A.I. EP. 312: “Houston, We Have A Problem” - Apollo 13 30th Anniversary - The Avid Indoorsmen

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The sun is shining out of cloud in the sky.
We wouldn't know because we're so happy inside.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Some people on some skis, but we.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Would rather sit on down and talk some movies. We're
the evid Indoorsmen. Come listen to our show. We're the
Evidendoorsmen at home more on the go. We're the evidendors Man.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
We hope you love it, so come on in and stay.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
We'll do our best to make use my the indoors man.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
What is happening? I'm Rob one Christ and I'm and
we are the avid indoors Men.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Everybody.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
How are you, buddy?

Speaker 3 (00:52):
I'm so good, pal. I'm just reveling in Minnesota sports today.
We don't make any shades. I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Tell me all about it. I mean, I know, a
wonderful day. Yeah they didn't just win.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah, he rushed them like a grape. The Links won
their first playoff game of the second round today.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
The Twins won. Apparently I wasn't. I just saw that
that happened. The Wild won their first preseason game. It's
winter city over here, buddy, Yeah, Minnesota, we did it, Minnesota.
That's so much better, right, I've never thought of that
probably because we don't.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Usually get to say that.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, no, man, it was a good day. How are you.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
I'm good man, I'm out on the road. I'm in
currently in Saint Louis. Oh yeah, and today San Luis Zelli.
It was a pretty beautiful day. However, I spent all
day watching football in this hotel room. It was oneonderful.

(02:00):
We don't usually get Sundays.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Off, so I know that's nice.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
That was really nice. But yeah, this tour, we're into
the deep tour and we're out with the Longest John's
and we've done three shows and they've been a bunch
of fun.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
It looks like they're so great.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Those guys are so cool, man. I'm a big fan
of each and every one of the guys in the band.
It's a bummer because Robbie isn't able to be here.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
I saw that.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for a good.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Reason, right, I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, they're adding another family member, which is really nice.
But yeah, we're just having a blast so far, and
the crowds have been really fun. We could use more
people out at the shows. So if you're hearing this
and want to come on, please go to home for
Music dot com and come and check out the endo

(02:53):
the Deep tour, and also our album just dropped on
Friday and that was pretty fun. Yeah dude, Yeah, the
vinyl turned out really cool.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
I'm gonna have to purchase one of those. I think
I'll be in the dells if anyone wants to come,
say hi and check out that show.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, come and check it in.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, dude, the art looks so cool. You gets are
killing it.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
It's fun.

Speaker 6 (03:16):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
How Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, it's been cool. It's been fun singing all these shanties.
It's a little different. We're still doing, uh, some of
our regular things that people are used to hearing us. Yeah,
but yeah, a lot of new stuff, man, and boy,
my brain was working so hard.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
Well yeah, well I believe it because.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
We're also learned, like two tours at the same time,
because after this you're doing, you know, yes, exactly whole
other thing, right.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
But not only that, we're singing on like six of
their songs and like, yeah, three or four new songs.
So it's just like I was visibly thinking you could tell.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Words too, and these shanties and things, but I'm terrible
with those.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
You know, I'm terrible with those, dude, I hear you,
I hear you. We're getting through it. It's fun though.
That's cool, buddy. Good vibes though, huh, great vibes.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
They're so fun.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
I love those guys.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, I love them.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Nice well, very cool, buddy. Have you been watching any
films lately? I have kind of. This was one that
I actually watched on my China.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Trip, because that's dude, I logged in so many movies
on that trip.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
That's a backlog. That's what we call it.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yes, but dude, I went and watched it. Was a
big movie last year called me cap Ye mee cap
It's one word. This movie was awesome. I watched it
on Netflix. It's about a real hip hop band that's
based in Ireland and the main plot is that the

(04:53):
schools out there are trying to stop teaching the Irish
language oh because they're just like people aren't really using it,
and so they released some songs that feature Irish and
they get pretty popular. It's surprisingly funny, the music is
really good. There's a pretty cool message in there as well.

(05:15):
I was surprised by how much I liked it. I
would definitely recommend checking it out. It was super like
stylized and I just felt hip watching it.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Very cool. Nice, Yeah, it was cool. I've never even
heard of this.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
I don't highly highly recommend it. Love that and I
didn't know that that what I was telling Luke, our manager,
about it, and he was like, oh, is that the
Irish rap group?

Speaker 3 (05:41):
And I was like, yeah, yeah, Luke get weirdo, what
are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (05:46):
He knows everything about music, but yeah, every.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Once in a while I'm just like, no, I didn't
know that one piece of minutia.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
I'm sorry, amazing, but he he was familiar, and I
was like, yeah, they made a movie about kind of
how they got started, and it was knowing that it
was a real thing. Yeah, infinitely cooler, So yeah, I
would check it out.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Wow, very cool. I'll have to have it.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
What have you been watching?

Speaker 3 (06:13):
I watched a film that I don't think I've talked about.
I can never remember, but stop me if I have,
and I'll pick a different one. But I saw the
crazy film weapons. You did not Okay? I didn't think
we talked about.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
This on here, but you excuse me?

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yes, what a question?

Speaker 7 (06:33):
No?

Speaker 2 (06:35):
I just sneezed so hard right into the microphone.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
It's all good. It's all good. Weapons, dude, this movie
is deeply uncomfortable. I did love it a lot, but
just in the worst way. I actually rented it and
watched it here at my house, and thank god because

(07:00):
I had to like talk to myself during it because
it was freaking me out, Like I was just like,
why are you are you doing this? I was like
the person in the horror movie that's like, don't go
in there.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Stop us.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
What are you doing to me? So I was stressed out.
I was pacing at one point. I want I did
what you wanted to do when you were watching the
Adam Gems cut Gems. It is stressful. It's really well done.
It's a really cool idea. The structure of the movie
is really fun. I don't want to give away anything
because it's also it's a fun experience. But it is

(07:36):
absolutely a horror movie. So if that's not your thing,
I get it. I loved it though. It's really really good.
It's there for one of the best movies I've seen
this year. I mean, wow, I didn't enjoy the time done,
but it's really good.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
I think I had told you before before my dad
and I saw Nobody Too. In the theater. That was
one of the previews, and my dad looked over at
me and he was like, there is no way you
could pay me to watch that movie. It was it
looked so scary. Whoever had the idea to make those

(08:19):
kids run with their arms out like that? Yeah, that
is the most terrifyingly creepy thing I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, and it's just it's wild. It's it's crazy. But
if you can like that stuff even at all, I
think you're gonna enjoy this movie. I gave it a
nine on IMDb. I really liked it a lot.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
It's Leila and Stitch material, right, but it's like, we're
right in there.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
I know. I wish I could parse it out a
little more because it's not quite to that level. But
I kind of remember, never say the ratings because then
you look like an athlet. I did like this movie though.
Juliet Garner is so great in it.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
From those she's the teacher.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Right, Yeah, Josh Roan is in it. I say anyone else, because.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Don't say anyone else. Those are the two people I
saw on the trailer.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah, exactly. It's wild, but it is scary and off
putting and unsettling and all these things. So do with
that what you will. But that's what I watched. Have
you been streaming anything I have?

Speaker 2 (09:24):
I've been watching something much more fun involving kids.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Okay, I hope so, Okay, yes, Kels.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
And I have been wanting to show our kids more
movies that we loved growing up. Oh I love that idea,
And so we went to Disney Plus and we watched
Honey I Shrunk the kids.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Oh my god, I mean this movie is a banger.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
I loved it so much when I was a kid.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
We would do that movie on here at some point
because I loved it.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, it was eighty nine, so we would just have
to like, do it.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
We'll get her in there for sure.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Some of it doesn't look super real anymore. Yeah, it's,
you know, nineteen eighty nine, but it's still so much fun.
The kids really enjoyed it. There was a bit with
an ant and a scorpion that kind of bummed them out,
but overall, yeah, they were into it.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Okay, cool, that didn't scare them too much. Okay, good good.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
No, it wasn't so much scary. It was more bummery,
you know, I got But yeah, when we were watching it,
Kelson and I did have the observation that so their
kids are like miniature in the yard and they just
go to sleep, and they're like, we better, we better
get some sleep. Look for them in the morning, and

(10:44):
then the next morning, No, the next morning, they look
for them for about two seconds and then they're like, oh,
I better have some breakfast.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
I got to eat.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
And that's where like the cheerio scene comes in, and
you're just like, what are these parents doing, dude? So
if we observation, I like that a lot if we
ever end up doing that one. But it was a
lot of fun, nice love it. What have you been streaming?

Speaker 3 (11:16):
I rented okay, come on so many rentals, but this
wasn't streaming anywhere yet. I feel like it might be.
But I watched the classic from nineteen hundred and sixty nine,
The Summer of Love. I watched watch Cassidy and the
Sun Dance Kid in honor of Robert Redford. Yes, rip, yeah,

(11:38):
So I had never seen this. Upon a rewatch, I
feel like maybe my dad did watch this at some
point because parts of it looked familiar, or maybe it's
just such an old classic that I've seen little parts
of it.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Part of the man.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
This movie was really fun. Those two Paul Newman and
Robert Redford. I mean, I totally got why they made
so many movies together because they are just both like
charisma bombs. In this movie, they're just really grand like that,
They're really great. They're really fun. It had way more
humor than I thought would be in it. You know,
it's a western, so I was kind of like, I

(12:15):
don't know what are we going to get out of this?
But I really liked it a lot. I had a
great time watching it. I recommend it, And yeah, I'm
gonna try and watch a few Robert Redford films.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Now, Yeah, dude, I watched I watched that on a plane.
I then watched Three Days of the Condor.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
That's the next time. That is that good? Should I
watch that next? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:35):
It was really good. That was that was fun, totally great.
But yeah, I'm sure there's some Robert Redford ones that
I've missed that I got to check out.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
But yeah, at some point I have to watch The Sting,
although I have a personal bendat against that movie, so
that's gonna be hard.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
But you know, Okay, the.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Music, I said is very subpar. Oh that's the one
that Marv One is oscar for. I think okay, and
you know my personal vendennas are mar and Joe Peshi.
As we learned, I get it, so no, but I
will be watching some of those.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
You got to watch Sneakers because you haven't seen that
great and.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
You love that one, right that one? Yeah, yeah, I
will have to do that. But yes, so you know,
I'm trying to use these. I feel like it's a
good excuse with the unfortunate news, but to kind of
celebrate their lives and watch some of these movies after
these cool sure die and yeah, so it's just been
kind of fun. But yeah, I really liked it. It

(13:36):
was fun, very cool. Nice. Well, what do you think
should we do if you plugs.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, let's plug it up.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Okay, great, you guess can find us as always over
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Speaker 7 (14:01):
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We give them a lot of perks. One of those
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Speaker 2 (14:15):
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to give to all of our patrons is an extended
version of every episode that we put out. We'll usually

(14:37):
do a top five draft that pertains to the movie
we're talking about, and for this one, we decided to
do our top five favorite movies in space.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
And there are so many, rob There's so so many,
so so many. I actually feel like I did. I
wrote a bunch of them down and then I didn't
get a chance to go back to it, and now
I'm like, oh, I probably missed it. But we'll see.
I got some bangers, so it'll be fun.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
I believe it.

Speaker 5 (15:03):
It'll be fun.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Yeah, we will look forward to that, Greg, But we
are here today to talk about a great space movie.
What's a little film called Apollo thirteen from nineteen hundred
and ninety five, so it would be thirty.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
I believe it's exactly right. That map is correct.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah, tough for me. Super excited to talk about this film.
And we got one of our our old well he's
not our oldest pal. He's a long serving pal of ours,
that's what we've said in the past, and he loves
all things space. So, ladies and donal, let's give it
up for Pat Nelson.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
What's up? Pat?

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Boys?

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Oh my god, I wear.

Speaker 6 (15:47):
A Delue shirt too.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Oh your shirt.

