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Ever wondered why you get more compliments when you're dressed down rather than dolled up? Join us as we, Styles and Bless Jess, sip on some Jack Daniels Winter Jack and homemade tea while diving into the dynamics of receiving compliments from men. Jess shares her frustration over the effort women put into looking nice only to have it go unnoticed, leading us into an open discussion about natural beauty, self-esteem, and the complexities of these seemingly trivial interactions.

Hold on to your hats as we then venture into the bewildering world of fashion runways and advertisements. Why do models look so joyless, and what's up with their awkward poses? We compare these fashionistas to mannequins in the mall, questioning the lack of diversity and the bizarre power dynamics in the fashion industry. This conversation takes an interesting twist as we explore the cultural use of the term "pause" among men and women, shedding light on how it helps avoid misunderstandings.

Next up, we get real about the difficulties of maintaining relationships over time and distance. Whether it's the tendency to withdraw for self-evaluation or the necessity of a strong support system, we discuss the importance of transparency and genuine connections. Finally, we chat about how our tastes in music and entertainment evolve with age, reflecting on personal growth and the pressures artists face to stay relevant. And as we prepare for an upcoming trip to New York, we highlight the value of family and the irreplaceable nature of genuine connections. Tune in for a humorous, heartfelt, and insightful conversation!

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
you are now rocking with the brunch hour podcast,
the best hour of the day it'sthe only podcast I listen to
with your host styles.
I like my pet red bone, flatcello, light skin yellow.
Listen, I'm still trying tofigure out how to start the show
officially Three seasons inActually no, two seasons in to

(00:27):
the new transition and all ofthat, and I still can't get it
together.
But it's all right though.
Listen, you got the Leo DreamTeam today, hey.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Jordan with the Bulls Jordan with the Bulls.
Rodman and Jordan in thebuilding.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
That's right 23.
Now me Now me, tell them whoyou are.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I am Bless Jess.
Y'all know who I am.
If y'all know him, y'all knowme by default.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
That was a Leo statement.
They know who I am.
That's right they do.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
If you are new to the game you might not, but if
you've been around and I'mpretty sure a lot of people have
been around for a while, theywould know who I am.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
You've been in the orbit.
Hold on, let's do this.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
I used to be in love with this bitch named MJ.
The fuck with her, no more.
Now I fuck with Tango Ray,Tango Ray.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Hey yo, Black Thunder , we need two shots, it's a
combo.
Yeah, no, we're taking it back.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
We're taking it back because what we're going to do
and what we haven't been doing,I'm just going to introduce the
drink.
Listen, I hate the fuckingsummer, but I do have Jack
Daniels Winter Jack, and it'sthe Spiced Apple Punch and I
don't like it.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
but it's all I have.
Hey, look the way the bottle ishalf gone.
The lie detector determinedthat was a lie.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Somebody been drinking this motherfucker Now.
We had a bunch of people overyesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
I blame it on the random people that ain't here
today.
Yeah, that too.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
The randos, you know Shout-outs to Lamp, shout-outs
to Ryan and shout-outs to Shadra.
They all have PTO.
Yeah, they all have PTO today.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Okay, what you drinking?
I am drinking a blend of teathat I personally made.
It's some greens, some rosesand some lavender.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Why you looking at me like you're lying?
Because the fuck this shit justsound like straight contraband.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
I mean, it's the truth.
I just don't know.
I'll just leave it to thecolors.
Okay, the colors.
I'm drinking some colors rightnow.
Green, rose and lavender.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
All right.
Well, I'm about to playsomething.
I need some answers.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Let's go All right cool.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
You niggas scare me sometimes.
Y'all really do.
I'm dressed like this Oversizedshirt, hat, shorts.
Niggas are still hollering Likewhat's good with y'all.
Yo, it just happened again,like scared, like what the fuck?
I'm not even showing my bodynothing and it's I'm getting.

(03:12):
The way I'm getting cat calledis insane.
Like why am I getting more guystrying to talk to me and
approach me just like this?
Then I do when I'm actuallylike done up and like what you,
nigga.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
I had enough of that.
Yeah, enough of that.
I had to take us off mute.
Um, she wilding.
There's nothing to talk aboutshe wilding.
So my question is this, right?
First of all, I don't evenunderstand why she's offended,
because she has sweatpants on abaggy t-shirt, a hat and some
headphones and somebody's tryingto talk to her, so she's

(03:52):
offended by that.
Explain that to me okay.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
So, from a female's point of view, I don't think
she's offended.
I think she's irritated becauseand frustrated because, as she
said, when she puts effort intolooking nice, they don't do
anything, they don't sayanything, they're intimidated
right when she actually putseffort into putting clothes, on
putting her makeup, on doing herhair and she probably just

(04:17):
getting out of work where shelooking.
She probably just getting outof work, no, she came from the
gym.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Look like she's okay from doing something like.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
So I think it's probably frustrating as a woman
to know that sometimes yourefforts aren't appreciated.
Like we like to look nice.
We would want you to.
Let me ask you a question, sure.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
How do you take compliments?
How do you make somebody rollup on you and just be like hey,
I mean nothing crass, nothingroll up on you, just be like hey
, you look, I mean not nothingcrass, nothing crazy right.
But how do you?
How do you take them if?

Speaker 3 (04:50):
you got on baggy sweats.
Yeah, go ahead like if I'm, ifI'm done either way.
Either way I'll say thank you,or if I'm looking like that,
I'll be like nigga but why?

Speaker 1 (04:59):
but why?

Speaker 3 (04:59):
her face is not beat, but she's not ugly she, she's
not, but I guess I'm trying tobe like.
This is my Libra Moon thing,trying to balance out the
opinion.
But I guess to a man's creditit's like damn, I see you not
even trying and you look good.
Let me just say something.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Hey, fucking man, that's exactly where I was going
with this.
Okay, that's where I'm goingwith this.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
But maybe she doesn't think that she's sweating.
She just finished working.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
I don't have time for female self esteem and that's
probably what it is if you gotself esteem problems.
I'm trying to uplift you, causeyou out here feeling like you,
walking around looking likeMissy in a fucking hefty bag,
and I'm telling you like mom,but you might be the one nah,
she was going a little heavywith it she said she was going a

(05:47):
little heavy with it.
She said she was scared.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah, I wouldn't go that heavy with it Not to say
that I'm scared, but I'dprobably be like my guy ain't
got nothing on, but thank you.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
She said you guys scare me.
No, that's a little bit tooextreme of a she.
Act like she outside walkingaround dripping a garbage juice.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
If she's had a prior experience or something, then
use those type of words, but wedon't have any frame of
reference to why you're usingthat.
So if you're just using that ingeneral, I think that's the
wrong term to use.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
So are we free to go.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah, because she overdid it with that.
I think so too.
I think it was overdone.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Honestly, I want to know what y'all think, though
you.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Honestly, I want to know what y'all think, though
you know, I hear what Jesssaying, so Jess, you ever walk
outside looking crazy Veryrarely, but you do, though it's
happened, though it has happened.
Right.
I get people looking, but Idon't.
If I'm looking crazy outside,it's because I'm on a mission,
Like I got some shit that Iain't had time to get ready to
go.
I need to hurry up and get someshit and get the fuck back home
.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
I ain't going to hold you though.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
You look unapproachable.
That a motherfucking bitch Do I?

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
I've heard that often too.
And then when motherfuckerstalk to me, they be like, well,
goddamn why you just Nah, nigga,what's setting is this, though,
but maybe Is somebody takingyour order.
Do I look unapproachable now I?

Speaker 1 (07:02):
don't know.
You don't open up your mouth,Paws, and you just doing your
thing.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
So can we talk about that real quick?
Why is Paws so important toyour vernacular?
It's not Because you don't missany instant of when Paws is
supposed to be inserted.
I've been waiting for two days.
You have not missed a beat.
That shit is weird.
Like it's a talent actually.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
I think it's a New York thing.
You know, some people may saythat you know what I mean, I'm
insecure, or niggas that say itis insecure, and they just, you
know, it's like an affirmationof just being on that side of
things.
For me, it's not so much thatwhen I say shit you might just
enter the conversation and nothear what I said prior to that,

(07:50):
so I gotta pause it.
So I don't want you.
Yeah, I don't have to pause itand I know no all right, so your
finger be on the pause button.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Now, that's a fact now.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Real shit.
I just need to grow up.
But I'm not trying to, and ifyou are offended or annoyed at
me saying pause, not youspecifically, but fuck you.
It's really that simple.
It's just a very interestingobservation, because you said it
maybe like 69 times, but everytime I said it, though, you was
like yeah, that shit was crazy,like the shit you just said was

(08:20):
crazy, you know.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
You know what a double entendre is right.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
So I could see why pause would be used because of a
double entendre situation butif somebody knows you do you
still like?
It's habitual at this point.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
It's habitual.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
It's habitual that shit is just a talent.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
It was so crazy.
It's like all right in certainplaces in New York if you go and
you say something and you don'tpause it, niggas be like hey,
yo, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
They'll be like niggas will do that.
Leslie says it's just likesaying it's fun.
No, it's not, I can hear it'sfun.
Do y'all still say it's justlike saying son?
No, it's not, I can hear son.
Do y'all still say son?

Speaker 1 (09:05):
We do, but it's how we say it.
So, first of all and I learnedthis way back, it's not S-O-N,
it's actually S-U-N.
So and because I had a problemwith niggas calling me son,
because when I was growing upit's like oh, this nigga's
sunning you is disrespectful.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Right.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Right, but then of course we switch it, as we so
often do, so it's not S-O-N,it's S-U-N, S-U-N, rather, you
know.
So it's kind of like a term ofendearment.
You know what I mean.
It's not I'm not putting youbeneath me when I say sun Now
Okay.
Back then yeah, but now no,it's not that.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
How is the rest of the country supposed to know
that the meeting?

