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May 16, 2025 77 mins

In this powerful episode, Apostle Mike sits down with former astrologer Angela Scafidi for a raw and riveting testimony of freedom from New Age deception. Angela shares how her journey through astrology, reiki, yoga, and psychic practices nearly destroyed her—until she cried out to Jesus and experienced radical deliverance.

You’ll hear the full truth of her transformation and why the so-called "light" of New Age spirituality is really a counterfeit meant to keep people from the real power of the Holy Spirit. This isn’t just a story of healing—it's a call to repentance, discernment, and revival for a generation hungry for truth.

  • Why astrology, yoga, and New Age practices are more dangerous than they appear
  • How spiritual hunger can lead to deception—and how Jesus rescues
  • The demonic agenda behind counterfeit comfort
  • The power of surrender and full deliverance through Christ
  • How to pray for loved ones trapped in New Age practices

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(00:33):
Well, hey, I'm here withAngela Scafiti and I'm so excited
to hear your story and get itout to so many more people.
Shout out to Everly, my 10year old daughter who is officially
your biggest fan and she'slearned so much.
She's like glued to your livestreams every time.
And as a dad, I'm just soprivileged to have voices like yours
speaking into her life alreadyat this young age.

(00:55):
But I'd love for you to justto kind of share your story, your
testimony, like what God hasbrought you through, because I believe
that so many need to hear it.
And for those of you who arenot new to my channel, you know,
like these stories become a testimony.
God, do it again.
And so even just sharing yourstory yesterday at V1 Church, I mean
there were so many peoplecoming out of, you know, the same

(01:17):
things that you struggled with.
And so I believe it's going tohappen multiplied by tens of thousands
in this stream.
So yeah, maybe just tellpeople a little bit about where you
come from.
Yeah.
Praise the Lord.
Well, first of all, thank youagain for having me here, for having
me speak at V1.
It's such an honor.
I was telling you before wewere streaming and just the last
couple days that me and myhusband, we just admire you and your

(01:38):
family so much.
So it's truly an honor.
Like, I feel, I feel like theLord really trusts me to be connecting
me with the people that he isand you're definitely one of them,
so.
Oh, that's what it is.
Yeah, it is a trust.
Like what happens in thesecret place is publicly acknowledged,
you know, And I watched youand I just want to like, just say
this.
I, I had the best seat in thehouse next to your husband Mike,

(02:01):
who's like off camera here,which I love him and he was filming
with his phone and I thinkMike and Mike were just like standing
off the, watching you.
But there were several timeswhere, where like surges of power
would just come through youand I would look at the crowd and
just watch them respond to the anointing.
And so I really believe thatGod is just elevating you in this

(02:22):
time and just putting thatanointing behind your voice to get
the message out to so manymore people.
And just your abilityyesterday to just, it was like you
were throwing out theseknives, just hitting right on the
bullseye.
And I was watching peopleacross all locations.
We're still getting testimony,so thank you.
For, for.
Yeah, well, thank God becauseI mean, like I said on your stage,

(02:45):
Yesterday, I was having thismoment the other night with the Lord
where I was like, I can'tbelieve this is my life.
I can't believe that I'm here.
I can't believe that I knowall these people who are just so
on fire for you.
And he was telling me, this isnot your life.
This is my life, because thisis my life through you.
Like, it's no longer me that live.
And that's.
That's the truth.
Because if it was still me wholived, it would be exactly where

(03:09):
I was my whole life, which wasdepressed, anxious, suicidal.
Like, all of the things, theworst things.
My entire life, I was always bullied.
I was a single child.
I never really had a coregroup of friends.
I was always like, the weirdlittle girl that no one liked.
Like, none of the boys everliked me.
Like, all these sob storiesand these spirits of rejection and
abandonment, never having a dad.

(03:31):
Just all this stuff that theenemy used and continued to use throughout
the years.
Suicides in my family,suicides in the children around me,
even peers that I had, youknow, the door opening to death with
my own experience of self harm.
All of this compilingthroughout the years that would ultimately
lead to me being in the middleof the Ocean.

(03:54):
2014.
It's actually 10 years agothis August where we got the phone
call on the boat that mygrandmom died and was not supposed
to happen.
If we knew she was sick oranything was wrong, we obviously
wouldn't have gone on vacation.
Yeah.
So.
So it was completelyunexpected when that happened.
And she was like, my favoriteperson in the world because I did
grow up with a single mom, andmy mom always did the best she could

(04:17):
with what she had, but shedidn't have Jesus.
So it was all in her own strength.
And there was this very.
She had this this feministkind of boss babe mindset, but she
didn't call it that.
Then it's kind of like a millennial.
She's like a strong woman.
Right.
And so it was always like,pull herself up by the bootstraps.
This, like, feminist ideology.
You don't need no man.
So that also kind of got inwhen I was little.

(04:39):
But that being said, sheneeded my grandmom's help.
Yeah.
So grandma was like a secondmom in a lot of ways.
And I just.
I loved her.
I adored her.
But a lot of sin came inthrough my life, even with her influence,
like gluttony and justdisordered body image, those kinds
of things, because she wouldkind of hide food from my mom that
she would give me in private.

(05:01):
So like, even when I had thesewonderful influences like my mom
and my grandmom, I was stillbeing fed worldly demonic things.
I just didn't know it.
But the enemy would use all ofthis later, which is what I'm getting
to.
So when she died, it was likethe icing on the cake for everything
else that I was alreadystruggling with, which was that incessant
depression and anxiety and Ijust want to die.

(05:22):
I'm self harming and nothing'sgetting better.
So what I did, I was justdesperate and I was broken and I
was already desperate and broken.
Like I didn't need this on topof it all.
And I always believed in God,but it was sort of like, I don't
know, he's just kind of there.
Yeah.
I don't really know who he isor what he's doing or what his function

(05:43):
is.
It's just like, okay, I guessthere's a God.
I grew up very looselyCatholic, like extremely loose, like
meeting never really went right.
I would.
Well, I went to Catholicschool, but I was never taught the
gospel, so.
Interesting.
Yeah, it sounds about right.
Yeah.
And we would go to church orgo to mass rather.
And it was just, I never.
There was never like that relationship.

(06:04):
I never heard anyone tell me,Jesus loves you or Jesus died for
you.
It was just like, you know,you do this, you do that.
But so I knew God was thereand I was mad at him.
When she died, I would writethese suicidal soliloquies, like,
I don't understand, like, Godif you're there, like, I hate you,
like stuff like that.
When she died, because I wasso broken.
It's like, if there's a God,why would he take the one person

(06:27):
who made me feel okay?
Because that's what she was to me.
Yeah.
And I was just desperate and I.
I didn't know any better.
So I sought out a mediumbecause I didn't think anything evil
of it.
It's just normal.
I mean, think about how likedesensitized everyone is to just

(06:49):
spirituality in a lot of ways.
Like, you walk into Barnes andNoble and they have tarot books right
on the entrance.
Find your horoscope.
The other night, I'm in anUber and it had a screen.
Pick your zodiac sign, likeread your horoscope on the way to
your destination.
It's just like witchcraft isall around us and we' desensitized
to it because it's so watereddown in culture.

(07:10):
And that's exactly the same mindset.
I had.
It's just like, this issomething to do because people do
it.
I had watched Long IslandMedium is super popular at the time.
And so I thought, well, maybeI should seek out a medium.
Maybe I can talk to my grandmom.
And that's what I did.
Sure enough, she knew thingsabout me she had no business knowing.
She knew the necklace I had onunder my turtleneck.
Wow.
She knew she was accurate.

(07:31):
She was so accurate.
She knew what my grandmomcalled me.
She knew what my grandmalooked at.
Like.
And then she started tellingme my grandma was there with me.
I pulled a card that said, weare so connected.
And that was like the doorwhere I was like, she's here and
I can talk to her.
I didn't know that was afamiliar spirit.
Yeah.
That had been on an assignmentsent from the devil to just capitalize
on this trauma and on this moment.

(07:52):
For me to come into agreementwith that.
Probably just wanted to killme too.
Yeah.
And it was the sin of necromancy.
Biblically.
Yeah.
Which we don't.
We don't call it that becausewe've normalized it so much.
Yeah.
Like.
Like I said, It's a cute TV show.
Yeah.
Like, it's like on 8 o' clockTuesdays, Long Island Medium.
Just necromancy.
And it's so touching becauseit's like, oh, my grandma does love

(08:12):
me.
And it's like, you peoplethink, oh, this is compassionate.
And the psychic medium, it's.
Is coming to help.
Yeah.
Because I think that's how thedemonic operates.
Right.
It's like people always thinkit's going to show up in the form
of some satanic evil feelingthings in a pitchfork.
Yes.
But it often is in the form ofa counterfeit comfort.
It's an illusion.
He comes as an ang of light.

