Unpopular Opinions on Classics, Relationship Dynamics, and Spirited Debates w/ The Cognac Room Podcast

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Styles (00:01):
yo, what's so ill about this is that record is red.
Anyway, I digress, you are nowrocking with the brunch hour
podcast, the best hour of theday it's the only podcast I
listen to with your host styles.
I like my red bone, flat cello,light skin, yellow, all right,

(00:28):
so listen, I'm bad atintroductions.
This is part two of this wholesituation.
Well, nah, forget about that.
It took us about three hours toset up.
Neither here nor there.
I'm going to explain to youwhere we are and what we're
doing.
We're in Charlotte, northCarolina, for those that don't
know, and I'm explaining to youwhere we are and what we're
doing.
We're in Charlotte, northCarolina, for those that don't
know, and I'm here with Ryan.

(00:51):
What's up?
What's up?
Right Shout outs to Lamp,southwest and Dirty Free Lamp.
I wish we had some free Lampt-shirts.
Yeah, we need free Lampt-shirts.

Ryan (01:01):
Free Lamp t-shirts.

Styles (01:03):
And I am here with friends to the show, literally
Friends to the show.
Anybody you've seen on thisshow, they're definitely friends
, no random people.
But anyway, locked door eventsonly Pause.
Introduce yourself, please.

Petra (01:18):
Hey everybody, I'm Petra from the Cognac Room Podcast.

Jay (01:21):
I'm Jay Christian from the Cognac Room Podcast.

Styles (01:24):
AKA.
Jesus Christ, jay Boogie.
Aka.
I need my cloud lift up and I'mgoing to be honest, and the bus
driver.

Petra (01:34):
Don't forget the bus driver.

Styles (01:35):
Yes, and he still sound bad to everybody, I'm going to
have to turn this little micdown.

Ryan (01:40):
They both got those late night radio voices.

Petra (01:47):
That's funny, they both got those late night radio
voices.

Ryan (01:48):
We do midnight love.
This song is dedicated to it.

Petra (01:53):
You got a special somebody out there.

Styles (01:54):
All right, so let's get to the shit, because it's been
three hours with the setup.
That was no bullshit.
Real shit, real shit, real shit.
Hey yo, black Thunder.
We need two shots.

Jay (02:00):
It's a combo.
I used to be in love with thisbitch named me and Jade.
Don't fuck with her no more.
Now I fuck with Tango Ray.
Tango Ray, hey yo, BlackThunder, we need two shots.

Styles (02:10):
It's a combo, all right, so listen.
So, keeping it consistent,because again I'm jaded.
I did hear a fellow podcastertalk about our name is the
Brunch Owl, but we don't talkabout brunch and I'm still salty
.
I'm still salty, like whateverI digress.
Um, so we're gonna start offwith brunch, as we have in the

(02:33):
last four or five episodes.
But, um, yeah, so we're gonnastart off with brunch.
Um, this morning we woke up,thankfully yeah, thank you, woke
up another broken egg anotherbroken egg, yeah, yeah, I'm
gonna let Ryan take it away.

Ryan (02:50):
I enjoyed it.
I'll be honest.
I kind of had a cheat code.
I got family here in Charlotte,so shout out to Brandon.
You know one of my cousins andwe're just kicking it so far.
I told him about the show andwhat we do and stuff like that
and he was like you know what?
I need to check out anotherBroken Egg.
Therefore, we did.
I know we got a whole systemgoing on so I don't want to jump

(03:13):
ahead.

Styles (03:13):
I know what I mean.
We can do it.
What I think we should dobasically is just, you know, on
a scale of one to five, you know, outside of everything else, so
it does include, you know, theinterior and all of that Service
food.
You know, blah, blah, blah.
Let me stop because I'm aboutto do something else.

(03:35):
It's not appropriate.
It's not appropriate.
Anyway, jay joined us on ourout a little brunch thing too.
Shout-outs to Donnie, becauseDonnie was like yo, you guys
should invite all of the gueststo brunch.
And I'm like all of the guestsmight not want to go to brunch.
And then I was like we askedJay.
Jay jumped at it.
So shout-outs to Donnie becauseyou know she's outside touching

(03:57):
the people she knows betterthan we do, because I'm like I
wouldn't, y'all motherfuckerswouldn't never show up.
I've been like, yeah, y'all workit out.
Yeah, I'm going to hit you withquestions like what's your
favorite brunch for me, yeah,that's it.
That's all you're getting fromme.
Um, we're going to start withthe guests.

(04:18):
What do?

Jay (04:18):
you have?
What shrimp?
What is it?
Shrimp and grits.

Styles (04:22):
You don't know, I'm turning this motherfucker the
fuck out of here.

Jay (04:26):
I had the shrimp and grits.

Multiple PPL (04:30):
Show up like Show up, flapping his back and he
can't pet it.

Styles (04:33):
He's like God.
Is that you?
Is that you God?
This motherfucker?
I'm sorry.

Jay (04:40):
Nah, but it was good.
The shrimp and grits was good.
I had a Bloody Mary to wash itdown.
It was very good and I won't.

Styles (04:47):
I do want to say that I had to put some salt and pepper
on it, on what?

Jay (04:51):
on my uh Bloody Mary, no on my shrimp.
And grits.

Ryan (04:54):
That's wild salt and pepper on a Bloody Mary.

Styles (04:56):
I'm just saying there was a whole like celery sticking
that would yeah, with bacon,celery carrot.

Jay (05:03):
It was a lot of stuff in there.

Styles (05:04):
Yeah, it was like a V8 without alcohol.

Petra (05:07):
Yeah, that's what I said.

Styles (05:07):
I was like who wants a?

Petra (05:08):
V8 without alcohol.

Jay (05:09):
I do not want that, bloody Mary might have been better than
the meal, but hey, oh shit,damn, all right, that was wild,
nah, I'm just saying that waswild.

Styles (05:19):
We walked out, we went and knowing the difference, he
definitely scraped the plate.

Jay (05:23):
The food was good.
One to five.
One to five.
I'm going to have to give it afour because I had to add my own
seasonings to it.
Copy that, yeah, fair.

Styles (05:32):
Copy that, copy that.
Yeah, and getting back to theBloody Mary, I don't know about
y'all, but I've never seen ablack man drink a Bloody Mary.
I'm just saying.

Petra (05:40):
I haven't either.
He's the only black man.
I know that drinks a BloodyMary.

Jay (05:44):
So I got it from now, Like when I was, you know, first
getting making my bones in thisdrinking thing.
Pause, Because I know Styleswas waiting on me.

Styles (05:53):
Amen to that.
If you know, you know.

Jay (05:57):
But yeah, the first guy that I, you know, the first
black guy that I saw drinkBloody Mary, he was, you know.
I asked him.
I said, man, what is that?
And he told me and I was likeit's tomato juice.
He was like, yeah, but it's notbad, it's pretty good or
whatever.
So I tried Bloody Mary and Iliked it.
So I've been drinking them eversince.
So I actually got that from ablack guy man.

Ryan (06:20):
Oh, all right, right, that's interesting.
Yeah, I had the.
What I had, oh, I had thecinnamon roll french toast folks
.
So I broke my streak, got outof the chicken and waffles for
once.

Styles (06:33):
I almost ordered it, but instead Shadra ordered the
chicken and waffles to hold usdown out of betrayal, so we
didn't.
Yeah, the group didn't breakthe streak.
You broke your personal streak,I broke my personal street, but
we're still ordering fuckingchicken and waffles.
It's still making its way toour table, yeah.

Ryan (06:49):
Somehow.

Styles (06:49):
Somehow someway, yeah, and then I fucked up and let
Ryan order first, so he got thecinnamon crunch French toast and
I was like, yeah, that looksgood because I'm not a
strawberry guy, but they had thestrawberry pound cake,
something or other.
Somebody's catching a toothachesomewhere right now.
But they had the strawberrypound cake, French toast.

(07:09):
I was like that shit soundsgood, looks good, but I don't
like strawberries, yeah you know.
So I went with the cinnamontoast crunch.

Petra (07:20):
Cinnamon roll French toast.

Yeah.

Ryan (07:22):
I didn't go for it.
I mean one to five.
I mean I give it like, I giveit like a four.
I mean, granted, you know, Iguess it's common sense, but it
is legit, like eating a cinnamonroll for breakfast.
So that may not be somethingI'ma go to every time, but yeah,
they got me on a drink, though,cause I had like the apple pie.

Styles (07:41):
Uh, mimosa, mimosa, uh-huh.
My guy, that was fucking, uh,moscato yo, I'm dead ass, you
think I'm playing.
I'm not playing, I'm that shitbro, it didn't taste like that.

Ryan (07:54):
It tastes like peach moscato but in the waiter's
effect I forgot his name.
He was such a great uh waiter.
Yeah, in his defense, when youask him what do you suggest, he
said I don't drink.
But what's been selling off thecharts here is such and such,
and some lemon blueberry drinkthat Chandra ended up getting
Right, and some other drink.

(08:15):
He never said yo, man, I thinkthat apple pie, mimosa, up your
alley Nah.

Styles (08:20):
he definitely did.
Matter of fact, nah hedefinitely did.

Ryan (08:22):
Matter of fact, styles Matter.
He perfectly said you know what?
I'm ignorant, I'm stubborn.
I'm going to go get the applepie anyway.

You know, when I edit this bitch I'm going to be
like snitch this dude's a snitch.

Styles (08:32):
Matter of fact I might just do the voiceover.
No, I'm going to have Peachycome in and do the voiceover.

Ryan (08:40):
You got to get the voice, the bus sound effect, yeah, and
then we're going to have to dothe unsolved mystery voice and
shit.

Styles (08:44):
I mean, like this motherfucker he did, and I did
go against the system.
I was like I'm not fucking withthat, let me get.
I had to be different.
You know, I had to be differentand I paid for it, literally,
yeah.
And for the price?
The price was actually decentbecause, you know, I paid for me
and my wife and it was like 53bucks.
You know, I paid for me and mywife and it was like 53 bucks,

(09:06):
you know, and that was for, youknow, a full plate of food and
drinks.
Two, actually two drinks, yeah.

Petra (09:11):
I didn't have the pleasure of going with y'all,
but I've been there severaltimes and I love it.

Styles (09:15):
All right, we just need you to promise that you're going
next time I will.

Petra (09:20):
Trust me, I wanted to, but it might not have been
pretty, so I wasn't gonnasubject y'all to that.

Styles (09:23):
You know what it was so crazy is that I can't see you
because jesus christ is sittingin the middle.
Thank you, thank you so let me,let's talk about.
Let's talk.
Let's talk about this.
So I've been friends online,friends balls with jay christian

(09:43):
for about, I want to say, asolid five years.
It's been about five years, no.
Somewhere in there In my lineFour to five.
It's about five, about five.
Cool, we all doing funny math.
So, and J Christian's a Leolike myself.
So when I showed up, you know,and ryan just rolled up, it was

(10:06):
good, look down.
Your man got the the barneyrubble slides with the gucci
logo on it, right, and then westarted making our way up.
Pause, I was not eyeing thisman like that, I promise you.
Then you got the big body watchon.
I'm like, oh okay, so weak.
Then he got the Gucci shades on, talking about yeah, I got the.
Where'd you get the shirt from?
He got the shirt from Target.

(10:28):
This motherfucker.
He was like give me the $400shades and give me that shirt
from Target.

Petra (10:36):
You got to make it make sense somewhere.
I ain't mad at you.

Styles (10:39):
Those are the ones that.

Petra (10:40):
I was going to get too I actually did you get the shirt?

Styles (10:43):
over there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%,100%.
But yeah, dapper Dude, you know, pause, I wasn't eyeing him
like that, I promise you and allof that.
You know what I've been, whatwe've been blessed in, is
bumping into people, invitingthe people on the show, like our
online friends and them beingthe people that they are online

(11:05):
in real life.

Ryan (11:06):
They come through, so how?
They carry themselves online ishow they are in real life Once
again.

Styles (11:13):
I know you said shout out to Donnie, shout out to
Donnie.
It's funny because every showafter Donnie is like shout out
to Donnie for something.

Ryan (11:18):
It was dope Stand-up person.
This is my first time meetingJay in person as well.
I haven't followed him as longas you have online, but you know
I always, you know, thought hisconcerts pretty dope, uh same
with uh petra, and it's beencool to meet him in person
that's a big fact.

Styles (11:34):
Yeah, that's a.
That's a big fact.
Um, all right, so I'm gonnagive it.
I'm gonna give because I didn'tget my score.
I'm gonna give it a four, right, so I Right.
So I think, you know, I thinkha-ha, that's funny Because it's
four, four, four.
So, basically, see what I didthere, see what I did there Jay
Z pun, of course.
New York, it's going to happen.

(11:55):
Brooklyn, brooklyn, all right.
Main course, it's time to eat.
What's on your mind?
It's time to eat what's on yourmind, all right, so it might
seem like I'm moving it pastthis, but I think that the main
course is actually going to beone of the longer segments that
we've had, because we got acouple of things to cover.
Fair, all right, we got acouple of things to cover.

(12:16):
One of the things is this Firstof all, let's talk about how we
even come up with these topics.
So we have, fuck y'all.
We're not doing that becausethere's other podcasts that
might be like yo, how'd you-?

Petra (12:26):
I was going to explain, but I'm not.

Styles (12:28):
Yeah, basically I'm not about that.
I wish somebody would jump inmy DMs and say oh Styles, check
it out.
I listen to X, y and Z, and Ithink that you should do enough.
But that's fine, that's fine.
That's fine because I'm outsideum anyway, all right.

(12:48):
So here's, here's a good one,all right.
So don't think about it interms of a relationship that
you're either currently in orpast.
Okay right, so you can prettymuch go either way.
I grew up I want to I want to.

Ryan (13:09):
I grew up what you said, it was a split second.

Styles (13:11):
I was like matter of fact, we probably got the
audience trained.
They probably like yeah, thankyou.
Thank you, so if you said pausetwo seconds ago, I appreciate
you anyway.
Um, how did you learn to be ahusband and wife?
That's the question I'm goingto just toss it up.

Ryan (13:31):
I'll jump in first.
Of course, normally we'll haveladies go first, but maybe you
want to hear answers first andthink about your answers and so
forth.
I really feel like I learned tobe a better husband, basically
just by really buying into theidea of putting your partner
first.
You know, you know I couldlaugh at it now, but of course

(13:53):
it wasn't funny back then.
But, like I remember one smallexample.
I remember I'm coming straighthome from work, I'm hungry, we
don't got no groceries in thecrib and instead of going
grocery shopping, I go to FiveGuys.
It's expensive as hell, but oneof my favorite places to go.
I called my wife once.
I didn't get an answer.
So of course, instead ofordering something for my wife,

(14:18):
I come home with just thegreasy-ass bag, the big-ass
burger fries, all for me, andthen she's like you know, you
got, you know, two people livinghere and I'm like I called but
nobody answered and of coursethat was a whole big blow up.
But you know, that's thesmallest I can laugh at now.
But my whole point is like youfully, once you fully buy into

(14:40):
thinking about your partnerfirst, I think it really helps.
So so of course, I never madethat mistake again and it's like
it's almost like you know,automatically it's like I, the
moment I leave work hey, I'mleaving work, you need something
?
And that's just.
With anything we could be inthe house and I'm.
You know, we have some likedowntime where we just wanted to

(15:01):
.
Maybe I want to veg out on theps5, maybe she wants to veg out
on one of her shows.
Before I go downstairs now,I'll go in the room.
Hey, I'm going to go downstairs.
Fix me a sandwich or something.
Do you need anything?
And that's just a small example.
Oh, she fucked you up.

