October 20, 2025 • 45 mins
00:00 – 12:24 - Colts and Hoosiers continue to roll, Colts bent the Chargers over their knee and did what they wanted offensively, Jonthan Taylor continues an unreal run, Colts open as over two touchdown favorites against the Titans
12:25 – 35:23 – James Boyd joins us from LAX before he heads home to give his thoughts on what he thought from Colts-Chargers, should Colts be all in on a trade for an edge rusher, who are some players that could be on the Colts radar realistically, IU continues to win, Heisman favorites
35:24 – 45:20 - GOATs of the Week
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to the best of the Fan Morning Show
on ninety three five and one oh seven five The Fan.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
They Touched It.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
He sees the Fan Morning Show with Kami, Shaby and Jeff.
Now Fernando has Henby to his right. Man comes in motion.
Mendoza takes the staff, hands to Hendy.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Right up the gun he passes. Late in the episode,
a terrific.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Car run and Indiana will take the lead.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Right back, Fernando takes the snaff, gets the Hanby Hemmy
drives his wife touch the Indiana Robert Hemmy gets into
the end zone from two yards out and Indiana's got
the lead. Fernando takes the staff. They pressure in the
throat of the Enzo touchstaf PJ Wow, what a play.
It was actually sad who made the catch.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Here's the step back to more.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
He throws it to the innisa intercepted by Indiana, but who's.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Just come up with it at Isaiah Jones comes up.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
With a picker. N I guess the football.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
Back again back to the line of scrimmage and Jonathan
Taylor took a hand off right side from Daniel Jones
and skippers into the end.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Zone from twenty three yards out.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
Shotgun snap and Jones throwze up field. Michael Pittman down, Yes, sir,
we're down at seventeen now for the Colts, moving back
to the twenty seven yard line. Empty set for Jones,
has good protection and he's going to take a deep
shot down field for Almen Pears. He's got it and
over the show of their touches made inside the thirty
(01:32):
yard line.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Of the Chargers.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
Shotgun snap for the quarterback. Good protection, fires.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
In the end zone.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
Titler award touchdown in d why with a spike into
the end zone, and the Colts are perfect today.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Three touchdowns on three drives.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Herbert looks that way, initially scanning over to his right.
Throws in the end zone, picked up Nick Cross, took
it away from the receiver. Here Abdullah from the five
on the kick off twenty five, he's at the THIRTI
he's got the forties at the fifty yard line. Now
the first tideline, he's got to Tan thirty twenty and
he's pushed.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Out a baoance inside the.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Twenty yard line.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Taylor in motion jet sweep to him. Taylor turns the corner.
He's at the five, looking for the pylon.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Is he in no signal yet? He has a touchdown.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
High snap for Jones, but he pulls it down. Get
to the Taylor marching too, is right, he's at the
bucks down the track. But the again for Jonathan Taylor.
Three rushing touchdowns for the greatest running back going right now.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Not that you care, but those of us in the outside,
I think are a little surprised just how well this
team is playing to start the season. What do we
need to know about this group that maybe we didn't
know going into the year.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I mean, I don't know. It sounds like sounds like y'
didn't know much.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
But we're just gonna keep going, keep working, and we
have a lot of confidence. I think we got a
lot of good players, guys who.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Work hard and do the right things.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
It just shows that, hey, when you come to playoffs,
going to be a four quarter match, similar to how
it was today. We're gonna fight, scratching a claw until
that clock straight zero.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I love this league. I love it to death. I
love this organization.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
I love these players, I love our owners man, and
it takes all of us.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It's so special.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
It's so special, right, And don't ever lose this feeling, man,
don't ever lose it.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Right, she can fight every day to be the best.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
First, you gotta like this.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Good morning. Things are going well here in the state
of Indiana. Football is all over the place and everybody
is man. I don't know, bowing down as opposed to Indiana.
They are ranks number two, second in all of college football.
Good morning, Kevin Bowen. James Boyd will join us from
lax at some point this morning. He's still out in
Los Angeles where the the Colts gotta be going over
(03:49):
the Chargers and a bunch of bananas running around the
field yesterday. But KB a number two ranking for Indiana,
and we're gonna spend a lot of time on the
Colts in six and one, and we should first time
non manning e since they've been to Indianapolis. They've been
six and one. But I just my mind is getting
blown by the Indiana Hoosiers weekend and week out right now.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Mark Dyton, welcome back, lovely opening montage there. Hope you
had a great trip. Colts bear super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I wouldn't go that way there just yet.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
They're not.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
They're looking mighty good right now.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Your bear's playing some decent football as well. Yeah, it's yeah,
it's amazing. The football world revolves around the state of
Indiana and this is the year of twenty twenty five.
It's incredible. You know, last Monday, we have felt the
need to start with IU. I feel the need to
start with the Colts because I don't want to make
too much over mid October win. But that game to
me meant more to the Colts. I think they alluded
(04:44):
to that publicly. Privately I know it meant more to
the Colts. And when moments have been risen if you will,
in recent years, I don't think the Colts have met
the moment. And again it's mid October. But for you
to go out there win a game that you held
in higher regard, I think a lot of people held
it in high regard, and not only win the game,
(05:05):
but win the game in the fashion that you did
it matters. It is yet another win by fourteen or
more points. It's now the fourth time they've done that
in seven games. And the offense is just a wagon.
It's an absolute wagon. And Shane stike In is the
maestro of it all.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Well, they are rolling offensively, as you said, on all cylinders,
and it almost feels like they're almost using pass to
set up run. They've been running teams to death in
the second half. In the first half, Shane Stike and
just dialing up whatever he wants to dial up with
the passing game, and it seems to be working right now.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Actually, yesterday they ran it more early on. You know,
I thought the end of the first quarter you had
Taylor and Amir Abooli even had a couple carries. They
both I think combined for like eighty yards in the
first quarter, sixty seventy something yards in the first quarter,
which is kind of the reverse of what they have done.
But that's the thing, is their offensive balance right now
is clinical, it's surgical, it's you know, really whatever they
(05:57):
want to do, they're doing it amazing amount of balance.
They stay away from the negatives. And like, were you
ever truly worried, No, because the Chargers weren't going to
stop you. And yeah, the Chargers obviously were able to
move up and down the field a couple of huge
plays by Nick Cross and Grover Stewart there, but there
was no way that the Chargers were actually going to
(06:18):
stop the Colts for whatever, you know, amount of times
they needed to to truly get back in that game.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Oh, I am here for any three hundred and thirty
pound guy that not only bats is a pass up
into the air, but then locates and finds his batted
pass up into the air. That was my favorite play
all that game. Yes, Jack, I love I love that.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
That was the bench clearing celebration, not a bench clearing brawl.
That was the bench clearing celebration for Grover Stewart. And
what I mean those plays by Grover and Nick Cross
were huge. I think you heard Mark. I think was
that Charles Harbuckle maybe in the background saying wow at
the Nit Cross interception. I mean, you go back and
watch that replay. That's a hell of a play by
(06:57):
Cross on the one hander there the haul it in
the end zone. So yeah, I mean defensively, you certainly
have some questions, and especially with that pass rush, But
offensively right now, who's stopping them? Nobody?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
All I can tell people who say, well, you know,
they played a beat up Chargers team and they didn't
really completely dominate the passer with a bunch of backups
in there and all those kinds of things. They beat
a really good team that's coached by a really good coach.
And those guys that are backing up are still professional
football players. Now are they starters? And do you want
(07:31):
to get more out of your defensive line? Of course
you do. But that's some pretty decent numbers. Yesterday. They
didn't dominate that defensive front, but they didn't have to
at this point in time, and they're still banged up
and missing some people in the secondary. It all works together.
All I know is every week people like, well, this
team was missing that, this team is not. So All
I know is they just keep hammering people to your point.
(07:54):
The fourth time, that's a two touchdown win in the
National Football I don't care what the circumstances are are.
They're playing who's lined up in front of them, They're
taking care of business, and it feels like and it
looks like Kevin, they're getting better as the season goes along,
which is what you want. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
A couple of areas like red zone struggled early in
the season. Right now, the only time they don't score
in the red zone is because they stop themselves from scoring.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I e.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
The first half yesterday, that's where the red zone streak
was snapped and it's unfortunate, but they settle for a
field goal by their own doing. And then penalties. You know,
early on in the season there were a couple of
big penalty games and now they have gotten that number
to be a little bit lower. So I definitely think
they have some questions defensively that still need to be answered.
