May 22, 2025 • 62 mins
This week my guest on the Podcast is Branden (formerly of Shitty Song of the Week) talking about his new podcast "GoreHounds" which is his version of "Mystery Science Theater 3000" but cheesy horror films
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Thank you. Welcome to the Delvin Cox
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Experience, the podcast which each week I'm on a one man
mission to you now that comes todiversity.
I'm your host, Delvin Cox, and with me on the podcast, someone
who has been on here a long time, but he's on here off on a
lot, let's say the least. My boy, my brother Brandon Fish.
How you doing bro? I'm doing well, Delvin.
Thanks for having me back on. Always a pleasure, bro.
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It's always a good time when you're you bring the wild
stories, you bring the interesting facts to fiction.
Everything that's going on, the stories about serial killers.
We got so many classic Brandon stories here, man.
We can make a whole compilation of it.
Excellent. That's what I like to hear.
Perfect. As always, let's start the
podcast off with the five for five.
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Five questions, 5 answers. Get the ball, roll the Brandon.
Are you ready? Let's get into it.
Question #1 Who is your favoritefictional serial killer?
That's a tough one. I mean, really is.
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I mean, I guess currently I'm gonna have to go with Ark the
Clown from the Terrifier series.That's a good one.
Yeah, I think it's it's just because the body counts
impressive. The kills are ridiculous and
over the top and entertaining. So it it just makes it worth
investing in. I appreciate that you went like,
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well I guess he's supernatural now.
Supernatural elements of it. I like that answer a lot 'cause
he is a serial killer. In my head I went Dexter Morgan.
OK. Because, you know, because he's
a serial killer. But you know, you does it for
the right reasons. Quote UN quote.
Yeah, one of them vigilante serial killers.
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Until he doesn't. But yeah, that's a great answer.
Art the Clown. So question #2 since we're going
to get into this, is that you mention Art the Clown one is
your favorite low budget horror film?
Man, you, you really know how tobring the tough questions to
this show. I guess you've been doing it
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long enough. You, you know, a thing or two,
but a little bit let's, let's see low budget.
Yeah. I think.
The first terrifier counts, I don't know the the rest I don't
think counts, but the first one definitely counts.
I think I'm going to have to go with a It's a haunted house
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movie called We Are Still Here. OK.
It's super low budget indie movie that got some success.
It's it's a really bloody, gory fun time, but it's not like a
over the top comedic movie. It's just a really ultraviolent
haunted house film. OK, I might check that one out
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then. That sounds pretty interesting.
All right, question #3 let's go.Guilty pleasure movies.
Because, yeah, people notice there's a trend here.
What's a movie that you like, but you don't want to tell
people that you like it? Oh man, I don't know, 'cause I'm
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I'm. So I'm I'm very picky about.
But see, that's the that's the fun thing about this question.
You can take this question two ways.
You can take it as a movie that's everybody knows it's
terrible that you like or knowing you.
I think this is appropriate. A movie that you know, that's
just so dark and just depraved, but you like it and you're like,
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maybe I should let people know Ilike this movie.
A good example of this, a good example of this my friend, and
you might want to check this movie out.
He like he he recommended this movie to me called The Coffee
Table. OK.
And he didn't tell me anything about it and once I got to
report like what the fuck are you recommending me because it's
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super dark. You might like it, so I just I
will pass it on to you. This movie called The Coffee
Table. Check that out.
I don't want to tell you think about it.
Just go in and watch it. I guess it's it's label.
I think I want to say is label adark comedy slash horror almost,
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but it's reality based. That's why I'll leave it at.
OK, as far, I don't really thinkI have any guilty pleasure
movies, but if we're going to goweird, dark, twisted, whatever,
I'm gonna have to give credit toTusk, the Kevin Smith movie.
That's a good one. Yeah, I, it's, it's original as
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fuck. I like the idea that it's based
around a podcast episode and it,you know, it turned it into an
act like from an idea to an actual movie.
It's considered a horror comedy,but there's nothing really funny
about it. It's just a dark, weird,
demented horror film and the ending is super fucked up.
I enjoy that. So yeah, I think I'm going to go
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with Tusk. I think Tusk, yeah, Kevin Smith
has a a huge catalog of movies. I think people will probably say
they hit or miss. Absolutely.
If you like Kevin Smith movies, you did Kevin Smith movies, but
if you don't, you're like, alright.
But Tusk is one of those that one and Red State are the 2
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ones. I'm like, you know what?
I actually enjoy these movies a lot.
I agree, I I think he's a much better horror director than he
is a comedic director. I agree because they are super
dark and messed up. It's like wow we know Tev, we
know Kev Smith is like a light hearted funny fun loving person.
But RedState, Tusk, and even Dogma for that matter are super
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dark films. Right.
I kind of dig it. All right, we're on question #4
right? I believe so.
I. Remember correctly.
Question #4 Let me ask you this.Jim Jones.
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We know you love Jim Jones. Do you think it's ever possible
for us to get a modern version of what he did?
Absolutely, absolutely. I mean, you know, especially
with social media being the way it is and people, people
following people the way they do, you know, it's only, it's
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only a matter of time before we start hearing about major cults
that are focused around like Twitter and Facebook and
whatnot. And like it's I, I could see
another Jim Jones type in the works.
Maybe the body count won't be asmassive as 900 or and so, but I
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could definitely see it happening.
Yeah, I agree. I think hold on one second,
Brandon, you're good yes, yeah, I think you're kind of right
based off of what our society isthat how influential social
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media is to many people. I think we can easily see a well
we're. It just takes 1 charismatic
person with a decent following online to it.
It you see it all the time with people it take it takes nothing
nowadays. I was going to kind of say,
yeah, you kind of see that with like people like Andrew Tate,
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our current president, you know,like, well, I was different
people. We're kind of getting that.
I don't think it's to the, well,maybe it is with certain things.
It's not to the level of Jim Jones, Rick the Kool-aid yet,
but it's eerily close in some circumstances.
It's only a matter of time, Delvin, that's all.
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Yeah, I kind of agree. Question #5 this is going to be
a dark question. Oh, really?
Dark question. The question I probably
shouldn't even ask. Oh well, now you got to.
Now I have to ask this question.I'm gonna ask this question.
I know my audience. My audience being you, if there
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was one event that you could have been there to watch as an
observer, just to figure out like, hey, what's going on here?
Not that like, you know, chill shit on, obviously, but just to
watch it, it's OK. I get to know what happens in
this situation. What event are you going to sit
down for? OK, that's interesting.
So I'm just like a family on thewall for a dark moment in
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history. Correct.
OK, I'm gonna have to go with anobserver at unit 731.
Are you familiar with 731? No, I'm not.
I'm all in now. OK, so Unit 731 was a Japanese
laboratory, I guess, or internment camp that they they
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took prisoners of war and conducted horrifying experiments
on them. Oh shit.
Yeah, sort of like, like, you know, live, live divis sections
with surgery without anesthesia,like a lot of frozen amputations
and just fucked up, like just for the sake of seeing what can
be done to the human body. And you know what?
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What was this? This was during World War 2.
Wow I I have never heard of this.
That's. You should take a look into it.
Just it. Just Google Unit 731.
There's a lot of fascinating information on it.
They've made a couple horror films.
Men Behind the Sun that's based on Unit 731.
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Definitely worth the watch. It's I, I guess I haven't heard
of it because, you know, I follow history, but not to the
degree that other people do it, obviously so.
But when you, when people talk about World War 2, they, they,
they, they talk about the hit, they talk about Hitler and the
things he's doing. So you hear about the atrocities
that he's committed. So when you hear about stuff
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like Unit 731, right? You don't hear about that stuff
as often. It's like I said, you know, you
when people, especially in America, when people talk about
like World War 2, they talk about two things really.
They talk about Hitler and the atrocities he committed.
They didn't talk about, you know, the atom bomb, that that's
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what people really bring up. Like this is what stopped the
war. This is what happened.
US came in, dropped the bomb, and that kind of killed
everything off as American history says it.
So I think it's kind of interesting here the other story
that maybe people don't know about.
Yeah. And like I'm, I'm fascinated
with the the darkest in human nature.
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You know, it's, it's always interesting to me to see the,
the depths of depravity that people will go to.
So something like that, just, itwould intrigue me.
I will say this, I don't, I don't think I'm necessarily into
it, but it always fascinates me at the levels human beings go to
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do things to other human beings.I don't think people really
understand the severity of it. And what I mean by that is, like
you, we we live in America. And in America, no matter how
bad it it gets right now, we still in Atlanta.
Privilege. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. But when you look at what goes
on in other countries and see how they, like, torture people
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and how crimes get committed andthings like you, like you look
like these. This is not normal, but this is
something that goes on these people's everyday life.
Like when you hear the stories like cartels chopping up bodies
or governments taking away people and they're never being
seen again or hear the stories of like Guantanamo Bay and
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things like that. You're like, wow, this these,
these are things that are going on outside of what we know.
And I think that is fascinating that we are, as a country,
woefully blind to that type of stuff.
Yeah, let me, let me ask you, David, since they were on this
subject. OK.
What? What would you like?
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I want to know what you would want to observe.
Put this shit around the other way.
There's a lot of things I want to know about just for like, I
guess, so I can know like the great mysteries of like the
world. OK.
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Like and it yeah, the dark 1 waslike a good, a good example of
that is I wouldn't mind, I know,I know this is dark.
It's really dark. I wouldn't mind being there for
Jesus crucifixion. OK.
Just just for the simple fact ofknowing, OK, it actually did
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happen that well, right? Did this to prove that it was
what it was. That it existed, it happened.
So seeing the crucifixion, the resurrection, I think will be a
really interesting thing to justsee, to see, I guess culturally,
I think on a darker note. But see, I don't know if I want
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to see this because I feel like it would make me upset.
Like, furious, furious upset. Because the first thing that
came to my mind is the burning of Black Wall Street.
OK. Do you know the story about
that? I'm not too familiar now.
Oh, yeah. What what happened was back in
segregation time, there was thiscommunity of black people.
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They kind of like, you know, they were, they went out on
thriving. They were, they were not only
surviving, they were thriving. They made it like community, I
can't remember exactly where it was at, but they made this
community that was thriving withthe Black people's open up black
businesses. They was it was a super
successful community. Something happened.
Young boy gets accused of rapinga white woman.
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Then essentially the, for lack of a better term, the Klan comes
burns down the whole town. OK.
Killing everyone there, children, women, everyone for a
rape that did not happen. They just kind of did it because
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the town, just because in the town was super successful in a
time where they didn't think black people can make a town
that was super successful. This was the time, one of the
times in history when you see black people just actually
getting together, building theirown communities and making
something out of it. And I think that's a
fascinating, that's a fascinating and heartbreaking
thing to see and knows like damn, this was a time in history
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where black people were actuallylike doing something and making
something like special for them.And I would love to see how does
that look like this black community that was just being
super successful. It's just a tragic story of how
that would, how they just how they destroyed it like in one
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day. Like there's a lot of stories
like that in history that peoplejust don't know about that
happened. They were like a lot of
communities, like when they started segregation, the whole
idea was supposed to be that these black communities would
not prosper. And it was actually quite the
opposite. It was a lot.
A big part of that was motivation that these
communities like, you know, because they went from nothing
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to a is, you still have nothing,but you can make something of
yourself with it. It gave them the motivation to
thrive for better. And because, frankly speaking,
the white counterparts in that area who are, who are also poor,
didn't have that and didn't havethe community elements.
