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Welcome to the Delvin Cox experience, the podcast, which
each week I'm on a one man mission to you, not a coach to
diversity. I'm your host, Delvin Cox, who
went on the podcast, my boy and my brother Matt Mish from the
Nope, no, he's not from there anymore.
He he, he quit that show. Oh no, he's from the No, no, no,
not that show anymore. Matt, where the fuck are you
from now? Just Matt from Carolina now.
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Yeah, it's just Matt from MyrtleBeach now, I guess.
But it is he. He's still the undercover
brother, though. So pump your fist if you feel me
in the holler. If you hear me, I'm in the
motherfucking house. And the Delvin Cox experience
today. It's good to be back.
I've been on this show wait so many times.
And at the same time, I feel like what was the last time I
was here was that. It's been a while.
Was that the the the depression episodes like the sad ones?
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I think so, yeah. The last time, God, we heard
you, you want to kill yourself and I want to kill myself too.
We were very depressed, very sad.
Thank God we both are doing a lot better now.
I, I, I don't know about that. Am I enough?
I'm kidding. You fired your Co host so that's
a whole I. Didn't know such thing.
I didn't know such thing. He saw 2025 coming in, he saw
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what Target did. It was like, fuck that.
No, no more DIS. Yeah, I.
Was like project 2025 there? He saw, he saw that shit coming,
just like Target and all the rest.
Of these, I everybody, I, me, me, Dante, Mike and Hunter are
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all still cool. We, we talk like every other day
in our group chat. We're all brothers, man.
At the end of the day, a show has to come to an end.
And as much as I didn't want it to come to the end, I was
probably one of the maybe the only one that I didn't want it
to come to an end. When people can't make time,
they can't make time and all good things come to an end
eventually. So.
That's what Target told me to. Target told me the exact same
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thing, Like, hey, we're on my Black History shirts.
They're like, I don't know, all good things come together.
Yeah, so I just whitewashed the entire fucking history.
Of, you know, now we just have like, just TS fucking terrible
plain white T-shirts. Yeah, right.
No, but it, it, no, seriously, it, it, it's all love to them,
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bro. I love those.
Of course. They're all my brothers, men and
I, I, I hope maybe one day a week.
The thing that pisses me off themost, and it's not that I'm mad
at white people like, well, my people pissed me off quite a
bit, is that we didn't get to episode 100 before we said quit.
You know, that's the one thing Iwish we could have just held out
just a couple more weeks. Just record the episode.
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You can still do it. Just record to episode 1.
I didn't quit. Yeah, that's true.
Why not? Maybe, maybe there'll be a day
we're. Like OK, before we do the 55,
I'm gonna give you here's the idea.
OK, this is the easy one. Do Bro Migos special episodes
like maybe once every couple months?
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OK. Till you get to episode 100.
And then say fuck it. Didn't say fuck it.
Do we do with the what? What?
What was The One Show Jodi and Domingo were on?
I don't know. Oh, rubberneckers do what
rubberneckers said. 100 episodes.
Fuck it, we're done. Yeah, so just do like these
special episodes till you get to100 and I'm quite sure they
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won't mine because it's like once every what, two months?
You fuckers talk anyway, so it doesn't.
Matter, I, I, I, I don't see whythey wouldn't be opposed to that
because it's not like it's a obligation to, because I felt I,
when it, when it started to feellike an obligation, I think all
of us were kind of getting a little tired.
I mean, I was and I was probablythe one pain in the ass because
you know me. I like to be prepared and I like
to tell. Them we ain't got to prepare.
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We just come on here to have fun.
Bullshit. To get to 100, that should be
the goal. That's all.
That's that I, I, I, I've been meaning to say that to them and
I'm just, I, I've been waiting for the right time.
And I think, I think you're right.
I think I got it. We at least have to get to
episode 100 and then say fuck you guys, we're done.
Yeah, that's all you got to do. Just tell them you're the white
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man. Use your white privilege.
Well, just say no more guys. We're going to do this now
because I'm white and I said so.Correct.
That's how you do it. Just go walk in the room, say
you not see me. Let's get this done.
Look at my complexion like you can see me from a mile away.
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I shine. Guys, we have a deadline.
Then they'll just be fast. You'll be late, right?
Yeah, you know, come in like 2 hours late.
That's how that works because anytime you tell us you got a
deadline, like fuck that. That's that's your deadline.
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Oh man. So let's let's get the five for
five. As always, let's start a podcast
with the offered the five for five, five questions, 5 answers
to get the ball rolling. Matt, Are you ready?
Yes, I am ready. I'm always ready.
Question number one, right now, look around your room.
What is the most useless thing you own in your house right now?
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And yes, you can see that picture of a goddamn book in
your background. It's an anchor excuse.
Yes, anchor, are you? Are you a pirate?
Are you? Are you Popeye the.
Settlement. I mean, I do like spinach.
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I'm going to, I'm going to go with my alarm clock because that
thing's been broken forever and I don't use it.
