The 1996 Best Picture Oscar Winner turns 30 this year and this was a big film for us back in the day. It was also a big film for our guest and friend, Benny Elledge. It was a great time breaking down this film with him. Enjoy!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The sun is shining out a cloud in the sky.
We wouldn't know because we're so happy inside. Some people,
but we would rather sit on down and talk some movies.
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Speaker 2 (00:41):
What is happening? I'm Rob Lundquiz and I annoy or
the Avid Indoorsman. He's right, he's right.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Usually a match, but that seemed like a lot of work.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
It was too much, too much.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Well, I won't go that far.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
That far.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I did like it.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Are your buddies, I'm good, I'm good. How are you?
I'm doing just fine. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I had a nice little vaca out in Portland.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yes, fun.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I know, it's been a while since we've talked. I know, yeah, yeah,
Portland the Chamster. We're out there. Got to see Neil
as well, a lot of podcast friends. Yeah, and man,
we just had a great time. We did we like
hung out, ate food.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
It was lovely. Did so Neil? I know he does
his like burger weak thing. Did he show you any
good burgers?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yes, we had I don't know what was it called
Tulip Tulip Shop or something like that, a really good
smash burger that we had from there that was delicious.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
We also went to a chicken joint.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I should have written all these down, but I didn't.
We went to a chicken joint that was really good,
like a spicy chicken sandwich.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
That was really nice.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
That We had lots of blue star, which I'm sure
you've had, right.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
We have.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I had a lemon poppy seed old fashioned donut.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
You did, Yes, you did, sweet hell? It was good.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
It was delicious, man. Yeah, we had a great time
and I bought We went to Powells and I bought
a sweet set of books. Actually Chance bottom two. We
found all of the so it's the Hobbit and then
the three Lord of the Rings books. And they're bound
in like leather, and they're small. They almost look like
a little bibles.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Many leather bound books.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah, so my apartment smells of rich mahogany right now.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yes see, I'm for it.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
But yeah, they're so cute and small and great.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I love them. A little tangent have you seen the
meme where it shows uh, Martin Freeman and Andy Serkis,
who were in Black Panther together. Yeah, there's a meme
that has those two from Black Panther talking to each
other and it says they got the two token white guys. Nice.
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I have not, but I.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Love that a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I liked it a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
That's really great. Can I take you on another tangent? Yes,
I was in Grand Forks hanging out with my parents.
We were having some fun hospital time, as we do
as people get. There's a restaurant there called the Shire,
and it was so funny because we were looking for
places to go, me and my brother, and you know,
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when you eat out for like, you know, because you're
on the road, when you eat out several days in
a row, you're just like, nothing sounds great. I just
want like a normal meal or whatever. But he was like,
what about this place. It's called the Shire. I don't know,
it looks kind of interesting. And I was like, I'm
in and he was like, you don't want to even
look at the menu and I was like, no, because
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it's named the Shire, so it's got to be about
Lord of the Rings. And he was like, oh it
does say it's movie themes, and it's like, you're damn
right at dust. Yeah, And we went there and it
was awesome and the food was really good, so cool
if you're ever in. I think it's actually technically an
East Grand Forks. They had all I'll send you some pictures.
I even took a selfie rob because you did once
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every day.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I have to put that on the Patreon machine. Yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
But they had all kinds of cool posters and paintings
and it was really neat.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
It must have been owned. It was next to a
theater and they must have owned both. Oh sure, which
is a great idea. But yeah, really cute stuff. East
Grand Forks, the Shire.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
The Shire getting a plug. Yeah, but I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Have you seen any movies lately?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I have? I have, so I didn't know how you are, though.
I've been busy too. We did some stuff out on
the East Coast. We had a gig out there. We
shot a music video. Hell yeah, dude. It was a
really great corporate gig, which you know how those are.
They're pretty hit or miss, and it really is. But
it was a good one. It was a good one.
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Came back immediately, then drove to South Dakota for my
nephew's graduation graduation. It was long and at least it
was extremely windy the entire drive, so I was like
crazy it the whole time. Absolutely, so it was a
little exhausting. But then we came all the way back
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home and through Charlie a birthday party because you just
turned seven years old, and yeah, man, it just felt
like it's been non stop, yeah for the last week. Yeah,
So it was nice to be able to sit down
and watch a very long movie. There is that. But
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I have seen a movie recently, and I know you
had said that Sinners is your favorite film of the
year so far, but I think I've found my favorite
film of the year tell me everything, and it's way
different than Sinners. It is a little independent film called
The Ballad of Wallace Island. Oh I don't even know
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what that is, The Ballad The Ballad of Wallace Island.
The biggest name by far is Carrie Mulligan, but she
does not have a big role. The two main actors
are Tom Basden and Tim Key, and they also happen
to write the movie. Fine, and it's basically a guy
who's got more money than he knows what to do with,
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pays for his favorite musicians.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I saw a preview for this somewhere along the way.
It looked really cute.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
It was good. Huh is wonderful? Oh that's great. The
rich guy is hilarious. He's super upbeat, silly. It's it's
really funny. It touches the heartstrings. I loved it. That's great.
I can't wait to see this. It was a quick watch.
It can be rented now. I'm sure it'll be streaming
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soon enough. Sick, but oh man, I just adored it,
I really and I want to watch the other stuff
that these guys have done. It seems like that tim
Key has done a few things, okay, mostly like British stuff.
I believe. Fun but man, loved it, and you know
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you will all see how they run? He did. I
think I watched that. Yeah, yeah, yeah with Terry Sharon.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah yeah, oh fun. Well, I can't wait to see that.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
You're gonna love it. That sounds right up my alley. Yes,
have you watched any movies?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I watched a fun one. I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I think it was just a rental. I watched it
with our buddy Dave. Uh, we watched the movie Drop.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Have you ever heard of this movie? And I watched it?
Oh you did? You watched? I know it exactly fun.
It was super fun. I really liked it a lot.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
So this is a movie about a young lady who
has like kind of a storied pass that comes up,
you know, throughout the movie you learn about it. But
she's going on like her first date, her first first
date in years, and some crazy stuff happens with the
cell phone technology, and it's like it turns into a
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sort of like a mystery thriller kind of thing where
she has to like she's getting convinced to do you know,
like things to her date and stuff like that and
get roped into craziness and it's all pretty fun.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
But I really liked it.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I thought it was a really effective use of like
the cell phone and then they would put like the
texts and things across the screen so we could see
them as well, you know, while she was reading them.
I really thought that was all cool. It was stylistically
like really interestingly shot. I felt like in a number
of ways they incorporated like uh, CCTV camera shots and
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stuff like that, you know, really well and stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I thought.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I thought it was really fun. Honestly, it was a
it was a pretty interesting time. It was kind of
dumb in points, but like a fun dumb you know,
like a like you and me dumb, you know, just
fun dumb, good time.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Point and but just so much better than I was like,
it's better than.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
It should be.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Agreed, it looks like it's just gonna be dumb and
like ignorable, but it's like, oh no.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
That was good.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
That was fun.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
That was cool.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
That was interesting that Megan Fahi is that her name.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, she was in the second Lotus the second season.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah, second season of that. That was kind of the
only thing I knew her from anyway. Same, I thought
she was great in this show. I thought she was
super believable. She you know, had to be a lot
of emotional states, you know, or be in a lot
of emotional states. I didn't recognize the dude or really
very many other people at all.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I didn't know anybody else, but everyone was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
It was compelling. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I thought it was fun. So same, check it out
if you can. Again.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
That is called Drop Drop and it's a I don't
know don't you think more thriller than like horror movie.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, I wouldn't go full on horror. It's more thriller,
but I mean it's horror aspects, but sure, I would
say thriller. This is the kind of horror movie we like. More.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, like definitely more into that thriller. But I really
enjoyed it, so check it out. How about streaming? Have
you been streaming anything?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yes? And I know you had talked about on a
previous episode, but I finished Daredevil Born Again and it's awesome.
I have the same takes as you. Isn't it fun?
It's so fun, so happy it's back. I can't believe
that they've been able to pick up right where they
left off so many years ago, and like none of
these people have aged, which is incredible upsetting. It's really
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something utt it's crazy. But yeah, Vincent Inafrio is perfect,
Charlie Cox is awesome. It's an amazing show. The fighting
is just that Cooreo is all nuts.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I had so much fun with it.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
And I think they've greenlit season two already, so I
would ready, I would think so. In fact, I think
I just heard someone was confirmed to be back.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
But I won't tell you who ooh old geez, I
know I am, but yeah, that's on the Disney Plus machine.
It's a good time.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
It's really fun, really fun, although graphic, so graphic, especially
when well, yeah it gets graphic.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yes, it's pretty wild. Have you been streaming anything fun?
I have?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I watched Oh, I should have written down where. I'm
pretty sure it was on Max, which I don't know
if you heard is going back to HBO Max.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I did hear that?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I just do that finally started saying the right thing yesterday.
So this fun anyway, Sorry, tangent. I watched Brett Goldstein's
special Second Best Night of Your Life?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
You did? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
It was apparently his first stand up special that he's
ever recorded.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, I would assume I didn't know he was a
stand up. I believe he's done stand up for a
few years, but it was unclear to me. It was
really fun.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I think he's just a really enjoyable guy. He's very charismatic,
but also like super chill. I don't know, he just
seems like a very nice man. Yeah, and he had
some some pretty good stand up, especially for his first
you know, full you know session that he recorded. I
thought it was really good. He had me giggling along
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and I had a great time.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I really like him fun.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, it's definitely worth checking.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Out for sure.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
That guy's killing it man, and nothing like it's not
like clean or anything, but it's also nothing. There's not
really like anythin.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
In it or fi you know.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah, it's just like kind of regular stuff, you know,
like just being a nice guy. So I don't know,
it was really fun.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I liked it cool. Check it out. Check it out.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Uh, you already did yours, So now we're doing plugs.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
That is what we are doing. Nice.
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More often than not, we'll do a top five draft
that pertains to the movie we're talking about, and for
this one we decided to go. But I was shocked
that we hadn't done this surprising, surprising top five movies
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based on a historical figure, so surprising. Maybe we happen.
We just don't know, but maybe it just wasn't worded
that way or something. But that's what we're doing.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
It doesn't matter. We're gonna do it. There's a lot
of them. It turns out there's a lot of them,
so certainly I forgot some, so that'll be fun. Yeah,
look forward to that, Greg coming attractions. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Life is pleased.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Don't when you open yourself up to the universe.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Just don't worry.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
And also sometimes I forget, uh so check that out.
We're here today, though, to talk about a great film,
celebrating it's thirtieth anniversary. This is a little film called
Brave Heart. Yes, man, it is gonna be something else,
and we had to find the bravest heart we could
ever find.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
He's been Rob's pal.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
You guys probably watched the double VHS together a number
of times.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
You know, I don't know if we've watched it together,
now that you say that, I know we both have
seen it a lot, but of course it definitely comes up.
My brain is mushy, though we probably have seen it
together a bunch. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
It's fine. I didn't need to put you in that spot.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It's okay.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
But this is our old pal. He's here to talk
with us. Let's give it up for Benny.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
What's up, Bennie? What's up?
Speaker 5 (15:46):
My brother?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Baby? How are you you? Guys? It's just been so long.
I feel like he's been a minute. Now. Where have
you been? What's the last WHOA would probably tremor is? Yeah,
and that was I think that might have been the
first episode of the year. It's it's it's may you
got to start strong episode. Yeah we did start strong.
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Yeah we did a movie. But yeah, I knew I
wanted you on for this movie.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Oh yeah, my god.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
And so I'm glad. I'm glad we were able to
make this work. I know you are. You're not at
your place.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Yes, I apologies to your your audience. I'm on the
road traveling to Dallas. I've been driving from New York
and uh, and I forgot the cord to my microphone,
so I'm just recording on on my Mac MacBook microphone built.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
It sounds good on the zoom. Man sounding good?
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Well, sure, sure sounds good on the zoom. Everyone not
maybe what you're listening to. But I just I just
feel bad because I know that generally when I'm on
the program, viewership probably.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Jump sikes, big dozens of people. I get it. I
get it.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
That's like fourteen extra moms tune in the dude from
n c I s California. Oh my god, Blue Plots
only shows that women of a certain age.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Yeah, you two really have that that market corner from
both sides, don't sure?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
That's sure?
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Network Network.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Silly cop shows and Acapella Acapella acapella woo.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I used to say that on the cruise ship all
the time. I'd be like, your grandma loves us. I
promise it, she's into it. Oh it's fun. Man, So
you're going down to Dallas? What else is new?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I mean usually you're booking something when you.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Know you have my good luck charms technically, I guess
you are.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
This time, I'm doing U I did it years for years,
but they're trying again to do a Bull Durham the musical.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Oh yeah, I remember you did that.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Yeah, so I'm I'm scheduled to do that in the
fall at paper Mill Playhouse in in New Jersey.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Cool kids.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
So I don't really do a lot in the show,
to be honest.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
But I kind of that's all right, one fun little scene.
But you know, it's a pretty good show.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I will say school.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
There has been a talk of a New York trip
in the fall, so we might have to get those
dates from you.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And then and then have you guys ever done Bull
Durham on this?
Speaker 4 (18:46):
We never have, No, I haven't that field of dreams.
You might have to come and we'll see the show
and then we'll do the Bull Durham pod.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
That'd be super fun, man, would be super fun. I
feel like you have the musical in a minute, huh
since for a while.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Yeah, it's been a hot minute. Maybe we'll get there.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
We'll get We'll get Ron Shelton to come on. That
would be cool, the writer director of Bullet Movie.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah, but he did.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
He wrote the script for the I was just hanging
out with him the other night because we did a
little They did like a reading.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Of it, so I popped in to do that. But yeah,
he's just that guy's a legend.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, that's really cool.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
So I guess technically that. Otherwise, still working on a
video game that can't be named, but I love it.
Other than that, just been auditioning a lot, a lot
of a lot of hard maybees.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah, I love that, you know, career in my dating life,
my friends love that.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Rock hard maybe.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Oh boy, we are.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
We are well. I feel like we might said earlier,
we might go for a while.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
And this one.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Plane is literally to make this longer than the run
time of the film. So, oh God, for all the tangents.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I'm gonna get bathroom breaks.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Well, we're here to talk about the thirtieth anniversary of
Brave Heart and Rob You gotta started with just a
rough sun ups.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
William Wallace is the medieval Scottish patriot who is spurred
into revolt against the English when the love of his
life is slaughtered, leading his army into battles that become
a war. His advance into England threatens King Edward the
first throne, before he is captured and executed, but not
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before becoming a symbol for a free Scotland.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Oh nice, nice, great read read, good read read. Let's
go to rotten to models near what they have to say?
Critics have this coming in a pretty surprising seventy six percent.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
That was that was really surprising. Did they get bombed
later maybe or something? That's got to be a manly way. Yeah,
it's just like I thought I was. I just assumed
it was revered. I don't know it was. It was
up for ten Academy Awards, now Branton Amelia Perez was
up for eleven. And it wasn't fair. It wasn't great,
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that's a fair point. But this was definitely higher, you know,
twenty years ago for sure.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
I just want to say, I just remember to shut
off the air conditioner in my room here in my
hotel room, so hopefully that horrible hum went away.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I was just like I thought, we were, just you know,
passing gas for quite some time, just a real steady
stream steady. But you're right.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I mean the Academy Awards, you know, are an off
and on good or bad judge of what's good.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
So yeah, yeah, that's fair, that's fair Amelia Perez.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, well, it's just you know, why was it a musical?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
It was a crazy story.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
In fact, it would have been probably a really great
movie if it wasn't a musical.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
That's exactly really interesting and well done, I thought, But
then all the singing happened.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
And that was not as good.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
And you know when a bunch of dumb dumbs who
do musicals and sing are like, why it's just a musical?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, you got a problem? Yeah, what did we say?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I've probably said it a dozen times on here, but
I just keep coming back to why would you do
musical if you didn't have good songs nor people who
could sing them?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Well, just that's a real interesting swing. It's really no,
it's really the only requirement. I mean, nobody made you
make it a musical.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Very confusing, very brave heart not a musical, thankfully, although
maybe compelling, I don't know. But audience members had it
up at eighty five percent, so that's honestly closer to
what I thought it would be.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
For sure, for sure this would be more like a
higher critic than and maybe a lower audience.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
But I thought they'd both be at least like a
ninety same.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, it's pretty interesting, pretty interesting. Well, let's go in
and find out what we think.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
It's time for our take.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Oh that's a hot take. That's a hot take.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I see, there's probably fire.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
There's a fire, very very I'll go first.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I loved this movie back in the day, A big
fan of it. I already mentioned once, but the double
VHS was really a move back in.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
The day that could have been one of the last ones, right, yeah, probably.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I can so vividly remember we rented it and I
was like, there's two this is insane.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
We're gonna be here forever. Really fun movie.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Giant set pieces, obviously, with the battles and everything. I
have long loved the Scottish accent. So times.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Loved the Scottish. This is probably where it stemmed from.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Probably fat Bastard for sure, And that was a real
one two punch.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I went hard on the Scottish accent in high school
because of this. Oh yeah, and Treck, you're right, yeah, So.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
I married an axe murderer Robbie. In fact, I always
did the Scottish accent. And at one point in where
Robbie and I went to high school, in our cafeteria,
it was lined with all the flags of the whole world.
And after a marching band event in the summer one time,
Jason Koteki and some dudes jumped up and stole the
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Scottish flag and gave it to me as a gift.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
And that's where it was our freshman year, in our
our in our apartment.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Yeah, the one with the unicorn on it, brecked yep,
the unicorn.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
The Scottish flag. The Scottish animal is a unicorn.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
The flags just blue with like a white the cross
nicorn though, that's the tangent number one.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
But please keep going. Yes, So I really love this movie,
I will say years later the actions of mel Gibson
made this a little harder to watch.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
It feels a little more self indulgent.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
I mean, we just I mean, I'm yeah, we can.
This is kind of part of my hot take. Also,
so oh nice, I look forward. Yeah, you can jump
in now if you want.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I like, it's pretty clear he doesn't love gay people.
Because the Prince was much meaner than I remembered, And
not that that couldn't have existed, but like they just
made it totally incompetent, with just zero percent of anything
to offer.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
We'll just say, I guess, I guess we should just
talk about it now so we don't have to talk
about anymore. Like, Yeah, it makes me upset because I'm
just like Mel Gibson, What the F?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Why in the world? What the F?
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Because when I think of mel Gibson, Yo, when you
think of all the great actors of the ages and ninties,
our top actors, Yeah, for sure, Denzel's and our Tom
Hanks's and our Tom Cruise's. Mel Gibson, I mean when
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I think from Lethal Weapon all the way through the nineties.
He could do drama, he could do comedy, he could
do action, he could do dialects, he could do Shakespeare.
He was the most charming, charismatic dude on screen every
single movie of his. I just was absolutely in love with,
(27:33):
Like he's the only one out of Like when I
think of Denzel, it's like Denzel does Denzel movies, and
that's cool. Tom Cruise does Tom Cruise movies. Tom Hanks
obviously one of our best, but all of them, I
don't think you could interchange them in their movies. Mel Gibson,
I swear to God, could probably play every role that
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those guys played as well as they did. I mean,
he he was as good as it gets at everything,
and it makes me so upset that he just turned
out to be such. Look, I know he had a
lot of substance abuse problems, and I've tried it, like
I'm I try to give him a little grace. I'm
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glad he's like, excuse me, like made a little comeback
or whatever. But I'm just like he was as good
as an actor could be, as good of a movie
star could be.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Like he was a movie star.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
And then he's directing like years before Affleck and anyone
was doing this, Like I guess Costner had done it. Yeah,
but I mean he comes in and gives us this
and even Apocalypto. I mean like, I'm just like, he
is the most talented dude I've.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Ever seen, and he just ruined it. And I love
his movies so much. I love Lethal Weapons so much,
and I can still watch him and I enjoy it.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Oh, you know, it's just so sad.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
It makes me so sad because I cannot believe how
talented he was, just good at everything.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
And also like those blue eyes man's I.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Mean yes, also just incredibly good looking. Yeah, super good looking.
Those eyes were just like piercing, they.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Really were in this movie. It was pretty well. They
definitely pumped up that color crush saturation.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Yeah yeah, but yeah, I honestly the movie is s
dope quite good. It does feel a little more self
indulgent having watched it now.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
But but you know, so good in it.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
It just seems that he's such a dick.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
More than anything like Costner does you know. I mean
this is after after Dances with Wolves, and I'm sure
he watched Dances with Wolves and was like I can
do that and he did. Yeah, you know for sure
Costner is still doing it. I mean I wouldn't say,
I guess my other hot take.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
We're just gonna leave.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Mel aside, which I just want to get it out
of the way because obviously we have to address it.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
But this kind of gave us the contemporary like war epic.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
And I mean like as far as far as like
thousands of extras like crazy because I'm big budget.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, like before they did it to c cgi and stuff. Well,
exactly right.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
And I think like back in the day then the
Golden eight, you know, we had like our ben Hers
and our Lawrence of Arabians. But when you think of
like the seventies and eighties leading into the nineties, like
there were nothing really like this was there. I mean,
Dances with Wolves was a big was a big thing.
Stielberg had a lot of like crazy set pieces, but
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it was never like we have three thousand people out
here and we're gonna run at each other and do
these scenes, which after this, I.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Feel like became a little more of a thing. Yeah. Yeah,
I feel like before this, maybe like Glory Glory, there
was a few things.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
There was a few, but even in those I don't
remember like crazy wide shots where you were like, that's
two thousand dudes, right, But I know they did battle scenes,
but yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Like the two sides facing off really like this movie
really totally. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I will say the one downside to having those giant
battles with real people if you look in the background
of a couple of these scenes. I saw one for
sure where they are fighting tooth and nail and in
the way background I should have clipped it or something.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
But there's a guy going like this to another guy.
He's literally going like yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely saw
that one, just like but hey, it's at the end
of the battle. They're probably weird. Meanwhile, like for six
weeks on your fifteenth.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Watch, I'm just looking in the background finding the people.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
It is true.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
But the like, the cinematics of this movie are wonderful,
really really good. The acting is great, and I love
the I'm always a sucker for like kind of that
warrior poet, you know, kind of like sort of reluctant
hero as well, right that just gets kind of like
cast into this spot. And yeah, his brain as well
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as his brawn and you know all these things, right,
Like those tropes work remarkably well and they're super well
done in this movie. It gives us a ton of
like iconic stuff like the blue face paint and you
know that is.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Still like ubiquitous today, which is so fun.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
I just love all that.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Yeah, I just really love it.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
And I think, honestly my favorite parts of this movie
are the scenery and the music because the score is incredible.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
So good, dude, James Horner. Perfect, It's so good.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Perfect, But yeah, I still really enjoyed it. I was like, oh,
what a bummer, and so many good performances in this
because the people like the King, I hate that guy.
You know, so many people you suck, which means they're
doing a good job. But I think I think my
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hottest take other than the Prince just being totally useless,
is I've just never understood whether you're in battle, you're
lined up?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Why are we running into battle? Can't we just walk there?
You know? That's my hottest take.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Let's just walk that.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yep, that's an avid endorsman take. Right there is right there? Warrior? No, no,
not really, but definitely not a warrior. Yeah no, no no,
I'd be the guy cooking the meal back at the camp.
I'm not running into anything, let alone battle. That's my hot,
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hot take, buddy, very hot take I have for pretty
much the exact same take as yours. I've seen it
so many times. Though it's currently ranked eightieth on the
IMDb Top two fifty. That's good. That's good. Like I said,
it's nominated for ten Academy Awards. It won five of
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them for Makeup, Effects, Cinematography, Best Director, and Best Picture.
Yeah yep, mel Gibson directed it. It was his second
film after The Man Without a Face.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
For acting.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I can look it up. I was just navigating there
because I was just curious. I'll tell you in a second.
I saw that he he just directed that Flight Risk
movie that Wahlberg did. It didn't did yeah, oh funny.