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They got jealous. And they just said, we're going
to we're going to take it, we'regoing to destroy it.
And that's kind of what happened.
It's, it's a sad story. It's a shocking story, but it's
it's a dark part of American history that a lot of people
just don't talk about. OK, well I could see that being
a fascinating thing to observe for a brief period.
Yeah, if you if you have HBO Max, the Watchman TV show, which
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is a weird thing, actually showsit.
I think it's a Watchman TV show.Yeah, they show parts of it, OK.
They talk about it. It's like a plot point in the
show, really good, really interesting thing to look at.
But if, if, if we're not too much so that's going to make me
mad. JFJFKS assassination, which
we've already seen, would be interesting to see in person.
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Just like if I could get the whole scope, the whole field of
vision. Oh, OK.
I thought you were like, I want to be in the driver's seat like
like that close observing. Like, if I can get the whole
field of Vigilant, OK, this is where the shot came from, from
that building. That guy shot it.
It didn't ricochet in Atlanta. Let me just see what exactly
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happened 'cause there's so many stories about what happened, how
the shot came off and where the bullet came from.
I'll be super fascinated to see actually who actually pulled the
trigger. Yeah, but we're at a point in
history, like, does it matter anymore?
Like, didn't they just, like, find, like, reveal the identity
of Jack the Ripper not that longago?
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And it's like a who gives a shit?
Yeah, they did do that. I was, I was fascinated by that.
I'll just, it's just one of those things that I guess I
would just like to know, to know, I guess there's a there's
a lot of things I would like there.
Like I would like to know, like what really happened tonight
with OJ and Nicole Brown Simpson, apparently, like when
Nicole Brown Simpson got murdered.
But we know what happened. We know what happened, but look,
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I would like to know exactly thestory behind it because there's
been so many stories about that.Yeah.
I guess, I guess my fascination is, is with exactly the, what
happened in the situation as opposed to the actual incident,
like what made it get to here. And, you know, and plus there's
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also like a lot of historical things that I would like to see
in terms of like even death, like David and Goliath, you
know, 'cause I don't know if people know this, but the events
in the, in the Bible, they are like proof that certain things
in the Bible actually did happen.
It may not happen the way they said it happened, but they're,
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they're like events that are like been documented by
historians. Oh, this actually did happen.
Like there was like, 'cause I, Idon't watch a lot of documentary
on stuff like that. Like Jesus was actually a
person. Now, whether he did whatever
they said he did either here northere, we don't.
It could be debated. But scientists and historians
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say he was actually a person andthis and this happened and
things like that. So I always find that stuff
interesting and fascinating to see.
I like to know the history of things and stuff, just find out
about things. It's fascinating to me.
See, you want to watch the development of stuff, whereas I
am ready to watch it all burn. Well, that's awesome.
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We're watching it now, Brandon. We're we're living that time
now. Brandon, you won out that
battle, I guess you could say. So, Brandon, how's it been
going, buddy? Excuse me?
It's going good. You know, things are things are
picking or picking back up around home, you know, with the
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family and whatnot, getting ready for summer and shit and
doing good with the shows and whatnot.
So yeah. You got a new show.
Yeah, I'm excited about it. Gore Hounds.
So let people know all about it.Who hasn't know about it?
I was on the episode of Gore Hounds and I was excited to be
on. It's a great episode actually.
Yeah, it's OK. So it's it's kind of like a
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movie review show that you watchthe movie in real time with us
as we're reviewing it. So you get the chance to
participate and you'll leave your comments and thoughts on
everything too. It's it's a great experience for
everyone who likes to enjoy cheesy horror movies.
We specify in cheesy horror. I I dig it and I like the fact
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that because Brandon, when Brandon asked me to be on it, he
didn't know that I like horror movies and cheesy horror movies
at that. So I was super happy and excited
to be on it. It was fun.
We watch Popeye the Slayer, man,no.
We watch screen boat. We watch Screen Boat, that's the
one we watch. I watch Popeye the Slayer Man by
myself. Yeah, that, that was our first
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episode, was Popeye. Yes, but yeah, we watch Screen
Boat, which was an interesting film to watch.
I kind of dig what. Let me ask you, what do you
think of this whole thing that these creators are doing now
when they just take an IP where the rights are going on it now?
They just make. What do you think of that whole
process now? I personally love it like I, I,
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I do too. I don't expect greatness out of
them, but that's what makes these movies so great in the
long run. Like the, the, especially when
they're not throwing major budgets at them.
So you can, you know, you get a lot of practical effects.
The kills are over the top and great.
The stories are ridiculous and absurd, but who gives a shit
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about that? You know, like the the Winnie
the Pooh, Blood and Honey movies.
They've been really well done. The the first one wasn't great,
but they gave it a second chanceand that was that was a
brilliant movie, I thought. Yeah, the second one was really
good, I thought actually. Yeah, I'm, I'm a fan of these
public domains. I want more of them like I want,
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I want to see like other characters that you wouldn't
expect because I, I don't, I don't Now it makes me wonder
what exactly is up for grabs, you know?
Yeah, I was talking to myself about this update because he was
asking the question like, why dothey keep making these movies?
I'm like, well the answer is simple because they.
Can. Because they can and because
it's a, it's AIP that people know.
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So as long as you can get a cheap budget, you can make a
movie that people would know thecharacter and probably be
willing to go see for a cheap amount and probably make a
profit off of it just because, OK, it's a Mickey Mouse movie.
Mickey is a Mickey Mouse horror movie.
And people would go see it just out of intrigue and stuff like
that. And you probably made it for
like what couple $100,000 and you probably make like twice
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that much, maybe a million. I got a little butter honey.
Did I think that's a really coolthing to kind of just make these
movies if you're an unknown director and kind of have an
already built in fan base. What I'm what I'm fascinated in
about This is why are all of them choosing to make horror
movies? I'm assuming because it's cheap
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to make horror movies. But like for example, if I have
if because when we just talk about Popeyes license is free to
use now. Yep.
Why not just make a Popeye movie?
Well, they've done that with Robin Williams and you know, no
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one wants to. No, who wants to see a Popeye
movie like a serious Popeye movie nowadays?
Like a love story between Popeyeand olive oil And who gives a
fuck? You want to see these characters
do things that they haven't donebefore and something that you
wouldn't expect them to do. Like Winnie the Pooh is a
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wholesome, lovable character meant for children that you
would never expect to go on a murderous rampage.
But it's great to watch happen. I agree.
And, and the cool thing about that movie in particular is that
it seems like that first one andthat second one was so good or
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so popular. No one else is trying to make
Winnie the Pooh Movies Now. No.
And they're, they're creating anentire universe around that
Winnie the Pooh. Like there's a the Peter Pan's
Neverland nightmare that just came out.
It's that's it's a great movie, definitely worth checking out,
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but that's also connected to theWinnie the Pooh universe and the
Bambi movie that's coming out inJuly.
That's the same thing. They're all going to be
connected, like they're trying to make this great cinematic
universe where these characters all come together in like a
Freddy versus Jason style match,and I'm all for it.
I love that idea, by the way. I think that's actually a great
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idea. Like he's just like the you
know, what it reminds me of whenI when I look at these movies
and things like that, I think ofthe trauma verse, OK, and how,
you know, you had all these women like the toxic Avenger
nuke pie and all of them kind oflike connected together, but
they didn't. And I kind of dig that, that
that we're kind of getting back to making movies like the drama
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movies, but actually we're making drama's making more
Movies Now. Again, they got to.
Have you seen the trailer for the new Toxic Avenger?
I did. What do you think?
I think it looks decent, I'm personally hype for it.
I was very skeptical because like, I'm, you know, Peter
Dinklage as the Toxic Avenger. I wasn't too.
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Sure about me neither. But you know, Elijah Wood plays
a great villain and he's creepy as fuck, so I'm looking forward
to that and the the gorgeous looks over the top and well
done. So I'm I'm here for it.
That that was the thing that I was kind of worried about with
the Toxic Avenger movies, because, you know, all of them
are super gory, over the top. It's to the point where it's
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like it's comical. So you, you, you have to like
hit that element of it. And it seems like for the most
part, they're getting that. See, I, I got a different thing.
I I get the feeling that this isgoing to be a much more serious
take on the Toxic Avenger. I hope not I.
Don't know, I don't know. I kind of, I kind of like the
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idea of it getting a little darker than what the story
actually was. A little darker, not too darker.
When I hear it serious, a more serious thing, I usually think
of like, I don't know if you sawthis, but the remake of RoboCop.
Oh Yep, OK, I have. Yeah, where it kind of just
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watered down what RoboCop was. And like, this is this is OK,
this is a good acting film, but it's not RoboCop.
RoboCop the movie was like a parody of modern society and it
did it. It went over top, over the top
with his violence. Because there was a point in
kind of telling you, like this Ultraviolet society is not what
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we should be cheering, you know?And I, I kind of dig what
RoboCop the movie stood for. And the remake was none of that
stuff. So like this is not good.
Yeah, but that like that remake came in the time of bad remakes.
I feel like we're we're getting a sort of turn around now with
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certain movies where the remakesare actually something that's
worth taking a look at. OK, Yeah, I can.
I can go with that. What?
Well, what remakes you would youwant to see get made?
Damn dude. We got evil dead.
We got to evil. Is over, Delvin.
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We got 2 Evil Dead movies. Yeah, and they were pretty well
done, I'll give him that. I'd like to see another shot at
the Poltergeist movie franchise.Yeah, like I know they they did
it in 2015 or 16, something likethat.
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And that was kind of a cheesy soso, but I would like to see
another like shot at that, but amuch see more serious, darker,
more violent version of it 'cause I feel like there's a way
to make that an actual scary movie.
Hear me out, I think that would be a good movie for any director
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just to knockout the park with like a smaller director with a
smaller budget. I think they would kill a
Poltergeist movie. Sure, absolutely.
I want to go back. Go back to the practical
effects. Not like everything being CGI
'cause it's just doesn't look great.
Yeah, I don't like the CGI horror movies.
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It feels off. Right.
Well, let let. Me ask you this, since you're
doing gore house, what's your criteria for movies that you
want to pick? Like let's put this on the show.
Like what movies do you look at as like this needs to be on gore
house. Well, right now, I mean, we've
been on the public domain kick, so we, well, we're running out
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of those. So we're branching out and doing
other things like, like I said, they got to be horror movies
first. First off, the time, time span
doesn't matter. It could be from any era really.
We're open to whatever, preferably bloody movies like I
don't want. I don't want to watch like a
thriller kind of horror movie that doesn't really go anywhere.
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I'm not looking for slow burns. We want to watch like fast
action stuff. It's quick in your face and just
a bloody good time. There's a lot of good movies out
there. There's a lot of moves that came
out recently so that you can check out what I like about this
and like what I like about your show is there are so many indie
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horror films that come out. Like every week there's a new
indie horror film that comes out.
So you always have content. Oh, yeah, there's there, there's
always options for us to go through and there's like, like
I'm a, I'm a pirate Delvin. Like I'll, I got no problem
bootlegging movies and shit. So like you and I watched
Screenboat. That movie just came out, you
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know, like Peter Pan's NeverlandNightmare.
That was something that just came out in the UK, but it
wasn't even in the US yet when we did the episode.
Yes. So I got no problem finding the
newest of the new. I think it's a great idea.
I'm trying to find, I'm looking at my list right now, movies
I've watched something. What have you?