I'm, I'm the, I'm the guy that like used to use an alarm clock
and now I just use my phone to wake me up in the morning.
So. So why do you why do you want an
alarm clock? This is the 80s I've I've had
Alexa. No, I don't actually.
I'm I'm a very old school individual dove and you should
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know this. I mean, I buy physical media for
music, I buy C DS, I buy physical copies of video games.
Like I I don't know why. I just like doing things old
school because it's it's what I like and what I'm used to and I
should throw this fucking thing away because it doesn't work
anymore, but I just keep it herefor.
Decoration. So why don't you have an Alexa
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in your house like an Amazon Echo device, stuff like that to
do all these things? Do you think the government's
listening to you? Let me, let me, let me explain
something to you because I'm andall my friends who think this,
you're not that interesting, butwhat the fuck you're doing, I
hate to point to you, you're notthat interesting.
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They don't care. I've actually never considered
that before. That you're not interested
enough to listen to Like Death not.
By, not by the feds anyway. All my friends like I don't want
Alexa Miles. I don't, I don't want, I don't
want them taking my data. I want the government watching
me like they don't care about you.
You're gonna make. $15,000 a year.
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They don't care about what you do with your daily life.
Listen, I can, I can understand why maybe like Jody or Mike or
Pepper or B Rob would would think that.
No, I wouldn't. I don't understand that at all.
It's really just because I'm broke.
It's honestly it's because I'm broke.
That's a good feeling. I I can understand if someone
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who's like, let's say, let's letme see my report.
Maybe a police officer. I have a police officer,
somebody who of, of a higher power who has someone to lose.
Not like, OK, I think, I think Icould be wired or somebody could
be listening to my call and stuff like that.
Could, you know, terminal fares or some shit like that.
Yeah. But if you work at Walmart,
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chances are someone's not listening to you.
Now here's the thing. If they were wiring my job they
might put me on a list at some point because it gets pretty
wild over there. I work in a gym by the way, in
case nobody knew. Well, do you work in that gym?
What? I probably shouldn't.
This is probably a joke I shouldmake on Patreon.
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Fuck it, we're here. We've already started crazy.
Do you work in that gym that allthe girls always do the videos
of them from their ass, from their ass doing the the lifting
and stuff like that. And then they all make the video
of somebody saying, oh, he was watching me.
And then Joey's phone comes out and debunked that video.
And then it becomes a whole thing over there in there for a
whole day. And then everybody forgets about
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the thing in the morning. They put out the same goddamn
video the next day. So it's funny, I've only ever
seen one tripod at the gym and that was like 2 weeks ago.
So I'm going to say no to that. I do not.
It's, it's a, it's a corporate style gym.
I won't get too much into into names, but because you know,
they might fucking find me. But.
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Question #2 how do you work at agym and you don't work out?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Listen, you make you assume
things, Dolphin. You make an ass out of you and
me, bro. Come on.
He's. Like he sit there practicing.
That's so good. Is that the actual second
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question? You just come.
Up with that. I work, I listen, I work out
every time. I get off early on my shifts bro
I I work out every. I mean, I may not look it, but
I'm trying it's I feel like I have some results.
I feel a little skinnier every every every few days and I'm
like notice I'm a damn, I look, look a little good today.
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Arms are coming out a little bitmore, shoulders are coming out
the. Trash.
Have you tried meth yet? I heard you get skinny real
quick there. Myrtle, they do.
They don't call it Dirty Myrtle for no reason.
I could. I could probably get something.
Yeah, that is pretty accurate. Yeah, I've been to yeah, North
and South Carolina. I love those places.
They're great. They're really great.
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I mean, I'm pretty sure, I don'tknow if they do meth, but I'm
pretty sure crack is a thing around here.
I I've seen, I see some people that come to the gym that are
homeless and they look like they're on crack.
So I'm just like, I want to, I would like to talk to their
supplier. Yeah, good idea.
Question #3. Wait before you say anything.
So this is what the 80s were like.
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Thanks, Ronald Reagan. Oh man, question #3 see, I
almost forgot what I was going to ask.
I remember what I was going to ask.
So, so just recently we, we wentthrough a terrible breakup.
John Cena broke up with us. How do you feel since this
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happened? How do you like pick up the
pieces since John Cena were on national TV and broke up with
the whole world? Fuck John Cena.
That's a good answer. That's a good answer.
And it's time. And you know what it is?
It's time because he broke up with us, bro.
I've hated John Cena since I started watching wrestling.
That was 2010, bro. Yeah.
He, he remembers, remember all that shit 'cause he came out.
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All the shit I've talked about, he was probably talking about me
as like, yeah, you ungrateful motherfuckers.
Like yeah, I'm ungrateful 'causeyou, you fucking suck.
Yeah, he's talking about you. Been the same fucking character
since I have since 2010 and evenbefore that so.
Yeah, and he's mad now. He's mad.
Listen. John Cena stops becoming cool
after like 2008. I fucking said what I said.
