The Delvin Cox Experience Episode 372 Featuring Brent Pope

This week my guest on the podcast is the amazing ( He paid me to say that)Brent Pope. Host of the great show Brentfast and a multitude of televison shows that you most likely have seen him on. Make sure you check out his podcast and all of the shows he has been on.

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Thank you. Welcome to the Delvin Cox

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Experience, the podcast which each week I'm on a one man
mission to United Coast University.
I'm your host, Delvin Cox, and with me on this podcast, it's a
special guest, a man who doesn'tdeserve any introduction because
he just doesn't. He has been on countless of TV

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shows. You've seen him on everything
and you probably wish you didn'tsee him on it, but it's fine on
the show, on the experience. Returning after a long hiatus.
My boy Brett, how you doing, brother?
I'm good. Look, I don't know what I
expected other than the most bland, boring introduction I've
ever heard in my life. Thank you.

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Appreciate it as always. Let's start the podcast on the
555. That's to get the ball rolling.
All right. Are you ready?
I'm ready. Question #1 Brett, why haven't I
been on breakfast? Oh, that's a good question.
Breakfast is a show where I havefamous people that people like

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either famous or or people or people like them on the show.
Yes that that means I should be on there 1. 100.
Percent. You know what?
We we can make that happen. We can make it happen, yeah.
I'm I was a goddamn Grey Lantern.
Yeah, that's right. Maybe the worst Greenlander that

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was the story was. Ryan Reynolds.
No one's bragging about that. That was a good point.
Yeah, OK. With the second worst
Greenlander it was. It was Ryan Reynolds thing with
me. I don't know, man, I might have
to flip flop those. You might be better than Ryan
Reynolds Greenlander, you know? Yeah, Yeah.
That's not his fault. The script was terrible.
Script was terrible. You know, I watched the extended
cut of that movie thinking it would be better, and it was not

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better. So it's more stuff that was even
worse. Like they did, they cut the
right things out and it still was terrible.
They just made it longer. That doesn't terrible.
Wow, do you do you believe thoserumors that like they've
approached him with like rebooting another Green Lantern
movie with him? I heard that recently.

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I think it's possible. I don't think it's probable.
I don't think he's going to do it because like, why, you know?
What I mean? Once you're Deadpool, I'm not
doing any other superheroes. Yeah, I think the wisest thing
for him to do, even though it's a bad movie, would be like a
cameo, like in The Flash at the end of The Flash.
Spoilers for The Flash. Who cares?
You didn't see it? It wasn't a great movie anyway.

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It wasn't great, but it had somegood cameos, right that.
I mean, look, if you haven't seen it by this point, I mean,
that's on you, I guess. Like you get the Nicolas Cage?
That was a good one. Superman that.
Was a pretty cool. One, wasn't that the one that
had the Nicolas Cage Superman? Yes.
That was wild. That was supposed to be from the
Kevin Smith movie. Yeah, yeah.
That was one that I was like, oh, I thought I wanted to see

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that. Then when I saw, I was like, Oh
yeah, this would have been terrible.
Yeah, 100% been terrible. I'm trying to think who was it?
George Clooney. That was the big one I was
thinking about. Clooney as as.
Because at the end of the Flash movie, when spoilers for the
flag, when he shows back, when he comes back to his world,

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George Clooney is now the Batmanof the universe that.
Was funny. That was great.
That was a great one. All right.
Question to Brett Pope. All right, Out of all the guests
you've had on breakfast, what you've had a lot, Who do you
think has the worst breakfast taste?

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Oh, the worst breakfast taste. Interesting.
You know, I got to say, and I can't remember specifically what
I got, but like, probably Race to Canis, Race to Canis from who
would win? I mean, everything he eats is an
aberration. It's just that it's not an

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aberration. I wish it was an aberration that
it wasn't real. But like, I abhor the things
that he enjoys. I don't think he's into
breakfast burritos, which is themost.
That is weird. Yeah.
I don't really think he's into it.
Maybe he is. Maybe I'm just wrong and I'm
just choosing to remember him. But like, I feel like when we
talk about breakfast, we're justnot on the same page, you know?

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So trying to think there's anybody else who had really
weird. I mean, I've had, like, people
that are like, vegans and vegetarians, so it's like, not
what I would normally choose, but they've picked places where
it's still been pretty good. OK, Carl Tart.
Well, he wasn't terrible. Carl Tart is my buddy who's like
riding on SNL right now and he was on the show and like, didn't

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like this this chicken and waffles from a place that I
really like the the waffles. And but he was very detailed and
like, he did not like a double. What was it called?
Like a double, double something wash on the fried chicken.
You know, he wasn't into that. Yeah, to make a little crispy.
Yeah, yeah. But I still like that.
So I don't know people, people that don't like things that I

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think are delicious is weird to me.
But yeah, maybe maybe Ray, just because he's he's has such
strong opinions about things that you shouldn't have strong
opinions about. He does loud and wrong.
Loud and right. Yeah.
He's the first one to say like, well, just goes you're louder.
Doesn't mean you're right. And I was like, yeah, I know,
Ray. Yeah, we know this.
We know this you. You've proven this countless

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you've. Proven it.
Yeah, many times. All right, question 3.
And I think for once I have the perfect guest on to answer this
question because I'll ask peoplethis question countless of times
on the show. We've got many different
answers. So I'm going to ask you Brett
PO, because you're the breakfastexpert, OK?
All the cereal mascots get into one big brawl, like a Royal Roma

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style brawl. Who do you have winning?
Oh boy. Well, let's see.
I mean, Tony the tiger, he he honestly, he kind of seems like
the ray of mascots because he's real loud, you know, but he
doesn't look like he could fightdig him.
No, I mean, I think you might have to go with the I don't

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know. I hate to make it this simple,
but like the leprechaun from from from Lucky Charms, he's
magical. So he might he might be really
good. Is there any other really good
ones? If Grape Nuts, if Grape Nuts had
a mascot that's like the most rugged cereal that there is,
that would have to be, you know,if like somebody like Captain

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Caveman or something was a great, but he he would kick
everybody's butt. But it's hard to get.
Sugar smacks has the the bear. The bear.
Yeah, the. Bear you got the Cinnamon Toast
Crunch bakers. Or if you're a younger person,
yeah, that like cracked out Cinnamon Toast Crunch.
Woof. Whatever that is that they have
now. I.
Don't know what that is, dude, but it's weird.

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Yeah, it's. Weird.
And then you also have, I guess,raising.
Brad has the sun. Yeah.
Oh yeah, this yeah. But that I don't feel like
that's, I feel like that's almost like outside
interference, you know, or it's like just like an environmental
thing that's not going to win the.
Somebody also told me Captain Crunch, because he's a captain,

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he has a ship. Captain Crunch is cool.
What about any of the like, likethe, the, the, the Count
Chocula? I mean, he's a vampire made out
of chocolate. He's irresistible.
And then he, like, probably attacks you, you know?
Frank and Berry. Frank and Berry Boo.
Berry is a is a ghost but can't really do anything to you I

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guess. Who am I missing?
Any like big ones? I feel like we're missing 1.
I'm not trying to bring up like how about?
Snap, crackle and pop. I mean, I feel like they're
probably kind of magical too. They're like elves or something,
you know? I.
Think they are. Yeah.
They got some. They got some really good
mascots. I feel like you're a young man.

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Brett Pope like me? Yes.
Back in our day, we had like really good mascots and now
they're kind of like giving up. Toucan Sam.
Toucan Sam was good. Yeah, now I like the cereal
boxes like it's here's the here's Pikachu.
OK, who was the one that was like who steal the cereal?
Like was that the cookie crunch or something like that?

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Or was like a the cookie crook. Yeah, we had actual criminals on
our cereal box. Yeah, yeah, This guy, this guy
has a criminal record. He's probably pretty good.
Probably could run for president.
Oh wow. I mean, look, undoubtedly this
is true. For cookie Crook.

