July 3, 2024 • 46 mins
On a special episode of the Cult of Recreationalism Sean and Nathan hang out and Sean shares a bunch of stories of growing up with Glen and adventures that they shared. Everything from their first job which they were horrible at, hitchhiking to Alaska to work for the summer, fiscal responsibility, fiscal irresponsibility, Glen coached CrossFit without ever getting certified, and him bringing joy and laughter to people even after he's gone. Yeah, I know that was a run on sentence but it's fitting for this episode. Enjoy!
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Backstory
02:37 The Mischievous Side of Glen: Terrapin Painters
06:46 The Bank of Glen: Always There to Lend Money
09:26 Following the Grateful Dead: Glen's Summer Adventure
12:27 Ski Bum Years: Glen's Love for Skiing and Snowboarding
24:10 The Adventures of Glen: Smuggling Auto Parts and Mystery Cargo
25:58 The Unconventional CrossFit Instructor: Glen's Lack of Certification
28:56 Glen's Resourcefulness: Navigating Challenges with Creativity
37:21 The Memorable and Beloved Friend: Glenn's Adventurous Spirit
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I'm gonna get to play the music withJimmy, I'm gonna like shop it in, but...
yeah, we kinda just jumped right the fuckinto that one.
I'm your X Factor, right?
I'm gonna just, I'm gonna make shit alittle bit different.
What's up everybody?
(00:22):
Welcome to the Cult of Recreationalismpodcast.
It's a one -on -one show today with me andSean.
If you're watching, if you're on audio,just so you know, it's me and Sean.
This kind of came about, actually, I'llkind of give a little backstory of how we
got here.
Today's gonna be some stories about Glennthat Sean's gonna share.
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Initially when we started this podcast, westarted an episode of how Bubs got started
and Sean,
started that with, well, to know that youneed to know about Bub.
And so he started telling some Bub storiesand it just kind of kept going.
And it was an amazing episode.
It was really cool.
And like Sean cut in and you can interjecthere, but it was really cool episode.
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And he's like, there are so many morewhere that came from.
So we wanted to have just a show where youjust tell some cool Glenn stories where
people can learn more about the namesakeof Bubs.
Yep.
And I would say there's a ton of storiesin Glenn that kind of go with the like, my
God, he was such an inspiration.
He was my best friend.
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He was so many different things.
And then there's the kind of likemischievous fuck off stories.
And these are more geared around that.
So if you're looking to like get the well-rounded picture, this is that part of the
more well -rounded side.
because I feel like we do a really.
it.
Like we did that first intro and I startedjust dropping these little stories in and
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I was like, well, there's so many more.
I literally spent maybe three minutes ofprep to get ready for this show.
And I came up with 11 stories that werejust like top of mind, like, I don't even
have to think too much.
My original thought was to go back todifferent friends.
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from different chapters and ask them fortheir stories because I was in most of
them, but kind of get their perspective.
And then I decided that's a futureepisode.
That's down the line stuff.
So for this one, you know, we can just letit rip.
Yeah, and so, because, like, yeah, all thestories we've told so far are like Glenn
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the hero, Glenn the people who laid downhis life to save others.
And I want to hear stories about Glenn thehitchhiker who went to it.
Like, those are the kind of stories that Iwant to, and I know you've got one about
Alaska that you threw out, just top ofmind, but yeah, let's start off.
Do you have any stories like?
three chapters to the Alaska story.
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There's, I'm going to go younger.
I saw I'm going to go chronologically.
so, so try to remember like setting thestage, like everyone can remember back to
high school.
I had an older brother and my olderbrother was Glenn's best friend.
And there was this whole group of core,core boys.
(03:15):
We call them the boys and just the boysand, the boys was.
You know, Robin Richardson, Chad Haskell,Phil Savon, Charlie Shannon, you know,
Glenn Guy, and like, you know, like RobinRichardson and all these guys are just
these core community of friends.
And there's so many more to mention thatthe list kind of goes on and on.
(03:38):
But that group, with the exception ofGlenn, obviously, like we're all still
incredibly tight, running a text thread,you know, 30 some odd years later.
looking back at all of our times togetherand future memories and planning events.
So it's a very core group.
So it really starts with them.
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So, and I might be butchering part of thisin which case any one of them can call me
out for accuracy issues.
But my first story is gonna come in theform of a question, Nathan.
And that is, of all the animals that youwould want to name,
a painting company after, what is the oneyou would choose last?
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of all the animals that you could choose,what would you not choose for a painting
company?
House painting company, like a company isgoing to go out and paint your house.
Yeah, I immediately want to name it aftermy dog, so I'm gonna go like the opposite,
like a bird or something like that.
Okay, so Glenn and Robin and my brotherGuy, and I think Brian Roemer was a part
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of it too, another buddy from high school,decided to name their painting company to
go around the neighborhood and solicitpeople to paint their houses.
And they wanted to call it and did call itTerrapin painters.
Now, a Terrapin is a type of tortoise, aturtle.
So it inspires slow movement, not speed.
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Is that just the Northeast?
I know the Maryland Terrapins.
Is that where the name came from?
It actually came from the Grateful Dead.
So they were all kind of like high schooldeadheads.
And, you know, we're just dabbling in thatwhole like, hey, man, you know, we're
going to hack you sack in the common andall that good stuff.
And I was the younger brother into speedmetal and like just, you know, wanted to
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listen to punk rock and thrash and allthat stuff and skateboard.
And these guys were, you know, soexperimenting with, you know, new age
music.
And but yeah, the predominant voice in theroom.
was Terrapin Painters after a GratefulDead album that had like a turtle on the
front of it.
And I was just like, I remember like beingyoung and a smart ass, me like, is that
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really a good idea guys?
They painted houses one summer.
I think the only houses that they landedwere Robin's parents' house and maybe one
other one.
So it was definitely an act of mercy.
I will not say that best practices wereensued.
There was certainly no.
health insurance, life insurance, or anykind of property damage insurances.
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But yeah, we all painted houses forvarious chapters of our teenage lives.
And it was, I mean, you learn a lotbecause like you're up on a ladder, it's
hot as balls.
And you just got a lot of work to do.
So there's nothing glamorous aboutpainting a house other than it looks
really cool when you're done, if you do agood job.
And the boys all did a really good job.
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We all literally all did it.
And we used to run around and just belike, born to paint.
That's what we do.
We're born to paint.
And I remember after years, Glenn and Iswore ourselves off of painting houses.
We were like, I fucking hate painting.
You just get absolutely burned out on it.
So that was it.
Don't ever call your house paintingcompany Terrapin Painters.
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I think it's just business 101 on thatone.
Well, the next story is kind of a rolloutof that.
And this is kind of a testament to Glenn'ssense of fiscal responsibility.
In those teenage years, we were all, youknow, like learning about the value of
money and your first jobs and, you know,how to have a savings account.
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Glenn was light years ahead of all of us.
Like he had a bank account immediately.
He had a paper route when he was, youknow, in the eighth grade, he or earlier,
like he always had money.
And he wasn't rich.
He just saved his money.
He was frugal from day one.
He just always had cash.
And he was always willing to lend hisfriends money.
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Think about that.
A buddy who's just always there and he'swilling to loan you money.
And Glenn earned a nickname, BOG, the Bankof Glenn.
And that was well established from histeenage years on all the way through our
ski bum years.
Glenn was always loaning money to hishomies.
Was he loaning it with interest?
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Okay.
The interest was so nominal.
I remember he loaned our buddy Marty acouple thousand dollars to buy a truck
because Glenn would have the money.
And Marty couldn't get a loan, wouldn'tget approved for anything like that.
And it wasn't much.
It was an old, beat up pickup truck.
But Glenn would have the money.
Glenn would be like, I'll loan you themoney for that.
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And I think he charged him a one -timeinterest fee of a couple hundred bucks.
It was nothing.
And Marty took like three years to pay himback.
Sorry, Marty, but you did.
You ran that one up as long as youpossibly could.
But Glenn was that reliable, stable force.
Like despite the fact that we were allmaniacs and moving around and doing so
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many different odd jobs, Glenn alwayssquirreled his way and always knew what to
do.
The rest of us were like scraping quartersout of the couch cushions.
to grab meals when we were ski bombing.
And Glenn was always like, nope, I'mworking my hours.
I've got my bank account.
And he was just always squared away.
Now that is juxtaposed against some of thejobs that he chose to do.
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So probably the most colorful job thatGlenn did during those teenage years and
early years was he decided to take some ofthe money that he already had to fund a
little adventure.
his adventure was a job.
Glenn and my brother Guy decided onesummer that they were going to tour with
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the Grateful Dead.
And their business plan was 19, 18, 18,19, like right in that, like right out of
high school.
Cause I drove them to the side of thefreeway, dropped them off at the side of
the highway so they could get out of mycar with their backpacks, which had all of
their worldly belongings in it so thatthey could hitchhike to a Grateful Dead
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concert.
And that was the start of their summeradventure of following the Grateful Dead
on tour, selling
peanut butter sandwiches in the parkinglot.
And their business plan was to sell enoughpeanut butter sandwiches to hungry,
grateful dead fans to then pay for thenext ticket to the next concert at the
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next city, and then just keep rolling itforward.
Very little on profit margin, very high onquality of experience.
Very high.
And they did it.
Like literally, like they grow back inlike, you know, six weeks later, just a
little bit more frazzled, desperately inneed of a shower, but rich in experience.
