October 9, 2025 • 49 mins
This week, my guest is Chris Linder, discussing his program Home School Remix and how it can help you navigate our increasingly deteriorating education system.
Book: https://www.amazon.com/Homeschool-Remix-Christopher-Linder/dp/0997291257
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Thank you. Welcome to the Delvin Cox
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Experience, the podcast which each week I'm on a one man
mission to United Coast to diversity.
I'm your host, Delvin Cox. And with me on the podcast this
week is a special guest, a brother who's out here doing
some good work. My boy Chris Linda, how you
doing bro? I am great man.
How are you? How are you?
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I'm doing really good, really good.
OK. As always, let's start the
podcast off with the five for five, five questions, 5 answers
to get the ball on the quiz. Are you ready?
I am ready all. Right question #1 What are you
putting on a hot dog? Anything but catch up, ah.
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Interesting. Now I'm, I'm from, I'm from the
Midwest and you know, they say in Chicago, you don't put
ketchup on a hot dog. And, and there's reasons for
that. First of all, if I mean the hot
dog is going to be all beef, it's not going to be.
I do that. Chicken lips and pig anuses and
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everything. Yeah, I don't like those hot
dogs. Yeah, those trash.
The chicken, the chicken, hot dogs and the pork, whatever they
call it. Hot dogs are trash.
They are garbage. Right.
You know, I'll, I'll feed that to the kids.
But you know, if I'm, if I'm making, if I'm having a hot dog,
which is rare, it's going to be on a bun with some BBQ sauce, a
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little bit of cha cha, like a, you know, hot pickle relish kind
of thing. Yeah, I like that.
And, and it'll be that, but usually I'm, you know, I'll,
I'll do Bratwurst to do, you know, like a Polish sausage or
something like that. Bratwurst are pretty good.
Yeah, they can't be I. Had one, it's been a minute
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since I had one. A little bit dope though.
I'm big on, I got a smoker, so I'm big on putting stuff on the
smoker. And so I'll do like a, you know,
big butt pork, pork shoulder, you know, and then I'll smoke
some sausages or smoke some boudin, which is kind of like
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it's from Louisiana or like Houston area.
It's kind of like a, it's kind of like dirty.
It's kind of like dirty rice wrapped in a in a sausage
casing. And.
Pork, pork and rice. And like this kind of spicy
mixture I got. I lived in Houston for a little
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bit. Yeah, I got, I got kind of
addicted to that so. Crispy out here smoking that
meat. Right, right.
Do a brisket too. Oh, that's now.
Now you're talking question #2 what's a commercial Jingle that
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you can't get out your head? I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go old
school on this. I'm gonna go way back to
Coca-Cola, The Hills. No man, way back.
OK. I'd like to teach the world to
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sing in perfect harmony. Oh, OK.
Remember that old Coke commercial?
I remember that one. And I'll tell you why 'cause I
just got got through with the rewatch of the Cho Mad Men.
It's about advertising agencies.I'm really into advertising and
I'm into like 50s and 60s culture.
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So Mad Men was all about this adman, Don Draper and the finale.
And I hate to spoil it for people, but you know, not much.
Spoiler It feels like really oldnow.
Yeah, yeah, it's, it's it's beena while.
So but the finale he basically comes up with the idea for the
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coke Jingle. Oh, that one.
Yeah, and that's how that's how the whole series ends.
So I just thought, I think that,you know, I think that Jingle is
an important part of history, pop culture history, advertising
history. So yeah, that would be the one.
OK, that's a good one. I like that one.
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All right, question #3 Chris, what's the dumbest thing you
think you've done as a kid? I did lots of dumb shit as a
kid. Well, don't get, don't get.
A Let me, let me let me say thatright there.
I've done lots of dumb, dumb stuff.
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I'll tell you. I'll tell you the dumbest,
probably the dumbest thing I ever did as a kid, what had to
have had to have done with fireworks.
OK, blew someone's house up. No.
Almost. Probably a couple times.
Almost. But no.
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We, me and my buddies used to wecall ourselves chemists.
We used to try to make plastic explosives.
There's a whole other word for that.
I think they, I think they call that domestic terrorism.
Right. Your definition of a chemist and
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mine is quite. Different.
The statute of limitations has passed, but I remember taking
the little firecrackers and carefully unwrapping them to get
the the gunpowder out and mixingit with talcum powder and
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gasoline into like a little dough, and then sticking and
fusing that and lighting it. Making plastic explosives.
Yeah, and that's probably the dumbest, dumbest thing.
I was. I was All in all mostly a good
kid, but that was probably the dumbest thing I've ever.
That is, that is kind of why I didn't.
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I, I would have never thought ofthat.
That's kind of smart, though. It's kind of smart.
All right, question #4 This is an interesting question for.
You all right? What are the three biggest
events you think you've seen, whether on TV?
Better, better way to put it. What are the three biggest
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events you think that has happened in your lifetime?
Number one was the Challenger explosion.
OK, that's a huge one. Yeah, 1986.
I was in an English class and ithad gotten to the point where
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the space shuttle would launch and it would be like, no big
deal. I remember the first time it
launched, you know, everybody's stopping and they're
broadcasting it live and all thekids are watching and everything
By by this time, it was going upkind of routinely.
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And we were coming back from lunch and one of my classmates,
Robbie, walks in. He's got like a, you know,
Walkman or whatever, and he's like, space shuttle just blew
up. And we were all just like
shocked, you know? But that would be the thing that
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you know that. Is wow.
Yeah, old people remember the JFK assassination, and they
remember exactly where they were.
I remember exactly where I was when I heard that the Space
shuttle had blown up. I never, we never would have
imagined it. Yeah, just in my head, I'm
thinking like, yeah, that is a different time because you like
you, you like a friend of yours had a Walkman in the air and
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they heard it off of that. Like that's, yeah, that's just a
different era. #2 probably I would say the two and three
happened in the 90s. The Rodney King beating and.
That was a big one. The fact that that was, you
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know, caught on tape and broadcast and everything.
So that pretty much brought, I remember that kind of brought
senior year to, to not to a halt, but you know, it kind of
ended my, my, you know, senior year in college with that memory
and aftermath of that. And then a couple years later,
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OJ Simpson. Oh, the Ponco rod.
Right, right. That just watching it on TV and
it it was like I was at work andyou know, it was going on while
I was at work was still going onwhen I when I got home and just
just watching the slow motion, you know, chase of a white
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Bronco driving through the city.And we're all like, this is not
just the oddest thing that has ever happened, you know what I
mean? Yeah, it it was really odd to
say the least, because there wasn't a high speed chase.
He was like he was going like speed limit until and you know,
he's like right, it stopped, it just ended Like it was a bunch
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of police cars that behind them they're like y'all probably
didn't need that many police cars.
He was like, you know, he like, if you think about a Rutcher's
been like he's not speeding, like just just wait till he
pulls over and then pull him outthe car.
But that is a a remember moment.I think that people kind of like
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remember from history. It's it's been parodied probably
100 times on TV. That was one of those pop
culture touchstones that, you know, going to last forever.
I agree. Question #5 zombie apocalypse
happens like The Walking Dead style.
There's slow zombies but it's a lot of them.
