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This podcast will take you on a smart, direct, sometimes scary, sometimes profane, sometimes hilarious tour of the inner workings of American power and of the impact of our leaders and their policies on our standing in the world. Hosted by noted author and commentator David Rothkopf and featuring regulars Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law School, Kori Schake of AEI, and Ed Luce of the Financial Times, the program will be the lively, smart dinner table conversation on the big issues of the day that you wish you were having...without the calories. Sometimes special guests will join the conversation and always the emphasis will be on providing the unvarnished perspectives others shy away from. Deep State Radio is the insider perspective on American national security and foreign policy that you can't find anywhere else. If you are enjoying this podcast, please consider becoming a member by visiting thedsrnetwork.com.
Episodes
August 1, 2025 • 24 mins
On Thursday, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt delivered one of her most obsequious, fawning tirades about President Trump yet. She credited him with single-handedly resolving a half dozen major geopolitical conflicts around the world, and angrily asserted that it’s high time Trump is granted the Nobel Peace Prize. It’s no accident that this came amid new polling evidence that Trump’s coalition is falling apart in a fres...
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July 31, 2025 • 21 mins
On the DSR Daily for Thursday, we discuss Canada joining the UK and France in a push to recognize a Palestinian state, a so-called trade deal with South Korea, Kamala Harris choosing not to run for governor of California, and more.
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July 31, 2025 • 19 mins
President Donald Trump has been raging at Federal Reserve chairman Jerome Powell for weeks, demanding that he cut interest rates. But on Wednesday, the Fed declined—and worse for Trump, Powell delivered a blunt assessment of his tariffs, claiming they are “pushing up prices,” and that “near-term measures of inflation expectations have moved up.” Given that this comes right when more of Trump’s tariffs are set to take effect on Augu...
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July 30, 2025 • 27 mins
The conditions in Gaza are hellish, and they are about to get much worse. Thousands more Palestinians are at risk of dying from famine all while the Israeli government makes plans to annex more of the territory. Refugees International President Jeremy Konyndyk joins Rosa Brooks, Ed Luce, Kori Schake, and David Rothkopf to shine a light on the horrifying crisis underway in Gaza.
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July 30, 2025 • 41 mins
US Intelligence and the CIA have undergone radical changes in the 21st century. From the War on Terror to the turmoils of the Trump era, intelligence has shifted dramatically in both its structure and mission. Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and author Tim Weiner joins David Rothkopf to discuss his new book, The Mission: The CIA in the 21st Century and why the intelligence community is adrift under the current administration.
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July 30, 2025 • 22 mins
On the DSR Daily for Wednesday, we discuss the UK’s plan to recognize a Palestinian state, a massive earthquake hitting off Russia’s Far East, the confirmation of Emil Bove, and more.
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July 30, 2025 • 27 mins
You’ve probably heard that President Trump and the European Union have reached a big trade deal. This is being widely portrayed as a “win” for Trump and a big humiliation for the EU. But it’s not at all clear what we gain as a country from this deal. Surely the phrase “Trump won” has to mean more than, “Trump gets to claim a personal victory and the media is required to play along,” right? We talked to economist Paul Krugman, who h...
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The Trump administration has released its AI Action Plan, and it is a mixed bag to say the least. Even with the plan, there are still core concerns about the role of governance in AI. Georgetown’s Michelle De Mooy joins David Rothkopf to discuss the implications of deregulation, the tug of war between federal and state regulations, the challenges of IP in the age of AI, and more.
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July 29, 2025 • 23 mins
On the DSR Daily for Tuesday, we cover warnings of an impending famine in Gaza, the US and China resuming trade talks, Harvard contemplating capitulation to the Trump administration, and more.
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July 29, 2025 • 23 mins
President Trump just offered some bizarre new ramblings about the Jeffrey Epstein scandal. But he undermined himself: He claimed to know about elite Democrats and liberals who had visited Epstein. But that just raises the question that won’t go away: If this is what the Epstein files would reveal, then why isn’t Trump ordering their release? Every time Trump says such things, he wrecks his own Big Lie: That the Epstein scandal is a...
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July 28, 2025 • 16 mins
On the DSR Daily for Monday, we break down the EU/US trade deal, the ceasefire between Thailand and Cambodia, Democrats’ plan to combat Texas redistricting, and more.
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July 28, 2025 • 23 mins
President Trump is now suggesting he may pardon Ghislaine Maxwell, the accomplice to Jeffrey Epstein who’s serving time for sex trafficking. Trump told reporters: “I’m allowed to do it.” He dispatched Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche to solicit testimony from Maxwell, ostensibly to gain new insight into Epstein’s activities. But in today’s episode, lawyer Philip Rotner, author of a new piece for The Bulwark on the Maxwell angle...
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July 27, 2025 • 23 mins
On the DSR Weekly Wrap-Up for July 25, we discuss President Macron’s plan to recognize a Palestinian state, Tulsi Gabbard’s public accusations against Obama-era officials, conflict in Thailand and Cambodia, and more.
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July 25, 2025 • 25 mins
A new Gallup poll finds that President Trump’s approval has dropped to 37 percent. But the White House has figured out how to get those numbers back up: By picking a huge fight with “The View.” This week, Joy Behar unleashed a striking takedown of Trump, mocking him mercilessly for being jealous of Barack Obama. This enraged the White House, which responded with name calling—and a veiled threat. Which got us thinking: Doesn’t the l...
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South Park is back, and they don’t care about pissing off Donald Trump… unlike Columbia University. While Trump fumes about his disastrous PR and anybody who dares to even joke about him, the sinister undercurrents of his regime continue to flow. Norm Ornstein and David Rothkopf are back to discuss the challenges facing universities, the complete erosion of legal norms under Trump, and the latest episode of South Park.
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July 24, 2025 • 17 mins
On the DSR Daily for Thursday, we cover protests over a controversial new law in Ukraine, calls for Pam Bondi to testify, another court blocking Trump’s birthright citizenship order, and more.
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July 24, 2025 • 26 mins
President Donald Trump is “furious” about his inability to make the Jeffrey Epstein scandal go away, Politico reports. He’s frustrated with his staff’s failure to tamp down the uproar, which continues to consume his base, and his allies are admitting this has become major problem, with one telling Politico that Trump understands that “this is a vulnerability.” This comes amid new reports that Attorney General Pam Bondi and her depu...
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July 23, 2025 • 29 mins
Let’s be honest, Donald Trump is the captain of a ship of fools. Nowhere is this more clear than in the realms of foreign policy and defense, where folks like Pete Hegseth and Tulsi Gabbard run rampant. What does this descent into madness mean for our country? Ed Luce, Rosa Brooks, and Kori Schake join David Rothkopf to answer this critical question and more.
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July 23, 2025 • 24 mins
On the DSR Daily for Wednesday, we break down the new trade deal between the US and Japan, Pam Bondi firing a New Jersey prosecutor, a landmark new UN ICJ ruling on climate change, and more.
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July 23, 2025 • 32 mins
In the last few days, we seem to have crossed a threshold. President Trump is ratcheting up the authoritarianism and threatening to prosecute his enemies in a new kind of way. In a series of angry new rants, Trump accused Barack Obama and other members of Obama’s administration of serious crimes. He’s also calling for Senator Adam Schiff to be put in “prison.” Critically, all this has been accompanied by unabashedly corrupt manipul...
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