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For president? Oh wow.
Oh man, come on, I think. The last time I it's been so
long that I talked to you that the last time I talked to you
was like, when, what is it called?
Rap Snacks were just coming to LA.
Yes. I've had so many big inroads,
but you can buy them at places here now you know what I.
Mean they, they, they had a a time where at one point in time

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there were like a lot of them, yeah.
Like Rick Ross had like a a rap fan, like why does he have one?
And they just thought. Trina had Trina.
Had seven, yeah. Yeah.
Trina had like several like, andI used to see them everywhere at
one point. They kind of went away now.
They tell you the story last time about like how I discovered
them. I was in like Atlanta working on

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this Tyler Perry show and the Oval, which is, I can't believe
it's still on and has like spin offs and stuff, but it's a Tyler
Perry show, Tyler Perry show. They do Tyler Perry's huge.
He's a big dude. But anyway, I went, there's a
place by my hotel and I walked in.
It was just like a little mom and pop like bodega and they had
these things. What is this?

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And this dude told me like that every time it was at that time,
whenever I think Oklahoma State,Oklahoma City would come into
town, that Kevin Durant would just buy every one of them from
the entire store and like. That makes perfect sense.
Yeah. He looks like he eats wraps
snacks. All right, I have a question for
for you, Brett. That's going to be an
interesting one because since you brought it up, one, it's a

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two-part question. One, what is your go to snack to
get in a bodega? 2, what do you call a bodega?
And I asked this because I, I found this out recently,
different areas in the United States called bodegas different
things. Like for example, in Miami

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they're called Arab stores. That's.
Literally the name of them. That's literally.
What people call them. Wow, like.
Do you think there's a place like in the United States where
you know how, like in Texas, every soda is a Coke?
Yeah. Like I'm going to get a coke.
What type Doctor Pepper? So do you think there's a place

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where they're all like, hey, I'mgoing to go to the 711.
Which one The you know, just like every every place like that
is called 711. I'm.
I'm going to give your answer because yes I do because they
call every convenience store down here the Arab store even if
it's not run by Arabs. God that's it is so weird like.

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Wow, so there's no checking? Like hey, is this place run by
someone that has Arabian ties? Yes.
OK then. It's an Arab store.
No, they just calling it like. Why is?
That a thing? I mean, I feel like in
California, they just call it like a convenience store.
They definitely do not call it abodega.
And the only reason I've I've mentioned bodega is because I

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was just recently hanging out with people from New York.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, 'cause even 'cause I have
a few. I have a lot of New York
friends, actually. And when they come down here,
they call it, they call it a, a bodega.
Like that's not what we call it here, but it works.
To me, that sounds bougie. You know, it does.
Yeah. I think it's, maybe, I don't
know, it's like, is that from the Spanish language bodega?
It might be. I'm not sure.

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But like, to me it sounds too bougie and like convenience
store to me. It's just like, yeah, it's
whatever's convenient is there. You know what I mean?
But they're here. There's so many.
I mean, I bet you within a mile of my house I could find seven
or 87 elevens. That's a lot.

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Yeah, it's a lot. There's a lot of work.
Here because I want to say abouta good matter of fact, probably
the last time we talked, there weren't that many 7 elevens like
in my neighborhood. Now we're getting a lot of seven
Elevens and Wawas. We don't have Wawas at all.
Now let me ask you this because this is also something that's
different across the country. Are you 7 elevens ones that have

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gas or do not have gas? We have gas.
OK. It's like ours.
If I was going to say that all those seven or eight in the
mile, only one of them has gas. We used to didn't have gas, but
once they started popping up everywhere around here, all the
ones we have now have gas. That's wild.
Yeah. It's just I didn't grow up with
ones that had gas. And when I saw that the first

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time, I was like, what? It's like client flying too
close to the sun. I can get my snacks and gas in
the same place. We used to have 7-11.
Well, we didn't have that many 711.
We had more, we had more circle KS if anything.
Yeah, if. You know that.
Did you ask what my go to snack was and I didn't answer?
Yes, go to snack in a Boden. Look, I love the the oh God,

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what is it? It's those Fritos that with the
honey, whatever. And they're like the the coily
things. Oh, those are good.
Those are really good, whatever that is.
It's like honey honey BBQ. It's a honey BBQ with some kind
of Fritos. That's like a Corkscrew looks
like if you silly. And then I man, I'm, I love me
some Funyuns, dude. Funyuns.
I know that's the old person. I just remember that when my mom

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used to work, like late at night, she would always come
home with some Funyuns, you know?
Funyuns are good. Yeah.
I get the the they were $0.50 now they're like a dollar the
honey buns. Oh, the honey buns.
That's not my jam. But like, that's Hostess, right?
Hostess. Yeah.
Hostess. I'm big on those.
I love the cupcakes with the little Charlie Brown squiggle on
them. Oh, those are good too.

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Those are good and I love the the stupid fruit pies.
I know they taste like tastes nothing like real fruit or real
pie, but like. The Hostess fruit pies.
They do you remember the the thecomic strips they used to have
in there? Oh yeah, yeah.
The Marvel ones, they used to be, they used to show the whole
like a little comic story and that's where maybe you start
eating those. Really.

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Yes. Like Oh well Spider Man used to
slap you as well. Yeah, they used to have a lot of
like, oh, man, they, these guys tried to steal all the, the
snowballs in the store. Spider man whip, whip, you know,
oh. The 80s were great. 80s and 70s
were great. I wish we, you know, we're,

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we're nostalgia guys or not nostalgia.
We don't have nostalgia. We weren't around that time, but
we still know about it somehow. Yeah.
Just smart guys I guess. Pretty much smartest guys in the
room. That's what we are question #5
if you can bring back any show that you thought was prematurely

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cancelled and I'll have a littleregular for you.
Put yourself in the cast. What show are you bringing back?
I'll bring this up because I, I'm, I'm a big Dexter fan,
right? So when Dexter originally came
back, well, it's final season. I watched like every episode of

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it. And then like last week, like a
week or two ago. I mean, I know Dex is back
again. They have like two months.
Season. Did you like the new Dexter when
it came out? New blood, yeah.
I like the ending of it. I like the.
I like the villain, which is theIT was the IT was the same dude
that was the prison guard from Shawshank.

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Clancy. Clancy Brown.
Yeah, Clancy Brown. It's great.
Who also was a big superhero video guy too, right?
Clancy Brown. Oh yeah, he is.
Definitely is. Yeah, he's in everything.
I love that. I didn't love the entire show.
Yeah, I don't know. But the Rachel Dexter, man, I
was a big fan. I was too, but I found out that

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no, Dexter's still back. They just, they did like a, you
know, the prequel season series that's out now that I didn't
know nothing about and another sequel series that's coming out
later this year. Yeah, this is basically like
they're the one that's coming out now is like they're
basically Rambo first blood. Like with what with Dexter, you
know? Yeah, as I used to play, I used

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to play poker with, like I had some tournaments with David
Zias, who was like, what's his character name?
The guy that was like, hey, Dexter.
Hey, yes, Sir. You can't go out there.
You know that guy. The cop?
Yeah. The cop.
The cop, Yeah. I can't remember his.
Name Yeah, I I realize I have the same voice for him as I have
for my Luis Guzman. Dexter.

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Look, you're going to get in trouble, baby.
Hey, baby, you can't keep killing all these people, you
know? Imagine Louise Guzman playing
the voice of. That would that would be so.
Pretty, pretty amazing. What show would I that I would
want to put myself in? Oh man.

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And bring back you have to. Bring it back and bring back
that was that was cancelled too soon.
That's what that's that's what we're saying.
In your head it was count too soon.
OK, I'll give you an example. Crystal Storm was on here, let's

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say a week ago and she brought up Firefly.
OK, That's her go to Like, yeah,bring back Firefly.
Bring back Firefly. All right, OK, here's a show
that I watched that nobody else watched called Running Wild.
It was like Will Arnett's. It was, I believe.
What else was in it? Oh, it was.

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What's her name? I believe it was Felicity.
What's her name? That actor from Felicity, The
one that's on The Diplomat rightnow.
So basically, like Will Arnett was running his family's oil
company and he was terrible and didn't know anything about
money. And he has all these friends

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trying to, like, get him to, like, understand that he's, you
know, doesn't know anything about money.
And it's just a wild, wild show.But I guess you know what?
So I guess that's a good one. But like, I'm still such a huge
fan of Arrested Development. I feel like that show could have
gone on forever. And that would be a great one
for Brent Pope to be on, you know, as the the dumb detective.