And I you know, wrote on one of them five
(08:39):
the fan, I think they should be entertaining a trade
for a pass rusher. Yeah. I thought that was the
one true disappointing elements yesterday was the lack of just
controlling that aspect to the game, because the Chargers were
decimated off as a tackle. But offensively right now, I mean,
is it's clinical, it's surgical, it's whatever they want to do.
(09:00):
It's Jones, it's Taylor, it's Warren. Here's the Pierce home run. Like,
did we forget Josh Downs didn't play yesterday? I mean,
like he's usually a very key ingredient to the offense.
Did the offense skip a beat without him?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I mean it's it's flawless what they're doing offensively, And
if they wanted to, that number could have been forty
five or fifty two. Yesterday, it just yeah, we're good
to thirty eight and that's all that's probably needed today.
I mean, thirty eight points in an NFL game against
the Chargers defense that you know, scoring wise, hadn't been
too bad, and really the Chargers didn't have many injuries defensively,
They got in Khalil Mack, they gotten Denzel Perryman back,
(09:36):
So that to me is the one unit right now
that I get there are some tougher defensive challenges waiting,
but right now it's it's absurd what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I An Eagle and JJ Watt were just like in
awe of what they're watching from Shane Stecken's offense, Like
this is kind of insane what they're doing right now.
How they're just just basically doing whatever they wanted and
just the Chargers, no Navil step, a single thing they're doing, Yeah,
is remarkable.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
And to me, again it comes back to just unbelievable
balance offensively, like if we want to run it, we'll
run it. If we want to throw it, we'll throw it.
And Daniel Jones just it probably sounds elementary, but he
finds simple, he finds answers. You know you hear you
know people all the time. Hey, there's an answer to
every play. Well, Daniel Jones seemingly finds it every single play,
and again, it's not the flashiest answer at times. It's
(10:20):
not third and seventeen the home run balld topears every
single play, but oh, third and ten on the on
the goal line, we'll check it down to a Mira
Abdulla for eight yards. Uh, that'll set up fourth and two. Okay,
change stick can go into your back on fourth and two.
All right, here's a little you know, rpo action where
we're gonna fake like Pittman's blocking. It's a play that
we run so many times, and boom, Michael Pittman Junior
(10:40):
is wide open the Colts and psychon. They're designed get
dudes wide ass open, high school open, and that just
does not happen in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Not to turn the page already, but did you see
the spread for what it is for the Titans game already?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Like?
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Is this the first time the Colt's been over two
touchdown favorites open to fourteen and fourteen and a half
right now?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I think that would be the second biggest spread in
the entire NFL this season. That's it.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
That's for this Colt's team to touchdown favorites against anybody
who would have thought that heading into the season.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Well here they are, big win on the road beat
the Chargers. Are we in or out on those Chargers' uniforms?
Yesterday they kind of grew on me as the as
the day wore on. But I don't need to see
him more than once.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I prefer to the powder Blue. Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I think somebody does that.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I mean, I don't mind him every once in a while,
but yeah, when I saw Joel Erickson's tweet that these
are hideous, I'm like, what are they wear?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Mustardy? Yes, really mustardy.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Yeah, they pulled out the Savannah banana's locker like.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Not mine's mustard, like like beer mustard sauce.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yeah, my daughters thought the minions were running around on
the field.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, a lot of Savannah bananas. References yesterday to what
they look like.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
They did look like.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yeah, yeah, but didn't mind them, but yeah, powder Blues
should have been the go to.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
All I know is class quite Blue is six and
one and sitting again and still atop the AFC with
an emphatic win, And we've got to talk about the
number two team in the nation, the Indiana Hoosiers. We're
gonna do it all this morning as we continue the
Fan Morning Show, and just a double victory, maybe it's
a triple quadruple victory. Money. It just feels like everything's
(12:20):
coming up Roses right now. Notre Dame, Kevin. We'll talk
about it all next to ninety three, five and one
of something. Five to another road game, another win for
the Indianapolis Coaster, a two and one away from home,
four and zero at home. They'll be at home again
on Sunday when they take on the Titans. But we've
got the live saver reflect on yesterday's thirty eight twenty
four victory. Kevin Bowen over the Los Angeles Chargers. We
(12:41):
bring in the third member of our booth, who is
at LAX as we speak overhearing your little conversation with
Mark Dyton here, James Woyd. Sounds like you're through security
and ready to get home, right.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
Yeah, something like that. I got to make sure I
get home for the Shamesiket press conference, which got moved
up an hour today. I flew out as early as
I did.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Good stuff. So here we go. You're joining us on
the paylost lookers hotline talking about another win for the Colts,
and we'll just start with the really good stuff. That
offense feels unstoppable right now. What was it like to
watch in front of your very own eyes, I.
Speaker 7 (13:16):
Mean their machine. I just feel like even with you know,
guys being in and out of the lineup, you know,
he saw it without Josh Downs out there, they didn't
miss a beat. This offense is, in my opinion, the
best of the NFL. And not even an opinion, it's
just a stat. At this point, he was up scoring
so many points it's crazy to me. And then hearing
Mally Cox talk about it after the game, he was like,
you know what, I was trying to tell Tyler Warren
(13:37):
that this isn't normal, but he was like, it's hard
to keep the rookie humble and tell him that this
isn't happen every week when we keep doing it every week.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
So he was riding high.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
The rest of the group was riding high as well,
and I even asked Daniel Jonathon, does this feel normal
to you because what you're scoring at is pretty historic
and he was just like, well, we expect to do this,
and so I think that just lets you know the
level of that he's playing at and the mindset these
you know, maintaining throughout all the success.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
James, have you ever seen a celebration like the post
Grover Stewart celebration. I thought the entire Colts bench came
out onto the field.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
No, that was the funniest play ever. And he's the
funniest player man, Like he'll make a great play and
then just his reaction in the locker room. Kevin talked
to him about it. I asked him, I say, hey, man,
did you think about taking it to the house. He's like,
I've had a little most spaces I would have been
making it to the house. So he's an hilarious player,
great player, and you know, someone who I think obviously
deserves a moment like that, because as you saw throughout
(14:32):
the season, he had tipped a couple passes for other
guys get interceptions. So he finally got one from himself.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
We were talking about Daniel Jones a few minutes ago
and the fact that he just keeps making great decisions.
He's taking really good care of the football, and he's
spreading the ball around. You know, it could be it's
always gonna be Jonathan Taylor doing his thing, but from
a receiving perspective, Josh Downs we missed him yesterday, but
we didn't miss him from on the field because they
just keep finding ways to do things like what's it
(15:00):
like to talk to those guys after the game when
everything's working offensively right now?
Speaker 7 (15:06):
I think the conversation afterwards was, you know, let's keep
this rolling.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And one of my.
Speaker 7 (15:11):
Biggest takeaways I threw it in my story. I believe
it's up right now at the Athletics was talking to
Maley Cox. He said, hey, well, Reggie Wayne said, when
we were rolling back in the day, are saying was
just like last week, I meaning they were gonna win
just like last week. And so you heard that saying
that motto kind of be yelled out in the locker
(15:32):
room over and over again from offmantive player defensive players,
and so they expect to do this weekend and week out.
And I think at this point we have to ask
ourselves with how great this offense is, how all in
should Chris ballor be to upgrading that defense because the
defense they got off the field when they get not
at the most. But again they flirted with disaster. I
thought in the second.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Half, James, do you think they should be more willing
to trade for a cornerback or an edge rusher.
Speaker 7 (15:59):
That's a great question, and I probably looked for a
dead rusher as rushers at this point. You look at
the highest played players in the league. It's quarterback, who
protects the quarterback, who gets after the quarterback, And I
just don't think they have anybody who doesn't consistently outside
of the Forest Buckner. I mean, yes, Grover Stewart is
great at run stopping, got an interception yesterday, and like
I said, default holds it down. But the rest of
(16:19):
that group, to me, just hasn't done enough. Even on
the day where I thought the Chargers, you know, they
were banged up, they didn't have really a starting offensive line,
they had a bunch of backups in there, and they
still were able to move the ball pretty effectively, especially
in that second half. I mean credit to the coach
defense for you know, having two takeaways, which I think
ultimately changes games more than anything else. But you know,
if you look at those two takeaways, those two resont takeaways,
(16:42):
they won by two touchdowns. I mean, other than that,
they had no stocks I mean Justin Herbert had a
field there against that defense, that secondary, and then again
I would think that, Okay, if you get Mooney war back,
you can upgrade your defense a little bit. Jayleen Jones
hopefully he's back at some point this season, But I
don't see any like you know, any reinforce is coming
right now on your roster for that, you know, defensive line,
(17:03):
which Kevin, you know your harps on it a lot.
