Taron Egerton, "Smoke"

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Smoke is an American crime drama television miniseries created by Dennis Lehane, inspired by Firebug, a podcast about the crimes of arsonist John Leonard Orr. It premiered on Apple TV+ on June 27, 2025.

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Nine and Houston Tara. Thanks for us taking the time back.
Congratulations on the show. Thanks man, nice to see how
you do in I'm doing well. I'm doing well. Thanks
for asking man.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
I really really love this show good.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
From the pilot on, It's very engaging and I don't
think I've ever seen a show quite like it.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
And I wanted to.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Ask you when you get this role first and you
start going through the script and going through it with Dennis,
the creator of the show, and kind of putting together
who Dave is. When you see at the very beginning
he's a writer and he's balancing being this artist and
investigator with this aspiration of becoming a writer. What does
that inform you about this guy and how does that
start to help you figure out who the character is.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
Well, it tells me that, you know, I think that's
such an interesting question. I think Dave is a character
who in some senses doesn't really know who he is.
And I think a creative pursuit like writing, is something
you do to try and connect with who you are

(02:53):
and understand who you are and how you fit into
the world. So for me, what it tells me is
that Dave is in a sense crying out for help
in some ways.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
You know.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
I think he's as you know because you've seen it.
He does some pretty despicable things over the course of
the show, but he is also somebody completely lost. And
I think in a sense, as is the case with
the true figure that Dave is based on John Or,
I think the writing is on some level, maybe perhaps

(03:28):
a cry for help, perhaps somebody who wants to be
seen and validated, but also maybe somebody wants to be cool.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
What's interesting to me about this character as opposed to,
you know, you having the ability to play it in
a series as opposed to in a film.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
In a film, you know, you have your three acts,
you have your two hours or what have you.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah, and you've got to give a compelling character arc
within that amount of time. When you have this television series,
it kind of gives you the ability to kind of
slow play and really develop who the character is. You
do you kind of enjoy that aspect of it more
than a film or is it just different?

Speaker 5 (04:07):
Without doubt, it's one of the you know, the great
plus the great pluses of the medium of television. And
I think, you know, that's not to say that, of course,
that you can't have incredibly nuanced, complicated characters in film,
but there's something particularly interesting about, as you say, the
slow burn of not really knowing who somebody is at

(04:29):
the start of the show, and then over a period
of hours that character gradually unfurling and and seeing them
more accurately for who they are. And I think, you know,
obviously the great the great TV performances of the past,
you know, thirty Years, the Worl to Whites and the

(04:50):
Tony sopranos. You know, the joy of it is being
able to see things happen in what feels more like
real time, and you get you don't have to kind
of set your stamp with the character as economically perhaps
as you do in film. And that's a real so
as I say, real joy of the format of the medium.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Well, the show, the show is fantastic.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
The catch is fantastic for writing this sensational he captured
me from the pilot on.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
So congratulations, I'm putting together such a great series. I
can't wait for everybody to see it.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
Thank you so much, Thank you, I really appreciate it.
Thanks for your time.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Have a good one, man, cheers man