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There you go. It's your fault he's like this.
Yeah, you turn him heel. I'm fine, I'm fine with that.
I I now have a legitimate reasonto hate him now.
Before that was like. Oh, Cena's great.
What? Are you talking about like fuck
John Cena there? You go question #4 what was the
worst toy you've ever owned? The worst toy I ever owned.
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Yes, everybody always taught thebest toy, but what was the toy
like? Like a piece of shit.
Oh wow, that's a good question. I remember one year I got a
Gobot. Why do I feel like I know what
that is? 'Cause I'm quite sure you do.
Gobots were like Transformers for poor people.
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They were fucking terrible. They were like, they go.
I don't know if you see, I don'twant to get to get nerdy about
this shit, but I will for a second.
OK. Transformers and Gobots came out
around the same time. I think Gobots might have came
out a month before Transformers,but Gobots was fucking trash.
Wow. TV series about robot cars and
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shit like that. One was clearly superior and
that's the one that we still watch today.
Transformers. There's a Michael Bay movie
franchise on it, yes. Yes, the other one was fucking
Gobots. Well, the leader was like a
motorcycle and it was trash likethey like they didn't even
transform properly and it like the face was on the bottom of
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the motor. That was terrible.
I fucking hate gobox. You're terrible.
So you know what it is, I think I can answer that question now.
And this wasn't even because it was a bad toy, just it just
didn't fucking work. My uncle 1 Christmas got me a
one of those like remote controlhelicopters.
It was like an Apache helicopter, super detailed looks
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super cool. The one day I finally put it
together I tried charging the battery to see if it would work
and I would like fly to my own house for a second just to make
sure to never worked. So it just became a paperweight.
So the one purpose it had was completely useless to me.
It was just a big, somewhat metal like paperweight well.
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That sucks. Yeah, I was never.
I was never more disappointed inmy life.
Oh my God, I think I remember those.
Yes, that is horrible looking. Yes, those are Gobots.
The one on the right is the one I had got.
He's like a motorcycle or some shit like that.
It's awful trash. That was it.
That was the leader. Yeah.
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That looks hideous. That design is terrible.
Bro what the fuck is that shit? Yeah, that is not not a fun
franchise. How long?
How long did it last? Because if I heard.
That is a good question. I don't think long.
I'm going. To look it up right now.
Yeah, because if they came out at the same time, because the
Transformers, they came out in the 80s.
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But I feel like I remember hearing about Gobots at one
point in my life, or maybe it tried to make a return or
whatever. By then.
They've already made like a shitton of Transformers shows.
They the movies hadn't even comeout yet.
That was before Megan Fox. Yes, OK.
The the toys themselves was from83 to 87.
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OK. The cartoon series was, and let
me let me make this clear because this was the 80s and
then 80s cartoon shows had like 80 episodes per season.
It lasted for one year, from September 8th, 84 to September
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15th, 1985 had 65 episodes. Then why do I remember it?
That's OK. Go box became popular because
how bad it was. Oh, maybe that's it.
Yeah. People were like, this is not
Transformers, you don't want this.
Yeah, maybe that's why I, I, I, I know the name like you say the
name, and I like it. If something pops in my mind but
I don't know why I know it, that's the problem.
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Probably. Now I know.
Question #5 Matt, you know what viltromites are, correct?
Isn't that? I haven't.
So I haven't seen Invincible, but I know what it is.
I'm somewhat familiar with the whole thing.
Like, you know, think Mark, think type of shit, the memes of
that and all that. OK, a Viltromite comes to Earth.
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OK, to do what they're supposed to do, you know, they try to
destroy Earth. Yeah, destroy Earth and conquer
and all that. Yeah, basically Super Saiyans
for the DC Universe. Got it.
Yes. You got to give me five people
to take out this Viltrumite. Who are you giving me?
I. Don't know why I should mention
this name, but I'm going to go Brock Lesnar #1.
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OK. Can it be fictional or real?
It has to be real life people. No, it can be fictional people.
OK. For those who don't know,
Viltrumite are like super strong.
They're like basically like Superman type characters but
they kill. Yeah, Goku.
Totally killed. Yeah, I'm going to go Goku.
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OK. Man, Brokoku, Brock Lesnar, you
said five. That's that's a good question,
Superman. OK.
Professor X. OK, Wills, I like it.
And then I guess for the sake ofrounding out the duo, I might
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just throw Vegeta in there too. OK, I like that that is.
Interesting, because I it actually, I feel like four of
the five of them have the intention to kill and I feel
like that would take give us a bit of an edge.
Goku will probably be like try to, I want to say talk no jutsu
him to death, but he'll be like,he'll try to fight him and be
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like, hey, come back again so I can get stronger and and then.
He will be he he will be helpingthe Viltrimite.
Yeah. You want to send to me?
Sensamine. Fucking idiot.
Koku. Yeah, but obviously I think
broccoli is getting creamed first, but yeah.
Clearly, he's going to die. Yeah, I mean, he might not.
