May 22, 2024 • 58 mins
In this episode, Evan Slaughter AKA @fit2serve1 joins Nathan on the Cult of Rec podcast! Evan is a fitness influencer, content creator, pickleballer, a veteran, and he’s doing what he loves. He talks about his love for comedy and how he incorporates it into his content. He loves finding humor in any situation and it’s helped him grow after dealing with anxiety and addiction earlier in his life. They also talk about finding inspiration for creating content, the importance of being mentally and physically healthy, and the significance behind Evan's Instagram name. Enjoy!
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
03:21 Transitioning to Full-Time Content Creation
06:14 The Role of Comedy in Evan's Content
07:01 Getting into Pickleball
08:39 Making the Switch to Full-Time Creator
11:19 Using Social Media as a Job
12:44 Unwinding and Taking Breaks from Social Media
13:16 Dating Apps and Personal Life
15:33 Reflecting on Strengths and Weaknesses
18:10 Coping Strategies for Anxiety
20:09 Finding Support and Talking About Anxiety
21:33 Humor in the Military
23:27 Addressing Mental Health in the Military
24:55 Evan's Humorous Side in School
28:23 Playing Instruments and Targeted Instagram Ads
32:54 Finding Inspiration and the Concept of Originality
39:12 The Journey to Physical and Mental Health
43:21 Being Comfortable in Your Own Skin
45:55 Being Fit to Serve Others
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Episode Transcript
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What's up everybody and welcome to theCult of Recreationalism podcast.
I'm here today with Evan Slaughter, AKA atFit to Serve One.
Evan, thanks for joining us today.
Man, Nate, glad to be here, dude.
Yeah, so I wrote up a little intro and dida little bit of internet digging.
So tell me if I got it right or if there'sjust lies out there.
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So, all right.
Especially if you're audio listeners, youcan't see Evan has a mustache that rivals
Ron Swanson's.
He is a pickle baller.
It's clean, looking good today.
He is a pickle baller.
He is a fitnesser.
He has made a career as of recent makingfun of pickle ballers and influencer and
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fitnessers.
in a good way.
He's a veteran.
He is self -employed, ladies.
And if you haven't seen any of his videosonline, your friends have, or you've sent
them to your friends with the caption,this is you or this is us, they're all
good.
If you're in the fitness or pickleballspace, you've probably seen stuff that
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Evan's made.
So yeah, man, thanks for being here.
Thanks for taking the time.
So.
Yeah, man.
Glad to be here.
Thanks for asking me.
Yeah, it's funny how many people will Didit like ever since this kind of took off
for me?
I'll get like friends that I haven'ttalked to in a long time or whatever
that'll say dude Just you someone justsent me through your video.
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It's like I know that guy or my brother'seven gotten some videos Sent to him.
He's like, that's my brother How weirdthat you on that side of it and be like
dude you showed me a video and then meetthe guys like that's my brother You know
that just blows my mind, dude
The internet's a crazy place.
It's funny.
Yeah.
So like some of the bub stuff we've likemade some like pre -roll ads for YouTube
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and I know that kind of stuff and it'ssome of it's me talking and I was showing
somebody a video on my team and it poppedup.
It was like, what are we looking at?
And I was like, sorry, skip, wait the fiveseconds.
Got to hit skip.
So yeah.
Cool.
Well, yeah, Evan, like give me a littlebackground.
Like how did you get into doing whatyou're doing?
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Like.
When you grew up, did you want to be aninternet content creator?
Or how did you get here?
Gosh, when I grew up, the internet wasn'ta thing yet.
So could not have chosen this as a job asa kid.
I don't know, man.
I've always been into comedy.
You know, that's kind of my thing on here.
Like I always lead with comedy.
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It's, you know, I've done that my wholelife, whether it's just making new friends
or in any kind of social setting.
My, my go -to is comedy.
So I'm very natural with trying to makepeople laugh and having fun with it and
laughing at myself a lot.
So I definitely knew I wanted to, or Icould feel like I wanted to do something
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entertainment.
I liked being the center of attention alot as a kid.
Real smart, Alec, growing up, had a realsmart mouth, one getting in trouble in
school, that kind of stuff.
And so I think I knew, or I could, I don'tknow that I wanted to do it to this
extent, but I definitely liked theentertainment side of things.
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So I think that's kind of where, when Igot,
hired an office life and regular nine tofive stuff and just said, I'm not doing
this anymore.
It was like, all right, this feels, when Istarted making people laugh and having
success on the internet, I was like, thisis the first time I have a job where I
actually enjoy it and it doesn't feel likework.
Yeah, and I know I talked to you a littlebit when we met in Tennessee.
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What previous jobs did you have beforethis?
Wow, man.
I've done it all, brother.
No, I went to college, was studyingexercise science in college and did about
two or three years worth of college andjust, I ended up getting a job as a
personal trainer and managing a gym that afriend of mine owned in Birmingham,
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Alabama, where I'm from.
And so the reason I quit college is I waslike, I just was doing what I was planning
to do with a degree anyways at that time.
which was something with fitness.
And I just didn't like school, but youknow, shortly after that, I ended up
deciding to join the army and went intothe army.
I was in the infantry in the army, went toairborne school while I was there, was in
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a long range surveillance unit, deployedto Afghanistan, all that kind of good
stuff.
And then getting out of that in 2014,moved back to Birmingham where I became a,
got into multifamily real estate.
I was managing,
some apartment complexes and helping withrenovations and stuff.
A friend of mine got me into that and itwas a good job, but it was just, I wasn't,
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you know, it wasn't fulfilling.
Like I didn't feel like I was living outmy purpose by any means in that and ended
up switching again to operations managerof a plumbing company that was based in
Alabama and was even more miserable,right?
So.
Finally, I was also getting sober at thetime off opiates and just kind of going
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through a weird time in my life.
And so when I finally got sober, got outall that job and stuff, I was like, I'm
going to do what I love.
I'm no more like beating my head againstthe wall at an office job and being
miserable just to earn a decent paycheck.
I'm actually pursue what makes me happy.
And so started messing around on TikTokand Instagram and being deliberate about
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my comedy.
And it just took off from there.
Yeah, I think it's really cool to do withyour comedy too.
Like it is, it's a comedy, like you cantell it's out of love.
Like you're not just making fun ofpickleballers.
You can tell that you play pickleball andthese are just like the crazy things that
you guys say to each other and you pick upon them.
Yeah, if you can't laugh at yourself andwhat you enjoy, then I just don't see how
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you go through life because even thingsthat I'm passionate about, fitness and
pickleball and all that stuff, every sidehas a humor to it, right?
So, or at least in my mind it does.
So I enjoy poking fun at the lightheartedside of those things.
And so that pickleball, obviously it'slike fastest growing sport in America.
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When did you get into pickleball?
Or did you, have you been, were you anearly adopter?
Is this a recent thing?
I would say that I'm not late, but middleinto it.
I mean, old school pickle ballers will sayI'm way late, but I got into it in 2021
and I actually learned pickle ball whilein rehab, getting sober off opiates.
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And they had a little rinky dink, youknow, pickle ball court there.
And that was one of the things that wecould do in between, you know, our group
sessions stuff.
And first time I was introduced to it andloved it.
And,
was playing it so much there and then gotout and continued to play it and that's
when it kind of incorporated into mycomedy videos.
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That's I I'm super late into it, but Ilove it and it's fun and it's been
actually really cool So I my parents livein a different city, but when they come
visit my mom has gotten really into it Andshe's like kind of gotten my dad into it
But it's like I never thought I'd beplaying a sport with my mom who's in her
mid 60s and she's good.
So like Yeah So yeah, that's funny thewhat so what sports did you play growing
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up if you wanted to become a trainer likeI'm assuming you were?
athletic growing up.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I did love baseball,played a bunch of baseball.
I wrestled one year, I did one year offootball.
I kind of quit sports in high school justbecause I became disinterested.
I went to a pretty big high school inAlabama, Hoover High School.
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We had a really big football program,really big in sports and it just wasn't
fun for me anymore at that level.
I was...
too interested in partying and goofing offand hanging with my buddies.
I also rode a lot of motorcycles and dirtbikes.
So I was doing that a lot.
I liked my free time.
And so, but you know, baseball, little bitof football, little bit of wrestling.
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Cool.
What a...
So, and then, obviously from there, whendid you, so, and I asked you a little bit
about this at camp where we met, but like,what actually prompted the switch from, I
don't know, was it the plumbing job thatyou were at to full -time creator?
And like, when were you comfortable, orwere you comfortable making that jump?
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Yeah, you know, that's like I was saying,man, it was a weird time in my life.
I was, you know, getting sober offopiates.
So I had an issue with opiates just kindof, you know, in my early twenties.
And we've got addiction, you know, issuesin my family a little bit with my dad
who's now sober.
So it's kind of runs in the family style.
But the only thing for me that ever was astruggle were opiates.
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And so I'd struggled a little bit.
early 20s and then joined the military,was in the military doing well and then
injured in Afghanistan and when I gotinjured in Afghanistan well guess what
followed you know were prescription painpills and so by the time I got out of the
military I carried with me a pretty badopiate addiction and so I fought you know
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getting sober and going back to it andtrying to get sober and going back to it
so then finally go into a three -monthrehab program.
middle of 2021 is where I decided, youknow, I was able to finally kick it and
move on.
And so during that time, it was like, Iwas so miserable in those jobs that I was
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doing just because I was not happy.
I mean, I had come from a, you know, beingin the army and the infantry, very high
speed unit, deployed to Afghanistan, allthis stuff to like an office job setting.
And it just, it was miserable.
So fortunately for me though,
I had owned a home and was able to sellit.
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It was in 2022, real estate markets doinggreat, especially for selling homes at
that time.
So had no problem selling the house andwas able to take that money, pay off any
debt I have, get back on my feet.
And I had a little bit of time from thesale of that house where it's like, all
right, I don't have to just go find a jobright now.
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You know, I can, I've got enough money topursue something else.
And so simultaneously it was like, I justenjoy doing comedy stuff, man.
It wasn't even, it wasn't what theintention of it becoming something that I
would monetize at the time.
It was just something I enjoyed doing.
And then when it started to have successand I started doing stuff around
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pickleball and CrossFit and all the thingsthat I was getting interested in, cause
I...
gained a bunch of weight after gettingsober off opiates.
I'd found comfort in food and so I'dgained this weight and now I'm trying to
lose weight again.
I just started doing comedy stuff aroundthat and it was from that where the
companies started reaching out, wanting meto work with them, market this, do this
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pickleball paddle, do this CrossFit stuff.
And that's when I learned about how toreally monetize your social media stuff.
Yeah, so a lot of people use social mediato unwind.
What do you do?
Are you on Instagram and TikTok late intothe night?
Or like, do you read, are you game, orwhat do you do to unwind?
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You know, that's a good question becauseI'm like, I used to use social media to
unwind and now it's very much a job forme.
So it's like when I look at content now,especially watch other content, just
scroll through Instagram, scroll throughTikTok.
I'm always watching it like.
Ooh, maybe I should do a version likemaybe I could take this concept and spin
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it in my and it just is so stressful andit feels like work, you know?
I mean, not stressful in a bad way.
It's just like, I can't turn that offwhere I can just, it's hard to turn it off
and just enjoy social media content.
So I definitely try to find other things.
Yeah, I've got some shows I like to watchat night, comedy stuff, but really just
being active again, you know, going outand playing pickleball because I make so
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much pickleball content.
Sometimes I don't get to play as much asyou would think.
So like getting just to go play pickleballor just going to work out or going on a
walk around where I live and all thosethings, getting outside is huge.
Being on my phone, making content, I haveto take a break from that.
I have to get outside and unplug.
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So that's probably the best way I know howto just unwind is just go outside.
That's, I think more people needed to hearthat.
Yeah, it's funny.
The, I, I can't remember who said it, butthey're like, if you love what you do,
you, you'll never work a day.
He's like, no, that's a lie.