(08:34):
So that's really for you.
It was your.
The death of your grandmotherthat then you sought this out.
You're committing the sin of necromancy.
A familiar spirit's giving allthis accurate information and kind
of confirming something thatreally is a whole illusion.
And then you start goingdeeper into it.
Y.
That's what happened.
And I always say that 2ndCorinthians 11:14 verse is like the

(08:54):
thesis of New Ageism.
Come on.
Because he does masquerade asan angel of light.
And all of New Age is aboutencompassing light and love.
Like, that's the language.
And it seems so innocent andit seems so innocuous and it seems
so comforting, like you said.
And it really resonates.
And that's that's how thedevil gets you.
People say, well, if thisstuff was demonic, why are people
doing it?
Well, because he gives youjust enough truth to get you hooked

(09:17):
on the lie.
That's just.
That's just what he does.
So that opened up the door forme to start seeking out my own psychic
abilities.
I wanted to know how I couldtalk to her all the time, not use
this medium, who, by the way,had a cross and said that she used
the archangels.
So these people, I just wantto make this clear.

(09:37):
Oftentimes they don't have bad intentions.
I never had bad intentions.
I know that medium didn't havebad intentions.
She wasn't like, I'm going togather these people in a room so
they can talk to the devil.
It's.
Yeah, because that's thenature of deception, is that you
don't know you're deceived.
And I know that the Lord has alot of grace for that.
Like, he knows that you have apure heart.
And the devil knows, too, andthat's why he's going to take advantage

(09:57):
of it.
Come on.
So, so, so good.
Unfortunately, the road tohell is paved with good intentions.
So your intentions arecompletely irrelevant.
That's why the Word tells usthat our hearts are deceitful and
sick.
Desperately sick.
And we can't know it.
Right.
So we can't know it.
We have to trust God and whohe says he is and not allow the devil

(10:20):
to give us this caricature ofwho he is based on our own understanding
and our own flesh.
Because then what happens isyou form a relationship with God,
but it's not go.
It's a demon dressed up as whoyou want God to be, and then you
become a medium.
Yeah.
So that's what she was doing.
She didn't mean to, but thedevil had deceived her, and I don't

(10:41):
blame her for anything.
And I pray she gets saved.
But would she say she's aChristian, though?
I don't know Christian.
But she had pictures ofarchangels and she had angel cards.
Yeah.
And she was.
She prayed us into the.
The kind of ceremony, like the seance.
Wow.
And the reason why I ask isbecause I have a friend, he's a renowned
prophet, and he reached to merecently and he was like, hey, on

(11:03):
your YouTube channel, can youaddress this concept of Christians
who are involved in the newage Christians who are involved in
psychic medium practices?
Because what's happening onhis Instagram is they're all being
attracted to the propheticnature of his gifting and his DMS
are being filled with peoplecalling themselves Christians who
are involved in psychicpractices, and they're basically

(11:26):
blending the two together.
And so.
And you're kind of saying,like, that was your initial.
It wasn't like, hey, we'regoing to explicitly utilize the devil
for this information.
It was.
It came in the form of lightand love, obviously a counterfeit.
I feel like that's increasing indeed.
Because when people hear theword witchcraft, they think of, like,
this scary.

(11:46):
Like, I have a big hat.
We meet at midnight under themoon and, like, gather in a coven
with salt around us.
Like, yeah, witchcraft.
It's like I said, literally onthe uber screen, Pick your zodiac
sign.
That's witchcraft.
Yeah, witchcraft is.
Is yoga even.
I mean, we can talk about thatlater if you want.
But it's.
And that's kind of where whatmy edge was.

(12:06):
It was never.
I would have never calledmyself a witch then with all the
stuff that I was doing.
I would have just calledmyself a spiritualist.
I was that girl where it'slike, I'm not religious.
I'm spiritual.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, I thought that was,like, a cool thing to say.
Yeah.
But you can't mix the two.
It's oil and water, and it's.
It's two kingdoms trying tomake a kingdom of neutrality which
doesn't exist.
It's the kingdom of light orthe kingdom of dark.

(12:28):
If it's not of the kingdom of light.
I'm always saying, like, byprocess of elimination, if it's not
the Holy Spirit, then what is it?
Yeah, because there's.
There's two.
Exactly.
It's like either the HolySpirit or a demonic spirit.
There is no neutrality.
And so I'm.
Thank you for, like, justmaking that distinction because.
For as simple as this seems tome and you.
Because we're now castingdemons out of people all the time

(12:50):
and helping them get free.
I know that there's so manypeople watching right now that this.
That they're getting arevelation of this.
And I believe the HolySpirit's even starting to expose
to you some things in your ownlife so that you can get free.
Because when you hearconversations like this, those.
Those chills that you get allover your body is actually an acknowledgement.
Oh, no.
What I'm involved in is evil.

(13:11):
Right.
And I love your ministry somuch because it's a ministry of exposure.
So true light exposes thefalse light.
Amen.

(14:24):
And the dark can't comprehend it.
That's.
And, yeah, exact.
Come on.
We're tag team preaching.
Yeah.
So.
So, okay, so you're involvedin this.
And so you never would callyourself a witch.
And so.
But let me ask the question tothose of you watching right now,
how many of you starting tothat maybe you are a witch or a warlock
and you've been involved inthese things?
Because that's the first step.

(14:44):
And I love how you say thenature of deception is you don't
know you're deceived.
It's not right.
Because I always want to makeit clear it's not to condemn anybody.
Yes.
And I mean, even the word saysthat in John, that he didn't come
to condemn the world, he cameto save it because he loves us.
It's not about condemninganybody or shaming anybody.
It's about exposing it andletting you know what the truth is,

(15:05):
because the truth is what setsyou free.
That's what the word of God says.
And so when you expose theselies, when you have a revelation
of truth, that's what makesyou free.
And that's why Jesus came toset you free, to set the captives
free and give you life more abundantly.
It's like he didn't just.
This is a revelation I had.
We're skipping way ahead, buta revelation I had within the last,

(15:26):
like, year was, I think a lotof the time we preach about how you're
a dirty, rotten sinner, you'reno good, which is true.
Without God, you're not.
Without Jesus, you're not.
But it's like, why did he do that?
Well, the famous John 3:16verse says, because he loves you.
So it's having an actualrevelation of love.
And that everything I'msharing today is not because I'm

(15:48):
trying to call you out becauseI hate you, or I think you're wrong,
or you're just evil and you'reno good.
It's not that at all.
It's actually, none of us areany good without Jesus.
And he loves you so much thathe wants you to have a revelation
of this truth, that he is theonly way.
And you don't need these otherthings to reach Him.
You just need him to give youhis spirit.

(16:09):
Yeah.
And then you reach the Father.
It's so good.
Well, and the root of this was grief.
Yes.
So, like, you were deeply grieving.
And that's why I don't thinkthat people say, what demonic stuff
can I do today?
I mean, they're coming,they're saying, like, I am in such
a deep grief, I need comfort.
And so, like, one of my topviewed videos is 10 Things to Remove
from your house.

(16:30):
And one of them was like, soultie objects.
And I talked about, like, howin grief, people, they.
They hoard and harbor allthese objects.
And the.
And every sing time they seethose objects, it reinforces the
grief.
And biblically, grief shouldbe a season, not a cycle.
So we should mourn.
There's a season of mourning.
Like when your grandmother died.

(16:50):
Like, the most appropriatething to do is mourn, lament.
But that should be a season,not a cycle.
When Moses died, it was like,yes, all of Israel is going to go
into a time of mourning.
But then Joshua said, allright, everybody, wash your face.
Now we've.
We've cried, we've mourned.
Wash your face for tomorrow.
We go in and you talked aboutnot having a father.

(17:11):
And I think oftentimes thereare, like, these strong male figures
that God will put in our life,like a Joshua who will say, you know
what?
We mourn for a season.
But, daughter, wash your facefor tomorrow.
We go in and give you that confidence.
Be like, okay, let's go intothe next season.
But what the devil does is hetakes what should be a season and
makes it a cycle.

(17:31):
Yeah, And I think I see youkind of going deeper and deeper and
deeper into that.
So then what happens next?
Well, that.
The way you're describing itas a cycle is perfect because I always
refer to new age as a hamsterwheel because it's like the same
thing over and over.
It just looks different every time.
Wow.
Okay.
Right.
So I.
After the cards.
And this is all like a domino effect.

(17:53):
Yeah, yeah, it's all a dominoeffect because the medium led to
the cards, it led to crystals,because you just want more.
It's like a spiritual narcotic.
You just need more and moreand more.
So I go to the crystals, Ineed all their properties to heal
me to.
And then that led to not onlywanting to connect with grandma,
but it's like, oh, all thesecrystals do all these other things.

(18:14):
Now I can attract abundance.
Now I can attract love.
Now I can attract confidence.
So now it's like, okay, we'vegone from necromancy to, like, true
divination.
Like, I'm trying to manifestthings in my own life for my own
self, and.
And essentially spell casting,like, with the crystals.
And before you know it, thislittle table that I had of crystals

(18:34):
became like an altar of, like,thousands of dollars worth of crystals
over the years that I keptright at my bed.
It's like I had the demonicPortal right next to my bed every
night.
So.
But the crystals ultimatelyled to yoga because through the crystals
I started to learn about likethe chakra system and, you know,
all these, this New age stuff.
So I always like to make itclear that when I say new age, it's

(18:57):
an umbrella term because newage is not new at all.
It actually goes back to the garden.
Truly, like, the first sin wasnew age.
It's not what it was called,but it was New age because what did
he do?
What did the serpent do?
He said, you can be as the gods.
He offered that to Eve, toAdam and Eve, and she accepted.

