355 - Making Magic with Eric Buss - The Dad Podcast

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Thank you, jas Than Crazy.Hello and welcome to the Dad Podcast.

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I'm your host, Justin Warsham withme today at studio is a new friend
of mine, fellow dad at theschool, magician, funny guy, Eric
Buss. You find him at ericbus dot com. That is correct.
Thanks for being on the show,My man, pleasure, pleasure. Look
you have you have one son,right, yep? And how old is

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your son? He is seven?Just turned seven a month ago. So
you're new to the whole, likeyou're new to this public school sort of,
you're a couple of years into itnow, second year at the public
school. Yeah, how how isHow are you? How are you liking
When I first started it's it's kindof a thing that happened on the show.
When my oldest son, Jacob gotinto kindergarten, I went off on

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a tantrum, and I mean thatin every sense of the word tantrum.
I threw a fit asy fit aboutthe school supplies list that they were asking
us to contribute paper and pencils,and I got I didn't throw a fit,
but I remember seeing that going really, yeah, we're supposed to send
him with all of this? Yeah, yeah, it was it was.
It was one of those It wasone of those milestones where I became another

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step closer to becoming my father,where you know, my pants were just
coming closer to my stern him alittle bit, where I just like taxes
calling for that's exactly, and theysend a desk with them, a laptop.
Well, you have to load upthe minivan and bluss everybody in what's
what's the level of commitment here?And it's funny because I get into it,
and then as time goes by,and then I became more involved on

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like the Booster Club, pta yourealize that not only have those lists been
around for like twenty years, butuh, it's kind of like, hey,
there's not a lot of money,guys, there's not a lot of
money for the school, and it'sbetter than the teacher paying for it.
And I think the only part thatreally bothered me is that you have to
bring like one for everybody. Butthen you realize that there's only like three
or four parents who bring everything.Yeah, pretty much I have learned that.

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And then also the other thing I'velearned too is that that's a list
that's created by the district, soit's not even a thing that there is
specific, No, not even teacherspecific. Oftentimes the teacher doesn't want some
of the things that are on thelist. Wipes, Kleenex, those seem
to be like general, like youknow, dry race markers. That's that
seems to be the general stuff thatthey get into. But now I wait

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till to second week, and thenI go by the teacher that I said,
listen, whatever you didn't get fromthe list that you want, you
let me know and I'll get it, kind of like Christmas. Yeah,
that makes sense. I like,I'm a school Santa that that makes a
lot of sense. But I gottabe honest with you. Um, I'll
admit this because this is a safespace, right Yeah. Yeah. When
when we started at this school andwhen we started being parenting, I just

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kind of thought my wife is smarterthan me. I'm gonna follow her lead,
and I'll do the man stuff aroundthe house, the chores, and
I'll protect my kid. But I'mnot going to stress over pencils at school
or be that. You know,if he's going to a nice school,
I'm just gonna assume they're teaching himeverything it's good. Until I see a

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problem. I'm just gonna assume it'sgreat. Do you see like you seem
concerned, like you're saying it's asafe face. Are you worried that that
is a negative mentality to have,Like is this a bad way? No?
Are you kidding? It's the up. Yeah. I mean a lot
of people would think, you know, well, why wouldn't you see you
know, why wouldn't you read allthe flyers that go home with your kid
from school? I'll tell you why, because there's three thousand a day and

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I don't read any of that.If my wife didn't take his lunchbox out
of his backpack every day, Iwould just, you know, put his
lunch in a new paper bag everyday and they would just be piling up
in his backpack. So that's good. I think. Here's the thing this
is you're perfect for the show.Eric. Let me tell you that number
one, because the people, thepeople that listen to this show are very

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much like minded in that way,right, they're not. This isn't a
show for super parents who are hyperinvolved. And I may be the guy
who's the president of the Booster Club, I'm gonna say, yeah, you're
pretty close. That's the perception.This is what I'm recently learning this about
myself that it was just because Ilike the school, I like the neighborhood.
But I am not the guy,Like I'm not that guy. I

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don't read anything. I miss emailsfrom the principle like because I agree,
like this's just a ton of noisecoming at you and then when you get
involved like I am. The otherthing we learned is that they put like
golden tickets in the packets. Weget Thursday packets at our school, and
every Thursday you get a packet ofmaybe eight sheets of paper that's just like
here's the info. And they wereworried that people weren't looking at it,

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so as a test, they wouldput golden tickets inside like four packet and
we get to five people get totour the school and then have a lifetime.
It is okay, well there wasa bonus, but uh no,
you get like a five dollar Menchi'sgift card or Yoga Frozen Froo five dollars
gift card. Start looking for them. Nobody cleaned it, you know,

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so you are not alone. Ismy other reason I tell you that story.
Well it's funny you say that becauseI have other dad friends at this
school, who I will tell orI'll ask, hey, you're going to
the spring event this week and they'relike, what now, what are you
talking about? Sorry? What?And then I feel like the nerd,
going, well, didn't you readthe packet? Because I didn't read the
packet. I just found out someother way. Is it because your wife

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told you? Your son told you? Like can you even point? Here's
what's funny we have. We're agood team because she is the informed one.
She will tell me all these things. But I'm the one with the
spare time. I'm a magician.I work at night, and when i'm
in town, I'm in town onehundred percent. When i'm out of town,
i'm out of town. So wheni'm in town, I can volunteer.
I have volunteered at that school alot more than she has. And

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that's not because she doesn't want toknow. She doesn't have time. So
that's where I'm putting out that perceptionof cool dad as well. Thanks,
you know, donate my time forthe magic show. That's easy, that's
fun for me. And then Iwent in and read to the kids.
That was an hour of my time. I've you know, done the Halloween
thing. And I was the Christmasstore. I volunteered in, so I

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can do all that stuff. Butdon't you're in the dunk tank. Was
in the dunk tank, yes,yellow dunk tank. But don't tell me
to read flyers or know any ofthat or donate pencils you lost. That
means you're not a nerd, You'renot involved. You are very much middle
of the road. I don't knowif you came here for validation, Eric,
but I'm here to give it alittle bit. I hear it.
That's good. I want to bemiddle of the road, fly under the

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radar. No contract, don't youhere's I know we planned to talk about
questions, but this is way moreinteresting to me because I do think that
this is the crux of why Ido the show, is that so many
parents today, no matter what theirlevel of involvement, Like you're a guy
who's going in and eating when youhave time, but you there's this weird
expectation that I don't think our parentsever had to deal with. That there
was, you know what I mean, Like your your father never read to

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the class. Fair to say,very very fair. I would, and
I would venture a guess that henever read to you either, I don't
really remember. No, no,no, And this is where I may
step on a landline here, butI don't think that you walked. You
walked around through life going well.My father hates me. He wants nothing
to do with me, like,it's just a difference in the expectation.

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Right, that is correct. Sorry, No, that's okay, it's fine,
that's very correct. And a smalltangent would be my neighbor, who's
a seventy three year old man.We're good friends. He's been in the
neighborhood for forty years. He toldme when Dmitri was a baby. He
said, yeah, I never changedthe diaper. Yeah ever, yeah,
ever ever. And I was like, I don't like the crankiness or the

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crying, but the diapers didn't botherme. Oh I can do that,
yes, I was like, never, never, No, that's right.
So I don't think my dad did. Nothing. Has made me want to
invent a time machine more because today'sfather would, I just feel like,
would pull in so much tail,Like seriously, like, if you could
be today's father and go back thirtyyears and just talk to any woman at

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a supermarket, I'm pretty sure youcould moisten some banties. I saying how
many? Just given the stats ofhow many diapers you changed that week,
change your diaper about an hour ago, what are you doing later? I
may or may not be overestimating theattraction of that, because I think you're
right. But here's where it reallycomes from, is that the idea is.
And I know I'm not bagging onyour wife. I'm not bagging on

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my wife. It is everybody's perspectiveperspective, but it's so I constantly,
in an almost unhealthy way, I'mthinking about that like mind level of like,
here's the thing, my wife,we live very similar lifestyles. I
think my wife also does the fulltime gig. Right, I have partial
full time gig doing real estate now. But I was out on the road
as a stand up, so thatinclined me. When I was home,

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I was that I was the dad. I did the laundry, I clean,
I did all that stuff right.And yet the other day, just
the other day, my wife isin the rotary club and she has to
make guacamole. And by has tomake I mean that some guy from Temecula
brought avocados, and so she's gonnamake guacomole for everybody at the Rotary Club.