Even a little bit. He's going to like really die.
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He's going to RIP. They're going to RIP his head
off and RIP his jaw off and all that other stuff.
This man's going to kill him brutally.
If you give him like Super Saiyan or not even Super Saiyan,
if you give him like, you know, superhuman like powers, I think
he probably stands a chance. But like Hulk style, you know,
that's what I'm kind of leaning towards.
Like, give me like a fictional Brock Lesnar, like the Hulk.
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OK, I like that. Like the fictional Undertaker
that had the comic book. Yeah, like that.
I remember that a little bit. So man, how's it been going,
Matt? Man, you, you're no longer
podcast now anymore. You're kind of just.
I kind of just show up now. I just show up.
At the. People's door like, hey, can
you, can I podcast? Can I sit with you?
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You know, it's funny, you're thesecond of three I have this
week. People could still go out of
their way to ask me like, hey, you want to come on this show?
And I'm like, sure, fucking why not?
It's not like I don't, it's not like I don't like podcasting.
I think maybe even at a time I was getting a bit overwhelmed
because even when I was doing 2 shows, one show that we're not
going to mention and the other one and the Bromigos, I was
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still, I was getting pretty overwhelmed.
And then we when we just did Bromigos, it was still, I was
having more fun, but I was more like trying to focus on growing
the show and it stopped becomingfun because it wasn't seeing the
growth I was hoping it would get.
The socials were doing solid, especially TikTok.
They people hate us on TikTok. It was great.
It's like, as you can imagine, but I think at some point it was
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more like focusing on trying to grow and.
We just kind of like, I don't know, it didn't come, it didn't
turn out the way I at least hoped it would.
But like I said, this is the idea to try and reach episode
100 now, and I'll bring that to the boys and we'll see where we
go from there because I think ending off on 96 is a really
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fucking weird way to go out. Yeah, just go to a budget like I
said. Yeah, just get listen, I'll just
tell him. It's like, listen man, we don't
have to do this every fucking month.
I mean, we can we can do this like every couple of months if
you want. Like I just want to get to 100
and say fuck it Deuces you know?But.
Quarterly. Yeah, that's actually a good
idea. I like that.
That would be perfect because wecan get it, get it all done in
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the year. But I mean, as far as I guess
we'll cover the depression part because that was the last time
everybody heard me on the show matter.
Of fact, let's start with that How?
How are you feeling? I'm a little bit better.
That's great. At the time, things were not
good. Things proceeded to not be good
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for a long time. I don't know if you heard my
episode on my Buddy B Words podcast on filter discussions.
Yes, I did. OK, So that was where I went to
the hospital. I had to be taken to inpatient
crisis. And that wasn't the most
glamorous experience, but it helped me kind of get my mind.
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Right when I elaborate for people for the what happened,
you can give like a, a synopsis of it.
So for those who didn't listen, how do you check out the episode
by the way? Yeah, it was a very intense
discussion. It just got to, it got to the
point where like my the way I would describe it is everything
was going on with like moving from Jersey and leaving my
house. My mom was on edge, my dad was
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on edge, my whole family was on edge.
And because of that, it was kindof rubbing off on me.
Like I had to deal with people coming in and out of my house.
I had to deal with my mom like trying to constantly keep the
house and, or and having her stressed out about it.
And then like I was depressed because I was still trying to
find work to stay in the in the state.
I didn't want to leave. I still feel like I don't want
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to leave. I much rather be in Jersey
despite the cold. But I, I just reached the point
of no return at one point. And then in therapy one day I
was kind of like, I'm done, bro.I've I've hit fuck it, like I'm,
I'm done. So like we literally called the
hospital while I was in the middle of the therapy session.
And I don't think I've ever felt, I've never felt more
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defeated in that moment in my life because I had been to a
crisis center. Like, I don't know, it must have
been at least a dozen, a dozen years by that point, maybe a
little more. And I promised because it, and
it felt like prison that time. It felt like I was in prison
that that first time. And I said, I never want to
fucking go back. And I broke that promise to
myself. And I felt like so defeated that
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I had to, I felt so low that I had to go back to that prison.
I didn't have a choice. So that was it was a rough week,
but I ended up making some good friends out of it.
Surprisingly enough. I was probably I made friends
with like everybody. I made friends with a crip in
there. That's that's wild.
What that that's great. And I think a lot of things you
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said in this just now is like deep and kind of sad in a sense,
because it shows how our mental health system is.
Well, you said I had to go to a crisis center and it felt like
you were in prison. Like just just in, in, in my
mind, I'm, I'm thinking to myself, like, imagine you not
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committing a crime, not doing anything wrong, but going out
asking for help and feeling likeyou're being punished for asking
for help. It's a lie I take in.
I actually, it's funny even too,because I didn't feel like I was
actually getting anything out ofit until like the last two days
I was there. That's the crazy part.
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So like, I mean, I was going to all the groups and stuff and I
was like talking with people andseeing how and like, you know,
just chatting with everybody about life and stuff.
