The Delvin Cox Experience Episode 386 Featuring Axel from the DVR Podcast Network

This week, my guest on the pod is Axel from the DVR Podcast network. We talk about movies, entertainment, and all of the fun stuff.

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Welcome to the Dalvin Cox experience, the podcast which
each week I am on a one man mission to you now that close to
diversity. I'm your host, Dalvin Cox, and
with me on the podcast as a special guest, Someone who
honestly should have been on this podcast a long time ago, I
want to say probably years ago at this point, he should have
been on this podcast, but I don't know what happened.

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It just never happened. Host of the DVR Podcast Network,
my man Axel Fall. How you doing brother?
I'm doing great. Thank you so much for having me.
Yeah, I should have been on a long time ago.
And I I listened. I love your show.
This is weird for me too becauseI'm always the host so if I'm
just going to try to I have to be a little bit more laid back.

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Yeah, be laid back, relax, you know, good time.
None the world pop. Yeah, usually when I'm doing a
podcast, I'm thinking ahead, right?
You know how it is where we're going, where we're now.
I'm just, I'm letting you take me for a ride.
Yeah, for for once you can relax, sing out in the world
about we ain't talking about Trump and new shit like that.
So yeah, this ain't, this ain't one of those episodes You can
relax and not get your blood pressure up this episode.

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I'm up for it, whatever you want.
I'll I'm here to talk. Definitely, as always, like
start the podcast off with the five for five, five questions, 5
minutes to get the ball on it. Axel, Are you ready?
I am ready. Question #1 all the serial
mascots have one big bra. Who do you got winning?

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This is a tough one because as an Irishman, I want to pick the
Lucky Charms leprechaun that he can use some kind of magic, you
know what I'm saying? To like, I don't know, put them
all to sleep or hypnotize them. But I have to be honest, I just
think Tony the Tiger would kick ass, man.
He's Tony the Tiger. You know what I'm?

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Saying he's a tiger, that's true.
That's. The fairpoint?
He's a tiger. And he has human attributes too.
So it's kind of like, yes, yes, he has a headband like I have on
today too. Yes, he has a headband.
Yeah. I would have to go with Tony the
Tiger though it would behoove him to team up with the

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Leprechaun from Lucky Charms just to get that extra magic in
case he needs it. That's a good idea.
That's that's pretty good. I kind of like that idea.
All right, thank you. Question #2 Axel, this is a fun
one. I don't think I've ever asked
anybody this one. So let's be an exclusive
question for you. What cartoon character do you

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think you identify with the most?
A cartoon character, you know, Ihave to say the, I guess the one
I, I, I have identified the mostwith in my life, right, is, and

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it's kind of a cartoon character, but it's Rick Hunter
from Robotech. That was my man.
Yeah, that is a cartoon character, right?
It's anime, but that's cartoon. So when I was a kid, I was
obsessed with Robitech. I am still obsessed with it.
I can walk over into my kind of Lego slash library hangout room.

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I've got all the Robitech books.And that was my guy when I He
was just kind of brave and he just wanted adventure.
He wanted to get out there and see the world.
But also he was a lover, he was always in love with Lin Min May.
If you remember from Robitech and of.
Course, you are interestingly a lover.

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Yeah, I am a lover. That's what I so I, you know, I
have to say. Rick Hunter from Robitech.
I like it. You know, funny you should
mention that because I've never watched Robotech ever.
And one of my buddies who host agreat podcast called no one just
have the podcast raised the Canis.
He he does a like a review show based off of GI Joe and stuff

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like that. And he was talking about they
did a episode of Robotech on that.
He was talking about how Robotech is one of his favorite
shows. So it inspired me because also
Amazon just had a recently had asale of the Blu-ray set of
Robotech. I think it.
Was like 20-30 bucks so I boughtthe Blu-ray set and I'm going to

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watch Robotech. Oh, you're gonna.
I'm gonna blame. You for making me waste $40
you're. I think you're gonna be pretty
surprised at how adult it is. I think you're gonna be pretty
surprised at how deep it is. And you know, if anything, I

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mean, as a true fan, I would sayread the novels because, yeah,
I, I don't blame you. I read comic books, but I'm not
reading The Nobles anymore. And they're old school too.
So like with our old eyes, it's like I couldn't even see the
page right now. But I'll, I'll tell you this,
the closest I've gotten as of late to reading something like

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that is they had a Kickstarter and they have one now for the GI
Joe Compendium. Oh yeah.
All the GI Joe comic books and it comes like in a nice hardback
cover and stuff like that. It was like $100.
I like jumped on it as soon as Isaw it, right?
And I'm like, oh, I have to readall this now.
And it's like it looks like an encyclopedia.

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It's like this Dick. And I'm like, I'm not going to
have time to read all this. And then I feel like if I open
it up, I'm going to damage it. Like it's the whole thing.
And then on on top of that, theyjust announced it.
They didn't announce it. The Kickstarter's going right
now for the one they actually want, the Transformers 1.
And that shit is way more expensive than the GI Joe one.

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It's like $150.00 for one book. Oh my God, wow.
I loved I actually right behind me in my closet, I have a tin
box that's like the first fifty issues of the GI Joe comic
because I was obsessed with that.
And I'm oh, do I have it hangingup anymore?