Speaker 1 (09:44):
changed?
We don't give a fuck.
We don't give a fuck.
There are five boroughs in NewYork and we all talk a different
language.
We all speak different.
How are we supposed to know?
I mean, I got you, got to befrom there, you know.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
All right.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Noted.
No, main course, it's time toeat.
What's on your mind?

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Had a lot on that, so I'm going to let you get to the
first, the honorary.
You know that thing right there, so I'm going to let you pull
up the first topic.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Look, I just want to read this comment real quick.
My homegirl, leslie shot outthe last on the West Coast.
Dolomite too.
I did not know this nigga wasin.
California.
That is wild.
But she said she had a wildpause moment.
She said I touched a dude'sbooty during sexy time and he
said pause loud as fuck.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
See, now that's that's a little, that's going
extra.
You're supposed to set themboundaries way before you even
get to touch that booty.
You're supposed to know, like,stay away from that, but that's
hilarious.
Ask him if that session wasover after that.
Did he stop as soon as?
Nah, well, did y'all stop I?

Speaker 3 (10:53):
would hope that he wouldn't, because, god damn,
just go with it Talking aboutthat's a whole comedy session at
that point.
It ain't a she's.
I mean if you in the moment,and you urging it on cool, it
want a finger.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
It wasn't.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Well, you got to ask her.
I would hope it want a finger.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
You got to ask her.
Make sure it wasn't a finger.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Unless, I need more than these emojis.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
I need a yes or a no.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Like, if it want a finger, nigga be quiet, just go
with it.
Okay, so, we'll it, just gowith it.
Um, okay, so you can pick anyof those, okay, okay so this is
fucking hilarious, like the factthat this is on the screen as
well.
Um, there's a question and itsays please explain the model
pose.
Why are you slumped in poorposture?

Speaker 1 (11:40):
during the.
I need to know niggas be posing.
They like when you see the shitthey be, like this and that
shit is cute, like why?
is that cute Okay so dudes, bothoh you can't even say dudes or
women, because what they do Isthey cross gender the shit.
So dudes are looking likechicks and chicks are looking
like Dudes are looking likechicks and chicks are looking

(12:03):
like Y'all don't even have anyspace.
There's no space for y'allanymore.
There's no space for femalesbecause dudes is encroaching on
your territory.
Let's get back to the posing,because we about to go straight
left.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
I'm trying to think of myself Like I feel like my
poses be upright with hellaposture.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
But I'm talking about like the Givenchy and shit like
that, like the shows.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Oh, like real models.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
I was listen, I was scrolling, I was scrolling,
there was an ad.
I seen the ad and it was likefor models Everybody's like that
shit is not cute, thoughthere's nothing about that makes
me want to buy your shit.
Professional models.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Why do we even?

Speaker 1 (12:45):
call them professional models, Like who
put them in position to callthat shit professional?

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yo my nigga.
When I be looking at the runwayshows I be looking like who
picked these?
Who are these niggas?

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Who are these niggas Exactly?
Who are these niggas?

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Who are these niggas?
Stay away from these niggas.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
No, it's a big fact.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Like and I guess because we're so used to seeing
a diverse group of like.
I like my people because we'reall shades sizes and when you
look at these clothes they bebaggy as fuck on the smallest
people with the stupidestlooking faces.
They be looking miserable asfuck.
They be looking like they hatelife, all of them.
I don't think any model has everlooked like they liked what

(13:26):
they were doing, but as far aswhen I was about to say that was
an awkward pause, Because I'mthinking like I'm trying to
think of like a magazine, andwhen I flip through the pages
I'm looking at just the spread,the outfit, the advertisement,
and they do be looking crazy asshit it be some awkward ass like
Pinocchio on a string type of.

(13:47):
And maybe that's what the fuckit is.
We post you my bitch, so yougot to do what the fuck I tell
you to do.
That was crazy.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Like Pinocchio is Geppetto bitch Like you do what
I tell you to do.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
You my puppet, you my puppet, you do what I tell you
to do, and I feel like thatmight be like A subconscious
Little power Power trippy shitFrom the photographer or from
the director.
Cause, why, why, I just can'tstand Like I'm at the family
reunion.
That's a big fact.
Why I gotta be Boxed the fuckup and bent the hell up and
uncomfortable, looking To sellthese jeans.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Big fact.
I'm over here doing like eightdifferent things right now.
I need to get both of thosedone.
I'm gonna work that out.
So boom, that's where we atwith it.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
But so I think this, I think I was just confused
about the question Because itdidn't say professional.
I'm thinking just the modelpose In general, like the hood
nigga pose or the jail pose,could be a model pose, I'm
thinking.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
I wasn't thinking professional.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
I'm talking about yeah't thinking professional.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
You talking about people that get paid and food
out to model clothes, yeah, 42ndStreet billboards and shit,
that shit and I don't understandit.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Or maybe they're trying to compact all of these
motherfuckers into the smallestframe possible, so they got the
control.
I'll take this shit a stepfurther.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
What about the mannequins?
The mannequins even lookfucking crazy.
Crazy, maybe like this and shit.
What the fuck is that?
It's like a fucking kung fumovie Crab technique.
That shit look crazy.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
It does you stupid as hell.
Not the mannequins.
Look so it was a mall inNorfolk.
That shit closed.
Shout out to Jennifer, Shoutout to Military Circle.
We used to go in the mall andit's the hood mall and I feel
like people Would go in thereand fuck with the mannequins and

(15:35):
I feel like the employees.
Wouldn't know it and we'd justgo in there, motherfucker, and
hold on, let me add you to myMotherfucking God.
Hold on, let me add you to mymotherfucking God.
Damn it, you ready what?

Speaker 1 (15:46):
you want.
No, I'm on out.
What you want, what you want.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Should I do that?
Would it be too much?

Speaker 1 (15:53):
I think you're doing a lot.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
I'm doing a lot.
Okay, I'ma not do a lot.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
I think you're doing a lot.
I'ma not Continue your talktrack.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
But yeah, we used to go up in the mall.
We used to go up in the malland the mannequins be like
grabbing balls and like ifthey're next to each other,
that's a pause moment.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Okay, you should say pause, you got to pause it.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Why I'm not a dude.
Females, don't give a fuckabout that.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Do females?

Speaker 3 (16:14):
say pause in New York .

Speaker 1 (16:16):
The ones in the Bronx do.
Are they like niggas?

Speaker 3 (16:20):
I am from Charlotte, north Carolina.
You know, new Yorkers, don'tcome to me.
That's all I have.
Do females usually say pause,they do.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Not like we say pause , but yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Y'all have a lot more instances when it's relevant.
We don't give a fuck.
We be seeing titties boo-dooLike we don't be giving a fuck.
We see that shit all the timeWith our friends.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
We don't care.
But see, it doesn't impact youthe way it impacts us when we
don't say it.
You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
I mean, but is that an insecurity problem too?
It's not an insecurity.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
I told you I have two middle fingers in the mouth and
I'm like fuck you.
And then I don't give a fuckwhat you think.
I said it nigga.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
I said it.
I'm just saying like if yousecuring your life and somebody
misunderstands something you say, that's not your fault.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, but the thing is I'm trying to stave that off.
I'm cutting that shit off atthe pass.
So before you even think it,nigga, I'm telling you what team
I'm playing for All right.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
So that's what I'm saying.
But if they know you what thefuck?
All right.
But okay, All right.
It's habitual at this point Allright Like an Aggie, ass Aggies
so.
So I gotta learn to pause, okay?
Nah, you ain't.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
You don't have to pause, but yeah, it was just a
pause moment.
I just wanted to point that out.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yeah, I'm just saying , like females don't have a real
reason to use it.
Nah, you don't, you don't.
But again, like I said, becauseof the conversation we had
earlier, I'm just giving youthat, I'll let you man your
security, I'll let you guardthat.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
It has nothing to do with any of that.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Yo, I be watching Mason Cam and them niggas like
this and it's fucking.
But if they forget it, it'slike social media murder for
them.
Like nigga you should haveadded the pause Like what Is
that important?

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Because you got to understand.
This is what we come from.
It's kind of like if I go toNew Orleans and somebody has
like a Keechee accent, you knowwhat I mean.
It's Creole or Creole, I meanwhatever.
I'm not from that.
So I'm speaking purely fromignorance right now.
But the pause and all of that,I'm from that, okay.
So I don't expect anybodyoutside of that to understand

(18:16):
that.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
No, I get that.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Nor am I here to educate anybody on why I don't
give a fuck For real.
Give a fuck For real.
I'm going to say it.
You know it is lightweight andmature and I do need to grow up,
but not today.
I'm not growing up today.
Go ahead, Clearly it's mybirthday mom.
Go ahead, it is Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Happy early birthday.
I feel like this is my belatedbirthday present and it's
probably your early one 100%,100%, that's how it worked out.
This has been a long timecoming for sure you my birthday
present you, big brother.
Can we get to the next?
I'm being a little sister here.
Next topic how do you maintainbonds after a significant amount

(19:01):
of time has passed, or throughdistance, like what are some
ways you kind of maintain thebonds you've built?