And it wasn't until like the last two days where I really
felt like I was learning and trying to learn some new coping
skills and they work for a little while and then things got
really bad again. A group of friends that I really
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at the time cared about no longer wanted to associate
themselves with me. So that was a that hurt a lot.
But I'm not going to get too much into that because it's just
a bunch of dirty laundry. And I'm.
Yeah, but it wasn't, it was something that bothers me and
still kind of bothers me becauseof.
However it was handled on both sides.
Unfortunately, things had to getworse.
And then from there, I had to force myself to be better
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because at that point I didn't have a choice.
I'd already lost people that I thought would ride or die with
me so that I would have ridden died for.
So I, I at that point, you had to force yourself to get better.
I, I like, I, that's, that's really what I did.
It took me several weeks to do that.
I almost had to go back to the hospital, but I was over a
couple weeks after that. I was like, I have to get
better. I, I, this is, this is too much
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at this point. It's gotten to the point where
it's affected a lot of friendships and relationships.
And of course there are other outside factors too, but that
was one of the main things. And from, from my point of view
anyway, and am I happy about it?No, I don't wear it with a badge
of honor or anything, although maybe I'm a little bit better
off for not being a part of thatgroup in the long run for
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reasons that I, again, I won't get into.
But it's like I said, I think there's things on both sides
that could have been handled better, especially for me.
And like I said, things had to get much worse before they got
better. And I'm, I'm better now.
But there are some days that canalways are a little rough.
Like just for instance, rememberwhen we talked about my grandma
when she had passed away and basically the whole reason I was
on that downward spiral? Yes.
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So that that two year anniversary was just this week.
I completely had forgotten aboutit until my sister posted
something on Instagram and then the rest of my day was ruined
and it was like just when I had gotten to work at 8:00.
Well, you know, that's that's kind of how life is, man I.
Can. Yeah, I know.
I can attest to that because youknow my, yeah, I know I dealt
with over the last year, you kind of get get these moments
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where it gets really dark and itgets and it gets so dark and
scary. You don't know how to cope with
that. I think a lot of people find
their own ways of dealing with it.
Some people people use meditation when I think it's
helpful for people. Some people find God.
I think that's also helpful. I always look like this.
Whatever way you used and you, everything you do to find your
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inner peace, I'm all for as longas you're not hurting anyone
else. And I think having inner peace
and finding that happiness is a very essential part of just like
excelling and advancing in life and learning kind of things.
Like, I'll give you a perfect example.
Like, you know, after my grandmother passed last year, I
was lost. I didn't know if I went to
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record in the MO. I I'm still like.
You were gone for a while, I remember.
Yeah, I still. And I, and I don't remember if
I'd ever checked up on you. Maybe I did once.
And you know, I was going through my own shit, so I
probably wasn't a good friend inthat regard.
But it's not about, it's not about being a good friend and
not, it's just, you know, peoplego through things and sometimes
I think in, in my opinion, I think it would be selfish of me
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to ask my friends to worry aboutme.
Yeah, when they have their own issues they're going through.
I think that's kind of like where I was getting at too with
my that other group of friends that I had who I've talked about
maybe on this show or other shows.
And I feel like for that, for me, that's where it kind of
gotten to where it's like, maybeI was getting so bad where I
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felt like I need somebody to care and that wasn't right.
And I don't know if I would callthat manipulation in a way, but
there was sometimes where I would reach that point where
it's like, does anybody actuallycare?
They just say that they care. You know, maybe it was like ways
of testing it. And I again, it's not something
I'm proud of by any means at all, but.
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You know, it's, it's kind of like that's just kind of a form
of depression in terms, you know, you go through things and
when you're going through that phase of depression, you don't
know, at least in my experience,you don't know what's real, you
don't know what's fake. You don't know if people are
being genuine with you. You don't know how to feel about
a lot of things. And I think that's kind of just
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a big thing that goes with it. And it's something that you have
to kind of learn to cope with and kind of deal with and find
within yourself, 'cause you're just in dark place.
And when you're in a dark place,everything seems bad.
Yeah. There's nothing people can tell
you to be like, well, you know, no, it's not that bad.
No. Oh yeah, not that bad to me.
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I felt like that for a while too.
And again, like it's I, I don't wear it with any badge of honor
by any means. If anything, it's more like AI
don't even want to say scarlet letter because I feel like
that's a bit too dramatic. But you know, it's just
something that weighs me down every now and again when it pops
in my head because it's such things that you wish you could
have worked on and it now it's something you'll never really
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get closure with either, you know?
Well, do you feel like you need closure with it?
For me, I am a person that I need.
I'm not saying I'm owed anything, just for the record,
I'm not owed anything. But I will say for my end, it
doesn't get settled unless I feel like there's closure for
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me. It's an open book that a chapter
that it's not going to close because I'm going to have
everybody's going to have this hatred and resentment for
whatever reason on either side. And then it's just going to stay
that way forever. And.
Let me give you this cat caveat.OK.