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I don't know, maybe somebody accidentally gets murdered on
the show and I'm the dumb detective you.
Know what? I can see you on the rest of
development. Yeah.
That'll work perfectly actually.There's, I have regrets about
shows, you know, like I was likereally, really close about maybe
3-4 times of being on Brooklyn 99, which is a show that I just
like, really am jealous that I never got to be on now.

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That one's been awesome. Yeah, you'll.
Be back on this podcast a lot sooner then.
You mean with Love on Prime? The ROM com show is not Delva
Cox's favorite show. Oh man, the very diverse, the
most diverse ROM com on television.
That's not that's not Delva Cox's jam.
I like showing people get shot alot.

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Oh yeah, my son. Loves Brooklyn, how much His
favorite show if? We're talking about shows that
get shot. I mean, I would, you know, The
Wire could have continued forever for me, you know, and I
would love to be like just a regular cop on some show, too.
The Wire was like The Wire couldhave.
That was a great show. Yeah.

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I mean, there's just so many shows that that that get
cancelled because it's too smartfor people in my opinion, you
know, or, or whatever. It's just the IT just gets
cancelled. But yeah, Brooklyn 99 would be
real fun. It would have been fun if
Silicon Valley kept going because my character could have
come back because I was the the official tow truck driver, you

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know, not that they towed cars all the time on Silicon Valley,
but you know, when they need me,baby, I'm there.
You know I. Like that was really, that was a
really good call back too. Yeah, just one guy.
This this city only has one tow truck driver, this Brit Pole.
You know, what's funny is like I'll run into Jimmy O Yang, you
know, the Jimmy O Yang who played Jin Yang on the show.

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I'll run into him. He because he does like stand up
special stuff on Netflix. I'll run into he's a big Clipper
fan, so I'll run into him at Clipper games.
I mean, I'm kind of I'm I'm actually like I was a Kansas
City fan when I was real, real young and then their team got
stolen by Sacramento. So then I was like, well, I
loved Reggie Miller. So I was a Pacers fan.
So I'm still kind of a Pacers fan, but like, since I'm in LA,

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I, I like the Clippers over the Lakers.
You know, I love the Showtime Lakers.
Yeah, but he's always at those games.
And I always and I'm always like, hey, it's me.
You know the, well, you weren't in the scene, but I towed your
car on Silicon Valley. He's like, OK, cool.
Man, that's that's pretty cool that you've kind of done all

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these. You are one of those guys who's
kind of been around all these really cool events and things
with your career, man, You've got an amazing career.
I have like people every week are like I saw you on the show
and I'm like, oh, which ones? You're like, oh, you're playing
like a blue collar guys, man, you got to be way more specific
than that. Was I fixing an elevator?

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Was the toilet broken? Was I the City Council member in
a crappy town? Was I the guy running the deli
at the you know, I don't know, it just could be anything.
You know, it's just like, yeah, I'm one of those guys where I've
like been on probably like what 2530 TV shows, but like people
like I kind of recognized you, but then you also look like the
guy that just down the street then you never would think, you

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know the. I have a funny Brent Pope story
that's about that. Oh, man.
All right. I'm watching TV with my
girlfriend. Right?
OK, just randomly channel surfing and stuff like that and
I see you on TV. Like.
Oh, I say, oh shit, that's BrettPope.
Like, oh, you know, like, yeah, she said get the fuck out of

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here. Turn the.
Channel. I don't know what show was.
We were like flipping through the channels.
Wow, what was I doing? I don't know what the fuck you
were doing. Yeah, yeah.
You were fixing something, probably that's what you was.
It was one of those things wherewhere it was like a because we
were channel surfing kind of andI quickly stuff like that's

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great poop and she like so. It was the network show,
probably. Yes, it was a network shot you.
That cuts it down. That cuts down quite a bit
because I do a lot of the streaming and the FX shows.
Could have been, it could have been Rosewood with the Morris
Chestnut. I had a scene with Morris
Chestnut in there. That could have been it could
have been Rosewood or I wasn't crying after I ran over a
person, right? That was Station 19.

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Oh, if I was fixing an elevator,though, that could have been
that could have been like that Living biblically show I was or
Roseanne. I don't know.
Rosa was I was Roseanne yelling at me?
I don't know. I don't think was I yelling at
Roseanne. I don't.
I don't remember if Roseanne wasin the scene.
It wasn't Roseanne. OK, maybe it's probably, it's
probably me hanging out with the, you know, guy from the Boys
in the Hood. And where's Chestnut, you know?
It might have been Morris Chestnut.

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I think it was, but I think about it because that's probably
why I stopped. Yeah, that's was.
Chestnut Why does he still look young?
I look old as. Dude, dude doesn't age at I
know, you know what's crazy is that that's that's another crazy
thing that people, I guess I don't know if they realize or
don't realize it, but like it's just all about how you how old

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you look, because I feel like I look pretty good for how old I
actually am, which is blah, blah, blah.
But but I have when I had that on that with love show, I had
ATV son and he's like jacked andlooks real young and he plays my
son and I'm probably 12 years older than him.

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I don't and everyone's like, no,no, he looks like your son.
I was like, no, he looks. Looks like my younger brother
maybe? Brent, Brent, do not.
He looks young. You look old.
Yeah. But yeah, it's, it's it's so
weird how, like they could really make you sell you as any

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age, you know, by how they dressyou, what kind of makeup they
put on you and how good or bad of shape you're in, you know?
Yeah. That's a good point.
So Brett, let me ask you, how long have you been doing acting
now? Do you mean like, because far as
like TV shows, right, Probably about 10 years, right.

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Or if you're talking about was Idoing like stand up and sketch
comedy and all those things, because I we had a that's.
Why? You met Ray, right?
Yeah, yeah. I was doing this show at a place
called IO West, and his wife wasin this show, this sketch show
with me called Top Story Weekly.Those videos are all over
online. It was just like a bunch of

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celebrity impressions and stuff like that.
And and Ray was writing for the show and would like, like to
write stuff for me, you know, Sothat's kind of where I met him.
But yeah, what was the what was the question I was answering?
Oh, so I was doing, yeah, I was doing sketch comedy for probably

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about, you know, 10 years beforeand like, and I was doing like
groundlings classes and stuff. So I mean, I've been, I've been
doing acting stuff since high school, you know?
Like 20 years probably. Yeah.
I mean, as far as like in Hollywood, yeah, like 20 years.
Yeah, that's. That's pretty cool.
That's pretty cool that you've kind of made a living doing

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that. That's dope.
Yeah. Let let me ask you this because
Ray mentioned this a while back and I meant to have you all what
he he mentioned to me. You and Ray had a podcast
together that I never knew about.
We had a podcast together calledRaisin Brent.
Yes. Which is a really bad pun of
Raisin Bran. It's.
A great name. We came up with a great name

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while we were, I think, drinkingat the comedy club one night and
and then the next day neither one of us could remember what
that great name was. So we went with a really bad pun
for Raisin Bran. Yeah.
And by the way, I have to say this, I am pretty sure I'm
pretty confident about this. Ray.
He he totally stole one of my catch phrases and uses it all

(28:10):
the time on who would win, whichis yeah, like, because back
then, like his teams were all terrible.
Like the Detroit Lions were terrible.
They went like oh and 16 and I was like I.
Remember, I was. Like, oh, they're pretty good.
And I was like, Ray, be honest. Your team got their butt handed
to him all year and he uses that.
Does he not use that all the time?
All the time you feel. Like he stole that for me and I,

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he's welcome to have it, you know, I mean, it's, it's, it's
so 2012, but. Just remember this next time you
you and Josh on the show, just like I.
Maybe I'll just take a little point off.
Right. Look, get it in the hole
immediately. Yeah, tell him, hey, if you use,
if you steal Brad Pope's catch phrase again, get your butt

(28:53):
handed to you, you lose a point automatically.
Yeah. I like it.
Who knows, maybe it is Ray's catch phrase, but I remember it
being mine. Probably it's yours, Ray.
Ray has too many anyway. We actually would actually the
what would happen is we one of us started it and then we were
both saying we would be like reading about like, oh, did you
hear about this guy? He thought he was going to beat

(29:14):
Roger Federer and then and he got his and we would both say
handed. That was a fun show.
We did. It was basically just Ray and I
trolling each other the entire time and talking about sports,
you know? Same about Ray Alley.