Styles (15:15):
Yeah, that day that you came home without that fool.

Jay (15:18):
You got Joe Asby.

Petra (15:20):
I'm like yo, I'm about to go to the bathroom, you want to
go first?
That was a turning point iny'all relationship.

Styles (15:25):
Yo, for real.
He said, the day I learned howto be selfless.
Yeah, instead of selfish.

Ryan (15:31):
Yeah.
But even like on a more serious, on a bigger kind of things,
like if I go out with a fella orsomething like that, like even
when she's not around, it's likeI definitely don't want to
disrespect my marriage, I don'twant to disrespect her whether
she's here in front of me or not.
So if I go out with the fellasI'm not fucking around trying to
flirt to see if I still got it.

(15:52):
None of that shit.
Like I went out with my cousinlast night.
You know he's not married buthe's in a very committed
relationship as well.
It's just two cousins catchingup.

Styles (16:00):
Ain't none of this.
Hey, man man, you know youcan't include the cousins well,
I mean, it's an honest story.

Ryan (16:06):
Nah, I understand, but you can't include the cousins fair,
fair, but my whole point is,whether you're in the presence
of your partner or not, alwaysthink about them first and just,
just, in every sense of theword, that's my answer okay, nah
, man nah I got that.

Styles (16:20):
Anybody want to add to that?
Aw shit.

Jay (16:23):
Anybody want to answer that ?
Oh shit, what was the question?
Oh shit.

Styles (16:27):
That was crazy.

Jay (16:29):
Can you repeat the question I?

Styles (16:30):
got you.
No, no, no, it's cool.
What'd you get from what hesaid?

Jay (16:34):
Yeah, I agree, no, go ahead .

Styles (16:39):
You're about to do a thing.

Jay (16:41):
No, I agree with what he said.
It makes complete and totalsense.

Ryan (16:46):
I totally agree because I learned how to be.
Oh, of course.

Jay (16:50):
Yeah of course, but I learned how to be a good partner
, husband, whatever, by throughtrial and error, by fucking up,
you know having to be corrected.
I guess you would say and youknow, I think that it's
important that we as men can betransparent in that and share

(17:11):
that, because you know it's easyto say well, yeah, I had a good
example.
I didn't have a good example,my daddy wasn't around.
You know what I'm saying, so Ihad to learn through trial and
error.
I had to fuck up a lot, butthen you know once, then, once I
started getting and I'm stilllearning, I'm still improving, I
still have room for improvement, alright, I dig it, Especially

(17:33):
the part with your dad not beingaround, because I had the same
situation.

Styles (17:38):
There were other male figures in my life, but I can't
say that that was the blueprintto life in terms of learning how
to be a better man to yourpartner.
You know, because my housewasn't broken.
I didn't have a broken home,you know, I just had a lot of
individuals that played a partin, you know, me seeing what a

(18:01):
healthy relationship was.
You know, and I almost want tosay to their credit, but yeah,
to their credit, I knew, I knewwhat was bad, you know what I
mean.
Nice little change.
You lean back.
I was like whoa, whoa, whoa.

Jay (18:17):
Cause I was like okay, Yup yup, yup.

Petra (18:19):
Where it's all, where it's all, man.

Styles (18:22):
He put the brakes on, gave me the side eye like I'm
coming back, nigga you see thisright, Don't catch me.

Ryan (18:30):
Please don't catch me.

Styles (18:35):
He's like I had every intention of leaving back nigga,
Move it or lose it.
Yeah, I didn't have any.
I didn't have that.
You know I'm not going to takeyou guys down memory lane with
regards to my upbringing becauseit's on previous shows.
Go run the numbers up.

(18:56):
But yeah, I didn't have.
I didn't have that either whenI I became oh, I'm a husband, oh
, I'm a husband.
Now I'm a husband.
So a lot of selfless acts Ilearned I don't even want to say
I learned that I brought thosewith me when I came into the
relationship Because outside ofthat, I didn't want to become a

(19:20):
husband until I was able tobring those tools to the
relationship.
You know, those habits, thosebehaviors to the relationship.
I was a very selfish dude aswell, you know, but not
maliciously.
I didn't have.
I wasn't malicious with myselfishness, right, right right
you know self-preservation mefirst, you second, I think

(19:41):
that's most men.

Petra (19:41):
when they come into situations they're so used to
doing for themselves and beingby themselves it's hard for them
to remember hey, you have aperson now that thinks about you
when they go outside, and soyou need to do the same thing.

Styles (19:53):
Well, I'm glad you said that I was a little different.
I was actually looking for thatperson that I can actually pour
into, like that, because in mycase and I'm not going gonna
speak for all the fellas, right,because everybody's hard out
there, um, I'm not gonna speakfor all the fellas, but in my
case I wanted, I was looking forsomebody that I can be

(20:13):
vulnerable with.
Yeah, and the reason why I waslooking for that person that I
could be vulnerable with isbecause life is fucking hard it
is you understand I'm saying andonce you realize that you're
carrying around the weight ofeverything, you're like nah, I
need to sit down.
You understand what I'm sayingand I need somebody to rub my

(20:34):
back without me asking can yourub my back?
You know, I need somebody tounderstand what's wrong before
me actually having to fill out aquestionnaire as to what's
wrong, right, right.
So I was actively looking forthat.
Now, in the process of lookingfor that, of course, I was hurt
a lot and I've hurt a lot, likewhat I did there Smooth

(20:57):
transition.
Like that.
Okay, boss, boss, see, I don'thave to, um, I'm not even
looking for it because I'll fuckup the show.
But, um, yeah, I don't have to,I'm not even looking for it,
I'll fuck up the show.
But yeah, I learned that, Ithink with my son's mom.
I learned how because it waseverything that I didn't want,
if that makes sense that turnedinto my, my wants.

(21:20):
Those are my wants.
You want to know what I want.
Let me tell you what I don'twant and just apply the opposite
to that, yeah, right, right.

Ryan (21:26):
And just to add what you're saying in terms of, like
you know, being vulnerable, Ithink, once again, I can't speak
for every man, but just from myperspective, I do feel like
it's a big step when a man canbe vulnerable to their, you know
, girlfriend, wife, whatever thecase.
Whatever the case, because it'slike for me personally, I feel
like for whatever.
If you're vulnerable aboutwhatever your insecurities are

(21:48):
or your shortcomings are, themoment y'all have that big blow
up fight, I think one of mypersonal fears would be you know
, it's thrown back in my facenow Like I share something in
confidence with you.
Yeah, we get into a big spatfor whatever reason.
And next thing, you know, it'slike I don't know that's why,
know that's why, that's whythat's why you're a girl without
a dad or whatever the case is.
It's like shit.

(22:08):
You know, I told you that inconfidence, I told you how to
fuck me up and here you go,saying this time to third.

Styles (22:14):
I got a question like ladies, do you understand that
you can literally fuck a dude up, emotionally Demolish?
Them yeah you can really killeverything about that dude.
Fuck, yeah, fuck yeah,especially if that person comes
to you and they're like listen,that person, that's vulnerable.

(22:37):
So you have to be very carefulwith who you're vulnerable with.
Yeah, right, and it's not easyto tell who you can be
vulnerable with versus who youcan't be.

Ryan (22:47):
And that's a scary thing.
It's trial and error with that.

Styles (22:50):
Super bro, it's like insane, because if I pour
everything into you, justspeaking to your point, you just
like flip it on me like allright, nigga, Fuck, nigga.
Like you wasn't, you ain't havea dad Right.

You know what I'm saying.
Like you ain't have a dad,Right?

Styles (23:05):
Right, your uncle's uncle taught you how to ride a
bike.

Right, your uncle's uncle, get the fuck out
of here with that shit.

Styles (23:12):
Right, you ain't got a job.
You ain't got a job, it'severything that you don't have.
But what's so crazy about thatwhole argument?
Because I'm not looking at anincredibly successful person on
the other side of thisconversation and they forget
that that hurts, right but thathurts when you give it back to
them oh yeah, but the thing is,though, you don't even have to,
because it's an argument thatyou can't win because that

(23:33):
person is convicted.
So, whatever you, whatever,however, however, it is that
they feel about you in thatmoment is coming out, yeah if
they're throwing jabs at you andthings that you've told them in
confidence.

Petra (23:45):
they don't really have any other tools in their
argument sheet.
They don't have anythingintellectual or substantial to
really hold up against theargument, so they have to go
below the belt.
And when you're with somebodythat you love, you're not
supposed to go below the belt,even if you want to think that
shit in your head and say what'snecessary.
Whatever y'all discussing orarguing about, talk about that.

(24:08):
Don't bring out no blow blows.
I don't believe in that.
I don't believe in that BecauseI myself learned how to be a
wife from looking at what peopledid and I didn't want to do
that.
I knew that I ain't like that.
And then I had an older brotherwho, my mom, was very heavy in
their relationship.
So once I got married I knewdon't come over here.

(24:31):
Don't come over here with thatBS.
You don't need to knoweverything that's going on in
our house.
You don't need to know everymove that's being made.
None of it.
Don't come over here with that.
He can pay for everything, butwhy should he?
If I can pay for it too, whyshould he?
Why y'all got a joint account?
Why don't y'all have a jointaccount.
You'll be acting up.

(24:53):
I want my husband to like me atall times.
You know, so I didn't want to gothrough some of the trials and
tribulations I saw people gothrough that were around me.

Right.

Petra (25:07):
So I learned how to navigate through that.
I went in with the mindset thatI'm going to be different from
that.
I'm going to do thingsdifferent and I have a joke
about on our podcast.
I grew up in New Jersey in anapartment building and I used to
see people get their asswhooped every Friday like
clockwork and I was like, why doyou be at the house?
Leave like he get home at 507and you gonna be there waiting

(25:31):
and you know you're gonna getyour ass whooped at 8 10.
I'm not gonna be home, I'mgonna figure out another way.
So I knew going in there werecertain things I wouldn't.
I wasn't gonna be in nofighting relationship, right.
I wasn't gonna be arguing andup and down the street and all
that kind of stuff.
Like I just certain things.
I came in, we spoke about itand it just didn't happen
because we were both committedto not having those types of

(25:53):
relationships.
Yeah, yeah.

Ryan (25:55):
And that's key too, what you're talking about, Like I
know.
You know, of course, for thosewho may not be aware by now,
social media is really justposting your highlights, right,
you know, like you know.
But also, especially if you'reon Facebook or whatever app
you're using, the moment youpost whatever bullshit your
partner's going through orsomething like that, that's when

(26:17):
your comments and your DMs maybe blowing up, because it's just
people like drama.

You know what?

Ryan (26:22):
I'm saying Like you could be like.
You know, my my, really uh, oneof my best friends, he was
joking with me.
One day he does like thistravel podcast thing you know,
go through the same traveltribulation that most content
creators go to.
He'll post his trip to uh dubaior something, maybe get like
five, six comments, a few likes.
But he was like, but ryan, letme post.

(26:45):
Uh, hey, I found my girl.
I found out my wife cheated onme.
All of a sudden she'd be likelike, oh shit, what happened?

Jay (26:51):
Shit is viral Right.

Petra (26:52):
Exactly.

So it's just people like drama.

Ryan (26:55):
So to your point, like you brought up, that's why you
don't need to have everybody inyour business.
Yeah, some things just need tobe left to just handle behind
closed doors.

Styles (27:04):
Yeah, it's funny, because people don't want
sanitary.
You understand what I'm saying.
They want that shit as dirty aspossible.
Fuck it, which is crazy.

Jay (27:13):
So I did want to share this .
I want to share this real quick, a quick story.
I remember this is what I thinkhelped me to kind of embrace
the role of being the head,being the leader, being the man.
So, growing up with not havinga good example of what I did,
actually I did have a goodexample, let me not lie.

(27:34):
My grandfather was a greatexample okay, did everything
Could build a bike, a house,cook, hunt, whatever, right but
and I saw that firsthand but inmy immediate home like there
wasn't like father or son.
Fast forward to my firstmarriage, right, I remember

(27:56):
distinctly there was an issue wehad like a brick fence around
our home with like light posts,like on the gate entryway.
So one night, for some reason,this shit just breaks into a
fire, shit.
And you know I'm standing thereand so I didn't know what to do
.
You know I'm saying I went toprison at a very young age and

(28:20):
so here I am, I'm home now, I'mmarried, but I still, I'm still
trying to figure this thing out,right?
So I I turned to my then wifeand I say the the the thing is
on fire.
What am I supposed to do?
What are we gonna do like what?
What are we gonna do?
Yeah, and she looked at me.
She said I don't know you, theman.

Styles (28:42):
wow, I felt that big bro , felt that big paul, but I need
to stop, but it was in thatmoment I need to stop because I
was caught up in the moment andI'm like, yeah, I see, I see how
some people are like that'schildish, I'm gonna still do it.

Jay (28:59):
I'm gonna still do it because I feel like they need
clarity but go ahead and finishwhat you were saying, but no, so
it was in that very moment thatI kind of was like damn and
like she wasn't like trying tobe mean or disrespectful.
It was a matter of factlystatement Right yeah, and it was
just kind of like damn, I amthe man of this house.

It was a low blow.
It hurt me like god damn.

Jay (29:22):
So then I was like okay, you know what I got to be more,
you know what I'm saying.
Like take charge of things.
Like, even if I don't know whatto do, I'm supposed to find out
what to do.

Styles (29:33):
But see, that's where you're wrong.
But hold on though.
I disagree with that a littlebit.
Okay, because the thing is thisright, I had to actually
partner with somebody who knewhow to be a partner.
Okay, not a partner in arelationship, just a partner.

Jay (29:48):
Okay, not a partner in a relationship Mm-hmm, just a
partner in general, just apartner in anything you
understand what I'm saying,because we're going to divvy up
the responsibilities.

There's no gender role when you're divvying up
responsibilities in business,right?
I do agree with that.

Styles (29:58):
yes, so we're doing that , right, it's the same thing
with regards to.
It's the same thing regards toa relationship, right, you know?
Because if we have a kid, ifyou're not around, I'm expected
to change this kid's pampers.
Absolutely, it's not a woman'sjob, you know what I'm saying.
It's not Now my wife will nevertake out garbage as long as I'm
around.
You know shit like that, but asit relates to business like how

(30:22):
the fuck are we supposed to getahead?
Because, remember, thehousehold is a business.

People don't view it as such which is why a lot of
them yeah a lot of people fail.

Styles (30:29):
Yeah, it's a business, right.
So if I'm like, all right, cool, he going to be the breadwinner
this is not the 1950s, youcould do that then.
Right, and this is why we're sofucked up as far as like just
regular economics today.
Right, because inflationoutpaces salary, which makes no
fucking sense.
But then we sit here and we'relike you know what?

(30:50):
That shit doesn't make anysense, but we run our houses the
same way, the same way, samebusiness model, and everything
Go ahead.
Jay, what you was about to say.

Jay (30:58):
I feel what you're saying.
You're basically saying thatwhoever has the strength in that
particular area should handlethat particular thing I agree.
I agree with that.
I do too.
So the problem with me wasn'tthe fact that I didn't know what
to do as much as it was thefact that I panicked.

Ryan (31:16):
Okay, yeah, I was about to say that's a big difference.

Jay (31:18):
You know what I mean.

Ryan (31:19):
Like, for example, to your point, jay like it's like you
know, it has to happen.
Knock on If me and my wife arein the house and I hear I don't
know, like maybe something fellin the kitchen or something like
that.
Yeah, I'm, you know, I'm notgoing to be like, hey, tanisha,
go check that out.
Exactly, it's going to be on me.