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I don't have it hanging up. I have, I may have told you this
back in the day that I have a original drawing of Billy and
Storm Shadow back-to-back with like ninja blades that I had the
artist, what was his name? I think Rod Wingham ring hair.

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I I can't remember that. Sounds about right.
He was the one who drew all the GI Joes and I met him at New
York Comic Con and my dad paid him like 50 bucks to sit there
for like an hour and draw this big GI Joe Man, I was in love
with GI Joe. That thing probably is worth a
lot. Of money.
You know what, to me it is. I've had it everywhere,

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everywhere I've lived. All my friends recognize that
they're like, you had that in college.
I remember I was like, Yup, I, Ialways display it.
I love it. It's it would because that to
me, because that was like, you know, my real name's Billy.
And then in the comic book that becomes Cobra Commander's son,
you know, and I was like, wow, man, that's me.

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I could be living in some water tower in Manhattan, learning how
to be a ninja. Yeah, you could be Cobra
Commander's son. Wait, what was the, did I answer
the original question? Yeah.
Oh, Robotech. Yes, the books.
The books. Originally Robotech was as so

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many of these like kind of Japanese anime cartoons or toys.
That's like a mixture of a couple of different stories and
the guy, there were two guys whowrote the books that then they
made. Then they kind of, they first
wrote the books based on what they were doing with the anime

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series. Then the anime series adapted to
the books and started kind of editing the show.
It's a really interesting story.But anyway, the real story is
the books. So anyone who like loves
Robitech, the anime is great, but there's kind of stuff
missing because they had to pullit from other anime that had

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already been around called most Peda.
And there was another one that they mixed together.
But I I'm glad you're going to be watching it.
You'll love it. I'm going to be watching I'm I'm
excited to watch it. I've got some things to get
through first, but I'm going to definitely watch it.
All right. Question #3 action What is your?

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I really thought I'd see this problem, your white whale of
toys, that one toy as a kid you always wanted that you just
couldn't get. Well, that wow, see, I 'cause I
love, you know, I love toys. Well.
I I will go back to my friend Ray Sacanis, who's probably
listening to this pocket right now.
Like why is this guy mentioning to me so much?

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Because I love you Ray. Anyway, his white whale is the
USS Flag from GI. Yes, Now that is a lot of
people's and you know, I have a good friend, podcaster Jay
Gladfelter. He has a show called Geek Dad
Life and they talk, I don't know, Jay and Jack.
They did a Lost podcast. A lot of people listen to our
original Lost show, listen to them and they he has one of

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those. Oh, he does.
Yeah, he has to rob him. You should check out his geek
dad life because he started but lost in TV.
But now it's all toys. And I love it because I'm a toy
guy. I have a whole Lego room.
I don't know. I I don't know if I ever see.
Because the last time we really chatted longer, I was living in
a different house. And then we moved.
Correct. And my wife, who is amazing and

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wonderful, allowed me to pay a couple of dudes to build huge
tables. So I have a whole Lego room.
And I guess my white whale rightnow is it was a one of it was
like the second house that Lego ever did.
It's a small kind of English house.

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I think it's, I think that what they call it is like the, I
think it's like they didn't callit a tutor.
It's like English. It's not mansion or it's, it may
be manse. You know how they use that term
for like a whole, I think it's MANSE or something.
But anyway, but I guess from when I was a kid, what it was
really, I begged my dad for it. He wouldn't get it for me.

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He went to Forbidden Planet in Manhattan to try and get it, but
it was too expensive. Which was the all metal Voltron,
the Japanese version that came apart.
You could put the figures in it,but it was metal, It wasn't
plastic and it was like 4 or 5 feet tall.
It was. Huge.

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Funny you should mention that. I was just in Target a couple of
days ago. I like going to Target a lot.
And in their clearance section they had, because they remade
them, the Voltron lines. Yeah, yeah.
So I and they were like for like$12.00 a piece.

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They, they used like 40, thirty,$40 and then the big ones.
So I said, so I said to myself, 'cause I didn't think this was
going to happen. I say if they have all 5 lines,
I'm buying them. Did.
You get. It 'cause it's they had all 5
lines. I would have done that too man

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at. 1399 apiece. That's totally worth.
It that's like like 50-60 dollars to build a giant ass
Voltron, which I'm going to do. Tell us now.
Yeah, I I might have to check target soon.
Tech Target, they have a bunch of stuff on clearance right now
because you know, people will stop shopping there because of
terrible yeah, terrible policies, but their terrible

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policies apparently benefiting us in the long run.
Could we go on there and just byVoltron?
Yeah, I hadn't thought of that. Yeah, that's interesting.
Well, I know I. My son put me on game with that
because he went. His mother took me there like a
couple weeks ago, Like, hey dad,Target had like a bunch of video
games on sale for really cheap. I'm like, they do.
He's like, yeah. And I'm like, why would they

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have all that stuff on sale too cheap?
I'm like, oh, Oh yeah, 'cause people are not fucking with
Target right now. So.
And so I went to the day becauseI had to go get somebody who was
like the only thing open. So when I went there, they had
Voltron like and at a really cheap price.
I said I'm getting this and I'm excited.