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Ray Love Sports. Yeah, he does.
He does. Too bad here his team's never
will get in till this year, surprisingly.
Right, We did Ray and I made a video once where we were, well,
my friend was like, I'm going tomake a video of us doing all of
the, all of the activities that they do at the NFL combine,

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right. So it was like, so us doing it
like our vertical jump, our longjump, the 30 to 20 yard cone or
whatever it is, we had a field goal contest at the end.
Can you kick a field goal? I kicked during our competition.
I kicked a no one blocking of course.

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I kicked a 40 yard field goal. I am terrible to kick a field
goal. Just, but it was just like it
looked like 70s straight on because if I try to kick it,
it's not going straight at all. But if I kick it just like
straight on like they did like in the 70s, I could kick about a
40 yard field goal, Yeah. That's pretty impressive.
I can't kick a field goal of my life depending on it.
I didn't throw a football reallyfar.

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That is that I'm really good at.Really.
Did you play football in in likehigh school or anything?
I played basketball, played a little bit of football, but I
never went out for a team. But I played summer league
basketball and. Where, where?
Where was that? Miami, FL Miami Jackson Senior
High School. That's right.
I've only been to Miami once andthat was when I was in the
military. We cleaned up after was Andrew,

(31:03):
Hurricane Andrew and. That was pretty bad.
I can't be old enough to have done that anyway.
Yeah, Homestead, Homestead, Homestead.
Did you see The Monkees? No, I didn't.
That was the thing I know in Homestead doing Hurricane
Andrew, the monkeys and the metros, you got out.

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I, I, I heard about it, I didn'tsee it, no.
You can still drive, I think it's monkey jungle, correct?
You can still drive around that area and you'll still see
monkeys in that area. Really, that's a similar thing
that happened in LA with I it's,it's according to the legend
with these like they look like the, the, the parrots that you
see like on pirate shoulders where they get like the really

(31:46):
colorful, like light lime green on their head and stuff like
that. They're, they're all over the
place and they're in my neighborhood where I live.
And they're just like, I heard that they used to be in a like
an aviary and they got loose onetime and now there's all these
like wild parrots. And since they're like animals
that learn how to talk, but they're just like with each

(32:06):
other. They just sound like they're
murdering each other. Have you ever owned a pet print
Pope? I currently have two cats and
two dogs. OK.
I have a pet. Oh, really?
Nice. It is the worst pet I could
probably. Really.
Don't they live? I mean, depending on what kind

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of parrot, they live like 100 years or something, don't they?
Or eight years. Or yeah.
My grandmother gave me the parrot, and because she couldn't
take care of it, no more, and I've kept it ever since.
And this parrot one, I've told the story before, I'll tell you
because you've never heard it. The parrot curses like a sailor,
for one thing. Really.

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So you'll be talking to the parent parent to say fuck you
and what the hell. And it sounds like an old 80
year old black woman, so it makes me more funnier.
So it just picked up on people saying that like a like probably
consistently in the house. And then it was like, oh, this
is something that's cool to learn.
That's wild. So the parrot just often says

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cuss words to you and things like that and sometimes
occasionally bites people. Parrot has bitten.
Officially bitten everyone in the family.
When it bites, does it draw blood?
Oh yeah, my little cousin had togo to the hospital for it to get
stitches. The birds kind of freaked me
out, dude. Like we, well, I lived on a farm
when we were a kid. Those geese would chase you

(33:27):
around and those things are like.
Oh, it's like, yeah, you what? Where did you live out when you
was a kid? Nebraska.
Nebraska. Nebraska and Missouri, Yeah,
but. We're not living in.
Nebraska, yeah. Yeah, the birds are in.
Birds are not fun. Just say that.
No. And then the and the all the
dust when they flap their wings and all that and like.

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Because I don't know if you knowthis about Miami, there's a lot
of random depending on what areain Miami, you will see a lot of
random birds just walking the streets.
Like not like, not like you see like chickens and not like in
like, not like in like, like theslums or nothing like that.
Just like regular areas. Just in regular areas.
Because people, people own chickens and the chickens will

(34:10):
get out and they'll just be walking the streets.
Like you'll see a lot of chickens, you'll see a lot of
ducks and you'll see like some other some other couple other
birds and stuff like that, but you'll see a lot of chickens
just randomly in the streets. What about the They got those
flamingos? Or is that real in Miami?
You're OK to see a Flamingo. I used to see them a lot more

(34:33):
when I was younger. Yeah.
Not even you don't see them as much no more, but I saw some
what I say 2 weeks ago. Wow.
We have around here, like occasionally there's these like
Peacocks that are like, adopt A neighborhood and they're just
like, Oh yeah, Herbie's back around.
It's just like a Peacock that just hangs out in this
neighborhood. That's pretty cool.

(34:55):
Yeah, Peacocks seem like pretty cool birds.
They're interesting. There's a when we go to visit my
brother-in-law in around Phoenix, I think it's in
Glendale, there's this library that's just got, they have like
a 100 Peacocks that just like did this all around that
library. Do they attack?
No, no. That's cool, That's cool then.

(35:15):
It is cool and they have like the little baby Peacocks and.
That's pretty cool. It's interesting.
So we probably should talk aboutyour television career.
Oh my God, is there anything youcan talk about that we could
actually have a conversation about?

(35:35):
Because I know a lot of the stuff you do you can't
necessarily talk about. We could talk.
I mean, what do you want to talkabout?
You want to talk about like we can talk about Roseanne.
I remember. When you were talking about your
Roseanne. Yeah.
What was that like, especially during the time when it
happened? Yeah.

(35:56):
OK. So what was interesting about it
was that this happened kind of like right before Roseanne got
cancelled. Got kicked off her own show or.
Yeah, yeah, in fact. And that show lasted a while,
man. Like the Connors been on like
seven seasons an hour or something.
Yeah. So, well, you know, what sucked

(36:17):
about it for me in my mind was Ihad this character named God.
What was his name? Valente.
And you know, usually if you come on a show, you're like, oh,
I'm, I'm just like a gas stationattendant, OK?
I'm not coming back on this show, you know what I mean?
But if you're named like Valente, like, oh, they want
this guy to come back and be on the show.
Yeah. Right, cuz that Valente is just

(36:37):
a unless Valente is somebody I just don't know and they're
like, let's name it Valente after this guy.
We like Valente and also I was working at the grocery store
like Roseanne and your watch Shameless.
Yes. So Debbie from Shameless was
played the grant, one of the granddaughters on the show.
So it's a scene with those two basically with those two and the
other granddaughters. And Debbie has had anger issues

(37:01):
because her dad was not in the picture.
He's kind of not around enough. And so she smashed all these
cakes at the store while Roseanne wasn't watching.
Oh, and Sara Gilbert too, from. Everything.
From everything? Yeah.
From. From also Roseanne.
By the way, I got to meet her mom after the show, which like,
that means she's like the, she'salso the mom of like, Laura

(37:24):
Ingles Wilder from like, what was that Little House on the
Prairie? That's her sister.
Yeah, that's her other sister. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. So anyway, we're on this.
We're doing this thing where this has happened.
And then, like Roseanne was having a little bit of a problem
with with the lines. I don't know if they were, they

(37:44):
were like clunky to her or whatever it was.
And then like she starts trying to like cancel the scene that
we're in. She's like, she's like, yeah, I,
I don't do we need the scene? And I was like, I was like
thinking in my head, like calculating, like, OK, if they
cancel, I was like, they can't get rid of the scene because the
whole rest of the episode is about this thing happening, so
they can't do it right. And I was like, then again,

(38:07):
like, I mean, who knows? She could just have them try to
rewrite everything because the whole thing was about me
confronting herself. Like, Hey, your kids smashed all
these cakes. You got to pay for them.
And then at the end of the episode, she just she has to buy
all them. Then they have this like cake,
cake eat off at the end where they all just shove cakes in
their faces, you know, so that doesn't happen if they don't
never at the store at the beginning, you know, but she

(38:30):
just kept trying to cancel it. And I was like, Oh my God, I was
so nervous. You just going to cancel the
show? But canceled that scene.
But but they didn't. And she was nice to me.
She wasn't like, you know, I mean, I think to me, but I was
just like, wow, this is the the power that you hold as a creator
of a show. Let me ask you a question.
Yeah. If they cancel the scene, it's a

(38:51):
weird question we'll ask anyway.You still get paid, right?
I still would get paid for that day, right?
OK, but what you want is for for, so you get paid for the day
and then which is let's say it's$1000.
It's something like that, right?Somewhere 800 to $1000 spending
on when I did it and what network it's on, what my agent

(39:13):
negotiates. And then when you, when it airs
on for a network show, every time it airs, I think in prime
time, you get that payment again.
So yeah. So you really want it to be
like, oh, this to be on reruns and hopefully reruns are during
prime time. And then if it airs at different

(39:35):
times, like it's, it's little, it's like much less and it gets
a little smaller and smaller as the time goes by until
eventually you're getting like 3cents every time what Roseanne
airs. You know what?
I. Mean so that's that's really
interesting. So then essentially if she would
have got, if she would have cancelled the same, you would
have been kind of got a lot of. Money.

