August 10, 2025 • 12 mins
Tiana Lillian Marie Caffey is an American professional wrestler and former soccer player. She is signed to WWE, where she performs on the NXT brand under the ring name Jaida Parker, and is a member of the Out the Mud stable.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey guys, Brad Gilmour here, want to give a big
shout out to our title sponsor, Walker Texas Lawyer. If
you are a love would have been injured in an accident,
whether that be a car, truck, motorcycle accident, or some
kind of other issue. Hit up Walker Texas Lawyer at
seven one three five five to two one one one
seven or Walker Texas Lawyer dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Oh Broadcasting live from Houston, Texas and around the world
and are around the world.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
TV host, best selling author and radio personality, Brad Gilmour
brings you a collection of conversations with stars from movies.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Matthew McConaughey, Brad Gilmore, Mark wohlburg By, how are you
the legendary mister Christopher Lloyd Christopher, how are we doing?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I'm doing good?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Says Jessica Alba and Lizzie Matthis, ladies, thank you so
much for joining me.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Kevin Coster joins us, Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Thank you Television.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Jimmy Fallon joins us this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Jimmy, how you doing, my friend?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Good morning. Thank you so much Brad for having me.
I appreciate this.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
But Kelly Ripperd, thank you for having me comedy.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Jay Leno joins us, Jay, how you doing.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Hey, Brad? What's going on?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Chris Tucker is in the bill that Chris Tucker.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Good morning to you. Hey you.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
George Lopez joins us right now, George, how are you
doing so?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Good morning music?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Lola men Row, thank you, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
The legendary front man of ac DC. Brian Johnson joins
us right now, Brian, how you doing?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Good morning?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Brock what looking at joke?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Give me funny live Megan Trainer. Chloe Bailey joins us.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I appreciate the time.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Appreciate you and more and more. This is the collection,
now your host of the boat. I feel like I'm
just getting started. They tried to finish me. I'm like
the universe infinite. There's no wind in me. Yeah. This
(01:59):
is the bounce back. Watch will y'all, this is the
bounce back. You come to bounce back, Jim your rise
on him? This is the bounce back.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Oh yeah, man?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Is that a Hall of fame?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
The ESPN Radio series Except Shallow, They guys tune into
Baseball Action today as the Phillies host The Tagers, presented
by Progressive Insurance. First Pitch just after the top of
the hour, hero to the ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Guys,
(02:37):
should be some great action, man, I love that song.
Man Will smith Man take it over?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
That's what I like.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Oh, you know, speaking of you know, we got a major, major,
up and coming superstar. I'm talking about having a meteoric.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Rise here in the world of pfessional wrestling.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Guys, give it up for the one and only Miss Parker.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Jada. Oh yes, how you doing, Jada?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
What you what you ride?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
What you what you ride? Do you got the music
up or something? What's going on? You ride? You know
what I mean?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I got you, I got you on my radio right now.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
But you need to cut that radio down, all right?
What is what I need to do? What I need?
What I need is uh to talk about what's going
on with Jada Parking All of a sudden, Man, seemed.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Like you just exploded. What do you think? What do
you think?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
What's the what's the switch that I'm ignited?
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Everything?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I think the switches. People finally are starting to understand
Jada Parker and who she is and what she represents.
And when they heard the name of Jada Parker, they
understand Oh, she's standing on business. So I'm hoping, you know,
as Parker, people are finally starting to let that click
in seq before, because if you ain't getting with it,
(04:05):
you need to get lost. If that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Really I heard that.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Now let me take you back, Jada to February this
year where you got to go compete in the Women's
Royal Rumble, you know, your first one.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
It was an awesome moment.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Talk to me about the experience of that ten nine eight, seven, six,
five four three two one. Hey Ms Parker, How did
it feel?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Man?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I can't even explain to you in words how that felt.