Have you watched in a violent nature yet?
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I haven't, no. That that one might be a good
one. You're watching Gore house.
I think you would like that one.It's a unique concept to it and
I think you would find fascinating.
OK. And it's an indie horror movie.
Is that one? If you want a funnier 1 Bagman.
OK, yeah, I've seen Bagman. That's a interesting take.
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Yeah, I, I, I like horror comedies too, you know, like I,
I, I'm a big fest. Especially the cheesier and
shittier they are, the better they end up being.
Like Killer Sofa and Lamageddon and whatnot.
Like things you would never expect.
I just found a attack of the Killer Donuts.
I just put that on the list of movies to watch.
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That's a that sounds fun. Yeah, exactly.
So let's let's get to the classic What are some of the
movies you as a kid that you like to watch like horror
movies? You know, like there wasn't as
much options as there were back.I mean, so obviously I'm gonna
say like the Halloween series, Nightmare on Elm Street, shit
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like that. Those classic slashers I liked,
I liked a lot of sci-fi movies, like sci-fi horror shit too.
And see, I don't know how to answer that.
Like I'm a I'm a I'm a big fan of found footage stuff.
So like Blair, Blair Witch, Area51, the Poughkeepsie tape, shit
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like that. OK, Because when I was growing
up, I was growing up around the era of like, you know, Friday
the 13th nightmare, of course. But there was also like, these
films that came out that were just a little bit off of
Hollywood's radar, like I Spit On Your Grave, Oh, yeah, those
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are great. Was one of them.
Hills have eyes, hills have awaycamp.
That's the way I was going to goto sleep away.
Camp was one that I, I remember very well because when I was a
kid, my uncle, he was in the army and when he came back, he
came back with a big giant case like a like one of those like I
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guess the a giant case full of full of movies.
But 60% of these movies were like horror movies, 20% action,
10% porn. But I remember like going
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through this case and finding movies like the Toxic Avenger,
sleep away camp and just fallingin love with these movies.
Nightmare on Elm Street and they're all just videotape, like
recorded a lot of movie theater,whatever it was.
And that's where my love for these horror movies came from.
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I was choking for a second. So to bring it back to you, I
wanted to ask you, did you have somebody in your family like
that who kind of brought you these horror movies and brought
you in the game? Was they knew it or not?
Not really. It was the sort of thing that I
stumbled onto myself, like my, my, my, my folks were a little
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protective when I was younger when it came to the shit that I
watched. So I had to sneak a lot of the
content that I watched and listened to.
So yeah. So like like this, this
discovering like horror movies for the first time was it might
have been like at a sleepover ata friend's house or something
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like that where we watched something that I wasn't supposed
to watch. Do you remember the first one
you watched? I don't think I do, to be honest
with you, no. I remember Chris, I think the
first one I watched was on Friday the 13th and it wasn't
even like the first one. I think it was like Part 3.
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OK. So I didn't know for years, for
like a long time, that Jason wasn't in the first one.
Oh yeah, OK, it's his mom's the killer, right?
Correct. Yeah.
I had no clue because the first ones I saw I want to say it was
3 then I saw 2456. I don't think I saw one for a
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long time, like maybe till I waslike maybe 20.
Damn. OK.
So I never knew that that like the first one didn't have Jason
in it. Did you ever you saw Part 1
right? Yeah, I've seen all of them.
Yeah, so for years I never knew he wasn't in the first one.
Well, I guess till the. End of that.
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Yeah, I'm with you. Because I don't remember seeing
Part 1 right away. Like it might have been like
honestly my first one might havebeen was Jason X or the one
where he goes to space. OK, Yeah.
Yeah, it's like a fucking ridiculous movie, but I, I
didn't really, I watched the Friday the 13th movies until
then, so I had no idea. I'm familiar with the Jason
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character, but I didn't really watch it.
I think maybe one of the 1st movies I or horror movies I've
watched would be the Poltergeistmovies.
They, they had, they had a big impact on me.
Like it was the one of the 1st movies I watched that
legitimately scared the shit outof me as a child.
That's a good one. That's a good.
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Let me ask you, have you ever thought about going to look at
like, I get, I want to say memorabilia, but that's not the
right word for it, like like thethe Halloween house or the
Poltergeist house and stuff likethat.
I guess these tours that they have for those places or the
Amityville House, that's a good one.
No, because at this point it gets like the someone's living
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in the Amityville house, you know, so they, it's been changed
up enough times where it doesn'thave the same vibe and feel to
it. You know, if, if they left these
places abandoned and left for the, the nature to let them
decay and make them even creepier than what they were in
the movies, it might be something to observe.
You know, like I'm all for goingthrough haunted houses and all
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that shit, but yeah, I, I don't,I don't know about going to like
a Poltergeist movie tour or anything like that.
Yeah, let me, let me ask you this then.
What is the weirdest place you went to in the name of horror?
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I don't know, I mean, not reallyany weird places.
Like I've spent the nights in cemeteries before.
That's a weird place. Yeah, but it's not weird 'cause
it's, you know, like when you think a horse like horror in
cemeteries go hand in hand. So it's not that big.
I guess spending the night in a cemetery is creepy, but you
know, I used to go to a lot of abandoned buildings and rundown
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warehouses and shit for fun but it was never in what I I never
went on any ghost hunting expeditions or anything like
that. OK, so I might have you beat
them because when I was younger I went to the Museum of Death in
Hollywood. Oh OK, you lucky fuck.
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Yeah, my brother took me there. And for those who don't know,
the Museum of Death is this museum that's in Hollywood.
I think it's in Hollywood. I want to say it's in New
Orleans. But what it is, is it's a Museum
of serial killer shit, of serialkiller shit and stuff for
murders, like actual, like crimescene photos, actual weapon that
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was used in crime, in crimes andmurders, like just everything
you could think of. And it was like super fast and
just going through this place and seeing all these things,
these instruments of death. I don't know why my brother took
me here. I guess he just like, hey, this
is what Hollywood has to offer, come check it out.
It was just such a fascinating thing to just go through and
just walk around seeing all. I think, I can't remember when
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it was all there, but it was just a lot of stuff from
different serial killers and telling the stories behind it
and listening to the stories. It was just like a really cool
thing to do. See that?
That would be something for me to go check out.
What got to go to Hollywood? Yeah, I know.
That's the thing. I don't want to read with you.
I need to go back to Hollywood. Well, Hollywood, CA anyway, so.
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Hell yeah, I'm down. I'm down do that.
See, I, I, I've, I was, I guess like the closest thing to
anything like that would be likeon the waiting list for Mckamey
Manor. Are you familiar with that?
Oh, you got to tell about Mckamey Manor.
OK, so Mckamey Manor is AI, don't know if he's still doing
it anymore, but it's a submersive haunted house
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experience. But it's not like your standard
haunted house. This is where like they abduct
you out of nowhere and essentially torture you for 8
hours in violent, horrific ways.And people sign up for the
experience. And I've, I, I always thought
it'd be something like, Oh yeah,let's see how long you can
survive in something like this. So I put I put myself on the
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checklist for it. Well, they actually torture you.
Yeah, like they, there's a YouTube channel for it.
Like you can, you can watch whatthey do to you, but they, they
water board you. They, I've seen them like shave
heads with axle grease and like sharp metal objects.
And they, they, they torture youwith any sort of horrific ways
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they can for an extended period of time.
And the goal is to see how long you could last in it.
And I thought it was a fascinating idea because that's
the way that I see the future ofhaunted houses progressing.
Wow, I'm looking at this right now.
I didn't know this was a thing. Yeah, it's it's a fascinating
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story. Like the guy is a total creep.
Like he I think he does it for like 6 or sadistic, like sexual
purposes, like he gets off on the torture.
But it's still an interesting idea, and I think he's a pioneer
in what's what is gonna be the future in haunted housing.
Yeah, I'm looking at. I'm on the website right now.
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Looks pretty crude to say the least, but let me see what it.
OK, I'm going to read what theirwebsite says so people don't get
an ideal over there. Be warned, McKinney Manor is not
your standard Boo haunted house.This is an audience
participation event in which youwill live your own horror movie.
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This is a rough, intense and truly frightening experience.
You must be in great health to participate.
Last year's hunt was absolutely nothing compared to the new
McKinney Manor new. I guess they update the website
because it says 20/20/23 New for2023, Mccamry Manor presents
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Descent, the next evolution of interactive survival horror
theater. Understand that our tool will be
based upon different your personal fears and can last up
to six hours. Each guest will be mentally and
physically challenged until you reach your personal breaking
point. Yeah, you have.
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You have to have, you have to have a psychological evaluation
before you can participate in this to make sure that you're
mentally prepared for it. And you have to have a physical
to make sure your your body is physically able to handle what
you're about to endure. It's intense.
Yeah, this is wild. They like they you gotta like
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I'm looking at the requirements 21 and above or 18 to 21 parents
approval completed sports physical and doctor's level
letter stating that you're physically and mentally cleared.
Pass a background clearance check by a medical professional.
I can't even read all this because their their website is
like terrible. They have like this file over
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that's really bad. It says be screened via FaceTime
or phone, proof of medical insurance, sign a detailed 40
page waiver and pass a portable drug screening day of the show.
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That is wild. Yeah, and it's free.
All you got to do is give the guy like 4 cans of dog food and
you're you're in. That's what you have to give
him. Yeah, that's all he wants, his
dog food. That is wild.
Apparently they have something it says they have.
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It's on Netflix. Yeah, there've been a there've
been several documentaries made around the guy.
He's been in the the subject of multiple lawsuits that surround
this whole thing. He's been shut down numerous
times and had to relocate. Oh, this is fascinating.
For those who want to check it out, the show that's on Netflix
that talks about this is called Dark Tourists.
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Yep, it's now streaming on Netflix.
It's episode 8. So if you want to see McKinney
Manor is and you are sick fuck who's interested in going like
me and Brandon, here's your chance and go check it out and
get an idea of what you're goingthrough.
So now I also am going to look at this and see what this is all
about because this looks fascinating.
Yeah, it's not something I'd want to do anymore necessarily,
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but I was like, I, I, I believe in what he's doing.
I think it's a great idea, you know, because haunted houses are
getting stale and dull and repetitive at this point.
They need to be ramped. Everything needs to be ramped up
a notch for being too desensitized from movies and
whatnot. So why not kick things up a
notch if you're willing to participate?
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I actually do think it's actually a great idea when you
consider, you know, to be to be truthful about the manner.
If you consider all the things people pay for, that's not
horror. Let's say like, no, not the king
shame enough like that, but theypay for BDMSM or things like
that. This kind of feels a little bit
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like that, but horror like when they're going to torture you,
they're going to put you throughmental and physical anguish and
pain and stuff like that. So, but you know, I guess as a
fan of horror, that's part of the journey through horror, I
think people like the aspects ofbeing scared and the endorphins
that it brings to you. And I think this is close to the
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line, but not the line. Yeah, it's, it's tiptoeing
around the edges of it, that's for sure.
Yeah, it definitely is. But you know, I think the whole
I think the concept is brilliant.
Like, you know, the six hours isa lot, but I'm I'm assuming
based off what I'm reading you could tap out at any time.
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Well, and that's where the controversy lies, because no,
you can't. Like.
He, they, they, they, they set up safe words and whatnot that
they give you. But there have been numerous
times where they've ignored all that.
Oh, see, that's a different problem then.
But that's part of the experience, though.