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But my wife, because she's mywife, does not make the guacamole
the night before. She says,you know, I'm just gonna whip it
up tomorrow morning. And then shegets wrapped up in work and so now,
who's gonna make the guacamole? Eric, I'm gonna make the guacamole,
And so I go, you know, but here's how it happens. Because
I'm a good husband, I say, although I think it makes me a
bad husband that I'm telling this storyto you now, but this is a

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safe space, like we're talking.Nobody's hearing this, just you and me.
Number One, my wife doesn't listento the show. And number two,
you can never tell your wife thatyou did the show. Yes,
my wife doesn't know how to downlidea podcast fever just like me. Oh
that's great, it's perfect. Lightsare the best. But anyway, so
so I say, you know whatI'll make that I can make the guacamole.
You got all the stuff, right, She's like absolutely, So it's
like great. So I had somephone calls that came in and I'm like,

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okay, I still got I stillgot forty five minutes I can make.
I can whip together some guacamole inforty five minutes. So I okay,
Now now it's down to the wire. I got a half hour to
make guacamole. Eric, I goin there, no fucking tomatoes. There's
no fucking tomatoes in my house.I got a half a shallot. I
got a half a halopenio because thefirst time she made guacamole for another party
that she couldn't use this guy's avocadosbecause they weren't ripe enough yet. So

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now I'm I go in there andI said, did you know you don't
have tomatoes? And she goes,oh, can you can you get some
tomatoes? Okay kinda. Now I'mnow I'm flying to the grocery store going,
you know what, no big nobig deal. I'm gonna grab some
tomatoes. I'm gonna grab a newpepper. I'm gonna jet out of there,
still got the cavocados. It's gonnabe great, And just buy guacamole

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when you get there. That's whata smart person would Eric. That's this
is this is the part where Ithink maybe that maybe I do have more
of that super dad mentality in methat I think because I did not even
cross my mind I died. Itwas just like I think it's because maybe
I'm a glutton for punishment. Ijust want to exist in this frustration because
that's going to be our next topic. I want to talk about, like

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the lifestyle of parenting. But anyway, so I go, I get all
this stuff and then we have anapp that I'm very anal. So we
have an app that if you runout of something at the grocery at the
house, you just add it tothe grocery list and then it populates on
my wife's phone and on my phone. So if you're ever swinging by the
grocery store to grab something, youcan see whatever it is that we need.

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Because I'm an annoying asshole, Iam very good at updating the list
at anytime, like we get lowon something. I'm a big guy who's
like, why do you not buytwo things of toothpaste two things of olive
oil, because then when you runout of it, you always have in
case of emergency break glass situation rightthere until you're run out of that one.
Well, no, when you runout of that one, Eric,
you already have said that gives youbuffer, right, that that new twenty

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leader model of olive oil is thebuffer to go at some point during the
next three weeks that I'm going toconsume this olive oil. I should have
added it to the list. That'swhere you and I are difference. We've
been out of olive oil for amonth. Maybe we should go get some.
I got an extra bottle, allright, I got you covered.
You sure than the grocery store.Are we back to being besties? So?

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So anyway, so I go toNow I'm looking at the list and
there's a ton of stuff that weneed at the grocery store. So I'm
like, I can do it.I can do it right. So I
go through, I get everything onthe grocery list. I come home.
I start whipping up the guac.In this case, because we've been together
from worse twenty years, my wifehas at least known now. She jumps
in, she's helping to make theguacamole, and it all works out.
But at the end of it,it's not like it's not like the end

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of Rudy right where she's carrying mearound on her shoulders because I saved her
from looking like an asshole and showingup with a half ass guacamole. You
know what I mean, like noneof that. It's just that's that's the
bar. You understand the band andlet me ask you this, because you're
outside of the situation mediating my marriageis it's what I'm there right that invalidation.

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Well to my podcast, that's whyI brought you in. Thanks buddy,
that's really good. I'm just sotired of being the host all the
time, and so it's just arelief to be on this show with you.
Well, thank you. Man.Is it am I stupid for thinking
that I should be going to answer? I really got to work on my
positive for thinking that I should beat least mildly. I want to use

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the word appreciate it, but Ithink my mind really wants to say the
word celebrated for whipping up some somescratch guacamole. Is am I the asshole?
Or is it that my wife shouldbe more appreciative of my ability to
jump in in a moment of needand whip up some from scratch guacamole?
We are both the answers, Soit's middle of the road. That's what

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that's gonna be the theme of theshow. We are assholes because we want
praise for doing stupid crap. Butwe're not even the guys who say,
like I baby sat to kids.You know, we're not those dads,
right right, or you know whatI mean? Like, you know another
tangent, I did. I putthat on Facebook once. I used the
word babysit even though I was homewith my own kids. Yeah, And
I made a joke. I hada photo of like my own beer and

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then his baby bottle next to it, and I said, oh, I'm
babysitting tonight, so I got usdrinks or something like that. Yeah.
And one of my high school offriends went off on me for using the
term babysitter because it's two thousand whatever, it was thirteen. He was born
in two thou twelve. You know, you're not a babysitter, you're a
dad. It's equal sharing, anequal blah blah blah. And my wife

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had to go into this and went, um, he's actually a really good
dad. Yeah, he just usedthe word babysitting, but he was home
parenting. Yeah, But it washis lack of knowing the word rather than
him not wanting to do it.What's see, because here's the other thing.
I want to be celebrated from makerscratch guacamole. But I don't care
if somebody says babysitting. If Isaid babysitting, I don't, I don't,

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I don't mint mince words like becauseto me, I think it's part
of the joke, right, Likethat's exactly whether or not you intended that
to be part of the joke.Like, there was a long time ago,
remember when they did the Huggies campaignfor diapers. This might have been
before you were in the parenting space, but they did a campaign for Huggies
that basically the entire and it wasfunny because I'm pretty sure it was only
an internet campaign, like they didn'tfeel that, No, it was on

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TV. The campaign was Huggies diapersare so good that they can last a
twelve hour shift with dads. That'spretty fun, right. See, that's
it, Eric, that's a dadgoes ah, that's good. But there
were dads who are like your friendfrom school, like, who were outraged,
and there were even more moms whowere outraged by this. It's like,

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how dare you assume that a dadcan't change a diaper or whatever,
and there is I've had moments wherelike the worst moment I think I ever
had as being always the data pickup. That's been my entire life. But
the worst moment I had was itwas probably seventy two degrees maybe sixty eight
degrees in the morning, you knowhow it is here in La where it's
like sixty eighth in the morning,but by eleven it's eighty, right or
upper seventies. And I'm walking mysons to preschool and they were wearing t

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and shorts, and this lady walkedout and it had kind of drizzled,
I think the day before what Iremember, but it was I knew it
wasn't going to rain today. Andshe was like, Oh, where are
their sweaters? Why don't they havesweaters? Didn't their mother send them I'm
not kidding. Didn't their mother sendthem with sweaters? Like like I was
special needs statue like, and yousaid she died. Thanks for bringing that

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up, woman. Then you've runaway screaming and crying. I wish I
could have done that better because whatI said was I go, they don't
need sweaters. These are boys.I'm trying to turn to men. Yeah,
I go, and then she goes, no, it's gonna be it's
cold, they need I go.It'll be warmed later. Are they're gonna
catch cold? Yeah, man,that's not how you can. That's not
a thing. It's the viral thing. You should wash their hands and leave
them naked in the winter and theywould still not get a call. We

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forget jackets all the time when it'sjust the boys at my house because I
am extremely hot blooded, yes normal, possibly more so than most guys.
I sweat very easily in the shadewhen it's sixty degrees. And of course
my wife is always always, alwayscold. But when it is this season
fall or spring in la or evenwinter, we go shorts and t shirt

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and we forget the jacket. Weforget it, and then we also don't
need it, yes, but weforget it and we're like, nah,
whatever, my wife, I'm notkidding. It will be June and my
wife. If we go to seea movie or go out to a restaurant,
you go, do you have yoursweaters? Gotta get your sweaters.
It's like it's like ninety seven degrees. That be cold. Sounds like my
mother in law yeah. You know, it's funny. Is that impression is

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also of my mother in law?That's she also it's very much you're so
good with the children. Just oh, that's not an impression of my mother
in law at all. But thewords coming out maybe, but not the
voice. Yeah, yeah, she'sShe likes to tell me about how good
I am with the children and thentalk to my wife about how bad I
am. She's constantly trying to drivea wedge as long as you don't have

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to talk to her about it,and just you know, they can deal.
It's secretly, I don't know whatmother in law situation has been.
And I feel like I'm taking youinto a lot of dark spaces here,
and I'm sorry I'm not being agood friend. But hers was always that.
I wouldn't say that we didn't getalong in the sense that she maybe
doesn't like me. I would notsay that that's the case. And I

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wouldn't even go as far as tosay, and the people who have been
listening to the show for years areabout to laugh at this statement. I
would not say that I do notlike her, But what I would say
is that I do feel that shehas unfairly been two faced with me throughout
my time with her. Interesting.Yeah, I'll make these short because the
people listening know these quick stories.But my favorite moment with her was when

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Natalie was pregnant with Jack, oursecond son, and she goes, are
you're gonna try for a girl?And Natalie was like, nope, we're
done. In fact, Justin's gonnaget fixed or I'm gonna get my tubes
tied if I have to have acesarean. And my mother in law said,
oh, we'll let Justin get fixed. It's easier for him. She
goes, right, yeah, butif I have a cesarean, it's easier
because they'll be right there. Andshe goes, oh, well you should
still let him do it. Andshe goes, what are you talking about?

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Like it's they'll be right there.She goes, well, you never
know if you want to have morekids, and she goes, but if
if he's fixed or I'm fixed,what differences I mean? She goes with
someone else. Oh, jeez,I don't mind you. I've been with
their daughters. Wow, well overten years, well over ten years lived
with her the majority of that time. I listen, we don't live in
a palatial estate. Uh, youknow what I mean. Maybe she doesn't

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have help. My wife doesn't drivea land Rover or something, but I
would like to think that she wantsfor for little is I guess a better
way to say it. But still, you guys are doing fine. I
think we're doing okay, but notenough for a mom in law, not
enough for that situation. Crazy.Yeah, she's a she's a special treat.
Mine's totally different. But yes,quote good for you, that's what

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that's also what she does. Ifeel like she does an outreach program where
she makes everybody else feel better abouttheir mother in law. Right, Yeah,
that's how did you and your fairwife meet? Can I ask?
We met at the Magic Castle inHollywood? Oh um, but we were
both from Tucson, Arizona. Butit's it's a small world type of situation,
but not that crazy. Her oneof her best friends from high school.