So it didn't look great at all. Didn't look good. No,
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but we'll see. Written by Randall Wallace. He went on
to write and direct The Man in the Iron Mask,
Secretariat and We Were Soldiers, which starred Mel Gibb. It's
it's one of those movies where if on TV, what's up?
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Who directed Man.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
In the Air un Risk? Randa Wallace who wrote this movie?
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Oh okay, sorry, gotcha?
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He went on to like become a
writer director. He was doing both. But yeah, it's one
of those movies where if it's on TV, I end
up watching the whole thing. It happened on the tour
bus in the last year or two where it was
on after I got done with the show, and then
I stayed up until three in the morning watching it.
(35:38):
But yeah, story is amazing. It sounds like the writer
came up with a lot of the plot points to
make it more romantic slash dramatic, not the truth, probably
very fictionalized, which you know, it's happened a super long
time ago, and it's I'm not mad at it. You
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had of the cinematography that was amazing, especially during all
the battle scenes. Again, James Horner was so good. Loved
the cast. It started my appreciation for Brendan Gleeson, who
I adore. Also is barely recognizable for some reason to me,
I know, just that big old beard on his face. Yes,
(36:20):
grows a good beard. That's a very fine beard. Depressed
he hasn't done it more often, honestly, Yeah, seriously, But
it's the funny thing. The funniest thing about him to
me is what's that is that he always reminded me
of your dad. Yeah, I remember you said that. It
is funny. I do love that and I can totally
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see it. Absolutely. Yeah, that's funny. Looks like he's a
tallman as well. Yeah, I would assume the big guy.
Those Gleasons, I think they're taller. But yeah, it's just
been one of my favorite movies for the last thirty years.
So hot take. I was shocked at how long it
took for the scene where they kill William Wallace's wife.
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It was it was over a half hour into the film,
and I just did not remember it moving like that
slowly to start. I feel like they could have shaved
some of that off some you know, it was good
world building, sure, but it just it lasted way longer
than I had remembered.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
It's fun because I would like to jump on and
piggyback on that because I agree, But I I don't
know if I really have a hot take already said.
I feel like it sort of started the modern way we.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Do war movies, certainly like in the Marvel world and.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Stuff like running at each other and doing things.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
But I actually I rewatched it last night and I
was tired, and I was like, I don't know if
I can do this whole three hours. But when I
think of it, it's it's like two hours and fifty
seven minutes. It's a three hour movie. Yeah, But when
I think of things like and look, I love Scorsese,
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and I love a lot of people like Killers of
the Flower Moon or The Irishman or This Last Year,
like the Brutalist, Like I can I could cut out
forty minutes like that, Like no problem. And I will
say this movie for being three hours, I feel like
there are very few places where I think there's downtime.
(38:26):
I agree that if it probably is in that first
half hour, especially with her, but I also think that
she gets killed so fast. You need to we need
to see this love affair blossom otherwise, like we need
to buy that he's going to go on this rage spree,
you know, like yeah, I mean, that's kind of one
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of the only places where I'm like, I guess you
could shave this love love time down a little bit.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
But also I'm like kind of like, we need that.
But after once she dies, they're real. It really just
cooks of the movie. I just couldn't believe how long
it took to get to that, especially when he's a kid.
It was way more kid time it is than I remembered.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
But what's funny is it's still probably only like fifteen minutes,
and if it was Scorsesey, that would be forty minutes, right, Yeah,
And he really just wants you to see what long
Shanks is capable of, so.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
You know it later. But I'm with you, but I
it was more just surprising. I think that you need
that and like, there's so many parts of that that
I love, like when she gives him the flower and
then years later he gives it back to her, just like,
oh that was wonderful. Yeah. I don't think there's any
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wasted time really for the most part. Yeah, for how
long it is? Right right? Right? Because again, like when
I watched Killers of the Flower Moon, I was like, bro,
let's keep it moving.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Yeah, I could have cut twenty minutes out of that
in the first hour, I think. I was like, yeah, yeah,
I do think Gibson was good at directing for sure.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Also, sorry Tangent. Nicholas Cage won
Best Actor that year. That is that is fair. That's fair, And.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Gibson wasn't even he wasn't even nominated, which I think
is interesting.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
He wasn't.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
No, it was Richard Dreyfus for Hollins Opus, Anthony Hopkins Nixon,
Sean Penn Dead Man Walking, and then Massimo Tracy for
The Postman and that was up that posthumous.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Uh that was right? Did the Postman? I think? So? Yeah?
I never actually saw that one. So it's not Postman,
is it.
Speaker 5 (40:53):
It couldn't couldn't have been. Are you saying I ill
Postino or something.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Oh, yes, listed as the Postman original title. Yeah, you
know that makes more sense. Yeah, the Mostman though, right.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yes he did, Yeah, which I like more than we do.
But yeah, I don't think I saw it. It's actually
my only other hot take is that one part that
always took me out of the movie was when he
jumps the horse into the water and that fake ass
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horse is falling. But also it's just so clearly a
stunt double in the first shot. Yeah, it just always
took me out. They did that a lot back then.
It was such an eighties and earlier. Yeah, that's so
funny because then what I thought of when Benny said
nothing could be cut, I was like, we could have
just killed the guy and then done the horse, done
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the horse thing.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
Yeah, for sure, twenty seconds, but that was an unnecessary,
like some weird that's true.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Yeah, Yeah, that's the only part that really took takes
me up. That's all I got, Benny, What you got, buddy,
I mean, you know, I already kind of said it.
Speaker 5 (42:06):
I think this really, I think this really.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
Went next level, took us to the next level with
the war sort of epic war things, even though obviously
it had been done.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
I just think this was a kind of a next
level of.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
Close quarters combat and like seeing huge groups go up
against each other. And yeah, I this movie blew my mind. Yeah,
I saw this in the theater. I don't, I Robbie.
For some reason, I thought I saw it with you,
but I don't think I did now. I can't remember
who I saw it was. I don't think so, but
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I remember like in the like closing scene, the execution scene,
having an audible.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Right.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
It just it just absolutely blew me away. It was
kind of like watching it was kind of like watching
pulp fiction or something like. It changed the way I
thought about movies a little bit totally. Yeah, you know,
and I remember being like Mel Gibson's directing it.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
That's weird.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
That's weird, even though I love Dancing with the Wolves also.
So it just really blew my mind. And I don't
really have a hot take, to be honest. I mean,
I just loved it so much. I watched it so much.
It's a weird thing to watch a lot, but I did.
(43:35):
And I feel like, I feel like, what's funny is
I feel like like eight years ago, roughly I watched
it because I think I showed Stephanie or seven or
six years ago. I showed it to Stephanie because she
had never seen it, and I was like, this, see,
isn't quite as good as I remember it. But then
last night I watched it again and I was like,
(43:57):
this is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
I still like it.
Speaker 5 (44:01):
I don't know, I just think I just think it's.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
It's one of those like it's like so many music
musicians and songs like you. If you dropped this movie
today exactly how it is, I feel like I wouldn't
bad and I'd be like, this is a great movie. Yeah,
it feels pretty timeless. I mean there's not much you know, again,
(44:26):
maybe some background actors c G. I it might look
worse today, honestly, Yeah, you know, I just think it
was such a one of one at the time, even
after Dancing with the Wolves, which was such a such
an accomplishment also, but this was just like another step
the despite the apparently insane historical inaccuracies, yes, yeah, which
(44:53):
which we definitely didn't know about it and we can
talk about when we get to the trivia. I've actually
known about that for quite a while. But yeah, apparently
extremely inaccurate. Yeah, but this is Benny Ilach saying, I
don't give an f Yeah, given don't.
Speaker 5 (45:11):
Care about It's also it's.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Also one of the movie things where it's not even
like it starts with.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
Based on true it doesn't say anything, which which so
many movies are based on true stories, and they take liberties,
which I'm always like, I'm fine with, Like it's a movie,
you should always assume they're like, there's a pretty good
dollop of lies.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
And of course it's more if you're trying to do
that with something that is recent, yes, hundred hundreds of
years ago, of course, you know.
Speaker 4 (45:43):
But so I don't really have a great hot take
other than just mel Gibson making me upset because I
just I'm just was just the biggest fan of all.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
I'm still a fan of watching his work. You know.
It's like going going back and watching Kevin Spacey's stuff.
Spacey is tough, you know, It's it sucks because because
he is amazing hot takes, but yeah, so hot, unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (46:07):
This moviel my.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Mind blew my mind. Yeah for real, I agree, real, Well, yeah,
let's let's let's do our favorite acting performance let's choose
the dude, the dude.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
I'm the dude, so that's what you call me, you
know that, or his dude or duder or you know,
eldudo reno.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
If you're not into the whole brevity thing. Should be
pretty easy. Probably the dude. I mean, obviously it's mel
every scene, damn near.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
I mean, he literally is in every scene. He's so
such a good actor. He's you know, I've heard people
bitch about the dialect, but you know, as an actor,
I'm very I think if you're consistent with it the
whole time, yeah, way more important than and then being
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fully accurate. Yes, And I think he's fine at it.
I don't think he seems out of place with anyone
else that's in the movie.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Right.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
Well, it's not like over the top either, which helps,
you know, I mean, and look like he could have
gone over the top because I've heard Schotlish people from
the Highlands who you're like, are you You're I know
you're speaking English technically, but I can't even understand. Also,
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he has such a good sense of comedy and when
to keep it light. Yes, he would be so easy
for this to be so heavy all the way through
and there's so much just light moments anytime they have.
You know, as an actor, I always tell people, you
know that I get asked, what's if comedy or drama
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is harder or whatever, and I'm like, there literally is
no difference. Just the writing is how I feel like
you should approach it. And in fact, I always say,
when something's really serious, you should try and find the levity,
and when something's funny, you should try to find the
grounded serious moments.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
Which always makes me think of Leslie Nielsen and Naked
Gun because it so serious, you.
Speaker 4 (48:23):
Know, exactly right, And I think Mel in this movie
just really every chance they get to lighten it up,
they do it. And he's just so Also, like who
emotes better on screen than Mel Gibson, I mean really good.
He's just so he's just so intense. I don't know,
he's just unreal. Again, going back to my anger about him.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
There is one scene that always just destroys me. And
it's just he's not saying anything. It's just when he
sees Robert the Bruce is the one that jos did off.
You just see the expression on his face, doesn't say
a thing. You're just like, I know, exactly what you're thinking.
And I saw some of the breaks in the battlefield
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and it's terribly about ye. Yes, yes, that was his
reaction to Mel's faith in that scene. Yeah, it was
so good. And then he's he's just like he just
lays down, like, Okay.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
He acted better later because of Mel's face and that
one freaking scene.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
I mean he has so many he has so many
things that he doesn't is just outstanding. He's outstanding.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah, agreed, And yeah, I was going to say that
bit about that scene that just always just blew me
away that he didn't say a word and I just
know exactly what he's thinking. So so good. Yeah, I
love it, clean sweep.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
I love his acting in this almost as much as
I love the people of Jewish faith, almost as much
as I love l g B t Q people, almost
as much as I love not hitting partners.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
So you know, I love it. I think it's great
and good for him.
Speaker 4 (50:09):
He really hit the tray effected with being a piece
he said, and we're not gonna say it on this podcast,
but if you really go back and look at some
of the things that.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Came out of his mouth, damn, horrible, horrible, horrible.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
He's not great, bro, my god, but he's really a
great actor.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
You know, I don't know how to mel Gibson. We
have to separate him, I guess I don't know.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
But also so yeah, uh that's what I got. But
he is wonderful in this movie for sure. Yea, And
I love a ton of the movies he's directed to, like,
Ridge is good, It's good.
Speaker 6 (50:55):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (50:56):
I didn't see hacksty Ridge till like after the Oscars
that year, because I was like, is this movie right?
I don't even hear anything about this, And I was
just like, this is unbelievable, this is wonderful. It was Apocalypto,
I mean Apocalypto.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
I never saw it was great. I should watch that. Yeah,
fun movie. He's crazy talented, it's stupid.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
Yeah, this cast is giant, though. So let's go in
and talk to his other folks.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Let's name we got for this one, bud it good luck.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
A lot of people to pick from.
Speaker 4 (51:36):
Me.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
Yeah, you sorry? You want me to go first?
Speaker 4 (51:39):
Yes, I'm gonna. I'm gonna zag a bit here. Well,
I'm not gonna sag. I'm just I want to have
the Brandon Gleeson conversation because I'm just I'm so glad
this movie gave us Brandon Gleeson, yes, because it's been
now thirty years of just he's the best. But I'm
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actually gonna I want to go with uh, sorry, what's
his name? At Patrick McGowin, Oh. I think is low
key one of the best movie villains we've ever had.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
I hate him.
Speaker 4 (52:22):
I mean he's horrible, he's great, but like, as an
acting performance, he is so unbelievably good. He never he
never does anything crazy, he never, he's super low key
the whole movie. Yes, but he's just like in charge
of every room. He's in every moment he's ever in
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until his final moment, basically, which makes it all the
more satisfying to.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Watch him die.
Speaker 4 (52:50):
He's he's such an insanely horrible villain, but he's such
a good actor. He's so good at it, and he
could have been so over the top and he didn't.
And you know, a couple of years later, he's the
judge in A Time to Kill, A Time to Kill
I said that, and he's like a southern you know judge,
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and he's kind of a bad guy in that. But
you're you're so ready for him to be as evil
as Longshanks that in that movie he ends up kind
of being like a fair normal judge, but you're just
like scared of him. I'm just like, it's like, what's
his name? As the Warden in Shashank, He's just so
(53:35):
he's so awful that I'm just I just honestly, I
would possibly put him in my top five villains of
all time with Vader and Joker and maybe maybe Shashank. Honestly, yeah, yeah,
I think it would be Vader and Joker and Shashank
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Warden and Yep and s Long Shanks and God, I'd
have to think of the next one, but I think
he's up there. It's one of my favorite villain performances
of all time, and he's again he's also kind of
funny too when he does the.
Speaker 5 (54:16):
End, sir, when we hit, when we hit our own troops,
yes as.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
Well, we have we have reserves. Also, when he's like, oh,
tell me about your your war strategies. That sounds great,
heats that dude out the window.
Speaker 4 (54:35):
Oh dude, And then he's like, well, but couldn't we
couldn't the princess be in danger?
Speaker 5 (54:41):
Yes, I'm sure that would upset my son.
Speaker 2 (54:47):
Can I say that's the one rewrite I would do
to this movie.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
I would just have the son offer up his lady
and be like, because that could have shown that he
had something to offer as the prince.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
To be like, yeah, dad, what do I care? If
if she dies?
Speaker 3 (55:04):
The King of France is going to be pissed.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
I don't want to have sex with her anyway. You
know that would have been so easy.
Speaker 5 (55:11):
I do you think they could have done something else
with him?
Speaker 3 (55:14):
Like if it's not if it's not factually accurate, then what.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (55:23):
So yeah, I'm going with I'm going with long Shaks.
I just think he's truly truly top five villain maybe
of all time.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
He's up there. Yeah, man, that's that's great. I would
maybe cheat and give it to both Brendan Gleason and
James Cosmo because I love.
Speaker 3 (55:41):
That father relationship is the best, also wonderful. His dad
is a terrible warrior. He gets hurt in every single battle.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
I just written down. He rough end of the stick
for him. I mean, a badass for sure, but also
totally he takes an arrow.
Speaker 4 (56:03):
He takes an arrow to the chest in their first
thing ever, then in their first MG battle, he takes
he gets his hand chopped on basically yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
And then in their next MG battle, he just takes
an ACT to the stomach. Yeah, which eventually just leads
to his death.
Speaker 5 (56:19):
But my guy.
Speaker 4 (56:21):
Also while they cauterize his wound. Yes, he's just Also
he's just Scottish Robert Duvall.
Speaker 5 (56:30):
Which I've always loved like that.
Speaker 2 (56:33):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (56:34):
Yeah, Yeah, those two are so good though.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
Two, They're so fun. I love them so much. Yeah,
it broke my heart love that. What do you have you?
Speaker 3 (56:47):
I love David O'Hara, he'd be right there, Irish dude.
He's my favorite Steve.
Speaker 4 (56:54):
I think he's so good in this and he's just
like again that little bit of comedy that we need
various points.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
He's just a really cool he's the funniest part. By absolutely,
it's a better character intro than him. I do so good.
It's so good. That would have been a good top
five best character intro. Really good. That would have been
fun because yeah, his is perfect. Man.
Speaker 4 (57:25):
Really quickly they get to they give you the fake
out where yes, it looks like he's gonna try and
kill Wallace. It's the opposite and that all happens in
like five minutes. Yeah, did that guy do anything else?
Speaker 2 (57:43):
Why? Dude, I was just going to say, I'm usually
pretty good with faces. He is in the Departed, and
the dude that is him, Well he's he does the
Citizens Bank thing. He's part of that whole du you
(58:08):
just my brain. I know, obviously that's him. Now I'm like,
of course that's him. It's totally him.
Speaker 4 (58:16):
Wow, when you asked him how he could have known,
it was exactly crap. Of course that's him.
Speaker 2 (58:26):
I never put that together episode.
Speaker 5 (58:30):
Yeah, that is crazy as.
Speaker 2 (58:35):
He is an airy Potter and he's the Albert Runcorn. Uh,
he's one of the people they take over there. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, right,
you're right. Yeah, the black leather jacket, it's different. Oh
my gosh.
Speaker 4 (58:55):
And see what's funny is I just rewatched all of
Harry Potter with Stephanie because she wanted to. And when
I watched it, I was like, oh, that's the dude
from the Departed. That's great.
Speaker 2 (59:04):
Yeah, God, that Robbie. That's a great call.
Speaker 5 (59:09):
I didn't realize that that's I can't believe I.
Speaker 2 (59:12):
Never put that together. Yeah, I blew my mind. Love
that he was wonderful in this He's so good. He's
just great. Special shout out to Michael Byrne or Byron
who is the one who goes after Mel's wife or
his lady friends. Horrible and all I put was, I
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hate this dude, yes, but he's really good.
Speaker 3 (59:38):
And it's like two seconds, but it was so.
Speaker 2 (59:40):
Funny even on the rewatch. Just the first time I
saw his face as one of the guards, I was like, Yeah,
that guy, just like that guy.
Speaker 4 (59:50):
Can I just say I wanted to talk about this
quick because just because that her death is one of
the like the worst movie deaths ever for me. I
think it's strangely because they almost don't make that big
of a deal about it cinematically, Like there's no there's
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no big music build, there's no music at all. They
don't shocking, they don't show William Wallace like watching from
a distance and having a breakdown. They don't even show
her parents like freaking out or anything. Like, there's nothing.
It's so quick and cold and horrible, and it makes
it feel so.
Speaker 5 (01:00:33):
Much more real.
Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
The fact that it's just that's how quick it like
really was always so just disturbing to me. More than
a normal, like big cinematic death because and it's the
it's the the catalyst for the entire story. Yeah, but
the way he chose to shoot it and present it
is so skilling and real and it's like, yeah, it's terrible, it's.
Speaker 5 (01:01:00):
Terrible, agreed. I just wanted to.
Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Say it because I just it's always hitting, yeah, dude,
and makes it so much more shocking for sure.
Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Yeah, just to just to piggyback off what rob said
right away. Uh, I thought Young William was really good
and was in it for way longer than I remember.
But I thought that little kid actor James Robinson was
his name. He was really talented.
Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
I thought he It looks like he's still doing stuff too.
He's been working. Yeah, No, no, I don't, Leo. I
don't think he's done a lot of big stuff, and
I think it's mostly British TV. Yeah, still still doing it.
That's always for him though there's a million others, but
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that's all. Yeah. Angus mcfaden is Robert the Bruce. You
got to bring him up. I love how he acted.
I hated Robert the Bruce, pretty unlikable. Yeah, until he
finally man, Yeah, it took too long, Yeah, way too great. Great,
But we have to talk about Brendan Gleeson. Yeah, I
(01:02:09):
mean well I said I I was pretty much gonna,
uh too tie it with yeah, yeah, with James Cosmo.
But yeah, so good.
Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
I mean, like, look what we got from Brendan Gleeson
for the next man. His son's awesome too.
Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
His son is so good, which we all know. That's
how you said. We know it's Donal, Yes that.
Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
I didn't know, but man, Brendan Gleeson what a also
just like it just kind of came out of nowhere too.
Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Udeah and one of the like you said, one of
the best careers, maybe of the last twenty years, easily thirty.
Speaker 5 (01:02:49):
I guess he's just so good.
Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
Every time he shows up, you're like, oh, yes, there standing, Yeah, yeah,
he is great, perfect.
Speaker 5 (01:03:00):
Yeah. He always reminded me of Robbie's dad always.
Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
I love that. Yeah, that's funny. There's like two women
in this movie, and one of them is Sophie Marcel.
Pretty great, wonderful, beautiful, very great. You know who also great?
What's his name with the scar on his face. He's
been a lot of fun. Tommy Flanagin, Chips, Red and
(01:03:23):
Sons of Anarchy, a bunch of blinder. He's Russell Crows
guy and Gladiator. Yep. He's had a nice little career too. Yeah,
them and Brian Cox pretty small roles.
Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
But you bring cocks.
Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
Boy because he he already was had his career going
at this point, but it was more like theater and
little movie things. But talk about coming in and crushing
it for two quicks. I mean literally everything, everything that
comes out of his mouth is unbelievably awesome.
Speaker 5 (01:03:58):
Perfect. Yes, here's like six lines.
Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
And they're all incredible. Yeah, I mean one was pretty
intense or you're just like, well, I bet you didn't
want your dad.
Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
You didn't want your father to die, but he did,
didn't he? But also like, first, learn to use this this,
I'll teach you how to use this, and he did.
Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
Them like they're whatever in their own way, playing out
log tunes on out loud pipes.
Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:04:30):
Yeah, he's unbelievable. Yea, he's unbelievable. Two seconds in a movie,
I'm just like this guy, this guy's gonna be someone.
Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
Yeah, why does he look exactly the same rightsome looking roy?
Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Mister Roy? Yeah? What's his first name? And that I
forget uh something?
Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
Yuh yeah what Logan Roy Logan Logan Roy.
Speaker 5 (01:04:59):
But yeah, man, I'm thank you for bringing that up.
I wanted to bring it. It's unbelievable, unseerious.
Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
People just coming in hot for five minutes and just
crushing and you just immediately like get where he learned
when when he says the you don't speak Latin, that's
something left to remedy, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Yeah, like you was like, oh man, so good this
this movie.
Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
This movie does a lot of cool stuff like that
where they don't like they do that. And then he
comes back and it's so easy for you to know, like,
oh he he went and learned from this dude. Like
everything he does you're not surprised by.
Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
They fill in the blanks without like explicitly telling you
right like they just yeah, it's very it's very well
again well directed.
Speaker 4 (01:05:50):
He's just really like, I don't because you know, if
it's score s easier someone it's like I.
Speaker 5 (01:05:55):
Need to show this.
Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
I need to show is growing up montage. You know
a lot of people would want to show that. Yeah,
and it's kind of awesome that it just doesn't happen.
Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
It's great. Yep, Uh. The only other person I wrote
down was the Royal magistrate who is like the executioner.
His name is David Gant. But I always thought I
was like, that guy has one of the best voices
that I've ever heard, and that he killed it like
(01:06:26):
on the theater some theater shows, for sure. Yes, dude,
I always just thought he had a really cool speaking voice.
But yeah, that's about it. I think one of the guys, uh,
what's his name, one of the one of the other.
Speaker 5 (01:06:49):
Clan nobles.
Speaker 4 (01:06:50):
Yeah, it was like original Thenardier and Lames, rob and stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Oh really mm hmmm.
Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
I think the one he kills right before the he
jumps his horse into the water bugs. His favorite favorite
scene scene, What's So Dumb Likes was cool. It's just
always funny when they do these movies with all these
like British people and then they like have these little
small parts and then you look and they're like, oh,
they're just an incredible stage actor or something. They've only
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been doing them for sixty years or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Yeah, it's just amazing. Yeah, that's fun. Well, let's move
on to our favorite scenes. I feel like this is
going to take a minute, and let's choose the Dingus.
So think it's quite simple, really ingus, ingus. I could
talk about my dingus all night long.
Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
I'll go first just to piggyback off where what we
were just saying about, uh not explaining stuff. I mean
right after his wife gets killed and his initial rolling in, yeah,
and their first assault basically on them one, you're just
(01:08:09):
like ready, so ready to watch them get murdered. But
also again it seems like and again, tell me what
you think. It seems to me like that's like a
coordinated attack absolutely because William comes in and does its thing.
And I used to think though though other guys just
(01:08:29):
kind of jumped in, but now when I watch it,
I'm like, no, they they like talked.
Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
About this.
Speaker 5 (01:08:36):
Because they're all ready to go.
Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
They have a plan, they do their thing, and it's
which is amazing because it shows you how great they
all work together and what's about to happen coming up.
But I just I love again that they just do
it and they don't explain it, and you're just you're
so messed up from what what you just watched that
(01:08:59):
you're so ready for some revenge and it's just like
let's go, and it just sets off the whole thing,
and then he brings the dude out and slits his
throat on the Yeah, so I want to I just
wanted to mention that, but I would say my favorite
scene is probably the Sterling just battle. I feel like
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that just encompasses the whole movie from start to finish.
Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
It's like, that's what Braveheart is.
Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
If if you want to tell someone what Brave Heart is,
you would just say, we're gonna watch this fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
You get the speech, you get the you get the
whole the whole deal.
Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
You understand what's who they are compared to all the
other you understand what the rest of Scotland feels about this.
Everyone's very passive. We don't want to get involved. They
got those two guys. Speaking of that, one guy ended
up being in Westworld and in Ozark if you remember him,
he's like the older guy.
Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Oh, the.
Speaker 4 (01:10:05):
The guy who looks like strangely looks like Will Ferrell,
who's like, we're not dying for these Bostards.
Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Yeah, oh that guy.
Speaker 4 (01:10:12):
Yes, Peter Mulley, right, Yeah, in that sweet West World
episode where he's in the world, been in Ozark where
he's like, what's her name's husband, right, he's a great actor,
just playing a tiny little turn.
Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Yeah. So yeah, i'd probably say the sterling just sequences
my absolutely, dude. Yeah, that's that's for sure, I will say.
So that's the one where they also where they have
the big spears right and they're like, we're gonna make
them huge. Y.
Speaker 5 (01:10:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
I do feel like there's they've messed up in the
editing at one point in there where like they're they're
charging at them and it's like the hold and all that,
which I've said oh yeah, oh yeah a billion times,
but I feel like they they cut to the spears
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too early, like they give you a flash of it
before they actually reveal it. And I didn't go back
and check, but I I felt like I saw it,
and I've always felt like, I think you're right because
it's like spears, no spears, spears and then it is.
Speaker 5 (01:11:27):
To be fair, there's a few of.
Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Those in this movie. There's a few continuity errors. Yeah,
Like there's one.
Speaker 4 (01:11:33):
In that where there's one where he got his sword
out and they're charging and then he cuts back and
he's got it in. And also there's a there's a
famous mess up where you can see a truck at
one point, really really yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
I didn't see that that that's really it's really quick,
but it's there. That's like the Starbucks and Game of Thrones, there's.
Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
A there's a there's a great gend off one where
he's wearing a wristwatch.
Speaker 5 (01:12:02):
Yes, fighting maze.
Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Yeah, but that's just a weird thing because that's just editing,
Like that's that's just they and it's only for like
a quick second that they go to it, and it's
like such a big reveal that I was always surprised
that that was lifted. But I do agree that's for
sure the number one. The second scene, the second scene
(01:12:27):
that I think of the most with this is just
that ending torture scene. It's uh, just nuts, him coming
in them throwing all the food at him, and just
how it goes from like yeah, so quiet and all
you can hear is just the the creaky wheels of
the thing that he's coming in on, and then a
(01:12:50):
dude spits and it's just like Mayhem from then on,
and uh.
Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
Yeah, it's just so by the end there on the side,
he's like Rocky for he's got the Russians. Even the
thing he does with the kid like looking at the kid.
Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Yeah, of such great man. I've never noticed that before.
Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
But that felt like that was uh, kind of the
same as him seeing the people in the beginning, right
when he's a kid and seeing how they you know,
like massacred all these folks when they were just supposed
to be having a reading. Because this time I was like, oh,
is that supposed to say, like this kid is now
going to be the future one who's fighting for you know,
(01:13:35):
like freedom.
Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
That's that's what it was. But it felt like that
I'd never noticed that before.
Speaker 5 (01:13:42):
It makes a ton of sense if that's what it was. Yeah,
that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
That's a great scene though hard to watch, but a
great hard to watch.
Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
Having the like the little people act that out beforehand
makes it so they don't have to show.
Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
It, but we absolutely know what they're doing. Smart too,
like the disemboling exact exactly. Yeah, honestly, I mean we
wouldn't have been able to watch that. No, it's too much. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:14:13):
What's funny about that, though, is I'm on the brink
of tears that whole scene. And then what fine and
what always has and it still did last night, What
finally pushes me over the edges is Brendan Gleason going,
william just saying, just say it. From then to the credits,
(01:14:34):
I'm from yes, Yes, and David O'Hara just closes his
eyes like that.
Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
So good, unbelievable. Yeah, absolutely, it's just incredible. And the music,
the music in that So the score.
Speaker 5 (01:14:55):
Of this movie is Banda's good.
Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
It's so great.
Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
Yeah, like is as good as it gets outside of
the John Williams world.
Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
I mean yeah, yeah, you guys have said every scene
that I have, which is great. Oh god.
Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
The only one we haven't said is the well I
guess we talked talked about it earlier with David O'Hara,
the introduction of the irishman.
Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Ye come to that hunting scene, which is like kind
of the bait and switch. So good.
Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
It's so well done and really great and even you know,
like I always love a scene that even when you
know what's going to happen and you're rewatching it and
you're like, yeah, I can see why I thought that
was going to be that guy, Like they really they
really made us think that was what was happening.
Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
And it's just so good. And he's just such a kook.
Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
It's really fun. I love perfect scene so much.
Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
That was great, it's so so, so good. Yeah, I
had some more written down, but we've already talked about it.
Just Ralas avenching his wife's death in the very beginning. Yes, yes,
I mean I was.
Speaker 4 (01:16:04):
I was thinking about other revenge movies like you know,
Man on Fire and things like that. I'm just like, God,
has there been a more just like I'm so I'm
so behind you to just yeah, f up this whole
crew right now.
Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Let's go. When they killed John Wick's dog, yeah, yes,
I was ready for that, to kill every single one
of those people, every one of them. I had mentioned
it already, But when Wallace sees Robert the Bruce is
is completely betrayed. That scene is so nuts just for
the acting. Also loved before that when he's like, unite
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the Clantons, you know, like that speech, like you can
do it. Another scene that I've always loved is when
long Shanks he can't speak anymore. Oh yeah, Sas is
whispering into his ear just like it's so bad ass?
(01:17:07):
Is she insinuating that it's William Wallace's kid? Yes, okay,
so oh yeah, yeah for sure. And he can't talk
about it because he's can't speak anymore, and just starts
wheezing real hard.
Speaker 6 (01:17:22):
And I love this.
Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
He's telling him. I get that he gets disembowled, but
he gets to impregnant a lady and then go meet
his other lady on the other side.
Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
Not a terrible day for William other than the disemboweling,
not a great general torture, not a great A bad day.
Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
It's pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
Okay, it's a pretty bad It's it's a bad day.
The racking, racking. Well, you know this.
Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
I don't want to run into battle, let alone be tortured.
Speaker 5 (01:18:04):
No, he's right, that's dude.
Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
That emblem would have had so many kiss marks on
it from my lips. Why why were you wearing so
much lips your execution?
Speaker 5 (01:18:21):
It's yeah, look, because you wanted to look for best in.
Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
This guy's movie. I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 4 (01:18:30):
The funny thing is those like every like every scene
is so great, Like even the fact that they have
the scene where where he says the will make spears. Yeah, yeah,
so long you know he does. And that's kind of
a throwaway, a little moment, and you forget about it
by the time all of a sudden it happens, you know,
(01:18:51):
like ship, Oh yeah, they talked about this, yeah, I
mean yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
Can I say one more fun scene that I really like,
I forgot about when he comes back and Hamish is
like kind of like yeah yeah, like challenging his manhood
and he throws the rock and he's like, I should
remember the rock.
Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
He's like, yeah, you should. It's so good. It's really good.
Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
Also U seamous and his dad's death scene isak wonderful.
Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Jesus.
Speaker 5 (01:19:27):
Yeah that one yeah, big time boo hoos.
Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
Yeah, I mean they're all so good, Like, I mean,
they're so good. Every Long Shanks scene, yeah, he's great.
The one where he throws the guy out the window
is one of the amazing.
Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
Because you're also that's also one of those moments. He's
such a great villain. That's almost jokery.
Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
You're like.
Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
At the window yet like the you know what Long
Shanks he's got there annoying sucks like window.
Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
I am trained in the oppos of flaw Fader. He's like, oh,
are you cool? Cool here? How neat are your thoughts on?
Are you training? That would have been a good life trained?
And they're like whoa. But you know, I just again,
(01:20:24):
I always think it's a mark of a good villain
where I'm like, I love it, I love it everything.
Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
I kind of like it.
Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
Yeah, but I also just love watching you. You're so good.
Yeah yeah, I love that well, very good.
Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
I think we all agreed on that big battle scene.
Speaker 4 (01:20:42):
I just do things start to finish. It's like you
could you could tell someone what the whole movie is
about if you just showed them that like twenty minutes. Absolutely, yeah,
well it could be like a short film.
Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
Hell yeah, let's talk about some of our favorite quotes.
Let's time to show me the mony, Penny say some quotes.
Speaker 5 (01:21:10):
You should go first.
Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
I'm scared computer because the whole I mean so good.
I mean the the.
Speaker 4 (01:21:22):
Ultimate obviously every man dies and every man really lives.
That was that was the poster, the poster.
Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Love it.
Speaker 5 (01:21:31):
That's something with shoft remedy.
Speaker 4 (01:21:34):
Like there's the things that like I said, like I
say that still like in life sometimes like like it
didn't work.
Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Well, that's something left to remedy, isn't it. Totally? I
love that you guys, go ahead, so definitely taking the
love you always you know where they rock a good
one of that is in basketball.
Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
Yes, all right, it's so perfect.
Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
I love you, I always have, always half it's really good.
I'm gonna wait for Benny to do the Sterling speech.
Hell yeah, agreed, Oh bro, I won't. No, I think
you will. I want you to. You have bled with Wallace,
no bleed with me? Yeah, pretty great, pretty great. The
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Almighty tells me you can get me out of this mess.
But he's pretty sure you're okay. So he's pretty sure.
Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
And then his laugh after that is so good when
he's just like, it's such a goofy laugh.
Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
It's also I loved his I'm a most wanted man
on my island you mean Ireland.
Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
Yeah, it's mine, it's and then they bring it back
when he said I can't worry about the Irish.
Speaker 5 (01:23:08):
It's like I said, it's my Ireland, Ireland.
Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
Yeah, oh that's great.
Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
I'm prettier than this man. Oh it's so good. Gott
Will Moss, I'm prettier than this man. Oh god, it's
so good. There's so many you can say, some bukes.
Speaker 5 (01:23:33):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
When he goes, uh, they to like take her for
the horse ride or whatever, and her pants are like
are you.
Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
Out to your mind? It's randomly they're.
Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
Like the weather stair was like, oh, it's good Scottish weather, madam.
The rain is falling straight down, oh slightly to the
sidelike when he says that, I just really loved that,
and she's.
Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
Like, it's fine, it's barely raindom. It's so great. She
takes after you. It takes after you. Let's see. Oh
I love Oh go ahead, go ahead, No, no, you
go ahead.
Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
I was just after he takes the arrow, the the
man who is the worst fighter in the whole army,
the dad. But come on, but he takes the arrow
and they're you know, they want to they want to
scour the wound or whatever. They're like, he just keeps people,
just keep handing it to the next person. They're like, here,
you can do it. I'll hold him down. And then
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he's like, hands it to the you know, to chips,
and he's like, you do it. I'll hold him down,
and then he throws them.
Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
All off in like two seconds. It's great love. That
is William Wallace.
Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
Yes, I've heard he kills men by the hundreds. And
if you're here, consume the English with fireballs from his
eyes and bolts of lightning from his arse.
Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
It was like deadline.
Speaker 7 (01:24:58):
William Wallace, and I see a whole atomy of in
defiance of tyranny. It's them to fight as free men,
and free men you.
Speaker 5 (01:25:10):
Are with that freedom.
Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
What do you fight? I fight and you may die,
run and you'll live at least a while and doing
in your beds many years from now.
Speaker 8 (01:25:26):
Would you be willing to train all the days from
this day to that for one chance, just one chance,
come back and tell our enemies that they may take
our lives, but they'll never take.
Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Hell. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:25:44):
Yeah, it's the best ever. It's it's so it's like
the great I compare it. I'm like, I'm like, there's
like war speeches and sports speeches and movies.
Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
They're kind of the same thing. It's like, it's just
right up there with the you know, it's as good
as it gets, agreed. I think they said was in
the top one hundred. Ever, at least in some bowl
one hundred. It was in the top one hundred of
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all of cinema. There's lots of good ones, some good ones,
good ones. I don't remember what it was on the list,
but I know it was in the top.
Speaker 4 (01:26:31):
I like, there's a difference between us. You think the
people of this country exist to provide you with position.
I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.
Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
I love that. You know, maybe maybe applies today to
certain countries. You know, maybe I don't know.
Speaker 5 (01:26:50):
Not a political podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
But I'm just saying, oh, no, we're hard right now.
Speaker 5 (01:26:54):
You didn't hear oh copy that?
Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
Well, then it does not apply hard right.
Speaker 4 (01:27:02):
I also loved when he is like, uh, what does
he say at the one point personal escort of the princess?
Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
I must have made an infection. I didn't think you
were in the tenth that long? Yeah, I love that.
That's pretty great Brandon, just being oh that came vain
the some men are longer than others. Your mother been
(01:27:31):
telling you stories about that is pretty great. That's pretty great.
Speaker 4 (01:27:38):
We should still say sometimes at work, will be like,
I have something with you, do something really well, We'll.
Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
Go send new to the victory.
Speaker 5 (01:27:46):
Shall we retire?
Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Yes? Yes, that's great.
Speaker 5 (01:27:50):
Shall we retire?
Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (01:27:55):
I was I loved the one where he was like
to find himself an equal and irishman must have forced
to talk with God.
Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
Yeah, I mean literally every single thing.
Speaker 5 (01:28:05):
He says, yeah in the in the movie, I also
do that. I still also do that.
Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
After after he goes and your father sees you too,
and he punches them. Yeah, and then that Steven just
goes to himself.
Speaker 4 (01:28:20):
He goes Jesus, Like Jesus, every single thing out of
his mouth is his gold.
Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
God, he's so good.
Speaker 4 (01:28:34):
He has like he has like a page of dialogue
in this movie, and he just absolutely crushes perfect.
Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
God, it's perfect. I can remember seeing this movie with
my dad and this was I guess I was young
enough that I didn't know what she was referencing. But
they're talking in French and she says englishmen don't know
what a tongue is for. And I remember my dad saying, oh,
she's not, And I was like, I don't know what
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do you mean you mean, I don't follow. Oh that's it, Fred,
you beautiful son of a bitch. That's what I was
gonna say. That's it.
Speaker 4 (01:29:21):
That's a movie thing that I always loved when when
someone speaks another language and then our hero just knows
the language and knows what he said.
Speaker 5 (01:29:30):
So anytime, anytime that happens in the movie, I'm like, ah.
Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, our hero smart.
Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
Uh my last one that I wrote down, But I
just love it's way at the beginning the little kid
when he's like I can fight, and he's like, I know,
I know you can fight, but it's our wits that
make us men.
Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
And I love that line and we already we already
talked about it. But literally everything that Brian coxs pipes
that you said earlier is so good. I'm just trying. Yeah,
and I know you said it.
Speaker 5 (01:30:08):
But first learn to use this. Yeah, I'll teach how
to use this.
Speaker 4 (01:30:15):
God, it's like three lines and you're just and again,
we don't need any we don't need a growing up montage.
Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
We don't need anything ready, we need a montage. I
mean so many people would have done that, and I'm
just like, we need it. It's so good. We do
get some running through Scotland montages in this though, so
that's fun, really cool shots though. It's worth item so beautiful, man,
I mean, the.
Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
Sematography is outstanding. There are some crazy show you know.
The one, the one I think that's been copied to
is is when they're just getting going and then the
English guys are one of them gets hit on the
head with a rock and then there's that big ridge
come up over the line like that's been done now
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since then and it.
Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
Looks so amazing to just appear on the up on
the ridge. Really fun.
Speaker 5 (01:31:15):
There's so many incredible shots.
Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
My god, the the hand, the hand dropping, the the
from from the cross. Yeah, that's such a that's such
an oscar shot. It really is beautiful.
Speaker 5 (01:31:37):
Grace is that they do. He jams the sword in
the ground after sterling, and.
Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
Then that ends up being the final the final shot.
Speaker 4 (01:31:48):
And throwing the sword at the end when I'm just
when I'm fully weeping, and then and then them slow.
Speaker 5 (01:31:59):
Towards the camera.
Speaker 4 (01:32:02):
They fought like warrior poets. They fought like Scotsman had
won their freedoms. I mean that warrior Poets is one
of the greatest lines that. Yeah, good god, crying.
Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
To the movie. Yeah, well, speaking of crying, is it
time to go into the Bieks' boo who moments? I think,
I think that's a good good job.
Speaker 5 (01:32:22):
We don't even have we don't even have times.
Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
I did I picked a Leavin Oh yeah, okay, okay,
healthy and a lot of them.
Speaker 5 (01:32:37):
It was going to be double digits.
Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
Yeah, a lot of them are really early, so I'm
not sure, so we'll double check here. When young William
Wallace sees all of those dudes hanged, yeah for sure. Yeah,
that was a lot, a lot. Then when his dad dies,
of course, uh, the little girl slash his future wife
(01:33:00):
giving him the flower at the funeral, beautiful love it.
When the bride of Tommy flan again goes with the
English guy on the night of their wedding. Yes, that
was intense. So that whole idea is terrible brutal. Yeah,
(01:33:24):
I love you always have. Yeah, I love you always have.
When he kisses his wife then before she's buried, so
I guess. Yeah, it was so shocking. If you actually
cried during the the death scene or not, that's funny.
(01:33:45):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (01:33:47):
It's too shocking.
Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:33:51):
Again, it's it's not because they don't make it cinematic.
Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
They make it so real.
Speaker 5 (01:33:56):
Yeah, but it's so shocking.
Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
Because it's not.
Speaker 3 (01:33:59):
It's like at that funeral where he kisses her and
then he like kneels before the parents and the dad
like wants to hit him, but he's just like, yeah,
you know, like all the things.
Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
That's so great. Then I think some movie it's a
long time until the next cry, which is when Wallace
sees that Robert the Bruce has betrayed him. Oh okay, yes,
that did get me. Yes, okay, I must have been
missed something. When Brendan Gleeson is with his dying dad
(01:34:32):
and says, you know, I'm a happy man. I'm proud
of the man you've become.
Speaker 6 (01:34:38):
Lord.
Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
Yes, when she when she tells him to take the
drink to dull his pain, and he explains, yeah, yeah,
he needs to keep his wits from there to the
rest of the film pretty much. So then I said
the execution and which we didn't even say.
Speaker 6 (01:35:02):
But we talk about you're right but yes, free and
then dumb it should be a little dumb, but it's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
It's not. It's just incredible. I do agree that the
like most heartbreaking moment of that is just say the word,
just say you know, just like uh yeah, I know
those because yeah, it was so much. But then the
last one is you bled with Wallace, now bleed with me?
(01:35:35):
Hell yeah, oh hell yeah. Until the credits, Yeah, until
there are two more that we didn't say two more more.
It's not the you have more two more? Yep. Wait,
so is it.
Speaker 4 (01:35:54):
Is it outlawed outlawed tunes without a loud pipes or
does that count as fathers?
Speaker 3 (01:35:59):
I kind of count of that with the brother and
dad part. I think because they're pretty they're pretty quick
in succession. Yeah, I will say, so you have to
One of them is hype tears for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
Oh so a battle, Oh I get that. I get that. Yeah,
Oh arguably maybe both are. It's gonna be the Sterling
battle then yeah, well wait wait is it the speech?
The Sterling speech? The speech they'll.
Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
Take our lives, but they'll never take our freedom.
Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
That's for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:36:36):
One more before that, and I think it's when they're
maybe parlaying before that, but when he goes back and
he's like, you go.
Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
Back and tell them blah blah blah, you tell them
Scotland is free. And he's just like, oh, you know,
like when first I think that's when she first he
was talking to it's that one and it's like, no,
you can go back and tell him this, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:37:00):
Because he's just so like fiery in that moment.
Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
I really liked that too.
Speaker 9 (01:37:05):
Yeah, he's like slaves are made like yes, yes, yeah,
yeah that scene. Yeah, so yeah, thirteen I think is
what we ended with thirteen thirteen thirteen. That's honestly the
most in a long time.
Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
That's fine, my my. I was thinking about it.
Speaker 4 (01:37:21):
I was like, my over under probably would have been
like ten. Oral up, yeah, it would have been my like, yeah,
thirteen seems reason under where.
Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
We at because it was like a three hour movie.
Speaker 5 (01:37:31):
I mean also, it's a three hour movie.
Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
So yeah, yeah, but uh, it's no Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 3 (01:37:38):
But what is truly?
Speaker 2 (01:37:39):
What is? What is? There's been another, not twenty more,
it's not. But but what's amazing is is that it
didn't require three movies. It yeah, it does.
Speaker 4 (01:37:49):
It does all this in one movie, which I'm with
you on Lord of the Rings, but you know, it's
it's amazing that they did this and in one.
Speaker 2 (01:37:59):
Yeah, pretty wild.
Speaker 4 (01:38:02):
Let's go do some movie Trurivia trivia, let's see. Mel
Gibson initially turned down the role of William Ross, feeling
that he was too old for the part. He was
thirty eight at the.
Speaker 3 (01:38:13):
Time, while the real William Walls died at thirty five,
but Paramount Pictures said they would only film finance the
film if he starred in it, so he finally agreed
that's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
Sorry, he was thirty eight, and he didn't want to
do it because the real William Walls just died at
thirty five.
Speaker 3 (01:38:32):
Well, he died at thirty five, which means he was like,
you know, fighting, probably a.
Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
Decade younger than thirty eight. We got like thirty year
olds playing high school kids. Ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (01:38:43):
Yeah, so I would assume everyone back then looked about
twenty years older than they actually were.
Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
Probably, yeah, probably, let's see. In a two thousand and
nine interview with The Daily Mail, Gibson admitted that the
film was heavily fictitious, but claimed that they had all
been The changes had been made for dramatic effect, and
again he said that he just felt like he was
a little bit too old to play him. But I
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thought that was interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
I thought this was fun.
Speaker 3 (01:39:17):
On set, one of the film's weary extras reportedly mistook
one of Mel Gibson's own children on set for an
Errand boy and asked him to bring him a cup
of tea. And Gibson was within earshot, and he just
nodded and whispered to his son go get it for him.
So I thought that was kind of sweet.
Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
Errand boy, he thought he was like someone just run
around like a child laborer. Well it was Gibson's picture
you that that's true. I don't know. Everyone gets their
own Everyone gets their own child assistant.
Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
Don't worry, no worry, said young Charles out no worries,
uh Mel. Gibson later so many jokes that are inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (01:40:05):
Regarding this film.
Speaker 3 (01:40:07):
Gibson later said, some people said in the telling of
the story, we messed up history. But it doesn't bother
me because I'm giving you a cinematic experience. He thinks
that films are there first to entertain, then teach that inspire,
And I.
Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
Was like, yeah, go seem it's fine.
Speaker 5 (01:40:22):
I completely agree with that.
Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
I have no issue with that, honestly, you know, especially when,
like you said, they're not saying it's like totally true
right off the bat.
Speaker 4 (01:40:32):
And even even when they do say that they they
take a lot of liberties. And also like the whole
idea is based on a true story. It's like, yes,
we're taking some liberties. Like I hate when people get
mad about that kind of stuff. I'm like, we're watching
a movie, Like Robby just said, go watch a documentary.
