Unveiling Identity: Exploring Pride, Relationships, and Personal Growth W/ Danielle

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How does that pride shape our identity? Join us as we dive into this intriguing topic, with our special guest, Danielle formerly of the Chocolate Wasted podcast. We share hilarious anecdotes about growing up in the Big Apple, (Danielle is from Illinois) reminisce on our family ties, and explore how we supported each other during the COVID lockdown.

We also touch on topics such as dating, intuition, and protecting your peace. With Danielle's insight, we discuss her signature drink called 'Put the Lime in the Coconut,' our favorite indulgences, and the do's and don'ts of FaceTime etiquette. Plus, we delve into love and its portrayal in movies like Black Movies, Queen Slim, and Poetic Justice, while contemplating the power of energy and the importance of taking risks.

Lastly, our conversation navigates the complexities of the social media phenomenon 'Thirst Trap' and its impact on today's dating scene. We emphasize the significance of being honest about our relationship needs and the dangers of getting caught up in the superficial aspects of attraction. Don't miss out on this engaging and thought-provoking episode with Danielle.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Good afternoon, good evening, good morning, good
something, good day.
How about that?
Good day?
I have no idea when you'relistening to this.
Anyway, this is your boy,Stiles.
Listen, i gotta have a questionright, and this is where we're
going to start off at.
I really just let that shitride out.

(00:57):
Anyway, listen, if you approacha New Yorker right, this is my
question, and I guess this isthe scenario in which I'm
pulling this question from Ifyou approach a New Yorker, that
New Yorker happens to be out oftown, a real New Yorker, not a
transplant, all right, notsomebody that was born somewhere
else and then went to New Yorkor whatever, and none of that.

(01:19):
Respectfully, i'm talking aboutsomebody born in bread, in the
city, all right, born in thefive boroughs, not New York
upstate or anything like that.
Respect to them.
Shout outs to you, know,schenectady and all of that, but
I'm talking about the city.
They will quickly give you theborough before they give you

(01:39):
anything else.
Like, if you approach me, i'mout of town, you from New York,
instinctively I'm just going tosay Brooklyn, i'm never going to
say New York.
That's some crazy shit, youknow, and it might be because
this shit is coursing throughour veins.
You know all of that, like thatshit is like I don't know.

(02:06):
It's literally coursing throughour veins.
And then, of course, the egowas retarded.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
So the ego was like I'm him, i'm not them.
I'm him Jones, i'm him Duncan.
I will beat a nigga ass andstomp him in my himber lens.
I've been him, i'm always behim, i'm gonna stay him, i'm not
them.
You understand me.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
And with that saying, i need to grow the fuck up.
Just not today, though.
Let's get to the show.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
I used to be in love with this bitch.
They me and J The fuck with her.
no more.
now I fuck with Tango Ray.
Tango Ray, hey yo.
what Then?
do we need two shots?
It's a combo All right.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
so this one I'm excited for.
I'm super excited for this oneright Because I have a family to
the show, not a friend to theshow.
family to the show, like when Isay that anybody that you've
made friends with when you werelocked behind doors because the
government said you had to lockyour doors and hello fresh was
your best friend And that's whatit is.

(03:14):
I have Danielle from thechocolate wasted podcast, hey.
Danielle.
Say hello to the people in there, hey y'all.
Oh, we definitely are, theydefinitely are.
I'm gonna need a lot of theyoungs for these glasses, these
glasses that pop in, yeah.
I like, i like where see nowwhich is that's EES.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Yeah, that's yeah, we out here, we see and out here.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
That's a fact, though .
See in the style though.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yeah, for sure.
I'm excited to be here, forsure.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Excited to have you You know we go back.
We do, we do.
Can I tell a short story?

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
I make this three sentences or less.
During COVID comma, stillcontinuing the sentence,
danielle was selling shirts.
It was like some melanin popand whatever.
It was black, but it had thegold, what you call it.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah, gold vinyl.
Yeah, for sure, right, i'm inhere.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
I ain't doing nothing .
I ordered the shirt because, ofcourse, i support everybody who
I fucks with, so I ordered ashirt.
Shirt come up sitting on thefloor.
I just got matter of fact thistime right here.
I just got this and I got thebrunch hour joint right and took
a picture.
I think I'm in GQ with someshit looking crazy because I
couldn't get to the barber.
Fuck it, it is what it is,right, you know.

(04:41):
But I greatly appreciate thatshirt.
Still have that shirt.
But you know, after COVID, toobig for the shirt.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Thank God I'm black.
That was definitely merch.
It was fire, yeah, i appreciatethat I got to find mine.
Now you're going to make mewant to wear mine You got to.
I don't know where it's at.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
It's only right.
Well, this is what I'm doing.
As far as the mixed drinks areconcerned, I really don't have
that this week, but this is whatI do.
Have I made a run of DunkinDonuts?
Did you Right?
I did.
My wife calls it mud water.
She can't stand the shit shedoes.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
Yes, I mean.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
I need to elevate my game.
I get it.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
It's alright, in due time.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
I need a pay bump to go to fucking Starbucks, man.
But look what I did, though.
Oh okay, i'm going to go to.
Starbucks.
Yeah, so I put the screwballpeanut butter whiskey in it In
here, yeah, oh God.
You, you, you finessing, Yeah,kind of sort of Kind of sort of
This is like I get away withthis shit at work.
I don't drink at work, by theway, you just said you, but if I

(05:52):
were to drink at work, i wouldget away with it.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
Okay, cool, we on a recorded line.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
That is the one.
Nothing to do with me.
I am useless.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Man, what are you drinking?
You drinking something, so Imean, i keep, i keep watering
here all day, but once I wrap up, because I don't like drinking
on an empty stomach and I got toeat dinner before I drink, like
we getting old Copy that Copythat Cool, gracefully, but still
the drink that I've beenhitting on I made it up.

(06:27):
Well, a little bit, i bit offof something that I had at a
restaurant and then I finessedit, so I made this up.
I call it put the lime in thecoconut, right, right, it's
tequila reposito, lime juice andcream of coconut shaking over

(06:49):
ice.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
So it's like a pina colada hybrid Lime with the
joint.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
I got it.
Yeah, wow, it goes crazyBecause you know, most cases
pina coladas, they use rum,right, tequila, and I don't
measure none of this shit, soit's hard for me to tell you.
Hey, yeah, this is how you doit, i just be pouring shit Right
, somebody mama back theremaking drinks.
I be pouring shit, i just bepouring shit, but it's really

(07:18):
one of those where you need two,two macks.
Put the lime in the coconut toget you right.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
That's crazy.
You should have told me thatbefore, because I definitely
would have tried my hand at it.
As a matter of fact, that shitjust might pop up.
Yeah, you credit though.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Yeah, but this should definitely pop up on one of
these episodes.
Psycho sources, that's all Iask.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Oh, nah, nah, nah.
You know what it is, what it is.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
I'm going to have to picture it up again, you don't
plagiarize over here.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Absolutely not, absolutely not, absolutely not
All right.
So this is what we're going todo I'm going to hit you with
quick hitters.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Let's get it Because the audience wants to know who
you are.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, they want you to leave for the people that are
driving in the car.
They're not going to get to seethe lip and the glasses and all
the other.
You know, you know Theaesthetic.
That's all right, though Iwouldn't tell them to close
their eyes, but I want them tocrash.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah, we don't need them.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
So this is what we're going to do.
I'm just going to go through alist of things, run it Right,
and then they're going todevelop their own guest profile
in their heads Right.
So let's start with this Text.
call or FaceTime.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
It's dependent on the situation.
Can I break that down?
Sure.
All right.
There are certain people thatI'd rather text.
There are certain people thatI'm okay with calling.
There's a select few peoplethat can FaceTime me.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Okay, so what's situational?
Respectfully, i feel like Imade a post the other day kind
of talking about like people whokind of FaceTime without notice
, you know like the people whowill call without you know like

(09:03):
we texting that don't mean callme, or we on the phone that
don't mean FaceTime.
And especially like I feel likesomebody who FaceTimes you that
don't really have the clearanceto do that kind of a thing.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Right.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
That's kind of like you.
Just that's like forced entry,i feel like, because that's very
personal.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
I'm going to take a time.
I've heard that and I'm goingto politely disagree because
it's the thing, right.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
You breaking into my home and I'm going to alert the
authorities.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
You are not Stop.
You're doing too much.
Now Listen, i'm not theauthorities.
This is the thing.
I'm a former enjoy user rightSo I would never understand what
these psycho Apple people wouldbe talking about.
as far as like FaceTime, likeoh, facetime me, i'm like yo
y'all make it sound like ifsomebody FaceTime you, it
automatically opens up the phoneand you can see their face.

