NY: Evolving Friendships, and Creative Pursuits w/ Karyn Elle

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
You are now rocking with the brunch hour podcast,
the best hour of the day.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's the only podcast I listen to.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
With your host styles .
So hopefully what we did was wefaded in the black during that
intro, because it's just allwith sitting here listening to
the intro and then staring at abunch of people.
So, this is actually take tworight, because I fucked up take
one.
Take one is just like you know.

(00:32):
It's like alcohol and shit youwalk in sober, you walk out.
Fucked up, you know right nowso.
I'm not fucked up yet.
My wife's over there kickingthe mic.
She's like enough, enough.
Anyway, this episode I'll besharing the mic, pause and I'm
not going to explain why it's apause, but I'll be sharing it
with my wife.
Still, pause, because we'resharing the mic and if I need to

(00:54):
explain it any further you needto find another part.
Anyway, we are actually on oursecond leg.
We're here in New York now.
You know we're here in my partof town.
The fellas came through.
We also have, you know, thewife is here and we have a
special guest whom shall remainunnamed for right now, just

(01:17):
right now.
But before we get into anything, what we're going to do is
basically talk about where wewent today.
We ended up at Free Bird inWhite Plains, new York.
Google it or check the shownotes.
I need to stop being rude.
Check the show notes.
It'll be there, I promise you.
All right, let's talk about it.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Well, first I enjoyed it.
I enjoyed the look of it.
It's kind of like I don't wantto say a hole in the wall, but
it kind of gives like a dive bartype of feel to it.
I like stuff like that.
It's very approachable.
You don't have to feel likeyou're underdressed or anything
For one.
I definitely like the vibe init, just the whole.

(01:57):
Like you can easily miss it ifyou're not paying attention.
Yes, it's a fact.
Yeah, but I thought the vibewas cool and I know we'll get
into a rating system later soI'm going to save it.
But overall I really dug it.
Lance beat me to it.
I thought it was going to befirst and I was a little
disappointed that he beat me toit.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
I didn't even know that you're all racing, but this
is the thing how do you call it?
When you basically referencedthe dive bar thing here in New
York, like dive bars are likegreasy, and when you say dive
bar, I think like studioapartment with a bunch of people
with like white beaters on itor dirty and shit like that.
That was so.

(02:36):
You must have elegant dive barsin Maryland.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Maybe in a what's the part?
It's like a whole strip of likebars off of Florida Avenue,
because the name is sketchedright now.
But yeah, I mean, I guess.
So I guess it's.
You know, my definition of adive bar is just like a small
spot, but it's kind of nice, youknow what?
Maybe more like a speak easy.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Okay, I like that.
Yeah, Speak easy, I'll go withthat.
I'll go with that.
What's your thoughts?

Speaker 5 (03:05):
Oh, I mean it was a good restaurant.
Walk in, I was greeted by thewoman at the front and the guy
came up.
So I'm at the table, was gonnabe ready.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Oh, let me close my eyes, walk me through this lamp,
go ahead, oh, walk you through,walk you through.
No, no, just the way that youwas explaining it.
I was like.
You know, I'm greeted by thelady in the front.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
Yeah, it was a nice lady who greeted me.
Then they were getting thetables ready in the front and
then they found out we weresitting in the back.
But it was good, everything wasgood.
We're getting a rating systemlater, but it was good.
Okay, amateur, good, small, butit was good Friendly.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Friendly.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
Friendly, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
I'm glad that we shared.
You might have to put an extrafor me on that.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
I'm about to mute this dude's mic too, but this
not the city, though right Huh,this not really.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
It's not necessarily the city, but there are a thing
about it like this let's thinkabout it like the Poconos.
Right, we'll get to that later,but let's talk about the
Poconos and how a lot of NewYorkers actually move from New
York to Transplants.
Okay, and they went to Poconos,so that's what Westchester is.
Oh yeah, so we're not in theburrows, but you gonna bump into

(04:21):
the burrows up here for sure,100%, you know, unless they're
older.
You know they've been here fora while, so they're activated.
You know what's your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
I enjoyed it as well.
I mean, it's our second timegoing.
So, I kind of like knew what toexpect, but I enjoyed it.
That's something different thistime around, but yeah, it was
really nice Okay.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Spending.
The mic is shoestring budget.
I don't know what to tell you.
That's what we do, so we'regoing to get to the rating
system, but I don't evenactually none of y'all got the
rating system now, right, allright, come on.
Yeah, I got it.
Oh, you got it.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yeah, all right, let's go All right, well, shoot,
I guess a lot, a little bit.
I mean five.
Five being excellent value forbeing good value.
Three, being fair to beslightly overpriced or slightly,
you know, underwhelming,depending on the category on.

(05:21):
And then we have poor is numberone.
Okay, so food quality shootfood quality for me.
I will give it.
I'm gonna give it a four Giveit a four.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
What did you give Milk and Honey for the chicken
and waffles?

Speaker 4 (05:39):
I gave the chicken and waffles a five.
Oh, you gave it a five.
We kept the files.
I gave the chicken and wafflesa five, all right Milk and Honey
.
I gave Milk and Honey a fiveRight.
So where did they miss?
It was a, you know.
I felt I didn't want to givethem a five across the board, so
I gave them a four, I think forthe atmosphere or the customer
service.
Okay, wait, not for customerservice, it was WDA atmosphere,

(06:02):
it was atmosphere All right cool.
I've cried.
I'm glad you said it.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
You know what about you, man?
I was just being petty.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
I was just being petty but uh, okay.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Glad you said it.
Food here was four.
I was a little scared at firstbecause it was definitely a
different side of the hand whowas, I felt like, was cooking in
the back.
So I was kind of nervous aboutthe chicken and waffles.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
So you just needed somebody to make an appearance.
If somebody would have came outthe back.
Somebody's grandmother wouldhave came out the back.
You would have gave them a five.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Yeah, if Angel Mama came out the back, it was like I
gave the chicken and waffles.
You was like there it is, yeah,I'm like.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
I'm like.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like Would write to offload.
Man Would write to offload.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
But I did it, man, I didn't.
He said you go get some morebecause you know don't do
DISLOAD, alright, yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Get some more, because you've got this monster
out there.
You've got this monster outsideof you just for your alright.
Yeah, I would.
You know.
You know what the secret recipeyou ain't with that.
If Patty 17 came out the backand was like I did it, baby, I
was like, all right cool, I'lltake the chicken and waffles.
I want to be clear okay, heenjoyed it.
I did enjoy it.
He enjoyed it, in fact, he wasNazTV genuine human being.
Right for for hot second?
Yeah, and he was like becausethere were a lot of Asian

(07:07):
dissents, that's that thingthere.
I'm not racist, I promise you,but that's that's what happened.
So we thought that there wasgoing to be a lack of seasoning,
anyway, like how can you makechicken and why?
Why is this on a?

Speaker 4 (07:22):
menu.
Right, I was nervous, butactually it worked out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it worked out.
I was nervous, like Shaq andthe free throw line, but they
did.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
OK, but you didn't break though.
They didn't break.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
They yeah, cool, cool when I'm not going to be petty
like him, but you, I'm going togive him a See, I'm a gamified.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
I'm a gamified.
I'm a gamified, so they writeup there with milk and honey.
Y'all swear by milk and honey.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
OK, that's why I gave it a four.
So All right so.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
So this claim is a curve grade, because I you claim
on a curve?
Yeah, because I was nervous,like Ryan too, I was nervous.
So when I went out, when I youknow, but when it came to the
table, I was like oh.
Ok, you might have somethingHmm.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Presentation Right Set a lot of attention.
The presentation was straight.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Tastes was really good.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
The only, the honestly the only reason I can't
give it a five is because ofthe waffle.
Hmm, the waffle with milk andhoney was much better, ok.
But, the chicken here.
I'm not going to get that.
No, never mind.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah, yeah, watch your mouth.
Watch your mouth, clean yourthoughts.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
But it was, but it was good, though it was good.
So four and a half.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Four and a half.
All right, here we go with that.
No Five Five.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
Because I had to make up for Patty Ryan.
Yeah, patty Ryan, there we go.
Yeah, what say you?

Speaker 3 (08:45):
I'm going to give it a four Because it definitely
beat the extra.
I'm going to give it a four.
I'm going to give it a four,the expectations that I have for
it being shrimp and grits.
It's kind of like you know,cooking grits is a hard task to
do, so they were actually reallygood and so they met my

(09:07):
expectations.
Are you going to four?

Speaker 1 (09:09):
I'm going to four, I'm going with a five.
I don't fuck with grits andthey snuck that shit in.
They snuck it in.
I had the brisket with the overeasy egg, fried hard though

(09:29):
which is good for me.
Cause I you know, if I hadgotten a runny egg and they
brought out the grits and it wason top of that, I'd have been
pissed off, Like now.
I got yellow grits, right.
That'd have been no bueno,right.
I'm going with a five.
Cause again, like I said, Idon't eat no grits.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
So you didn't know you was getting grits.
Nah, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Maybe I didn't.
I did the lamp.
They sent me the fucking menu.
I was like I got it.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
Oh cause, you know what's crazy.
When you remember when we weresitting there talking he was
like I normally don't fuck withgrits and I was like why do you
eat all the grits?

Speaker 1 (10:04):
I thought that too, we was having a biscuit moment.
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
You good for these moments.
Yeah, I left it alone too.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
I heard her and I was like maybe I heard it wrong.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, Nah, I had you, Nah, I don't know.
Anyway, back to the top.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
Go ahead, ryan.
All right, so we were talkingabout price Pricing, I guess is
next we're talking about thevariety of options.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Okay, are you going in order?

Speaker 4 (10:31):
I wasn't Right.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
No, no, no you are Cause we started with the food
called quality.
So we good, all right, allright, but variety of options.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
I'll give the variety of options a five.
I will give it a five.
You know it was all on one pagebut it was pretty.
It was a good variety for whatwas on that one page.
And also, you know, I guess I'ma little cheeky a little bit I
also give it a variety ofoptions because I really enjoyed
their drink menu.
You had your choice betweenbeer, wine or cocktails.

(11:01):
And when I first, at first,very, very first glance, I
didn't see the cocktail menu andI don't do wine and I don't do
beer, so I was like, well, Iguess I won't be drinking today.
But then I saw the cocktailmenu the last minute.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
So, variety of options, I give it a five, all
right cool NA for me Because Iknew driving up here I was
getting chicken off.
I didn't even look at the menu.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yo, I feel like y'all just like swapping bodies what
the fuck.
He's petty then you want to bepetty Now he's like you know.
I knew what I was getting, soI'ma give it.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
No, NA is not bad, it's just how can I grade it.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
And I literally didn't look at the menu.
Could you look at the menu andsee the options, even though
well.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
I guess you didn't look at it out.
Well, when you see your menutype, like for what he was like
what in waffles?

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Let's get it going.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
Yeah, I had a four hour drive up here and I knew it
was gonna be chicken andwaffles.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
That's a fact.
I know a fact Because I toldy'all ahead of time when I chose
the place I'm in.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
so he had chicken and waffles and I was like who
Stiles know what he's doing.
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (12:01):
So that's why I said NA.
None personal against them.
Just say NA for me, all right.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
I guess I'll give it a four.
I think it was well actually athree actually.
I mean, I think they had prettygood options for brunch.
So Hold on, hold on.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
How you go from.
How you go to four, get acompliment and then go three.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
I mean it was a good variety, but as far as the, I
don't think it was thatextensive yeah she's going word
by word by that definition.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Three, there was a good variety of options to cater
to different preferences.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
I mean four was like extensive there was, it wasn't
that big of a menu.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah that's true, that was a brunch, that's true.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
I'm going with a five .
The reason being is because themenu wasn't crazy.
They kept it short.
The drink menu was actuallypretty decent, you know.
So if you drinking, you knowwhatever, and I'm not like a
hardcore bourbon type of dudeunless I'm with, you know what I
mean.
My guys outside of that, giveme some fruity.
Oh, I'm just saying yeah, yeah,yeah, nah, yeah, yeah, back to

(13:07):
you, back to you, wayne.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Well, as far as the ambiance, I'm going to do I'm
still a shadow move and I'm justgoing word for word definition.
I'll say let me give it a three, which is pleasant.
Ambiance was nice and added itto the dining experience
straight up.
Once again, I like the factthat it was kind of a hole in
the wall but it felt like a cozyat home experience.
I give it a three.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
Just copy my answer for the three.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
I think I'm going with three as well.
I like the coaxing this of it,so Five no, no, I ain't gonna do
that.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
I ain't gonna do that I think we're going to stick
with the three because, first ofall, be sitting way in the back
.
I don't know about y'all, but Idon't like sitting way in the
back of nothing.
Then I had my back to the doorand I'm in New York, I don't
play them games, so it was justlike I was too deep pause and my
back was to the door and Iwaited was dope though I like
the weather.

(14:01):
Yeah, he fucked up on the wholewell, not him specifically, but
the whole birthday thing in myreservation and I thought that
you know, give me the check wasbasically the cold and he
brought me to check.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
And I'm like yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
I'm like, but I wanted the cake.
It's their birthdays.
I just wanted the cake.
And man was like, oh, I'm goingto make a cake for you and he
was all obvious with it.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
He was like oh, you wanted a birthday cake with
those two Word Word.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Back to you, Ryan.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
All right, well, we got service.
I'm looking at the service offive.
They were very attentive, onceagain me and me and lamb was the
first one there, and they would.
They see.
Well, I don't know how, I don'tknow how long lamb was waiting,
but they seated us almostimmediately once I came and,
like I said, the service wasdope.
They didn't have to wait long,you didn't have to.