You invested a lot, but hell, if you think this
team can actually win it well going to run, then
you might want to invest more.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, I would endorse all of that, and I would
also add this to James. You know, we did see
yesterday a couple injuries to that defensive line room Taekwon
Lewis and Samson Evicom. So you know there isn't I think,
really anyone waiting in the wings. I don't expect all
of a sudden JT Twom allowed to strike gold in
this rookie season. You bring up, Okay, Travarius Ward back
whatever in a month, and you know, maybe Jyaln Jones
(17:32):
helps you out. You know, there could be some answers
at corner. I don't see those answers. There's only one
defensive end even on the practice squad, Like, there's really
nothing that I see of this is necessarily going to change.
And right now you are the force buckner splitting double
teams or seemingly nothing exactly.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
And I think going into yesterday's game, I'll still kind
of petering on, like, ah, should they be all in?
Is this for real? But I'm like, look at that
offense man in the way Shane Stacking has little guy's rolling.
I'm like, you do not want to waste this. You
do not want this opportunity to pass you by. And
again you look at the rest of the AFC. There
are vulnerable teams. There's still great teams out there, the Bills,
(18:13):
and you see the Chiefs starting to roll. But I
don't feel like there's this juggernaut or these juggernaut teams
that you can't compete with. You've shown you can compete
with them. You had a great statement win yesterday. But
I think within that statement, like I said in my story,
you said another statement of Chris Baller, like hey, do
you make you know this move? And so I saw
him back to the game, shook his hands and I
told him I said, man, how about that offense? And
(18:34):
he just kind of looked at me and winked, and
I was thinking, Ah, I didn't bring up the defense.
I'm going to keep you in a good move. But
you know, I know, I know in the back of
his mind he has to be thinking about at least
a little.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Bit anything else. You need to report back from Los Angeles?
Everything good. Did you find a little jug of beer?
What was going on?
Speaker 8 (18:49):
Ah?
Speaker 7 (18:50):
Nah, no jugg of beer. I got sea my college
best friends. Out to David Sevadra, who I grew up
with back in Romeoville. He moved out west like four
years ago, so I saw him for the first time
in over a year. Good to see him and this show.
Out to listener Cole, who's flying back to Phoenix. He's
the Colts Phoenix fan. Saw me in the airport a
few minutes to go and said, Hey, love the show,
Love what you guys are doing. And yeah, Usually when
(19:10):
I get approchrom the airport early in the morning, I'm like,
this is a good thing. This is a bad thing.
I don't know what's going to happen here, but he
was a pretty supportive of what we do, fellas, So
keep up the great work.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
All right, buddy, travels safe and we'll talk to you soon.
Thanks for checking anybody.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
All right, man, I think it easier it is.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
James Boyd covers the Colts for the Athletic of course,
are third person here on the Fan morning show, joining
us from lax there. So I wass good there. But yeah,
as much fun as we want to have with the offense,
and we're going to celebrate it today. It's a victory Monday,
there's no question about that. But now you start looking
at holes that the Colts have because you say to yourself,
all right, for the long haul, if they are really
going to truly compete this year, and it looks like
(19:45):
they might, maybe they need to make a move or
two defensively, Kevin, what's in play? I mean, what would
you be willing to give up for what? Right now?
Those are the things we'll talk about all week, I suppose,
But you start thinking about it, don't you.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yeah, you know, you look at a lot of these teams.
I know the Miami name have been brought up of
Bradley Chubb and Jalen Phillips. I when you look at
some of these teams that will be drafting in all
likelihood in the top ten. You know, can you trade
a middleish round pick for an edge rusher. You obviously
are not going to find whatever Max Crosby and Miles
Garrett and those types of guys, but can you inject
a little bit of life into that room? And I
(20:19):
think it's really necessary. I mean I was adamant all
week long that this was a foam with the mouth
game for the Colts defensive line, and the Colts internally
thought it was times a million. They could not believe
what the Chargers offensive line looked like. And yet you
don't sack Herbert until what thirty seventh past attempt of
the game. And like, I know, JJ Watt and I
(20:40):
and Eagle or no Eagle, I should say, made a
iron eagle. I'm trying to get no Eagles doing the
Notre Dame game on Saturday night. A great job with
Todd blackledch.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
But they made it.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
You know, Okay, Herbert doesn't get sack. You know, he
does a great job of, you know, knocking guys off
of him. I mean, the Chargers were bottom eight this
year in sacks allowed. I mean, Herbert and sacked seventeen
times this season. It's not like he's invincible from getting sacked,
and right now, with Buckner commanding so much double team action,
it's amazing to me that the Colts can't win one
(21:12):
on one more in other places. So that is an
area that I would look at two weeks from tomorrow,
that's the trade deadline, and I view edg Rusher as
more of the area to look at than Corner.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
How worried are you when you bring it right in
the middle of the season, though, that he's able to
kind of integrate into what you're doing and pick you
up right away, because we've seen some midseason trades end
up working out fine, but sometimes it just takes a
while for everything to kind of come together and you
don't always get the jolt to the extent that you
were looking for.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Yeah, I mean, it's probably not going to be seamless seamless,
but I do think ed Rusher can be a position
where Hey, pin your ears back and it's third and
eight and go make a play and you don't have to,
you know, incorporate them into seventeen different communication aspects of
hey know this term and know that term, and yeah,
sure there's some stunts and some other things that they're
probably gonna need to learn. But pass rush, I think
is one of the positions out there where it's, hey,
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you know what to do. Go get that quarterback and
try to beat that ofphense tackle off the edge.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I don't think bring this up because I know so
many people have brought it up to me, whether it's
online or an email, and we've had callers and texters
talk about it. Is a guy like Trey Hendrickson in
play because doesn't seem like he's a long term answer
for the Bengals down there, the way things went in
the offseason, they admitted him long term. What do you do?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
I assume the Bengals are still trying to win, right,
you'd think so? I mean then they trade for Flaco
for a reason, didn't they? I mean they won the
other night, So yeah, I would assume, given Zach Taylor
on the hot seat, that they would still be trying
to win. So yeah, I don't view Hendrickson as realistic.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
And that's my point, like, what do you think the
level of player is that you can attain at this point?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yeah? Again, middle of shround, pick, I think you need
to be looking at you know, I brought up the
Miami Dolphins earlier. I mean, these teams that are drafting
in the top ten of the world, that's what you
have to look at, you know, cast offs, teams that
are you know, likely going to be probably sellers at
the deadline. I don't think you're looking in the world
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of again Hendrickson's and Garrett's and Crosby's, but you know,
for some reason, like Matthew Judon's names popping in my head,
like those types of pass rushers, and maybe not the
top flight guys, but you know, some of the whatever
first or second pass rushers on you know, top ten
drafting teams. And if you can find an area where
hey it's a new GM or it's a new head coach,
or we might not be buried to the previous regimes
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defensive personnel, those would be some of the ones that
I would look at.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, and we can get some individual texts coming up
here a minute, but that's the big thing, like get
some pass rush. This team is going to be cooking
with gas, and so we start to think about what's
possible out there and what's realistic and all those kinds
of things. But folks like Mike, you know, I don't
necessarily disagree with him when he says, just pull the
wallet out, first round pick, get the man we need
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from Cincinnat. I guarantee the super Bowl right now. The
iron's hot. That the reason I asked you that question,
Kevin is kind of your answer there. Bengals haven't thrown
the white flag up yet, not after that performance the
other night, and so they they're probably gonna be holding
onto folks and they know they're getting Joe Burrow back
at some point.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
It takes two to tango, and you need to find
the teams that are selling selling, and I don't view
Cincinnati as selling right now. But again, two weeks total
the trade deadline. So what happens over the next two weeks.