(09:52):
What it is not like.
duo duo used to do that.
You see, call it, knock, knockright, but which all it doesn't
do that.
So if that, person FaceTime.
You come on so the phone callbill collectors are intrusive,
all of that I can't stop themfrom calling because I ain't
asked for this which is fine.
So just you can politelydecline or aggressively decline

(10:13):
or whatever, because they can'tsee it.
All they see is the client.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
If I could do the like the old flip phone clack.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
That's what I'm the odd 90s right.
That's crazy.
I used to love those.
Just for that.
Um, all right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
So, it's selective, it's selective.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
No, no, no, I get that part.
The part that I don'tunderstand is like why is this?
you know a visceral reaction toa FaceTime call.
Like I think what happens iswhen you decline it, the person
on the other end feels worsethan you feel.
When you decline it, you getwhat I'm saying, like I've been
declined before and it's kind oflike oh, i didn't know, all

(10:54):
could have been avoided had youjust got the okay go Like that's
you.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
You don't.
You don't match the gas at ared light.
You wait till it turned green.
Get the green light FaceTime.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
All right, come here with your analogies, making it
make sense.
Yeah, you right, though.
That's a fact, though.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
That's all.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
That's a fact.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
That's all I'm saying , i just said that's a fact.
I just said, literallyunexpected FaceTimes are so
intrusive.
There's a sprinkle of people Ieven talked to on the phone.
They're permitted, you know,hey, facetime me, you know, if
I'm free and free if I'm not,i'm not, i'll hit you back.
But the random FaceTimes begiven breaking and entering
energy, like, and I'd be readyto alert the authorities.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
There's a lot of people who agreed.
For those who are listening andyour friends with Danielle, you
better get that permission slipsign.
Please Just don't go hittingthat button.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
There's an expiration date on them slips too.
Oh my God.
I'm just telling them, justtalking shit.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
You're doing a lot right now.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
You got to pay for registration too, oh, man, You
know you got to pay your dues.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
I hear you Boom Shoot , your shot of chill in the cut.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
I'm going to shoot that jumper You want to shoot
your jumper.
Hell yeah, what does that looklike?

Speaker 1 (12:12):
I'm going to put you all the way on the spot.
What does that look like?

Speaker 4 (12:15):
I mean, if I like something, i say something.
Oh Okay, i've kind of alwayslike I have not always been like
that I feel like maybe as Icame to more confidence in
myself, like Sometimes I meaneven the Bible says you have not
because you ass not.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
So What's today?
It's not Sunday.
It's still pulling scriptureout.
I hate you.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
I'm just saying, i'm not, look.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
But seriously, in a lot of cases people pull that
whole shy roll and a lot of thetimes, like you never understand
.
sometimes people kind of feelthe same way And they might be
shy.
so both of y'all shy and I saynothing, missed opportunity.
So I'm gonna shoot the J.
What's the worst that couldhappen?

Speaker 1 (12:58):
No Bruised ego.
Bruised ego.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
That I mean.
Even that it kind of just.
You can't feel entitled to ayes all the time.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
I mean, I don't think that people feel entitled to a
yes.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
That's what I'm saying, so.
But at the same time, though,like You'd, be like oh damn, i
was hoping it was a yes.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
And then you already.
It is the thing When you showup to the situation.
If you're not reading it right.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
You gotta be able to read energy too, though Like you
can kind of peep and feel to adegree.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
I see we're gonna have an argument.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
You could peep it to a degree Like am I saying that
everybody who's interested inyou is giving these, just like
these super expressive notionslike yeah, come get it?
Like no, but there's no harm inshooting your shot, aside from
the bruised ego in which you'llget over.
But would you rather miss theshot because you didn't take it?

Speaker 1 (13:50):
I mean, i would feel the same walking away that I
felt prior to the shot, exceptfor the anxiety of sitting here
wondering not even wondering,but debating whether I should
take the shot or not.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
I mean, sometimes you just gotta shoot, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
And that's not to say all right, cool.
That's not to say that I'm nottaking the shot.
We're talking to Danielle rightnow.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Because I'm taking the shot every time.
Yeah, okay, i'm gonna shootBlack movies.
Black movies.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
I see, yeah, I'm gonna shoot.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Black movies.
We got the.
We got the photograph QueenSlim if Bill Street could talk,
which I saw in the movie theater, and a late edition poetic
justice.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
I'm kind of toss up between the photograph and also
poetic justice, because they'rekind of similar in their love
story.
You had a woman who was, youknow, more prestigious, and then
you have a man who's not really.
I don't want to say not on shit, but you know what I'm saying.
You have two.
Pah Koo was, you know, hewasn't the acclaimed like let me

(15:02):
see what this brother's talkingabout over here.
He was fine, Like he fine,right.
But at the end of the day, whatI love about both stories is
that they had to journey throughthe ups and downs in order to
kind of reconnect with eachother, like, yeah, you for me,
Understood, I'm a lover girl.
I love love.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Right.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
So Okay.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Go ahead.
I think on the love wavelengthwe're pretty much the same,
right?
Yeah, i'm the same way, but ifBill Street could talk, that
shit moved me.
It shook me to my core, as amatter of fact, because, like
just the whole inner city life,the trials and tribulations were
like I cried a lot.

(15:44):
They were yeah, they were real,yeah.
But it kind of reminded me ofwhen I grew up You get what I'm
saying Like I'm not a 70s baby,because I believe it was like
70s, early 80s type, like thatwhole timeframe which they did
what they did, but I wasn't 80sbaby.
Yeah.
You know, and shit was rough,but the love that emerged from

(16:06):
that, you would have seen it.
I'm saying love is differentwhen it when it comes from war,
as opposed to the person thatlives right above you on the
fourth floor.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Right That you just bump into in the elevator all
the time.
Yeah, you know, you're not theschool with but when you go
through it together, you want tosay and I'm saying, i'm talking
like different families,there's a certain level of
relatability and connectivity.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
Yeah Yeah, yeah Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Trauma bonding almost to a degree but still, you know
, yeah, i know, i know I'm toxic.
I'm not toxic, but you know.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
You know I feel like in love there's essentially a
certain level of whether it beyou trauma bonding on the other
side of the healing that you did.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Right.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
Because there's, i feel like there's two coin.
You know there's a.
There's two sides to that coin,you know.
Are we trauma bonding based onsolely the trauma or the fact
that we overcame it?

Speaker 1 (16:57):
That's a fact.
That's a fact.
So it yeah, it definitelydepends on the two individuals.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Right, cause you can grow up in a crack house and
never sell crack or use it, andstill going to be president of
the country.
A fact, right.
So that whole thing.
So that's, that's damn.
I never, i didn't get that shitin no thought Perspective.
You shake that perspective.
That's what I'm here for,absolutely All right.
So what's the?
what's the song for this seasonof your life?

(17:26):
Shut.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
Your song Immediately .
I'm telling you shut it down,drake, drake, what Shut?