Like that. Like, what's more horrifying
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than thinking that it's going toend and it doesn't?
That is actually really true. That's that's a fascinating way
to look at it. It's a fascinating thing and
it's it's free. Which Which?
Which adds to the theory that this guy's doing it for some
sick, sadistic pleasure that he's getting out of it.
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He has to be because and also I think it's kind of brilliant
that it's free because if it's free, you can't sue him.
Like you're not paying for the experience, not all the.
What are you going to get out ofit, honestly?
Yeah, you're not paying for the experience, you're signing the
waiver. So it's like a lot harder to
assume if you're not paying for it and you volunteer for it.
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Kind of smart. Now think about it.
Kind of smart. So let's talk about Gore House a
little bit more. How many episodes you have,
Brandon? How many episodes you got so
far? Or five episodes in. 5 episodes
in this Mystery Science Theater 3000.
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But with horror, which I think Ilike the concept of it.
Who are some of the people you want to have on the show that
you have not had on yet? Oh, and who's your dream guest,
by the way? I don't really have a dream
guest at this point. I, I've been doing this
podcasting thing long enough to know like that more
realistically who I can and can't book on these type of
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shows. Like so yeah, that'd be funny as
all hell. I I guess like some of my, the
locales that I cover on the worst of would be fun to have
just just for the content out ofthat to see how they handle
things. But I don't know.
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I think it'd be great to get thepeople in our inner circle back
on the show. Carl from WATP, Adam Bush, who's
had who has experience in movies, he, you know, he's an
actor and whatnot. So it'd be great to have his
perspective on stuff. You know, like there are plenty
of people that I'd like to see come on and go through these
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terrible movies with us. Got.
Some good points. What movies you think you want
to do then which ones you looking at like this is what I
would really want to get. To the The list is ever growing.
Delvin Like, there's like every time I see a new trailer for
something, I, I, I have to debate whether or not it's
worthy enough to be put onto theshow list.
Well, the, The funny thing aboutthe episode that we did was, and
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I, I appreciate I found it funny.
We changed what we were going totalk about.
We were going to watch like at least four times.
Yeah, because every time I suggested a movie, you had said
you'd watched it already, and I don't want to do that to you.
I either watched it and then bred like there's another one I
kind of would have watched too, so let's go with this one.
I'm like, all right, let's go for it because I know the Mickey
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Mouse one was the one I wanted to watch.
There was two of them. There was Star Trap, which I
saw, which I did not like. And it was this one Steamboat
Mickey that I didn't see. I knew about it, I didn't see
and I was very surprised at the direction they went with Mickey.
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Oh it was great. Like they turned him into this
weird rat looking monster and they couldn't keep his size
proportions right at all so he kept changing size.
This, that was the perfect way for people who are listening
right now. If you want to get an idea, if
you want to pick an episode, I'mnot.
I'm not saying this because I'm on the episode.
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If you want to get a concept of what this show is, go check out
that episode with episode that'sepisode 2 or 3.
Four there. You go.
It's episode 4 of Gore Hounds. It's me, Jodie B, who everybody
knows that motherfucker Jodie B and Brandon watching.
No one. It's red.
What do we talk about? It's red, yeah.
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It's Red, the other white guy. I know I said Jodie because he
was asking me that. I'll do damn something.
Yeah, it's good. But yeah, it's me, Red and
Brandon watching Mickey murder people.
The Disney Princesses, of all people.
Yes, that was the funny part about the cool thing about this
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show is completely interactive. If you want to watch this movie
like like just much like MysteryScience did 3000, you can sit
there and essentially be watching it with us.
And I love that aspect of it. It's like sitting in there with
your friends watching a horror movie and just getting your
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jokes here. It's a fun experience, the fun
time we do it. I recommend people watch the
show. If you know Brandon, hop on the
show. Absolutely, yeah.
I'm I'm looking to have anyone and everyone like if you're
interested in watching cheesy horror movies, if you've got
suggestions for us, I'm all for it.
Yeah, this is a fun show to be on.
This is shitty Song of the week is a very funny show to be on.
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But you know, you got to have, you got to have a little bit of
music experience. You got to know a little bit
about music, a little bit, just a little bit.
Not much gore hounds. You just got to be a fan of
movies. Yep, and who isn't a fan of
movies? Selvin.
Yes, everybody's a fan of movies.
You gotta just be a fan of movies.
Be willing to watch a movie, A free movie.
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By the way, you're watching the movie for free.
Yeah. And we're we're going to start
going live in the next couple ofweeks.
I'm looking forward to doing that.
So we can't really stream it on YouTube because of copyright
issues. So right now, right now we're
just limited to Spotify and Rumble at the time being, but
we're going to be streaming liveon Twitter and whatnot.
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So we're looking to get more audience participation involved
in these episodes so people can watch the movies with us in real
time, comment in real time, we can interact with each other,
make it a great experience for everyone.
I gotta tell you this, Brittany,I think this is a brilliant
idea. I appreciate it.
One thing about Brandon, and I'mgoing to give you credit, I'll
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give you props right now. Brandon is a super creative
dude, especially when it comes to like podcasting and ideas
like that. He's come up with several ideas
for shows, all vastly different and all of them for some reason
work or have a good connection and get feel to it.
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If you look at see the song of the week, you look at this one.
I like the trajectory that you go with shows and how you do
your shows and how you build upon the shows and how you can
just even the locale show. They are all vastly different
and unique ideas that you brought to the table, and I kind
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of commend that. I appreciate that, Delvin.
Yeah, you put in your work. So before we go, Brandon, you
know the people want it. You got to tell one of your wild
stories, Sir. I don't have any more at this
point, man. I've I've, I've died down at
this point like I'm a I'm. A sober up on us A family man
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has his handsome son, his beautiful wife.
Just living your life now. Yeah, exactly.
Like I've calmed down. I'm an I'm an old man.
Those wild days are long behind me at this point.
Well, I will say this thing. I am happy that you felt your
inner peace. You look happier, you feel
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health, you look healthier, You look like you're in a good
place. I appreciate.
And I think the people who've watched this show from the first
time you've been on to now will find great happiness and great
solace and knowing that, hey, wewatched him from when he was
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low, when he was high, when he'shigh and low to now.
And we've seen the growth, we'veseen the maturity.
We've seen you in a good time. We've seen your bad times and we
see you now. And we know that you're in a
good place. And I'm happy to say if this was
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your last time coming on here, which is definitely not, it's
good that people get to see you like this.
Well, that's always good to hear.
Yeah, I think, I think you're knocking it out the park, buddy.
Thank you. So any other things you want to
say before we go? No, this has been great, man.
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I really appreciate coming on. Like, it's always a blast coming
on this show and getting to talkto you, Delvin.
Yeah. And I appreciate that each time
you come on, you bring somethingdifferent, but it's and unique.
I was going to break, I mean, itwas going to would have been way
off topic, but I wanted to know what you were thinking of
Kanye's latest music. Oh me and Jody is with argued
(56:38):
about this for. I'm not talking about the
Cousins song because I don't. No, not that one.
I don't buy in the cousin I bothbullshit.
We both universally agree that song sucks.
Well, I think that's a troll song.
I don't. I don't buy into the legitimacy
of it at all. I think it's a fake.
That's a good point. That could be a troll song.
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We were talking about his Kyle. Hitler.
Yes, his. His Nazi anthem that people
that's apparently people are going crazy over.
It's a masterpiece, Delvin, whatare you talking about?
It is awful and and it makes me more mad annoyed by it that
people are taking it and making their own verses of it.
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They are just as bad. I've heard so many different
like takes on that song and I was going to bring a couple of
them tonight for us to go through.
Like there's a country one that's hysterical.
I. Didn't hear the Country 1 yet.
Yeah, it's, it's pretty damn good.
But yeah, I I the song itself isn't great, but the you got to
admit that the hook is incredibly catchy for what it
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is. Yeah.
And that's what that's what draws everyone into it.
And it's like I I'm surprised tosee how many white people it's
entitled them to like, say the Nword.
Yes, that's the most fascinatingthing about this song that
people, well, one, people are saying how Hitler and they're
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just saying it like they're like, you know, that's something
we say that I know it's 2025, but it's something that we just
openly sang in a song like I don't give a fuck.
Like they're like, there are places that you can't even like
in Germany, you can't do none ofthat shit.
Nope. Like this that's like illegal
they they're fucking up over that and we just like go on the
Internet just singing how Hitlerjust singing the N word like
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this. What we're doing like alright,
alright 2025. This is a a wild year to say the
least. Like.
I'm here for it. I don't know about you.
I feel, I feel like we're on theTitanic.
We're just alone for the ride. I feel like we're on the Titanic
and we're not one of the rich white folks.
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We're like the poor people that like fucked at the bottom of the
show. Like, Oh yes, we ain't got the
life raft. We just fucked.
We just long for the ride. But have we hit the iceberg yet,
Alvin? We're right there.
We're staring at it. We, we are the people.
We're telling, hey, I might wantto move for the iceberg.
And they're like, Nah, Nah, it'sfine.
It's fine. We'll be out here.
That little thing, it's not going to do anything.
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This, this boat is unsinkable. We'll be fine.
Yep, that's what, that's what we're doing.
We're telling, we're telling thepeople that you probably should
move the boat. And they're like, no, not at
all. We're not moving.
And that's what 2025 has been like so far.
We can, if we can describe 2025 in a nutshell, it is.
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We are the people on the Titanictelling the people you should
move. There's icebergs there and
they're like, Nah, we're good. And we're just watching us
slowly go to that iceberg. Yeah, but I'm here for it,
Delvin. I'm.
I'm excited to see it all come crashing down before my eyes.
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Yes, one more thing before we go.
I just thought about it UI Ball.Well, I haven't heard that name
in a long time. Do you plan on watching any of
his movies? Yeah, I'm all for it.
Like he has some of the worst movies that are out there and he
gets so pissed off when people make fun of them.
(01:00:17):
'Cause he has a couple of horrormovies.
Remember correctly. Yes, he does.
I think Blood the Blood Rain series is horror movies, so you
probably can do those. Yeah, and I think isn't Rampage.
Wouldn't those be considered? Yes.
So yeah, you you got some content.
Yeah, you, you. A bull gets pissed off whenever
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you make fun of any of his shit,so I'm all for that.
He really does. His movies are fucking.
Terrible. There's a worst you.
Know awful. I don't he he's he's like
legendarily bad. Yeah, he's right up there with
Neil Breen. Yes, so I can't wait till till
we get on that Ooey Ball slander.
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Hell yeah. All right, let them notify you
that, Brandon. Let them notify Gorehounds that.
Well you can check out Gorehounds on Spotify and Rumble
whenever episodes come out. Follow us on X over at worst of
pod. I only have the one social media
for now but other than that that's that's about it man,
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thanks for having me on. My pleasure brother.
Oh, let me ask you this before we go.
What episodes of Gore House you have out right now so people can
go check them out? There's Popeye the Slayer, Man
Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey, 2, Peter Pan's Neverland,
Nightmare, Scream Boat, and I believe shopping Mall.
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Shopping mall? Yeah, you did watch that one.
Yeah, it's a it's a classic 80s horror movie.
I think I've heard that. I haven't watched that one now,
so yeah, you got some homework, guys.
Go check out these Gorehounds episodes.
Matter of fact, Brandon, give methe link so I can put these.
No, obviously I have to record, get drop.
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Send me the link so I can put these in the show notes.