(14:53):
I hate those experiences whichI had just recently at somewhere
in Jersey where you have tohunt down your waiter to get the
damn check to leave, like wheredid she go?
I?

Speaker 1 (15:02):
like that is my biggest it's.
Yeah, I hate yo.
I swear to God.
It's like yo, you on me, yeah,you want me out of it, right,
but then when I asked for thecheck, you give me the check and
disappear for half hour Like Iwant to go.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
Yeah, I didn't get to check.
I had to look forward to getthe check.
You know what I'm saying.
Like so I.
But back to the main topic.
I feel like that the service Igot today was the complete
opposite Just very attentive,like they, they.
It was like a running circle,like they came to check you
about every 10 minutes just tomake sure you straight.
Same thing with the manager.
The manager came out a coupleof times just to make sure the

(15:36):
food was good, make sure there'sno issues.
I give the service a five.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
OK.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
I get a service of five because I got there first,
I believe yeah, and you knowthey were really, really
attentive.
They did a good job getting Ihad a reservation Well, not me,
but I said the reservation name.
It was good.
They cleaned the table off.
They make sure to my name isgood everywhere.

(16:02):
I see yeah, actually, becausewhen I signed in they said oh,
stiles, oh and then they calledthis lady over and she cleaned
the table immediately.
So your name do carry weight.
So I'm glad you put it in yourname.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Only, only, when I write it down.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
Yeah, there was a why you said in the first place,
styles Right.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
So yeah.
So shout out to styles and hisname.
We got to get my five.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
I'm gonna give it a four.
I mean, listen, I didn't thinkit was anything exceptional
about the service, to be honest.
I mean, it wasn't as good asmilk and honey service.
So that's all you know.
That's what I'm going based offof.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
So I'm gonna give it a four.
I can't hear it.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
I mean, it was excellent it was good.
But it wasn't exceptional.
Five no.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
I'm lying.
I'm gonna go with the four two,reason being that she just she
fucked it up.
It wasn't five, but I had toknock it down to a four because
she brought milk and honey intothe fold and nobody fucking with
that right now.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Whoa, whoa whoa Milk and honey was super bold.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
It was, but that don't mean we got it down great
everybody.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
That don't mean she broke it down.
No, we got it down, but that'sthe bar.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
It's a tough crowd.
Come on man, it's tough crowd.
That's the bar.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
I mean that's Dunkin Donuts and Starbucks.
They both make coffee, but I'mjust saying my G, I'm like yeah.
I'm mad that I even got to makea point.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
for that I'm gonna roll with the group I'm gonna be
a team player, my five stillstands.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
No, no, listen, ain't nobody taking your five.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
My five stands too.
It's your five.
You got fours over here.
Tough New Yorker, tough NewYorker.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
In terms of value for money, I also give it a five.
Can we think about it?
Three out of the four, threeout of the four of us got drinks
in addition to our meal, andthe overall price was still
pretty decent with all that saidso I was just like I roll with
it.
Five's just off of that.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
Okay, yeah, it was a five.
It was definitely a five Goodprice.
I was surprised at the priceline.
So yeah, I give it a five.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
I give it a five.
I'm giving it a five.
I'm giving it a five, eventhough I don't know how much
anything costs.
But Listen.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
First of all, thank you, brother land, brother, land
.
I pulled, everybody pulled outcards except for Shadra.
Everybody pulled out cards andland was like your money's no
good here, like a real boss, andI was like I'm not your date.

Speaker 5 (18:40):
No, no, no no.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
I felt a little uncomfortable in the moment.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
See, that's why I had to explain the justice.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
No, no, you didn't, it's my brother, it's my brother
.
But yeah, no, lamp took care ofit basically, and I want to
give him a five as well, becauseit was four of us.
We all had entrees, we all haddrinks, except for lamp.
We had that good old HUO andthe check was 151.
Right, so 151 is not bad forpeople, you know, and do that

(19:10):
one too.

Speaker 6 (19:11):
I used to be in love with this bitch.
They mean J the fuck with it.
No more.
Now I fuck with Tango Ray.
Tango Ray, hey yo, what's inthe?
We need two shots combo.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
I miss Jess.
I had to say that, Jess, if youlisten and I miss you.
Just some Leo shit.
Anywho, we all here with theincomparable Karen L from here.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Oh, there we go.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
She was waiting to do that.
You know, I'm saying you fromNew York without saying you from
New York.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
And she got the J's on that.
It's a common misconceptionthat every New York has 10.
We don't have 10s, we have J's.
Yeah, we have moved on.
All right, we have moved on.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
Yeah, karen, L.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Karen L, one of my favorite podcasters.
I have a lot of podcasters inmy circle.
I don't listen to all of them,but I tell them all that I don't
listen to all of them, becausethat's just what it is, but I do
listen to them.
All right, this woman doeseverything.
And when I say she doeseverything, I don't know if you

(20:21):
like my feed at certain pointsduring the day is flooded with
Karen L, you know, and which iscrazy, because I have.
How many pages do you have?
How many pages do you have?

Speaker 6 (20:32):
Two.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Jesus, because it feels like she has like six
different pages.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
It's like I get the feed for that.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Then I get the.
I get the stories right and thestories going for a while too.
I'm not mad at the stories,because most stories that I'm
mad at I'm you.
Tell us a little bit about whatyour podcast is.

Speaker 6 (20:56):
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just kind of took on a life ofits own.
So it's, it's hip hop, it'sculture, it's music, it's it's
an hour of making people feelgood.
It's things that are happeningin society that we need to talk
about.
Yeah, but really it's aboutmaking people feel good.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
All right, so check it out.
I'm not even going to like belong-winded with it, but what I
do want to know is because we dowe all sitting here have a huge
podcast stir following right.
And what I ask people all thetime is like what's your why?
Why do you do it Like?
Why do you do it specifically?

Speaker 6 (21:41):
It makes me happy.
It makes me happy.
I had this like I know howtalented I am and I know that I
had this feeling in my stomachand I kept trying to suppress it
.
And then sit at a desk and domy job and do all the other
things except what the nature oflife was telling me to do.
And when I do this I'm happy.

(22:02):
So I do it for me and I'mfortunate enough that so many
people enjoy it and they like it.
But really it was because Icouldn't live just knowing that
I wasn't doing something withall my creativity and my energy.
When it came to that, Copy Iwasn't being honest with myself.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
There we go, there we go.
I think that that's pretty muchall about why's.
As well, we all enjoy it.
You know we all, as humans, weget higher on escapism, you know
.
So if you can escape, go ahead.
What we're going to do rightnow is basically have in my head
I'm like go back.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Way back Now what we're going to do right now.
We got a quick fire.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
We're going to ask you 10 questions, all right.
People that know me know I hatethe backstory.
We're going to keep it short.
Okay, we'll keep it short, butyou know this already.
All right, so I'm probably addlike some clock sounds in the
back.
Anyway, what's your favoritebrunch spot and why?

Speaker 6 (23:08):
That's hard.
My favorite brunch spot.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
I'm going to treat this like um.
I don't know what you call it.
It really passed.
I can't pass.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
Huh, I can't pass.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
We're going to come back to it though.

Speaker 6 (23:22):
Okay, come back to that one.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
All right.
Next, how important is the foodquality when deciding on the
brunch place?

Speaker 6 (23:27):
Very important.
No, it's important.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
What's your favorite food, though?

Speaker 6 (23:32):
Anything with chicken .

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Copy.

Speaker 6 (23:34):
She's right in.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
She's right in.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Do you prefer a large variety of options or smaller
on the menu?
Okay, why is that?
Because I eat how?

Speaker 6 (23:44):
I feel Sometimes.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
I feel like a lot.

Speaker 6 (23:46):
Sometimes I don't, I got to depend how.
I feel I'm emotional eater.
I think we all are.
I think we all are Sometimes.
I mean, you know, sometimes Iwant a burger, sometimes I want
to stay.
I got to see how I feel.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
I don't know how.

Speaker 6 (23:57):
I'm going to feel Okay, okay.
So how long does it take foryou to actually order after the
guy puts the menu in your hand?
I don't know, I don't know, Idon't know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
How long does it take for you to order after the guy
puts?

Speaker 6 (24:13):
the menu in your hand , maybe about four minutes.
I'm hungry, though.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
I see how I feel but overall I feel hungry.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
She was like hold on, let me see.
Well, that was a prettyimpressive.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
It was especially asking for an almond egg for a
menu.
You mean the almond egg andcome back in four minutes.

Speaker 6 (24:31):
I mean I see how I feel, but we still hungry.
I'm the type of person to belike no, I don't want to drink
first.
I don't want to eat because I'mgoing to tell you what I'm
going to order right now.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
All right.
So what type of ambience do youprefer when you go to brunch?

Speaker 6 (24:49):
You know what I used to like the brunch spots that
had the parties in them.
I used to like that because Ithought that was really cool.
It was like being in a club andhaving brunch.
And for a minute.
That was popping.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Right right.

Speaker 6 (25:00):
Until I couldn't talk to my friends because we were
screaming at each other.
And then I was like this is nothow I want to have brunch with
y'all.
So yeah, I think if I can'thear you, I don't you know like
that's not really how I want tohave brunch, so enough that you
know we could enjoy each other'scompany.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Copy you ever been to Angels of Harlem.

Speaker 6 (25:23):
No.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
It's just like that for brunch.
It's crazy Because I tookShadrow when it was like during
COVID that we went because theyhad them plastic what you call
is up.
It was during COVID.
Yeah, it was probably.

Speaker 5 (25:41):
No, it was definitely COVID for sure 100%, it was
loud during COVID.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Huh.

Speaker 5 (25:45):
It was loud during COVID.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
No, it wasn't loud during COVID when I took it,
they had like the plasticseparation social distancing
thing going on, but they do havethe DJ and everything and it
gets crazy in there, just likethat day party.

Speaker 6 (26:00):
Yeah, I took my daughter with me to one, because
I figured, oh, we're just goingto go and the brunch just.
You know you can come, it'sfine.
And then they closed, all thelights went off, the blinds came
down I was like, okay, maybe Ishouldn't have brought my like
there's kids in here Turned intoa lot of girls and the ladies

(26:20):
came out with the sparklers.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
They got the strobe lights.
I'm like yo it's one o'clock.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
I'm still tired from last night, Like what y'all
doing.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
Yeah, yeah, the waiting for your order.

Speaker 6 (26:33):
Yeah, brunch is, you know not what it used to be.
It's a different kind of brunch.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
It is, it is Okay.
So how significant is thequality of service in the
overall?

Speaker 6 (26:45):
services important in my life.
Oh not just in brunch andeverything that I do.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
I want to be treated well.

Speaker 6 (26:51):
Yeah, and every, in every single thing that I do it.
Do you want to check your ownstuff at Target?
No, I don't work here.
I want to be treated welleverywhere that I go.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Oh, we're going to have a conversation because we
just got back off of a littlebirthday retreat.
Let's talk about some things,anyway, okay, do you prefer
casual or formal?

Speaker 6 (27:12):
Formal, oh, formal, so you want to get dressed up.
Yes.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
And you want it to be quiet.

Speaker 6 (27:19):
Yes, I want to hear the person I'm there with,
otherwise I could have came bymyself.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
So how formal we talking.
We're talking like Oscarsformal dressing.

Speaker 6 (27:28):
No, but like I hope not Like I got to be the most
hood person in the place.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
Oh, okay, you have to be no yeah.

Speaker 6 (27:36):
I'm the I'm the bar, because I don't want to go
places where I'm against shotshe was like you know you say,
if somebody look more dangerousthan you, you can't go Exactly
Okay, and I don't look dangerous.
So you know what I mean.
There are certain places thatis just like if you're there,
I'm not there.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
You know, I can't be mad If I just see you're
underwear, then I'm not staying.
I mean it's sad, but I washoping nothing like that.
Pop off with a brunch, but younever know.

Speaker 6 (28:04):
This is New York.
Yeah, it depends where you are.
The AB you never know, but likeI think you know at a certain
age, it's nice to you know justrelax.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Yeah, I hear you.
I hear you.
What are some must have menu,must have menu items for brunch.

Speaker 6 (28:23):
Yeah, momosis.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Okay, pretty regular.

Speaker 6 (28:28):
Yeah, I think Bellini's and Momosis are
necessary Okay.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
It was a time point in time, rather, that I thought
that mimosas for were for womenand it just came up with
Bellini's for dudes.
So it was like but totally notthe case.

Speaker 6 (28:42):
I feel like I just drink it.
Bring the picture and leave iton the table Right.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Let me see how important is the availability of
vegan and vegetarian optionsduring brunch.

Speaker 6 (28:56):
That's not my problem .

Speaker 4 (29:00):
I'm not vegan or vegetarian, so what if one of
your homegirls is rolling withyou and it's no, you know, and
she's a vegan, or she's a vegan.

Speaker 6 (29:06):
I mean, like we could look at a place.
If you can't eat there, then wecould look somewhere else.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
Okay.
You know, we said that's not myproblem, we're like girl, we're
going here.

Speaker 6 (29:16):
I mean like how vegan and how vegetarian you know too
, because there's some peoplethat are like pescetarian and
then they're like I'll eat theeggs but I won't eat the chicken
.
Like you know, they got to sortthat out.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
They do have to sort that out.
That's what it sounds like.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
Yeah, that's because there's so many varieties of
vegan Like you're going to wearleather or not, right?
I don't understand, or it'slike what did I say Like vegan
leather, what's that I?

Speaker 4 (29:43):
don't have no idea they could make that.
They grew it Like I don'tunderstand.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
That sounds crazy.
What is that?
It sounds like a From a tiger.