Like if you love what you do, you'realways kind of working.
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like you, you're always looking forinspiration here.
Like,
I love that, yeah, that's true.
so cool.
I had a few, I just had some fun.
Honestly, so for questions, are you ondating apps?
Never been on a dating app dude.
That's one thing.
I don't knock them.
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But most of my friends are whatever.
I just haven't ever done it.
that good for you, but like the one I didactually, I hate them.
It sucks.
I'd rather meet someone in person.
It's just hard when you're in your midthirties to like.
everybody, they use the internet foreverything now, right?
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It's like, it's, yeah, it's the way you dothings now.
But I did go through and I was like, whatare like, like for interviews and stuff
there, some of them have like promptswhere it's like, you put like two truths
and a lie about yourself.
So I went through and like stole some ofthose and so we can get to know Evan a
little bit better.
So Evan, the person and not Evan, thefitness influencer.
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So first this was what did your parents orwhen you were growing up, if you're
getting punished, how did your parentspunish you growing up?
I was spanked, brother.
I'm from that spanked generation and proudof it.
Yeah, the grounding didn't work very well.
I mean, sometimes we get grounded, havethings taken away.
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You can't ride your dirt bike, can't dothis, but it was always spanked until I
was too old to spank, right?
I was in there too and I remember therewas a certain time like my dad spanked me
and I turned around like that didn't hurt.
That was...
way dude.
That's when they knew like can't spankthem anymore.
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That's so funny.
It turned into like, as I got older, my,my parents, they made me do pushups and it
was like stupid little things.
I was like, I was always like good atmath.
And then at one point I was just missingthese really easy questions.
And it was like a family friend was mysixth grade teacher.
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And so they're like, and I think she toldhim, she's like, Hey, he's just not
checking his work.
And.
So anyways, my dad, he sits me down, he'slike, so here's what's gonna happen.
You're gonna bring your math homework homeand I'm gonna check it.
I'm gonna tell you how many you got wrong.
You owe me 10 pushups for every problemyou get wrong.
And then we're gonna repeat that processuntil he's like, I'm not gonna tell you
what the answer is.
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But in sixth grade, I was doing like 80pushups at night.
Like, just something stupid.
Yeah.
So what would you say is your greateststrength?
Ooh, my greatest strength, I would say, isto find humor in places where you, you
know, in anything.
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Find humor in anything.
I mean, I can be, I look at it as astrength for sure.
For example, just like being deployed andbeing with guys in the military and you're
overseas and you're in a combat zone andthen being able to laugh and still find
humor and bring humor to the group.
And, you know, I would say that's probablymy best strength.
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I'd say mine's my calves.
I say you got some big calves.
Cows, they're also not giving up.
You know, I'm pretty resilient when itcomes to things, overcome a lot and not
giving up.
So it's between those two, I guess.
Yeah, those are good ones.
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What would you say is your biggestweakness then?
God.
Finding a weakness, you know, no, no, noweakness.
is I would say that anxiety.
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Anxiety is something I've always struggledwith.
My mom can have pretty high anxiety, so Ithink I get it from her.
I have to not worry so much, right?
I used to worry about everything.
It would drive me crazy, dude.
And I think that as I'm matured and asI've just kind of learned some things and
experienced different things, the anxietygets better.
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But it's definitely something I have tostay on top of and be aware of and know
like, hey,
It's okay.
I was dealing with a situation this weekwhere it was tough.
I was doing this deal with a group and Iwas really excited about it and then it
turns out that I wasn't gonna be able todo the deal because it was a conflict with
another group that I'm already with, youknow?
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And I didn't realize that and it was justlike the anxiety I had over just having to
have that conversation drove me crazyuntil I was finally, I was like, you know
what?
The only thing I can do here is just beupfront and honest about this.
You know, and go to them and say, hey, Imessed up here.
You know, I shouldn't have committed tothis yet without doing a little bit more
research, blah, blah, blah.
And I did that and guess what?
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It turned out fine, right?
And so for like four days when I knew Ihad to do this, I'm just sitting there
sweating it, you know?
And so I think I let anxiety bring me downway too much.
What do you do to combat that?
For me, I...
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But for me, big conversations like thatare like, I hate them.
I'll do the thing where I lay in bed, Iknow in the morning I have to have a tough
conversation with someone, whatever it is,and I'll just stare at the ceiling and
then finally someone's like, just write itdown so it gets out of your head.
you know how it is, like if it's therapyor whatever, you talk to somebody and you
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just, it just felt good to like get thatoff my chest.
And I found that writing it down actuallyworked for me, so.
That's a great suggestion.
You know, what I have started to do, and Idon't know if this is a solution or just
something I've started doing, but like Iused to rely on like in that situation
where I'm feeling anxious about something,I would rely on someone else to make me
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not feel anxious about it.
And by what I mean by that is like I wouldgo to someone with the problem and
hopefully hear from them like, man, don'tworry about that.
You know, this is blah, blah, blah.
And hear what I wanted them to tell me.
But then I found out from doing that, I'vetaken the problem to other people before
and then they're more anxious about itthan I am and it only makes things way
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worse.
You know, and it's like, this isn't,you're frustrating me.
You know, like this isn't what I neededyou to tell me to hear.
And so what I've learned from that is Igotta stop relying on that.
Like you be the one, like you be the oneto handle this.
This is your deal.
You know, going to someone else is justgonna make this worse about it.
Just handle it.
Like just be honest, right?
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Lead with honesty and be honest about itand the outcome is the outcome, you know?
Who is your support like not to you don'twant to like spread anxiety onto someone
like that but like is it a family memberis it a friend like give it who do you who
do you go to for stuff like that?
My manager, Lisa, she's great.
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But I found out too that especially in asituation like this where she's involved
and it's like, I had to tell her like,guess what?
We can't do this, you know?
And then she gets just as anxious about itas I am because she's directly involved in
it.
You know, that's kind of the situation Iwas referencing there, but she's great,
man.
Like, just a life coach and just helps metalk through things and have someone I can
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go to and say, hey, this is, you know,just a support system.
Mm -hmm, yeah.
That's cool.
It's weird, I feel like people have gottenmore open about talking about anxiety and
things that make them anxious over thelast, really since COVID.
Yeah, yeah.
We come from a generation where that's notnormal, right?
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Like our parents, I know my parents werethat way.
It's just like, if there was a problem,don't talk about it.
You know, it's like, that's the worstsolution, you know, like, let's talk about
it.
Let's get it out there.
And I'm glad that we're headed thatdirection and where we're at now, because
it's definitely something that needs to benormalized, like in a healthy way.
Like if you got an issue, you know, yeah,talk about it with somebody.
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When you were in the military, becauseobviously this is before all of that, did
you have any issues with that?
You're in the military, you've got to berough and tough.
Did you have to deal with anything likethat there?
Yeah, for sure, man.
It's, you know, the military, no, no, no,it's great stuff.
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It's the military, you know, from it'salways changing, right?
They're always dealing with differentthings.
And there's also different branches of themilitary.
There's different jobs within themilitary.
So at the time that I was in the army, Iwas in what's called a combat MOS combat
job.
MOS is military occupation specialty.
So like,
When you join, everybody gets an MOS.
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You could be truck driver, you could be acook, you could be infantry like I was.
Well, I was infantry, that's considered acombat MOS.
And it was all male at the time.
I think now you can join the infantry as afemale.
So it's all male at the time.
So yeah, it's very much that environment,right?
Now, the government does a good job aboutchecking boxes, you know?
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Like...
If you want to kill yourself, here's whatyou do.
You know, it's like they've got a step foreverything.
It's just all bullshit.
I mean, it's all, you know, it's allthey're just making sure they do their job
to, you know, but so yeah, there wasdefinitely some of that.
You know, one of the things that I had todeal with directly was when I came back
from Afghanistan and was put on all theseprescription pain pills that, you know,
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they were giving me and I was abusing thembecause I have a problem with opiates.
I had to get to a point where I had to behonest with my leadership about that, you
know, and that was one of the scariestthings I've ever done because how do you
approach, you know, your platoon sergeantthat you deployed with and tell them that
you have a problem, you know, with takingthese pills because they just can't
comprehend that.
Like, well, just stop.
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Like, let's, yeah, stop being a baby aboutit.
And, you know, it's like, so definitelywent through some of that, but like, like
we were just saying, I think it's changingand hopefully even changing in
environments like that as well.
Yeah, no, it's not the just keep yourfeelings, push them down.
They're going to go so deep down and thenone day it's just going to all explode
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out.
The feelings volcano.
that's funny.
Do you, so when you were in the military,like you said, you always like to find
humor in any situations.
Like were you that guy in your platoon orlike, and I feel like just meeting you and
hanging out with you.
for the little bit we did that week.
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It was like, man, there was always likesomething like, someone's walking weird or
like whatever it is, like just somethinglike where we can all laugh at ourselves.
Like, I feel like you were probably thatguy.
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, I definitely was.
What's funny about the military is there'sa lot of me in that, you know, especially
in the infantry.
There's a lot of guys like me.
Some of the funniest people I've ever metin my life are military guys.
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I guess it's either just the sense ofhumor we all have together, you know.
We all kind of get it.
We're all kind of on the same page aboutthe humor.
I would say that, yeah, I was definitelyone of the funny ones on our team.
I was definitely one of the top onesmaking us laugh, but there's definitely
another dude right there with me namedJesse, and he was just as funny or funnier
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in my mind, you know?
So it's cool that you see that and youget, you know, who you meet and who you
interact with.
But I'd definitely say I was definitelyone of them for sure, cracking everybody
up.
Were you that class clown in high schooland junior high and all that too?
100%.
Yeah, for sure.
So much so that it was like a problem,right?
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Like I got in trouble a lot for, you know,running my mouth or talking or making
inappropriate jokes when I wasn't supposedto be making a joke or whatever.
So for sure.
What do you have like any funny storiesabout that?
Like, Evan's in the principal's officeagain because, and the parents are like,
what?
Yeah.
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So there was in middle school, I think Iwas eighth grade, my math teacher was the
mom of a lady named Heather Whitestone.
And at the time Heather Whitestone, shewas Miss Alabama, I think.
And she was also hearing impaired.
So she was like, it was really coolthings.
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She's just, you know, hearing impaired,Miss Alabama.
Her mom happens to be my math teacher.
And no offense to her, but man, I did notlike her mom.
I mean, she was, she must not have likedme either.
She was just much older and just, youknow, kind of mean in my opinion.
But there was this Halloween, it was rightaround Halloween time and right now we're
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getting these, someone's throwing aHalloween party and it's, they passed out
these invitations to people in our groupand I'm looking at the invitation, right,
in math class, okay?
Well.
She teacher comes over, takes theinvitation up and she's trying to be all
funny, you know.
Halloween party, is it a costume party?
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Do I have to, she's trying to embarrassme, right?
Do I have to wear a costume?
And I go, no.
And she goes, why is that?
I go, cause you've already got one on.
And basically I was like referring to herbeing a witch, right?
And I went right to the principal'soffice.
But little things like that, man.
I just couldn't help it, you know.
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huh.
I mean, I feel like if I was your parents,like, I mean, that's a good burn.
Like...
Don't try to embarrass me, lady.
Because she was straight trying tohumiliate me for reading this invitation
in class.
That's funny.
Some of the like, I've got the gym that Iown, I've got a couple, I've got a bunch
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of teachers that work out there.
We're right by like a big school district.
And one, he's actually one of my coaches,Ryan, he teaches elementary PE.
And it's like, every time he comes in,it's like, Ryan, how many times you get
flipped off today?
He's like, just twice.
Like.
I could not do that man that being ateacher of any sorts would it would drive
me crazy, dude
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huh.
Yeah, that's my brother's a band teacherand like it's I feel like if you're in
band you're like, okay, you're kind oflike driven and stuff.
But so I don't think he has a ton oftroublemakers, but I was definitely.
a band member in high school.
Super successful now.
Typical, you know, typical band memberstory.
Does he still play the clarinet?