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You. You're going to take 5 things
with you to go out in the world and survive anything you want.
By the way, what are you taking with you?
Your family and pet doesn't count.
Can I go back be 1 of them? My bug out my bug out kit?
Basically I'm going to take. It's going to it's going to take
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some, some hunting, but I got tofind a CD player.
OK, because. I'm going to assume that radio's
going to be down. Eventually, yeah.
You know, internet's going to bedown.
I'm going to have to find my CD player.
It's in the basement somewhere. I'm going to take a copy of On
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the Road by Jack Kerouac. OK.
Because I never quite finished that book.
It's one of those books that that book is a vibe and you're
reading it and you know, well, at least for me, it was just
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easy to really zone out on it. But I never quite finished it.
So I think you know. Well, you have a little time to
finish it now. I got time, you know.
There's not besides besides my family members, I I guess I
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would. You know they automatically go,
I'm not going to. Let you all right good.
There's not much I really with all the and you can see in the
background I got all this stuff.You know, I've been, I've gotten
to a point in my life where I'vegot all the stuff and now I'm
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just like, I don't really need anything.
That's good. That's a good point to be in
life and I will, I will say this, it is a zombie apocalypse,
so you may need a weapon. Just saying.
Just want to put that out there for you.
You may need a weapon. Yeah, thanks for the hint.
I'm going to need a Thunder stick.
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I'll I'll be taking. I'll be taking 1 / 2 of those
and, and ammunition I guess automatically comes with that,
you know, by video game rules, you know, I guess it's loaded
and, and you know, I, I got a little, I'm going to have to dig
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out one of those little books ofCDs.
Old school. The old school flip flip case
things. I got I got to ask you a
question about the old school flip C book.
Yeah, this is the question I gotto ask 'cause this is this has
been a thing. How many of those C DS are legit
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and how many of them C DS are burned?
You already know. Yeah.
You know my percentage like 80205050. 3020, if I had, if I
had to guess, I'm going to, I'm going to say about 75 to 80%
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legit and then 10% burned CDs, OK, 10% burned MP threes on CD.
OK, yeah, because I. Don't know if you remember, but
there were two ways. There were a couple ways of
burning C DS. You could burn them like they
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could play in a regular CD player, but then they could also
you could fit like 175 songs on ACD but you can only play it in
like a computer or something that could play MP3 discs.
I remember that, yes. Yeah.
And then one of my proudest moments was finding when, when I
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bought a car, I must say 99, maybe 9.
Yeah, about 98 or 99. My my deck could play MP threes
off CD and I was like, I was set.
That's all I. Was like man.
That's all I needed. You could just walk around.
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Wow, look at my entire music collection.
You. Know just on one CD that can.
Fit in a little, you know, little SD card about this big,
you know so. Which is also good like if you
if you got the car they got the little SD card slots you also in
good shape. I had a mini disc player at one
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time. Those were good.
Those were good for the time. I was all into that man.
Yeah, you and me both, to say the least.
So, so Chris, people, people want to know, like what does
Chris do? Why is Chris?
So tell the audience a little bit about yourself and what what
you're here to talk about today,because I think that's really
fascinating for people. All right, so my big thing is
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homeschool Remix. I wrote a book called Homeschool
Remix and basically in a nutshell, I'm trying to remove
the stigma of homeschooling for black and brown parents.
OK. And really, what I'm trying to
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do is remix education. The way we look at education is
we raise kids and when they're 5or 6, we send them off to
kindergarten, first grade, and now it's school's turn to teach
them how to read, how to do math, how to communicate, and so
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on. The problem is once we pass that
responsibility off to the schools, they do, they do what
they do. They do a good job of raising
them until they're in 12th gradeand then graduating them.
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But the level of education that schools, traditional schools are
giving kids is just enough to tograduate and be moderately
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educated. They know how to follow
directions and they know how to be good workers.
The point of education in America is to raise a moderately
educated labor force for the upper class to depend on.
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That's why education has not changed substantially in the
last 125 years. That makes a lot of sense.
You'll notice that once you get into the wealthier communities,
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the schools are a lot better, and the parents in those
wealthier communities tend to send their kids to private
schools. Public schools are good enough
for the vast majority of the people out out there, but my kid
deserves a better education, so I'm going to pay a little bit
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extra money and send them to a private school.
Now they're trying to change thethe rules so that your tax
dollars, which normally would have gone to public education,
now they're going to send some of that money in the form of
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vouchers to parents who want to send their kids to private
school. The problem with that, yes, they
would get a a better education, but private schools are private.
They're exclusionary. They can decide who they're
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going to let in. And it doesn't have to be, you
know, it doesn't have to be opento everybody, correct?
So a private school can decide, well, you know what, you're from
a good family. I'm going to let you win.
You just don't really fit our you know, or or could you know,
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they make up any excuse. Or genetic make up.
Our our criteria. Yeah, we, yeah, we can.
We can be honest. Like sometimes they it's it,
sometimes race plays a partner to it.
It definitely, definitely. You know, when, when, doesn't
it? That's the question.
Exactly. You know, so I, I believe that
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once school choice, they call itschool choice when the voucher
program goes into effect. The, and studies have shown
this, the, the people that are most affected by this are black
and brown kids, LGBTQ kids, people from marginalized
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communities are less likely to get into those private schools
even with the voucher. And remember that the voucher
doesn't cover the whole tuition.You still kind of have to be
able to afford to go to that school.
Yes. You know what I mean?
So, so then the, the, the bottomline is that public schools be
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getting even less money than they're already getting.
Yeah. So even less funding, which
means the public schools will beeven worse.
But the the real bottom line andthe real effect that it has on
on families, especially marginalized families, is your
kids going to school for those 12 years.
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They're not learning critical thinking, they're not learning
financial literacy, they're not learning practical life skills.
They're not learning any black or brown history.
Correct. They're not learning anything
about any other culture besides the mainstream culture, which is
European, American culture because that's the one that's,
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you know, supposedly mainstreamed.
There's so much that your kid isnot getting in school that it's
our responsibility as parents tosay, OK, well, I need to
supplement that. Homeschool Remix is about
supplementing that education that they're getting in school
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with some home learning and not 100% full time homeschooling,
but mixing that traditional classroom, the structure and the
socialization that they get fromschool, mixing that with the
flexibility and freedom. And you know, you get to decide
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what you're going to teach at home.
And that's how you raise kids who are exposed to different
cultures. They can think critically,
they're creative, they can learn, practice leadership
skills, and they can thrive. Because otherwise, go ahead.
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No. I'm I'm I'm probably talking too
much. No, no, no, no.
I'm I'm glad. By my soapbox and.
No, no, you're perfect right now.
I'm glad you brought all this upbecause you didn't know this and
this makes you the perfect guestfor the show.
My kids were actually homeschooled.
Oh, OK. And I'll tell you a story about
why, because this feeds into what you were saying.
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So my son as a young kid, hyperactive kid, stuff like
that, we had him in public school, he was getting good
grades and stuff. But you know, he, he's mixed.
He's part, he's part black, he'spart Hispanic and he, he went to
school in a predominantly Hispanic area.
So kids would try to tease him and stuff like that.
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And he getting the issues, he had issues with school like that
and stuff like that. He got so he one day he got to
like a big fight at school and stuff.