Speaker 6 (15:50):
My friend gave me this. My friend gave of this
for birthday.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
That's sure for the listeners. We all met in Duluth,
which did We went to school up there together.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yeah, we've just been lovers ever since decades ago. It's
been so long, dude, you were saying before we got
on here. Pat, you've been in the Greater Twin Cities
area for twenty years now.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
June was June like fifth was twenty years which.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Wow, which makes sense because I don't underas a couple
of years behind you. That's wild.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
I don't understand.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
And we've met more than that before. So we've known
each other a minute, were saying, but it's been.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
A while, and very glad that it has been. We're
back here, man, It's good to see you.

Speaker 6 (16:32):
Yeah, I told you so. For people listening to this,
they you know, they'll send out a list to people
that have done it before that, and this movie was
on the list. And I said, I think I said
something like, I will threaten to end our friendship, right,
I am not considered to do this episode.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Yeah, And you were, of course considered after everyone else canceled.
We did Calle so it worked.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Out the story in my life.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
I'm just kidding. We were so excited that you were
interested in doing it. So great. You love this movie
and just all things Space Program basically, right, Does that
seem fair to say?

Speaker 6 (17:06):
Yeah? And it was this movie that this was the movie.
It came out in what ninety five, in seventh or
eighth grade. I was in seventh or eighth grade, I
think seventh grade, and all my I still have a
couple of the day planners from school and there's just
Saturn fives drawn.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
In all of that.

Speaker 6 (17:23):
Wow, I just right away and I'm still still for
my birthday. Last year, my wife took me to the
Apollo Mission Control in Houston. Got a VIP tour of
mission control where they where all the Ed Harris stuff.
Is like I was in that room and I freaking
out where you cried I would, And they've redone it.

(17:48):
They like redid it a few years ago for the
moon landing anniversary, so it's the way they present it.
It's all restored to nineteen sixties pristine.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
And it's like everything fake.

Speaker 6 (17:58):
The rooms, you know, all the screens are off, and
then those screens all just slowly turned on and I was.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Like, oh, the.

Speaker 6 (18:08):
Best part it was me. It was a small group.
It was me and Alyssa and then you know a
couple other couples, and it was me and this woman
who is probably about our age, and she had like, Houston,
I am. The problem is what it said on her
shirt sick. Alyssa has that shirt too, And we were
standing kind of next to each other when the screens

(18:29):
came on and I wiped tears out of my eyes
and looked at her.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
She was like, I suppose right, You're getting people who
love this that are paying for the VX, you know, like.

Speaker 6 (18:40):
Experience, and that's like mecca for this place, and that
looks exactly like it doesn't the movie, I'll talk about that.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
That's so cool, sick.

Speaker 6 (18:49):
So yeah, this movie, this movie generated I'm a musician
for my life full time, and this movie generated my
non biggest non music hobby that I've had.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
All these You love that, I love that. Well, super fun.
We're so excited to have you so excited. Boom, I'm
so excited. I think we should get right into it.
Probab you want to hit us with a rough SYNOPSI sure.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
This Hollywood drama is based on the events of the
Apollo thirteen lunar mission. Astronauts Jim Level, Fred Hayes, and
Jack Swigert find everything going according to plan after leaving
Earth's orbit. However, when an oxygen tank explodes, this scheduled
moon landing is called off. Subsequent tensions within the crew
and numerous technical problems threatened both the astronauts' survival and

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their safe return to Earth.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Ooh, nice, good read good read great inflection, Thank you,
great inflection, thank you wonderful. Let's go to Rotten Tomatoes
and hear what they have to say. Critics have us
coming in at a rock solid ninety four percent gang Boom.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
That is hated.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Audience members a little bit. All that at eighty seven percent.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
People are they're the thirteen percent.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Or just I just wonder, like, how many of those
thirteen percent are like we never made it even close
to the moon.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
If they did a breakdown, I bet the moon hoax
people would be about thirteen percent of the podcast.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah, that seems that seems right to me. Silly, silly people.
But let's go in and hear what we think. It's
time for our hot take.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Hot take.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Oh, that's a hot take.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
That's a hot take.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Oh, spicy, the cold heat of vacuum in space.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
Good?

Speaker 3 (20:39):
What do you want for me? I don't know. They
got cold and that's so cold.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Well then when they're coming in, Oh, that.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Would have been so much better. That's where I thought
you were. No, Nope, I.

Speaker 6 (20:50):
Didn't go there.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Your singers, huh the worst way anyhow. I barely do
that anymore. Let's my hot take. This is not a movie.
I've seen a bunch of times. I have seen it
a few but I think I saw it sort of
later in life for the first time. I was maybe
just a little bit young in ninety five. I don't

(21:13):
know why I didn't see it. Oh you know, actually
this was when we didn't have a movie theater in town.
That probably played pretty large to it. Anyhow, I've seen
it a few times now. I really like this movie
a lot. I think it's it's obviously from one of
in my opinion, like the most wonderful times in human
history as far as like pushing the boundaries of what

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human beings can do. The US in you know, basically
just deciding, you know, and we can get into like
their motivation and all that that's maybe not as like
beautiful and wonderful, but you know, as they were battling
the Russians to get to the moon, but going from
basically learning to fly on Earth to going to the
moon and then being able to not only go to

(21:59):
the moon but also troubleshoot on the way back, you know,
and get people home within like fifty or sixty years
is insane to me. And I really think it's beautiful.
This movie is beautiful. As far as the shots that
they get. I can't believe they got some of this
stuff back in ninety five or like made it look
as cool as it does. That shot that we get

(22:22):
as the like booster is, you know, detaching from the
shuttle and we see it like through the halo of
that we see Earth Like that's so cool. I love
that shot so much. There's a great score to this movie.

Speaker 6 (22:37):
Likes corner score.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah, man, it really too. It made me cry a
few times, which I'm sure we'll get into at some
point or another. But yeah, just great performances. I think.
Just a terrifying thing to think about, you know, like
people being marooned so far away and so close to
imminent danger all times, and the fact that people came

(23:02):
together and got them back home. They used their wits
and wiles. I just love it. Yeah, big fan of
this movie. My hot take, I do believe we landed
on the Moon, despite not doing it in this particular mission.
I think we did it. And there's a time I
would have said that's not a hot take, but I
feel it's increasingly more popular to say we didn't again,

(23:26):
so that's a hot take.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
I don't know. Well, after seeing that movie fly Me
to the Moon, did you see that, Pat, I.

Speaker 6 (23:32):
Did not see that.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
That's a fun movie.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
It's basically them like in case they didn't get footage
of them on the moon. They did actually have like
a backup plan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I kind of
see where people were.

Speaker 6 (23:47):
But yeah, well it's like anything else, anything else, And
especially in the US, anytime any big cataclysmic cultural thing happens,
there's always yeah, ten years down the road of conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Right, Yeah, but I'm with you guys for sure. Hot
take buddy, but we're here. It's a take.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Such a great movie.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
It was directed by Ron Howard, who's made some pretty
incredible movies over the years, and shockingly, this is only
the second film that he's a directed that we've done
an episode on. Really. Yes, the other one was Solo
the Star Wars Story. Isn't that funny?

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Well, his finest film and all of his amazing films.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Shocked, that's the one that's the word. But this film.
It was up for nine Academy Awards, winning two for
Best Sound and Best Editing. It was based on the
book by Jim Lovell and Jeffrey Krueger called Lost Moon,
Pat Did you ever read that one?

Speaker 3 (24:52):
I did?

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, I knew you did.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
That's a great book.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
I don't have it. I have it somewhere, but it's
not on this I looked for it, but yeah, I
read it after I saw it nice well.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
The screenwriters were William Broyles Junior and Al Reinert. They
did the screenplay and I thought they did a great job.
I was shocked at how well the movie held up
thirty years later. With the visuals. I thought they were
still really really intense. None of the special effects really

(25:20):
took me out of it, which is, you know, thirty
year old movie you would expect to be like, oh that.
I can't believe they did that so intense. Still, after
seeing it so many times, I had seen it a
bunch when I was younger, I was still very stressed
out during this rewatch. I also agree that the score

(25:41):
was incredible by James Horner. The cinematography was awesome, Like
you said that, acting was incredible.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
So so good.

Speaker 6 (25:50):
Front to back. It's not really a week. There's no week.
There's not really any week acting either.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
There's a ton of people in it. Like the Tutu
is going to be length.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
It'll be a lengthy to Chess. But yeah, my hot take.
I was convinced that James Horner borrowed some ideas from
this movie, okay, and I thought it was in the
Fugitive however, of course it was actually he took it

(26:22):
from his own score and it was in the Pelican
Brief whenever it's like really intense and it just kind
of sounds like random piano, like oh yeah, sure that
that always went to the fugitive for me. But it's
it's the Pelican Brief and he just stole it and
put it in this movie, which I that was kind
of fair.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
That's hilarious for you, it's amazing mm hmmm, lazy, but
good for you. Hot take.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, Pat, what you got buddy?

Speaker 6 (26:53):
Oh boy, I don't know why. I think I just
went randomly with some friends or something the first time
I saw and I knew nothing about any of the
stuff at that time, and I was in seventh grade
and not a very smart person, but it absolutely left
us some sort of mark on me. Yeah, I think
the attention to detail seeing it. You know, I've seen

(27:16):
it one hundred thousand times and since then, I've done
a lot of I'm particularly interested in the engineering side,
so like the mission control guys, or that's what I
would have done if I would have been alive at
that time.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
I would have loved to do that.

Speaker 6 (27:29):
And I mean every literally every knob and switch in
the command module, in the lunar module, in mission control,
every switch, every panel is correctly labeled. They've faithfully reproduced
all of it, and I think that lends to its authenticity.
And you were talking about the effects. The effects hold

(27:50):
up because a lot of them, most of them are practical,
a lot of them you don't realize are practical, and
they actually they flew in the vomit comet well actual
waitless shots which you've never been done before. But the
nerd stuff aside. It's like you're saying, people are fascinated
with being marooned. So it's a survival story. It's you're marooned.

(28:14):
It's got that, it's got humor. There's a lot of
humor in it, and yeah, a lot of very subtle,
like laugh out loud sillyness in it. In spots, there's
a love story in it. You know, they cover there
the way they're able to cover all of it, and
then it's all packaged up in like an Oscar quality movie.

(28:36):
It's just all in there. It was one of those
that just everybody saw on and was like, yeah, yeah,
that's amazing, right, yeah, hot take, Yes, it's I will
say it is hard to watch as now a NASA enthusiast.
My hot take is that while the storytelling is great,

(28:59):
some of the historical inaccuracies can be irritating. My face
is turning red because I'm the only one that I'm
of the even smaller percentile that's like, well that's not
you say that then, Yeah, but yeah, it's really it's
a even if you're not a big space nerd like

(29:21):
I am, it's just a It's just one of those
movies you don't ever turn off. If you if you
come past turned.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Off, yeah, it's a classic. If you're on tour and
you come in like part way through that movie, you
have to watch the rest of it for sure. Yeah,
I guess I'm doing this for at least a little bit.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
It's so funny. My dad is such a huge World
War two nut, so that if he ever watches one
of those kind of movies, if there's a historical inaccuracy,
he can't get by it.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
He can't watch Its funny. What's what's the other one?
I've heard him talk, Oh JFK. He was just like,
oh my god, yeah.

Speaker 6 (29:59):
It's funny because when I first thought I didn't know
any of that stuff. And then as I over the
years read some of these fine periodicals like the Apollo
thirteen Technical Manual, Norman Mailer's Moonfire, and Gene Kranz is
ed Harris's character failure.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Is not an option.

Speaker 6 (30:14):
Wow, as I read, you know, over the years more
of this stuff, and then it's like, well, wait, the biggest,
the biggest one, the most glaring one for me, is
that the Kevin Bacon character Jack Schwicker. He's portrayed as
a rookie who is you know, they're not quite sure,
and it always it still kind of rubs me wrong
because the reality was, and people don't know this, is

(30:35):
that Jack Spiker ended up running for Congress and he
died right after he got elected. Never had any family,
he was he had been an astronaut for a long time.
He wasn't he was a rookie as far as going
to space. But he helped develop the command module and
he was the astronaut that actually helped write the checklist
for the Command module malfunction. So he is actually the

(30:57):
best possible guy that could have been there for that.
And the thing that rus me is that he didn't
have family really behind and he wasn't around, so they
were like, wow, we can kind of kick him under
the bus, and a little bit was the reality was
that this guy came in, you know, two days before,
which is true when Charlie Duke, when Charlie Duke got
the measles gave everybody, By the way, this is Charlie
Duke on the moon, signed photo Charlie Duke.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
D But the fact that he was able.