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You know what?
He was, he did play the clarinet in highschool.
But when you said that, I was like, do youknow my brother, dude?
He was third chair clarinet.
And I don't know what chair he was, but hedid play the clarinet.
I don't think he's played it since highschool.
I don't think his wife would want himbreaking out the clarinet.
She just comes home one day and he's justover there and is like, I thought I'm
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gonna pick it back up.
Yeah.
Do you play any instruments?
I play the acoustic guitar some now.
I mean, I took some lessons growing up alittle bit, kind of dabbled in and out of
it.
You know, it was hard for me to stay intosomething, but I've since picked it back
up and just kind of the same way with itnow.
I mean, I'm not great, but I candefinitely like look at songs, look at
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major chords and play pretty simple stuffon it.
So I enjoy doing that for sure.
Yeah, that was I played piano as a kid.
It was like my parents made me takelessons.
And it's one of those like, man, I reallywish that like I had stuck with like when
you're a kid, it's like you just want todo what your friends are like, no, I want
to take karate.
That's what all my friends are doing.
I'm over here learning the piano.
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So cool.
I want to go.
Let's go back to Instagram stuff a littlebit, because I know you create content on
there.
You work with companies.
Have you ever bought anything from atargeted Instagram ad?
Ooh, man, you know, definitely yes.
You know what I want right now?
That's targeted Instagram ad of Vestaboard.
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Have you seen the Vesta boards?
You're going to look it up and you'regoing to want one, but they're $3 ,500 and
I couldn't manage to get one as aninfluencer.
Like it was like, you know, sometimesevery now and I'll see something I really
want and Lisa she'll.
reach out and just see if we can get one,you know, and see if we can exchange some
content for it, which a lot of time wecan't.
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And they just weren't taking, I thinkthere's an application you can fill out
now, where as an influencer, you can tryto get one, but they're just so popular
now.
But it's this cool, like at a trainstation, you're looking at it now with the
word, dude, you can like program it fromyour phone.
to say all these different things and itflips.
Brrrr
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pulling the trigger, but $3 ,500 seems alittle steep.
Yeah, no, I've seen these before.
I didn't remember that it was called this,but I remember seeing this like, that is
so cool.
And then immediately seeing the price taglike, nope.
I know, and you're like, damn, makes sensethough that it would be that much.
Like something that cool.
Of course it's going to be something Ican't afford right now.
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Yeah, the I remember like when it was likeearly on when people like like, yeah, like
our phones are always listening to us andand so we were talking about it and my
friend Taylor, I had seen him in themorning and then I saw him again that
evening and he's like, yeah, like over mylunch break, I'm going to go get some new
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running boards for her.
Yeah, like new like steps basically for myforerunner.
And I was like, cool.
And then like,
An hour later, I open up Instagram and I'mgetting ads for running boards for a
forerunner.
I don't own a forerunner.
Yeah, that's wild.
Yeah, I used to think that was all BS tooand people would say that but now it's
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apparent, it's obvious that, you know,they're able to do that and like be that
specific with ads or anything.
Yeah, it's crazy, dude.
Yeah, so yeah, now the only thing I canremember that I've bought from an
Instagram ad was a slackline.
Okay.
Do you slackline often?
Nope.
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I did when I got it.
I had done, I had a friend, or one of myroommates in college had one, and like, I
got okay at it.
He was really good at it.
He like studied abroad and they did it allthe time wherever he was.
And, and I got like pretty good at it, butlike, it's probably in that closet back
there now or something.
So around the garage.
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So yeah.
That's something I've never tried,slacklining.
It wasn't as, I guess not easy, but it'slike if you have like a decent level of
balance, and I had a good teacher I think,and he's like, you wanna stare right where
the line hits, if it's between two trees,you wanna stare right where it meets the
tree, because he's like, it's gonna movelike this, except for where it's touching
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the tree, like that's not moving.
So if you step there, that's your middle.
Yeah.
When you're making skits, do you, like,
Where do you find inspiration from?
And we kind of talked about this a littlebit, but like is it in the moment?
Like hold on.
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I gotta go write that down Or is it seeingother things other people have created and
you're like, I want to make my version ofthat
So it's a little bit of everything, youknow, like I try to keep it as organic and
as original as possible I think about likejust scenarios like I guess that's just
how I view the world through my lens,right?
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Like I put a comedic spin on basicallyeverything that I look at it sometimes to
where it's like I have to turn it off andbe like no, this is not a time to be
funny, you know, you know, and I have tokind of kind of
Gauge it some but I would definitely sayit comes from a lot of different places
You know, I'm very much one a lot ofpeople do things different ways and I
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don't know if this is the right way to doit or not This is how I've done it But
usually for like like I have a contentcalendar right that I'm making content for
all these different brands all thesedifferent deliverables I've got to make
For the month, right and I really don'tEven think of the concept for the video
that I've got to make until that
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So it's like now sometimes I'll have if agood idea comes up I put it in a notes on
my phone or I write it down somewhere I'vegot it saved and I come back and revisit
it and see if it is a good fit But when itcomes to actually making the video, I
don't do it until the day of most of thetime Because I feel like I'm more creative
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that way It's like I have to be in a moodto go out and do this takes a lot of
energy It takes a lot of you know, likeyou can't be
It's hard to be depressed or angry orupset or hungry or tired or whatever it is
and then go out and put this energy into acomedy skit.
So I kind of create based off how I'mfeeling that day.
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Now watching social media sometimesdefinitely helps and gives inspo.
You see a lot of cool trend stuff and I'vedefinitely done my version of trends but I
really like to be a trendsetter a lot andI've always been that way man whether it's
with the clothes I wear or the style, youknow.
I really try to do my own thing.
I just like that.
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But it's always helpful to pullinspiration from other places.
Someone told me, I forgot how this goes,but it was in reference to music.
And I heard this from a really goodmusician one time.
He's a friend of mine, really talentedguy, really intelligent guy.
And he was saying, and he's like, and thisreally pisses me off.
Not me, but this is what he said.
He said, this really pisses me off.
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He said, someone told me one time thatthere's no original song.
And I was like, huh, and I thought aboutthat for a second, and I'm probably
misquoting this song, but what he meansbasically is like ever since music's been
created or notes or since the man of time,right, we're all just taking our version
of that note and the chords and how it'sput into a song and remixing what's
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already been created, right?
So I try to, I think of that sometimeswith comedy and everything, and I think,
well,
I like that, that takes some of thepressure off because it's just my spin on
comedy, right?
And what's already being done.
Now that comes out in a very organic andoriginal way that hasn't maybe been done
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in that order before, done in that waybefore, but when it comes down to it,
we're all just doing our version of what'salready out there.
Yeah, that's the, I've heard like the,that's like the music specific version,
but I've also heard like the, just theidea of like original thoughts, like how
hard it is to like, yeah, like it's allinspired by something that you saw, even
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if you don't remember seeing it, it's inyour subconscious.
And so, yeah, that's, yeah.
And then.
sometimes, but there's truth to it, Ithink, for sure, right?
Yeah, but it's funny too.
Musk, he might be the only exception.
Yeah, it's funny too, because you talkabout...
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Okay, so original thought, like in yourpickleball video where you're like, back
me up, Brenda.
And it's like, that wasn't actually afunny thing.
That was just someone said, back me up,Brenda.
And you're like, if I say that in a funnyway or like just things like that.
Yeah, it's like, you know, the couplethat's yelling at each other on, you know,
they've been married forever and they'reyelling at each other about, you know,
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that's why a lot of people don't place, dosports with their significant other,
right?
It's just that whole idea of, and thenlike taking people's names, Donna, Beth,
Cheryl, you know, there's just funniernames.
Cheryl.
Nice, dude.
It's funny when we're do you call yourparents mom or dad when you're out in
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public with them?
I go back and forth.
So my parents' names are Harry and Janie.
And so sometimes I'll do that until oneday, like one of my mom's friends, she
always heard me calling her Janie or whenI would talk about my dad, I'd call him
Harry.
And they just thought I was doing thatbecause I had a bad relationship with
them.
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And I was like, no, it's just, that's myversion of dad and, you know, because my
friends would call him that growing up andeverything.
And...
So I always just saw it as a term ofendearment.
So, but you know, now that they're older,I try to, I say older, if they listen to
this, my mom would kill me, but they're intheir sixties, right?
So I try to mom and dad a little bit more,but I've always, I've always seen it as a
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term of endearment whenever I call themHarry or Jamie.
Yeah, I think it's funny.
I call mom and dad all the time.
But then if we're in a grocery store andlike and I'm down and she's like, my mom
will see me to go get something and like,wait, what?
And like, hey, Cheryl, like that's whenI'll do it because I realized at a young
age, if I say mom, every mom turns andfaces you in the middle of that.
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So now that's funny.
The yeah.
Dang.
OK, this one.
is another question.
Give me your thoughts on shirts.
like.
Where like, you're, a lot of people arenot comfortable taking their shirt off and
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you seem very comfortable taking yourshirt off.
Is.
probably.
Yeah, you know, I don't know, man.
It was a big thing for me, like, because Igained all this weight.
Like, I'm currently down 70 pounds, Ithink, since October last year.
I appreciate it.
And what's crazy about that is that formost of my life, I've definitely been in
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shape more than I've been out of shape,but it was just like a thing that happened
when I got so brophopoeic.
It was just...
Started finding comfort in food in anunhealthy way.
Like I was making all this content.
I put exercise and fitness on the backburner I was focused on content and then
at night I would just eat man.
That was my thing I was that was my cyclefor a while that you know, I would eat and
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I still drink alcohol as well Never been aproblem for me there.
And and so I would eat and then some someweekends I would drink, you know, whatever
and I'm just put taking in all thesecalories, right?
and not exercising because I was puttingall this energy and focus into comedy.
And so the whole, you know, I just decidedat the same time when I started making,
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you know, pouring myself into socialmedia, I'd done a lot of healing mentally
from the opiate stuff and had gone througha divorce at the same time.
Just really, just had a lot of healing todo.
And that's when I decided I was going tolook at life differently.
And I had this new perspective on life.
And one of the biggest things is I used toalways just, like many of us do struggle
with confidence, struggle with how peopleperceive me, whether it's physically or do
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they find me funny or do they find mecool, whatever it is, we all struggle with
that in some kind of way.
And I just kind of simultaneously whileI'm making this, well, I'm gotten off the
opiates and all this stuff, I'm makingcomedy things, I'm finally enjoying life
and at a place where I'm mentally healthyfor the first time in a long time.
truly mentally healthy, along with thatcame this renewed confidence where I just,
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you know, I quit caring what other peoplethought of me.
I quit caring how other, focusing so muchon how people perceived me and how they
saw me and it was so freeing for me totake my shirt off and not be your typical
Instagram model and not be your typical,you know, ripped abs and people are so
afraid of that.
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It's like, man, I don't care anymore.
what you think, you know, I like me forme, I like who I am.
And so I just was taking it off and Ididn't, you know, doing a lot of videos
with my shirt off and that was kind ofpart of my deal for a little bit and some
of the videos I got, you know, so much sothat when people would come up or say
something and hey, I love your content,whatever they would say, I almost didn't
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recognize you with a shirt on, right?
And so it, but it was also cool because Iwas getting a bunch of messages from
people that.
We're saying, hey man, I know this iscomedy routine, I know this is blah, blah,
but you're really helping me.
You know, I struggle with confidence.
I struggle going to the gym because Idon't look a certain way.
I struggle with doing this.
I struggle with doing that and justwatching you and how you perceive things
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and take things and don't care what otherpeople say about you and all that kind of
stuff is really helping me.
So when I was getting those messages, Iwas like, so there's a purpose to this.
You know, this is helping people.
I'm not going to back off from this justbecause, you know,
I'm gonna continue to pour into this kindof thing.
And I did, and it was helping, what peopledon't realize is it was helping me too.
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Because I was in a place where I wastrying to build my confidence back up and
like I said, I was so freeing, so it waslike empowering, you know, to go out there
and then have videos go viral.