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Were they so rich in experience, like didthey just break even on that whole
process?
Or did they make it a little bitter?
statement.
I'm going to say it was a full breakeven.
I'm going to give them the benefit of thedoubt and say they came back with exactly
what they put into it.
I mean, I feel like for that experience,like that's a win.
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Yeah, you're living cost free for sixweeks.
You've mitigated all of your outsideexpenses.
and you're, you're seeing this greatcountry of ours, through the lens of a
Volkswagen mini bus.
You could like write off the knife thatyou're spreading all the peanut butter
with.
Like I'm thinking of the business expenseshere.
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Yeah.
The plastic knife that you, you know, gotfrom, you know, the seven 11 store, in a
pinch.
Cause you needed some Jiffy.
Yeah.
That one.
so, so literally like, you know, he madean entire summer adventure out of that.
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but the reason he's able to do stuff likethat is because like he was always
responsible.
So like when he painted houses after theTerrapin painters,
you know, Fiasco, he went into work for areal painter and he was cranking one
summer.
I mean, he was making so much moneybecause he worked every single day just
hammering through and, you know, made ithappen.
And that's that that was Glenn.
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Like he always knew to work hard, playhard, work hard, play hard.
And that was instilled in him from a veryyoung age.
So then we kind of roll from there intothe ski bum years and
The first story is actually how Glenncouldn't get a job.
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So Glenn, Guy, and I, at this point, likewe're all three peas in a pod.
We'd all decided, and you know the story,decided to drop out of college, take a
year off, and go be ski bums.
And I wanted to go and become aprofessional snowboarder.
And Glenn wanted to be a pro skier.
Guy just wanted to take a year off and gohave some fun.
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But he was also a ripping skier.
So we all went up.
in October of 1990 to the Snowbird annualjob fair.
And I'll never forget Glenn and Guy freshoff their tour with the Grateful Dead did
not get hired for the job fair.
They got denied jobs and I got hired atSnowbird.
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Yeah, I literally like cruised in on aGreyhound bus, rolled up to the job fair.
I get a job and they got clipped.
What job did you get?
so I was a baker's assistant, because Ihad worked at a bakery in high school and
like literally my first official payingwage job was a baker's assistant at, La
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Petite Syrie in Winchester, Massachusetts.
And really I was a ditch digger becausethey had this renovation project out in
the back and I basically shoveled outlike, like this below area so they could
put an underground refrigerator in it wasmiserable work, like miserable.
But whatever, like I didn't care.
I was 16, like 15 years old.
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Like just pay me and I'll do some work.
And it was right next to the skate park,like where this little spot where like the
skateboard.
So I would just like run the wheelbarrowout and then go ride my skateboard around.
It was perfect.
But no, so that winter Glenn and Guy hadto work at Alta.
So they had to go to the next ski resortup to become lifties.
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It was phenomenal.
I loved it.
I was like, you guys couldn't even get ajob at Snowbird.
But during those years, this is kind ofthe second part of the story.
Glenn, consummate athlete that he was,didn't just ski, even though he wanted to
become a pro skier.
He also learned snowboarding.
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He also learned how to telemark ski.
Like his thirst for knowledge to do othersports was unquenchable.
So like literally.
Telemark skiing is one of the hardestphysical activities that you can do on a
mountain, like dropping your knee into aturn.
And then, you know, the, the sec of that,that whole activity of like, you're
basically doing an extended lunge and allthe way down the mountain.
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he loved it, like ate it up, figured outhow to like, you know, do telemarking
through moguls and incredibly graceful.
our buddy, Andy Lots, who we went to highschool with, he was a little bit older
than Glenn and I.
Andy.
who later founded Nixon watches early inhis career.
He worked for Burton snowboards as aproduct guy.
And so Andy would send out, you know,board boots, bindings to Glenn and just
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have gear at the house to learn how tosnowboard and test gear.
And Glenn would just be, yeah, sure.
I'm going to go figure out how tosnowboard.
Like who does that?
Who, and who has a best friend or anotherfriend from high school who just happens
to work at the world's largest snowboardcompany to send you free gear to test out.
Like to us, it was perfectly normal.
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huh.
It's like, that's the, it's like, yeah,there's like the ski pass, but then
there's also like getting all your gearand equipment.
And if you, if you already have all theski stuff, you're not going to go buy all
the snowboard stuff.
Like, yeah.
so literally he was a multi -sportathlete.
Like the guy, you know, Mike Ritlin talkedabout this.
The guy could literally pick up anythingand be really good at it really, really
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fast.
and as his best friend jumping around alittle bit, like I made it my life goal to
beat him at anything I could.
And it, I didn't succeed like throughoutour twenties, like never happened.
I could snowboard.
better than him because that's all I did.
And I just, I dove so deep into it.
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But Glenn, for his part, like, you know,pick up fitness routine.
He's going to smoke you out.
And I'll never forget Glenn introduced meto road cycling.
And this is like mid 2000, like 2005.
And I borrowed a bike and we went on aride and I kind of kept up with them.
And he got, he pumped me up.
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He was like, Sean, you got to do this,man.
Like, this is your sport.
You'd be so good at this.
Like you got to, you got a road bike, man.
Like you're natural.
And I remember like our third ridetogether, third ride, I smoked him and he
was so pissed.
He went from like building me up to Ifucking hate you.
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And that was it.
I bought a road bike.
Like we rode together for years and yearsand it was just awesome.
Like, you know,
great adventures, but like literally Iwould make it my life goal.
And then when we both got into CrossFit,of course, like that we're going to be so
competitive in that.
And I was just like, all I wanted to dowas learn things so that, you know, we
would have that friendly banter back andforth.
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Like, you know, like any great set offriendships that you have there, like you
just, you know, you want to beat yourbuddies and be able to laugh about it
afterwards.
but anyways, I think one of the consummatestories,
to talk about is our epic adventure up toAlaska.
Yeah, this is one that you've teased alittle bit, but I don't know anything
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about.
So that first winter when Glenn and Guydidn't get hired to Alta at the end of
that season, you know, we had all the nextsummer and we hadn't really made huge
plans, but around the springtime, Snowbirdstarting to wind down a little bit.
And Glenn and I have this conversationwhere we're going to go next.
Like our lease is going to be up on theapartment.
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We have to give back.
We had rented all of our furniture.
Like we got to give it all back.
And we literally only had.
Backpacks.
And we're like, well, we'd heard stories.
that you could make a boatload of money onthe fishing boats up in Alaska.
So we're like, awesome.
Let's go to Ketchikan, Alaska, and we'llbecome fishermen.
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We'll go to work on the fishing boats.
So we get dropped off in North Salt Lake,two backpacks, no Grateful Dead peanut
butter sandwiches, just me and Glenn.
And we decide we're going to go andhitchhike up to Seattle, Washington, which
is where
Glenn had some relatives in Anacortes,Washington, and Uncle Bob.
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Glenn's Uncle Bob lived in Anacortes, andwe were going to go hitchhike to him, kind
of recalibrate.
And then from there, we'll catch a ferryup to Alaska, and we'll go get a job on a
fishing boat and have the most epic summerof just catching fish and living on a
boat.
That was our plan.
No experience, just we were going to go doit.
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So.
I mean, two Massachusetts kids, fishermen,like it makes sense.
Yeah.
So we leave Salt Lake, and we catch liketwo quick rides.
Boom, boom.
Next thing you know, we're up in Idaho.
And we end up catching a ride.
And it's like, you know, it's pretty lateat night, slow going.
And this van pulls over.
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And you know, this old, crusty, kind oflike Vietnam vet guy picks us up.
And he's like, hey, guys, come on in.
Where are you going?
And we're like, we're going to Seattle.
And he's like, I'm not going that far, butI'm going pretty darn close.
And we're like, that's awesome.
Because it was like,
We're talking about like an eight hourblock of travel here.
And he's like, yeah, hop in, man.
Like, I got you covered.
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So we started driving.
And now it's probably, I don't know,midnight or something.
The guy got a cooler right next to him.
It's me and him up front.
Glenn's like, man, I'm super tired.
I'm going to rack out out back because itwas a giant Econo van.
And the guy's like, yeah, man, just rollout there, sleep in the back.
So Glenn passes out.
And I'm sitting there.
Guy's like, want a beer?
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And I'm like,
Yeah, drink a beer.
18 years old.
Of course I'm going to drink a beer.
This guy grabs a beer and he drinks abeer.
And then we have another beer and then hehas another beer.
And then that goes on for a few hours.
And I'm not really thinking anything ofit, but I am absolutely lit drunk and I'm
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in the passenger seat and this guy'sdriving and he's telling stories and
swerving back and forth.
And somewhere in there, it's got to belike four o 'clock in the morning.
Glenn wakes up, looks up, but he's like,Hey, what's going on?
And he was like, what's up?
We're hanging out.
We're listening to music.
This is great.
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It's like.
Excuse me, sir.
Can you pull over?
Yeah, sure.
Pulls over.
Sean, get out of the van.
I got out of the van, grabs our backpacks.
Thanks, man.
We're good.
He's like, really?
Sure.
We're we're not even there yet.
We're like, we're totally good, man.
Thanks so much.
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This was awesome.
Like, we got to go though.
He's like, all right.
Drives off and Glenn's like, you are afucking idiot.
And I'm like, yeah.