Do more teams become sellers that maybe aren't necessarily sellers
right now?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Yeah, I mean you will have roster decisions, so like
mortgaging your first round draft pick while you're looking at
six and one and everything like that. You also have
to be realistic, like there are still holes on this roster,
even as good as we've played, that maybe we need
to instead of going fully in on like a Trey
Hendrickson or something like that, that might cost us multiple
picks in twenty twenty six and beyond, do we need
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to make the you know, have some reservations and kind
of keep those available for adding to the roster because
there's some guys that are going to be not on
this team next year. And even you still we'll have
the quarterback situation figured out. I know we all expect
like a Daniel Jones' contact extension down in the near
future maybe, but as of now, you don't have an
answer there just yet.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Well, and I just view like, okay, pass rusher in
corner that seems to be the debate right now from fans. Okay,
which if you are going to make a trade here
in the next couple of weeks, what position do you trade?
I think both are important, let me be clear, but
I think pass rush matters more to me. I looked
at Sunday as hey, if your pass rush can really
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step up against Justin Herbert, that can alleviate some of
the stress that you're going to put on a really
depleted secondary. And yet that's not how the game played
out at all. And again, that pass rush entering the
game was very, very healthy and hadn't lived up to it.
In my opinion this season so far, so I would
give the nod to trading for a pass rushing more
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than I would corner. I just think that's an area
where if you can disrupt timing with the front, then
all of a sudden, you're not asking your secondary to
hold up for five, six, seven seconds because I don't
care who you are. You can have a bunch of
whatever you know, Stefan Gilmore in their primes back there
and you're not gonna be able to hold up for
six seven seconds.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Here's one point Evan ol Maddy was saying. He just
texted and he said, I hear what you guys are
saying about d line, But in the first half, Herbert
was getting the ball out really quick. Any validity to
that that you have a quarterback that just is not
gonna let you get to him in the first half.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah, I hear the old the quarterbacks are giving the
ball out really quickly. I almost hear it every week
with the Colts. I think they should be getting more
disruption from a defensive line that has a slew of first, second,
third round picks, major money invested in it. I mean
the Chargers literally started what their fifth and sixth offensive tackle.
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Did you see how many times the Chargers subbed offensive
lineman in during the game. I don't know if I've
ever seen, like every other place, seemingly a new Chargers
offensive lineman going in the game. Oh, this guy hobbles
off all the way. Now now he's back in two
plays later and they got dudess run on the field.
I'm like, that dude should not be playing. And next
thing you know, there he is out there trying to
pass block. So I just hear a lot of excuses
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for the defensive line.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Right now, here's the one thing I'll point out. We
talk about getting better on defense, and I think if
you're going to try to make a run for it
this year and you're six and one, why not you
do need to add something there. But having said that,
I know it hasn't been the strongest schedule. I give
that caveat. But plus ninety two. To put that into perspective,
the Lions tonight are also would be playing their seventh
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game of the year. They need to score forty four
points if they would want to make up that difference
to be the number one team in point differential, Kevin,
they have to outscore their opponent by forty four tonight
to do that. That's how far ahead the Colts are
right now.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, I mean they're the most dominant team in the
NFL bar none. And you know, again, I let off
the show with this, and I'll kind of go back there.
I think, what if you're a Colts fan, I think
what you're most encouraged by yesterday? Yes, your offense was surgical,
but you met the moment. The Colts circled yesterday's game
on the schedule, they circled it. That game meant more
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to the Colt I think it met more to the
Colts in the Chargers, frankly, And I'm fine with that.
I'm fine with whatever. Shane Stiken spent nine years there,
so naturally he's gonna have a little chip on his shoulder.
I'm fine with Hey, look at the schedule so far.
We're not going to totally ignore it. We realize that
you know, Harball Herbert and you know a team that's
made the playoffs couple times in the last few years.
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Those haven't been the weekly opponents. So how are we
going to react to a little bit of a higher
state game, a little bit more of a measuring stick game.
I think when those moments have arisen for this franchise lately,
albeit mostly at the end of the season, they haven't
met the moment. And yesterday, like watch Quentin Nelson's reaction
at the final gun yesterday, that man's hopping around like
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they just hit a game winning field goal to win
the division. That's you don't see guys react to fourteen
point wins in the middle of October like that very often.
And yet I think, like watch that postgame locker room
celebration yesterday, these guys, I think treated this game in
a different light. That's fine, meet that moment and they,
I mean they one thousand percent did you say from
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the start? They set the tone early on. Sure, you
want more out of your defense, but when your offense
is able to build that lead, net crossing Grover Stewart
make those plays which not enough is probably being talked
about by both those plays. I mean, I know James
mentioned it when he just when we just had him on,
but without those plays, I mean, it could be a
totally different game. The Chargers almost going toe to toe
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with you scoring wise, those were huge, huge plays in
the game.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
It's fan Morning show, give us a call. In a
few minutes, we'll do the pulse of cultinations, see what's
going on and how you feel about your team right
now at six and one nine ten seventy. Not only
the number to call, that's the fan text line as well.
Two three, nine, ten seventy. We'll get to some of
those in the meantime. For a couple of minutes, I
want to talk some college football. Fernando Mendoza, according to
his coach Kurt Signetti, had his best game of the year,
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fundamentally decisions, running the offense the way he wants it run.
He was talking about that in the post game. Twenty
four of twenty eight for three hundred and thirty two
yards and four touchdowns. And I can't say enough about
guys like Omar Cooper and Elijah Surat, and they're running
the ball with such balance all over the place. Like
you want to talk about a team. I know, Michigan
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State's not the greatest team. They were three and three
coming in, but Inana just looks like they look for real. Kevin,
It's fun to watch them look for real. Doesn't feel
like any kind of facade at all. They're the number
two team in the country.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Yeah, big day for Omar Cooper as well. Just love
the way that he plays. There's some baby Deebo Samuel
in his game. I thought a huge play kind of
early in the first half. They went for the fourth
and two and then I want to say, the next
play after that, maybe black ripsat that huge touchdown run there.
And that was still kind of a back and forth
first half to a degree there. Obviously you had a
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little bit of the weather delay at halftime. But it
is funny like watching that game, seeing the final score
and it's like we have to retrain our brains with
Indiana football, Like it was kind of a sluggish first half.
You know, you don't cover, but then it's but then
it's like, wait, wait a minute, Indiana football just won
a conference game by twenty five points, Like what usually
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you're celebrating any big ten win. Let alone won by
twenty five points in like whatever that weather was there
after mainly after halftime there. So yes, beyond deserving that
number two ranking, they are a huge face. I will
surprise the UCLA line was as big as it is.
Twenty four and a half coming up, big noon kickoff,
so you'll get the Fox crew there in Bloomington. They'll
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get UCLA at the nine am local time with the
noon kickoff in Bloomington coming up on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
It's gonna be fun to watch. But I keep thinking
of that game, and I watched. I went back and
watched both plays a couple of times yesterday, the forty
eight yard touchdown pass that he threw to Omar Cooper
Junior right in stride. And then you want to talk
about drop one in the bucket to Elijah Suratt there
at the end, not at the end, but but one
of his last touchdowns there I was a twenty seven yarder.
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He's throwing with confidence, he's throwing on time, He's hitting
guys in stride while they're moving forward, like everything feels good.
When you want.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Dots, right, is that what the young kids say dots?
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I don't know. We'll ask Mark.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Yes, sure, not a lot.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Of dots from Caleb Williams yesterday.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
But yeah, didn't need to Jeandre Swift one and all
over the place.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Sure, Daniel Jones a lot of dots, and Bernana Mendoza
a lot of dots right now? Is he still the
Heisman favorite?
Speaker 2 (32:32):
He's one of them? How about the kid from Vanderbilt
all of a sudden.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Pavia, that's where game day is coming up?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Right I could you know he's.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Got some manzeltah he does, hopefully mostly on the field.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Their number ten. Can you imagine a world if I'd
have told you fifteen years from oh yeah, twenty twenty five,
Indiana is gonna be ranting number two and Vanderbilt is
going to be ten.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Mendoza is the second favorite for the Heisman right now?
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Who's number one?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
The Bama kid up there?
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Simpson number one?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yep, where's Jeremiah Top five? Ish, top seven ish eighth eight?