Speaker 1 (19:08):
It's bugged out because I'm a recluse Like, and
it's good and bad and, in a lotof situations, highly
unfortunate, because when I pullback, I don't necessarily
always pull back becausesomething was done to me.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Sometimes I'll pull back because I need to
reevaluate the shit that I'mdoing and how I'm being viewed
and what I'm projecting.
If that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
So I guess to me it feels like so like if I feel
like I'm being worrisome tosomebody or if I feel like I'm
overdoing it, I'll pull back.
Nobody has said anything,nobody has complained, nobody
has made mention of it.
But when it comes to meevaluating myself, like, uh,
jessica, you might be doing toomuch.
Chill out.
Is that what it is?
Nobody has complained, nobodyhas said you're doing too much,

(19:57):
you just feel.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
You got to feel it yeah because I could be going
through some shit in life andyou have nothing to do with that
.
You've been a party to that.
Yeah, you've been a party tothat.
Like something will happen andI'll pivot and just not pick up
the phone and it wasn't just foryou, it was everybody Like I
literally went into that spaceand was like I'm not talking

(20:22):
Again.
Like I said, you've been a partyto that, you know.
Coming out of that, I'm sorry,go ahead, no, go ahead.
Coming out of that and thentrying to reconnect was
difficult because when I left,we had business dealings and I
had just like, literally lefteverything on the table.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
So is it difficult for you?
If y'all don't know, I'm atherapist, so I be, I think,
different.
I ask different types ofquestions Cause my, it's just
what I do.
I don't be trying to therapizenobody, I just speak like this
and found a way to get paid forit.
But do you find it hard toallow?
I tell my clients this all thetime.
Support is a noun and a verb,so if I'm your support, you got

(21:02):
to allow me to do it.
Is it hard for you to allowyour support to support?
You gotta allow me to do it.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Is it hard for you to allow your support, to support
you when it's time to besupported 100.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
How can you call your support your support?

Speaker 1 (21:09):
then, if we can't do it, a lot of times they send the
cops to the door hey I meanit's.
It's sometimes that drastic.
You know, I've gotten the timethat I basically separated
myself from the world again.
You've been a party to that.
I got numerous texts like yoI'm going to send a wellness
check and that would bring meout for like two seconds just to

(21:32):
be like yo, relax.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
So the bonds that you do have and appreciate, what do
you do to maintain them?
What do you do to show love orappreciation, even if there's a
distance or it's been asignificant amount of time?

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Listen, everybody that I love I'm transparent with
, Like they know fully well howI feel and why I feel that way.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Right, and it's twofold because I do it one
because you do need to know, andI also do it because I need you
to understand my emotionalstate and my bond with you.
So if you go left, youunderstand you're going to think
about it before you do thatbecause you're like, oh, this
nigga feels this type of way.
If I do that, that shit mightbe, crossing him.
You know what I mean, so that'swhy I do it as well okay, I

(22:20):
guess, for me I'm like a supertalk.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
I'm the opposite, though.
I'm like a super talker.
I'm the opposite, though.
I feel like sometimes I'mextroverted as a defense
mechanism, because I don't wantpeople asking me questions.
I will reach out and do themost so that people don't ask or
people don't worry, even if Idon't want to be bothered.
I'll still try to maintain acertain level of communication

(22:44):
with people, because I don'twant people to know what the
fuck going on or something'sgoing on, if that's, even If any
of that made sense.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
No, it did.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
But um, but yeah, okay, just a question I had.
I know some people find it hardto bounce back or pick up where
they're left off.
Some people take shit personal.
If you know you ain't did shitto nobody and somebody makes the
pivot, why take it to the heartIf you know that people go

(23:16):
through shit and sometimes youjust got to be understanding
Because a lot of people pretendto know you.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
That's why and I feel like I've been a lot of, I've
been around a lot of people likethat and I've also killed a lot
of relationships because ofthat.
You know what I mean Like don'tpretend to know me.
I hate that shit.
Like either you know me or youdon't know me, that's a good one
.
But don't pretend to know me,right, meaning, if I'm not even

(23:42):
in the room and you're talkingabout me and you're like, oh no,
he doesn't.
Like that, don't fucking knowme.
I can go with that.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
I feel that way.
You got a lot of people aroundthat can pretend.
I'm surprised you even gotpeople that can pretend.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
You already know I don't have any friends.
You got a battle axe over there.
No friends.
Heads everywhere have anyfriends.
You got a battle axe over there.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
No, I don't have no friends.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Heads everywhere, heads rolling, zero friends
Heads are rolling, so I'll pivotinto what are some things you
find yourself outgrowing as youget older.
Do you find that it's wild?
Like damn.
I used to really fuck with thatshit, like I ain't fucking with
it no more.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, cartoons Really .
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
All of them Like nothing animated whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
It's funny because I'm a little bit more nostalgic
as far as that's you knowconcerned.
Okay, so like things gonnastart cracking up, listen, let
me before.
Let me preface this with mybirthday is on Tuesday.
I will be 50 years old, so anyof that, that nigga old suck my
dick.
So this the thing.
Yes, I am Pray that you gethere One day.

(24:48):
That was my defense.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Absolutely, that was my defense mechanism.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Absolutely Too many ain't making it, but no, this
the thing Like Fuck, what wasthe Flintstones, the Jetsons,
shit like that.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
You made plenty Rubble references yesterday.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
You did have because you had the Barney Rubbles out.
Yo Jay had the Barney Rubblesout.
Yesterday when I seen him hereyou had the Gucci slides on.
This nigga had plenty jokes.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
So you don't even watch anything.
You never done anime, you neverbeen into that.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
I can't get Well Robotech Like.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Dragon Ball.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Z Nah Robotech was my form of Anime, because it was
and it wasn't really anime.
Basically it was just Japanesemade cartoons.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
I don't even know what the fuck that is.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Voltron.
Okay, alright.
So Robotech actually came outAfter that, you know, and it was
just kind of like A whole Afterthat.
You know, it was just kind oflike a whole.
I think everything elsefollowed, like Pokemon and shit.
I don't fuck with.
Yeah, I couldn't fuck with noneof that.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Not even just like.
So I'll give you one of mine,and this probably might be like
it ain't trying to be profound,but I feel like I've started to
outgrow my own bullshit, LikeI've started to like outgrow
some stupid shit that I used todo.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
No, I need specifics.
That shit just sound crazy.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Do it.
So now I don't lose my temper.
I've outgrown fussing.
I've outgrown unhealthycommunication.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
I've outgrown I like the way you put that.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
I've outgrown settling for shit just to have
people around.
I've outgrown the need forvalidation.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
I've outgrown I can say some silly shit.
You have not outgrown the needfor validation.
I promise you that.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
But go ahead, it sounds good though I've eased up
on it, I don't need it as badas I feel like I used to Like.
I've outgrown shit like chickennuggets.
Like a grown-ass motherfuckernow.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah, wait, you used to eat chicken nuggets.
Hell yeah, who didn't?
It's the thing, though TikTokmade me outgrow that shit.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
I seen how they made it, but that's an age
developmental thing Like, if youLike, in my 20s I was dogging
out Wendy's nuggets Cause I wasthat I was in that place
financially.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Like.
But as you get older,opportunities open up.
You know what I'm saying?
Circumstances change.
So now, nigga, I circumstanceschange, so now I be on some lamb
chops, like you not gonna like.
I work hard like.
I heard y'all motherfuckersmention that lamb chop.
What's so wrong with themotherfucking lamb chop?
But you kind of outgrow justand you're supposed to like.
You're supposed to evolve and dobetter and be a better version

(27:19):
of yourself always striving forthat but I think what I'm
surprised I'm outgrowing is someof our music and I don't know
if I'm old now because I used tothink my mama was old for
playing her shit, but her shitwas likable.
I don't like none of this newshit, like whatsoever None of it

(27:40):
.
So you brought up Sexy Rareearlier.
I'm good on that bitch Like.
None of it.
So you brought up Sexy Rareearlier.
I'm good on that bitch Like ifshe ever sees this baby run up
and get done up, but I'm good onall of that Like.
That is not.
It does nothing for me.
It is not entertaining and I'mjust surprised that I'm not as
receptive to music as I used tobe.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
I'm starting to find myself in that same position.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Because I'm viewing my childhood artists, even going
back to like my 20s and 30s,for what they really are like
entertainers, you know.
So we get so wrapped up inthese entertainers, see, I think
TikTok and TikTok Instagram andall that other shit kind of
like fucked it up for a lot ofit.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Because you get to see who they are, as opposed
Before, when I was growing up,the only thing you saw was the
marketing Right, so I saw whatyou wanted me to see.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Now we get to see how y'all behave your character
Character.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
You know that whole thing, so it's a lot off-putting
.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
That's a good perspective, Because I feel like
the more you know somebody, themore you get to have a valid
judgment of what you allow themto put in your life.
Like you know Uncle Joe andthem is fucked up Like you don't
, let Uncle Joe give you no damnadvice At all.
Right.
So I guess, as we get to knowcelebrities and they let us in
their lives as intrusive as theydo and as liberally as they do,

(29:09):
you see their characters, butmaybe that's, maybe that's
influencing what I'm outgrowing.
That's a good Ouch, mr Glass,over here.
That was a good perspective.
No, I appreciate that.
Mm-hmm Light bulb just went off.
Wow.
Because I'm a music head allday so it kind of pisses me off,

(29:31):
like why am?
I listening to all this oldshit Like am I really stuck in
the 99 and the 2000s?

Speaker 1 (29:38):
I'll give you a perfect example.
So Bad Boy was a really bigstaple in New Yorkork fuck the
world.
I'm not talking about the world.
I'm talking about my block,specifically right on my borough
, specifically because big wasfrom brooklyn and pretty much
that's literally how I think hisbiggest check, his first

(30:00):
biggest check, came from thatwhole situation.
None of forget all of thatright, forget the fact that,
forget the fact that you knowBig in that whole situation.
But now Puffy went and did whathe did.
Well, he was doing what he wasdoing.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Right, it's now been exposed.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Now the shit is being exposed and it just makes the
music hard to listen to.
Right, think about R Kelly.
When R Kelly did what he did,this nigga's fucking catalog was
crazy, nah.
And then I have people that Iknow personally be like I still
listen to him.
I'm like nigga, you brain deadbecause I can't listen to it
with the same ear and enjoy itthe same way.
Knowing what this nigga did,you get what I'm saying?