It was unexplainable. First of all, that journey, just even
getting that call knowing that I'll be in the rumble
was heartfelt and everything. And just when that countdown came
and I knew my name was gonna pop up on
that board, I knew it could go one or two ways,
and I was in full control of it. So I
(04:47):
just went out there with all my energy and was like,
let's go. And that was the first time the world
actually got to see Jada Parker.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
You know, the one thing, one question that I wanted
to really really know.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
You know, you got to check is to you know,
compete for the NXT Championship and you didn't win and
that was like amazing, and that the major setback. What
did that setback, dude to you? Did it motivate you
or did you know you feel like you you know,
you need to work.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
On this a little bit? What did that do for you?
Right there? No?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
No. And the reason I'm sorry and the reason why
I asked that question is so many people thought it
was your time.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Right right, and so did I at that point. But
obviously it's God's time, you know what I'm saying. So
I can't force that. But to answer your question, it
did motivate me. It motivated motivated me in more ways
than one because it made me hungry.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I went in there like trying to prove a point,
and I believe it was my time, but it wasn't.
And that's okay because Stephanie was just one step ahead
of me, and that is a okay. She was a
champ for a reason, but right now she just like
that stepback is just in time for a major comeback
because you can only pull me back so far, and
when you finally let me go, I'm going to end
(06:07):
up going past what your expectations were, you know what
I'm saying. So it made me hungry to the point
where all I have right now is this television because
I need that championship.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Well, I think what people are starting to understand about
what it is that you all do is that it's
fifty two weeks a year.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
There's no off season. It's day and it's day out.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
You got to do the live events, you got to
do the televisions, you got to have.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
The multiple segments you do in the media like it
is now.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
You know, when you were playing soccer, obviously there's a
soccer season. Then you get to rest and recuperate and
kind of enjoy the fruits of your labor for a
little bit before.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
You get back to it.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Has it been a big adjustment for you to be like, man,
there's no time off here, if I.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Can be honest. It was at first my first year,
but I realized seeing that the people that were championship
champions when I first came in, and I saw like,
if they can do it, why can't I do it?
So I was like, Okay, if I need to get
up there, I need to bite this bullet, bite this
laziness in the butt and do what I gotta do.
And it made me walk in in so many more
(07:07):
ways than one. And I fell in love with the
grind for fifty two days or fifty two weeks out
of the year, you know what I'm saying. So I
fell in love with it, and I feel like that
made me realize where I am, and it made me
have more of a passion for it because there's no
off switch, there's no off butt. So it's like, right now,
I got the same twenty four hours as everybody else,
(07:28):
but I'm going to see how far or how good
I can treat those twenty four hours and get where
I need to be before they get there. If that
makes sense.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Oh, yes, it makes a lot of sense now.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Stephen Tyler, Man, Stephen Tyler say, you got you gotta
lose to know how.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
To win, you know, that's what for sure?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
And I've lost a lot.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, seriously, that's one of my favorite quotes I remember,
and I say it all the time too. Is one
of the lines I used from the Five Heartbeats, and
and it's it's a lie.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
But but but it's not one of your favorite sayings.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
It's a lie but I like it.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Go ahead, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
It's a live because it's not real, it's a movie.
But it's something that but you can use to motivate you.
And and I and I said all the time when
I'm like doing like a TV show, and I say,
you know, a great writer, a great writer once said
Booker T is gonna be, you know, a great champion.
He's gonna he's gonna win. He's gonna win me. It's
(08:31):
gonna win many many championships. But he's gotta feel a
lot more pain, you know.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
And I go live. That's a great quote.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
And I feel like that that's you right there. You're
gonna have a great future. You're gonna win many many championships.
You're gonna you're gonna leave a legacy in this business.
And that pain that you're gonna feel, it's gonna help you.
It's gonna motivate you. It's gonna definitely take you where
you need to be. That that not winning that championship,
it's definitely gonna motivate you in ways that win no
(09:01):
way could have. So I just say encourage, I just
encourage you to just keep doing what you're doing. But
what can we expect what.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
A hard.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I love it. Though I love it, don't me.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
To keep the energy up. You know, from the beginning
of the show, did you I actually got a little scared.