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They were in drama together in highschool. He went to NAU and
Flagstaff where I went. I becamegood friends with him in college because we
were both theater majors. So itwas her friend from high school my friend
from college. When I moved outhere, I lived with him. But
even like months before I moved out, I was working at the Magic Castle

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and he brought her just to go. They weren't they weren't dating, He
wasn't bringing her to set her upwith me. He just said, Hey,
I have a friend performing at theMagic Castle. Do you want to
go with me? She said yes, So he brought her to the Magic
Castle saw my show. We metand had a good time. And then
I wasn't living here. And thenmonths later when I moved here, it
was literally like four months later,she was still single. I was still

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single. So then I saw heragain right when I moved here again because
now I was living with Dylan,who is her good friend. Yeah,
so then we kind of reconnected thenand almost dated, started dating almost immediately
when we moved here. We kneweach other were from Tucson. And oh
so even back in school, youknew of no, no, no,
not not back in Tucson. Butwhen we met, you know, I

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knew the situation. I knew thatshe knew Dylan from Tucson. Yea,
And so we had yeah, wehad Tucson to talk about immediately, and
mutual friends and high school friends andstuff and people that we had heard of.
At we didn't go to the samehigh schools, but our moms live
our families lived eight miles from eachother. Oh wow, now it's just
her mom and my mom and herbrother lives there but elsewhere. But our

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dad's passed away. But so yeah, our moms live about eight miles from
each other. So we did haveTucson to talk about early on, But
turns out it's much more difficult whenyou go there. You have to split
the time with and especially now thatwe have a kid, you have to
split it down to the second.Yeah. And I would rather go to

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a indem city and spend one hundredpercent of the time with her mom and
go to another city and spend onehundred percent with mine. Yeah, And
instead we are just dividing it andit's uh. And then if you go
to a dinner, well, canthe other mom just come to that dinner?
Well, but now that whose timeis this? Now it is my
mom's time or your mom's time?And are we going to do two dinners
so we can swap the time?Oh, I feel like if you had

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her moms or junior high kids,it's ridiculous if you could get I don't
know what religion your moms are.But I feel like if you could get
a couple of either like Presbyterian andJewish. Oh boy, is Jewish my
mom? That's where I was going. I was going to Jewish. If
you could get mother in law Jewish. I think that if you could negotiate

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a diplomatic agreement between two, rightbetween two, like a Jewish mom and
now Presbyterian is what I heard.Well, I was raised Presbyterian. She's
kind of yeah. I mean shegoes to a Presbyterian church occasionally. I
feel like it would be better ifshe was Italian. And I feel like
I just want something that's more doatingor equally doating than a Jewish on the
other side of grandmother, right,like Italian Catholic. Like I don't want

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an Italian Catholic as a mom.I'll respect to an Italian cafol right,
But it would be good because thatwould you would have the skill set,
I think to really bring peace tothe Middle East. I think if you
could negotiate an agreement for holidays orsomething, or even a weekend of splitting
that time, thankful. I don'tknow how this happened, but it was
like it was like having a guardianangel touch my brain. And it was

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mostly because there was such a chasmin the tone when we would go to
a holiday just after a Nalie andI got married, we'd go to a
holiday at my parents, and thenwe'd go to a holiday at her parents,
and there's just a difference in thetone. Oh yeah, not that
it was. It's not even aboutpreferring necessarily one over the other. It's
just the difference in the tone,so much so that I said, I

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just don't want to go in themiddle, like I don't want that to
be a thing. So why don'twe start alternating now? And I said,
because if we start alternating now,then we leave it up to the
fates, because I have a feelingthat this will get kicked up a notch
when we have kids. One ofthe smartest things I've ever done, because
and it just so happened to workout that Natalie's parents got first Thanksgiving,
my parents got first Christmas, andso we could kind of say, listen,

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it was just the timing, I'mso sorry, you know, kind
of a thing. And then wedon't do that. But it's rough now.
So my parents are split up.My real mom lives about ten minutes
or fifteen minutes from where my dadand stepmom live, and we go there
for the holidays. Now and nowshe's like, so, now I got
three ways? I got it,you know. And then and then there
was the first year we did it. It had been years since we'd been

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able to step away from work andgo up to visit my parents for the
holidays. Usually the kids would gobecause Natalie and I would have to work.
We get up there and I hadit out with my stepmom where she
got angry because in the middle ofChristmas Eve I went to go have dinner
at my other mom's. Wow.Yeah, because she's Jewish. That's cool,
Like Christmas is always my families,which is awesome. That's easy.

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Yeah, that makes that does help. Um, he's it, but he's
that's not a thing right that youwhen you find out that you're gonna be
a dad and you're having a kid, that's not even in the realm of
like, that's not a thing youthought you'd have to tackle, right.
Uh, Actually it is you thatstruck you, because yeah, because when

(25:21):
when he was born, I mean, we talked about raising a kid before
we got pregnant and so it wasI want to raise him Jewish, and
I basically said, well, I'man atheist, so I'm i'm and I'm
lazy. I'm not gonna fight youon that, but don't expect me to
uh find a temple for him andgo buy this literature and make sure he's

(25:44):
studying. And I'm not going todo that. Right if you do that,
Okay? Yeah, Like most ofthe people bar Mitzvah than I know
are pretty cool people, and alot of them end up being famous comedians.
So I'm happy with that. Right. I feel like I've I don't
really know, and I think it'sa stereotype you want. I don't think
i've met an angry Jewish person,like you know what I mean, just

(26:06):
a very even Maybe it's because I'munfairly being an anti Semitic, but I
just feel like even when they're kindof bitter or cynical, it's funny.
Likely they're always funny. They're afunny folks. Right, we did talk
Krusty the clown was right, Sowe did talk about that, and then

(26:26):
we had we had a briss Areyou familiar with those? Yes? That
was now when he was born,I was just kind of riding this no
sleep high, and I was doingall the housework. She was home from
work, and we were new parents, no sleep, drinking though at dinner
time, you know, to whatever, and so to feel yes this briss

(26:47):
I was on autopilot. But thenwhen it started happening, literally when the
party started, I started freaking thefuck out. Yeah, it was numerous
things. I was a new dad. Her entire family came in for this.
They are not the quietest, mostfinesse ful family. My family came
in exactly my family, and myaunt is just I mean, she doesn't

(27:11):
say much of anything, and whenshe does, it's very quiet. So
my family came in, and myfamily didn't even know what this party was
for, Like why don't you dothis in a hospital? And I'm thinking,
I don't know, that's a greatquestion. Who the hell has a
party to snip a dick? Sobut now I am freaking out just at
the stress of everything, and Idon't want to watch. So the moil

(27:33):
starts to go in to do thelittle thing, and I just left the
room. I'm like, fuck everyone, I'm gonna go stand in the other
room and I want you like i'dcall me old fashioned. I did want
him to be circumcised. Don't wantto get into that freaking controversy or you
know argument. But and the oneof the coolest things happened at the party
was one of my friends came intothe room. He's like, yeah,
I don't need to watch that either. I'll hang out in here with you.

(27:56):
And we were in his nursery.We're standing next to the rib.
I'm not in tears, but I'mfreaking out. I'm just stressed out.
I'm this is not a weird party. It was weird. And one of
the other best moments of that partywas one of my magician friends, one
of the very few magician friends thatcame to this party. He is a

(28:17):
single bachelor. He's older than me, he's fifty five, single bachelor.
He's not Jewish like he was thelast person that should have been at this
party. We invited him because he'sa close friend of both of ours,
and he showed up. He wasthe best dressed guy at the party.
He wore a vest, he worea tie, he wore slacks but out.
When I saw him coming in fromthe street, I went to greet

(28:40):
him because I kind of wanted himto go. I wanted to tell him,
dude, fucking have beer. I'mfreaking out right now. And he
opens up his vest. He says, well, I didn't know what to
wear to a brisk He opened uphis vest and he had cut his tie,
snipped off the tip of his tiefor the briss and I lost my
mind laughing, and I hugged him, and I'm like, that's the best

(29:03):
thing ever that you could have done. And so I went, I can't
I'm gonna show you off at theparty because they'll either laugh or they'll be,
you know, offended. Either way, it's funny for me, right,
So it turns out everyone thought itwas hilarious. Alicia thought it was
hilarious. Yeah, exactly. Hewas the hit. He was, and
he was the best dress because whenhe closed his vest you couldn't tell the

(29:23):
tie was cut. He looked great. And the best part, nobody got
offended when he did sleight of handwith the foreskin exactly know it was he
put on a little show with it. It was great. So, no,
that was a stressful moment. Andbecause of these things, we had
talked a lot about kind of thereligion and you know, the parenting and
all that stuff. And I meaneven before kids. I remember Alicia saying,

(29:47):
when we were like probably engaged,she said, do you think and
this was one of my best retorts. She said, do you think your
your family is annoyed that I'm Jewish? Or or do you think your family
is kind of, you know,bummed out disappointed that I'm Jewish? And
I said the exact same amount thatyour family is that I'm not, and
she just went Okay. I said, I'm pretty sure my mom thought I

(30:14):
was gay through college, so she'sprobably happily that I married a woman.
You know, she's fine. He'sdoing the theater. I don't know.
She learned to throw a baseball,so yeah, and it's been fine.
Actually, one of the coolest thingswe've done lately, we've done it twice
now, is since we are bothfrom Tucson, like a spring break time

(30:37):
of year or summer or whatever.Um, I will go to Tucson for
three or four nights with Dmitri andwe will be at my mom's house and
Alicia can be at work here inLA she doesn't have to take that time
off, and then she'll fly intoTucson. I will take Dmitri to her
and her mom's house. I flyhome, not having to hang out with
her mom and at that house andsay by to my mom. I fly

(31:02):
back to LA and then Dimitri spendstime with his other grandma and his mom
at their house. And we've donethat a few times and everyone seems pretty
happy about that. And I'm like, I'm scoring the most on this because
go home, see mom for afew days. She maybe sits Dmitri.
I go out with high school friendsor whatever, call my old magician friends,
and then I take him to herhouse and then I fly home.

