The Enneagram Journey

The Enneagram Journey

Using the wisdom of the Enneagram, and ongoing discussion and conversation, we will grow compassion for ourselves and others, as well as a better understanding for why we do what we do!

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April 29, 2026 76 mins

Two of the podcast's favorite people join Suzanne and Joe at her favorite bookstore to do what she loves the most: talk relationships and enneagram!

The listeners are probably familiar with Hunter from all of his work with LTM, and now you get to meet his soon to be husband, Bradley Hickman. We get to hear what works and what struggles 9s and 2s have together.

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Meet the eldest of Suzanne's 9 grandchildren!

William Alexander Schewee IV, enneagram 4, joins the show with his uncle and a couple of grandparents, including of course, the Enneagram Godmother.

You'll learn about "Bros' Nights", the differences and similarities between fours and sevens, our different ways of connection including: how do you respond to people singing happy birthday to you?!

And remember, hope will not leave you dis...

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January 23, 2026 73 mins

Join us in escorting The Micah Center on to the next plain.

Suzanne, Joe, and Hunter sit down for one final conversation at The Micah Center, the home of LTM for the past 20 years.

As you'll hear in the intro, this episode is heavy on the "Journey" aspect of the podcast and light on any "enneagram" talk. Suzanne and Joe always are quick to say that the enneagram is just a tool. A GREAT tool, but just one. The Micah Center was so mu...

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The Enneagram Journey may be recording next at your local Hilton! Maybe not, but this episode was fun to record at Joel's hotel room when LTM travelled to Charlotte, NC for a workshop. Kim Honeycutt (8) and Larissa Miller (4) join the show to talk about their relationship, their journey, justice, and what do you know about polyvagal theory?

You can find out more about what Kim and Larissa are up to at icutalks.org, watershedcharlot...

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Meet author and Enneagram 5, Jess Everlee!

4 books, one for the Head, one for the Heart, and one for the Body, and how about one featuring a couple of Sixes!

Jess shares about figuring out her enneagram number, which ones are the easiest and most difficult for her to write, and about being married to an 8.

"I mistyped my own teen angst as a 4. But, since it was a mistype, it wasn't useful." - JE

All romance lovers need to check out...

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LTM's very own Joey Stabile Schewee is back on The Journey!

 

Gather everyone around the water cooler in the office and turn up the volume, because you and your team don't want to miss this episode. Joey, enneagram 8, the best enneagram teacher you'll find for the corporate setting shares with the listeners about her work.

  • Which number mistypes the most?
  • Which number is mistyped as the most?
  • Who has the greatest difficulty man...
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Dr. Molly sayyyyyyyyys, you're gonna love this podcast!

Welcome Dr. Molly Brinkmann to The Journey! Enneagram 8, married to an enneagram 6 (Ryan), mother, veterinarian, and social media bad ass. We get a good amount of work talk in, co-parenting as an 8 and a 6, the anxiety of not only sixes, but all numbers, and more. Also a special spot appearance from fellow 8, Joey Schewee.

To learn more about Molly, be sure and give her instag...

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Welcome to The Journey Austin Channing Brown!

Enneagram 9, Austin Channing shares some of her wisdom and experience in this episode, including what we think is a CRAZY story about her time as an enneagram 9 employed at a church.

  • Decision Making
  • Passive Aggressive Anger
  • Repressed Doing
  • Foreboding Joy and Artificial Joy (brace yourselves 7s!)
  • I'm Still Here and Full Of Myself

Full Of Myself is available soon, so preorder t...

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July 8, 2025 65 mins

Q&A Episode in the house!

We start the show with a question from an Enneagram 7 married to an Enneagram 1 (that combo comes up a lot!).

"Do I have to keep apologizing for the last 20 years every time I mess up?"

Then we get to talk about:

  • 9s with an 8 wing, or are they extroverted, or are they another number?!
  • Gut Types
  • How each individual number in each Triad deals with Anger, Fear, or Shame
  • ...
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Live shows in bookstores...we wish every episode could be recorded this way!

Today's episode is almost like 3 episodes rolled into one. We get to meet Arlene Kasselman (enneagram 7), founder of 7&1 Books. Then we get to hear from Jen Rogers (enneagram 8) and learn from her experiences in life, and then chase all of that with some Q&A with the audience.