(19:18):
And that's what you're doingin New Age.
You're trying to achieve thatgodlike status.
You're becoming your own Godand then you're communing with, with
gods of divination.
And so with New Age, it's likeHindu philosophy, Buddhist philosophy,
and it's not again ever tohate or condemn.
It's just objectively what it is.

(19:42):
So, yeah, it's the umbrellaterm with all the chakra stuff that
did lead to yoga because thatis all Hindu beliefs.
Yeah, exactly.
And then at the same time, asI mentioned, my grandmom had led
me kind of of unknowingly whenshe was doing this, led me down a
lot of like gluttonous paths.
I had an eating disorder thatat first was just completely like,

(20:03):
I was like really obese at age 20.
Like I couldn't even walk upthe stairs.
Like, I was so out of breath.
Yeah, I was so overweight.
I wore the same thing every day.
I was like always sweaty.
I just, I hated myself so much.
And when she died, a part ofwhy her life ended kind of prematurely
was because of her health.
And so I kind of wanted totake control of my own health.

(20:24):
And this is before I was saved.
And I was like, I'm going todo it.
And I had this like selfsavior complex.
Like, oh, this is it.
I'm going to redeem mygrandmom's death through what I can
do with my life now.
So I got healthy.
You're speaking healthy.
And I say that because, yeah,I lost weight and I got healthy,
like on the outward, but I wasnot inside, I was not healed.
And I mean, I sacrificed a lotthroughout my 20s because of this

(20:48):
eating disorder where I wouldnot go out with people, I would not
go out with, with who's now my husband.
I want to go out with him,like to even eat a burger.
Like, I wouldn't do anythingand no matter how much weight I lost,
I never loved myself and I wasnever healed.
So you see, I was trying inthe physical and in the spiritual
to heal because I had this,like, new, healthy lifestyle and
I was reading all the selfhelp books.

(21:08):
And then this is in tandemwith, like, when yoga was introduced
into my life, because it wasthe best of both worlds.
It was like a physicalpractice, but it was also a spiritual
practice because it is both.
Both?
Yeah.
I don't know.
Someone needs to hear thatit's both.
I know.
I felt stretching so deeply.
Please emphasize that a little bit.
Yeah, I mean, I have.
I have a lot of content.
Yoga is like a whole thing.
I have a lot of stuff on this.
But it's not just stretching.

(21:29):
It is by design, by definition.
It's historical context.
It's curation.
It is intrinsically aspiritual practice, and it is divination.
You're creating a demonicaltar with your body.
Like, you're putting.
It's one thing people like touse First Corinthians 8, right.
Where it's, oh, if it's meatsacrifice idols, it's okay.

(21:50):
It's a matter of conscious.
But it's.
First of all, that's about food.
Completely different.
You're literally using yourbody as a sacrifice.
Yeah.
It's not just food that you're eating.
It's.
You're putting yourself on thealtar of worship for these pagan
deities.
And that's exactly what yoga is.
No matter what your intentionsare, because exactly what we were
saying before, your intentionsare irrelevant.

(22:11):
It is a pagan practice.
And even God himself says.
Because a lot of people willlike to say as Christians, well,
you know, I read the Bible, Ipray, I listen to worship.
When I do yoga, even Godhimself says, don't worship me the
way that the pagans worshiptheir gods.
So right then and there, like,the whole argument just falls apart.
Because even God himself says,even if this were okay, which it's

(22:33):
not, I don't want you to doit, because I don't want to be worshiped
the way they worship their gods.
I'm just gonna say this hasbeen the hardest podcast ever, because
I want to shout you down theentire time.
And I just hear Evan tellingme, you ruined all the audio by shouting
her down.
Because you're.
I feel like.
Because I live in New YorkCity where yoga is ubiquitous.
Yes.
At the same time, you have theinfluencer culture that really emphasize

(22:56):
physical fitness.
Then you have the spiritualaspect where people are looking into
the new age.
And I.
I think, yeah, the bridgebetween both of those really is yoga.
And so many people are gettingentrapped and ensnared it.
But they even Christians notunderstanding that, like, you know,
the.
The B says or the Bible saysthat your body is a temple of the
Holy Spirit.

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And so isn't it just like thedevil to say, well, let me take the
Holy Spirit's temple anddesecrate it with these actions.
Amen.
And it's so funny because talkto anybody who came out of Hinduism
about yoga and they'll tellyou explicitly what you're saying.
It's just sometimes Christians.
You know what I think it istoo, and this is my own rant, and

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then I'd love for you to go alittle bit deeper on this is that
I think what a lot ofChristians are trying to do is counterbalance
all the time.
Oh, I don't want the world tothink that I'm too hyper charismatic.
And in our attempt to appearmore intellectual, we're actually
more deceived.
Yes.
It's like what we're trying todo is send a signal.
No, I'm just like you.

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And what we need to be sayingis, I'm not like you.
I'm in the world, but not ofthe world.
You know, God calls uspeculiar and tells us to be set apart.
Yeah.
We lose our saltiness.
We stop being salt when wecome the same flavor.
It's like.
So that's why I said it was sohard for me not to shout you down
because you're speaking and I.
I have lost so many churchmembers because of our stance on

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yoga.
And isn't that interesting?
Because if it was really juststretching, why does it bother you
so much?
It's almost like there's aspiritual component to it that's
tethering you to the practice.
It's so weird.
It's.
It's the craziest thing.
You must know Jehovah Sassy.
Yeah, sometimes I.
I call God Jehovah Sassybecause, you know those little ye.

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Little revelations of like.
Yeah, you're right.
Like, if it was just aboutstretching, why would you leave a
church over here?
Up over dumbbells like that?
Yes.
So it's like.
Yeah.
Or could it be you're notgetting mad about it, but the spirits
inside of you are?
And that's exactly what it is.
Like, it's a manifestation.
And I used to be one of those people.
Which we'll get there eventually.

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I think.
This might just be a part one,Let me tell you.
I was doing yoga and it'sexactly what you said.
It was the best of both worldsfor me.
I got hooked on it immediatelybecause it was giving me, I was seeing
the physical.
Like I was, I was like toningup and it was giving me that, that
carnal satisfaction of like,wow, I look great.

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Even though I still hated myself.
Which the topic of like myeating disorder is a whole other
thing.
Yeah.
And body dysmorphia and howdemonic that is, that there was a
literal demon that was causedlike seeing through my eyes in the
mirror, still seeing like a300 pound girl when I was actually
underweight.
Eating disorders are demonic.
But yeah.
Another thing.
Yeah.

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I decided I wanted to become ayoga teacher because yoga was helping
me so much.
And when I say helping, I wantto make it clear that these things
work and that's why they'redangerous and that's why God has
rules against them becausethey do work.
It's not like we're saying,oh, yoga is not really spiritual.
Oh, astrology doesn't actuallyprophesy, oh, the crystals don't

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really have any power.
And like the problem is they do.
And it's not the power of theHoly Spirit, it's coming from a demonic
source.
Yeah.
So the yoga was working in somuch as that it was a band aid on
a gunshot wound.
Every day.
I needed it, like I said, aspiritual narcotic.
I needed it.
I needed to wake up, do myyoga for an hour with the crystals.
That whatever I wanted forthat day, the kind of feeling I wanted,

(26:26):
crystals surrounding me, the,the music on, like the, the incense,
like all these things.
And if I missed even one day,I was a mess, which in and of itself
should speak.
But I wanted to be a yogateacher because I wanted to help
people.
And that quickly became a wayfor my ego to just completely burst

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because people loved my yoga teachings.
They said that the way I couldput the flow together was always
so perfect.
It always helped them releaseso much trauma and XYZ and the way
that, that I could speak.
They loved how I could speak.
I didn't even have to gothrough the moves.
I could just tell them what todo with their bodies.
And it's like literallywitchcraft over these people, telling
them, wow.

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Telling them what poses and,and the flows to get into and have
them actually worship thesegods without even realizing it's
because the spirits wereoperating through me.
The spirits were dictatingwhat they wanted them to do so that
they could have access as well.
And the yoga led to, you know,I was still Even though I was doing

(27:26):
all this and it worked,worked, I was still had this like
deep seated, just grief and sorrow.
And I didn't understand whybecause now, and this is like fast
forwarding a couple years innow I'm finally, I finally look the
way I want.
Now everyone wants me.
Like, I'm not that like littlegirl that's tubby and no one likes
her anymore.
It's like now I'm like thiswoman that everyone wants and never

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anyone good.
It was all like the demons inthem, one of the demons in me sort
of thing.
Wow, that'll preach.
Yeah, it was, it was really demonic.
The men that I was involvedwith and the relationships that I
had.
I use the term loosely.
But I couldn't understand whyI was doing all the things.
I was reading all the selfhelp books.
I was, I was trying to likemanifest all this abundant wealth

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and all these things.
And I was a yoga teacher now.
And I had my rituals, I had mycrystals, I had this, I had that.
Why, why, why, why, why?
It must be something else I need.
And this is what new age does.
It's always like, becauseyou're drinking from all these empty
wells and so you just, you'restill thirsty because you're really
looking for the living water,but you don't know that.
So it's like, okay, well I'mstill thirsty.
Where can I go now?