Like my most viral video, over 16 millionviews, was in a place where I was not in
great shape.
I was at that mark where I was about...
Maybe back then when I did it, maybe 60pounds heavier than I am now.
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I think I wasn't at my heaviest there, butI was close to it.
It's me pushing a lawnmower with my shirtoff, you know, and like over 16 million
views.
So people see that, you know, it's beenviewed a lot.
And so, and I don't even think of it thatway, right?
I just got and did my thing and it was,and it was, but it was cool.
It was freeing.
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And so now it's almost like as I get backin shape, it's like I can't pull that off
anymore.
It's like I have to start wearing a shirtnow because it's not going to be as funny.
So I'm trying to find that line, but atthe end of the day, man, I don't care, you
know?
No man, when I first saw it, I was like,this guy gets it, like fuck yes.
Like this guy, like yeah, I was like, thisis awesome.
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But okay, so for you said it's like beingmentally healthy, and then there's also
clearly like being physically healthy.
Do you find there, like, like, okay, letme take two steps back.
You're talking about like being in a goodplace when you go to make a video.
Do you go like work out earlier in themorning to like physically put yourself in
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a good spot or do you do anything to likementally put you in a good spot when you
do that?
Man, that's an excellent question, becausethat's something I think about a lot.
And I know other creators that purposelymake sure that they work out before they
go create.
And there's definitely something to that.
Sometimes I get stuck because my focus isso much on, I want to make, you know, I've
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got all this content to knock out, right?
It's kind of like I look at it like work alittle bit.
I mean, I should look at it like work, butas I do more stuff with brands, you know,
it's...
It's like, yeah, I enjoy what I do.
I love what I do.
But sometimes there's some of it that'sactual work that isn't as fun, right?
So that can be pretty stressful.
And it's like, I get so focused, laserfocused in on getting that done for the
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day.
You know, if I have to go do a pickleballthing, I've got to go to a court during a
time during the week when no one's goingto be there because pickleball courts are
slammed right now.
So I got to go in the morning or I got togo during a week there.
I got to, but what I, what I,
I always feel like I do create better if Ihave exercised first.
Like it gets my mind going, it gets myendorphins going.
So one of the things that I've been tryingto do a better job of is waking up earlier
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if I have to just to make sure I go aheadand prioritize fitness, prioritize working
out and it makes it easier for me to goout and create.
You know, I don't have to think aboutlike, well crap, I still got to work out
at the end of the day or I get done withall this content stuff for the day and now
I'm too tired to go work out or you know,so.
I think that's something that I've got todo a better job of prioritizing because it
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definitely does help me to have exercisefirst.
Are you more creative in the morning orthe evenings or middle of the day?
Golly, so,
I would say.
or mid morning, you know, 10 a to noon.
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And then again, I can get creative lateafternoon, four to six, something like
that.
And that's when I kind of have to like, Ithink in the later part of the day is
whenever I do a lot more of my like, if Icome up with an idea or I'm thinking of
something, I do more writing then I'll putmore stuff in my phone and try to plan for
things.
Sometimes I like something so much that Igotta go create it now and I wanna shoot
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it now.
Because I know how I want it to look and Iknow how I want it to come out and I want
to do it now, right?
But I think mid -morning after I've wokenup some, had coffee, done whatever, I feel
pretty creative then.
And then again, I get a little spark lateafternoon where I feel that way again.
Yeah.
When do you like, so that's when you liketo be creative or when you naturally are
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creative.
Do you have a time when you're naturallylike, like I around 2 p is when I'm like
ready to go work out.
Do you have a time like that?
Yeah, I mean, like for me, because usuallyI'm usually a mid morning exercise guy.
That's the problem because I don't usuallylike working out real early, right?
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I like to take my time when I get up.
I like to wake up, have coffee, messaround on my phone, you know, whatever I
got to do, get going a little bit.
Sometimes it takes me a little too long toget going, I think.
And then I feel like being creative,right?
Because now the day's going on and it'slike, all right, I got...
little bit of time where I need to getthis done.
If I have to go to this park to shootsomething, it's not going to be high
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traffic at the time.
I can go do it now.
And that conflicts with when I like towork out.
But I'm at a place now in life whereworking out is going to happen for me,
right?
Like, whereas this time last year orwhatever, I would have put it off and
that's how I was gaining all that weight.
But now because I've lost all this weightagain and I'm feeling good physically and
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I'm starting to, you know,
make some serious healthy changes,physical fitness is definitely like, it's
gonna happen.
And it's just, did it happen when I wantto in the mid morning or am I having to
squeeze it in before the nighttime?
So ideally like to do it mid morning, butif I gotta get in, like I still haven't
worked out today.
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So I've got this evening, I'm gonna haveto run, I'm gonna have to do something
just so I get it in, right?
But ideally I'm trying to do it midmorning.
Do you have any fitness goals right now,anything you're working towards?
yeah, I mean, so I'm down 70 pounds andthis is what's crazy because I'm really
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about I'm not a tall dude, right?
I'm 5 '5".
Okay, a lot of people don't realize thatwhich blows my mind too because I get that
a lot too like, dang, you're shorter thanI thought.
I was like, I mean, I get it.
It's hard to tell how tall someone is on avideo, but I'm standing in my kitchen next
to my refrigerator like...
You should be able to put two and twotogether that I'm barely seeing above the
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ice maker.
No, so, yeah, yeah.
I'm on tippy toes reaching the top shelfof my, yeah.
So, I mean, when I was at my heaviest, Ithink I was 280 and that's a five, five
frame.
I mean, that's heavy, bro.
Now I think I weighed in the other day at213 something, 213 and a half.
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Hell yeah.
I'm trying to get to 180, you know, 175,180.
So that would be my goal right now is justto continue to drop weight till I'm like a
healthy 175, 180.
Okay, that's the, it's so funny too,because like the, I own a gym and stuff,
and the amount of people who they, how doI say this?
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Like if it's someone who's a member of mygym, and like, hey, my friend is
interested in joining, and I talk to him,like I'll hop on the phone, and they're
like, yeah, I feel like I need to get inshape before I come in, and it's like, no,
you don't, like that's the whole point ofcoming in, and it's like, and you don't,
like just start.
But.
and that was a big thing because one ofthe reasons, I'm actually really grateful
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for the weight gain that I had because itgave me a lot of perspective from where
people who are overweight, how they feel.
I mean, I was obese at 280, 155, that'sobesity.
So I know what that feels like and I knowthe struggles that come along with that.
now and I know how it makes you feel, howyou have no energy, how you're
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embarrassed.
You can be embarrassed easily about howyou look.
I mean, I am very comfortable in a gymenvironment, have been all my life, was in
the Army infantry, went to Special Forcesselection, went to, did all these
different things, right?
And, but yet, when I gained all thatweight, I was super timid about going to
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the gym.
So I, you know, a lot of these littlefunny workout videos I was doing, I was
just doing in a park or a tennis court orwherever by myself where no one was
around, but at least I was out moving,right?
So it's like, I understand, like, yes,build up the confidence and just say,
screw it and get to a place where you'rejust like, I don't care about what other
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people think of me.
I care about me and I want to improvephysically.
So I'm going to go to the gym.
But at the same time, I know how that.
feels big time, especially when I was thatweight trying to get into CrossFit.
I mean, dude, I could barely, the warmupwas kicking my ass, you know?
And it was embarrassing.
And it's, you know, cause you're inCrossFit, especially you're around all
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these super, super fit people, right?
Most of the time.
Now, you know, go to a CrossFit gym, go toyour local CrossFit gym, meet people.
It's such a welcoming environment, such awelcoming group of people.
That's why I love CrossFit.
You're gonna have people that are insanelyin shape and you're gonna have people that
aren't in shape at all and everybody's,you know, able to do something and you're
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all doing fitness together and it's reallyhelpful environment and people genuinely
care and they genuinely want to help butjust taking that step to get into the gym
takes a lot when you're when you're badout of shape.
So it's like I get it.
I was in that boat, right?
I was trying to figure it out.
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And I finally got to a place where it waslike, I just cared more about improving
physically than I did about what otherpeople thought of me.
Yeah, good for you, man.
That's yeah, I I've mentioned this womanon my pod or not on this podcast a couple
of times.
Her name is Pat, who's a member of my gym.
She's 78 years old.
And it's so funny because people are like,I don't know if I can do this.
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And I'm like, she's 78 years old.
You're 27.
Like you can do this.
Like so.
Yeah.
I guess.
And like the last question I had for youis an act.
your Instagram name, fit to serve one.
What's the significance behind that or howdid you come up with that name?
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So funny story, I've had that username fora while.
It was almost destiny.
When I'd gotten out of the military andI'd moved back to Birmingham and I was in
that time in my life where I was gettingsober and then couldn't stay sober and
then getting sober and then couldn't staysober, I tried to do this free workout
group because I had this concept where itwas like, you know, at the time all these
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gyms and stuff that were going on, this is2014, you know, personal training was very
expensive.
You know, all these things.
And people's excuse would be that theycouldn't afford a trainer or they couldn't
afford to go to a gym or they couldn't,you know, and I get that, right?
So I started this free workout group thatwould meet on Saturdays.
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And the purpose behind that at the timewas I called the workout group Fit to
Serve because in my mind I was thinking weall need to be physically fit in order to
go out and serve our community.
or serve in some capacity.
So it was focused on being physically fitso that you could serve.
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Well, years go by.
I struggle with my opiate stuff.
I finally end up getting through that.
And I've just always had, and it's fit toserve one because fit to serve was taken
by someone else.
So the one's just an addition on the end.
Fit to serve.
So I go and fast forward to today.
And I keep the Instagram name because myconcept of what it means to be fit to
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serve changed, okay?
So I go to a place where I now have gainedall this weight, right?
I'm 70 pounds more than I am now.
I'm basically obese, but I'm servingpeople through my comedy and through the
videos I'm making.
So I'm being of service by providing humorto someone's day.
And also the whole confidence thing withtaking my shirt off like I was being of
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service through that.
So that showed me, that disproved my veryfirst thought about it, because it was
like, you know, you don't have to bephysically fit to serve, you know?
If you want to, you know, I think we'reall equipped.
I think we all have purpose.
I think we all have, are built in some wayto be of service.
And my example I always use is a schoolteacher example, right?
People, you know, you talk to most goodschool teachers, whatever.
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They love it.
They love their job.
They love educating the kids.
They love being in that environment.
They love, like that's their purpose,right?
Or that's part of their purpose.
For me, I could never do that.
You know, I just, it would be a strugglefor me, right?
But that's their way of serving.
Whereas I like to take the comedyapproach.
I think I serve people through humor andcomedy and making light of situations
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that, you know, people don't always makelight of and all these, you know.
bringing some humor to the world.
We're all in some way, you know, owning agym and being a fitness coach.
That's a way of being of service, youknow?
That's a way of living in your purpose,helping other people reach physical
fitness.
So that's where it came from, man.
That's what it means to me now, and that'smy answer when people ask that question
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now.
I like that, man.
That's cool.
Well, also, I know we're kind of coming upon, I know you said you had about an hour,
and we're approaching that.
So this actually sounds like a pretty goodplace to wrap up.
But if people want to, I know I just threwyour Instagram name out there, but if
people want to find you, or if you haveanything coming up, take a couple minutes,
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pimp your profile, take some time.
Yeah.
Cool.
Yeah.
So Instagram, yeah, usually if you searchfit, FIT, the number two fit to serve on
Instagram, I'll come up.
It is fit to serve one, the number one onthe end on Instagram.
It's fit to serve on TikTok.
And I've kind of got my YouTube thinggoing, but man, I've done just a lot of
fun stuff.
We've got, I'm located in Nashville now.
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We've got some cool events coming upthere.
About to do the Murph workout at H -DubAthletics in Nashville with Power Lift.
like a protein water deal, they're raisingmoney for US vets.
Got a pickleball event coming up withSpirited Hive in June.