(39:56):
A lot of money, yeah. You know, probably like 10 grand
or something, I don't know. That is kind of correct when you
think, yeah. And then also like, nobody gets
to see me on the show, you know what I mean?
Like it doesn't. I can't put it on my reel for
anyone to watch. Yeah, I got it.
Look at. You might have to hit so, so
Speaking of losing money, like that character, you know, we

(40:19):
thought was going to come back. Maybe they'll be at the grocery
store. He'll come back a few times.
And then what happens is Roseanne said some kind of
incendiary comments that got herkind of cancelled and she got
they fired her off her show and then they turned into the
Connors and I never got to come back on the show.
That is crazy. Yeah, so that it could have cost
me. Who knows, Roseanne?

(40:40):
You know, fucked it up for everybody.
I know man. No, no.
The funniest thing about that isout of all the people who got
cancelled, she's the only one who didn't come back.
Yeah, like I said. Let's go back.
She's the one who likes Dan Cancel like everybody else's.
I'll say this about her, like she she definitely said stuff

(41:02):
that you just shouldn't be. You know, it's like, why are you
getting even if you think that, don't say it, you know, correct,
Like you're in the prime position of being a star on a
show and you know all that stuff.
So I I just I guess sometimes people feel like like I'm
untouchable right now and I can just say whatever for her.
I think it was also like, really, it was like she got in

(41:24):
the mindset of like, I'm going to own the Dems, you know what I
mean? And and that was what was
important to her instead of like, oh, I'm going to lose my
show. That was my show.
Which is crazy because that show, I remember when that show
was coming out that was like billed as her like comeback.
Yeah. That was the.
Number It was the number one show on television, dude, you

(41:45):
know that. Was going to be like a.
It was going to be a huge thing for.
And talking about like, OK, thisis how big that show was.
They have a live studio audienceright when we were shooting.
Lunel is in the audience. You know Lunel.
Yes, I love Lunel. Yeah, Lunel's in the audience,
and I worked with her on anotherproject for her, too.
She's hilarious, dude. She's great.

(42:05):
She's hilarious. She's well protected.
I'll say that. She's like, she does not come by
herself to these shows. She's cool though.
Linnell's. I mean, she's super, super
funny. She's in there.
You got like Wanda Sykes was writing on the show at that
time, so I got to meet Wanda Sykes.
I remember that too. Whitney Cummings was one of the,
I think, executive producers on the show.

(42:27):
So like she was, that was one ofmy favorite things.
Like, I show up on set and a lotof times they may not know who
you are, man. And but but when I walked into
that set, like Whitney comes like Brent Pope.
Oh, we're so happy you're here. And I was like, oh, wow, Whitney
Cummings actually knows who I am.
OK, that's cool. That's awesome.
That's one of my favorite things.
I did a show called Better Things with do you know Pam

(42:47):
Adlon, Pam Adlon, Pamela Adlon. I mean, she's just like the
coolest man. And she like she would she she
used to call me in on the show Better Things every season.
And one time I talked to the casting director, I was like,
yeah, Pam has me come in every season and the cast director is
like, yeah, Brent, she does haveyou come in every season a when
you're not right for the parts. And I was like, okay, salty.

(43:09):
I'll say I guess she likes me. Fuck you too.
Well, she said that to me and I was like, I was like, I know she
didn't mean it in a like a mean way, but she was just kind of
like, you know, Brent, you're not going to get this part, so I
don't know how you're coming andreading for this one.
I was like, hey, I didn't tell. I didn't call Pam saying like,
hey, have me coming for this part.
I don't. Know I'm going to get the part

(43:30):
of the Nigerian president of this country, yeah.
But she also was really cool. She knew my name on set.
She was absolutely the boss. I mean what's amazing about her
is that Better Things show, I don't know if you remember that
show started out being like Co executive produced by her and oh
God what's his name? He got cancelled for Louis CK.

(43:54):
Oh yeah. So that show could have easily
been cancelled if Pam wasn't strong enough and smart enough
to like keep the keep the thingsgoing.
You'd be like, we can still do this without him, you know?
And she did. And she's, I mean, I mean, guy
you're working with, like Bobby Hill, that's amazing, dude, you
know? Like that is kind of crazy.
How, how is it for you to maneuver through all this
situation where you're doing these shows, especially during

(44:16):
the time when you like, like I said, a lot of people were
getting cancelled and it, it was, I think people, people
understand, rightfully so, the people getting cancelled.
We understand the reason why this happened, but at the same
time, it's messing up your career in many ways.
I know, man, I know. It's like, I don't know.
There's no. That's the other side of it that
people don't see. Like, oh.

(44:37):
Yeah. You didn't do nothing wrong.
No, I know. But like, doesn't matter, you
know what I mean? It's all about like the money
and who's going to, oh, they're not going to watch this show if
this person's still on it. So we got to get rid of them.
And if there's collateral damage, you know, that's Brent
Pope. Sometimes it's it's everybody.
Sometimes, though, you know whatI mean?
Like sometimes you get incredibly unlucky like that.
Sometimes you get incredibly lucky.

(44:59):
Like I've, I've done a bunch of commercials, right?
The ones where I was like, you see me very prominently.
I shot one commercial. It was for, what was it?
Samsung Pay? Remember, Samsung Pay came out.
It was a big deal. Yeah.
Like what was it like 10 years ago maybe?
And so I had a commercial where it was like me and I was like a
guy that owned a food truck and it was basically like smart ass

(45:22):
food truck guy. And so we're shooting the
commercial and I'm doing, I'm being a smart ass to the guy.
Are you gonna pay with this? You know, OK, yeah, that's great
that you're paying with pennies.I love it, you know?
And then so and then as, as happens sometimes, like all of a
sudden this one of the ad guys comes up and it's like like
listening to the director and directs like, hey, how about we

(45:44):
try it where you're a little more like jovial about it.
You know, I'm like, jovial aboutthis guy.
Yeah. Just like you're happier.
You're not as mad about it. You know, I was like, OK, fine.
So we'll, so we'll, so then I'm doing it and they're like, and
then they're like even more jovial.
You're not mad at all. You love that he's paying with
pennies now. And I'm thinking like, this
doesn't make any sense. This commercial's funny because

(46:05):
I'm mad at the guy. So I do it.
And then and then at one point the director goes, look, if they
would have said they wanted a jovial food truck driver, I'm
not even hiring you, Brent. And I was like, I know, I know
that I'm not probably the jovialguy.
I I can be. But like, you know, So what
happens is it's so bad because they because it didn't make any

(46:28):
sense that that commercial like never aired, right?
But oh, it didn't air. It never aired that that form of
the commercial where I was like talking, Oh, I was a food truck
driver and that there was a bunch of Samsung paid
commercials that did. There's like five of them that
did air. But what happened was there was
a little insert shot of like me.You can kind of see like like

(46:50):
this much in my face, like just below my nose to under here.
You can't tell it's me. And I put my hand on the credit
card machine and they showed that little shot in two
different commercials. So I got paid for both of those
commercials. And they both played like, I
mean, I probably got $40,000 from that, from that commercial,
from a commercial that didn't help my career at all because
you couldn't see me, but I got the money.