Speaker 5 (17:33):
it down.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Shut it down.
It's a oldie, but I've beenreplaying that damn thing.
Replay on the replay Yes, i'mnot even I'm not familiar.
Him and the dream.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
I'm not a.
Okay, you know why How old youtalking, cause you know that
nigga was moist at one point.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
I mean, he was, this was, this was soft Drake.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Hmm, or he was moist, all right, this was soft Drake.
What Look at?

Speaker 4 (18:01):
this come out?
Um, shut it down.
This was when Drake barely had,like his beard was kind of
steadily coming in at this point.
This was young chap Drake.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
For sure, the album thank me later.
This came out in 2010,.
But this is why I really like.
I feel like he said like go, go, go get him girl, but it sounds
like he says go Coco, and Cocois my middle name, not my middle
name, but you know my nickname.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
So you just out here remixing songs again.
Go Coco, hit him girl I imagineYeah, that's my shit, i just
want to really like even justthe title of the song.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
Like you know, you've had your humble season and
you've had your season where youkind of you you went to mud
with it and you kind of developit and you coming into your own
and you, you know you might havehad your things that you've
endured, and now's the timewhere you, you've been humble
long enough.
So shut that shit down.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
I feel you Shut it down.
Coming in with you.
This fuck it.
I think I put too much umwhiskey in that coffee.
See Niggas starting to lean tothe left a little bit.
Oh snap, it was like Stads, younot in frame.
My fault.
I'm back.
I need to kickstand right now.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
Man, you're putting no elbow on for some.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yo I, but I am kind of.
I need your chair.
That's what I need.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
Well, you seen this chair.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, i did, oh, yeah .

Speaker 4 (19:26):
This chair is official.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
I was lightweight, jealous and shit, because I'm
sitting on a fucking bar stool,oh yeah.
And you got to be drunk to siton bar stools.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
See, i work from home , so you got to have like a good
, like a good ergonomic chairWorking from home For sure.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, let's get to the nitty gritty, though Let's
do it.
Who's sneakier, men or women?

Speaker 4 (19:48):
Again subjective Who do?

Speaker 1 (19:51):
you think is sneakier You know I'm a Libra Stiles.
Who do you?

Speaker 4 (19:59):
think.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Women, women, women.
Yeah, all right, it's so good,we can do it now Go ahead.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
All right.
If a woman's doing somethingand she gets caught, she don't
give a fuck.
Is that right, though?
In most cases, like don't giveRight.
In the instances that I knowRight, when a woman just don't
cover her tracks to a pointwhere you figure some shit out.

(20:25):
and you end up figuring it out,it's like all right, whatever,
i'm willing to eat it.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
But does that make her sneakier or just a fucking
savage?

Speaker 4 (20:35):
No, i'm just saying, in those instances, if she gets
caught, it's because she didn'tcare, right?
No, that's fine, I need you to,so watch that away.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
You only answered the question Now, you just giving
us.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
I'm just putting some shit out there.
You know I'm sorry, Apologizingin advance, But like the women
that I know who have kind of hadsome sneaky energy to them, he
never figured shit out, But ifshe didn't want him to, In the

(21:06):
instances where I felt a man wasdoing dirt women, we figured.
First of all my intuition.
You got to be careful when youfuck with spiritual women too,
Right?
I'm religious, yet I'mspiritual, cool Right.
So somebody gonna tell mesomething, in my dream, of
course.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
The instances is always on your side.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
So it's just like you really don't get, you don't men
, they you might have aproclivity, and I feel like
that's when a woman may eventurn kind of narcissistic, where
she kind of turn your thoughtsagainst you, like you really
going to accuse me of somethinglike that, knowing how I feel
about you.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
She gaslighting.
You know what?
This is probably the fourthtime in three days of
gaslighting And I've never usedthe word gaslighting so much in
my life.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
But that is super gaslight material.
Right, for sure, for sure.
But you can't really lie to awoman.
And even if she goes on with itlike I'm telling you, my
appetite will get fucked up Likesomething ain't right.
But then the body gonna tell me.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Well, I'll let you in on a little secret.
It's not just women, dudes aswell.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
As far as like intuition is concerned, and it
comes with the bond- That's whatI was just about to say.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
It really is bond related.
Yes, certain men don't allowthemselves to feel the way that
women do.
So that may be what prohibitsthem from, you know, having
those feelings or those gutfeelings where you like, your
ass shorty is definitely doingsomething.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
And the reason why they shut it down is because
they're pretty much, and then weabout to we shed light on both
sides, we getting thrown out theclub.
We got four in my own club.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Man.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
The reason why they pretty much.
It's not that they don't allowthemselves to.
They kind of numb it becausethey're just doing their own
thing anyway.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
Yeah, so it really don't matter.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Exactly So.
When the focus is all on her,you know the term clingy may
come up, but God damn, like am Isupposed to not focus on you?
Yeah, focus on you, you know,like that type of thing, but you
can't win for losing.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
So I feel like that's when it's important that you.
I just had this conversationwith somebody earlier.
They was like so, men, you justgotta feed them empty day sack,
compliment them, brush up theirego a little bit every once in
a while.
That's all you think theyrequire And I said at this point

(23:35):
, me dating, i would like to getto know the things that you
enjoy so we can enjoy themtogether and then have that
energy be reciprocated, becauseI don't feel like it's just the
things that I'm interested thatshould be highlighted, but also
two of the things that you'reinterested in And us be able to
build on that right.
And I feel like that's where alot of partnerships suffer.
In my relationships I can sayin the past suffered because it

(23:58):
was a lot of pouring in but notbeing poured into.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
That's so sad And I will tell you this I want to be
loved.
You understand what I'm saying.
I want to be loved.
I don't give a fuck about anyof the outside forces.
I don't care about Trace SongSong, I don't care about
whatever it is you happen to belistening to.
that's telling you the exactopposite of what niggas really

(24:23):
require.
I don't require part and a term.
I dick me and suck in order forme to be happy.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
Of course I'm not the sole focus.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, and I'm going to be honest with you, with me,
i want to come home and be ableto hug on my woman.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Home, when you come home to your home.
That's that energy.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Absolutely That part.
Yeah, yeah, see, that'sprobably what the podcast should
have been about, but I digressand we will get into that.
So would you choose violence toprotect your peace?
Look at that.
See what I did there.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
Switch the energy flow real quick I kind of did.
Yeah, in certain cases it'snecessary.
Ok, i don't just condoneviolence, right.
But don't fucking play with me,don't piss in my face and say
it's raining.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
It's all in your head .
Don't play with me.
More gas, like it.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
What'd you say?
Don't play with it.
Don't play with it.
Don't play with it.
Don't play with it.
Don't play with it.
Don't play with it.
Play with it.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
I tried to get the sound clip, but it was just too
much going on so I couldn't getit.

Speaker 5 (25:38):
Yeah, but yes, just shut up.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
Because my objective is not to disrupt somebody
else's peace.
So I can't allow you to, justyou know, to disrupt mine Right,
and there's certain people whoget off on that.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
That's the fact, because that's all they know,
Right, Right.
So I stopped blaming peopleLike, for instance, toxic
motherfuckers.
I just got to get away from I'mnot.
I'm no longer blaming toxicpeople.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
You understand what I'm saying, because that's all
you know.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, No, no, no, that's a fact.
If you dropped out inkindergarten because you
couldn't stack the blocks right,I can't blame you.
You understand what I'm saying?
That's not your, it wasn't yourthing.
You just didn't go any further.
So how can?

Speaker 4 (26:15):
I be mad at you.
You couldn't force the triangleto fit inside the circle.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
You could Exactly, there we go, that type of thing.
So I'm going to just leave yousmooth.
The fuck alone.
Just leave you alone.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Can't do it, no more.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
You find that it's more self-sabotaging to not, and
that's really weird.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Not even you know what.
Yes, it's definitelyself-sabotaging, But at the same
time, though, you know, if youkeep showing up at the, at the
playground, talking about youdon't like any of the games,
that it is you lying to yourself.
Yeah, part of that shit That'sthat's what you like.
You understand what I'm saying,Like what you like.
So this that's a fact.
That's a fact.