I would I would like to hear it.Some books don't need to be
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finished, some books don't need to be closed.
And sometimes things happen for a reason.
And sometimes not to get too spiritual, but as my mother and
my grandmother used to always say, sometimes God takes you out
of things because he knows it's not good for you.
So he'll take you out of it and put you in a better situation.
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And sometimes you got to and sometimes just in general, you
have to get away from situationsto make yourself better and to
advance and adapt for yourself. So while on the outside in the
in the of course, in the beginning, it may seem like this
is rough for you, this is hurting you.
This is not good in the long run.
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It helps you because you learn how to adapt.
You learn how to, you learn fromthe situation.
You become a better person from it.
I thought about that and you know, I you're right, that has
been a thought that pops into mymind every now or again.
As that caveat that you mentioned, maybe just how I
think sometimes it really just kind of depends on the day.
Also, let me give you this. Also, there's other caveat to
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that. Yeah, sometimes people in your
life only a season. That's I I've heard that as
well, and I've found agreement in that as well.
I. I can attest to that.
There are sometimes there are people in your life you should
notice from podcast. There are people that we talked,
used to talk to every day that we don't have us, we don't ever
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see again, we'll ever speak to again.
And it's and it's fine. We enjoyed them.
We loved them in the time we hadthem, but they are now going,
they're doing their thing and it's all good and dandy.
I'm not mad at them. It was just a season.
It was just a thing and you know, just it's all love.
But our time as friends, well, Iwas, I was as friends.
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Our time together, it just ended.
We just have to accept that. That makes sense.
I I agree with that as well. And I, and I will say this, I, I
think what is a more clearer thing to me is it's when you
have the people that no matter how much time pass, they're
always there. They're always going to be
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there. Look at us, right?
When was the last time I actually had a conversation with
you? Yeah, it's been a while.
It's been a while and that's part of it's my fault too.
I always, I, I blame myself for it a lot.
But like, I, I've been thinking about this a lot.
Like Brandon, people will pop inmy mind.
I'm just like I got to text them.
But that's the beautiful thing about life, when you can have a
person that you're cool with andyou don't talk to them for a
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couple months and you message them and there's no animosity
behind it. It's like it's all still all up.
You can still have the same conversation you're having.
Then it's no, oh, you haven't reached out to me, you know,
'cause it's not about that. That's what true friendship is.
You know, sometimes you can not talk to friends for a while and
you still have to still be cool.That's just how it is.
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Life, people, people, people understand that life happens and
situations happen and sometimes as a human being, sometimes we
realize right now be left alone and there's nothing against you
personally. I'm not saying you as in you,
but no, I know what you mean you, but sometimes just no, I
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need I need this time for me anda lot more people need to
understand that that happens with a lot of people.
Sometimes people just need to step away from things, whether
it's podcasting, whether it's social media.
That's a big part, like one of the biggest things of this past
year. I wonder why that I last year
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too but more so this year is thebig annex of people just leaving
Twitter. Well, I think there's a lot of
other reasons for that as well. But oh I I know the reasons.
But. I know the reason.
I know the reason, but it's really interesting watching
people that I used to talk to every day on Twitter, because
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Twitter was my platform, just leave.
You haven't really even been on outside of the group chats
maybe? Yeah, and you know, these people
I used to have comments with every day and no no longer there
at all. And it's like, well, what
happened to these people? And then you start seeing a pop
up on things like blue sky. Or.
Instagram and and it's cool, butit's not the same because it's
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like it's just different, but it's just and I and I get the
political climate plays a big part in that and how, and this
goes back to not to try to make this episode political.
Now this is this is involved in a fun episode, but it goes back
to how when rich people use things that we consider fun as
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their own personal tool, it fucks everything up.
And they fucking ruin it. They fucking ruin it.
Twitter. Twitter.
Was so much fun back when I was in high school and like college.
It's like the joke where everybody always says, you know,
a song is pop, like a black songis really popular when white
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people are singing and messing it up.
And it's no longer cool anymore because they're singing it like
not like us. You see all the white people
singing, like all the commercials and people like
doing it in like TV shows. Oh, not like us and making the
jokes and stuff. And what is the guy name?
Not Jay Leno. The Conan O'Brien's making a
joke about, like, being a pedophile.
Like, all right, this is over. Oh yeah, the the thing on I saw
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that just recently from the. Oscars like, yeah, this, this is
no longer cool. You guys have whitened this up
and made it no longer cool. Still one of the greatest diss
tracks of the modern era though.It is, yeah.
It it definitely is. It, it destroyed the biggest
rapper in the world's career, essentially.
Well, he's he's helping it, but that's a whole other.
Story. Oh don't don't don't say that
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too loud. The one particular light skin
I'm friends with is going to overhear and start defending him
and Dick riding. Oh, that's fine, but you know,
it is what it is. Yep, the truth hurts.
I grew up in the the Jay-Z Nas era.
People still want to admit that Jay-Z lost that battle like.