(30:44):
It's kind of like.
it's kind of like a gay dudesinging for chicks, but we don't
know he gay yet like johnnygill, it is like, like, like,
like 90 of them right and thenwhat happens is when I find out
that you're gay and I waslistening to them.
I'm listening to this songtotally.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
I can't hear it the way I.
I heard it.
Hey, I definitely don't listento Road Be the Right Way, the
same way.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
So there's no way that niggas be like, yeah, but
you know he's pissing on girls.
Nigga, it was a child, I can'tdo it.
Yeah, I can't do it and thedude Not, for Nothin' was
amazing.
Amazing, but he was pissing onGiza Petalow Like.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
I can't even listen to Drake, like you saw when we
was in the car.
Like I gotta tap, like I don'teven feel comfortable.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Nah Drake is over too .
Kendrick done, fucked that upfor me.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
I love that I actually love it, and I had a
thought Excuse me, excuse me,excuse me.
I had a thought that maybe thisnigga was collaborating with
everybody, so when this shit hitthe fan can't nobody talk shit
about him, cause y'all niggasmade music with me.
Y'all niggas ate off of me.
Y'all blah, blah, blah.
This nigga was on everybody'severything I'm listening to old

(31:55):
shit.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
So was Jay.
His blueprint pretty much wasJay's blueprint.
Think about it.
Jay was hot every summerbecause of the fact that he was
on everybody else's remakes, notbecause he was dropping albums,
he wasn't dropping albums, buthis albums were great too.
To me Some of them, I mean bestof both worlds.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
I'm not talking about those.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
I don't consider that one of Jay In his catalog at
all either.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
So Nah, but I definitely to that one of G in
you know his catalog at alleither, right, um, nah, but I
definitely I really feel a waybecause I've outgrown my love
for it, like I used to love whennew music came out.
It's old.
I used to go to.
You can probably tell at my ageI ain't that old, but clearly I
ain't that young.
I used to go to FYE or themlittle music stores and just sit

(32:44):
there and listen to shit, likethey had the booths where you
can listen to the albums beforeyou bomb.
Like I miss doing that andpeople actually having shit I
wanted to listen to.
I miss being eager for somebodyto come out with some shit,
because the shit that's out nowI just started listening to Afro
beats and UK music.
You have to.
You got to switch it up.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
You got to switch it up.
You got to switch it up Becausethe machine will definitely
have you fucked up and listeningto the same stupid shit over
and over and over again.
Now I will say to TikTok'scredit and Instagram's credit
they will make an artist hotRight, because they'll take that
30 seconds of whatever it isand these people hammer time

(33:27):
hammer time word, it's my peoplewhat a cool out corner.
Shout out to them too.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
They do, they think yeah, yeah they do, they think
um yeah, I just, I, just, I justbeing I don't know if that's my
innocence fading for me or mejust wanting to hold on to some
shit, and it's like I feel likeall these new you, you were
saying that TikTok and Instagramwill fucking shove it down your
throat until you like it.

(33:57):
And I guess, because it's sorepetitious, you can't help but
to oh baby, like I don't.
I've never heard that song inits entirety, but because I keep
hearing, oh you, my earth, I'venever heard that song ever in
my life you know how.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
You know how.
First of all, I don't listen toher at all me either I don't
trash it, neither.
It's not my preference to read,and I stopped trashing her.
Let my preference and I stoppedtrashing her.
Let me correct myself.
I stopped trashing her right.
The reason why I stoppedtrashing her is this I started
listening to Lil' Kim the otherday and I was like that was how

(34:37):
sexy right.
I started yeah, foxy, that washow sexy right.
Like we was already on it.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
A little bit more talent involved.
No, we was already on it Alittle bit more talent involved.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
No, we was on it how she wasn't writing her shit.
Big was writing her shit.
So what talent she wasperforming.
I mean, come on, her memory wascrazy.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Man shout out to Kim she ain't going to get no
rebuttal.
Big Brooklyn all day.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
God damn it.
It wasn't that she had moretalent, Remember.
As far as rap is concerned,it's all about preference.
We can't, you know.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Okay, so to your previous point we get to see
more.
We get to see more now.
So because Sexy Red was workingright after she had her baby,
we didn't get to see none ofthese things.
With Kim, we get the poster.
Like you said, we get what theywanted us to see, but we didn't
get any of the, we didn't getno tea until all the court shit

(35:28):
started happening.
And that's when you figured out, you, you get a little bit more
in depth with people's detailswhen she went to jail for
perjury right prior to that youdon't get to know nobody
business unless they in theinterview talking about it.
But now every we get to see allof Sexy Red's, everything We've
seen a partner.
She got us something out onTwitter.
We didn't get to see none ofthat back then, so I guess

(35:50):
that's Sure we did.
You had to buy the tape.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
This shit is being pushed, but you said we didn't
get to see it.
We got to see it.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
It was not.
You know how freely all thisshit is given Freely.
All this shit is given Likeeverything is like instantaneous
as soon as something happens,these niggas had to go dub it,
burn it sell it Africans was onthe corner with the blankets.
Right.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
It was easy, so it was easy.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
The rest of the world didn't see it.
New York probably already knewthat shit.
The rest of the world did not.
They had no clue.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
They had no clue, selling Taibo joints and R Kelly
.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
But we kind of get to see like in her life and I
guess that helps us form like ajudgment in what her character
is like.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Right.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
I know the influence is probably there for the deal
and the money and, like I seen,you know who Suki is Sukiana.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
That bitch is ignorant as fuck.
She is.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
But she came up with a video maybe like a year or two
ago, and she was just likey'all, this is really not me.
I signed a contract.
I have to put these things out.
I signed that I would do thesethings, and maybe that's what's
contributing.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
I need more info.
I just need more info.
I can't.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
No, I feel that, but she came up with the song.
I no, I feel that, but she cameup with the song.
I don't know if you heard it.
Now I'm eating his ass and heeating my ass and eating his ass
, and she was like she didn'twant to do that, but she was
forced to because she signed acontract to do all this.
Blah, blah, blah.
But she do be doing someraunchy-ass shit.
But I get like you do shit forthe money, money.

(37:26):
You do shit because you want totake care of your family and
you settle so, so, so.
So I put a question up how doyou stay relevant without
compromising yourself?

Speaker 1 (37:37):
no, there's more to that question.
I ain't beat that question.
There's more to that question.
Read the whole thing that is it.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
How do you stay relevant without compromising?
Okay, no, no, no, I'm at thispoint, I got you.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Oh, okay, without compromising yourself, you gotta
stay alright.
You know what's so crazy aboutthat thing, that question in and
of itself, it's like you gottastay everybody be like yo.
You gotta stay true to yourself.
I'm like nigga, you cannot.
I'm like nigga, you cannot.
I'm gonna flip this.
You cannot sell ice to anEskimo, what you understand what

(38:12):
I'm saying?
If you got ice, the nigga nextdoor got ice Right.
The nigga outside your door hasice Right.
It's not a viable product, soit's not about, do you?
Type of situation and in termsof being relevant without
compromise.
When you say, let's understandwhat you mean when you, when you

(38:32):
say compromising yourself,though.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
So to me, compromising is being some.
If you know you do, you trustyour intuition when you feel
something most times yeah socompromising would be going
against going against yourintuition going against what you
know.
In any perfect situation youwould never do, outside of
anybody or anything's influence,some shit.
You would never do Right, butyou allow yourself to be
compromised.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
You allow yourself to be influenced.
So let me get back to it then.
In order to make that work, youliterally have to embody being
a hustler.
You have to be a hustler,explain.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
I mean, you have to embody being a hustler.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
You have to be a hustler, explain.
I mean, you have to work.
Okay, you know what I'm saying.
And I'm not talking about aregular nine to five.
Of course you need a regularnine to five because it's a
means to an end and it'sbasically going to fuel or fund
what you're trying to do anyway.
I'm talking about, like, whenyou have something, study what

(39:28):
you have.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Right, but then it's a day in, day out grind.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Most times when we start something, we're looking
at the end result of what we'restarting.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
That's why we started , never the in between Never.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
We're talking about all right.
They're like cool, check it out, I like this, right, this could
get me a million dollars.
It may very well get you amillion dollars, right, five,
six years from now.
Right, right, but they're notwilling to grind.
So that's why they burn outafter, like you know, the eight
months or whatever, or even ayear or a year and a half, but

(40:01):
they never achieve that becausethey're like looking at the end
result as opposed to that.
So what do we do?