Speaker 6 (31:24):
To competently jump in two days before, I mean, that's wild.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
So he was replacing I thought he was replacing Ken Maddingly.

Speaker 6 (31:32):
Was that Yeah, So Charlie Duke got the measles, gave
it to Ken Maddingly, kicked Ken Maddingle off and put
in Jack Swygert.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
W Flowers never bloomed in Houston.

Speaker 6 (31:44):
Flowers never bloomed in Houston. But that's the only one
that's still like, oh man, I just somewhere that Jack Swikert's.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Like, come on, I wrote that.

Speaker 6 (31:57):
The rest of this stuff, the rest of the stuff
is so it's so minor that doesn't bother me, which
is also pretty incredible.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
You can also kind of understand why they put that
in there, and it makes it much more dramatic.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Narratively, that makes a lot of sense, right, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (32:13):
And I totally get that too. And the other part
of that is that there's another astronaut who is His
name is Dave Scott.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
He was on Apollo fifteen.

Speaker 6 (32:23):
He was an advisor on this movie, so he was
on set like, Nope, they would.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Have held it like this. They like this. That's cool.

Speaker 6 (32:29):
And his whole thing is he acknowledges there are some
things that they they fudged with, he said, but in
the long term, he said, you could show this to
somebody in a hundred years who asked what was what
was it like to be in Houston in nineteen seventy
in the middle of this era, and he said, and
everybody they've talked to about it says they watched this

(32:50):
movie and they said, that is exactly like the culture,
the jokes, the whole like they captured. He said, it's
like watching a time machine of that era. And so
for him, it was worth it for some of the
smaller details to really capture, like a whole movement like that.
That's really cool.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah, wild, that's cool man. Well, hot takes all around, guys,
takes how much how much the tape you got This
isn't even close to as long as we went on
a hot take. Oh yeah, we've entered into like the
first hour. I think sometimes we get Benny on here.
We've gone on six tangents already.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
It's crazy, the tangent king.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
He really is. But that was wonderful. Let's go in
and name our favorite acting performance. Shall we name the dude?

Speaker 2 (33:39):
The dude?

Speaker 8 (33:40):
I'm the dude, So that's what you call me, you
know that? Or his dude or duder or you know,
el dudo reno. If you're not into the whole brevity thing.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Pat, you want to go first, who's your dude for
this movie?

Speaker 2 (33:54):
The dude?

Speaker 6 (33:55):
And it said on the outline that it doesn't need
to be a lead, And really really think that the
person with the most emotionally dynamic and impressive performance is
Kathleen Quinlan who played She Has. She's the one. She's
the one. You know Tom Hanks character Jim levels up,
there has to be stoic. She's the one that's actually

(34:18):
having the emotions while no one else can, and she
goes through all of them. And I just think it's
incredible the way that Yeah, so that's for me.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
It's and she was nominated for Best Supporting Actresses. Well
she was.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
She was one of the noms.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Nice it was her and Ed Harris was nominated for
Best Supporting I took the low hanging for it. I'm
going to take Tom Hanks. Yeah, he was my number two. Yeah,
I just I can't imagine anyone else beside Tom Hanks

(34:56):
doing this role. He is like such a leader, such
a good dude. He kept a cool head, was the
voice of reason when the other guys were kind of
losing it, Like, he is the guy that you want
in that spot.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
I just thought it was the perfect casting choice.

Speaker 6 (35:14):
What's great about it, too, is that Tom Hanks is
as much of a space nerd as I am, and
has been.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
His whole life.

Speaker 6 (35:20):
So when he found out that was happening, he's like,
I have to have this movie. Jim Lovell, when they
he got the book deal and before he even wrote
the book, someone heard he got the book deal and
he got the movie deal before you even finished.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
The book, he said. He said, they said, write your
book and then we're going to make a movie out
of it. He said.

Speaker 6 (35:37):
The whole time, he's he thought, I kind of thought
Kevin Costner looked like me when I was young, and
he kind of did so. He was like I always
had in my mind, Kevin Costner and they said Tom
Hanks and he said.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Well, I'm glad it ended up being time.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Okay, we'll take that. We'll take Tom Hanks. Yeah, probably
could have not as good as Tom.

Speaker 6 (35:55):
I think Tom Hanks is his his true childlike enthusiasm
for all of that.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
I mean for him it.

Speaker 6 (36:02):
Was like the going to the best space camp you
could imagine.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
D That'd be so fun if you were into that
to like get to Yeah, that'd be amazing. Yeah, so cool.
I also took the low hanging fruit because he's a
close personal friend of my friend Rob Lonquiz from Home Free.
I chose Tom Hanks.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
I go to meet him last year.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
It was crazy.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
It was the weirdest thing ever.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
And he said I'm Tom and Rob was like, yeah,
I know, I understand.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Did you?

Speaker 6 (36:33):
I mean, how did you even? How are you?

Speaker 3 (36:37):
If?

Speaker 2 (36:37):
He walked to us and I literally out loud went
oh my god. There were other people by us, so
it was just like, oh, I am not going to
play cool so much, and then I just play quiet.

Speaker 6 (36:52):
It's funny, how you I'm going to Alyssa bought me
to take us to see.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
McCartney for my birthday. Sick amazing.

Speaker 6 (36:59):
And I've over my years performing, I've gotten to meet
some cool people and Rob, you guys both probably in
your time, and I'm usually pretty like it doesn't rattle me.
But if I were to meet Paul McCartney, I would,
oh my god fall yeah I don't.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
And people surprised his voice.

Speaker 6 (37:20):
Dude, imagine I've heard you my whole life.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Seriously, I don't got me.

Speaker 6 (37:26):
I love that you did involuntarily. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
I was like, I imagine Chance was next to you.
He was just like man, but yeah, I hear you, though, Rob,
I would get so quiet after that, like that's my
go to is like, well, I'm going to be well,

(37:51):
I'm going to try to be so cool that I'm
almost aloof that's my gor.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
That's what I do. But he was just so great
and he knows he gives that off like you can
just yeah, takes control, you know, and so you don't
feel like an idiot.

Speaker 6 (38:08):
That's what a gracious, what a gracious and selfless thing
to do, because you know that everywhere he goes all
the time, his whole life, he's doing that. He's got
to do that.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Do you remember, good on him for being for doing that.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Remember early COVID. When he got COVID. Let's just started sighing.
I was terrified. Not Tom.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
No, that was the first that she called me. We were,
we were, I was.

Speaker 6 (38:31):
I was on a recording session as they were shutting
things down, and we're like, well boy, and they then
our honeymoon got canceled, which is our six year anniversary tonight.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (38:41):
And she called me. She's like, it looks like our
honeymoon's cat Like, oh my god, this's crazy. And then
we saw Tom Hanks and she called me Tom.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Eggs are away good?

Speaker 3 (38:50):
She said, they can't take Tom megs. They can't can't.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Leave him.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Yeah, anyway, and I'm jealous.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
That's very that's very exciting around.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
So cool, so cool. But I chose him for all
the reasons you guys said. I just think he's he's
the perfect at least what I think of as sort
of that like lofty ideal of what an astronaut is
is sort of like cool under pressure. They're working the problem,
you know what I mean, Like they really go into
engineer mode, I feel like, you know, when stuff does

(39:23):
come up, and and they're all really smart obviously, but
they also all are really systematic in their thinking, which
I think is so important for those positions at least.
Again the tiny bit. I know, I'm not, I'm not
a ass in to it as you are, Pat for sure,
but very I just think and his what did you say?

(39:44):
It's a few of us, me and the lady with
the shirt. That's pretty much it. But yeah, I just
think the personality he brings to everything and getting to
see them go, you know, through all the phases from
like watching to you know, like reveling in it like
everyone else did at the time.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
I think it's cool too. They're not, They're not.

Speaker 6 (40:05):
They have because they had, you know, the astronauts. There
was the stoicism thing. So they're not really culturally at
that time allowed to express anything they're feeling, right, and
they and all three of them, all three was a
Bill Paxson, Kevin Bake and Tom Hanks all do a
good job of being obviously terrified while coming across is

(40:25):
totally chill about it.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Yeah, totally. And yeah, and that period of like masculinity,
you weren't really supposed to the show vulnerability, you know
what I mean. So yeah, I just think they portrayed
all that so well while also letting the the emotions
peek through right just enough to show us. But I
just I love him. I think he's he's the best.

Speaker 6 (40:45):
Talking about that masculinity bit. When they first came up,
when they were trying to design those spacesuits they were
for the waste collection, they would put like a condom
that was attached to a bit, you know, And so
they the first time they you know, had to get
all the astronauts. They had to get the condom size,
and it was small, medium or large, and all the
astronauts said large.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
I remember reading this somewhere.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
They had to change it.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
To large, huge, large, huge and humongous.

Speaker 6 (41:11):
Otherwise they so they got so they got the paperwork
back and every astronaut wrote large on the.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
That's a true story.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
You have a kid size.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
That was the culture that so much.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Oh that's silly. But as we said, the rest of
the cast is amazing. Should we talk about everybody else?
Shall we name the Tucci the Tucci?

Speaker 6 (41:43):
This one I had ed Harris as genekrants.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
A fine pick for sure, incredible.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
And he nails that guy. That guy is.

Speaker 6 (41:54):
I mean, like I said, I've got his that guy's
book too, and that guy was. That is how that
guy was, And to this day he's still like ninety whatever.
When Alyssa took me to Houston to go to Mission Control,
we got delayed because of weather. But we were going
to a book signing. I was going to meet him,
but we missed it because of the weather. I was
crushed because that guy ruled with an iron fist. But

(42:18):
they all loved him and he loved all of them.
And yeah, and Ed Harris really nails that hole the seriousness.
But then at the end, there's a famous interview of
Gene Kranz from years ago before the movie came out,
talking about it, and he's talking about when they finally
get back and they put up on the screen like
welcome home or whatever, he broke down and cried. And

(42:39):
in the interview he starts crying. This was like twenty
years after it happened. And Ron Howard showed that to
gene Kranz, or showed that to Ed Harris, and Ed
Harris said, you want me to kind of do some
of that and he said, yeah, So that scene at
the end. You know, he never cracks the whole time,
and then at the end he finally sits down and cries.
It's like, that's exactly how that went down.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Yeah, that's super cool.

Speaker 6 (43:01):
So yeah, and you could tell he really you can
tell Ed Harris really put his time in on that
part too, like he really wanted to get it right.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
That's a great pick.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Well, yeah, he was also nominated. That's a great pick.
I love that he titled his book Failure is Not
an Option. That's pretty great.

Speaker 6 (43:19):
And it's what's funny about that is he he never
said that, and he said.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
That like that was yeah, that was a he said.

Speaker 6 (43:26):
But he said he was so impressed watching the movie
when he saw that scene where least his failure is
not an option.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
He's like, I don't think I ever said.

Speaker 6 (43:34):
That, but he was. He's like, that captured that's where
we were at so much to the point that he's
adopted it. And he says, I didn't say it, but
I'm going to name my book that because that's because
that's that's how dialed in they were on that movie.
That he saw that and was like, I didn't say that,
but I would have said that.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
I didn't say that, but I meant it or whatever.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
That's cool, that's super cool. He would have been who
I would have picked as well as a runner up.
I would have probably picked Bill Paxton. Maybe is Fred
Hayes so great? He was pretty great in that. Man,
did they make him look ill?

Speaker 3 (44:12):
They did? They really job mean.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
By the end of that, You're just like, I hope
he can get some sleep because he looks horrible. You
look like, dude, he really did. But he was such
like a goofball up there, which I thought was kind
of fun. Added some some levity color, some local color. Yeah,
so I give him the runner up.