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So sometimes you get the money but not the fame.
Sometimes you get the fame but not the money.
That is pretty cool they they SpongeBob you.
That's when you get lucky. That's the time when you get
lucky, you know? I don't.
I don't know if you watch SpongeBob or not.
When there was an episode where SpongeBob was supposed to be in
a custard Krusty Krab commercialand they like showed they like

(47:33):
showed his hand. Yeah, yeah.
I can't believe I was in the commercial.
Well, that means they showed my hand a part of my face and they
were like, I guess he's recognizable.
We got to pay him. Yeah, they showed your hand in
your face like it's for. Two commercials.
So I guess so instead of me being in one commercial, I was
in two commercials that I got paid for, you know?
Like here's $40,000 Britain Pope.

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And you know what's funny is like it just kept playing the I
was, I kept seeing this commercial, yes, Samsung Pay,
yes, yes, it was like for monthsit was on and then one day I
turned on the TV and there was anew Samsung Pay commercial with
Hannibal Burs and I was like, ah, it's all over.
It's. All over like fucking Hannibal.
Hey, come on Hannibal, you don'tcall me now.

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Yeah, I mean, I can't complain like $40,000 from.
That is dope, you know, Wow, man, that that's, that's kind of
amazing, Brett. It's, it's wild.
It's a wild business. And it's like, it's even Wilder
right now. Like it's in very, very flux.
There's a lot of flux right now with the, the industry.

(48:39):
I don't know what it's going to be, you know?
So how do you move with all thisflux and everything going on?
Like 25 is going to be an interesting year, man.
Have to be adaptable. I mean, I, I'm always working on
a lot of voice over stuff too. You, you got to write your own
stuff. Hopefully you'll write something
that's like, oh, this is a unique project that I could sell

(49:01):
to somebody. You just got to, you just got to
keep. Because if you just sit there
and wait for auditions, I mean, it's, it's, you're going to be
waiting a long time, you know? What are you writing?
What are you? What are you excited about your
writing? What's your passion?
OK, I'm writing a pilot right now about growing up like
Filipino in, in the Midwest, which was just like, it's kind
of like OK, in the, I guess here's the, the, the small

(49:24):
points of it are in the Midwest.I'm definitely not white.
And then if I go to the visit the Philippines, I'm definitely
not Filipino, you know what I mean?
So how do I, how do you deal with that, you know, and, and am
I not Filipino enough? And what does that even mean?
You know, I'm writing another pilot about when I was in the

(49:45):
Navy, you know, And yeah, it's when I was in the Navy.
And like, as soon as you're off work, I'm not I there's nothing
further from my mind than like defending the country.
You know, we're just like, because you were just you're
defending the country like you're working for, you know, on
a ship. And then like that eight hours
when you're off is like, it's almost like crazy.

(50:06):
It's almost like Severance was like, that's that's what, you
know, like Jerry Seinfeld said too, like I'm going to stay out
all night. That's tomorrow.
That's that's that's working guys.
Problem tomorrow. Right now it's going to have.
Fun. I imagine your Navy life was fun
and wild at the same. Time, it was wild.
It was wild. And yeah.

(50:27):
My brother was a Marine. Yeah.
Marines don't have as much fun. Oh.
No, no, no. The Marines have the most fun.
What are you talking about? Like when we're when we're in
Europe and like we get over there and somebody gets in
trouble and gets in a fight, in a bar fight, it's always the
Marine. It's always the Marine.
And then we all they're like, sorry, nobody gets to go out the
next week because this one Marine got in a fight.

(50:48):
It's always the Marines. So like the Marines have the
most fun I think. Not according to my president,
unless he doesn't want to tell me the stories.
Yeah, maybe. Maybe.
I mean. Well he he is a cop now, so if
someone starts it probably gets it OK.
Well, maybe that was like, how long did he stay in the in the
in the Navy or the Marines? Sorry, I'm sorry, I said it
right, the Navy, because on those paychecks, it still says

(51:09):
U.S. Navy.
Thank you. It's funny, he got in right at
the end of Desert Storm and got out right before 911.
We were talking about that the other day when because I went to
his house from New Year's and he's like, it's kind of crazy

(51:31):
that I miss both ones like by like like a month.
Yeah, yeah, that's, yeah. I was in I think just before
Desert Storm. Like was it Gulf Storm and then
Desert Storm? I don't remember I think.
It was Gulf Storm and Desert Storm.
Yeah, I think I was in between those two also.
You know, where we did get paid,like when we crossed certain

(51:51):
latitudes or longitudes, you would get paid like double, like
what they call, like, I don't know, hazard pay or something
like that. Yeah.
But I never really saw any like fighting other than like from
far away, you know? My, my brother always tell he's
seen more fighting now, yeah, asa cop in Miami than he's ever

(52:13):
seen. In military, yeah.
He, I don't think he even shot his gun at someone in the
military, but since he's been a cop, he's been in at least 10
shootouts. Wow.
At least. Well, you know, that reminds me
of this one. Like not everybody should be in

(52:34):
the military. Not everybody should like have
guns necessarily. Because I remember when we were
like, we would have to qualify on the M16, which I believe the
M16 holds 16 bullets, right? And so we would shoot the entire
thing at at a target on the flight deck.
And so there was a guy next to me was like, nobody thought it

(52:56):
was a good idea for him. Now he seemed like he's just
like, did not know what was going on.
Kind of I was like, man, what ishappening here?
So there's be like four or five guys with targets and somebody
shot, he shot at the targets andthey're like, they went over to
check his target and they're like, OK, you got 1111 on your
target. That's not bad. 11 out of 16.
And the dude next to him goes, he goes, well I got 21 on mine.

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This dude shot 5 bullets at the wrong target.
I was like man, this guy should not have gun dude.
He's going to. He's aiming at the wrong target,
the one that's not in front. Of him.
Oh man, that's crazy. I got two more funny questions

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for you. Oh, OK.
One who was the most interestingactor or actress you've met so
far? Interesting act, I know this
one. This is easy.
Ed O'Neill. Ed O'Neill al.
Bundy. Al Bundy, the the dad, the
grandpa from that dude. I worked with him one day on

(54:04):
this show called what was this like an Amazon show that was it
hosted by Kalpen called this giant something, just this big
machine that is the world economy or something like that.
It has a weird name. Very complete name.
Yeah, this giant beast, that is the world economy.
That's what it is, this giant beast.

(54:24):
And he was like play. He came in on his day off for
Modern Family and he was tellingus all these stories.
And what was funny about him too, is like he came in on his
day off. So he had this big monologue, a
lot of lines to say. So they gave him a teleprompter
so he didn't have to memorize the lines, you know, And I think
that's the deal he made. He's like, yeah, I'll come in if
he doesn't have to read. And so before we do it, and we

(54:46):
all have a bunch of lines, too. And he's like, he goes, you
know, here's the only thing I ask of you guys.
OK, Nobody forgets your lines. Like, he was so funny.
And I, you know, he was telling the stories about like, when he
tried out for the Steelers and was almost one of the Pittsburgh
Steelers back in the day. And I also was like.
Oh God, thing was real. Yeah, it's no, it's real.

(55:08):
And then he also was like, I'm like a like a like a really
experienced judo. He does judo, you know, with
that's when you wear the robes, right?
And you're like throwing people mostly.
Yeah, He's he's big at that. And I was just kind of like,
man, this dude is this is like the coolest dude I've ever met.
Like, almost like, man, I guess I wish this guy was my uncle,

(55:28):
you know, like. The whole time.
Interesting, because, yeah, whenhe was 30, he looked like he was
fifty. Yeah, that's right.
And now that he's like, older, he still kind of looks to say.
He still looks kind of, he stilllooks like 60 maybe.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he just like in this weird
like vortex of like, you know, the early age.
Yeah. Like Arne Anderson.