You
I made sure he stayed awake.
I was writing shotguns, the rules ofshotgun.
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I totally tried that line.
I'm like, I was doing my job.
I mean, sure, you did on the road.
It's like, tish, tish, tish.
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I'm going to go ahead and close the video.
can DM me if they want to get the rest ofit.
But it basically includes phase two was
we decided that the ferry that we weregoing to take, the best ferry was out of
Vancouver in Canada.
So we had to get from Anacortes,Washington to Vancouver.
So it's only like a three hour ride.
Uncle Bob, we hang out there.
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We shower, spend a day with Uncle Bob.
It was awesome.
And then we hop back on the freeway,thumbs out, and we get picked up by an old
Ford pickup truck.
And guys are like, hey, you guys lookcool.
Hop on in.
So hop in.
It's the middle of the day.
This guy is like driving up there and wegot about like an hour before the border
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and he's like, you guys look pretty cool.
Like, he's grilling us, asking usquestions.
Where are you from?
Where are you going?
What are you doing?
And he's like, you guys seem pretty cool.
He's like, here's the deal.
I'll drive you guys wherever you need toget to in Vancouver, which in this case
was my grandmother's house.
But I need you to work with me to get overthe border.
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I'm like, yeah, man.
What do you need anything like we're bestfriends.
You're giving us a ride like you're thebest guy in the world.
He's like, well, you see in the back ofthe truck back there.
Well, I got some I got some Harley partsback there.
And, you know, if they catch me declaringthose Harley parts going over the border,
I'm going to be in big trouble.
So I need you guys to like, be cool withme.
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And he's like, let me see your passports.
And so Glenn gives him a passport and, youknow, American passport.
And my passport was actually Canadianbecause my I had a dual citizenship back
then.
He's like, my God, you're Canadian.
He's like, this is the best ever.
He's like, wow, my luck is so good.
This is great.
So we get up to the border and he's like,Hey, just driving back from Seattle with a
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couple of buddies.
And it's nothing.
We breeze through like that.
Like it's nothing.
And the guy's just like, whew, sigh ofrelief.
Now Glenn and I weren't born yesterday.
We realized we just helped a guy smuggleauto parts over the border.
And then he's like, okay, well, listen, Igot to stop by my buddy's house and just
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stay in the car and don't do anything.
Don't get out of the car.
Don't move.
I'll be right back.
Dude's in that house for over a half hourand Glenn and I are just sitting there
like,
And at some point we're like.
Do you think those are really Harley partsthat were smuggled in the back there?
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And we're like, cause that house doesn'thave any curtains.
Like all the curtains are drawn and youcan't see anything.
And we're like, Hmm.
Suffice it to say we made it to mygrandmother's house and we never quite
unraveled the mystery of what was in theback of the truck.
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Okay, so you never found out?
never found out.
What we do know is that it was a reallysketchy situation and it seemed like
Harley parts in hindsight was probablymaybe a little too mellow.
So we've settled on the idea that we werethe unsuspecting accomplices of some guy
smuggling pounds of marijuana up intoCanada or something.
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We just will never know.
You know, a couple of kids were just like,we're like,
I don't know, this seems kind of weird,don't you think?
And we had just enough street smart toknow that something was wrong and just
enough, like, you know, kind of, I guess,adventure in us not to like get out of the
truck and roll with it.
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But nah, I never did find out what wasback there.
But then we get to Alaska.
All right, so we had two hella greatadventures to get up to Alaska.
And
we end up settling in and you can payrent.
It was like 10 bucks a week to get a giantplatform in this spot called Tent City.
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And all Tent City was a campground.
And you basically buy a giant plastictarp, some PVC tubes and some nails and
screws, and you just build yourself atent, because it rains all the time up
there.
So we built ourselves that and we keptgoing down to the docks.
figuring that a boat was gonna show up andjust hire us on the spot.
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And after a week, it didn't happen.
So we needed money bad.
And so I went and took a couple of quickconstruction jobs like laying rebar and
just doing day labor stuff.
Glenn was doing the same thing.
And then we heard a rumor that the localcannery, fishing cannery was gonna hire.
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So we rolled down there, walked in there,put in an application, hired us on the
spot.
Just you're hired.
What's our job?
Fish gutting.
How do you get a fish?
He's a well, the fish cutters down there.
And then the fish comes to you and youhold this wand with a big knife on the end
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of it with water that squirts out of it.
And you just scrape the middle of the fishand it rips all the guts out of it and the
water jet.
So fish guts are flying everywhere.
And we're just like.
Glenn's on one side, I'm on the otherside.
He got a hair net and like a yellowslicker and just fish guts flying
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everywhere.
And you're just scraping away.
And there's this like little five foot sixmenace who was like the floor manager.
And all he keeps yelling to everyone isfaster, scrape faster.
And we're like 15 minutes in the job.
We're like, I fucking hate that guy.
I hate that guy.
I'm scraping this fish.
Fish guts are hitting me in the face.
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And he's going like.
You're not going fast enough.
Like motherfucker, I've worked for you for15 minutes.
Give me a break.
And, we're an hour into this job and Glennlooks at me and he's like, I can't take it
anymore.
And I'm like, I can't take it anymore.
And he's like, we're quitting.
We're quitting right now.
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Get up literally to like drop everythingon the table, walk up to, you know, like
the, the, the office he booth area.
And they literally had our checks waitingfor us.
Ha ha!
One hour of work at like $15 an hour, hereyou go.
Yeah.
It's like they just knew you were done.
They knew you weren't gonna make it.
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minute we put the handles down, they'relike, Lake and Doherty, they're done.
Checks written.
Here you go.
Get out of here.
man, it was that was the worst job I haveever had in my life.
And I can definitely say that for Glenn aswell.
Well, then there was hitchhiking back fromAlaska.
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So we take the ferry.
No, no, we only have stayed up there forlike three weeks.
And we never got hired on a boat.
Like we could never find a boat to hireus.
So we ended up like the next job was to godown and move to San Francisco and go hang
out with Charlie Shannon, who hadsuccessfully, you know, laid a career out
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for himself as the doorman at amicrobrewery, despite the fact that Chuck
was only 19 years old, because he had afake ID.
And so we decided we would go down andcrash on Chuck's floor.
and figure out a new career path forourselves.
The best part of it was we get down toSeattle, like, you know, we do the whole
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migration down and Glenn's like, hey, Ifound this bus line that we can take from
Seattle all the way to San Francisco.
It's called the Green Tortoise and Googleit.
It's a real bus line.
And I don't know where the routes are now,but they used to just run the Northwest
down to California.
another company named after a turtle.
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Yeah, there's a pattern developing here.
And we literally go to the green tortoise.
And it's like six o 'clock in the morning,seven o 'clock in the morning.
And Glenn realizes he lost his wallet.
Like this guy who would go on to be have astoried career as a Navy SEAL on the
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hitchhiking trip to Alaska loses.
all of his identification, all of hismoney, everything, library card, social
security card, gone, has no idea where itis.
And we've been hitchhiking.
So it's like, God knows where it is.
And there's no air trackers or anythinglike that.
Like this shit is gone.
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So I'm like, all right, man, I love, I'mrelishing in this, right?
Cause I'm like, well, I have money.
I will pay for this.
I will cover you, Glenn.
I've got you covered here.
So we roll up to the bus driver and thisguy's like long shaggy hair.
Hey man, like stoned out of his bejesusbelt.
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And I roll up to him and I'm like, Hey,okay.
So we need to take us to San Francisco.
And he's like, all right.
it's a hundred and $40.
I'm like, no problem.
Hand him a hundred dollar bill.
Hand him a 20 couple of tens.
you know, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, acouple of fives, whatever it was.
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And the guy holds this pile of money, mymoney in his hands.
And he just kind of looks at it and goes,okay.
and hands me the hundred back.
And Glenn kind of goes like this kind oflike speaks like, excuse me, and I just
shoot him an elbow.
He hands me a 20 back.
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And I'm like, you just gave me $120 backon $140 for $140 bus ride.
And he's like, and then he hands me a fiveback.
He's like, I think that's it.
I'm like, Yep, we're good.
Thanks, man.
Just take money.
Put it in my pocket.
I'm like,
We just scored for $15, two bus ticketsfrom Seattle all the way to San Francisco.
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Sweet.
I'm like, shut the fuck up, Glenn.
Like, this is our score.
And the only scary part was that that guywas our bus driver.
So he actually drove us away.
Next thing you know, we're down in SanFrancisco and we both landed a job at the
Marin Brew Company.
So if anyone out there has ever had aMarin Brewing Company beer.
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back in the summer of 1991, Glenn and Iwere your beer bottlers.
We literally worked in the back, like withthe old school cap would fill bottles of
beer and cap them and put them into casepacks.
And you had to be 21 to work.
This is in Marin County.
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Yeah.
Yep.
So we would, we would go in from the cityand, and hang out with, with Charlie
Shannon.
And then we both got hired there to bottlebeer and literally like,
We gave them fake IDs that we had made inhigh school and they accepted our fake IDs
and paid us off of our fake IDs.
So Shawn Lake never worked there.
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If you look at my tax records back to1991, there will be no formal employment
yet.
Somehow I collected a paycheck.
haha
So to Glenn, hey, you know, this is whatwe did back then.
So, so those, I mean, those were just, youknow, a bunch of like those stories.