Speaker 6 (44:36):
I love His pick was to Alsa is a big
Bill Paxston fish. When I was sitting here writing down,
She's like, you're not putting Bill Paxton on her.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Honorable honorable mention.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
He's so good.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
So we've said I think my top three because Kathleen
Quinlan would have been number one. I think she's amazing,
Ed Harris incredible. Paxton. I loved and like you said, Rob,
I just loved the the different, the different, you know,
like he gave some shade and some color and depth

(45:09):
to those characters. And I think that was really fun.
And I think in extremely serious and stressful situations comedy
can be you know, or just being able to laugh
even if it's not funny is so important, or like
grief depression, you know all these things right, Like it
is such a that is such a superpower that humans have.
I think that often goes like overlooked. So I loved

(45:32):
it they showed that. I'm gonna say Mary Kate Shellhart
his daughter, she is such a good crier in this movie.
I really loved her in this a lot.

Speaker 6 (45:45):
Wow is it Tom hanks daughter?

Speaker 3 (45:47):
Yeah, Tom hanks daughter, the eldest daughter. I guess three kids, right,
I think in this movie.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Yeah, he's got three kids.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
It's like the two girls in One Boy. But anyway,
I just thought she was really really great and this
she doesn't get to do a ton, but like the
way she is terrified is I think perfect. Like I
can't imagine it could be any better other than maybe,
you know, the kids might have just been in shock
the whole time. But I just thought she was so

(46:18):
good and she was such a good crier. She really
nailed it. And then Kevin Bacon, I thought was amazing,
one of.

Speaker 6 (46:28):
My favorite One of my favorite cuts is a Kevin
Bacon moment when he finds out that he's gonna go
and he's yeah, and he gets the phone call and
he goes.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
You can immediately cuts to Gary Sonise who's.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Like, yeah, no, that ye. And speaking of Gary Snise,
I thought he was awesome in this movie. And I
see why he or why he I don't know if
he picked this part, but I see why he liked
this part because it's so great because he plays such
a huge part in the movie and the you know,

(46:59):
the plot.

Speaker 6 (46:59):
And all, and he's another one who goes through all
the range of he's excited because he gets to go,
then he's then he's like drinks himself to sleep because
he's so depressed that he can't go. Then he's horrified
that his friends are in danger, and then he becomes
part of the prop part of the solution.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
I just love that's all.

Speaker 6 (47:14):
And that's all that's all true too. Ken Manning really
did go back and live in that simulator and help
figure out the re entry plans.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
So that's cool.

Speaker 6 (47:22):
That's how that went down.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
I love it, and it just it shows I felt
like that, and then just just the general like how
many people it took to be back home to help
go through this is like, that is the collective effort
of space travel that I think is so cool and
amazing for humanity. You know, it's just like, see what
we can do when we work, you know, together with

(47:45):
one purpose in mind.

Speaker 6 (47:46):
You know, even the Russians at that time, who were
our arch we had beat them by that point, but
there were still our arch enemies. But the Russians came
out and said, if you need because they didn't know
where they were going to get him in anything, right,
it was like, we will send a ship. If it's
close to us, we will go get them, like yeah,
the whole world. And that's what made that unique too.
The other thing I was going to mention in the

(48:07):
when I was talking about my opinion of it is
that all the astronauts talk about you know, this is
the first feature film made about the Apollo program and
it wasn't about.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
The moon landing. Yeah, and people within And.

Speaker 6 (48:22):
That's what people don't realize on the outside, people within NASA.
If you ask people in NASA what was the biggest
triumph of the Apollo program, they all say Apollo thirteen. Wow,
Because They said that demonstrated the system the best because
we were able. We had built so many failed safes
in and we built such a structure of support that

(48:43):
it was impossible, it was almost statistically impossible to get
him back. But they all they all banned it up
and got him back. So the guys involved with that
all say that, Yeah, Pollo thirteen was the was the
high point for sure.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Michig control.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Yeah, that's crazy, but.

Speaker 6 (48:57):
Yeah, the collective effort, that's that's the other thing. You're
trying to get home, and everybody wants everybody works together
to get them.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Home, especially everyone together to get them home, knowing that
probably won't work.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
You know what I mean, But they just themselves.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
You know what I mean, Like everyone has to know that.
They're all very intelligent, you know, like they they just had.

Speaker 6 (49:18):
One of the one of the books I read, they
talk about how they say it was they were until
they couldn't do anything, they were going to do anything. Yeah,
I love that, And they said, and so they would fit,
they would solve one problem, they'd be like, okay, we're
okay for now, and then they didn't know what was
going to happen. The margins were Slim and the chances

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them getting back with Slim, But until they got there,
they were going to try and they just kept doing it. Yeah,
it's really a and when you really, as I've read
more and understand the engineering of what actually happened and
what they were up against, it is astounding that they
got back, like truly, and the more I learned a

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about it, the more astounded I am that they got back.
It really is a It's a pretty wild story.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
I love it. What other runners up did we have?
I feel like I've talked for a long time.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
We mentioned all kind of the main actors.

Speaker 6 (50:13):
Ron Howard's brother, what's his name, Clinlint He plays cy Liebergott.
Who's the guy who First, he's the guy who in
mission control. It's his system that blows up.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Oh I didn't realize that.

Speaker 6 (50:26):
Okay, cool, Yeah, so he's the guy at mission control.
Whose job? But you know, all the mission control guys
have a different job. These guys calculate where they're going.
These guys execute how to do that. These guys are
looking at the lunar module. These guys are looking at
the command module electrics. These guys are worried about communications,
that's what all those dudes are doing. Clinton Howard's character
was the guy looking at the power and life support

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for the command module. So when that all blew to Smithereens,
it was his screen that it came up on. And
the real guy is kind of a celebrity in the
in the Apollo nerd circle and he does a lot
of speaking engagements because he was the guy that he
just he said it's a quadruple flate. This is impossible, right,
and they're all going, well, what do we do? And
it's his job and he's like, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
We can't even come back from this kind of talk about.

Speaker 6 (51:15):
The hot seat. He was in that spot. But yeah,
Clinton Howard did a good job of that on that
character to that of really of figuring that out. And
you can see the you know, the stress in his
face as he's dealing with it too.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Yeah, well sweating.

Speaker 5 (51:29):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
The kid Tom Hanks's son, really his name is Minko Hughes,
but did you recognize him?

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Bukes Big time Kindergarten cop Baby Kindergarten.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Copht a kid that says boys have a penis, girls
have a vagina In Kindergarten Cop so good, and I
was like, but he was, he was pretty sweet. Who
was in that movie? I don't even know that was him?
Was that his son? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (52:00):
Gym level military school?

Speaker 3 (52:02):
No, sorry, four kids, that's right.

Speaker 6 (52:06):
The kid that he's showing like on the bed, that's
his real son. See, I didn't even know.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
No, no, no, no, no, no no no. I mean he's
just an actor his name, but he was always just
saying I see what you said. He was just all
That actor was also in Kindergarten Cop and I had
to look it up. I was like, it looks like
an older version of that kid. And that kid always
cracked me up. I kindergarten.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
I was like, I know this kid. I did the
same thing.

Speaker 6 (52:32):
I think he did, like a cough drop commercial in
the in the nineties.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Sure, yeah, probably.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Yeah. There were so many people in that command uh
command room, that control room. Yes that I recognized, you.

Speaker 6 (52:46):
Know, yeah, later on that We're in a lot of
things later.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
On, so many people and uh Rant Howard was the reverend.
That's his his.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
Dad, And yeah, I didn't realize that was his dad.
I've seen him in a few things. I think it's
his mom. Jim Lovell's mom is Ron Howard's mom too.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
That's cool that they did that well. And they had
Rob Ryner's daughter as Bill Paxton's wife, Tracy Ryner.

Speaker 5 (53:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah right.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
She was good too.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
I liked her, Yeah, she was really good.

Speaker 6 (53:16):
I like Ron Howard movies. I like Ron Howard movies.
I like Ron Howard. Yeah, just same in general. But
I do like that it's always a family affair for him. Yeah,
that is always, and it's not just I mean, they're
bit parts, but they're like highly visible bit parts. He's
not afraid to flaunt that nepotism.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
Yeah, and that's good.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
They could act, they can act a Clint Howard's always
funny and everything he puts them in, you know. But yeah,
nobody else. I really have to mention just that I
recognized a lot of people and they were all very good.
Sammy's Well, then why don't we move to our favorite
scene and let's choose the Dingus.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
The Dingas sonas is quite simple, really Ingus Dingus. I
could talk about my Dingas all night long. Car, Pat,
that's your favorite scene.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
I'm excited to hear what your favorite scene is.

Speaker 6 (54:04):
My favorite scene is it's almost a toss up, but
it it's a it's almost a toss up between the
launch scene, yes, and the re entry splashdown scene, but
the tension build of the re entry splashdown scene and
the payoff, like when it shows the whole room cheering. Ye,

(54:26):
And like you guys said, I've seen this movie thousand times.
I know exactly what's going to happen, but it's still
they do it in such a way it's still you're
just like, yeah, but I yeah that I think the
re entry and splashdown and everybody cheering in them coming home.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Is that accurate? That? Yes, that there been three minutes,
but they did it more like four minutes.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Yeah, So what happened was, Yeah, that was so cool.

Speaker 6 (54:52):
You know, they're able to calculate this stuff to the second.
And what they didn't realize was that on the command
module there was a little radiator on the outside to
cool their gear, and this radiator put out a little
bit of water and it was just enough water coming
out of it to change their trajectory enough that they
came in like a minute and almost a minute and
a half or two minutes later than they had calculated.

(55:13):
So when the clock gets to zero and he says
that's zero, and they don't hear anything that really happened,
And then another minute went by, and then another almost
another minute went by, and then they so yeah that
that's the other part why I love that scene is
like they were they all were.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Horrified.

Speaker 6 (55:32):
Yeah, and they say all the accounts say it was
pin drop silence in mission control except for the guy
asking if they could if he could hear them, and
that which made them making it an't even that much
bigger than they But yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
No, that was that.

Speaker 6 (55:46):
That was not a that was not theatrical license. That
was really how that happened.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
Also, dude, like, how crazy that they can figure out, Oh,
the reason we were a minute and a half off
is because of this register, which was a little bit
of water, which you know, like that's insane. That's insane too.
All of it's just crazy the stuff that.

Speaker 6 (56:06):
Also, the computer that the computer that went to the moon,
the computer on board right landed them on the moon,
was I think I just figured this out. Thirty seven No, yeah,
thirty seven k. The whole computer was thirty seven K wow,
which is just bigger than an email, probably smaller than
the email. You guys sent me the outline of the

(56:26):
podcast and they figure all that out. They figure that
with that and slide rules.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Crazy, it's crazyane crazy.

Speaker 6 (56:38):
Yeah, that's my favorite. The splashdown is my favorite for sure.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
That is a great scene. I've had that up there.
I was probably going more to the rocket launch scene
just because all of it kind of came together with
the visuals, the amazing score underneath it.

Speaker 6 (56:55):
The score on launches, Oh pretty hid me goosebumps, just yeah,
you know, the actors looking pretty freaked.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Out, well they're getting buckled in and then actually you know,
going for it. But I just yeah, that whole scene
you're just kind of holding your breath. And also just
like it's just so beautifully shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, epic.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
I love that. Those two were my ones. I was
trying to decide between, so it might be a dual
Dingus situation. Uh, totally agree that. Like the triumph emotionally
at the end is my maybe my favorite part of
the movie just in general. But that launch and again
that shot we get like through the booster, the halo

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of the earth and all that is just so.

Speaker 6 (57:45):
Cool, which which some more nerdy for you. They that's
based off of a real shot where that you're talking
about when the ring comes off, yeah, and then spins
away to the They the first Saturn five they launched ever,
didn't have people on it, and they it was full
of cameras because they didn't know if it was going
to work totally, and it was the first time they

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tried instead of trying all the parts separate, it was
a big step. They decided, let's just throw it together
and see if it works. And the first one worked
perfectly was apoll Of four and that shot and there
was cameras and instrumentations so in case anything went wrong.
But there's a that's almost a second for section reproduction
of the shot from Apollo four. Wow.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
So if you look up apoll Of if you look
at that cool search.