So if you check out my Instagram, I'll beplugging all of those events and would
love to have whoever, you know, show upand come out.
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Cool, and I'll make sure to throw that inthe description for this episode too, when
it drops.
Well, cool, awesome.
I'm gonna do my little sign off then, butEvan, thank you so much for coming on,
this was great.
So guys, as always, thank you forlistening, and you can find the Cult of
Recreationalism on all podcast services.
Don't forget to check us out on YouTube orour social media, just look up Bubbs
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Naturals and you're gonna find us, we'rethe one that pops up.
And while you're there,
leave a thumbs up, leave a five starreview, whatever platform you're on, any
positive review helps.
So Evan, thanks again man.
Thank you, brother.
What's up everybody and welcome to theCult of Recreationalism podcast.
I'm here today with Evan Slaughter, AKA atFit to Serve One.
Evan, thanks for joining us today.
Man, Nate, glad to be here, dude.
Yeah, so I wrote up a little intro and dida little bit of internet digging.
So tell me if I got it right or if there'sjust lies out there.
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So, all right.
Especially if you're audio listeners, youcan't see Evan has a mustache that rivals
Ron Swanson's.
He is a pickle baller.
It's clean, looking good today.
He is a pickle baller.
He is a fitnesser.
He has made a career as of recent makingfun of pickle ballers and influencer and
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fitnessers.
in a good way.
He's a veteran.
He is self -employed, ladies.
And if you haven't seen any of his videosonline, your friends have, or you've sent
them to your friends with the caption,this is you or this is us, they're all
good.
If you're in the fitness or pickleballspace, you've probably seen stuff that
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Evan's made.
So yeah, man, thanks for being here.
Thanks for taking the time.
So.
Yeah, man.
Glad to be here.
Thanks for asking me.
Yeah, it's funny how many people will Didit like ever since this kind of took off
for me?
I'll get like friends that I haven'ttalked to in a long time or whatever
that'll say dude Just you someone justsent me through your video.
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It's like I know that guy or my brother'seven gotten some videos Sent to him.
He's like, that's my brother How weirdthat you on that side of it and be like
dude you showed me a video and then meetthe guys like that's my brother You know
that just blows my mind, dude
The internet's a crazy place.
It's funny.
Yeah.
So like some of the bub stuff we've likemade some like pre -roll ads for YouTube
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and I know that kind of stuff and it'ssome of it's me talking and I was showing
somebody a video on my team and it poppedup.
It was like, what are we looking at?
And I was like, sorry, skip, wait the fiveseconds.
Got to hit skip.
So yeah.
Cool.
Well, yeah, Evan, like give me a littlebackground.
Like how did you get into doing whatyou're doing?
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Like.
When you grew up, did you want to be aninternet content creator?
Or how did you get here?
Gosh, when I grew up, the internet wasn'ta thing yet.
So could not have chosen this as a job asa kid.
I don't know, man.
I've always been into comedy.
You know, that's kind of my thing on here.
Like I always lead with comedy.
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It's, you know, I've done that my wholelife, whether it's just making new friends
or in any kind of social setting.
My, my go -to is comedy.
So I'm very natural with trying to makepeople laugh and having fun with it and
laughing at myself a lot.
So I definitely knew I wanted to, or Icould feel like I wanted to do something
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entertainment.
I liked being the center of attention alot as a kid.
Real smart, Alec, growing up, had a realsmart mouth, one getting in trouble in
school, that kind of stuff.
And so I think I knew, or I could, I don'tknow that I wanted to do it to this
extent, but I definitely liked theentertainment side of things.
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So I think that's kind of where, when Igot,
hired an office life and regular nine tofive stuff and just said, I'm not doing
this anymore.
It was like, all right, this feels, when Istarted making people laugh and having
success on the internet, I was like, thisis the first time I have a job where I
actually enjoy it and it doesn't feel likework.
Yeah, and I know I talked to you a littlebit when we met in Tennessee.
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What previous jobs did you have beforethis?
Wow, man.
I've done it all, brother.
No, I went to college, was studyingexercise science in college and did about
two or three years worth of college andjust, I ended up getting a job as a
personal trainer and managing a gym that afriend of mine owned in Birmingham,
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Alabama, where I'm from.
And so the reason I quit college is I waslike, I just was doing what I was planning
to do with a degree anyways at that time.
which was something with fitness.
And I just didn't like school, but youknow, shortly after that, I ended up
deciding to join the army and went intothe army.
I was in the infantry in the army, went toairborne school while I was there, was in
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a long range surveillance unit, deployedto Afghanistan, all that kind of good
stuff.
And then getting out of that in 2014,moved back to Birmingham where I became a,
got into multifamily real estate.
I was managing,
some apartment complexes and helping withrenovations and stuff.
A friend of mine got me into that and itwas a good job, but it was just, I wasn't,
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you know, it wasn't fulfilling.
Like I didn't feel like I was living outmy purpose by any means in that and ended
up switching again to operations managerof a plumbing company that was based in
Alabama and was even more miserable,right?
So.
Finally, I was also getting sober at thetime off opiates and just kind of going
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through a weird time in my life.
And so when I finally got sober, got outall that job and stuff, I was like, I'm
going to do what I love.
I'm no more like beating my head againstthe wall at an office job and being
miserable just to earn a decent paycheck.
I'm actually pursue what makes me happy.
And so started messing around on TikTokand Instagram and being deliberate about
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my comedy.
And it just took off from there.
Yeah, I think it's really cool to do withyour comedy too.
Like it is, it's a comedy, like you cantell it's out of love.
Like you're not just making fun ofpickleballers.
You can tell that you play pickleball andthese are just like the crazy things that
you guys say to each other and you pick upon them.
Yeah, if you can't laugh at yourself andwhat you enjoy, then I just don't see how
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you go through life because even thingsthat I'm passionate about, fitness and
pickleball and all that stuff, every sidehas a humor to it, right?
So, or at least in my mind it does.
So I enjoy poking fun at the lightheartedside of those things.
And so that pickleball, obviously it'slike fastest growing sport in America.
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When did you get into pickleball?
Or did you, have you been, were you anearly adopter?
Is this a recent thing?
I would say that I'm not late, but middleinto it.
I mean, old school pickle ballers will sayI'm way late, but I got into it in 2021
and I actually learned pickle ball whilein rehab, getting sober off opiates.
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And they had a little rinky dink, youknow, pickle ball court there.
And that was one of the things that wecould do in between, you know, our group
sessions stuff.
And first time I was introduced to it andloved it.
And,
was playing it so much there and then gotout and continued to play it and that's
when it kind of incorporated into mycomedy videos.
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That's I I'm super late into it, but Ilove it and it's fun and it's been
actually really cool So I my parents livein a different city, but when they come
visit my mom has gotten really into it Andshe's like kind of gotten my dad into it
But it's like I never thought I'd beplaying a sport with my mom who's in her
mid 60s and she's good.
So like Yeah So yeah, that's funny thewhat so what sports did you play growing
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up if you wanted to become a trainer likeI'm assuming you were?
athletic growing up.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I did love baseball,played a bunch of baseball.
I wrestled one year, I did one year offootball.
I kind of quit sports in high school justbecause I became disinterested.
I went to a pretty big high school inAlabama, Hoover High School.
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We had a really big football program,really big in sports and it just wasn't
fun for me anymore at that level.
I was...
too interested in partying and goofing offand hanging with my buddies.
I also rode a lot of motorcycles and dirtbikes.
So I was doing that a lot.
I liked my free time.
And so, but you know, baseball, little bitof football, little bit of wrestling.
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Cool.
What a...
So, and then, obviously from there, whendid you, so, and I asked you a little bit
about this at camp where we met, but like,what actually prompted the switch from, I
don't know, was it the plumbing job thatyou were at to full -time creator?
And like, when were you comfortable, orwere you comfortable making that jump?
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Yeah, you know, that's like I was saying,man, it was a weird time in my life.
I was, you know, getting sober offopiates.
So I had an issue with opiates just kindof, you know, in my early twenties.
And we've got addiction, you know, issuesin my family a little bit with my dad
who's now sober.
So it's kind of runs in the family style.
But the only thing for me that ever was astruggle were opiates.
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And so I'd struggled a little bit.
early 20s and then joined the military,was in the military doing well and then
injured in Afghanistan and when I gotinjured in Afghanistan well guess what
followed you know were prescription painpills and so by the time I got out of the
military I carried with me a pretty badopiate addiction and so I fought you know
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getting sober and going back to it andtrying to get sober and going back to it
so then finally go into a three -monthrehab program.
middle of 2021 is where I decided, youknow, I was able to finally kick it and
move on.
And so during that time, it was like, Iwas so miserable in those jobs that I was
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doing just because I was not happy.
I mean, I had come from a, you know, beingin the army and the infantry, very high
speed unit, deployed to Afghanistan, allthis stuff to like an office job setting.
And it just, it was miserable.
So fortunately for me though,
I had owned a home and was able to sellit.
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It was in 2022, real estate markets doinggreat, especially for selling homes at
that time.
So had no problem selling the house andwas able to take that money, pay off any
debt I have, get back on my feet.
And I had a little bit of time from thesale of that house where it's like, all
right, I don't have to just go find a jobright now.
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You know, I can, I've got enough money topursue something else.
And so simultaneously it was like, I justenjoy doing comedy stuff, man.
It wasn't even, it wasn't what theintention of it becoming something that I
would monetize at the time.
It was just something I enjoyed doing.
And then when it started to have successand I started doing stuff around
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pickleball and CrossFit and all the thingsthat I was getting interested in, cause
I...
gained a bunch of weight after gettingsober off opiates.
I'd found comfort in food and so I'dgained this weight and now I'm trying to
lose weight again.
I just started doing comedy stuff aroundthat and it was from that where the
companies started reaching out, wanting meto work with them, market this, do this
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pickleball paddle, do this CrossFit stuff.
And that's when I learned about how toreally monetize your social media stuff.
Yeah, so a lot of people use social mediato unwind.
What do you do?
Are you on Instagram and TikTok late intothe night?
Or like, do you read, are you game, orwhat do you do to unwind?
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You know, that's a good question becauseI'm like, I used to use social media to
unwind and now it's very much a job forme.
So it's like when I look at content now,especially watch other content, just
scroll through Instagram, scroll throughTikTok.
I'm always watching it like.
Ooh, maybe I should do a version likemaybe I could take this concept and spin
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it in my and it just is so stressful andit feels like work, you know?
I mean, not stressful in a bad way.
It's just like, I can't turn that offwhere I can just, it's hard to turn it off
and just enjoy social media content.
So I definitely try to find other things.
Yeah, I've got some shows I like to watchat night, comedy stuff, but really just
being active again, you know, going outand playing pickleball because I make so
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much pickleball content.
Sometimes I don't get to play as much asyou would think.
So like getting just to go play pickleballor just going to work out or going on a
walk around where I live and all thosethings, getting outside is huge.
Being on my phone, making content, I haveto take a break from that.
I have to get outside and unplug.
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So that's probably the best way I know howto just unwind is just go outside.
That's, I think more people needed to hearthat.
Yeah, it's funny.
The, I, I can't remember who said it, butthey're like, if you love what you do,
you, you'll never work a day.
He's like, no, that's a lie.
Like if you love what you do, you'realways kind of working.
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like you, you're always looking forinspiration here.
Like,
I love that, yeah, that's true.
so cool.
I had a few, I just had some fun.
Honestly, so for questions, are you ondating apps?
Never been on a dating app dude.
That's one thing.
I don't knock them.
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But most of my friends are whatever.
I just haven't ever done it.
that good for you, but like the one I didactually, I hate them.
It sucks.
I'd rather meet someone in person.
It's just hard when you're in your midthirties to like.
everybody, they use the internet foreverything now, right?
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It's like, it's, yeah, it's the way you dothings now.
But I did go through and I was like, whatare like, like for interviews and stuff
there, some of them have like promptswhere it's like, you put like two truths
and a lie about yourself.