I'm not even too adept with thatone.
I I'm more I knew I know of it, but I don't know a lot about it.
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I think when it comes to rap battles, the most important
thing to real for any rapper to realize is if you catch AL, just
move on. Just move on.
It's OK. You can move on and have a full
career and nobody's going to look better, look bad at you or
worse for worse for wear on it. It's when you hang on to it and
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you dwell on it with people likealright bro, this is just a bit
much. I mean, did Mariah Carey's
career get ruined because Eminemdissed her?
No. Not even did Gerol still have a
pretty solid career after the beef with Eminem?
No, no. OK, then he's a bad example.
But but his goes back to the thing that I was talking about
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earlier, what I just mentioned. He dwelt on it too much.
When it becomes when it overtakes your actual talent,
that's when it's like, OK, bro, you got to you fucking up now.
We want you to be Ja Rule. We want you to make the hits.
Because I, I know people like the the trash Ja Rule and I know
that became a thing, but I stillgo out the shows and stuff and
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when like those Ja Rule songs come on, I see a lot of people
bobbing their heads and enjoyingthe songs.
So it's not like people just allof a sudden, it's not like you
don't like Ja Rule. You just didn't like that
moment. You just didn't like it when it
came to $0.50. But so we made hits, yeah.
What's won the $0.50 hate recently?
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I've seen that too. That's just, that's just how
cookie crumbles my friend sometimes.
Like we're acting like Get Richard Die Trying was one of
the greatest albums of all time bro.
It very much was. It legit was, but you know,
that's how the cookie crumbles sometimes.
So that's why it's kind of crazywhen you hate on somebody else,
because you know that hate traincan easily turn around and come
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against you. It's just how it is.
Don't get to all of us, right? Eventually I can ask you, So
Matt, what is your next plan man?
What else you got planned now? I have, I don't know when this
is going to get released so because it's coming up very soon
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actually, but I got this radio thon I'm going to be a part of.
I was going to ask you about your radio career, man.
Let's get into that. OK.
So I think I'm, I'm pretty sure you knew I was doing a, a little
stint in the radio back last year around this time, right?
Oh yeah, I listen to the show. Oh, what do you think about it?
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And he and he good. I'm glad I I did that until my
birthday, which was in June, andthen I had moved like two months
later in August, right. So I naturally that was going to
come to an end that I thought that maybe that was the best
natural conclusion to it. And what better way to do it
than on my birthday that it was just again, the cookie crumbled
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perfectly that time. Recently, a few months ago, I
was contacted by my old boss from the college radio station,
which is one O 7 seven, the bronc at Rider University.
Hey, we're doing a radiothon. We want to get alumni to come in
and do a show and help raise money for the kids so that they
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can have better opportunities, better equipment, better
broadcasting systems, cause all that stuff cost money.
Believe it or not, I, I, the second he said that I was like,
I'm in, I'm in. I get to bring the show back for
one day, I'm in. So we've been, well, have they
been prepping it for months now?My job only really has to come
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in within the next week because I'm going to be trying to help
raise some money through the outlets I have down here as well
as online. And the Michelin Man experience
is going to come back for one minute, one day only on March
29th, Saturday at 10:00 AM to 11:00 AM Eastern Standard Time.
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Oh, that is perfect because thisepisode is going to come out
right before then, so. Perfect.
That's actually. If you are listening to this
episode right now, give the day to get Matt.
Oh, so the Michelin Man experience?
It's going to be 10 AM Eastern Standard Time.
We're going to be helping raise money for one O 7 seven, the
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bronc and all the kids that I even worked with when I was
there and help mentor and help future people that come into the
station. I think what's what I'm the most
passionate about with this wholething is because I want to help
the kids because they not they did.
They did something to help me when I was really there to
mentor them. I they helped me a lot to learn
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some new things and it was really great.
So it's kind of like a give and take relationship.
I think with the radio industry and broadcasting in general,
it's become so corporatized thatI think a lot of people are not
being their true selves. And I'll give you an example of
this. You know what pissed me off a
few days ago? I heard a guy on a radio station
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I listen to down here and I can tell that these shows are either
pre recorded or whatever becauseyou can just tell we I have an
ear for it. So like you can tell when shows
sound like they're being pre recorded because it doesn't feel
natural. It feels very forced.
A couple weeks ago he played something about he asked the
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question to listeners. He was like, hey, have you ever
sang the wrong songs to a wrong words to a song?
Like thinking it was something else?
And when that came out I was like, OK, that's, that's a great
question. I've done that all the time.
You know what happened like 2 days ago?
I hear the exact same segment said the exact same way.
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And I think it was even they even used the exact same caller
that they took for that segment.OK, so I.
Swear on my mother. Everything about that sounded so
familiar to me. It was like too familiar.
It was Deja. Was it a repeat of the episode?
That was not explicitly said. Now here's where I here's where
I get into a little bit. When I there are certain shows
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that I know when they do repeat episodes, they broadcast like,
hey, this is let's take a 93.3 WMMR in Philly.