So we said, you know what, we got a little bit of money.
So we'll, his mom thought it'd be a good idea to put him in a
private school. And his mom being Hispanic was
like, OK, I want to put him in aprivate school with
predominantly Hispanic kids. OK, So me, I, I was constantly
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working at the time, you know, Ihad a nine to five and then
some, but all right, you know, you go ahead and handle that
while you work. I know she worked, she worked as
well, but you know, it wasn't asmuch.
So, so you go ahead and handle it.
Put him in the school that you see fit.
So I I put him in the school that he that she see saw fit and
it was a it was a Spanish private school where most of the
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students were Hispanic and it was based out, it was Christian
based. OK.
When I tell you years later I found this out and which made me
take myself to school immediately, my son was like he
said this school. I am miserable in this school
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and I don't know how to tell youthis because mom put me here.
I didn't know what to say, but the kids were being racist to
me. And I would tell the teacher and
they'll be like, ah, you just going to learn how to take a
joke. He said that I would deal with
so much stuff in the school because they would say stuff and
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they were kind of like stereotype him because he was
black. And they're like, oh, it's,
it's, it's OK. Like, like for a good example, a
student said the N word to him and he steps the student about
it. And then students like, well,
why I can't say it? You can say it and you're not
black. It's like, what are you talking
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about? And then you talk to the teacher
about it. She's like, well, you shouldn't
be saying it either. And like, whoa, isn't this a
conversation that and no, no, none of these people are black.
It's not my son. And this, this conversation
wasn't had with any of his, his parents.
Like I had to find out from this, about this conversation
later for my son, like, and I had to confront the teacher by
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like, oh, we didn't know. We couldn't say.
What do you mean you didn't know?
You could say that. What do you mean you didn't know
this was a thing? And so I, I ended up taking him
out to school and put him in home schooling because, you
know, and what I noticed was this was a prestigious private
school, you know, people got gave him high marks, stuff like
that. Sure.
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What I noticed when he got out at school, he didn't, he was not
at the same sufficient educationlevel that I was when I was in
public school. Like he knew less than me.
Like certain things that you would know, he just had no clue
about. Like, so I put him at home
school and you know, they have like, they have like this thing,
you know, it's close to the pandemic time too.
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So everybody was going to home school.
So we just did the whole processthrough there.
And as I was looking at his education level, like you're
woefully behind on things that you should probably know by now,
like in terms like black history, he knew about Martin
Luther King, Malcolm X. That was it in terms of like
other things that you would know.
Maybe Rosa Parks? Yes, in terms of things that you
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wouldn't know at his level, he didn't had no clue of because
the school, frankly speaking, wasn't teaching it.
They had their own curriculum, they had their own thing they
wanted to teach and other thingsthey just left by the wayside.
So I'm like, I'm like, so I had to end up spending my time like
getting off work and helping bring him up to level the where
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he needed to be at, right? Because of the, the school
system, not the public school system.
I say the private school system failing him.
And that's why I think what you're saying right now
resonates with me, 'cause I knowwhat it's.
Like and it's, yeah, that's the truth.
I, I went to Christian Charter elementary school and the way
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our, the way our classroom was set up, we worked in cubicles on
individual paces, We worked at our own pace on little booklets.
When we had a question or something, we put our little
flag in the top of our desk and a supervisor would come by,
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answer our questions and we'd gofrom there.
But I understand the, the differences with a Christian
School as opposed to a secular school or some other kinds of
private schools or public schools because I was, I was
brought up in that world and I know first hand experience what
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it's like being one of the only black kids in a predominantly
white school where there's no, Imean, there's no filter on the,
the level of racism that you geton a daily basis.
Correct. From both other students and the
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teachers administration. I mean, that's, that's just
something that like I grew up with it.
And it's alarming. It, it is when you look back at
it, when you, when you think, well, you know, that's, that's
not supposed to be like that. You know, that's it's, it's eye
opening. And I know that, you know, I'm
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not, I'm not here to talk about religion, but I know that there
is no hate like Christian love. That is a.
That is a very accurate statement.
You know, and yeah, I'll just, I'll just leave it at that.
I don't, you know. That is a conversation for
another day. I don't need half the country
mad at me, but put that out. There, you're not wrong, I'll
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say that, but. I mean, and that's the thing
about about the framework, I came up with this hybrid
homeschooling homeschool remix framework.
You can, you can teach your kidswhatever you want.
And if you want to gravitate towards a faith-based
curriculum, that's fine. You have the freedom to do that.
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You know, there's people on the right who are mad that, you
know, the 10 commandments aren'tposted in schools or you know,
that, you know, Bible study should be a should be an
elective that's offered in public school.
Feel free to go ahead and teach that at home.
And that's why homeschooling is such a big thing among the far
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right Christian community. Yes, you know.
But I mean, it works both ways. If you don't want your kids
education mixed with religion, you should have the freedom to
pick and choose other curriculumthat don't have a Bible base or
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don't have faith-based curriculamixed in with it.
So there's a big movement among some homeschoolers.
It's not, it's not a big movement, but it's kind of a
movement towards secular homeschooling and there are
there are resources out there that are specifically non
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religious based. So let me ask you, how does your
system that you created work? So what it is, is basically a
very flexible set of guidelines and strategies and tips and
resource recommendations so thatyou can customize education
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based on what your kid needs, based on what your family values
are, based on what they're not getting in their traditional
school. Now, a lot of kids go to school
and they do really well in English.
They're they're good in science.They may be struggling with math
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with my framework. What you're doing is you're
leaving them in school and they get that they're still taking
their math classes, but you're also finding some other
curriculum that you can help them with their math with.
So in my case, I, I bring up math because I'm not a great
student in math. I I can stumble through it.
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Me neither. When my, when my youngest child,
Yeah, my, my youngest child was having trouble in algebra, it
was already like, like, I don't remember any of this.
I remember, you know, X + Y. But what is all this, you know?
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So I, I went out and found a curriculum based on the
curriculum that I used when I was in elementary school and use
that to help teach them math, help teach them algebra.
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And it worked. So I realized that there's ways
around making sure that your kids not failing in school
because ultimately that's, that's your responsibility as a
parent. Ultimately it's the kids
responsibility. But really, as a parent, you've
got to give them all the tools that they they can have access
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to so that they, you know, can understand what's going on in in
class, you know? And this is not a pejorative at
all. What I'm saying is actually a
compliment. This sounds similar to how ABC
Mouse was set up. Do you remember that?
I remember ABC mouse and it is kind of similar to that.
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There are some differences, but this is more family centered.
This is more the parents taking a a larger role and and also
communicating with the the school.
Because with this, with this hybrid homeschooling, it's not
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the burden isn't all on you as aparent.
The responsibility is there, just not the burden.
You have to depend on the schoolto a certain extent.
You have to depend on the teacher.
You have to work in partnership with the teacher that's just
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checking in with him via e-mail.You know, the beginning of the
semester. You're shouting, outgoing, hey,
you know, I'm Brooke's dad. And if they have any trouble,
just let me know. Let me know how I can help you,
you know, how how I can help yousupport you in classroom.