What could we expect?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
You know, from Jada park This Parker, a reality of
rest and coming up at Summer of Champions.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Baby listen, man. First of all, I just want to
say thank you for allowing me to come to Summer
Champions and to show them who Jada Parker really is
because you've seen it book, You've seen it firsthand. But
now it's their turn. You know what I'm saying. But
what they can expect from Data Parker is nothing less
than they see on the television. I am dragging whoever
I need to drag to prove my point. So, like
(09:59):
I said, central Man, book, and you're gonna lose your
best hitters.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
That's how I.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Talk about it. Jada Parker, come on now, come on now, hey, Look,
we're excited to see you down here in Houston at
Reality Wrestling for Summer Champions eleven. Obviously SummerSlam going down
tonight and tomorrow night. Quick question for you. There's a
lot of women's matches on the car. There's the tag
team titles, there's the world title that has Naomi and
EO and Rhea, and then of course Tiffany Stratton, who
(10:27):
you're familiar with, and Jake Cargill. What to those are
you looking forward to seeing the most?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I can't pick. I really have no favorites out of
this because I love all the matches. I'm excited to
see all of them, and whichever one comes first on
the card, they're gonna have my full attention. But right
now I'm looking at that Naomi, EO and Rea match
because Naomi, to me, she got a point to prove
with all the doubters and the haters. But look at
her now, you know what I'm saying, and you can
(10:54):
see in her eyes she even though she a law off,
she got a point to prove, and I'm excited to
see that. I like seeing people get dragged, and I
know what she's gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
We talked about your drug inside the Hall of faby
Man Janda. We can't wait to see you here in Houston,
and I just want to thank you for stepping inside
the Hall of Fame giving us a little Champagne wishes,
look Caveyard dreams, Baby.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Of course, of course, and until next time. Man, we
appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
We love you, Okay, appreciate y'all, Thank you again.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
That's miss Parker right there, y'all I'm talking about oh man, serious, man.
I can't wait for her to come to Reality Wrestling
and
Speaker 3 (11:41):
H m hm
Hey guys, Brad Gilmour here, want to give a big
shout out to our title sponsor, Walker Texas Lawyer. If
you are a love would have been injured in an accident,
whether that be a car, truck, motorcycle accident, or some
kind of other issue. Hit up Walker Texas Lawyer at
seven one three five five to two one one one
seven or Walker Texas Lawyer dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Oh Broadcasting live from Houston, Texas and around the world
and are around the world.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
TV host, best selling author and radio personality, Brad Gilmour
brings you a collection of conversations with stars from movies.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Matthew McConaughey, Brad Gilmore, Mark wohlburg By, how are you
the legendary mister Christopher Lloyd Christopher, how are we doing?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I'm doing good?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Says Jessica Alba and Lizzie Matthis, ladies, thank you so
much for joining me.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Kevin Coster joins us, Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Thank you Television.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Jimmy Fallon joins us this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Jimmy, how you doing, my friend?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Good morning. Thank you so much Brad for having me.
I appreciate this.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
But Kelly Ripperd, thank you for having me comedy.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Jay Leno joins us, Jay, how you doing.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Hey, Brad? What's going on?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Chris Tucker is in the bill that Chris Tucker.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Good morning to you. Hey you.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
George Lopez joins us right now, George, how are you
doing so?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Good morning music?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Lola men Row, thank you, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
The legendary front man of ac DC. Brian Johnson joins
us right now, Brian, how you doing?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Good morning?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Brock what looking at joke?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Give me funny live Megan Trainer. Chloe Bailey joins us.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I appreciate the time.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Appreciate you and more and more. This is the collection,
now your host of the boat. I feel like I'm
just getting started. They tried to finish me. I'm like
the universe infinite. There's no wind in me. Yeah. This
(01:59):
is the bounce back. Watch will y'all, this is the
bounce back. You come to bounce back, Jim your rise
on him? This is the bounce back.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Oh yeah, man?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Is that a Hall of fame?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
The ESPN Radio series Except Shallow, They guys tune into
Baseball Action today as the Phillies host The Tagers, presented
by Progressive Insurance. First Pitch just after the top of
the hour, hero to the ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Guys,
(02:37):
should be some great action, man, I love that song.