Speaker 6 (29:49):
Oh, okay, you see what I'm saying Are you serious,
they planted it yeah.
So I feel like there's so muchrange in that that they got to
figure that out.
Look at the menu and figure itout, or the soup, or the what,
or the soup.
Yeah, there we go, just drink,just drink.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Do you enjoy bottomless brunches or before a
la carte?

Speaker 6 (30:19):
Bottomless brunches.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Bottomless.
Yeah, so it could be onespecific, basically like mimosas
that you just drinkcontinuously.

Speaker 6 (30:28):
Sure, that's, fine.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
You just go with that , yeah, okay.

Speaker 6 (30:32):
I don't mind, it's one o'clock.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Alright, and I think that you answered this some way.
Some way somehow, rather, wouldyou say that the value for
money is important, is animportant factor when choosing a
brunch place.

Speaker 6 (30:51):
I don't really know, because it depends.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
You don't want tuna fish on a cracker for like 12
hours.

Speaker 6 (30:56):
No, but I'm also willing to pay for the things
that I like and I want andservice, like I'm not.
If I like it and I know, likethe food is good here, the
ambiance is good and it's goingto cost me a little bit more.
I'm willing to pay a little bitmore if I'm going to get what I
want.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
We were at.
We were in the Poconos, right,and we had we went to Doublecut
right.
So there's a steakhouse upthere.
Crazy, Ambiance was real dope,you know, the ambiance was dope.
Shaddux was making new friendswith somebody else's little kids
.
You were, she sat down and hislittle kid in the booth behind

(31:38):
us because he had like littlewindows, stood up and plastered
her face on the window, Like youknow, trying to come through
and the father was like sit down, Jenny, come back to dinner.
But anyway, um, yeah, thatwhole thing.
But I ordered the.
What was it?
Short ribs, short rib tacos.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Sounds good.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
Yeah Sounds good, right.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
So basically, what it was was square one ton wrappers
right that were fried.
Look at the other y'all like,yeah, let's, let's do it.
That were fried in a taco shape.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Right, and then there was a dollop of short rib.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
Oh, that's not what I expected you to say.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
I know.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
I know.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yeah, $20.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
No, I see yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
And it was four of them.
I ended up fucking rich crackerwith fucking a dollop of
fucking short ribs for $20.
Like I could have did this shitat home and you know the game a
couple of pounds because Iwould have got more out of it.
But why did they just speakinto your point?

Speaker 6 (32:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
You know, just speaking to your point that was
kind of crazy.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
That is kind of crazy .
I hate when you go to a spotand you pay, overpay for
something and you don't feelfull or satisfied at all.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
That's something that that that dollop ass stuff
ain't gonna fill you up At all.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
There you go, however , sorry you, anti poor.
I had a pork job.
That was about eight day, right, and shit.
That shit was like almost 50bucks, but it was amazing Money
well spent, amazing.
You know, they took theywhatever they did.

(33:17):
However, it was prepared, butthen they put it on like a pure,
a bed of pure aid, whatever.
I'm still trying to figure outwhat it was, but it was good.
Didn't come with any size.
That was kind of disappointing,right.
But now I don't know how thisquick fire turned into what I
was eating.
Yeah, basically right, maincourse.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
It's time to eat what's on your mind.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
All right, Ryan, take it away.
Oh man, so the main topic wehave here, I title it everybody
can't go.
Nipsey, the late great Nipsey,was one of my favorites to
listen to and has a bar where hegoes.
Circle got smaller.
Everybody can't go.
Not going to ask anybody'sagent here, but I'm happy to say
I recently turned 40, late lastyear October.

(34:01):
But this topic came to mindbecause you know I have like
four well, I had a total of likefour guys who I wrote with for
the most part and we would haveconversations in a group chat or
whenever we go out to a littlelounge or whatever, and we're
all married except for one of us, but we'd always talk about,
you know, the importance ofrefinancing, saving up for this.

(34:24):
Now the third you know, how areyou advancing your career?
Just mature topics, right, andthere's always that.
There was always that fourthguy in the group who would just
be like yeah, but what the bitchis that, though, and it's like,
it's like we ain't on that.
I was like I'm married.
You know, you don't have tosend news in a group chat.
We don't need to see who you.
You know stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
So can I jump in real quick, please?
Who's sending news in the inthe fucking group?

Speaker 4 (34:51):
chat.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
It happens, man Wait but are these news of people
that they're with?

Speaker 4 (34:57):
No, let me rephrase like random news no, we're not
news where they were, like maybeyou remember when the Fappening
happened.
I don't know if anybodyremember that.
Oh okay, it was like a periodof time where, like all these
celebrities, stuff got leaked.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Oh, when they shit got leaked.
Yeah, when they shit got leaked.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
Like making goods hope solo soccer player, stuff
like that.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
I saw Jill Scott.
There you go, stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
So he would just send stuff like that, but it was
like.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
I didn't even know she had titties.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
No, I knew she had titties.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
I know she got titties.
I was like damn bro, you can'tmiss those.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
But my point is it's like you know, we ain't on that
we don't.
I don't need to see what makinggood looks like topless stuff,
like that.
I mean, it was just like one ofthose things where it was like
everybody's in this directionand you got somebody who's like,
like I said, you know, are wegoing to the club so I could try
to pick up somebody that's inthe third and you know, you just
kind of see that you know yourtrajectories or things that you

(36:01):
hold value to kind of change ordifferent, and so I just wanted
to bring that to the group Seeif anybody has had that type of
experience where it's like I,this person who, yeah, I may
have grown up with this person,but you know, clearly we own the
same different wavelengths theolder we get.
Has anybody had that experience?
And if so, you know, how didyou go about it?
Like, did you kind of ghostthem or did you kind of be like

(36:24):
having a conversation with themfirst, like, look, I don't know
what you want, but we know thesame place?
Like how did you go about that?
Anybody could start.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
We're going to throw that to our guests first, there
you go.
Let her take a stab at it.

Speaker 6 (36:38):
Well, I don't have very many friends that I grew up
with and hang out with nowbecause I just don't Like I know
them but I wouldn't call themmy friends in my circle.
The people in my circle arealways going to be, they're good
people and they're always goingto be close to me, so it really
doesn't matter.
I think, as far as like therelationship thing and where we

(37:02):
are in our lives, I've noticedthat there's cycles and people
go through these cycles in life.
And sometimes I'm married and,because some of us have been
friends a long time, I'm married, you're not married.
I'm single, you're not single.
You got kids, my kids are grownand so some of us have managed
to kind of hang through it witheach other and other and other

(37:23):
people.
You kind of just got to be likeI when, when they're ready,
they'll, you know, come backaround and pull it together.
But you got some like if youreally love someone and those
are your people's, youunderstand who they are and you
love them for who they are andyou've got to let them be but
just be like I'm not doing thatwith you, you know, because he's
like meeting with it yet, yeah.
So you know, that's just kind offor me.

(37:45):
I'm not going to not be yourfriend anymore because of where
you are, because I still loveyou.
I'm just not going to be withyou in the club at 6am because I
got to go to work tomorrow andif you want, if you want to
sleep all day, I'll highlightyou later.
Fair, very fair Okay and that'sand that's just that.
But the truth of the matter islike your personality Attracts

(38:05):
the people that you're gonna bearound, so those people that are
not supposed to be there aregonna get shaken out anyway.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
Yeah, yeah, I know, like I said, I wouldn't say I go
to the person, but it was justone of those things where you
kind of just lose touch becauseLike, like I said I'll, just our
priorities just didn't alignanymore, like that.
You know I'm saying.
So that's kind of how I happen?
you just the interest phase,like if I would invite them to
like a house party or somethinglike that, or I get together,
not a house party, like hewouldn't come because it's like

(38:33):
you know, it's like what damnthis is all.
Either marry people, very fewsingles I'm a sticker like a so
thumb, so I felt like he wouldfeel uncomfortable, is certain,
you know social gatherings, eventhough that wasn't the case.
So it was just one of thosethings where, even if I would
reach out, extending hand, it'slike unfortunately, you know, I
knew he wasn't gonna come anyway, just for whatever reason.
No stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Yeah, and I feel like when you let's talk about
relationships for a second Um,but when you switch gears right
and you're running with a packof singles and you become the
person with the relationship,then shit changes.
You know, I mean shit changes.
Should changes with regards tothe conversations that you're
having.
You know, I mean, depending onwho you are, you know what

(39:17):
you're about should change withthe conversation that you're
having.
Um, the time spent, you knowthe times that they can actually
even call you know or stop by,you know, I mean or and be in
your physical presence becauseof the fact that now you
actually have, you know you took, you took root and something,
and it's not that right, right.
So yeah, just basically justhaving a to.

(39:41):
I've been that person.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Both.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
I've been.

Speaker 6 (39:46):
I've been both and people treat you different too.
Yeah, because there's on theflip side of that, when I
remember getting married andbeing like okay, uh, yeah, I
don't invite me out no more.
No, well, damn yeah and justcuz I'm married doesn't mean I
can't go outside.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
But you suck at being a wingman, you know.
Okay, but like I can go outsidebut you can't take one for the
team.
That's not what we was about.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
Did you like confront a bottle at how come.

Speaker 6 (40:16):
I think that there's.
I think people always thinkthat like oh, you're married,
you can't do this, or you'rewith someone, you can't do that,
and it's like, bro, like, butwe're friends.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
Yeah, so we're so.

Speaker 6 (40:26):
We're not friends no more because we can't be outside
like getting guys together orgetting girls together.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
We're not friends that then, you were not my
friend to begin with the firstplace, like, hey, how come you
don't invite me out?
Did you actually ask?

Speaker 1 (40:44):
But let me ask you, though, like if those were the
things and activities that youguys Partook in, then what?
Yeah, I mean, that's what itwas rooted in.
It was rooted in us going out,being able to do whatever,
whatever Flirting with whomeverwe want to flirt with the whole
tandem thing.
You know, that's what we did.
So when you take away a pieceof that magic, then of course

(41:06):
they gonna slide to the side andbe like you know, that's why
they're not my friend oh.

Speaker 6 (41:11):
I feel bad but I feel like that was when I was
younger, that's what.
I'm saying that was when I wasa lot younger.
My friends, now ourrelationships are not like that,
because we're just kind ofmature enough now to be like, oh
, we're friends, we're friendsWhatever happens Happens and we
just, you know we're gonna ridethrough it, regardless of what
it is.
But at 22 it was like we goingout, so you rolling or not, you

(41:33):
know that's, that, was that.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
But I do agree, like I wouldn't want to confront
somebody if they stop Invite meto stuff.
But now you're gonna get thecharity invite, like all you
know.
Karen else she did complainlast time, so let's invite it.
Let's, let's throw a lifeline.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
I don't want to throw in a no lifeline.
I'm even trying to have that.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Now I'm the designated driver here, hold my
keys hold my purse.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
Yes, you don't drink it anymore.
Yeah, I don't want to holdnobody purse in the club Watch
our drinks.

Speaker 5 (42:04):
She makes the mic get cut short.
Yeah, I take your murder.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Hold on now we all got to go cuz she drove.
That's kind of crazy.
Um yeah, what about you?

Speaker 3 (42:24):
No.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
I Definitely was that person, for sure.
You know, on both sides noteven a relationship side, but
also on the business side we getleft behind, right, we leave
people behind.
Like Karen said, there's acycle.
I've been left behind andthat's because our what we
wanted in life at the timedidn't align.

(42:48):
You know and I'm talking abouton a business level.
You know, I have a friend thatmakes a lot of money that
literally tried to drag me along, but it's not what I want to do
.
I don't want to do that.
You get what I'm saying.
So, whether intentional ornon-intentional, we all get left
behind.

(43:08):
I've left a Truckload ofmotherfuckers behind, right,
because my ambition didn't matchtheir ambition.
You know, they were satisfiedwith just running in place.
I don't want to run in place.
I'm not a running place type ofnigga.
That's just not what I do.
You understand.
I'm saying the scenery has tochange and the volume of the
income has to change as well.
So they both have to.

(43:29):
Actually, well, the income hasto go north.
The scenery, we can go, lad it,you know it could be linear or
whatever, but um, yeah, I'veleft people behind.
I've been left behind.
You know what about you?
Live you quiet over there?

Speaker 5 (43:42):
Oh no.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Yeah, that's one of the next question.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
Yeah, yeah, I know Karen just talked about how she
felt left behind.
You just say how you felt leftbehind.
I've been on that side, sameside too.
Well, yeah, let's have you beenleft behind in, just in case as
well, or?

Speaker 5 (43:56):
I mean, yeah, I've been, I was.
I'm glad you said it becauseit's both sides like for me.
I always go back to wherepeople grew up, like the
environment.
So the environment I grew up inA lot will made me leave some
people behind.
And then some people left mebehind because they went I'm

(44:16):
more educated, mm-hmm, startedmaking more money, so they
status change, mm-hmm.
So for me a Lot of things wasjust trying to figure things out
.
Like when you grow up andyou're not really thinking about
what your next step is right,you gonna get left behind
because you know you're notplaying it.
So I'm not a good planner.
So that's, that's a lot ofreason I got left behind and I'm

(44:39):
still working on playing, butNow I have a direction of where
I want to go.
So now I'm kind of movingforward.
So I'm kind of leaving peoplebehind, but now I'm trying to
catch that to other people right, exactly.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
And then going back to the arm, to what Karen said
earlier, like whereby I guessyou kind of alluded to like then
I'm a friends, he wasn't myfriend, you're not my friend,
she was a strain.

Speaker 6 (45:04):
No, no, I actually really, I actually really, but.
But I think now, when you'retalking about it, I don't think
I don't look at it as leftbehind, I just think you outgrow
people.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yeah, like.