(26:52):
Yeah, Um, yeah, this one'sgoing to throw you a little bit
because I don't even know howWell, in my head I'm kind of
preparing What's your averagecost for a first date.
Hmm, in this inflation, Right,Well, no, no, no, I'm talking
about from you, from youpersonally.
So whether whatever factors youhave that might factor into

(27:13):
that, that final dollar cost,let's talk about it.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
Well, I mean.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
What's your expectation?

Speaker 4 (27:21):
I don't have like a numeric expectation, because I
feel like your date is more ofan experience.
So whatever it is that we'redoing together, it might, it can
be different.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
I'm not going to let you do that, Hold on Time out.
I ain't going to let you dothat.
I'm calling them throwing aflag on the play and I need
everybody back in the huddle.
This is the thing.
What.
No, no, no.
We're going to do this becauseI'm going to put a dollar amount
on it.
You don't?

Speaker 5 (27:45):
have to Okay.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
So what is it?
What is it In a short form,because you know, of course, we
got Bay Night coming up.
In short form.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
Okay, so if we do, if we doing dinner in an activity
right Um, like take for instance, I went on a date, you know, we
went, we had dinner and we Yougoing to bring this up?
That's not that.
That's not that date.
It's a different day.
Let's go.
So I'm.
You see, we can.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
I know I'm just going to shut up.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
You know, mr Leo, we can hear you roar.
All right, so with thisparticular date, we had dinner
and then we bowled.
Um, now we had an appetizer.
We had two appetizers.
We split them together, right.
Um, we had two drinks apieceand we had an entree.

(28:37):
Okay, um, now I'm just doingrough calculations The drink was
like $13 apiece, $30 for drinks.
The appetizer we got somecalamari and some, you know,
garlic, something with some likepesto dip, whatever That was
like.
I'm going to say like maybe $30for the two or two.
So we have $60 right now.

(28:57):
Our entrees are both like 20apiece.
So it was $100.
On dinner, maybe like $40, $45for the bowling and the shoes,
right, so a buck 50 was thatparticular instance.
Now, every time you go on adate, you might not always
include an activity, so that'snot fair to say.

(29:18):
So I would say ranging fromlike a bill to a buck 50.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
I'm talking about your first date.
I don't care about the rest ofthem.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
So that first date was like $150.
But that's not average.
We can't just say first dateand then say average.
That's only one.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
So we can't, it's my thing, we can't.
we can't go to the deli get achopped cheese and then go to
the park on the first date.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (29:47):
No, i'm asking.
That was a question.
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
I feel that's why I said it's more of an experience.
Like, don't take me to Paneraand get me a like, oh, you want
a coffee.
I don't even drink coffee.
Let there be some intentionbehind it.
Hey, like you, you could be onsome.
Hey, i'm trying to put you onone of my favorite.
Hey, this, this.
It might look like a hole in awall type spot, but this
motherfucker slap.
Like I want you to have thiswith me.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
And see, that's the thing.
like fellas, if you'relistening and I'm not giving you
advice, i probably would be thewrong one to get advice from.
However, it is all about theexperience.
It's the thought behind it,Right, ladies?
it's the thought behind it.
You understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
You heard me just say it.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, no, absolutely, and I'm just, you know, trying
to drive that home because a lotof motherfuckers think that you
know one about spending likespending the most amount of
money, like somebody you could.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
Here's the thing we go to the most expensive
restaurant and you could.
We could order the mostexpensive shit off the menu and
I could have an awful fuckingtime with you.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
That's a fact.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
Awful, awful, fucking time with you.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Am I going to?

Speaker 4 (31:01):
want to spend the block and do this again, which
you likely not.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
That's a fact.
It's the experience that youshare with a person.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
So that's why we get to date two.
That's why we get to date threebecause I enjoy the experience
with you, not necessarily whatwe're doing.
Yeah, we have fun together, butit's an overall experience.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
So And a couple other intangibles.
Don't get confused people.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Couple of other things that go with that For
sure.
So lastly, before we get up outof this segment, if you could
live in any sitcom, which onewould it be?

Speaker 5 (31:40):
Um.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
That's a stumper And I had it in my head, but then I
changed it, did you?
Yeah, i did.
It's a rare condition this dayand age.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Don't do that, don't do that.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
I won't even let you move in.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
Yeah, it's over.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah, let's change the channel, find another show.
Yeah, that was my shit.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
What I loved is that family dynamic.
You had two parents whoactively gave a fuck.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
That's a fact.
That's what I loved about it.
What I hated about it was thebuffoonery behind it.
You right?

Speaker 4 (32:25):
So, yes, right, but I'm just saying the dynamic, the
caring family right, and itdidn't it did.
A lot of sitcoms can put us outthere to look like, ah right,
living single.
Because I love the camaraderiebetween friends.
We can call each other out onour bullshit, but we can still

(32:48):
love each other at the end ofthe day.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Absolutely.
Living single And that to mewas like one of the best all
female cast, you know, dominantfemale cast shows that there
ever was.
It showed the dynamic offriends, friendships.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
We don't all have to be the same.
We can look different, havedifferent style, have different
appeals, have different walks oflife and still love each other
at the end of the day.
It was like genuine sisterhood,genuine sisterhood, black ass
sisterhood.
I love that element of it.
It just showed the straighthair, the braids, the locks,

(33:24):
like all of it.
It was just yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
And they were all from different walks of life as
well.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
For sure, for sure.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Living single.
Living single is actuallypretty dope.
Yeah, i can see you're livingsingle, good end.
Main course, it's time to eat.
What's on your mind?
Now, this is the shit I've beenwaiting for.
Uh-oh, let's wait for this.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
I'll be, scared of you Today now don't do that.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Today, ladies and gentlemen, we are talking about
thirst trapping.
I was doing a little researchbecause I want to know when
exactly it started, and I knewthat when I found what I was
looking for, it would beabsolutely incorrect, because
there's so many different formsof thirst trapping.
I guess, in this truest form orthe modern day form, they gave

(34:11):
it a name And it was thirsttrapping, but it was so many
other things.
But this is what I found.
Thirst trap is a social mediaterm for when someone posts a
statement or photograph usuallya sexually suggestive selfie to
tongue twister on Twitter orInstagram or elsewhere, creating
a sexual thirst.
That shit just sounds weird Asexual thirst in a person who's

(34:36):
receiving it.
Some white person wrote thisMan.
The term thirst trap was firstentered into the urban
dictionary on October 11, 2011.
10, 11, 11.
Whatever The find is anystatement or picture used
intentionally to createattention or thirst.

(34:57):
Okay, so now we got that out ofthe way.
We got that out of the way withsocial media, right, cause this
is like this is the new barscene, this is the new lounge,

(35:19):
this is the new supermarket,right?
So this is the new where we goto actually interact and meet
people For sure, right.
So with that, first of all,have you ever knowingly
participated in any ThirstTrappery?

Speaker 4 (35:39):
Um, this is going to also sound like full of, like,
i'm full of myself, like, andit's not even that, it's not a
Thirst Trap.
I just look like that, whatThat's?
it was like a meme, i seen itwas like I'm not, it's not a
Thirst Trap, i just look likethat.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Okay, right, so you was like this is me in real life
.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
This is just like I exude sexual energy without
really trying Right?
So am I getting on here likeposting, like see-through shirts
and you can see my nipples allthe time, type shit, no, sitting
on bathroom counters with myass tutored up and you getting
mirror shot, i know, but like itcould be, i don't have small.