So I went through and like stole some ofthose and so we can get to know Evan a
little bit better.
So Evan, the person and not Evan, thefitness influencer.
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So first this was what did your parents orwhen you were growing up, if you're
getting punished, how did your parentspunish you growing up?
I was spanked, brother.
I'm from that spanked generation and proudof it.
Yeah, the grounding didn't work very well.
I mean, sometimes we get grounded, havethings taken away.
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You can't ride your dirt bike, can't dothis, but it was always spanked until I
was too old to spank, right?
I was in there too and I remember therewas a certain time like my dad spanked me
and I turned around like that didn't hurt.
That was...
way dude.
That's when they knew like can't spankthem anymore.
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That's so funny.
It turned into like, as I got older, my,my parents, they made me do pushups and it
was like stupid little things.
I was like, I was always like good atmath.
And then at one point I was just missingthese really easy questions.
And it was like a family friend was mysixth grade teacher.
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And so they're like, and I think she toldhim, she's like, Hey, he's just not
checking his work.
And.
So anyways, my dad, he sits me down, he'slike, so here's what's gonna happen.
You're gonna bring your math homework homeand I'm gonna check it.
I'm gonna tell you how many you got wrong.
You owe me 10 pushups for every problemyou get wrong.
And then we're gonna repeat that processuntil he's like, I'm not gonna tell you
what the answer is.
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But in sixth grade, I was doing like 80pushups at night.
Like, just something stupid.
Yeah.
So what would you say is your greateststrength?
Ooh, my greatest strength, I would say, isto find humor in places where you, you
know, in anything.
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Find humor in anything.
I mean, I can be, I look at it as astrength for sure.
For example, just like being deployed andbeing with guys in the military and you're
overseas and you're in a combat zone andthen being able to laugh and still find
humor and bring humor to the group.
And, you know, I would say that's probablymy best strength.
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I'd say mine's my calves.
I say you got some big calves.
Cows, they're also not giving up.
You know, I'm pretty resilient when itcomes to things, overcome a lot and not
giving up.
So it's between those two, I guess.
Yeah, those are good ones.
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What would you say is your biggestweakness then?
God.
Finding a weakness, you know, no, no, noweakness.
is I would say that anxiety.
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Anxiety is something I've always struggledwith.
My mom can have pretty high anxiety, so Ithink I get it from her.
I have to not worry so much, right?
I used to worry about everything.
It would drive me crazy, dude.
And I think that as I'm matured and asI've just kind of learned some things and
experienced different things, the anxietygets better.
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But it's definitely something I have tostay on top of and be aware of and know
like, hey,
It's okay.
I was dealing with a situation this weekwhere it was tough.
I was doing this deal with a group and Iwas really excited about it and then it
turns out that I wasn't gonna be able todo the deal because it was a conflict with
another group that I'm already with, youknow?
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And I didn't realize that and it was justlike the anxiety I had over just having to
have that conversation drove me crazyuntil I was finally, I was like, you know
what?
The only thing I can do here is just beupfront and honest about this.
You know, and go to them and say, hey, Imessed up here.
You know, I shouldn't have committed tothis yet without doing a little bit more
research, blah, blah, blah.
And I did that and guess what?
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It turned out fine, right?
And so for like four days when I knew Ihad to do this, I'm just sitting there
sweating it, you know?
And so I think I let anxiety bring me downway too much.
What do you do to combat that?
For me, I...
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But for me, big conversations like thatare like, I hate them.
I'll do the thing where I lay in bed, Iknow in the morning I have to have a tough
conversation with someone, whatever it is,and I'll just stare at the ceiling and
then finally someone's like, just write itdown so it gets out of your head.
you know how it is, like if it's therapyor whatever, you talk to somebody and you
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just, it just felt good to like get thatoff my chest.
And I found that writing it down actuallyworked for me, so.
That's a great suggestion.
You know, what I have started to do, and Idon't know if this is a solution or just
something I've started doing, but like Iused to rely on like in that situation
where I'm feeling anxious about something,I would rely on someone else to make me
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not feel anxious about it.
And by what I mean by that is like I wouldgo to someone with the problem and
hopefully hear from them like, man, don'tworry about that.
You know, this is blah, blah, blah.
And hear what I wanted them to tell me.
But then I found out from doing that, I'vetaken the problem to other people before
and then they're more anxious about itthan I am and it only makes things way
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worse.
You know, and it's like, this isn't,you're frustrating me.
You know, like this isn't what I neededyou to tell me to hear.
And so what I've learned from that is Igotta stop relying on that.
Like you be the one, like you be the oneto handle this.
This is your deal.
You know, going to someone else is justgonna make this worse about it.
Just handle it.
Like just be honest, right?
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Lead with honesty and be honest about itand the outcome is the outcome, you know?
Who is your support like not to you don'twant to like spread anxiety onto someone
like that but like is it a family memberis it a friend like give it who do you who
do you go to for stuff like that?
My manager, Lisa, she's great.
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But I found out too that especially in asituation like this where she's involved
and it's like, I had to tell her like,guess what?
We can't do this, you know?
And then she gets just as anxious about itas I am because she's directly involved in
it.
You know, that's kind of the situation Iwas referencing there, but she's great,
man.
Like, just a life coach and just helps metalk through things and have someone I can
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go to and say, hey, this is, you know,just a support system.
Mm -hmm, yeah.
That's cool.
It's weird, I feel like people have gottenmore open about talking about anxiety and
things that make them anxious over thelast, really since COVID.
Yeah, yeah.
We come from a generation where that's notnormal, right?
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Like our parents, I know my parents werethat way.
It's just like, if there was a problem,don't talk about it.
You know, it's like, that's the worstsolution, you know, like, let's talk about
it.
Let's get it out there.
And I'm glad that we're headed thatdirection and where we're at now, because
it's definitely something that needs to benormalized, like in a healthy way.
Like if you got an issue, you know, yeah,talk about it with somebody.
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When you were in the military, becauseobviously this is before all of that, did
you have any issues with that?
You're in the military, you've got to berough and tough.
Did you have to deal with anything likethat there?
Yeah, for sure, man.
It's, you know, the military, no, no, no,it's great stuff.
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It's the military, you know, from it'salways changing, right?
They're always dealing with differentthings.
And there's also different branches of themilitary.
There's different jobs within themilitary.
So at the time that I was in the army, Iwas in what's called a combat MOS combat
job.
MOS is military occupation specialty.
So like,
When you join, everybody gets an MOS.
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You could be truck driver, you could be acook, you could be infantry like I was.
Well, I was infantry, that's considered acombat MOS.
And it was all male at the time.
I think now you can join the infantry as afemale.
So it's all male at the time.
So yeah, it's very much that environment,right?
Now, the government does a good job aboutchecking boxes, you know?
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Like...
If you want to kill yourself, here's whatyou do.
You know, it's like they've got a step foreverything.
It's just all bullshit.
I mean, it's all, you know, it's allthey're just making sure they do their job
to, you know, but so yeah, there wasdefinitely some of that.
You know, one of the things that I had todeal with directly was when I came back
from Afghanistan and was put on all theseprescription pain pills that, you know,
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they were giving me and I was abusing thembecause I have a problem with opiates.
I had to get to a point where I had to behonest with my leadership about that, you
know, and that was one of the scariestthings I've ever done because how do you
approach, you know, your platoon sergeantthat you deployed with and tell them that
you have a problem, you know, with takingthese pills because they just can't
comprehend that.
Like, well, just stop.
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Like, let's, yeah, stop being a baby aboutit.
And, you know, it's like, so definitelywent through some of that, but like, like
we were just saying, I think it's changingand hopefully even changing in
environments like that as well.
Yeah, no, it's not the just keep yourfeelings, push them down.
They're going to go so deep down and thenone day it's just going to all explode
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out.
The feelings volcano.
that's funny.
Do you, so when you were in the military,like you said, you always like to find
humor in any situations.
Like were you that guy in your platoon orlike, and I feel like just meeting you and
hanging out with you.
for the little bit we did that week.
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It was like, man, there was always likesomething like, someone's walking weird or
like whatever it is, like just somethinglike where we can all laugh at ourselves.
Like, I feel like you were probably thatguy.
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, I definitely was.
What's funny about the military is there'sa lot of me in that, you know, especially
in the infantry.
There's a lot of guys like me.
Some of the funniest people I've ever metin my life are military guys.
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I guess it's either just the sense ofhumor we all have together, you know.
We all kind of get it.
We're all kind of on the same page aboutthe humor.
I would say that, yeah, I was definitelyone of the funny ones on our team.
I was definitely one of the top onesmaking us laugh, but there's definitely
another dude right there with me namedJesse, and he was just as funny or funnier
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in my mind, you know?
So it's cool that you see that and youget, you know, who you meet and who you
interact with.
But I'd definitely say I was definitelyone of them for sure, cracking everybody
up.
Were you that class clown in high schooland junior high and all that too?
100%.
Yeah, for sure.
So much so that it was like a problem,right?
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Like I got in trouble a lot for, you know,running my mouth or talking or making
inappropriate jokes when I wasn't supposedto be making a joke or whatever.
So for sure.
What do you have like any funny storiesabout that?
Like, Evan's in the principal's officeagain because, and the parents are like,
what?
Yeah.
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So there was in middle school, I think Iwas eighth grade, my math teacher was the
mom of a lady named Heather Whitestone.
And at the time Heather Whitestone, shewas Miss Alabama, I think.
And she was also hearing impaired.
So she was like, it was really coolthings.
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She's just, you know, hearing impaired,Miss Alabama.
Her mom happens to be my math teacher.
And no offense to her, but man, I did notlike her mom.
I mean, she was, she must not have likedme either.
She was just much older and just, youknow, kind of mean in my opinion.
But there was this Halloween, it was rightaround Halloween time and right now we're
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getting these, someone's throwing aHalloween party and it's, they passed out
these invitations to people in our groupand I'm looking at the invitation, right,
in math class, okay?
Well.
She teacher comes over, takes theinvitation up and she's trying to be all
funny, you know.
Halloween party, is it a costume party?
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Do I have to, she's trying to embarrassme, right?
Do I have to wear a costume?
And I go, no.
And she goes, why is that?
I go, cause you've already got one on.
And basically I was like referring to herbeing a witch, right?
And I went right to the principal'soffice.
But little things like that, man.
I just couldn't help it, you know.
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huh.
I mean, I feel like if I was your parents,like, I mean, that's a good burn.
Like...
Don't try to embarrass me, lady.
Because she was straight trying tohumiliate me for reading this invitation
in class.
That's funny.
Some of the like, I've got the gym that Iown, I've got a couple, I've got a bunch
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of teachers that work out there.
We're right by like a big school district.
And one, he's actually one of my coaches,Ryan, he teaches elementary PE.
And it's like, every time he comes in,it's like, Ryan, how many times you get
flipped off today?
He's like, just twice.
Like.
I could not do that man that being ateacher of any sorts would it would drive
me crazy, dude
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huh.
Yeah, that's my brother's a band teacherand like it's I feel like if you're in
band you're like, okay, you're kind oflike driven and stuff.
But so I don't think he has a ton oftroublemakers, but I was definitely.
a band member in high school.
Super successful now.
Typical, you know, typical band memberstory.
Does he still play the clarinet?
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You know what?
He was, he did play the clarinet in highschool.
But when you said that, I was like, do youknow my brother, dude?
He was third chair clarinet.
And I don't know what chair he was, but hedid play the clarinet.
I don't think he's played it since highschool.
I don't think his wife would want himbreaking out the clarinet.
She just comes home one day and he's justover there and is like, I thought I'm
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gonna pick it back up.
Yeah.
Do you play any instruments?
I play the acoustic guitar some now.
I mean, I took some lessons growing up alittle bit, kind of dabbled in and out of
it.
You know, it was hard for me to stay intosomething, but I've since picked it back
up and just kind of the same way with itnow.
I mean, I'm not great, but I candefinitely like look at songs, look at
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major chords and play pretty simple stuffon it.