And then, you know, Glenn joined the Navyand when Glenn was in the Navy, Glenn had
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the job of being a sniper.
And we had one particular Christmastogether, right when Glenn was getting out
of the Navy, but he was still, I think hewas still in the Navy.
It was like 2006, 2007.
And he was house sitting at a buddies ofhis, I think Johnny Olivera's house in
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Salt Lake City or Johnny's sister.
And he's like, Sean, I got an extrabedroom.
I'm like, come on out, man.
So I come out there for Christmas in Utah.
And we were hosting a couple of people fordinner and like Glenn's cooking in the
kitchen because Glenn loved cooking.
Like it was like the guy in casseroles orroasting a bird or something like that.
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He just loved being in the kitchen.
You know, apron on towel over shoulder,chopping up everything.
And this is when like, I think iTunes wasjust taking off.
And so he sets this playlist to be likegreat holiday music and like some
playlists that he had like early iPod, youknow, generation stuff.
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And he's got it set up on his laptop andit was laptops up on the counter.
Cause those are the only speakers that wehad.
And then it's like, Glenn's sitting overhere.
I'm sitting here.
And then, you know, like everyone else issitting around us and I'm the only one
looking towards the laptop or like it'sjust off in the background and we're all
sitting down to dinner.
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It's great meal.
And I kind of glance up and I see thatthere's a photo album playing like somehow
Glenn, I don't think he did it on purpose.
He just had it synced to where for thesongs that were playing like his iPhoto
library would just sort of rotate through.
And so there's a photo of Glenn on theriver when he was a river guide, Glenn
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skiing, friends and family.
And then I kind of glance up and I'm like,that's weird.
It looked like a mountainscape, like adesert mountainscape and whatever.
And then we're eating dinner.
I glance up again and I swear it was likea picture of a giant pool of blood.
But I couldn't quite tell.
Because they're kind of flashing.
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And then I look up again.
And it is very clearly a human head thathad exploded.
Like.
This is during Christmas dinner.
Christmas dinner and no one else can seeit except for me, but I'm like, huh?
And then again, back to another photo andit's like, you know, Glenn's skiing and
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it's all beautiful nature shots.
And then there's another one and is Glennwith a rifle standing over a dead body and
like a couple of his teammates.
Hey Glenn.
And I'm like, try not to make a big dealof it.
I'm like, you know,
You think maybe you could X -Nay on theauto phase?
And he's like, what do you mean, Sean?
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I'm like, X -Nay on the auto phase.
He's like, speak English, Sean.
What do you want from me?
I'm like, kill the photo show.
And he's like, what?
He looks up and he's like, ooh.
It's just the screen saver pulling fromhis eye photos or whatever.
Yeah.
I'm like, I'm like, Hey man, like, youknow, I'm all good with that, but I
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guarantee you that all the other peoplearound this dinner table would probably
lose their marbles over that one.
So just good, funny stuff that, you know,he would just do.
And like, he's like, well, of course I'vegot the photos of all my kill shots or
like my team's kill shots on my computer.
Like everyone has that.
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Nobody else has those.
Nobody.
He wrote a book in 2008, 2009, after hegot out of the Navy called 21st Century
Sniper.
And I encourage everyone to go out and buya copy of this book.
It was literally he wrote this book with aguy named Brandon Webb, another SEAL
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member that he was super close with backthen.
Glenn wrote a bunch of the book and, youknow, Brandon's
gift was that he could get anythingpublished.
Like he just had, he could work theconnections.
Glenn was the work horse who like would doall the writing for it.
But yeah, Glenn wrote a book on snipingpeople.
And so then he had all these videos oflike long distance sniper shots.
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And I would, every once in a while I'dwalk into his office and be like, what are
you working on?
He's like, man, I'm just trying to finishthis chapter in this book.
And I would see this video playing in thebackground.
And it would be like, when a bullet goes
from a sniper rifle, like a half mile awayand hits its target.
It doesn't just like go through a target.
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The target fucking explodes and it's likea pink mist explosion.
Like bodies get torn in half.
And I didn't, I didn't know that.
Like I had no idea that like, you know,these bullets that are, you know, this
big, you know, would do so much damage to,to, to a body once hit.
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But I learned that.
from watching Glenn's videos or just likeglancing at them.
that's one of those, unless you're in it,why would you, why would that come up?
Yeah.
No, man, you absolutely wouldn't know.
But so the, the, the, a couple morestories and then we'll wrap this one up.
Cause again, there's, there's going to bemore of these that get unpacked, but I
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also want to tell the story of Glenn, theCrossFit instructor who taught CrossFit
for four plus years, who never ever had aCrossFit level one certification.
flight oversight on behalf of every gymthat he ever worked with.
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He never had his level one.
He was an instructor.
Or he was he was an instructor quoteunquote.
He has a workout named after him.
Yeah, I'm going to out Glen right now.
He never ever, ever got his level onecert.
He just never bothered.
He's like, what?
I don't need that.
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He's like, I know how to do thesemovements.
I don't need some piece of paper to tellme how to do that.
He's like, I'm going to gain this one aslong as possible.
And truly he did.
He won.
He won the game.
Like it's amazing.
I'm like, he would always have theselittle hacks where he'd be like, look,
I've already done the work.
Like I know how to do it.
And
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You know, when Mark Devine had seal fit,you know, he just had Glenn coach.
I think Mark just naturally assumed thatGlenn had his level one coaches cert
because Glenn was so good.
Get into a room full of people commandtheir respect, articulately take them
through workout progressions and get themthrough the workout.
Like he was, he was gifted.
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Just never certified.
so there's that, and then, so I alwaysliked to dime them out for that one.
Never have I ever gotten his teachingcertificates.
and, and like, literally you're thinkingabout that.
You're like, wait a second.
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Aren't you supposed to have a piece ofpaper?
So, just, you know, something, somethingto say they just, and yes, he's got a
workout named after him and, and he taughtfor years.
in CrossFit gyms.
So I think it's classic.
So again, a ton more stories.
The last scammy story that is kind offunny that I'm going to tell you is at one
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point, Glenn went to the doctor's officefor a routine visit and noticed that
doctors have these stamps, you know, likewhere they sign their names and like, but
you have to have an official doctor'sstamp.
And during one of his office visits, nowkeep in mind, Glenn was a corpsman in the
Navy.
So he had all of his medicalcertifications.
to treat patients, first responder, allthat stuff, EMT.
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And he had to maintain thosecertifications for various duties.
During one of those doctor's visits,somehow that stamp ended up at our house.
I don't know how.
In fact, I didn't even know it was thereuntil one time Glenn was away on
deployment and he hits me up and he'slike, Hey, I got a favor for you.
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I'm like, what's that?
He's like, you know, that stamp that's inmy office.
And I'm like, yeah, I'll, I'll find it.
What he's like, I need you to take thatstamp and the little ink pad that it's
with.
I need you to mail it to one of mycoworkers, you know, gave me the name and
I'm going to omit his name.
Cause I've already dimed him out before.
I'm not going to do it this time.
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and just mail it to him.
I'm like, why Glenn?
Why would I mail a doctor's stamp and sealto one of your coworkers, Glenn?
That seems highly unethical, Glenn.
Tell me why, Glenn.
And he's like, look, we've all taken thistest.
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We've all been certified.
We all know what we're doing.
Just like, you know, we're busy.
We don't have time to deal with this shit.
So just send the stamp.
And I'm like, it's going to cost you,Glenn.
So I send the stamp and you know, the guyhad a very unique name and I'll never
forget it because years later.
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when Glenn died.
that guy showed up at my doorstep to tellme that Glenn had passed.
And he had such a unique name.
And it was like this amazing moment oflightness and brevity during a very
serious moment because he's showing up atmy doorstep with several members of the
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CIA to tell me that, you know, Glenn NavySEAL hero died in action, saving all those
American lives in Benghazi.
And I'm looking at him and I'm like, Iknow you.
And he's like, you do?
And I'm like, kind of leaning in so thatno one else can hear.
I'm like, yeah, I'm the guy who sent youthose, that doctor stamp.
He's like, that was you?
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Thanks, man.
I appreciate it.
got me out of a bind.
Again, horrible circumstances, but likethat was Glenn, man.
Like just bringing people together andtying it all together.
And again, there's countless examples ofthose, but for today's purposes, I just, I
wanted to share those few just fromdifferent ranges of our lives.
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Yeah.
No, that's been one of my favorite partsabout doing the podcast is I know a lot of
the ones where it's been like former teammembers and stuff of Glenn's like it's
been you one -on -one with those, butthey've just been really good stories to
listen to.
So I wanted to, I would love to bring onlike childhood for another childhood
friend or a couple of childhood friendsand do like a little round table with some
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of them.
Yeah.
It was kind of cool on some of these, likehearing you where it's like.
you're hearing stories of things that hedid for the first time.
And it's been kind of cool to watch.
And you're like, and you can see youputting puzzle pieces together.
And you're like, that, OK, like this storyactually makes this make more sense that
you heard 10 years ago kind of thing.
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So yeah.
fun stuff.
So yeah, that those are my Glenn storiesfor this edition of the, the culture rec
podcast.
Yeah, and we'll do more of these in thefuture.
This one was fun.
I know I just kind of sat back and let youtalk, but I like these stories.
So I'm going to do the outro, Sean.
I've got the one actually pulled up fromJimmy Letchford.
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Well, hold on, hold on.