(55:50):
Arne Anderson's the same way famous wrestler Arne Anderson.
Oh yeah, Arne Anderson. They they have a brother too,
right? That was the Anderson brothers,
Yeah. Yeah, Arne Anderson looked 50
when he was 30. Yeah, well, the greatest.
Are you a big wrestling guy? Oh yeah, he's wrestling.
The greatest wrestler of all time, in my opinion.
Andy Kaufman, thank you. Inter gender champion that is

(56:12):
never defeated. Yeah, never.
I love that whole those storylines with him and Jerry,
the King Lawler and like. They were great.
So good, so good. And yeah.
I would honestly say any COVID might have been a trailblazer
for wrestling. Like, you look at all the people
who were like the celebrities who've had a wrestling matches

(56:35):
now, like Bad Bunny, Yeah, LoganPaul.
Yeah. Floyd Mayweather.
The list goes on. Andy Kaufman was kind of the
architect of that stuff. And, and the difference between
Andy Kaufman and the rest of them is, in my opinion, he made
people think it was real. You know what I mean?
He made people think that was real, you know, and maybe it
was, maybe they didn't really hate him, but it seems like

(56:55):
Jerry Lawler really hates him, you know, like.
Yeah, I, I think I, I, I read a couple of things on that.
Yeah. There was some real animosity
there, I think. For what?
Jerry Lawler said he didn't knowwhen Andy Kaufman was being
serious. Yeah.
Working him and that made it difficult for him.
Have you ever heard, Do you knowClassy Freddy Blassie is?

(57:17):
Oh yeah. OK, so do you ever see that
movie? There's an Andy Kaufman movie
called My Breakfast with Blassie.
Yes. And it's you seen that movie?
A. Long time ago, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's amazing.
It's like one of the first like like like it was a it was that
was a precursor like punked, youknow what I mean?
Like him taking somebody out forbreakfast and like, he sets up
all these weird things to happenwhile they're having breakfast.

(57:37):
And Freddy Blas, he's like, what, Andy, these guys really
hate you. Like what is happening, and it's
his, you know, you see Freddy Blas, he's like, this guy's just
a classy guy that doesn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Andy Coffin's a really interesting character.
He's my, my, I would say he's my, like, biggest comedic
influence. And part of that is just like,

(57:59):
to me sometimes I don't care if it's funny to anybody else.
You know what I mean? If it's funny to me, I think
it'll translate to other people,you know?
I get it. So you did you want like the Man
on the Moon movie? Love that.
Movie. I mean, it was a travesty that
Jim Carrey was not nominated foran Academy Award for that movie.
But they don't they don't nominate comedies for Academy
Awards, you know, for the lead actor.

(58:20):
Yeah. I mean, Golden Globes.
Did he win for? I think he won a Golden Globe.
I think he did win a Golden Globe for.
That I mean, he was, he was AndyKaufman.
He was Andy Kaufman, you know, Imean.
I if I remember correctly, I think there's stories about
about Jackie Lola decking him for real because of that.
Oh my God. Oh my God, I believe it.
Because he annoyed the heck out of the Cherry King.

(58:40):
Lola. Yeah.
I mean, nobody could play Andy Koppen like him, you know.
Yeah, since. We're on that subject.
I have an interesting question for you.
Yeah. What's the role that you've seen
somebody play, or that you've played for that matter?
That shouldn't have worked, but for some reason that it worked.

(59:02):
That I've seen someone else playthat worked.
Or you played well. I give a good example.
One role that I constantly go back to.
There's no way this role should have worked.
But for some reason, somehow, some way, this world works so
perfectly. It it, it, it, it astounds me.
Robert Downey Junior in Tropic Thunder.

(59:22):
Oh yeah, so good. It's it's, it's so fat in a role
that probably should offend a lot of people.
Yeah. Yeah, everybody I know who talks
about that movie loves that role.
Do you think that movie still plays today?
I think it does. I watched.
I do. People's sensibilities have
moved away and like, like, you shouldn't do some of this stuff.

(59:45):
But like, I thought it was done in such a smart way and it was
funny, you know what I mean? I showed people that movie about
a month ago and they people who've never seen it and they
enjoyed it a lot all. Right, Let me think something
that shouldn't have worked that worked.

(01:00:06):
I think at the time everyone thought like Bryan Cranston
doing Breaking Bad is like there's no way this should work.
The death of Malcolm in the Middle.
And it's like all of a sudden wefind out this dude is like just
one of the greatest dramatic actors.
Also, you know that's. A great one.
That's a really good one. Yeah.

(01:00:30):
Odenkirk, you know, playing Better Call Saul.
Do we think that's going to become its own TV show, you
know? I mean him and nobody.
Yeah. Yeah, I didn't think that would
work. And it's actually really good.
Yeah, they did it. Michael McKean, right?
Michael McKean was pretty great on that show.
That's the only real big name. The rest of them are like, kind

(01:00:50):
of, I mean, maybe you saw them, you didn't know their name.
Definitely. You know what I mean?
Rhea. Rhea was on the the places like
partner, the the blonde. She she was on that Whitney
show, but she played such a different character on that
show, you know, but man, that's a good that's a cool cast, dude.

(01:01:11):
I met like most I wasn't on thatshow, but I met them at like a
couple events. I'm like what a cool cast.
Vince Gillian. Pretty good.
Yeah, Oh man, all of the stuff is great.
You know, it's Gilligan. Like are you, are you, are you
listening? Look, Vince, give Brett Pope a
job. Thank you.

(01:01:31):
Any type of job. Look, I, I, you know, I would
love to play one of those dumb Disney dads for like 10 years.
Come on, let's do it. That is not a bad idea.
Yeah, you know what I mean? I'm, I'm about longevity too.
And then pick up other things along the way while I'm doing
that long job, you know? I've watched tons of Disney
shows and seen tons of Disney dads because of my kids.

(01:01:52):
You honestly can play one of those dads.
Yeah, of course. Yeah.
It's just that, you know, there's the, the other thing is
there's just so many, once you get like a little bit further up
and you're like doing kind of bigger parts and stuff,
everybody at the audition is good.
Almost everybody at the auditionis good, you know what I mean?
So then it's just like who's like slightly better for this

(01:02:13):
part than the other who looks like what this part should be?
You know, who hit that one line better?
You know, and it's just like canchange changed things for a long
time. Were you a fan of you were in
that show back in the was it the90s girlfriends?
Oh. I love girlfriends.
Yeah. OK, so girlfriends.
So my wife Tressa was was a acting major at Carnegie Mellon,

(01:02:35):
which is a big acting school. OK, people like Patrick Wilson,
Zach, what's his name that playsthat plays Spock.
It's from there. A lot of people anyway, she, she
got all the way to like the final two people for one of the
parts on girlfriends, you know? And so it's like you can get

(01:02:57):
really, really close. When you get really, really
close, you still got nothing, you know?
But she was like, it was weird too, because she was like, OK,
can you change? Can you straighten your hair?
Can you do this? Because you look too much like
Tracee Ellis Ross. And you're not supposed to be
related to Tracee Ellis Ross, you know?
Let me tell you, folks, about the brilliance of Brett Pope.
This is how he tells us he has ahot wife.

(01:03:20):
That's right, correct. My wife almost was the main cast
before girlfriends, so the totally known family.
Absolutely gorgeous. So here's what's crazy, the
person that books the part over my wife, they recast her after

(01:03:41):
the pilot. Like every place after the pilot
with I don't know what her name is her name India.
She she was the one I think so my skin with the like the with
the lightning tattoo or whatever.
Yeah, I think she got the part after they got rid of the person
from the pilot. So you like get all the way.
Tressa didn't get it and then that person that did get it
still didn't get it because. That's that's kind of crazy.

(01:04:03):
That's kind of wild. That's.
Why? It's like you have to celebrate
every little victory you get. Even if you get close to getting
something, you're like, I have to because they could go a
million ways, you know? That is a pretty cool cool 1
though. Yeah, girlfriends is the what do
they say? A coat code hit code classic.
Yeah, I think so. And how many people from that

(01:04:25):
show are like? Well, huge talk.
To him, was that, what's that Hanson?
What's his name Hanson? Was that he?
Was he on that show? I think so, yeah.
Yeah. Was that the one with or was
that living? I mix up girlfriends and living
singles sometimes because they were kind of like sister shows.
Very, very similar shows. Yeah, but yeah.

(01:04:47):
I'm looking it up real quick because they've had girlfriends
had I remember girlfriends had like an outstanding cast.
OK. Jill Marie Jones, Persia White
Golden. Bush Yeah, Persia's the one that
took over the part that Tressa Audis for the Yeah.
Yes, Tracy Ellis Ross, Reggie Haynes, People, if you're

(01:05:11):
listening to this, look up thesenames.
You're like, oh, I know all these people.
Right. Khalil Cain, who I've actually
met before. Oh, really?
Yes, I met him. I used to work at a Einstein
Bagels. When I was in, I want to say I

(01:05:33):
was in, I was right out, right out of.
I was still in college, went to the Einstein Bagels and he was
shooting a movie. People don't know who Khalil
Kane is. He was one of the main
characters in the movie Juice. Oh yeah, I remember.
Was with Tupac. That was a good movie.
Yeah, I love that movie. When I was younger and he used
to come in the Einstein bagels every day to get coffee.