Speaker 6 (45:15):
I'm being fun like they're not my friends, but I
just think that you outgrowpeople and I think it's okay to
outgrow people because we'reyou're not the same person you
were 10 years ago.
So then your friends are notgonna be the same people.
And I said that when I walksinto the room, All of you guys
like you're my friends and wejust all met in real life but we
all been talking and followed,but you, you meet this bunch of

(45:35):
creatives and you all worktogether and now you have
something in common where therecould be people you know your
whole life that ain't rootingfor you, and so you know you
just you grow to where youyou're nurtured and you're
respected and you you'reComfortable and you and you can
grow and you're watered, andthat's okay.
It's okay to be like you knowwhat.
It's time for me to move onfrom this or outgrow this.

(45:57):
And then there's other peoplethat are gonna circle back into
your life and that's okay too.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
Yeah, well, he bothered that.
I actually was gonna be aquestion I was gonna ask later
on in line, but you reallykilled that.
So, just Off of what Karen said, anybody else can answer as
well.
Hazard what?
How do you stay motivated orfocus on your own path even when
friends or family may notBelieve in or understanding what
you're trying to do, like, forexample, while doing this

(46:22):
podcast thing?
Like, how do you stay motivatedto do your extra curricular
Goals even outside of your nineto fives or whatever the case?

Speaker 1 (46:31):
is difficult.
This is extremely difficult.
Um what I did was I marriedanother creative there you go
right.
So you, she understands my pain,right, because she has you know
what she's doing and whenever Ifall to, she understands why.
She may not understand fully,because of you know it's a whole

(46:52):
different vertical, but sheunderstands, she gets it.
So what I try to do isbasically make sure that I'm
hugged.
One of her Biggest supporters,like I, put the pom-poms on
without understanding the night.
You know, we constantly likewhen we first got together, I
Was just like a fucking burden,literally like a burden.

(47:14):
She's like yo, I'm gonna do X,y, z, but because I burn so hot,
I'm just like so let's do itAll, right, cool, so she'll show
up the next day or we'll have aconversation the next day, and
I'm already 80 moves ahead,right, not moving at husband.
So that was one of the thingsthat I had to learn.
But getting back to what yousaid, though, that's what keeps
me motivated, and then I havecreated, such as yourselves,

(47:35):
that I make sure that I reachout to when I see you doing
something I know that couldcompliment what I'm doing, and
when I say that, I mean not justtaking what you do and then
adding it to what I do.
Now I'm talking about just howyou moving.
You know, if you're constantlyout there and anything, I'm a
quality whore.
So if you out there and I see abunch of whatever because I

(47:55):
noticed that you changed up yourpromotion, trust me, I noticed.
If you can ask me anything,about Carrell I'll tell you
about it.
You know I mean I'll tell youabout.
I'll tell you what I absolutelylove about it.
You know what I mean.
Um, that to me is important.
You know that that's important.
So that's how I self motivate.
You know, I go on the gram andI'm not flipping through all

(48:17):
these big booty chicks.
I don't know how to get in my Isort of I don't be like none of
them, I'll be poking fun at thefact that it's square All right
now.
I was saying, uh-huh, you guysactually motivate me.

(48:38):
So when you go through mytimeline, it is a lot of people
that actually motivate me andstuff that I'm actually doing.
So I have to self motivate.
A lot of times you get what I'msaying because she's off doing
her own thing and I need to stay.
Stay the course.
You know, and you guys alreadyknow, standing in the room, if
you're the dreamer, you'll bestanding amongst motherfuckers

(49:00):
that will are quick to dash yourdreams because they don't know
how to drink.
You know, and that's a problemfor me.
I don't want.
I want to be next to somebodydreaming the impossible.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
How can we get there?
It's impossible, I know.
Well, let's get there anyway,you know I mean.
So that's that's important tome okay, uh, well, I know.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
For me personally, uh , I think you know you and um,
styles, karen and style havegreat answers.
I think for me, what keeps memotivated is simply actually
just, you know the differenttype of strangers that you just
come across, that you didn'teven know supported you.
Um, I forget the person's namethat I was scrolling through
tic-tac I'm trying to be moreactive on tic-tac with some of

(49:42):
my content and she saidsomething I'm paraphrasing, but
she was said something along thelines of yes, your family and
friends love you, but they maynot understand what you do.
Therefore, you may not get thesupport from your family or
friends doesn't mean they don'tlove you.
They just may not understandthat, therefore, they don't
support it.
But if you just keep your headup, keep keep grinding, you'll
be surprised At how many otherstrangers that you never even

(50:06):
met would be some of yourbiggest supporters, and I've
seen that through Some myyoutube channel or someone just
like hey, man, that's a funnymovie review, which you did.
I thought that was dope.
I agree or disagree with yourpoint, but this is the third.
So I think just the how amazingit could be for a complete
stranger to Show support thatdon't even know you like that
from Adam, I think that's kind.

(50:27):
I think that feels kind ofamazing.
What about you?
Lamp?

Speaker 5 (50:31):
Well, for me, I'm gonna just be honest.
I don't like going to workEvery every like it feel like
you work five days to get theenjoy too.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
And I'm tired of that so.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
That's my one of my biggest motivations.
Also, like when I feel like I'mlosing motivation, I listen to
other podcasts.
Like I don't understand howpeople do podcasts but don't
listen to them.
That's like when I hear peoplesay I don't listen to podcasts,
they're lying lamp.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Huh they're lying that they don't listen.
No, that, yeah, they do listen.
They're telling you that youknow what?

Speaker 5 (51:10):
honestly I believe them.
I don't think they listen andhonestly know, well, it's gonna
be disrespectful.
They podcast show it becauseit's not that good.
Well see, I mean notdisrespectful.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
It's the truth.

Speaker 5 (51:22):
Um, and we not, we not podcast shaming, you know,
to each other no it's just, it'sa lot of them, you may listen
to my podcast and say it's notgood, but that's the thing,
though they so this is the thing.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
What happens is this, and you Probably a hundred
percent right.
My take on it is that they dolisten to podcasts.
They don't listen to their ownpodcasts.

Speaker 5 (51:41):
That's a problem and I'm gonna be honest, I don't
listen to my own.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
I'll listen to.

Speaker 5 (51:46):
Everybody podcast, but but that's what you have to.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
In terms of growth though You're, you're gonna miss
a lot by not listening to yourown podcast and what I'm saying
you don't have to listen toevery one of them, right, but
Not listening to your podcast,right?
It's basically you running inplace, you just gonna run in
place.
So, however you start it,that's how you're going in every
episode.

Speaker 5 (52:09):
So here's the thing when I'm adding in it, I have to
listen.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
But when I?

Speaker 5 (52:14):
say I listen, I'm not listening.
It's more like the fullplayback yeah, like, like,
because I'm adding it.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
So I gotta listen.

Speaker 5 (52:21):
Mm-hmm but I'm not consuming it because I was
already there.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
You, you were there, but you were there in the moment
.
So, with you being there in themoment, what I do is, after I
edit it and bust it down, I'mlistening to it and the call on
the way to work.
I'm a captive audience.
Now I can't do any.
I have to listen to it.
I'm gonna find shit that I'mlike that's fucked up.
I shouldn't have said it theway.
I said that, and you know meand how did I miss when this

(52:45):
person said that and I couldhave Capitalized and did
something else with it.
You get what I'm saying.
So your pivot game becomesbetter because of the fact that
you're listening to yourself.
It's, it's that's how you growum, I don't disagree.

Speaker 5 (52:59):
I don't disagree.
Um, I watched.
You know me.
I watched a lot of sports and Iwas listening to skip Baylor's
I know people don't like skipBaylor's right and he said he
never listens to his stuff and Ithink skip is really good.
Me person right like yeah, youhate it, but he's good at what
he does.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
So some for some people.

Speaker 5 (53:18):
It's literally like, and I could be doing myself a
disservice, but it's like I,literally I, I just cannot go
back and watch it and listen.
I'm listening to.
I've recorded like 300 episodes.
Hmm, I think I like really satdown and listened to about 10 of
them.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
I don't listen to all my episodes.
Maybe I'll listen to the onesthat I sat down, like, for
instance, this I'm gonna listento because I'm like, damn, I'm
enjoying it, so I'm gonna listento it their episodes that I
have done and I'm like Listen tothat shit and see that's
different too, because it's,it's, it's.

Speaker 5 (53:51):
It's like five of us right.
So I don't, I wasn't, becausefor me, when I so, when I'm
doing my podcast, I'm alreadytrying to frame up the next
question Okay, this, this, this.
So it's like I've worked, I'veworked really hard to thinking
that question Mm-hmm.
So they answered it.

(54:12):
I heard it, I remember it.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
Gotcha.
Well, I mean there was a month,I think we pretty much covered
the topic.
I mean there was a few otherfollow-up questions, but I think
just in natural conversation,natural flow Really hit all the
bells and whistles.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
I think I had a.
There was a couple in here.
Let me see, I want to know,like, for instance, there are
people and I'm gonna throw thisat you that you carry so you can
knock somebody head off.
You know, like, how do you like, for instance, the people that
are or have the people in theirlives you know that aren't

(54:48):
aligning, I guess, with theirgoals, how do you have that
conversation with them?
You know, I mean, how do youapproach that?
You got a friend?
now, this is a friend and youknow you're realizing that
you're outpacing them in a fewdifferent ways.
So you're growing apart.
But you don't want to growapart.
You kind of want to pull themalong because they have
potential, right.
So how do you have theconversation?

(55:10):
Do you have the conversation?
You just go to them.

Speaker 6 (55:15):
Yeah, I'm not a point in my life where I'm not
telling anybody what to do orhow to do it, or, or, or or,
saying you have potential.
That's like me being arelationship with a man telling
him he got potential and I seehis potential and I got it.
What difference is that if it'sa male or female?

Speaker 2 (55:33):
and.

Speaker 6 (55:33):
I'm still pouring into somebody who's not pouring
into theyself and I'm draggingthem with me.
Nah, that's your mama problem,that's not my problem.
I'm not having thatconversation.
You're an adult, you'll figureit out, but I'm not.
I'm not at a place in my lifewhere I have energy to Navigate
somebody else's life.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
So if y'all grow apart, y'all, just that's just
what it is.

Speaker 6 (55:54):
I'll be here when you ready.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
So I got a round table question what strategies,
things?
This was a good one.
It's always like I'm findingagain.
What strategies have you usedto build a smaller, more
supportive Circle of Friends?
Right, because you hadmentioned before you were like
yo, you could have people thatyou know all your life and they
won't support you.
And for me, I think that's kindof crazy when you think about

(56:20):
it, because we're all older now.
Yeah, so, hindsight being 2020,we've all done that too.
Right, we've been that friendwith another friend doing
something Astronomically good,but you know, just not our thing
and we won't support them.
Right, won't drop by their,their Graham and drop a like
just to show support.

(56:41):
You understand, I'm saying gainsome type of momentum or
whatever.
What strategies have you or andthis is for everybody right?
Right, have we gotten, or use,rather, to tighten up that
circle and just build on thatfoundation?

Speaker 4 (56:56):
specifically, I wouldn't say what answer.
Of course I don't have any typeof set X and O strategy, but
like, for example, like the sameset of friends who I grew up
not grow up I've known him sincecollege Shout out to Preston
travels in my lifetime.
That's somebody who I grew upwith and he's doing his old.

(57:17):
You know.
It has this whole YouTube thingas well and we just one day
since we both got our ownchannel we just like a, no
matter what, a, if a channelcomes across my feed, no matter
what I'm doing, I definitelywill watch the video in its
entirety because that counts interms of YouTube analytics, and
I'm gonna give it a, you know, alike and and at least a short
comment at the least.

(57:37):
And vice versa, like I Coulddrop a YouTube video up, you
know, recapping the latestepisode of BMF, for example, if
it comes across his feet, he'sthat that's gonna be like a
guarantee.
I'ma like it and I'm letting youknow what I thought about that
was for this.
Well, I mean, so that's justkind of like this, you know.
You know, like unofficialagreement.

(57:58):
We have right.
Whatever you do, I'm a supportand likewise, and that's really
the type of strategy we have,and same with my other friend.
He doesn't have a YouTubehimself.
The same thing if he sees it,he's gonna support it.
That's just what it is.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Okay, all right.
What about you?

Speaker 5 (58:12):
I mean, um, for me personally, like it depends on
what they know, like if they.
So for me, if you have abusiness where you selling
something, I'm always by now, Ican't promise you I'm gonna use
it or like it.
Hmm, I will buy it.
Mm-hmm, some stuff I use and ILike it, right stuff.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
It's like a man.

Speaker 5 (58:34):
I just want to see you win, so I bought it.
So it's so cool cuz for me.
This, I mean this, this is myopinion.
Support for me is financial.
Hmm, like the likes and stuffis great and it's cool, but if
somebody selling something it'slike you do, it goes much

(58:54):
further when you buy it.
So I'm a money person.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
I Think it's two-fold .
Actually, the easiest way,obviously, is to drop a light,
you know, and because it helpswith the algorithm you know to,
to bring more eyes to that youknow specific thing or whatever
product is there I'm selling.
I'm with the money thing too,cuz I'm like that too, like you

(59:19):
can throw money at it, obviously, you know.
But once you throw money at itlike, for instance, if I get a
shirt from somebody and I'vebeen known to do it In the past,
especially during COVID I wasbuying up mad shit and just
putting it on and flicking it upwith with that.
You know that's showing likesupport as well, right, mm-hmm?
Speaking of which, I'm workingon my safe loud too, cuz, you

(59:40):
know you got like ten differentstores.
So, so, um, you know that thatfor me, shows that somebody's
had.
You know, you, you'resupporting somebody for real.
You know, um, I've tightened upthat circle because I realized
that a lot of people talk justcuz they like to hear the sound
of they voices.
You give them saying nod.