Speaker 6 (58:29):
That and look up Apollo four, you'll see the actual
shot that they took it from, which is identical to that.
And keep in mind, at that time, and that would
have been sixty six when that flu, nobody had seen that,
nobody had been to space, and so this you know,
this cameras on this this spaceship and then the camera
was in this little pod that re entered and they

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went and scooped it out of the ocean and they
put the film on the projector and then that's what
they saw. No one had ever seen anything like that,
but yeah, that's a real shot.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
A couple of runners up that I had, uh where
they're building the CO two filter. I think that such
a fun scene, just showing you know, the crazy stuff
they have to do, and like how great these people
are at their jobs and stuff. I just think that's
what they want.

Speaker 6 (59:20):
They want a problem like that to solve, right, can
say something.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
To solve because you know they loved it too, right,
They were like, yeah, you know it's a puzzle. Great.

Speaker 6 (59:28):
You know, we were just watching upstairs because the new book,
the new Hunger Games book came out, the oh the
Hamage book. Alyssa just finished it. I haven't ready yet,
but she was like, I want to watch Hunger Games again.
So that's what she's doing right now.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Nice.

Speaker 6 (59:42):
And she was like, they did a really good job
in this movie of you know, of taking the narration
and putting it in the dialogue. And I was saying,
I'm going to mention this on the show about Paul thirteen,
Like there's a perfect example. They build that filter and
they're showing them, and they're doing all the technical stuff,
like we got to make the thing, and it's going
to take scrub the co two because there's not enough

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lithium hydroxide and it doesn't fit in the blah blah
blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
And then they did.

Speaker 6 (01:00:07):
This all throughout the movie. Like a little throwaway line,
you just hear a guy go, we got a middle filter,
which is the explanation for everybody who doesn't know what
the hell is going on. And if you watch that
movie again, there'll be whole strings of jargon.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
And then a guy like, wow, got to build a filter.

Speaker 6 (01:00:24):
Like when they talk about the power constraint and they're like, man,
you can't run a coffee machine on that. That's to
give people context all little power they have, they can't
run a coffee machine. And they did a really good
job of And I think that's why everyone that was
so universally like, because you didn't have to be.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Unnerd to understand.

Speaker 6 (01:00:42):
What they did, but in a very subtle, like not
in your face way, in a very clever way.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
I did like that, and the only other one I
had was the manual burn sequence. Coincidentally, the title of
my sex tape was all so I swear I liked that.
I liked that scene before I thought of the joke,
but I definitely put it.

Speaker 6 (01:01:10):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Does Mississippi dry rub fit into that joke somewhere so.

Speaker 9 (01:01:18):
I forgot, Yeah, manual burns, But that scene is just
super duper intense, and.

Speaker 6 (01:01:33):
Like, I think that that's arguably arguably the most intense
like for pounds seeing that scene.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Also, like the exposition that you said, would they hold
the flat piece of paper on the news story and
they're like they got what they hit? I was like,
thank you, that's awful, Okay, you know or whatever, like
that's crazy. But I just love that scene too. That's good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Yeah, Another really intense scene is just when he stirs
the tanks and then yes, everything's going haywire, and yeah,
that was so intense.

Speaker 6 (01:02:07):
When I have a hard time in the past, if
I've had a hard time sleeping. The Apollo flight control
loop from mission control, so they're on headsets talking to
each other in mission control.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
That was all taped and.

Speaker 6 (01:02:20):
You can go online now and listen to like you
can listen to the Clint. You can listen to the
Clint Howard character talking to his guys in the back
room that are like, we don't know what's going on,
and we got to free this out. And the gene
kranz Ed Harris character his loop and it has the
whole first three hours from the time it happens for
the next three hours, and it's fascinating because you listen
to how much they pulled. That's the other thing, like

(01:02:41):
as that explosion happened, the back and forth they're having
trying to figure out is mostly just directly pulled from
the transcripts of what they were saying. But they talk
about how you can tell in the spacecraft they were
a few steps ahead of the ground because they could
they felt it, they could feel how big it was.
And they said they were already moving into the lunar

(01:03:03):
module while the ground was still trying to figure the
problem out. But yeah, that they do good job of
that scene too, really getting the confusion, the chaos of
that whole thing. Can you imagine being I think there
were three quarters to the moon and then hearing a
massive explosion and then looking at your gauges in the
all the oxygens is zero. Then you look out the

(01:03:24):
window and there's just oxygen blown away.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
No, I mean, yeah, life is weird, like realizing I
would never be that brave.

Speaker 6 (01:03:35):
Growing up, you know what I mean, Like I've never
gotten myself into that situation.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
I would never be even close to that, And not
that anyone would want to put me there, you know,
but also I just couldn't.

Speaker 5 (01:03:46):
That's crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:03:47):
And part of that too, that with they talk about
that failure in the tank, which you know, if we
had an hour, I.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Could tell you exactly what happened.

Speaker 6 (01:03:56):
But that failure in the tank was something that had
occurred a year or two before the actual incident that
caused ultimately the demise of it, and it was kind
of arbitrary when it was going to happen. It couldn't
have happened in a better time, and any a better
time in the mission if they had gotten to the
point where they'd landed, and when they land you know,

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the lunar mogic goes down and the command module stays
right around. If it would have happened, then they all
would have died because they because the lunar mogic would
have been on the planet. If they would have been
on their way back and they had gotten rid of
the lunar module because after they landed that order to
go right, they ditch it. Yeah, it couldn't have happened.
It could have. They talk about it. There was the
margin of time they had before that would have not

(01:04:39):
been survivable was so slim. It could not have happened
at a better moment. Wow, And it all lined up
that way.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
It was a good thing he shared the tanks. Yeah,
it is. Oh, it's crazy at that time.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
Also, I love that scene where he's like any of
us could have done, you know, like where he's clearly
carrying that still you know a little.

Speaker 6 (01:04:58):
Bit well, and bill Packs's character like, what a great shame. Yeah,
I don't know what it said.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
That's the way.

Speaker 6 (01:05:05):
I'm like, oh, it didn't really help. Yeah, but then
didn't have her.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Point of Yeah, but I love.

Speaker 6 (01:05:18):
Is there any scenes?

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Yeah? The only other scene I put down was I
loved all of the U I guess missus Lovell scenes,
but his mom.

Speaker 6 (01:05:31):
They're so good.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
I love that.

Speaker 6 (01:05:33):
It's like when Neil Armstrong and.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
Buzzled are you Boys program? Exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
He was funny, but then also she was just so
confident that he was going to be coming back and
just has a great line that I love that one.
But anytime she came on on camera, she kind of
crushed it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Yeah, she was so great.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Yeah yeah, And I.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Love that when they go sit with her, like when
they're returning. That's so great.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
But if we're picking some ding guy, I think I
think we should do a dual ding guy and do
the rocket launch scene and the splashdown the re entry.

Speaker 6 (01:06:15):
The re entry they're both as they both pack as
much of a punch, but in totally different They're like book.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
They're like bookend totally the.

Speaker 6 (01:06:22):
Biggest epic scenes that book and the whole thing, as
they should be because those are the two biggest you know, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
I love that. I feel comfortable with that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Good. Well, then why don't we talk about some of
the quotes in this and let's show me the money,
show me the money, show me.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
Some quotes.

Speaker 6 (01:06:46):
Well, I mean, the obvious choice is not the one
I picked. The choice I picked was failure is not
an option.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
That's a great one.

Speaker 6 (01:06:54):
Because of what because of what I was saying before,
and because that was kind of the that was really
the mindset they were in. It is not that is
not an option. I love that, and then obviously my Yeah,
the backup, the backup to that would be obviously, Houston,
we have a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Of course became part of the lexicon.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Yeah, you know, the.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Actual not quite the red line, right.

Speaker 6 (01:07:22):
Houston, we've had a problem.

Speaker 5 (01:07:24):
Yeah, because the.

Speaker 6 (01:07:25):
First guy said we have a problem, they went what
and he said, we've.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Had a problem. That's pretty crazy, but that's acceptable.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
I like that, So that'll be the name of this
episode for sure. Yeah, there were a lot of great ones.
I love when he says, gentlemen, it's been a privileged
flying with you, so great. I bet somebody had a
boohoo or maybe a tear come down maybe or maybe

(01:07:55):
when he just says and he's kind of still just
in shock, just like we just lost the moon.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Just lost the moon.

Speaker 6 (01:08:01):
Yeah, that's that one's pretty Yeah, that like immediate.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
Realization is pretty wild. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:08:08):
Yeah, that's about as emotional as he gets on the
way back.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Totally realizes that.

Speaker 6 (01:08:14):
And the thing people don't realize about Jim Lovell he
was he read a book about Goddard, who was the
father of rocketry. In this well totally globally, but he
was from the United States. He checked out a book
from the school library when he's in like sixth grade
and made it his mission right then to someday walk
on the moon. So like that was his sixth grade
childhood ambition. He was he had gone on Apollo eight

(01:08:36):
circled the moon for the first time.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Which is you could do a whole another thing on.

Speaker 6 (01:08:39):
That, right, But he was going to do it, and
then he got there and it broke and he couldn't go.
So it's like for him, I mean for him as
an astronaut, that's disappointing, but for jim Lovell as a
human being, that was incredibly devastating and he knew he
wasn't going to go back. Yeah, So yeah, that's a
good one. That's a good pick.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
That's wild.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
I also so loved them. It says Blanche level, are
you scared, Well, don't you worry, honey. If they could
get a washing machine to fly, my Jimmy could land it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
I love that line.

Speaker 6 (01:09:12):
So the good one is uh is uh when the
national management, seeing the president, wants odds right and they said,
I don't know, he's three to one, four to one,
I don't know, And gene Krantz turns around, pissed off
and says gentlemen, Yeah, I think this is going to
be our finest hour, and then kind of just stares
him down, like yeah, but that was the I mean,

(01:09:35):
that was that was how they got home. Was that
was the attitude like until we have a reason to
believe we're not, we're coming home, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
And it just all worked.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Yeah, And to me, honestly, it's it's a lot of
it's sort of akin to the same idea of like
why if you can help it. I understand we can't always,
but if you can help it, why worry about a
potential bad outcome and go through it twice? Like, yeah,
it might happen, but you'll deal with it at that point,
you know, and like there's nothing we can do about it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
An Now.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
I just love that attitude of like I until I improven,
otherwise I will assume this is our finest hour and
like almost like will it into existence. I love that.
I think that's so guys.

Speaker 6 (01:10:15):
The guys on the ship talk about how they don't
talk about this in the movie, Well, they talk a
little bit about how, you know, at the end they
have to power this thing back up. It was never
designed to be shut off, right, and they had to
shut it all off on the way out to the moon,
and then it just sat off for days and then
they'd turn it back on, which was just not they
were not Nobody knew how to do that. But they

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didn't have much power because the thing was broken and
all they had were batteries, and they had to get
in one of the things they were trying to bargain
for to heat the parachutes, to heat the pyros that
shoot the parachutes out, and they didn't have enough power.
In real life, they didn't have enough power to do that,
and so they were like, were they tested it, you know,
while they were on their way back the people at
the factories that built it. That's another good quote where

(01:10:58):
he says, no, I don't want to know what these
things are capable. I don't want to know what these
things were designed to do. I want to know what
they're capable of doing. Which was so all the guys
in the factor all those factories that built every part
of that ship remained open twenty four to seven from
the time they heard about it until the time they
landed and asked could call the people with the parachutes
and say, we're not going to be able to warm
these things up?

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Are they going to work?

Speaker 6 (01:11:18):
And they say, we'll test it, And they went somewhere and
got them cold and tested it and they thought it
was going to work. But crazy, they didn't know until
the parachutes came out if the parachutes were going to
come out. But Jim Lovell talks about in his book.
He's like, I couldn't. There was nothing we could do
about it, right, So there was no sense spending even
an ounce of worry on it because there's nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
We can do, right yep, I'm just doing control. You know.