(36:25):
I don't have a small chest.
Like cleavage is going to beinevitable, like I may look-.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
I see people rushing to the video right now.
They just bookmarked this shit.
They wait for the video to comeout.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
You know like it's not even I need to see what she
talking about.
It's not even, and this is likea regular shirt, like somebody
who has no chest wouldn't bebearing any cleavage, but me,
because I have, you know, achest, like it is going to
appear that way.
I think that shape definitelyhas something to do with it,
because I could have on the sameoutfit as somebody who has no,

(36:58):
no thighs, like right.
I could put on some shorts, puton the same outfit as somebody
who's just stickly right Andit's appropriate for her, but
I'm, i'm attention seekingbecause my thighs are big, so
it's like I can't.
I'm not intentionally posting athird, i just look like that.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
Guy gave me some extra rolls and a poundage.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
So it's just like you know it's yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
I've seen some pictures of you on Instagram.
They're thirsty.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
They're thirsty.
They're thirst, trap-ish.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Not intentionally.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Y'all is strictly for the parts.
She's what the catch is, oh my.
God.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
I'm scrolling my Instagram right now and I'm
trying to figure out like do Ihave?

Speaker 1 (37:41):
I don't know, maybe you, maybe you cleaned it up,
because I know you definitely,and I don't even want to say
cleaned it up, because that justcame out wrong, not cleaned it
up.
But I'm just saying you've beenposting probably other things,
but yeah, i've seen some and ifit's just look see.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
I'm looking.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Did you come across something?

Speaker 4 (37:59):
On my birthday?
I was definitely on that.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Oh my God, but it wasn't like thirst trap action,
it was just like I was in mysexy girl energy.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Like using your element at that point For sure,
and what I don't like is thatthey dropped this.
this urban dictionary said itcame out October 11th, three
days before my birthday.
So that means thirst trap.
thirst trapping was born inLibra energy.
I don't like that And let's sayit's not going to change.
We are the flirted ones of theZodiac.

(38:30):
So it makes a little sense.
But I don't like.
I don't like how they do that,how they did that, embrace it.
You know, embrace it.
Let me be great.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Um, okay, so quick question Let's, let's, let's get
into this, let's debate this.
You think that thirst trappinghas changed the dating landscape
?
Because I know a lot of peoplethat, like yo, the dating pool
is pissed in and stuff like that.
Me, i don't subscribe to that,although I am married.
You know, i don't subscribe toit because it's all about where

(39:06):
you're going to actually findtalent.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
But dating apps are also like you're going to have
your people who are in it Andit's predominance, like I feel
like Tinder was amongst.
Like you know, that is hookup,culture, energy, like.
So if you on Tinder looking forthe love of your life, ah, it
can happen, it can.
So I'm not saying it can't, butthere's probabilities in

(39:33):
anything, right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
I mean you're going to find a whole lot of creeps,
but it can happen, Right.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
So when you roll a dice, the probability that
you're going to land on a, on a,you know, on a seven, i mean on
a six, is like it's one in six.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
But let me, let me, let me throw you a curveball.
So, boom, yes, i can go onTinder.
right, and this is still in thevein of thirst trapping,
because Tinder and you know whenapps like that they're the
biggest thirst traps.
right, cause, what are youdoing?
You're posting pictures to getattention, right, right, cause
nobody's really reading thecaption, unless I was just about
to say that Motherfuckers don'tread styles Most can't, but

(40:10):
this is the thing Outside ofthat, right?
So you were talking about theprobability of shit working out
or you encounter in a creep,right, right, we could do that,
we could do that.
Or you can still encounter thesame creep at a hookah lounge.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
That's a fact.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Add, add, add.
It's just that you get to weedthrough it.
You get to filter through theshit a lot quicker.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
That's really except, like dating apps make people
hyper accessible.
That's the only difference.
So, in my to my, in my defense,there's people who are actively
seeking a relationship And thenthere's people who are just on
some hookup type shit And, likeI said, most people don't read,
cause in most of these appsthey'll let you preface it with

(40:56):
what your dating intentions are.
On a date nap, i can tell youthere's several people who match
with me, who are on likefriends with benefits, right On
my page.
Don't say shit like that.
If you're actually looking forfriends with benefits, go ahead.
Swipe left my love.
I wish you well on your journey, love Right.

(41:17):
But you get people who a um,what you want tonight And I'm
like I'm actually working rightnow, all right.
So what you doing after Havingdinner?
Oh yeah, i could slide.
Um, did you read my profile,sir?
Oh, hold on, hold on.
Oh yeah, but I mean youbeautiful, though, like yeah,

(41:40):
like sir, me being beautifuldon't mean I want you in my
house.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
That's a fact, though .
But, that's a fact.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
But what I'm, what I'm getting to.
that is that works for some.
that works for them In some.
some cases, there's some womenthat might just be on some.
Yeah, i want some dick tonight,so I'mma let him slide Now.
you don't give a fuck aboutyour safety, but ah, neither
here nor there.
I'm not here to judge you.
Make smarter choices, but Thatworks for them.

(42:07):
You know what It works for them.
that's why they do it.
Styles, there's somebody outthere biting, so that's why they
do it.
You know what You know what.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
You're absolutely right about that, but at the
same time, no, like I was caughtin between wanting to be judgy
Right, but then not being judgy,because it's just another form
of Alright, let's talk aboutcheating real quick.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Just to, because they do parallel.
So if you're cheating back inthe day, require other things.
We didn't have the tools thatwe have to cheat now, right, so
we can definitely hide it a lotbetter.

Speaker 5 (42:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Now You get what I'm saying, mm-hmm.
So, in the same respect, goinghome with somebody on the first
night versus going on to the app, they're the same thing,
they're just two different, iguess, models and modes in which
you actually, you know, closethat deal, so to speak.
Right, you get me.
So it's been, it's been aroundsince a different, different

(43:09):
mode of operating.
I guess You know It is, So thisis the way because again.
I'm like, damn, that's whatyou're doing You know, what I
mean, because in the past I'mnever paying for ads Like pay
for ad.
Who does that?
You understand, you understand,but apparently people do You
understand, so it's justdifferent.

(43:29):
Now You cash a hat, pull me.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
I mean It'd be like that, so I don't want to.
There's people on date naps whoare just like Hey.
Subscribe to my premiumSnapchat, baby make All your
only fans.
Make your only fans link andpost that shit.
some Like they're thirsty, butthere are thirsty men out there

(43:53):
who want that.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Plenty.
That's why only fans are so big.
Right, you know, it's, it'sfucking huge.
You know, and I guess, god, iwas born in the right town.

Speaker 5 (44:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
I want to say that because I'd be a fucking
nightmare.
Um, yeah, and that's just, it'sjust too much going on.
You understand, i'm saying Itry to like, um, chill my kids
from that, you know.
So it's like a whole, a wholeworld of technology being born
on the other side of my door,inside here.

(44:30):
Yeah, this is Little House on aPrairie.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
Yeah, I'm just saying , Like you got.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
You know, this is churning butter.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
You got people who Want I don't want to say settle
down, like I hate that term,like settle down Like you get
people who are wanting a seriousrelationship and then you also
get people who Don't.
I respect both sides of it, butmy thing is this Find what
wants you.
Oh, okay, right, find whatwants you.

(45:02):
In a lot of cases, people wantto find what they like and make
what they liked.
It May not like them, like themor want them, and it's like we
all have preferences, like, evenlike this.
I'm gonna put this one outthere because it's like a It's
an elephant in the room kind ofa conversation when you have
these kinds of conversations.
Well, me, being a bigger girl,i know I'm not everybody's cup

(45:25):
of tea and I'm okay with that.
Right.
Right, never stop motherfuckersfrom sipping.
You might not be the one to doit, and that's all right.
Right, but we all havepreferences.
Whether I meet your preferences, or you meet mine, or I meet
yours, or vice versa, whatever,we're not all going to meet

(45:46):
every individual's preferences.
That's why we're different as ahuman race.
We all look different.
That's the fact.
We all have different shapes, weall have different hair, we
have different complexions.
We have different ideologies.
We have different personalities.
We have things that make usdifferent.
Find what likes you And beattracted to what like.