(31:25):
That's great. It's a pretty sweetdeal. I love it. He doesn't
work for everything but friends, butI love Here's what I love about everything
that you just broke down. Isthat a you like the level of talking
that you did beforehand, where youfelt like you were prepared, and yet
the still you have these moments,which I think is such a great kind
of microcosm of parenting, is thatstill, when it's in the moment,

(31:45):
like you don't know, like youyou're you like it, it easily can
become overwhelming, like it like itjust washes over you like Insanta, like
the most recent thing that happened tome that I think would be similar to
that for me was when I uhin like we stumbled into having the talk
with my sons at the dinner table, and I thought I was going to

(32:07):
be like, I've done research onthis, I've done multiple segments. I've
talked to child development specialists and pediatricianson the show about it. So I'm
like, I am going to crushit. And I did not. I
did not. It was it justwas. I wouldn't say that any The
way I felt like I succeeded wasthat nobody in the room was uncomfortable.
But anytime I've told the stories toother parents, it's like I'm describing a

(32:30):
murder scene like the basis, They'rejust like, oh my god, you're
not in prison. Yeah. Myfavorite part was when my son said,
well, what's a whore? Likeall right? He had not he had
very little questions about the mechanics ofit, like except for how like do
you just leave it in? Therewas another question which I remember I told

(32:51):
this on stage one time recently,the last time I did stand up,
where I I did like a thingwith my hand. I go no,
no, like you put it inand put it out where I pretended my
entire elbow to tip finger was apenis, and I'm just doing this like
kind of upward karate chop action likeand without even thinking about it, which
physically looks very aggressively. Yeah,So I apologize to any one that my

(33:13):
son has relations to it in thefuture, that's all my bad. But
but in the moment, right,I felt very prepared beforehand, but when
it happened, it was very overwhelming. Like while it was happening, I
was just everything was on the cuff. I felt like a juggler, Like
I felt like I had, youknow, eight pins in the air and
doing it. Didn't necessarily think Iwas failing, but in actual I was
probably dropping seven of them behind me. I don't know. But we played

(33:35):
Boggle last night. It's a newgame he just got and uh, there
were letters sex. I left italone. I didn't go for that letter,
and my wife did. She wrotedown sex and I'm like, look,
we're liberal parents, and he's he'sheard me swear, he's heard us
talk about the human body and allthat. But I thought, well,
how am I going to explain thatright now? During Boggle? And then

(33:59):
my wife nails. She writes downsex. So Dmitri goes, wait,
isn't that a bad word? Andwe said no, it's absolutely And I
even chimed in and I said,no, it's absolutely not a bad word.
And she said, and I didn'teven think about going this route.
She said, no, your sexis a male, My sex is a
female. And I went, oh, I didn't even have to explain the
action. I could have talked aboutthat, damn it. And then I

(34:19):
didn't get the point. Then Ididn't. Yeah, my wife kills a
bobo. Dmitri beat me at bobomost rounds. It was very sad.
What's great about that, though,is I think that he'll grow up going
but that it was so nice.He used to let me win at bob
you know what I mean, untilhe's like twenty Yeah, he's about gonna
hit twenty three, and then he'sgonna put it together. He's gonna go
wait a minute, like for thelongest time, I used to think my

(34:43):
dad would send me to my roomas a form of like punishment, right,
But then as I got older andin my twenties, I realized i'thing.
Oh no, that was so hedidn't beat the living. It was
more of a timeout for him getaway from me so I can show Yeah,
you need to be outside of armorsfor you to be safe. Is
there anything, Um, this isgreat, that's fun. Thanks for coming

(35:05):
on the show man. Is therewhat's Is there anything that comes to top
of mind? This is kind ofa loaded question, so I'm gonna try
this long form. But what wasthe thing that kind of um, either
when you look about like other parentsor the parenting today, Like, what's
the thing that kind of shocks youthe most? And you know what I
mean that you're like, oh,really, Like I didn't either. I

(35:25):
didn't think it was that way,or maybe it impresses you the most,
or the thing that you like,like, what's the biggest kind of impactful
thing about either being a parent orseeing other parents around that that hit you.
I know, it's a big vaguequestion. Yeah, that's big one
thing that everyone prepared me for thatI did not feel, and I then
I did to learn that a lotof dads don't feel this way. You

(35:47):
know, Oh, it's gonna changeyour life forever, and it's so magical
and right when the baby comes out, you look in the eyes and you
fall in love and bed blah blablah and the entire beginning for a few
years. Sadly, I was justgoing, no, wait, my career's
fucked up, and now there's athing crying in my house. Yeah,
this is not fun at all.Where's the fun? And you felt that

(36:08):
other dads feel this way? Umafter yes, maybe not. I I'm
very melodramatic, and I was verymelodramatic at home, I know. But
when I'm melodramatic, it's usually forcomical purposes or I'm trying. You know,
if I'm complaining about let's say,a long line at Disneyland, I'm

(36:28):
probably trying to come up with ajoke about with my complaint. And my
close friends know this. They stillsay that. My close friends call me
crotchety, which this crotchety nickname cameout after we were all parents, because
there were a bunch of our collegefriends. My college friends, we all
had kids within the same year,which is wonderful. We talked about that
later, But I was the crotchetyone because you know, when when Dmitri

(36:52):
was two months six months a year, and if he got cranky, I
would get cranky immediately and I freakinghated it, so I got this nickname
of Crotchety. But then you know, it's not because I was always complaining
and I was just always trying tofigure out like a better way to do
it or this, and that I'mgetting off topic, so I was I
kind of assumed. I don't believein magic for real, even though I'm

(37:15):
a magician. But I did think, you know, when he's born,
something is gonna turn on in mybrain and it's gonna be great. And
then he was born and nothing clicked. And then we went home and you
know, yeah, I would havesaved him from danger from day one,
but as sure as hell was nothaving fun, I thought it was gonna
be fun. And lack of sleepand I thought that was fun, you

(37:37):
know, And no, all ofthat was terrible. I hated all of
it. Literally, thought we madea big mistake. And that went on
for six years. And I lovehim now he's seven and he's awesome.
But it just clicked a few daysago. That's why you felt comfortable to

(37:58):
come on this. Yes. No, And there were extremes, you know,
some dads were, oh, Iwell, one of my friends in
Ohio, of all people, whenhe was born. He was texting me
because he was so excited for meto be a dad, and I text
and he texted knowing because it wasa C section, so he knew the
date I had told him or whatever. He texted me the morning that we

(38:22):
gave birth and he's like, didit happen? Is it all good?
And I said, yeah, ithappened, It's all good. And then
he went on Facebook and announced itbefore we did. I'm like, what
are you doing? But I justremember him saying, I'm so excited for
you. I'm so excited for youto experience all the wonderful things that I've
gotten new experience because his kids liketwo years older, so he was a
few years ahead. And I'm justlike, oh, that sounds so gay,

(38:45):
Like what are you talking about,Like it's not no, it sucks
for a long time, and nowyou're making me feel guilty for being this
way, right he said, heit's like it's like playing up a movie,
right, gets too much hype exactly. And then then and I've melt
met other dads, and then therewas this magician friend of mine right when
I you know, when Dmitri wasan infant and he said, oh,

(39:06):
dude, I wouldn't have saved mykids from a burning building until they were
like three. I hated him.I love those yeah, and I went,
oh, my god, that soundsso normal. Ironically, then you
cry yes. So now I waslike, okay, so I have a
few more years, yeah, hesaid aged two. When Dmitri hit age
two, there was still not alot of fun going on. But yes

(39:29):
he was goofing around, giggling,walking talking. Yes, it was a
lot easier, more fun. Blahblah blah. So I felt a little
better. And then I did startmeeting those dads, and you know,
a few dads at brett Hart wecan roll our eyes. We can like,
h here we are at this eventor pick up or drop off and
oh the kid wouldn't get ready thismorning and blah blah. So yeah,

(39:49):
now it's it's a lot more normal, and I have more dads that are
we can laugh about it more andhow it's funny because my dad question,
what was your No, you nailedit. I really think you did that.
That was that that was to me. What you were saying is like
that was the big thing that surprisedyou that you didn't see coming and we're
worried about and I think it.I think there are more people why I'm
glad you told that stories. Ido think that there are more people out

(40:10):
there who feel that way because thereis this weird expectation for me, I
thought, what was great about Ithink my dad really helped me out in
this manner because what he told mewas when he found out that my mom
was pregnant with me, he saidthat you get hit with immediate excitement followed
by intense fear, and then immediatelyfollowed by intense depression. He goes and

(40:35):
it all happens in about thirty seconds. I agree with that, except for
the excitement part. But the othertwo I agree with very much. And
we have it on video. BecauseI was doing a stand up show and
I just finished doing like a specialthat was like something I produced. It
wasn't like Comedy Central or anything likethat, and it was all about being
married, and it was a lotof bagging on my wife in the act,