If there's a concept that they're not getting, let me know
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because maybe I can help them out at home, you know, using
some other methods. And then for the classes that
just don't exist in regular, regular school, like financial
literacy classes, they don't have those or classes in black
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history that, you know, just aren't getting taught in a lot
of schools, in fact, getting erased from textbooks.
Then you find curriculum that will, that will teach those
things, that will address those things.
So really it's about I, I don't want to say Frankensteining a, a
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curriculum, but it's customizingor adapting resources that are
out there and designing a customcurriculum for your child.
OK. And your system kind of
streamlines it for that. Yeah, definitely.
It streamlines it and it also adds in strategies, teaching
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strategies. It breaks down pedagogy so that
parents can feel confident enough to to teach their kids.
There's a lot. The, the big stigma out there is
the pushback that I used to get a lot is I'm not qualified to
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teach my kids the school. I leave that up to the school.
I don't tell them how to do their job.
They don't tell me how to do my job and so on.
Parents don't think that they'requalified to home school because
they're not masters in whatever the subject is and they're not
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masters of education. And there's some truth to that
because teachers are professionals and they've gone
to school to learn how to be great teachers.
But take any child and a child'sbest teacher is their parent.
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Because what you don't know about the science of teaching
can be learned. But it's much harder to learn
how exactly your child learns best how they respond to things.
It's hard for a teacher to learnthat, but a parent knows it
innately. Let me ask you this.
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I think that's the that's the point to bring up.
How does a parent, let's say like a, let's say a mother works
a nine to five job. How does your program help that
parent who already has working this full shipping job, come
home and have the tools to help her her child with schoolwork
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and still get the things done that she needs to get done?
A lot of it is about prioritizing and time management
organization. When people first start
homeschooling, they tend to be really nervous when they're
starting out and they want to kind of either jump into it
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110%, let's do everything, let'sput everything on a little
calendar and this is how we're going to do it.
And then when one thing goes awry, the whole plan falls
apart. You have to be flexible enough
to adapt to the way that your child is learning, and they have
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to basically adapt to the whole learning at home, you know,
theory or philosophy. But if you do it right, if you
adapt early on, you can make it so you're not spending all of
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your time. Giving lectures to your to your
child. The the ideal thing would be to
spend maybe an hour a day or fewhours a couple of times a week
with your child in specific targeted sessions.
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Let your child do whatever work that they need to do on those
other nights or other days and you go from there.
You don't there's parents think that their kids are at school
all day and they're learning that whole day.
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They're not. No, they're only learning maybe
an hour, couple hours a day. If you take out all the BS of
getting to school, going from class to class, doing lunch
hour, the time between the end of school and the start of, you
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know, soccer practice or what have you.
There's a lot of fooling around that goes on at school, that
socialization stuff, which is important, but it's not learning
time. You can compact learning time
into an hour or two a day. And when you think about it, and
this is kind of a, this is kind of a strong point in the in the
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home school full time column, you could probably spend the
same time homeschooling your kidas you do, taking them to
school, making sure they're doing all of their school duties
and, and doing all that stuff and picking them up.
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And you know, the, IT could, it could balance out OK, you know,
but I, one of the reasons I designed the framework the way
it is to be so flexible is because I know in black and
brown households, it's not always a case of you got one
parent staying at home. You know, a lot of times it's
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single parent, a lot of times it's both parents working full
time. There's not a lot of time,
there's not a lot of money. And at the end of the day,
there's not a lot of energy. But what this framework is
designed to do is to help you pick and choose what you can do
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and what you need to do. And you hit the ground running,
you go from there and your kids thrive.
OK, if there's one thing that someone can learn from your
book, what is that one thing youwant to learn?
Listen to your child. Listen to your student.
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In the book, I refer to your child and student
interchangeably. When you're focused on hybrid
homeschooling, you're thinking of your child as a student, but
they're both. But you need to listen to them
and let them guide, almost in a Montessori way.
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Let them guide their learning. Let them tell you or show you
what they're interested in, and then you make sure that they can
connect their interests to the skills that they need to learn
because you can learn from anything.
I used to use when I was in Korea teaching English, I used
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movies to teach idioms and slang.
I remember this was when Jerry Maguire came out and.
Great movie. Yeah, We took the the film of
Jerry Maguire, the videotape when it came out of video.
And I would go to, I downloaded the script off the Internet and
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I would go to, back then, you know, you had to go to this
Internet Cafe and I would type up sections of the script and
point out like the idioms and slang.
And we would go through and watch scene by scene and go line
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by line and talk about every line in that movie.
Every line. And Jerry Maguire, I can't do it
now, but I used to be able to watch that movie and quote the
entire movie because we so intensively studied that movie
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and the the the students were right on it.
That's dope. Because kids get interested in
what they're interested in. And, you know, you just have to
find a way to to connect to theywanted to see American movies.
They wanted to learn, you know, what does this expression mean?
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Why is this like this? Where does this come from?
You know, your kid is the same way.
You just have to find what it's going to be that's going to
interest them. And everything.
All these other subjects from STEM and math to media literacy,
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everything can be tied into the things that they're into,
whether it's video games, whether it's comics, you know,
television, whatever. Find a way to connect it to what
they're interested in, and it makes it a lot easier.
But the important thing, the most important thing is critical
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thinking. You've got to teach them
critical thinking. Teach them how to learn.
You've got to model that for them because if you teach them
how to learn, you can let them go and they can learn on their
own. I mean, when they, you know,
graduate and go out into the world, they can learn what they
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need to know at a job or in college and so on.
That's the most important take away from being in middle school
and high school. If you learn how to learn and
how to think critically about the world around you, the
world's yours. That's what they're learning in
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private school. They're not, They're not
learning that in public school because it's not important to
the Department of Education for for kids to learn that.
They're not learning how to think critically because to, to
work in a factory or work in a field, you don't really need
those skills. You need to read a little bit,
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you need to know how to follow directions.
But all that other stuff, Leadership, no.
Critical thinking, no. Creativity.
No. We don't need you to think
outside the box. And that's why we're failing in
education compared to other countries in the world.
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That's why we've slipped so far behind them, and it's by design.
And frankly speaking, it's probably going to slip more.
Oh yeah, and. That's why it's a blessing we
have people like you who are putting these programs out to
help make our young minds smart and sharp.
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I appreciate you man. Man, thanks for having me, man.
It's it's been good. My pleasure.
Let them know to find you and let them know to get the book
in. That's the most important goal.
Let's sell some read books. You can find the book.
You can find the book. It's called Homeschool Remix.
You can find it on Amazon. You can find it at any
bookstore. So I would say don't go the easy
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route and get it out of Amazon. Get it from a local bookstore,
get it from a black bookstore 'cause they can order it, they
can get it to you, support your local businesses, but also you
can find me on homeschoolremix.com and you can
connect with us at Homeschool Remix on Facebook and TikTok and
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Instagram. Although I don't really post a
lot of stuff, but, you know, andthen I post other stuff under,
you know, under my real name, but then, you know, it's going
to be all political and inflammatory and.
That is, that is my bag, Sir. Oh man, thank you for coming on
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bro. Man, it's been great man.
Thanks for having me. You're welcome, man.
You're welcome. Back on it anytime you want to,
man. Thank you, Don.