Absolutely. All right.
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Thank you. Welcome to the Delvin Cox
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Experience, the podcast which each week I'm on a one man
mission to you now that comes todiversity.
I'm your host, Delvin Cox, and with me on the podcast, someone
who has been on here a long time, but he's on here off on a
lot, let's say the least. My boy, my brother Brandon Fish.
How you doing bro? I'm doing well, Delvin.
Thanks for having me back on. Always a pleasure, bro.
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It's always a good time when you're you bring the wild
stories, you bring the interesting facts to fiction.
Everything that's going on, the stories about serial killers.
We got so many classic Brandon stories here, man.
We can make a whole compilation of it.
Excellent. That's what I like to hear.
Perfect. As always, let's start the
podcast off with the five for five.
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Five questions, 5 answers. Get the ball, roll the Brandon.
Are you ready? Let's get into it.
Question #1 Who is your favoritefictional serial killer?
That's a tough one. I mean, really is.
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I mean, I guess currently I'm gonna have to go with Ark the
Clown from the Terrifier series.That's a good one.
Yeah, I think it's it's just because the body counts
impressive. The kills are ridiculous and
over the top and entertaining. So it it just makes it worth
investing in. I appreciate that you went like,
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well I guess he's supernatural now.
Supernatural elements of it. I like that answer a lot 'cause
he is a serial killer. In my head I went Dexter Morgan.
OK. Because, you know, because he's
a serial killer. But you know, you does it for
the right reasons. Quote UN quote.
Yeah, one of them vigilante serial killers.
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Until he doesn't. But yeah, that's a great answer.
Art the Clown. So question #2 since we're going
to get into this, is that you mention Art the Clown one is
your favorite low budget horror film?
Man, you, you really know how tobring the tough questions to
this show. I guess you've been doing it
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long enough. You, you know, a thing or two,
but a little bit let's, let's see low budget.
Yeah. I think.
The first terrifier counts, I don't know the the rest I don't
think counts, but the first one definitely counts.
I think I'm going to have to go with a It's a haunted house
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movie called We Are Still Here. OK.
It's super low budget indie movie that got some success.
It's it's a really bloody, gory fun time, but it's not like a
over the top comedic movie. It's just a really ultraviolent
haunted house film. OK, I might check that one out
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then. That sounds pretty interesting.
All right, question #3 let's go.Guilty pleasure movies.
Because, yeah, people notice there's a trend here.
What's a movie that you like, but you don't want to tell
people that you like it? Oh man, I don't know, 'cause I'm
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I'm. So I'm I'm very picky about.
But see, that's the that's the fun thing about this question.
You can take this question two ways.
You can take it as a movie that's everybody knows it's
terrible that you like or knowing you.
I think this is appropriate. A movie that you know, that's
just so dark and just depraved, but you like it and you're like,
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maybe I should let people know Ilike this movie.
A good example of this, a good example of this my friend, and
you might want to check this movie out.
He like he he recommended this movie to me called The Coffee
Table. OK.
And he didn't tell me anything about it and once I got to
report like what the fuck are you recommending me because it's
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super dark. You might like it, so I just I
will pass it on to you. This movie called The Coffee
Table. Check that out.
I don't want to tell you think about it.
Just go in and watch it. I guess it's it's label.
I think I want to say is label adark comedy slash horror almost,
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but it's reality based. That's why I'll leave it at.
OK, as far, I don't really thinkI have any guilty pleasure
movies, but if we're going to goweird, dark, twisted, whatever,
I'm gonna have to give credit toTusk, the Kevin Smith movie.
That's a good one. Yeah, I, it's, it's original as
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fuck. I like the idea that it's based
around a podcast episode and it,you know, it turned it into an
act like from an idea to an actual movie.
It's considered a horror comedy,but there's nothing really funny
about it. It's just a dark, weird,
demented horror film and the ending is super fucked up.
I enjoy that. So yeah, I think I'm going to go
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with Tusk. I think Tusk, yeah, Kevin Smith
has a a huge catalog of movies. I think people will probably say
they hit or miss. Absolutely.
If you like Kevin Smith movies, you did Kevin Smith movies, but
if you don't, you're like, alright.
But Tusk is one of those that one and Red State are the 2
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ones. I'm like, you know what?
I actually enjoy these movies a lot.
I agree, I I think he's a much better horror director than he
is a comedic director. I agree because they are super
dark and messed up. It's like wow we know Tev, we
know Kev Smith is like a light hearted funny fun loving person.
But RedState, Tusk, and even Dogma for that matter are super
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dark films. Right.
I kind of dig it. All right, we're on question #4
right? I believe so.
I. Remember correctly.
Question #4 Let me ask you this.Jim Jones.
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We know you love Jim Jones. Do you think it's ever possible
for us to get a modern version of what he did?
Absolutely, absolutely. I mean, you know, especially
with social media being the way it is and people, people
following people the way they do, you know, it's only, it's
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only a matter of time before we start hearing about major cults
that are focused around like Twitter and Facebook and
whatnot. And like it's I, I could see
another Jim Jones type in the works.
Maybe the body count won't be asmassive as 900 or and so, but I
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could definitely see it happening.
Yeah, I agree. I think hold on one second,
Brandon, you're good yes, yeah, I think you're kind of right
based off of what our society isthat how influential social
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media is to many people. I think we can easily see a well
we're. It just takes 1 charismatic
person with a decent following online to it.
It you see it all the time with people it take it takes nothing
nowadays. I was going to kind of say,
yeah, you kind of see that with like people like Andrew Tate,
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our current president, you know,like, well, I was different
people. We're kind of getting that.
I don't think it's to the, well,maybe it is with certain things.
It's not to the level of Jim Jones, Rick the Kool-aid yet,
but it's eerily close in some circumstances.
It's only a matter of time, Delvin, that's all.
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Yeah, I kind of agree. Question #5 this is going to be
a dark question. Oh, really?
Dark question. The question I probably
shouldn't even ask. Oh well, now you got to.
Now I have to ask this question.I'm gonna ask this question.
I know my audience. My audience being you, if there
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was one event that you could have been there to watch as an
observer, just to figure out like, hey, what's going on here?
Not that like, you know, chill shit on, obviously, but just to
watch it, it's OK. I get to know what happens in
this situation. What event are you going to sit
down for? OK, that's interesting.
So I'm just like a family on thewall for a dark moment in
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history. Correct.
OK, I'm gonna have to go with anobserver at unit 731.
Are you familiar with 731? No, I'm not.
I'm all in now. OK, so Unit 731 was a Japanese
laboratory, I guess, or internment camp that they they
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took prisoners of war and conducted horrifying experiments
on them. Oh shit.
Yeah, sort of like, like, you know, live, live divis sections
with surgery without anesthesia,like a lot of frozen amputations
and just fucked up, like just for the sake of seeing what can
be done to the human body. And you know what?
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What was this? This was during World War 2.
Wow I I have never heard of this.
That's. You should take a look into it.
Just it. Just Google Unit 731.
There's a lot of fascinating information on it.
They've made a couple horror films.
Men Behind the Sun that's based on Unit 731.
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Definitely worth the watch. It's I, I guess I haven't heard
of it because, you know, I follow history, but not to the
degree that other people do it, obviously so.
But when you, when people talk about World War 2, they, they,
they, they talk about the hit, they talk about Hitler and the
things he's doing. So you hear about the atrocities
that he's committed. So when you hear about stuff
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like Unit 731, right? You don't hear about that stuff
as often. It's like I said, you know, you
when people, especially in America, when people talk about
like World War 2, they talk about two things really.
They talk about Hitler and the atrocities he committed.
They didn't talk about, you know, the atom bomb, that that's
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what people really bring up. Like this is what stopped the
war. This is what happened.
US came in, dropped the bomb, and that kind of killed
everything off as American history says it.
So I think it's kind of interesting here the other story
that maybe people don't know about.
Yeah. And like I'm, I'm fascinated
with the the darkest in human nature.
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You know, it's, it's always interesting to me to see the,
the depths of depravity that people will go to.
So something like that, just, itwould intrigue me.
I will say this, I don't, I don't think I'm necessarily into
it, but it always fascinates me at the levels human beings go to
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do things to other human beings.I don't think people really
understand the severity of it. And what I mean by that is, like
you, we we live in America. And in America, no matter how
bad it it gets right now, we still in Atlanta.
Privilege. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. But when you look at what goes
on in other countries and see how they, like, torture people
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and how crimes get committed andthings like you, like you look
like these. This is not normal, but this is
something that goes on these people's everyday life.
Like when you hear the stories like cartels chopping up bodies
or governments taking away people and they're never being
seen again or hear the stories of like Guantanamo Bay and
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things like that. You're like, wow, this these,
these are things that are going on outside of what we know.
And I think that is fascinating that we are, as a country,
woefully blind to that type of stuff.
Yeah, let me, let me ask you, David, since they were on this
subject. OK.
What? What would you like?
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I want to know what you would want to observe.
Put this shit around the other way.
There's a lot of things I want to know about just for like, I
guess, so I can know like the great mysteries of like the
world. OK.
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Like and it yeah, the dark 1 waslike a good, a good example of
that is I wouldn't mind, I know,I know this is dark.
It's really dark. I wouldn't mind being there for
Jesus crucifixion. OK.
Just just for the simple fact ofknowing, OK, it actually did
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happen that well, right? Did this to prove that it was
what it was. That it existed, it happened.
So seeing the crucifixion, the resurrection, I think will be a
really interesting thing to justsee, to see, I guess culturally,
I think on a darker note. But see, I don't know if I want
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to see this because I feel like it would make me upset.
Like, furious, furious upset. Because the first thing that
came to my mind is the burning of Black Wall Street.
OK. Do you know the story about
that? I'm not too familiar now.
Oh, yeah. What what happened was back in
segregation time, there was thiscommunity of black people.
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They kind of like, you know, they were, they went out on
thriving. They were, they were not only
surviving, they were thriving. They made it like community, I
can't remember exactly where it was at, but they made this
community that was thriving withthe Black people's open up black
businesses. They was it was a super
successful community. Something happened.
Young boy gets accused of rapinga white woman.
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Then essentially the, for lack of a better term, the Klan comes
burns down the whole town. OK.
Killing everyone there, children, women, everyone for a
rape that did not happen. They just kind of did it because
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the town, just because in the town was super successful in a
time where they didn't think black people can make a town
that was super successful. This was the time, one of the
times in history when you see black people just actually
getting together, building theirown communities and making
something out of it. And I think that's a
fascinating, that's a fascinating and heartbreaking
thing to see and knows like damn, this was a time in history
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where black people were actuallylike doing something and making
something like special for them.And I would love to see how does
that look like this black community that was just being
super successful. It's just a tragic story of how
that would, how they just how they destroyed it like in one
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day. Like there's a lot of stories
like that in history that peoplejust don't know about that
happened. They were like a lot of
communities, like when they started segregation, the whole
idea was supposed to be that these black communities would
not prosper. And it was actually quite the
opposite. It was a lot.
A big part of that was motivation that these
communities like, you know, because they went from nothing
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to a is, you still have nothing,but you can make something of
yourself with it. It gave them the motivation to
thrive for better. And because, frankly speaking,
the white counterparts in that area who are, who are also poor,
didn't have that and didn't havethe community elements.
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They got jealous. And they just said, we're going
to we're going to take it, we'regoing to destroy it.
And that's kind of what happened.