Aren't you gonna ask me where people canfind me?
so Jimmy, I mean Sean.
Thanks for joining us today If people wantto learn more about where to find you and
what you're doing, where should they go?
well, you know, on social media, I run byslaco at S L A K E O, but really just go
to bubs naturals and bubs naturals .comfor all of our social.
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And did I mention we also have a handfulof products designed to help you defy the
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That's a good sign off.
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Thanks guys.
Thank you.
I'm gonna get to play the music withJimmy, I'm gonna like shop it in, but...
yeah, we kinda just jumped right the fuckinto that one.
I'm your X Factor, right?
I'm gonna just, I'm gonna make shit alittle bit different.
What's up everybody?
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Welcome to the Cult of Recreationalismpodcast.
It's a one -on -one show today with me andSean.
If you're watching, if you're on audio,just so you know, it's me and Sean.
This kind of came about, actually, I'llkind of give a little backstory of how we
got here.
Today's gonna be some stories about Glennthat Sean's gonna share.
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Initially when we started this podcast, westarted an episode of how Bubs got started
and Sean,
started that with, well, to know that youneed to know about Bub.
And so he started telling some Bub storiesand it just kind of kept going.
And it was an amazing episode.
It was really cool.
And like Sean cut in and you can interjecthere, but it was really cool episode.
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And he's like, there are so many morewhere that came from.
So we wanted to have just a show where youjust tell some cool Glenn stories where
people can learn more about the namesakeof Bubs.
Yep.
And I would say there's a ton of storiesin Glenn that kind of go with the like, my
God, he was such an inspiration.
He was my best friend.
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He was so many different things.
And then there's the kind of likemischievous fuck off stories.
And these are more geared around that.
So if you're looking to like get the well-rounded picture, this is that part of the
more well -rounded side.
because I feel like we do a really.
it.
Like we did that first intro and I startedjust dropping these little stories in and
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I was like, well, there's so many more.
I literally spent maybe three minutes ofprep to get ready for this show.
And I came up with 11 stories that werejust like top of mind, like, I don't even
have to think too much.
My original thought was to go back todifferent friends.
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from different chapters and ask them fortheir stories because I was in most of
them, but kind of get their perspective.
And then I decided that's a futureepisode.
That's down the line stuff.
So for this one, you know, we can just letit rip.
Yeah, and so, because, like, yeah, all thestories we've told so far are like Glenn
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the hero, Glenn the people who laid downhis life to save others.
And I want to hear stories about Glenn thehitchhiker who went to it.
Like, those are the kind of stories that Iwant to, and I know you've got one about
Alaska that you threw out, just top ofmind, but yeah, let's start off.
Do you have any stories like?
three chapters to the Alaska story.
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There's, I'm going to go younger.
I saw I'm going to go chronologically.
so, so try to remember like setting thestage, like everyone can remember back to
high school.
I had an older brother and my olderbrother was Glenn's best friend.
And there was this whole group of core,core boys.
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We call them the boys and just the boysand, the boys was.
You know, Robin Richardson, Chad Haskell,Phil Savon, Charlie Shannon, you know,
Glenn Guy, and like, you know, like RobinRichardson and all these guys are just
these core community of friends.
And there's so many more to mention thatthe list kind of goes on and on.
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But that group, with the exception ofGlenn, obviously, like we're all still
incredibly tight, running a text thread,you know, 30 some odd years later.
looking back at all of our times togetherand future memories and planning events.
So it's a very core group.
So it really starts with them.
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So, and I might be butchering part of thisin which case any one of them can call me
out for accuracy issues.
But my first story is gonna come in theform of a question, Nathan.
And that is, of all the animals that youwould want to name,
a painting company after, what is the oneyou would choose last?
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of all the animals that you could choose,what would you not choose for a painting
company?
House painting company, like a company isgoing to go out and paint your house.
Yeah, I immediately want to name it aftermy dog, so I'm gonna go like the opposite,
like a bird or something like that.
Okay, so Glenn and Robin and my brotherGuy, and I think Brian Roemer was a part
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of it too, another buddy from high school,decided to name their painting company to
go around the neighborhood and solicitpeople to paint their houses.
And they wanted to call it and did call itTerrapin painters.
Now, a Terrapin is a type of tortoise, aturtle.
So it inspires slow movement, not speed.
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Is that just the Northeast?
I know the Maryland Terrapins.
Is that where the name came from?
It actually came from the Grateful Dead.
So they were all kind of like high schooldeadheads.
And, you know, we're just dabbling in thatwhole like, hey, man, you know, we're
going to hack you sack in the common andall that good stuff.
And I was the younger brother into speedmetal and like just, you know, wanted to
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listen to punk rock and thrash and allthat stuff and skateboard.
And these guys were, you know, soexperimenting with, you know, new age
music.
And but yeah, the predominant voice in theroom.
was Terrapin Painters after a GratefulDead album that had like a turtle on the
front of it.
And I was just like, I remember like beingyoung and a smart ass, me like, is that
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really a good idea guys?
They painted houses one summer.
I think the only houses that they landedwere Robin's parents' house and maybe one
other one.
So it was definitely an act of mercy.
I will not say that best practices wereensued.
There was certainly no.
health insurance, life insurance, or anykind of property damage insurances.
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But yeah, we all painted houses forvarious chapters of our teenage lives.
And it was, I mean, you learn a lotbecause like you're up on a ladder, it's
hot as balls.
And you just got a lot of work to do.
So there's nothing glamorous aboutpainting a house other than it looks
really cool when you're done, if you do agood job.
And the boys all did a really good job.
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We all literally all did it.
And we used to run around and just belike, born to paint.
That's what we do.
We're born to paint.
And I remember after years, Glenn and Iswore ourselves off of painting houses.
We were like, I fucking hate painting.
You just get absolutely burned out on it.
So that was it.
Don't ever call your house paintingcompany Terrapin Painters.
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I think it's just business 101 on thatone.
Well, the next story is kind of a rolloutof that.
And this is kind of a testament to Glenn'ssense of fiscal responsibility.
In those teenage years, we were all, youknow, like learning about the value of
money and your first jobs and, you know,how to have a savings account.
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Glenn was light years ahead of all of us.
Like he had a bank account immediately.
He had a paper route when he was, youknow, in the eighth grade, he or earlier,
like he always had money.
And he wasn't rich.
He just saved his money.
He was frugal from day one.
He just always had cash.
And he was always willing to lend hisfriends money.
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Think about that.
A buddy who's just always there and he'swilling to loan you money.
And Glenn earned a nickname, BOG, the Bankof Glenn.
And that was well established from histeenage years on all the way through our
ski bum years.
Glenn was always loaning money to hishomies.
Was he loaning it with interest?
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Okay.
The interest was so nominal.
I remember he loaned our buddy Marty acouple thousand dollars to buy a truck
because Glenn would have the money.
And Marty couldn't get a loan, wouldn'tget approved for anything like that.
And it wasn't much.
It was an old, beat up pickup truck.
But Glenn would have the money.
Glenn would be like, I'll loan you themoney for that.
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And I think he charged him a one -timeinterest fee of a couple hundred bucks.
It was nothing.
And Marty took like three years to pay himback.
Sorry, Marty, but you did.
You ran that one up as long as youpossibly could.
But Glenn was that reliable, stable force.
Like despite the fact that we were allmaniacs and moving around and doing so
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many different odd jobs, Glenn alwayssquirreled his way and always knew what to
do.
The rest of us were like scraping quartersout of the couch cushions.
to grab meals when we were ski bombing.
And Glenn was always like, nope, I'mworking my hours.
I've got my bank account.
And he was just always squared away.
Now that is juxtaposed against some of thejobs that he chose to do.
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So probably the most colorful job thatGlenn did during those teenage years and
early years was he decided to take some ofthe money that he already had to fund a
little adventure.
his adventure was a job.
Glenn and my brother Guy decided onesummer that they were going to tour with
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the Grateful Dead.
And their business plan was 19, 18, 18,19, like right in that, like right out of
high school.
Cause I drove them to the side of thefreeway, dropped them off at the side of
the highway so they could get out of mycar with their backpacks, which had all of
their worldly belongings in it so thatthey could hitchhike to a Grateful Dead
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concert.
And that was the start of their summeradventure of following the Grateful Dead
on tour, selling
peanut butter sandwiches in the parkinglot.
And their business plan was to sell enoughpeanut butter sandwiches to hungry,
grateful dead fans to then pay for thenext ticket to the next concert at the
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next city, and then just keep rolling itforward.
Very little on profit margin, very high onquality of experience.
Very high.
And they did it.
Like literally, like they grow back inlike, you know, six weeks later, just a
little bit more frazzled, desperately inneed of a shower, but rich in experience.
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Were they so rich in experience, like didthey just break even on that whole
process?
Or did they make it a little bitter?
statement.
I'm going to say it was a full breakeven.
I'm going to give them the benefit of thedoubt and say they came back with exactly
what they put into it.
I mean, I feel like for that experience,like that's a win.
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Yeah, you're living cost free for sixweeks.
You've mitigated all of your outsideexpenses.
and you're, you're seeing this greatcountry of ours, through the lens of a
Volkswagen mini bus.
You could like write off the knife thatyou're spreading all the peanut butter
with.
Like I'm thinking of the business expenseshere.
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Yeah.