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Thank you. Welcome to the Delvin Cox
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Experience, the podcast which each week I'm on a one man
mission to United Coast to diversity.
I'm your host, Delvin Cox. And with me on the podcast this
week is a special guest, a brother who's out here doing
some good work. My boy Chris Linda, how you
doing bro? I am great man.
How are you? How are you?
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I'm doing really good, really good.
OK. As always, let's start the
podcast off with the five for five, five questions, 5 answers
to get the ball on the quiz. Are you ready?
I am ready all. Right question #1 What are you
putting on a hot dog? Anything but catch up, ah.
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Interesting. Now I'm, I'm from, I'm from the
Midwest and you know, they say in Chicago, you don't put
ketchup on a hot dog. And, and there's reasons for
that. First of all, if I mean the hot
dog is going to be all beef, it's not going to be.
I do that. Chicken lips and pig anuses and
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everything. Yeah, I don't like those hot
dogs. Yeah, those trash.
The chicken, the chicken, hot dogs and the pork, whatever they
call it. Hot dogs are trash.
They are garbage. Right.
You know, I'll, I'll feed that to the kids.
But you know, if I'm, if I'm making, if I'm having a hot dog,
which is rare, it's going to be on a bun with some BBQ sauce, a
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little bit of cha cha, like a, you know, hot pickle relish kind
of thing. Yeah, I like that.
And, and it'll be that, but usually I'm, you know, I'll,
I'll do Bratwurst to do, you know, like a Polish sausage or
something like that. Bratwurst are pretty good.
Yeah, they can't be I. Had one, it's been a minute
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since I had one. A little bit dope though.
I'm big on, I got a smoker, so I'm big on putting stuff on the
smoker. And so I'll do like a, you know,
big butt pork, pork shoulder, you know, and then I'll smoke
some sausages or smoke some boudin, which is kind of like
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it's from Louisiana or like Houston area.
It's kind of like a, it's kind of like dirty.
It's kind of like dirty rice wrapped in a in a sausage
casing. And.
Pork, pork and rice. And like this kind of spicy
mixture I got. I lived in Houston for a little
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bit. Yeah, I got, I got kind of
addicted to that so. Crispy out here smoking that
meat. Right, right.
Do a brisket too. Oh, that's now.
Now you're talking question #2 what's a commercial Jingle that
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you can't get out your head? I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go old
school on this. I'm gonna go way back to
Coca-Cola, The Hills. No man, way back.
OK. I'd like to teach the world to
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sing in perfect harmony. Oh, OK.
Remember that old Coke commercial?
I remember that one. And I'll tell you why 'cause I
just got got through with the rewatch of the Cho Mad Men.
It's about advertising agencies.I'm really into advertising and
I'm into like 50s and 60s culture.
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So Mad Men was all about this adman, Don Draper and the finale.
And I hate to spoil it for people, but you know, not much.
Spoiler It feels like really oldnow.
Yeah, yeah, it's, it's it's beena while.
So but the finale he basically comes up with the idea for the
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coke Jingle. Oh, that one.
Yeah, and that's how that's how the whole series ends.
So I just thought, I think that,you know, I think that Jingle is
an important part of history, pop culture history, advertising
history. So yeah, that would be the one.
OK, that's a good one. I like that one.
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All right, question #3 Chris, what's the dumbest thing you
think you've done as a kid? I did lots of dumb shit as a
kid. Well, don't get, don't get.
A Let me, let me let me say thatright there.
I've done lots of dumb, dumb stuff.
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I'll tell you. I'll tell you the dumbest,
probably the dumbest thing I ever did as a kid, what had to
have had to have done with fireworks.
OK, blew someone's house up. No.
Almost. Probably a couple times.
Almost. But no.
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We, me and my buddies used to wecall ourselves chemists.
We used to try to make plastic explosives.
There's a whole other word for that.
I think they, I think they call that domestic terrorism.
Right. Your definition of a chemist and
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mine is quite. Different.
The statute of limitations has passed, but I remember taking
the little firecrackers and carefully unwrapping them to get
the the gunpowder out and mixingit with talcum powder and
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gasoline into like a little dough, and then sticking and
fusing that and lighting it. Making plastic explosives.
Yeah, and that's probably the dumbest, dumbest thing.
I was. I was All in all mostly a good
kid, but that was probably the dumbest thing I've ever.
That is, that is kind of why I didn't.
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I, I would have never thought ofthat.
That's kind of smart, though. It's kind of smart.
All right, question #4 This is an interesting question for.
You all right? What are the three biggest
events you think you've seen, whether on TV?
Better, better way to put it. What are the three biggest
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events you think that has happened in your lifetime?
Number one was the Challenger explosion.
OK, that's a huge one. Yeah, 1986.
I was in an English class and ithad gotten to the point where
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the space shuttle would launch and it would be like, no big
deal. I remember the first time it
launched, you know, everybody's stopping and they're
broadcasting it live and all thekids are watching and everything
By by this time, it was going upkind of routinely.
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And we were coming back from lunch and one of my classmates,
Robbie, walks in. He's got like a, you know,
Walkman or whatever, and he's like, space shuttle just blew
up. And we were all just like
shocked, you know? But that would be the thing that
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you know that. Is wow.
Yeah, old people remember the JFK assassination, and they
remember exactly where they were.
I remember exactly where I was when I heard that the Space
shuttle had blown up. I never, we never would have
imagined it. Yeah, just in my head, I'm
thinking like, yeah, that is a different time because you like
you, you like a friend of yours had a Walkman in the air and
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they heard it off of that. Like that's, yeah, that's just a
different era. #2 probably I would say the two and three
happened in the 90s. The Rodney King beating and.
That was a big one. The fact that that was, you
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know, caught on tape and broadcast and everything.
So that pretty much brought, I remember that kind of brought
senior year to, to not to a halt, but you know, it kind of
ended my, my, you know, senior year in college with that memory
and aftermath of that. And then a couple years later,
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OJ Simpson. Oh, the Ponco rod.
Right, right. That just watching it on TV and
it it was like I was at work andyou know, it was going on while
I was at work was still going onwhen I when I got home and just
just watching the slow motion, you know, chase of a white
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Bronco driving through the city.And we're all like, this is not
just the oddest thing that has ever happened, you know what I
mean? Yeah, it it was really odd to
say the least, because there wasn't a high speed chase.
He was like he was going like speed limit until and you know,
he's like right, it stopped, it just ended Like it was a bunch
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of police cars that behind them they're like y'all probably
didn't need that many police cars.
He was like, you know, he like, if you think about a Rutcher's
been like he's not speeding, like just just wait till he
pulls over and then pull him outthe car.
But that is a a remember moment.I think that people kind of like
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remember from history. It's it's been parodied probably
100 times on TV. That was one of those pop
culture touchstones that, you know, going to last forever.
I agree. Question #5 zombie apocalypse
happens like The Walking Dead style.
There's slow zombies but it's a lot of them.
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You. You're going to take 5 things
with you to go out in the world and survive anything you want.
By the way, what are you taking with you?
Your family and pet doesn't count.
Can I go back be 1 of them? My bug out my bug out kit?
Basically I'm going to take. It's going to it's going to take
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some, some hunting, but I got tofind a CD player.