Jay (31:39):
You got to be the one to do it.

Ryan (31:41):
It might be some scary shit, but you're not going to
panic.

Jay (31:43):
I'm going downstairs and see what happens, and that was
the thing.
So, more so than just the factthat, you know, I didn't know
what to do Hell, she didn't knowwhat to do either, but it was a
panic.
I panicked, I didn't, I didn'tapproach this situation from a
place of all right, let's go.

Let's figure it out.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Jay (32:01):
Let's get the fire extinguisher.
Put this out, call somebody,find out what you know what I
mean, right?

Ryan (32:06):
so that's a big difference between the panic and the
general thing.

Jay (32:09):
Yeah, exactly so so it was you know, and so I do agree with
what you said.
It it it's not necessarily athing that just because I'm, but
as the man I've, I have themindset that, okay, I gotta
figure this shit out now.
If she's more equipped tohandle that situation and she
speaks up and and cool and allright, that's a good idea, let's
do it.
But no longer, no more, will Ipanic and allow myself to kind

(32:30):
of like not, instead ofsearching for a solution, just
be kind of like like a deerstuck in the head like that's
all.

Ryan (32:37):
I've been faced with that same situation before too, and
it was talked about.
Hey, you know, if you panic meas your wife, I'm gonna be like
okay holy shit.

It's more of that type of role, yeah, yeah no, you
know, I'm coming to you.

Styles (32:55):
It's just that jesus christ is blocking us right now.
You know what I?

Petra (32:59):
mean.
No, I actually agree with allof you fellas like and that's
part of you know the issue,because I'm I'm not always a
girl's girl and I agree with youguys.
I feel like it should bepartnership.
Nobody has no one role in thehousehold.
Everybody takes a part and doessomething, and we had a lot of
kids.

(33:20):
We had to do everything.
You had to be masterful ateverything.
So I just think if you want tobe with somebody and you want it
to work, you have to be able tonot be selfish, because you
definitely should have boughtthat bag.
I can't let it go.
I cannot believe you came inthat house without that and one
phone.

Ryan (33:39):
Call One phone call, One phone call and it was my
favorite burger.
Just the plain baconcheeseburger.
None of that sauce.
Just give me the plain baconcheeseburger.

Petra (33:46):
Is that kind of?
Does she eat that too Well, andcheeseburger?
None of that sauce.

Ryan (33:49):
Does she eat that too?
Well, she's trying to be alittle healthier, so she gets
the lettuce wrap.

Petra (33:53):
That's what made it worse .
I know what she likes.
That's what made it worse.
That's what made it worse.
You get it, even if you don'tthink she's going to eat it.
Why set yourself up for failure?

Styles (34:02):
I feel like it happened yesterday because his memory is
too clear.
On it, he's on it.
He's like it will never happenagain.

You won't catch me slipping again.

Jay (34:09):
And.

Petra (34:10):
I applaud him for that.
I applaud him for that.

Jay (34:13):
Go ahead no.

Styles (34:13):
No no no, you see how he slid up on the mic, boss,
because he knows he's like you.
Ain't got the sound Flip it, onit Whatever.
On.
It all right, no, but.

Petra (34:26):
I'm the type of person when it comes to stuff like that
, like if I'm not married, rightthis second, but if I'm with
somebody or whatever if I'mgoing to eat, I'm going to make
sure that you have food.
If I'm going to drink, I'mgoing to make sure you have a
drink, or whatever.
So it will upset me to this day.

Ryan (34:43):
If your man comes home, if he comes and he's got one box
of food or one thing of food.

Styles (34:48):
Your beard smells like burgers.

Petra (34:50):
Yes, and I take you going to eat without me.
Personally, I take it personal.

Jay (34:55):
That's the thing too.
Like to speak to your point andyour point.
For me it was because I've beenin that situation, you know
where it's like, I call and youknow there's no answer and I'm
like, well, I'm going to getsome Jamaican food.
But I don't even know what youwould eat from the Jamaican spot
, so I can't really get you makethat shit up so.
So what I had, so what I had todo was I had to take the make

(35:18):
the effort of paying attentionand learning what you like and
what you eat when you go tocertain spots.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
And so if it's like, if I say,well damn, I want some cuisine
tonight, if I don't know whatyou like from the Indian spot,
maybe I should defer to Jamaican, you know?

Petra (35:32):
what I'm saying Right right right, that's a good point
, you know what I mean yeah.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Little things matter, yeah,like people don't realize.

Styles (35:39):
But something that simple as knowing what your
partner eats from just about Ithink we need to stop saying
little as it relates to things,because that's a misnomer.
Those are big things.
Yeah, like the little bigthings Probably.
Yeah, because I did.

Petra (35:55):
I was like you didn't get her no food, like at the start
of the story.
I was like he didn't get her nofood.

Ryan (35:59):
Yeah, yeah, I know he didn't get her no food.

You knew the part time before I knew.

Ryan (36:12):
I was like, please tell me you ain't bringing no food.
So yeah, it is a big thing,yeah, it is a big oh, yeah, yeah
.

Petra (36:14):
But yeah, but, like I said, I think that that's lesson
learned.
Lesson learned.

Ryan (36:16):
You didn't do it, you didn't repeat it whatever lesson
line, yeah, but that's thething I like to you know.
I do like to promise of okay ifI learn to learn from your
mistakes, and that's how I makethe same so, and that's really
what, what it was, yeah, so Iwas like, alright, cool, that's
it.
It's just a dab, that's it yeah.

Styles (36:36):
I agree, I keep forgetting.
I'm trying to get used to thiswhole visual thing.
I'm over here texting andtalking.
Oh yeah, I'm trying to payattention.
I'm just rude as shit righthere.
My fault, my fault, I didn't.
My apologies.
I agree with whatever was said.
All right, I feel like that'sthe best way to wrap it up, yeah
, so let's move on to somethingelse.
I do have a.

(36:57):
Actually this is one of Ryan's.
You know we do a littleroundtable discussion.
What's a classic song thateveryone loves but you know you
hate.

Ryan (37:06):
Oh yeah.

Petra (37:08):
I'll start it.

Styles (37:09):
I can start it.

Ryan (37:10):
You know, I know we don't do backstory time a little bit.
It was just a group chat we hadwith my, you know,
sister-in-laws and stuff likethat and it came up.
It was discovered, for whateverreason, discovered.
I like that.
My sister-in-law does notconsider Waterfall by TLC a
classic, and that's how theconversation Same.

Styles (37:28):
Wow.

Ryan (37:28):
Okay, well.

Styles (37:31):
I'm not going to fight y'all on it, I just I'm
surprised.

Ryan (37:34):
It was kind of a debate, but just to get to the point, a
song that I think is a classicbut I can't stand, mainly
because it just sounds like anuncle just nagging like a young
nigga.
It's Huh by Juvenile.
The whole thing sounds like Huhby Juvenile.
It's classic.
I don't.
I never liked it, it's justsome that's you with that Benz

(37:55):
huh, that's you fucking thefriends.
Huh, that's you, it's classic.

Styles (37:59):
You gotta think about the time that it was actually,
that it actually came out wasGenius and all the rappers at
the time to jump on that, to dothat.
It was like they knew it wasGene.

Ryan (38:09):
I just felt like why are you asking this young nigga all
these questions?
Your dick got hard, huh, yougot them brawns.

That's it.

Ryan (38:17):
That's my answer, yeah so.
I know it's a classic.
I didn't like it for thatreason.
It just felt like someone justnagging a young dude.

Petra (38:30):
Okay, I didn't like it for that reason.
It just felt like someone justnagging a young dude.
Well, mine is even more of aclassic and it's played
everywhere, Anytime you go toany bar or barbecue whatever,
I'm scared now.
Montel Jordan.
This is how we do it.

Jay (38:40):
When I tell you I loathe that song.

Petra (38:43):
I loathe it.
I'm like why y'all, why we gotto do it all the time, why he
always here.

Styles (38:51):
I don't like it Every time I come to the barbecue you
at the barbecue Every time.
Every time I go to the bar.
You at the bar.
Why you at the bar?
Huh All the time.

Petra (39:01):
You eating the barbecue huh, this is how we do it.
It rubs me the wrong way, Idon't care for it, I don't care
for it.
I could be jamming.
It could be the best song wecould be on the dance floor.
Come on, I tip out like church.

Ryan (39:14):
I feel like this Is how we Do it and Return of the Mack
are like two songs that are just.
They just cross all boundaries.
I love Return of the Mack.

Jay (39:24):
I was about to say.
I was about to say I can dealwith.

Petra (39:26):
Return of the Mack, return of the Mac, but this is
how we do it yo, you could be atan all white party.

Ryan (39:32):
Monta Jordan, come on, everybody know it yeah, return
of the Mac.
Come on, everybody, you couldbe at a white function, black
function, a mixed function,those two songs come on.
It's just like it cross allracial boundaries but you know
what?

Petra (39:44):
it cross all boundaries, it's everywhere.
So that means every time youturn your head, it's at the
white party, it's at the blackparty, it's at every function.

Ryan (39:53):
That shit was in high school like a high school prom
yeah.

Petra (39:57):
And I probably was early on going.
I don't really like this but Ican't tell anybody and I would
shimmy to it then.
But in my big age now I'm notparticipating All right.

Jay (40:10):
Y at your age.
Now I'm not participating.
Y'all don't kill me.

Styles (40:12):
Nah, go ahead.

Jay (40:13):
I will always love you.
By Whitney Houston.

Styles (40:16):
That's not a classic.

Jay (40:18):
I mean, yeah, it's a classic, but I can't stand it.

That was a question, right, yeah, that was
a question.
I'm surprised.

Ryan (40:26):
Wait, but also.

Styles (40:27):
I think that, in addition to the question, you
don't consider it a classic yeah, I can't stand it, wait.
But also I think that, inaddition to the question, it's
like you don't consider it aclassic?

Jay (40:31):
Yeah, I don't consider that a classic, you don't no?

Styles (40:34):
No, so I have questions.
Yeah, why?
I mean, he's my main question.
Well, that too.
Hold on, let me compound andcomplicate that for you.

Okay.

Styles (40:51):
What do you consider a classic?
I consider, and then why?
Okay, I consider a song aclassic that.

Jay (40:52):
Now I asked you to define it.
Okay, you said what do Iconsider a classic?
Yeah, what song specifically?
What song?
Okay, a lot of songs.
Man Change Gonna Come by SamCooke.
That's a classic.

Styles (41:02):
I knew he was going to say that Heads down, heads down.

That's a classic.

Jay (41:08):
There's an old song.
It's called Staggerly.
I don't know if you know aboutthat one.
I consider that a classic.
I got to look that up.
I consider, you know, sexualhealing as a classic.

Styles (41:19):
All right, I'm going to need you to join the decade that
we're in.
Okay, because you're cheatingright now.

Petra (41:25):
I was just saying, no, you're cheating, though I didn't
know we was going back there.
I was just like, yeah, thisnigga's like remember when we
had that 19 inch.

Styles (41:33):
Sorry that nine inch black and white television Woo.
Yeah, that's the classic.

Jay (41:39):
This new fangled shit with the fire stick and all of that.
We ain't fucking with that.
Okay, so we could probably evengo with the.
Do we want to go with the sameartist?

Styles (41:57):
It doesn't matter.

Jay (41:58):
Nah, we don't want to do that either.

Styles (42:00):
You just don't like, whitney, it's not a thing about
Whitney.
We're going to put a bookmarkin that and I'm not editing this
out.
All of this is going to be inthere, bookmarking that and I'm
not editing this out.

Jay (42:10):
All of this is going to be in there, so just wants to know
what type of beer you want.
Okay, uh, corona and I willsend her the money.

Styles (42:17):
Copy that okay but yeah, uh.

Jay (42:20):
So if we look at like something that I would consider
like like new edition you knowI'm saying anything by new
edition, damn near, damn near.
Can you Stand the Rain?
Okay, sorry, you're Not my Kindof Girl.

Petra (42:33):
If it Isn't Love.
Which one do you hate out ofall the classics In the right
era?
Because you in the right era.
Now, what do you hate?
I just told y'all you don'thate New Edition Whitney.

Jay (42:43):
Houston, I will always love you.
No, I will always love you.
No, I will always love you.

Petra (42:48):
I was about to say.

Jay (42:49):
As a whole.
That's it.
That's it.

Petra (42:51):
We can't fuck with Bobby as hard as we do and hate
Whitney as a whole.

Jay (42:54):
I don't.
I don't hate Whitney as a whole, I just don't like that
Particular song it felt like DidWhitney like Give?
You the husband, when you wereyounger.
No no.
It's just that song, that songrubs me the wrong way, like for
real.

Styles (43:10):
But why though?

Jay (43:11):
I don't know, I just didn't like it.

Petra (43:15):
Was it everywhere.
It was everywhere.

Jay (43:18):
I heard it too much and I got tired of it.

Styles (43:21):
So was there ever a point that you liked it?
No, you said you heard it toomuch.

Jay (43:24):
Yeah but I never liked it so much.
Yeah, but I never liked it.
So hearing it too much and notever liking it.
Now you hate it, yeah.

Ryan (43:31):
Yeah, exactly.
What about you Styles A songthat's a classic.

Jay (43:36):
I don't have it, nah, nah, I don't have one.
I honestly don't have one.

Styles (43:39):
I steered at this thing for a very long time Because you
put this in there about Paul,you put this in here about.
I want to say yeah, and youstill don't have one.

Jay (43:47):
So here's the thing.
If you had to make one up, youwant me to guess?

Styles (43:51):
Yeah, just pick one.

Petra (43:52):
Just do that for the Just pick one, pull it out there.

Ryan (43:55):
You're out here looking like John John, the Don's uncle.

Styles (43:57):
Give me like a rap song.
I like that, I like that,anything, lil Jon.

Jay (44:03):
Oh, anything Lil Jon.

Ryan (44:05):
Yeah, anything, lou Jordan .
Yeah, the reason being isbecause I always thought that it
was kitschy.
Oh funny story.
We was in Houston.
You know, the pause the husbandmovie date, so we're riding
around, and so I love Southernhip hop.
I love Southern hip hop sowe're riding around.
You know Styles' shotgun, soI'm running up the auction.

Jay (44:29):
The way he's laughing, you's laughing.
I'm running my workout, this ismy workout playlist.

Ryan (44:33):
I got some southern songs on there.
Damn, I mean not damn YoungBloods.
Yeah, you don't give a damn, wedon't give a fuck.
Come on this man Styles.
Looks at me.
Lil Jon hits the chorus, orwhatever he was like.
Ain't that the yin yang twinnigga I was like you called him
the yin yang nigga.

(44:53):
This is not the yin yang no.
I was like why you, why youdisrespect Lil Jon, like that.
I was like this is not the yinyang twin, it's funny yo.

Styles (45:03):
Ryan laughed so fucking hard cause I think that what
happened was you put the imageof the yin-yang twin.
He was like, yeah, them niggasgot to be triplets.

They got to be triplets bro.
They favor.

Styles (45:18):
Yeah, and that was a thing.
So anything Lil Jon, becausethe ad-libs I just couldn't fuck
with it, like after Lovers andfriends.
Anything Lil Jon.

Petra (45:28):
Dang, he meant it.
I thought that was going settlethat out.
Yeah, nah, nah, I know.

Jay (45:31):
I know.

Styles (45:32):
Hardest bro.
I swatted that shit.
She was like Get that shit outof here.

Ryan (45:36):
But just Like you, just thought you like you cool with
southern hip hop.
You just on rock Lil Jon, okay,100%.

Styles (45:43):
I think that Luda's Probably one of the best ever.