Find 7&1 books and learn more about them by visiting sevenandonebook...

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Let's do some math.

2 + 2 - 7 = a great episode of The Enneagram Journey!

Enneagram 2, Jen Hanson, joins fellow 2, Suzanne Stabile on today's show, but we lost our 7 Joel for this one. Don't like the episode too much, it'll hurt his feelings.

  • Can you have an enneagram conversation between a couple of Twos without talking about boundaries?
  • The strengths of being a Tw...
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Russ Hudson is back on the show, and is going to blow your mind!

The show starts with a little catching up, so we get to hear about some of Russ' travels, and we look forward to IEA Experience 2025 that features both Russ and Suzanne!

  • How has the Enneagram, or our understanding of the enneagram, evolved over the years?
  • Russ shares their 3 rules he and Don had when writing The Wisdom of The Enneagram
  • We're not just talking abou...
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Meet Tori Hastings, enneagram 5!

As promised, we are definitely not going to talk about golf, and we are going to talk about somatic therapy, what we do when we get home from our day, what Tori's life looked like over the past 30 years in Alabama, and did Suzanne make a revision to the Centers of Intelligence?

"You don't achieve balance by push...

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Get your pen and paper ready, because this episode is FULL of incredible enneagram teaching from not one BUT TWO! enneagram teachers (and neither are Joel).

Katie Whitlock (3), yes, the daughter of The Enneagram Journey's own Sara Whitlock (2), joins Suzanne in this episode. Seriously, so much good wisdom in this one

  • Escaping to the future
  • What do you do when you're restless?
  • Balance
  • Doing Enneagram work, but identifying as th...
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Alex and Darnell are back to share their final thoughts and feelings about their experience in the 2024 Enneagram Cohort with Suzanne!

If this series of conversations with Darnell and Alex has raised your interest in the LTM Cohort program, we hope you will check it out and apply. Applications for the following year's Cohort program are accepted April 1 - September 1. You can get the dates, descriptions, expectations, and applicati...

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You've asked for more Enneagram Twos on the show, and here is a great start! Meet Sara Whitlock. Sara is a nurse practitioner from Ohio. Married to JD, an Enneagram 5, she and one of her daughters were both a part of the 2024 Enneagram Cohort with Suzanne (we'll get to hear from her daughter Katie in an upcoming episode!).

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Great events coming up:

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Happy 2025 to everyone on their Enneagram Journey! And even to those who haven't started yet. The first episode of the year is fantastic and features pastor, spiritual director, and author Laura Murray, Enneagram 4.

  • Laura is married to an Enneagram 5
  • The difference between Home and where you belong
  • Some surprising Enneagram Wing discussion with Suzanne
  • Spiritual Practices
  • Parenting and more

Below you will find the practi...

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Your Enneagram Godmother and an Enneagram Guncle got together for this INCREDIBLE conversation!

If you don't know Jonathan yet, Enneagram 3, this is a wonderful introduction.

 

"...othering the other that othered them."

It'll make more sense after you hear him talk about it!

 

Jonathan is a writer on faith and culture, the author of Learning To Speak God From Scratch, Jesus is Better Than You Imagined, My Guncle and Me and a few ot...

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October 9, 2024 145 mins

The Enneagram Godmother + The Great Russ Hudson + The Reverend

Where do we sign up?!?!

Today's podcast episode comes from the LTM teaching event in Dallas, Br5aking The Cycle (don't worry, you'll learn why it is spelled that way and what 5a means).

As you'll hear Joel explain, this 2 hour teaching is only the opening for the rest of the next 10 hours, but it is an entire workshop in itself!

There is nobody Suzanne holds in higher r...

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October 2, 2024 78 mins

Its Q&A time on The Enneagram Journey!

Suzanne and Joel sat down to record today's episode at The Micah Center and decided at the last moment to turn on the camera. Having the camera on contributed to the conversation about seeing a therapist and accountability, and the show just takes off from there.

Some of the things you'll here in this episode:

  • A question about a 7 and 5 relationship
    • this leads to some subtype talk
    • ...
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