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I, I haven't put it together yet, but I'm gonna put together.
It's gonna be awesome. That is awesome, man.
I constantly have to stop myself, especially when COVID
happened. I went through all my toys and I
sold a lot, a lot of my old Transformers, GI Joe actually, I
found a guy around here 'cause Ilive near Portland and Portland

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is like the Kingdom of grown up little boys who collect toys and
Lego like every week there's like toy fairs and there's so
many little independent toy and Lego stores around here that I
can trade with people. So I traded and I just went all
Lego. So I got rid.
I kept the, I kept like of course, like Storm Shadows,

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Snake Eyes, Optimus Prime. I kept some of the, you know,
core stuff I had, but I I'm likeall Lego doubt now.
I try not to get into action figures because I love them so
much. Man, I would just collect
everything. I have My house has become
ridiculous. I it's become.
Like, yeah, it's, it's too much.Like crazy.
Now I have like a last year I got a pinball machine, like a

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little small pinball machine. Oh man.
I got 3 arcade cabinets there and I got just a ridiculous
amount of stuff and they're like, it's, it's like I as a
kid, I always like wanted, I used to watch Silver Spoons and
I always wanted a house like that guy Ricky Schroeder.
And now I'm like, I kind of havethat house now.

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It's the only thing I don't havewith the train.
Yeah, that's what I was going. To say, do you have the train?
That's the only thing I don't have 'cause my house isn't big
enough for a train. Like that's not, it's big, it's
a decent size. It's not a big, it's not big
enough to justify putting a train around the whole house.
Oh man, well I have enough Lego trains.
One day my wife might make up, wake up and find them all over
the house. That would be fun.

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She doesn't come down to the Lego room a lot though.
Sometimes all of a sudden I'll be sitting there and I'll hear
honey and I'll be like what? And I'll just be like what the
fuck are you doing in here? Because she doesn't come down in
there. That's kind of the boys lair.
Smart that's like those movies you watch and you see like the
the killer and the words like I never knew he had all this stuff

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down He was like Kelly just toldus not to go in this room, but
you're from like a Lego room I'm.
Just going to trap people in Lego walls.
It's like Oz Lego style. Recommend.
Love it question #4. Yes.

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I'll make this. I was going to make this number
5. I'll make this number four.
Give me your top five 80s icons.Wow, top five 80s icons.
Oh wow. To be clear, this is who you
define as icons of the 80s starting to be like, oh, this is
who it is. You know, like that, like

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society deems is what you think who you think.
OK, these are the icons of the 80s.
The icons, well I mean I was born in 74, so the 80s.
You're. Better than age, yeah, I'm rate
in that age. And I, I, I'll, I'll start at #1
And I have listened to his. People who listen to our show

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know at night, I like to listen to like, little I, I like books
on tape, you know, the old audiobooks.
And I love listening to Arnold Schwarzenegger's biography.
I probably listened to it like 4000 times.
And I kind of feel like Arnold is the 80s icon.
I I'm going to slot him in at numero one.

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Yeah. I think he's #1 because it's
political too, right? Because he's like a Republican.
He loved Reagan, but now he's kind of come around a little
bit. You know what I'm saying?
He's a Hollywood guy. But he, he's from another
country, he's an immigrant. I just think there's a lot to
say about the 1980s. He is like the epitome.

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He is the American dream in 30 ways.
The guy who comes from another country, makes it big for
himself, ends up running from politics and winning, right?
And you know how? Easy story, man.
He has an amazing story. He does, yeah.
And you should, if you get a chance, listen to his, his
autobiography. It's great.
It's really great. His idea.

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He has very interesting ideas. He also helps me with my
physical therapy because I have like a bum shoulder and
listening to some of his workoutstuff and and like learning from
him about, you know what I mean?Like a lot of people when you're
when you're hurting, you take the day off.
He's like, no, that's the day you go harder.
You know what I'm like He, he has all these techniques of like

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working out that he kind of invented that, you know, like we
don't really think about becauseit's like an industry now, you
know? But back then when he started
out, it was just a bunch of dudes like lifting beer kegs.
And you know what I'm saying? Like it was, it was a whole
different world. All right.
So I got #1 I'm going to go #2 I'm going to go with Crocodile

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Dundee. Paul Hogan.
I don't know why. I think he's kind of funny,
goofy. Again, kind of like from
Australia. We seem to be obsessed in
America with like Australians and, and like just different
weird people in the 80s. I'm going to go.
OK, then I'm going to have to go, of course, Michael Jackson.

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Michael Jackson, without a doubt.
When I think about the 80s, I think about Michael Jackson.
We won't talk about the the other stuff that came later, but
the yeah, the singing, the dancing, the emit, but also the
back story. I mean, right, like when he was
a kid in the Jackson 5 and little Michael and then growing
up and then seeing him on like what?

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What did he show up on? Was it different strokes or
facts of life that he he he it was Janet.
No, it was Janet that. Was on good times.
Oh, OK, Janet showed up on something, but he was just like
they were all on something. Right.
It was on good. I think I want to say she was on
good times. She was on Different strokes.
She was on a couple of things. Yeah, she was right.

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It wasn't Michael, it was Janet.God, I loved Janet when I was a
kid too. Everybody loves Janet.
I love 2D too. Man goes roller skates.
Oh wait, I started thinking about something.
All right, back to the show. I'm going to go with so Michael
Jackson. Amazing thriller.
I mean, I had the pants and everything.
I, you know, like I just I lovedMichael Jackson.