Jay (45:45):
See, no, you don't think that.
Listen, I said one of the best.
No, no, he's definitelyunderrated.
He's not even in theconversation.

Styles (45:52):
He's crazy, stop playing .
He's top five for the South.

Petra (45:55):
For the South, absolutely not All right, no, no no,
absolutely not.

Jay (45:58):
But what?

Petra (45:59):
does he say you are I mean he's in the talking about.

Jay (46:07):
Are you serious?

I am not talking about record sales.

Jay (46:12):
I just, I just went to, like, like last year, went to
janet jackson and lou theconcert he played.
He played all the hits, thewhole catalog, and it was no,
all the hits and it was cool,you know just cool you know I'm
saying, but it's like so here'sthe thing.
Like his style of hip-hopdoesn't appeal to me, it's too
all animated.

Styles (46:28):
You know what I'm saying .
So who's your top five?
Not even top five, you don'teven have to give me a top five
in the South, but who's yourfavorite?

Jay (46:36):
Andre 3000.

Styles (46:37):
Oh, 100%, yeah, 100%.
I can't argue with that.
You know what?

Ryan (46:41):
He don't have a solo album , but I can't argue with that.

Jay (46:44):
We talking about him, scarface TI.

Styles (46:48):
Oh, technically, hold on he does have a the Love Below.

Jay (46:55):
It was a double album.

Styles (46:56):
Him and you know.

Petra (46:58):
Those guys, man, but you don't, I don't know how you put
it.

Jay (47:03):
You never heard me say play that Luda shit.
You never heard me play Luda,play Luda, luda, comes on, luda,
comes on, like you are so rightluda comes on and I changed
that shit now luda nice man.

Styles (47:15):
Wow.
Yeah, luda, I don't agree withshauna.

Petra (47:17):
You forgot shauna yeah, yeah, she's still out there
doing her thing, yo ever sinceshe was in the little 85 nigga.

Jay (47:25):
What was it?
I-85 or something I?
I don't know.

Ryan (47:29):
Oh, I-90.
I-90.
No, I-20.

Jay (47:32):
I-20.
I'm not saying that Y'alltalking about the I-95, man we
was about to take it this far.
Listen, the only one out ofthat whole little DTP that I
ever really fucked with wasTitty Boy, which is 2 Chainz,
and I don't even like that.

I don't even like that post.

Styles (47:47):
That's why I was like man when he did Duffel Bag Boy.
The only reason I like that isbecause Wayne was on it.

Jay (47:54):
Not because he was on it, but I like chains, though you
know what I'm saying.

Styles (47:58):
I like chains, but he had to grow one.
You are disqualified as havingan opinion.

Jay (48:09):
No over and I know it's probably an unpopular opinion,
but I like 2 Chainz over.

Luda, I don't think that's possible.

Petra (48:15):
I just feel like Luda put a stamp.
He did it again.

Jay (48:19):
I had to catch myself, I caught myself.
But I'm trying to.

He did.

Petra (48:25):
He did like get your ass.

Styles (48:27):
Nigga tried to hit me with the no look, because he
wasn't even looking.

Petra (48:31):
But I just think Luda he, he paved a way For these guys
To be animated and everything,and Even when he People don't
really Listen to him, when he'snot animated, but he actually Is
a very good lyricist.

Jay (48:45):
Like I never liked him 100% .
I agree, I I don't dislike them.

Styles (48:49):
Nah, his lyrics was crazy.

Petra (48:50):
If you ain't, gonna if you gonna skip him every time.

Jay (48:53):
Nah, but like you gotta understand, if I'm listening to
to Ghetto Boy Scarface type, youknow what I'm saying.

Big.

Jay (49:00):
Mike, you know what I'm saying.
Ugk.

Petra (49:10):
If I'm listening to all these guys and you put some
fucking outcast.

Jay (49:12):
You know goody mob, you put some fucking luda on, but you
gotta put luda on.

Ryan (49:13):
There was a moment, there was an era where luda was
arguably the king of the southit was a moment absolutely
fucking not absolutely fuckingnot.
He was on everything, he wasfeatured on everything okay, so
ti and luda had a b-ball king ofthe south, absolutely, and, and
, and you know, take it back tolike some some.
There are a lot of examples Icould give you, tr and.

Jay (49:28):
Luda had a b-ball at King of the South.
Absolutely.
Take it back to.
There are a lot of examples Icould give you of people who
were well known and everybodyflocked to them.
Look, there was a time MikeJones was the hottest
motherfucker around.

Ryan (49:42):
But am I lying?

Styles (49:44):
Am I lying?

You're not lying at all and he was trash, but I
knew he was trash.

Petra (49:49):
Yeah, he was trash.

Styles (49:50):
But I knew he was trash.

Petra (49:51):
But Luda ain't trash.
You can't put Mike Jones inLuda's head and say he got damn
right Yo 100%.

Styles (49:57):
Mike Jones needs to be in a conversation to hip hop
each and every time.
8-0-0-4.

Ryan (50:02):
Listen no, but I'm going to tell y'all who I would listen
to over Mike Jones any day.

Styles (50:08):
I'm sorry, go ahead.

Jay (50:10):
The little Rich Boy.
I used to actually like RichBoy's stuff man Rich Boy was
fire too.

Styles (50:14):
He wasn't a lyricist, but yeah Rich.

Jay (50:16):
Boy was fire.

Styles (50:20):
Rich Boy or Rich Homie Quan.
No, you're talking about RichBoy, rich Boy, okay got it.

Jay (50:23):
I listen to Quan.
I like Quan but I can'tunderstand the nigga personally.

Ryan (50:30):
Nah, but you like Quan over Luda.
Yeah, I like Quan over Luda,absolutely.
That's all they didn't know,Absolutely.

Jay (50:33):
That's cool, yeah, that's cool.
Like I could play you a Ludatrack and then a Quan track.
Right now, the Quan track gonnabe it's gonna hit different,
though, yeah it's gonna hit verydifferent, but they made Now
Luda.
Luda was fucking the bitches,Arguably he.

It was like party music, it was club music, it was
a vibe.
I give him that you can't arguethat.

Jay (50:55):
No, I'm saying, I'm saying I give him that I would stand
that point for him.
But like anything else man.

Petra (51:01):
You just wasn't riding in your car listening to Luda?

Jay (51:03):
No, I never been like Play.

He said Play that.

Styles (51:07):
Luda.
He changed the station and thenasked Was that Luda?
I?

just changed.
Yeah, right, here we go nigga,make up your mind.

Styles (51:14):
You leaning back, you not leaning back what you doing,
so after I.

Jay (51:16):
So here's the thing I got you my fault, my fault, my fault
.

Styles (51:19):
We gotta, we gotta, come up With a little rhythm.

I got the rhythm, the.
Moment.

Ryan (51:24):
The moment you say you listen to Rich Homie Quan over
Luda.

I can't argue with you man.

Ryan (51:28):
You just got your opinion, and that's it.
I have my yeah, that's it, but.

Styles (51:31):
But there's only one song from Rich Homie Quan that I
listen to, just one.
No, not even that one, becauseI don't understand them niggas.
But I'm talking about the otherone with With Young Thug.

Ryan (51:42):
Yeah, my type of the lifestyle.

No, not lifestyle Type of way, type of way, that's
it.

Styles (51:48):
I'll go downstairs right now and play that shit Like I'm
ready to listen to it right now.

Jay (51:53):
But that's it though.

Styles (51:54):
After that, I don't want nothing else.
I'm good.

Jay (51:56):
I get it.
I'm just saying for me, nodisrespect to Luda Area Codes, I
mean, and that was Come on youwas a pretty boy.

Styles (52:04):
You know who made that song.

Jay (52:05):
You know who made that song .
Who made the song.
Who made the song?
Nate Dogg, nate Dogg.
The song was hot because ofNate Dogg.
No disrespect.

Styles (52:15):
Nate Dogg.
He never did it for me, paul.
He never.
I never was like yo Nate's on asong.
Let me get it, because he washarmonizing.

I respect Nate Dogg, but I feel the same way,
Nate never hit Nate Dogg but, I,feel the same way.

Jay (52:29):
They never hit.

Styles (52:30):
He made the songs hit.

Jay (52:32):
He made the songs hit, yeah , but he just did the little bar
, Like he wasn't respect whatI'm telling you is if you take
Nate Dogg off of Area Code.
It's not the song that it.

Petra (52:45):
You can put Snoop on there singing I Got Hose.
You can put anybody on theresinging I Got Hose.
You can put anybody on theresinging I Got Hose.

Jay (52:50):
You think it would have been better?
The track was cool.
Vip, vip.
You don't like the cadence.
I don't like his cadence.

Petra (53:03):
You sound like DMX.
I don't like the nigga's hair.
I don't like the way he walk.

Jay (53:07):
I don't like the way he dress, I don't like his face.
I like him as an actor.
I like him in movies.
I like, like I just said, Iwent to a show, I vibed out, I
had a great time, but it'sbecause he was there, you
understand what I'm saying,anybody else could have been
just.

Ryan (53:25):
Just is okay, all right.
Stiles, as a native New Yorker,you're telling me when Fab came
up with that single I can'tdeny it with Nate.
Nate ain't make that song kindof like, add a little more spice
to that thing.

Styles (53:40):
Nah, he did, but I'm going to let you in on a little
something.
I wasn't a Fab fan coming upand Fab's from Brooklyn.
However, the dude is dead, nice, dead nice.
I just don't like.
I don't know what it was.
It was as he got older.
I started to.

(54:01):
It just started to hit pause.

Jay (54:03):
He's his looter.

Styles (54:05):
No, no, no, you ain't looter, you ain't looter.
I don't hate Luda.
The nigga just said.

Petra (54:13):
He not gonna turn from Fab, exactly.

Jay (54:14):
I'm not turning from Fab.
I'm gonna turn from Luda,because here's the thing there's
so much other music that Iprefer to listen to.

Styles (54:21):
I started liking Fab when Fab started doing Songs
with Lil Mo.

Ryan (54:26):
Okay.

Styles (54:27):
Superwoman yeah, that's when I started liking her,
because I thought that that wasa crazy duo, yeah, together, and
I always thought, like Moe was,like she was the shit.
Yeah, I loved her Right, butthen I started hearing her by
herself and I felt like shenever got the records she never
got the recognition or the rightmaterial to really put her on
the platform that she needs tobe we really sitting here

(54:47):
talking about Lil' Mo?
You talking about Lil' Mo nigga?
Yes, what are you talking about?
Who would you like to talkabout, so I can clown them?

Ryan (54:55):
You just going to clown them just because, rich Homie
Quan, you want to talk aboutsome Rich Homie Quan.

Styles (55:00):
Basically the Mumble niggas, the original Mumble
niggas.

Jay (55:03):
So here's the thing While everybody, while everybody else
was like dissing him about beingmumble like they mumble, shit
was cool now you want to hearsome mumble?

Ryan (55:12):
shit that I never really did get with until like towards
the end, didn't rich homie kwanhad that one dance where he was
trying to fuck himself?

Jay (55:18):
where he did what?
That's crazy.

Ryan (55:20):
He had a dance where he's trying to fuck himself.

Jay (55:21):
Yeah, it looked crazy oh no , he had a gay looking dance
okay, I mean, and I mean, youknow, no disrespect to anyone of
any alternative lifestyles oranything like that, but I'm just
saying the dance looked weirdto straight men.

Styles (55:36):
OK, all right, let's jump off that pause.
Let's go to transgenderscompeting in the Women's
Olympics.
Competing as women?
Now, let me fix that up,because that, that, that, yeah,
I get my head chopped off forthat, for no reason.
But anyway, transgenderscompeting against women in the

(55:57):
olympics?
Now when I don't give a fuck.
You want a skeet ball, do that.
You want to play ping pong?
Do that.
You want to put a transit?
You?
I mean, if you're going tocompete against women and stuff
like that, if you want to.
When it comes as it relates tophysical contact that's, a man
beating on a woman I don't givea fuck which way you try to

(56:22):
switch it up right, and this isnot meant to offend anybody.
These are facts.
I'm coming to you with thefacts.
I'm not coming to you with thethought process of what you want
to be identified as right.
Fuck it.
Identify me as a fucking teacup.
What the fuck?
That shit means nothing because, at the end of the day, science
says I'm a man.
You understand.
So the way I'm looking at it isthis I think it's dead wrong.

(56:44):
I don't think that if you wantto and again, this is not me
coming for transgenders.
What you want to do with yourbody and your life, that's on
you.
I'm not.
I'm not judging you for it.
It might not be for me, but Idon't think that you should be
putting your hands on womenunder the guise of you being a

(57:08):
transgender.
That's just the way I see it.
What say y'all?

Jay (57:13):
I agree with you Say, for example, you have a transgender
that wants to box in women'sboxing.

Styles (57:19):
They haven't.

Jay (57:20):
Absolutely not.

Styles (57:21):
That's not okay.

I'm not saying yeah, yeah, this is where I'm
grabbing this from.
Yeah, yeah, no that's not okay.

Jay (57:26):
I don't care.
Like you said, geneticallyspeaking you are a man.
You may not feel like a man onthe inside.
You may not think like a man,you may not want to be a man,
but, like you said, sciencedeems you as a man and so,
because of that, you.
It's not a fair competition, inmy opinion.
It's not a fair competition.

(57:47):
So you know, hey, why don't allthe transgenders just have
their own thing where they cancompete against each other.

Ryan (57:53):
I was thinking the same thing.
A different division, if youjust open up a space where, if
you transition from one sex toanother, here's some type of
sports association where you cancompete against each other.
Even the the playing field.
I agree with that.
I didn't even think about that.
I agree with that.
One thing I wholeheartedlyagree with you I like to

(58:14):
consider myself very open-minded.
I'm all about inclusion anddiversity.
Just like you said, if you wereborn a male and you want to
change it to a female, cool.
If you want me to identify youas she or her, cool.
But just like you said, I feellike, especially in physical

(58:35):
stuff, just just a sports genderin general, that doesn't give
you the right to really competeagainst the naturally born
female.
And if you remember, likethat's happened, like every few
years or so we get a story likethat, like I know I forget his
name, but it was like a man whowas like maybe like ranked 300

(58:55):
in the country in swimming.
He got a sex change to become awoman.
He was, like you know, theMichael Phepster to shit.

Petra (59:02):
You know what I'm saying?
Of course, blowing everybody up.

Ryan (59:16):
And like just and even before that same thing, but it
was with UFC.
It was like someone whoidentified as a woman but was
biologically born a man andfought a naturally born woman
and it looked like a hate crime.
I think the person had afractured skull or something
like that.
It was bad.
You could look it up.
I forget the name, but Idisagree with that.
Just open up a space where theycould compete against each
other.

Petra (59:34):
I agree.

Ryan (59:36):
I respect your pronouns.
I'm not going to call thatperson who's transitioning to an
opposite sex.
I'm not going to say they're anit, none of that.
I respect you as a she, her, orif you transition the opposite
way, hey, I'll call you he, him,whatever.
But I just don't think youshould be competing against
natural born women if you werebiologically born a man.
But let me ask you a littlequestion.

(59:57):
Do you think because I wasreading some of the articles
like I think the IOC, theInternational Olympic Committee,
like they're like workingovertime, trying to like do what
?
They're like saying this is awitch hunt with the boxer and
olympics are calling it a witchhunt?
They're saying like they'retrying to make statements.
Like you know, some women justhave high testosterone, but I

(01:00:21):
forget her name.
But that same woman that you'retalking about, with olympics
just last year, she failed sometype of gender eligibility test,
which would make sense if shewas an actually born man.
So I just wanted you to take.
What do you think about theOlympics committee and so forth,

(01:00:42):
trying to like, I guess tryingto downplay it?