(40:58):
and people on the road were constantlylike, did your wife know these
horrible things you say and blah blahblah. I said, yeah, like,
well would be great, So Iput a special feature on the DVD.
That's her getting to fire back atme. Yeah. Well, the
day we planned to record this,she found out she was pregnant with our
son, so we did the thing. She bombed it. Like all she
did was like, no, it'spretty great. I'm guessing because she was
hormoned up and like it was ahorrible spot to put her in. And

(41:20):
then at the end she does thisthing where she wants to surprise me,
and she she does this unveiling whereI find out that she's pregnant, and
you get to see it. I'veseen it multiple times. You literally can
almost mark with time code on myface, so like, on excite,
are you serious that? I startcrying? And then she starts telling the
story and it takes her thirty secondsto tell the story, and you see
me go oh fuck, like yousee me get afraid. And then and

(41:45):
then there's a part where I putmy head on my hand and I remember
going, you tell fucking jokes fora living. You can't. You can't
feed a kid telling jokes and shitlike yeah, And then I called my
dad to give him the news,and my friend, he was a friend
of mine who was taping this,and he rightfully he recorded it because I'm
really glad that I have video ofthis, of watching me, because I

(42:07):
don't know I'm being recorded. AndI go, yeah, I'm more excited
she's doing the thing and everything.And then and then I turned towards the
window like doing like this weird subconsciousbody language, and I said, I
start crying again. I go,Dad, I don't I don't know how
I'm gonna feed this kid like tellingjokes. I don't have a real job.
And my dad on the phone said, calm down, calm down,
they're not as expensive as everybody thinksfor the first five years, like he

(42:30):
and he said he like so havingthat idea of there being two out of
three negative emotions right out of thegates, right, And then he constantly
told me about how the infant partis not the fun part, right,
He's like, this is he goesfor me. He kept saying for me,
this was not the fun part.And he had this really nice way
of putting it where I think it'skind of what you're saying is that when

(42:50):
I could interact with you, that'swhen it became great, Like when you
were a person that I could talkto, which I it's funny because you
think of like, oh, babiesare so innocent and everybody should love them,
right because they're they're helpless and innocent. But my dad kind of singling,
I wasn't a big fan when youwere an infant because but ironically I
always found it and maybe it's justsome kind of weird uh munch. What's

(43:12):
the word when you fall in lovewith your hostage taker Stockholm Stockholm syndrome.
Maybe it's some kind of Stockholm syndromewith my dad, because I always found
it more touching that when he gotto know who I really was, that
was when he got engaged, Likethat was for him, like now this
is awesome. Now I'm having agood time because we can joke together.
I could teach you stuff you couldteach me like that. That was always

(43:34):
That sounds really sappy, but it'sthe truth. I yeah, yeah.
You have to earn the fun partsof when they're older by going through them,
you know. I recently it wason a cruise ship only two years
ago. There was a juggler whowas a new dad. This is two
thousand, let's say it was maybeit was sixteen seventeen, twenty sixteen,
seventeen, and this new dad saidthat he had never changed the diaper.

(43:58):
He was like my seventy five yearold neighbor. And I wanted to punch
this dude. I'm like, you'renot earning, get in there, get
there? What? No, mywife does it and we live close to
her parents, so they're doing itall n chug his beer and I'm like,
your garbage. I hate you.He pissed me off. And like
I said, the crankiness would driveme nuts changing diapers. I even said,

(44:22):
Delicia, I said, all changehis diaper till he's fifteen. Yeah,
but when he screams and cries oryou know, it just there's this
thing in my brain that just looksdrives me nuts. They're wired that way.
It's always interesting. I don't know. It's maybe because you guy who
travels a lot, right, likeother screaming babies, I don't think have
the same impact on me as mykids did when they were crying. Is

(44:44):
that a fair statement for you?I think I hate all screaming bay all
right, that's good. No judgmenthere, because a lot of airplanes if
and I see an airplane when whenI'm in a freaking at the gate at
the airport, I can go who'ssitting next to me? That maybe right
there, and they're always right infront of me, right behind me.
Now is your wife if I'm alwaysfascinated by the yin and yang that kind

(45:07):
of comes out of her relationship?Is your wife? Like great because I
hate changing diapers? Or she cando it all? Or no? She
she's great. Um, she was. She could tolerate the screaming much better
than me. Um. But whenit comes to coordination physical, doing something

(45:27):
with your hands, she's not coordinatedat all. That's interesting. Um,
she's very smart. She's smarter thanme. She's very loving, she's very
care kinetically. She her family doesn'thave finesse or coordination. Or I love
hearing about this from a I love, and I not only my dad and

(45:50):
my mom. I mean when deme, you can't watch this when you're
listening. Do you even have peoplethat listen? There's no, no,
nobody's listening. When my mom holdingthe baby bottle, make a spaghetti oat,
laundry puma boom boom. Yeah,and her mom it's like, oh,
I'm gonna hold the baby, Okay, let me go, let me
go to the bathroom. First,let me get my sweater, I'm cold,
let me sit in the in thecouch, Chakras, and then and

(46:13):
then you're just gonna hand me thebaby, and then she's gonna hold him
for a minute and then you know, I'll hand him back and then that's
And so when it was changing backto your question, changing diapers, I
could probably do it ten times fasterthan Alicious. Yeah, and and I
could also I'm just a multitasker,I can. It was fine. He
hated swaddle no matter who did it. Okay, so that wasn't a thing.

(46:37):
Yeah, mine was good. Ithink it was probably tighter and better
than hers. But he hated eitherone matter was no need for it.
Yeah, So as far as changingdiapers, she she was fine at it.
But she and she would agree ifshe were sitting here. I'm just
a lot more coordinated. I canmultitask better. I can I know my
surroundings better. So it's like,yeah, well it's like, you know,

(47:00):
take the diaperrop, boom, andit's it's going in a little and
then boom, and I'm right backto cooking dinner and it's super hot.
That is super hot. So withthat stuff, I'm I'm far better.
She's much better at planning. Andyou know, we got to sign them
up for preschool. Oh we do. I thought we just took him somewhere
and dropped them off, like wegot to find a school. There is

(47:22):
a lot of yet and yang towhat you guys are that we're a very
good team. Yeah, that's awesome. We are a good team. She's
organized, and she's she's the theplanner, and I'm the doer and the
you know, I make the lunch. I can make lunch ten times faster
than her. I just I makedinners. I do laundry, you know.
And I'm fascinated to go back tomy uh my fantasy of the nineteen

(47:45):
going back to the nineteen seventy twogrocery store and hitting on moms. I
feel like first we would have toexplain to why we have a screen in
our hand, but we could showthem like a video on our phone of
you making a lunch, like usinghands like an octopus, you know,
and changing a diaper like it's bornto them, Like she say, is
there? Like he said, yeah, look at that? Like I say,
he's gotten Now he's got to lookat a skillet and he's gotta skill.

(48:05):
He's feet in the baby, he'sholding the bottle of his chin.
And then you get to see theirnineteen seventies bush. Yeah, man,
you pull things out of the bush, like make a dove fly out of
her vagina. You want me todo? Oh wait, you're not working.
It's nineteen seventy two. Oh wait, I have to pay the bills.

(48:27):
That's what happened. There's a Ithink her name is Mia Long.
She's an actress and her husband isan assistant coach for the San Antonio Spurs.
And our kids went to the samepreschool and I used to do handyman
work around the preschool, and soshe came in with her kids and I
said hello, and then she goes, do do you you work here?
Like she'd seen me around. ButI think she was like, I thought
you were a dad. I growlike, why is there a strange man

(48:49):
hanging out at the preschool all day? And I said, no, my
son or Sarah. And I said, but I fixed things around to help
him out from time to time.She goes, oh, is that what
you do? Like, are youa handyman or a contract go no,
I'm a comedian. But but mydad was a contractor, so I know
how to fix thing. She goes, Oh, it is so hard.
I'm not making this up. Itis so hard to find a man who
can fix stuff. And then shelooks at me and I was like,

(49:12):
um, what do you need?Exactly? I was like, I go,
well, if you need something likefix or what if she goes,
I'm telling you she said, myhusband he can't fix a thing. And
I said, well listen she Isaid, she goes, she goes,
I might have to trade or whatever. And I said, let me tell
you something. If we were todo this, said trade, just to
be fully clear, you would lose. You would be the one losing.