Speaker 4 (33:04):
That's all after plus two thousand if you want to.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Getting so disrespected, like I feel that way about Jonathan
Taylor in the NFL right now and Derek Henry in
years past. I remember like b John Robinson is like
way low in the Heisman Awards list whenever his.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Year was CJ. Car tenth.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Let That to me is laughable that Jeremiah Love is
only two spots above CJ.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Car.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Jeremy Love is easily one of the best players in
college football. Jeremiah Love plus two thousand, CJ. Car plus
five thousand. You want to throw a little money there,
head of the Pacers.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I think Love is incredible, but Notre Dame is not
gonna have enough marquee moments to final five games this
season for him to if he's eighth right.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Now or Monday morning, Notre Dame cavin right there.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Well, no, I'm just being a realist. What their schedule
looks like the rest of the way.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
They're getting better as they go, better as they get very.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Very happy with where Notre Dame is at. But look
at their schedule the rest of the way.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I love the fact that they still have schedule. They
don't have that. I mean, they could sit there. Can
you imagine Notre Dame could pick and choose and they'll
just do like maybe two three tough games and then
just roll everybody else for the rest of the year.
They could do that.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
I was a little I was like, I'm so glad
they have a schedule. And you said that. I was like, well, no,
are they just going to stop playing?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
No? No, they had they They continued here and wait
they and say we're a playoff team. And in every
other place you know, teams are trying to Now we
see it in the early part of the season. Not
every team wants to play really tough competition. Notre Dame
keep scheduling. They've been scheduling. I like it, just do
their thing.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
And they overcame you visiting the USC campus. I was
not somehow that.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Well, but I waited until the football team was actually gone.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yeah, jeffs sending me pictures of Heisman trophies at USC.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Mark over they got a little replica of Reggie Bush's
Heisman trophy in their little Hall of Champions, And I'm
thinking that probably wasn't there five years ago.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Did you bury like a Notre Dame Hatton on the
campus somewhere for Kevin?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
No? I should have Kevin, I, I should have should have
gone like a little rogue there on.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Sixth night as he's petting the Heisman trophy like it's
a young puppy.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I didn't touch.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
I was afraid to be considering Heisman trophies at USA
might get taken away, so it might be like see
it while it's there, but then it comes back.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
See that's how that works, all right. Coming up in
a moment, we'll talk more with you about the Colts.
Your feedback at two three nine ten seventy, both on
the text line and on the phone as we continue
a victory Monday here at ninety three to five and
one on seven five the fans well with Kevin Bowen
and the recently return from more time off Mark Dyton.
We appreciate you being here this morning.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Thanks for having me. I'm glad the key carts still work.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Still works. We got James Boyd en route back to
Indianapolis from Los Angeles as we speak. We spoke to
him from the airport about an hour ago. It seems
like it's it's pretty much consensus everybody watching this game
who covers it, and even the fans love the offense
right now, happy with the defense doing enough to win.
But if they're going to be true contenders this year, Kevin,
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they're going to have to find a consistent pass rutch,
not just bothering guys occasionally in the second half. But
you got to start getting to the quarterback finish changing
because it changes the way the quarterback operates moving forward.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Finishing yep. Justin Herbert's played what I guess eighty some
games in his career, and yesterday was a career high
for him passing yardage. So I get some of that
little window dressing there to end the game. But still
you know those Nick crosscover student interceptions, great plays, huge
plays in the game, but you know, naturally getting off
the field, that's been a struggle right now, So Mitch
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it all morning long. I think the trade deadline calls
for a pass rusher, and that's what I think is
necessary for this team. And we did see a couple of injuries.
Samson Evacom and Quitty Pay on the d line both
get hurt in the game yesterday, so you know, I
would argue performance and potentially now healthy bodies available, you
need some attention there not really much on the practice squad,
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one guy Durell and Jommy who really hasn't played in
the NFL. So I think it's needed because you know,
you look at some of these quarterbacks in the wild
card picture right now, Herbert Alan Mahomes. I mean, these
are some of the teams you could be seen, uh
you know, in your own building potentially in around one
of the playoffs, depending on how the number one seed
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will go and how the bye will go.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
So it's needed, all right, you're ready to do some
goats of the week. I know James is not here
to participate. We are the good, the bad, the ugly.
It's it's time, Mark, who is the goat? I'd go
with you all that I was the greatest of all time.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
Shorty, here's Michael at the filine.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I shot on em.
Speaker 8 (37:29):
Got or goat? This guy sucks of the week.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
You want to start good or bad? Here? Mark? You
tell me, then start right well, sometimes you want to
finish on a high. Sometimes go the other way. All right,
we'll start with the good. We'll let you go first
into just returning.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Sure, all right, guys, yeah, I know I returned from
a week off. But what what year is it again?
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Twenty twenty five?
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Twenty twenty five, and the top two teams in the AFC.
In the AFC are the Indianapolis Colts and New England Patriots.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
The rivalry is back on.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
We have a renewed rival down our hands here it is,
but we have Brady and Manning partduce Jones versus Jones,
I'm sorry, Jones versus Drake May. That is what we're
looking at right now, Patriots and Colts atop the AFC.
I wouldn't have predicted that heading into the season. I
don't know who would have. But could you imagine the
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AFC Championship Colts versus Patriots and Lucas Oil Stadium Chris Ballad.
Chris Ballad would be giddy, the fan base would be giddy.
It would be nice to see that rivalry mean something again,
as it kind of lost its luster as the Colts
went through the quarterback abyss. So I like seeing the
Patriots atop the AFC. I like seeing the Cult to
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top the AFC. Those games having some meaning in would be.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Very good for the sport of You might be the
only one in the city likes to see the Patriots
the top the AFC.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
I would like to see the rivalry renewed.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
The rivalry is back. Damn right. That's well done.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Mark dyk k May very good, Yeah, very good.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Kevin Bowen, who you like so much?
Speaker 3 (39:20):
I gotta go back to what was it? Friday night?
And James Boyd said this quite often. One thing he
hates about baseball is he can't run his best player
necessarily out there every day.
Speaker 8 (39:31):
Now.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
He means it more from a pitching standpoint of course,
than a hitting standpoint. Well, for one night, sho Heeotani
told James Boyd, hold my jug of beer. Otani six
and a third shutout innings, strikes out ten, he hits
not one, not two, but three home runs in what
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is undeniably considering the stage as well, one of the
greatest individual games bar nun in the history of America's pastime.
There one dude dominating a baseball game. You don't get it,
and Joey o Tani did that on Friday Night. Absolutely
goat performance from three.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
He's almost he's closing it on Ady Mitchell, No I
said this. I didn't watch all of the game once
I was clued into it by my phone. I was
checking a little bit of out on the phone because
was that with my son. But I went back and
watched some of it, at least the extended highlights for
Major League Baseball. I don't know in my lifetime if
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there's ever been a more complete baseball game out of anybody.
I've been watching baseball forever in my life for a
long long time. To do one thing, I mean, we'd
be talking about a great performance just on the mound
Kevin for ten strikeouts in that setting. To send you
to a World Series game, but then to come back
with not just three home runs but one of them
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is a tent measure home run. I mean that thing
might still be going goat incredible. I don't know what
else you say other than that.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
It's very rare that in a sport like baseball you
see that kind of single handed performance from one player
just dominate to a victory everybody, and he makes it
look so easy he does. It was breathaking. It was
absolutely incredible.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
It was insane. So yeah, that was my goats as well.
And I don't mind doubling up and talking about Shoe
Haltani because I've never seen anything like that. I've never
seen anything like that. All right, bad, go to the week.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
Okay. I wasn't a big fan of last night's Sunday
Night game. I thought it was a bit of a
dud quite frankly between the Falcons and the forty nine ers.
But we're really stuck in my craw was then seeing
the promo for next week's Sunday Night game, and I'm
a A I'm at a crossroads, folks, because it is
the Packers against the Steelers in Pittsburgh. So I have
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the hated Green Bay Packers, yes they do, and then
going up against Aaron Rodgers, Now, I know that's sexy
from a TV standpoint, Aaron Rodgers facing his former team.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Marks pray for a meteor.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
I don't you're knocking, You're not far off. I don't
know what I want to happen. I certainly don't want
either team to win necessarily. Maybe the Steelers, but Aaron
Rodgers maybe throws for like eighty yards and four interceptions
or something. Maybe it's a ground game kind of victory.