(46:09):
I don't want to say only thethings that like you, but like
what you like.
You can't make somebody be whatyou want them to be just
because you like it.
That's what I'm getting at.
People will like you and beattracted to you and be upset
that you don't want what theywant, and it's just like.
It's okay for us to wantdifferent things.
You can't force me to want whatyou want, just like how you was

(46:34):
.
Like, uh, with the whole thirsttrap thing, there's plenty of
men who go after these women whojust thirst trapping and they
just kind of get geeked up offthe attention, but they don't
want none of them.
Niggas, who's really in a inboxsaying you know?
so you beat a man, what was?
what was dude's name?
Our players club followingwhich following shorty home.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Oh, you know what I don't?
Yeah, it was Stanley.
I believe it was Stanley, rightThe dude that assaulted her.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
It'd be them time, them type of niggas that get
caught up in the thirst traps,and then they'd be like oh well,
you know we made a connectionand you done.
Hey beautiful Me 69 times in myinbox.
I ain't never said a fuckingword.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Hey beautiful.
Oh, good morning, love Goodmorning.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
Like yo you got to find who likes you and like them
.
I literally just posted someshit about that earlier too.
Like you know, like who likesyou and love.
But what if you don't even likethat?
I'm saying you're eventuallygoing to like who likes you,
Right?
And then y'all want to be worndown.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Oh, danielle, don't, don't wear me down.
You would have said I end up ina bed with somebody out that
wouldn't check any of the boxes.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
That's not what I'm saying, you can like what you
like, but make sure they likeyou.
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Okay, there we go, because you went with another
direction.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
Get to the bottom of the barrel and find you
something like that's not whatI'm saying You know, whatever
you like make sure they like youtoo, because otherwise you're
going to have to do yourself awhole lot of convincing and you
might not convince a person orwant what you want.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
I see you over there trying to clean that up.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
I like what you like.
Yeah, the way I worded thatshit was kind of bad, like find,
find your mate.
That's really what I shouldhave said.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Find your mate, there's somebody out there, hey,
yo does somebody just pulltheir car over just now, just to
rewind this shit.
Did she just say what I thinkshe said.
Did she say just like thembecause they like you?

Speaker 4 (48:32):
No, yeah, yeah, because that's not always gonna
work.
You're going to have a lot ofpeople who like you, that you
might not like.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
All right, so let me, let me place you in a dangerous
scenario.
Uh-oh, all right, so boom.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
We in a dangerous zone.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Um, um, um, um you yourself.

Speaker 5 (48:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Short version You, because this is a has a lot of
different moving pieces.
You yourself, could you takesomebody's life, for instance?
Oh, okay, Boom, Let's go backto chocolate waste.
Do you remember I used tocomplain like yeah but I post
like dude Oh my gosh.

Speaker 5 (49:06):
Yeah, you used to hate that.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
What the fuck y'all always want?
We there are women in thisworld.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
There are And you was like, just send us one.
I'm like, but then I'm doingthe work.
We had a predominant um femaleaudience.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Right, right, i know, but I was giving Leo any, it
was just about me.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
A sprinkle of of men who who listened in yourself
included, very much appreciated.
Um, so we did kind of start totry to go with the, you know,
incorporating the women, and itwas just like stop playing That
shit.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
lasted two seconds.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
Yeah, cause it was just like come on now, like
we're women, y'all choose tolisten and we appreciate it.
But the, the, the get wastedWednesdays were yeah, That was a
thing.

Speaker 5 (49:53):
This is about the niggas.
Pretty consistent with it.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
But a niggas.

Speaker 5 (49:56):
All right, here we go .

Speaker 4 (49:57):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (49:59):
Yeah, that was a tie, all right.
So boom.
Can you?

Speaker 1 (50:05):
take a person serious ?
Can you take a person seriouslyThat you double tap on like
consistently, cause we do itwith celebrities, but we're just
talking about the, the, the,the, the, the celebrities, but
we're just talking about thirsttraps.
You know what I mean, regulardudes, but in your mind they
just thirst traffic.
Yeah, you know that they off.

(50:26):
but then you know, one day youwake up and then your DM cause
you're, you're consistently onthat page and consistently
double tapping.
Can you, can you take that dudeserious?

Speaker 4 (50:36):
It depends on if you have substance.

Speaker 5 (50:38):
Cause there's a lot of people that are visually.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
There's visually beautiful people, but they're
empty on the inside.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
No, that's the fact, though, so you would engage in
conversation.
See, i'm just trying to getpast the gatekeeper right now.
You keep.
she stopped me at the gategiving me a whole fucking
application.
I'm standing for like threehours trying to fill it out.
Yeah, i miss a part.
you tell me, get to the back ofthe line and come back.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
I don't know, you know, i don't think that like,
my thing is this I don't knowhow seriously I could take you
if that's.
All you do is thirst trap.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Oh okay, i got a better one for you, are you?

Speaker 4 (51:13):
ready Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Cause I know you're going to take us to church on
this one.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
So do you think that you could trust someone, a guy
thirst trapping?
He never, he's never admittedto thirst trap.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
He definitely posed those type of pictures, like big
print pictures, can we justlike type shit, i'm not taking
you, we don't have to go thereWe don't.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
I just not going to go flush my mind.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Pause Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
But if you, if you if you online doing all that all
the time.
I really probably can't trustyou, because you're, it's okay
to have substance.
Okay, it's okay to havesubstance, but like can can we
see a little more of that?

Speaker 1 (52:00):
A little more What.
Your substance Substance ain'tfor everybody, it ain't great
Okay.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
So look, also, you got to realize that post.
like you know, during thepandemic, motherfuckers really
clouded up off this internet,profiting For for sure.
So you could be posting certainshit because it makes you money
.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Or it makes you feel good.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
Whatever it is In a lot of cases, right.
People post the shit that theypost because they're getting
views.
They're getting monetized forthese posts.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Okay, no, that's a fact, but this let's say that
he's not there, okay.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
You know 500 likes.
What are you doing, sir?
What was you doing this forThat?
doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
You have substance, can you trust him?
Nah, nah, why I don't?

Speaker 4 (52:46):
know, Cause I'm like what is your intention with this
?

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Well, he has substance, so clearly there is
some type of intention.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
That's not.
That's not what you're puttingout there, though, So like.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
But that's not for everybody.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
It's not for everybody.
He's giving you somethingdifferent.
It really that's.
that's super situational.
I don't really date people whoare like internet influencers.
That's not really my cup of tea, okay.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
That's not to say it couldn't happen.

Speaker 5 (53:15):
Ah, all right Cool.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Let me take you to deep water.
Hopefully you can swim.
All right, you're in arelationship, yeah Right, and I
know you're going to get.
You're going to come at me withyour grown woman shit, which is
fine, i'm here for it.
The um, your mate.
I don't even want to say youcatch him because you can't
catch him.
Like liking, like you'reclearly looking.

(53:43):
Yeah, he's not hiding itbecause he can't hide it, but I
did phrase it catching him.
Yeah, liking pictures of athirst trap consistently.
Is that a thing for you?
Is that put?

Speaker 5 (53:56):
you in a mood.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Like, does it upset me?
Is there a conversation?

Speaker 5 (54:02):
to be had.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
I, the internet's not real.
See, you want to make me goback to the, to the previous
discussion we were just havingabout trust and all of that and
why he does it, and if it's notreal, i mean okay.
So no, right, right, if youdon't take that same thing,
you're going to get it.

Speaker 5 (54:27):
All right.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
So if, if all you do is like and like and like and
like and like and a whole bunchof thirst trap type shit, like
people put it out there for youto like it, Right, Right, Um, I
might be like what?
like?
what's good with you with allthis?
Like I don't think it's goingto make me insecure.
I don't think it's going tomake me insecure.