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What's next?
And so I'm up in bed one night Googling.
And this is where Isaiahalways laughs at me when I tell them
this part of my testimony.
I'm Googling, like, why am Iso depressed?
Why do I feel this?
And I find this stuff aboutyou're a starseed.
I'm like, what's that?
So basically the starseedgospel is that I incarnated from
on earth from another planet,that I'm essentially an alien for

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lack of a better term.
And this is Isaiah's like, I'mjust picturing you like flying in
on your spaceship and crashlanding in a.
But yeah, like, so I'm readingthis and this is.
I mean it sounds ridiculous.
That's why you laugh at it.
But you have to understand howdesperate I was to actually be like,
wow.
And you're years and years andyears into.
I'm an adult.

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Yeah.
Like I'm in my mid-20s.
Yeah.
Reading that I'm from.
I'm a spirit from anotherplanet that is incarnated on Earth.
Why it's so interesting too.
Oh, because we all have comehere to actually ascend the Collective,
essentially.
We are here to save.
Save the planet.
We're here to save humanity.
Like, who's the savior of humanity?

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Right?
So it's.
It's like a counterfeit gospelwhere you're the savior and you're
the martyr.
You're the one that's comehere to endure all this suffering
because you actually are on anassignment to save the world, to
ascend the world from 3Dvibration to 5D vibration.
And so it gave me the sense ofpurpose where.
Okay, the reason I feel likethis is actually because I'm homesick

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for the ninth dimension.
Yeah, it sounds ridiculous.
This is how sad I was.
This is how deceived I was,where this is actually what made
sense to me at the time.
Right.
And so I start resonating with this.
And now this is kind of wheremy stuff and my beliefs and ideologies
kind of started to shift fromjust, like, the things around me,
like the pretty crystals andthe yoga and the cards, to now, like,

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the esoteric realms and kindof space in the cosmos.
Yeah.
And that's what led me toastrology, ultimately, which was
like, my thing.
I loved astrology because itgave an answer for everything that
I was dealing with throughout my.
Literally my entire life.
You could track your birthchart from the second.
It's a birth chart from thesecond you were born to right now

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to the day that you die.
You can see all of it.
Yeah.
And it made sense.
Oh, this is why I am prone to lust.
This is why I have anxiety.
This is why these patterns inmy life happen the way they do.
This is why this.
This is why that.
And so astrology is very, verydangerous for many reasons, not only
for the demonic aspect of it,because it actually justifies your

(30:59):
sin nature, and it makes youaccept it as an integrated.
As just who you are andsomething you need to work through,
you are responsible for.
And it makes it cutesy.
Like, oh, I'm just.
I'm so angry because I'm inAries or whatever.
Like, that's, you know, like.
And it's.
It's a spirit of rage, butit's also like, you know, the Lord

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says, like, be sinful, but.
Or be angry, but do not sin.
But then when you're angry andyou sin, it's like, well, I just
had an Aries outburst.
So you're justifying.
You justify it.
No, did you hear that?
Like, in Rockefeller center inNew York City last Christmas, the
entire Christmas display wasthe Virgo.
It's like, yeah, here's yourastrological Sign.

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And.
But it also goes to show you,it's like, hey, we don't want to.
We don't want to makeChristmas about Christ.
Right?
So it's like.
And we got to make sure that it's.
And I think the scary partabout, like, astrology is that it's
being embraced as, like, pluralistic.
And now this is.
This is diversity.
Like, the umbrella we can allbe under isn't Christianity in America

(32:00):
anymore, but it is our sign.
And there's.
You know what I mean?
And so, like, I remember justbecause every year I take my family
for, you know, Christmascelebrations and, you know, we kind
of walk around Manhattan andwe do that thing.
And it was just like, I getthe holiday theme minus Christ, because
that's been true for many,many years in this country.

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But I think when they took itto, like, oh, so now it's going to
be spir.
But not religious.
And they think that that's themost acceptable thing because.
Oh, that's the least offensivething is we all.
Yeah, we all have a zodiac,you know, someplace on that wheel.
And so this now becomes thenew umbrella.
And I told my kids, like,that's where we are in society.

(32:41):
And I think there's manyChristians watching right now who
still don't think that's wrong.
I know you gave an example of,like, justifying sin nature, but
is there anything else youcould say to the.
Those who, you know, becauseeven when you're in the dating scene,
the first question is, what'syour sign?
You know, and so it's socommon, so ubiquitous, and we do
deliverances almost every weekon people who suddenly realize this

(33:04):
is demonic and they get free.
But could you maybe help themunderstand since especially you were
so deep in it?
Yeah.
Well, there's even a testimonythere, too, with the astrology, because,
I mean, like I said, that wasmy niche, but my astrology.
So the man sitting here who'snow my husband, just our birth charts
and our astrology isabsolutely as incompatible as you

(33:26):
can possibly imagine.
That used to mess with me sobad because we had been.
I mean, those that know mytestimony, we had been together basically
since we were 14, on and off.
And I'm struggling with allthis sin behind the scenes and like,
this.
This, like, lustfulinclination for other men and just,
like, unfaithfulness and justall this really demonic, sinful stuff.
Praise God for forgiveness.

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Amen.
All the.
All of the men that I wouldcome into contact with, their astrology
was like a perfect match.
Absolutely perfect.
Like the.
When you would break down the charts.
It was like written in thestars, star crossed lovers kind of
thing.
And then when I would match myastrology with my husband, my now
husband, it was like trainwreck, recipe for disaster.

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And so the thing with this is,you have to understand when you read
these things, things, andyou're like, oh, no, like you, you
come into agreement with it.
See, Jesus always makes acontingency on faith.
We are saved by grace through faith.
When he heals people, when hecasts out demons, he doesn't say,
like when they, when theythank him, he doesn't say, oh, you're,
you're welcome.
I'm, you know, I'm the son of God.
He says, your faith has healed you.

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Your faith has.
There's a contingency on faithin the spirit realm.
And the devil has to operateunder God's rule and his order.

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So faith, faith in yourastrology, in your, whatever your
horoscope says and whateveryour birth chart says, you come into
agreement with this.
And now that gives the devil alegal right for these things to actually
come to pass.
Because God is just so he willhonor your decision.
He will honor where your faith is.
And so the devil can say,well, he can petition God just like
he did Job.
Well, you see, this is wherethey're at.

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So, and God's like, okay, when I.
Think about the scripture,choose you this day, blessing or
cursing.
Amen.
You know, and curses.
And people don't, don't, don't understand.
This is visitation visited onour life from God, not from the devil,
because he's just.
And so then Christ comes in,you know, Galatians says he, he hangs
on a tree to deliver us fromthe curse.

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Yes, but a curse is a resultof our own sin.
Yeah, and people don'tunderstand that.
You know, they think, oh, thedevil goes around cursing people.
It's like, no, God isenforcing his justice with a curse.
That's the Old Testament saysthat goes to the third and fourth
generation.
But then Jesus came to free usfrom the curse.
And so I think legal rightthrough the power of agreement is

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so important for people tounderstand because they're putting
faith in what astrology says.
But as soon as they do that,and I think about Romans chapter
10, verse 9, that says,Confess with your mouth, believe
in your heart.
So belief is the faithcomponent and confession is the covenant
component.
And so what is astrology?
You're speaking with yourmouth, confessing.

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And as you're saying, oh, I'mthis, the identity is secured.
So it's like, you know, that'swhy words mattered.
You know, I.
I used to teach back in theday, and it's like, even in Shakespearean
times, you know, theElizabethan English, they would not
do a wedding ceremony in a.
In a play because it wasbelieved if you said the.
The words, you were married.

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Because, like, historically,they understood the power of words.
So when you read a Shakespeareplay, they will only allude to a
wedding ceremony.
They'll never show it it,because they just believed if a man
and a woman stand there andsay these words to each other, the
words are the covenant.
I mean, like.
Yeah.
And so I think, like, it's sofunny because now we just use our

(37:44):
words so flippantly.
You know, we're just talking.
You know, we're always sayingstuff and.
But we don't.
We need to bring back ahistoric understanding of the power
of words.
And I think what you're sayingwith astrology is like, you're coming
into covenant.
You're letting them declarewords over you.
And then demons are just like,yeah, yes.
You basically married intothis thing, and we have legal right

(38:05):
to you now.
And if I had believed all ofthat astrology, I mean, I believed
it, but if I had pursued it,we wouldn't be together.
We wouldn't be married.
He wouldn't be born againbecause he got born again right before
we got married, and wewouldn't have a daughter.
Wow.
So you see, it's like thedevil wanted me to go down this really
destructive path.
And that's exactly whatastrology is.