Styles (01:00:46):
I mean anything to protect the sport.
We look at how you call it.
We look at football basicallyprotecting itself against CTE.
They know good and goddamn wellthese kids, half of these
football players, are going tobe brain dead by the time
they're 50, 60.
So, if they're lucky, sothey're going to protect the

(01:01:07):
brand First and foremost.
They're going to protect thebrand.
I think, first and foremostthey're gonna protect the brand.
They don't care about, theycare about eyeballs.
They don't care about thepeople that bring the eyeballs
to them.
You know, I mean, they don't,they don't care about that.
Um, I just think that again,like I said, you know, I think,
well, jay actually said it bestcreate a division for them.

(01:01:29):
You know, because myself, as amartial artist, when I used to
compete and stuff like that andI'm talking about I've been
competing since you know what Imean, I was maybe 10 years old,
so it's kind of like I've seenthe divisions.
They used to be co-ed divisionsbut there comes a point where
they have to separate thedivisions because boys can no
longer fight girls, period.
You know, and you're trainingthem to fight.

(01:01:49):
You know, and you're trainingthem to fight.
You know, um, each other rightso they're trained in this, this
art.
Right to put hands and feet onpeople, right so you can't have
that.
And I've seen it where, even indivisions, where you know, they
separated it by age.
But remember, body type is so.
You might have a big boy, youknow, a big 10-year-old against

(01:02:12):
you know a smaller 10-year-oldgirl, yeah, and just because
their age man, you know, andI've seen parents get into it
over shit like that.

Ryan (01:02:20):
Yeah, because, like you said, the 10-year-old is big.
Yeah, big in size.

Styles (01:02:30):
Yeah.
So why would we do that in ouradult age on a big stadium like?
None of it makes sense.
It doesn't get what I'm saying.
I don't give a fuck who youfucking.
I don't care.
You know how y'all fucking.
I don't give a fuck what youwant to be and how you want to
be.
That that's all.
That's all up to you.
Do like, do your thing, yeah.
But when it comes to again likephysical contests and stuff
like that, you having to puthands and feet on the opposite

(01:02:52):
sex, whether you want toidentify as that or not, is
wrong.
Yeah, I don't give a fuck whichway you slice it.
You're going to say come for me,I don't give a fuck, you know,
because you sound stupid.
You look stupider, which iseven a fucking word.
You know what I mean so we'renot doing that.

Ryan (01:03:10):
And before you close it out to your point, like what Jay
said, like maybe you shouldcreate a space for one out.
But that's the same exactreason with, like men's boxing
right.
There's a reason why there's,you know, like different weight
divisions, because if alightweight is fighting, a

(01:03:31):
heavyweight.
That lightweight could die.

Multiple PPL (01:03:33):
That's literally the same thing.
It's the exact same thing.

Ryan (01:03:37):
I just want to bring that.
If you got weight division fora reason, you should have gender
divisions in that sense, allthe way across the board.

Styles (01:03:46):
I think there's one very important boy he's missing
right now.
It's Petra.

Petra (01:03:51):
No, I agree.
I agree that you should be ableto break it up all the way
across the board for everybody.
We are right now a nation whoare making a certain demographic
very comfortable to say theycan have and do whatever they
want without thinking about theothers involved.

(01:04:13):
Um, and you know it's notreally fair in a lot of areas,
but you know, if they want it,they get it, and that I don't
understand how that came about,where it was so easy to just
change how the world runsbecause one person or one
specific group of people feellike I don't like it.

(01:04:34):
So now we can't say thesethings, we can't do certain
things, you know, because of onedemographic.
So just because they feel likeI should be able to doesn't mean
that morally, when you are inthese fields, these sports, they
should be able to because theyare different.
We don't want a woman whoidentifies as a man to go into a

(01:04:59):
ring with, like you say, aheavyweight because she feel
heavyweight in her head and shemight be a little bit
heavyweight.
A heavyweight woman and aheavyweight man is two different
entities.

Jay (01:05:09):
Yeah, yeah, I know a couple .
I know a couple.
I got a cousin that'll whoopall eyes.

Petra (01:05:13):
I believe you and we all know a person here or there that
defeats the odds.
But they're defeating the odds.
We shouldn't keep doing thatand then expecting.
You know it's different.
Like Cat Williams said, I loveit when he tells the joke about
Tink Tink Because he had themetal leg.

(01:05:34):
And Tink Tink, that is myfavorite joke Because y'all
going to disqualify him, sayinghe had an advantage when he came
in with a disadvantage.
But you're going to disqualifyhim.
But this person, being 100pounds heavier than me, 6 feet
tall, and his strength isoutweighs mine by a million
times, that's not a disadvantagefor me, who usually in this

(01:05:57):
field, everybody looks andweighs and our body types are
the same.
But then this fella who wantsto be a lady and I'm not
crashing on anybody because Idon't care what you do either
they come in and they'recompeting with these people.

Jay (01:06:12):
It's not right, Because my thing too is like even if I
identify as something else, likeI still me personally.
I like competition, so I don'twant to go in there when I'm
going to easily win.
Where I'm going to, yeah.
It's like really you want towin that goddamn bag.

Ryan (01:06:29):
Right, right, right.
That's crazy, yeah, that's true, Very true, yeah.
But yeah, I think and that'sthe thing and that's just
because that topic came up is Ido feel like everyone should be
treated equal.
So it's not like I'm saying,you know, they should be treated
like scum, nothing like that.
I just feel like, in terms ofthat, I think that's just too.

(01:06:51):
I think that's too muchcatering to like a demographic
of what we have.
That's all I agree.

Styles (01:07:00):
There we go.
So, moving on, one of the lasttopics in here, um, I guess this
one is going to be just ascrazy as the last one.
But let's talk about theelection real quick.
Let's talk about politics fortwo seconds.
On a surface level, nothingdeep, but Kamala, am I

(01:07:25):
pronouncing it correctly?
Kamala, whatever, kamala.
For me, let me just state mystance real quick.
The government is all oneperson.
I don't give a fuck who you putin office.
They're all the same person,right, pardon?

(01:07:46):
They're all different peoplewith the same agenda.
It's all different people withthe same agenda, right, pardon?
They're all different peoplewith the same agenda.
It's all different people withthe same agenda, right?
So, whichever president you putup there, if you look at it,
just a timeline of how we farebetween presidents, right?
It doesn't do this and then dothat.
It doesn't do that, it doesthis.
It's a very slow arc.

(01:08:07):
You know why?
Because it has to remainconsistent.
So I don't care about any ofthat, right?
So when they're like yo, youneed to get out and vote For
what I'm voting for?
The same shit.
I don't think that voting's theanswer.
If that's your thing, that'syour thing.
You might look at me like I'mfucking stupid, I don't care.

Petra (01:08:24):
I rolled my eyes a little bit.

Styles (01:08:26):
No, which is cool?
Which is cool?
There are people out there.
Which is cool Because I'm weirdin that respect, because I feel
like we as a population havebeen raised to not question
things, right?
So, whatever it is, we're goingwith whichever is the popular
narrative and not creating ourown narrative, and that's the
problem, right?
Like for me, and not to get offtopic, I'm going to make this

(01:08:48):
real quick.
I personally don't think thatthe world is round, because it
doesn't make sense, and the onlyreason I say that is because I
sat back and I startedquestioning things, and it's
kind of like going to church onSunday talking to the pastor
Like yo, pastor, what happenswhen I die?
And he gives you an answerNigga, you don't know.
Shut the fuck up.
You know somebody that cameback, and this is just me.
Did somebody come back and tellyou what happened?

(01:09:10):
Yeah, and this is the thing,right, so I'm spiritual, I
believe that there's a higherbeing.
I believe that life isdefinitely a fucking miracle,
right?
Because when something happens,when the flesh just goes limp,
yeah, so there was a batterythat didn't die.
The battery didn't die.
It basically was like listen, Idon't want to stick around here
, no more.
So we're just going to gosomewhere else and we're just

(01:09:31):
going to do that thing.
But for the world to bespinning, think about this Water
, just water, real quick, sowater.
I'm on my TikTok shit now.
So water, basically, is goingto form whatever its container
is.
Right Now, they say that themoon basically impacts the waves

(01:09:58):
.
Right, the moon has something todo with the waves.
Now ask yourself right, ifwe're spinning thousands of
miles an hour, it doesn't impactthe water, but the fucking moon
does.
Not only are we spinningthousands of miles an hour, it
doesn't impact the water, butthe fucking moon does.
Not only are we spinningthousands, we're tumbling
through space at anotherastronomical speed, but the

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water just stays still as amotherfucker.
Stop it.
You understand?
I'm saying stop it it.
And I'm not saying that I havethe answer to that.
I don't, but I'm going to tellyou that.
But you're questioning.

Jay (01:10:30):
Yeah, the shit that you're telling me doesn't add up, it's
okay to question it, but we doknow that sometimes, when things
move at high enough speed, theyhave the ability to hold things
in place.

Styles (01:10:41):
So how does the moon affect it then?

Why is the?

Styles (01:10:44):
moon affected.
I think that.
So what they?

say is that the?

Jay (01:10:47):
moon is that the moon pulls or draws on you know, creating
the waves.
Yeah, the the moon's pull on onthe on the earth.

Styles (01:10:56):
Yeah, and the moon is is thousands of miles away from us
.

Jay (01:11:01):
But but there.
So here's my thing there is asolar system and all the planets
seem to somehow balance eachother out in some way and in a
way that sustains life for us.
We're able to live and breathe.

Styles (01:11:13):
I'm not even going to argue with you on that point.
Gravity does exist.

Jay (01:11:15):
Does it really Gravity?
Does exist.
What we think, what we considergravity Right, what we've been
taught gravity is.
My thing is this this is what Iwill say.

Yeah.

Jay (01:11:29):
We can choose to believe some of it, or we can choose to
believe none of it, but the factof the matter is that there is
a science to all of it 100, youknow.

Styles (01:11:38):
So the question is.

Jay (01:11:39):
So the question is like do they have it right when they say
that this is what causes this?
Because there's a great chancethat that ain't it.

Styles (01:11:48):
I got a better that is something else.

Jay (01:11:49):
You know what I mean saying .
I got a better one for you.
That it's something else youknow what I mean.

Styles (01:11:50):
I got a better one for you and I'm not going to turn
this into a tinfoil hat.
I'm not going to do that, and Ithink that people call it a
tinfoil hat because again, theywant to control the narrative
Not you, but them.
So here's the thing.
You know, the Earth's curvaturestarts at like eight miles,
right?
So after eight miles, anythingthat's sticking up has to start

(01:12:13):
getting shorter.
After eight miles, we've allbeen in a plane at 30,000 miles.
Tell me where the curvature is.
You've never seen it.
It's flat.

Jay (01:12:22):
So, I'm one of those people and she'll tell you I haven't
decided whether or not the earthis flat.

Petra (01:12:31):
We have a whole flat episode, but what I?

Jay (01:12:34):
have said, yeah, we have a whole flat earth.
I had a guy named Flat EarthDave on the show, but I'm not.
I'm still investigating it.
It's possible.

Styles (01:12:43):
Right.
Well, I've seen.
I've seen experiments whereby,for instance, there's a
shoreline and there's alighthouse.
The lighthouse, let's say thelighthouse, is 50 meters high,
right, but it's like 15 milesaway, so it shouldn't be 50

(01:13:04):
miles, 50 meters high.
If it curves, it should beright, it should get shorter.
So it doesn't.
So what's that saying?
So, either they say eitherthere's one or two things the
earth is flat, or it's justbigger than what they're saying.

Jay (01:13:18):
The latter could very well be true, because who the fuck
went out there and measured that?

Ryan (01:13:21):
What about?

Styles (01:13:22):
Yeah, but what about?
My thing is like what about thewater?
You ever try to pour water on afucking balloon?
I'm as like, yeah, right, so ifthat's in and this is like it's
like the small common senseshit that fucks me up, and then
it's like all these people comein here like, yeah, but you have
to also remember who you'regetting your information from.

(01:13:43):
If I get my information from anigga that's known to lie,
what's?

Jay (01:13:46):
that's where the whole thing right exactly that's where
the whole thing comes in.

Styles (01:13:49):
Right, exactly that's where the whole thing comes in
for me.

Jay (01:13:51):
Like a known liar, I have to question everything this
motherfucker does.
But why would we believe the?

Styles (01:13:56):
government, though I don't believe it.
You know that Rockefeller'sresponsible for the school
system.

Jay (01:14:02):
I don't want to get into that.
All right, we'll leave thatalone.
I know I don't want to get intothat, but you said something
about you were talking aboutgovernment and you were talking
about Kamala.
Kamala, all right, or Kamala?

Styles (01:14:12):
Whatever.
So we'll get back.
And no disrespect, I'm not evensaying it in a disrespectful
manner, it's just that you knowwhatever there are a lot of
people about on a surface level.
So I've already explained thatI'm not super duper political,
so I don't know about theaccomplishments nor the fails.
I know about the narrative.
I know about people wanting tovote for her because she's black

(01:14:34):
and she's a woman.
Is that enough?

Jay (01:14:39):
I think that is ignorant.

Ryan (01:14:41):
That is ignorant.

Jay (01:14:42):
It is Okay, I got you, that is ignorant to vote just
because she's black and she's awoman.
But I'll be honest with you.

Ryan (01:14:50):
You're going to vote for her because of that.
No, no, not because of that.

Jay (01:14:53):
But I'm not going to vote for the other one.

Petra (01:14:56):
That is where I stand.

Ryan (01:14:58):
I agree, I agree.

Jay (01:15:01):
So I would vote for a fucking three-legged pony.
Because we got to keep that oneout of there and then we can
come back later on and deal withthem.
You understand?
what I'm saying Does that makesense, but not to vote is the
worst thing that any of us coulddo, because not to vote for one
is to vote for his ass,basically.

(01:15:24):
Well, not to vote for the otherone is to vote for him.
Other one, it's to vote for him, and so you know, I feel like
it's extremely important that wepick the lesser of two evils
and then we try to work throughit.
Now I'm getting ready to gosomewhere with you and then I'm
going to shut the fuck up andlet y'all finish this particular
conversation.
There's a book.
It's called Behold the PaleHorse, by a man named William

(01:15:47):
Cooper.
If you ever get a chance tolisten to it audibly, because
you can't buy it, they'vesuppressed it.
Yeah, they've suppressed it.
You can find copies at certainplaces used stuff but it's hard
to find.
But there is a place where youcan listen to it audibly, unless
that's no longer there.
Anyway, I probably shouldn't betalking about this shit, but

(01:16:10):
what I will say is that he saidsomething in this particular
book.
He was a high ranking navalofficer who found some very
exclusive and top secretdocuments in a Xerox machine
back in like I think it was theearly 80s and he wrote this book
and he did a lot of researchand investigations and he found
a lot of things and he's nolonger with us.

(01:16:31):
But I said all that to say this.
In this book he literallyexplains what you said, that hey
, the votes of the people ain'tgot nothing to do with nothing.
They're actors on a stage actingout this scene to make you
think that you're voting andyou're making these decisions
and in reality, it's one teamand they're acting this thing
out and the end result is goingto be the end result, no matter

(01:16:53):
what happens.
Now, does that mean that weshouldn't vote?
I say no because in my mind I'mlike, okay, I hear all that,
but what if I'm wrong?
I'm still going to vote anyway.
I mean, that's why we pray togod, yeah, but I'm still gonna
vote.
It's what if I'm wrong?