The plastic knife that you, you know, gotfrom, you know, the seven 11 store, in a
pinch.
Cause you needed some Jiffy.
Yeah.
That one.
so, so literally like, you know, he madean entire summer adventure out of that.
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but the reason he's able to do stuff likethat is because like he was always
responsible.
So like when he painted houses after theTerrapin painters,
you know, Fiasco, he went into work for areal painter and he was cranking one
summer.
I mean, he was making so much moneybecause he worked every single day just
hammering through and, you know, made ithappen.
And that's that that was Glenn.
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Like he always knew to work hard, playhard, work hard, play hard.
And that was instilled in him from a veryyoung age.
So then we kind of roll from there intothe ski bum years and
The first story is actually how Glenncouldn't get a job.
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So Glenn, Guy, and I, at this point, likewe're all three peas in a pod.
We'd all decided, and you know the story,decided to drop out of college, take a
year off, and go be ski bums.
And I wanted to go and become aprofessional snowboarder.
And Glenn wanted to be a pro skier.
Guy just wanted to take a year off and gohave some fun.
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But he was also a ripping skier.
So we all went up.
in October of 1990 to the Snowbird annualjob fair.
And I'll never forget Glenn and Guy freshoff their tour with the Grateful Dead did
not get hired for the job fair.
They got denied jobs and I got hired atSnowbird.
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Yeah, I literally like cruised in on aGreyhound bus, rolled up to the job fair.
I get a job and they got clipped.
What job did you get?
so I was a baker's assistant, because Ihad worked at a bakery in high school and
like literally my first official payingwage job was a baker's assistant at, La
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Petite Syrie in Winchester, Massachusetts.
And really I was a ditch digger becausethey had this renovation project out in
the back and I basically shoveled outlike, like this below area so they could
put an underground refrigerator in it wasmiserable work, like miserable.
But whatever, like I didn't care.
I was 16, like 15 years old.
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Like just pay me and I'll do some work.
And it was right next to the skate park,like where this little spot where like the
skateboard.
So I would just like run the wheelbarrowout and then go ride my skateboard around.
It was perfect.
But no, so that winter Glenn and Guy hadto work at Alta.
So they had to go to the next ski resortup to become lifties.
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It was phenomenal.
I loved it.
I was like, you guys couldn't even get ajob at Snowbird.
But during those years, this is kind ofthe second part of the story.
Glenn, consummate athlete that he was,didn't just ski, even though he wanted to
become a pro skier.
He also learned snowboarding.
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He also learned how to telemark ski.
Like his thirst for knowledge to do othersports was unquenchable.
So like literally.
Telemark skiing is one of the hardestphysical activities that you can do on a
mountain, like dropping your knee into aturn.
And then, you know, the, the sec of that,that whole activity of like, you're
basically doing an extended lunge and allthe way down the mountain.
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he loved it, like ate it up, figured outhow to like, you know, do telemarking
through moguls and incredibly graceful.
our buddy, Andy Lots, who we went to highschool with, he was a little bit older
than Glenn and I.
Andy.
who later founded Nixon watches early inhis career.
He worked for Burton snowboards as aproduct guy.
And so Andy would send out, you know,board boots, bindings to Glenn and just
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have gear at the house to learn how tosnowboard and test gear.
And Glenn would just be, yeah, sure.
I'm going to go figure out how tosnowboard.
Like who does that?
Who, and who has a best friend or anotherfriend from high school who just happens
to work at the world's largest snowboardcompany to send you free gear to test out.
Like to us, it was perfectly normal.
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huh.
It's like, that's the, it's like, yeah,there's like the ski pass, but then
there's also like getting all your gearand equipment.
And if you, if you already have all theski stuff, you're not going to go buy all
the snowboard stuff.
Like, yeah.
so literally he was a multi -sportathlete.
Like the guy, you know, Mike Ritlin talkedabout this.
The guy could literally pick up anythingand be really good at it really, really
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fast.
and as his best friend jumping around alittle bit, like I made it my life goal to
beat him at anything I could.
And it, I didn't succeed like throughoutour twenties, like never happened.
I could snowboard.
better than him because that's all I did.
And I just, I dove so deep into it.
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But Glenn, for his part, like, you know,pick up fitness routine.
He's going to smoke you out.
And I'll never forget Glenn introduced meto road cycling.
And this is like mid 2000, like 2005.
And I borrowed a bike and we went on aride and I kind of kept up with them.
And he got, he pumped me up.
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He was like, Sean, you got to do this,man.
Like, this is your sport.
You'd be so good at this.
Like you got to, you got a road bike, man.
Like you're natural.
And I remember like our third ridetogether, third ride, I smoked him and he
was so pissed.
He went from like building me up to Ifucking hate you.
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And that was it.
I bought a road bike.
Like we rode together for years and yearsand it was just awesome.
Like, you know,
great adventures, but like literally Iwould make it my life goal.
And then when we both got into CrossFit,of course, like that we're going to be so
competitive in that.
And I was just like, all I wanted to dowas learn things so that, you know, we
would have that friendly banter back andforth.
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Like, you know, like any great set offriendships that you have there, like you
just, you know, you want to beat yourbuddies and be able to laugh about it
afterwards.
but anyways, I think one of the consummatestories,
to talk about is our epic adventure up toAlaska.
Yeah, this is one that you've teased alittle bit, but I don't know anything
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about.
So that first winter when Glenn and Guydidn't get hired to Alta at the end of
that season, you know, we had all the nextsummer and we hadn't really made huge
plans, but around the springtime, Snowbirdstarting to wind down a little bit.
And Glenn and I have this conversationwhere we're going to go next.
Like our lease is going to be up on theapartment.
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We have to give back.
We had rented all of our furniture.
Like we got to give it all back.
And we literally only had.
Backpacks.
And we're like, well, we'd heard stories.
that you could make a boatload of money onthe fishing boats up in Alaska.
So we're like, awesome.
Let's go to Ketchikan, Alaska, and we'llbecome fishermen.
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We'll go to work on the fishing boats.
So we get dropped off in North Salt Lake,two backpacks, no Grateful Dead peanut
butter sandwiches, just me and Glenn.
And we decide we're going to go andhitchhike up to Seattle, Washington, which
is where
Glenn had some relatives in Anacortes,Washington, and Uncle Bob.
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Glenn's Uncle Bob lived in Anacortes, andwe were going to go hitchhike to him, kind
of recalibrate.
And then from there, we'll catch a ferryup to Alaska, and we'll go get a job on a
fishing boat and have the most epic summerof just catching fish and living on a
boat.
That was our plan.
No experience, just we were going to go doit.
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So.
I mean, two Massachusetts kids, fishermen,like it makes sense.
Yeah.
So we leave Salt Lake, and we catch liketwo quick rides.
Boom, boom.
Next thing you know, we're up in Idaho.
And we end up catching a ride.
And it's like, you know, it's pretty lateat night, slow going.
And this van pulls over.
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And you know, this old, crusty, kind oflike Vietnam vet guy picks us up.
And he's like, hey, guys, come on in.
Where are you going?
And we're like, we're going to Seattle.
And he's like, I'm not going that far, butI'm going pretty darn close.
And we're like, that's awesome.
Because it was like,
We're talking about like an eight hourblock of travel here.
And he's like, yeah, hop in, man.
Like, I got you covered.
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So we started driving.
And now it's probably, I don't know,midnight or something.
The guy got a cooler right next to him.
It's me and him up front.
Glenn's like, man, I'm super tired.
I'm going to rack out out back because itwas a giant Econo van.
And the guy's like, yeah, man, just rollout there, sleep in the back.
So Glenn passes out.
And I'm sitting there.
Guy's like, want a beer?
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And I'm like,
Yeah, drink a beer.
18 years old.
Of course I'm going to drink a beer.
This guy grabs a beer and he drinks abeer.
And then we have another beer and then hehas another beer.
And then that goes on for a few hours.
And I'm not really thinking anything ofit, but I am absolutely lit drunk and I'm
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in the passenger seat and this guy'sdriving and he's telling stories and
swerving back and forth.
And somewhere in there, it's got to belike four o 'clock in the morning.
Glenn wakes up, looks up, but he's like,Hey, what's going on?
And he was like, what's up?
We're hanging out.
We're listening to music.
This is great.
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It's like.
Excuse me, sir.
Can you pull over?
Yeah, sure.
Pulls over.
Sean, get out of the van.
I got out of the van, grabs our backpacks.
Thanks, man.
We're good.
He's like, really?
Sure.
We're we're not even there yet.
We're like, we're totally good, man.
Thanks so much.
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This was awesome.
Like, we got to go though.
He's like, all right.
Drives off and Glenn's like, you are afucking idiot.
And I'm like, yeah.
You
I made sure he stayed awake.
I was writing shotguns, the rules ofshotgun.
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I totally tried that line.
I'm like, I was doing my job.
I mean, sure, you did on the road.
It's like, tish, tish, tish.
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I'm going to go ahead and close the video.
can DM me if they want to get the rest ofit.
But it basically includes phase two was
we decided that the ferry that we weregoing to take, the best ferry was out of
Vancouver in Canada.
So we had to get from Anacortes,Washington to Vancouver.
So it's only like a three hour ride.
Uncle Bob, we hang out there.
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We shower, spend a day with Uncle Bob.
It was awesome.
And then we hop back on the freeway,thumbs out, and we get picked up by an old
Ford pickup truck.