Speaker 3 (40:08):
we compromise they get tired exactly okay, I feel
that look for the easy way Idon't want to.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
I don't want to necessarily say the easy way,
the plan that they have, they,they think that that's what it
is that's going to get me there,that's the plan, but we never
apply it to a timetable.
I'm here for this perspective.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Okay, you know.
So this is what I'm hearing andthis is what I'm going to just
regurgitate it back out.
You compromise yourself whenyou don't grow with your plan,
like when you don't, because Ifeel like if you come up with
any idea, you have to allow thatto evolve.
With how you're evolving too,because just because you write
something down on the paperdon't mean that's how it's going

(40:57):
to go for the entire duration.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah, but you can't start immediately after you
write it down on paper.
And the way I grew up was,every time I tried to start a
venture or something, the firstthing that they would ask for is
a business plan.
You have a business plan.
We now, because money is sofreely thrown around, we now
forego that whole situation.
We think we don't need it.
We think that we're just goingto turn on the camera, go viral,

(41:22):
right, and then we good, youunderstand what.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
I'm saying Because we've seen it happen.
Because we've seen it happen,it's almost like the lottery you
think you can win.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
It's exactly like the lottery, because when you think
about, come on the platformInstagram, for instance, like
that platform is huge you woulddrop in a bucket.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
If you would drop in a bucket,then bucket, then you gotta do,
you gotta do more and you haveto do things that are different.
And then I also heard a veryinteresting thing with regards
to um, instagram, instagram orany other those, any of those

(41:55):
platforms is never gonna let youwin the way that you want to
win, and I'm gonna tell you whythat they're not gonna let you
win because of the, the factthat if, let's say, you have a
million people on your platform,ok, all million people, one
million people they each giveyou a dollar, a million dollars,

(42:16):
right, right.
Instagram is never going to letthem all see the content in one
shot because they need to beable to sell advertisement.
So why would, why would I letthat happen, where my
advertisers don't even need tocome to me?
They just come to you, get acreative.
You get what I'm saying.
So, with that being said,instagram, all of those
platforms I'm not just callingout instagram, but all of the

(42:38):
platforms they're never going toallow you the latitude to
actually win.
They charge you.
I have a million.
I have a million viewers rightand to boost a post, instagram
charges me.
I have a million viewers.
Why the fuck do I need to boostthe post?
send it to all of them these arethe people that actually you
know I mean, but you want me topay you to get it out come on

(43:03):
man, you know, I think that theorganic way to grow I mean
organic growth right now isultimately like non-existent.
You got to take it offline inorder to grow organically, okay
okay.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
So I'm going to ask this question too, because this
is these, were I put these twotogether because they kind of
went hand in hand for me?
So, how do you see yourselfkeeping up with how fast
technology is changing?
I feel like the in-person shitis going to make the difference.
Because they were talking abouthow, like in about 2030, you're
not going to be able to tell AIfrom real people 100%.

(43:38):
So I'm just like damn, if me andStyles are up here and we're
talking, damn AI can mock us.
Ai can simulate us Like we'redoing a part, like that's 100
they're doing it now rightthey're doing it.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Now you write the script.
Ai will definitely say it inyour voice.
They.
They're doing it, right?
Um, it's gonna be, yeah, allright.
So technology is never gonnastop right period.
It moves at the speed of lightabsolutely.
Your pivot game and yourimagination is the only thing.
That your pivot game and yourimagination is the only thing

(44:12):
that's going to separate youfrom everybody else.
So like, for instance,charlamagne and stuff like that,
joe Buttons, joe Rogan, likethe way that you pivot, you know
I mean, is going to determineyour success.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Right.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
You know, or your ability to pivot is going to
determine your success.
You know, so you have to stayup on shit.
You have to stay up on shit.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
It's so much going on though it's like how do you
even figure out?
But I guess, if you hustlingand you got your niche and you
are, like you, focused on thebrunch hour, Like you focused on
what you can do to make surewhat you are doing is keeping up
with trends, or just I don't,because I don't think you

(44:57):
compare yourself at all, I don't.
To what To other people.
You do what you do you in yourown lane, for real.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
I mean, I try not to.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I do what.
Put it to you like this I dowhat everybody else does.
You know there's definitely acause and effect, right?
I had an idea as to what Iwanted to do as far as a podcast
like.
I started this podcast platformbecause I wanted to throw brunch
events okay but I didn't wantto compete with the the

(45:25):
promoters already that wereactually in that lane gotcha.
So what I was like, all right,fuck it, you know what?
I'm not gonna be a promoter,I'm gonna create my own platform
, build that platform.
Now I have a built-in audiencefor right, my shit, now I'm
automatically a promoter.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
I don't have to get, I don't want, I don't have to
basically be cool with anybodyelse to make my shit happen
right I got my own shit so, justlike with with your, with the
podcast, you you put a spin onit, because now you're not just
limited to your borough like now.
You've been traveling now weoutside yeah, outside, outside

(46:02):
yeah, we outside like for realand I feel like, because you're
doing an in-person thing, youare pivoting with what's going
on, not even realizing you'redoing some shit ain't nobody
else really motherfucking doing.
But because this is anin-person thing, technology
can't fuck with the in-person.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Yeah, I can't.
This is my thing.
Fuck Zoom.
And shout out to everybody doingit.
This is low-slide to you.
It didn't work for me becausefor four years prior to me even
attempting to do something onZoom, everything was in person,
like all my co-hosts.
We sat at my kitchen table andwe all did it there, right,
because I can look at it's notjust audible cues that are

(46:42):
delayed if I'm doing it on Zoom,but it's also the physical cues
that we take.
You know, take things from andstuff like that, um, and it just
feels better and it feelsbetter to the listener hey, yo
ain't no.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
Hold on, let me fix my light and hold on my child.
No, this feels, better realtime and I could.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
You know me, I'm quick with it.
I'm quick to tell somebody shutthe fuck up.
Now, if I do that on Zoom, youmight take it the wrong way, but
if I do it in person, Niggas isnot going to really take it any
type of way.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
I definitely applaud you and commend you and
definitely wish infiniteabundance and blessings over
this venture, because I reallyfuck with how y'all be traveling
and doing this shit, becauseyou're not because you ain't
just talking about it, you'reliterally doing the thing you
set out to do.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
I was blessed to have two other brothers sit down
after I was like, listen, thisis what I'm trying to do you
with it.
I don't have no bread,everybody coming out of their
pocket to do it, but the endresult is this, and down the
line, anything that we make offof it is 50-50.
I don't you get what I'm saying.

(47:52):
Whatever comes from that andthis is my plan to actually get
the bag, so I'm not just like Yo, let's go create the content
and then see what happens.
Nah, there's a whole planBehind this whole shit.
There's a whole Like everything.
There's something behind it,absolutely you know.
So when I pitched it and thenthey decided to actually go out
on their own dime with me tomake it happen, that shit was

(48:15):
like damn near unheard of.
It doesn't happen, go mode.
You know what I mean?
It doesn't happen.
We hit, we hit Maryland.
We hit New York, of course,because those are home base.
Then we hit Houston, we hitDallas.
Now we out here.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
So you know Queen City Definitely, definitely,
definitely proud of you Becauseyou definitely put me on to the
plan and to see it, I feel likea proud mama, I really do.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
Yeah.
So I hit our last topic.
Do you feel fake when yousupport people even if you don't
like their content?
Or do you feel like you're justbeing a truly supportive and
genuine person, Because I don'tbe liking a whole bunch of
motherfuckers' content, I'lldouble tap it just because you

(49:04):
had the confidence to put thisbullshit out there.
But do you feel like you'rebeing fake when you support
people there.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Nah, I think that I've been blessed for everybody
pretty much to know my stance onit.
Like I don't listen to a lot ofpodcasters like that.
I've had podcasters come onthis platform and I'm telling
them flat out like, listen, Idig you, I dig the content.
I.
And I'm telling them flat outlike listen, I dig you, I dig
the content.
I don't listen to the podcastlike that.
I will.
You know what I mean, and I dooccasionally do it, but I'm not

(49:33):
that.
I don't ever pretend to be likeyo come on this platform, I
really dig what you got going onover there and those episodes
of fight.
Nah, I don't do none of thatand I know that niggas don't
support it the same way.
But then I tell podcasters allthe time you're not my audience
anyway, so I don't get offended.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
You're not my audience.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Your audience might be my audience, but you're not
my audience.
So I don't get offended whenthat happens and I expect the
same when I do, same type ofgrace when I'm like listen, but
I tell niggas like I don't do it.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Has anybody ever told you they don't like what you do
?
Yeah, really yeah, point themout.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
I've been told, yo, you got the brunch hour.
So basically there's adisconnect between the name and
what the actual podcast is about.
Right, but this dude, he's myman kind of, but he's a clown
Because when I think about itI'm like yo, from the inception
of this, the entire format ofthe show was a fucking menu.
So now I know you reallytalking out of turn and you just
like the sound of your fuckingvoice.

(50:33):
But this is why I'm me, this iswhy I'm just like I don't even
talk to niggas, because I justdon't, I can't Like, if you
don't come to me like I live forconstructive criticism, I live
for constructive criticism.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
I live for feedback.
That might be some Leo shit,I'm here for it.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Listen, I've had people you know in my inbox like
I don't agree with X, y and Z.
Blah, blah, blah.
For me that's a learning moment.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Right.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
You get what I'm saying.
I've also had people like yo.
I really fucks with what y'alldoing over there.
For these reasons, you knowwhat I mean and then I walk away
and I'm on cloud nine for therest of the day, and then we get
back to work tomorrow.
But yeah, okay, yeah, do you?
Because I feel like youinterviewing me right now.
Let's talk about you.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
I can ask you questions, god damn it.
Like I said, if I see something, I admire people's confidence
nowadays.
And because I'm not so receptiveto a lot, I don't ingest a lot
of information that is notrelevant to my life.
So if I see some shit and I'mlike, all right, you go, girl,

(51:41):
and I just scroll, I won't sayanything negative.
I don't really give feedback topeople that I know are probably
too, too sensitive.
I only give constructivecriticism to the people I know
can take it, because I don'tknow everybody.
Everybody don't know me.
I'm always coming with goodintentions.
I always speak and move out oflove.
Everybody might not receive itthat way, so I'm just I'll

(52:04):
double tap and keep scrolling.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Yo listen, my new shit is God told me to mind my
motherfucking business right, sosometimes it's not even my
place to offer constructivecriticism.
You know, especially for, likethe headstrong people that just
you know moving at light speed,you know, with the ferocity of,
you know the fucking, I don'tknow the force of whatever you

(52:26):
know, they don't have time,don't know the force or whatever
you know, and they don't havetime to stop, slow down and
evaluate what they're doing, youknow.
So I listen, I don't even havetime for it.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
For the record, I would like to say if anybody, if
y'all, don't like what the fuckI'm doing, you can say
something.
So you made the statement.
I look unapproachableable and Ifeel like maybe if I'm doing
something people don't like, Ialready look unapproachable so
if they know you, they know thatyou're approaching they know me
, they yeah, that's what I'msaying, if I don't know you.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
You look unapproachable but is.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
But regardless of how I come across, is that a
barrier for you to tell somebodysome constructive criticism if
you see something that can helpme?
Damn, she look unapproachable.
I don't want to tell her thatshe gonna like.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Is that enough to keep?
No, because if I've been aroundyou already know whether I
could say it or not.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Would you not.
You don't do that to people youdon't know, you don't give
constructive To people that Idon't know do what they do.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
It's not my place, and I'm not even saying it like
that.
It's just really not my place.
You get what I'm saying.
If you put your shit out, youunderstand what I'm saying and
then you're inviting criticism.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Agreed.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
You get what I'm saying.
What I'm hearing from you isjust in general.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
I'm not saying walk up to the nigga around the
corner.
No, I'm talking about like ifthere's some shit going on and
you're invited to be a part ofit, or if there was like a guest
host or if you're like, wouldyou not give constructive
criticism if?