(49:32):
And I said, because what comeswith being able to fix things is usually
not an ability to make money.That's how it's usually for a lot of
free time to figure out how tofix a hide on a cabinet, and
you're broke ass yourself. Exactly.He could call somebody like me and have
me do it if I needed to, because I'm like, yeah, I
could really use the dough actually rightnow, that would be great. I

(49:55):
remember I assembled an Ikea bookcase formy pres for Demetrius preschool, not my
preschool. It's five and I Kiawasn't even here yet. Um, but
no, I they they had thisbox and they they saw what it was
gonna be. It was this bookcase, whether it was a photo or whatever,
and they knew I was kind ofhandy. And I don't know if

(50:15):
they asked me or if I offered, but I was also thinking, like,
oh, sweet, oh, amonth of free preschool for my kid
or special treatment or something like that, you know, maybe I'd get him
into Harvard or something. And soI was like, yeah, well,
let me take it home and workon it there because I have a pickup
trucks, and then I'll just bringit back so I'm not in your office
the whole time. And I didit, and I assembled two bookcases for
them and brought them back and itwas three ladies that ran this preschool and

(50:39):
they were so thankful and so excited. And then that's that's all high five.
Yeah, that's my guacomole story that'sexacted that I want to talk about
before we wrap up, because yousaid it, and I'm curious to you
said that all of your college friendskind of had kids at the same time,

(51:00):
and you said you don't want totalk about that later. Well,
okay, what was that about.Well, so four of us, four
dudes who all were theater majors incollege, Josh, Forrest, Dylan,
and myself moved out here. Wemoved out here kind of staggered. Dylan
and Forrest were first. I mayhave been second, and then Josh came

(51:21):
out here. But it doesn't matter. We're nineteen ninety eight ish to two
thousand. I was in ninety eight, maybe Dylan and Forrest were ninety seven
whatever. Right after college, weall moved out here and I met Alicia
immediately, so we were kind ofdating, but then a few other dating
coming and going, girlfriends coming andgoing. But then we all ended up
getting married early two thousands, andwe all have kept in touch, and

(51:45):
our wives are great friends now aswell. And it's it's like the guy's
circle of friends one out because Chrisor you know, New Year's parties,
Fourth of July, barbecues, allthat stuff. It's that group of friends
and hangs out. And our wives, sure they have friends from college that
and they hang out, but notnearly exactly, not nearly as much as

(52:07):
us. It seems like an anomalythat's good. Yeah. So then when
Dylan and Shari got pregnant first andtheir girl was born on my birthday October
eighteenth back inn, I guess itwould have been eleven, twenty eleven.
Then Josh and Lisa had Delilah tendays later after Talia. Those are two

(52:27):
girls. They live over near CulverCity. Then we found out but are
not finding out. Then Demetri isborn February twenty twelve. And then Cohen,
who is Forrest and Marla's kid wasborn in June of twenty twelve.
Two girls, two boys. Twogirls live near Culver City. Two boys
Sherman Oaks and Burbank. Night boysare youngest, girls are oldest. They

(52:51):
all get along very well. Andit's been yeah, it's been really awesome
with this because you know, takesa villa blah blah blah, and it
has been great. Um, butthis was where all the my bitching came
from. Like they I was themost melodramatic of all of these dads,
but I'm the only one the comedianand the hyperactive, you know, frenetic

(53:15):
performer type. And because Dylan's moreof a producer, Josh as a writer,
producer, Forrest was doing some kindof corporate improv training and stuff like
that. So I'm I'm the performerone, so I'm going to be the
most melodram Yes, I wish theywould call me a diva. They call
me crotchety, so now I justown it. But uh yeah, So

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it has been wonderful. We've gonecamping with the kids, We've done New
Year's Eve parties, and we've nowhave photos of you know, year number
one, two, three, four, um, and it's it's been pretty
awesome. And now we we justwent to Lake Tahoe together this past January.
We did a little ski trip upthere, got the big how you

(53:59):
know, Airbnb house for all thekids all had bunk beds. Yeah,
and everyone Legoland. Yeah, it'sawesome. The parents all get along really
well, and they're all kind ofin the entertainment industry. Not the wives,
but the husbands are all in theentertainment industry. Um. So it
has been really really cool. Um. Like I said, you know,
they're down in Culver City. Noneof the kids go to school together,

(54:21):
which is also cool because now theyall have their school friends and then they
have their other friends of from theparents. So it has been a really
cool experience to do it with thesegood friends, and yeah, it's brought
us all closer together and I'm veryjealous. Yeah, it's we were we
got married first before any of ourfriends. We got married and we were
twenty one, and we waited awhile to have kids. We were almost

(54:44):
thirty and thirty one I think bythe time, you know, thirty two
by the time Jack was born,so we were in our early thirties.
But then everybody else still was acouple of years behind us where we had
kids. So I but once wegot into the school, that's where we
really because in the preschool for us, there was a lot of people who
were from everywhere, Like it washard to kind of coordinate, I think,
and because of the age of ourkids and having the second one being

(55:07):
younger, like it was always hardto coordinate things, you know, kind
of stuff. But when we Ifeel like when we really started to hit
our stride with having friends who allhad kids that were similar like what you're
describing, had to be when wehit the elementary school. So it's only
been like the last two or three, oh, actually four years. Holy
crap, that went by pretty quick. But but I think that's important,
right, that even if you're theone who is like they're making fun of

(55:28):
because you're bitching and moaning and complainingabout everything, but just to be able
to have that kind of hang out, which is not that that's kind of
part of also this show is thatthere's not a lot of that, I
feel like with dads. Is thatfair to say because of these guys you've
kind of had that yes? Well, yeah, well I agree with both.
I mean, when if the dudesdo just go hang out on our
own, which is rare because we'reall busy and traveling and all that,

(55:52):
but when we do, yeah,we don't talk about our kids much.
Maybe maybe a little bit, oryou know, oh so and so has
been bitchy lately or they're sick orwhatever, um or we vent about our
wives or kids or wives and kids, but we don't. I don't feel
like we talk about it that much. I feel like we talk more about
our own careers and fun stuff andsilly stuff and guy stuff. And the

(56:13):
other funny thing is is none ofus are really sports fans, which is
cool because that's rare and uh,I'm me not being a sports fan.
It's rare that I can be ina lot of conversations. You know,
there's a lot of conversations that Ican't join into. Yeah, not because
I don't want to. I don'tknow how, and I don't have it
in my DNA to feel like.There's a lot of dads in Los Angeles

(56:35):
that are of your mindset, butfeel like they have to have a certain
amount of sports knowledge so you canhave some kind of small talk with another
dad at pick up, you knowwhat I mean. But I like it
that they what they don't know isthat each of them is closeted non sports,
right. They have so march madness, like yeah, well yeah,
I see a big game. YeMy response is what big game? But

(56:57):
my response should be I definitely didnot see whatever game you're referring to.
Yeah. But instead I'm like,oh, which, what are you talking
about? Yea, which shows mylack of knowledge right there, because if
I did see the big game,I would just go, oh, yeah,
you see Johnson with that hit?You know what you do? You'd
start following Rugby because then whenever theysay big bame you, Oh yeah.
When New Zealand took on Croatia,oh that was insanity. Right, See,

(57:21):
I don't don't, I don't know. What about a quick quick sports
story. I worked with the LaKings for two years doing game entertainment in
right actually right around when Demetrius bornNo. Nine two thousand and nine through
eleven, right before he was born, just extra income when I was home,
and it was actually very fun.I learned a lot about hockey and
hockey live hockey. Holy crap,that is fun. You don't have to

(57:42):
like the sport. It's fun.But I happen to be as game entertainment.
I was one of the faces ofthe team and I had to I
got the job because of my personality. And I even told the interviewers because
it was this grueling process of likecan you ice skate? Can you do
improv? Can you what do youknow about the King? Blah blah blah
And in the in the interview,I said, I know nothing about hockey

(58:04):
and the Kings, but you guyscan teach me that. I have personality
which you cannot teach these other peoplethat know hockey. Yeah, and I
got the job. I was oneof like six guys and then twelve really
attractive girl young girls. Um.But my first game. Like, I'm
kind of nervous my first game.I'm interacting with a fan. He's a
super fan. Oh man, yougot just got the job. Awesome,

(58:25):
congratulations, blah blah blah, soawesome. And I'm getting a little nervous.
And the conversation starts going towards likehockey, and he's like, who's
your favorite player? Now? Keepin mind, I can name like three
of them at this point, andnone of them are my favorite because I
know nothing about him. But Ithroughout the first name that came into my
head who was on the team.They're warming up at this very moment.

(58:47):
I'm like, oh you want no, No, I'm chatting with one guy.
No, we're not, We're notto the whole stadium. Well well
yeah exactly. And I said,oh, Jake Johnson's awesome, and this
dude freaks out. I was like, Jake is your favorite player? And
I'm like yeah. He's like I'mhis dad, and I'm like yay,

(59:12):
and so so he is like,dude, I'm his dad. I came
in for the game or I don'tknow where he lived or whatever, and
I was just like, oh,dude, fucking Jake is Oh he's killing
it out there, and like whatI'm racking my brain for. You know,
he scores a lot of points.I don't even know a position,
and I try to get out ofthis conversation. So then I just start

(59:34):
kind of like, Oh, badassdude, So great to meet you,
mister Johnson. Oh I'm so happyfor your son. I gotta got big.
And then I'd just be like,I gotta go, and I run
away. You know, I totallyquit while I was ahead. He never
knew. I went and told myboss, I'm like, listen to this
story. You know how much ofan Indian I am. Listen to this?
So I told her. She laughed, and I totally dodged a bullet.

(59:57):
And I met Jake Johnson's dad andI complimented him without even trying.
That's that's real slide hand in conversation. That is that is that is just
your true talent coming through. Thatis awesome. It was pretty fun,
all right. I forgot to warnyou about this beforehand, but we're gonna
wrap it up with what I dois it's called a moment of the week
where sometimes on the show, andthis will fit to your crotchety personality,

(01:00:21):
it sounds it's a lot of bitchingand moaning and complaining. So we do
like a little palette cleansing where wetalk about either a fun cute, touching
moment that we had with our kid. All right, so I have a
little intro, we'll play that,and then we're how do I get to
bitch about that? If it's afun touching moment with her, you don't
get to bit. I'm saying thatthe show tends to lean towards that from
the majority of it. So atthe end we kind of shake the extra

(01:00:42):
sketch cleanse the palette by saying wealso still love them. Okay, I
don't think that that was necessarily atone of this, but people like it
and they think they're funny, somake sense we do it, and I
have a sponsor. Let's face allright, you made them, you love
them, and sometimes you want tochoke the living shit on of them,
but occasionally they give you that onesweet moment. This is that moment.