(01:17:13):
Because you don't know, faithwithout works is dead right.
So I gotta do some work if I,if I actually have some faith.
So my thing is, regardless ofwhat, I'm still gonna go out and
and and vote the way that Iwould like to see things go.

Styles (01:17:22):
But, jay, let me ask you a question you think that
there's a better way a betterway way.
A better way.
Well, I mean, we all clearlyknow that that's blind faith,
because we can't, we're notthere counting it, you
understand?
And now everything's electric.

Jay (01:17:35):
Right.

Styles (01:17:36):
You know.
So if everything's electric,like for instance the ballots
and stuff like that and countersand stuff like that, and again
we're not there, it's just ascary fucking moment.

Jay (01:17:48):
Yeah, it is, but the thing is okay.
It goes back to what everybodysays all the time, like if you
don't do your part you don'thave a right to complain.
So for me, I look at it and I'mlike, okay, everybody's like
well, man, you know that fuckingbuilding's going to fall, man,
and there's nothing we can do tostop that goddamn building from
falling.
Well, if we don't do anythingand then the building falls,
don't say shit because youdidn't even fucking try.

(01:18:10):

Styles (01:18:11):
At least if we tried, now we can bitch about the
building.
Oh, no, no, no, I'm not sayingthat.
That's a good point, that's agreat point.

Ryan (01:18:18):
I'm not saying that.

Styles (01:18:21):
Great point that if we know that, even in voting, or
have an inkling that even invoting and this is what I'm
talking about this is what we'retaught in school we're not
taught to actually think forourselves.
That's not what we're taught todo.
So when it happens outside ofthat, it's an anomaly.
Right, that's why people don'twork together.

(01:18:43):
Right, because they teachseparation.

Petra (01:18:46):
Because if you teach, you know know individuality
community won't be in the flock,you won't get in line there you
go.

Styles (01:18:52):
so, with with us recognizing the fact that
there's, oh you know, theslightest possibility that the
um, you know that the voting, orhow the the president's chosen,
or how these elected officialsare chosen, why not press for a
different way to do it, or tryto figure out a different way to

(01:19:13):
do something that's a littlebit more transparent?

Jay (01:19:18):
We can't.
But I'm going to tell you thisyou said we can't, we can, right
, we can do that, right, but itwon't work.
And you want me to tell you whyit won't work.
That was negative.
Okay, I'm going to tell you whyit won't work.
And there's nothing wrong.
We still should try it anyway.
That's what I've been saying,that's my point.

Styles (01:19:34):
That's exactly what you said.
You know, I was ready.

Jay (01:19:37):
We should still try it anyway, but I don't have faith
buckets of water out of the boat.
Even I know the bitch gonna sink.
Yeah, and the reason is because?
The reason is because thinkabout these jobs that you had
right.
Where things were not right, itwas unjust, it was, it was
wrong, right, and all it tookwas for a certain group or a

(01:20:00):
certain number of people to say,man, fuck, that, we're not
doing anything until you fixthis.
But that can't happen, becausewhen it all boils down, the
motherfucker who tried to say,hey, let's get together and do
this, they're gonna throw hisass under the bus.
Or the guys who worked overtimeand get the little bit of extra
couple of dollars, they won'tget on board.

(01:20:21):
Right, right, you know what I'msaying.
That's why the shit ain't gonnawork, because you always got
the motherfuckers.
That's worried about me, myfour and no motherfucker more.

Ryan (01:20:30):
Right.
Look at Colin Kaepernick.
He took a stand and not manyplayers got behind him Exactly.

Jay (01:20:35):
Exactly because look, man, like I know we getting scraps,
but I like my scraps and I don'twant to do it.

Styles (01:20:42):
But see I can't fuck with that, because I can't even
subscribe to it, and what you'resaying is 100% right.

Jay (01:20:47):
It is what it is.

Styles (01:20:48):
As far as the mentality is concerned, Absolutely.
What I'm saying is that maybewe need to, not even maybe the
mentality needs to change.

Jay (01:20:55):
I agree, oh for sure, I agree.
So what are we going to do?

Styles (01:20:59):
We going to kill the house, niggas it's a discussion
it's a discussion, but at thesame time, though we have to, it
has to be discussed.
It can't?
We can't just close our eyesand like we have kids.

Jay (01:21:17):
I don't want my son to be subjected to that.
I don't even allow my son tonow what's up now?
You just hit it on the head.
What's that pause?
We have to start teaching thenext generation man man we got
to like because but how can weteach the next generation
something that we don't even?
Because Cleophas and them are alost fucking cause bro.

Styles (01:21:33):
But this is the thing, though they're not going to
change.
But this is the thing, thoughwe can't teach the kids
something we don't subscribe to.

Jay (01:21:41):
But the ones who do like.
And so here's the thing,cleophas.
And in them, they ain't raisingtheir kids.
They busy working, which thisis in the book too.
They busy working andpatronizing and doing all this
other shit.
They ain't raising the kids.
There's a whole nother systemthat raises kids.
This woman works in child care,basically in education.
Right, she spends more timewith your kids than.

(01:22:03):
Cleo was in them, dude, 100% soyour kids than Cleophas and them
do 100% so.
And she's woke, she's conscious.
So guess what?
The parents didn't know, theteachers didn't know.
Get together and start moldingand shaping and making the next
generation.

Petra (01:22:17):
We don't put enough financialbacking behind the teachers and
everything for them to do whatthey need to do.
And I'm sorry, but thisgeneration that's coming up now,
these little ones that's comingup now, they coming from the
womb, messed up, like,unfortunately, like I've never
seen so many kids on thespectrum.

Styles (01:22:38):
It's crazy, but you know , that's for me the way.
I think you know, and some maysay it's a conspiracy.
There is, and some may say it'sa conspiracy theory, rather.
But remember, the person thatjumped out the window was like
it's a conspiracy, and this iswise, because that was the
person that actually hadsomething to hide.
Yeah, because you got it.
Now you got to debunk it.

(01:22:59):
So what's a better way todebunk something than to call
something crazy?
You have to call it crazy Firstof all.
You're crazy.
Alright, I'm crazy.
I'm crazy because I disagreewith you.

Petra (01:23:08):
Exactly.

Styles (01:23:08):
Second of all, who the fuck are you to call me crazy
for disagreeing with you, evenif I bring facts to the table?
What happens is you have abigger platform, my platform is
small, so I must be crazy.
Yeah, you know, you can't goagainst the system.
You can go against the system,you lose.

(01:23:31):
They shut down the panthers.
The panthers was feeding thekids in the hood.
They actually had the firstlunch program for the kids in
the hood to actually eat and dothings like that, the
after-school programs, you know,but they were teaching
themselves about themselves andthat was a problem for the
government, because they don'twant to teach community, they
want to teach, you know,division.
Because if I can keep you guysfighting against each other,
yeah, you got the.
You got the brand new J's.
Right, you got the exclusiveJ's, though.
So now, since you got theexclusive J's, instead of you

(01:23:54):
putting me on, I don't like you,yeah.

Petra (01:23:58):
I'm gonna hold that secret.
I can't even let you know whereI got them exactly.

Styles (01:24:02):
You know that whole.
Thing and then put it to youlike this let let's get back to
the music thing.
I know y'all like that thing,right, I do too.
Let's get back to the musicthing.
I can't say getting chips likea Hebrew, but I could say nigga,
nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga,nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga,
nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, killyour mother, nigga, nigga,
nigga, kill your mother, nigga,nigga, suck my nigga, nigga.

(01:24:23):
I could say all of that.
If I say one derogatory thingabout a Jewish person, a white
person, you understand Eminem's,the only person probably could
get away with it actually we canget away with it too.
We can do it too.
There are some limitations, butwhen you think about it like
that, remember the system isdesigned for that.

(01:24:44):
Because they feel like, as longas they can keep us in that
state of mind I don't know howwe got here in this conversation
but as long as they can keep usthere in that state of mind,
they can go about doing theirbusiness of the devil.
I can do whatever the fuck Iwant to do.
Y'all niggas, just run around,kill each other.
Oh, by the way, spend yourcheck with me, right, and that

(01:25:05):
whole thing.

Petra (01:25:05):
the black dollar is one of the most powerful dollars out
there.
If we stop buying, because weare the biggest consumers, if we
stop buying, the world is goingto slow down, because we are
the ones who spend our money.
They hold their money.

Ryan (01:25:17):
Yeah, that's what's so upsetting, but you can't, you
can't, you can't not spend yourdollar.
Here's the thing.

Jay (01:25:27):
You can't not spend your dollar, you can't spend wisely.
But but do you remember what?
What did they ask?

Petra (01:25:30):
years back in the day.
What do you remember themasking for?
One day, yeah, don't spendmoney for one goddamn day.

Jay (01:25:32):
Yeah that means, okay, I don't have gas, fuck it, call
out.

Petra (01:25:37):
You call out for every goddamn thing else but if the
job know you calling out becauseyou on that no spend money
thing now, they'll fire you.
Yeah, that's just like we had ateacher work day and it was on
june 10th.
I was like you, serious, thisis the first time y'all ever
gave us the holiday.
Then y'all made it a teacherwork day.
I won't be here, you won't getpaid, okay so fucking crazy it's

(01:25:59):
okay, yeah, um so crazy youknow, and like you say, we had
the conversation of not reallyfeeling the government passing
the holiday for june 10enthbecause now it's commercialized
and now y'all making money offof us when before, when it was
our thing, we were the only onesthat were doing it.
I'm not going to buy aJuneteenth shirt out of Target
or Walmart because if I weregoing to get one, I'm going to

(01:26:21):
get it from a local black vendoror something like that Go get
it from a guy using iron in apress store.
Exactly, Do it myself Like I'mnot going to give you the money
for this holiday that y'alldidn't even really want to
acknowledge, and it's abouty'all not even telling us we
free for real and like, why arewe doing that?
No, so you have to be consciousof certain things and even if

(01:26:42):
you can't change the world, itstarts with you.

Styles (01:26:44):
Amen, make one little step.
I love it, amen she I like her.

Yeah, I've been here the whole time.

Petra (01:26:56):
Literally from the first episode.

Styles (01:26:59):
So this is what we're going to do.
Let's switch gears a little bit.
You know, we gave them.
We gave the people heart andsoul and, I think, a little bit
more insight on a personal levelas to what we feel about.
You know how we feel about thisworld that we live in right now
.
Let's talk about some other shit, though.

(01:27:20):
This online buying shit thing.
Right, because I bought shitonline for this trip
specifically.
Right, I'm trying to avoid thescams.
You know, it's just difficult.
Like, for instance, I wasdiscussing with shadra.
I was like yo, abort x, y and z, blah, blah, blah.
And there's an app called shopyou guys familiar.
You guys familiar too,everybody's familiar and you

(01:27:44):
know it pops in there, tells youall right, cool, this is your
order number and then, when yourorder is updated to, you know,
shift or whatever, yeah, it'llpop in there too.
So I ordered some hats, youknow, and I'm not gonna put them
on blast yet.
I will, I promise you I will.
This is what I'm here for, butI just need some resolution.
So I ordered these hats, likethree weeks ago.

(01:28:06):
Okay, I paid for shipping, likefast shipping, don't you hate
it?
Yeah, I paid for the fastshipping Now.
For me, fast shipping threeweeks ago was even if they get
here two days before my trip itwas money well spent, so I'm
good with that.

(01:28:27):
I hit the panic button lastweek, though Right Hit the panic
button, it still says yeah, youplaced an order.
That's all it said.

Petra (01:28:34):
It hasn't moved yet.

Styles (01:28:35):
Never updated.
So I sent them an email becausethe shop allows you to do that.
I ain't getting nothing fromthem.
I sent them another email likethree days later.
I ain't getting nothing fromthem.
Today I'm here today.
I got here yesterday today Ijumped in the DM like yo, this

(01:28:55):
is giving me scammy vibes.
What are you doing for real?
Like you ignore sometimes thewrong people.
You shouldn't ignore the wrongpeople because you can go viral
for all the wrong reasons.
You know, and I'm petty,relentless, which is a bad
combination.
You understand what I'm saying,like petty and relentless.
Oh my god, nigga, I'm having agood time and I'm not gonna stop

(01:29:18):
.
This shit is like, it's crazy,like I don't give a fuck.
You can have a pristine record.
You can have delivered 99 outof 100.
Right, and I'm the 100.

Petra (01:29:32):
I was about to say but if you the 100.

Styles (01:29:33):
I'm the 100.
Don't play with me.
So what I was thinking, and Idon't want to be long-winded
because I want y'all guys tojump in, you know, mr Smoker,
and Glide up on the mic pause,yo, mic, pause.
Yo.
I love it he be sitting up infull speed and be like I'm just
like how the fuck do you do that?
You don't have to teach me that, but, um, like the Commodores,

(01:29:58):
I don't sing back up.
No wonder he says Sam CookeTemptation.

Ryan (01:30:05):
Yeah exactly.

Styles (01:30:06):
But, um, what I was thinking was, was there needs to
be like a central hub, right?
So sort of kind of like, um, azaggits for that, right?
So you have to be vetted, likean app whereby you're actually
vetted?
I'm not even going to answerthat.

(01:30:28):
Yeah, but not yet.
So there has to be an app thatwe can go to where all of these
things are housed, sort of likehow Apple does what they do with
their apps.
You just can't have an app onApple it goes through a process
and if you get too many strikesyou're out of here.

(01:30:49):
You know same shit with thisright, this way these scammers
would like, not even scammers,like just bad business.
I don't want to say they'rescamming me yet.
I will just not yet.
I just need you know.
So give you another week, thenyou're a scammer, because they
took a pretty good like.
I spent $130.

Petra (01:31:07):
For that expedited shipping, though you should want
your money back for that.
Hell yeah, I want my money backperiod.

Styles (01:31:12):
I don't even have the merchandise, yeah.
But even if you get themerchandise.

Petra (01:31:15):
You should get your expedited shipping money back.
But who brung it a snail?
Yeah, exactly yeah.
So no, I want my expeditedshipping money back.
Thinking that you walk fromCanada?
Exactly that's the only wayit's making sense.
That's your fast delivery.

Ryan (01:31:29):
So, yeah, that's crazy, yeah, but I really think, like I
mean, it's like there should besome more regulations.
But I feel like you know not totry to sound like overly
sensationalized or something,but the Internet is a scary
place.
I mean you could, you know,like of course the dark web is a
completely different thing, butlike you can go to like a site

(01:31:50):
like you're talking about andget screwed over, you know, or
you pay for expedited shipping.
It doesn't happen, Things ofthat nature.
Hopefully you get some type ofrefund or something like that,
but it it's just a scary placebecause so many people or
there's just so many outletsthat could, you know, screw you
up.
I forget what and what was it.

(01:32:11):
I think it's um.
Is it amazon?
It's somewhere.
Yeah, you know, amazon isanother example.
Right, like you know, you gotto be careful of what you order
on amazon now, because it's likeit could be some shady ass
third party business yeah andlike yeah, yeah, even though,
yeah, third-party business, eventhough Amazon is solid, but
they're not going to takeresponsibility for these

(01:32:32):
third-party shady companies.
It looks one way on the website,but you get it when you order
through Amazon, and then itlooks like something from.

Styles (01:32:43):
Tubi or something like that it's from Tubii, I mean
from timu I just went throughthat.

Jay (01:32:56):
I ordered something and it was actually a fragrance, and
what they said wasnon-refundable.
No, not, not non-refundable.
Non-returnable due to a hazmatthing.
So how in the hell you?

Petra (01:33:09):
get it to me, what?
But I can't give it back?

