it. It's
on Prime Video to stream, so check it out. I
feel like I'm gonna watch it now. I like Amy
Whinehouse anyway. I loved her, although that story is kind
of yucky based on the what I remember from I
watched a documented yeah I think it was called Amy Yeah, yeah,

(10:49):
and that was, you know, just it had its sad moments.
But I'm intrigue. I really thought she was great in
this movie, so I'm definitely sure what I might as
well check this out?

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Why not?

Speaker 3 (10:58):
So? Yeah, anyway, I sidetracked this.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Sorry, It's all good. Have you been streaming anything?

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah? I finished an entire series that I don't think
I've talked about yet. This is a show about the
troubles in Northern Ireland, which was the you know, the
the fighting that was happening in the IRA and the
British monarchy and all that kind of stuff. It's a
show called Say Nothing. It's an FX show, so you

(11:24):
can see in Hulu, I think primary I kept.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Seeing previews for it. It looks awesome.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
It's really really good, super compelling. I think it's nine
episodes if I recall. Production value is great. It is
sort of about an entire sort of running history of
the Troubles, and you follow a bunch of characters, but
sort of the main ish characters is this pair of

(11:51):
sisters that that parents were involved in the IRA at
one point or another, and they sort of become involved
in events and stuff goes crazy from there. It's one
of those super interesting ones where it's based on true
events and real people and like so they have to
do some disclaimer stuff, you know, about well this person

(12:14):
has said they were never involved, but we're going off
of these other things, so it's a little hard to
know what is true what maybe you know, liberties were
taken with things, things like that. But it's definitely got
parts of it that are true as the best I
can kind of, you know say, but it's been dramatized.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
It's really really good, very compelling.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
It is violent at points and you know, really upsetting
at points, but it's really good.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
I think you would like it a lot, and I
recommend as well people check it out. I kind of
I think I had watched two episodes before this before
like Sunday, and I think I knocked out almost the
rest just that day.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
So it's super interesting and fun.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
So yeah, check it out. Say Nothing, It's called.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Say Nothing, Yeah, say less less watch as. Can you
say more about what you've been streaming?

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (13:06):
I can? Wowie wow Wow. I finished the second season
of Severance. Oh me too, dude, Yes, dude. That ending episode, Holy.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Cow, it was bonkers in the blue my mind.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
So we learned a lot more about what's going on
just in the last two episodes of the show. I
felt like they gave us a lot of answers, which
is really nice. It almost felt like they were ready.
If Apple wasn't going to renew it for a third season,
they could have ended it there if they wanted to.

(13:48):
I kind of like, not everything was answered, but a
lot was, and it was. I mean, I don't want
to give too much work.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Bonker's finale so good, so intense. I was loving it.
I saw that Ben Stiller publicly asked Apple through x
if they should make a season three and Apple agreed,
so yes, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
So we saw the probably was like it's going to
be a shorter amount of time to this time.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
We probably because I was going to say, we're going
to expect that in like twenty thirty with the way
things have been going. It's guy. I also saw a
thing that said that Apple like was losing a billion
dollars annually for the shows that they're putting out. Is
that true? I don't.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Who knows in it?

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Because they have the I think they have the best
shows out.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yeah, they really they're great. Yeah, once you get like
shrinking and yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Like they are killing it. And these are usually pretty
good too.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yeah I think worth watching, Yeah, most of them for sure.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
But I just I don't. I don't understand. I guess
I don't know how they make their money, and I
would assume it's the membership, but it's just like, yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
It's weird, and who know. I feel like there's so
much like they can cook the book, like not even illegally,
but they just you know, like these movies that make
all this money and they're like, we barely broke even
It's like, did you though, what is happening? What sort
of creative stuff are we doing here on the accounting side?
You know?

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Well, I'm just hoping they keep making shows because I
enjoy it almost all of them.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Fifty trillion or whatever.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
So so they probably keep losing a billion fire You're good,
I guess so, But yeah, they are entertaining me. The
show is fantastic, man, it's really wild.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
I felt like at points of this season, Oh, I
think we talked about on here, maybe like a tiny
bit slower or you were just kind of like, where
are we going?

Speaker 1 (15:52):
And I just want to know things I was getting.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, yes, agreed, it's getting frustrated and there's.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Still a more learn.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
So they did a good tightrope walk for sure.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Nice love that, Oh so good.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Very very fun.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Well, what do you think should do some plug rooons?

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Let's do it all right, guests can business has always
over on the Twitter machine at the Aven Endorsman with
a Z. I can go to Facebook, dot Com, Instagram,
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But if you really want to hang out and be
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Speaker 1 (16:27):
To go Patreon dot com slash the Avid Indoorsman. It's
a great time on Patreon. We give our patrons a
lot of perks, and one of those is getting a
shout out here. So let's give it up for Marcia Grisiac,
Mary Fox, Nanette Walkley, Yo, I'm brosted deb Olk, and
Noel Flores. You guys are wonderful. Thank you for being patrons.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Another perk we like to give our patrons is an
extended version of every episode we put out, we'll do
a top five draft that pertains to the movie that
we're talking about, and for this one, we are doing
our top five favorite staircase scenes. This one was more
fruitful than I thought it might be at first. Yes,
So when I was going to bed last night, I

(17:12):
was just like, there's got to be more than what
I googled, and I was like just kind of racking
my brain and I was able to come up with
three more, which I was pretty excited about that. You
were like, how could I Like, how can I forget one?
And it's going to be my number one if I
can get it.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Dang, But I hope it's the one I'm thinking because
I was like, me too, remember that'll be Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, it was fun.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, it was a good time. I think this will
be a fun draft for sure, for surely, and a
great topic because as they get ever increasingly harder to come.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
No, dude, I know we're gonna do.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
What were we going to do?

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Like funniest bath scenes?

Speaker 3 (17:51):
And we were like, you were like, have we done that?
I can't imagine yet.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, And then I was like, we have done it.
It's like, dang it.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Anyway. It was a silly, good time, a great suggestion.
I believe by our guest right that one was me.
This next guest that we have, though, doesn't come up
with any good ideas ever.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
He smells bad, he's dumb.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
He's great, he's a lovely man, he's wonderful. I think
you guys are going to like him. We had to
bring him back for this twisted film. As we talked
today about American psycho. Yes, and he's our little American psycho.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Let's give it up, Chada, what's up Chatham?

Speaker 5 (18:41):
Hey? Anyway, I was thinking that was the meaning of
life and we started already, Oh.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah, yes, we're here.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Did we miss that?

Speaker 5 (18:47):
You're going to see me? Maybe I should put this,
you know what? I think I should put the screen
because I'm going to be constantly looking up and people
are like, what's he looking at?

Speaker 1 (18:55):
What's he looking at?

Speaker 5 (18:56):
And I want to say, I'm looking at the lord camera. Yeah,
there you go the l n S. Lord, save.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
The l n S.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
I'm really glad you clarified, because I.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
Was not following as opposed to ld s, they're very different.
Like I just I found that abbreviating really like acronym
is a very funny thing to do. For some reason, I.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Just acronym makes me giggle.

Speaker 5 (19:29):
I'm very good. I'm acronymical.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
What I like? Are we talking about the same thing?
You put your finger?

Speaker 5 (19:37):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Sorry, what's that?

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Got it? Got?

Speaker 5 (19:40):
Not your finger? He railed already. I'm not going to
say that. My train is never on the tracks anyway,
you know, so it's not.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Hi Chatham, How are you?

Speaker 5 (19:54):
I'm so good, guys. I'm very excited to be here.
Lots of fun things happening, lots of good times being
had by all. Yes, yeah you guys. Uh, how's it
going over there? How's it going? Is it still snowing there? Right?

Speaker 1 (20:10):
It's nicer. I just went on a walk with my puppy, uh,
and it was beautiful.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
It was like tonight.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
That's what I like.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Like.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
I mean, I don't I like cold obviously, and bugs
and I have talked about this because he's way more
Rhino than I am as far as the skin taking
the cold goes. But uh, I just don't. I don't
care for the super cool. I got it when we
did those Christmas shows in Fargo when I was first
starting out in me.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Dude, nobody likes that.

Speaker 5 (20:42):
No one wants to. Yeah, just the show.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Your listener in Fargo, we really like, we.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
Like, but yeah, you can move like Grand Forks is
not a better one. Don't do that. But you know
that's maybe frazy, right, guys, right, no one knows, no
one knows what these laics are. I'm just like, oh, yeah,
sant Cloud, you guys like that, Like you guys want
to go to Brainer.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Somebody was talking to that Charlie Barron's guy, and was like, so,
I'm from North Dakota. What are some fun things that
I can do? And all of his suggestions were going
somewhere else.