(01:40:53):
Make a doc like this is you know it's based,
it's based, yes.
Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
But say, I've heard this one is is wildly inaccurate, right, wildly,
like I've heard like like everything about it is is
pretty inaccurate. But yeah, well and I've heard I always
heard that Robert the Bruce was pretty revered.
Speaker 4 (01:41:17):
Yes, so they didn't love that portrayal, apparently, the Scottish folks. Yeah, right,
but to be fair, you know, as we know history,
what does that even mean? I mean, you know, who's
to know what's really real? Like, I mean, the truth
is most everyone is bastards and cool to some.
Speaker 3 (01:41:33):
People at some point in their life, right, pretty much?
Of course, I thought this was fun. Wallace's two most
trusted captains throughout the films are Hamish, who is Scottish,
and Steven, who is Irish. But Hamish was played by
an Irish actor Brendan Gleeson, and Stephen by a Scottish actor,
David O'Hara, So that's just kind of a fun. It's
fun swapsy uh. Up to sixteen hundred extras were used
(01:41:59):
for the Battles Means, which is nuts cool, and most
were members of the f c A, the Reserve Irish
Army different companies usually come from the same area, and
apparently rivalries are coming within this so apparently some of
the battle scenes they say are far more realistic than
(01:42:19):
originally intended, with rival companies trying to beat the lard
out of each other.
Speaker 2 (01:42:24):
So that was not those guys we saw that were
just like they were those guys. Those guys just came
for free, free lunch.
Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
Absolutely, we get a sandwich, I'm in. And the reason
that the Reserve Irish Army was in it was most
of this film was filmed in Ireland, actually not Scotland,
so that was interesting. But the Battle of Sterling in
the film is a it's a historic fact that this
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battle happened, but in reality it was a battle of
the Starling Bridge and the Scottish Army lured the English
onto the field that was largely enclosed by the River
Forth and it was only accessible from us from the
south by a small bridge that barely allowed you know,
two horses walking side by side. They hid around the
(01:43:17):
northern bank until a bunch of them had crossed over
the English army and then they attacked and so then
they had the jump on them and they couldn't retreat
and all these things, and apparently one of the a local,
asked mel Gibson why the Battle of Sterling Bridge was
filmed on an open plane, and apparently mel Gibson replied with,
(01:43:39):
well the bridge got in the way, and all the
local said was I that's what the English found, which
I thought was a pretty good response, like, yeah, they
felt that way too, which is funny.
Speaker 2 (01:43:51):
That was cute. What else we got?
Speaker 3 (01:43:54):
Mel Gibson was investigated by the animal welfare organization because
they were convince that the fake horses used were real.
Only when Gibson's one of his assistants, provided videotaped footage
of the location shooting were they convinced otherwise. And in fact,
the mechanical horses designed for the battle sequences weighed two
hundred pounds and were fueled by nitrogen cylinders, propelling them
(01:44:18):
at thirty miles an hour on twenty foot tracks.
Speaker 4 (01:44:20):
Yeah, I would love to see behind the scenes, which
saying when they hit with the spears.
Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
Oh yeah, probably the scenes for sure. Crazy I thought
about that time.
Speaker 5 (01:44:33):
How they did this?
Speaker 3 (01:44:35):
Yeah, really interesting, but they did a good job, I guess,
which is cool.
Speaker 2 (01:44:42):
Oh, this was fun.
Speaker 3 (01:44:43):
Meil Gibson was on the set of Ransom when Braveheart
and A Paull thirteen were both nominated for Best Picture,
and he pulled a prank on A Pall thirteen director
Ron Howard and producer Brian Grazer by giving them an
ad that claimed that Braveheart was actually considered for Best
Moonshot and then it had a picture of it that
it showed the Scottish Army mooning the English that that
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was just pretty funny. That's a great it's a good job.
That's a great job for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:45:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (01:45:12):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:45:13):
The worst they spent several months filming all the battle scenes.
The worst injuries suffered on set was a broken nose,
which is actually pretty remarkable.
Speaker 2 (01:45:22):
That is very remarkable. We didn't even really talk about
how intense the battle scenes were and how grad they're nuts,
And I remember at the time just being like, oh
my god, like it was horrifying. At the time.
Speaker 3 (01:45:39):
I always remember that one shot with the pick axe
the helmet, and then it's like, yes, crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:45:46):
I should have brought that up.
Speaker 4 (01:45:47):
When I was talking about Oh, I thought it kind
of started the contemporary.
Speaker 5 (01:45:53):
Sort of war.
Speaker 2 (01:45:55):
Yeah, that's a good call.
Speaker 4 (01:45:56):
Movie, because I mean, it really was the first time
we saw that kind of razy graphic violence, so brutal.
Speaker 3 (01:46:03):
Yes, that setting, I guess his hand getting chopped off
and like tons get limbs.
Speaker 4 (01:46:11):
Yeah, totally, yeah, And they do such a good job
of making it so fast and furious that you just
like see it and then it's on to the next thing.
Speaker 2 (01:46:21):
It's just so you know.
Speaker 4 (01:46:23):
I think about then Stielberg a few years later doing
Saving Private Ryan, and I'm sure he was like, Okay,
I see we.
Speaker 2 (01:46:30):
Can, yeah, we can up, we can really, we can
really get in it here, like and they did, did
he And they did?
Speaker 3 (01:46:38):
Yeah, no kidding, we said this earlier. But the sequence
when Hamish throws Wallace's sword into the air and the
last battle you know, which ended up being kind of
the last shot that was improvised that was not originally
written into the script, which is pretty cool, but apparently.
Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
Sometimes they don't believe those kind of things like that.
That's a big.
Speaker 5 (01:47:01):
Choice to make it is.
Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
This line.
Speaker 3 (01:47:07):
I think Also, just because it wasn't scripted doesn't mean
they like he did it once when it wasn't scripted,
and then they went back and like really beat by
beat figured out how to shoot it all that right, probably.
Speaker 2 (01:47:20):
But also yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:47:21):
But also the reason I don't really buy that is
that Wallace jams the sword in at the end of
the Sterling battle.
Speaker 2 (01:47:29):
True. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4 (01:47:31):
The sword the sword landing is the final shot of
the movie. I'm like, there's just like to me, I'm like,
there's no way that wasn't planned that we're gonna we're
gonna bring back this shot unless they filmed Maybe it wasn't.
Maybe it wasn't that he was gonna throw it, but.
Speaker 2 (01:47:47):
Maybe it was filmed out of sequence.
Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
I don't maybe that's why, and so they were like, maybe,
well you did throw that and that was badass, so
maybe we have him do that.
Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
But yeah, that was the sword ending is a separate
shot of him. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:48:03):
Yeah, that's a good point. I'm kind of with you,
you know, it seems a little like, well, but it's
fun to think.
Speaker 4 (01:48:09):
About sometimes sometimes when they say things are improv I'm like,
when it's like an essential part of the story, I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:48:18):
Like me, yeah, yeah, yeah again, but you're right, it
could have been out of sequence. Who knows. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:48:27):
Uh, apparently Gibson really hanged himself for a moment during
the death scene, like they went a little too long
a little too hard apparently, and he had to be
cut down. And he says, all I remember is waking
up with a lot of people standing over me. So
maybe that led to him future actions.
Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
Who knows. He was depleted of oxygen for a while,
perhaps perhaps brain damage. But that's intense.
Speaker 3 (01:48:57):
Yeah, and the every man dies, not every man really lives.
The famous quote is attributed to Braveheart character, but it
was actually authored by the nineteenth century American poet William
Ross Wallace, famous for writing the poem The Hand that
Rocks the Cradle is the Hand that rules the world.
Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
And apparently he.
Speaker 3 (01:49:19):
Has no relation to William Wallace. Isn't that strange? I
was just like, it's a weird fact. Yeah, that's very weird,
very interesting. There was a lot of trivia, but that
was all I had.
Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
Yeah, I had a few things. Just Sean Connery turned
down the role of King Edward the first because he
was filming just cause.
Speaker 3 (01:49:43):
But also Sean Connery only ever spoken a Scottish accent,
so that would have been interesting.
Speaker 4 (01:49:48):
We're going to say, you have a Scottish guy who
only speaks in Scottish beat.
Speaker 5 (01:49:53):
Yeah, so Conry could never have been that evil.
Speaker 2 (01:49:56):
No way. Yeah, it would have been weird for sure.
Gibson wanted Jason Patrick to play William Wallace initially. Do
I know Jason Patrick, He did the Speed two sequel,
he did Sleepers. They wanted he wanted him to do
(01:50:19):
it when he wasn't gonna be playing him initially, Mel Gibson,
So was he always going to direct me?
Speaker 5 (01:50:26):
Tad direct and then and then didn't want he will
finance it?
Speaker 2 (01:50:31):
Yeah, they wouldn't finance it without him as the lead role. Yeah,
I wouldn't either. That's ridiculous, bro, especially at that point.
Speaker 4 (01:50:42):
Like also they I would have been like, we just
watched Kevin Costner do this like four years ago, well
when they shot it, probably three years ago, Like we
just watched Kevin Passon do this?
Speaker 2 (01:50:56):
Why would you not do this? Interesting?
Speaker 4 (01:50:59):
You Like, it's crazy that he wouldn't just do it,
right a man? Yeah, I appreciate that he was trying to,
you know, whatever, but come on, man.
Speaker 2 (01:51:13):
Another thing that I found interesting, And I don't know
how true this is, but it says he turned down
James Bond and Gold and I due to commit commitments
with this film. So they're saying that he was going
to be a Bond not an English person do that.
(01:51:33):
I don't know. It seems crazy the like he would
have done it instead of Pierce Brosna. They're saying that
he turned it down. So that does that timeline work out?
When was Golden Eye around this time? Same time? Yeah,
(01:51:57):
that was crazy. That would be a way different take
on Bond. I guess which they ended up doing. But yeah,
And one thing that I just thought was interesting is
that Randa Wallace would soon become a father for the
first time. So in order to be able to tell
his children about their heritage, one day he started to
learn about his family history. He traced their origins back
(01:52:18):
to Edinburgh, and during a visit there in eighty three,
he came across the statue of William Wallace outside of
Edinburgh Castle. He had never heard of the fourteenth century
figure shared his name, but was intrigued enough by the
stories told to him about Scotland's greatest hero to research
the story as much as possible, which eventually led him
to writing the scripts for the movie. Interesting was like
(01:52:41):
hit Randall, Yeah the same Yeah, so that seems weird,
but they didn't say if he actually was related. But
I just thought that was kind of interesting. What did
you What were the other movies?
Speaker 4 (01:52:55):
You said?
Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
Then he did Randa Wallace, he wrecked it and wrote
The Man in the Iron Mask ye, which is great
for the other ones. Yeah, Secretariat I think was one
of them. Oh and we were Soldiers with mel Gibson, Yeah,
with me, which also was a pretty s solid, solid
(01:53:21):
war movie. That was all I have though for Trivia Nice.
Do you have anything else, Benny? No, No, I didn't.
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (01:53:28):
I didn't have time.
Speaker 2 (01:53:30):
No, you're good man. Will there be a sequel Judgment Day? Yes? Absolutely? Yes?
Speaker 4 (01:53:37):
Which one I think the I think Hollywood is pining
for mel Gibson to reprised his role as a ghost.
I think this is I think this is a hard
no hard.
Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
Maybe. But in twenty nineteen, Angus mcphadon, who played Robert
the Bruce, made a film called Robert the Bruce Fun.
Speaker 5 (01:54:04):
Yeah, he played him again.
Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
He played him again. That's cool really? Yeah, like married
Harris was in it and none of us have heard
of it though. Yeah. Interesting right, clearly that did not
get a US release in any way. Not sure. I
do love some Jared, I do love some Jared Harris.
So that's legit.
Speaker 4 (01:54:26):
Yeah, dude, I was kind of hoping they were going
to cast him as Dumbledore.
Speaker 2 (01:54:31):
Yeah, that would have been great in the h In
the HBO been really fun, right, Yeah, I don't really
know any other. Oh, Patrick, fugit isn't it. That's weird,
you said, Jared Harris, Right, yeah, yeah, he's great. It
(01:54:53):
doesn't say how many. Yeah, five thousand people that rated
it on IMDb, which is never not a great grand
sign for the audience.
Speaker 4 (01:55:03):
I only said that about Dumbledore because his father played
Dumbledore originally and then he died and ruined everything because
I hate Michael Gammon.
Speaker 5 (01:55:14):
You hate him. I hate him so much.
Speaker 2 (01:55:17):
He did suck to be fair and so great. But hey,
guess what now we get our guy Live the Gal.
Speaker 4 (01:55:25):
Oh yeah, mister list Gal, who will never disappoint anyone
in anything.
Speaker 2 (01:55:31):
So no, yeah, he's old scared.
Speaker 5 (01:55:35):
He's just so scared.
Speaker 2 (01:55:37):
Well, speaking of all these actors' names, you guys want
to play a game? My god? Yeah, Well, I made
a starting five for you guys, and you know how
this works. I'm going to name five actors from a film.
When you know the film, you're going to ring in
with your name if you get it wrong, there's no
negative points, but you won't be able to guess again
for that movie. If there are actors' names remaining, you
(01:55:58):
can guess those for a point each. The other person
can steal if you get any of those names wrong.
And all of these films have something in common. When
you know the theme, you can ring in at any
time for a point.
Speaker 4 (01:56:08):
Oh yeah, Robbie, Just so you know, I feel my
voice is a little delayed, so I'm gonna also use
my hand.
Speaker 10 (01:56:15):
Okay, cool, Just you know, just so you know, I
got hello, Well played, sir, Well.
Speaker 2 (01:56:37):
Well shall we retire? That's fun, battless one. All right,
let's play this game. The first name Lewis Pullman.
Speaker 5 (01:56:54):
Benny, Damn Benny, Benny.
Speaker 2 (01:56:59):
Yeah, I said, yeah, Ben. It is not that Maverick.
It's not Maverick. Maverick. It's still not Maverick. Can you
hear me? Are you just mad? Or can you not
hear him? You have a bell?
Speaker 4 (01:57:17):
Damn it, I'm on a crazy delay all of a sudden,
it's going it out.
Speaker 2 (01:57:24):
Okay, so it is not Maverick. Are you with me? Okay? Okay,
damn yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:57:34):
Hard.
Speaker 2 (01:57:37):
You also said your name do you want to go.
Speaker 3 (01:57:39):
Well, now, I'm scared that I got the wrong name.
Can I hear the second name?
Speaker 2 (01:57:46):
Yes, you can hear the second name. The second name
is Sebastian Stoka. Is it Thunderbolts. It's Thunderbolts. Yes, yeah,
like you have warm Florence Pierre.
Speaker 9 (01:58:04):
Correct, David Harber correct, Julia Louise Drives.
Speaker 2 (01:58:11):
We got four points to start it off. That's gonna
go right away. You guys scared that wasn't his name. No,
you're good, all right, let's go to number two. The
first name is Dame Judy Dench. The second name is
(01:58:33):
Naomi Harris. Benny, Benny, I got, I got you sky Fall.
It is Skyfall. And you have three names remaining.
Speaker 5 (01:58:54):
Daniel Craig correct.
Speaker 4 (01:58:57):
Uh uh.
Speaker 2 (01:59:00):
Uh oh, damn it. I'm so impressed you got it
after Naomi Harris. So please get these namesco. I don't
have any idea. It's uh.
Speaker 5 (01:59:15):
Freaking your bard.
Speaker 2 (01:59:19):
And one more name five four three two one oh oh.
I didn't actually pick Albert Finnie, but he was debating
between picking Albert Finnie and Naomi Harris. But what were
(01:59:40):
you going to say? Ray Fines?
Speaker 5 (01:59:42):
Isn't he in this it is Ray.
Speaker 2 (01:59:44):
You got Ray, so three for Bennie, one for Bukes.
Nicely done. Do we know what it is yet? After Thunderbolts?
Since Benny Benny single word word look at you, look
at you. That's exactly a compound another point for Benny
(02:00:08):
it is. It's a one word title and it's a
compound word. So there's.
Speaker 3 (02:00:14):
Compound words.
Speaker 2 (02:00:16):
I didn't think that would come up on today's podcast.
I like it. Yeah, nice, all right, Well that might help,
it might not. Number three. I'll be surprised if you
get it. After the first two names. The first name
Karan Sony s O N I. The second name is
(02:00:40):
ed Screen or Scrine s k R E I N nobody. Okay, cool.
Number three you'll know this name t J.
Speaker 4 (02:00:54):
Miller, Bukes, bennysus, I got bugs.
Speaker 3 (02:01:01):
It's probably yeah, probably delay, but I'm gonna take I'm
delayed so much.
Speaker 2 (02:01:09):
You said it it's a deadpool. You're correct. Yeah, you
got two names remaining. Ryan Reynolds correct. Oh, probably the lady,
but I don't know her name offhand. Probably the lady,
firefly lady. That is her for three two marine, I
(02:01:31):
don't know. Oh, yeah, you're close, Benny, do you know
who that is. I don't remember her name, Marina bakerin
I was.
Speaker 11 (02:01:41):
Gonna say back at something. Okay, yeah, two second delay. Yeah,
that's not how I hear it. We got two more
for Bukes.
Speaker 2 (02:01:57):
Let's see we're good. Number four. The first name can
you hear? Can't hear? That died completely on you? Can
you hear? Benny? Sorry, I'm back, everything went out? Okay, okay,
(02:02:18):
here now a little bit okay, sweet, Yeah, we're back,
but we're frozen. I'm sorry. This is awful. You're good man.
Number four.
Speaker 4 (02:02:25):
The first first game I'm winning against Benny, and all
of a sudden, I don't I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (02:02:34):
The first name is Michael O'Keefe. The second name is
Ted Knight. The third name is Rodney danger Field Benny,
(02:02:54):
Benny Saddy Shack. Caddy Shack is correct. You have two
names remaining, Bill Murray, Chevy Chase, three points for Betty.
Nicely done. Let's go to number five. The first name
is John Hurt Benny No, yeah, let's not do that.
(02:03:20):
The second name is Jamie Bell who that is the third?
Well you record? The third name is Ed Harris. Sorry?
Speaker 6 (02:03:35):
What was that?
Speaker 5 (02:03:36):
Ed?
Speaker 2 (02:03:36):
Who? Ed Harris, sorry before? What were the first ones again?
John Hurt, Jamie bell Ed Harris, thank you. The fourth
name is Tilda Swinton, and the fifth and final name
(02:04:00):
is Chris Evans five four three two one, Oh Benny,
it's uh oh my god. The train Yeah, oh I
(02:04:23):
got it now? Yeah? Nice? Damn it? No, I just
go ahead. It's sharp, it goes through something, it really hit. Yeah,
you got it?
Speaker 6 (02:04:38):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (02:04:39):
Snow Piercer SnO, can help me out on that? Then
it went away? Yeah, that's funny. Where are we after five?
I have eight? Benny A seven.
Speaker 5 (02:04:54):
It's a close one.
Speaker 3 (02:04:55):
It's a All I need is technical difficulties.
Speaker 2 (02:04:58):
And I got it. You got this in the bag, bro,
all right. Number six. The first name is the aforementioned
Bill Murray. The second name is Abigail Breslin. Uh uh.
Speaker 8 (02:05:20):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:05:20):
The third name is Woody Harrelson. What is it called?
Bukes o Bukes? Zombie Land? Zombie Land? Start with Murray?
Speaker 5 (02:05:33):
That messed me up?
Speaker 2 (02:05:35):
Yeah. Two names remaining Emma Stone correct. One more name
the guy just directly the movie three two one God Benny.
Who is Jesse Eisenberger's correct? Two ferbugs one for Benny poop.
(02:06:02):
Let's go to number seven. The first name is Bill Hayter.
Bughs this.
Speaker 3 (02:06:12):
Oh no, that's too early. Shoot, well, I just guess
you don't have to say it now. Yeah, I'd like
to hear another name, because I think that's too early
for the movie.
Speaker 2 (02:06:21):
I was thinking, Okay, uh, you can back out number two. Yeah,
you can back up. You didn't say anything. Number two.
Emma Stone again, bukes different movie super bad, super Bad?
What was the movie you were thinking?
Speaker 4 (02:06:39):
I was thinking of train Wreck because that's also what
he would be. Second Bill right or whatever?
Speaker 2 (02:06:45):
And there right? Yeah, yeah, three names from Michael Sarah,
Jonah Hill, seth Rogen. Two of those are correct, one
is not, except it's Michael Sarah Jonah Hill.
Speaker 6 (02:07:02):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:07:02):
And we have Emma Stone and Bill Hayter. Who is
the fifth name there? Of course? Shoot, I got that.
It's not it's not oh Nick Love, Yes, yeah, I
know his name to no, damn it.
Speaker 3 (02:07:23):
I sometimes remember.
Speaker 2 (02:07:26):
I don't know damn it. It's three three names, yeah,
it's three three for.
Speaker 5 (02:07:32):
Plot.
Speaker 2 (02:07:34):
Got it?
Speaker 5 (02:07:36):
So then he gets one.
Speaker 2 (02:07:37):
There you got Jonah Hill, Michael Sarah is super bad. Yep.
We'll see how you do on number eight I think
it'll take a little bit. H The first name is
David McCullough, who is a very famous writer of non
(02:07:58):
fiction events. He narrates this film. The second name is
Chris Cooper Cooper. The third name is Elizabeth Banks, the
fourth name is Jeff Bridges, and the fifth and final
(02:08:23):
name is Toby Maguire. Benny Benny Sea Biscuit, Sea Biscuits.
That's nice. Yeah, I never saw that? Is it great?
I did? I saw it one time. Yeah, it was good.
It was up for some words. Definitely, definitely a watch. Yeah.
(02:08:47):
I wouldn't have got it till Toby for sure. All right.
I probably wouldn't have got this one either. Number nine.
The first name is Wentworth Miller. He was the star
of the prison Break series if you ever watched that.
The second name is Bill Nye, who we love. Yeah.
(02:09:11):
The third name is Michael Sheen. The fourth name is
Scott Speedman, and the fifth and final name is Kate Beckinsale.
Benny Benny Underworld, Underworld, Yeah. Nice? Where are we going
(02:09:38):
into ten? I have thirteen? Benny has eleven? Oh man,
oh man, alright. Number ten. The first name is Michael
go It's G O U G. H So it might
be GOFF, but I think it's go I don't know, Yeah,
(02:09:58):
you might have. The second name is Billy D. Williams,
Billy D, Billy D. The third name is Kim Basinger,
Benny Benny, Benny, Benny Batman, Batman. Two names remaining Michael Keaton,
(02:10:23):
Jack Nicholson for the win. He won with the technical difficulties.
Nicely done, Broa, nicely done, Buddy, and he went off
(02:10:46):
screen perfectly. That was That's wonderful. Nice job. Way to go, Benny.
You're gonna tell us how we do our top five
movies based on his court historical figure drafts easy for
me to say, and but that's just going to be
for our patrons. That's right.
Speaker 3 (02:11:02):
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It's tons of fun. I promise you'll love it. Penny.
Thanks so much for coming on, Buddy. It's always a blast,
you guys.
Speaker 4 (02:11:16):
Unbelievable. One of the best movies ever. Damn it Mel,
Why are you?
Speaker 2 (02:11:21):
Damn it damn it Mel, damn it Mal? But man,
what a what a film.
Speaker 3 (02:11:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:11:28):
Really happy to be here. Happy to be bad buddy.
Speaker 5 (02:11:31):
It's good to be back in Burbank.
Speaker 2 (02:11:33):
Johnny love that.
Speaker 3 (02:11:39):
Stay tuned, ladies and gentlemen for another great movie coming
up for you next week. You'll find out when we do.
Speaker 2 (02:11:44):
What it is Lucky, it'll be good.
Speaker 3 (02:11:47):
Uh yeah, And that does it today. For a breat heart,
I'm Rob Lone quizt I'm Bukes. Thank you guy so
much for listening. Until we talk to you next time.