I'm disgusted by next week's Sunday night game. I don't
know where I'm going, but yeah, media or might not
be too far off.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Kevin.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Yeah, I'm gonna defend my young childhood friend. That would
be the one, the only Kyle Klein here, He texts me.
I rate about Michigan State kicking a field goal down
twenty eight points in the final minute in Bloomington on Saturday,
and that field goal went in and that field goal
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covered the spread changed Michigan State, Mark Dyton, can you
agree on me with us? No final two minute field
goals to decide to spread in a game that is
greater than a ten point margin. Are good with that?
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (42:58):
I'd agree both because Kurtzygnetti kicked a field goal on
the other side like a minute earlier to then get
you over the spread. No field goals allowed in the
final two minutes of games where the spread is on
the line. Obviously, I know it's a ridiculous ask by me.
This will never happen, But for our gamblers out there,
this is necessary, particularly in the college game when everything
comes down to the little walk on kicker, to try
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and save face to where you can tell your buddies, hey,
at least I covered the spread. We need this, we
already fall on, like the safety, like the on purpose
safety to like run the clock that is blaspheming as well,
like what Mendoza did against Iowa. Yes, that needs to
be obliterated as well.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
All right, in that spirit, I'm gonna go. Did you
guys see the end of the half of Michael PENNOCKX
last night? Falcons forty minutes vaguely? All right?
Speaker 4 (43:45):
And that game was not most entertaining.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
No, but it was a close game. So every point's
gonna count, right, and Atlanta's is at the twenty two
yard line of San Francisco into the first half. They're
threatening to cut into a ten to three lead before
the break, so they could even if the field goal. Well, now,
it's just a one, you know, one touchdown game to
take the lead. But with seventeen seconds to go on
the clock, Michael Pennix Junior, he's backed pass, he's under pressure.
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He throws the ball out of bounds, but he was
still well inside the tackle box. That triggered an intentional
grounding penalty, and because the ball hit the ground of
the ten second mark, they had the runoff. And you
get no points on the road in a close game
because you're just not managing the clock. I say this
again and again, and I say it on behalf of
my buddy Jim at Sunrise. It drives him crazy. Some
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of the clock management you see at the highest level
in the NFL. It seems like there's one or two
games every week where we scratch our head and go,
what are they doing, Kevin? At the highest level, don't
they have one person on the sideline who's just managing
clock and saying, Okay, if this is what we got
to do on this play, be careful of an intentional
ground and be careful you don't run out the clock.
Take care of this stuff. Yeah, why does this happen
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over and over? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:53):
I don't know. It's a great, great question. Yes, there
are people hired specifically for that.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Yeah, I just I can't imagine at that level. But
there's clock management the way that it is, so I
guess collectively, but in the form of Michael Pennox last night,
that's Mike Got of the Week, bad got of the week?
All right, coming up just a moment, we'll get more
of your feedback. Two three, nine, ten seventy. It's a
victory Monday all over the place for all kinds of teams.
We'll talk about it as we continue on a Monday morning.
I hope you're having a terrific start to the day.
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Ninety three five and one oh seveny five of the
Fan
You're listening to the best of the Fan Morning Show
on ninety three five and one oh seven five The Fan.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
They Touched It.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
He sees the Fan Morning Show with Kami, Shaby and Jeff.
Now Fernando has Henby to his right. Man comes in motion.
Mendoza takes the staff, hands to Hendy.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Right up the gun he passes. Late in the episode,
a terrific.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Car run and Indiana will take the lead.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Right back, Fernando takes the snaff, gets the Hanby Hemmy
drives his wife touch the Indiana Robert Hemmy gets into
the end zone from two yards out and Indiana's got
the lead. Fernando takes the staff. They pressure in the
throat of the Enzo touchstaf PJ Wow, what a play.
It was actually sad who made the catch.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Here's the step back to more.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
He throws it to the innisa intercepted by Indiana, but who's.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Just come up with it at Isaiah Jones comes up.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
With a picker. N I guess the football.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
Back again back to the line of scrimmage and Jonathan
Taylor took a hand off right side from Daniel Jones
and skippers into the end.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Zone from twenty three yards out.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
Shotgun snap and Jones throwze up field. Michael Pittman down, Yes, sir,
we're down at seventeen now for the Colts, moving back
to the twenty seven yard line. Empty set for Jones,
has good protection and he's going to take a deep
shot down field for Almen Pears. He's got it and
over the show of their touches made inside the thirty
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yard line.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Of the Chargers.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
Shotgun snap for the quarterback. Good protection, fires.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
In the end zone.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
Titler award touchdown in d why with a spike into
the end zone, and the Colts are perfect today.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Three touchdowns on three drives.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Herbert looks that way, initially scanning over to his right.
Throws in the end zone, picked up Nick Cross, took
it away from the receiver. Here Abdullah from the five
on the kick off twenty five, he's at the THIRTI
he's got the forties at the fifty yard line. Now
the first tideline, he's got to Tan thirty twenty and
he's pushed.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Out a baoance inside the.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Twenty yard line.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Taylor in motion jet sweep to him. Taylor turns the corner.
He's at the five, looking for the pylon.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Is he in no signal yet? He has a touchdown.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
High snap for Jones, but he pulls it down. Get
to the Taylor marching too, is right, he's at the
bucks down the track. But the again for Jonathan Taylor.
Three rushing touchdowns for the greatest running back going right now.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Not that you care, but those of us in the outside,
I think are a little surprised just how well this
team is playing to start the season. What do we
need to know about this group that maybe we didn't
know going into the year.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I mean, I don't know. It sounds like sounds like y'
didn't know much.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
But we're just gonna keep going, keep working, and we
have a lot of confidence. I think we got a
lot of good players, guys who.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Work hard and do the right things.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
It just shows that, hey, when you come to playoffs,
going to be a four quarter match, similar to how
it was today. We're gonna fight, scratching a claw until
that clock straight zero.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I love this league. I love it to death. I
love this organization.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
I love these players, I love our owners man, and
it takes all of us.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It's so special.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
It's so special, right, And don't ever lose this feeling, man,
don't ever lose it.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Right, she can fight every day to be the best.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
First, you gotta like this.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Good morning. Things are going well here in the state
of Indiana. Football is all over the place and everybody
is man. I don't know, bowing down as opposed to Indiana.
They are ranks number two, second in all of college football.
Good morning, Kevin Bowen. James Boyd will join us from
lax at some point this morning. He's still out in
Los Angeles where the the Colts gotta be going over
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the Chargers and a bunch of bananas running around the
field yesterday. But KB a number two ranking for Indiana,
and we're gonna spend a lot of time on the
Colts in six and one, and we should first time
non manning e since they've been to Indianapolis. They've been
six and one. But I just my mind is getting
blown by the Indiana Hoosiers weekend and week out right now.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Mark Dyton, welcome back, lovely opening montage there. Hope you
had a great trip. Colts bear super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I wouldn't go that way there just yet.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
They're not.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
They're looking mighty good right now.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Your bear's playing some decent football as well. Yeah, it's yeah,
it's amazing. The football world revolves around the state of
Indiana and this is the year of twenty twenty five.
It's incredible. You know, last Monday, we have felt the
need to start with IU. I feel the need to
start with the Colts because I don't want to make
too much over mid October win. But that game to
me meant more to the Colts. I think they alluded
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to that publicly. Privately I know it meant more to
the Colts. And when moments have been risen if you will,
in recent years, I don't think the Colts have met
the moment. And again it's mid October. But for you
to go out there win a game that you held
in higher regard, I think a lot of people held
it in high regard, and not only win the game,
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but win the game in the fashion that you did
it matters. It is yet another win by fourteen or
more points. It's now the fourth time they've done that
in seven games. And the offense is just a wagon.
It's an absolute wagon. And Shane stike In is the
maestro of it all.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Well, they are rolling offensively, as you said, on all cylinders,
and it almost feels like they're almost using pass to
set up run. They've been running teams to death in
the second half. In the first half, Shane Stike and
just dialing up whatever he wants to dial up with
the passing game, and it seems to be working right now.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Actually, yesterday they ran it more early on. You know,
I thought the end of the first quarter you had
Taylor and Amir Abooli even had a couple carries. They
both I think combined for like eighty yards in the
first quarter, sixty seventy something yards in the first quarter,
which is kind of the reverse of what they have done.
But that's the thing, is their offensive balance right now
is clinical, it's surgical, it's you know, really whatever they
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want to do, they're doing it amazing amount of balance.