Man Will smith Man take it over?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
That's what I like.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Oh, you know, speaking of you know, we got a major, major,
up and coming superstar. I'm talking about having a meteoric.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Rise here in the world of pfessional wrestling.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Guys, give it up for the one and only Miss Parker.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Jada. Oh yes, how you doing, Jada?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
What you what you ride?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
What you what you ride? Do you got the music
up or something? What's going on? You ride? You know
what I mean?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I got you, I got you on my radio right now.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
But you need to cut that radio down, all right?
What is what I need to do? What I need?
What I need is uh to talk about what's going
on with Jada Parking All of a sudden, Man, seemed.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Like you just exploded. What do you think? What do
you think?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
What's the what's the switch that I'm ignited?
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Everything?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I think the switches. People finally are starting to understand
Jada Parker and who she is and what she represents.
And when they heard the name of Jada Parker, they
understand Oh, she's standing on business. So I'm hoping, you know,
as Parker, people are finally starting to let that click
in seq before, because if you ain't getting with it,
(04:05):
you need to get lost. If that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Really I heard that.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Now let me take you back, Jada to February this
year where you got to go compete in the Women's
Royal Rumble, you know, your first one.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
It was an awesome moment.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Talk to me about the experience of that ten nine eight, seven, six,
five four three two one. Hey Ms Parker, How did
it feel?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Man?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I can't even explain to you in words how that felt.
It was unexplainable. First of all, that journey, just even
getting that call knowing that I'll be in the rumble
was heartfelt and everything. And just when that countdown came
and I knew my name was gonna pop up on
that board, I knew it could go one or two ways,
and I was in full control of it. So I
(04:47):
just went out there with all my energy and was like,
let's go. And that was the first time the world
actually got to see Jada Parker.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
You know, the one thing, one question that I wanted
to really really know.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
You know, you got to check is to you know,
compete for the NXT Championship and you didn't win and
that was like amazing, and that the major setback. What
did that setback, dude to you? Did it motivate you
or did you know you feel like you you know,
you need to work.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
On this a little bit? What did that do for you?
Right there? No?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
No. And the reason I'm sorry and the reason why
I asked that question is so many people thought it
was your time.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Right right, and so did I at that point. But
obviously it's God's time, you know what I'm saying. So
I can't force that. But to answer your question, it
did motivate me. It motivated motivated me in more ways
than one because it made me hungry.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I went in there like trying to prove a point,
and I believe it was my time, but it wasn't.
And that's okay because Stephanie was just one step ahead
of me, and that is a okay. She was a
champ for a reason, but right now she just like
that stepback is just in time for a major comeback
because you can only pull me back so far, and
when you finally let me go, I'm going to end
(06:07):
up going past what your expectations were, you know what
I'm saying. So it made me hungry to the point
where all I have right now is this television because
I need that championship.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Well, I think what people are starting to understand about
what it is that you all do is that it's
fifty two weeks a year.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
There's no off season. It's day and it's day out.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
You got to do the live events, you got to
do the televisions, you got to have.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
The multiple segments you do in the media like it
is now.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
You know, when you were playing soccer, obviously there's a
soccer season. Then you get to rest and recuperate and
kind of enjoy the fruits of your labor for a
little bit before.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
You get back to it.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Has it been a big adjustment for you to be like, man,
there's no time off here, if I.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Can be honest. It was at first my first year,
but I realized seeing that the people that were championship
champions when I first came in, and I saw like,
if they can do it, why can't I do it?
So I was like, Okay, if I need to get
up there, I need to bite this bullet, bite this
laziness in the butt and do what I gotta do.