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Then, following Michael Jackson,I'm going to go with Prince.
OK, Prince won't be happy to just follow Michael Jackson, but
that is a great answer. Yeah, I have to go with Prince.
I was. I loved Prince.
I thought Prince was amazing. And also, you know, I'm a pretty

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big dude, you know, like I'm 6 foot, 4I weigh around 260.
That's a big dude. Yeah, I'm pretty big.
Prince was probably about 5 foot, and he probably weigh
about 2 lbs, but he had so much power.
And. And also, let's admit it, the
ladies, the raw sexuality of that little man with the guitar

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gyrating around. And then here I was, this big,
goofy tall white kid living in the suburbs looking at Prince
going like, holy shit. Yeah, No, but I'm serious.
Like, it kind of inspired me in a sense, right?
Like, I mean, I would, yeah, I would try to move like him.
And there was something that waslike he was both masculine and

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there was some sort of kind of like feminine energy that he
understood where he could like, talk to ladies and kind of hang
with them too, right. But then also be be kind of like
very masculine at the same time.So I don't know, I think and and
he epitomizes the 80s in that sense as well.

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I think that was very interesting because in a way I
think Prince, I think Prince, This is a crazy theory, but in a
way kind of open the door for the grunge like era.
OK, OK. Elaborate on that a little bit.
Because I think he was emotionaland his songs like he would take

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a female point of view in a song, right?
Or he would have female subject matter.
He would investigate that, you know, And I think that that kind
of maybe that his his raw sexuality coupled with an
ability to be gentle or soft or open or artistic was something

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that I think America in the 80s was working with, you know, And
then in the 90s you had all the kind of sad white guy grungy
feeling Y music, which I loved all of it, of course, yeah.
Dope. Yeah, that's a great answer.
Thank you. Give me your #5.

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My #5 for 80s icons, you know, Michael Jordan, There we go.
We got a sports guy in there that's a really good one,
Jordan. Yeah.
I don't think I didn't have any women though.
They're all dudes. I don't think I had any women
there, all dudes, but I am a dude.

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Sometimes that happens. I.
Would think, well, I guess Madonna.
Oh, Oh yes, holy shit, I could say Madonna.
Because I was trying to think of, yeah, women, 80s icon.
I think Madonna would be a good one.
Cyndi Lauper. Jane Fonda.
Jane Fonda. I mean, gosh.
It's a lot of them Janet Jacksonshit.

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Janet Jackson, we said, Jack, how about I remember the the we
were just talking about the other day?
Kristen McAuliffe, Remember the astronaut on the Challenger?
Yes. That's kind of like very 80s.
So. Wow man.
No, no. I like about that list so far
the the five. You have all these 80s icons and

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then you have Paul Hogan, Crocodile Dundee.
What I like about what I like about that answer is he is
strictly 80s. Like.
You know, Michael Jackson, Michael Jordan, Prince, all your
other answers transcend past the80s.
But him like he is like if you weren't in the 80s, you don't

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know who the hell he was like. You have to know like.
Crocodile. Didn't he Like what is what is
that? What that was like?
That is like the epitome of the 80s.
It was a weird obsession that that's a nice people like and
Men At Work and stuff. People were into Australians,
yeah. So it's like if you if you just
missed that error, you just don't understand like, oh, he
was, he was like a thing, like abig thing back then, like the

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and it didn't, it didn't translate to the 90s at all.
Like it was like. No, no.
It's such a fascinating thing. Yeah, Maybe I should ask that
question next time. Like what 80s icons?
I guess use that question there.What 80s icons didn't leave the
80s? That's a really no.
I'm thinking about that questionfor another day.
Question #5 Name 1? Give me your top three foreign

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TV shows you've watched. Oh, oh, this is good, this is
good. I like I was.
Going to say 1, I say No 3. Top three foreign TV shows that
I watch. Well that's interesting.
I'm going to start with Dark on Netflix, the German sci-fi show

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have you ever seen? That I'd I have watched.
I think I watched the first season of it.
OK, you it's fantastic. Got got some timey travel Y
stuff. You got kids, you've got adults.
It's intergenerational. It's got a little bit of the
Stranger Things vibe to it, where they're in the town, yes.

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But then in the second and thirdseasons, it's three seasons, it
really expands and becomes something that's quite mind
bending and crazy and it asks a lot of questions.
And if you are a sci-fi time travel fan, I would say that's a
fantastic one. Ought.
To get back to that then. Let's see, thinking some you

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know, it's hard because when yousay fart, it's also like there's
so many British shows that it's sometimes I don't even kind of
remember, but I have. Those are foreign.
Yeah, I have to throw in the original Office, which kind of
led a revolution in sitcoms. I think I.
Agree. You know, I was definitely a

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huge fan of that, and I've watched a bit of The American
Office here and there, but I never quite got into it as much
as I got into the British version.
I just think Ricky Gervais was at his best at that time.
It was so funny. It introduced us to so many
different characters and the kind of cringe comedy.