Speaker 6 (01:11:41):
There's good lessons in life for everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Yeah, yeah, that's great. We could all use that advice.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
I did for sure, and I didn't write it down,
so forget me. I don't remember the exact but when
he's like you're thinking of step four hundred and sixty
two and we're on forty two or you know whatever
it is right where, it's like, we got it, solve
this problem right out. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Yeah. That was when Swigert was saying that they were
coming in too steep.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like we're coming in. You know, it's
like you're not wrong, but also.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
You know we're not there.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
We're not worried about that, right, that's great. Rap, did
you have a few more? You go for it, You
go for it. I loved when he's like, they're going
to to like release the the p basically like to
have their Watsons and the constellation, the constellation you ride.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
I realized that because I say, you ran all the
time from this I got it from this movie. I
love that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
Right before that, after he's been puking, he's like, Hey,
I'm hungry. I could eat the ass out of dead rhinoceros.

Speaker 6 (01:12:45):
I was going to bring that up when you're talking
about Bill Paxson before the levity.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
He brought it.

Speaker 6 (01:12:49):
That's so funny, and they all kind of look at
him like okay, cool, okay, fine.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
I guess I'm not hungry anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:12:58):
Also, when they talk about and uh, Fred Hayes is
so sick and they're talking about I think I shared
because jack was actually like a woman, a bachelor astronaut. Yeah,
and so him joking about I think I got the class.
I was using old Jackson. You're into I think I
got the clap and he says, oh, that'll be another

(01:13:20):
first for our fine American space program.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
That's so good.

Speaker 6 (01:13:26):
He really also did not file his taxes.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
That's ane that Clinton don't get joke.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
I think that's in the trivia. He had had some
actual tax problems and he like ad lipped that line.
I guess they like they'll come after. I guess Clint
Howard actually had some some tax stuff. Yeah, that's pretty wild. Uh.
I just love when they're talking about the c O
two filter and they're like the square peg groundhole or whatever,

(01:13:58):
and Ed Harrison like, why I suggest you, gentlemen, find
a way to put a square bag in a round
hole rapidly rapidly again, just like, okay, sir, right now.
I just love that.

Speaker 6 (01:14:10):
One of the Another one that kind of sneaks by
is after they bring the filter into mission, controller said,
they tell him they got to build that, and they
start reading it off, and then in the background this
guy kind of slaps him on the back and said, boy,
you are a steely eyed miss. That term that is
the highest form of compliment. You can give it a controller.

(01:14:32):
One of the Michigan Control guys. If if and it's
not dealt out, it's not handed out. The guy who
played the guy who was helping maddingly. John Aaron, the
guy who's helping with the power. Yeah, yeah, he's that's
that's a real guy. And and everybody agrees in the
Missigan control lore that of all time, the most capable
guy in mission control ever was John Aaron. That's crazy,

(01:14:54):
and he was. He was the first one that they
and it was because of Apollo twelve, which that's a
whole other story. I get by lightning on during launch
Apollo twelve. Guy by lightning and he knew how to
fix it right now, and everybody's like, how did you
know that? And after that they said you are a
steely eyed missileman. So that that was a little nod
to that, to that culture too, because yeah, that the

(01:15:14):
steely eyed missileman is that's not a compliment you hand out. Yeah,
you have to earn that compliment and you remember the
rest of your life. So I was I thought that
was cool that they I wrote that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
I wrote that quote down too, because and this will
come up in the future, and I swear I did
this before. But they also say that in the Martian
as well, and I didn't realize that it was like
a NASA thing.

Speaker 6 (01:15:35):
Yeah, that's a deep cut NASA.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
Which I thought was really cool. That's fun and the
Martians may or may not be coming up for us.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
It's a yellow might be.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
But yeah, I love that. I loved too when Tom
Hanks is like, we're not going to go bounce it
off the walls for ten minutes and then just stand
up back here with the same problems figuring out how
to stay alive, Aquarius, this is Houston. Are we on Fox?

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
And you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
Like when he's and then he's like, work.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
I love that too.

Speaker 6 (01:16:09):
So that's a that's a real gym level quote. I
don't know if you said it on the mission, but
he said it in interview subsequent about how he said, well,
you know, we could just bounce off the wall for
ten minutes and we back where we started. The Vox
thing really happened where they get on Vox and yeah,
and they were swearing and somebody's like, oh, you're.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
On Vox, now, okay, when you want it on you're
on Vox.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
We can hear everything you're saying. No, that that really
was so great.

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
I also love when he's like, so let's look at
this from a standpoint of status. What do we have
on the spaceship. That's good. I'll have to get back
to you, Gene.

Speaker 6 (01:16:47):
That is that is line for beatim verbatim rip from
the transcript mission, because he keeps asking him and asking
him and asking him, and finally he just goes, Okay, SI,
let's look at this thing from status. What do we
got on the space That's good? And in real life
he's like, oh, well I give you a sea Yeah,
hang on, Yeah, that's I.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
Think the attention.

Speaker 6 (01:17:11):
One of the things I love, especially now that I've
become such a nerd about it, is Yeah, the attention
to that's where they talk about how they captured the culture,
like the Steeling Musselman. They really really went in with
a fine tooth device to make sure they got every
little cultural nuance of that era. And I think that's

(01:17:31):
why I think that's why I translated, and I think
that's why people in the Apollo Moon Race enthusiast community
love it so much, because it really is like you
can show someone that and it can be equal parts
entertainment and like and this is also pretty much exactly
how it went down.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
That's pretty cool. Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
Also, one I don't remember if I think there's trivia
that this was actually said too, But it's kind of
a when they're doing their hitting, like the gravitational pull
around the moon and headed back and they sort of
get distracted, but like that's where we're going to land, like,
which is such a cool scene. And then he just like, gentlemen,
what are your intentions? I'd like to go home? Like

(01:18:13):
I love that sort of like recentering of like I understand,
but also that's not the mission anymore, you know, Like
I thought that was so cool.

Speaker 6 (01:18:23):
Yeah, they they got the Jim Level character Tom Hanks
really good. Yeah, I just nailed It's because that's that again.
You see. I think a little bit of his pain
of not being able to go down. Yeah, he's not
even by the windows. He's on the in that shot.
He's like folds his arms. He's on the other side, like, yeah,
I've already seen it. And uh, he just died Jim

(01:18:47):
Level just a couple like a month ago.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
Oh really just passed man. Yeah, I must be pretty
old though, right, I mean he.

Speaker 6 (01:18:55):
Was in his mid nineties for him, that's a good run.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
And yeah, I like I liked when he's kind of
doing the tour and a lady's like how do you
go to the bathroom in space? He says, tell you
it's a very complicated procedure that involves cranking down the
window and looking for a gas station.

Speaker 5 (01:19:13):
It's great.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
I did love that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
That's good.

Speaker 6 (01:19:17):
I'm trying to think. Alyssa made fun of me because
she said, are you going to watch the movie before
you do this?

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
It's like, I'm not sure. I'm not. I don't need
to know that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
You didn't rewatch it all?

Speaker 6 (01:19:28):
No, right, I mean I just I just watched it
like two months, right, Okay, Yeah, that's like I've always
recently rewatched it basically going to bed, you know, you know,
it is like we go to sleep with the TV on,
and I'm just like, if I'm not, if I'm already
on my way out, I'll just put that one.

Speaker 5 (01:19:44):
Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 6 (01:19:45):
I also like that in the beginning of the movie
they taught when they're landing on the moon and they're
at the level's house, they're having that party.

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:19:53):
The whole thing about the guy who's like, all I
just want to thank you all for coming to my
rehearsal for Apollo twelve. That guy was playing pet Conrad,
who was that that was also a faithful reproduction of
that guy's character. He was just over the top. But
they said, who do you want to watch? And everybody's like, Walter, Walter,
you got to put on Walter. Walter Cronkite was also
unabashedly a space enthusiast while he was reporting. And so

(01:20:16):
if you go back and watch, you know, throughout the
years of as they progress getting to the moon, the
shot of him when they land on the moon, and
it shows Kronkite and takes his glasses like that really,
and he said, and he said, there were only one
other time, other than Kennedy's assassination that he was speechless
on the air.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
But and if you go back that and.

Speaker 6 (01:20:37):
Watch that actual clip of them landing, it cuts to
Kronkit who's supposed to say something, and he can't. I
just can't say anything. So I love that they tipped
the cap to to Walter too.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
That's wonderful.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
I think I saw on the trivia that they actually
had him say some stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:20:55):
At the end. I think at the end any of
the narrations, the voice over narration stuff, a lot of
that is Walter.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
Crost That's cool, yeah, yeah, and sort of speaking to that.
I just it's early in the movie, but I'm pretty
sure it's Tom Hanks who says it. But he's like,
we now live on a planet where a man walked
on the Moon. It's not a miracle. We just decided
to just decided, like, oh man, that's wild.

Speaker 6 (01:21:18):
Also when he says, what does he say, Christopher Columbus,
who's the other one? Oh yeah, Charles Christopher Columbus, Charles
Limberg and Neil arms.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Starts laughing, My buddy, Neil, that's hilarious.

Speaker 6 (01:21:34):
Who really, they couldn't have picked, from a public affairs
standpoint a worse person to go to the Moon first
than Neil Armstrong. Yeah, just reticent, dry, not a no charisma,
what's but he was also the guy that had the
right stuff, as it were.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
That might come up later.

Speaker 3 (01:21:52):
Yeah, but it wasn't a quote.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
But I always loved the the thumb bit.

Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
Oh yeah, that is so when he does that from
the moon to from looking at the Earth, that's amazing
that bit.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
Yeah, yeah, same.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
Anyway, that was all the lions I had.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
I think, Yeah, yeah, let's just keep going, let's go
to bugs boohoo. Moments away, I picked six. I think
it could be upwards of ten. But these were the
six moments that I I thought, just that liftoff sequence

(01:22:37):
and Tracy Ryner crying.

Speaker 5 (01:22:39):
Absolutely one, we just lost the moon. Uh yeah, let
me see.

Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
I'm sure that's a yes, but I want to mark
them off to make sure I'm not missing Yes, yes, correct.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
Correct, When his son asks is it the door? Oh
the door? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
That killed me.

Speaker 6 (01:23:01):
That kills on my list too.

Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
If they could make a washing machine to fly, my
Jimmy could land it. Gentlemen, it's been a privileged flying
with you. Yeah, absolutely, yes, of course that was the
one I was most confident.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
I wrote basically the entire ending Okay, yeah, but.

Speaker 6 (01:23:27):
On mine, I have shoots, recovery, cheering, which is that?

Speaker 7 (01:23:33):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
Yeah? And then just the hello Houston, this is the odyssey.
It's good to see you again.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Then coming back.

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
So those were the six that I Do you think
there were any more? Boo's pat uh.

Speaker 6 (01:23:46):
No, I was going to say. I was like, there's
no way he'll say was it the door? Was it?

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
Oh my god?

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
For sure? When they get home, absolutely for sure?

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
Was it? For sure?

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
Was it the door?

Speaker 6 (01:23:58):
And there's a scene I think during the manual burn,
which you were talking about, was one of your favorite
scenes as that's happening. It shows Marilyn in the bedroom.
She takes a moment and like sits on the bed
by herself after it's done and just cries to herself.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
I had that. I lovezz Yeah. Absolutely, that got me
for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
All right, So that's seven.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
There are a couple more one two. I think four
more is what it is. So not only was it
the door, but the first time the kid brings it
up when he's like, did you know the astronauts that
were on fire? You know, I'm like sure, explains it
and then he's.

Speaker 5 (01:24:37):
Like, can it happen again?

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
You know, Like the kid was so good at the
acting there because he like, did they fix it? Yeah?
You know, like almost scared to even ask because he
doesn't really want the end, you know, I don't know.
I just love that. I thought that was so great.

Speaker 6 (01:24:51):
Speaking of the fire the book, the way the movie
starts with, yeah, that's the voiceover. That's the Cronkite voiceover.
The movie starts with him talking about the fire. It
was only four years ago after a fire in the
launch pan, we find ourselves.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
The book starts with the fire.

Speaker 6 (01:25:06):
Wow, So that was their way to tie on the
book in because the book starts the first chapter is
just a detailed explanation of the fire and how they
wouldn't have gone to the moon had the fire not
happened because the program was getting two out of control.
They weren't paying enough attention. The fire made everybody stop
and say, we got to get our together.

Speaker 3 (01:25:24):
Button it up a little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:25:25):
But yeah, so the movie starting talking about the fire.
That's that's how the schooks started too.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
So uh, Neil, Neil, just stepping on the moon, And
all I wrote was I just can't help it. That
always get me, Like again, just humanity doing that, I
think is pretty wild and incredible.