(01:00:00):
You know that I'm like actionsspeak louder than words, you're
not even you're not evendropping a like and that's easy
and I'm done.
I'm not begging for likes.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not begging for likes cuzwe all know that we have to
reach beyond our circlesometimes in order to Game
momentum, get momentum and showlike that's all of them, yeah,
it's all the time.
But then you also have thosefriends right that do shit.

(01:00:22):
That you like.
I can't stand behind that.
I'm not reposting that.
I can't repost that.

Speaker 6 (01:00:30):
Like can you, can you repost this for me?
And I'm like what I'm doing?
Then they gonna think that Isaid that and I didn't say that.
You know, so you have to, youhave to.
You kind of got to be cautioussometimes and tell people no.
But for the most part also, Ithink in the position we're in
and we have a platform, thereare people too that you're like

(01:00:53):
okay, I am in a place where Ican give somebody a voice so I
can help somebody else.
Just like they can help me, andso that you got to look at it
that way too and and be able tosupport a lot of other people in
the way you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
However, you can do it too and it's kind of like
sketchy, because you know, ofcourse, your friends are your
friends.
You don't want them to.
I want my friends to support mebecause they like what I do.
Yeah, I don't want my friendsto support me because they're my
friends, right?
That's why I guess, on theother side of it, I don't give
the people that I love don'tsupport what I'm doing, because
that just means that you knownow have to work on what I'm

(01:01:28):
doing, you know, to broaden myreach.
That's all that means, you know.
I mean, don't, don't tell meyour style.
You know, I really feel the pubI used to have people like.
You know, how do I get on yourpodcast?
Have you listened to my podcast?
Nah, get the fuck away from methen.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
What we talking about right now.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Yeah, cuz this, you know that that's gonna be a one
and done.
They're gonna come on, they'regonna promote their episode.
You don't like the product, youjust like the platform.

Speaker 5 (01:01:57):
That's it you know and I need promote themselves
eggs.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Yeah, exactly exactly you know.
So I mean, it is what it is, umoh.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
Well, all right, so kind of going backwards a little
bit.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
I'm about to say could you have like 50 questions
on it?
He asked like three questionswas like all right, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
Was flowing so smooth .
Some of them did get answers.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Yeah, yeah, that's a fact though.

Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
So I you know, but okay, so I Know there's a.
Is there a thin line between,like a yes man and someone who
can really just Support what youdo like?
Is there a thin line betweenthat?
Anybody can answer.
I'll say yes, okay, yeah, yeah,like so are you able to spot
the difference?

Speaker 5 (01:02:42):
in that case, oh, okay, so you said they yes, me,
yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
Like, for example, when your homeboys is like you
know, no matter what you say,lamp could be like you know what
?
I think I'm gonna be anastronaut.
He's like yo, go do it.
And it's like you have no mathor science.

Speaker 5 (01:03:00):
No, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Yes, man so we class was lunchroom, right.

Speaker 5 (01:03:05):
I'll say this, this, this one of the this one of the
most interesting things.
Like I got a friend and me andhim talk every day and he, he
told me, but I won't listen to.
But the thing is, if I told him, hey, I need a hundred dollars,
he would do it.

(01:03:26):
He just not gonna listen.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
And not only that, though the day that he sat down
or sits down is like your land.
I Didn't realize you was thatnice.
That's what is gonna mean.

Speaker 5 (01:03:38):
One day we was talking and he he listened to an
episode and I was like we hearthat from him.
He was like when you said it onthe podcast, but you don't
listen to my podcast.
He said, oh, I listen to thatepisode.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Damn.

Speaker 5 (01:03:55):
See, but here, but here, real one like that goes,
goes a long way.
Yeah, yeah, he like he saw this.
So it's like I know like he.
When I was married my wife wasnot listening to my pocket, but
she would buy me Whatever Ineeded, supported me.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
So it's like just be honest with me for real, like
yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm notlistening every episode, you
know what, and it's funny Tospot the difference, right, yeah
, in order to spot thedifference between the guests
man and somebody else, or youknow, that's genuinely just
supporting you.
You got look for theconsistency.
Yeah, right, cuz everybody thatloves you is gonna do it on the

(01:04:32):
ask, if I ask you and do right,do it when I don't ask you to
do it.
You get what I'm saying and thenit's like I I've gotten to the
point.
I used to really take itpersonal when people didn't
listen and I'm talking aboutpeople that I love, that in my
circle, didn't Agree with what Iwas doing.
I am fuck agree that I'm grown.

(01:04:53):
It's not that they agreed oranything, but they it wasn't
their thing.

Speaker 4 (01:04:58):
Okay, right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
But then you'll, you'll slide in and they listen
into the breakfast love no youlisten to the breakfast love
they get what you.
I thought podcast wasn't yourthing.

Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
But you know what to be, to be fair.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Something about people being famous yeah so I'm
like right, that's all about.

Speaker 5 (01:05:16):
That's the benefit of being famous you can be saying
the same shit.
Yeah, you was probably sayingbetter shit coming up, yeah but
you got famous and now peoplelistening it's like, but now I
got a name and some recognitionand it's like, well, I Hear you
now like I didn't care about youseven years ago.

(01:05:38):
Yeah, you made me care now, soit's like Right there, I'm not
ever miles.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
I remember somebody.
I forget what it was, so youknow, you remember like back in
the Napster era or stuff likethat.
I remember it was like someunreleased Biggie song and we
would you goof around and thinkwe were saying some like dope,
freestyle or something like that.
I remember I'll bit every ballfrom like this unreleased Biggie
song that came out like maybetwo months later like publicly

(01:06:04):
and I said the same exact ball,like at lunch at lunch or
something.
I mean I can get that dumb shitout of here.
Two months later, when Biggiesaid it was like man, that's
your fire.
Yeah, just being goofy, youknow, at lunch or something.
But, um, I want to go back tosome to your point about you say
, like you know, just dosomething without me having to

(01:06:25):
ask.
I really feel like that'sanother line of like.
You said, someone, someone who's, that's a big difference.
Like you know, like couple, myfriends, my homeboys, if they
have events, stuff like thatwith a photographer is needed.
Like you know, I never have tobe like a.
If y'all know any gigs, let meknow.
Like automatically They'd be.
Like a I got somebody who wouldreally help out for your baby

(01:06:47):
shower in terms of photography,yeah, you know, and that's
that's what it is.
It's not like I have to ask orbeg any of my closest friends,
it's automatic.
Hey, you need a photographer.
I know someone who's reallygood and, you know, has a pretty
Affordable pricing in terms ofa rate.
So stuff like that.
I think that's a really.
That's really the onlydifference I could think of in
terms of the difference between,to your point, a yes man or

(01:07:09):
someone who was just like yeah,I just support you, just because
I'm genuine about it.
Yeah, so yeah.
What about you, shadron?
Hold on In terms of like youknow, do you have any, you know,
yes, man moments, or someonejust a blindly agreeing with you
because you know you're thedope Shadron style.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
No, because for one, my circle is really small, okay,
very small, and you know, meand my friends, we both, I mean
we're, we're pretty much, we'redefinitely not yes, me, I mean
yes women to each other like we.
You know, if something needs tobe said, we say it.
I don't care if it's gonna hurtyour feelings.

(01:07:51):
Like you know, if you're wrongand you know whatever you're
doing or whatever, then you knowwe'll speak, you know we'll,
we'll say that to each other.
But but yeah, I've never, Ihaven't been any Situations
where it's, you know, like I'vebeen a yes girl or somebody's
just agreeing with me, just tobe agreeing with me, because,
like that, that's kind of fake.

(01:08:12):
So I don't feel good withfakeness.
No, I Don't do good withfakeness.
So, yeah, so I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:08:24):
Okay, All right.
Can I be honest about somethingplease?

Speaker 4 (01:08:27):
I.

Speaker 5 (01:08:31):
Told people some stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:08:36):
Why'd you do that?

Speaker 5 (01:08:37):
because for me, right when I know somebody passionate
about something I don't want torob Now, and I know that's
probably not a good thing- yeah,you can't ride.
Oh, yeah, I'm not listening,cuz I, let's be clear if you
grow feathers, you could fly.
I know and not so did.
So here's the thing.

(01:08:57):
It's weird, cuz if I know you,I won't do it right.
But if I don't know you, it'slike.

Speaker 6 (01:09:09):
That's funny, cuz I'm the opposite.
If I know you, I will tell you,but that's what I'm saying
because I know you enough that Icould well no, if I don't know,
if I don't know you.
I will not, I will not tell youleave it alone.
I'd be like I don't know thisperson, I'm not gonna hurt them.
You go, fly baby with yourlittle wings.
But if I know you, I will tellyou the truth, because I also

(01:09:33):
know that.

Speaker 5 (01:09:34):
You can do that.
Yeah, and that's what I'msaying.

Speaker 6 (01:09:35):
That's what I'm saying cuz I like.

Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
I'ma say, I had a cousin, I know him, he was
rapping.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
He was rapping it wasn't good.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
You're about 48 but, Nah well, he don't know.
That ain't nothing, he openingup for the bidet.

Speaker 5 (01:09:54):
But, but.
But what happened was?
He went back, started writing.
I said, oh, I Could tell youbeing, you know, right, right,
it's gotten a lot better, right.
So it was genuine.
But I'm saying like peopleselling stuff, like one of my
friends got on me about aProduct I bought and I gave it a
review and she was like no, itwasn't that good.

(01:10:15):
And I was like, yeah, probablywasn't, but she's selling the
product.
I don't want to be the one tostop her sales, so I ride it,
just embellished the truth alittle, a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
A lot.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
You said a raving review.

Speaker 5 (01:10:44):
I'm working on that cuz my word need to be good.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
I had no, no, I had you, I had you, but I think that
I've done it.
You know, yeah, I've done it andfor me, I'm not gonna.
I don't want to be a yes man,you understand.
I'm saying I don't feel likeI've ever been in a position
where I was a yes man, like I'mjust like I need this person to
be cool with me.
So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now, whatever you do, that's,that's what it is.

(01:11:06):
Blah, blah.
I haven't done that, but I doapproach it from a constructive
point.
So like, for instance, if youtell me you want to do something
, right, there's a way to do it.
It may not be my line ofbusiness or whatever, but
remember, everything Starts fromsomewhere.
You wouldn't just throw thatout.

Speaker 5 (01:11:28):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
Thanks.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
I was trying to do now verbal now verbal, I know,
but you all, I see in myperipheral is the water bottle
going up.

Speaker 5 (01:11:46):
I need one oh.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
Non-verbal communication is it was like
what?
The bike?
We all think it like.
You don't do something likethis water in that bottle, so he
can't possibly.
So to give you a classicexample, right, let's go back to

(01:12:14):
the rapping thing.
Yeah, right, and he's not.
You know, he wasn't good.
He was not no, which is cool.
I think we've all had thatperson in our family who rapped.
That was not good right andtheir heart was in it.
I used to want to be a rapper,but I'm from that that age, you
know.
I mean, so it's like kind oflike you either play ball or you
rap.
No, he sold drugs is one ofthose.

(01:12:36):
But Did you like?
Did you then hit him with alike Constructively, like yo?
I think you need to do X, y, zor then bring him.
You know genres of rap that youyou like.
No, I was bad, I just don't butsee.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
The crazy part is I.

Speaker 5 (01:12:59):
Kind of like normally I wouldn't do that.
I wouldn't do it, but I crushedthem, I just crushed them, yeah
but something told me do itbecause I would never do that.
Yeah, but he, but for somereason it worked on him.
So maybe he needed, maybe heneeded me, a nice guy to just
crush him.
Yeah, but you ain't know thatthough, I didn't, but maybe it
was a good man was on suicidewatch for whole month.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
No, no, he.

Speaker 5 (01:13:23):
Damn, we didn't talk about it, no more.
He just started working andwriting and I was like, but he
knew, you know when, when hecame back with something good, I
was sure that I'm the same way.
I crushed them, yeah, builtthem right back up, because he
came back with something reallygood.
What if he never came back?
Well then, he wasn't supposedto be a rapper.
I.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
My cousin's a asshole .

Speaker 4 (01:13:50):
Well, well, speaking of advice, what?
What advice would you give tosomeone or a friend who was
struggling to find a circle ofsupportive people Like the same
example?

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
okay, he over here we're going to take questions.
I know that we said thatalready.

Speaker 5 (01:14:06):
I don't know, but I'll answer it like to me.
You don't find it, it finds you.
Oh so I wouldn't give you noadvice.
It's the people who gonnasupport you doing.
They gonna gravitate towardsyou.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
Like don't need to look for gotcha, that would be
my first.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
All right, well, I guess.
With that say, I guess we kindof beat the topic to the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Now was officially done.
I can't even I'm combingthrough the questions like what
we got in?
Yeah, we ain't got nothing.
So I guess we gonna talk aboutyou know, limbs like eight inch
man against.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Oh yeah, let's do it oh.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
Yeah, I'm gonna do that and, of course, definitely.
I Would definitely love to hearthe different takes when it
comes to how important yourcredit score is nowadays.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
So they night sexy nights and good food.