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He was not that popular then. I don't think people remember
that it was not popular. Most sitcoms were, you know,
mom, dad, hey, we're going to solve it by the end of the
episode. And this was like really
something, the documentary styleof it.
It was just really groundbreaking.
And still, I'll catch an episodehere and there and I'll just be

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like, Oh my God, this hits it. And then I think that's why when
I watched the American one, I just feel like Steve Carell is
just kind of doing an impersonation of him.
But I know it gets better in other seasons.
People like it. Yeah, people love that show,
America. Let's see #3 gosh, Grand

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Designs, which is one of my favorite television shows have
you ever seen? This.
No, I have not. I need to probably let me put it
down now. It's fantastic.
It is a a dude following people build their own house.
It's just like people get an idea.
This is a it's an English show. And there's also, I think an

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Australian version. There might be different verse,
but I'm talk about the English version where he just comes on.
He says this couple and he's also very philosophical.
He's like, what makes a home? Is it where we live or is it
where we live our lives? This couple from Devonshire

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wanted to remake this castle or so you know what I'm saying?
And they're like, they go into how much money it costs, how
hard it is. It has wonderful music, it's
shot well and it's old school documentary where they basically
shoot it over the course of it could be five years, 20.
Six seasons, this show is. Yes, it's amazing.

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Holy crap. Yeah, they'll come back to it.
He'll come back ten years later and say like, how are they
doing? And they'll check in on people.
It's real like Kevin, I think isthe guy's name.
I just hand. Host it, I'm pretty sure.
Yes, you're correct. It's Kevin McLeod.
Well, that is a name from the clan McLeod.

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Yeah, it's a highlighter. Yeah, that's a great show.
Well. I guess I should give my 3.
Luther's my number one. I love Luther.
I was. I was thinking of Luther.
Luther's great, as was album playing assistant.
Moody. Yeah.
Moody Detective. Yeah, I, I love that show so

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much. Great show.
My #2 Squid Game. I like Squid Games a lot.
That was great. I like Squid Game.
Every episode I enjoy Let's Show.
I just love it so much. Yeah, my third one.
Probably be surprised, but I'm I'm quite sure this is a foreign

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show. Highlander.
Highlander, the TV show, the TV show.
Oh, I remember that. I would guess that that was
Canadian at the time, because that was, that was a Canadian
show. Yeah, that was, I was on like
that was like in syndication on like what now is like The CW but

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back then it would have been channel 1195, whatever.
Yeah. Correct.
I used to watch it. Yeah.
That's how long I used to watch it.
It used to be on the USA Network.
Oh, OK. That's how long the world was.
They used to show it on USA Network and I used to watch.
They should have had that. They had Xena and they had
Hercules at that time. That was like that big three at

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the time. I used to love the highlight of
the TV show. Didn't like the movies as much
but the TV show I loved. They're redoing, they're doing
the movies. I think they may have shot it
already. I'm pretty sure it's coming out
pretty soon. Yeah, that's a cool story.
Yeah, I love the Highlanded TV show.
The Highland TV show is great for for that time.

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I guess it's just like a sign ofthe time that that era are just
these low budget TV shows. Yeah, that do the most with that
budget. Yeah.
Alpha Jam. Well, that's how Star Trek was
for so long with Next Generationand DS9 and right like you
didn't know when it was going tobe on.
You would check and then it would be pre empted by like a
local sport. For me, it would be like there's

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a Yankees game on and then I'd have to watch that episode of
Star Trek at like 3:00 AM. You know, I'd be like checking
when it was on or something. You know those who did.
Now you just set the DVR, walk away, come back and it's like
50,000 episodes. Correct.
Or you just turn on Paramount Plus and it's probably right
there. That's true to that, probably.

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Yeah, 'cause I I've been watching Star Trek Discovery, I
had to get back into it and thatshow.
'S great. But I think the problem with
Paramount Plus is is because theshows, you know, the shows are
there waiting for you. It slows me down for going to
watch them. Yeah, that's, that's true.

(32:40):
I think you're right. Well, that isn't that the
problem with having so much to choose from that you don't
choose anything? Correct.
Like I'll just watch Darkwing Duck again because I know you're
like, I don't, I don't have to pay attention to what happens in
Darkwing Duck because I know thepoint I can enjoy is something I
can just watch real quick. Whereas if I'm watching
Discovery, I got to sit down. I got to watch it.

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I got to. Focus all my.
Time and dedication to what I'm watching on the screen, and
sometimes I don't have that. Yeah, yeah, I, I know.
I know exactly how that feels, man.
I do what? But I try.
I try to get in the new stuff I want.
I often want to go back, but then I'll push myself.
I was just watching the new Black Mirror.

(33:25):
Yeah, it came out I think yesterday and I was watching the
Speaking of Star Trek, the kind of Star Trek episode USS
Callister. It's a follow up to the other.
The episode I think was season 4, where with Jesse Plemons is
in it. Do you remember that?
I. Remember that episode?

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Yeah, it was like a virtual world.
It's pretty cool what they do with the second part of it, but
Black Mirror is crazy man. It's really good.
I love that show. I need to come back and watch
it, but I got to finish watchingDaredevil now.
Ah yes, I have not watched that.Oh no, I watched the first
episode. I got to get back into that.
Yeah, I've been trying to just make sure that's The One Show

(34:06):
that I've been keeping up with like every week when episode
comes out, I watched episode like immediately.
I haven't watched this week's episode yet, but I'm gonna I'm
gonna get to it. This week might be today, but
yeah, I, I I dearly love that show.
The show's great. I'm enjoying it so far.
And yeah, you know, well, let meask you this because 1st and
fore we didn't even talk about this.