Speaker 6 (01:25:44):
In nineteen sixty nine. Yeah, humanity doing that in nineteen
sixty nine.

Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
And again that timeline of like when we flew to
that point, like, it's ridiculous, ridiculous. So I wrote that
for sure, when Marilyn makes it down to the launch
after she has said I'm not gonna be there, like,
that got me for sure. I just thought it was lovely.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
You can't live without me without me?

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
Yeah, that's so cute.

Speaker 6 (01:26:12):
Yeah, she said I heard it was going to be
a hell of a show. And he said, who told you?

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
Then? Blessome guy? I know, guy, I know. See that's
that love story.

Speaker 6 (01:26:19):
There's a there's a couple more scenes where he's looking
down at the earth. I think it's when he's doing
the thumbta the Earth and she's in the yard looking
up into space like they really they'd spend a lot
of time on those two his relationship, which I think
is great.

Speaker 3 (01:26:32):
Well, and that's my last one is when all the
like all the press is coming to their house and
she's like and she says, like, these people don't put
a single piece of equipment on my lawn. If they
have a problem with it, they can take it up
with my husband. He'll be home Friday, you know. Like
that again like almost echoing right, the like attitude we

(01:26:53):
have with Ed Harris in the entire program of just
like no until this happens, I'm believing, you know what
I mean, Like I'm not even thinking about the other
option right now.

Speaker 8 (01:27:04):
But that got me.

Speaker 5 (01:27:05):
I loved it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
So what is that?

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
It was eleven eleven? Pretty modern?

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
It's eleven. I knew I didn't pick him enough, But
did you cry at all?

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
Oh? Yeah, I definitely the.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
Kids stuff really got me. That tends to get me
now a lot understood.

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
I was just more just like SUPERD.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
Yeah, and like I was stressed out. I was really
stressed out in this watch. I was, especially after seeing
it so many times. I was shocked.

Speaker 6 (01:27:36):
I get I get teared up on the launch scene
just because it's so much. It's just so big, real,
it's so much. Have you seen a launch pat Have
you ever been down?

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
Oh god, no, I've been.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
No. I would love to do that. I'm not even
like the craziest, but I bet that's incredible to see,
you know.

Speaker 6 (01:27:54):
And we're past the era I think of the you know,
the Saturn five a rock at that big Sure. Sure
they said you don't hear right as much as you
know when you're at the fireworks and there's those fireworks
that are just little white flashes, but they pound you
in the chest that they say you don't hear it.
It's just that I feel it for five minutes, just
constantly pounding your chest. Yeah, they say, it's really it

(01:28:15):
can only you can only understand it if you've seen it,
and no I've not.

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
It's great.

Speaker 6 (01:28:19):
I've been to one my aunt get this side sidebar.
My aunt Dinah has a charm bracelet. She's had for
years and years and I was since a little kid.
I would always look at it. And she moved and
I saw the little box. I said, oh God, I say,
your charm bracelet and she said yeah, And I hadn't
looked at it years and years, and I pulled it
out and I looked and there was a pendant.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
Of the Apollo fourteen missions. And I said, this is
like ten years.

Speaker 6 (01:28:45):
Fifteen years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
I said, why do you have this?

Speaker 6 (01:28:48):
And she's like, oh, Grandpa and I were there. We
saw it lunch.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
I said, you watched Apollo fourteen lunch.

Speaker 3 (01:28:54):
We've somehow never discussed this and she's like she's like yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:29:00):
I was like what why. She's like, I can't remember why.
They're in Florida, but they're like yeah, so dad. My
grandpa was like, anybody want to come with me? And no,
nobody else wanted to go, So him and Dinah drove over. Wow, Canaveral.
I was like, you saw a Saturn five launch with
your own eyes. She was like, yeah, do you, Dinah?

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
I feel like you didn't appreciate it as much as
you should have why this is and I'm upset.

Speaker 5 (01:29:27):
That's really great.

Speaker 3 (01:29:28):
Uh yeah, okay, well there's the chemical imbalanced part of this.
Let's move on to some movie Cherivia. Now let's see
we've said a few so forgive me if I say.
Bill Paxxon, Tom Hanks, and Kevin Bacon were all very
proud of the fact that they weren't sick on the
Vombit comment and that was the plane that simulated the

(01:29:49):
zero gravity, which we kind of touched on earlier. The
cameraman apparently were not so lucky, so people were getting sick.

Speaker 6 (01:29:56):
They did like six hundred dives or you would have
to have it something here some crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
Yeah, it's just it's not and to like look so
calm and happy. Also in the yeah, yeah it's crazy.
Let's see. In the commentary track, Maryland Level comments that
Tom Hanks exactly portrays Jim's mannerisms and style of movement,
so she's like, yeah, he nailed it too, which is

(01:30:23):
pretty cool. Would in some of the scenes where the
Earth can be seen from the windows of Apollo thirteen,
it is one of the photos taken by Jim and
Bill on the Apollo eight mission, so some of their
actual photos are in there.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Surety cool. Cool.

Speaker 3 (01:30:41):
Let's see. Jim wore his old Navy captain's uniform in
the scene where he greets the astronauts aboard.

Speaker 6 (01:30:51):
The USSI, tim shaking his hand.

Speaker 3 (01:30:54):
When Ron Howard asked him if he'd like to be
in the film as the ship's admiral. He agreed, but
also pointed out I retired as a captain, and a
captain I will be, which I think is so cool.
And also him, you know, based on what we've learned.
Uh we said the thing about Jack not actually being
you know, like this rookie, so that's a good call

(01:31:16):
for sure, which I love. Marilyn really did lose her
ring down the drain, but she eventually found it, so
that's that's crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:31:26):
YEAHULTI, you know, whatever it was, it's real.

Speaker 3 (01:31:32):
Let's see. When the real Gym saw the film, he
found the c g I work so convincing that he
firmly believed that the filmmakers had uncovered some like unseen
NASA footage that he'd never seen, which is talk about
the best compliment you could get as a filmmaker. I
bet you know, like we nailed it. That's cool. They

(01:31:57):
talk about the plutonium that was in them, and they
you know, they ditched that and all that stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:32:04):
Usually they'd leave that on the ocean. But it's in
the ocean somewhere in the India.

Speaker 3 (01:32:08):
Yeah, exactly, and apparently it's it's still just down there
and they, as far as I know, it's not leaking,
which I think is pretty wild and crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:32:15):
Hopefully that remains. Yeah, there was a big brewhaha when
they were coming in from the Nuclear Regulatory Commission that
were like, you have a nuclear power source on there
that wasn't supposed to come back, and they were coming
back and they were like calling out Michigan ConTroll like,
what do you want us to do? Okay, we can't
do anything like it's coming in.

Speaker 3 (01:32:34):
I'm sorry, sorry, it's okay. That's amazing. When Fred confesses
that his wife's pregnancy was an accident, Jim responds, well,
that has a tendency to happen in real life. Maryland
accidentally felt pregnant during the Gemini program, and apparently she
hid it from her husband for four months because she

(01:32:55):
was afraid it would jeopardize his spot in the gemin
and I rotation, which I think is atty. While uh, yeah,
we said the thing. Ron Howard had Walter Cronkite recording
you audio reports to add to the movie, which is
so cool. According to astronaut Tom Jones, who was there

(01:33:17):
for part of the shooting, when it was pointed out
to Ron Howard that the argument between Hayes and Swiggert
or Swigert were never happened, and they would never It
wouldn't ever happen between astronauts. Basically, Howard replied, in trying
to show a real tense moment in a film, we
can only show a sweaty forehead so many times before
it least and I get Apparently Tom Joe's just laughed

(01:33:39):
and was like, all right, that's fair, you know, Okay, sure,
I buy that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
There were a lot of sweaty forethads, especially on Bill Pax.

Speaker 3 (01:33:50):
Just the clammy sweaty forehead on him too. Hell uh
so on the on the vomit comment. Uh they did.
They flew six hundred and twelve parabolic arcs. Each arc
produced twenty seconds of weightlessness. All of these flights were
completed in thirteen days.

Speaker 6 (01:34:11):
Ah god.

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
And they decommissioned that plane in nineteen ninety five, after
twenty two years of service, so that in those twenty
twenty to twenty five second first the plane, they got
fifty four minutes total of footage in the weightless environment,
which is that's insane.

Speaker 6 (01:34:31):
Yeah, and how do you add there's like, I don't
get it. I suppose you got to get used to it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:34:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:34:38):
Ron Howard talks about he said, you know, we were
talking about how do we do the weightless You know,
we could do platforms, we could have them just kind
of doing this around. He's like, there was no and
so they called NASA and they're like, can we build
our sets in there? And they said sure, yeah, which
he said, we kind of thought they were going to
say no, and they were like, oh no, now we
got to do this crap. Now how do we And
do you understand what that? What's they're doing? They're flying

(01:34:59):
up like this right, and then as they get to
the top and then pitched downwards. Yeah, it's at the
same they're going the same speed that you would be
free falling. So the plane tips over and now you're
just free falling in the plane with the plane as
it's going on.

Speaker 3 (01:35:15):
In the sane.

Speaker 2 (01:35:17):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 6 (01:35:18):
It's crazy that that works too.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
But yeah, yeah, and then they can do a whole
scene like that. Yeah, you know, they'd have to do
a scene probably a few times in different spots, and
like because it's only how like twenty some seconds.

Speaker 6 (01:35:31):
Every time, that would be a feather in my acting
cap I would think insane.

Speaker 3 (01:35:35):
And none of them puked, like the camera people didn't.
That's wild.

Speaker 6 (01:35:39):
Anyway, I would have puked.

Speaker 3 (01:35:40):
I think that's incredible. I would appeke. I'll puke right
now just thinking about it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
Dude, I can't even look at my phone while riding
passenger in the car.

Speaker 3 (01:35:54):
I love that. Apparently, when Tom Hanks joined the cast,
the Real Gym sent him Hotel leg that read Welcome
aboard to Paul thirteen, which I bet Tom Hanks just
freaked out about if he was that big of a
you know, space nerd.

Speaker 6 (01:36:09):
Have you seen the AFI Honors for Tom Hanks? There
was an a F five he got like the lifetime
achievement and it's like kind of like this is your
life share and one of the present one of the
presenters is Jim Level.

Speaker 2 (01:36:19):
Go watch that after this.

Speaker 6 (01:36:21):
Okay, I've watched it a thousand times because they're sitting
there and then not just says, and now the commander
of Apollo thirteen, Captain Jim Lovell, and Tom Hanks just
goes oh, and you can see him going, oh my god.
And then Jim level comes out.

Speaker 3 (01:36:36):
He reacts to him the way we react to Tom Hanks. Yes, yeah, yeah,
I love that. That's amazing. I want to watch that immediately.
Let's say we said that one. This is Ron Howard's
favorite of his own films, which is pretty cool. Let's

(01:36:58):
see the crawler seem moving in the background of one
of the scenes as Apollo thirteen is being moved from
the assembly building to the you know, to the launch
pad I think is where it's going. That's the real
NASA Crawler and Ron Howard actually got to drive it,
which is pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
So that's see I should I didn't.

Speaker 6 (01:37:15):
I didn't think of that. Summer around here. Have got
a bag of rocks from the the crawler rides on rocks.
His uncle, Elyssa's uncle's a tugboat captain and brought some
SpaceX crap to Canaveral and while he was there, he
like scooped up a bunch of the rocks from that
road to bad So that's cool.

Speaker 5 (01:37:34):
That's really cool.

Speaker 3 (01:37:36):
Allegedly, let's see, he got a UTI we talked about.
Oh yeah, the condom le sleeve. We talked about that.
They all had humongous I think was the right size.
According to Ed Harris, his portrayal of gene Krant's reaction
to the Astronauts survival almost overcome with the motion. I

(01:37:58):
think we said this one was inspired by that interview.
So Pat you did say that, which I just thought
was so cool. This is crazy to me. So after
the premiere of the film, director Ron Howard asked the
audience members to write reviews of the film. While most
of the reviews were positive, one review stated there's no
way the crew would have ever survived the mission, and

(01:38:19):
so he often talks about that, and he's like, well,
not everyone's gonna love everything. There's gonna be one person
that doesn't know it's based on a true story.