Speaker 5 (21:18):
Yes, I want to leave. I'm a big fan.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
If there's an airplane nearby, you could do any number of.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
Any number of fun things.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Otherwise it made me laugh.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
That's really great.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
But I got to see Chatham just last week. We
were shooting some music videos and I love it.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
Yeah, man, had some good you got some star power
on these ones.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
I think we got some collaborations. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
Yeah, that's been crazy ever since. Like I would say
the Cruise thing right that that really helped out a lot,
Like country this country music Cruise and then hang out
and then all of a sudden, you're just like hanging
out with these legends and you're like, yeah, I guess
I'll hang out with Time in Rio today.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
I don't know whatever.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
You're like, what, aw big deal?

Speaker 5 (22:07):
Yeah, NBD, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
That's no big deal. For the listeners, Chat has been Yes,
good job, thanks fun. Chat has been doing a lot
of recording for us, which has been really exciting.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
I like it a lot because you guys are really
good at it. That's the thing like a lot of
people don't know they think nowadays. You know, you hear
this like everybody's tuned and it's all made him perfect
in the studio and I'm like, yeah, but if you
have the raw materials, like it's pretty great, doesn't take
long for you guys to be like, yeah, yeah, that
was good. Do you want to do another one? They're

(22:41):
like no, yeah, we're pretty much good to go here.
It doesn't take long at all. I did Tim and
I we recorded and did like I don't know for
he likes to record in the morning because he's a
bass and you know, he's like, well, you want to
start at eight, And I'm like, what not really start
my nap? Like what's my post sleep nap.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
He's like, yeah, I'll do it. And you get there
and and I'm like, I can't do it, inoctave above
what you're doing. But he did like four songs. We
recorded four songs, and he's like, okay, cool.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
You want to knock him out.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
Man, it's so impressive, especially like the base, you know, weird,
some of the basslines can be. We're just like and
he's like, yeah, I'm used to this. I do this
a lot. I'm like, man, and obviously it's impressive. Fasting
is very fast, and I know I've recorded you before, Robin.
You're very fast, You're very consistent. You're like this, that's

(23:36):
what we did. Yeah, let's do that again.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
But I'm unsure and feel gross about it the whole.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
Time, right, but no one would ever know, you know,
you put on.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
What I'm sure and gross about.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Yeah, I know, what you said.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
To repeat it anyway. I love it anyway. So I'm
very excited. It's very fun to work with you guys
and this. I'm very excited about the project. We can't
talk about. It's very good. Yes, hell yeah, Yeah, it's
gonna be a.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Secret, keep a secret, keep it saying well, well, you
don't have to keep secret is go to.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Patreon dot com slash Chatham or Chris Chatham.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
Sorry, Chris Chatham, Chris Chadom that's me.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Uh And you're gonna you're gonna like revamp has the
idea right speaking of vamping.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
Nice, Yeah, I'm gonna make some stuff on there. I
have some ideas going around, because you know, it's fun
to be inspired by everybody doing these fun musical things.
And I'm like, I have some ideas. Hell and it's
been a minute, and I was like, all right, there's
always that. The last thing we had talked about, I
think before, was like Tim, Tim and I both went

(24:48):
into studio with a bunch of bluegrass people here and
they're insanely good and just made these songs into bluegrass.
Were like, let's carry on my Wayward Sun. Sound like
if I were just to put a fiddle on there
in a banjo turned that's great.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
So I believe that.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
I think I'm gonna go back into my hair metally
days and be like, what else can we do? Let's
see what can skid row do that's got a banjo
in it. Let's find out?

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Shall we like that?

Speaker 5 (25:13):
Yeah? So I'm going to explore that realm as well,
and I've got some songs. Yeah, there's a lot of
things bouncing around up there too, a lot of bounce
around up and the old dude's nogging there.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Love it so love it.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
Man, It's gonna be great.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yeah, that'll be fun.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
We'll check that out. And also Oregon get Away.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
I'll be out there.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
For that, right.

Speaker 5 (25:32):
I cannot wait. I love that every time. I'm trying
to figure out when we're going to get there, and
there was talk of doing something with just having people
and doing some writing beforehand and stuff, and I don't know, fun,
we'll see. It's gonna be really really something every time.
It's just a beautiful place. Obviously, Abe is awesome, and

(25:53):
all of his animals you've noticed, like they're all like
the best, have that same energy where they're just like, yeah,
pick me up and I'll hang out. It's fine, Sure,
I'll hang out.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
No worries.

Speaker 5 (26:02):
Man and Lamas are heavy, it turns out, you know,
but worth it.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
We're gonna we're gonna be there this year.

Speaker 5 (26:09):
That's so. That's so FUNNL.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yeah, it's gonna be great.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
I'm very excited. The town is fun too. It's just
a quaint little like we talked about stand by Me,
right was the door that it was filmed? Yeah, I'm
gonna I hope that old guy bugs knows. I played
a guy in pool there. What was his name? He's like,
I'm t Bone. I'm like, of course, you are hard
to say with three teeth, but man, you great. I

(26:34):
don't know. It was great and we played and he
was like, all right, just it was super fun.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
I thought he was going to totally rock your world.
I wanted to came in hot and then yeah, he
wasn't that good. It's really interesting, you know.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
He said, some nice guy though, really nice guy.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yeah, nice guy.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
Anyway, looking forward to that.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Super fun. Well check all that stuff out.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
We are here today to talk about American Psycho, which
is celebrating it's twenty fifth anniversary. Wow, it's pretty crazy
to think about crazy.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Uh and what do you guys think? Should we get
right into it?

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Let's do it? Yeah? Rap, well you get it started
with a rough stops sure.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
In New York City in nineteen eighty seven, a handsome
young urban professional, Patrick Bateman lives a second life as
a gruesome serial killer by night. The cast is filled
by the detective, the fiance, the mistress, the coworker, and
the secretary. This is a biting rye comedy examining the

(27:34):
elements that make a man a monster.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Oh nice when you're you're reading the secretary and that
line's like, and that's why we're the breakfast club. Yeah nice,
very much in that same thing.

Speaker 5 (27:50):
For I love that money. Yeah job, yeah right.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Ah, very good, great job, pal, thank you, thank you.
Let's go to rotten to bottles near what they have
to say. Critics have this coming in and a really.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Surprising, surprising eight percent.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Eight kind of shocked by that. Honestly, I thought this
was a critically acclaimed film.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
So did I I could see what happened.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
I don't know, like I kind of thought it was
going to be flip flopped. Yeah, I thought it at
least be sixty nine percent. I couldn't believe it was
only sixty percent.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
What does the what does the audience part of it say?

Speaker 1 (28:28):
It way higher? Eighty five?

Speaker 5 (28:32):
I would yeah, I guess that makes it what it is. Yeah,
it seems well I could see why if it's so yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Oh you can see why. Well, let's get in and
let's find out what you think. Let's get into our
hot take.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
So hot hot, that's.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
A hot take.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
That's a hot take.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Food at the fancy restaurants.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
There's hot tags, they're piping hot, piping hot.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Is this that?

Speaker 3 (29:00):
It is? This? That? Is this?

Speaker 5 (29:02):
That hot sauce show? Is that what this?

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (29:04):
That's cool?

Speaker 5 (29:05):
Are you guys Sean or whatever?

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yes? We are?

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (29:11):
Which one.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Are you in the other room?

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Pipe it down? I guess I can go first, you
go first.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
I don't necessarily have a super hot hot take for
this movie. I think it's I've seen it a couple
of times, is all. This was one I saw late,
I believe, within the last five six years. I would think, Uh,
it's just a crazy movie about a crazy dude who
is like slowly unraveling as things go within it. But

(29:48):
it's really compelling. It is definitely in that thriller category.
I think.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
I just think it's really interesting. I think a movie
like this is also funny to me to watch like
years after it's happened, because it can almost seem it's
been copied so much. You know that it almost seems
like trite and over dramatic at points because you like,
know these beats so well yeah, right, but right, exactly exactly.

(30:18):
But I think it's a super well performed movie that
also breaks your brain at various points. It's confusing at points,
and it's just kind of a gross look at like
capitalism and the like rat race stuff as well a
little bit. But I still enjoyed it. I thought it
was compelling. If nothing else, this dude is an absolute

(30:42):
marksman with a chainsaw from several floors up.

Speaker 5 (30:46):
I have tried that so many times. I never get her.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
No, they always get away.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
I always drag. Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
I actually don't think I have a hot egg other
than I agree. Huey lewis in the news they hit
a high water mark and I can't remember even what
the album is that they were talking about.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Well, first it was sports. We definitely talked about sports,
and then it was four, right, four?

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Which one did he say was their high water mark
both musically and I think sports.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
Right, Actually think he was like then he started.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Talking about it have to be square, right.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
Yeah, he says like four. It's like, oh, they're undenied
masterpiece or whatever those are, right, man, They're incredible.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
I love you. I guess that's my same bro hot.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
That is a brave, brave stance to take.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Wow. Well, like you, I missed this movie when it
came out as well. It came out a lot on
the pod, and so I watched it for the first
time either last year or the year before, and I
was looking back at Christian bales movies and I really
didn't see any of his early work when it came out.