It's, it's a sad story. It's a shocking story, but it's
it's a dark part of American history that a lot of people
just don't talk about. OK, well I could see that being
a fascinating thing to observe for a brief period.
Yeah, if you if you have HBO Max, the Watchman TV show, which
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is a weird thing, actually showsit.
I think it's a Watchman TV show.Yeah, they show parts of it, OK.
They talk about it. It's like a plot point in the
show, really good, really interesting thing to look at.
But if, if, if we're not too much so that's going to make me
mad. JFJFKS assassination, which
we've already seen, would be interesting to see in person.
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Just like if I could get the whole scope, the whole field of
vision. Oh, OK.
I thought you were like, I want to be in the driver's seat like
like that close observing. Like, if I can get the whole
field of Vigilant, OK, this is where the shot came from, from
that building. That guy shot it.
It didn't ricochet in Atlanta. Let me just see what exactly
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happened 'cause there's so many stories about what happened, how
the shot came off and where the bullet came from.
I'll be super fascinated to see actually who actually pulled the
trigger. Yeah, but we're at a point in
history, like, does it matter anymore?
Like, didn't they just, like, find, like, reveal the identity
of Jack the Ripper not that longago?
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And it's like a who gives a shit?
Yeah, they did do that. I was, I was fascinated by that.
I'll just, it's just one of those things that I guess I
would just like to know, to know, I guess there's a there's
a lot of things I would like there.
Like I would like to know, like what really happened tonight
with OJ and Nicole Brown Simpson, apparently, like when
Nicole Brown Simpson got murdered.
But we know what happened. We know what happened, but look,
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I would like to know exactly thestory behind it because there's
been so many stories about that.Yeah.
I guess, I guess my fascination is, is with exactly the, what
happened in the situation as opposed to the actual incident,
like what made it get to here. And, you know, and plus there's
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also like a lot of historical things that I would like to see
in terms of like even death, like David and Goliath, you
know, 'cause I don't know if people know this, but the events
in the, in the Bible, they are like proof that certain things
in the Bible actually did happen.
It may not happen the way they said it happened, but they're,
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they're like events that are like been documented by
historians. Oh, this actually did happen.
Like there was like, 'cause I, Idon't watch a lot of documentary
on stuff like that. Like Jesus was actually a
person. Now, whether he did whatever
they said he did either here northere, we don't.
It could be debated. But scientists and historians
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say he was actually a person andthis and this happened and
things like that. So I always find that stuff
interesting and fascinating to see.
I like to know the history of things and stuff, just find out
about things. It's fascinating to me.
See, you want to watch the development of stuff, whereas I
am ready to watch it all burn. Well, that's awesome.
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We're watching it now, Brandon. We're we're living that time
now. Brandon, you won out that
battle, I guess you could say. So, Brandon, how's it been
going, buddy? Excuse me?
It's going good. You know, things are things are
picking or picking back up around home, you know, with the
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family and whatnot, getting ready for summer and shit and
doing good with the shows and whatnot.
So yeah. You got a new show.
Yeah, I'm excited about it. Gore Hounds.
So let people know all about it.Who hasn't know about it?
I was on the episode of Gore Hounds and I was excited to be
on. It's a great episode actually.
Yeah, it's OK. So it's it's kind of like a
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movie review show that you watchthe movie in real time with us
as we're reviewing it. So you get the chance to
participate and you'll leave your comments and thoughts on
everything too. It's it's a great experience for
everyone who likes to enjoy cheesy horror movies.
We specify in cheesy horror. I I dig it and I like the fact
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that because Brandon, when Brandon asked me to be on it, he
didn't know that I like horror movies and cheesy horror movies
at that. So I was super happy and excited
to be on it. It was fun.
We watch Popeye the Slayer, man,no.
We watch screen boat. We watch Screen Boat, that's the
one we watch. I watch Popeye the Slayer Man by
myself. Yeah, that, that was our first
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episode, was Popeye. Yes, but yeah, we watch Screen
Boat, which was an interesting film to watch.
I kind of dig what. Let me ask you, what do you
think of this whole thing that these creators are doing now
when they just take an IP where the rights are going on it now?
They just make. What do you think of that whole
process now? I personally love it like I, I,
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I do too. I don't expect greatness out of
them, but that's what makes these movies so great in the
long run. Like the, the, especially when
they're not throwing major budgets at them.
So you can, you know, you get a lot of practical effects.
The kills are over the top and great.
The stories are ridiculous and absurd, but who gives a shit
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about that? You know, like the the Winnie
the Pooh, Blood and Honey movies.
They've been really well done. The the first one wasn't great,
but they gave it a second chanceand that was that was a
brilliant movie, I thought. Yeah, the second one was really
good, I thought actually. Yeah, I'm, I'm a fan of these
public domains. I want more of them like I want,
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I want to see like other characters that you wouldn't
expect because I, I don't, I don't Now it makes me wonder
what exactly is up for grabs, you know?
Yeah, I was talking to myself about this update because he was
asking the question like, why dothey keep making these movies?
I'm like, well the answer is simple because they.
Can. Because they can and because
it's a, it's AIP that people know.
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So as long as you can get a cheap budget, you can make a
movie that people would know thecharacter and probably be
willing to go see for a cheap amount and probably make a
profit off of it just because, OK, it's a Mickey Mouse movie.
Mickey is a Mickey Mouse horror movie.
And people would go see it just out of intrigue and stuff like
that. And you probably made it for
like what couple $100,000 and you probably make like twice
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that much, maybe a million. I got a little butter honey.
Did I think that's a really coolthing to kind of just make these
movies if you're an unknown director and kind of have an
already built in fan base. What I'm what I'm fascinated in
about This is why are all of them choosing to make horror
movies? I'm assuming because it's cheap
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to make horror movies. But like for example, if I have
if because when we just talk about Popeyes license is free to
use now. Yep.
Why not just make a Popeye movie?
Well, they've done that with Robin Williams and you know, no
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one wants to. No, who wants to see a Popeye
movie like a serious Popeye movie nowadays?
Like a love story between Popeyeand olive oil And who gives a
fuck? You want to see these characters
do things that they haven't donebefore and something that you
wouldn't expect them to do. Like Winnie the Pooh is a
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wholesome, lovable character meant for children that you
would never expect to go on a murderous rampage.
But it's great to watch happen. I agree.
And, and the cool thing about that movie in particular is that
it seems like that first one andthat second one was so good or
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so popular. No one else is trying to make
Winnie the Pooh Movies Now. No.
And they're, they're creating anentire universe around that
Winnie the Pooh. Like there's a the Peter Pan's
Neverland nightmare that just came out.
It's that's it's a great movie, definitely worth checking out,
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but that's also connected to theWinnie the Pooh universe and the
Bambi movie that's coming out inJuly.
That's the same thing. They're all going to be
connected, like they're trying to make this great cinematic
universe where these characters all come together in like a
Freddy versus Jason style match,and I'm all for it.
I love that idea, by the way. I think that's actually a great
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idea. Like he's just like the you
know, what it reminds me of whenI when I look at these movies
and things like that, I think ofthe trauma verse, OK, and how,
you know, you had all these women like the toxic Avenger
nuke pie and all of them kind oflike connected together, but
they didn't. And I kind of dig that, that
that we're kind of getting back to making movies like the drama
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movies, but actually we're making drama's making more
Movies Now. Again, they got to.
Have you seen the trailer for the new Toxic Avenger?
I did. What do you think?
I think it looks decent, I'm personally hype for it.
I was very skeptical because like, I'm, you know, Peter
Dinklage as the Toxic Avenger. I wasn't too.
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Sure about me neither. But you know, Elijah Wood plays
a great villain and he's creepy as fuck, so I'm looking forward
to that and the the gorgeous looks over the top and well
done. So I'm I'm here for it.
That that was the thing that I was kind of worried about with
the Toxic Avenger movies, because, you know, all of them
are super gory, over the top. It's to the point where it's
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like it's comical. So you, you, you have to like
hit that element of it. And it seems like for the most
part, they're getting that. See, I, I got a different thing.
I I get the feeling that this isgoing to be a much more serious
take on the Toxic Avenger. I hope not I.
Don't know, I don't know. I kind of, I kind of like the
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idea of it getting a little darker than what the story
actually was. A little darker, not too darker.
When I hear it serious, a more serious thing, I usually think
of like, I don't know if you sawthis, but the remake of RoboCop.
Oh Yep, OK, I have. Yeah, where it kind of just
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watered down what RoboCop was. And like, this is this is OK,
this is a good acting film, but it's not RoboCop.
RoboCop the movie was like a parody of modern society and it
did it. It went over top, over the top
with his violence. Because there was a point in
kind of telling you, like this Ultraviolet society is not what
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we should be cheering, you know?And I, I kind of dig what
RoboCop the movie stood for. And the remake was none of that
stuff. So like this is not good.
Yeah, but that like that remake came in the time of bad remakes.
I feel like we're we're getting a sort of turn around now with
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certain movies where the remakesare actually something that's
worth taking a look at. OK, Yeah, I can.
I can go with that. What?
Well, what remakes you would youwant to see get made?
Damn dude. We got evil dead.
We got to evil. Is over, Delvin.
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We got 2 Evil Dead movies. Yeah, and they were pretty well
done, I'll give him that. I'd like to see another shot at
the Poltergeist movie franchise.Yeah, like I know they they did
it in 2015 or 16, something likethat.
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And that was kind of a cheesy soso, but I would like to see
another like shot at that, but amuch see more serious, darker,
more violent version of it 'cause I feel like there's a way
to make that an actual scary movie.
Hear me out, I think that would be a good movie for any director
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just to knockout the park with like a smaller director with a
smaller budget. I think they would kill a
Poltergeist movie. Sure, absolutely.
I want to go back. Go back to the practical
effects. Not like everything being CGI
'cause it's just doesn't look great.
Yeah, I don't like the CGI horror movies.
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It feels off. Right.
Well, let let. Me ask you this, since you're
doing gore house, what's your criteria for movies that you
want to pick? Like let's put this on the show.
Like what movies do you look at as like this needs to be on gore
house. Well, right now, I mean, we've
been on the public domain kick, so we, well, we're running out
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of those. So we're branching out and doing
other things like, like I said, they got to be horror movies
first. First off, the time, time span
doesn't matter. It could be from any era really.
We're open to whatever, preferably bloody movies like I
don't want. I don't want to watch like a
thriller kind of horror movie that doesn't really go anywhere.
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I'm not looking for slow burns. We want to watch like fast
action stuff. It's quick in your face and just
a bloody good time. There's a lot of good movies out
there. There's a lot of moves that came
out recently so that you can check out what I like about this
and like what I like about your show is there are so many indie
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horror films that come out. Like every week there's a new
indie horror film that comes out.
So you always have content. Oh, yeah, there's there, there's
always options for us to go through and there's like, like
I'm a, I'm a pirate Delvin. Like I'll, I got no problem
bootlegging movies and shit. So like you and I watched
Screenboat. That movie just came out, you
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know, like Peter Pan's NeverlandNightmare.
That was something that just came out in the UK, but it
wasn't even in the US yet when we did the episode.
Yes. So I got no problem finding the
newest of the new. I think it's a great idea.
I'm trying to find, I'm looking at my list right now, movies
I've watched something. What have you?
Have you watched in a violent nature yet?
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I haven't, no. That that one might be a good
one. You're watching Gore house.
I think you would like that one.It's a unique concept to it and
I think you would find fascinating.