Speaker 2 (01:38:29):
That's hilarious. Incredible, Uh, not believable.

Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
Not believable. We said that Ron Howard's mom and dad
we said that, Oh, I thought, actually so. Garysonise did
get to choose his part after Tom Hanks was cast.
Garrisonise was free to choose his part. When I looked
at it, he said, I want to play that guy.
Without him, they won't get back. So I thought that

(01:38:54):
was really cool and a cool, cool, cool part of
the movie. That was all that I had, Rob, did
you some.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
I just had a couple actors up for roles and things.
Brad Pitt turned down and offer to star in this film,
and he chose to star in Seven, which was a
good choice for him.

Speaker 3 (01:39:14):
Yeah, that's hard dark wow. Yep. Would he have been
Kevin Bacon's part probably in there, That's what I was.

Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
That would be my guest, the younger m Yeah, and
I can't picture him as one of the mission control guys.

Speaker 3 (01:39:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
John Cusack and Charlie Sheen were originally offered the role
of Fred Hayes, but they turned it down. Val Kilmer
was offered Jack Swygert and he turned it down to
do Batman Forever and The Ghost of Darkness. Also great choices,
but Val Kilmer would have been pretty great great. Yeah, yeah,

(01:39:52):
he would have been really great. And then it just
says Tom Hanks turned down Jumanji to be in this movie.
Wo no, wow, which Williams straightened.

Speaker 3 (01:40:06):
Yeah that worked out, Yeah, that worked out.

Speaker 6 (01:40:07):
So that's another reason I love Tom Hanks is he
followed his passion on this one so great. Yeah, He's like,
I gotta do this movie.

Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
I have to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:15):
It's like Space and Typewriters and home Free. These are
three things I love. These are the three things I'd
love the most. That's awesome, Pat, did we say any
trivia that we didn't get to say that you like
desperately need to get in?

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
I mean there's how there's we don't. I mean, we're
going to be here till two in the morning.

Speaker 6 (01:40:33):
I figured a lot of Okay, so I think I'm
comfortable with the amount that I have disclosed it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:40):
But I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:41):
Yes, will there be a sequel Judgment Day? No?

Speaker 3 (01:40:45):
No fourteen?

Speaker 2 (01:40:46):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:40:46):
Yeah, probably no.

Speaker 5 (01:40:47):
No.

Speaker 6 (01:40:48):
No fourteen would be boring because it worked.

Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
It's never great when it works.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
No, Well, then, do you guys want to play a game?

Speaker 5 (01:40:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:40:57):
I did. I just made it the thing called the
plot tub time Machine, And I'm gonna give the plot
of a movie to you guys, and you're gonna have
one guest to figure out what it is. There's no
negative points. You can get an extra point if you
know what ties all of these movies together. So what

(01:41:18):
the theme is with all of these movies, what nice?

Speaker 3 (01:41:24):
Are we?

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
Ready?

Speaker 3 (01:41:25):
Later?

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
All right? Here we go Number one first, first one
to answer kind of a so yeah, and to yes,
thank you, to ring in you're gonna say your name?

Speaker 3 (01:41:36):
So I know who first? Good call?

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
All right. Number one secretly is fine but thought by
his family to be a dull salesman. Here he is
tracking down nuclear missiles and mugs. True Lives, True Lives
is correct. I love it. I'm gonna do terrible in
this that one that long ago. And he also love
that movie, so I figured he would get that one

(01:42:02):
pretty quick.

Speaker 3 (01:42:03):
His name is Harry Tucker. I think I think it's Taskers.
You're right, I'm gonna shut out. Yeah, I'm gonna cut that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:11):
It wasn't Tom what's his name from UMD in that movie? Yes, Yes,
Tom is Tom Is Bell was the reporter on the exactly.
We had Benny Ella John for that episode and he
got to talk to So I bet all right, let's
go to number two. Yeah. After floating in space for
fifty seven years, a Lieutenant Shuttle is found by a

(01:42:31):
deep space salvage team. Upon arriving at LV four twenty six,
the Marines find only one survivor, a nine year old
girl named Newt. But even these battle hardened marines with
all the latest weaponry are no match for the hundreds
of aliens that have invaded the colony.

Speaker 3 (01:42:52):
Wow, five bugs or aliens? That is it? Okay, okay,
all right, you got it. It was the sink I've
ever seen that. Okay that.

Speaker 2 (01:43:11):
They called her Newt. I don't know why because it
doesn't sound threatening at all. Let's let's go to number three.
When Earth falls under attack from invincible aliens, no military
unit in the world is able to beat them. An
officer who has never seen combat is assigned to a
suicide mission, Pat Armageddon. That is incorrect, not about guess,

(01:43:40):
I'll keep going killed. Within moments, he finds himself thrown
into a time loop in which he relives the same
brutal and yes lived.

Speaker 3 (01:43:50):
I repeat or Edge of Tomorrow?

Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
Was that the original Edge of Tomorrow is what I
was looking for. But one more sentence.

Speaker 3 (01:43:59):
But it's good.

Speaker 2 (01:44:00):
You should probably get on them early, because today number
four eight, here we go. Three brothers have left their
gunslinger ways behind them to settle down and start a
business in a growing town.

Speaker 6 (01:44:17):
Pat, I'll be your Huckleberry.

Speaker 2 (01:44:19):
That is too bad. That yeah, be beautiful? Do it?

Speaker 3 (01:44:25):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
Yeah, we've done True Lives, The Edge of Tomorrow, Tombstone.

Speaker 3 (01:44:28):
I got it. These are all Packston movies. They are
all movies that could make this harder easier.

Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
We'll see.

Speaker 6 (01:44:38):
I don't know knowing that information, I don't know that's
gonna help me, that's gonna help me get well.

Speaker 3 (01:44:43):
I'm not gonna count for me.

Speaker 2 (01:44:44):
Oh, I think you're gonna be fine. Let's do Number five.
A poor artist and a rich debutante fall in love
with each other while aboard an unsinkable ship.

Speaker 3 (01:44:56):
However the trip takes you.

Speaker 2 (01:44:59):
Got it. I tried to say it so fast? Where
are we after five bukes?

Speaker 3 (01:45:09):
I have five one?

Speaker 2 (01:45:10):
Everybody's in all right, We're all in it. Let's go
no shutout. Number six during the Approach. During the approach
of the most powerful storm in decades, a university professor
and an underfunded team of students prepare the prototype for
a groundbreaking Yes pat twister. Twister got a good one

(01:45:32):
tornado data gathering device called Dorothy Dorothy Dorothy? Yes, what
do you say, Dorothy Dorian? Oh? I always do that?
You do the Yeah, the Jimmy Stewart.

Speaker 6 (01:45:49):
Yeah, speaking of Jimmy Stewart. I listen, I were just saying,
Tom Hanks is our Jimmy Stewart. Oh I love that,
like that, I love that, like that generation universally love
and he was a genuinely decent man and she brought that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
But I was like, I think you're right.

Speaker 3 (01:46:05):
I think it's Mary, not Dorothy that I always say around, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
Dorothy, Dorothy Mary there, Like you're you're correct, I'm incorrect.
Number seven a couple of teen misfits designed their ideal
woman on a computer. A freak pat got it. Uh,

(01:46:31):
now I have weird science. Weird science. He got it
nicely done.

Speaker 6 (01:46:34):
Due and Bill Paton's character in that movie is hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:46:41):
Or something.

Speaker 2 (01:46:41):
Yeah, he's so awful but so funny.

Speaker 3 (01:46:43):
Chat chat.

Speaker 2 (01:46:49):
All right, we'll do Number eight. I didn't know he
was in this, but Number eight, disguised as a human,
a cyborg assassin travels from twenty two to nineteen eighty
four to kill a woman sent to Protector as Kyle
Rees pat got it terminator.

Speaker 3 (01:47:07):
That is correct.

Speaker 2 (01:47:10):
Yeah, he's in the it's one of his first credits. Yeah, crap,
this is fun. That's getting so much more. I have
thought Pat has four so, oh my good. These next
two are not easy, correct, guys. Number nine, Los Angeles,

(01:47:33):
Denison Lewis Bloom survives by scavenging and petty theft. He
stumbles into a new career as a cameraman, and armed
with a camquarder and police scanner, begins nocturnal forays across
the city. Yes, Bukes, night Crawler, Night Crawlers. Correct, it's
a great movie, it is. I didn't remember him in it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:55):
I don't remember that either. Is that Jake Jillen Hall guy?

Speaker 6 (01:47:59):
Yeah, yeah, it's but it's so good.

Speaker 3 (01:48:03):
Roby No, not Robby Mallock. It's the other guy who
I get confused with him? Who's the camera guy that
he gets He's a really good actor too.

Speaker 5 (01:48:11):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
I can't remember it, is it? Yeah? Those two get
my brain. I get it, and they're both really they're
so good. Number ten This is a weird one. Years
ago Coconut Pete had a hit record, but now he
runs a tropical island resort where he spends his days

(01:48:33):
basking and hedonism with the rest of the resorts off
beat staff. The Paradise Coconut Pete presides over, however, becomes
a living hell when an unknown killer begins slaughtering the staff.
As the body count increases, so too does suspicion among
the survivors. Now it's up to Coconut Pete and what's

(01:48:53):
left of his staff to solve the mystery and stop
the bloodshed.

Speaker 3 (01:48:58):
Ow I don't have any idea what this is, Coconut
ideas I would have got you. It was because I
hated this Okay, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
And a Conda that's a.

Speaker 3 (01:49:12):
I don't know, not correct, Captain Jack, No absolute shot.

Speaker 6 (01:49:16):
I thought of Catron too, but that's not it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
It was the follow up after The Broken Lizard. Guys
did Super Troopers. They then did a movie called Club
Dread Oh, and I was all excited about. I went
to the theater and I was like this, Yes, wasn't it?

Speaker 3 (01:49:36):
And those types of movies when they're when you're not
into them, are such a It was a.

Speaker 6 (01:49:42):
There's no part of my brain that has any of
that movie, and it was no memory of that in
any cell of my brains.

Speaker 3 (01:49:52):
Well you're better for it. But that was really close
close Winters to four.

Speaker 2 (01:50:01):
Phil Jaxson thing helped me that helped get my Yeah, it.

Speaker 3 (01:50:04):
Did not help me.

Speaker 2 (01:50:05):
Do you know what one of his very first credits was,
And I should have put it in there, but it
was stripes. He was just a random really, just one
of the dudes, just a random guy. I don't even
think he was one of the main guys. I think
he's just kind of background.

Speaker 3 (01:50:18):
Really, I did not know that. That's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:50:22):
But Mugs is going to tell us how our top
five movies and space draft is going to go. Yeah,
but that's just for our patriots.

Speaker 3 (01:50:28):
For the patrons. If you want to hear that, you
can go to patreon dot com. Slash the abanindor has
been right now and you'll be able to listen as
we draft those which will be super super.

Speaker 2 (01:50:36):
Fun, so much fun.

Speaker 3 (01:50:39):
Pat Thanks for coming on, man, this was such a
blast to have you on for that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:42):
I'm so glad about this movie that I love you
and just watching you nerd out and love it so much.

Speaker 3 (01:50:52):
It's inspiring.

Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
I enjoyed it.

Speaker 6 (01:50:55):
There's this Alyssa. Alyssa is a good audience because she
knows I love it, just you know how she tolerates
me talking about it.

Speaker 3 (01:51:02):
But this may be the first time in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
I'm glad we could make it happen.

Speaker 3 (01:51:09):
So happy it happened. Stay tuned for that draft, and
stay tuned for a great movie that's upcoming. But I
don't want to screw up and do the wrong one,
so I'm not going to tell you. Guys, don't tell.
But yeah, that does it Today for Apollo thirteen, I'm
robling Christ. I'm thank you guys so much for listening
until we talk to you next time. In joy, the

(01:51:29):
great indows the sun is shining, not a cloud in
the sky.

Speaker 1 (01:51:36):
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but we would sit on down and talk some movies.

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