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January 31, 2025 34 mins

Recognize your own humanity and give yourself the resources you need to cultivate optimism.” - Jill Nowacki

Welcome to episode 202 of The CUInsight Experience podcast with your hosts, Randy Smith, co-founder of CUInsight.com, and Jill Nowacki, President and CEO of Humanidei.

This episode is sponsored by Trellance. Trellance is a leading technology partner for credit unions, delivering innovative technology solutions to help credit unions achieve more. With a comprehensive suite of analytics, cloud and talent solutions, the Trellance team ensures credit unions increase efficiency, manage risk, and improve member experience.

In this season Jill and I will have conversations centered around leadership, credit unions, and living our best lives. We will have some of the most respected leaders from around credit unions who we are grateful to call friends join us in the discussion from time to time too.

In this episode, you will hear us discuss the importance of optimism, especially as a leader. We unpack the differences (as well as similarities) between being optimistic and being realistic and Jill stresses why it’s so incredibly important that leaders set an example of optimism for their teams.

Not everyone is naturally inclined toward optimism, so we discuss some ways to cultivate it, and Jill highlights the importance of understanding that even though it’s crucial for leaders to model optimism, it’s important to understand that leaders are humans who have bad days as well, and we describe ways to match optimism with pessimism and find a happy medium. 

Whether you naturally lean more toward pessimism or toward optimism, this episode is one that you won’t want to miss!


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