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
Yeah, oh, so me again .
No, I got you okay.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
So now there's a new dating app, right, and I'm gonna
act like I stumbled upon it,but I really didn't, right?
So for this episode sponsoredby Ryan Cuz Ryan, literally,
he's sent over all the shownotes for this shit I was like
copy and paste is my middle nameso.
Then now is a new, a new datingapp, right, so the new dating

(01:15:25):
app isn't so new now because itwants, like after Valentine's
Day, right, so you have to haveit's cool score.
You got to have a 675, you knowum credit score to use it.
Right, so they run your creditAll right.
And we, we found some amount oftalk about two seconds, right.
So the idea for the app wasconceived at last year's afro

(01:15:48):
tech.
Ironic, right, keep that inmind.
Afro tech All right, neon moneyclub was already looking for
ways to address credit healthand it threw the poor through a
party that Saw hundreds ofpeople flood the streets in
downtown Austin.
So this happened in Texas, forthose that don't know, as people
lined up barely and his teamstarted to ponder what they

(01:16:11):
could use these party go, what,what they could ask these party
goers that would make them feelcomfortable talking about
finances and, I guess,relationships was.
So it was a good tie-in, right,it's a good time now.
Let's start a pot a little bit.
Okay, let's do it.
These are black people, right,that started the shit.

(01:16:35):
Right, the credit score is 675now.
It's not telling you thatpeople of other color can't join
at all.
It said the, the.
It was just created by blackpeople, right, peanut butter and
all those other shit, right.

(01:16:56):
So I looked up the median forpeople of our complexion in
terms of credit score, whichthey know, trust me, they know
it was like 640.
Oh, I saw that because the plotthickens.
So then me and my business mind.
I was like so let's try touncover what their business

(01:17:18):
model actually is.
Is it the dating app?
Well, the services of thedating app that have nothing to
do with dating.
So what they're doing basicallyis targeting the people that
can't, because, of course,they're playing on your heart
strings.
They're doing a whole tenderthing, but they're like all
right, cool, if you don't makeit, I can show you for fee how

(01:17:40):
to get your credit up.

Speaker 4 (01:17:41):
Yeah, I didn't see that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
Yeah, like that right , they back door dirty it is you
see how they back door?
That's wicked, it is they ranyour credit, which fucked your
shit up, because you want to,you know, be humping on
something right or somebody withResponsibly it calls right
financially responsible people.
I'm only having sex withfinancially Responsible people.

Speaker 6 (01:18:06):
No, I'm only paying to have sex with.
There we go there we go.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
I was like I was like shadow.
You see what they trying to doto us.
I was like this shit is funnyas fuck, because I literally
just started to uncover thislast night as I copy and pasted.
I was like let me go and lookat this so I can speak to it,
isn't it though?
Yes that's right and genius atthe same time, though it's
wicked.
Think about it, cause wealready have.

(01:18:34):
We already have, like, all ofthese credit repair companies
and stuff like that, right.

Speaker 6 (01:18:38):
They're already attacking you.
I wanna know who their targetdemographic is.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Oh, it says it with this credit score.

Speaker 6 (01:18:44):
Yeah, besides it, like is it women between the age
of blank and blank?
Because there is a veryvulnerable community somewhere
and they're gonna zone in onsomebody.

Speaker 5 (01:18:55):
Well, I mean, he just said the meeting for just yeah,
but but she, wants to know the.

Speaker 6 (01:19:00):
I wanna know the.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Literally drilled down, even a little bit deeper.

Speaker 6 (01:19:03):
So when you think about demographic, like my
podcast is 35 to 44, right sothe age range, everybody listens
, but it's particularly 35 to 44, and it's like 60, 40 men,
women, okay.
So when you think aboutdemographic, so you can't tell
me that they don't know whothey're looking for when they're
selling that, cause they knowexactly what age group and they

(01:19:26):
know exactly who they'retargeting.
I was saying women, yeah,that's what I'm saying.
They're looking for women who'scredit ain't good, who want a
rich man with a 670 credit scoreand she gonna pay to fix her
credit so she could date thatrich guy.
They know exactly what they'redoing.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
I'm about to toss my iPad cause I wasn't even
thinking about it.

Speaker 6 (01:19:45):
They know exactly what they're doing.
Look at her face.

Speaker 4 (01:19:48):
She broken on some short like home shit.

Speaker 6 (01:19:51):
That was that yo, they know exactly what they're
doing.
Because why I mean you come onpinpoint that, pinpoint that?
Who are you selling that toSugar?

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
babies.

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
Sugar babies.

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
Because think about it the other way.

Speaker 6 (01:20:05):
A guy is gonna be like why I'm paying you $1,000
to go meet these chicks.
I could go meet chickssomewhere else.
I could go to brunch Pay less,that's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:20:15):
Yeah especially if you're ready to go.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Or you can go to pay less and then go to brunch.
Cause pay less?
I'm talking about the store,see what I did there.

Speaker 6 (01:20:22):
But but this, this is .
This is they're targeting.
They're targeting women who arelonely, who wanna date a guy
that has a 670 credit score, anice car right you need?
You need about a 670s 660 toget American Express.
So that's who that woman wantsand she's willing to pay.

Speaker 4 (01:20:45):
To get on that level.

Speaker 6 (01:20:47):
To meet those men Is like the minimum.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
To meet those men.
That's just to get in the door.
You know 675.

Speaker 6 (01:20:52):
But that's where you're gonna meet those men.

Speaker 4 (01:20:53):
675 to get a door?

Speaker 6 (01:20:54):
Yeah, you gotta have a minimum of 675 or higher to
get on that app, so that's whereyou're gonna meet those men.
So if you wanna be a sugar babyand get in a sugar baby club,
get your numbers up.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
That's where you gotta go.
Damn, she broke her down Like Ididn't even think about all
that.
I was about to just say is it agood idea, a bad idea?

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
Stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
Why or why not?
It's crazy.
She hit it with the word like ahome.
Listen, I threw it at Aliou.

Speaker 5 (01:21:17):
She took you, she spotted that shit and was like I
don't want it right now Cross acouple of people.

Speaker 4 (01:21:24):
You know what I'm saying.
So so, karen, do you thinkoverall?
Do you think this is a bad idea, good idea or what?

Speaker 6 (01:21:30):
I actually think that there's other.
This is not the first peoplethat did.
Well, they might be the firstpeople with the credit stuff,
but they have other ones thatthey've been doing, made by
other companies.
Like they have sugar baby appswhere, like for men that are
looking for women, women lookingfor men I think this is the
first one, maybe for a blackcompany A and maybe for people

(01:21:51):
that gotta raise their creditscores and things like that,
using that as a selling point.
But this isn't the first one.
But this is like sad, like thisis kind of foul, but it's going
to work.
It's going to work.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
Oh, hold on, it is, it's going to work.
So what they got?
I think that the let me see theexclusionary aspect of the app
is no doubt going to rub somepeople the wrong way, especially
when you consider that theaverage US citizen US citizen
credit scores 716, with theblack and Hispanic people more

(01:22:25):
likely At 640.
Right, exactly, score below 640.
Actually, you know, and here wego.
This is the important partthose denied access to score
will be sent resources toimprove their financial literacy
.

Speaker 6 (01:22:38):
Right, so it's a hard market, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:22:43):
Get the fuck I ain't going for, like the, the, the,
the book I thought about when itcame to this topic was, like
you know, it's just men andwomen looking for people who are
financially responsible, andthat that's as far as I got.
I thought it was just good.
I mean, you know like good.
I think that's a part of it.

Speaker 6 (01:22:58):
Yeah, or it's just black people taking advantage of
other black people and sayingthat they're going to fix them
up with people, when really youjust trying to fix their credit
and make some money.
You could have just said that.

Speaker 5 (01:23:11):
Well, you know the after tech, but yeah, but this
is just said you was going tofix my credit for five hundred
dollars.

Speaker 6 (01:23:19):
You may have to play with my heart strings.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
But, but the thing is at the end of the day, though,
they were like listen, I got tobe different.
Out here we all wear in clothes.

Speaker 5 (01:23:29):
Give me the different clothes, but I mean it's funny
that you say that, because Imean, that's what, that's what
women are.

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
And I'm only saying.

Speaker 5 (01:23:37):
Women know it's true because that's just what the
numbers show.
That's a women looking for.
So it's like if you couldcombine them both.

Speaker 6 (01:23:44):
Not only is that what women are looking for.
That's what women are willingto invest in.

Speaker 5 (01:23:50):
Because we not?

Speaker 6 (01:23:51):
men don't invest in things like that.
They're not willing to pay forstuff like that.

Speaker 5 (01:23:55):
I'm not paying three dollars for them.

Speaker 4 (01:23:56):
I think that's what you're going to do.
You got well.
Let me ask you this, Becauseyou're sure you got it just
because you have a good credit,so it doesn't mean you're like
this wealthy sugar daddy typedude.
You know you could.
You could qualify to be on theapp and still live, page after
page.

Speaker 6 (01:24:11):
Yeah, but credit just means you make the minimum
payment, but 60 percent, 70percent of women will be willing
to take that chance.
Yeah, ok, and lose money on it.
I would invest in this companybecause I will make money on it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
Fitness is still get my twenty dollars every month.
I have not seen the inside of afucking planted fitness in a
well over a year.

Speaker 5 (01:24:35):
So make the style again, motivate you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
Who Wait what?
I didn't even know she's inplanted fitness right now.

Speaker 4 (01:24:41):
She got all the planted fitness.
She got the doing the mag tostay in need Mom exercises and
stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:24:46):
I wouldn't go put that on you.
No, no, no no no, I just wassaying you know may talk in a
new voice.
No, I ain't rocking with makelike that.
Me, I ain't rocking with that,you can see she got Tory locked
up.

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
Ah, he has another topic.
Yeah, another topic.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
Yeah, that's a rabbit hole.

Speaker 5 (01:25:03):
I just want to throw that in going with you.
You can have that one byyourself.

Speaker 4 (01:25:10):
So, overall, the most of y'all just think it's a bad
idea for this, the school creditapp thing, oh no, no, no, it's
an excellent idea.

Speaker 6 (01:25:16):
It's a good investment.

Speaker 5 (01:25:17):
It's an excellent idea.

Speaker 6 (01:25:18):
Like we should all buy stock and then pull out in a
year.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
No, I think All right .

Speaker 5 (01:25:22):
So let me see if I can find somebody taking
advantage of you.
Don't mean it's not a greatidea.

Speaker 6 (01:25:26):
No, we should take advantage.
That's what I'm saying, worse.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
Because, look they, they raise.
The company has raised morethan 10 million of venture
capital corner pitch book, sothey've gotten 10 million in
capital, actually pushed thisforward.
And remember, they're justinvesting in technology, not
actually not actual pushing itout.
Right, so it's just literallythe technology right now.
Who knows what they're doing,as you know, as far as marketing

(01:25:52):
is concerned, and how they'regoing to twist and turn this and
whatever, because you know thefine print is right here.

Speaker 6 (01:25:59):
It won't last long.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
You don't think so?

Speaker 6 (01:26:01):
No it won't last long but it'll last long enough for
us to make some money, but it'snot going last long enough for
it, because the way technologychanges, it's not going to last
long, but it will last longenough for them to make money
for the stockholders, make moneyfor us to make money for them
to maybe, you know, meet acouple people and then get out
they're going to make, they'regoing to make millions.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
But they're not even going to be done.
But see, there's a thing,though it's a private company
right now they're not, they'renot yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:26:27):
So they'll make their money.

Speaker 4 (01:26:29):
They'll make it, they smart.

Speaker 6 (01:26:30):
They get in, they get out.

Speaker 4 (01:26:31):
Yeah, because in that same source that you're getting
, it says like they're just,they're going to be temporarily
available, they're going to,they're going to be open for 90
days, for whatever reason.
Well, testing.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
You got to test, you got to do.
A test run to do the quick ride.
Yeah, that too.
Yeah, the quick it's givingPonzi scheme.
I don't know, I

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
got to meet someone in 90 days.

Speaker 6 (01:26:51):
I only got 90 days for you to fix my credit and
meet someone.
Yes, it's the whole companydisappear.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
No, no, no, no.
So I think that what's going tohappen is this they're not
taking applications beyond 90days, so you can't join beyond
90 days so whoever's in that?
Pool.
That's what they rob it.

Speaker 6 (01:27:08):
That's still.
I don't know if that's goodeither.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:27:11):
Because you don't know what you're getting either.
Well, again I could be pee inthe pool, I think it is
definitely.

Speaker 4 (01:27:18):
I'm about to say I'm a merry man, but I keep hearing
pee in the dating pool and alltypes of other foreign stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:27:24):
I mean, that's a mentality thing, but we're not
going to go, All right singleguy I know what it's saying.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
If you think I'm trying to keep hope alive, I'm
out here, floating around.

Speaker 5 (01:27:33):
Huh, I'm good, good them dating waters, clear water
for me.

Speaker 4 (01:27:40):
Oh, like I got my inner two.
I'm not talking about.

Speaker 5 (01:27:44):
I'm not laughing.
Let me look, yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (01:27:46):
I would love to.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
I'm going to say this , and I know, that's going to
fuck some people up.

Speaker 5 (01:27:50):
but man, look, you're a man.
The odds like four or five.
The one of your favor, you outhere struggling to brush you, is
I, is you OK?

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
I'm going to take your word for it.
Is you?
I'm taking word for it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:04):
Oh, speaking of that, I know you said you had some
recent good times.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
That was a perfect segue.
I know let's talk about yourValentine's Day shenanigans what
?

Speaker 5 (01:28:14):
was shenanigans, I don't know.
Let me get some water on this.
Yeah, I want to be all chokedup.
So Valentine's Day I wasn'tgoing to celebrate it at first.
Right, I was not going tocelebrate it, because when

(01:28:35):
Valentine's Day gives this ideathat we together right, so I was
, I mean her been kind of goingout, we not we're not a couple,
but we've been, you know, we'vebeen companions.
So I was like you know what,not doing that.
But then I thought about it.
I said you know what?
She took me out for my birthday.

(01:28:57):
She's done a lot of nice thingsfor me.
Why should she sit in the house, you know, on Valentine's Day
thinking, damn, another year Idon't have nobody?
I say you know what, you can goout.
So I said, can I ask you aquestion?