OK, because. I'm going to assume that radio's
going to be down. Eventually, yeah.
You know, internet's going to bedown.
I'm going to have to find my CD player.
It's in the basement somewhere. I'm going to take a copy of On
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the Road by Jack Kerouac. OK.
Because I never quite finished that book.
It's one of those books that that book is a vibe and you're
reading it and you know, well, at least for me, it was just
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easy to really zone out on it. But I never quite finished it.
So I think you know. Well, you have a little time to
finish it now. I got time, you know.
There's not besides besides my family members, I I guess I
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would. You know they automatically go,
I'm not going to. Let you all right good.
There's not much I really with all the and you can see in the
background I got all this stuff.You know, I've been, I've gotten
to a point in my life where I'vegot all the stuff and now I'm
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just like, I don't really need anything.
That's good. That's a good point to be in
life and I will, I will say this, it is a zombie apocalypse,
so you may need a weapon. Just saying.
Just want to put that out there for you.
You may need a weapon. Yeah, thanks for the hint.
I'm going to need a Thunder stick.
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I'll I'll be taking. I'll be taking 1 / 2 of those
and, and ammunition I guess automatically comes with that,
you know, by video game rules, you know, I guess it's loaded
and, and you know, I, I got a little, I'm going to have to dig
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out one of those little books ofCDs.
Old school. The old school flip flip case
things. I got I got to ask you a
question about the old school flip C book.
Yeah, this is the question I gotto ask 'cause this is this has
been a thing. How many of those C DS are legit
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and how many of them C DS are burned?
You already know. Yeah.
You know my percentage like 80205050. 3020, if I had, if I
had to guess, I'm going to, I'm going to say about 75 to 80%
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legit and then 10% burned CDs, OK, 10% burned MP threes on CD.
OK, yeah, because I. Don't know if you remember, but
there were two ways. There were a couple ways of
burning C DS. You could burn them like they
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could play in a regular CD player, but then they could also
you could fit like 175 songs on ACD but you can only play it in
like a computer or something that could play MP3 discs.
I remember that, yes. Yeah.
And then one of my proudest moments was finding when, when I
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bought a car, I must say 99, maybe 9.
Yeah, about 98 or 99. My my deck could play MP threes
off CD and I was like, I was set.
That's all I. Was like man.
That's all I needed. You could just walk around.
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Wow, look at my entire music collection.
You. Know just on one CD that can.
Fit in a little, you know, little SD card about this big,
you know so. Which is also good like if you
if you got the car they got the little SD card slots you also in
good shape. I had a mini disc player at one
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time. Those were good.
Those were good for the time. I was all into that man.
Yeah, you and me both, to say the least.
So, so Chris, people, people want to know, like what does
Chris do? Why is Chris?
So tell the audience a little bit about yourself and what what
you're here to talk about today,because I think that's really
fascinating for people. All right, so my big thing is
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homeschool Remix. I wrote a book called Homeschool
Remix and basically in a nutshell, I'm trying to remove
the stigma of homeschooling for black and brown parents.
OK. And really, what I'm trying to
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do is remix education. The way we look at education is
we raise kids and when they're 5or 6, we send them off to
kindergarten, first grade, and now it's school's turn to teach
them how to read, how to do math, how to communicate, and so
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on. The problem is once we pass that
responsibility off to the schools, they do, they do what
they do. They do a good job of raising
them until they're in 12th gradeand then graduating them.
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But the level of education that schools, traditional schools are
giving kids is just enough to tograduate and be moderately
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educated. They know how to follow
directions and they know how to be good workers.
The point of education in America is to raise a moderately
educated labor force for the upper class to depend on.
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That's why education has not changed substantially in the
last 125 years. That makes a lot of sense.
You'll notice that once you get into the wealthier communities,
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the schools are a lot better, and the parents in those
wealthier communities tend to send their kids to private
schools. Public schools are good enough
for the vast majority of the people out out there, but my kid
deserves a better education, so I'm going to pay a little bit
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extra money and send them to a private school.
Now they're trying to change thethe rules so that your tax
dollars, which normally would have gone to public education,
now they're going to send some of that money in the form of
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vouchers to parents who want to send their kids to private
school. The problem with that, yes, they
would get a a better education, but private schools are private.
They're exclusionary. They can decide who they're
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going to let in. And it doesn't have to be, you
know, it doesn't have to be opento everybody, correct?
So a private school can decide, well, you know what, you're from
a good family. I'm going to let you win.
You just don't really fit our you know, or or could you know,
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they make up any excuse. Or genetic make up.
Our our criteria. Yeah, we, yeah, we can.
We can be honest. Like sometimes they it's it,
sometimes race plays a partner to it.
It definitely, definitely. You know, when, when, doesn't
it? That's the question.
Exactly. You know, so I, I believe that
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once school choice, they call itschool choice when the voucher
program goes into effect. The, and studies have shown
this, the, the people that are most affected by this are black
and brown kids, LGBTQ kids, people from marginalized
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communities are less likely to get into those private schools
even with the voucher. And remember that the voucher
doesn't cover the whole tuition.You still kind of have to be
able to afford to go to that school.
Yes. You know what I mean?
So, so then the, the, the bottomline is that public schools be
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getting even less money than they're already getting.
Yeah. So even less funding, which
means the public schools will beeven worse.
But the the real bottom line andthe real effect that it has on
on families, especially marginalized families, is your
kids going to school for those 12 years.
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They're not learning critical thinking, they're not learning
financial literacy, they're not learning practical life skills.
They're not learning any black or brown history.
Correct. They're not learning anything
about any other culture besides the mainstream culture, which is
European, American culture because that's the one that's,
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you know, supposedly mainstreamed.
There's so much that your kid isnot getting in school that it's
our responsibility as parents tosay, OK, well, I need to
supplement that. Homeschool Remix is about
supplementing that education that they're getting in school
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with some home learning and not 100% full time homeschooling,
but mixing that traditional classroom, the structure and the
socialization that they get fromschool, mixing that with the
flexibility and freedom. And you know, you get to decide
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what you're going to teach at home.
And that's how you raise kids who are exposed to different
cultures. They can think critically,
they're creative, they can learn, practice leadership
skills, and they can thrive. Because otherwise, go ahead.
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No. I'm I'm I'm probably talking too
much. No, no, no, no.
I'm I'm glad. By my soapbox and.
No, no, you're perfect right now.
I'm glad you brought all this upbecause you didn't know this and
this makes you the perfect guestfor the show.
My kids were actually homeschooled.
Oh, OK. And I'll tell you a story about
why, because this feeds into what you were saying.
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So my son as a young kid, hyperactive kid, stuff like
that, we had him in public school, he was getting good
grades and stuff. But you know, he, he's mixed.
He's part, he's part black, he'spart Hispanic and he, he went to
school in a predominantly Hispanic area.
So kids would try to tease him and stuff like that.
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And he getting the issues, he had issues with school like that
and stuff like that. He got so he one day he got to
like a big fight at school and stuff.
So we said, you know what, we got a little bit of money.