(01:05:55):
Dang. To the point where he would come
in and just sit there and just talk to me.
I just say I got your coffee bro.
Just gladly. We'll just talk about movies and
stuff. I used to go to this place
called LA Fitness was Gym and it's like walk in like every day
you see tiny Lister in there, you know?
That is. Cool.
Yeah, Yeah. Devo, Devo, Devo coming.
Did you? Say that one.

(01:06:19):
No, no, I did not that. Would not have been a good idea.
That dude is huge. He's huge, yeah.
This has been this has been fun bro.
Yeah, I mean, look, I carried your throat.
I carried your show through it despite, you know what we all
know about Delvin's personality?It's.

(01:06:40):
Slap luster now. Now you got to have your own
breakfast. I mean, look, you're welcome on
breakfast. The problem is just like finding
time to do breakfast now, you know what I mean?
It's like. But yeah, let's, let's plan on
that. Let's.
What I'm going to do is I'm going to say come back on Brett
Pope and his career is going to just do a breakfast.

(01:07:02):
That's right. Well, look, I I'm looking
forward to doing an episode of Breakfast where I have to carry
the entire show. I mean, that sounds fun to me,
Delvin. That's a great idea.
We should, we should bring Ray on the really you guys.
Oh. Man, you know I did you listen
to the episode, the last episodeRay did on my show because he
actually interviewed me, which was wild.

(01:07:24):
I remember that. Such a weird thing, yeah.
It was we got to, we got to get Ray back on here, we got to get
you on Ray on here to talk abouty'all pout cash, y'all did.
Oh yeah. And they would get you, you Ray
and Chan on here. Oh.
My God, Chan, what a wild group.A wild group.
I I have some eclectic friends, I'll just say.

(01:07:45):
That I mean, you know, there's aproject that I can't talk about.
I worked on this project with James and James was like a big
wig on this project and I was like, it was it it you know,
James and I are friends, but like, we we sometimes you work
on a project and there's like, man, we didn't realize how
talented the other person was really.
You know what I mean? You're like, yeah, this person's
fine. And like, it's weird to have

(01:08:07):
that happen. You.
Know, I'm guessing this is this project that James keeps telling
me about that he wants to talk to me about.
He says sooner, we're done and we're going to talk about it.
Yeah, that's probably it, yeah. You know what?
Spoilers, People who listen to this show, I'm going to be
talking to James tomorrow. Yeah.
So I'm going to, I'm going to specifically ask him about that
project. Yeah, ask him about it.

(01:08:29):
He can't talk about it, but you can ask him.
I mean, he can't talk about it, I guess, you know, in public
about it, you know? Yeah, I'll drug them something
like that. Yeah.
So Brett, let these people know where to find you at bro.
You could find me mostly on Instagram at Scoops Pope.

(01:08:53):
I have my website, brentpope.com.
That's where you can find like if you want to see clips of me
on television, that's all on there. brentbrentpope.com is
also where you can find breakfast.
It's also brentfast.com. It's like breakfast but with my
name, Brent and fast like breakfast.
I'm having breakfast but with Brent.
And that's where Hollywood meetsgood food.

(01:09:14):
You usually have some kind of creative person on there and we
have breakfast somewhere. I mean, the problem is we would
have to have breakfast separately because you don't,
you're not in Los Angeles unlessyou're in Los Angeles one time.
We could do that though. We've done that before.
I'm planning well. James has asked me to come up to
Los Angeles several times, so I'm planning to come up to Los

(01:09:35):
Angeles this year. Well, when you're.
So when you're doing that, let'splan, let's try to plan a
breakfast for that time. I usually record on like a
weekend because it's when it's easy to get the studio that I go
to. That's good, yeah.
I'm going to Los Angeles this year.
I have to go. Nice.
Too many people. Keep asking me to go so I'll go
up. There come and then I can, we
can take you to all the food places.
We're like, well, we shouldn't eat there except, oh, Delvin's

(01:09:56):
now. We got to eat there, you know.
So I can stop eating Dunkin' Donuts?
Oh, man, Dunkin is like, yeah, Dunkin is fairly big here.
Oh, my dog doesn't like Dunkin' Donuts.
You hear that? Yeah.
Clearly like no. You shouldn't eat Dunkin.
Krispy Kreme was like kind of was gone and now made a
comeback. It's mostly like a bunch of mom

(01:10:17):
and pop donut places out here though you.
Know we got, we got Dunkin' Donuts, we got Krispy Kreme is
quite popular down here. Yeah, it's popular, but it seems
like it's weird now. It's in the grocery stores here,
you know what I mean? We.
Have that we have here in the grocery stores here too, but we
have like a Krispy Kreme that's like a one of our main streets
and when that light comes on, traffic comes.

(01:10:40):
Yeah, I always say they're like Christy Kreme is just fine.
And then every time I buy a Christy cream, it's like, ah
baby, I got to stop getting all the Donuts right here.
You know what we got to get? We got to get Brett Pope in
Miami. Oh yeah, that would be fun.
That is a good. Idea I wish I could book
something in Miami because I'd love to go back there that I
don't have a reason to really go.
That way I can take you to some places down here.

(01:11:01):
Yeah. Well, you know, my wife and I
also do a lot of escape rooms. That's one of the things we do.
But the most of the most of the highly acclaimed escape rooms
for whatever reason, are in Orlando.
So maybe because it's like the, the, it's maybe cheaper in
Orlando than Miami. Pope, I think you have.
I I Miami's 4 hours, 3 hours away from Orlando.

(01:11:22):
We may have a good idea of breadpop on our hands.
All right, all right. Bring your wife down.
I'll bring my people down. We can do an escape room.
I'm always in Orlando. Literally have you?
Done escape rooms? Do you like escape rooms?
Yeah, like dope. I've done like I haven't done
that. I've done like 3 or 4.
Yeah, there's some really good ones in Orlando.
The fact that like there's a place, I, I we do that does

(01:11:46):
tours where they'll, they'll curate an entire thing like a
city. And they have one in Orlando.
Because there's enough great rooms in Orlando to have, you
know, the some of like the top hundred 200 rooms in the world,
which there's like thousands andthousands of them in the world.
So like to have a few that are very, very good is, is a good
thing. So yeah.
And they also have in Orlando machine gun world.

(01:12:08):
What this is a. Real thing Brent Pope There is a
place in my in Orlando called Machine Gun World.
So what is that what I think it is?
Yes, it is. Oh man, they sell machine guns
and you can go there and shoot machine guns.
When you have to buy 1, you can't just like shoot it, you
have to buy one. You can.

(01:12:29):
You can rent one to shoot too. But the thing about it is,
whatever you think you're in your head, that machine gun
world looks like it's, yeah, 100% what it looks like.
A big, giant, gaudy building with the American flag all over
it. And machine guns.
Wow, wow, it's. A sight to see.

(01:12:49):
Orlando is not a real place. Wow, that's wild.
You know, Speaking of machine guns, you know, I had confirmed
for me from somebody who remained nameless.
We went to the Pentagon one timeand did a tour and they told us
that like they have a gold plated, I believe M16, That was

(01:13:12):
Saddam Hussein's. They took from Saddam Hussein's
place. They have it at the Pentagon.
Oh. That's cool.
Yeah. That was a real thing then.
It's a real thing, yeah. How about that?
It's wild, right? Why does it have to be gold
plated? No reason.
There's no reason for it, just. Just got it.

(01:13:34):
That doesn't seem like a good gun to have out like in war.
Yeah, like immediately like having AC3PO out in battle,
you're going to, you're going tosee that dude first, you know
the. First ones I'm going to shoot
guy with the giant golf of the glare.
The glare coming off that gun, that's like blinding me.
Let's get rid of that guy. We know who to shoot first now.
Yeah, Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(01:13:57):
Oh man, this has been a blast. Brit Pope.
Yeah, fun time, fun times. All right.
Thank you guys for listening. Delvicos Prince, we are out.
Peace.