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (01:29:19):
Does she listen to the podcast?
She might.

Speaker 5 (01:29:23):
Don't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
I'm just saying you're making it sound like a
pity day right now.

Speaker 5 (01:29:27):
No, it's no because we know.
No, no, no, we had OK, so allright.
So this is make it OK.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
Let me clean it up and I'm glad you say that.

Speaker 5 (01:29:35):
That's why yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
I got.

Speaker 5 (01:29:37):
I got.
I got.
She's a very attractive woman,so there's not no pity day.
So it was just some somebody'sdoing something nice for you,
like why not be nice for them,like I look at.
So here's one of the biggestmotivating factors for me, right
, what if something happens tothat person at that moment,

(01:29:57):
right, and you didn't get achance to show gratitude Because
, like I said, she's done a lotof nice things for me.
So it wasn't a pity day.
It was just I'm repaying thekind gesture you because she
made my birthday special.
When was your birthday again?
January 26th, ok, so it was afew weeks before Valentine's.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
Day Right right.

Speaker 5 (01:30:16):
He made my violence.
She made my birthday specialand then she invited me over for
the Super Bowl.
She showed you know all thepieces cooked wings right made
that enjoyable.
So it's like when somebody isdoing things to make your life
enjoyable, you should do thesame for them, whether it's
Valentine's Day or not.
Like you can't get distractedabout oh, it's Valentine's Day.

(01:30:39):
You don't want people to thinkwe already had a conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:30:42):
Right, so so your brother is 26.
26 January, god Valentine's Day, was 14.

Speaker 5 (01:30:47):
About three weeks later.

Speaker 1 (01:30:49):
So you waited three weeks.
Is he going to?

Speaker 5 (01:30:51):
No no.

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
I was asking, I'm asking.

Speaker 5 (01:30:54):
We've got again.
Can we give her a name please?

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
Because I want to keep calling it like this no, no
, no, no no no, we're going togive her a name, let's call us.
Oh yeah, whatever, yeah, goahead, Senty, that's to me so no
, no, no no not yeah

Speaker 5 (01:31:08):
you know what?

Speaker 4 (01:31:08):
sent it.

Speaker 5 (01:31:10):
Not sent, not sent the is not sent.

Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
Cynthia, this is not for you.

Speaker 5 (01:31:14):
Not no, no, no, we're going to call a roadcaster.
How about we just call the joy?

Speaker 4 (01:31:19):
Do you know?

Speaker 5 (01:31:19):
that's a good one, right, we call it joy.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
All right.
So, joy I'm out here.
Abby came to you, by the way,so you know we went out, we had
it.

Speaker 5 (01:31:28):
You know we had one out.
We had a good time About ourgift.
Took her down there right she.
She really appreciated she getthe steak Inside joke.
Inside joke Huh.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
She got steak.

Speaker 5 (01:31:45):
She did you pay for the state?
Holy shit, it was an outback.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
It was where out back .
No, this is an outback steak,ain't nothing fuck with.
It was good, all right, cuz.

Speaker 5 (01:31:53):
I just went out back the other day.
Okay, but, yeah, but so let'stie this back together with a
skirt steak.

Speaker 4 (01:31:59):
Was it a flat steak?
Oh, no, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
I don't even think outback has skirt.
Take steaks though.

Speaker 5 (01:32:06):
No, so let's tie this back together.
I want the listeners to beclear.

Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:32:10):
Not that I'm cheap.
You're not cheating cheap.
Oh, I thought you yeah, I don'twant to be associated with
being cheap.

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
No, no, you definitely not.
He holds on to his coin.

Speaker 5 (01:32:22):
Sing one cheap as possible, but let's get back.
So, I didn't, so Hold on, Ilost my thought the way I hope
you okay.
Steak so the first episode, thefirst step for the first episode
recorded together.
They were saying can we go to asteakhouse?

(01:32:42):
And I'm like, absolutely not.
And by the way, I heard yourepisode with the $400 that's a
whole nother time but anyway.
So For me, I told I was tellingthem hey, you know we can go
somewhere nice, get something toeat, but it's just not gonna be
the top of my.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
So she's like out back.

Speaker 5 (01:33:04):
Yeah, but out by see what now to be fair, mm-hmm, it
would have been something nicein the outback.
It's just that was last minute.
Okay, all right, so somethingwas better.

Speaker 6 (01:33:13):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
I'm glad you took her doll,because if I was dating you and
it was Valentine's Day and youdidn't take me out and I took
you out for your birthday, I'dhave been mad at you.
But see, you used the datingword, but they go out, no, no
you did go on a date, but yousaid you not dating her but they
do hang out.

Speaker 5 (01:33:31):
We are, we have a very, we have a great friendship
Can.

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
I say that you say whatever you want to say.
I just want to be correct andregurgitate in what you say.

Speaker 4 (01:33:42):
And friends can go on dates.
Go ahead lamp.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
Don't listen to Ryan.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
Yeah, that should sounds confusing as I don't want
to fuse the lesson.

Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
I'm dating my friend.
Actually, I'm on a date with myfriend, but we're not dating.

Speaker 5 (01:33:58):
You got my focus going on self dates and all this
.

Speaker 4 (01:34:01):
So stop, you, don't call Shadry your best friend she
absolutely is all right.

Speaker 1 (01:34:05):
So friends can date.
Well that was I shit.
Johnny Cochran, you right, youare 100% right, I don't even, I
can't even.

Speaker 5 (01:34:20):
But that was my Valentine's Day, like I wanted
to make sure that, because sheshowed me a good time on
numerous occasions.
Yeah, I wanted to make sure shehad a good time.
Can I ask you a question?

Speaker 4 (01:34:31):
and you bought the state.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
Yeah, and he bought the state course and out back
and he's not cheap, they knowand I didn't string that
together, because that's whatI'm implying, if you, know me,
you know I'm not cheap.
No, no, absolutely not.
Hundred percent not, but it'salways nice to poke fun at that,
so it's a layup, so, but thequestion that I have for you,

(01:34:56):
though, is what have you donefor her since Valentine's Day?

Speaker 5 (01:35:01):
We got out, okay, um.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
Any told rubbing going on?
No, I'm trying to get to thefucking meat of this bro, oh
yeah.
I want to get to the good partof the story.

Speaker 5 (01:35:12):
He was like she's nice to me.

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
I was nice to her.
There's no good part okay.

Speaker 5 (01:35:19):
I told you, man, I'm born.

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
No, you're not boring , you're just secretive.

Speaker 5 (01:35:27):
I'm telling you man, this is like.
Did you see me?

Speaker 4 (01:35:32):
You should Netflix and chill with your friend
Person and Netflix and chill andwatch Mia Copas.
Y'all can have a laugh.
There you go.
Oh, it's a comic book.

Speaker 1 (01:35:49):
Oh, okay, did you, you didn't see it yeah we're
about to have a wholeconversation about it in two
seconds.
Um, you should definitely dothat Because you can't get mad
at her, because she didn'tactually tell you to watch it.
We did, so you'd actually haveto text while watching it.
See, this one right here waslike.

(01:36:09):
I saw it already and I don'tknow if I like it.
You should watch it.
I'm like, but I don't want towatch it.
We're gonna watch it together.
I'm like, fuck it there andthen anyway.
I'll save that.
I'll save that, but youdefinitely need to do that.
That's what you need to do.
Put it on the list.
Yeah okay, cool.

Speaker 5 (01:36:30):
So that's it.
Segue Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
Dessert.
I hope you guys enjoyed yourmeal.
Can I get you something off ofour dessert menu?

Speaker 4 (01:36:43):
Take it away, ryan so this is a quick, quick minute
Well movie review.

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
The majority of us in this room has seen the movie
Mia Copa.

Speaker 4 (01:36:52):
For those who aren't familiar with it, this is the
latest Tyler Perry creation andthe plot of the story is we have
Kelly Rowland who plays MiaSpoiler alert Mia Copa.
So she plays Mia and shedecides to be a defense attorney
for Zaire, who's played by theheartthrob of what is my man's
name?
Um Ah, trivante, trivante Rose.

(01:37:14):
So she is he doing better thanme.

Speaker 1 (01:37:17):
I've seen it like I don't know that yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:37:18):
Trivante Rose.
So Mia Copa is, you know,playing the defense attorney for
the Trivante Rose, thischaracter, zaire, and this
person is on trial for murderinghis girlfriend.
So to decide to take the case,and comedy ensues, like I said,
like I get, like the first 30minutes I was, I was on board, I

(01:37:39):
thought it was a pretty solidstoryline.
Uh, I will.
I would love to get takes fromthe room.
I know we could not take thisall day.
I think the part where itstarted falling apart for me was
Like just a magnitude of howhorny you have to be when you
could be facing the deathpenalty and you decide to seduce
your different attorney, likethat's one.
It's like that's.

(01:38:00):
He has a sex addict problem,like and just as the movie keeps
going, he has a there's a sexdungeon in the bottom of this
guy's apartment.

Speaker 2 (01:38:09):
That doesn't get talked about a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:38:12):
And I'm just like, all right, so where the sex
dungeon come from, because he'slike this is where I go to dance
, I'm thinking about it.
Just he actually says likeshe's like where you going?
I said don't show your facepublicly, you're on trial for
murder and you could face thedeath.
Like she's getting all thesewarning and he's like I'm not
going outside, I'm going todance.
And then he goes into a sexclub and it's like swinging
dicks and all this other stuffeverywhere and like even like a

(01:38:35):
guy tried to um shoot a shot atat Mia Copa just off the off the
strength, she came throughfully dressing her three piece
you know power suit and my manballs and all was like hey, you
trying to get it in.
And I was like where is thismovie going?
And I was, you know, and at onepoint, like I mean I want to
like this because, like I figure, okay, this is supposed to be

(01:38:57):
like a legal, you know thriller,like you know.
Like you know, like you knowcourt system, that there was one
point, at least for 30 minutes,we ain't talking shit about
what's going on in court.
Like we don't know like theupdate about any trial date.

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
You got any witnesses ?

Speaker 4 (01:39:10):
and I don't want to hog up all the time, but I think
the sex club being attached tothe apartment or Like a speak
easy into a sex club is crazy tome.
And yeah, I I don't want tospoil too much, just in case
other people got stuff to say.
Should we let?
Let's let the guest go go next.
Well, I'm sorry, you got aquestion first.

Speaker 5 (01:39:32):
Why am I watching this again?
Because you gotta watch it.
So okay, because I'm I'm justsitting here confused.
It's not a comedy, not a comedy.
It's supposed to be a drama,but it's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
Yeah, funny as hell this is a court thriller or
whatever you want to say it'ssupposed to be.

Speaker 4 (01:39:48):
yeah, okay, I'm gonna wait for y'all to say y'all
Overall the pain in the movieright now.

Speaker 5 (01:39:55):
Well, I would love to hear well, I don't sound like
no shit, I won't I'll, I'll letyou hear what I guess got it she
already blew my mind with withthe the Sherlock Holmes approach
, so I want to hear what shethinks about the movie.

Speaker 6 (01:40:05):
Um, I I'm glad I didn't pay for it.
Mm-hmm because I would havebeen mad.
Okay, um, so that was good.

Speaker 4 (01:40:18):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:40:19):
Um, I watched the whole.
Thing.
The end of the movie was weird.
It felt like almost like it wastwo separate movies.
Like, I felt like in thebeginning I was like, oh, this
is not so bad, like Like for atelepathy movie.

Speaker 4 (01:40:34):
Oh, it actually has some substance.
I was like you know, sometimesyou'll be watching, but you're
like this movie ain't about nice, like Seinfeld, I'm just
watching it.

Speaker 6 (01:40:41):
You know, like my brain not really working, so I'm
we were watching I was like, oh, this might actually be
something where I have anemotion.
You know, and then it just I waslike, okay, maybe it's just
Kelly Trying to be like sexy,maybe it's just gonna be one of
those movies, but you know, likeit's just gonna be like one of
those thriller sexy movies.
And then I was like, okay, thisis awkward.
And then and then, and then atthe end I was just like Trash,

(01:41:10):
it was just yeah.
By the end I was like I yeah,buddy, and I felt like they ran
out of money.

Speaker 4 (01:41:17):
How to just wrap it up.

Speaker 6 (01:41:19):
And they were like let's wrap, wrap it up, wrap it
up.
Y'all got about three days tofinish this movie, so we gonna
have to change your end.
They all gonna die.

Speaker 1 (01:41:30):
Okay, so spoiler alert, because I'm about to,
you're gonna watch.
So when they found thegirlfriend and who wasn't dead,
and she was a maid onsomebody's- Punta kind of resort
.

Speaker 4 (01:41:44):
Yeah oh my god, yeah so this is how it went basically
.

Speaker 1 (01:41:49):
And they seemed like oh, so you got to do the.
Oh, you know?
Oh, that's the windex.
Ha, that's the phone.
Right, she out of here.
So that's when I turned theshadow and I was like what the
fuck is happening?
What's happening, what'shappening, because they're in
the beginning.
I'm like yo.
I'm like yo, black love, I loveto see it.

(01:42:12):
That's what I'm talking about.
We've been missing this.
I started going down to Morrischestnut era.
I'm like this is where we needto be.
We missing this, right.
And she's like I'm like yo, whyyou ain't like this, you're
crazy, you're crazy.
And she was just like.
The next part was, uh, the sexscene, but not the ones that you

(01:42:33):
guys talked about, when he wasactually smashing the white
chick.
Right, oh, tag me in, yeah.
And then I'm like Right, right,why?

Speaker 6 (01:42:44):
they even put that in the movie I hold on.