OK. And it's an indie horror movie.
Is that one? If you want a funnier 1 Bagman.
OK, yeah, I've seen Bagman. That's a interesting take.
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Yeah, I, I, I like horror comedies too, you know, like I,
I, I'm a big fest. Especially the cheesier and
shittier they are, the better they end up being.
Like Killer Sofa and Lamageddon and whatnot.
Like things you would never expect.
I just found a attack of the Killer Donuts.
I just put that on the list of movies to watch.
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That's a that sounds fun. Yeah, exactly.
So let's let's get to the classic What are some of the
movies you as a kid that you like to watch like horror
movies? You know, like there wasn't as
much options as there were back.I mean, so obviously I'm gonna
say like the Halloween series, Nightmare on Elm Street, shit
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like that. Those classic slashers I liked,
I liked a lot of sci-fi movies, like sci-fi horror shit too.
And see, I don't know how to answer that.
Like I'm a I'm a I'm a big fan of found footage stuff.
So like Blair, Blair Witch, Area51, the Poughkeepsie tape, shit
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like that. OK, Because when I was growing
up, I was growing up around the era of like, you know, Friday
the 13th nightmare, of course. But there was also like, these
films that came out that were just a little bit off of
Hollywood's radar, like I Spit On Your Grave, Oh, yeah, those
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are great. Was one of them.
Hills have eyes, hills have awaycamp.
That's the way I was going to goto sleep away.
Camp was one that I, I remember very well because when I was a
kid, my uncle, he was in the army and when he came back, he
came back with a big giant case like a like one of those like I
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guess the a giant case full of full of movies.
But 60% of these movies were like horror movies, 20% action,
10% porn. But I remember like going
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through this case and finding movies like the Toxic Avenger,
sleep away camp and just fallingin love with these movies.
Nightmare on Elm Street and they're all just videotape, like
recorded a lot of movie theater,whatever it was.
And that's where my love for these horror movies came from.
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I was choking for a second. So to bring it back to you, I
wanted to ask you, did you have somebody in your family like
that who kind of brought you these horror movies and brought
you in the game? Was they knew it or not?
Not really. It was the sort of thing that I
stumbled onto myself, like my, my, my, my folks were a little
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protective when I was younger when it came to the shit that I
watched. So I had to sneak a lot of the
content that I watched and listened to.
So yeah. So like like this, this
discovering like horror movies for the first time was it might
have been like at a sleepover ata friend's house or something
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like that where we watched something that I wasn't supposed
to watch. Do you remember the first one
you watched? I don't think I do, to be honest
with you, no. I remember Chris, I think the
first one I watched was on Friday the 13th and it wasn't
even like the first one. I think it was like Part 3.
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OK. So I didn't know for years, for
like a long time, that Jason wasn't in the first one.
Oh yeah, OK, it's his mom's the killer, right?
Correct. Yeah.
I had no clue because the first ones I saw I want to say it was
3 then I saw 2456. I don't think I saw one for a
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long time, like maybe till I waslike maybe 20.
Damn. OK.
So I never knew that that like the first one didn't have Jason
in it. Did you ever you saw Part 1
right? Yeah, I've seen all of them.
Yeah, so for years I never knew he wasn't in the first one.
Well, I guess till the. End of that.
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Yeah, I'm with you. Because I don't remember seeing
Part 1 right away. Like it might have been like
honestly my first one might havebeen was Jason X or the one
where he goes to space. OK, Yeah.
Yeah, it's like a fucking ridiculous movie, but I, I
didn't really, I watched the Friday the 13th movies until
then, so I had no idea. I'm familiar with the Jason
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character, but I didn't really watch it.
I think maybe one of the 1st movies I or horror movies I've
watched would be the Poltergeistmovies.
They, they had, they had a big impact on me.
Like it was the one of the 1st movies I watched that
legitimately scared the shit outof me as a child.
That's a good one. That's a good.
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Let me ask you, have you ever thought about going to look at
like, I get, I want to say memorabilia, but that's not the
right word for it, like like thethe Halloween house or the
Poltergeist house and stuff likethat.
I guess these tours that they have for those places or the
Amityville House, that's a good one.
No, because at this point it gets like the someone's living
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in the Amityville house, you know, so they, it's been changed
up enough times where it doesn'thave the same vibe and feel to
it. You know, if, if they left these
places abandoned and left for the, the nature to let them
decay and make them even creepier than what they were in
the movies, it might be something to observe.
You know, like I'm all for goingthrough haunted houses and all
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that shit, but yeah, I, I don't,I don't know about going to like
a Poltergeist movie tour or anything like that.
Yeah, let me, let me ask you this then.
What is the weirdest place you went to in the name of horror?
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I don't know, I mean, not reallyany weird places.
Like I've spent the nights in cemeteries before.
That's a weird place. Yeah, but it's not weird 'cause
it's, you know, like when you think a horse like horror in
cemeteries go hand in hand. So it's not that big.
I guess spending the night in a cemetery is creepy, but you
know, I used to go to a lot of abandoned buildings and rundown
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warehouses and shit for fun but it was never in what I I never
went on any ghost hunting expeditions or anything like
that. OK, so I might have you beat
them because when I was younger I went to the Museum of Death in
Hollywood. Oh OK, you lucky fuck.
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Yeah, my brother took me there. And for those who don't know,
the Museum of Death is this museum that's in Hollywood.
I think it's in Hollywood. I want to say it's in New
Orleans. But what it is, is it's a Museum
of serial killer shit, of serialkiller shit and stuff for
murders, like actual, like crimescene photos, actual weapon that
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was used in crime, in crimes andmurders, like just everything
you could think of. And it was like super fast and
just going through this place and seeing all these things,
these instruments of death. I don't know why my brother took
me here. I guess he just like, hey, this
is what Hollywood has to offer, come check it out.
It was just such a fascinating thing to just go through and
just walk around seeing all. I think, I can't remember when
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it was all there, but it was just a lot of stuff from
different serial killers and telling the stories behind it
and listening to the stories. It was just like a really cool
thing to do. See that?
That would be something for me to go check out.
What got to go to Hollywood? Yeah, I know.
That's the thing. I don't want to read with you.
I need to go back to Hollywood. Well, Hollywood, CA anyway, so.
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Hell yeah, I'm down. I'm down do that.
See, I, I, I've, I was, I guess like the closest thing to
anything like that would be likeon the waiting list for Mckamey
Manor. Are you familiar with that?
Oh, you got to tell about Mckamey Manor.
OK, so Mckamey Manor is AI, don't know if he's still doing
it anymore, but it's a submersive haunted house
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experience. But it's not like your standard
haunted house. This is where like they abduct
you out of nowhere and essentially torture you for 8
hours in violent, horrific ways.And people sign up for the
experience. And I've, I, I always thought
it'd be something like, Oh yeah,let's see how long you can
survive in something like this. So I put I put myself on the
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checklist for it. Well, they actually torture you.
Yeah, like they, there's a YouTube channel for it.
Like you can, you can watch whatthey do to you, but they, they
water board you. They, I've seen them like shave
heads with axle grease and like sharp metal objects.
And they, they, they torture youwith any sort of horrific ways
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they can for an extended period of time.
And the goal is to see how long you could last in it.
And I thought it was a fascinating idea because that's
the way that I see the future ofhaunted houses progressing.
Wow, I'm looking at this right now.
I didn't know this was a thing. Yeah, it's it's a fascinating
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story. Like the guy is a total creep.
Like he I think he does it for like 6 or sadistic, like sexual
purposes, like he gets off on the torture.
But it's still an interesting idea, and I think he's a pioneer
in what's what is gonna be the future in haunted housing.
Yeah, I'm looking at. I'm on the website right now.
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Looks pretty crude to say the least, but let me see what it.
OK, I'm going to read what theirwebsite says so people don't get
an ideal over there. Be warned, McKinney Manor is not
your standard Boo haunted house.This is an audience
participation event in which youwill live your own horror movie.
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This is a rough, intense and truly frightening experience.
You must be in great health to participate.
Last year's hunt was absolutely nothing compared to the new
McKinney Manor new. I guess they update the website
because it says 20/20/23 New for2023, Mccamry Manor presents
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Descent, the next evolution of interactive survival horror
theater. Understand that our tool will be
based upon different your personal fears and can last up
to six hours. Each guest will be mentally and
physically challenged until you reach your personal breaking
point. Yeah, you have.
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You have to have, you have to have a psychological evaluation
before you can participate in this to make sure that you're
mentally prepared for it. And you have to have a physical
to make sure your your body is physically able to handle what
you're about to endure. It's intense.
Yeah, this is wild. They like they you gotta like
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I'm looking at the requirements 21 and above or 18 to 21 parents
approval completed sports physical and doctor's level
letter stating that you're physically and mentally cleared.
Pass a background clearance check by a medical professional.
I can't even read all this because their their website is
like terrible. They have like this file over
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that's really bad. It says be screened via FaceTime
or phone, proof of medical insurance, sign a detailed 40
page waiver and pass a portable drug screening day of the show.
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That is wild. Yeah, and it's free.
All you got to do is give the guy like 4 cans of dog food and
you're you're in. That's what you have to give
him. Yeah, that's all he wants, his
dog food. That is wild.
Apparently they have something it says they have.
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It's on Netflix. Yeah, there've been a there've
been several documentaries made around the guy.
He's been in the the subject of multiple lawsuits that surround
this whole thing. He's been shut down numerous
times and had to relocate. Oh, this is fascinating.
For those who want to check it out, the show that's on Netflix
that talks about this is called Dark Tourists.
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Yep, it's now streaming on Netflix.
It's episode 8. So if you want to see McKinney
Manor is and you are sick fuck who's interested in going like
me and Brandon, here's your chance and go check it out and
get an idea of what you're goingthrough.
So now I also am going to look at this and see what this is all
about because this looks fascinating.
Yeah, it's not something I'd want to do anymore necessarily,
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but I was like, I, I, I believe in what he's doing.
I think it's a great idea, you know, because haunted houses are
getting stale and dull and repetitive at this point.
They need to be ramped. Everything needs to be ramped up
a notch for being too desensitized from movies and
whatnot. So why not kick things up a
notch if you're willing to participate?
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I actually do think it's actually a great idea when you
consider, you know, to be to be truthful about the manner.
If you consider all the things people pay for, that's not
horror. Let's say like, no, not the king
shame enough like that, but theypay for BDMSM or things like
that. This kind of feels a little bit
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like that, but horror like when they're going to torture you,
they're going to put you throughmental and physical anguish and
pain and stuff like that. So, but you know, I guess as a
fan of horror, that's part of the journey through horror, I
think people like the aspects ofbeing scared and the endorphins
that it brings to you. And I think this is close to the
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line, but not the line. Yeah, it's, it's tiptoeing
around the edges of it, that's for sure.
Yeah, it definitely is. But you know, I think the whole
I think the concept is brilliant.
Like, you know, the six hours isa lot, but I'm I'm assuming
based off what I'm reading you could tap out at any time.
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Well, and that's where the controversy lies, because no,
you can't. Like.
He, they, they, they, they set up safe words and whatnot that
they give you. But there have been numerous
times where they've ignored all that.
Oh, see, that's a different problem then.
But that's part of the experience, though.
Like that. Like, what's more horrifying
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than thinking that it's going toend and it doesn't?
That is actually really true. That's that's a fascinating way
to look at it. It's a fascinating thing and
it's it's free. Which Which?