Speaker 1 (53:59):
In that space, all right.
So, for instance, I'm a martialartist, right Okay.
So when I've I don't competeanymore, but when I do go
because my cousins are actuallydoing this thing right now but
when I go I'm tempted, and whenI'm seeing, you know, sparring
matches and stuff like that, I'mtempted to offer Correction.

(54:21):
Yeah, just a little bit and Ihave to temper that because of
the fact that that's not myplace.
Okay, and I have to temper thatbecause of the fact that that's
not my place.
I don't know you.
You do what I do and you mightbe doing it and it should look
crazy, but I don't know you.
That's somebody else's problem.
Go ahead and handle that.
But if I know you right, let'ssay that that's somebody else's
student or my man's student.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
Then I'ma step in and I'ma say something well, do you
see this going on a lot just inthe lanes that you're in?
Do you see a lot of fake loveand support, like you know damn
well?

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Yeah, but I told you my grown age though Mind your
business, it's not even mind mybusiness, it's just kind of like
there's a saying that what youeat doesn't make me shit.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Right.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
So what you doing, that's cool.
What I'm doing, I think, iscool too.
You understand what I'm saying.
If you think that you know, youover here, just double tapping
for the sake of it, you canrecognize the real love and all
of that, right, but remember,the goal isn't the double taps
from the people that are in yourorbit.
That's not the goal, true,because they're going to.
You know, I have people thatare near and dear to me that

(55:25):
don't double tap like that.
You understand and I get it,that's fact, yeah, but I get it.
But remember, at the end of theday, just because they're near
and dear doesn't mean that theshit your talk track is their
talk track.
You know what I mean.
It doesn't mean that whatexcites you excites them.
They like you.
They might not necessarily likethe material, right, I have

(55:47):
people near and dear to me thatdon't even fuck with podcasts.
You know what I'm saying.
So it's like you can't.
There's a lot of fake love, butfake love is marketing.
It's not even fake love.
You can't even call it thatanymore.
It's marketing.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
I feel like all of these questions kind of
technology, the fake love, thestaying relevant without
compromising of these questionskind of the technology, the fake
love, the staying relevantwithout compromising all of that
shit kind of falls into thesame little grab bag Like are
you being genuinely yourself,are you evolving and learning
who you're growing into, are youembodying that, so that you
don't compromise, you don't showfake love?

(56:23):
You?
Don't fall behind.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
What's even crazier like this right here, because
you know my birthday is Tuesdayand I do have a birthday wish I
wish that I could bump intosomebody that's going to jump in
my inbox and be like yo, thatsegment is trash, because I'm
going to be like that's cool,not for your birthday.
No, no, no.
I'm going to invite them to aconversation.
Let to invite them to aconversation.

(56:52):
Let's have a conversation aboutit, because I'm trying to grow,
so I'm gonna ask qualifyingquestions, as well understood.
But I'm on a time limit.
What you get you about to getkicked off?
I'm on a time limit, yeah.
So yeah, you outside, but notreally I'm on punishment.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
I told you they've been.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Goddamn street lights just came on you can't ban a
snowman but my whole thing islike I want that person and Bob
used to always she still does tothis day Podcasts won't invite
me on their platform If I ask.
I don't know what the fuck itis, but if I ask to come on
their platform, it's not likeI'm getting denied, but I won't

(57:22):
be invited.
Niggas will really be on somelike.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Is that really the trend?

Speaker 1 (57:27):
I don't know if it's a trend, but I know it's a thing
you know and I'm not offendedby it or whatever you know, and
she'll be like yo, you're justtoo.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Real.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Something.
You know what I mean.
Like your mouth is a little toocrazy, but I mean.
I think that you know again.
Again, I'm not with the rubbingelbows with niggas, I'm not
about the go along and get along.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
That's not me, fuck that that's called settling to
me.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (57:56):
To me.
Let's book it.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
I think I was.
Riders is joint Shout out toriders.
Riders always show up Always.
But nah, you got kicked off.
They did.
It's crazy.
You can jump back on Pause.
I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
That's like number 74 .
Nah, that's fine, keep counting, golly.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Get to doing what you do.
But see, the thing is, rod, mything is I can't do Zoom.
It has to be in person, youknow, and I know that you and I
in person, the shit would becrazy.
Pause, it would be.
No, seriously, it would be.
Rod, this is your real one, youknow, and I need to get out to

(58:40):
Chicago, actually, I want tocome.
Oh, now you're doing it.
You're more than welcome.
Who Huh?

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Who you talking about me.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
You just said you want to come.
I want to go to Chicago.
All right, jess, you continuedoing what you're doing.
I'm going to talk to the peoplereal quick.
I don't know what the fuckyou're talking about.
Let me jump in.
Good.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
All right, cool, okay , we good, but yeah, that whole
thing, yeah, so that's mybirthday wish.
My birthday wish is that Iactually had people in my orbit
that would you know, thatactually listened to the show
and then would critique the showbecause I'm all about growth,
you understand Because then it'sgoing to force me to think
Whether I go with the idea ornot.
Go with the idea, like I havepeople that I talk to, and all

(59:30):
right.
So let me explain me.
Sure, you come to me and youlike yo styles.
I'm trying to do x, y and z.
I swear to god, five minutes inthe conversation I'm already
thinking about the marketing andpromotion.
I'm already thinking about yourdemographic.
I'm always but that's the nigga, that I am right, I am right.
So it's kind of crazy, becauseniggas are coming to me.
I'm'm like, oh, you reallywasn't ready.
I understand.
Not for me, just in general, youwasn't ready.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
Look, I had a.
I had a client she again I'm atherapist, I don't know and she
was complaining about her, herhusband, how he says he wants to
do certain things and she'sjust like I feel like I'm like
that as soon as you tell me youwant to do something, I'm
already thinking of ways I canhelp things.
Blah, blah, blah.
And I said, well, and he getsfrustrated when she reminds him

(01:00:12):
hey, you said you want to doblah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Sometimes an idea is not a goal.
So sometimes people might cometo you with ideas but it's not
yet a goal to them yet, becausethe goal requires you to put
things in place for you toachieve that.
Sometimes they're just talkingabout ideas that they Sounds fun
to do.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
No 100%, but I think between the ages of 20 to 35,
that might be the case At 35,.
You've seen some things.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
I feel you, but everybody's not developmentally
where you are mentally, oreverybody don't have that same
type of intelligence.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Yes, I'm about to be 5'0", so I'm not expecting
everybody to be where I'm at.
I get that, you know but again,you know, I've been trying to
put shit together forever, likeI've had a magazine, a whole
fucking magazine, and there's awhole story behind that whole
thing.
You get what I'm saying, andfrom that magazine venture it,
put me in a space where it'slike when I do have
conversations with everybody,niggas make it sound cool, like

(01:01:13):
yo.
I'm about to take a meeting forblah blah blah, but you're not
ready yet though.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Right so, the meeting sounds good, right so, but the
fact of the matter is, you'renot really ready but that's, but
that's part of.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
Is it an idea or is it a goal?
Because if you are, this isjust my opinion if you're
operating up from a goaloriented mindset, as soon as I
tell you some shit I already got, if I'm talking to you about it
, I've already mapped out someshit.
It sounds like just maybe fromthe examples that you've given,
these are just ideas, that theyjust popped up.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
And because you're a go-getter, they'll know you.
I think rap music got a lot ofniggas fucked up.
And when I say rap music, noteverybody's trying to be a
rapper, but niggas is reallyholding on to the shit that
these rappers are saying.
There's a lot of work that goesinto this and I feel like
there's not a lot of.
I don't want to say everybody'slazy, they're just not

(01:02:14):
expecting it Right.
So when you go, when you likelooking at it, they could
fucking he's red.
You know what I mean?
Stomach is crazy, arms is crazyand you're like I want to do
that.
There's a lot of fucking workto get there.
There's a diet.
You got to get in the gym, yougot to get the proper rest right
.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
So they're like yeah, and you got to give it time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
And you got to give it time.
The most important thing and alot of people are impatient I'm
impatient, so I know far morepeople are impatient.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
You got to give it the time you.
You got to give it your all youknow.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
I want to definitely practice patience, but yeah,
Maybe you'll get something foryour birthday.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
Nah, that's not going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
That's not going to happen.
It's going to be a lot of fuckyou's and shit like that.
You know, and I'm quick to tellniggas to stop talking to me,
Like don't talk to me, but thatwhole thing.
So this is what we're going todo.
You covered everything you gothere we covered everything.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
We even did the model pose.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Let me see, got that All right, you sure yeah.
Nothing else you want to talkabout.
Yeah, All right.
Oh what?
What is this?
What's that you talking aboutthis?
What is it?
Marvel makes Robert Downey Jrreplacing Jonathan Mays?