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Let people know what DVR is yourpodcast network.
Oh. DVR podcast network.
So we started out in, I started out podcasting in 2007 or 2008
actually, I'm coming up, it's April, what's today like April
11th. And I think that I think it's

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like the 26th or something, or 27th is my podcasting
anniversary. And I think it'll be 17 or 18
years. And then, yeah, so we did Lost
and then for a while we just dida bunch of, we did this show
called Pod Tourage where it was just, it was like the Garbage
Opinions podcast where people, it's just like 4 dudes, we come

(35:08):
on, we talk shit. You know what I'm saying?
We did, we were, yeah. We were always looking for
another show to do. Then Game of Thrones came out
and we kind of coalesced a lot of friends podcasting about
that. Then I think it was what, 2015
or 16, maybe about nine years ago or so, I said I got, I want

(35:32):
to make a website. We have to start doing it
ourselves, not hosting somewhereelse.
And you know what I'm saying? And so people can come to one
place. So that's what I'm hoping for.
And you know, and we're trying to grow it out again going on
YouTube and stuff. So it's DVR, podcast.com and we
cover TV and film. We just finished covering White

(35:53):
Lotus and Severance. We're going to be covering.
We've covered all the seasons ofMayor of Kingstown.
We're going to continue doing that.
We do all types of all types of TV from everything from wherever
we did the Marvel show that we did that to.
Yeah, stuff like White Lotus more dramatic.

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I think in May or June we're going to do the new show Duster
that's coming out on HBO with Josh Holloway that JJ Abrams
did. So yeah, that's it, man.
We just. And then when we're not covering
the show, we just get together and talk about TV or film, pop
culture, you know, all that kindof stuff.

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Well, let let me ask you this, Ithink this is an important thing
to ask you 17 something years. What made you get in the podcast
that early in the game 'cause you know, podcast has completely
blown on that. Everybody and Mama have a
podcast, but you and me more so you.
We started in the earlier days of podcasting where there

(36:56):
weren't as many podcasts and it was kind of a niche thing.
Yeah. So what made you want to get it?
How did you find out what a podcast was back in 20 O 7?
Well, due to my voice, as I clear my voice, which people
have always said, you know, it sounds like radio.

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My brother and I, My brother hasa similar voice to me, except
it's not as deep. He sounds a little, He actually
sounds younger than me. He's four years older than me,
but he sounds a little younger than me.
And he started doing radio, likeliterally hitting record on.

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Remember back in the day, we'd have those little tape recorders
with a little stick microphone at the end of it that you
plugged in. You could just talk into it, and
we used to do radio shows. And I grew up listening to radio
and when I was in college, the first thing I did was went to
the radio station. So all four years of college I

(38:00):
had two radio shows. I had one radio show at
Livingston College at Rutgers, and then I had another radio
show at Rutgers College because there were two different radio
stations. So we would go get high, spin
records or just talk for an hour.
We bring people in off the street, do all kinds of crazy
stuff. So I just grew up on radio, man.

(38:22):
So that literally the minute what's it called, iTunes came
out, I was searching for radio. I wasn't searching for music.
I was looking for podcasts before podcasts even existed.
I was trying to get radio through my iPod or through

(38:43):
iTunes so I could listen to the radio and listen to talk radio.
So I was on podcast minute one. I was like downloading them.
I was kind of the same way, likeyou know, when iTunes came out
and I like to listen like sports, talk radio and stuff.
Exactly that too. Yup Yup.
Oh the fan in New York. Dude I grew up in New York.

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So the fan started. I was listening to the fan like
when they said I stayed up. I remember, I think, I think
stay up or get up in the morningto listen to the fan.
When it turned over from I thinkit was I, I can't remember, it
was WOR or ABC or something and I was so excited.

(39:24):
Man, I loved sports talk radio. I do too.
I was listening to I listening to a lot of the Dan Lebatard
show in Miami. That was like a big thing I used
to listen to all the time down here.
And I want to say that like, youknow, one of the first podcasts
I listened to was that day they made that a podcast.
Oh, they took that actual feed from the show and made it a

(39:47):
podcast. Exactly, Yeah.
I would also listen to Kevin Smith's show.
Oh. Yeah, 'cause Kevin Smith had
want to say, I want to say he had Fat Man on Batman back then.
Yeah, yeah. You know, Kevin Smith had like
1000. Pod what's it's mod cast or?
Yeah, it's mod cast. Was that the original 1?

(40:07):
I think I listened to that one too.
Also, the Gervais was original podcaster.
Speaking of the office, Gervais,I remember back.
Podcast back had a podcast back then.
Adam Corolla was pretty big around that time.
He. He was.
Yeah. Who?
Else I'm taking OH. The guy from the guy from MTV
who they sometimes call the pod father.

(40:29):
The guy with the big the big main of of blonde hair?
What the fuck was his name? He actually was a very early
podcaster. I used to listen to him.
What's his name? Oh gosh, who was that man?
Now I'm going to have to go Google this shit while we're
live on a podcast. This is almost always the most
exciting part of a podcast. Googling when you Google live on

(40:53):
the podcast. MTVVJ podcaster Adam Curry.
Oh yeah. Yep, he was a very early
podcaster, Adam Curry, and I listened to him and Geek News
Central, which is actually one of the first big podcasts.