Jay (01:33:11):
is it a to send it back as hazmat?
What are you talking about?
So, but you gotta use a littlebit of common sense and
reasonable deduction thereexactly and say I'm not gonna
fuck with this one you know whatI'm saying.
You have to be like nah, I'mnot going to do this because
this one is shady.

Ryan (01:33:30):
It's a wild, wild west we go to in that.

Petra (01:33:32):
Usually only the big brands you can.
You can get and don't have toworry about all of that other
stuff like the finish lines, theNikes, the big stores.
But the other ones, the otherones like if you don't see to me
I don't, if you don't even seeshop pay at the bottom I'm not.

Styles (01:33:49):
I'm not even fucking with you, because you're not
real, so that's crazy.

Petra (01:33:51):
That's why I'm saying that's crazy because they
usually you can email them.
I had a guy I bought a coat anduh, took the coat from forever.
And it was funny because it waslike a coat store in brooklyn.
So he literally called me onthe telephone, was like I don't
have the coat in that size.
I, I, I refund you.
No, we don't refund, we don'trefund, I give you another coat.
And I was like you know what?

(01:34:11):
that's fine because at least hereached out yeah yeah I emailed
him and he was like I don't, Idon't know, I use the email well
but he literally called me atleast to fix my order or
whatever, and like that was oneof the reasons why I'm like,
okay, if shop pay on it orsomewhere that I know that I can
get in contact with the people,that's fine.
I've had them call me back andbe like we don't got it in blue,
but you want an orange one.

(01:34:33):
Okay, I'll take the orange one,but you know what I'm saying,
but at least there's some kindof contact.
If they don't have nothing atthe bottom, I don't even fool
with them anymore, even PayPal,because?
Because PayPal will get youcaught up too.
Yeah, paypal will get youcaught up, exactly.
So it's just you have to becareful, you just have to be
careful.

Ryan (01:34:52):
I think, yeah, I think that's the front of it.

Petra (01:34:55):
Yeah.

Jay (01:34:56):
Yeah, you just can't trust it.
What's scary, like you said, isthe internet is a scary place.
What's?

Petra (01:35:06):
even more scary is.

Jay (01:35:07):
I'm seeing all these brick and mortars closing.
Yeah, Because we want to shoponline so much, right, and I
mean I like to try shit onbefore I buy it.
So I appreciate the mall, Iappreciate being able to run to
the mall like the evening of anevent and try some shit on, and
grab it and I'm good.
Yeah, and grab it and I'm good.

(01:35:27):
But, like when I tell you, I'velooked and I've seen recently
so many stores that I actuallylike to go into, yeah, that are
closing, like some of them areclosing all their stores, yeah,
a lot of them are closing likelike high numbers of stores.
So I think that the future ofthis thing is literally gonna be
, you know, online shopping onlyyeah, for sure it's scamming.

Styles (01:35:45):
Yeah, no, for sure, it's definitely, it's definitely
moving in that direction.
You know, online shopping onlyFor sure it's scamming.
Yeah, nah, for sure, it'sdefinitely moving in that
direction.
You know, they'll have avending machine for cell phones
at some point.

Ryan (01:35:53):
Right, that's right.

Styles (01:35:55):
Because it only makes sense at that point.
Right, think about all thepeople that had to transition
from a fucking horse andcarriage to a car.
Yeah, them niggas wasn't happy.
Right car.

Petra (01:36:05):
Yeah, them niggas wasn't happy.
Them niggas wasn't happy and,just like somebody don't update
their phone, somebody was likeI'm going to stick with my horse
and carriage.

Jay (01:36:10):
I'll just never move back here.
I put all this work in buildingcarriages.

Petra (01:36:14):
You can see them.
I need to move the car over.

Jay (01:36:18):
Okay, yeah, I didn't know someone else was coming.

Styles (01:36:21):
We keeping this in here too.
I I'm not editing this.
I didn't know someone wascoming out.

Hold on, I'm going to tell I'm going to let
everybody know, listen what youcall it.

Petra (01:36:35):
Hello how are you.
He don't really.
Let me just tell you Okay.

Maybe, we don't have to pause it.

Styles (01:36:49):
All right, cool.
So that's everybody's thoughtson that.
Yeah, all right, beautiful.
So I had to say Q.
Day night, sexy nights and goodfood All right, so I'm going to
let the smooth operator takeover on this one.
So yeah, you know, jay wasn'tOld Daddy Kane.
Yeah, old Daddy Kane.

Petra (01:37:11):
I can't let him be Big Daddy Kane.

Ryan (01:37:12):
Jay wasn't a pimp in his former life.

Styles (01:37:14):
I promise you, the shit that he says might be pimpish,
but he wasn't a pimp, he didn'tcome from a family of pimps.
Right, he was All right.
All right, cool, we.
No disrespect or degradation.
Degradation of women happened.
Um, these are just from thislife experience these are all

(01:37:35):
true stories so you know whatthe segment's about yeah, yeah,
to a degree all right tell mebefore we it's about, uh, date
ideas, date ideas.
Okay, yeah, this nigga paysattention, go ahead.

(01:37:56):
So yeah, jay's gonna give ussome some date ideas and we're
gonna pass it around the tableand give them a thumbs up,
thumbs down, like the romansused to do.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okayall right.

Jay (01:38:07):
So you know I feel like women tend to, like you know,
more intimacy, like not talkingsex.
You know I'm saying like justthings you know to, to discuss,
things to explore verbally andvocalizing, and then expect
closeness and men we like.
So it's only right that you dothings that encompass both of

(01:38:30):
those things, like maybe aescape room, right.

Styles (01:38:35):
I've done an escape room .

Jay (01:38:36):
Escape rooms are good, especially doing them with your
lady, because you get tocommunicate, you get to
collaborate and you experiencethe adventure and the excitement
.

You know where I'm going with this.

Styles (01:38:50):
You're like mama.
Are you a thinker?

Jay (01:38:52):
We're about to find out.

Styles (01:38:54):
All right, here's a fucking mousetrap.
Can you get out of thismotherfucker?

Jay (01:38:57):
Can you get out of this man ?
Yeah, and I'm timing youExactly.
Things like axe throwing.
Things like axe throwing, oh,axe throwing, yeah.
Things like I Axe throwing.
Things like axe throwing, oh,axe throwing, yeah.
Things like I'm not going Wait,stop, you're not familiar with
axe throwing.

Styles (01:39:10):
I'm not, no, no, no, you're good.
Okay, but I feel like you thinkthis is speed dating.
I need you to slow down,because we have stuff to say
about these.

Jay (01:39:17):
Oh, gotcha, gotcha Okay okay.

You know, I was just throwing a few of them out
there.

Styles (01:39:28):
I was going to throw a few of them out there.
God was a glass maker, jesusChrist.

I had to sit up.

Styles (01:39:37):
I know I got you, I'm just playing.
Yeah, the axe throwing.
I want to do axe throwing.

Ryan (01:39:46):
I heard that, by the way, you old as shit.

Styles (01:39:48):
Yeah, you heard my yeah, I heard that shit I think I was
like wow, echo, yeah, everybodywas kung fu big 40, you said
big for your big facts um shit Igot 10 years old me.
That's fucking alright.
How old are you?
50?

Petra (01:40:08):
I'll be 50 on oh, I thought you were saying you were
30 oh, because I'm yeah, I waslike you're 30.

Ryan (01:40:14):
I didn't think that.
I thought you were, so Ithought we was all about, I'm
about to jump out the window.
Somebody get the window for me.
Oh man yo oh my god nah ifStyles was 30?
We probably couldn't deal withhim when he was 30 if Styles was
30 my man like fought Thanos togo through some stressful shit

(01:40:40):
my man disappeared 30, that'swhat I was saying my man got
snapped away in Infinity War.
Yeah, exactly what?

Styles (01:40:50):
in the Benjamin Buttons is going on here.
Yeah, no, oh, the axe throwing.
I got lost.
Go ahead.
What's next?

Jay (01:40:59):
Okay, yeah, so you know something like that Trampoline
park.

Trampoline park.
You been doing trampoline park.

Petra (01:41:07):
Trampoline park we're doing trampoline park no, it's
not.

Ryan (01:41:11):
Have you ever done it?
There's an adult trampolinepark.
I took my niece and my daughterbefore.

Petra (01:41:17):
No, there's one for adults.
What's?

Ryan (01:41:18):
it called Jump Zone or some shit.

Petra (01:41:20):
I don't remember Sky Zone .

Styles (01:41:24):
Did one of his.
Just hit his knee crack.

Jay (01:41:27):
Yeah, he's not, he's not, he's not, don't worry about it.
I'm mobile, don't worry about it, sweetheart, but but you know,
I'm just saying so, but theseare, these are all things that
are adventurous.
Adventurous but they also, youknow, introduce opportunities
for closeness and great, youknow, introduce opportunities
for closeness and greatcommunication.

(01:41:47):
You know everybody's been doingthe paint and sip stuff.
You know these are good things.
I appreciate these things.
These are things that I wouldprefer to do other than like
dinner and a movie.
Dinner and a movie is cool, butthe thing is you don't usually
get to talk during a movie.
And it can get boring, if that'syour only idea, every time

(01:42:10):
because everybody been to dinnerin the movie you know, what I
mean.
So my thing is, I want to findsomething that maybe she hadn't
done.
It may be you know firing rangeor something.
You know what I mean, but, likeyou, just got to be creative
are these supposed to be firstday ideas?

Ryan (01:42:25):
we're we talking about date ideas in general?
Both I think.
Well, you know I'm biased, butI think two, two ideas.
I think like it's definitelynot a first date idea, but if
you're in a relationship for afew years, do a photo shoot, do
like a romantic photo shoot.
Y'all get to dress up, getdolled up.
Get black Ken black, barbiedolled up.

(01:42:47):
I like it.
You know.
You look at each.
And I'm not talking about thephoto shoot in the mall or some
shit like that, right, I'mtalking about one of these fly
professional freelance dudes,whatever, who like they stuff,
look like it could be in like amagazine.
Yeah, y'all get to look at eachother.
These romantic poses, thingslike that.
It's pretty dope.

(01:43:08):
I had the pleasure of doingsomething like that for like,
for like an engagement party ora wedding, stuff like that, and
you really see how excited notonly the girlfriend is but the
boyfriend is.
Just stuff like that.
I think that's dope.
I think it's dope too.

Styles (01:43:24):
First date, second date?
I don't know.
First date, second date?

Ryan (01:43:27):
I'm talking about a couple years in the game.
Oh okay, photos from the firstdate is wild, it's wild.

Petra (01:43:33):
I might not even want to see you after this, sir.
Now you got this portrait of me, I got a whole different behind
and I done threw yours in thegarbage.

Ryan (01:43:39):
We got to look face to face and this is the first date.
Nah, that's crazy.
First date photo shoot.
Nah, that's a little.
First date photo shoot.
Nah, gotta be in romanticpositions and shit.
We barely know each other'sname.
Yeah, ain't nothing.

Styles (01:43:56):
That's different.

Petra (01:44:00):
We ain't capturing it for life.
That's different.
Alright, just you recording thesex page.
But everybody ain't doing that,so it ain't a good first date
yeah, not a first, that's myopinion.

Ryan (01:44:18):
But I mean, but unless y'all ventures like that, maybe
you do that as a first date.
You let them know up front.
Hey, I'm about to take you tothe I'm gonna paint you nude
nice, that's a little different.
Nice, yeah, hey, I'm about totake you to the.
I'm going to paint you nude.
Nice Shit, I have to do itdifferent.
Nice, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you better go to theLovey W photo shoot for the
first date.

Styles (01:44:31):
What's up, I don't know if that's going to fly.
Yeah, Like nigga.
This is weird, Nah yeah.

Petra (01:44:36):
Six degrees of separation .

Ryan (01:44:37):
I ain't going, I don't know if you will, because, man,
I know women who want to talkabout marriage on the first date
I met them.

Jay (01:44:43):
Oh shit, yeah, I've been out with them, if you do the
photoshoot you definitely getmarried.

Styles (01:44:49):
I mean they're putting you on notice.
You said what they're puttingthem on notice.

Jay (01:44:54):
Nah, they're not putting them on notice.
What'd you do?
How did you leave?

Styles (01:44:59):
Wait, talk about marrying you on the first date.
Yeah, it's a little different.

Ryan (01:45:03):
Y'all think it's about marriage in general, like, look,
if we date, I want to getmarried.
If we have kids.

Jay (01:45:09):
What would you first date?
You want to talk about what wename in children.

Ryan (01:45:12):
Oh, no, no.

Jay (01:45:12):
Like yeah, that sounds like a weird flag to me.
I want to get to know what youlike what?

Ryan (01:45:16):
your interest, who you be with things that make you smile
Exactly.

Styles (01:45:27):
All of that, I got my moment.
Jeez the Hicks and Waltersgreat, I had to.
Sorry, nice little old, thoughI like it.
I like it, I try.
It wasn't Rich Homie Kwame, no,it was.

Ryan (01:45:38):
Rich Homie, it wasn't no Ludacris.

Styles (01:45:42):
I'm glad it wasn't Ludacris Unplug your mic.
Before you got there Was youabout to say something about
ludicrous.

Petra (01:45:48):
I'm about to take that shit out, edit that out.

Jay (01:45:50):
No ludicrous.

Petra (01:45:51):
That's still wild to me that's just one person.

Styles (01:45:54):
Yeah, that's just your views.
Yeah, you know I was coming toyou.

Petra (01:46:00):
Yeah, she's ready too, I'm girly, but I'm with Jay a
little bit on the adventure.
I want to do somethingsometimes that we're actually
active.
I don't want every day, likeyou say, to be dinner and a
movie or something like that.
Me myself, I love a goodconcert.
We can go to the concert andturn up at the concert like

(01:46:21):
we've been singing in thebathroom together forever.
Got me.

Styles (01:46:25):
First date.
First date, a concert?

Petra (01:46:25):
yes, because there's plenty of people around in the
bathroom together forever Got meFirst date.
First date a concert.
Yes, because there's plenty ofpeople around.
You ain't snatching me becauseI'll go stand by the next nigga
on the next album?
I'll do.
No, we ain't doing nothing.
Private first date Like weain't doing nothing exclusive,
where we together, by ourselves.
I don't trust a soul.

Ryan (01:46:42):
Bonus question who's your ideal performer To see on the
first?

Petra (01:46:46):
date.
Well, he's dead now, but itwould have been Prince.
But I like shows.
New Edition is like.
I've probably seen them Inevery form that they have been
in With the BBD, the what wasthe other one when they had
broke up and it was Head toState.
Give me New Edition in any form.

(01:47:08):
Any form, I don't care how manytimes I've seen them.
I'm going to have the best time.
You're going to see me.
Have fun.
You're going to know how I act.
Yeah, whatever they are, giveme them in any form.
And I'm going to have a goodtime.
I'm going to want you to have agood time.

Styles (01:47:27):
I'm going to want you to have a good time when they
split up.
She was like I'm going to seeJohnny Gill now over here.
I'm going to see him last, I'mgoing to see him last just like
he came in the group.

But I'm going to see him.

Petra (01:47:38):
I'm going to see him, but in any form that they come in,
I'm going to go.
Okay, and so I love to go toconcerts or any, even if you go
into a bar or something likethat and they have a live band
and stuff like that.
I love that kind of stuff.
Um, I'm greedy, so don't don'ttell me we ain't going to eat.
We about to be out for fivehours.

Jay (01:47:59):
So what if he wants to invite you over and cook like,
like some, some exotic Invite?

me where.

Jay (01:48:06):
She said, and that's why I asked that question You're
disappointing me right now.