And it made me walk in in so many more
(07:07):
ways than one. And I fell in love with the
grind for fifty two days or fifty two weeks out
of the year, you know what I'm saying. So I
fell in love with it, and I feel like that
made me realize where I am, and it made me
have more of a passion for it because there's no
off switch, there's no off butt. So it's like, right now,
I got the same twenty four hours as everybody else,
(07:28):
but I'm going to see how far or how good
I can treat those twenty four hours and get where
I need to be before they get there. If that
makes sense.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Oh, yes, it makes a lot of sense now.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Stephen Tyler, Man, Stephen Tyler say, you got you gotta
lose to know how.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
To win, you know, that's what for sure?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
And I've lost a lot.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, seriously, that's one of my favorite quotes I remember,
and I say it all the time too. Is one
of the lines I used from the Five Heartbeats, and
and it's it's a lie.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
But but but it's not one of your favorite sayings.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
It's a lie but I like it.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Go ahead, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
It's a live because it's not real, it's a movie.
But it's something that but you can use to motivate you.
And and I and I said all the time when
I'm like doing like a TV show, and I say,
you know, a great writer, a great writer once said
Booker T is gonna be, you know, a great champion.
He's gonna he's gonna win. He's gonna win me. It's
(08:31):
gonna win many many championships. But he's gotta feel a
lot more pain, you know.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
And I go live. That's a great quote.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
And I feel like that that's you right there. You're
gonna have a great future. You're gonna win many many championships.
You're gonna you're gonna leave a legacy in this business.
And that pain that you're gonna feel, it's gonna help you.
It's gonna motivate you. It's gonna definitely take you where
you need to be. That that not winning that championship,
it's definitely gonna motivate you in ways that win no
(09:01):
way could have. So I just say encourage, I just
encourage you to just keep doing what you're doing. But
what can we expect what.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
A hard.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I love it. Though I love it, don't me.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
To keep the energy up. You know, from the beginning
of the show, did you I actually got a little scared.
What could we expect?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
You know, from Jada park This Parker, a reality of
rest and coming up at Summer of Champions.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Baby listen, man. First of all, I just want to
say thank you for allowing me to come to Summer
Champions and to show them who Jada Parker really is
because you've seen it book, You've seen it firsthand. But
now it's their turn. You know what I'm saying. But
what they can expect from Data Parker is nothing less
than they see on the television. I am dragging whoever
I need to drag to prove my point. So, like
(09:59):
I said, central Man, book, and you're gonna lose your
best hitters.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
That's how I.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Talk about it. Jada Parker, come on now, come on now, hey, Look,
we're excited to see you down here in Houston at
Reality Wrestling for Summer Champions eleven. Obviously SummerSlam going down
tonight and tomorrow night. Quick question for you. There's a
lot of women's matches on the car. There's the tag
team titles, there's the world title that has Naomi and
EO and Rhea, and then of course Tiffany Stratton, who
(10:27):
you're familiar with, and Jake Cargill. What to those are
you looking forward to seeing the most?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I can't pick. I really have no favorites out of
this because I love all the matches. I'm excited to
see all of them, and whichever one comes first on
the card, they're gonna have my full attention. But right
now I'm looking at that Naomi, EO and Rea match
because Naomi, to me, she got a point to prove
with all the doubters and the haters. But look at
her now, you know what I'm saying, and you can
(10:54):
see in her eyes she even though she a law off,
she got a point to prove, and I'm excited to
see that. I like seeing people get dragged, and I
know what she's gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
We talked about your drug inside the Hall of faby
Man Janda. We can't wait to see you here in Houston,
and I just want to thank you for stepping inside
the Hall of Fame giving us a little Champagne wishes,
look Caveyard dreams, Baby.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Of course, of course, and until next time. Man, we
appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
We love you, Okay, appreciate y'all, Thank you again.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
That's miss Parker right there, y'all I'm talking about oh man, serious, man.
I can't wait for her to come to Reality Wrestling
and
Speaker 3 (11:41):
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