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August 18, 2025 13 mins
Spike Lee is an Academy Award–winning filmmaker, producer, and writer whose work has defined and challenged American cinema for over 35 years. Through his company, 40 Acres and a Mule Filmworks, he has delivered landmark films including She’s Gotta Have It, Do the Right Thing, Malcolm X, 25th Hour, Inside Man, BlacKkKlansman (Oscar: Adapted Screenplay), and Da 5 Bloods. Lee’s trademark mix of kinetic style, incisive humor, and social critique has made him a cultural force beyond film—as an author, documentarian, and longtime NYU Tisch professor. A proud Brooklynite and lifelong Knicks fan, he continues to mentor new voices and push the medium forward.
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Speaker 6 (01:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:03):
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Brian Johnson joins us right now, Brian, how you doing?

Speaker 6 (01:28):
Good morning?

Speaker 5 (01:29):
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Speaker 2 (01:33):
Chloe Bailey joins us.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
I appreciate the time, appreciate.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
You and more and more.

Speaker 6 (01:39):
This is the collection.

Speaker 5 (01:41):
Now your host of.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
The boat, I say, have they heard of aren't you?

Speaker 6 (01:54):
Bill and the Drill? And can they do the Titan?

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Though you know what, I can't do it for you.
I can't do it for you familiar with the song.
Though I'm familiar with the song. I'm familiar with the song.

Speaker 6 (02:05):
Man, you build the drills to tighten up.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Now, if you want me to do some age town
knocking the boots, I could do that for you. You're somebody
around here knocking the boots. I could sing that one
all day. But I appreciate you.

Speaker 6 (02:16):
I got love of Age Town.

Speaker 5 (02:18):
I appreciate you, Spike. You know, I.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Appreciate the conversation because I saw Highest to Lowest last night,
and I really really.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
Love you dig it. I love the movie. I love
the movie.

Speaker 6 (02:26):
Now.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
I'm a Denzel fan.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
I'm a fan of yours, so I like anything that
y'all are gonna do and.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
Put your hands on.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
But this collaboration between y'all, I feel like it was
worth the wait since Inside Man, this one felt like
it was worth the.

Speaker 6 (02:37):
Wait eighteen to nineteen years. I didn't even know it was.
I didn't even know it.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Was that the gap was that long, the passive time
had elapsed until journalists pointed it out.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, I mean, it doesn't feel like that long since
Inside Man, but I guess that it is. But this
is one that I know Denzel found. He got the
script and he sent it.

Speaker 6 (02:56):
To you going around town, so it ended up in
Denzel's hand.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
And then he you or I send it to you
and you call him and say when we.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Start instead, I got the script. It takes place in
New York. I'm saying to you, Bedex, you get it tomorrow.
And before he hung up the phone, I knew I
was doing it.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Well.

Speaker 6 (03:17):
I mean the dynamic duel fact d and Lee.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
Dn le Man. I mean we're talking.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
But and you know what, though, I wonder, like, does
it feel like there's some pressure when it's you and
Denzel because you had he Got Game and Mobeta Blues
and Malcolm X at the inside man, you know, I
saw I think it was the Black Movie Hall of
Fame just named Malcolm X their number one movie of
all time.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
So there's like a lot rolling on you.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
Yeah, that was like last week.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
I got an email about it.

Speaker 6 (03:46):
Yeah, here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Though, there's no pressure. We love each other, we respect
each other. We're doing what we love. You know, we
don't want through. Look, I know there's pressure, but our
relationship and how we work together, we're doing what we

(04:10):
love and we're.

Speaker 6 (04:12):
Like, let's go. Ha was fun.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, there's no pressure when you're having fun. The pressures
we're not having fun the reverse.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
Yeah, you know, you know, maybe it's not working like
we wanted.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
To performing on the field or in front of the camera.
You weren't about the results instead of working on.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
It and being in that moment and trying to capture
that essence in the moment.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
Yeah, no, I definitely hear you.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
And you know what, y'all do such a great job
in this movie, Denzel and you what was the conversations
about David King and bringing this guy to life? Well,
what was the collaboration process with the story y'all wanted
to tell?

Speaker 5 (04:50):
How did y'all talk about this character?

Speaker 3 (04:53):
We didn't do a lot of talking. It was there
on the page and the holes Denz and I are
going to fill in. But the the if I use
his word, my brother, the bedrocks, the foundation of this
is about morals.

Speaker 6 (05:12):
Of course, the line for the film all money ain't
good money?

Speaker 5 (05:15):
Not good money? Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
And here's the great thing that I liked about this
film is that Denzil is such a great actor that
the audience automatically to put themselves in the situation he's
going through, and so thereally ask themselves if I was,
if I was in a situation, am I going to
pay seventeen point five million dollars? My friend is a kid?

(05:44):
And the Owiden's.

Speaker 6 (05:48):
Gonna answer that for themselves.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Now, there are some people that would do that, they
have morals scruples, not other people who don't have that,
And they put their money on the corner. Yeah, well
that's for me, that's what gives us film the levity,
the breath of when you do we do what we what?