(31:55):
The first thing I saw of his when it came
out was Rain of Fire back in two thousand and two.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
A masterpiece.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yeah, we've done an episode on it, check it out.
But I've gone back and watched things prior. But I
was real late on Christian Bale, which makes sense why
I was so confused about why they picked him for
Batman at the time. Who is this guy? What's this
guy done? Oh? Turns out a lot turns out he's
a very accomplished actor. I just never saw any of
the movies using. This was a novel by Brett Easton Ellis,

(32:26):
super dark writer. My buddy Timmy made me read Less
than Zero because it was one of his favorite books
back in the day. Also very very dark and just depressing.
Apparently that's Brett Easton Ellis's thing. The woman who played
Elizabeth in this was one of the writers of the screenplay,

(32:49):
as well as Mary Herron, who directed it. This is
by far the biggest film that she's ever directed, and
has done a lot of random television over the years
and some TV movies. The cast in this is pretty incredible.
Some pretty big name actors that weren't big at the
time were cast in some pretty small roles. So it

(33:11):
was really fun going back and seeing all these all
these young cats. I love the soundtrack in this. Uh
you know when there was good when there's that pretty
kind of dark monologue while he's getting ready for the
day and taking off the skincare mask, and then it
goes right into walking on Sunshine. Oh yeah, it's pretty JR.

(33:36):
There it is. That's the score.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
That's pretty much what's going on. But he's like so hilariously.
A friend of our guy was telling about Greg who
is so funny. He was learning piano and he wanted
to learn that piano to do the speech like the
whole morning, like the well sure thing. He was like,
I'm gonna try and do that, and I don't think
he ever did it, but he's like he loves it

(34:01):
so much and he just would quote it all the time.
Just think of like after I do the alcohol man,
you know whatever, After I do that, I put on
it with little to no alcohol because you know, so
he wanted to be able to do that. It's unbelievable.
It's so funny. But yeah, like that's just the music
is really something in this. Yeah it's great.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
And you got Huey Lewis, like you said, Phil Collins,
I'm in, I'm in. It's an interesting tone in this
that it's like super dark but also pretty funny, and
it shows how horrible greed is and how meaningless a
life can be when only trying to get more things
and achieve a high status. I kind of like the

(34:45):
kind of ambiguous ending. We don't know for sure what
really happened, if this was all just a day dream
in his head. They leave it up for interpretation, which
I like, I guess my hot take this is what
I think happened. I think I think that he was
really doing all the murders up until the very end,
like up until that crazy night where he feeds the

(35:09):
cat to the atm and like shoots the lady and
then shoots at the police and the cars blow up. Like,
I don't think any of that happened. I think he
was like maybe just like super wasted or something, and
then left a phone call to the lawyer. Like I
don't think he did that night, but I think he
did everything leading up to that. Maybe maybe he didn't

(35:29):
do the chainsaw thing, because that was pretty crazy too.
But I like the idea of just how horribly dark
it is to think that the lady who was responsible
for selling Paul Allen's apartment saw all of the horror
that was in there and decided she was just going

(35:50):
to clean up and hide it so that she'd be
able to sell the apartment.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
For like a.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Exactly Like that is so horrible.

Speaker 5 (36:00):
That's that's that I feel like all that stuff had
to have happened. Yeah, sure, that's about that.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Buy that. The big thing is the like firing the
gun at the police and the.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Car explode and he's.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Like he's like what and there's no sound at that point,
just like kind of a giveaway. Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, agreed,
that's fun.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Hot take, Buddy, hot take, thank you.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Out.

Speaker 5 (36:26):
Yeah. My thought is that one anyone watches it now,
it was like a young person isn't going to understand
anything about the eighties. We're not gonna understand. We're not
gonna be watching stuff that's in the sixties and seventies
and be like, oh yeah, I remember that. We just
don't know what it was like. So and that's you
know that kind of like I think that was described
as like the anonymity of the eighties, like they all

(36:49):
do the same thing. Nobody knows who any of them are,
Like he might not be Patrick Bateman, like he doesn't
actually know, Like we don't really know that that's who
that is, like right, So every thing from like yeah,
like I think that people saw it and they were like,
I don't did anything happen? Like I think they just
weren't satisfied with nothing happening, you know what I mean,

(37:09):
the way we all were at the end of like sopranos.
We're all like, but we just but we went through
the whole journey, like what happened? So yeah, I think
I think people just kind of it's weird enough that
and like any cult classic, like nobody knows it yet.
Like if you watch I'm like when Big Lebowski came
out and people were like, what happened, It's like, no,

(37:31):
nothing happened. It's fine, don't worry about it. Like now
we're all like, well, that's incredible. And also none of
the actors were huge names other than like Willem Dafoe
really and so you know, you don't have any there's
there's no hype with any of them yet. So we
go back and watch it now we're like, oh, yeah,
that guy, that's fun.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Right.

Speaker 5 (37:51):
But it's just I think people just worked turned off
by how weird it is. And it is like pretty intense,
like it's pretty, it's graphic, and it's, uh, there's no
good guy in it, like there's nobody that you can
root for, and it was like they weren't really doing
movies like that yet. They were kind of like fight
Club was in there, and they didn't have like the

(38:12):
bad guy winning a lot you know. So it's like,
I don't know, I'm just having an entire speech. At
the end, we're like, so what happened? Well, I guess
nothing and like no consequences, And they're like, oh, I
think people just didn't like it, and they don't, you know,
and it wasn't a thing yet now yeah, I guess
fast forward, that's why all people like it now. They're like,
but all the scenes though, like watch it, how weird

(38:35):
it is and funny and so yeah, I think people
just weren't ready for it yet.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
But I feel like critics are usually pretty glad of that.
You know, that was really weird for me.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
Yeah, maybe it's yeah, they didn't maybe they didn't see
the extended cut like I did and thought, well, we
did need that extra bit of I don't know, there's
only a couple of things they added that. I was like,
really that put it over the NC seventeen. I was like,
are you sure that's it?

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Like it's like no extra murders something, it's not even.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
Like it's like an extra scene and like the threesome
of the weird sex thing, and there's a couple of those,
and you're like, that's what did it huh, and they
said like, yeah, she had a tone of down just
a little bit to make sure it can we get released.
But I don't know, but it's yeah, it's it's weird
and I don't know what happens still, And I'm like
when I show people the movie and I'm like, hey,

(39:29):
let's watch this, and they're like okay. At the end,
I don't really know either. I'm like, they're worried about
me mostly, which happens a lot. Like am I free
to go? Yeah? Should? I don't feel restrained, but I'm scared.
I'm worried, but like, well, yeah, no, you're free to go.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Be like I just got a new Hue Lewis and
the News album. You guess why? I hear you like
right away?

Speaker 5 (39:53):
Do you like Phil Collins? So yeah, man, well hot
take hot tot ish, I'd say, Luke, pretty Luke.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
You know, yeah, I know we're tip tip tay. You know,
it happens, it happens. Let's go talk about our favorite
acting performance.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Shall we name the dude the dude?

Speaker 3 (40:16):
The dude.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
I'm the dude, so that's what you call me, you
know that, or his dude or duder or you know
el dud Reno if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Yeah, Chatham, who do you? Who do you have for
your favorite actor?

Speaker 5 (40:32):
I mean it's such a solo kind of movie, like
there's a lot of support everywhere. It's there's really only
one way to go about Christian Bale is like you
don't you don't see it coming either, and if you know,
like I only knew Newsies right, so and then there
and I was like, well that's a departure. Yeah, so
there's less singing.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
I guess, you know, and took a choice here.

Speaker 5 (40:56):
Yeah, but all of his like he makes me and
believe he's insane and worried and all the thing. You're like, huh,
Like I just kept looking at the screen like that,
that's psychotic what you're doing. That's good, you're doing it.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
You're doing it.

Speaker 5 (41:11):
But I thought, yeah, all of his little isms and
you're like, yeah, he doesn't think he's bad. He just
is doing the thing he knows to do, right, So
that's it. And yeah it was but it was great performance.
I believed all of it, even though it was ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yeah, so agreed. YEP obviously picked him as well. So
impressive he's he's got to be up there as one
of the best actors of all time. He has one
of the best American accents I've ever heard, And I
remember being shocked when I saw him in an interview
and found out he was British. I just had no idea.