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
They replaced my man with a white man.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
All right, stop, stop , stop, because Ryan would slap
my head off my shoulders.
All right, never mind.
Okay, because it was somethingthat we were supposed to talk
about and this is something he'svery well versed on.
Control-alt-delete yeah, my bad, so I don't even want to do
that.
Stop slapboxing the mic.
Bad, you did put that one inthere.
Gifts, money and experience Putthat in there.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Yeah, what would you prefer?
Gifts, slash money, or time andexperience?

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Time and experience.
Where am I getting this from?

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
It doesn't matter, this is just your preference in
general.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
Oh well, no, it does matter.
I didn't put a person on therebecause I mean we discussing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
You can make that variation.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
If it's a random person, give me money.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
But if it's like a family member, friend, stuff
like that, I'll take theexperience Okay, because when
I'm fucked up in life I coulddraw on that.
I feel that I feel that thebread I might fuck up.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
I feel that I know a lot of people that would rather
give some money, regardless ofwhat the fuck it is, because
then with the money they can godo their own experience.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
No, I can see that, but then that means that I'm
receiving it from somebody Ireally don't give a fuck about.
Like I said, give me a rando hegoing to give me some money, or
a partner she going to give mesome money or he going to give
me some money then I'm good.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
I could go fuck that up.
I don't worry about that.
I'm definitely.
The older I get, the more Iwant experiences and I value
people's time over money.
The money's already printed, Ican go get it.
I can't get your time and yourand the experience I gotta.
That's something that has to bewillingly given.
I can get my own money Bigfacts.
I don't mind getting otherpeople though.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
Big fact.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
To flip it, let's not get that fucked up, nigga.
The Zell and Cash app do work,but I would definitely the older
I get, I preference experiencesover material shit.
I'm good on that.
Bay night, sexy nights and goodfood.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Alright, I ain't gonna get into your business,
but I'm gonna get into yourbusiness.
Sure, let's go Um Single.
I am Lying, motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
That shit trash.
Nah, that is trash.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
There's nothing trash about being single.
It is why.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
The experience isn't a pleasurable one when you're in
it too long Like if there's no.
What the fuck it too long Likeif there's no.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
What the fuck does that mean?
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
there's.
No, I'm not enjoying this.
I prefer to be in partnership.
I'm just that person.
I do better with someone thanto be out getting in trouble.
I like somebody holding meaccountable.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
I got you, and that's a very weird statement.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
But it's not even like on a codependent type of
thing, it's just I don't like.
I don't like dating.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
It's shit trash the older you get, the worse it gets
, you know, and that's becauselet me explain that, though the
reason why the older you get,the worse it gets as far as
dating is concerned, is because,remember, you have way more
experience with every, remember,you have way more experience
With every passing day.
You have more experience.
Yes, sir, so when you'retalking to me, I'm translating

(01:06:35):
this shit.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
And I'm already making up my mind like this
ain't gonna work.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
Immediately, though and I be feeling bad because I
really be trying to give peoplea chance I really be like,
alright, jessica, you're notsettling, you're allowing
yourself to get to know somebody, and nigga, I'd be settling.
I'd be like, nah, because itshould be trash.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
It's trash.
But let me ask you a question,though.
But why are you settling?

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
But I don't.
It's not that I'm in arelationship with people.
I'm getting to know people andgiving them my time, giving them
energy, giving certain parts ofme that like pause, pause,
pause, All right, cool Shit.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Wait, you didn't mean the certain parts.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Right, I just meant like so right, See, so that
pause was valid.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
That was a valid pause.
You're learning.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
I just think it's trash because a lot of people I
guess nowadays everything isexpected, there's no work being
done, there's no time beingallotted for you to kind of get
to know people.
People want shit from youwithout earning it.
And because I give a lot, Ifeel like people can sense that
on me and I don't like some ofthe attention I get.
You know, as a Leo, I feel likepeople can sense that on me and
I don't like some of theattention I get.
You know, as a Leo, you getattention period, Like I don't

(01:07:54):
have to do a lot to get it.
So when I do get it, I don'tlike to feel like you're here
with a purpose to get a need metand not to reciprocate to me
too.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Yeah, I'm big on reciprocation too.
That's a big thing for me.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Maybe that's the problem I'm having with dating
People don't reciprocate.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Maybe that's what I can give to them, or maybe
you're just reading the shitwrong.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Read the book for me, then Read the paper.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
No, no no, what I'm saying is this.
You're reading it wrong becausemaybe that person is going to
sound fucked up, but I don'tmean it like this let's go.
It's not into you like that.
Okay Right, and it just just topiggyback off of what you just
said and not even to remix it,because you just said this
literally it's, it's you're.
I don't even know how tofucking say this.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
Be blunt, nigga.
You be blind, nigga, not you.
Tongue tied over here.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
We don't do that here the person is not into you like
that and unfortunately, they'regonna say what they need to say
in order to further thenothingness of what you've built
which is my point.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
Like there's no substance, people don't have
depth, like I've had the worsttime dating since I've been in
Charlotte and I attribute thatto me being raised in VA and I
feel like anything north ofNorth Carolina.
You're a different type ofperson.
I feel like I'm a little bittoo outspoken for people here.
I'm a little bit too blunt.

(01:09:23):
I'm a little bit too direct.
I have very, very thick skin soshit don't bother me for real
and I can go back and forth withit and I feel like men don't
think that that's like ladylike.
Yeah.
And I feel like I intimidate alot of people out here.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
So, for instance, I'll say something like I'm
going to beat your ass.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
Oh, my God, you so Like, nigga.
You can't tell I'm beingsarcastic, my nigga Like.
I got to explain my jokes toyou.
Nigga, I don't want to fuckwith y'all country ass.
I mean, if I get somebody fromCharlotte, my bad Like, but I
ain't been having nomotherfucking luck, you are, you
are.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
I just have not had any luck since I've been here.
I tried one person since I'velived here recently and he
fucked that shit up royally.
So I'm like it's my own fuckwith y'all country niggas now
and I be feeling bad because Iwant somebody to prove me wrong.
I'm waiting on somebody toprove me wrong.
Okay.
But they do not.
I feel like nowadays peoplewant what they want without

(01:10:20):
having to reciprocate.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Big facts, all right.
So what's your ideal first datesince you, you know?

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
you're not involved.
Ideal first date and I'm fun asfuck.
So I don't like no boring shit.
We can do a picnic or some shit, but let's go to the Museum of
Illusions.
Let's go like motherfucking barcrawl.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
I said first date.
You can't go on a bar crawl ona first date.
Reason being is because y'allniggas gonna be too sourced to
have any meaningful conversation.
You can't get to know somebodywhen they sourced up.
Stop it.
Alright, dinner, you don't haveto have dinner.
You can be creative.
Yo, leo, be creative.
What the fuck you talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
But I don't like boring shit.
If we got to a first date, thatmeans our conversations have
been had.
We've been speaking Like I'vebeen real picky now, like I
don't just meet somebody, andthen it's happened.
But nowadays I would rathermuch have a conversation and
figure out who the fuck I'mabout to go out with.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
I got you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
Because if we go into a range like how are we having
a meaningful conversation and weblasting the little man 90
yards with light, so before weeven get to a date, I would
rather.
Who know you?
Big Brother Styles in thebuilding.
Who know you?
Who is it?
Slim Kid?
Underscore 66.
She was just here last night.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
Oh, that's Peecha hey .
Peecha Look.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
I gotta get to know your name.
Oh my God, you should have justsaid Petra.
Petra ain't nowhere in thedaggone title.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
It don't matter, it threw me off.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
So look, I just feel like if I'm even taking a chance
on spending time with yououtside of my house, I've gotten
to know you a little bit first.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
So my first date can be something dope for real,
because we've alreadyestablished.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Nah, you've established that you haven't
established the alone timeactually being in person with
this person.
So all of that other stuff,that was just the application.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
All right, no block roll.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
You ain't had the interview yet.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
Of course, dinner is cool.
Karaoke is my shit.
We can do that shit all day.
If you know somebody that's amusic lover Petra, I'm sorry,
girl, you don't know what I'msipping on.
Sorry, but I feel like, ifyou're getting to know me,
something about what I'm tellingyou about me should spark an

(01:12:48):
idea for you to say oh, she saysshe likes painting, so let me
do a painting support.
It doesn't have to be me comingup with it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
I mean, it doesn't have to be you coming up with it
, but I'm just telling you anideal date.
I'm asking about an ideal datefor you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
Paint night karaoke.
Of course, dinner Feed the fuckout of me Shit.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
But can you see how?
That's a little bit confusing.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
Because you just hit me with the I don't like boring
shit and you was like dinner.
How exciting can dinner be,unless you're doing like a blind
taste test and stuff, shit likethat?

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
So if I can't do a bar crawl, is wine tasting not a
good first date?
Huh.
Is wine tasting not a goodfirst date?
Huh, is wine tasting not a goodfirst date?
I mean, it's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
So no ball crawl.
You can't do a ball crawl.
How are you going to do a ballcrawl?