(54:50):
Like I don't think it's goingto make me insecure, but it'd be
like okay, Like that was myfollow up.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
You just deaded me on my father.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
Cause you'll never notice motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
That's a fact.
Well, you don't know.
See, don't do that Come on now,don't?

Speaker 4 (55:08):
do anything you're going to be be fucking for real.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Don't do that.
Fucking for real.
Don't do that.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
You over here like double tapping Kim case.
You don't know the reason I say.
That is this.
I know that you're going toknow that you're dating quality.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Hold on, you're dating quality, right.
So I believe I have always.
But um, every everybody can betouched the.

(55:39):
The internet made the world alot smaller.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
Yeah, people are super accessible.
But what I'm saying is like, ifthat's, if you get to that
point where you feel like yougot to be Reaching out to these
celebrities on that level andyou dating somebody you not for
me anyway Okay, so I'm gonna letyou go find that.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
All right, danielle, aka to shut down Queen.

Speaker 4 (55:58):
I'm just saying I'm gonna let you go find that cuz
at this point, like you said,couple rewind Violence to
protect my peace, or sometimesyou got to just cut
motherfuckers off cuz like Idon't want to even let you get
that out of me, so go in andfind what you like.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
So you already answered my follow-up question.
As there you know as theirpartner or his partner.
How does that impact your egoor self-esteem?
and clearly it does not.
You're just not going for, youknow, with the I'm not like,
don't play, don't play with it.
Now you gotta do it right,don't?

Speaker 4 (56:30):
do that, don't play with it.
Don't play with it.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Don't play with it.
All right, there we go.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking.
You gotta do Brooklyn proud.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
Yeah, i mean I'm from , I'm from the verbs, but I'm
that shit.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Come on, oh, that's, we even go over that.
Where are you from What?
let him know where you from.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
Okay, we talk about it.
You know I'm from the Northwestsuburbs in Illinois.
The S is silent.

Speaker 5 (56:56):
The well in your state.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
It was less.
Every text book Illinois s, wepronounce it.
Illinois, Illinois yeah, that'sfucked up.
I feel real dumb right now.
Why cuz like for my 48.
You've been saying Illinois hasalways been plural.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
See the S, but release it when you say it, like
don't say that.
You can always tell like likekind of how you your intro kind
of goes in.
Like you know, motherfuckersIntroduce themselves from they
burrow.
They don't say yeah, i'm fromNew York, no, you hear a mother
saying I'm from Illinois.
You know they are lying, youare not from here.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
You already know I'm on a prowl right now.
If I happen to ask you that,don't fucking answer it.
It's a trick.
I promise you with it.
Yeah, i'm looking to callsomebody a fucking liar right
now.
That's it.
You have any final thoughts ofon Thursday traffic?

Speaker 4 (58:00):
No, no, no, Thursday, it is what it is.
If that's what you went to,that's what you went to, but you
just better make sure youunderstand the The, the weight
that comes with that shit.
In the event that you do wantto be taken serious, are you
gonna be willing to shift theway that you present yourself In
the event that you findyourself in a relationship?

Speaker 1 (58:16):
you got to understand that there's a territory that
people might not like See thisis why I had you close out the
segment, because I was gonnaclose it out with my for you
page.
That shit is nasty work, man.

Speaker 5 (58:30):
Let me see what my important day just is talking
about it.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
Hey, wow, yeah, yeah, cooking videos cuz.
I be, i be yeah see, it'sprobably because you'd be liking
all them thirst traps, that'sno.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
And that's the thing I tried to tell my wife I was
like listen, nah cuz.
I told I was like yo, this is Imatter of fact, i'll even show
her.
You know, whatever, and like Idon't, i would love, if I would
love, it to be every other postSomebody clapping cheeks, but it
ain't that.
They twerking in every fuckingpost, every post.

Speaker 4 (59:03):
I got dogs fucking twerking.
I got all fucking squirrelstwerking.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
I got every like this is wow.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
Yeah, yeah, it's nasty work.
I'm sorry, nasty work.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Bay night sexy nights and good food, mm-hmm.
Yeah, you already know what itis.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
I'm not gonna explain it twice.
Like I always fight with theguests during this segment, this
segment, right here, thissegment, right here, this
segment.
Why?
But you got something for me.
It doesn't matter.
Oh, it doesn't matter.
Yeah, cuz you're gonna give mesomething.
Good pause, we're just gonnasit back and I know I got my pen

(59:43):
, i got my paybook.
I know I'm gonna have questionsand I'll try to keep up.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
All right.
So what are we talking?

Speaker 1 (59:49):
floor is yours.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
Bay night like what you want me to just get into a
uh, and that's why we fightbecause like that's why we all
right then, be quiet and let merun.
Previous bay night, or a baynight that I can say I really
enjoyed myself.

(01:00:11):
We did something That I liked,and then I was encouraged to
want to know more about what heliked, what he enjoyed, so He
shared that.
One of the things he loves todo is escape rooms, so I was
like all right, cool.
Like I was very nervous thoughat first, like this is this?

(01:00:32):
is Danielle coming out of hershell?
because I don't like scary shit, right.
So I'm like is it, is it scary?
like I don't like this.
I'm having hard computations onthe low because I'm like I
don't want to get stuck.
Like what if people jumping outat me?
I'm swinging, like do I lock mypurse up?
kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Because Then yo can I jump in for a second.
So There's some irony here.
My wife and I went to a escaperoom.

Speaker 5 (01:01:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Right and nobody expected anything scary
whatsoever, right.
So right now you blogging, isshe like, yeah, how good, i'm
gonna let you go, i'm okay.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
So look, because I don't do the scary thing either.
I don't like people jumping outat me and I'm the type to swing
if I'm like, ah, all right,like, and I know it's just for
play, but you playing withpeople's reactions like gut
reaction And it's just it's notgoing to be good.
So I'm like I don't want to gofuck with my reflex.
Okay, so I'm like I don't wantto get in here on date night.
We supposed to be, you know,having a good time together and

(01:01:35):
I'm right to knock somebody tothe fuck out and we on a date
Like I don't want to have to geton that type of time.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
But it's an escape room.
It's not gay.

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
I didn't know what to expect because this is my first
time going.
I'm seeing reviews and I'mseeing they got a couple scary
like scare factor percentages onhere.
So I'm like, uh, so I'm kind ofnervous, right, because I'm not
knowing what kind of escaperooms he likes.
So I'm asking more questionsand he, like you know, um, he's
a computer engineer, so he'slike into the tactical thinking

(01:02:08):
and and right, right, thechallenges of things and, like
you know, problem-solving.
So, right, the escape room thatwe did, um, it was like a
pharaoh's tomb, right.
So our, our goal was to, um,get the scare up.
Am I saying it, right, like thelittle?

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
beetle, what Oh it's called?
uh, um, that thing scare up, idon't know.
They'll google it later, right?

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
I don't know what I'm talking about?
a little beetle thing, right?
So, and You had to, there's likefour rooms within this room And
you had to figure out thesedifferent clues and all of this
and, like, what I liked aboutthis date night was that Me I'm
getting to know this man but I'malso being able to kind of

(01:02:58):
reveal how, how actively we canproblem solve together, right,
how compatible we are when itcomes to communicating like and
figuring something the fuck outtogether like.
That was sexy to me, likeseeing this man actively, right,
you know take charge.
Yes, It was just like it islocked room you know, in this
locked room, like how they, howwe Fucking get now and he like,

(01:03:20):
look we, we gonna figure thisshit out, and like he's over
here figuring things out, i'mover here figuring shit out, and
if we come back together likeall right, look what I found,
type shit, and we, we'refiguring this room out.
And we got out.
This is my first escape roomand we got out.
So, um, i like the experiencebecause it was just like you
know we.
It was like a team building, umright, and also too like it.