Which adds to the theory that this guy's doing it for some
sick, sadistic pleasure that he's getting out of it.
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He has to be because and also I think it's kind of brilliant
that it's free because if it's free, you can't sue him.
Like you're not paying for the experience, not all the.
What are you going to get out ofit, honestly?
Yeah, you're not paying for the experience, you're signing the
waiver. So it's like a lot harder to
assume if you're not paying for it and you volunteer for it.
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Kind of smart. Now think about it.
Kind of smart. So let's talk about Gore House a
little bit more. How many episodes you have,
Brandon? How many episodes you got so
far? Or five episodes in. 5 episodes
in this Mystery Science Theater 3000.
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But with horror, which I think Ilike the concept of it.
Who are some of the people you want to have on the show that
you have not had on yet? Oh, and who's your dream guest,
by the way? I don't really have a dream
guest at this point. I, I've been doing this
podcasting thing long enough to know like that more
realistically who I can and can't book on these type of
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shows. Like so yeah, that'd be funny as
all hell. I I guess like some of my, the
locales that I cover on the worst of would be fun to have
just just for the content out ofthat to see how they handle
things. But I don't know.
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I think it'd be great to get thepeople in our inner circle back
on the show. Carl from WATP, Adam Bush, who's
had who has experience in movies, he, you know, he's an
actor and whatnot. So it'd be great to have his
perspective on stuff. You know, like there are plenty
of people that I'd like to see come on and go through these
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terrible movies with us. Got.
Some good points. What movies you think you want
to do then which ones you looking at like this is what I
would really want to get. To the The list is ever growing.
Delvin Like, there's like every time I see a new trailer for
something, I, I, I have to debate whether or not it's
worthy enough to be put onto theshow list.
Well, the, The funny thing aboutthe episode that we did was, and
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I, I appreciate I found it funny.
We changed what we were going totalk about.
We were going to watch like at least four times.
Yeah, because every time I suggested a movie, you had said
you'd watched it already, and I don't want to do that to you.
I either watched it and then bred like there's another one I
kind of would have watched too, so let's go with this one.
I'm like, all right, let's go for it because I know the Mickey
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Mouse one was the one I wanted to watch.
There was two of them. There was Star Trap, which I
saw, which I did not like. And it was this one Steamboat
Mickey that I didn't see. I knew about it, I didn't see
and I was very surprised at the direction they went with Mickey.
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Oh it was great. Like they turned him into this
weird rat looking monster and they couldn't keep his size
proportions right at all so he kept changing size.
This, that was the perfect way for people who are listening
right now. If you want to get an idea, if
you want to pick an episode, I'mnot.
I'm not saying this because I'm on the episode.
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If you want to get a concept of what this show is, go check out
that episode with episode that'sepisode 2 or 3.
Four there. You go.
It's episode 4 of Gore Hounds. It's me, Jodie B, who everybody
knows that motherfucker Jodie B and Brandon watching.
No one. It's red.
What do we talk about? It's red, yeah.
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It's Red, the other white guy. I know I said Jodie because he
was asking me that. I'll do damn something.
Yeah, it's good. But yeah, it's me, Red and
Brandon watching Mickey murder people.
The Disney Princesses, of all people.
Yes, that was the funny part about the cool thing about this
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show is completely interactive. If you want to watch this movie
like like just much like MysteryScience did 3000, you can sit
there and essentially be watching it with us.
And I love that aspect of it. It's like sitting in there with
your friends watching a horror movie and just getting your
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jokes here. It's a fun experience, the fun
time we do it. I recommend people watch the
show. If you know Brandon, hop on the
show. Absolutely, yeah.
I'm I'm looking to have anyone and everyone like if you're
interested in watching cheesy horror movies, if you've got
suggestions for us, I'm all for it.
Yeah, this is a fun show to be on.
This is shitty Song of the week is a very funny show to be on.
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But you know, you got to have, you got to have a little bit of
music experience. You got to know a little bit
about music, a little bit, just a little bit.
Not much gore hounds. You just got to be a fan of
movies. Yep, and who isn't a fan of
movies? Selvin.
Yes, everybody's a fan of movies.
You gotta just be a fan of movies.
Be willing to watch a movie, A free movie.
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By the way, you're watching the movie for free.
Yeah. And we're we're going to start
going live in the next couple ofweeks.
I'm looking forward to doing that.
So we can't really stream it on YouTube because of copyright
issues. So right now, right now we're
just limited to Spotify and Rumble at the time being, but
we're going to be streaming liveon Twitter and whatnot.
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So we're looking to get more audience participation involved
in these episodes so people can watch the movies with us in real
time, comment in real time, we can interact with each other,
make it a great experience for everyone.
I gotta tell you this, Brittany,I think this is a brilliant
idea. I appreciate it.
One thing about Brandon, and I'mgoing to give you credit, I'll
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give you props right now. Brandon is a super creative
dude, especially when it comes to like podcasting and ideas
like that. He's come up with several ideas
for shows, all vastly different and all of them for some reason
work or have a good connection and get feel to it.
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If you look at see the song of the week, you look at this one.
I like the trajectory that you go with shows and how you do
your shows and how you build upon the shows and how you can
just even the locale show. They are all vastly different
and unique ideas that you brought to the table, and I kind
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of commend that. I appreciate that, Delvin.
Yeah, you put in your work. So before we go, Brandon, you
know the people want it. You got to tell one of your wild
stories, Sir. I don't have any more at this
point, man. I've I've, I've died down at
this point like I'm a I'm. A sober up on us A family man
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has his handsome son, his beautiful wife.
Just living your life now. Yeah, exactly.
Like I've calmed down. I'm an I'm an old man.
Those wild days are long behind me at this point.
Well, I will say this thing. I am happy that you felt your
inner peace. You look happier, you feel
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health, you look healthier, You look like you're in a good
place. I appreciate.
And I think the people who've watched this show from the first
time you've been on to now will find great happiness and great
solace and knowing that, hey, wewatched him from when he was
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low, when he was high, when he'shigh and low to now.
And we've seen the growth, we'veseen the maturity.
We've seen you in a good time. We've seen your bad times and we
see you now. And we know that you're in a
good place. And I'm happy to say if this was
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your last time coming on here, which is definitely not, it's
good that people get to see you like this.
Well, that's always good to hear.
Yeah, I think, I think you're knocking it out the park, buddy.
Thank you. So any other things you want to
say before we go? No, this has been great, man.
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I really appreciate coming on. Like, it's always a blast coming
on this show and getting to talkto you, Delvin.
Yeah. And I appreciate that each time
you come on, you bring somethingdifferent, but it's and unique.
I was going to break, I mean, itwas going to would have been way
off topic, but I wanted to know what you were thinking of
Kanye's latest music. Oh me and Jody is with argued
(56:38):
about this for. I'm not talking about the
Cousins song because I don't. No, not that one.
I don't buy in the cousin I bothbullshit.
We both universally agree that song sucks.
Well, I think that's a troll song.
I don't. I don't buy into the legitimacy
of it at all. I think it's a fake.
That's a good point. That could be a troll song.
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We were talking about his Kyle. Hitler.
Yes, his. His Nazi anthem that people
that's apparently people are going crazy over.
It's a masterpiece, Delvin, whatare you talking about?
It is awful and and it makes me more mad annoyed by it that
people are taking it and making their own verses of it.
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They are just as bad. I've heard so many different
like takes on that song and I was going to bring a couple of
them tonight for us to go through.
Like there's a country one that's hysterical.
I. Didn't hear the Country 1 yet.
Yeah, it's, it's pretty damn good.
But yeah, I I the song itself isn't great, but the you got to
admit that the hook is incredibly catchy for what it
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is. Yeah.
And that's what that's what draws everyone into it.
And it's like I I'm surprised tosee how many white people it's
entitled them to like, say the Nword.
Yes, that's the most fascinatingthing about this song that
people, well, one, people are saying how Hitler and they're
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just saying it like they're like, you know, that's something
we say that I know it's 2025, but it's something that we just
openly sang in a song like I don't give a fuck.
Like they're like, there are places that you can't even like
in Germany, you can't do none ofthat shit.
Nope. Like this that's like illegal
they they're fucking up over that and we just like go on the
Internet just singing how Hitlerjust singing the N word like
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this. What we're doing like alright,
alright 2025. This is a a wild year to say the
least. Like.
I'm here for it. I don't know about you.
I feel, I feel like we're on theTitanic.
We're just alone for the ride. I feel like we're on the Titanic
and we're not one of the rich white folks.
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We're like the poor people that like fucked at the bottom of the
show. Like, Oh yes, we ain't got the
life raft. We just fucked.
We just long for the ride. But have we hit the iceberg yet,
Alvin? We're right there.
We're staring at it. We, we are the people.
We're telling, hey, I might wantto move for the iceberg.
And they're like, Nah, Nah, it'sfine.
It's fine. We'll be out here.
That little thing, it's not going to do anything.
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This, this boat is unsinkable. We'll be fine.
Yep, that's what, that's what we're doing.
We're telling, we're telling thepeople that you probably should
move the boat. And they're like, no, not at
all. We're not moving.
And that's what 2025 has been like so far.
We can, if we can describe 2025 in a nutshell, it is.
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We are the people on the Titanictelling the people you should
move. There's icebergs there and
they're like, Nah, we're good. And we're just watching us
slowly go to that iceberg. Yeah, but I'm here for it,
Delvin. I'm.
I'm excited to see it all come crashing down before my eyes.
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Yes, one more thing before we go.
I just thought about it UI Ball.Well, I haven't heard that name
in a long time. Do you plan on watching any of
his movies? Yeah, I'm all for it.
Like he has some of the worst movies that are out there and he
gets so pissed off when people make fun of them.
(01:00:17):
'Cause he has a couple of horrormovies.
Remember correctly. Yes, he does.
I think Blood the Blood Rain series is horror movies, so you
probably can do those. Yeah, and I think isn't Rampage.
Wouldn't those be considered? Yes.
So yeah, you you got some content.
Yeah, you, you. A bull gets pissed off whenever
(01:00:38):
you make fun of any of his shit,so I'm all for that.
He really does. His movies are fucking.
Terrible. There's a worst you.
Know awful. I don't he he's he's like
legendarily bad. Yeah, he's right up there with
Neil Breen. Yes, so I can't wait till till
we get on that Ooey Ball slander.
(01:01:00):
Hell yeah. All right, let them notify you
that, Brandon. Let them notify Gorehounds that.
Well you can check out Gorehounds on Spotify and Rumble
whenever episodes come out. Follow us on X over at worst of
pod. I only have the one social media
for now but other than that that's that's about it man,
(01:01:22):
thanks for having me on. My pleasure brother.
Oh, let me ask you this before we go.
What episodes of Gore House you have out right now so people can
go check them out? There's Popeye the Slayer, Man
Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey, 2, Peter Pan's Neverland,
Nightmare, Scream Boat, and I believe shopping Mall.
(01:01:43):
Shopping mall? Yeah, you did watch that one.
Yeah, it's a it's a classic 80s horror movie.
I think I've heard that. I haven't watched that one now,
so yeah, you got some homework, guys.
Go check out these Gorehounds episodes.
Matter of fact, Brandon, give methe link so I can put these.
No, obviously I have to record, get drop.
(01:02:04):
Send me the link so I can put these in the show notes.
Absolutely. All right.
Thank you guys for listening. As always Devil Cox experience,
we are out peace. Later.
Gorehounds.
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