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So that was how I first got intopod pot listening.
And then when I really got into Lost, that was the first time I
discovered like fan podcasts. And then I started it like it's
almost as soon as I started listening, I was like, I'm doing
a podcast. I didn't know that was a thing
you I didn't know that was a thing you could do until there

(41:36):
was this podcast called married to the games when it was like
this game. It was a gaming podcast and they
was they just bunch of friends got together talking about came
pretty popular talking about video game stuff and like, oh,
it was that one. And it was another one called
Geek Will Eyes, which is no longer around.
Geek Will eyes was a black podcast that's just talk about

(41:58):
nerdy stuff like they watch. They used to watch kind of like
DVRA little bit, except, you know, not white.
You know what they would they would they would do the they
were doing the same thing. They were talking about like TV
shows back then. I want to say that was like.
I want to say that was around the arrow verse time.

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OK, there's a lot of that's the that's the thing I like, man,
you know, like just listening todifferent people, listening to
friends. You know, I'm not AI don't
listen to. I think if you listen, if I went
through my podcast, I think the only one that is a person who is

(42:39):
quote UN quote famous would be like Bill Simmons or something.
Like everything else I listen tois guys like us, like people
that I find that are just like regular people.
I don't listen to like when a new star comes out with a
podcast. I, I'm, I've never listened to
any of those like smart lists orI've never listened to any of

(43:02):
that. Yeah, I listen to a lot of like,
independent podcasts. For the most.
Like, and funny thing about it when the when the podcast
usually get big, like I guess a good example of that is the Joe
Budden podcast. I remember the Joe Budden
podcast was called. I'll name this podcast later and
it was getting listened to it. It wasn't like super big.
And now it's like a huge conglomerate podcast and I don't

(43:24):
even listen to them. Like, oh, this knocked me this
this era has passed me by. But yeah, I listen to mostly
independent podcast, you know, like, you know what up though
Podcast hell. Yeah, 1 mic.
One mic, you know, stuff like that.
Your podcast, of course, I listen to a lot of different
things like that. I like hearing from the people
because the people are usually genuine with the thoughts and

(43:47):
opinions and views. And it's kind of really nice to
hear people's raw, hot takes on things, whether it's movies,
TV's, political landscapes, or, you know, I like to hear those
things and hear the conversationand the feedback from those
things and kind of learn from it.
Yeah, definitely. When someone has skin in the
game or they can lose something by talking about it or, you

(44:09):
know, that they can't say something or they're I I just
don't, I don't want to hear that.
It's, you know what I mean? It's like, it's kind of like,
like watching late night TV. They're there to promote their
thing. Yeah.
You might hear a funny story here and there.
And I do enjoy that. I mean, I like entertainers, But
generally speaking, what you're getting is kind of an

(44:31):
advertorial, you know what I mean?
Like they're really advertising what they're doing, which is OK.
It's just not what I enjoy. Yeah, I don't want to hear
people's political, and I don't mean political in the sense of
like Donald Trump or politics. I mean, like people would just
like talking about things and protecting their political

(44:52):
partners, the people they're friends with and stuff like
that. I'd rather people have open,
honest conversations about things and they like, I don't
want to talk about this because I know this person.
No, no, no, no, no. Just keep your mind.
Exactly. It almost feels like how back in
the day, you know, way before both of our times, people would
go to like the front of the townsquare and air out their

(45:14):
grievances and things like that.Kind of feels like that.
Or maybe like or maybe more a recent recent kind of company
like a Speakeasy? Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah, we are the town criers, right.
Like yes, that's who, that's whowe'd be man.
Like if we were, if it was back and whenever we would be sitting

(45:34):
outside talking to people as they came by, we'd know what was
going on, you know what I'm saying?
Like we'd have our finger on thepulse.
That's that is what I like listening to.
And it's just, it's also fun too, because then you get to
find new collaborators as well. You know, you can listen to

(45:54):
something and say, Hey, let's, let's work on something
together. Hey, come on the podcast.
I've met so many different people like that.
Yeah, that's one of the coolest things about it, just meeting
people from different backgrounds and different walks
of life and learning about them.That's one of the reasons I love
doing this show, because every week is a different conversation
you do with a different person about something that I have no

(46:17):
clue about. So I learned from it.
So it's almost like when I was akid, I was rushing to get out of
school, then I'm an adult now I'm rushing to get to get
knowledge. So it's kind of like, yeah, I
kind of like just have a conversation with people and
learning about things that I don't know anything about.
And I think that's really cool that podcasting or is going to

(46:39):
talk the benefits of social media.
Social media has done a great job with opening up the world to
everybody. Like, you know, they're like
they're things that back in the day I would never like, for
example, anime before social media and for before like, you

(46:59):
know, YouTube and Amazon and allthese things.
If I want to watch an anime or find out by anime, you got to
kind of like know somebody who knew somebody.
And now if you just go on a you can go on a group threatening
and hey, this is this anime right here.
You might want to check this out.
Only animes we're going to do about was like Dragon Ball, you

(47:21):
know, Speed Racer, yeah, Robo Attacks and stuff like that.
Just like the the surface levelsof it, like, you know, we didn't
really have. Yeah, that's true.
That's true. I mean, hey, that's how I
started with the podcasting too,like from Lost going on social
media. That's How I Met so many people.
But I don't know, man, unfortunately it has maybe for

(47:43):
me, I don't really. I like I, I find that I like
more the groups, like you were saying, a certain group or
topic. I'm not even on Twitter anymore
and I didn't, I joined like bluesky or whatever.
And then I was like, I'm good. I go on Facebook to go on our

(48:05):
DVR group and kind of chat with people.
And I like to look at a lot of pictures of Lego and see
friends. And once in a while I shoot my
mouth off because I know all my friends agree with me.
Once in a while, somebody sneaksthrough.
Yeah, but. You know.
Who would have thought? That a rich white man would
destroy the social media platforms that we love?