(38:26):
It is demonic prophecy beingspoken over your life.
And it's.
The devil counterfeits everything.
Yeah.
So he doesn't create.
So whatever God's plan foryour life is, God's will for your
life is the devil wants tojust take that and pervert it and
steal, kill, and destroy it.
Because Jesus came for anabundant life, for you to have an
abundant life, and the devilwants to take that.

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And so it's like witheverything New Age, there is a demonic
counterfeit.
I'm sorry, There is a demonic,demonic, godly, authentic for every
demonic counterfeit of New Age.
Wow.
And so it would be prophecy.
Yeah.
That is.
Astrology is the demonic counterfeit.
And then we have, like, Reiki,which is something else that I was
doing.
It's a demonic laying of hands.

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Because when you lay hands onsomeone with Reiki, it's source energy,
universal source energy.
Like, what is that?
But you don't have the HolySpirit, so you're just channeling
this Universal energy.
It's completely demonic.
And then you're facilitatingthat into somebody else.
So you're not healing themwith the Holy Spirit.

(39:30):
You're actually giving themmore demons through the Reiki practice.
Because it says in Matthew,the spirit will go out and then come
back.
And that's exactly what Reikiis doing.
The spirit goes out and thencomes back with seven more evil because
you feel better for a minute.
But then the demon sees thehouse swept and clean and comes back
with seven more, more worse.
And that's everything with New Age.

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So the astrology was my thing.
And this is like, you know,we're at.
At this point, almost roundingsalvation, because the last, like,
three years of my demonic walkwas really entrenched in astrology.
I was, like, branding myselfwith my zodiac sign.
I was, wow.
I was totally obsessed with it.
I wanted.
I was telling you earlier, breakfast.
I wanted, like, a wholeastrology sleeve.

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I wanted my birth chart allover me.
I wanted moons all over me.
And I started this podcastcalled Moon and Back where I was.
I would give new moon and fullmoon reports every two weeks of here's
what's going on in the stars.
Here's what's going on in thecosmos with these planets.
This is why you feel this way.
Here's a good time for you tocultivate xyz.
With the new moon, it wasalways about setting intentions and,

(40:36):
you know, manifestation, lawof attraction, witchcraft stuff.
And then with the full moon,it was always about releasing what
no longer serves you, whichis, like, so convenient, the flow
of things, because it's like, what?
Well, if you're reallystruggling those first two weeks,
well, then you can justrelease it.
And then if you struggle thenext two weeks after the release,
well, that's okay, because nowyou have a chance to renew the cycle
and set new intentions.

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So it's always a justificationfor suffering, like, constantly with
every single thing that you'redoing in New Age.
And that's why I say it's ahamster wheel, because you're never
healing.
It's just like this pseudosalvation, this pseudo healing.
And that revelation I hadrecently about how it truly all goes
back to the garden, becausewhen she took that forbidden fruit,

(41:18):
it was like it was theknowledge of good and evil.
So it was like this promise,like, you can be like gods, and it's
like spiritual life.
Like, you can know all this stuff.
You can have all these things.
And God said if you do this,it will kill you.
You will surely die.
Not just die, you will surelydie if you do this.
And she did it anyway.
And so what happens now is weall know in our soul that our spirit

(41:40):
is dead.
Like, we know that.
And so we're constantlysearching in this life to be spiritually
reconciled to back to God, toget that spiritual life back.
And we.
We can't put a finger on whatexactly that means.
So some people get with drugsand sex and, and alcohol and like
worldly things, fame and money.

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And then other people, like I was.
It's, it's, it's.
You actually lean into thespiritual component.
But with New Age, it's.
You keep trying to findspiritual life in the very thing
that God said would bring youspiritual death, the promise of God,
of being your own God.
And you get stuck in thiscycle, this vicious cycle of constantly

(42:23):
trying to bring yourselfsalvation, constantly trying to bring
yourself life through themodality of spiritual death.
And it doesn't work.
And that's why all these,these doctrines in New Age, like
enlightenment and, andreincarnation and karma and like,
all these things, how you canascend your higher self, it's all
a counterfeit gospel.

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It's all a counterfeit beingborn again.
Because we know that we needto be born again deep in our soul.
We all know it.
We're all creation.
He's the creator.
We know that.
We know we have to be born again.
So the Devil says you can doit this way.
Like, you can just attune toyour higher self, a higher frequency.
You can do this and do that,reach enlightenment.
He tries to give us all theseways, but it's that same forbidden

(43:05):
fruit.
It's spiritual death.
And you keep trying to do it.
You keep trying to find allthese different ways, all these different
avenues, and you keep feelingdead inside, no matter what.
And it's because you're notactually resurrecting.
You're still dead.
Like, you're still dead thewhole time.
It's just all counterfeit salvation.
It's all pseudo healing.

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And what happened for me was Istarted to find stuff like this.
Like, it would just come up onmy Instagram and I don't even know
why, just randomly.
Oh, yoga's demonic.
And I'd be like, well, that's ridiculous.
Like, that's the dumbest thingI've ever seen in my life.
Yeah, because it's helpingyou, right?
Helping you.
It's helping me.
And I think that I love it.
And it's my life.

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I mean, I'm teaching it.
It's what I wanted my careerto be, was Like a yoga teacher, a
tarot reader, a Reiki practitioner.
I wanted that to be.
My whole existence was justlike this spiritual guru.
Yeah.
And, and this teacher.
Because like I said, I hadthat podcast and I was trying to
promote self healing.
I used to say we're allwalking each other home on the self

(44:07):
healing journey.
And home was ultimately source.
It's God.
So people in New Age havethis, have this idea that they're
actually doing God's work andthey're just simply not.
And it's so evil.
Like the devil, you know, he,he's not.
God's not partial.
Neither is the devil.
Like he doesn't care.
He doesn't care what yourworship to him looks like, just as

(44:28):
long as it is not authenticworship of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Yeah, he doesn't care.
That's why he messes withChristians so much.
Because if you have one footin the kingdom of darkness, then
you actually have no feet inthe kingdom of light at all.
So he doesn't care.
So good.
He doesn't care.
If you go to church Sundaymorning and you worship and you pray,
the demons don't care.
If you go to your yoga classMonday night, that's perfectly fine.

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And that's not to say like,like you're not saved, but you're
in bondage.
Like you're absolutely in bondage.
And you're being tormented.
And there's, there's thingsabout these, these agreements that
you have and these spiritsthat are influencing you that is
keeping you from the totalityof freedom Jesus died for you to
have.
Because it's not just a sin issue.
It's a matter of literallyspiritual life or spiritual death,

(45:12):
like you keep saying.
And so if you're not, ifyou're not really walking in that
fullness of spiritual lifelife, then you have an inability
to really share the gospel.
And what's worse is you don'thave the light that Jesus had.
So when you walk into a roomand people don't see Jesus on you.
Yeah.
I mean, that's what theyshould see.

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But if you're doing all theseother things and this is what the
devil's really, it's not likea salvation thing.
It's a matter of who else canhe keep from Jesus through you?
Because if you're a Christian,he doesn't, he doesn't care about
the identity of Christian.
He cares about the imagebearing of Christ.
That's what he's after.
And so he's after your faithand he's after your demonstration

(45:54):
so if he can keep you inbondage with all these other things,
that's all he's interested in doing.
Because then it's likepopulation control for all the unsaved
people.
He can keep them there.
He can keep them out of the kingdom.
If he can convince you toflirt with his kingdom.
Yeah, yeah.
So.
Oh, this is so rich.
You know what?
Okay.
No, because I'm telling you, you.
I know we're about to praytowards the end of this, and I believe

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that you're going to lead somany people to Christ and.
Because I could just feel itsurging right now.
And there's.
The more you talk, there arepeople watching right now who are
actually thinking tothemselves, what must I do?
Like, how do I get saved?
How do I go all the way in?
But I kept having this vision.
I never thought about this before.
So you said the first time,the first sin was New Age.

(46:35):
It was divination.
Divination.
You are God.
You are.
You will be like God.
You can know what he knows,the knowledge of good and evil, right?
But then you've got Jesusthrough the lineage of Mary all the
way back to Eve on themountaintop, being tempted by the
devil.
And the devil literally says,I will bless you.
You see all this?
I'll give it to you.
And so Jesus now has tofulfill Genesis, chapter three, which

(46:59):
is, your heel will crush hishead, right?
And it comes through that lineage.
And I was thinking about howJesus said, I'm going to pass up
the devil's blessings to goall the way to the cross, because
the devil basically was tryingto bless Jesus before the cross,
right?
And so it's to nullify the cross.
Like, hey, you're fastingright now.
You're in the mountain.
I can give you all this.