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right, Eric, would you feelfeel more comfortable if I went first and
then you could go? Or doyou want to be? All right?
Yeah, so it's pretty easy.Mine are very basic. I've talked about
a while ago on the show abouthow recently was starting this new real estate
thing, like I half kind offelt disconnected from my kids and everything.
So I try as much as Ican when I'm not working or busy that
you know, we do something,and trying to work in more things where

(01:01:52):
it's about, you know, whatthey want to do kind of thing.
And there's and I think it's moremy bullshit than it is reality, if
I'm being fair to myself. Butanyway, two things. One and it's
more a credit to my where creditis due as to my son's fourth grade
teacher at at our school, they'redoing the standardized test and uh, and
so it's a big thing. It'svery important and that you know. And

(01:02:15):
so she had this idea of sayingthat you could write a letter of encouragement
where you say, you know,hey, you can do this, you
know that kind of stuff, right, and she so I wasn't going to
do it. That's on me becauseand she sent the follow up saying,
hey, if you're getting this email, it's just because I haven't received your
note if you you know, ifyou want to, because I haven't done
it, right exactly. So Idid it. And it's funny because I

(01:02:37):
just kind of I typed it upon my phone, uh and just after
they were I think as they werebrushing their teeth or something like that,
and I and I liked it likeI liked it because it to me,
it was a it was a nicefun thing and I just kind of organically
wrote it where I said to him, I said, listen, I'm supposed
to write a letter about how youneed to, you know, do your
best and give it everything you got. And I said, but one of

(01:03:00):
the many things I love about youis that I don't have to tell you
that. And I go, infact, actually, what I think you
really need to hear is not toput too much pressure on yourself. That
that's where when you put that pressureon yourself, I think you unintentionally.
We've had conversations about this, notlike I'm divulgingless dropping it on right before
he takes a test, but I'vesaid that, you know, as we
talked about it, I said,you get in your own way. I

(01:03:20):
said, so just breathe put asmile on your face, and give it
what you got and know that yourmom and I love you. It's super
proud like it was a it wasa short note, but I was like,
I I walked away from going andthat was good, Like that was
a good job. Now, ifthis was very real moment of the week,
I guess I would already have howhe reacted to it, because he's
taking the test right now as werecord it, and for all I know
today, right now he's taking it. It was given to him this morning,

(01:03:43):
and I got to have this greatmoment, which I love. This
part about I guess for me,if I'm gloating it sounds like, but
I love this part of how Iam with them is that I said,
I give him an envelope because itis supposed to be surprised, and I
said, you need to give thisto Misscarelew this morning. He's like,
what's this? I said, it'snone of your business, and I just
look at it. And what's greatnow because he's older, is that he

(01:04:04):
just laughs and just shakes his headand goes away like it's not like he's
like feels like it's ominous or somethinglike that. But then it's great.
What I love about him too isthat he is like me and that he
can't let things go because later onhe's like, I said, hey,
did you give the letter of miscareleader was like, yeah, what was
it? What was it for it? I got to do it again.
I go, it's none of yourbusiness, and I just stare out for
a good two three beats and thenI walked into the kitchen nice and so

(01:04:27):
now he'll get to see it.But my fear is, as I'm telling
the story is another funny moment ofthe week that happened is a long time
ago where he was learning to ridea bike. We're gonna do that thing.
I'm gonna teach him to ride abike. And I thought, because
of his fear and his and hegets anxious about stuff, that it was
gonna he was gonna get in hisown way. But actual he like took
to it like he just did ithe let go just was and he just

(01:04:48):
he did it super quick, likein ten minutes. He was riding a
bike and he was fine right likeit was incredible. And I, because
I'm a super sappy dad, Iwould be emotional. I think you're crotchy.
I'm super super emotional about everything.And so I was helping him put
the bike away and I went tohim and I said, I just meant
to say, I'm really proud ofhow you were able to do that,
Like you you overcame your fear andeverything. And in saying it, I

(01:05:11):
welled up, and I'm just soproud of you, you know. And
I felt so horrible because then hejust started crying. Oh okay, look
he did have to stop where McDonaldthe poor child. I had no idea
how to process it. And thenI had to hug and I go,
I'm sorry. I go, I'mcrying because I'm just so happy for you,
like it's a big deal and I'msorry. Maybe you won't understand until

(01:05:34):
you're older, but I go,I'm not upset with you. I'm it's
the exact opposite. And then hewas good. But but anyways, so
my fear is that he's gonna readthis letter and then it's gonna make him
emotional and somebody child. And thenwith Jack, it was again, Jack
is funny because he likes to Iwas just talking to my wife about this.
We do kind of like a quasistate of the Union, like every

(01:05:57):
once in a while, we checkin and we we see where the kids
are kind of stuff. And shesaid that she was concerned because she thinks
that he's disconnected, if that makessense. And what Jack does like if
I have a there's a breakfast Ilike to make. I told you about
it. You smelled it when youcame into that house. Shock shuka is
what I like to have for breakfast, onions and peppers. And Jack does
not like the smell of it,and so he will not give me a

(01:06:17):
kiss goodbye or let me kiss himgoodbye if I've eaten shock shuka. And
he started doing this thing where hejust leaves like Jacob always comes once a
hug and a kiss. When heleaves. Jack is like, all right,
see a deuces, I'm out,you know, kind of a thing.
And I said, hey, comehere and give your dad a kiss.
He's like, no, I'm goodlike that kind of thing, and
my wife is like, that's notlike okay, like because she thinks I

(01:06:38):
go no, I said, Ithink he's wired that he just he wants
you to work for it. Likethat's really he likes the game of it.
And so I like today when hegot up, I was breakfast,
was cooking and stuff, and hewas cuddle up on the couch watching one
of his shows or something in themorning, and I just went and I
laid down with him for a littlebit, and he got to pretend like
he's like, oh like that,you know. But then what's great about

(01:07:00):
it is like he moved a littlebit to make it easier so I could
like hug him while I'm laying downwith him. So like he's into it,
and it's I don't know. Itwas a cool thing for me that
I liked and not very funny necessarily, but it was a touching moment.
Yeah yeah, all right, Sonow your turn doesn't have to be within
the last week, so you know, well, but it is the last
week and actually quite relevant for numerousreasons. How much time do we have?
We have plenty of time all thetime in the world's a podcast.

(01:07:23):
There are no limits. Week.Yeah, we could Joe Rogan this thing
to do it for four hours,right, lust, No one's listening anyway,
exactly, you get it. Um, well, I've already said that
I'm not a sports fan, butI am athletic. I can throw and
catch in all that stuff. AndI hated baseball growing up. My dad
was a huge Cleveland Indians fan,and he would this is going back,

(01:07:47):
but it will all make sense.It's fine. Um. When my dad
was still alive, I was inLA and I went to a bachelor party
at a Dodger game, just asmall little bachelor party, and I called
my dad immediately. I said,Dad, I just went to a Dodger
game. You'd be so proud ofme. He's like, yeah, would
you think I said? I gotthe hot dogs, the peanuts, the
beer, I got everything. Ijust spoiled myself. Yeah, yeah,

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what you think. I was boredout of my mind? And he said,
yeah, well, sometimes I spellmagic with a J and he just,
you know, touche. He justkind of gave me a little jab
and I thought that was hilarious.But I were my lack of sports knowledge

(01:08:30):
or caring, and he was ahuge sports fan. We just kind of
like when I was young. Hetook me to basketball games with you of
a in Tucson and basketball. It'sa huge basketball town. So when I
was a kid, I was goingto be a professional basketball player. And
in his mind, but not yours. No, no, actually, in
my mind. For like three yearsof my life, well two and a

(01:08:51):
half in junior high I played basketball. I don't like to brag A second
string yeah, second string point guard. And then my freshman year high school,
I didn't make the freshman team exactly, and I was like, yeah,
I think I'm done with this basketballthing. And then I found magic
shortly after. Anyway, he wasa huge sports fan. He died in
two thousand and two. Never metDmitri. Alicia's dad died when she was

(01:09:14):
eleven. He was a huge SaintLouis Cardinals fan, and he was a
huge sports fan, basketball and Tucson. Blah blah blah. He died a
long time ago. Well, andnow I'm kind of I'm I'm not a
baseball fan, but I do likethe Dodgers and I do support it.
So now the community of it exactly. Now, Dmitri is in t ball,

(01:09:34):
and it's kind of one of thosethings where the parents get even with
you, like decades later in yourlife, you know, you cause them
trouble. So now you have yourkids exactly. Yeah. So now yesterday
and the day before, I pickup Dmitri and I've been out of town
for a week. So then andI leave Saturday. So we have like
one week to get a lot ofplaying in. Yeah, and yeah I

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have. I don't do work athome. I pick him up and we
play de me true, what doyou want to do after school? Let's
play baseball in the backyard. I'mjust like, okay, are you sure
you don't want to just you know, sit around and watch TV while I
work or so I'm okay, let'sdo it. We go play baseball.
So the last two days in ourbackyard, we've been playing baseball in the

(01:10:17):
backyard and you know, again safespace. I'm not gonna say that it's
the most fun thing that I've everdone, but holy cow, if we're
not having a great time out thereand we play, you know, the
full game with as much as youcan with two people. He hits it,
I try to catch it, andthen we have basses that he runs
just take turns and he keeps trackof the score, so he usually wins,