(06:13):
What Denzel does it engages the audience, and that's what
you want as a filmmaker. You want the audience to
be engaged in what you're doing.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
And there and.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
They're whipped Zel for years, but decay, decades they are
with Denzel and the trials and tribulations he goes through
any film he does.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
And also.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
On Broadway, he just had this long, great run playing
you know Othello Broadway.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, historic run, like box office crazy money run, like
critical praise run and incredible. I mean, Denzel is incredible.
But you know what when you talk about the morals
and would you do for this? And he's a Lakers fan,
you know, I'm a Rockets fan.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
You know what I know. You're a nixt guy. I'm
a Rockets guy.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Man.

Speaker 6 (07:00):
Wait a minute, wait a minute, let's back up. Let
me rub my head. The next are up three to two,
going to Houston for Game six and seven.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Hey man, it happens. It happens to the best of us.
But you know what, we're gonna do it at that.
We're gonna see each.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
Other next year. We're gonna see each other in the
finals next year. I'm already calling it. It's Knicks and
Rockets rematch next year.

Speaker 6 (07:24):
Look you guys, and you look your coach.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, I got I got great respect for your coach,
and it'll be that would be great if Uston was
out and knocks out you know. Okay, I had a rema.
But look, if we meet each other in I'll put

(07:48):
money down because you got you had your run with
my brother Elijah.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yes, sir, yes sir, and it ain't happen.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
Let's see.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
But what I want what I wanted to ask you started.
We hadn't started yet, but you know what, I feel
like we're going to be there. But when you talk
about David King, there's a there's a moment, you know,
putting yourself in the morality of the character where he
goes into his office when he's trying to figure out,
am I going to pay this for Jeffrey Wright's son,
for Kyle?

Speaker 5 (08:18):
Am I going to do it for him?

Speaker 2 (08:20):
And he's talking to He asked Jimmy, he asked James,
He asked Aretha, what to do?

Speaker 5 (08:25):
He asked Jimmy Hendrix, you know.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
And it was such a beautiful moment because he's looking
to his mentors musical mentors but also spiritual mentors of
what do I do in this moment?

Speaker 5 (08:35):
Even talking to his younger self.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
It was such a beautiful scene.

Speaker 6 (08:40):
You know what that was scripted.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
That's Denzel Wow.

Speaker 6 (08:48):
But here's the thing, though, Denzel is an ultimate actor.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
So you we surround him with those pictures of the
giants on the word and picture of himself on magazine covers. Oh,
put that grenade. There's a scene where he picks up grenade.
He says, I'm gonna blow it up. He uses what's

(09:15):
around him. That's a great actors, duke. And what the
great actors do is they make.

Speaker 6 (09:23):
The script better.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
The final scene, the rap battle, yes, between him and
a sap and the studio incredible, not in the script.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
I was gonna ask you about that. What a beautiful scene.

Speaker 6 (09:38):
I didn't know it. Athi Rackety didn't know it.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
And then in the middle of the thing doesn't start
dropping bars right.

Speaker 6 (09:50):
There with him, so they start trading. It turns into
a rap battle, and that elevate the whole That was
not script that's gonna be one of the scenes is that.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
I mean, people talk about forever from this movie, that
battle between those two.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
You felt it in the moment.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
And what I also loved is Denzel right before he
walks in that studio, he's scared by that dog.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
That dog jumps out at him.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Right and it feels but what you feel in that moment.
I did, of course I jumped back. I didn't expect it.
But what I felt for Denzel in that moment, for
David King's character, like it showed you how tense he
was inside going into this, even though he knew what
he had to do. That dog jumping out kind of
you saw the tension in the character.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
It was a beautiful moment.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
Tenement.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
In the Boogie Down Bronx, his carrying that stupid he
grew up in all of them, but the Bronx is different.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
And see, that's why you and the guy to tell
this story.

Speaker 6 (10:45):
You were like, I'm not company here like.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Something jump Well, well, this is why you were the
guy to tell this story. And I thought that y'all
did such an amazing job. Also, the score from from
Howard Drawson is so good. It's so cinematic, it's orchestral.
It gave me that the epicness of the moments.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
Oh, it's beautiful. I love this movie so much.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
If you can't tell I really did love this your friends,
I'm gonna tell everybody about it. I have a thousand
more questions about the film. But I know that you're
a busy man, so I appreciate you joining me this
morning to have a little chat about it. You're one
of the most iconic directors of all time. You've inspired
me and so many other people.

Speaker 6 (11:26):
It's ael before you just get.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
Denzel's the goat.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Denzel, Denzel and Jack, those are my two.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
I love Jack Nicholson, I love Denzel Washington. Those are
my guys. And You're You're on my rush more as well. So, Spike,
it's been a pleasure.

Speaker 6 (11:38):
Well, I hope to see you. They mean finals.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
Oh, I'm gonna find you. I'm gonna find you. You're
gonna be in the front row. I know where the
Spike leeves are.

Speaker 6 (11:46):
You know they might try to keep me out of.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
You're definitely gonna try and say, listen, Inspike, you ain't
send the course side of Houston.

Speaker 6 (11:54):
No.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
If I'm good in the garden with you, you're good
in the Toyota Center with me, we'll roll together.

Speaker 5 (11:58):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Also, last thing, the Astros Yankees.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
Look man, look man, look man. We had a good
vibe here, Spike. We don't got to bring up Ald stuff.
We don't got to bring up all stuff. Come on now,
come on down, Spike.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
I appreciate you, brother, Thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
I have a good one. I really appreciate you. Man,
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