(01:03:43):
It it taught you to.
You got to trust your partnerAnd I feel like, in a lot of
different ways, this escape roomWas also relative to a
relationship.
In a relationship, you got tounderstand how to trust your
partner, understand sometimeswhen you are the one who
possesses the knowledge that youmight be able to help A
situation, and understand thatsometimes you're gonna be the
motherfucker who don't know whatto do.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
I'm not you know what , and it was so crazy about it
is that.
Um, i think that Escape roomsare an ideal date.
Yes, right, not before you'regoing, you know you're with your
partner, with your partner typeof situation.
I went with my wife, who wasthen my wife at that time.
Yeah you know and had it wenthorribly, we got divorced.
I'm playing.

(01:04:25):
Oh my god but I'm playing, butwe're both like hyper
competitive.
We're trying to figure shit out.
Yeah, in this escape room orwhatever.
The day um also allowed you tolike, get clues and hints and
stuff like that, like thewalkie-talkie thing, right.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
So right um, it was like dark in that room, so like
we had a lantern till, we couldnot pitch black dark.
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
I don't care, they're doing too much.
So it was like every light onin this motherfucker, no it
wasn't like that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
It was like it was like dim lighting.
And then you had this.
You know your little Lantern orwhatever um, and you know you
go on from room to room and itwas just like there was like
three padlocks on feroce tomb tohave to.
Open up.
But you had to use these cluesthat were all throughout the you
know different rooms and, likeyou know, there was like a date,

(01:05:14):
uh, it had like uh, june 21ston something Very blatantly
obvious on this desk.
So we like, all right, bet zero, six, two, one was the
combination to get one of themopen.
So we got that open and then,um, shortly after getting it

(01:05:34):
open, kind of started justfiguring out other clues
throughout the whole, the wholespot.
So we got all of this shit doneand once we got to the end,
like you had to crawl out rightAnd when we got out, like we
both looked at each other likejust not surprised, but it was
just like damn, we did that andit was just like a feeling of
accomplishment because You'redating somebody, you getting to

(01:05:55):
know them, you're kind ofgetting to know what their
problem-solving skills are like,you're kind of getting to know
How they communicate, like howthey are under pressure, and
that's what this shit reallyrevealed and it was just I don't
know, it was super attractive.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
It's a teamwork aspect.
for me It is.

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
You know, and it kind of gives you like some insight
as to what that first argumentis gonna or disagreement is
gonna look like Yeah, causethere's gonna be plenty of them
in that room.
You know what I'm saying, youknow what I'm saying, so you
gotta allow each other thelatitude to actually make a
mistake.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
Yeah, be wrong, that is a fact.
What does that look like?

Speaker 5 (01:06:25):
That is a fact.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
What I'm saying You'll find out in that room.

Speaker 5 (01:06:27):
I promise Exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
So I love that part.
You know, being able to get toknow him in that way.
I kind of see what that waslike, so super fun.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
All right, he's still around.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
Yeah, he's still around, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
That's what's up.

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
Yeah, that's what's up.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Okay, man, That's actually a.
really it's one of my.
I'm gonna get punched in theface.
What I'm saying is it's one ofmy favorite date nights that
I've, or bay nights that I'vegotten on the show so far.
You know, Yeah, The escape room.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
It was so fun, and just the mere fact that I could
really relate, cause I did it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
You know I was going to a haunted house for Halloween
.
Right, it wasn't a hauntedhouse, i'm lying, it was
actually a haunted warehouse,i'm haunted anything, i'm good,
no, no, no, hold on, i'm withyou.
You preaching to the choirright now.
I don't play them games, likewhen we watch scary movies.
The only way I'm watching it isif she's there.
I'm not watching it any otherway.
It ain't gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (01:07:22):
I don't give a fuck if I'm I like the sleep one at
night and I don't like themdisturbances.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
You wanna, or anyway.
So she's for all of shit.
She's like how you call it?
Everything that comes like thewalking dead, the walking
anything dead.
Nah, but hold on.
I took her to the haunted houseI mean the haunted house Cause
this is her thing.
So I'm like, all right, cool,we went, whatever This happened,

(01:07:49):
to be in Dallas And in Dallas,you know, they do everything big
.
It was a fucking warehouse.
I'm like I don't know how thehell it's a fucking warehouse.
There's too much room, right,just like you said earlier, she
was like now I want peoplejumping out testing my reflexes.
She was so fucking scared AndI'm like I'm walking through
like nothing, like it ain't,like this shit is corny to a

(01:08:12):
degree for me, you know, andthen for her she's all like
jumping at everything, literallyeverything.
Matter of fact, we was comingthrough almost on the way out of
this shit And one of the dudesI guess he was like in the wall
some way, some how It's myfucking drops itself off And
he's like, can you pass that tome?
Yeah, no problem, hold that.

(01:08:32):
But yeah, no, i don't do thescary thing either.
And thank you for that BayNight, i appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
That was good shit, bay Night was fire.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Uh-oh, hold on Cause.
Oh, so this will be yo.
you are the consummateprofessional.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Dessert.
I hope you guys enjoyed yourmeal.
Can I get you something off ofour dessert menu?

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
All right, we reached the end of the road.
Hey, to the end of the road.
I don't know where they canfind you and all of that.
Uh-oh, sorry, there's alreadyalbum coming soon.

Speaker 4 (01:09:14):
Nah, ha, ha, ha ha.
Oh man, this was fun.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
It was, and we will definitely do it again.
For sure, for sure.
It's nothing to talk about, forsure.
But I think it'll have to belike a face to face, so I might
have to come out to Chicago.

Speaker 5 (01:09:28):
I'm not Illinois.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Yeah, no S Illinois.

Speaker 4 (01:09:32):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:34):
I'm rocking.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
It's that public school education.
I'm rocking, yeah, and you too.
Let everybody know where theycan find you.

Speaker 4 (01:09:44):
You can find me, daniel underscore, underscore
Alexandria on IG.
Due to my line of work, i hadto make my Facebook private
because my students were tryingto add me and shit, and we can't
do that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
You thirst happen when you end up stopping.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
Great games.
I recently made a TikTok DannyB Cooking, where I love to cook,
so like sharing differentrecipes and shit like that, but
if I say it, i'm giving birth toit.
On the pot right now.

Speaker 5 (01:10:22):
OK.

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
I will be coming out with my own podcast In the
upcoming months.
I'm just kind of putting someideas together so I can then,
when I do it, i do it and I doit right, but, yeah, kotox.
So my nickname is Coco, butyeah, kotox.
And the objective is it is forme to speak to myself but also

(01:10:47):
speak to y'all at the same time.
So these are, these arenecessary conversations, and I
feel conversations that we havewith ourselves that are pivotal
and transformational can also betransformative in somebody
else's life if we share it.
So just some real lifeconversation, because a lot of
the podcasts out right now arereally heavily geared on the
whole click bait, shock valuematerial, and that's not

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transformational.
My make you laugh for themoment, but in the grand scheme
and the end, all be all, it'snot really helping to transform
or elevate yourself in any kindof way, and that's kind of the
energy that I like to fuck with.
So, kotox, stay on the lookoutfor that, because if you follow
me on my page, i'm definitelygoing to let y'all know when it
drops.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
Podcasts Susanness, i'm with it.
Yeah, i'm with it.
That's right, and that washeavy And I ain't going to hold
you up.
However, i will let you knowthat I greatly and deeply
appreciate you coming through.
For sure You know.

Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
It was a time.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
Thank you.
Shout outs to my wife.
Shout outs to Paul.
Shout outs to Jess.
Bless Jess.

Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
We'll catch y'all on the flip side, step time again.
And since we really don't knowhow to say goodbye, i'm not
going to say goodbye, but listenwhat I will ask, paul, i'm not
even asking.
If you liked it, please don'tforget to like, comment,
subscribe and shit, and that'shomework Also.
There is no.
Also, we'll catch you next week.

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We'll save a seat at the tablefor you.