The State of Cloud Native for 2025

Tobi Knaup (@superguenter, VP/GM of Cloud Native @Nutanix) talks about the evolution of the cloud-native ecosystem, the intersection of AI and Kubernetes, and expectations of the next few years.  

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SHOW NOTES:

• Nutanix Cloud Native
• The Cloudcast #211 - Mesosphere DCOS

Topic 1 - Welcome to the show! Full disclosure for everyone out there, I worked for Tobi at Nutanix. Give everyone a brief introduction and a little about your background.

Topic 2 - This is a throwback for our long-time listeners. We had Ben Hindman on episode #211 almost 10 years ago, when D2IQ was Mesosphere, and we also spoke to Dave Lester, who was at Twitter back in 2014.  I’m not going to ask you to catch everyone up on 10 years of your company and the history… but I will encourage everyone to go back and listen to that podcast. It is an excellent snapshot of the early days of cloud native and containers. Today, we will talk a bit about the state of cloud native. The most recent KubeCon EU was a few months ago. What were your thoughts around the event and the current state of the industry? 

Topic 3 - What are the most prominent challenges organizations face today with Cloud Native adoption?  You hear about the complexity, you hear about Kubernetes is a platform to build platforms… still true?

Topic 4 - Where do you think Cloud Native goes in the next 2-3 years? What technologies or design patterns (besides AI, we’ll talk about that later) evolve, and where does the next round of adoption come from?

Topic 5 - Let’s talk about storage and data services quickly. Data services for K8s is messy, really messy at times. Give everyone an overview of the problem at scale and the challenges, especially in multi-cloud environments, which I’m finding more and more.

Topic 6 - I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention AI and its impact in the space. AI came along and sucked all the air out of the room for a time. How do you think about AI today, now that the dust has settled a bit? Is it just an “app” to run on top? How will AI impact cloud native longer term?

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