So I enjoy doing that for sure.
Yeah, that was I played piano as a kid.
It was like my parents made me takelessons.
And it's one of those like, man, I reallywish that like I had stuck with like when
you're a kid, it's like you just want todo what your friends are like, no, I want
to take karate.
That's what all my friends are doing.
I'm over here learning the piano.
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So cool.
I want to go.
Let's go back to Instagram stuff a littlebit, because I know you create content on
there.
You work with companies.
Have you ever bought anything from atargeted Instagram ad?
Ooh, man, you know, definitely yes.
You know what I want right now?
That's targeted Instagram ad of Vestaboard.
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Have you seen the Vesta boards?
You're going to look it up and you'regoing to want one, but they're $3 ,500 and
I couldn't manage to get one as aninfluencer.
Like it was like, you know, sometimesevery now and I'll see something I really
want and Lisa she'll.
reach out and just see if we can get one,you know, and see if we can exchange some
content for it, which a lot of time wecan't.
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And they just weren't taking, I thinkthere's an application you can fill out
now, where as an influencer, you can tryto get one, but they're just so popular
now.
But it's this cool, like at a trainstation, you're looking at it now with the
word, dude, you can like program it fromyour phone.
to say all these different things and itflips.
Brrrr
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pulling the trigger, but $3 ,500 seems alittle steep.
Yeah, no, I've seen these before.
I didn't remember that it was called this,but I remember seeing this like, that is
so cool.
And then immediately seeing the price taglike, nope.
I know, and you're like, damn, makes sensethough that it would be that much.
Like something that cool.
Of course it's going to be something Ican't afford right now.
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Yeah, the I remember like when it was likeearly on when people like like, yeah, like
our phones are always listening to us andand so we were talking about it and my
friend Taylor, I had seen him in themorning and then I saw him again that
evening and he's like, yeah, like over mylunch break, I'm going to go get some new
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running boards for her.
Yeah, like new like steps basically for myforerunner.
And I was like, cool.
And then like,
An hour later, I open up Instagram and I'mgetting ads for running boards for a
forerunner.
I don't own a forerunner.
Yeah, that's wild.
Yeah, I used to think that was all BS tooand people would say that but now it's
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apparent, it's obvious that, you know,they're able to do that and like be that
specific with ads or anything.
Yeah, it's crazy, dude.
Yeah, so yeah, now the only thing I canremember that I've bought from an
Instagram ad was a slackline.
Okay.
Do you slackline often?
Nope.
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I did when I got it.
I had done, I had a friend, or one of myroommates in college had one, and like, I
got okay at it.
He was really good at it.
He like studied abroad and they did it allthe time wherever he was.
And, and I got like pretty good at it, butlike, it's probably in that closet back
there now or something.
So around the garage.
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So yeah.
That's something I've never tried,slacklining.
It wasn't as, I guess not easy, but it'slike if you have like a decent level of
balance, and I had a good teacher I think,and he's like, you wanna stare right where
the line hits, if it's between two trees,you wanna stare right where it meets the
tree, because he's like, it's gonna movelike this, except for where it's touching
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the tree, like that's not moving.
So if you step there, that's your middle.
Yeah.
When you're making skits, do you, like,
Where do you find inspiration from?
And we kind of talked about this a littlebit, but like is it in the moment?
Like hold on.
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I gotta go write that down Or is it seeingother things other people have created and
you're like, I want to make my version ofthat
So it's a little bit of everything, youknow, like I try to keep it as organic and
as original as possible I think about likejust scenarios like I guess that's just
how I view the world through my lens,right?
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Like I put a comedic spin on basicallyeverything that I look at it sometimes to
where it's like I have to turn it off andbe like no, this is not a time to be
funny, you know, you know, and I have tokind of kind of
Gauge it some but I would definitely sayit comes from a lot of different places
You know, I'm very much one a lot ofpeople do things different ways and I
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don't know if this is the right way to doit or not This is how I've done it But
usually for like like I have a contentcalendar right that I'm making content for
all these different brands all thesedifferent deliverables I've got to make
For the month, right and I really don'tEven think of the concept for the video
that I've got to make until that
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So it's like now sometimes I'll have if agood idea comes up I put it in a notes on
my phone or I write it down somewhere I'vegot it saved and I come back and revisit
it and see if it is a good fit But when itcomes to actually making the video, I
don't do it until the day of most of thetime Because I feel like I'm more creative
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that way It's like I have to be in a moodto go out and do this takes a lot of
energy It takes a lot of you know, likeyou can't be
It's hard to be depressed or angry orupset or hungry or tired or whatever it is
and then go out and put this energy into acomedy skit.
So I kind of create based off how I'mfeeling that day.
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Now watching social media sometimesdefinitely helps and gives inspo.
You see a lot of cool trend stuff and I'vedefinitely done my version of trends but I
really like to be a trendsetter a lot andI've always been that way man whether it's
with the clothes I wear or the style, youknow.
I really try to do my own thing.
I just like that.
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But it's always helpful to pullinspiration from other places.
Someone told me, I forgot how this goes,but it was in reference to music.
And I heard this from a really goodmusician one time.
He's a friend of mine, really talentedguy, really intelligent guy.
And he was saying, and he's like, and thisreally pisses me off.
Not me, but this is what he said.
He said, this really pisses me off.
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He said, someone told me one time thatthere's no original song.
And I was like, huh, and I thought aboutthat for a second, and I'm probably
misquoting this song, but what he meansbasically is like ever since music's been
created or notes or since the man of time,right, we're all just taking our version
of that note and the chords and how it'sput into a song and remixing what's
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already been created, right?
So I try to, I think of that sometimeswith comedy and everything, and I think,
well,
I like that, that takes some of thepressure off because it's just my spin on
comedy, right?
And what's already being done.
Now that comes out in a very organic andoriginal way that hasn't maybe been done
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in that order before, done in that waybefore, but when it comes down to it,
we're all just doing our version of what'salready out there.
Yeah, that's the, I've heard like the,that's like the music specific version,
but I've also heard like the, just theidea of like original thoughts, like how
hard it is to like, yeah, like it's allinspired by something that you saw, even
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if you don't remember seeing it, it's inyour subconscious.
And so, yeah, that's, yeah.
And then.
sometimes, but there's truth to it, Ithink, for sure, right?
Yeah, but it's funny too.
Musk, he might be the only exception.
Yeah, it's funny too, because you talkabout...
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Okay, so original thought, like in yourpickleball video where you're like, back
me up, Brenda.
And it's like, that wasn't actually afunny thing.
That was just someone said, back me up,Brenda.
And you're like, if I say that in a funnyway or like just things like that.
Yeah, it's like, you know, the couplethat's yelling at each other on, you know,
they've been married forever and they'reyelling at each other about, you know,
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that's why a lot of people don't place, dosports with their significant other,
right?
It's just that whole idea of, and thenlike taking people's names, Donna, Beth,
Cheryl, you know, there's just funniernames.
Cheryl.
Nice, dude.
It's funny when we're do you call yourparents mom or dad when you're out in
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public with them?
I go back and forth.
So my parents' names are Harry and Janie.
And so sometimes I'll do that until oneday, like one of my mom's friends, she
always heard me calling her Janie or whenI would talk about my dad, I'd call him
Harry.
And they just thought I was doing thatbecause I had a bad relationship with
them.
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And I was like, no, it's just, that's myversion of dad and, you know, because my
friends would call him that growing up andeverything.
And...
So I always just saw it as a term ofendearment.
So, but you know, now that they're older,I try to, I say older, if they listen to
this, my mom would kill me, but they're intheir sixties, right?
So I try to mom and dad a little bit more,but I've always, I've always seen it as a
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term of endearment whenever I call themHarry or Jamie.
Yeah, I think it's funny.
I call mom and dad all the time.
But then if we're in a grocery store andlike and I'm down and she's like, my mom
will see me to go get something and like,wait, what?
And like, hey, Cheryl, like that's whenI'll do it because I realized at a young
age, if I say mom, every mom turns andfaces you in the middle of that.
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So now that's funny.
The yeah.
Dang.
OK, this one.
is another question.
Give me your thoughts on shirts.
like.
Where like, you're, a lot of people arenot comfortable taking their shirt off and
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you seem very comfortable taking yourshirt off.
Is.
probably.
Yeah, you know, I don't know, man.
It was a big thing for me, like, because Igained all this weight.
Like, I'm currently down 70 pounds, Ithink, since October last year.
I appreciate it.
And what's crazy about that is that formost of my life, I've definitely been in
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shape more than I've been out of shape,but it was just like a thing that happened
when I got so brophopoeic.
It was just...
Started finding comfort in food in anunhealthy way.
Like I was making all this content.
I put exercise and fitness on the backburner I was focused on content and then
at night I would just eat man.
That was my thing I was that was my cyclefor a while that you know, I would eat and
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I still drink alcohol as well Never been aproblem for me there.
And and so I would eat and then some someweekends I would drink, you know, whatever
and I'm just put taking in all thesecalories, right?
and not exercising because I was puttingall this energy and focus into comedy.
And so the whole, you know, I just decidedat the same time when I started making,
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you know, pouring myself into socialmedia, I'd done a lot of healing mentally
from the opiate stuff and had gone througha divorce at the same time.
Just really, just had a lot of healing todo.
And that's when I decided I was going tolook at life differently.
And I had this new perspective on life.
And one of the biggest things is I used toalways just, like many of us do struggle
with confidence, struggle with how peopleperceive me, whether it's physically or do
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they find me funny or do they find mecool, whatever it is, we all struggle with
that in some kind of way.
And I just kind of simultaneously whileI'm making this, well, I'm gotten off the
opiates and all this stuff, I'm makingcomedy things, I'm finally enjoying life
and at a place where I'm mentally healthyfor the first time in a long time.
truly mentally healthy, along with thatcame this renewed confidence where I just,
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you know, I quit caring what other peoplethought of me.
I quit caring how other, focusing so muchon how people perceived me and how they
saw me and it was so freeing for me totake my shirt off and not be your typical
Instagram model and not be your typical,you know, ripped abs and people are so
afraid of that.
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It's like, man, I don't care anymore.
what you think, you know, I like me forme, I like who I am.
And so I just was taking it off and Ididn't, you know, doing a lot of videos
with my shirt off and that was kind ofpart of my deal for a little bit and some
of the videos I got, you know, so much sothat when people would come up or say
something and hey, I love your content,whatever they would say, I almost didn't
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recognize you with a shirt on, right?
And so it, but it was also cool because Iwas getting a bunch of messages from
people that.
We're saying, hey man, I know this iscomedy routine, I know this is blah, blah,
but you're really helping me.
You know, I struggle with confidence.
I struggle going to the gym because Idon't look a certain way.
I struggle with doing this.
I struggle with doing that and justwatching you and how you perceive things
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and take things and don't care what otherpeople say about you and all that kind of
stuff is really helping me.
So when I was getting those messages, Iwas like, so there's a purpose to this.
You know, this is helping people.
I'm not going to back off from this justbecause, you know,
I'm gonna continue to pour into this kindof thing.
And I did, and it was helping, what peopledon't realize is it was helping me too.
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Because I was in a place where I wastrying to build my confidence back up and
like I said, I was so freeing, so it waslike empowering, you know, to go out there
and then have videos go viral.
Like my most viral video, over 16 millionviews, was in a place where I was not in
great shape.
I was at that mark where I was about...
Maybe back then when I did it, maybe 60pounds heavier than I am now.
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I think I wasn't at my heaviest there, butI was close to it.
It's me pushing a lawnmower with my shirtoff, you know, and like over 16 million
views.
So people see that, you know, it's beenviewed a lot.
And so, and I don't even think of it thatway, right?
I just got and did my thing and it was,and it was, but it was cool.
It was freeing.
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And so now it's almost like as I get backin shape, it's like I can't pull that off
anymore.
It's like I have to start wearing a shirtnow because it's not going to be as funny.