Speaker 1 (01:42:46):
Yeah, but there's a lot of stuff that shouldn't have
been in the movie, right?
So, after that happened we waslike, not we, she already had.
Now I'm like what the fuck isgoing on?
So she finally gave in.
But then I thought thedetective dude was kind of weird
too, and that's my guy Like hewas just weird.
Like my god, you, you love heror you don't love her.

(01:43:08):
You giving the illusion thatyou love it, like what's going
on for real.
Yeah, he is.

Speaker 4 (01:43:16):
It's a very familiar face.
His name escapes me the time,but I thought he was obsessed
with casualism, yeah yeah, sothat happened.

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
They kidnapped the chick, I kidnapped, but they
bring him back, or whatever.
So now the mother's in thekitchen another phone incident.
So then it right.
So then the kitchen, themother's, like you know,
whatever, whatever.
She rolls up behind her andshe's like what she do?
She, I know she's.
Oh, she smacked the phone andthen she kneeled on it like she
fell and I was like I'm fuckingdone.

Speaker 4 (01:43:45):
Yeah, how you break a phone, that easy.

Speaker 1 (01:43:47):
I'm done.
But look, it was like yeah, andthen, and then the brother was
like stabber.
I'm like yo sadu, I can't.
Oh, the kick in the back, thekick in the motherfucking back,

(01:44:09):
oh, Look like leonidas and 300.

Speaker 4 (01:44:13):
Yo, for real.

Speaker 1 (01:44:15):
She bounced off the fucking truck and shit and got
up like she's all like 15 pounds.

Speaker 2 (01:44:20):
Yeah, I'm supposed to recover from that.

Speaker 4 (01:44:22):
Yeah and I'm fine.
Ain't no black woman gonna letthe mother law talks him crazy
like it would?
Like that mother law wastalking to kelly, rolling from
the gate.

Speaker 1 (01:44:31):
From the gate because and I was like yo this shit is
crazy, like why she going forthat?
She must have something more.
Because you know I'm trying toconnect the pieces.
This is like 10 minutes intothe movie.
Yeah, she must got a sex tape.

Speaker 4 (01:44:43):
Something like why are you talking to her?

Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
like I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:44:51):
Because I think I figured it out and just and I
and I and honestly I thoughty'all were my friends.
But now I'm starting toquestion.
Right right because what I'msummarizing is All y'all watch
this dumbass movie.
Y'all lost I don't know 90minutes of your life, yeah no,
no, no was values, values andpeaks.

Speaker 1 (01:45:13):
It was two hours values I lost 120 minutes of
your life.

Speaker 5 (01:45:17):
I didn't right and y'all want me to lose.

Speaker 1 (01:45:21):
Because then you can join the conversation.

Speaker 5 (01:45:24):
No, no, no, yeah y'all.
Every review was fucking badfor this movie, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:45:35):
It's like short.

Speaker 4 (01:45:35):
NATO man.
You just gotta watch it, man.

Speaker 5 (01:45:46):
If you listening to this podcast, I'm not watching
this bullshit.
This will not be no Netflixuntil from me when we pop out in
Dallas.

Speaker 1 (01:45:55):
You can be like yo, that me and cobra.

Speaker 5 (01:45:58):
We're gonna, we're gonna use the first and then
Dallas, and I'll show you, I'llbe in a dog then we're gonna
make you watching on the ridefrom from houston to Dallas.

Speaker 1 (01:46:09):
Yeah, they're gonna put it on.

Speaker 5 (01:46:10):
Somewhere you have to have me some uber money.
Then I had sex, and then I hadsex and some paint and it was
just like all right.

Speaker 1 (01:46:17):
Yeah, that was fucking like you.
First of all, there's a coupleof stop this is.

Speaker 3 (01:46:31):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
no, that's a fact.
Because when you put in the tubI was like, oh, your man going
to extra mile, you know, smashon the painting and wash it up.
And then I was like, butcertain places you just don't
have sex.
One With a whole bunch offucking paint, two on the beach
like come on, stop it.
It's a little harder to paint adifferent meaning in that movie
.
Yeah for sure, 100%.

Speaker 4 (01:46:50):
Oh man, but but yeah, it's one of those bad movies
that's just funny to watch, Isuppose.
Um, so yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:46:58):
Appreciate y'all.
Thanks yeah um.

Speaker 4 (01:47:01):
On another note, real quick uh to you know, on the
same top as upset, um, there isa uh Many series I was getting
into on uh, netflix called supersex.
It is the uh Biopic uh Rocklesof frity.
If you're familiar with withhis work, you know who he is.
Um interesting movie, Uh, itjust pretty much goes through

(01:47:22):
his Past and shows you how hebecame one of the most
successful porn stars you knowin the country.
Um, but something just gonnabreeze over that.
What I really want to get intoand I was one of you know
everyone's opinion.
Has anyone seen dune?
Yeah, you saw doing one and two.
Uh, I've seen Wait the new onejust came out.

(01:47:43):
The new one just came out doingto.
It came out like last week,last Friday, really, yeah, no.
Part two.

Speaker 1 (01:47:49):
I seen doing the original original like the
original, like 700 years ago.
That original Okay, and I seendoing one, doing one was
actually fire.
I liked it Okay.
You know, I thought it was areally good remake.
I didn't know that doing twowas out.
Do you have?

Speaker 4 (01:48:03):
you seen.

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
Yeah, for sure 100%, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:48:06):
Well, I want, I'm glad you say I won't put any
spoilers out there, but I willjust go to my quick rant before
we get out of here.
Oh shit, you know, like, like,once again, action scenes is
fire.
Simulatography is great, um,storyline is good, uh, and it's
you know who's who of A-listactors, as you know, right, my

(01:48:28):
only problem and it is diverse.
But with the diversity piece, Idon't think it pays people of
color in the best light.
I feel like.
I feel like People of coloreither look inferior, weak or or
naive, necessarily.
I'll give a quick example, beingthat, you saw, doing one, right
, mm-hmm.
So, for those who aren'tfamiliar, doing one is just, you

(01:48:52):
know, to try to speed it up orsimplify.
It's like a, a serious, darkerversion of Star Wars.
I just put it like that.
You know, for those who arefamiliar with Star Wars, damn,
but, um, so, so, yeah, so.
So an example of what I meanwhen I say it doesn't pay people
in the best, you know, brownpeople in the best light.
You guys in there, she's fire,she's great and everything she

(01:49:15):
does, um, but the, the plot orthe setting where this, um, the
majority of the movie takesplace.
It's on this planet that isfilled with sand and, because of
that, the majority of thepeople on this planet are black
and brown people.
Right, and you got this young,what 20 something.
You know, 22, 20, barely 21year old white guy.

(01:49:38):
He comes down and he'sliterally the chosen one who's
going to lead these black andbrown people to like better days
.
You know, um, and, and yeah,once again, um an example of how
people are just so weak, orwhatever Black, black and brown
people you remember, at the tailend of doing one Mm-hmm Like,

(01:49:58):
for some reason, there's thisguy.
He's like one of.

Speaker 5 (01:50:04):
They're you about to fuck the whole shit up.

Speaker 4 (01:50:06):
Yeah, but I was what's bored.

Speaker 5 (01:50:08):
No, don't spoil it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:09):
He took us all around the world to talk about savory.
To come back, I'm like now, areyou ready?
Because I'm about to fuck thisoff for you.
Yeah, yeah, so you have to waitto take this for that trick,
I'll wait.

Speaker 4 (01:50:19):
I mean yeah, because then you?

Speaker 1 (01:50:21):
you had wait time out .
Are you even playing in thewatching?
I will, okay.
I will watch you, you gonnawatch me in copa 2?
You need company, all right, sothis is the thing pick your
movie you need.

Speaker 5 (01:50:34):
That's how we're gonna do this.
Watch doing one there.

Speaker 4 (01:50:36):
Watch doing one and get back to me.

Speaker 5 (01:50:39):
No, no, no, okay, no, you don't wish your vote.

Speaker 4 (01:50:44):
So I could spoil it with you next time.
Doing one, doing, doing.
Okay, doing it is so I won't goin much more detail than that.
I just feel like it paintsblack and brown people as
inferior.
Okay, I will say this out ofall the dope ass characters in
dune 1 and 2, whenever youdecide to see it, you can't name

(01:51:05):
me one bad ass Black or browncharacter other than zendaya,
especially a man of color.

Speaker 1 (01:51:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:51:12):
All right, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:51:14):
You got joss brolin kicking ass.

Speaker 4 (01:51:15):
You got austin butler , who plays a dope ass bad guy
in part 2.
You got jason mamo in part 2who's whooping ass?
Yeah, Aquaman is in this movie.
Whooping ass crazy.
But nobody Wait man.

Speaker 5 (01:51:28):
Is he black or brown?
Aquaman?
He brown, I think he's white.

Speaker 1 (01:51:32):
He's white, no.

Speaker 5 (01:51:33):
Yeah, I think he's white.

Speaker 1 (01:51:35):
Yeah, something like that.
They white right now.

Speaker 5 (01:51:37):
No, some others are brown.

Speaker 4 (01:51:38):
Okay, well, okay, I guess you get a pass with jason
mamo, but the bulk of the peoplethat my point is there's not.
No, I know he caught up in somepedophile shit, but yeah, oh but
I guess my point is you can'tsqueeze in like a, like a
jeffree right or a sterling kbrown Can't be somewhere in the
movie, just whooping ass.
You know, now I'm saying I wishhe could have put like a person
of color to To be one of thesebad ass.

(01:52:01):
You know characters in themovie, like most of the black
people, are not black Basically.
Crazy yeah or like the ones whoare.
They're like either servants,they're like servants of some
sort.

Speaker 2 (01:52:13):
Hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:52:14):
So this movie took us back a little bit.
To me, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:52:18):
And you want me to watch it.

Speaker 4 (01:52:20):
That's what I'm saying, at least part one.

Speaker 5 (01:52:22):
I mean, I was just venting my frustration about it,
but you know, okay to be fair,because when I was right
ironically when I was riding uphere my buddy asked me to watch,
I was like.
He was like it's a really goodmovie.
Hmm, I was like uh.

Speaker 4 (01:52:37):
Well, just just just have that little nugget we
talked about today, and then letme know what you think.
I'ma try not to have that, okay, because?

Speaker 5 (01:52:43):
that's what's ruining for me.

Speaker 1 (01:52:45):
Yeah, you should just watch me and copa.

Speaker 4 (01:52:47):
There you go, watch me and copa, just plain black.

Speaker 5 (01:52:54):
Shout out the time of the period, but no, no watching
that man.
Y'all, y'all fucked it up.

Speaker 4 (01:53:01):
So that's all I got.
Thank you for your time.
Appreciate you, ryan.

Speaker 1 (01:53:04):
Yes you the best.
Um, appreciate that's.
That's I mean, and what's socrazy about it is like I'm not
remembering actor's names.
I'm like remember the guy withthe blue suit, that guy and he
did that shit to the other dude,that guy over there, I'm yeah,
names.
I'm just gonna miss me withthat.
Anyway, thank you guys forshowing up.
Um, I want to thank lamp againfor brunch, because lamp took

(01:53:27):
care of that, you know.
I mean, he made sure the teameight and I appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (01:53:31):
Appreciate it lamp.
I appreciate the work y'all do,because that was crazy.
I'm looking.
Let's just tell the audiencey'all the brains of this stuff.
All right, stop playing.
I just talked, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:53:39):
Now you're talking too much.
I want to definitely front ofbottom my heart.
Thank karen for showing up.

Speaker 6 (01:53:49):
Oh, you're welcome.
Thank you for having me.
Nice meeting you too.
You too, I had a ball.
Thanks for having me.
I'm not even joking.

Speaker 4 (01:53:55):
You blew my mind with the, the credit score thing.
He's still back with that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:59):
Yeah, nah, she did because, I thought I was doing
something.
I thought I was doing something.
You know, I had a wholehighlighter on here.

Speaker 4 (01:54:05):
I'm like I'm just gonna highlight these bits and
she was like oh no, nigga, youdidn't go far enough, karen
heard two minutes of theconversation was like nah,
here's what's happening.
I was like damn.

Speaker 1 (01:54:13):
But To to let you know how much of a real one she
is.
I hit her and I'm like yo, thisis what we're doing, this is
what I like to do, and I likeyou to be a part of it.
She was like tell me when andwhen.
There was no back and forth,there was no.
Just tell me when and where youknow.
I mean, and to be honest withyou, I spotted me like the third
time and this one actually camein fruition, because we're

(01:54:34):
supposed to do something overthe summer too.
Um, so I'm, I'm, I'm indebtedand I'm Definitely appreciate
you for showing up anytime youknow that was dope, for sure,
all right, so from I guessthat's uh, from right to left,
you know, just tell them whereyou could, where people could
find you.

Speaker 6 (01:54:53):
Uh caronel on instagram, mostly uh facebook.
I am caronel.

Speaker 4 (01:55:00):
Oh uh, ryan reviews everything on youtube, or you
can follow me on instagram.

Speaker 5 (01:55:04):
Uh, taylor underscore photos dnsy uh, instagram for
me conversations underscore withunderscore.
Lamp facebook conversations ofthe lamp podcast is on
soundcloud at apple podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:55:19):
And shadra at hiding hills on instagram and flights.
Fashion and food.

Speaker 1 (01:55:26):
You can find me right here.
This is where I'm gonna be.
I appreciate y'all.
It's that time again, and sincewe really don't know how to say
goodbye, I'm not gonna saygoodbye, but listen what I will
ask.
I'm not even asking if youliked it.
Please don't forget to like,comment, subscribe and shit.
Um, and that's homework Also.

(01:55:48):
There is no.
Also, we'll catch you next week.
We'll save a seat at the tablefor you.

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