They stay away from the negatives. And like, were you
ever truly worried, No, because the Chargers weren't going to
stop you. And yeah, the Chargers obviously were able to
move up and down the field a couple of huge
plays by Nick Cross and Grover Stewart there, but there
was no way that the Chargers were actually going to
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stop the Colts for whatever, you know, amount of times
they needed to to truly get back in that game.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Oh, I am here for any three hundred and thirty
pound guy that not only bats is a pass up
into the air, but then locates and finds his batted
pass up into the air. That was my favorite play
all that game. Yes, Jack, I love I love that.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
That was the bench clearing celebration, not a bench clearing brawl.
That was the bench clearing celebration for Grover Stewart. And
what I mean those plays by Grover and Nick Cross
were huge. I think you heard Mark. I think was
that Charles Harbuckle maybe in the background saying wow at
the Nit Cross interception. I mean, you go back and
watch that replay. That's a hell of a play by
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Cross on the one hander there the haul it in
the end zone. So yeah, I mean defensively, you certainly
have some questions, and especially with that pass rush, But
offensively right now, who's stopping them? Nobody?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
All I can tell people who say, well, you know,
they played a beat up Chargers team and they didn't
really completely dominate the passer with a bunch of backups
in there and all those kinds of things. They beat
a really good team that's coached by a really good coach.
And those guys that are backing up are still professional
football players. Now are they starters? And do you want
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to get more out of your defensive line? Of course
you do. But that's some pretty decent numbers. Yesterday. They
didn't dominate that defensive front, but they didn't have to
at this point in time, and they're still banged up
and missing some people in the secondary. It all works together.
All I know is every week people like, well, this
team was missing that, this team is not. So All
I know is they just keep hammering people to your point.
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The fourth time, that's a two touchdown win in the
National Football I don't care what the circumstances are are.
They're playing who's lined up in front of them, They're
taking care of business, and it feels like and it
looks like Kevin, they're getting better as the season goes along,
which is what you want. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
A couple of areas like red zone struggled early in
the season. Right now, the only time they don't score
in the red zone is because they stop themselves from scoring.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I e.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
The first half yesterday, that's where the red zone streak
was snapped and it's unfortunate, but they settle for a
field goal by their own doing. And then penalties. You know,
early on in the season there were a couple of
big penalty games and now they have gotten that number
to be a little bit lower. So I definitely think
they have some questions defensively that still need to be answered.
And I you know, wrote on one of them five
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the fan, I think they should be entertaining a trade
for a pass rusher. Yeah. I thought that was the
one true disappointing elements yesterday was the lack of just
controlling that aspect to the game, because the Chargers were
decimated off as a tackle. But offensively right now, I mean,
is it's clinical, it's surgical, it's whatever they want to do.
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It's Jones, it's Taylor, it's Warren. Here's the Pierce home run. Like,
did we forget Josh Downs didn't play yesterday? I mean,
like he's usually a very key ingredient to the offense.
Did the offense skip a beat without him?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I mean it's it's flawless what they're doing offensively, And
if they wanted to, that number could have been forty
five or fifty two. Yesterday, it just yeah, we're good
to thirty eight and that's all that's probably needed today.
I mean, thirty eight points in an NFL game against
the Chargers defense that you know, scoring wise, hadn't been
too bad, and really the Chargers didn't have many injuries defensively,
They got in Khalil Mack, they gotten Denzel Perryman back,
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So that to me is the one unit right now
that I get there are some tougher defensive challenges waiting,
but right now it's it's absurd what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I An Eagle and JJ Watt were just like in
awe of what they're watching from Shane Stecken's offense, Like
this is kind of insane what they're doing right now.
How they're just just basically doing whatever they wanted and
just the Chargers, no Navil step, a single thing they're doing, Yeah,
is remarkable.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
And to me, again it comes back to just unbelievable
balance offensively, like if we want to run it, we'll
run it. If we want to throw it, we'll throw it.
And Daniel Jones just it probably sounds elementary, but he
finds simple, he finds answers. You know you hear you
know people all the time. Hey, there's an answer to
every play. Well, Daniel Jones seemingly finds it every single play,
and again, it's not the flashiest answer at times. It's
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not third and seventeen the home run balld topears every
single play, but oh, third and ten on the on
the goal line, we'll check it down to a Mira
Abdulla for eight yards. Uh, that'll set up fourth and two. Okay,
change stick can go into your back on fourth and two.
All right, here's a little you know, rpo action where
we're gonna fake like Pittman's blocking. It's a play that
we run so many times, and boom, Michael Pittman Junior
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is wide open the Colts and psychon. They're designed get
dudes wide ass open, high school open, and that just
does not happen in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Not to turn the page already, but did you see
the spread for what it is for the Titans game already?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Like?
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Is this the first time the Colt's been over two
touchdown favorites open to fourteen and fourteen and a half
right now?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I think that would be the second biggest spread in
the entire NFL this season. That's it.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
That's for this Colt's team to touchdown favorites against anybody
who would have thought that heading into the season.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Well here they are, big win on the road beat
the Chargers. Are we in or out on those Chargers' uniforms?
Yesterday they kind of grew on me as the as
the day wore on. But I don't need to see
him more than once.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I prefer to the powder Blue. Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I think somebody does that.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I mean, I don't mind him every once in a while,
but yeah, when I saw Joel Erickson's tweet that these
are hideous, I'm like, what are they wear?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Mustardy? Yes, really mustardy.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Yeah, they pulled out the Savannah banana's locker like.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Not mine's mustard, like like beer mustard sauce.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yeah, my daughters thought the minions were running around on
the field.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, a lot of Savannah bananas. References yesterday to what
they look like.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
They did look like.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yeah, yeah, but didn't mind them, but yeah, powder Blues
should have been the go to.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
All I know is class quite Blue is six and
one and sitting again and still atop the AFC with
an emphatic win, And we've got to talk about the
number two team in the nation, the Indiana Hoosiers. We're
gonna do it all this morning as we continue the
Fan Morning Show, and just a double victory, maybe it's
a triple quadruple victory. Money. It just feels like everything's
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coming up Roses right now. Notre Dame, Kevin. We'll talk
about it all next to ninety three, five and one
of something. Five to another road game, another win for
the Indianapolis Coaster, a two and one away from home,
four and zero at home. They'll be at home again
on Sunday when they take on the Titans. But we've
got the live saver reflect on yesterday's thirty eight twenty
four victory. Kevin Bowen over the Los Angeles Chargers. We
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bring in the third member of our booth, who is
at LAX as we speak overhearing your little conversation with
Mark Dyton here, James Woyd. Sounds like you're through security
and ready to get home, right.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
Yeah, something like that. I got to make sure I
get home for the Shamesiket press conference, which got moved
up an hour today. I flew out as early as
I did.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Good stuff. So here we go. You're joining us on
the paylost lookers hotline talking about another win for the Colts,
and we'll just start with the really good stuff. That
offense feels unstoppable right now. What was it like to
watch in front of your very own eyes, I.
Speaker 7 (13:16):
Mean their machine. I just feel like even with you know,
guys being in and out of the lineup, you know,
he saw it without Josh Downs out there, they didn't
miss a beat. This offense is, in my opinion, the
best of the NFL. And not even an opinion, it's
just a stat. At this point, he was up scoring
so many points it's crazy to me. And then hearing
Mally Cox talk about it after the game, he was like,
you know what, I was trying to tell Tyler Warren
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that this isn't normal, but he was like, it's hard
to keep the rookie humble and tell him that this
isn't happen every week when we keep doing it every week.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
So he was riding high.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
The rest of the group was riding high as well,
and I even asked Daniel Jonathon, does this feel normal
to you because what you're scoring at is pretty historic
and he was just like, well, we expect to do this,
and so I think that just lets you know the
level of that he's playing at and the mindset these
you know, maintaining throughout all the success.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
James, have you ever seen a celebration like the post
Grover Stewart celebration. I thought the entire Colts bench came
out onto the field.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
No, that was the funniest play ever. And he's the
funniest player man, Like he'll make a great play and
then just his reaction in the locker room. Kevin talked
to him about it. I asked him, I say, hey, man,
did you think about taking it to the house. He's like,
I've had a little most spaces I would have been
making it to the house. So he's an hilarious player,
great player, and you know, someone who I think obviously
deserves a moment like that, because as you saw throughout
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the season, he had tipped a couple passes for other
guys get interceptions. So he finally got one from himself.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
We were talking about Daniel Jones a few minutes ago
and the fact that he just keeps making great decisions.