Speaker 5 (41:49):
Oh yeah, for so long he did something with Oh yeah,
I did The Dark Knight with Gary Oldman. So if
here two of those guys and you're.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Like, what, yeah, that's not your voice.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
How do you get around that? That's so problematic? Yeah,
but it's pretty contense.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
But yeah, he has to do a lot in this movie.
He narrates a film. He has some pretty long monologues.
He plays an emotionless sociopath really well, yeah, really really well.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
Well, if your accented, your accent comes out when you're
you know, real mad or like overly emotional. So playing
a psycho where you'd have to keep it all restraints
seems like an easy kind of deal. But sure easier
than just being flying off the handle and everything, you know.
I just, yeah, I would never have known that he
was not an American.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
It's crazy that, yeah, I mean, it's a it's a
clean sweep as far as I'm concerned all the same
things you guys said. I thought he particularly did a
good job both masking when he was trying to act normal,
like that felt so unsettling in such a real way
that that it was really great. And then, just like
we said up top, like the sort of like visible

(43:01):
but slow unraveling of him as a person, you know,
as he's like going through it is really interesting. So
I just thought he was magnificent in this. Honestly, it's
really really good.

Speaker 5 (43:12):
I found it was really interesting that he's not very
good at hiding it. It's just the eighties, we're real
bad at finding you out. Yes, the whole thing is
like he's like, you know, when he's being interviewed by
the Foe's character and he's like sweating and obviously stumbling,
and I'm like, why aren't you catching any of this?
You're not a good cop, right, Like he's terrible at
being you know, He's like, no, I can always get

(43:34):
you lying. Okay, what's the topic of discussion? Like it's
just nothing kind of lines up and just yeah, you know.
So it's it's funny that you could see like he
get away with it in that time because it's kind
of like that.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
It's totally yeah.

Speaker 5 (43:50):
Interesting, a lot of it.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Well, let's go talk about the rest of his crew.
It's pretty stacked cast here.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Let's talk about the Tucci, the tucciard.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
To Tea.

Speaker 5 (44:02):
Yeah, me, I got as hard. It was hard got
I'm gonna say, Okay, I got Reese Witherspoon as mine
because I really don't don't like her in any way,
and she really got that. I mean I like her
as an actress, I don't like her character. She really
is irritating and very obnoxious and perfect so like all

(44:26):
of her fake little leg Mary Xmas like, I just
I'm like, she plays that kind of rich and titled
thing very very well in this and I thought there's
a lot of funny moments with that, and she just,
uh it was it was great to watch him bounce
off of her and he's falling apart and she barely
notices and all this stuff is you know, it's like
you feel bad for her when he's like not paying attention,

(44:47):
and then eventually you're like, I guess it's fine, you know.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
But.

Speaker 5 (44:53):
Yeah, it's their fine. They're not really together like they are.
But yeah, I had her as my main one, but
I had a hard time passing up Matt Ross.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Dude, that is who I was going to pick.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
Yeah, then we love him in uh there we go, Dvinah.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Yeah, all I could think of was Holy the whole time, exactly.
He is so good in this. He really stood out
in this last rewatch for me. I thought he was
really funny and it kind of felt like he was
the only one that really paid attention to Patrick Bateman,
and then it turned out it was because he was

(45:38):
in love with him.

Speaker 5 (45:39):
Yeah. Yeah, it was really funny. He's like the only one.
You're like, he's getting just bashed by everybody in that
whole clan, but he's the only like he's the only
kind of decent almost guy. Like he's still like, you know,
flashy and materialistic. But you're like, maybe because he thinks
he has to. I don't know, it's not it's not
his fault, like you're just kind of rooting for him, like, oh,

(46:00):
poor guy. Yeah, his heart kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Yeah, he was fun for sure.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
Yeah, that's a great pick.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Yeah, what did you have, Bukes?

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Uh so I had, Uh, let's see Willem Dafoe. I
love him anyway, he was fun to see him. I
forgot that he was in it even, which is funny.
He didn't do what Ton to be honest like, and
this is one of his least unhinged parts. I feel like, yeah,
which is kind of funny for him, But he's always

(46:31):
fun to see.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
It was hard to get a read on him in this,
like I couldn't tell if he really if he thought
that Patrick Bateman was a real suspect or not, or
if he was just kind of doing like his due diligence,
like had to interview him and stuff.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
There's some interesting trivia about that later that we'll talk about.
Because I'm with you one hundred percent. I was like,
what is he like? Does this guy just suckers he
coked out of his mind? Or what's going on? What's happening?
Where is does he know he just.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
Cares like it's yeah right, or just that like apathetic
you know.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yes, yes, Justin Threw was also fun to see. He
was the funniest of the like Wall Street Bros.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Yes underc I also think it's funny that a few
of these people have been in like some of the
funniest comedies we've had since Silicon Valley. Justin Threau was
in Parks and rec for a hot minute.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
You know, he's done a bunch of things.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
You know, just very silly. But that was fun. And
Josh Lucas I thought was pretty funny in his He
had a small part too, but just to Schmarmy, you know,
one of his dud.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Don't usually see him in that, so that was interesting.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Yeah, yeah, it was kind of fun.

Speaker 5 (47:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
I felt so bad for Chloe Savigny's gene and I
don't know how you say your last thing.

Speaker 5 (47:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
I don't think it's gotta be. I don't think.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
Yeah, I don't want to say that.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
But I was so glad to see that he spared
her because she was so sweet and just kind of
the like likable person in the whole.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
Yeah, I'm like, yeah, that guy's the only one. He's
almost okay. I'm like, yeah, Jean's great though, and I
she existed and I was like, okay, that's why she's
not bad, right, Yeah, she's so sweet, and yeah, that
whole scene is ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
That whole scene is great. Another crazy scene was with
Jared Leto, and that was crazy that he was that role.

Speaker 5 (48:36):
He's different, like I don't see it. I didn't see
him doing that kind of thing before either, Right, he's
always like very opposite, like a the punk with the
artistic or you know, he's not like, hey doesn't have that,
And I'm like, that's fun to see.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
He's funny, though.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
He's in two movies where he just gets absolutely obliterated.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Yeah, really dark movies.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Pretty dark.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
Uh yeah, that's all life, I guess, hey.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Now, And it was fun seeing Samantha Mathis as Courtney
and she was just kind of drugged out of her
mind the whole.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Time, basically the entire time.

Speaker 5 (49:16):
Yeah yeah yeah, sleep at the restaurant. Yeah, that's so
hard to pull off, like you know, kind of like
be intoxicate or life. It's so hard.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Like she did a good job, very good.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Are we here?

Speaker 5 (49:35):
Yeah yeah, yeah, we're here. Yeah I feel bad.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
That was that was all I wrote down, though, which
is a lot. That's a lot of people, that's so
many Yeah, yep, agree, sweet, Well let's pick some of
these scenes. Let's choose the dingus. So it's quite simple,
really dingus, dingus.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
I could talk about my dingas all.

Speaker 5 (50:00):
I'm going to kiss you.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
Yeah, what do you got.

Speaker 5 (50:06):
It's hard to pick. Well, I'll just go a couple
of the one. So man, uh the business cards for
me I talk about all the time. It's I can't
get over how ridiculous that him sweating and like that.
That's that's bone, Like, it's.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Pretty masterful filmmaking. I think, yeah, because we should not
be that invested in.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
All the same.

Speaker 5 (50:33):
Yeah, they're like all.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
These cards are the same.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
Yeah, so to the point where I wouldn't be surprised
if they were the same. Like it's like are they though,
like are they the same? But that was the most
fun I quote that all the time. Oh my god,
he has the water. I say it all the time.
I do that. But I think there's two Okay, So well,

(50:55):
we were talking about the opening morning routine scene where
he's just describing his whole thing. I thought that was
so funny. I was like, I also shouldn't care about that.
You're like reading a list, it's like reading instructions, and
you're like somehow totally captivated by you telling me your
ridiculous multi lotion routine and I'm like, you know, how
do you do that.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
That?

Speaker 1 (51:19):
But yeah, and those monologues are pretty the monologue and
I guess it's narration, but yeah, the music.

Speaker 5 (51:28):
Like he's like he's an infomercial talking about the albums
because that's what he knows. He's like, I don't know
how to feel, but I've heard that this is what
it is. So he talks about these you know, Whitney
Houston song and he's like, yeah, the most powerful song.
I was like, you don't you don't know what this,
You don't know what feelings are? What are you doing?

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Ye?

Speaker 5 (51:45):
But maybe laugh. I loved all of those. My favorite
little detail, I think is when he gets confronted by
uh Matt Rutt with a guy what's his name?

Speaker 3 (51:57):
In the movie.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Uh Lewis Lewis Brothers.

Speaker 5 (52:02):
Lewis Brothers. He gets confronted in the bathroom and he's
like about to strangle woman. He turns around and he
like kisses his hand. Yeah, when he's so flustered he's
washing his gloved hands and makes me laugh so much.
And then having to walk out.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
You know, it's like where you go? Where are you going?

Speaker 5 (52:22):
I have to return some video. I'm like, what is that?

Speaker 1 (52:25):
That's such an.

Speaker 5 (52:28):
Is that your code for I have to go kill somebody? Maybe?

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Probably seems like it.