When Preston and Steve, which isthe morning show does a repeat
or repeat segments. It's like, hey, this is the best
of Preston and Steve. I'm so and so here's a segment
from this from this time period.Cool.
I know what I'm in for. I'm not going to be bothered by
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that when it's not explicitly mentioned and it's it sounds
like deja vu that I have a problem with.
And that's where I get into the whole corporatization of things
because it's an I Heart media station.
Oh yeah. I heart, I heart has for me and
all the stations I've tried to either apply to or because I've
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tried I, I, I don't work in the gym because I want to.
I work in the gym because I haveto.
I couldn't find any radio jobs down here.
Everything in this area is corporatized or or mostly by
iheart. And judging by what I've
listened to down here, it's the soul is completely sucked.
The music is all right because the music's always going to be
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what I'm really there for anyway.
But the personalities are reallykeep me engaged and that's why I
liked the northern radio stations because at least they
had personality to them. And I actually worked with some
of these people and they were great people.
So like you can also have that personal connection with it too.
This is just, this is miserable.It all, it's all, it's just
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feels like corporate garbage. That's all I can really classify
it as. So the whole point of the radio
of Radiothon is to help raise $10,000 so that these kids can
help get these opportunities andnetworking with people in the
industry. And hopefully they can make the
industry for the better or make it better if I can't do it and
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get in there myself because Lordknows I fucking want to.
But if they can, that's even better because I don't want to
see an industry I love in radio and broadcasting continue to
suffer from stuff like this. Because I feel like that's why
people don't listen to the radioanymore.
They can tell that it's like garbage.
They can tell that the music, a lot of the music is also like
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forced because of what's hot right now and what record
companies are playing. We all know that.
It's it's just that's kind of why I started the Michelin Man
experience to begin with when I was in college because it was a
mix of everything. Bro, I had metal, I had rock, I
had old school hip hop and everything.
Bro, I played. I don't even know the song
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existed until I was until like last year.
Was it 90? Was it 93 till Infinity?
I forgot. Oh yeah, great song.
I had no idea that song existed.I played it on the show 1 time
'cause I was trying to find music for a block of things that
they were doing that weekend. And I was like, I found this
song is like a top old school rap song and I'm like oh this
sounds cool I might use this on the show.
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And I did same thing with passing me by.
I don't know why I I can't remember the names of the groups
cause I've only heard it a handful. 932 Infinity is souls a
Mr. Souls and Bishop, Yes, you're right, you're right.
And who was? Passed by.
Far side. That was far.
Oh yeah, you're right. I get those two confused.
So it's like I just find obscureshit and I put it on there.
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Like there's metal core stuff I've started adding since I've
got into into that genre, which I actually have planned for the
show. There's a metal core song that
just got released recently that I'm planning to do.
That's what I like about the show.
It's a mix of everything. It's stuff that you'll never
hear in a traditional radio market, but you can only get it
or one of the only places you can get it is here on the Bronc
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for that one, one hour of that one day.
I like it. By the way, yeah, and, and, and
the goal is, like I said, help raise $10,000.
Every show is expected to raise at least 150, so if anybody
wants to donate, you do not haveto.
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But if you would like to supportme personally, if you enjoy the
time I have on this show every time that Dovan has me on, or if
you enjoy any of my other projects and you want to support
it, don't do it for me. Do it for the The Future of
Broadcasting Pro because that's really what I'm doing it for.
If I can't make the changes, I hope someone down the line will,
and I hope it comes from the bronc so.
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Perfect. I love it.
All right, Matt, let them know to find you and let them know
where to find this show at. All right, once again, well, if
you want to follow me, I'm on real mat 0626.
I'll be posting a video about the whole radio font thing very
soon. You can find me on my streaming
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platforms for gaming that's Edge0626 or Edge 0626 YT on Twitter
as well. I'm doing a lot of live stream
gaming to make a little bit of money side money and I enjoy it
a lot. It's definitely been a part of
my healing process for sure because even if nobody's
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watching, I'm still bullshittingwith my friends playing games.
So if you guys want to check that out too.
I greatly appreciate it and whatever support you want to
give me it when whatever capacity is greatly appreciated
either way. Instagram if you want to follow
me on their real Matt Mish Mysh TikTok edge 0626 YT again, the
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YouTube channel is edge 0626 andI'll reiterate one last time.
Michelin man experience 10:00 AMEastern Standard Time for one O
7 seven the Bronx first ever a radiothon.
Lots of lots of alumni are goingto be coming back.
A lot of the current students are going to be doing their own
shows. It's a whole weekend.
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It's going to be, I have the entire weekend book, so I'm
going to be there. So come say, you know, come
listen to the show, listen to myshow, listen to everybody else's
shows and donate if you can, which would be really
appreciated, so. Perfect.
Thanks for coming on that. Thank you for having me my
friend, it's always good to see you.
Love you brother. Likewise love you too bro.
As always Devin Cox experience we are out.
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Peace.