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Speaker 3 (00:51):
Usually a match, but that seemed like a lot of work.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
It was too much, too much.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Well, I won't go that far.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
That far.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I did like it.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Are your buddies, I'm good, I'm good. How are you?
I'm doing just fine. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I had a nice little vaca out in Portland.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yes, fun.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I know, it's been a while since we've talked. I know, yeah, yeah,
Portland the Chamster. We're out there. Got to see Neil
as well, a lot of podcast friends. Yeah, and man,
we just had a great time. We did we like
hung out, ate food.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
It was lovely. Did so Neil? I know he does
his like burger weak thing. Did he show you any
good burgers?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yes, we had I don't know what was it called
Tulip Tulip Shop or something like that, a really good
smash burger that we had from there that was delicious.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
We also went to a chicken joint.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I should have written all these down, but I didn't.
We went to a chicken joint that was really good,
like a spicy chicken sandwich.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
That was really nice.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
That We had lots of blue star, which I'm sure
you've had, right.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
We have.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I had a lemon poppy seed old fashioned donut.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
You did, Yes, you did, sweet hell? It was good.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
It was delicious, man. Yeah, we had a great time
and I bought We went to Powells and I bought
a sweet set of books. Actually Chance bottom two. We
found all of the so it's the Hobbit and then
the three Lord of the Rings books. And they're bound
in like leather, and they're small. They almost look like
a little bibles.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Many leather bound books.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah, so my apartment smells of rich mahogany right now.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yes see, I'm for it.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
But yeah, they're so cute and small and great.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I love them. A little tangent have you seen the
meme where it shows uh, Martin Freeman and Andy Serkis,
who were in Black Panther together. Yeah, there's a meme
that has those two from Black Panther talking to each
other and it says they got the two token white guys. Nice.
(03:15):
I have not, but I.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Love that a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I liked it a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
That's really great. Can I take you on another tangent? Yes,
I was in Grand Forks hanging out with my parents.
We were having some fun hospital time, as we do
as people get. There's a restaurant there called the Shire,
and it was so funny because we were looking for
places to go, me and my brother, and you know,
(03:39):
when you eat out for like, you know, because you're
on the road, when you eat out several days in
a row, you're just like, nothing sounds great. I just
want like a normal meal or whatever. But he was like,
what about this place. It's called the Shire. I don't know,
it looks kind of interesting. And I was like, I'm
in and he was like, you don't want to even
look at the menu and I was like, no, because
(04:00):
it's named the Shire, so it's got to be about
Lord of the Rings. And he was like, oh it
does say it's movie themes, and it's like, you're damn
right at dust. Yeah, And we went there and it
was awesome and the food was really good, so cool
if you're ever in. I think it's actually technically an
East Grand Forks. They had all I'll send you some pictures.
I even took a selfie rob because you did once
(04:21):
every day.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I have to put that on the Patreon machine. Yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
But they had all kinds of cool posters and paintings
and it was really neat.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
It must have been owned. It was next to a
theater and they must have owned both. Oh sure, which
is a great idea. But yeah, really cute stuff. East
Grand Forks, the Shire.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
The Shire getting a plug. Yeah, but I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Have you seen any movies lately?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I have? I have, so I didn't know how you are, though.
I've been busy too. We did some stuff out on
the East Coast. We had a gig out there. We
shot a music video. Hell yeah, dude. It was a
really great corporate gig, which you know how those are.
They're pretty hit or miss, and it really is. But
it was a good one. It was a good one.
(05:07):
Came back immediately, then drove to South Dakota for my
nephew's graduation graduation. It was long and at least it
was extremely windy the entire drive, so I was like
crazy it the whole time. Absolutely, so it was a
little exhausting. But then we came all the way back
(05:30):
home and through Charlie a birthday party because you just
turned seven years old, and yeah, man, it just felt
like it's been non stop, yeah for the last week. Yeah,
So it was nice to be able to sit down
and watch a very long movie. There is that. But
(05:52):
I have seen a movie recently, and I know you
had said that Sinners is your favorite film of the
year so far, but I think I've found my favorite
film of the year tell me everything, and it's way
different than Sinners. It is a little independent film called
The Ballad of Wallace Island. Oh I don't even know
(06:14):
what that is, The Ballad The Ballad of Wallace Island.
The biggest name by far is Carrie Mulligan, but she
does not have a big role. The two main actors
are Tom Basden and Tim Key, and they also happen
to write the movie. Fine, and it's basically a guy
who's got more money than he knows what to do with,
(06:37):
pays for his favorite musicians.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I saw a preview for this somewhere along the way.
It looked really cute.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
It was good. Huh is wonderful? Oh that's great. The
rich guy is hilarious. He's super upbeat, silly. It's it's
really funny. It touches the heartstrings. I loved it. That's great.
I can't wait to see this. It was a quick watch.
It can be rented now. I'm sure it'll be streaming
(07:07):
soon enough. Sick, but oh man, I just adored it,
I really and I want to watch the other stuff
that these guys have done. It seems like that tim
Key has done a few things, okay, mostly like British stuff.
I believe. Fun but man, loved it, and you know
(07:28):
you will all see how they run? He did. I
think I watched that. Yeah, yeah, yeah with Terry Sharon.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah yeah, oh fun. Well, I can't wait to see that.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
You're gonna love it. That sounds right up my alley. Yes,
have you watched any movies?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I watched a fun one. I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I think it was just a rental. I watched it
with our buddy Dave. Uh, we watched the movie Drop.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Have you ever heard of this movie? And I watched it?
Oh you did? You watched? I know it exactly fun.
It was super fun. I really liked it a lot.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
So this is a movie about a young lady who
has like kind of a storied pass that comes up,
you know, throughout the movie you learn about it. But
she's going on like her first date, her first first
date in years, and some crazy stuff happens with the
cell phone technology, and it's like it turns into a
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sort of like a mystery thriller kind of thing where
she has to like she's getting convinced to do you know,
like things to her date and stuff like that and
get roped into craziness and it's all pretty fun.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
But I really liked it.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I thought it was a really effective use of like
the cell phone and then they would put like the
texts and things across the screen so we could see
them as well, you know, while she was reading them.
I really thought that was all cool. It was stylistically
like really interestingly shot. I felt like in a number
of ways they incorporated like uh, CCTV camera shots and
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stuff like that, you know, really well and stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I thought.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I thought it was really fun. Honestly, it was a
it was a pretty interesting time. It was kind of
dumb in points, but like a fun dumb you know,
like a like you and me dumb, you know, just
fun dumb, good time.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Point and but just so much better than I was like,
it's better than.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
It should be.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Agreed, it looks like it's just gonna be dumb and
like ignorable, but it's like, oh no.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
That was good.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
That was fun.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
That was cool.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
That was interesting that Megan Fahi is that her name.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, she was in the second Lotus the second season.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah, second season of that. That was kind of the
only thing I knew her from anyway. Same, I thought
she was great in this show. I thought she was
super believable. She you know, had to be a lot
of emotional states, you know, or be in a lot
of emotional states. I didn't recognize the dude or really
very many other people at all.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I didn't know anybody else, but everyone was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
It was compelling. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I thought it was fun. So same, check it out
if you can. Again.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
That is called Drop Drop and it's a I don't
know don't you think more thriller than like horror movie.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, I wouldn't go full on horror. It's more thriller,
but I mean it's horror aspects, but sure, I would
say thriller. This is the kind of horror movie we like. More.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, like definitely more into that thriller. But I really
enjoyed it, so check it out. How about streaming? Have
you been streaming anything?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yes? And I know you had talked about on a
previous episode, but I finished Daredevil Born Again and it's awesome.
I have the same takes as you. Isn't it fun?
It's so fun, so happy it's back. I can't believe
that they've been able to pick up right where they
left off so many years ago, and like none of
these people have aged, which is incredible upsetting. It's really
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something utt it's crazy. But yeah, Vincent Inafrio is perfect,
Charlie Cox is awesome. It's an amazing show. The fighting
is just that Cooreo is all nuts.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I had so much fun with it.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
And I think they've greenlit season two already, so I
would ready, I would think so. In fact, I think
I just heard someone was confirmed to be back.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
But I won't tell you who ooh old geez, I
know I am, but yeah, that's on the Disney Plus machine.
It's a good time.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
It's really fun, really fun, although graphic, so graphic, especially
when well, yeah it gets graphic.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yes, it's pretty wild. Have you been streaming anything fun?
I have?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I watched Oh, I should have written down where. I'm
pretty sure it was on Max, which I don't know
if you heard is going back to HBO Max.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I did hear that?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I just do that finally started saying the right thing yesterday.
So this fun anyway, Sorry, tangent. I watched Brett Goldstein's
special Second Best Night of Your Life?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
You did? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
It was apparently his first stand up special that he's
ever recorded.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, I would assume I didn't know he was a
stand up. I believe he's done stand up for a
few years, but it was unclear to me. It was
really fun.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I think he's just a really enjoyable guy. He's very charismatic,
but also like super chill. I don't know, he just
seems like a very nice man. Yeah, and he had
some some pretty good stand up, especially for his first
you know, full you know session that he recorded. I
thought it was really good. He had me giggling along
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and I had a great time.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I really like him fun.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, it's definitely worth checking.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Out for sure.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
That guy's killing it man, and nothing like it's not
like clean or anything, but it's also nothing. There's not
really like anythin.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
In it or fi you know.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah, it's just like kind of regular stuff, you know,
like just being a nice guy. So I don't know,
it was really fun.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I liked it cool. Check it out. Check it out.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Uh, you already did yours, So now we're doing plugs.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
That is what we are doing. Nice.
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Another perk that we like to give our patroons is
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More often than not, we'll do a top five draft
that pertains to the movie we're talking about, and for
this one we decided to go. But I was shocked
that we hadn't done this surprising, surprising top five movies
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based on a historical figure, so surprising. Maybe we happen.
We just don't know, but maybe it just wasn't worded
that way or something. But that's what we're doing.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
It doesn't matter. We're gonna do it. There's a lot
of them. It turns out there's a lot of them,
so certainly I forgot some, so that'll be fun. Yeah,
look forward to that, Greg coming attractions. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Life is pleased.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Don't when you open yourself up to the universe.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Just don't worry.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
And also sometimes I forget, uh so check that out.
We're here today, though, to talk about a great film,
celebrating it's thirtieth anniversary. This is a little film called
Brave Heart. Yes, man, it is gonna be something else,
and we had to find the bravest heart we could
ever find.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
He's been Rob's pal.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
You guys probably watched the double VHS together a number
of times.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
You know, I don't know if we've watched it together,
now that you say that, I know we both have
seen it a lot, but of course it definitely comes up.
My brain is mushy, though we probably have seen it
together a bunch. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
It's fine. I didn't need to put you in that spot.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It's okay.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
But this is our old pal. He's here to talk
with us. Let's give it up for Benny.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
What's up, Bennie? What's up?
Speaker 5 (15:46):
My brother?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Baby? How are you you? Guys? It's just been so long.
I feel like he's been a minute. Now. Where have
you been? What's the last WHOA would probably tremor is? Yeah,
and that was I think that might have been the
first episode of the year. It's it's it's may you
got to start strong episode. Yeah we did start strong.
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Yeah we did a movie. But yeah, I knew I
wanted you on for this movie.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Oh yeah, my god.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
And so I'm glad. I'm glad we were able to
make this work. I know you are. You're not at
your place.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Yes, I apologies to your your audience. I'm on the
road traveling to Dallas. I've been driving from New York
and uh, and I forgot the cord to my microphone,
so I'm just recording on on my Mac MacBook microphone built.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
It sounds good on the zoom. Man sounding good?
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Well, sure, sure sounds good on the zoom. Everyone not
maybe what you're listening to. But I just I just
feel bad because I know that generally when I'm on
the program, viewership probably.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Jump sikes, big dozens of people. I get it. I
get it.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
That's like fourteen extra moms tune in the dude from
n c I s California. Oh my god, Blue Plots
only shows that women of a certain age.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Yeah, you two really have that that market corner from
both sides, don't sure?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
That's sure?
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Network Network.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Silly cop shows and Acapella Acapella acapella woo.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I used to say that on the cruise ship all
the time. I'd be like, your grandma loves us. I
promise it, she's into it. Oh it's fun. Man, So
you're going down to Dallas? What else is new?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I mean usually you're booking something when you.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Know you have my good luck charms technically, I guess
you are.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
This time, I'm doing U I did it years for years,
but they're trying again to do a Bull Durham the musical.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Oh yeah, I remember you did that.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Yeah, so I'm I'm scheduled to do that in the
fall at paper Mill Playhouse in in New Jersey.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Cool kids.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
So I don't really do a lot in the show,
to be honest.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
But I kind of that's all right, one fun little scene.
But you know, it's a pretty good show.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I will say school.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
There has been a talk of a New York trip
in the fall, so we might have to get those
dates from you.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And then and then have you guys ever done Bull
Durham on this?
Speaker 4 (18:46):
We never have, No, I haven't that field of dreams.
You might have to come and we'll see the show
and then we'll do the Bull Durham pod.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
That'd be super fun, man, would be super fun. I
feel like you have the musical in a minute, huh
since for a while.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Yeah, it's been a hot minute. Maybe we'll get there.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
We'll get We'll get Ron Shelton to come on. That
would be cool, the writer director of Bullet Movie.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah, but he did.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
He wrote the script for the I was just hanging
out with him the other night because we did a
little They did like a reading.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Of it, so I popped in to do that. But yeah,
he's just that guy's a legend.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, that's really cool.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
So I guess technically that. Otherwise, still working on a
video game that can't be named, but I love it.
Other than that, just been auditioning a lot, a lot
of a lot of hard maybees.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah, I love that, you know, career in my dating life,
my friends love that.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Rock hard maybe.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Oh boy, we are.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
We are well. I feel like we might said earlier,
we might go for a while.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
And this one.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Plane is literally to make this longer than the run
time of the film. So, oh God, for all the tangents.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I'm gonna get bathroom breaks.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Well, we're here to talk about the thirtieth anniversary of
Brave Heart and Rob You gotta started with just a
rough sun ups.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
William Wallace is the medieval Scottish patriot who is spurred
into revolt against the English when the love of his
life is slaughtered, leading his army into battles that become
a war. His advance into England threatens King Edward the
first throne, before he is captured and executed, but not
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before becoming a symbol for a free Scotland.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Oh nice, nice, great read read, good read read. Let's
go to rotten to models near what they have to say?
Critics have this coming in a pretty surprising seventy six percent.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
That was that was really surprising. Did they get bombed
later maybe or something? That's got to be a manly way. Yeah,
it's just like I thought I was. I just assumed
it was revered. I don't know it was. It was
up for ten Academy Awards, now Branton Amelia Perez was
up for eleven. And it wasn't fair. It wasn't great,
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that's a fair point. But this was definitely higher, you know,
twenty years ago for sure.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
I just want to say, I just remember to shut
off the air conditioner in my room here in my
hotel room, so hopefully that horrible hum went away.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I was just like I thought, we were, just you know,
passing gas for quite some time, just a real steady
stream steady. But you're right.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I mean the Academy Awards, you know, are an off
and on good or bad judge of what's good.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
So yeah, yeah, that's fair, that's fair Amelia Perez.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, well, it's just you know, why was it a musical?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
It was a crazy story.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
In fact, it would have been probably a really great
movie if it wasn't a musical.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
That's exactly really interesting and well done, I thought, But
then all the singing happened.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
And that was not as good.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
And you know when a bunch of dumb dumbs who
do musicals and sing are like, why it's just a musical?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, you got a problem? Yeah, what did we say?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I've probably said it a dozen times on here, but
I just keep coming back to why would you do
musical if you didn't have good songs nor people who
could sing them?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Well, just that's a real interesting swing. It's really no,
it's really the only requirement. I mean, nobody made you
make it a musical.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Very confusing, very brave heart not a musical, thankfully, although
maybe compelling, I don't know. But audience members had it
up at eighty five percent, so that's honestly closer to
what I thought it would be.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
For sure, for sure this would be more like a
higher critic than and maybe a lower audience.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
But I thought they'd both be at least like a
ninety same.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, it's pretty interesting, pretty interesting. Well, let's go in
and find out what we think.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
It's time for our take.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Oh that's a hot take. That's a hot take.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I see, there's probably fire.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
There's a fire, very very I'll go first.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I loved this movie back in the day, A big
fan of it. I already mentioned once, but the double
VHS was really a move back in.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
The day that could have been one of the last ones, right, yeah, probably.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I can so vividly remember we rented it and I
was like, there's two this is insane.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
We're gonna be here forever. Really fun movie.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Giant set pieces, obviously, with the battles and everything. I
have long loved the Scottish accent. So times.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Loved the Scottish. This is probably where it stemmed from.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Probably fat Bastard for sure, And that was a real
one two punch.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I went hard on the Scottish accent in high school
because of this. Oh yeah, and Treck, you're right, yeah, So.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
I married an axe murderer Robbie. In fact, I always
did the Scottish accent. And at one point in where
Robbie and I went to high school, in our cafeteria,
it was lined with all the flags of the whole world.
And after a marching band event in the summer one time,
Jason Koteki and some dudes jumped up and stole the
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Scottish flag and gave it to me as a gift.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
And that's where it was our freshman year, in our
our in our apartment.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Yeah, the one with the unicorn on it, brecked yep,
the unicorn.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
The Scottish flag. The Scottish animal is a unicorn.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
The flags just blue with like a white the cross
nicorn though, that's the tangent number one.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
But please keep going. Yes, So I really love this movie,
I will say years later the actions of mel Gibson
made this a little harder to watch.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
It feels a little more self indulgent.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
I mean, we just I mean, I'm yeah, we can.
This is kind of part of my hot take. Also,
so oh nice, I look forward. Yeah, you can jump
in now if you want.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I like, it's pretty clear he doesn't love gay people.
Because the Prince was much meaner than I remembered, And
not that that couldn't have existed, but like they just
made it totally incompetent, with just zero percent of anything
to offer.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
We'll just say, I guess, I guess we should just
talk about it now so we don't have to talk
about anymore. Like, Yeah, it makes me upset because I'm
just like Mel Gibson, What the F?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Why in the world? What the F?
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Because when I think of mel Gibson, Yo, when you
think of all the great actors of the ages and ninties,
our top actors, Yeah, for sure, Denzel's and our Tom
Hanks's and our Tom Cruise's. Mel Gibson, I mean when
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I think from Lethal Weapon all the way through the nineties.
He could do drama, he could do comedy, he could
do action, he could do dialects, he could do Shakespeare.
He was the most charming, charismatic dude on screen every
single movie of his. I just was absolutely in love with,
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Like he's the only one out of Like when I
think of Denzel, it's like Denzel does Denzel movies, and
that's cool. Tom Cruise does Tom Cruise movies. Tom Hanks
obviously one of our best, but all of them, I
don't think you could interchange them in their movies. Mel Gibson,
I swear to God, could probably play every role that
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those guys played as well as they did. I mean,
he he was as good as it gets at everything,
and it makes me so upset that he just turned
out to be such. Look, I know he had a
lot of substance abuse problems, and I've tried it, like
I'm I try to give him a little grace. I'm
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glad he's like, excuse me, like made a little comeback
or whatever. But I'm just like he was as good
as an actor could be, as good of a movie
star could be.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Like he was a movie star.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
And then he's directing like years before Affleck and anyone
was doing this, Like I guess Costner had done it. Yeah,
but I mean he comes in and gives us this
and even Apocalypto. I mean like, I'm just like, he
is the most talented dude I've.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Ever seen, and he just ruined it. And I love
his movies so much. I love Lethal Weapons so much,
and I can still watch him and I enjoy it.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Oh, you know, it's just so sad.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
It makes me so sad because I cannot believe how
talented he was, just good at everything.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
And also like those blue eyes man's I.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Mean yes, also just incredibly good looking. Yeah, super good looking.
Those eyes were just like piercing, they.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Really were in this movie. It was pretty well. They
definitely pumped up that color crush saturation.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Yeah yeah, but yeah, I honestly the movie is s
dope quite good. It does feel a little more self
indulgent having watched it now.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
But but you know, so good in it.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
It just seems that he's such a dick.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
More than anything like Costner does you know. I mean
this is after after Dances with Wolves, and I'm sure
he watched Dances with Wolves and was like I can
do that and he did. Yeah, you know for sure
Costner is still doing it. I mean I wouldn't say,
I guess my other hot take.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
We're just gonna leave.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Mel aside, which I just want to get it out
of the way because obviously we have to address it.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
But this kind of gave us the contemporary like war epic.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
And I mean like as far as far as like
thousands of extras like crazy because I'm big budget.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, like before they did it to c cgi and stuff. Well,
exactly right.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
And I think like back in the day then the
Golden eight, you know, we had like our ben Hers
and our Lawrence of Arabians. But when you think of
like the seventies and eighties leading into the nineties, like
there were nothing really like this was there. I mean,
Dances with Wolves was a big was a big thing.
Stielberg had a lot of like crazy set pieces, but
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it was never like we have three thousand people out
here and we're gonna run at each other and do
these scenes, which after this, I.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Feel like became a little more of a thing. Yeah. Yeah,
I feel like before this, maybe like Glory Glory, there
was a few things.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
There was a few, but even in those I don't
remember like crazy wide shots where you were like, that's
two thousand dudes, right, But I know they did battle scenes,
but yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Like the two sides facing off really like this movie
really totally. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I will say the one downside to having those giant
battles with real people if you look in the background
of a couple of these scenes. I saw one for
sure where they are fighting tooth and nail and in
the way background I should have clipped it or something.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
But there's a guy going like this to another guy.
He's literally going like yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely saw
that one, just like but hey, it's at the end
of the battle. They're probably weird. Meanwhile, like for six
weeks on your fifteenth.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Watch, I'm just looking in the background finding the people.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
It is true.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
But the like, the cinematics of this movie are wonderful,
really really good. The acting is great, and I love
the I'm always a sucker for like kind of that
warrior poet, you know, kind of like sort of reluctant
hero as well, right that just gets kind of like
cast into this spot. And yeah, his brain as well
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as his brawn and you know all these things, right,
Like those tropes work remarkably well and they're super well
done in this movie. It gives us a ton of
like iconic stuff like the blue face paint and you
know that is.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Still like ubiquitous today, which is so fun.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
I just love all that.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Yeah, I just really love it.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
And I think, honestly my favorite parts of this movie
are the scenery and the music because the score is incredible.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
So good, dude, James Horner. Perfect, It's so good.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Perfect, But yeah, I still really enjoyed it. I was like, oh,
what a bummer, and so many good performances in this
because the people like the King, I hate that guy.
You know, so many people you suck, which means they're
doing a good job. But I think I think my
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hottest take other than the Prince just being totally useless,
is I've just never understood whether you're in battle, you're
lined up?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Why are we running into battle? Can't we just walk there?
You know? That's my hottest take.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Let's just walk that.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yep, that's an avid endorsman take. Right there is right there? Warrior? No, no,
not really, but definitely not a warrior. Yeah no, no no,
I'd be the guy cooking the meal back at the camp.
I'm not running into anything, let alone battle. That's my hot,
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hot take, buddy, very hot take I have for pretty
much the exact same take as yours. I've seen it
so many times. Though it's currently ranked eightieth on the
IMDb Top two fifty. That's good. That's good. Like I said,
it's nominated for ten Academy Awards. It won five of
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them for Makeup, Effects, Cinematography, Best Director, and Best Picture.
Yeah yep, mel Gibson directed it. It was his second
film after The Man Without a Face.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
For acting.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I can look it up. I was just navigating there
because I was just curious. I'll tell you in a second.
I saw that he he just directed that Flight Risk
movie that Wahlberg did. It didn't did yeah, oh funny.
So it didn't look great at all. Didn't look good. No,
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but we'll see. Written by Randall Wallace. He went on
to write and direct The Man in the Iron Mask,
Secretariat and We Were Soldiers, which starred Mel Gibb. It's
it's one of those movies where if on TV, what's up?
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Who directed Man.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
In the Air un Risk? Randa Wallace who wrote this movie?
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Oh okay, sorry, gotcha?