So we'll, his mom thought it'd be a good idea to put him in a
private school. And his mom being Hispanic was
like, OK, I want to put him in aprivate school with
predominantly Hispanic kids. OK, So me, I, I was constantly
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working at the time, you know, Ihad a nine to five and then
some, but all right, you know, you go ahead and handle that
while you work. I know she worked, she worked as
well, but you know, it wasn't asmuch.
So, so you go ahead and handle it.
Put him in the school that you see fit.
So I I put him in the school that he that she see saw fit and
it was a it was a Spanish private school where most of the
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students were Hispanic and it was based out, it was Christian
based. OK.
When I tell you years later I found this out and which made me
take myself to school immediately, my son was like he
said this school. I am miserable in this school
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and I don't know how to tell youthis because mom put me here.
I didn't know what to say, but the kids were being racist to
me. And I would tell the teacher and
they'll be like, ah, you just going to learn how to take a
joke. He said that I would deal with
so much stuff in the school because they would say stuff and
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they were kind of like stereotype him because he was
black. And they're like, oh, it's,
it's, it's OK. Like, like for a good example, a
student said the N word to him and he steps the student about
it. And then students like, well,
why I can't say it? You can say it and you're not
black. It's like, what are you talking
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about? And then you talk to the teacher
about it. She's like, well, you shouldn't
be saying it either. And like, whoa, isn't this a
conversation that and no, no, none of these people are black.
It's not my son. And this, this conversation
wasn't had with any of his, his parents.
Like I had to find out from this, about this conversation
later for my son, like, and I had to confront the teacher by
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like, oh, we didn't know. We couldn't say.
What do you mean you didn't know?
You could say that. What do you mean you didn't know
this was a thing? And so I, I ended up taking him
out to school and put him in home schooling because, you
know, and what I noticed was this was a prestigious private
school, you know, people got gave him high marks, stuff like
that. Sure.
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What I noticed when he got out at school, he didn't, he was not
at the same sufficient educationlevel that I was when I was in
public school. Like he knew less than me.
Like certain things that you would know, he just had no clue
about. Like, so I put him at home
school and you know, they have like, they have like this thing,
you know, it's close to the pandemic time too.
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So everybody was going to home school.
So we just did the whole processthrough there.
And as I was looking at his education level, like you're
woefully behind on things that you should probably know by now,
like in terms like black history, he knew about Martin
Luther King, Malcolm X. That was it in terms of like
other things that you would know.
Maybe Rosa Parks? Yes, in terms of things that you
(27:58):
wouldn't know at his level, he didn't had no clue of because
the school, frankly speaking, wasn't teaching it.
They had their own curriculum, they had their own thing they
wanted to teach and other thingsthey just left by the wayside.
So I'm like, I'm like, so I had to end up spending my time like
getting off work and helping bring him up to level the where
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he needed to be at, right? Because of the, the school
system, not the public school system.
I say the private school system failing him.
And that's why I think what you're saying right now
resonates with me, 'cause I knowwhat it's.
Like and it's, yeah, that's the truth.
I, I went to Christian Charter elementary school and the way
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our, the way our classroom was set up, we worked in cubicles on
individual paces, We worked at our own pace on little booklets.
When we had a question or something, we put our little
flag in the top of our desk and a supervisor would come by,
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answer our questions and we'd gofrom there.
But I understand the, the differences with a Christian
School as opposed to a secular school or some other kinds of
private schools or public schools because I was, I was
brought up in that world and I know first hand experience what
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it's like being one of the only black kids in a predominantly
white school where there's no, Imean, there's no filter on the,
the level of racism that you geton a daily basis.
Correct. From both other students and the
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teachers administration. I mean, that's, that's just
something that like I grew up with it.
And it's alarming. It, it is when you look back at
it, when you, when you think, well, you know, that's, that's
not supposed to be like that. You know, that's it's, it's eye
opening. And I know that, you know, I'm
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not, I'm not here to talk about religion, but I know that there
is no hate like Christian love. That is a.
That is a very accurate statement.
You know, and yeah, I'll just, I'll just leave it at that.
I don't, you know. That is a conversation for
another day. I don't need half the country
mad at me, but put that out. There, you're not wrong, I'll
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say that, but. I mean, and that's the thing
about about the framework, I came up with this hybrid
homeschooling homeschool remix framework.
You can, you can teach your kidswhatever you want.
And if you want to gravitate towards a faith-based
curriculum, that's fine. You have the freedom to do that.
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You know, there's people on the right who are mad that, you
know, the 10 commandments aren'tposted in schools or you know,
that, you know, Bible study should be a should be an
elective that's offered in public school.
Feel free to go ahead and teach that at home.
And that's why homeschooling is such a big thing among the far
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right Christian community. Yes, you know.
But I mean, it works both ways. If you don't want your kids
education mixed with religion, you should have the freedom to
pick and choose other curriculumthat don't have a Bible base or
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don't have faith-based curriculamixed in with it.
So there's a big movement among some homeschoolers.
It's not, it's not a big movement, but it's kind of a
movement towards secular homeschooling and there are
there are resources out there that are specifically non
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religious based. So let me ask you, how does your
system that you created work? So what it is, is basically a
very flexible set of guidelines and strategies and tips and
resource recommendations so thatyou can customize education
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based on what your kid needs, based on what your family values
are, based on what they're not getting in their traditional
school. Now, a lot of kids go to school
and they do really well in English.
They're they're good in science.They may be struggling with math
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with my framework. What you're doing is you're
leaving them in school and they get that they're still taking
their math classes, but you're also finding some other
curriculum that you can help them with their math with.
So in my case, I, I bring up math because I'm not a great
student in math. I I can stumble through it.
(33:26):
Me neither. When my, when my youngest child,
Yeah, my, my youngest child was having trouble in algebra, it
was already like, like, I don't remember any of this.
I remember, you know, X + Y. But what is all this, you know?
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So I, I went out and found a curriculum based on the
curriculum that I used when I was in elementary school and use
that to help teach them math, help teach them algebra.
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And it worked. So I realized that there's ways
around making sure that your kids not failing in school
because ultimately that's, that's your responsibility as a
parent. Ultimately it's the kids
responsibility. But really, as a parent, you've
got to give them all the tools that they they can have access
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to so that they, you know, can understand what's going on in in
class, you know? And this is not a pejorative at
all. What I'm saying is actually a
compliment. This sounds similar to how ABC
Mouse was set up. Do you remember that?
I remember ABC mouse and it is kind of similar to that.
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There are some differences, but this is more family centered.
This is more the parents taking a a larger role and and also
communicating with the the school.
Because with this, with this hybrid homeschooling, it's not
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the burden isn't all on you as aparent.
The responsibility is there, just not the burden.
You have to depend on the schoolto a certain extent.
You have to depend on the teacher.
You have to work in partnership with the teacher that's just
(35:41):
checking in with him via e-mail.You know, the beginning of the
semester. You're shouting, outgoing, hey,
you know, I'm Brooke's dad. And if they have any trouble,
just let me know. Let me know how I can help you,
you know, how how I can help yousupport you in classroom.
If there's a concept that they're not getting, let me know
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because maybe I can help them out at home, you know, using
some other methods. And then for the classes that
just don't exist in regular, regular school, like financial
literacy classes, they don't have those or classes in black
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history that, you know, just aren't getting taught in a lot
of schools, in fact, getting erased from textbooks.