You heard me, right.

Petra (01:48:13):
Because if she's, greedy.
Enough if she's greedy enoughyou know what?
That's what my greed is.

Styles (01:48:20):
As soon as you say we going there, I'm going to take
the keys to the bus.
He's not allowed to drive.

Petra (01:48:24):
I told you he drive me over every time.

Jay (01:48:26):
Here's the thing that is the reason I brought that up.
Oh, okay.

Go ahead.
Why it happened?

Jay (01:48:30):
Yeah, no, because she's greedy, you know it's flutter,
you can flip it.
What you talking about?

Ryan (01:48:34):
Jay.

Styles (01:48:40):
He says it on air all the time I I like food.

Ryan (01:48:43):
She ain't about to risk her life for it, and I hope not,
but you know like.

Petra (01:48:48):
No, you can't entice me.
With no food, I'm coming overto your house.

Styles (01:48:50):
No, no, no.
Can you imagine Peachy be like?
Oh man.

Ryan (01:48:53):
I don't know, but damn, that salmon is pretty.

Jay (01:48:57):
Did you say lamb chops?

Petra (01:49:00):
As much as I like food, you're not going to get me.

Ryan (01:49:02):
I'm going to drop my pen to my homegirl.
I'm going to drop a pen to myhomegirl, then I'm going to go.
Oh, definitely.

Petra (01:49:07):
She might come with me.
She's going to stay for about30, 35.

Ryan (01:49:10):
You know, you can flip it though.
Just do like a cooking classtogether.
I would do that.
Yeah, I would do something likethat but I'm not coming to your
place.

Styles (01:49:22):
First date for no food, I'm not.

Petra (01:49:26):
I'm not coming to nobody's place.
First date for no food Listen.

Jay (01:49:30):
I hear you and I'm very proud of you.
I'm glad to hear you say that.

Petra (01:49:35):
I'm glad to hear you say that he's still about.
You hear the engine.

Jay (01:49:36):
Go ahead.

Styles (01:49:37):
Yeah, it's an idol right now.

Jay (01:49:39):
I'm happy to hear you say that and hopefully you know
there are other women out therelistening who would take heed,
because I know some women whohave fallen for that plate.

Petra (01:49:52):
No, I'm not going to fall .

Jay (01:49:54):
Oh, you're having a barbecue.
I'm coming over there.
You coming to a barbecue overat my house with a group of
strangers.
Now how many, come on be realhow many?
Times have you invited a womanto a barbecue and she came and
you know everybody and she don'tknow nobody.

Ryan (01:50:12):
That's happened a lot, not me.
You invite somebody to abarbecue and she don't know
anybody.

Jay (01:50:17):
She just met you.
You're going to a barbecuewhere it's your friends and
family, I feel like that's aninsecure episode or somewhere.
But, do you know how many timesI've done that?
And they came.

Petra (01:50:27):
I'm not coming.

Jay (01:50:28):
I yeah, I'm not coming.
I mean, I'm not a serial killer, so they were okay.
But how do I know you're not aserial killer?
I'm just saying they made itout and they shouldn't have came
because you was a serial ho, soif they would have done their
work they would have known notto go either.
She hijacked the bus.

Styles (01:50:41):
She definitely hijacked the.
I did, I had to.
This is fighting back Partseven.

Petra (01:50:46):
He's been running me over all night.

Jay (01:50:48):
I keep bringing up my pants .
I got to fuck up.

Ryan (01:50:50):
That's what I'm saying.

Petra (01:50:51):
Bring up my pants you, I'm just saying they probably
should have done their workanyway, because now you, the
face in the crowd that theymatching to, that's the one, nah
.

Jay (01:51:00):
But I'm just saying so yeah .

Styles (01:51:05):
Yeah, like the invite for food is All right, we're
going to save him from hisfantasy Dessert.

I hope you guys enjoyed your meal.
Can I get you something off ofour dessert menu?

Styles (01:51:15):
All right, so this is the part where we say goodbye.
Not like that, jay.
No, not like that, no, there'sa format to this.
Okay, I was waiting, so you getto tell the people where they
can find you.
First of all, how'd you findthe episode?
Was it everything you thoughtit was going to be?
Yeah, absolutely Nigga you'rethinking too long.
No, no, don't be disrespectful.

(01:51:35):
I got to edit out the pause.

Jay (01:51:37):
I try to think before I speak.
I try to.
I don't always succeed.
I got you, but yeah, no, Idefinitely enjoyed, definitely
enjoyed myself.
It was everything I thought itwould be, maybe even a little
more.
It was fun, it was funny, itwas interactive, it was exciting
.

Styles (01:51:56):
So yeah, I'm happy to be a part of it.
I like that.

Jay (01:51:57):
Yeah, absolutely.

Petra (01:52:00):
I love it.
I appreciate the invite orwhatever.
However, this came together.

Styles (01:52:06):
Oh, I want to tell you how it came together.
Thank you, sit back, jesus.

Petra (01:52:10):
He pouring his wine, yeah he did, pouring the brown.

Styles (01:52:14):
Oh, my God.

Ryan (01:52:15):
This dude, that man turned wine into brown.

Styles (01:52:19):
Tell me how it came about, peter.
So I was like yo, jay, check itout, what up?
Because you know, jay and Ihave known each other for a long
time.
He's like yo, jay, what up?
We coming to Charlotte, right,because we had to pivot.
We supposed to be in Cali lastmonth, but Cali was expensive,
you know, shout out to Dolomite.
So he was like, all right, cool, so you know, y'all going to

(01:52:40):
come through, blah, blah, blah.
He's like, yeah, we're going todo that whole thing.
So I was like what was it lastweek?
I was like yo, your co-host iscoming right, because you're
like the phantom co-host.
I am, you are, and I ain't madat it.

Petra (01:52:56):
He do the most on there.
He be online all the time.
At one point not now, I willsay not now, but at one point he
was on there.
He was on every live and allthat stuff.
He was like come on, no, I'msleeping nigga, I'm not getting
on all these lives.

Styles (01:53:11):
And then the beefs that be happening, but the beefs are
funny to us.

The beefs are funny.
You ever had beef before?
No, no.

Petra (01:53:19):
He never had beef.

Jay (01:53:20):
No, he had beef with a girl .
No, stop it wasn't beef.

Styles (01:53:23):
That wasn't beef.
Who, yeah, the DJ?
I don't know nothing about that.
You missed the good one, andI'm going to leave it like that,
but they had it'd be too muchgoing on.

Petra (01:53:33):
No, it really does.

Styles (01:53:35):
It really does at some points, because you got to
understand.
We get on these lives, niggas.
Be bored.
I ain't going to hold you.
We be bored, yeah, and yougotta have.
You don't have to havesomething.
I've been on, I've jumped onlives and niggas and start alive
and this person is literallyjust doing shit.

Petra (01:53:55):
Yeah, not talking to nothing, just doing shit, and I
don't like that.
And another reason with thelive suit, when y'all just be
starting them out of nowheresome of them it's a pet peeve to
me for you to be on the live inyour bonnet with no bra on in
the kitchen like doing stuff orwhatever, and I'm just like they
call that OnlyFans.

Styles (01:54:12):
They just not getting paid for it.

I mean.
It ain't a thirst trap, though,If y'all be thirsty for that.

Jay (01:54:19):
a lot of times it don't be thirsty Because they be on there
.

Petra (01:54:25):
Them, the ones who drink the piss water and go to the
first date dinner I'll be like Ican't just like he'd be like
just jump on, no barbecue chick.
Yeah, I can't just jump onthere looking crazy or whatever
with my bonnet on and I justdon't got the camera ready a
little yeah, I don't do that, soa lot of times I'm like, if I'm

(01:54:45):
already done, settled in, Iain't about to get on there.
I can't find a baseball cap andsome earrings.
You know what's interesting?
All of that is me.

Styles (01:54:53):
I'm not getting on there .
Nah, you know what'sinteresting about the bonnet
thing is like I won't say that Ifeel disrespected, so no bonnet
, but I am curious.

Petra (01:55:09):
Who do you not wear the bonnet for?
Exactly?
When is it ever?

Styles (01:55:11):
a problem to have the bonnet on right?
When is the wig in the drycleaners and when you get it out
?
I'm trying to figure that wholesituation out.

Jay (01:55:16):
That's just me though what's the male equivalent to
the bonnet.

Petra (01:55:20):
What is it?
A hat, no, and it's not do-rags, because I feel like do-wags be
kind of, they coordinate yourdo-wags a lot of times, maybe
like a baggy white beater,probably Baggy beater.
If you on there in a baggy, ifyou outside in a baggy beater,
you got the Joe Button beaterand they got the one on the top.
Bro, I don't know.

Styles (01:55:40):
These dudes is built different nowadays.
Pause, I don't bro, if Ifucking pluck you, you'll die,
and they got the baggy beat on.
That's why they shootingeverything.
This is fucking.
They shooting everything.
I want to fight Right.
The fight's over.
Oh, okay, so listen, I got offtrack, close it up.

(01:56:01):
Yeah, what you got coming upwhere they can find you?
You know that whole thing.
No, you, jay, when you're doingthe most you already know.

Petra (01:56:10):
Yeah, you do that.
You do that part, all right solisten.

Jay (01:56:14):
You can catch us on grind city tv, uh no, it's not, it's
just, it's on demand.

It's okay, it's always there.

Jay (01:56:26):
We live there.
Every week there's a newepisode.
But yeah, you can catch us onall streaming platforms.
We have a weekly podcast wherewe discuss relationship topics
and everything like thatInstagram at the Cognac Room
Podcast, facebook at the CognacRoom Podcast, tiktok at the

(01:56:47):
Cognac Room, or no, it's jaychristian run, I think, over
there, jesus christ, yeah, Imean not you, but he was
actually talking about jesuschrist that time exclamation out
here um, sure, sure.

Styles (01:57:10):
So your reaction videos, right, yeah, I know you right
right.
So it's a little different.
Not that I'm reading yourthoughts, because I'm not right,
that'd be an invasion ofprivacy a little bit, uh
possible.
So my thing is when you, whenyou do your reaction videos at
any point in the talk, yes, thisnigga be giving like eyebrows.

Jay (01:57:34):
No, so that's something.
That's this.
You know, I kind of do thingsin phases, so I went through the
phase of just that, but I wastalking in the caption.

I'm not reading the caption.
It's a video.
Why am I reading the caption?

Jay (01:57:47):
I don't want to read the thoughts but yeah, yeah, I will
be.

Styles (01:57:50):
Literally see.
I see what you did there.
You can read my thoughts in thecaptions.

Petra (01:57:56):
All right.
But they might think you taking.
Who is it, timo style?

Jay (01:58:01):
Nah, Timo talks.

Petra (01:58:02):
He talks.

Jay (01:58:03):
That's what I'm saying yeah , and so that's the thing too,
like you know I don't want to beborrowing.

Styles (01:58:12):
You know what I'm saying or seem like I'm?
Borrowing from anybody else'sstuff, but this is the thing you
can always cite it in thefootnotes that before you did it
and I know that we're friends1,700 other people did it and
that's where you got it from.
So it's not a it's all aboutmaking your own.

Jay (01:58:33):
Exactly, exactly, yeah, absolutely, exactly, absolutely.
But.
But I'm working on some stuff.
I actually like pulled backfrom doing a lot of that stuff
for a season to work onsomething else.

Styles (01:58:37):
So I've been preparing something else, uh, just like
revamping how I do it.
So yeah, it'll be cool, allright cool all right, I just had
some questions.

Petra (01:58:45):
You had some questions and possibly some commentary and
or opinions.
I'm here for all of them.
He keeps growing.
He's a grower.

Styles (01:58:58):
She joined in.
Ladies and gentlemen, oh, we'reone in the same as much as we
are Not alike.

Petra (01:59:05):
You run me over with the bus, I run him over with the bus
, then we drive the bus together.

Styles (01:59:09):
Yeah, I see I'm thinking of that in the end we a team.
You know three in the morningwith no lights on the road, I
got you.
First I want to say thank you.
Because, again, like I said, Ididn't have to press or push for
you to come to, becauseobviously jay wanted you to be a
part of it as well, but it wasdefinitely, you know, the
forefront of my mind that I needto have both of you, you know,

(01:59:32):
and not just one of you.
Um, thank you.
Um.
Also thank you again for beingthe person that you are online.
You know you look mean as fuckonline really.
Yeah, you still, yeah, stilllook mean as fuck online Really.
Yeah, you still look mean asfuck.
He says that too.
He says I look mean at times.
Yeah, you definitely look likesecurity.

Petra (01:59:53):
Oh damn, I'm a little security.
That's why I told you I got tokeep him in line, because he'll
say some shit and I'll have himsend some shit.

Styles (02:00:02):
Nah, nah, which is cool.
You know which is cool, andthen I got four brothers.

Petra (02:00:07):
I grew up in a house with four boys, so it is.
You know, I don't really have apretty face.

Styles (02:00:11):
I don't know how to no you have a pretty face, I mean I
don't know how to you know bepretty, pretty stern face.

Petra (02:00:16):
I just close my mouth and whatever my face look like,
whatever you get, you getUnapproachable, nah nigga it's
like nah, yeah, possibly that's,that's, that's.
He might be right, though I'mnot even gonna totally deny it
see, that's the thing alrightcool.
It's nice to have somebody elseon the panel that's, you know,

(02:00:39):
unapproachable cause, as am I umthis guy right here, but you
know, let me say this before yougo that's why I like you on the
episodes or whatever and stuffthat I watch and the things, and
I will join in on something.
You're one of the people that Iwill join in with because I
like how you talk and how youmove and stuff like that when
you be on air like I like that,I don't what's up say it to the

(02:00:59):
camera, my bad, say it to themotherfucking camera.
So he's one of the ones that.
I like how they speak and whatthey say when they're on air.
So I will jump on something ifhe's on there.
If Jay says, okay, jump on this, and I go over there, and it's
like you know a bunch of randomsI said a bunch of randoms or
people I don't fool.
He know I ain't getting onthere.
I might get in the comments andyou knowters that I feel like I

(02:01:27):
fuck with them and I relate tothem and so I'll get on there
and he's one of the ones.

Styles (02:01:34):
Yo, I like just fell in deep.
Like you know, I appreciatethat, I really know Seriously, I
really appreciate that I don't.
I feel like a lot of peopledon't say shit like that enough,
and not just about me, just ingeneral, because I love when
people jump in and out DMs andbe like yo, I watch the show, I

(02:01:54):
like this, I fucks with y'allheavy, that little, that shit.
We get up and do 10 shows afterthat.
Yeah, it is encouraging, weliterally do 10 shows after that
, brother Ryan.

Ryan (02:02:06):
Taylor photos DMV on Instagram.
I should do 10 shows after that.
Oh, hey, brother, ryan TaylorMedia's photo, taylor Photos DMV
on Instagram and Ryan reviewseverything on YouTube.
Simple as that.

Styles (02:02:15):
I like that so simple.
All right, as I try to find,we're going to cut this part out
, but as I try to find thebutton to end this, motherfucker
, you know where to find me,because if you found me, you
already know where to find me,because I'm here.
So, yeah, we ain't doing all ofthat.
Yeah, guess what?
Oh, found it.
It's that time again, and sincewe really don't know how to say

(02:02:37):
goodbye, I'm not going to saygoodbye, but listen what I will
ask.
I'm not even asking.
If you liked it, please don'tforget to like, comment,
subscribe and shit.
Um, and that's homework also.

Jay (02:02:54):
There is no.
Also, we'll catch you next week.
We'll save a seat at the tablefor you.

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