And guys are like, hey, you guys lookcool.
Hop on in.
So hop in.
It's the middle of the day.
This guy is like driving up there and wegot about like an hour before the border
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and he's like, you guys look pretty cool.
Like, he's grilling us, asking usquestions.
Where are you from?
Where are you going?
What are you doing?
And he's like, you guys seem pretty cool.
He's like, here's the deal.
I'll drive you guys wherever you need toget to in Vancouver, which in this case
was my grandmother's house.
But I need you to work with me to get overthe border.
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I'm like, yeah, man.
What do you need anything like we're bestfriends.
You're giving us a ride like you're thebest guy in the world.
He's like, well, you see in the back ofthe truck back there.
Well, I got some I got some Harley partsback there.
And, you know, if they catch me declaringthose Harley parts going over the border,
I'm going to be in big trouble.
So I need you guys to like, be cool withme.
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And he's like, let me see your passports.
And so Glenn gives him a passport and, youknow, American passport.
And my passport was actually Canadianbecause my I had a dual citizenship back
then.
He's like, my God, you're Canadian.
He's like, this is the best ever.
He's like, wow, my luck is so good.
This is great.
So we get up to the border and he's like,Hey, just driving back from Seattle with a
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couple of buddies.
And it's nothing.
We breeze through like that.
Like it's nothing.
And the guy's just like, whew, sigh ofrelief.
Now Glenn and I weren't born yesterday.
We realized we just helped a guy smuggleauto parts over the border.
And then he's like, okay, well, listen, Igot to stop by my buddy's house and just
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stay in the car and don't do anything.
Don't get out of the car.
Don't move.
I'll be right back.
Dude's in that house for over a half hourand Glenn and I are just sitting there
like,
And at some point we're like.
Do you think those are really Harley partsthat were smuggled in the back there?
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And we're like, cause that house doesn'thave any curtains.
Like all the curtains are drawn and youcan't see anything.
And we're like, Hmm.
Suffice it to say we made it to mygrandmother's house and we never quite
unraveled the mystery of what was in theback of the truck.
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Okay, so you never found out?
never found out.
What we do know is that it was a reallysketchy situation and it seemed like
Harley parts in hindsight was probablymaybe a little too mellow.
So we've settled on the idea that we werethe unsuspecting accomplices of some guy
smuggling pounds of marijuana up intoCanada or something.
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We just will never know.
You know, a couple of kids were just like,we're like,
I don't know, this seems kind of weird,don't you think?
And we had just enough street smart toknow that something was wrong and just
enough, like, you know, kind of, I guess,adventure in us not to like get out of the
truck and roll with it.
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But nah, I never did find out what wasback there.
But then we get to Alaska.
All right, so we had two hella greatadventures to get up to Alaska.
And
we end up settling in and you can payrent.
It was like 10 bucks a week to get a giantplatform in this spot called Tent City.
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And all Tent City was a campground.
And you basically buy a giant plastictarp, some PVC tubes and some nails and
screws, and you just build yourself atent, because it rains all the time up
there.
So we built ourselves that and we keptgoing down to the docks.
figuring that a boat was gonna show up andjust hire us on the spot.
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And after a week, it didn't happen.
So we needed money bad.
And so I went and took a couple of quickconstruction jobs like laying rebar and
just doing day labor stuff.
Glenn was doing the same thing.
And then we heard a rumor that the localcannery, fishing cannery was gonna hire.
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So we rolled down there, walked in there,put in an application, hired us on the
spot.
Just you're hired.
What's our job?
Fish gutting.
How do you get a fish?
He's a well, the fish cutters down there.
And then the fish comes to you and youhold this wand with a big knife on the end
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of it with water that squirts out of it.
And you just scrape the middle of the fishand it rips all the guts out of it and the
water jet.
So fish guts are flying everywhere.
And we're just like.
Glenn's on one side, I'm on the otherside.
He got a hair net and like a yellowslicker and just fish guts flying
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everywhere.
And you're just scraping away.
And there's this like little five foot sixmenace who was like the floor manager.
And all he keeps yelling to everyone isfaster, scrape faster.
And we're like 15 minutes in the job.
We're like, I fucking hate that guy.
I hate that guy.
I'm scraping this fish.
Fish guts are hitting me in the face.
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And he's going like.
You're not going fast enough.
Like motherfucker, I've worked for you for15 minutes.
Give me a break.
And, we're an hour into this job and Glennlooks at me and he's like, I can't take it
anymore.
And I'm like, I can't take it anymore.
And he's like, we're quitting.
We're quitting right now.
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Get up literally to like drop everythingon the table, walk up to, you know, like
the, the, the office he booth area.
And they literally had our checks waitingfor us.
Ha ha!
One hour of work at like $15 an hour, hereyou go.
Yeah.
It's like they just knew you were done.
They knew you weren't gonna make it.
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minute we put the handles down, they'relike, Lake and Doherty, they're done.
Checks written.
Here you go.
Get out of here.
man, it was that was the worst job I haveever had in my life.
And I can definitely say that for Glenn aswell.
Well, then there was hitchhiking back fromAlaska.
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So we take the ferry.
No, no, we only have stayed up there forlike three weeks.
And we never got hired on a boat.
Like we could never find a boat to hireus.
So we ended up like the next job was to godown and move to San Francisco and go hang
out with Charlie Shannon, who hadsuccessfully, you know, laid a career out
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for himself as the doorman at amicrobrewery, despite the fact that Chuck
was only 19 years old, because he had afake ID.
And so we decided we would go down andcrash on Chuck's floor.
and figure out a new career path forourselves.
The best part of it was we get down toSeattle, like, you know, we do the whole
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migration down and Glenn's like, hey, Ifound this bus line that we can take from
Seattle all the way to San Francisco.
It's called the Green Tortoise and Googleit.
It's a real bus line.
And I don't know where the routes are now,but they used to just run the Northwest
down to California.
another company named after a turtle.
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Yeah, there's a pattern developing here.
And we literally go to the green tortoise.
And it's like six o 'clock in the morning,seven o 'clock in the morning.
And Glenn realizes he lost his wallet.
Like this guy who would go on to be have astoried career as a Navy SEAL on the
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hitchhiking trip to Alaska loses.
all of his identification, all of hismoney, everything, library card, social
security card, gone, has no idea where itis.
And we've been hitchhiking.
So it's like, God knows where it is.
And there's no air trackers or anythinglike that.
Like this shit is gone.
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So I'm like, all right, man, I love, I'mrelishing in this, right?
Cause I'm like, well, I have money.
I will pay for this.
I will cover you, Glenn.
I've got you covered here.
So we roll up to the bus driver and thisguy's like long shaggy hair.
Hey man, like stoned out of his bejesusbelt.
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And I roll up to him and I'm like, Hey,okay.
So we need to take us to San Francisco.
And he's like, all right.
it's a hundred and $40.
I'm like, no problem.
Hand him a hundred dollar bill.
Hand him a 20 couple of tens.
you know, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, acouple of fives, whatever it was.
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And the guy holds this pile of money, mymoney in his hands.
And he just kind of looks at it and goes,okay.
and hands me the hundred back.
And Glenn kind of goes like this kind oflike speaks like, excuse me, and I just
shoot him an elbow.
He hands me a 20 back.
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And I'm like, you just gave me $120 backon $140 for $140 bus ride.
And he's like, and then he hands me a fiveback.
He's like, I think that's it.
I'm like, Yep, we're good.
Thanks, man.
Just take money.
Put it in my pocket.
I'm like,
We just scored for $15, two bus ticketsfrom Seattle all the way to San Francisco.
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Sweet.
I'm like, shut the fuck up, Glenn.
Like, this is our score.
And the only scary part was that that guywas our bus driver.
So he actually drove us away.
Next thing you know, we're down in SanFrancisco and we both landed a job at the
Marin Brew Company.
So if anyone out there has ever had aMarin Brewing Company beer.
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back in the summer of 1991, Glenn and Iwere your beer bottlers.
We literally worked in the back, like withthe old school cap would fill bottles of
beer and cap them and put them into casepacks.
And you had to be 21 to work.
This is in Marin County.
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Yeah.
Yep.
So we would, we would go in from the cityand, and hang out with, with Charlie
Shannon.
And then we both got hired there to bottlebeer and literally like,
We gave them fake IDs that we had made inhigh school and they accepted our fake IDs
and paid us off of our fake IDs.
So Shawn Lake never worked there.
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If you look at my tax records back to1991, there will be no formal employment
yet.
Somehow I collected a paycheck.
haha
So to Glenn, hey, you know, this is whatwe did back then.
So, so those, I mean, those were just, youknow, a bunch of like those stories.
And then, you know, Glenn joined the Navyand when Glenn was in the Navy, Glenn had
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the job of being a sniper.
And we had one particular Christmastogether, right when Glenn was getting out
of the Navy, but he was still, I think hewas still in the Navy.
It was like 2006, 2007.
And he was house sitting at a buddies ofhis, I think Johnny Olivera's house in
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Salt Lake City or Johnny's sister.
And he's like, Sean, I got an extrabedroom.
I'm like, come on out, man.
So I come out there for Christmas in Utah.
And we were hosting a couple of people fordinner and like Glenn's cooking in the
kitchen because Glenn loved cooking.
Like it was like the guy in casseroles orroasting a bird or something like that.
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He just loved being in the kitchen.