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Who would have thought that a billionaire buying a social
media platform maybe a bad idea?I have no, that's crazy.
It's, you know, last night I waslistening.
Another biography that I've beenlistening to is Bob Iger's book.
It's not really a biography, butit's kind of his story of his
business life. Oh, OK.
And do you know that he was on his way to sign the papers to

(48:55):
buy Twitter? Disney was buying Twitter.
He was literally on his way. And he said he just got a
feeling that this was not the right direction for the company
and that Twitter was too messy and it was not a positive force

(49:17):
for people. And he what he called the board
and said, I'm not doing it. We're not doing it.
And then Elon Musk came in and and took took over Twitter.
So he was right. He was right again.
If he had bought it, it may be, you know, a Disney Twitter.
I don't know. I.
Think Twitter that bad. I would have bought it.

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I think our biggest problem withTwitter will be like, God damn,
they keep short of all this marketing shit, Disney and all
that stuff. It wouldn't be like, damn,
they're like destroying the account.
It's like there's like, Oh my God, wait a second, there's a
Nazi that lives next door to me?What the fuck?
Like yes, why is all this? It's a.
KKK and Nazi propaganda all overTwitter now, yeah.

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It's so sad. Yeah, it's sad to me because I
love Twitter. I.
Did too. Yeah, I loved it and I did
really meet so many awesome people.
And, you know, you used to really be able to go on there
and somebody would have an opinion and then someone would
say, hey, you know, I get your point, but I kind of think this

(50:21):
way. And then someone would actually
speak to you about it. Like you could actually kind of
have a conversation. Not like you fucking drink
babies blood or like, you know, like like no, like you're
fucking you, asshole, you, you whatever, you lived hard or it's
like, I can't even go on there because anything It's like

(50:43):
there's I realize when he first bought it, I was like, OK, I'm
probably going to get off this, you know, like this isn't going
to last long. And then I started seeing like
all the like for you, I was like, what the fuck?
This isn't for me. I have no interest in any of
this, right? Like I don't listen to Joe

(51:05):
Rogan. I don't want, I don't know
anything about this, like right wing shit, like that's just not
my world, you know? And it just, it just became too
much. And maybe that's for the better
because you know what, man? I don't know.
I kind of have a theory. I would say this to my wife.
She thinks I'm crazy. But I don't know.
I could see a new generation. Like my son is 11 and he thinks

(51:28):
that social media is stupid. Like he thinks he thinks
Instagram, Twitter. I mean I am his father so he may
have heard it from me but he says his friends aren't into it
either. Like going on TikTok and
listening to people like they think it's lame.
So maybe we'll get a future of kids who just turn it off.

(51:50):
They're just like, Nah, I'm good.
Yeah, I think, I think it might be.
It might end up being a good thing.
I'm seeing the younger generation flock towards like
gaming circles, like hey, we're just playing Fortnite together.
Right, groups where they yeah, it's like like minded people
like Discord or groups or something I think is maybe the

(52:11):
new thing. It's not like everybody can see
what you wrote. So you're arguing with the
world. Yes, right.
It's like safe little groups, I think is the future of social
media platforms. And I wouldn't be mad at that,
by the way. I think that's a pretty good
thing. Like you.
Just I might come back to it. Yeah, You can speak to your

(52:32):
people, get out your own opinions to your people, and
they can agree and they don't agree.
And can I? But can I have positive,
productive conversations? And I think now the biggest
problem with social media is that you don't.
Those conversations don't exist on Twitter or Instagram or talk,
we want to call it. Yeah.
It's not, it's not a place to dothat.
You know, I agree there's some good pictures though.

(52:52):
I do see good Lego pictures and like I'm into like models too,
and Diorabas. Like, you know, I love practical
effects in film. So I, I look at a lot of that
stuff and you get a lot of good art and stuff, you know?
Oh yeah, you get a lot of ton ofof good art and stuff like that.
Yeah, on social media in general, man, this has been a

(53:14):
great conversation. It has.
Let them know where to find you,brother.
Oh, we're done. We're done.
I'm going to keep talking. We're like an hour in.
That's our show sometimes like an hour and a half minimum.
So when we go, we go shorter. I'm like, wait, did I talk
enough? All right, that's good.
I'll accept it. I talked enough.

(53:35):
That means we got to have you back on again.
Yeah, I love it, man DVR, podcast.com.
Check us out. That's where you can find
everything and yeah, we talk about TV and film and.
And pretty soon I'll have to have you come on and we'll go
through all this shit you're watching and TV and what you

(53:56):
think's happening in that world.OK, I'm down for that.
Cool, definitely, I dig it. Thank you guys for listening.
As always Devin Cox experience we are out.
Peace. Awesome.