Then you find curriculum that will, that will teach those
things, that will address those things.
So really it's about I, I don't want to say Frankensteining a, a
(36:52):
curriculum, but it's customizingor adapting resources that are
out there and designing a customcurriculum for your child.
OK. And your system kind of
streamlines it for that. Yeah, definitely.
It streamlines it and it also adds in strategies, teaching
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strategies. It breaks down pedagogy so that
parents can feel confident enough to to teach their kids.
There's a lot. The, the big stigma out there is
the pushback that I used to get a lot is I'm not qualified to
(37:34):
teach my kids the school. I leave that up to the school.
I don't tell them how to do their job.
They don't tell me how to do my job and so on.
Parents don't think that they'requalified to home school because
they're not masters in whatever the subject is and they're not
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masters of education. And there's some truth to that
because teachers are professionals and they've gone
to school to learn how to be great teachers.
But take any child and a child'sbest teacher is their parent.
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Because what you don't know about the science of teaching
can be learned. But it's much harder to learn
how exactly your child learns best how they respond to things.
It's hard for a teacher to learnthat, but a parent knows it
innately. Let me ask you this.
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I think that's the that's the point to bring up.
How does a parent, let's say like a, let's say a mother works
a nine to five job. How does your program help that
parent who already has working this full shipping job, come
home and have the tools to help her her child with schoolwork
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and still get the things done that she needs to get done?
A lot of it is about prioritizing and time management
organization. When people first start
homeschooling, they tend to be really nervous when they're
starting out and they want to kind of either jump into it
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110%, let's do everything, let'sput everything on a little
calendar and this is how we're going to do it.
And then when one thing goes awry, the whole plan falls
apart. You have to be flexible enough
to adapt to the way that your child is learning, and they have
(39:53):
to basically adapt to the whole learning at home, you know,
theory or philosophy. But if you do it right, if you
adapt early on, you can make it so you're not spending all of
(40:14):
your time. Giving lectures to your to your
child. The the ideal thing would be to
spend maybe an hour a day or fewhours a couple of times a week
with your child in specific targeted sessions.
(40:36):
Let your child do whatever work that they need to do on those
other nights or other days and you go from there.
You don't there's parents think that their kids are at school
all day and they're learning that whole day.
(40:58):
They're not. No, they're only learning maybe
an hour, couple hours a day. If you take out all the BS of
getting to school, going from class to class, doing lunch
hour, the time between the end of school and the start of, you
(41:18):
know, soccer practice or what have you.
There's a lot of fooling around that goes on at school, that
socialization stuff, which is important, but it's not learning
time. You can compact learning time
into an hour or two a day. And when you think about it, and
this is kind of a, this is kind of a strong point in the in the
(41:42):
home school full time column, you could probably spend the
same time homeschooling your kidas you do, taking them to
school, making sure they're doing all of their school duties
and, and doing all that stuff and picking them up.
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And you know, the, IT could, it could balance out OK, you know,
but I, one of the reasons I designed the framework the way
it is to be so flexible is because I know in black and
brown households, it's not always a case of you got one
parent staying at home. You know, a lot of times it's
(42:26):
single parent, a lot of times it's both parents working full
time. There's not a lot of time,
there's not a lot of money. And at the end of the day,
there's not a lot of energy. But what this framework is
designed to do is to help you pick and choose what you can do
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and what you need to do. And you hit the ground running,
you go from there and your kids thrive.
OK, if there's one thing that someone can learn from your
book, what is that one thing youwant to learn?
Listen to your child. Listen to your student.
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In the book, I refer to your child and student
interchangeably. When you're focused on hybrid
homeschooling, you're thinking of your child as a student, but
they're both. But you need to listen to them
and let them guide, almost in a Montessori way.
(43:34):
Let them guide their learning. Let them tell you or show you
what they're interested in, and then you make sure that they can
connect their interests to the skills that they need to learn
because you can learn from anything.
I used to use when I was in Korea teaching English, I used
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movies to teach idioms and slang.
I remember this was when Jerry Maguire came out and.
Great movie. Yeah, We took the the film of
Jerry Maguire, the videotape when it came out of video.
And I would go to, I downloaded the script off the Internet and
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I would go to, back then, you know, you had to go to this
Internet Cafe and I would type up sections of the script and
point out like the idioms and slang.
And we would go through and watch scene by scene and go line
(44:45):
by line and talk about every line in that movie.
Every line. And Jerry Maguire, I can't do it
now, but I used to be able to watch that movie and quote the
entire movie because we so intensively studied that movie
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and the the the students were right on it.
That's dope. Because kids get interested in
what they're interested in. And, you know, you just have to
find a way to to connect to theywanted to see American movies.
They wanted to learn, you know, what does this expression mean?
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Why is this like this? Where does this come from?
You know, your kid is the same way.
You just have to find what it's going to be that's going to
interest them. And everything.
All these other subjects from STEM and math to media literacy,
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everything can be tied into the things that they're into,
whether it's video games, whether it's comics, you know,
television, whatever. Find a way to connect it to what
they're interested in, and it makes it a lot easier.
But the important thing, the most important thing is critical
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thinking. You've got to teach them
critical thinking. Teach them how to learn.
You've got to model that for them because if you teach them
how to learn, you can let them go and they can learn on their
own. I mean, when they, you know,
graduate and go out into the world, they can learn what they
(46:39):
need to know at a job or in college and so on.
That's the most important take away from being in middle school
and high school. If you learn how to learn and
how to think critically about the world around you, the
world's yours. That's what they're learning in
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private school. They're not, They're not
learning that in public school because it's not important to
the Department of Education for for kids to learn that.
They're not learning how to think critically because to, to
work in a factory or work in a field, you don't really need
those skills. You need to read a little bit,
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you need to know how to follow directions.
But all that other stuff, Leadership, no.
Critical thinking, no. Creativity.
No. We don't need you to think
outside the box. And that's why we're failing in
education compared to other countries in the world.
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That's why we've slipped so far behind them, and it's by design.
And frankly speaking, it's probably going to slip more.
Oh yeah, and. That's why it's a blessing we
have people like you who are putting these programs out to
help make our young minds smart and sharp.
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I appreciate you man. Man, thanks for having me, man.
It's it's been good. My pleasure.
Let them know to find you and let them know to get the book
in. That's the most important goal.
Let's sell some read books. You can find the book.
You can find the book. It's called Homeschool Remix.
You can find it on Amazon. You can find it at any
bookstore. So I would say don't go the easy
(48:26):
route and get it out of Amazon. Get it from a local bookstore,
get it from a black bookstore 'cause they can order it, they
can get it to you, support your local businesses, but also you
can find me on homeschoolremix.com and you can
connect with us at Homeschool Remix on Facebook and TikTok and
(48:52):
Instagram. Although I don't really post a
lot of stuff, but, you know, andthen I post other stuff under,
you know, under my real name, but then, you know, it's going
to be all political and inflammatory and.
That is, that is my bag, Sir. Oh man, thank you for coming on
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bro. Man, it's been great man.
Thanks for having me. You're welcome, man.
You're welcome. Back on it anytime you want to,
man. Thank you, Don.
And as always, Delvin Cox experience, we are out peace.
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