Speaker 5 (52:32):
That's what it is. Yeah, those were I would say, Yeah,
business cards for me, the monologues about music and the
gloves thing I talk about all the time.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
All ye, I would be fine picking the business cards scene.
I had that as my runner up. But the one
that I think of with this movie is the Huey
Lewis Jared Leto scene. Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (52:53):
I mean, it's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
It's a pretty iconic scene at this point. Did you
guys ever see the Your Die skit? Yeah? I don't
think so, dude, you need to watch it.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
It is have it.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
It is Huey Lewis and weird Al Yankovic and Huey
Lewis is being the Patrick Bateman character, and it's amazing.
It's so because weird out. I'm not gonna I'm not
gonna you.

Speaker 5 (53:24):
Details, and I'm like, no, just watch it.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
It is so funny, very funny. But it's so funny
just that it's Huey Lewis anyway, because he's featured in
the scene. But yeah, that seems incredible. Oh man, yeah,
so I probably, But i'd be good with the business
card scene. What do you got bugs?

Speaker 3 (53:45):
The two top ones that I had were the business
card scene and then the Huey Lewis scene on Board
for sure, I just real quick. The part I love
about the Huey Lewis one is he is so manic
because he's fine getting to do it. You know, in
that moment, it's just really fun and infectious. You know

(54:06):
he's going to do this awful thing and you're kind
of like, all right, here we go. His weird little
like walk he does. He has his raincoat on, so funny.

Speaker 5 (54:16):
He's so good that keeps happening. Like the juxtaposition of
the music and his face is like the walking on
sunshine is the funniest thing to me. When he's just
it's like, you.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Know, it most like clingly sweet song, so great.

Speaker 5 (54:35):
He's just dead inside. It makes me laugh.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
A runner up scene for me is and you kind
of said it when you said he was just talking
about the music, but specifically the Phil Collins scene. Yes,
because he's explaining Genesis in their music while also setting
up like a giant eighties video camera and explaining what
he wants the sex workers to do. As he's explaining

(54:59):
Jenny Sis.

Speaker 5 (55:00):
Oh yeah, it's just ridiculous. The wildly vulgar stuff. He's
saying in the middle of like I didn't really understand there,
and I'm laughing because I'm into all this like complex
stuff and I know the weird time sinnastures and all
the stuff that like you can't dance to. So I'm
listening to him explain it and I'm like, yeah, that's
what it is for people who don't who just like
dance like they don't. So when he's like getting into

(55:22):
is like until they came out with their like more
widely accepted album, which it's like more narrowly, He's like,
so I feel like it's a better artistic Like he's
basically saying, like they killed off all the artistic parts
and now it's really good.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
I'm like that now it's good because it's popular.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
Yeah, it's commercially acceptable, so we're good now.

Speaker 5 (55:39):
And I'm like, Okay, that's exactly right.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
That's good, which of course is what he cares about,
right because he can that is like tangible and he
can measure that.

Speaker 5 (55:48):
Yeah, he can't. He can't express himself for real. He
has to fit in, right.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
So but that coupled with you know, hey, Veronica, maybe
you should start dancing now and then still doing was
just really great, really great.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Yeah. Yeah, and it's kind of a long scene to like, yeah,
he has to really keep going. It's pretty good.

Speaker 5 (56:09):
Yeah. And he never looks at them at all, like
he's just constantly doing yeah, watching him, and.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
They're not important to him. Man laugh, Well, I would
love to. Why don't we do a double Let's do
the business card Huey Lewis.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
Yeah, thing has been selected the d D.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
Yeah, I'm gonna keep doing it. I gotta I like it.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
I love I love acronym. Uh. Well, let's let's go
to some of these quotes and let's show the money. Yeah,
show me the money, show me.

Speaker 5 (56:49):
Show me money that you made.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
Show me.

Speaker 5 (56:55):
Yeah. Yeah, se hold.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
On, sin works, Uh, throw some of these quotes out
at them.

Speaker 5 (57:16):
I will throw them out, all right. So obviously the
his whole thing with the business card. Look at that
subtle off white coloring. It's tasteful thickness of it. He's
like barely hanging on. Oh my god, there's even a
watermark that is ridiculous. I love all of that stuff

(57:37):
where he's panicking over the most mundane stuff like his
I'm on the verge of tears by the time we
arrived at a spas, since I'm positive we won't have
a decent table, but we do, and relief washes over
me in an awesome wave, and you're like, we don't care.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Yeah, we don't.

Speaker 5 (57:53):
We don't think that's very important. I don't know so,
And just like him, the stuff that he says that
they miss here, like, yes, the bar that first one,
you're ugly. I want to stab you to death and
then play around with your blood.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Play around with your Blood's.

Speaker 5 (58:10):
Believable thing to say, that's what.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
At first, I'm like, oh, he's okay, okay, he'll be fine.
All of the stuff with him and Evelyn. Yes, when
he's like in the limo on the way to that,
he's you know, trying to listen to the new Palmer
tape in my ear. And when she gets done saying it,

(58:34):
and she's finally like, we should do it, you know,
do what, you know, get married, have a wedding. No,
I can't take the time of work. I'm like, he
doesn't do anything.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
He doesn't do he doesn't do any work, which I
think is really great.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
All his work stuff is is like, yeah, he's just.

Speaker 5 (58:58):
His and like in the restaurant when he's drawing the
chainsaw lady on the crayons or what, and he's just
breaking up with her and she's not. You know, he
says things like I'm sorry, you're just not terribly important
to me. What about the past? We never really shared one,
like all the hardest things you imagine saying that to
someone you bring up with. You're like, I don't think
I can do that. When he has like he's looking down,

(59:22):
he's like, I'm sorry, but my need to engage in
homicidal behavior on a massive scale cannot be corrected. But
I have no other way to fulfill my needs. And
she's just no. It's like I don't know that they
don't hear, like if they just blocking it out and
they're like, well that doesn't seem right, so I'm not
going to hear it. Or did he not say it?
Like I don't know where any of that is some

(59:42):
of them maybe and her stuff, you know, when she
says Mary xmis I hate it a lot. I hated someone.
I'm like Mary xmus Patrick mistletoe alert and I'm like, nope,
no alert.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Oh what a cutie?

Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
Uh feed me a stray cat really got me going.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
So much. That scared me.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
Yeah, it was like trying to just arm a time.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
And then he puts a gun to it, Like what
do you do?

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
This is what's the plan here?

Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
I understand what you Yeah? Uh, that's it. I mean
there's you know when he's talking about random serial killers,
serial killers and nobody. Yeah, the what Dean said about
When I see a pretty girl walking down the street,
I think two things. One part wants to take her out,
talk to her, be real nice and sweet and treat

(01:00:39):
her right. What did the other part think what her
head would look like on a stick.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
He starts laughing, and everybody's just like, yeah, yeah, that's
so funny.

Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
That's a few of the favorites.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
There's plenty more, but there are plenty more. Yep, I
have to return some videotapes is one of the It
might be one of beauty. Beauty another one of the
things that they don't understand that he says. He says
a horrible thing. A club patron is like, so what
do you do? He's like, I'm into it. Well, murders

(01:01:12):
and executions mostly.

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
She's like do you like it?

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
It's like, well, it depends why well, most guys I
know who are in mergers and acquisitions really don't like
it that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:23):
He's like, he's like kind of excited about she may
she understands.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
We can talk about this, No we can't. Another Reese
one that made me laugh is what does mister Grinch
want for Christmas? And don't say breast implants again, ridiculous,
small detail, very fun. Lewis is all about I think

(01:01:49):
it's his suit and then he starts like touching him
and he's like, your compliment was sufficiently.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Man as he is just chopping up Paul Allen and
he's just screaming try getting a reservation at Dorsey and no,
you've stupid bastards. Is amazing, really something that's incredible, really something.

(01:02:22):
And the last thing is during the Phil Collins thing,
I'll just do a little excerpt, especially songs like in
the Air Tonight and Against All Odds Sabrina. Don't just
stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil
Collins works best with the confines of the group. Then
as a solo artist, and I stressed the word artist.
This is Susus Studio, A great, great song, a personal favorite,

(01:02:46):
a personal.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
So hard he's so impatient with them, and they're like,
I don't know what's happening, man, Yeah, it's so good.

Speaker 5 (01:02:58):
Choose a robe not on.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Yes, I don't even know what. I'm just gonna hope
this is the right one. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:03:08):
I don't even like mustard.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
That was all I had, though, What do you got?

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Let's see, I've got to return some videotapes made me
laugh every time, just talk about like what people wouldn't
understand today, A regular thing for people to do back
in the day.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
Never I never had to cancel plans to that's fair.