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And I think the illusion ofNew Age is what it can give you.
I can.
And you said, each crystal,each astrological sign, I can give
you this.
I can give you a mate.
I can give you wisdom.
I can give you strategy.
I can give you a communicationto the dead.
But it's like whatChristianity demands is that we go
to the cross with Christ, thatwe crucify ourselves and share in

(47:42):
his suffering.
And I love the way you said it.
I think even in the beginningof this, because I feel the anointing
so strong, you were like, I'mnot living my life.
This is the life of Christthrough me.
Because I died to self.
And it was like the wholefirst part of your story, the way
I heard it, it.
It's like you're doingeverything you can to save yourself,
but then Christ says, when youlose your life, that's when you find

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it.
Yeah.
And isn't it ironic becausewhen you actually die to yourself,
that's when you live.
Because it's him that's theroot spirit.
Right.
So it's all about thatspiritual life.
It's his life actually thatyou're looking for.
Well, and it's like theanxiety among Gen Z and millennials
is, I don't want to die.
I what's going to happen, whatunforeseen thing.
But Christianity is embraceall of that uncertainty and say,

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no, I actually choose to dieto self.
I choose.
And so I feel like we'rehitting a root right now.
Yeah.
So, yeah, let me, let me getto the salvation part before you
close out.
No, no, no, I feel it.
No, this, like, let's go intoit, cuz I feel like your story is
about to be multiplied.
Yeah.
Praise God.
I, basically, because it isall me.

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It's exactly what you said.
It's all me, me, me, me, me.
And it's like in New Age, it'sinteresting because they actually
tell you that you have to havean ego death.
And, but that's, but that'swhat I was saying.
It's like you have to die toyourself in the new age so you can
be your higher self.
But it's all self.
And what I said on, on yourstage, it's, it's, if self is the
floor, then self is the ceiling.

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So you just completely, youalways cap.
Every single time, everysingle time.
It's just a cycle.
It's a hamster wheel.
So for me, 10 years go by andI'm the same, like, essentially the
same.
I'm different on the outside.
I'm more demonized than I waswhen I went into it all.
And you can see it like whenyou look at old pictures of me.
I'm like skinny, I'm frail,I'm, I'm, I'm like dead in the eyes.

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I'm just completely demon possessed.
And I'm wondering why none ofit's working.
And at this point, I had justrelapsed self harm for the first
time in like six years whenthis happened.
Heavens.
I'm like, why?
Well, I'm doing everything.
I'm literally doing everything.
I don't understand.
I know my astrology inside outand backwards.
I meditate every single day.

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I'm doing my yoga every single day.
I'm getting all the Reikiattunements, like I.
I know how to work the chakra system.
I do the shadow work, I do theinner child healing.
By the way, how exhaustingdoes this sound?
I have my ritual every day.
I sage, I have palo Santo.
Like, I do everything.
I don't know what else to do.
Why do I still want to die?

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I don't understand why.
I just want to take my life.
I don't understand why.
I have this pit in my heart,my soul.
And I know now it was a Godshaped hole and it's in the shape
of a cross.
And I was trying to fill itwith all this other stuff that just
could not do it.
Like I said, I was thirsty forthe living water.
And I kept drinking from allthese empty wells and I get to the
end of myself, I hit thatceiling and I said, okay, I just

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want to die.
And I'm on my kitchen floorand I'm like, Jesus, save me.
Like, crying my eyes out.
And I just said those threewords and I don't know where they
came from.
I didn't know, but I now, Iknow now where they came from.
It was my soul just knowingthat I needed him because he's.
He's the lover of my soul.
He's the one that created me.
He loves me.

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He knit every hair on my head.
He made me in my mother's womb.
He loves me.
Yeah.
And he was after me.
And I said, jesus, save me.
And overnight, like, something changed.
The depression, anxiety, andintrusive thoughts, like, those three
major things gone.
And I was like, wow.
Well, those three words didwhat almost a decade of all this

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other stuff could never do.
Like all the rituals couldnever do.
And that's.
So that, that is like the cruxof, of Jesus is that that with every
other practice, every otherreligion, you have to climb the spiritual
ladder to get to God.
And with Christianity, like,Jesus actually just reaches down
where you are and he grabs youfrom that space.

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And that's what he did.
He reached down and he loved.
He met me there, but he didnot leave me there because he loved
me too much to do it.
But this is how.
I mean, this is how deceived Iwas and just, just how stupid I was
at the time where, where Iknow Jesus has just supernaturally
delivered me from the worstparts of myself, but I think, wow,
okay, great.
Now I can be a Christian astrologer.

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Yeah, this goes full circle.
So for.
Right.
Yeah.
So for about three months, I'mstill doing the podcast, but now
I'm like, okay, how can I makethis About God.
So what I started to do waslike, oh, this new moon is a great
time for you to figure out,like, how you can, like, manifest
God's plan.
So I tried to say, like, it'sGod's plan.
God's plan.
Not your plan anymore.

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It's God's plan.
How can you surrender to God?
Yeah, it's a mixture.
Right?
And so all that stuff.
And, you know, I was a.
I was a real babe in the faith.
I hadn't read Scripture, whichis interesting because people are
reading their Bibles.
Please.
Or they are taking it out of.
Taking it out of contextbecause it's like, look, it says
signs and seasons.
Like, God made the sun and themoon stars for signs and seasons.

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It's like.
Doesn't mean that.
Because if you go to Isaiah47, he basically says, the astrologers
are all going to burn in theirown fire.
So reconcile that for me.
How he loves astrology becauseyou use.
The Bible to interpret the Bible.
That's one of the methods.
And the whole.
The whole teaching onastrology and the Bible with the
wise men, that's a whole otherthing I've talked about.
It's not astrology.

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Just need to make that clear.
But I went on for three monthslike this, and I'm starting to have
a little bit of conviction,but I don't have a word for it.
It.
And so this part of my storyis always important to mention because
I know that there are peoplewatching this and people that watch
my stuff because they knowpeople like I was.
Who are just deeply entrenchedin this stuff.

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And they're like, wow, I wishshe would have a revelation the way
Angela did.
I wish that this person wouldget sa.
And I need you to hear me whenI tell you I was the furthest one
from Christ.
And I had a friend.
I had my best friend Alyssa.
We met when we were inpreschool school.
And she was always, like, therock in my life because I always

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thought she was weird and kindof, like, awkward and, like, boring.
Because she was always the onewhen we would get into trouble.
Like, no, we can't do this thing.
And I'm always the one.
Like, let's go exploreabandoned places.
Like, I literally led us to,like, these abandoned train tracks
and, like, found this wholeabandoned, like, train station.
And there's, like.

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There's like, like humanfeces, like, in.
And I'm like, this is whereI'm taking us.
This is where I'm leading us.
And she's.
And I'm calling Her boringbecause she's trying to get us out
of these situations.
My point in sharing is thatshe had Christ, she had the Holy
Spirit, she had a familyrooted in the Lord.
Her mom even.

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We just saw them the other day.
Her mom telling us when we'relittle because I want to put on demonic
movies in the basement whenwe're having sleepovers.
Her mom sending us the down,explaining to us, I don't want this
in my house.
And me thinking that's stupid,but like getting it now on the other
side and just seeing the waythe Lord's hand was always on her
life, that favor and grace ofprotection, all that to say she was

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praying for me for two, fortwo decades that I would be saved.
Because she saw me go throughthe lust and the partying and the
trauma and the men and thenecromancy, like all the things.
And she just never gave up on me.
Me.
And she never left me, shenever abandoned me.
She just always loved me whereI was.
But she had boundaries where,you know, if she came to the party,
she knew when she needed to leave.

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Yeah, like stuff like that.
And she told me later thatthere was one night she came to one
of my parties where I like hadpassed out completely obliterated
on the bed.
Just like, like to the pointwhere like you're lifting my arm
and I'm like flopping out.
Like I'm just completelydipped out, you know, there.
So she leaves and she said shewas on the way home and she was saying

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like, Lord, like what do I do here?
Like she's so gone.
And she said that she heardGod and she's like, not like this.
Like she's.
She.
She thinks I've gone maybe alittle too far now, but still, still
sisters.
But she, you know, she does.
She's not like this, but shesaid she heard God say, I've got
her.

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And then six months later Icall her and I'm like, hey, I think
I need to give up yoga andastrology in my pocket.
I'm like crying my eyes out onthe phone.
I remember this so vividly.
I'm like, I don't know what'sgoing on, but I need to give up all
this stuff.
Because the night before I wasactually at a bar still.
I'm a Christian now.
I'm at a bar and I had thislike little bit of a buzz.

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I'm at a bar of Christianmaking that clear and, and I had
a friend send me cuz I wasasking him because I had follow,
followed him Online.
He's now a really good friend.
His name is Kevin Tom.
I was asking him, like, hey,is astrology really wrong?
Because, like, you know, Godcreated the sun.
This.
All the arguments that, youknow, you probably get.

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And he sent me back Isaiah 47,that whole thing where God is talking
to the Babylonians and he'ssaying, like, yeah, go ahead, like,
seek out your astrologersthem, because they are going to burn
in their own fire.
I mean, extremely paraphrasing.
But when I read that I hadthis, like, supernatural sobering
in the physical and spiritual,where whatever buzz I had from the
alcohol just completely went away.

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I was, like, sober.
I could.
I just remember that moment so vividly.
Everything around me becamecrystal clear, sharp.
Like 4k just come all around me.
Like, time stopped almost.
And it was the first time Ifelt conviction, like, true conviction.
It was the Holy Spirit.
And that was the revelation ofI'm a sinner.