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
I'm not even saying like we got to drink, it's like
going to different places.
So I'll say this I went on thefirst date with somebody one day
and we went to three differentplaces that day.
It went somewhere for lunch,somewhere for dinner, somewhere
for after like two o'clock inthe morning, pizza.
We did three different dates inone day and that was our first
day.

Speaker 4 (01:13:57):
Lunch went so great he was like look, let's do
dinner.

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
Cool Out, chilling, whatever club we was at around
here.

Speaker 4 (01:14:03):
2 am pizza and called it a night.
Like that was fun to me itsounds like and called her the
night.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Like that was fun to me.
That was dope.
Sounds like a fire date.
Sounds like a fire date.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
What's your ideal person?
That shit evolves as I evolve100%.
Definitely don't like the sameshit I liked when I was 25.
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
stop, because you about to take me around the
world.
I just want to go across thestreet.
So ideal person right now 2024,August the 4th.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
I just want to go across the street.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
So I'm talking about- .

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
So I do person right now, yeah, 2024.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
August the 4th.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
August the 4th.
What time is it?
Yeah, that time 8.26 PM.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
Yeah, I like people that are genuine.
I like people that areinvesting in themselves, ie some
type of therapy, or they allowsome type of outside influence
to positively influence how theygrow.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
I like somebody that's presentable.
I need you to stop right there.
Just bookmark that for a second.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
So your man has to be in therapy.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
No, I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
He has to have a therapist.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
No involved in some type of inner growth, some type
of evolution.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Like what.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
So reading, fucking exercising something like
investing in your health.
Wealth I got you Some type?
Of just growth in general.
You cannot be stagnant.
Okay, I'm too much of amotivated person to be with
somebody that's not growingthemselves, because I'll leave
you.
All right, I'll just.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Leave.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
On every level.
Physically, I'll leave your ass.
Like I outthink people.
Like I hate being the smartestperson in the room sometimes.
Like, give me something tochallenge.
Like, challenge me.
I like, I like men that canchallenge me.
I like men that ask appropriateand thought-provoking questions
.
I like a presentable lookingman.
Um, look, since I've been here,hey, gino, look, gino can

(01:15:50):
attest to this.
Like people here are kind ofcountry like I don't, like I've
been.
I feel like my, my soulmate isprobably from virginia, can't be
nobody from here.
They got to be from outside ofthis state.
Um, somebody that allows um meto be me because I I'm different
me's every day.
So somebody that'll allow me tobe me, cause I'm different me's
everyday.
So somebody that'll allow me tobe whatever me I wanna be.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
I don't know different.
You's everyday is kinda scary.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
I might get up today and not be in the best of moods.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
That's a red flag for me who the fuck is not.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
I am a fucking Leo.
Who gets up the same way everysingle day?
Me?
No, you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
Listen, I wake up grumpy as fuck everyday man.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
Even on paper.
What do Me?
No, you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
Listen, I wake up grumpy as fuck every day.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
Man, Even on paper Elevate nigga, nah, what do you
mean?
Even on paper?
No, I might wake up one day andbe tired.
I might wake up one day andhave energy.
I might wake up one day andwant to fucking rearrange some
furniture.
I might wake up one day and wantto be lazy.
I might wake up one day andwant to make breakfast day and
want to make breakfast the nextday.
You get pop tarts, like, let mebe, I'm gonna be and accept me
for that and allow me to see whoyou really are.

(01:16:53):
But everybody's not reallywilling to be vulnerable
nowadays because people do fuckshit do fuck shit.
They take advantage, theyaren't like have ulterior
motives that's the trend that'sthe trend.
That's the trend.
Everybody wants whatever theywant without working for it.
They want microwavesatisfaction.
Microwave satisfaction thatpopcorn Funny as fuck.

(01:17:16):
I mean set it and forget it.
No, nigga you got to work.
You got to goddamn work overhere.
I hear that Somebody's thatattractive too.
You can't be over here lookinglike Ackbok or that damn
Gargamel Nigga.
Please be attractive.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Give me an actor that suits your fancy.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
What's the nigga off Queen Sugar?

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
Oh, I know who you're talking about the son, ralph
Angel.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
Nami, nami.
What a Ralph Angel's.
Ralph Angel.
You know what I mean.
You know what I mean.
Put a Ralph Angel's egg out ofit.
Anybody black and healthylooking Look, I'm a stickler,
right?
If you ain't got all your teeth, I'm like one of them ones.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
Yeah, that's a fact.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
It could really be a side tooth missing, but it got
to be like in the back.
It can't be like one, one ofthe main.
Yeah, you can't have your smilefucked up in the pictures, like
I'm so big on that and I hatethat.
I feel like that soundssuperficial.
But you got to have all yourmotherfucking teeth At least
like the ones that count.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
You said the ones.
They all count.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
They do, but if, but, if you got like, so I don't
have my wisdom teeth.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
Me either.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
Right, but all the remaining, how many were we
supposed to have?
32?
32, yeah All the remaining 20,28?
.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
Them motherfuckers is stout, them niggas is postured
and they got a good foundationpopping on.
So when I like a good smile isin real, like I'm a sucker for a
good smile.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
Somebody come get your girl, please Come get your
girl.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
Never trust dark skin and a smile is what I'm on.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
That's my weakness dark skin and a good smile All
right.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
Yeah, now, teeth are important.
I'm not going to lean into itany more than you've already
leaned into it, because thenpeople are going to come for me
because I'm probably a littlebit more reckless than you with
regards to that.
But yeah, the side tooth, themissing side tooth, is kind of
crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
I mean, some people can't help it and it's like I
ain't knocking nobody becauseshit be happening.
Cavities my daddy knocked outLike just shit, be life, be
lifin' for people and I don'twant that to keep me from
finding my soulmate.
So, soulmate, if you are outthere and you are missing a
tooth, we can go get thatmotherfucker.
Like at least replace it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
Just get like one door.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Get like a fucking chick lit orsomething.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
Nigga, you can ball up a gum wrapper or something
and put that motherfucker thereyou just want to come out that
shit and just get the bad ass.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
All right, we going too hard.
We going too hard Because I'mactually giving this right now,
which is why we ain't cool.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
Dessert.
I hope you guys enjoyed yourmeal.
Can I get you something off ofour dessert menu?
What's a dessert?

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Nothing.
You just gonna tell peoplewhere they can fucking find you.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
Well, I've changed my name off social media from
Bless Just to Goddess, just myown little personal reasons.
I just wanted to do something alittle different.
Red flag.
I'm right do something a littledifferent.
That's right, I'm right.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
Well, you got mad, you ain't helping my cause.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
man, I'm just saying though.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
I'm just saying you ain't helping my cause.

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
I'm not doing anything else because I've been
like super career focusedGetting licenses and y'all
motherfuckers need therapy andme I'm probably licensed in your
state and if not, I'll get alicense Just for your
motherfucking ass.
So I'm really, really big onmental health right now.
So I've been just focusing onbuilding my career and my brand.
With that, I moved to Charlottewith the intent of starting a

(01:20:40):
black-only wellness center, soI've kind of shifted gears and
been putting a little bit morein place to get that started.
So, um, my regular page, thisone right here that you find me
on, you can, um, god is just um,I'm God is just on everything
Twitter, tik, tok, all of that.

(01:21:01):
Snapchat, don't come beingworse.
I'm a creepy.
Um, cause I'll block your ass.
But outside of that, I've justbeen working on my therapy shit.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
Yeah, I'm not blocking anybody unless it says
like yo come see me suck dick.
And I'm like, yeah, I block,like you're wasting my time, you
know.
Yeah, and I'm trying to figureout like how that's even a thing
.
I swear to God, I go on mystories.
I swear to God, I go on mystories.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
Yeah, the spam Is getting out of control.
Like I block the fuck Out ofthem immediately.
But yeah, I'm not really doingToo too much, but as I do, I
will keep everybody posted,especially you.
But yeah, I'm hoping, like whenyou do your International show,
I get an invite, cause I wouldlove To fucking go out the
country and be talking shit.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
I'm a Paul, that you even said that, so I'm going to
just leave it there how you callit?
Yeah, so now you can catch methe Brunch Hour podcast.
If you found me here, then youknow where to find me, so I'm
not even going to waste mybreath on that.
Normally it's like a buttonhere that I press and it tells
you all the shit you need toknow.

Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
Button's not here, anyway, shout-outs to Lim,
shout-outs to Ryan, shout-outsto Shadra, shout-out to Petra,
my bad girl.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
Shout-outs to Petra.
She popped up over here too.

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
Yeah, she probably going to find me later.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
I'll allow it.
I was wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
I'll allow it.
I'll allow it, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:22:26):
Oh oh yeah.
This has been fun.
I miss this.
I really do.
This has been very nostalgicand it's been good for my soul,
so it's good to see you, big bro, on the agenda.
I gotta pull up On a couplepeople, so yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
I don't even understand when I say like Come
to New York, and then we mentionthem niggas.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
I'm coming specifically For you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
Who are those?

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
niggas.
Who are these?
Who are these?

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
niggas, you know what I mean Like, like out of here,
we not, we not talking aboutthem, niggas.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
My family.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
I'm like yo Cunning to y'all.
Yeah, there's a couple of peeps, fuck them.
I got family there.
That's different.
Yeah, that's different.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
Auntie, he ain't mean that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
Not at all, not a little bit.
I was misinformed.

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
Cousin Sylvia, I'm coming to see y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
I can't with you.
I can't.
It's that time again, and sincewe really don't know how to say
goodbye, I'm not going to saygoodbye, but listen what I will
ask.
Pardon, I'm not even asking.
If you liked it, please don'tforget to like, comment,
subscribe and shit.
And that's homework, homeworkalso.
There is no.

(01:23:30):
Also, we'll catch you next week.
We'll save a seat at the tablefor you.
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