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He went on to like become a
writer director. He was doing both. But yeah, it's one
of those movies where if it's on TV, I end
up watching the whole thing. It happened on the tour
bus in the last year or two where it was
on after I got done with the show, and then
I stayed up until three in the morning watching it.
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But yeah, story is amazing. It sounds like the writer
came up with a lot of the plot points to
make it more romantic slash dramatic, not the truth, probably
very fictionalized, which you know, it's happened a super long
time ago, and it's I'm not mad at it. You
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had of the cinematography that was amazing, especially during all
the battle scenes. Again, James Horner was so good. Loved
the cast. It started my appreciation for Brendan Gleeson, who
I adore. Also is barely recognizable for some reason to me,
I know, just that big old beard on his face. Yes,
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grows a good beard. That's a very fine beard. Depressed
he hasn't done it more often, honestly, Yeah, seriously, But
it's the funny thing. The funniest thing about him to
me is what's that is that he always reminded me
of your dad. Yeah, I remember you said that. It
is funny. I do love that and I can totally
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see it. Absolutely. Yeah, that's funny. Looks like he's a
tallman as well. Yeah, I would assume the big guy.
Those Gleasons, I think they're taller. But yeah, it's just
been one of my favorite movies for the last thirty years.
So hot take. I was shocked at how long it
took for the scene where they kill William Wallace's wife.
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It was it was over a half hour into the film,
and I just did not remember it moving like that
slowly to start. I feel like they could have shaved
some of that off some you know, it was good
world building, sure, but it just it lasted way longer
than I had remembered.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
It's fun because I would like to jump on and
piggyback on that because I agree, But I I don't
know if I really have a hot take already said.
I feel like it sort of started the modern way we.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Do war movies, certainly like in the Marvel world and.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Stuff like running at each other and doing things.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
But I actually I rewatched it last night and I
was tired, and I was like, I don't know if
I can do this whole three hours. But when I
think of it, it's it's like two hours and fifty
seven minutes. It's a three hour movie. Yeah, But when
I think of things like and look, I love Scorsese,
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and I love a lot of people like Killers of
the Flower Moon or The Irishman or This Last Year,
like the Brutalist, Like I can I could cut out
forty minutes like that, Like no problem. And I will
say this movie for being three hours, I feel like
there are very few places where I think there's downtime.
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I agree that if it probably is in that first
half hour, especially with her, but I also think that
she gets killed so fast. You need to we need
to see this love affair blossom otherwise, like we need
to buy that he's going to go on this rage spree,
you know, like yeah, I mean, that's kind of one
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of the only places where I'm like, I guess you
could shave this love love time down a little bit.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
But also I'm like kind of like, we need that.
But after once she dies, they're real. It really just
cooks of the movie. I just couldn't believe how long
it took to get to that, especially when he's a kid.
It was way more kid time it is than I remembered.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
But what's funny is it's still probably only like fifteen minutes,
and if it was Scorsesey, that would be forty minutes, right, Yeah,
And he really just wants you to see what long
Shanks is capable of, so.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
You know it later. But I'm with you, but I
it was more just surprising. I think that you need
that and like, there's so many parts of that that
I love, like when she gives him the flower and
then years later he gives it back to her, just like,
oh that was wonderful. Yeah. I don't think there's any
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wasted time really for the most part. Yeah, for how
long it is? Right right? Right? Because again, like when
I watched Killers of the Flower Moon, I was like, bro,
let's keep it moving.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Yeah, I could have cut twenty minutes out of that
in the first hour, I think. I was like, yeah, yeah,
I do think Gibson was good at directing for sure.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Also, sorry Tangent. Nicholas Cage won
Best Actor that year. That is that is fair. That's fair, And.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Gibson wasn't even he wasn't even nominated, which I think
is interesting.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
He wasn't.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
No, it was Richard Dreyfus for Hollins Opus, Anthony Hopkins Nixon,
Sean Penn Dead Man Walking, and then Massimo Tracy for
The Postman and that was up that posthumous.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Uh that was right? Did the Postman? I think? So? Yeah?
I never actually saw that one. So it's not Postman,
is it.
Speaker 5 (40:53):
It couldn't couldn't have been. Are you saying I ill
Postino or something.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Oh, yes, listed as the Postman original title. Yeah, you
know that makes more sense. Yeah, the Mostman though, right.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yes he did, Yeah, which I like more than we do.
But yeah, I don't think I saw it. It's actually
my only other hot take is that one part that
always took me out of the movie was when he
jumps the horse into the water and that fake ass
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horse is falling. But also it's just so clearly a
stunt double in the first shot. Yeah, it just always
took me out. They did that a lot back then.
It was such an eighties and earlier. Yeah, that's so
funny because then what I thought of when Benny said
nothing could be cut, I was like, we could have
just killed the guy and then done the horse, done
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the horse thing.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
Yeah, for sure, twenty seconds, but that was an unnecessary,
like some weird that's true.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Yeah, Yeah, that's the only part that really took takes
me up. That's all I got, Benny, What you got, buddy,
I mean, you know, I already kind of said it.
Speaker 5 (42:06):
I think this really, I think this really.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
Went next level, took us to the next level with
the war sort of epic war things, even though obviously
it had been done.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
I just think this was a kind of a next
level of.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
Close quarters combat and like seeing huge groups go up
against each other. And yeah, I this movie blew my mind. Yeah,
I saw this in the theater. I don't, I Robbie.
For some reason, I thought I saw it with you,
but I don't think I did now. I can't remember
who I saw it was. I don't think so, but
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I remember like in the like closing scene, the execution scene,
having an audible.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Right.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
It just it just absolutely blew me away. It was
kind of like watching it was kind of like watching
pulp fiction or something like. It changed the way I
thought about movies a little bit totally. Yeah, you know,
and I remember being like Mel Gibson's directing it.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
That's weird.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
That's weird, even though I love Dancing with the Wolves also.
So it just really blew my mind. And I don't
really have a hot take, to be honest. I mean,
I just loved it so much. I watched it so much.
It's a weird thing to watch a lot, but I did.
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And I feel like, I feel like, what's funny is
I feel like like eight years ago, roughly I watched
it because I think I showed Stephanie or seven or
six years ago. I showed it to Stephanie because she
had never seen it, and I was like, this, see,
isn't quite as good as I remember it. But then
last night I watched it again and I was like,
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this is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
I still like it.
Speaker 5 (44:01):
I don't know, I just think I just think it's.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
It's one of those like it's like so many music
musicians and songs like you. If you dropped this movie
today exactly how it is, I feel like I wouldn't
bad and I'd be like, this is a great movie. Yeah,
it feels pretty timeless. I mean there's not much you know, again,
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maybe some background actors c G. I it might look
worse today, honestly, Yeah, you know, I just think it
was such a one of one at the time, even
after Dancing with the Wolves, which was such a such
an accomplishment also, but this was just like another step
the despite the apparently insane historical inaccuracies, yes, yeah, which
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which we definitely didn't know about it and we can
talk about when we get to the trivia. I've actually
known about that for quite a while. But yeah, apparently
extremely inaccurate. Yeah, but this is Benny Ilach saying, I
don't give an f Yeah, given don't.
Speaker 5 (45:11):
Care about It's also it's.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Also one of the movie things where it's not even
like it starts with.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
Based on true it doesn't say anything, which which so
many movies are based on true stories, and they take liberties,
which I'm always like, I'm fine with, Like it's a movie,
you should always assume they're like, there's a pretty good
dollop of lies.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
And of course it's more if you're trying to do
that with something that is recent, yes, hundred hundreds of
years ago, of course, you know.
Speaker 4 (45:43):
But so I don't really have a great hot take
other than just mel Gibson making me upset because I
just I'm just was just the biggest fan of all.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
I'm still a fan of watching his work. You know.
It's like going going back and watching Kevin Spacey's stuff.
Spacey is tough, you know, It's it sucks because because
he is amazing hot takes, but yeah, so hot, unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (46:07):
This moviel my.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Mind blew my mind. Yeah for real, I agree, real, Well, yeah,
let's let's let's do our favorite acting performance let's choose
the dude, the dude.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
I'm the dude, so that's what you call me, you
know that, or his dude or duder or you know,
eldudo reno.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
If you're not into the whole brevity thing. Should be
pretty easy. Probably the dude. I mean, obviously it's mel
every scene, damn near.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
I mean, he literally is in every scene. He's so
such a good actor. He's you know, I've heard people
bitch about the dialect, but you know, as an actor,
I'm very I think if you're consistent with it the
whole time, yeah, way more important than and then being
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fully accurate. Yes, And I think he's fine at it.
I don't think he seems out of place with anyone
else that's in the movie.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Right.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
Well, it's not like over the top either, which helps,
you know, I mean, and look like he could have
gone over the top because I've heard Schotlish people from
the Highlands who you're like, are you You're I know
you're speaking English technically, but I can't even understand. Also,
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he has such a good sense of comedy and when
to keep it light. Yes, he would be so easy
for this to be so heavy all the way through
and there's so much just light moments anytime they have.
You know, as an actor, I always tell people, you
know that I get asked, what's if comedy or drama
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is harder or whatever, and I'm like, there literally is
no difference. Just the writing is how I feel like
you should approach it. And in fact, I always say,
when something's really serious, you should try and find the levity,
and when something's funny, you should try to find the
grounded serious moments.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
Which always makes me think of Leslie Nielsen and Naked
Gun because it so serious, you.
Speaker 4 (48:23):
Know, exactly right, And I think Mel in this movie
just really every chance they get to lighten it up,
they do it. And he's just so Also, like who
emotes better on screen than Mel Gibson, I mean really good.
He's just so he's just so intense. I don't know,
he's just unreal. Again, going back to my anger about him.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
There is one scene that always just destroys me. And
it's just he's not saying anything. It's just when he
sees Robert the Bruce is the one that jos did off.
You just see the expression on his face, doesn't say
a thing. You're just like, I know, exactly what you're thinking.
And I saw some of the breaks in the battlefield
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and it's terribly about ye. Yes, yes, that was his
reaction to Mel's faith in that scene. Yeah, it was
so good. And then he's he's just like he just
lays down, like, Okay.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
He acted better later because of Mel's face and that
one freaking scene.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
I mean he has so many he has so many
things that he doesn't is just outstanding. He's outstanding.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah, agreed, And yeah, I was going to say that
bit about that scene that just always just blew me
away that he didn't say a word and I just
know exactly what he's thinking. So so good. Yeah, I
love it, clean sweep.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
I love his acting in this almost as much as
I love the people of Jewish faith, almost as much
as I love l g B t Q people, almost
as much as I love not hitting partners.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
So you know, I love it. I think it's great
and good for him.
Speaker 4 (50:09):
He really hit the tray effected with being a piece
he said, and we're not gonna say it on this podcast,
but if you really go back and look at some
of the things that.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Came out of his mouth, damn, horrible, horrible, horrible.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
He's not great, bro, my god, but he's really a
great actor.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
You know, I don't know how to mel Gibson. We
have to separate him, I guess I don't know.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
But also so yeah, uh that's what I got. But
he is wonderful in this movie for sure. Yea, And
I love a ton of the movies he's directed to, like,
Ridge is good, It's good.
Speaker 6 (50:55):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (50:56):
I didn't see hacksty Ridge till like after the Oscars
that year, because I was like, is this movie right?
I don't even hear anything about this, And I was
just like, this is unbelievable, this is wonderful. It was Apocalypto,
I mean Apocalypto.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
I never saw it was great. I should watch that. Yeah,
fun movie. He's crazy talented, it's stupid.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
Yeah, this cast is giant, though. So let's go in
and talk to his other folks.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Let's name we got for this one, bud it good luck.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
A lot of people to pick from.
Speaker 4 (51:36):
Me.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
Yeah, you sorry? You want me to go first?
Speaker 4 (51:39):
Yes, I'm gonna. I'm gonna zag a bit here. Well,
I'm not gonna sag. I'm just I want to have
the Brandon Gleeson conversation because I'm just I'm so glad
this movie gave us Brandon Gleeson, yes, because it's been
now thirty years of just he's the best. But I'm
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actually gonna I want to go with uh, sorry, what's
his name? At Patrick McGowin, Oh. I think is low
key one of the best movie villains we've ever had.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
I hate him.
Speaker 4 (52:22):
I mean he's horrible, he's great, but like, as an
acting performance, he is so unbelievably good. He never he
never does anything crazy, he never, he's super low key
the whole movie. Yes, but he's just like in charge
of every room. He's in every moment he's ever in
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until his final moment, basically, which makes it all the
more satisfying to.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Watch him die.
Speaker 4 (52:50):
He's he's such an insanely horrible villain, but he's such
a good actor. He's so good at it, and he
could have been so over the top and he didn't.
And you know, a couple of years later, he's the
judge in A Time to Kill, A Time to Kill
I said that, and he's like a southern you know judge,
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and he's kind of a bad guy in that. But
you're you're so ready for him to be as evil
as Longshanks that in that movie he ends up kind
of being like a fair normal judge, but you're just
like scared of him. I'm just like, it's like, what's
his name? As the Warden in Shashank, He's just so
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he's so awful that I'm just I just honestly, I
would possibly put him in my top five villains of
all time with Vader and Joker and maybe maybe Shashank. Honestly, yeah, yeah,
I think it would be Vader and Joker and Shashank
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Warden and Yep and s Long Shanks and God, I'd
have to think of the next one, but I think
he's up there. It's one of my favorite villain performances
of all time, and he's again he's also kind of
funny too when he does the.
Speaker 5 (54:16):
End, sir, when we hit, when we hit our own troops,
yes as.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
Well, we have we have reserves. Also, when he's like, oh,
tell me about your your war strategies. That sounds great,
heats that dude out the window.
Speaker 4 (54:35):
Oh dude, And then he's like, well, but couldn't we
couldn't the princess be in danger?
Speaker 5 (54:41):
Yes, I'm sure that would upset my son.
Speaker 2 (54:47):
Can I say that's the one rewrite I would do
to this movie.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
I would just have the son offer up his lady
and be like, because that could have shown that he
had something to offer as the prince.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
To be like, yeah, dad, what do I care? If
if she dies?
Speaker 3 (55:04):
The King of France is going to be pissed.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
I don't want to have sex with her anyway. You
know that would have been so easy.
Speaker 5 (55:11):
I do you think they could have done something else
with him?
Speaker 3 (55:14):
Like if it's not if it's not factually accurate, then what.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (55:23):
So yeah, I'm going with I'm going with long Shaks.
I just think he's truly truly top five villain maybe
of all time.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
He's up there. Yeah, man, that's that's great. I would
maybe cheat and give it to both Brendan Gleason and
James Cosmo because I love.
Speaker 3 (55:41):
That father relationship is the best, also wonderful. His dad
is a terrible warrior. He gets hurt in every single battle.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
I just written down. He rough end of the stick
for him. I mean, a badass for sure, but also
totally he takes an arrow.
Speaker 4 (56:03):
He takes an arrow to the chest in their first
thing ever, then in their first MG battle, he takes
he gets his hand chopped on basically yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
And then in their next MG battle, he just takes
an ACT to the stomach. Yeah, which eventually just leads
to his death.
Speaker 5 (56:19):
But my guy.
Speaker 4 (56:21):
Also while they cauterize his wound. Yes, he's just Also
he's just Scottish Robert Duvall.
Speaker 5 (56:30):
Which I've always loved like that.
Speaker 2 (56:33):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (56:34):
Yeah, Yeah, those two are so good though.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
Two, They're so fun. I love them so much. Yeah,
it broke my heart love that. What do you have you?
Speaker 3 (56:47):
I love David O'Hara, he'd be right there, Irish dude.
He's my favorite Steve.
Speaker 4 (56:54):
I think he's so good in this and he's just
like again that little bit of comedy that we need
various points.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
He's just a really cool he's the funniest part. By absolutely,
it's a better character intro than him. I do so good.
It's so good. That would have been a good top
five best character intro. Really good. That would have been
fun because yeah, his is perfect. Man.
Speaker 4 (57:25):
Really quickly they get to they give you the fake
out where yes, it looks like he's gonna try and
kill Wallace. It's the opposite and that all happens in
like five minutes. Yeah, did that guy do anything else?
Speaker 2 (57:43):
Why? Dude, I was just going to say, I'm usually
pretty good with faces. He is in the Departed, and
the dude that is him, Well he's he does the
Citizens Bank thing. He's part of that whole du you
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just my brain. I know, obviously that's him. Now I'm like,
of course that's him. It's totally him.
Speaker 4 (58:16):
Wow, when you asked him how he could have known,
it was exactly crap. Of course that's him.
Speaker 2 (58:26):
I never put that together episode.
Speaker 5 (58:30):
Yeah, that is crazy as.
Speaker 2 (58:35):
He is an airy Potter and he's the Albert Runcorn. Uh,
he's one of the people they take over there. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, right,
you're right. Yeah, the black leather jacket, it's different. Oh
my gosh.
Speaker 4 (58:55):
And see what's funny is I just rewatched all of
Harry Potter with Stephanie because she wanted to. And when
I watched it, I was like, oh, that's the dude
from the Departed. That's great.
Speaker 2 (59:04):
Yeah, God, that Robbie. That's a great call.
Speaker 5 (59:09):
I didn't realize that that's I can't believe I.
Speaker 2 (59:12):
Never put that together. Yeah, I blew my mind. Love
that he was wonderful in this He's so good. He's
just great. Special shout out to Michael Byrne or Byron
who is the one who goes after Mel's wife or
his lady friends. Horrible and all I put was, I
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hate this dude, yes, but he's really good.
Speaker 3 (59:38):
And it's like two seconds, but it was so.
Speaker 2 (59:40):
Funny even on the rewatch. Just the first time I
saw his face as one of the guards, I was like, Yeah,
that guy, just like that guy.
Speaker 4 (59:50):
Can I just say I wanted to talk about this
quick because just because that her death is one of
the like the worst movie deaths ever for me. I
think it's strangely because they almost don't make that big
of a deal about it cinematically, Like there's no there's
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no big music build, there's no music at all. They
don't shocking, they don't show William Wallace like watching from
a distance and having a breakdown. They don't even show
her parents like freaking out or anything. Like, there's nothing.
It's so quick and cold and horrible, and it makes
it feel so.
Speaker 5 (01:00:33):
Much more real.
Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
The fact that it's just that's how quick it like
really was always so just disturbing to me. More than
a normal, like big cinematic death because and it's the
it's the the catalyst for the entire story. Yeah, but
the way he chose to shoot it and present it
is so skilling and real and it's like, yeah, it's terrible, it's.
Speaker 5 (01:01:00):
Terrible, agreed. I just wanted to.
Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Say it because I just it's always hitting, yeah, dude,
and makes it so much more shocking for sure.
Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Yeah, just to just to piggyback off what rob said
right away. Uh, I thought Young William was really good
and was in it for way longer than I remember.
But I thought that little kid actor James Robinson was
his name. He was really talented.
Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
I thought he It looks like he's still doing stuff too.
He's been working. Yeah, No, no, I don't, Leo. I
don't think he's done a lot of big stuff, and
I think it's mostly British TV. Yeah, still still doing it.
That's always for him though there's a million others, but
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that's all. Yeah. Angus mcfaden is Robert the Bruce. You
got to bring him up. I love how he acted.
I hated Robert the Bruce, pretty unlikable. Yeah, until he
finally man, Yeah, it took too long, Yeah, way too great. Great,
But we have to talk about Brendan Gleeson. Yeah, I
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mean well I said I I was pretty much gonna,
uh too tie it with yeah, yeah, with James Cosmo.
But yeah, so good.
Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
I mean, like, look what we got from Brendan Gleeson
for the next man. His son's awesome too.
Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
His son is so good, which we all know. That's
how you said. We know it's Donal, Yes that.
Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
I didn't know, but man, Brendan Gleeson what a also
just like it just kind of came out of nowhere too.
Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Udeah and one of the like you said, one of
the best careers, maybe of the last twenty years, easily thirty.
Speaker 5 (01:02:49):
I guess he's just so good.
Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
Every time he shows up, you're like, oh, yes, there standing, Yeah, yeah,
he is great, perfect.
Speaker 5 (01:03:00):
Yeah. He always reminded me of Robbie's dad always.
Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
I love that. Yeah, that's funny. There's like two women
in this movie, and one of them is Sophie Marcel.
Pretty great, wonderful, beautiful, very great. You know who also great?
What's his name with the scar on his face. He's
been a lot of fun. Tommy Flanagin, Chips, Red and
(01:03:23):
Sons of Anarchy, a bunch of blinder. He's Russell Crows
guy and Gladiator. Yep. He's had a nice little career too. Yeah,
them and Brian Cox pretty small roles.
Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
But you bring cocks.
Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
Boy because he he already was had his career going
at this point, but it was more like theater and
little movie things. But talk about coming in and crushing
it for two quicks. I mean literally everything, everything that
comes out of his mouth is unbelievably awesome.
Speaker 5 (01:03:58):
Perfect. Yes, here's like six lines.
Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
And they're all incredible. Yeah, I mean one was pretty
intense or you're just like, well, I bet you didn't
want your dad.
Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
You didn't want your father to die, but he did,
didn't he? But also like, first, learn to use this this,
I'll teach you how to use this, and he did.
Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
Them like they're whatever in their own way, playing out
log tunes on out loud pipes.
Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:04:30):
Yeah, he's unbelievable. Yea, he's unbelievable. Two seconds in a movie,
I'm just like this guy, this guy's gonna be someone.
Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
Yeah, why does he look exactly the same rightsome looking roy?
Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Mister Roy? Yeah? What's his first name? And that I
forget uh something?
Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
Yuh yeah what Logan Roy Logan Logan Roy.
Speaker 5 (01:04:59):
But yeah, man, I'm thank you for bringing that up.
I wanted to bring it. It's unbelievable, unseerious.
Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
People just coming in hot for five minutes and just
crushing and you just immediately like get where he learned
when when he says the you don't speak Latin, that's
something left to remedy, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Yeah, like you was like, oh man, so good this
this movie.
Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
This movie does a lot of cool stuff like that
where they don't like they do that. And then he
comes back and it's so easy for you to know, like,
oh he he went and learned from this dude. Like
everything he does you're not surprised by.
Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
They fill in the blanks without like explicitly telling you
right like they just yeah, it's very it's very well
again well directed.
Speaker 4 (01:05:50):
He's just really like, I don't because you know, if
it's score s easier someone it's like I.
Speaker 5 (01:05:55):
Need to show this.
Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
I need to show is growing up montage. You know
a lot of people would want to show that. Yeah,
and it's kind of awesome that it just doesn't happen.
Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
It's great. Yep, Uh. The only other person I wrote
down was the Royal magistrate who is like the executioner.
His name is David Gant. But I always thought I
was like, that guy has one of the best voices
that I've ever heard, and that he killed it like
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on the theater some theater shows, for sure. Yes, dude,
I always just thought he had a really cool speaking voice.
But yeah, that's about it. I think one of the guys, uh,
what's his name, one of the one of the other.
Speaker 5 (01:06:49):
Clan nobles.
Speaker 4 (01:06:50):
Yeah, it was like original Thenardier and Lames, rob and stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Oh really mm hmmm.
Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
I think the one he kills right before the he
jumps his horse into the water bugs. His favorite favorite
scene scene, What's So Dumb Likes was cool. It's just
always funny when they do these movies with all these
like British people and then they like have these little
small parts and then you look and they're like, oh,
they're just an incredible stage actor or something. They've only
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been doing them for sixty years or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Yeah, it's just amazing. Yeah, that's fun. Well, let's move
on to our favorite scenes. I feel like this is
going to take a minute, and let's choose the Dingus.
So think it's quite simple, really ingus, ingus. I could
talk about my dingus all night long.
Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
I'll go first just to piggyback off where what we
were just saying about, uh not explaining stuff. I mean
right after his wife gets killed and his initial rolling in, yeah,
and their first assault basically on them one, you're just
(01:08:09):
like ready, so ready to watch them get murdered. But
also again it seems like and again, tell me what
you think. It seems to me like that's like a
coordinated attack absolutely because William comes in and does its thing.
And I used to think though though other guys just
(01:08:29):
kind of jumped in, but now when I watch it,
I'm like, no, they they like talked.
Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
About this.
Speaker 5 (01:08:36):
Because they're all ready to go.
Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
They have a plan, they do their thing, and it's
which is amazing because it shows you how great they
all work together and what's about to happen coming up.
But I just I love again that they just do
it and they don't explain it, and you're just you're
so messed up from what what you just watched that
(01:08:59):
you're so ready for some revenge and it's just like
let's go, and it just sets off the whole thing,
and then he brings the dude out and slits his
throat on the Yeah, so I want to I just
wanted to mention that, but I would say my favorite
scene is probably the Sterling just battle. I feel like
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that just encompasses the whole movie from start to finish.
Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
It's like, that's what Braveheart is.
Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
If if you want to tell someone what Brave Heart is,
you would just say, we're gonna watch this fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
You get the speech, you get the you get the
whole the whole deal.
Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
You understand what's who they are compared to all the
other you understand what the rest of Scotland feels about this.
Everyone's very passive. We don't want to get involved. They
got those two guys. Speaking of that, one guy ended
up being in Westworld and in Ozark if you remember him,
he's like the older guy.
Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Oh, the.
Speaker 4 (01:10:05):
The guy who looks like strangely looks like Will Ferrell,
who's like, we're not dying for these Bostards.
Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Yeah, oh that guy.
Speaker 4 (01:10:12):
Yes, Peter Mulley, right, Yeah, in that sweet West World
episode where he's in the world, been in Ozark where
he's like, what's her name's husband, right, he's a great actor,
just playing a tiny little turn.
Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Yeah. So yeah, i'd probably say the sterling just sequences
my absolutely, dude. Yeah, that's that's for sure, I will say.
So that's the one where they also where they have
the big spears right and they're like, we're gonna make
them huge. Y.
Speaker 5 (01:10:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
I do feel like there's they've messed up in the
editing at one point in there where like they're they're
charging at them and it's like the hold and all that,
which I've said oh yeah, oh yeah a billion times,
but I feel like they they cut to the spears
(01:11:08):
too early, like they give you a flash of it
before they actually reveal it. And I didn't go back
and check, but I I felt like I saw it,
and I've always felt like, I think you're right because
it's like spears, no spears, spears and then it is.
Speaker 5 (01:11:27):
To be fair, there's a few of.
Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Those in this movie. There's a few continuity errors. Yeah,
Like there's one.
Speaker 4 (01:11:33):
In that where there's one where he got his sword
out and they're charging and then he cuts back and
he's got it in. And also there's a there's a
famous mess up where you can see a truck at
one point, really really yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
I didn't see that that that's really it's really quick,
but it's there. That's like the Starbucks and Game of Thrones, there's.
Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
A there's a there's a great gend off one where
he's wearing a wristwatch.
Speaker 5 (01:12:02):
Yes, fighting maze.
Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Yeah, but that's just a weird thing because that's just editing,
Like that's that's just they and it's only for like
a quick second that they go to it, and it's
like such a big reveal that I was always surprised
that that was lifted. But I do agree that's for
sure the number one. The second scene, the second scene
(01:12:27):
that I think of the most with this is just
that ending torture scene. It's uh, just nuts, him coming
in them throwing all the food at him, and just
how it goes from like yeah, so quiet and all
you can hear is just the the creaky wheels of
the thing that he's coming in on, and then a
(01:12:50):
dude spits and it's just like Mayhem from then on,
and uh.
Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
Yeah, it's just so by the end there on the side,
he's like Rocky for he's got the Russians. Even the
thing he does with the kid like looking at the kid.
Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Yeah, of such great man. I've never noticed that before.
Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
But that felt like that was uh, kind of the
same as him seeing the people in the beginning, right
when he's a kid and seeing how they you know,
like massacred all these folks when they were just supposed
to be having a reading. Because this time I was like, oh,
is that supposed to say, like this kid is now
going to be the future one who's fighting for you know,
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like freedom.
Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
That's that's what it was. But it felt like that
I'd never noticed that before.
Speaker 5 (01:13:42):
It makes a ton of sense if that's what it was. Yeah,
that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
That's a great scene though hard to watch, but a
great hard to watch.
Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
Having the like the little people act that out beforehand
makes it so they don't have to show.
Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
It, but we absolutely know what they're doing. Smart too,
like the disemboling exact exactly. Yeah, honestly, I mean we
wouldn't have been able to watch that. No, it's too much. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:14:13):
What's funny about that, though, is I'm on the brink
of tears that whole scene. And then what fine and
what always has and it still did last night, What
finally pushes me over the edges is Brendan Gleason going,
william just saying, just say it. From then to the credits,
(01:14:34):
I'm from yes, Yes, and David O'Hara just closes his
eyes like that.
Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
So good, unbelievable. Yeah, absolutely, it's just incredible. And the music,
the music in that So the score.
Speaker 5 (01:14:55):
Of this movie is Banda's good.
Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
It's so great.
Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
Yeah, like is as good as it gets outside of
the John Williams world.
Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
I mean yeah, yeah, you guys have said every scene
that I have, which is great. Oh god.
Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
The only one we haven't said is the well I
guess we talked talked about it earlier with David O'Hara,
the introduction of the irishman.
Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Ye come to that hunting scene, which is like kind
of the bait and switch. So good.
Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
It's so well done and really great and even you know,
like I always love a scene that even when you
know what's going to happen and you're rewatching it and
you're like, yeah, I can see why I thought that
was going to be that guy, Like they really they
really made us think that was what was happening.
Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
And it's just so good. And he's just such a kook.
Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
It's really fun. I love perfect scene so much.
Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
That was great, it's so so, so good. Yeah, I
had some more written down, but we've already talked about it.
Just Ralas avenching his wife's death in the very beginning. Yes, yes,
I mean I was.
Speaker 4 (01:16:04):
I was thinking about other revenge movies like you know,
Man on Fire and things like that. I'm just like, God,
has there been a more just like I'm so I'm
so behind you to just yeah, f up this whole
crew right now.
Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Let's go. When they killed John Wick's dog, yeah, yes,
I was ready for that, to kill every single one
of those people, every one of them. I had mentioned
it already, But when Wallace sees Robert the Bruce is
is completely betrayed. That scene is so nuts just for
the acting. Also loved before that when he's like, unite
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the Clantons, you know, like that speech, like you can
do it. Another scene that I've always loved is when
long Shanks he can't speak anymore. Oh yeah, Sas is
whispering into his ear just like it's so bad ass?
(01:17:07):
Is she insinuating that it's William Wallace's kid? Yes, okay,
so oh yeah, yeah for sure. And he can't talk
about it because he's can't speak anymore, and just starts
wheezing real hard.
Speaker 6 (01:17:22):
And I love this.
Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
He's telling him. I get that he gets disembowled, but
he gets to impregnant a lady and then go meet
his other lady on the other side.
Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
Not a terrible day for William other than the disemboweling,
not a great general torture, not a great A bad day.
Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
It's pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
Okay, it's a pretty bad It's it's a bad day.
The racking, racking. Well, you know this.
Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
I don't want to run into battle, let alone be tortured.
Speaker 5 (01:18:04):
No, he's right, that's dude.
Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
That emblem would have had so many kiss marks on
it from my lips. Why why were you wearing so
much lips your execution?
Speaker 5 (01:18:21):
It's yeah, look, because you wanted to look for best in.
Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
This guy's movie. I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 4 (01:18:30):
The funny thing is those like every like every scene
is so great, Like even the fact that they have
the scene where where he says the will make spears. Yeah, yeah,
so long you know he does. And that's kind of
a throwaway, a little moment, and you forget about it
by the time all of a sudden it happens, you know,
(01:18:51):
like ship, Oh yeah, they talked about this, yeah, I
mean yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
Can I say one more fun scene that I really like,
I forgot about when he comes back and Hamish is
like kind of like yeah yeah, like challenging his manhood
and he throws the rock and he's like, I should
remember the rock.
Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
He's like, yeah, you should. It's so good. It's really good.
Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
Also U seamous and his dad's death scene isak wonderful.
Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Jesus.
Speaker 5 (01:19:27):
Yeah that one yeah, big time boo hoos.
Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
Yeah, I mean they're all so good, Like, I mean,
they're so good. Every Long Shanks scene, yeah, he's great.
The one where he throws the guy out the window
is one of the amazing.
Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
Because you're also that's also one of those moments. He's
such a great villain. That's almost jokery.
Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
You're like.
Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
At the window yet like the you know what Long
Shanks he's got there annoying sucks like window.
Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
I am trained in the oppos of flaw Fader. He's like, oh,
are you cool? Cool here? How neat are your thoughts on?
Are you training? That would have been a good life trained?
And they're like whoa. But you know, I just again,
(01:20:24):
I always think it's a mark of a good villain
where I'm like, I love it, I love it everything.
Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
I kind of like it.
Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
Yeah, but I also just love watching you. You're so good.
Yeah yeah, I love that well, very good.
Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
I think we all agreed on that big battle scene.
Speaker 4 (01:20:42):
I just do things start to finish. It's like you
could you could tell someone what the whole movie is
about if you just showed them that like twenty minutes. Absolutely, yeah,
well it could be like a short film.
Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
Hell yeah, let's talk about some of our favorite quotes.
Let's time to show me the mony, Penny say some quotes.
Speaker 5 (01:21:10):
You should go first.
Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
I'm scared computer because the whole I mean so good.
I mean the the.
Speaker 4 (01:21:22):
Ultimate obviously every man dies and every man really lives.
That was that was the poster, the poster.
Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Love it.
Speaker 5 (01:21:31):
That's something with shoft remedy.
Speaker 4 (01:21:34):
Like there's the things that like I said, like I
say that still like in life sometimes like like it
didn't work.
Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Well, that's something left to remedy, isn't it. Totally? I
love that you guys, go ahead, so definitely taking the
love you always you know where they rock a good
one of that is in basketball.
Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
Yes, all right, it's so perfect.
Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
I love you, I always have, always half it's really good.
I'm gonna wait for Benny to do the Sterling speech.
Hell yeah, agreed, Oh bro, I won't. No, I think
you will. I want you to. You have bled with Wallace,
no bleed with me? Yeah, pretty great, pretty great. The
(01:22:35):
Almighty tells me you can get me out of this mess.
But he's pretty sure you're okay. So he's pretty sure.
Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
And then his laugh after that is so good when
he's just like, it's such a goofy laugh.
Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
It's also I loved his I'm a most wanted man
on my island you mean Ireland.
Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
Yeah, it's mine, it's and then they bring it back
when he said I can't worry about the Irish.
Speaker 5 (01:23:08):
It's like I said, it's my Ireland, Ireland.
Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
Yeah, oh that's great.
Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
I'm prettier than this man. Oh it's so good. Gott
Will Moss, I'm prettier than this man. Oh god, it's
so good. There's so many you can say, some bukes.
Speaker 5 (01:23:33):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
When he goes, uh, they to like take her for
the horse ride or whatever, and her pants are like
are you.
Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
Out to your mind? It's randomly they're.
Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
Like the weather stair was like, oh, it's good Scottish weather, madam.
The rain is falling straight down, oh slightly to the
sidelike when he says that, I just really loved that,
and she's.
Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
Like, it's fine, it's barely raindom. It's so great. She
takes after you. It takes after you. Let's see. Oh
I love Oh go ahead, go ahead, No, no, you
go ahead.
Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
I was just after he takes the arrow, the the
man who is the worst fighter in the whole army,
the dad. But come on, but he takes the arrow
and they're you know, they want to they want to
scour the wound or whatever. They're like, he just keeps people,
just keep handing it to the next person. They're like, here,
you can do it. I'll hold him down. And then
(01:24:33):
he's like, hands it to the you know, to chips,
and he's like, you do it. I'll hold him down,
and then he throws them.
Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
All off in like two seconds. It's great love. That
is William Wallace.
Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
Yes, I've heard he kills men by the hundreds. And
if you're here, consume the English with fireballs from his
eyes and bolts of lightning from his arse.
Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
It was like deadline.
Speaker 7 (01:24:58):
William Wallace, and I see a whole atomy of in
defiance of tyranny. It's them to fight as free men,
and free men you.
Speaker 5 (01:25:10):
Are with that freedom.
Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
What do you fight? I fight and you may die,
run and you'll live at least a while and doing
in your beds many years from now.
Speaker 8 (01:25:26):
Would you be willing to train all the days from
this day to that for one chance, just one chance,
come back and tell our enemies that they may take
our lives, but they'll never take.
Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Hell. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:25:44):
Yeah, it's the best ever. It's it's so it's like
the great I compare it. I'm like, I'm like, there's
like war speeches and sports speeches and movies.
Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
They're kind of the same thing. It's like, it's just
right up there with the you know, it's as good
as it gets, agreed. I think they said was in
the top one hundred. Ever, at least in some bowl
one hundred. It was in the top one hundred of
(01:26:18):
all of cinema. There's lots of good ones, some good ones,
good ones. I don't remember what it was on the list,
but I know it was in the top.
Speaker 4 (01:26:31):
I like, there's a difference between us. You think the
people of this country exist to provide you with position.
I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.
Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
I love that. You know, maybe maybe applies today to
certain countries. You know, maybe I don't know.
Speaker 5 (01:26:50):
Not a political podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
But I'm just saying, oh, no, we're hard right now.
Speaker 5 (01:26:54):
You didn't hear oh copy that?
Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
Well, then it does not apply hard right.
Speaker 4 (01:27:02):
I also loved when he is like, uh, what does
he say at the one point personal escort of the princess?
Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
I must have made an infection. I didn't think you
were in the tenth that long? Yeah, I love that.
That's pretty great Brandon, just being oh that came vain
the some men are longer than others. Your mother been
(01:27:31):
telling you stories about that is pretty great. That's pretty great.
Speaker 4 (01:27:38):
We should still say sometimes at work, will be like,
I have something with you, do something really well, We'll.
Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
Go send new to the victory.
Speaker 5 (01:27:46):
Shall we retire?
Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Yes? Yes, that's great.
Speaker 5 (01:27:50):
Shall we retire?
Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (01:27:55):
I was I loved the one where he was like
to find himself an equal and irishman must have forced
to talk with God.
Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
Yeah, I mean literally every single thing.
Speaker 5 (01:28:05):
He says, yeah in the in the movie, I also
do that. I still also do that.
Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
After after he goes and your father sees you too,
and he punches them. Yeah, and then that Steven just
goes to himself.
Speaker 4 (01:28:20):
He goes Jesus, Like Jesus, every single thing out of
his mouth is his gold.
Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
God, he's so good.
Speaker 4 (01:28:34):
He has like he has like a page of dialogue
in this movie, and he just absolutely crushes perfect.
Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
God, it's perfect. I can remember seeing this movie with
my dad and this was I guess I was young
enough that I didn't know what she was referencing. But
they're talking in French and she says englishmen don't know
what a tongue is for. And I remember my dad saying, oh,
she's not, And I was like, I don't know what
(01:29:05):
do you mean you mean, I don't follow. Oh that's it, Fred,
you beautiful son of a bitch. That's what I was
gonna say. That's it.
Speaker 4 (01:29:21):
That's a movie thing that I always loved when when
someone speaks another language and then our hero just knows
the language and knows what he said.
Speaker 5 (01:29:30):
So anytime, anytime that happens in the movie, I'm like, ah.
Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, our hero smart.
Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
Uh my last one that I wrote down, But I
just love it's way at the beginning the little kid
when he's like I can fight, and he's like, I know,
I know you can fight, but it's our wits that
make us men.
Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
And I love that line and we already we already
talked about it. But literally everything that Brian coxs pipes
that you said earlier is so good. I'm just trying. Yeah,
and I know you said it.
Speaker 5 (01:30:08):
But first learn to use this. Yeah, I'll teach how
to use this.
Speaker 4 (01:30:15):
God, it's like three lines and you're just and again,
we don't need any we don't need a growing up montage.
Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
We don't need anything ready, we need a montage. I
mean so many people would have done that, and I'm
just like, we need it. It's so good. We do
get some running through Scotland montages in this though, so
that's fun, really cool shots though. It's worth item so beautiful, man,
I mean, the.
Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
Sematography is outstanding. There are some crazy show you know.
The one, the one I think that's been copied to
is is when they're just getting going and then the
English guys are one of them gets hit on the
head with a rock and then there's that big ridge
come up over the line like that's been done now
(01:31:06):
since then and it.
Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
Looks so amazing to just appear on the up on
the ridge. Really fun.
Speaker 5 (01:31:15):
There's so many incredible shots.
Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
My god, the the hand, the hand dropping, the the
from from the cross. Yeah, that's such a that's such
an oscar shot. It really is beautiful.
Speaker 5 (01:31:37):
Grace is that they do. He jams the sword in
the ground after sterling, and.
Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
Then that ends up being the final the final shot.
Speaker 4 (01:31:48):
And throwing the sword at the end when I'm just
when I'm fully weeping, and then and then them slow.
Speaker 5 (01:31:59):
Towards the camera.
Speaker 4 (01:32:02):
They fought like warrior poets. They fought like Scotsman had
won their freedoms. I mean that warrior Poets is one
of the greatest lines that. Yeah, good god, crying.
Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
To the movie. Yeah, well, speaking of crying, is it
time to go into the Bieks' boo who moments? I think,
I think that's a good good job.
Speaker 5 (01:32:22):
We don't even have we don't even have times.
Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
I did I picked a Leavin Oh yeah, okay, okay,
healthy and a lot of them.
Speaker 5 (01:32:37):
It was going to be double digits.
Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
Yeah, a lot of them are really early, so I'm
not sure, so we'll double check here. When young William
Wallace sees all of those dudes hanged, yeah for sure. Yeah,
that was a lot, a lot. Then when his dad dies,
of course, uh, the little girl slash his future wife
(01:33:00):
giving him the flower at the funeral, beautiful love it.
When the bride of Tommy flan again goes with the
English guy on the night of their wedding. Yes, that
was intense. So that whole idea is terrible brutal. Yeah,
(01:33:24):
I love you always have. Yeah, I love you always have.
When he kisses his wife then before she's buried, so
I guess. Yeah, it was so shocking. If you actually
cried during the the death scene or not, that's funny.
(01:33:45):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (01:33:47):
It's too shocking.
Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:33:51):
Again, it's it's not because they don't make it cinematic.
Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
They make it so real.
Speaker 5 (01:33:56):
Yeah, but it's so shocking.
Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
Because it's not.
Speaker 3 (01:33:59):
It's like at that funeral where he kisses her and
then he like kneels before the parents and the dad
like wants to hit him, but he's just like, yeah,
you know, like all the things.
Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
That's so great. Then I think some movie it's a
long time until the next cry, which is when Wallace
sees that Robert the Bruce has betrayed him. Oh okay, yes,
that did get me. Yes, okay, I must have been
missed something. When Brendan Gleeson is with his dying dad
(01:34:32):
and says, you know, I'm a happy man. I'm proud
of the man you've become.
Speaker 6 (01:34:38):
Lord.
Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
Yes, when she when she tells him to take the
drink to dull his pain, and he explains, yeah, yeah,
he needs to keep his wits from there to the
rest of the film pretty much. So then I said
the execution and which we didn't even say.
Speaker 6 (01:35:02):
But we talk about you're right but yes, free and
then dumb it should be a little dumb, but it's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
It's not. It's just incredible. I do agree that the
like most heartbreaking moment of that is just say the word,
just say you know, just like uh yeah, I know
those because yeah, it was so much. But then the
last one is you bled with Wallace, now bleed with me?
(01:35:35):
Hell yeah, oh hell yeah. Until the credits, Yeah, until
there are two more that we didn't say two more more.
It's not the you have more two more? Yep. Wait,
so is it.
Speaker 4 (01:35:54):
Is it outlawed outlawed tunes without a loud pipes or
does that count as fathers?
Speaker 3 (01:35:59):
I kind of count of that with the brother and
dad part. I think because they're pretty they're pretty quick
in succession. Yeah, I will say, so you have to
One of them is hype tears for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
Oh so a battle, Oh I get that. I get that. Yeah,
Oh arguably maybe both are. It's gonna be the Sterling
battle then yeah, well wait wait is it the speech?
The Sterling speech? The speech they'll.
Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
Take our lives, but they'll never take our freedom.
Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
That's for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:36:36):
One more before that, and I think it's when they're
maybe parlaying before that, but when he goes back and
he's like, you go.
Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
Back and tell them blah blah blah, you tell them
Scotland is free. And he's just like, oh, you know,
like when first I think that's when she first he
was talking to it's that one and it's like, no,
you can go back and tell him this, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:37:00):
Because he's just so like fiery in that moment.
Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
I really liked that too.
Speaker 9 (01:37:05):
Yeah, he's like slaves are made like yes, yes, yeah,
yeah that scene. Yeah, so yeah, thirteen I think is
what we ended with thirteen thirteen thirteen. That's honestly the
most in a long time.
Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
That's fine, my my. I was thinking about it.
Speaker 4 (01:37:21):
I was like, my over under probably would have been
like ten. Oral up, yeah, it would have been my like, yeah,
thirteen seems reason under where.
Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
We at because it was like a three hour movie.
Speaker 5 (01:37:31):
I mean also, it's a three hour movie.
Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
So yeah, yeah, but uh, it's no Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 3 (01:37:38):
But what is truly?
Speaker 2 (01:37:39):
What is? What is? There's been another, not twenty more,
it's not. But but what's amazing is is that it
didn't require three movies. It yeah, it does.
Speaker 4 (01:37:49):
It does all this in one movie, which I'm with
you on Lord of the Rings, but you know, it's
it's amazing that they did this and in one.
Speaker 2 (01:37:59):
Yeah, pretty wild.
Speaker 4 (01:38:02):
Let's go do some movie Trurivia trivia, let's see. Mel
Gibson initially turned down the role of William Ross, feeling
that he was too old for the part. He was
thirty eight at the.
Speaker 3 (01:38:13):
Time, while the real William Walls died at thirty five,
but Paramount Pictures said they would only film finance the
film if he starred in it, so he finally agreed
that's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
Sorry, he was thirty eight, and he didn't want to
do it because the real William Walls just died at
thirty five.
Speaker 3 (01:38:32):
Well, he died at thirty five, which means he was like,
you know, fighting, probably a.
Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
Decade younger than thirty eight. We got like thirty year
olds playing high school kids. Ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (01:38:43):
Yeah, so I would assume everyone back then looked about
twenty years older than they actually were.
Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
Probably, yeah, probably, let's see. In a two thousand and
nine interview with The Daily Mail, Gibson admitted that the
film was heavily fictitious, but claimed that they had all
been The changes had been made for dramatic effect, and
again he said that he just felt like he was
a little bit too old to play him. But I
(01:39:13):
thought that was interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
I thought this was fun.
Speaker 3 (01:39:17):
On set, one of the film's weary extras reportedly mistook
one of Mel Gibson's own children on set for an
Errand boy and asked him to bring him a cup
of tea. And Gibson was within earshot, and he just
nodded and whispered to his son go get it for him.
So I thought that was kind of sweet.
Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
Errand boy, he thought he was like someone just run
around like a child laborer. Well it was Gibson's picture
you that that's true. I don't know. Everyone gets their
own Everyone gets their own child assistant.
Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
Don't worry, no worry, said young Charles out no worries,
uh Mel. Gibson later so many jokes that are inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (01:40:05):
Regarding this film.
Speaker 3 (01:40:07):
Gibson later said, some people said in the telling of
the story, we messed up history. But it doesn't bother
me because I'm giving you a cinematic experience. He thinks
that films are there first to entertain, then teach that inspire,
And I.
Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
Was like, yeah, go seem it's fine.
Speaker 5 (01:40:22):
I completely agree with that.
Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
I have no issue with that, honestly, you know, especially when,
like you said, they're not saying it's like totally true
right off the bat.
Speaker 4 (01:40:32):
And even even when they do say that they they
take a lot of liberties. And also like the whole
idea is based on a true story. It's like, yes,
we're taking some liberties. Like I hate when people get
mad about that kind of stuff. I'm like, we're watching
a movie, Like Robby just said, go watch a documentary.
(01:40:53):
Make a doc like this is you know it's based,
it's based, yes.
Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
But say, I've heard this one is is wildly inaccurate, right, wildly,
like I've heard like like everything about it is is
pretty inaccurate. But yeah, well and I've heard I always
heard that Robert the Bruce was pretty revered.