(01:10:40):
and I'm okay. And he keepstrack of the outs and he knows
the sport probably better than I do, although yesterday he did go, well,
wait, is it a foul ifthis happens and versus this happens,
And I did have just enough knowledgeand I went, no, actually,
this is the way it's got towork for the foul to be and not
an out, and blah blah blahand I and he's like, oh,

(01:11:00):
okay, and I'm like, okay, good. He still thinks I'm cool.
He still thinks I know something.But it's just funny because I don't.
I'm not a baseball fan, andhere I am playing baseball right because
it's your kid makes it enjoyable.But now, and this is a total
This is why I said, howmuch time do we have? This whole
story is like kind of intertwined numerousways in both of our lives. I

(01:11:25):
now know Justin Turner, third basemanfor the Dodgers, his wife. I
worked with his wife at the LaKings for a year. We hit it
off because she has a sense ofhumor and she's a very attractive woman.
She was one of the few thatI could talk to, because the others
were very high maintenance, very intothemselves, and this girl, Courtney was
sarcast. Everybody, Oh my god. She used to work at AM five

(01:11:47):
seventy, which is the Dodger stationLA, and everybody loves to talk about
how when she comes to like anappearance, she's hilarious. Not only is
he a super cool guy, butso she yeah, so I don't know.
I guess. We kept in touchvia Facebook whatever. And then I
invited her to the Magic Castle onceand she brought her boyfriend and he was

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this big, bushy redhead, andshe told me what he did for living,
and then I forgot. This ishow much I don't care. I
forgot. So they come to theCastle. He's a nice guy. We're
both getting drinks at the bar.I'm between shows and I said, so,
Courtney told me, but I apologize, I can't remember. What do
you do for living? And hesays, oh, I played baseball?
And I went, oh, yeah, okay, I said, and I

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said, so who do you playfor? And he said the Mets.
And I can name about five baseballteams in the US. The Mets was
one of them. And I'm like, so now I'm kind of impressed,
and the fact that it's so farremoved from my own life, I get
starstruck more with people that I knownothing about it, and I'm like,
oh, wow, okay cool,and I'm everything's washing back to me.

(01:12:53):
I'm like, my dad would lovethis conversation right now, and no,
he's not, and so I kindof confess to him. I'm like,
I got to admit I'm not abaseball fan, but that's awesome that you
do it full time. And Courtney'sgreat and super awesome cool. So they
see my show I Kill we becomefriends. So then like a year goes
by, he's oh and no.At the bar that night, he says,

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well, I play for the Mets, but don't tell anyone. We're
coming public, like in three days, I just signed with the Dodgers,
so I'm moving to LA from NewYork. And I was like, oh,
that's great, congratulations. Yea again, I don't know what that means,
but I'm not gonna spoil your surprise. And none of my friends care.
So he moves to LA. Ayear goes by, I invite him

(01:13:34):
to the Castle again and I thinkit's the off season, so and it
happened to me my birthday week,or it might have been my birthday night.
So I bring in a bunch ofmy friends to the castle. They
come Courtney and Justin, who arenot in my circle of friends, but
now he's my celebrity friend. Sothey bring me a bottle of wine and
I don't remember what it was,but it was probably a pretty good bottle

(01:13:56):
of wine because they can afford it. And my other friend, Dylan is
now star struck because now Justin isthe up and coming superstar of the Dodgers,
and he's going to oh right,oh you're playing book okay. So
I'm just like, oh, Dylan, you're so adorable. Your star struck
with my friend, and and I'mjust like, hey, what's up Justin.
Yeah, let's not talk about exactlyI started that. So he they've

(01:14:21):
seen me at the castle a handfulof times. They saw me at the
castle back in January. Um,and every time he comes, there are
people, there are Dodger fans atthe castle that are star struck with him,
and I'm like, oh, yes, it's my boys. So now
they are members of the Magic Castle. Wow, thanks to me, I
believe, I mean they're they're magicfans anyway, but um and one of

(01:14:44):
those guys that just loves the showand has fun. And then this most
recent time, back in January,he brought another Dodger whose name was I
don't remember. Well, no,he just retired but POI. When Courtney
told me, I said, whois he bringing Pui? Because I love
that name, and she said,no, he does not hang out with

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anyone. Yeah, they were bringinga newly retired player. I'm sure we
could come up with a name,but I should have been within the last
few years. Oh, he justretired like months ago, or maybe this
is his first season not back.I don't Let's see if I could figure
out Charlie Charlie. I don't know, let's see. Oh maybe I could

(01:15:26):
find it. But anyway, goodanyway, so he so they brought this
other couple. So now there weretwo Dodgers at the castle talking to me
and it was just so funny.So now that Dimitri is into t ball,
Dmitri really wants to watch or meetJustin because oh the other thing is
Chase Yes, thank you, ChaseYes. So I love these moments in
podcasting because there was hundreds of peoplegoing it's yeah, stop talking about baseball

(01:15:54):
if you don't know anything about baseball. And there's so many people jealous that
I know it and I don't evencare, which I just love. Yeah,
I was gonna say wallowing it.Yeah, so they brought Chase great
people. So anyway, Alicia getsfree Dodger tickets from work. She works
with the Farmer's Market Third and Fairfax, and uh, their company's a big

(01:16:15):
Dodger fan, big big Dodger company. So she gets behind home plate like
once or twice a season. Shegets behind third base once or twice a
season, and then sometimes she'll getsome you know, cheaper seats a few
times, so we'll go as afamily. Sometimes she has to take a
co worker to kind of justify,you know, the really good seats.

(01:16:35):
She goes with her boss or something. But we get to go behind third
plate, and holy crap, ifit's a lot more fun knowing the guy
right out there, kind kind ofknowing. I mean, he knows me,
but we're not friends. Yeah,we're acquaintances. But it makes it
a lot more fun. I couldprobably follow the game more now watching it
through Dmitri's eyes. Dmitri plays tball and you know, again, I'm

(01:16:59):
an eighth I don't believe in theafterlife, but my dad and her dad
would be so excited about just thisentire arrangement. Yea, that I know
a Dodger that my son is playingt ball. I'm out playing baseball with
him, you know, in thebackyard. It has all come first full
circle. And last night on thecouch, we put Tomitri to bed and
I start talking to Elisha about howwe can kind of mold his baseball career.

(01:17:23):
And I'm like, and she's like, Eric Justin would coach him up
a little. Yeah, we've invitedthem over, but they're busy, like,
you know, ten months out ofthe year, and then when they're
not busy ten months a year,they're busy traveling, being busy exactly.
So it's it's hard to get himover. Yeah, but I've we've invited
him over, and of course Courtney, oh yeah, but one of these

(01:17:44):
days. Yeah, and they're alwaysvery sweet, but I kind of think
they're just probably bussing me. Buti'd start talking to list. I'm like,
well, it's not that unreasonable.I mean, blah blah, you
know, I tell her all theconnections she's like, na, I don't
know, and she said he's he'snot gonna be tall, and I said,
baseball, you don't need to betall. And we're watching the Dodger
game, which I accidentally stop surfingchannels on. I just put it on

(01:18:10):
subconsciously, and I'm still talking toher, and there's and I'm like,
who's playing? Oh, that's notjust playing, and she's like, yeah,
you stopped on this channel. Sonow she says, Eric, I'm
five one, you're five nine.He's not going to be a baseball player.
And I went, since when isheight ever an issue with baseball?
And I look at all the players. They're all giant. Oh really,

(01:18:30):
well, they're much I would thinkthat height would help it with the strike
zone in batting, Like if you'reshorter, your strike zone is small maybe,
but longer legs, you can runfaster, you can catch fire.
Yeah. So then I'm watching,I'm like, oh, they all are
a bit big, and Justin isn'thuge, but he's taller than me.
Yeah, but most people are tallerthan me, so yeah. So then
I'm like, huh okay, well, and then she says he wants to

(01:18:53):
be a geologist. Let's just youknow, and it's gonna change eighty times
before he's in a let's just supportthe geology. I was like, yeah,
but just a broke. Let's gofor baseball. We know a Dodger.
We can get him lessons. Andyou know what this means I would
if he kept with it, Ihave to go sit through thousands of tea
ball travel baseball. Yes, andyour dad is gonna be just loving every

(01:19:17):
minute of right as you Why amI the karma? Tea balls hilarious twenty
on travel baseball and lessons and yeah, games and equipment tea balls hilarious because
they're all six and seven years old. And the way the bases, yeah,
that's the best. He had agirl on his team who would flutter

(01:19:38):
her hands like wings as she ranthe base. She was a fairy or
butterfly and it was adorable, right, um, But then like when we
get to coach pitch and then kid, it's gonna get serious, it does
you know? It's gonna be ninetydegrees and we're gonna be watching and it's
not gonna be cute anymore? Whatam I getting myself into? But now

(01:19:59):
I'm thinking all he's gonna be aDodger would that be? And I also,
oh, by the way, Idon't know if I told your listeners
I don't like baseball. It's boringa ship and see dude it Oh,
thank you Eric, that was great. Go to Eric bus dot com E
R I C. B uss dotcom find out if, if, and
when Eric is coming to a citynear you, comes to the show.

(01:20:21):
I've seen him do. He's donea couple of fundraisers at the school and
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(01:20:42):
Joseph wars Up saying, hug yourkids, hump your loved one, and
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