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That was the first time I evercould bridge that gap before it was.
I knew I had a savior and thiswas the first time I had a Lord where
I knew, oh, wow, I am a sinner.
I have sinned against Jesus,and he loves me, and he actually
died for me.
And that was the moment I waslike, I can't do this.
And Mike was with me and.

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And he's.
We're, like, playing pool.
It's, like, supposed to be anormal night.
And he's like, are you okay?
And I was like, yeah.
Like, I'm just standing therebeing completely, like, bored again
in this moment.
And I was not okay.
And then that's.
The next day I called her.
I'm like, I gotta get rid ofall this stuff.
I don't know.
I don't.
She's like, just come over.
Bring it over.
I go over to her house withall my paraphernalia.
I packed it all up.

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It was like.
It was like literallythousands of dollars and boxes full
of this stuff, of thecrystals, the cards, the books, the
journals.
Like, I used to channel in myjournals and.
And the decorations.
I literally had a Buddha headon almost every wall in my house.
I had a tapestry with a zodiac wheel.
Every wall in my housecompletely branded out to the devil.
Yeah, I take it all to herhouse that night.

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We burn it all, get rid of it all.
I didn't know anything aboutDeliverance, which is why that night
I went home and I was super heavy.
I couldn't even walk up thestairs because I needed them cast
out of me.
I didn't know that yet.
But yeah, I got rid of all of it.
And then, I mean, that was it.
Like, I was just, I was justsold out.
I was sold out to Jesus.

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Yeah.
Like, because I knew he hadbought me with a price finally.
And then, yeah, here I am,like two and a half, almost three
years later, just completelyon fire for God.
I have since been deliveredand like, like, not just set free
in the spirit, but like setfree in my soul.
Yeah.
Because he did deliver me fromall those things.

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But there was still stuff fromthe new age.
It's just I needed to becompletely delivered from, like come
out of complete agreement with.
Yeah, those things were justclinging like little cockroaches.
And that was like a yearlater, after I was, after I was saved,
when I was finally water baptized.
And then when I was waterbaptized, that's like when the Lord

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opened all the doors for deliverance.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So emotional.
I.
Well, you know, I got thisrevelation while you're talking,
so in Isaiah, it says thatthose in astrology, you know, they
will burn in their own fire,but in Acts, chapter two, Christians
burn in the holy fire.
Amen.
So it's like, I think it'sreally about whose fire are you burning

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in?
The one that you made yourselfor the one that God made for us?
And so it's like you exchangethe fire of divination for the fire
of the Holy Spirit.
Spirit.
So it's like we, because weknow we're called to be burning ones.
But.
And, and it's like that's what.
And I felt it like my 10 yearold daughter's over my right shoulder
and she could see your facethe entire time you were talking.

(01:00:03):
And you know, I worry about mydaughters and, and I know that's
not even righteous to worry,but you know, you pray for them and
you.
But sometimes like when you'rea dad, you say all the right things,
but you're the wrong vesselbecause they need to hear it from
someone else.
And like, I don't think it'sstrange that, like, you're my daughter's
favorite YouTuber and so like,I was really emotional.

(01:00:24):
No, I know.
Because like, as a dad, it's like.
Yeah, you think about like thegirls that need to hear the message.
Because, like I'm telling you,we live in New York City and I feel
like I walk my daughterthrough a minefield every day.
Like, we go to the grocerystore and it literally says tarot
cards for kids.
And they have it in theimpulse bisection where she can see

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it and reach It.
And I feel like I'm walking mykid through the.
Through the courts of Babylonevery day, through the courts of
Egypt every day.
And it's like, how do I keepher in this pure white dress when
I have to walk her through mudevery single day?
And.
And so like, I just.
You know, we've been talkingabout how, like in Leviticus, the.
It talks about the lamb that slain.

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And then the Passover story inExodus, the blood's in the basin,
but it says, take a branch ofHisa, you know, dip it in the basin
and apply the blood to the doorpost.
And the whole time you weretelling your story, I kept thinking
about re.
Revelation 3 that says theyovercame by the word of their testimony
in the blood of the Lamb.
And I just.
I'm splattered in blood.

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The whole time you weretalking, I just feel covered in the
blood.
Because you were like thathyssop branch distributing the blood
of Jesus in this broadcast.
And you know, my daughterhearing these words, I feel like
is a deposit in her life.
But the last part of thatscripture in Revelation 3 says, and
they love not their life untodeath, death.
And I feel like there.

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There's something about, like, your.
You.
You and how you live.
It's full surrender.
And.
But it's like they.
A lot of people see your lifenow, they don't know the stages of
surrender because weoftentimes think that surrender,
full surrender, happens in a moment.
But it's like what I heard yousay is that, like, you went through
stages of surrender.
So I feel like in my stomachright now, there's people watching

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that have gone through, like,stages of surrender.
And even.
I kid you not, when we wereeating breakfast earlier, my friend
who's a prophet was literallysending me screenshots of all these
Christian astrologers saying,what do I do with this?
And I feel like you just gave.
The answer is maybe theysurrendered one stage.
They need to surrender more.
Yeah.
You know, so would you mindjust like, kind of taking us into

(01:02:32):
a ministry moment?
But before you do, the lastthing I wanted to say is your friend
who prayed for you, you.
I've been feeling called tocall the body of Christ to.
To that level of prayer.
And I believe that thisbroadcast is an invitation for people
to say so maybe you'rewatching this and you know you are
saved and you are fullysurrendered, but maybe there's people

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in your life that it's timefor you to begin to pick up a burden
of prayer like never before.
I want to join you.
We're even going to be prayingon this channel a lot.
So make sure that you're.
You're in with.
With us on that.
But you're a product of that.
And so I just want to give youan opportunity just to minister to
people for a moment.
I'll step back and just takeyour time, because there's something
so profound that's happeningthrough the spirit right now.

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And I know that there's manywho probably even got this video
because someone shared it to them.
It was like, you need to watch this.
But they're sitting there andthe Holy Spirit's confirming, like,
this is the truth.
Yeah.
Well, I do just want to firstsay that.
That exactly what Pastor Mikeis saying, do not.
Do not cease prayer for them.
Like the Bible says that weare to pray ceaselessly.

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So for those of you that havethat friend or that loved one, pray
ceaselessly.
Because my salvation is notonly the product of her prayer, but
my husband's salvation is theproduct of her prayer and my prayers.
And this is just.
This is the.
The.
The domino revival.
This is what prayer does.
Because the Lord says that hehears the prayers of the righteous,

(01:03:59):
and it is not his will thatany man should perish.
So you can actually, actuallypray in faith that they will be saved.
You don't have to beg him.
You can just thank him inadvance for their salvation, which
is exactly what I did with the.
With the man that is now my husband.
And so I just want to givethat word for you that you do not
be discouraged, because thedevil is a liar and he comes to steal,

(01:04:20):
kill, and destroy.
So don't let him do any of theabove to your faith or your love
for your friend.
And when you think that it's amoot point to pray or it's pointless
to pray, just know that theonly one that doesn't want you to
pray is the one who's afraidof your prayer prayers.
And that's the enemy.
And so now, for those of youthat are watching this, you were
sent this by that friend orthat loved one.

(01:04:40):
And if you've made it thisfar, it's because that this is landing
on fertile soil.
And what the enemy does whenthat seed lands, he comes to snatch
it.
So I just encourage you tostay for this prayer.
Don't let him snatch that seedfrom you.
Let that just really settle.
Let it settle and let theLord, Lord just fertilize it and

(01:05:00):
let it grow.
Because I want to tell you.
I want to tell your daughter.
I want to tell everyone that there's.
That Jesus is the only one whocan heal you.
He's the only one that canmake you free.
He is salvation.
His name is salvation.
He is the deliverer.
And that verse you love, not your.

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You overcome the evil one bythe blood of the lamb, the word of
their testimony.
And I love that you emphasizethe last part because so many people
don't.
It's just like the Lamb, theblood of the lamb and the testimony.
But that last part you lovenot your own life.
It's truly.
When you.
There is so much freedom andtruly not being your own anymore.
When he just truly has you andyou're completely free of yourself

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because that is bondage.
That's why the new age is allobsessed with yourself.
That's why the world isobsessed with, with self help, self
saving.
It's because self is the shackle.
Okay?
Jesus is the one that makesyou free because he actually takes
your life and gives you hislife in you.
So God, I just pray right nowthat anyone that is hearing this,

(01:06:07):
even if it's a year from nowwhen they find this video.
Lord, you know every singleperson who is going to watch this
video.
You know their heart, you knowtheir life because you knit them
together and you love themdearly and you're calling them home
to yourself.
You're.
You're drawing them in.
The word of God says that theycannot come unless you are the one
drawing.
And that's what this is.
You are drawing them andyou're saying, I love you and I see

(01:06:30):
you and I don't want you tosuffer anymore.
You don't have to do this onyour own.
This torment is not for me.
This is not my will for your life.
I love you.
Would you just let me have you?
God just wants to have you.
You, but he is too polite tojust grab you.
That's why we have free will.
He's too polite to just takeyou for his own.
He wants you to actually cometo him, to surrender in faith.