Speaker 5 (01:03:32):
Yeah. The one thing they could probably figure out is
that if you had to do that, it wouldn't be
an emergency. Yeah, I have to go.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
When they're uh what they Oh, they're doing cocaine in
the bathroom, yes, where apparently no one is actually going
to the bathroom, and this whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
He's just like, oh, this is sweetener. I want to
get high and not put it on my meal. Like
He's just like, it is weak. But I think if
we do a lot of it will still be okay.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
It's really.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Well. And that guy next to them, I'm trying to
do some drugs. I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (01:04:12):
Yeah, like, oh, you guys are doing cocaine, then that's
what Yeah, you're.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
Yes, exactly, Okay, people get aggressive on cocaine.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
It turns out. I love when Justin throw is all like, oh, sorry,
man's steroids or whatever. Cocaine actually steroids.

Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
Him coming back to the table, He's like, they don't
have a good bathroom do cocaine? Like whoever? Yeah, it's
so stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
The other one I had is when he's after they
I think it's after them murders and acquisition scale, ye,
the models And they go out to the car and
she's like, you think I'm dumb, don't you You think
all models are dumb? And he's like, I really don't.
It's like, yeah, that's okay, I don't mind. There's something
sweet about you. And it's like, oh, I think, but

(01:05:04):
you're not a great judge of character.

Speaker 5 (01:05:06):
Right, there's not something sweet about him in no way.
There's nothing about this guy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
And then you just see him playing with the lock
of hair the next.

Speaker 5 (01:05:17):
Wonder what happened?

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
They never.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
Didn't we see her in her head? Yeah? Oh so
much darker movie.

Speaker 5 (01:05:29):
But I thought that was like a weird I thought
I was like a cake.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
You know, it's like, oh, it's an underlighted love situation.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Yeah, such a meet cute.

Speaker 5 (01:05:39):
Cute meat.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
I also love. I can't remember which of the like
douchebag guys said it, but when they were like, I
mean I'm really not hungry, but I'd like to have
reservations someplace, yes, I like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
I was like, yeah, that's pretty great.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
I love that during the Pumpkin discussion. Yeah, he goes pumpkin,
You're dating a tumbling, tumbling dick weed. Yeah, that was
pretty great.

Speaker 5 (01:06:07):
That's one of the things I learned about the whole
movie too. It's like all of the specials. The restaurants
are like child leg but sure rich Like it's like
the fried squid Ravioli, Like, it's like something about it's
like herb French fries, Like yeah, I don't know. It's
just stuff that you would find a diner. But they're
putting in this restaurant for five hundred and seventy dollars because.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
It's right, you know, pretty reasonable.

Speaker 5 (01:06:31):
Yeah, we're only at five seventy And I was like,
you're nope, that's not where that is pass. I uh
also wrote down the entire message that he leaves on
the voicemail is like, how do you act all of that? Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Yeah, and that's where I thought he was gonna like
go into his British accent and.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Yeah that's you came in.

Speaker 5 (01:06:54):
Yeah, kills a lot of people, like a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
That was wild, hate some of their brains.

Speaker 5 (01:07:03):
Yeah, quick, a little yeah anyway, Yeah, so pretty great,
He's okay, I guess you know.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Yeah, that was all I had though.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
I think for Queste, Well, great, let's go uh, let's
go to the crying game moments.

Speaker 5 (01:07:24):
It should be pretty quick.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Yeah, zero zero.

Speaker 5 (01:07:27):
There's no way you cried at all.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
No, I didn't. Yeah, which I was. I was happy about.
I felt like that was too bad.

Speaker 5 (01:07:36):
The only time you'd feel sad about this is like
if you decided that you had some similarities, you'd be
real worried. I have thought that I did carry duct
tape around my house thinking about oh no, oh, yeah,
what was that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Yeah that's not concerning at all. That's fine, But yeah
there was zero.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
In this one.

Speaker 5 (01:08:01):
Well that's great, that's great.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Let's find out honestly, let's move ahead to some movie Chibia.
Here the biggest single cost in the entirety of the
movie was purchasing the rights to the various songs he
used throughout, which I made sense and also was interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
Yeah, there in the topics. I wonder if they were like,
you're going to need to pay me a lot to.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Use it for this, you know, yeah, right right, So yeah,
I think they said that. Whitney Houston said that they.

Speaker 5 (01:08:34):
I was like, why is it? Yeah, Like, why is
it a saxophone rendition of her? Yep, because it's.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Gonna make sense, makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Interesting, let's see.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
Looking. While looking for a way to create the character
of Patrick Bateman, Christian bale stumbled onto a Tom Cruise
appearance on The Late Show with David Letterman, and, according
to co direct co writer and director Mary Harren, bail
saw in Cruise this very intense, friendlyiness with nothing behind
the eyes, and Baille subsequently based the character of Bateman

(01:09:05):
on that. Interestingly, Tom Cruise is actually featured in the
original novel. He lives in the same apartment complex as Bateman,
and they meet in an elevator and he gets the
name of Cocktail wrong, calling it bartender.

Speaker 5 (01:09:18):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
That was interesting, that's great, not a great comparison for
Tom cruise.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
But he's doing fine, He's okay, he's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
I don't think that's funny. I can totally see that's yeah.
I was like, oh okay, I'm always like.

Speaker 5 (01:09:34):
They're probably thinking that anyway, that's yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
I'll just great what you see easy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
Right now?

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
During production, Christian Bale followed the morning routine that his
character Patrick Bateman describes towards the beginning of the film.
So I just thought that was kind of funny that
he did that every morning.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
His skin looked amazing, he did, he was glowing.

Speaker 5 (01:10:01):
He was I can do one thousand now, yeah, I
can do a thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
Let's see. So Christian Bale, speaking of his great accent,
he spoke in the American accent offset at all times
throughout filming of this movie. At the rat party, he
began to speak in his native British accent, and a
lot of the crew thought that he was speaking that
way as a way of.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Preparing for his next role.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
They were like, oh, he must be doing a different
movie next, so he's really starting it early. And they
were like shocked to find out.

Speaker 5 (01:10:34):
That it's not just a little British, it's full on.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Oh yeah, very Welsh.

Speaker 5 (01:10:44):
I think, well, thought, yeah, I know it something weirder
than it straight British.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
I think it is Welsh because I think someone even
said you can almost hear Welsh come out in that scene.
You said Rob where you were expect the answer machine,
and they were like, he actually holds up pretty well.
But I kept thinking that was where and I'm pretty
sure they said.

Speaker 5 (01:11:01):
Well, it runs like a Welshman. Welshman.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
The film had various problems with designer labels during production,
so Rudy agreed to allow Christian Bale to wear their clothes,
but not when the character was killing anyone. Rolex agreed
to anyone in the film could wear their watches except
for Bateman, hence the famous line from the book, don't
touch the Rolex had to be changed to don't touch
the watch when they were laying in bed.

Speaker 5 (01:11:27):
Sure new balance was like, go ahead and wear shoes.
We don't care.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
Yeah, that's for us, all the publicity we can get, please.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
And Perry Ellis provided the underwear at the last minute
after Calvin Klein pulled out of the project. So I
thought that was interesting. It's kind of like you can't
use an iPhone anymore. If you're the bad guy, you know. Like,
so if you ever see someone with an android in
a movie, look out, because they're probably going to murder someone.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
Funny.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
Funny, Yeah, I think we learned that in Uh, they
definitely do that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
And carry On.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
Was the first one I heard of where we learned
that or something. I think, okay, Ibe I'm wrong anyway,
but car.

Speaker 5 (01:12:12):
Carrie was made in the seventies, so no Carrie on
ah like the like a dead carcass.

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
That's what I was going to say, look at you
by we finish sandwiches. Christian Bale insisted on getting Brett
Easton Ellis's approval for his portrayal before the filming and
arranged a meeting. Apparently, he showed up to the meeting
dressed and groomed as Bateman, even introducing himself as Patrick Bateman.

(01:12:43):
After ten minutes, Easton Ellis begged him to stop because
his hands were shaking and he couldn't take it anymore,
and Easton Ellis said it was the single creepiest moment of.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
His entire life.

Speaker 5 (01:12:55):
So wowust have been on board and be horrible to
meet the guy? Right, No, no, thank you, no, thank you, daddy,
thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
Let's see, this is pretty hysterical. Christian Bale was warned
by many that it would would be career suicide for
him to play the lead in a film like this
I get it though, which only made him more eager
to take the part right esportually for him, the opposite
turned out to be true. As we've all learned. He
got a bunch of breakthrough roles after that Terminator Batman, Yeah, Batman,

(01:13:33):
as I believe right, and he.

Speaker 5 (01:13:35):
Did Machinist Fighter the Machinist like and then that Ford
versus Ferrari is unbelievable too.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
But it was so much better than it had any
right to be.

Speaker 5 (01:13:46):
Yeah, I don't care about I was like, I don't care.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
About same, Like we all had that same feeling.

Speaker 5 (01:13:51):
This is the best.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
It was great.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
This is awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:13:55):
When he to think that he went from that to
Machinist back to Batman, like he lost, gained and lost
one hundred pounds.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
For both, and you're like, huh, he did that for
Vice too.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
He had to get a bunch of weight. Well, that's right,
I forgot about that.