Speaker 4 (01:41:17):
Yes, so they didn't love that portrayal, apparently, the Scottish folks. Yeah, right,
but to be fair, you know, as we know history,
what does that even mean? I mean, you know, who's
to know what's really real? Like, I mean, the truth
is most everyone is bastards and cool to some.
Speaker 3 (01:41:33):
People at some point in their life, right, pretty much?
Of course, I thought this was fun. Wallace's two most
trusted captains throughout the films are Hamish, who is Scottish,
and Steven, who is Irish. But Hamish was played by
an Irish actor Brendan Gleeson, and Stephen by a Scottish actor,
David O'Hara, So that's just kind of a fun. It's
fun swapsy uh. Up to sixteen hundred extras were used
(01:41:59):
for the Battles Means, which is nuts cool, and most
were members of the f c A, the Reserve Irish
Army different companies usually come from the same area, and
apparently rivalries are coming within this so apparently some of
the battle scenes they say are far more realistic than
(01:42:19):
originally intended, with rival companies trying to beat the lard
out of each other.
Speaker 2 (01:42:24):
So that was not those guys we saw that were
just like they were those guys. Those guys just came
for free, free lunch.
Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
Absolutely, we get a sandwich, I'm in. And the reason
that the Reserve Irish Army was in it was most
of this film was filmed in Ireland, actually not Scotland,
so that was interesting. But the Battle of Sterling in
the film is a it's a historic fact that this
(01:42:56):
battle happened, but in reality it was a battle of
the Starling Bridge and the Scottish Army lured the English
onto the field that was largely enclosed by the River
Forth and it was only accessible from us from the
south by a small bridge that barely allowed you know,
two horses walking side by side. They hid around the
(01:43:17):
northern bank until a bunch of them had crossed over
the English army and then they attacked and so then
they had the jump on them and they couldn't retreat
and all these things, and apparently one of the a local,
asked mel Gibson why the Battle of Sterling Bridge was
filmed on an open plane, and apparently mel Gibson replied with,
(01:43:39):
well the bridge got in the way, and all the
local said was I that's what the English found, which
I thought was a pretty good response, like, yeah, they
felt that way too, which is funny.
Speaker 2 (01:43:51):
That was cute. What else we got?
Speaker 3 (01:43:54):
Mel Gibson was investigated by the animal welfare organization because
they were convince that the fake horses used were real.
Only when Gibson's one of his assistants, provided videotaped footage
of the location shooting were they convinced otherwise. And in fact,
the mechanical horses designed for the battle sequences weighed two
hundred pounds and were fueled by nitrogen cylinders, propelling them
(01:44:18):
at thirty miles an hour on twenty foot tracks.
Speaker 4 (01:44:20):
Yeah, I would love to see behind the scenes, which
saying when they hit with the spears.
Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
Oh yeah, probably the scenes for sure. Crazy I thought
about that time.
Speaker 5 (01:44:33):
How they did this?
Speaker 3 (01:44:35):
Yeah, really interesting, but they did a good job, I guess,
which is cool.
Speaker 2 (01:44:42):
Oh, this was fun.
Speaker 3 (01:44:43):
Meil Gibson was on the set of Ransom when Braveheart
and A Paull thirteen were both nominated for Best Picture,
and he pulled a prank on A Pall thirteen director
Ron Howard and producer Brian Grazer by giving them an
ad that claimed that Braveheart was actually considered for Best
Moonshot and then it had a picture of it that
it showed the Scottish Army mooning the English that that
(01:45:06):
was just pretty funny. That's a great it's a good job.
That's a great job for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:45:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (01:45:12):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:45:13):
The worst they spent several months filming all the battle scenes.
The worst injuries suffered on set was a broken nose,
which is actually pretty remarkable.
Speaker 2 (01:45:22):
That is very remarkable. We didn't even really talk about
how intense the battle scenes were and how grad they're nuts,
And I remember at the time just being like, oh
my god, like it was horrifying. At the time.
Speaker 3 (01:45:39):
I always remember that one shot with the pick axe
the helmet, and then it's like, yes, crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:45:46):
I should have brought that up.
Speaker 4 (01:45:47):
When I was talking about Oh, I thought it kind
of started the contemporary.
Speaker 5 (01:45:53):
Sort of war.
Speaker 2 (01:45:55):
Yeah, that's a good call.
Speaker 4 (01:45:56):
Movie, because I mean, it really was the first time
we saw that kind of razy graphic violence, so brutal.
Speaker 3 (01:46:03):
Yes, that setting, I guess his hand getting chopped off
and like tons get limbs.
Speaker 4 (01:46:11):
Yeah, totally, yeah, And they do such a good job
of making it so fast and furious that you just
like see it and then it's on to the next thing.
Speaker 2 (01:46:21):
It's just so you know.
Speaker 4 (01:46:23):
I think about then Stielberg a few years later doing
Saving Private Ryan, and I'm sure he was like, Okay,
I see we.
Speaker 2 (01:46:30):
Can, yeah, we can up, we can really, we can
really get in it here, like and they did, did
he And they did?
Speaker 3 (01:46:38):
Yeah, no kidding, we said this earlier. But the sequence
when Hamish throws Wallace's sword into the air and the
last battle you know, which ended up being kind of
the last shot that was improvised that was not originally
written into the script, which is pretty cool, but apparently.
Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
Sometimes they don't believe those kind of things like that.
That's a big.
Speaker 5 (01:47:01):
Choice to make it is.
Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
This line.
Speaker 3 (01:47:07):
I think Also, just because it wasn't scripted doesn't mean
they like he did it once when it wasn't scripted,
and then they went back and like really beat by
beat figured out how to shoot it all that right, probably.
Speaker 2 (01:47:20):
But also yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:47:21):
But also the reason I don't really buy that is
that Wallace jams the sword in at the end of
the Sterling battle.
Speaker 2 (01:47:29):
True. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4 (01:47:31):
The sword the sword landing is the final shot of
the movie. I'm like, there's just like to me, I'm like,
there's no way that wasn't planned that we're gonna we're
gonna bring back this shot unless they filmed Maybe it wasn't.
Maybe it wasn't that he was gonna throw it, but.
Speaker 2 (01:47:47):
Maybe it was filmed out of sequence.
Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
I don't maybe that's why, and so they were like, maybe,
well you did throw that and that was badass, so
maybe we have him do that.
Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
But yeah, that was the sword ending is a separate
shot of him. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:48:03):
Yeah, that's a good point. I'm kind of with you,
you know, it seems a little like, well, but it's
fun to think.
Speaker 4 (01:48:09):
About sometimes sometimes when they say things are improv I'm like,
when it's like an essential part of the story, I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:48:18):
Like me, yeah, yeah, yeah again, but you're right, it
could have been out of sequence. Who knows. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:48:27):
Uh, apparently Gibson really hanged himself for a moment during
the death scene, like they went a little too long
a little too hard apparently, and he had to be
cut down. And he says, all I remember is waking
up with a lot of people standing over me. So
maybe that led to him future actions.
Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
Who knows. He was depleted of oxygen for a while,
perhaps perhaps brain damage. But that's intense.
Speaker 3 (01:48:57):
Yeah, and the every man dies, not every man really lives.
The famous quote is attributed to Braveheart character, but it
was actually authored by the nineteenth century American poet William
Ross Wallace, famous for writing the poem The Hand that
Rocks the Cradle is the Hand that rules the world.
Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
And apparently he.
Speaker 3 (01:49:19):
Has no relation to William Wallace. Isn't that strange? I
was just like, it's a weird fact. Yeah, that's very weird,
very interesting. There was a lot of trivia, but that
was all I had.
Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
Yeah, I had a few things. Just Sean Connery turned
down the role of King Edward the first because he
was filming just cause.
Speaker 3 (01:49:43):
But also Sean Connery only ever spoken a Scottish accent,
so that would have been interesting.
Speaker 4 (01:49:48):
We're going to say, you have a Scottish guy who
only speaks in Scottish beat.
Speaker 5 (01:49:53):
Yeah, so Conry could never have been that evil.
Speaker 2 (01:49:56):
No way. Yeah, it would have been weird for sure.
Gibson wanted Jason Patrick to play William Wallace initially. Do
I know Jason Patrick, He did the Speed two sequel,
he did Sleepers. They wanted he wanted him to do
(01:50:19):
it when he wasn't gonna be playing him initially, Mel Gibson,
So was he always going to direct me?
Speaker 5 (01:50:26):
Tad direct and then and then didn't want he will
finance it?
Speaker 2 (01:50:31):
Yeah, they wouldn't finance it without him as the lead role. Yeah,
I wouldn't either. That's ridiculous, bro, especially at that point.
Speaker 4 (01:50:42):
Like also they I would have been like, we just
watched Kevin Costner do this like four years ago, well
when they shot it, probably three years ago, Like we
just watched Kevin Passon do this?
Speaker 2 (01:50:56):
Why would you not do this? Interesting?
Speaker 4 (01:50:59):
You Like, it's crazy that he wouldn't just do it,
right a man? Yeah, I appreciate that he was trying to,
you know, whatever, but come on, man.
Speaker 2 (01:51:13):
Another thing that I found interesting, And I don't know
how true this is, but it says he turned down
James Bond and Gold and I due to commit commitments
with this film. So they're saying that he was going
to be a Bond not an English person do that.
(01:51:33):
I don't know. It seems crazy the like he would
have done it instead of Pierce Brosna. They're saying that
he turned it down. So that does that timeline work out?
When was Golden Eye around this time? Same time? Yeah,
(01:51:57):
that was crazy. That would be a way different take
on Bond. I guess which they ended up doing. But yeah,
And one thing that I just thought was interesting is
that Randa Wallace would soon become a father for the
first time. So in order to be able to tell
his children about their heritage, one day he started to
learn about his family history. He traced their origins back
(01:52:18):
to Edinburgh, and during a visit there in eighty three,
he came across the statue of William Wallace outside of
Edinburgh Castle. He had never heard of the fourteenth century
figure shared his name, but was intrigued enough by the
stories told to him about Scotland's greatest hero to research
the story as much as possible, which eventually led him
to writing the scripts for the movie. Interesting was like
(01:52:41):
hit Randall, Yeah the same Yeah, so that seems weird,
but they didn't say if he actually was related. But
I just thought that was kind of interesting. What did
you What were the other movies?
Speaker 4 (01:52:55):
You said?
Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
Then he did Randa Wallace, he wrecked it and wrote
The Man in the Iron Mask ye, which is great
for the other ones. Yeah, Secretariat I think was one
of them. Oh and we were Soldiers with mel Gibson, Yeah,
with me, which also was a pretty s solid, solid
(01:53:21):
war movie. That was all I have though for Trivia Nice.
Do you have anything else, Benny? No, No, I didn't.
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (01:53:28):
I didn't have time.
Speaker 2 (01:53:30):
No, you're good man. Will there be a sequel Judgment Day? Yes? Absolutely? Yes?
Speaker 4 (01:53:37):
Which one I think the I think Hollywood is pining
for mel Gibson to reprised his role as a ghost.
I think this is I think this is a hard
no hard.
Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
Maybe. But in twenty nineteen, Angus mcphadon, who played Robert
the Bruce, made a film called Robert the Bruce Fun.
Speaker 5 (01:54:04):
Yeah, he played him again.
Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
He played him again. That's cool really? Yeah, like married
Harris was in it and none of us have heard
of it though. Yeah. Interesting right, clearly that did not
get a US release in any way. Not sure. I
do love some Jared, I do love some Jared Harris.
So that's legit.
Speaker 4 (01:54:26):
Yeah, dude, I was kind of hoping they were going
to cast him as Dumbledore.
Speaker 2 (01:54:31):
Yeah, that would have been great in the h In
the HBO been really fun, right, Yeah, I don't really
know any other. Oh, Patrick, fugit isn't it. That's weird,
you said, Jared Harris, Right, yeah, yeah, he's great. It
(01:54:53):
doesn't say how many. Yeah, five thousand people that rated
it on IMDb, which is never not a great grand
sign for the audience.
Speaker 4 (01:55:03):
I only said that about Dumbledore because his father played
Dumbledore originally and then he died and ruined everything because
I hate Michael Gammon.
Speaker 5 (01:55:14):
You hate him. I hate him so much.
Speaker 2 (01:55:17):
He did suck to be fair and so great. But hey,
guess what now we get our guy Live the Gal.
Speaker 4 (01:55:25):
Oh yeah, mister list Gal, who will never disappoint anyone
in anything.
Speaker 2 (01:55:31):
So no, yeah, he's old scared.
Speaker 5 (01:55:35):
He's just so scared.
Speaker 2 (01:55:37):
Well, speaking of all these actors' names, you guys want
to play a game? My god? Yeah, Well, I made
a starting five for you guys, and you know how
this works. I'm going to name five actors from a film.
When you know the film, you're going to ring in
with your name if you get it wrong, there's no
negative points, but you won't be able to guess again
for that movie. If there are actors' names remaining, you
(01:55:58):
can guess those for a point each. The other person
can steal if you get any of those names wrong.
And all of these films have something in common. When
you know the theme, you can ring in at any
time for a point.
Speaker 4 (01:56:08):
Oh yeah, Robbie, Just so you know, I feel my
voice is a little delayed, so I'm gonna also use
my hand.
Speaker 10 (01:56:15):
Okay, cool, Just you know, just so you know, I
got hello, Well played, sir, Well.
Speaker 2 (01:56:37):
Well shall we retire? That's fun, battless one. All right,
let's play this game. The first name Lewis Pullman.
Speaker 5 (01:56:54):
Benny, Damn Benny, Benny.
Speaker 2 (01:56:59):
Yeah, I said, yeah, Ben. It is not that Maverick.
It's not Maverick. Maverick. It's still not Maverick. Can you
hear me? Are you just mad? Or can you not
hear him? You have a bell?
Speaker 4 (01:57:17):
Damn it, I'm on a crazy delay all of a sudden,
it's going it out.
Speaker 2 (01:57:24):
Okay, so it is not Maverick. Are you with me? Okay? Okay,
damn yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:57:34):
Hard.
Speaker 2 (01:57:37):
You also said your name do you want to go.
Speaker 3 (01:57:39):
Well, now, I'm scared that I got the wrong name.
Can I hear the second name?
Speaker 2 (01:57:46):
Yes, you can hear the second name. The second name
is Sebastian Stoka. Is it Thunderbolts. It's Thunderbolts. Yes, yeah,
like you have warm Florence Pierre.
Speaker 9 (01:58:04):
Correct, David Harber correct, Julia Louise Drives.
Speaker 2 (01:58:11):
We got four points to start it off. That's gonna
go right away. You guys scared that wasn't his name. No,
you're good, all right, let's go to number two. The
first name is Dame Judy Dench. The second name is
(01:58:33):
Naomi Harris. Benny, Benny, I got, I got you sky Fall.
It is Skyfall. And you have three names remaining.
Speaker 5 (01:58:54):
Daniel Craig correct.
Speaker 4 (01:58:57):
Uh uh.
Speaker 2 (01:59:00):
Uh oh, damn it. I'm so impressed you got it
after Naomi Harris. So please get these namesco. I don't
have any idea. It's uh.
Speaker 5 (01:59:15):
Freaking your bard.
Speaker 2 (01:59:19):
And one more name five four three two one oh oh.
I didn't actually pick Albert Finnie, but he was debating
between picking Albert Finnie and Naomi Harris. But what were
(01:59:40):
you going to say? Ray Fines?
Speaker 5 (01:59:42):
Isn't he in this it is Ray.
Speaker 2 (01:59:44):
You got Ray, so three for Bennie, one for Bukes.
Nicely done. Do we know what it is yet? After Thunderbolts?
Since Benny Benny single word word look at you, look
at you. That's exactly a compound another point for Benny
(02:00:08):
it is. It's a one word title and it's a
compound word. So there's.
Speaker 3 (02:00:14):
Compound words.
Speaker 2 (02:00:16):
I didn't think that would come up on today's podcast.
I like it. Yeah, nice, all right, Well that might help,
it might not. Number three. I'll be surprised if you
get it. After the first two names. The first name
Karan Sony s O N I. The second name is
(02:00:40):
ed Screen or Scrine s k R E I N nobody. Okay, cool.
Number three you'll know this name t J.
Speaker 4 (02:00:54):
Miller, Bukes, bennysus, I got bugs.
Speaker 3 (02:01:01):
It's probably yeah, probably delay, but I'm gonna take I'm
delayed so much.
Speaker 2 (02:01:09):
You said it it's a deadpool. You're correct. Yeah, you
got two names remaining. Ryan Reynolds correct. Oh, probably the lady,
but I don't know her name offhand. Probably the lady,
firefly lady. That is her for three two marine, I
(02:01:31):
don't know. Oh, yeah, you're close, Benny, do you know
who that is. I don't remember her name, Marina bakerin
I was.
Speaker 11 (02:01:41):
Gonna say back at something. Okay, yeah, two second delay. Yeah,
that's not how I hear it. We got two more
for Bukes.
Speaker 2 (02:01:57):
Let's see we're good. Number four. The first name can
you hear? Can't hear? That died completely on you? Can
you hear? Benny? Sorry, I'm back, everything went out? Okay, okay,
(02:02:18):
here now a little bit okay, sweet, Yeah, we're back,
but we're frozen. I'm sorry. This is awful. You're good man.
Number four.
Speaker 4 (02:02:25):
The first first game I'm winning against Benny, and all
of a sudden, I don't I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (02:02:34):
The first name is Michael O'Keefe. The second name is
Ted Knight. The third name is Rodney danger Field Benny,
(02:02:54):
Benny Saddy Shack. Caddy Shack is correct. You have two
names remaining, Bill Murray, Chevy Chase, three points for Betty.
Nicely done. Let's go to number five. The first name
is John Hurt Benny No, yeah, let's not do that.
(02:03:20):
The second name is Jamie Bell who that is the third?
Well you record? The third name is Ed Harris. Sorry?
Speaker 6 (02:03:35):
What was that?
Speaker 5 (02:03:36):
Ed?
Speaker 2 (02:03:36):
Who? Ed Harris, sorry before? What were the first ones again?
John Hurt, Jamie bell Ed Harris, thank you. The fourth
name is Tilda Swinton, and the fifth and final name
(02:04:00):
is Chris Evans five four three two one, Oh Benny,
it's uh oh my god. The train Yeah, oh I
(02:04:23):
got it now? Yeah? Nice? Damn it? No, I just
go ahead. It's sharp, it goes through something, it really hit. Yeah,
you got it?
Speaker 6 (02:04:38):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (02:04:39):
Snow Piercer SnO, can help me out on that? Then
it went away? Yeah, that's funny. Where are we after five?
I have eight? Benny A seven.
Speaker 5 (02:04:54):
It's a close one.
Speaker 3 (02:04:55):
It's a All I need is technical difficulties.
Speaker 2 (02:04:58):
And I got it. You got this in the bag, bro,
all right. Number six. The first name is the aforementioned
Bill Murray. The second name is Abigail Breslin. Uh uh.
Speaker 8 (02:05:20):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:05:20):
The third name is Woody Harrelson. What is it called?
Bukes o Bukes? Zombie Land? Zombie Land? Start with Murray?
Speaker 5 (02:05:33):
That messed me up?
Speaker 2 (02:05:35):
Yeah. Two names remaining Emma Stone correct. One more name
the guy just directly the movie three two one God Benny.
Who is Jesse Eisenberger's correct? Two ferbugs one for Benny poop.
(02:06:02):
Let's go to number seven. The first name is Bill Hayter.
Bughs this.
Speaker 3 (02:06:12):
Oh no, that's too early. Shoot, well, I just guess
you don't have to say it now. Yeah, I'd like
to hear another name, because I think that's too early
for the movie.
Speaker 2 (02:06:21):
I was thinking, Okay, uh, you can back out number two. Yeah,
you can back up. You didn't say anything. Number two.
Emma Stone again, bukes different movie super bad, super Bad?
What was the movie you were thinking?
Speaker 4 (02:06:39):
I was thinking of train Wreck because that's also what
he would be. Second Bill right or whatever?
Speaker 2 (02:06:45):
And there right? Yeah, yeah, three names from Michael Sarah,
Jonah Hill, seth Rogen. Two of those are correct, one
is not, except it's Michael Sarah Jonah Hill.
Speaker 6 (02:07:02):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:07:02):
And we have Emma Stone and Bill Hayter. Who is
the fifth name there? Of course? Shoot, I got that.
It's not it's not oh Nick Love, Yes, yeah, I
know his name to no, damn it.
Speaker 3 (02:07:23):
I sometimes remember.
Speaker 2 (02:07:26):
I don't know damn it. It's three three names, yeah,
it's three three for.
Speaker 5 (02:07:32):
Plot.
Speaker 2 (02:07:34):
Got it?
Speaker 5 (02:07:36):
So then he gets one.
Speaker 2 (02:07:37):
There you got Jonah Hill, Michael Sarah is super bad. Yep.
We'll see how you do on number eight I think
it'll take a little bit. H The first name is
David McCullough, who is a very famous writer of non
(02:07:58):
fiction events. He narrates this film. The second name is
Chris Cooper Cooper. The third name is Elizabeth Banks, the
fourth name is Jeff Bridges, and the fifth and final
(02:08:23):
name is Toby Maguire. Benny Benny Sea Biscuit, Sea Biscuits.
That's nice. Yeah, I never saw that? Is it great?
I did? I saw it one time. Yeah, it was good.
It was up for some words. Definitely, definitely a watch. Yeah.
(02:08:47):
I wouldn't have got it till Toby for sure. All right.
I probably wouldn't have got this one either. Number nine.
The first name is Wentworth Miller. He was the star
of the prison Break series if you ever watched that.
The second name is Bill Nye, who we love. Yeah.
(02:09:11):
The third name is Michael Sheen. The fourth name is
Scott Speedman, and the fifth and final name is Kate Beckinsale.
Benny Benny Underworld, Underworld, Yeah. Nice? Where are we going
(02:09:38):
into ten? I have thirteen? Benny has eleven? Oh man,
oh man, alright. Number ten. The first name is Michael
go It's G O U G. H So it might
be GOFF, but I think it's go I don't know, Yeah,
(02:09:58):
you might have. The second name is Billy D. Williams,
Billy D, Billy D. The third name is Kim Basinger,
Benny Benny, Benny, Benny Batman, Batman. Two names remaining Michael Keaton,
(02:10:23):
Jack Nicholson for the win. He won with the technical difficulties.
Nicely done, Broa, nicely done, Buddy, and he went off
(02:10:46):
screen perfectly. That was That's wonderful. Nice job. Way to go, Benny.
You're gonna tell us how we do our top five
movies based on his court historical figure drafts easy for
me to say, and but that's just going to be
for our patrons. That's right.
Speaker 3 (02:11:02):
If you want to hear that, go to patreon dot
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It's tons of fun. I promise you'll love it. Penny.
Thanks so much for coming on, Buddy. It's always a blast,
you guys.
Speaker 4 (02:11:16):
Unbelievable. One of the best movies ever. Damn it Mel,
Why are you?
Speaker 2 (02:11:21):
Damn it damn it Mel, damn it Mal? But man,
what a what a film.
Speaker 3 (02:11:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:11:28):
Really happy to be here. Happy to be bad buddy.
Speaker 5 (02:11:31):
It's good to be back in Burbank.
Speaker 2 (02:11:33):
Johnny love that.
Speaker 3 (02:11:39):
Stay tuned, ladies and gentlemen for another great movie coming
up for you next week. You'll find out when we do.
Speaker 2 (02:11:44):
What it is Lucky, it'll be good.
Speaker 3 (02:11:47):
Uh yeah, And that does it today. For a breat heart,
I'm Rob Lone quizt I'm Bukes. Thank you guy so
much for listening. Until we talk to you next time.
In Joey the Great Indoors.
Speaker 5 (02:11:58):
The sun shine cloud.
Speaker 1 (02:12:00):
In the sky, we wouldn't know because we're so happy inside.
Speaker 5 (02:12:07):
Some people row a boat or put on some skis,
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Speaker 1 (02:12:11):
Rather sit on down and talk some movies. Where the
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The Avid Indoorsmen.
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