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Because it is by grace,through faith that we are saved.
So would you just surrenderyour faith to Jesus Christ?
Would you just tell him rightnow, Lord, I don't know what this
looks like.
I don't know what this is.
I don't know what this means.
But I want to give my life toyou, Lord, I just lay down every
sin that I have evercommitted, every known and unknown
sin.
God, I just give that to youand I ask for your forgiveness.

(01:07:14):
In fact, I thank you for your forgiveness.
God, I thank you forforgiveness Lord, that you forgave
me even while I was still asinner and just renounce these practices.
Maybe you need to pause thevideo and go through some things
that you've been doing.
You need to renounce theastrology and the reiki and the tarot
and the Holy Spirit will beginto just minister these things that
you've been doing.
Maybe you don't even know knowis witchcraft that, that you have

(01:07:37):
in your house.
Even things that you need toget rid of after this video ends
and you renounce all of this stuff.
You repent for all of this stuff.
And so just know that in yourrepentance you are forgiven.
That's what's so different.
One of the most differentthings about Jesus from all this
new age stuff is that all youneed to do is confess and, and he's
done it.

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You have to understand thework on the cross is finished.
He has done it already.
You don't have to do anything.
This is just the confession of faith.
This is.
You just need to receive hislove and receive his forgiveness.
And it's so different from thenew age stuff because you're constantly
trying to fulfill it.
He has fulfilled it.
You just have to receive it.
So I pray right now, Father,that you would give them a revelation

(01:08:19):
and outpouring of your love,God, I pray that the love would just
overflow.
That you would just douse themin the blood of the lamb, God, that
you would just douse the themin the perfect precious blood of
Jesus Christ.
That you would wash themcompletely clean.
That you would wash them, Lord.
Your word says white as snowof every transgression, Lord.

(01:08:40):
And I thank you God that youthat that they are healed by your
stripes, Lord, whatever it isyou're going through in the physical
and the emotional and the mental.
Lord, I pray right now forhealing in Jesus, Jesus name.
I command all depression andanxiety in the mighty name of Jesus
to go right now.

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In Jesus name, all anxiety anddepression must flee.
In Jesus name we submit to thethe power, love and sound mind that
comes from God.
Fear does not come from God.
That is a spirit.
The Bible says.
And anxiety and depressionsare byproducts of, of fear.
That is not of God, that isnot his will from your life.

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That is the enemy's assignmentto destroy you.
God longs to restore you andbring you peace and love.
And so we thank you, LordJesus, that you are the prince of
peace.
Lord, would you just wash themover with your peace right now, God,
would you let it be a tangibleexperience to them that they would
feel your peace, that theywould know your peace, that it would

(01:09:45):
be actually noticeable,possibly so much different than anything
else they have ever experienced.
Thank you, Jesus Christ.
We love you so much, Lord.
And so I just pray that everyform of divination and witchcraft,
your zodiac sign, justrenounce your zodiac sign.
Every demon under the zodiacwheel, every demon that came in through
Reiki, every demon that camein through the tarot cards, every

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demon that came in through,through, through Reiki and.
And Lord, what else?
Through meditation in Jesusname, through yoga, every yoga spirit.
I command all these spiritsunder the sound of my voice, that
came in through new agepractice to go in Jesus name, to
go right now in the mightyname of Jesus.
And if you need moredeliverance after this, if this is

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not the full thing right now,that's okay.
It happens in layers.
Like Pastor Mike said, thereare stages and you can go seek out
a good church, a good pastorlocally or even more videos online
to get the freedom that youneed through Jesus Christ.
But right now we just praythat the Holy Spirit would come and
fill you.
Just a baptism of the HolySpirit right now.

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Thank you Lord.
Would you just baptize themwith fire and the Holy Spirit?
Thank you God.
Thank you Jesus.
And if you're listening tothis, your next step, you must be
water baptized.
It is a command.
You must, must be water baptized.
You must lay that old man inthe watery grave because you don't
want to carry a corpse on your back.
You must lay that corpse inthe watery grave.

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Thank you Jesus.
Lord, I pray right now thatthey would have dreams and visions
of you, of your love, that youwould speak to them.
That whatever giftings,whatever spiritual giftings that
the devil has been trying topervert in the new age, Lord, I pray
that you would redeem it foryour kingdom, for your glory.
Because every spiritual quotegift of the new age is a demonic

(01:11:36):
counterfeit of what the.
Of the godly authentic thatcan only come from the Holy Spirit.
Lord, I pray against, I prayagainst religion in Jesus name.
I pray that this, Lord, youwould protect this person right now
from going into the oppositedirection on the the other side of
the pendulum.
It's a dead religion, Lord.
I pray protection from thatright now.
I pray that you would protecttheir eyes and ears from false teachers

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that preach a cessationistgospel in Jesus name.
I pray protection over themright now.
And Lord, I just thank you forthe work that you are faithful to
complete in this, in this sonor daughter of God.
We Love you Lord.
We bless you.
We honor you in Jesus name.
Amen.
Amen.
Amen.
Oh, so powerful guys.
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(01:12:22):
And I can cannot thank youenough for just like pouring your
life and just ministering so deeply.
This has been, honestly, I, Ifeel like the testimonies that we
see on the other side of thisare going to, like you said, for
years and years, like, youknow, the Bible says put a stone
here for remembrance.
And I feel like you left astone in New York City, like a stone

(01:12:42):
of remembrance, you know, andI feel like the grace just to narrate
this a little bit.
Are we still good on, on tape?
But like, I feel like thesignificance of this is we are in
New York City.
New York City is one of themost influential, if not the most
influential cities of the world.
And there's something aboutthe, in some ways like being at the,

(01:13:03):
these demonic altars here.
And for you to do and say whatyou did from this place was so significant
and so thank you for putting astone of remembrance.
You know, it's like when youdrive through the streets here, it
says psychic media medium, youknow, yoga, reiki healing everywhere
here.
But I believe in the spiritualrealm, there's a stone that you left

(01:13:24):
that people will say, what,what is that?
That's what God could do witha surrendered life.
So thank you so much.
I'm wrecked.
I need to blow my nose.
Yeah, there's a New Age Exodusright now.
Yeah, there is.
But you have like a Moses.
I know, I've heard you saythat multiple times.
If there's a New age inExodus, you're Moses.
Yeah.
The one thing I want to say isthat it's because they're hungry

(01:13:44):
for the truth.
And I always say that's likethey're getting all the little, all
the little lowercase T, truth.
And just because they'relooking for the capital T, because
that's his name.
His name is Truth.
Jesus's name is Truth.
So they're looking for him.
And I, I really believe God'sdoing something with it right now,
that the devil has overplayedhis hand.
That's it all he always does.
Well, and the other thing toois like with the lowercase T versus

(01:14:06):
capital T is C.
And you will find exactly.
So they're seeking soruthlessly and it is leading to Christ.
But then we also know religionis a form of godliness that denies
the power thereof.
And so they, they need to know.
There is power for another day.
I know there's people probablyright now cleaning up the vomit from
the deliverance you just did.
And they're just like, whoa,that was not something I ever experienced

(01:14:29):
in my church growing up.
And because maybe youexperience a form of godliness, but
what it denied the power thereof.
And so welcome to the winning side.
Welcome to the family of Christ.
We're so glad you're here.
And, man, we'll also link toyour channel, so that way you guys
can just go.
She's got so many incredibleteachings, and she can just go more
in depth.

(01:14:49):
So make sure you go overthere, subscribe, and follow her
on her on socials.
And this is the first, but notthe final time that we minister together.
So my show is called Heavenand Healing Pox Podcast.
It's not like you'll find meif you type in my name, but it's
called Heaven and Healing Podcast.
It was very specific that Godhas given me that.
That it was prophetic, and hewon't let me release it.

(01:15:09):
Like, I know it would beeasier for me to just be like Angela
Marie Scafiti acrosseverything, but I got the word for
heaven and healing because myold podcast was called Moon and Back.
And when I was making a newpodcast, God put that on my heart.
I want you to share yourtestimony and have people like you
on the show.
I said, well, what.
What is it supposed to becalled called?
And he said, well, we're.
We're not just going in themoon like you're.
This is heaven, and it'sheaven and healing.

(01:15:31):
I love it.
So it.
Because it's not my ministry,it's his.
That's it.
This is about.
This is about salvation.
Heaven and then healing isabout the deliverance and the walking
in the freedom.
Yeah, completely.
I didn't know it was propheticwhen he gave me the name, but I see
it now.
So good.
I kept thinking about that scripture.
Whom the sun sets free is free.
Indeed.
Indeed.
Yeah, indeed.
And that's what it is.

(01:15:52):
It's like New Age is freedom,but not free.
Indeed.
And you keep going on thathamster wheel and it feels like freedom
momentarily, but it's morebondage over the long run.
But then what happens is yougo through Christ and it's free.
Indeed.
So, yeah, we'll link to thatand we'll have it all there.
Guys, we love you so much.
I am just so excited.
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