Speaker 5 (01:14:10):
Talks about like hating, He's like, I'm just so tired
of pies.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:14:14):
It's just eating so much pie.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
So much he's didn't he say in one thing, he
put a piece of pie in a milkshake or something
as far as right, I.

Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
Think, how fun. You're like, I get to do this.
Let's go ahead. Yeah, he's like living the supersize me. Yeah,
I get to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
Fat man's dreams. Let's see to block the three way
sex scene with two prostitutes, co writer and director Mary
Harron and Christian Bale watched X rated tapes apparently, uh and.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
In her commentary, no, no, no, it's homework. I'm research
for That's what I was doing. You want to watch too,
I guess, But she says that he also made stick
figure drawings of the positions he thought would work best.
This is what I get.

Speaker 5 (01:15:06):
Which one is me, the one with the circles.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
This is where I learned.

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
I've been prepared for movies my whole life. I guess.

Speaker 5 (01:15:18):
That's good, clean, that's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
I thought this was great. The head that appears in
the refrigerator was achieved simply by having her stick her
head through the fridges shelves. Yeah, like make a you know,
look at a hole, just put.

Speaker 5 (01:15:38):
How long can you hold your breath?

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
Let's put you so funny. Yeah, it's all the dancing
that he did when he had the acts and was murdering. Yeah,
that was all improvised, which is kind of fun. I
thought that was great. I loved that this is not
an exit behind him in the closing scene if you
saw that over his shoulder. But that is apparently the

(01:16:01):
last words of the novel as well, so that's kind
of homage between the two. That was neat.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
I didn't notice that. I don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
Also, apparently the novel is like way crazier than this movie,
if you can believe that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
So I do believe that.

Speaker 5 (01:16:15):
They're like they can't film it. They just can't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Not doing that, We're not doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
I'm so sorry. And the last one I have is
Christian Bale's frenzied confession to his lawyer down you know,
on the phone, when he says he's the serial killer.

Speaker 5 (01:16:33):
And all that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
It was filmed in fourteen takes, and the director kept
pressing Bail to do another take as he improved with
each one, and he was just drinking cappuccinos the whole time.
I guess why he was doing it. So I thought
that was cool. Oh, and I'm sorry. I do have
a last one that I forgot to mention. It is
the we talked about Willem Dafoe and that scene and

(01:16:55):
not quite being sure like what he thought of him.
They had Willem Dafoe film all those scenes three different times,
each one where he believed he was guilty, one where
he believed he wasn't guilty, and one where he wasn't sure,
and they spiced them all together. So that's like part
of it is you don't know he's not consistent the

(01:17:16):
whole time with what he's thinking about what he's saying.
So I was like, oh, that makes sense because it
felt really confusing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
Yeah, and we didn't know what he was thinking.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
I thought that was kind of neat. That was all
I had though this time.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
Nice, well, I did see. After the novel was originally
optioned in nineteen ninety one, Brett Easton Ellis himself was
set to write the script for director Stuart Gordon, with
Johnny Depp starring as Patrick Bateman. Oh. Gordon wanted to
do the film in black and white and stick as
close to the book as possible, meaning a guaranteed x rating.

(01:17:55):
After the project fell through, David Cronenberg replaced Gordon with
a Brad Pitt set to star Wow, but that project
also failed to get off the ground, So that would
have been crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:18:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
I feel like they both probably could have done it right.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
They could have done it. Apparently, Ian McGregor was offered
the role, but Christian Bale personally urged him to decline.

Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
I wouldn't take it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
That sounds like a big role. Yeah, I don't think
you want to do that. There's a Christian what's that acts?

Speaker 5 (01:18:27):
You got there?

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
There was a long list of all the different directors
and people who are up for it, but ultimately DiCaprio, yeah,
was really close to making it, but he was asking
twenty one million dollars to play the lead, forcing the
budget up to forty million, and he ended up quitting

(01:18:54):
and Christian Bale resumed the role. The budget went back
down for more reasonable seven million. Oh well, so yeah,
the film ended up being successful because they got bail
in there and it was less money. It would have
flopped otherwise. Well, I mean maybe, ye, who knows, maybe
people would have seen it for DiCaprio, But yeah, that

(01:19:16):
was what I had.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
Oh yeah, very cool. Did you have anything?

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
We didn't say, Chatham what I found interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:19:24):
I went further after seeing that, like when he met
Brett Easton Ellis as Patrick Bateman. I went on later
and it says that he the author based that character
on his own father, and I was like, so if that,
he seems like a good guy. But it makes that

(01:19:44):
make way more sense. It's like, I can't take this.
You need to stop totally. If you're if you're you know,
if you grew up all that why he was so, yeah,
it would be bad anyway, but if you have that
kind of like personally, that'd be rough. Thanks, But yeah,
that I had, and I remember seeing I picked up

(01:20:09):
on it because I'd seen this. And then when Dexter
came around he in the show, he like gave a
fake name a couple of times, and it was like
he gave Patrick Bateman as his name, and I was like, sure,
that's funny, that's funny, and I'm laughing and nobody gets it.
I'm like, oh, well, where am I?

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:20:27):
They said that something. The DVD commentary, co writer director
Mary Harron says that during the shower scene with Patrick Pateman,
all of the women on set gathered around to watch
him take a show, and I was like, all the
women I'd be watching look at him like a perfectly
sculpted human being, Like that'd be I'm like, how are

(01:20:47):
you doing that?

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
One thousand crunches?

Speaker 5 (01:20:51):
Yeah, it makes sense. Reading another inspiration for his perform
Horman's Nicholas Cage and Vampire Kiss. I was like, okay,
like the fact that he saw comfortable. If you're like,
you get anything close to Nicholas Cage uncomfortable, that makes
you're basing it on that guy, Like okay, yeah, I

(01:21:12):
can see how you're getting there because it's not comfy.
But yeah, that's about it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
I think, nice, nice, Well, will there be a sequel?
Judgment Day? There was a sequel? It was called American
Psycho to all American Girl really never seen it. The
stars Meela Cunis and William Shatner, and it sounds amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:21:37):
Yeah, I think you should see it. And I don't
think it's good.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
If the rating was not high, no, but.

Speaker 5 (01:21:46):
I mean yeah, I was like, what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
But wow?

Speaker 5 (01:21:50):
Then I was like, wait, what are you doing? Then
I have to watch it because her and Shatner, You're
never gonna convince me. I can't watch them with him
in it, so yeah, he's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Uh yeah, it's not.

Speaker 5 (01:22:02):
I mean I could, it's no, Nope, but there's no.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
Chance it's good.

Speaker 5 (01:22:06):
No, but you definitely watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
Yeah, huh, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
Well, do you guys want to play a game?

Speaker 5 (01:22:12):
I do want to play games?

Speaker 1 (01:22:13):
Yeah? Good, because I made a starting five for you guys.
You know how it works. I'm gonna give you five
actors from a film when you know you're going to
ring in with your name. If you get it wrong,
no negative points, but you won't be able to guess
again for that movie. If their actors' names remaining, you
can guess those for a point each. The other person
can steal if you get any of those names wrong.

(01:22:33):
And all of these films have something in common. When
you know the theme, you can ring in at any
time for a point. And it might have something to
do with the movie we just talked about. Hop don't
do all of it.

Speaker 5 (01:22:47):
No, you can't afford it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
You can't afford it, certainly not. Are you guys ready?

Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
Yeah, don't do all of it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
Don't do it.

Speaker 5 (01:22:56):
Stop.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
I think those too many notes make it minor, alright.
Number one. The first name Carrie Washington.

Speaker 4 (01:23:09):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
Yes. The second name is Samuel L. Jackson. The third
name is Leonardo DiCaprio Bukes, Bukes django unchained. That's correct.
There's two names remaining, Christoph Vaults, Yes, Jamie Fox three

(01:23:35):
points rebukes hu's ah huzza. All right, let's go number two.
The first name is Christopher Plumber.

Speaker 5 (01:23:50):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
The second name is Jamie Lee Curtis. The third name
is Chris Evans.

Speaker 5 (01:24:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:03):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
The fourth name is Anna day Armish.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
On.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
The fifth and final names, I said this one earlier, right.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
Knives out, knives out. And the final name is.

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
Well, I'm sorry, who did you say already I've said Christopher, Sorry, Daniel.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
There are a lot of people to choose from. Yeah, yeah,
that's a good one. Cool, all right, let's go number three.
The first name is Alice Drummond. The second name though
Amy Adams.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
The third name is Philip Seymour Hoffman r I p
mm hmm. The fourth name is Viola Davis.

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
H In.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
The fifth and final name is Meryl Streep five four
three two one, peep peep. This was a movie called Doubt.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
I never saw doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
That was my first time really noticing Viola Davis, and
I was blown away. She is incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
So we got Django and changed, we got knives out,
we got Doubt. Do we know what the theme is yet?