So I'm trying to find that line, but atthe end of the day, man, I don't care, you
know?
No man, when I first saw it, I was like,this guy gets it, like fuck yes.
Like this guy, like yeah, I was like, thisis awesome.
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But okay, so for you said it's like beingmentally healthy, and then there's also
clearly like being physically healthy.
Do you find there, like, like, okay, letme take two steps back.
You're talking about like being in a goodplace when you go to make a video.
Do you go like work out earlier in themorning to like physically put yourself in
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a good spot or do you do anything to likementally put you in a good spot when you
do that?
Man, that's an excellent question, becausethat's something I think about a lot.
And I know other creators that purposelymake sure that they work out before they
go create.
And there's definitely something to that.
Sometimes I get stuck because my focus isso much on, I want to make, you know, I've
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got all this content to knock out, right?
It's kind of like I look at it like work alittle bit.
I mean, I should look at it like work, butas I do more stuff with brands, you know,
it's...
It's like, yeah, I enjoy what I do.
I love what I do.
But sometimes there's some of it that'sactual work that isn't as fun, right?
So that can be pretty stressful.
And it's like, I get so focused, laserfocused in on getting that done for the
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day.
You know, if I have to go do a pickleballthing, I've got to go to a court during a
time during the week when no one's goingto be there because pickleball courts are
slammed right now.
So I got to go in the morning or I got togo during a week there.
I got to, but what I, what I,
I always feel like I do create better if Ihave exercised first.
Like it gets my mind going, it gets myendorphins going.
So one of the things that I've been tryingto do a better job of is waking up earlier
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if I have to just to make sure I go aheadand prioritize fitness, prioritize working
out and it makes it easier for me to goout and create.
You know, I don't have to think aboutlike, well crap, I still got to work out
at the end of the day or I get done withall this content stuff for the day and now
I'm too tired to go work out or you know,so.
I think that's something that I've got todo a better job of prioritizing because it
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definitely does help me to have exercisefirst.
Are you more creative in the morning orthe evenings or middle of the day?
Golly, so,
I would say.
or mid morning, you know, 10 a to noon.
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And then again, I can get creative lateafternoon, four to six, something like
that.
And that's when I kind of have to like, Ithink in the later part of the day is
whenever I do a lot more of my like, if Icome up with an idea or I'm thinking of
something, I do more writing then I'll putmore stuff in my phone and try to plan for
things.
Sometimes I like something so much that Igotta go create it now and I wanna shoot
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it now.
Because I know how I want it to look and Iknow how I want it to come out and I want
to do it now, right?
But I think mid -morning after I've wokenup some, had coffee, done whatever, I feel
pretty creative then.
And then again, I get a little spark lateafternoon where I feel that way again.
Yeah.
When do you like, so that's when you liketo be creative or when you naturally are
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creative.
Do you have a time when you're naturallylike, like I around 2 p is when I'm like
ready to go work out.
Do you have a time like that?
Yeah, I mean, like for me, because usuallyI'm usually a mid morning exercise guy.
That's the problem because I don't usuallylike working out real early, right?
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I like to take my time when I get up.
I like to wake up, have coffee, messaround on my phone, you know, whatever I
got to do, get going a little bit.
Sometimes it takes me a little too long toget going, I think.
And then I feel like being creative,right?
Because now the day's going on and it'slike, all right, I got...
little bit of time where I need to getthis done.
If I have to go to this park to shootsomething, it's not going to be high
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traffic at the time.
I can go do it now.
And that conflicts with when I like towork out.
But I'm at a place now in life whereworking out is going to happen for me,
right?
Like, whereas this time last year orwhatever, I would have put it off and
that's how I was gaining all that weight.
But now because I've lost all this weightagain and I'm feeling good physically and
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I'm starting to, you know,
make some serious healthy changes,physical fitness is definitely like, it's
gonna happen.
And it's just, did it happen when I wantto in the mid morning or am I having to
squeeze it in before the nighttime?
So ideally like to do it mid morning, butif I gotta get in, like I still haven't
worked out today.
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So I've got this evening, I'm gonna haveto run, I'm gonna have to do something
just so I get it in, right?
But ideally I'm trying to do it midmorning.
Do you have any fitness goals right now,anything you're working towards?
yeah, I mean, so I'm down 70 pounds andthis is what's crazy because I'm really
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about I'm not a tall dude, right?
I'm 5 '5".
Okay, a lot of people don't realize thatwhich blows my mind too because I get that
a lot too like, dang, you're shorter thanI thought.
I was like, I mean, I get it.
It's hard to tell how tall someone is on avideo, but I'm standing in my kitchen next
to my refrigerator like...
You should be able to put two and twotogether that I'm barely seeing above the
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ice maker.
No, so, yeah, yeah.
I'm on tippy toes reaching the top shelfof my, yeah.
So, I mean, when I was at my heaviest, Ithink I was 280 and that's a five, five
frame.
I mean, that's heavy, bro.
Now I think I weighed in the other day at213 something, 213 and a half.
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Hell yeah.
I'm trying to get to 180, you know, 175,180.
So that would be my goal right now is justto continue to drop weight till I'm like a
healthy 175, 180.
Okay, that's the, it's so funny too,because like the, I own a gym and stuff,
and the amount of people who they, how doI say this?
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Like if it's someone who's a member of mygym, and like, hey, my friend is
interested in joining, and I talk to him,like I'll hop on the phone, and they're
like, yeah, I feel like I need to get inshape before I come in, and it's like, no,
you don't, like that's the whole point ofcoming in, and it's like, and you don't,
like just start.
But.
and that was a big thing because one ofthe reasons, I'm actually really grateful
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for the weight gain that I had because itgave me a lot of perspective from where
people who are overweight, how they feel.
I mean, I was obese at 280, 155, that'sobesity.
So I know what that feels like and I knowthe struggles that come along with that.
now and I know how it makes you feel, howyou have no energy, how you're
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embarrassed.
You can be embarrassed easily about howyou look.
I mean, I am very comfortable in a gymenvironment, have been all my life, was in
the Army infantry, went to Special Forcesselection, went to, did all these
different things, right?
And, but yet, when I gained all thatweight, I was super timid about going to
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the gym.
So I, you know, a lot of these littlefunny workout videos I was doing, I was
just doing in a park or a tennis court orwherever by myself where no one was
around, but at least I was out moving,right?
So it's like, I understand, like, yes,build up the confidence and just say,
screw it and get to a place where you'rejust like, I don't care about what other
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people think of me.
I care about me and I want to improvephysically.
So I'm going to go to the gym.
But at the same time, I know how that.
feels big time, especially when I was thatweight trying to get into CrossFit.
I mean, dude, I could barely, the warmupwas kicking my ass, you know?
And it was embarrassing.
And it's, you know, cause you're inCrossFit, especially you're around all
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these super, super fit people, right?
Most of the time.
Now, you know, go to a CrossFit gym, go toyour local CrossFit gym, meet people.
It's such a welcoming environment, such awelcoming group of people.
That's why I love CrossFit.
You're gonna have people that are insanelyin shape and you're gonna have people that
aren't in shape at all and everybody's,you know, able to do something and you're
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all doing fitness together and it's reallyhelpful environment and people genuinely
care and they genuinely want to help butjust taking that step to get into the gym
takes a lot when you're when you're badout of shape.
So it's like I get it.
I was in that boat, right?
I was trying to figure it out.
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And I finally got to a place where it waslike, I just cared more about improving
physically than I did about what otherpeople thought of me.
Yeah, good for you, man.
That's yeah, I I've mentioned this womanon my pod or not on this podcast a couple
of times.
Her name is Pat, who's a member of my gym.
She's 78 years old.
And it's so funny because people are like,I don't know if I can do this.
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And I'm like, she's 78 years old.
You're 27.
Like you can do this.
Like so.
Yeah.
I guess.
And like the last question I had for youis an act.
your Instagram name, fit to serve one.
What's the significance behind that or howdid you come up with that name?
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So funny story, I've had that username fora while.
It was almost destiny.
When I'd gotten out of the military andI'd moved back to Birmingham and I was in
that time in my life where I was gettingsober and then couldn't stay sober and
then getting sober and then couldn't staysober, I tried to do this free workout
group because I had this concept where itwas like, you know, at the time all these
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gyms and stuff that were going on, this is2014, you know, personal training was very
expensive.
You know, all these things.
And people's excuse would be that theycouldn't afford a trainer or they couldn't
afford to go to a gym or they couldn't,you know, and I get that, right?
So I started this free workout group thatwould meet on Saturdays.
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And the purpose behind that at the timewas I called the workout group Fit to
Serve because in my mind I was thinking weall need to be physically fit in order to
go out and serve our community.
or serve in some capacity.
So it was focused on being physically fitso that you could serve.
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Well, years go by.
I struggle with my opiate stuff.
I finally end up getting through that.
And I've just always had, and it's fit toserve one because fit to serve was taken
by someone else.
So the one's just an addition on the end.
Fit to serve.
So I go and fast forward to today.
And I keep the Instagram name because myconcept of what it means to be fit to
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serve changed, okay?
So I go to a place where I now have gainedall this weight, right?
I'm 70 pounds more than I am now.
I'm basically obese, but I'm servingpeople through my comedy and through the
videos I'm making.
So I'm being of service by providing humorto someone's day.
And also the whole confidence thing withtaking my shirt off like I was being of
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service through that.
So that showed me, that disproved my veryfirst thought about it, because it was
like, you know, you don't have to bephysically fit to serve, you know?
If you want to, you know, I think we'reall equipped.
I think we all have purpose.
I think we all have, are built in some wayto be of service.
And my example I always use is a schoolteacher example, right?
People, you know, you talk to most goodschool teachers, whatever.
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They love it.
They love their job.
They love educating the kids.
They love being in that environment.
They love, like that's their purpose,right?
Or that's part of their purpose.
For me, I could never do that.
You know, I just, it would be a strugglefor me, right?
But that's their way of serving.
Whereas I like to take the comedyapproach.
I think I serve people through humor andcomedy and making light of situations
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that, you know, people don't always makelight of and all these, you know.
bringing some humor to the world.
We're all in some way, you know, owning agym and being a fitness coach.
That's a way of being of service, youknow?
That's a way of living in your purpose,helping other people reach physical
fitness.
So that's where it came from, man.
That's what it means to me now, and that'smy answer when people ask that question
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now.
I like that, man.
That's cool.
Well, also, I know we're kind of coming upon, I know you said you had about an hour,
and we're approaching that.
So this actually sounds like a pretty goodplace to wrap up.
But if people want to, I know I just threwyour Instagram name out there, but if
people want to find you, or if you haveanything coming up, take a couple minutes,
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pimp your profile, take some time.
Yeah.
Cool.
Yeah.
So Instagram, yeah, usually if you searchfit, FIT, the number two fit to serve on
Instagram, I'll come up.
It is fit to serve one, the number one onthe end on Instagram.
It's fit to serve on TikTok.
And I've kind of got my YouTube thinggoing, but man, I've done just a lot of
fun stuff.
We've got, I'm located in Nashville now.
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We've got some cool events coming upthere.
About to do the Murph workout at H -DubAthletics in Nashville with Power Lift.
like a protein water deal, they're raisingmoney for US vets.
Got a pickleball event coming up withSpirited Hive in June.
So if you check out my Instagram, I'll beplugging all of those events and would
love to have whoever, you know, show upand come out.
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Cool, and I'll make sure to throw that inthe description for this episode too, when
it drops.
Well, cool, awesome.
I'm gonna do my little sign off then, butEvan, thank you so much for coming on,
this was great.
So guys, as always, thank you forlistening, and you can find the Cult of
Recreationalism on all podcast services.
Don't forget to check us out on YouTube orour social media, just look up Bubbs
(57:58):
Naturals and you're gonna find us, we'rethe one that pops up.
And while you're there,
leave a thumbs up, leave a five starreview, whatever platform you're on, any
positive review helps.
So Evan, thanks again man.
Thank you, brother.
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