You know, apron on towel over shoulder,chopping up everything.
And this is when like, I think iTunes wasjust taking off.
And so he sets this playlist to be likegreat holiday music and like some
playlists that he had like early iPod, youknow, generation stuff.
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And he's got it set up on his laptop andit was laptops up on the counter.
Cause those are the only speakers that wehad.
And then it's like, Glenn's sitting overhere.
I'm sitting here.
And then, you know, like everyone else issitting around us and I'm the only one
looking towards the laptop or like it'sjust off in the background and we're all
sitting down to dinner.
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It's great meal.
And I kind of glance up and I see thatthere's a photo album playing like somehow
Glenn, I don't think he did it on purpose.
He just had it synced to where for thesongs that were playing like his iPhoto
library would just sort of rotate through.
And so there's a photo of Glenn on theriver when he was a river guide, Glenn
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skiing, friends and family.
And then I kind of glance up and I'm like,that's weird.
It looked like a mountainscape, like adesert mountainscape and whatever.
And then we're eating dinner.
I glance up again and I swear it was likea picture of a giant pool of blood.
But I couldn't quite tell.
Because they're kind of flashing.
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And then I look up again.
And it is very clearly a human head thathad exploded.
Like.
This is during Christmas dinner.
Christmas dinner and no one else can seeit except for me, but I'm like, huh?
And then again, back to another photo andit's like, you know, Glenn's skiing and
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it's all beautiful nature shots.
And then there's another one and is Glennwith a rifle standing over a dead body and
like a couple of his teammates.
Hey Glenn.
And I'm like, try not to make a big dealof it.
I'm like, you know,
You think maybe you could X -Nay on theauto phase?
And he's like, what do you mean, Sean?
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I'm like, X -Nay on the auto phase.
He's like, speak English, Sean.
What do you want from me?
I'm like, kill the photo show.
And he's like, what?
He looks up and he's like, ooh.
It's just the screen saver pulling fromhis eye photos or whatever.
Yeah.
I'm like, I'm like, Hey man, like, youknow, I'm all good with that, but I
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guarantee you that all the other peoplearound this dinner table would probably
lose their marbles over that one.
So just good, funny stuff that, you know,he would just do.
And like, he's like, well, of course I'vegot the photos of all my kill shots or
like my team's kill shots on my computer.
Like everyone has that.
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Nobody else has those.
Nobody.
He wrote a book in 2008, 2009, after hegot out of the Navy called 21st Century
Sniper.
And I encourage everyone to go out and buya copy of this book.
It was literally he wrote this book with aguy named Brandon Webb, another SEAL
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member that he was super close with backthen.
Glenn wrote a bunch of the book and, youknow, Brandon's
gift was that he could get anythingpublished.
Like he just had, he could work theconnections.
Glenn was the work horse who like would doall the writing for it.
But yeah, Glenn wrote a book on snipingpeople.
And so then he had all these videos oflike long distance sniper shots.
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And I would, every once in a while I'dwalk into his office and be like, what are
you working on?
He's like, man, I'm just trying to finishthis chapter in this book.
And I would see this video playing in thebackground.
And it would be like, when a bullet goes
from a sniper rifle, like a half mile awayand hits its target.
It doesn't just like go through a target.
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The target fucking explodes and it's likea pink mist explosion.
Like bodies get torn in half.
And I didn't, I didn't know that.
Like I had no idea that like, you know,these bullets that are, you know, this
big, you know, would do so much damage to,to, to a body once hit.
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But I learned that.
from watching Glenn's videos or just likeglancing at them.
that's one of those, unless you're in it,why would you, why would that come up?
Yeah.
No, man, you absolutely wouldn't know.
But so the, the, the, a couple morestories and then we'll wrap this one up.
Cause again, there's, there's going to bemore of these that get unpacked, but I
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also want to tell the story of Glenn, theCrossFit instructor who taught CrossFit
for four plus years, who never ever had aCrossFit level one certification.
flight oversight on behalf of every gymthat he ever worked with.
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He never had his level one.
He was an instructor.
Or he was he was an instructor quoteunquote.
He has a workout named after him.
Yeah, I'm going to out Glen right now.
He never ever, ever got his level onecert.
He just never bothered.
He's like, what?
I don't need that.
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He's like, I know how to do thesemovements.
I don't need some piece of paper to tellme how to do that.
He's like, I'm going to gain this one aslong as possible.
And truly he did.
He won.
He won the game.
Like it's amazing.
I'm like, he would always have theselittle hacks where he'd be like, look,
I've already done the work.
Like I know how to do it.
And
(40:56):
You know, when Mark Devine had seal fit,you know, he just had Glenn coach.
I think Mark just naturally assumed thatGlenn had his level one coaches cert
because Glenn was so good.
Get into a room full of people commandtheir respect, articulately take them
through workout progressions and get themthrough the workout.
Like he was, he was gifted.
(41:17):
Just never certified.
so there's that, and then, so I alwaysliked to dime them out for that one.
Never have I ever gotten his teachingcertificates.
and, and like, literally you're thinkingabout that.
You're like, wait a second.
(41:38):
Aren't you supposed to have a piece ofpaper?
So, just, you know, something, somethingto say they just, and yes, he's got a
workout named after him and, and he taughtfor years.
in CrossFit gyms.
So I think it's classic.
So again, a ton more stories.
The last scammy story that is kind offunny that I'm going to tell you is at one
(42:01):
point, Glenn went to the doctor's officefor a routine visit and noticed that
doctors have these stamps, you know, likewhere they sign their names and like, but
you have to have an official doctor'sstamp.
And during one of his office visits, nowkeep in mind, Glenn was a corpsman in the
Navy.
So he had all of his medicalcertifications.
to treat patients, first responder, allthat stuff, EMT.
(42:25):
And he had to maintain thosecertifications for various duties.
During one of those doctor's visits,somehow that stamp ended up at our house.
I don't know how.
In fact, I didn't even know it was thereuntil one time Glenn was away on
deployment and he hits me up and he'slike, Hey, I got a favor for you.
(42:46):
I'm like, what's that?
He's like, you know, that stamp that's inmy office.
And I'm like, yeah, I'll, I'll find it.
What he's like, I need you to take thatstamp and the little ink pad that it's
with.
I need you to mail it to one of mycoworkers, you know, gave me the name and
I'm going to omit his name.
Cause I've already dimed him out before.
I'm not going to do it this time.
(43:07):
and just mail it to him.
I'm like, why Glenn?
Why would I mail a doctor's stamp and sealto one of your coworkers, Glenn?
That seems highly unethical, Glenn.
Tell me why, Glenn.
And he's like, look, we've all taken thistest.
(43:28):
We've all been certified.
We all know what we're doing.
Just like, you know, we're busy.
We don't have time to deal with this shit.
So just send the stamp.
And I'm like, it's going to cost you,Glenn.
So I send the stamp and you know, the guyhad a very unique name and I'll never
forget it because years later.
(43:49):
when Glenn died.
that guy showed up at my doorstep to tellme that Glenn had passed.
And he had such a unique name.
And it was like this amazing moment oflightness and brevity during a very
serious moment because he's showing up atmy doorstep with several members of the
(44:13):
CIA to tell me that, you know, Glenn NavySEAL hero died in action, saving all those
American lives in Benghazi.
And I'm looking at him and I'm like, Iknow you.
And he's like, you do?
And I'm like, kind of leaning in so thatno one else can hear.
I'm like, yeah, I'm the guy who sent youthose, that doctor stamp.
He's like, that was you?
(44:33):
Thanks, man.
I appreciate it.
got me out of a bind.
Again, horrible circumstances, but likethat was Glenn, man.
Like just bringing people together andtying it all together.
And again, there's countless examples ofthose, but for today's purposes, I just, I
wanted to share those few just fromdifferent ranges of our lives.
(44:55):
Yeah.
No, that's been one of my favorite partsabout doing the podcast is I know a lot of
the ones where it's been like former teammembers and stuff of Glenn's like it's
been you one -on -one with those, butthey've just been really good stories to
listen to.
So I wanted to, I would love to bring onlike childhood for another childhood
friend or a couple of childhood friendsand do like a little round table with some
(45:16):
of them.
Yeah.
It was kind of cool on some of these, likehearing you where it's like.
you're hearing stories of things that hedid for the first time.
And it's been kind of cool to watch.
And you're like, and you can see youputting puzzle pieces together.
And you're like, that, OK, like this storyactually makes this make more sense that
you heard 10 years ago kind of thing.
(45:39):
So yeah.
fun stuff.
So yeah, that those are my Glenn storiesfor this edition of the, the culture rec
podcast.
Yeah, and we'll do more of these in thefuture.
This one was fun.
I know I just kind of sat back and let youtalk, but I like these stories.
So I'm going to do the outro, Sean.
I've got the one actually pulled up fromJimmy Letchford.
(46:00):
Well, hold on, hold on.
Aren't you gonna ask me where people canfind me?
so Jimmy, I mean Sean.
Thanks for joining us today If people wantto learn more about where to find you and
what you're doing, where should they go?
well, you know, on social media, I run byslaco at S L A K E O, but really just go
to bubs naturals and bubs naturals .comfor all of our social.
(46:23):
And did I mention we also have a handfulof products designed to help you defy the
aging process or as I like to say, dieyoung as late as possible.
That's a good sign off.
Guys, thanks for listening.
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Thank you.
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