Speaker 3 (01:25:35):
Sad dark movies?

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
No, that's not that's not it. Let's go to number four.
The first name is Michael Clark Duncan. The second name
is Steve buscemi.

Speaker 5 (01:25:50):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
The third name is Jaimin Huntu. The fourth name is
you and MacGregor, who apparently was up for American Psycho.
The fifth and final name is Scarlett Johansson five four

(01:26:16):
three two one. This was a movie by Michael Bay
called The Island. Huh oh okay, yeah, I thought maybe
I could get you guys with Michael Clark and almost
guys are too smart and that's not part of the theme.

(01:26:41):
Is the theme people in that we're supposed to be
up for this movie? No, but that has been a thing, okay, weird.

Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
I was like, oh, did you accidentally say it? Because
I do fo?

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
No, because Leo was you and McGregor was Yes, I
guess nobody that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
You said anyway, but still yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:01):
Okay, yeah, all right, it's kind of a hard theme.

Speaker 3 (01:27:06):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
Number five. The first name is Gary Oldman. The second
name is Aaron Eckhart, Bukes, Bukes, the Dark Knight. We
brought this one up earlier too, it's so weird. Yes,
you have three names remaining. Heath Ledger, yes, Christian Bale Yes?

(01:27:33):
And who would the third one be? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:27:36):
Five?

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
Four Maggie Yllen Hall, No, it's not Chatham. Heath Ledger,
Christian Bale, Aaron Eckhart, and Gary Oldman have all been said,
as well as Maggie Gillenhall.

Speaker 5 (01:27:51):
Killian Murphy.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
It's not Killian Murphy.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
Good?

Speaker 5 (01:27:54):
Why is it?

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
Because it's myka between him and Morgan Freeman. Really? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
Oh what did I get for that?

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
You got The Dark Knight, Heath Ledger and Christian Bale.
So three more points? So we got Django, Unchained, Knives
Out Doubt, the Island and The Dark Knight. Do those
titles have in common with American Psycho?

Speaker 5 (01:28:24):
Obviously movies that start with D.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
So that's not right. The Island starts with a D.
It's a tough it's a tough theme, all right? Where
are we after five? I'm out of zero?

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
I have a janam has zero but lots of time,
lots of time, is there?

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
All right?

Speaker 5 (01:28:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
Half? Okay, well, all right. Number six. The first name
is Tim Roth. The second name is Walton Goggins. Oh, yes,
I love him. He's in this season of The White Lotus.
The third name is Jennifer Jason Lee, Eughkes bugs hateful eight.

(01:29:13):
You're doing great, You're doing really well. Two names remaining,
Samuel L.

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
Jackson.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
Correct. One name remaining five four three? Can I ask
who you said? I'm so sorry? Yes, Tim Roth, Walton Goggins, Jennifer,
Jason Lee. And you also said Samuel Jackson five four three.
Who's the other person? I don't know when people Chatham failing,

(01:29:43):
Kurt Russell, Kurt Russell, he's on the board. Nicely done.

Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
But two again?

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
Two you got Samuel and the hate flat. All right,
let's go. Number seven. The first name is Joseph Gordon It.
The second name is Tommy Lee Jones. The third name
is James Spader.

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:30:13):
Number four Sally Field. And the fifth and final name
Daniel Damn. That's up.

Speaker 3 (01:30:23):
It's Daniel da Lewis. Is who you were going to say?

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
Lincoln? Yeah, but you started saying it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
I just take the one.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
I'll give you half. I'll give you half. I'll give
you well Lincoln and half.

Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
Forgot Dan Lewis, What the hell is the people who won?

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
It's the it's title. You look at the actual title.
Don't think of any of the plots or actors or
Charley title is it?

Speaker 3 (01:30:53):
The title has a letter in it that is silent,
that is correct. Yes, huh out to django. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
The island, Oh yeah, island Lickholm, the Dark Knight, I
would say late yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:31:12):
Yeah, lick Hoolm.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
So yeah, that's a hard, good job, but it was
kind of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
One.

Speaker 1 (01:31:18):
It was fun trying to come up with very words
would work.

Speaker 5 (01:31:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:31:21):
Oh, I don't feel like this is going to help
us get these.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
No, you guys are gonna get number eight. You're gonna
get number eight, but then nine and ten are really hard.
But eight you're gonna get for the first name is
Juliette Lewis. I know that name, you do. The second
name is Julia Louis Dreyfus.

Speaker 5 (01:31:43):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
The third name is Beverly di'angelo.

Speaker 5 (01:31:50):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
The fourth name is Randy Quaid.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
What Julia Louis d.

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
The final name is oh, yeah, yeah, Chad.

Speaker 5 (01:32:07):
I mean it's it's Christmas vacation.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
It is because you don't say Christmas. You don't Christmas.

Speaker 5 (01:32:16):
But that's not one. Yeah, that was real, dumb.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
You got it. I got I got it, I got one.

Speaker 5 (01:32:28):
You show me the poster and then I got it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:32):
The name of the movie.

Speaker 5 (01:32:35):
Christmas, Yeah, yeah it is.

Speaker 3 (01:32:37):
It was.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
Ten are hard so nine. The first name is Judah Friedlander, Oh, Juda,
of course. The second name is Todd Berry. The third
name is Evan rachel Wood.

Speaker 5 (01:32:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:32:55):
The fourth name is Marissa to May, and the fifth
and final name is Mickey Rourke. Five dam Chatham.

Speaker 5 (01:33:09):
The wrestler.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
It is the wrestler.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
That's good because I was going to say the fighter
like a dummy.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
Well that would have worked with the g h that's
what I was thinking about. I've actually never seen the wrestler.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
It's that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
I mean, it's nowhere nearest set. Is the Iron Claw,
which you saw, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:33:31):
Or the Iron Giant you know right?

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
Yeah you too, all the Iron movies?

Speaker 3 (01:33:38):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
Number ten. The first name is the second name is
John c Riley, okay. The third name is Julianne Moore.

Speaker 3 (01:33:58):
What I was thinking then?

Speaker 1 (01:34:00):
The fourth name is Nicole Kidman, and the fifth and
final name is Meryl Streep.

Speaker 3 (01:34:10):
Oh five four three two God, I feel like I want.

Speaker 1 (01:34:19):
Yeah, this one I do. Nicole Kidman might have won
an Academy Award for this movie. She had a prosthetic
nose and it was for a movie called The Hours.
What the hell's that? Yeah? Came out like probably early
two thousand.

Speaker 5 (01:34:35):
Did you know? I did you know? She was in
that house with the kids and I can't go outside? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:34:42):
No, that's probably others. That's the others others. What And
my bonus was gonna be the silence of the lambs
because you don't say the bee and lambs.

Speaker 3 (01:34:55):
And it's got silence.

Speaker 5 (01:34:56):
That's just because it's silence, because it's the lamb, the
silence of the.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
Idiots. Way to go, Bugs, you're going to tell us
how we do it? Staircase scenes?

Speaker 3 (01:35:11):
How do you know?

Speaker 5 (01:35:12):
Well, well, let's count it up.

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
Do you want to cut? Yeah? How was I ended
with twelve and a half? Chataman with three bugs? Is
really in the zone.

Speaker 3 (01:35:23):
I was feeling good today, you were doing good.

Speaker 5 (01:35:25):
I'm also terrible at remembering who's in what together? Not
even Yeah, if you asked me the box office, you know,
the take or whatever we figured out last time. I'm like, oh,
is that about thirty three million five? Next time?

Speaker 1 (01:35:39):
We'll have to think of that for the next time
you're on.

Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
Yeah, all right, well, YouTube can compete against each other
because that game.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
There you go, I can do what did the worst
usually pretty well?

Speaker 3 (01:35:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
Yeah, yeah, but way to go. You're going to tell
us how we do our top five staircase scenes draft
and just a little it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
That'll be fun. That's for patrons only, so if you
want to hear that, go to patreon dot com slash
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can also go to patreon dot com slash Chris Chatham
and you'll see great stuff like this, perfect beautiful, nicely done.

Speaker 1 (01:36:23):
Right. I'll fix it at post sure, I'll send you
the audio.

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
Everyone's heard what I've released before. They know I don't
fix anything, but make sure to support him. Come to
the organ get away if you haven't done so. I
can get a dim thus music dot com. I think
to get tickets for that, presumably, but otherwise, Yeah, thanks
for coming on, Chatham. It's always a blast to have
your pal's fun.

Speaker 5 (01:36:49):
I had a great time. And I'd like to thank
my publicist and I'd like to thank my mom, and
I'd like to know that's it. That's great, that's a
great time.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
We thank them as well. Thanks for coming on, buddy.

Speaker 3 (01:37:02):
Yeah, that does it today for American Psycho. I'm rob
and be thanking you so much for listening until we
talk to you next time.

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
Enjoy great indo.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
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