He's taking really good care of the football, and he's
spreading the ball around. You know, it could be it's
always gonna be Jonathan Taylor doing his thing, but from
a receiving perspective, Josh Downs we missed him yesterday, but
we didn't miss him from on the field because they
just keep finding ways to do things like what's it
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like to talk to those guys after the game when
everything's working offensively right now?
Speaker 7 (15:06):
I think the conversation afterwards was, you know, let's keep
this rolling.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And one of my.
Speaker 7 (15:11):
Biggest takeaways I threw it in my story. I believe
it's up right now at the Athletics was talking to
Maley Cox. He said, hey, well, Reggie Wayne said, when
we were rolling back in the day, are saying was
just like last week, I meaning they were gonna win
just like last week. And so you heard that saying
that motto kind of be yelled out in the locker
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room over and over again from offmantive player defensive players,
and so they expect to do this weekend and week out.
And I think at this point we have to ask
ourselves with how great this offense is, how all in
should Chris ballor be to upgrading that defense because the
defense they got off the field when they get not
at the most. But again they flirted with disaster. I
thought in the second.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Half, James, do you think they should be more willing
to trade for a cornerback or an edge rusher.
Speaker 7 (15:59):
That's a great question, and I probably looked for a
dead rusher as rushers at this point. You look at
the highest played players in the league. It's quarterback, who
protects the quarterback, who gets after the quarterback, And I
just don't think they have anybody who doesn't consistently outside
of the Forest Buckner. I mean, yes, Grover Stewart is
great at run stopping, got an interception yesterday, and like
I said, default holds it down. But the rest of
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that group, to me, just hasn't done enough. Even on
the day where I thought the Chargers, you know, they
were banged up, they didn't have really a starting offensive line,
they had a bunch of backups in there, and they
still were able to move the ball pretty effectively, especially
in that second half. I mean credit to the coach
defense for you know, having two takeaways, which I think
ultimately changes games more than anything else. But you know,
if you look at those two takeaways, those two resont takeaways,
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they won by two touchdowns. I mean, other than that,
they had no stocks I mean Justin Herbert had a
field there against that defense, that secondary, and then again
I would think that, Okay, if you get Mooney war back,
you can upgrade your defense a little bit. Jayleen Jones
hopefully he's back at some point this season, But I
don't see any like you know, any reinforce is coming
right now on your roster for that, you know, defensive line,
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which Kevin, you know your harps on it a lot.
You invested a lot, but hell, if you think this
team can actually win it well going to run, then
you might want to invest more.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, I would endorse all of that, and I would
also add this to James. You know, we did see
yesterday a couple injuries to that defensive line room Taekwon
Lewis and Samson Evicom. So you know there isn't I think,
really anyone waiting in the wings. I don't expect all
of a sudden JT Twom allowed to strike gold in
this rookie season. You bring up, Okay, Travarius Ward back
whatever in a month, and you know, maybe Jyaln Jones
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helps you out. You know, there could be some answers
at corner. I don't see those answers. There's only one
defensive end even on the practice squad, Like, there's really
nothing that I see of this is necessarily going to change.
And right now you are the force buckner splitting double
teams or seemingly nothing exactly.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
And I think going into yesterday's game, I'll still kind
of petering on, like, ah, should they be all in?
Is this for real? But I'm like, look at that
offense man in the way Shane Stacking has little guy's rolling.
I'm like, you do not want to waste this. You
do not want this opportunity to pass you by. And
again you look at the rest of the AFC. There
are vulnerable teams. There's still great teams out there, the Bills,
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and you see the Chiefs starting to roll. But I
don't feel like there's this juggernaut or these juggernaut teams
that you can't compete with. You've shown you can compete
with them. You had a great statement win yesterday. But
I think within that statement, like I said in my story,
you said another statement of Chris Baller, like hey, do
you make you know this move? And so I saw
him back to the game, shook his hands and I
told him I said, man, how about that offense? And
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he just kind of looked at me and winked, and
I was thinking, Ah, I didn't bring up the defense.
I'm going to keep you in a good move. But
you know, I know, I know in the back of
his mind he has to be thinking about at least
a little.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Bit anything else. You need to report back from Los Angeles?
Everything good. Did you find a little jug of beer?
What was going on?
Speaker 8 (18:49):
Ah?
Speaker 7 (18:50):
Nah, no jugg of beer. I got sea my college
best friends. Out to David Sevadra, who I grew up
with back in Romeoville. He moved out west like four
years ago, so I saw him for the first time
in over a year. Good to see him and this show.
Out to listener Cole, who's flying back to Phoenix. He's
the Colts Phoenix fan. Saw me in the airport a
few minutes to go and said, Hey, love the show,
Love what you guys are doing. And yeah, Usually when
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I get approchrom the airport early in the morning, I'm like,
this is a good thing. This is a bad thing.
I don't know what's going to happen here, but he
was a pretty supportive of what we do, fellas, So
keep up the great work.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
All right, buddy, travels safe and we'll talk to you soon.
Thanks for checking anybody.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
All right, man, I think it easier it is.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
James Boyd covers the Colts for the Athletic of course,
are third person here on the Fan morning show, joining
us from lax there. So I wass good there. But yeah,
as much fun as we want to have with the offense,
and we're going to celebrate it today. It's a victory Monday,
there's no question about that. But now you start looking
at holes that the Colts have because you say to yourself,
all right, for the long haul, if they are really
going to truly compete this year, and it looks like
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they might, maybe they need to make a move or
two defensively, Kevin, what's in play? I mean, what would
you be willing to give up for what? Right now?
Those are the things we'll talk about all week, I suppose,
But you start thinking about it, don't you.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yeah, you know, you look at a lot of these teams.
I know the Miami name have been brought up of
Bradley Chubb and Jalen Phillips. I when you look at
some of these teams that will be drafting in all
likelihood in the top ten. You know, can you trade
a middleish round pick for an edge rusher. You obviously
are not going to find whatever Max Crosby and Miles
Garrett and those types of guys, but can you inject
a little bit of life into that room? And I
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think it's really necessary. I mean I was adamant all
week long that this was a foam with the mouth
game for the Colts defensive line, and the Colts internally
thought it was times a million. They could not believe
what the Chargers offensive line looked like. And yet you
don't sack Herbert until what thirty seventh past attempt of
the game. And like, I know, JJ Watt and I
(20:40):
and Eagle or no Eagle, I should say, made a
iron eagle. I'm trying to get no Eagles doing the
Notre Dame game on Saturday night. A great job with
Todd blackledch.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
But they made it.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
You know, Okay, Herbert doesn't get sack. You know, he
does a great job of, you know, knocking guys off
of him. I mean, the Chargers were bottom eight this
year in sacks allowed. I mean, Herbert and sacked seventeen
times this season. It's not like he's invincible from getting sacked,
and right now, with Buckner commanding so much double team action,
it's amazing to me that the Colts can't win one
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on one more in other places. So that is an
area that I would look at two weeks from tomorrow,
that's the trade deadline, and I view edg Rusher as
more of the area to look at than Corner.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
How worried are you when you bring it right in
the middle of the season, though, that he's able to
kind of integrate into what you're doing and pick you
up right away, because we've seen some midseason trades end
up working out fine, but sometimes it just takes a
while for everything to kind of come together and you
don't always get the jolt to the extent that you
were looking for.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Yeah, I mean, it's probably not going to be seamless seamless,
but I do think ed Rusher can be a position
where Hey, pin your ears back and it's third and
eight and go make a play and you don't have to,
you know, incorporate them into seventeen different communication aspects of
hey know this term and know that term, and yeah,
sure there's some stunts and some other things that they're
probably gonna need to learn. But pass rush, I think
is one of the positions out there where it's, hey,
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you know what to do. Go get that quarterback and
try to beat that ofphense tackle off the edge.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I don't think bring this up because I know so
many people have brought it up to me, whether it's
online or an email, and we've had callers and texters
talk about it. Is a guy like Trey Hendrickson in
play because doesn't seem like he's a long term answer
for the Bengals down there, the way things went in
the offseason, they admitted him long term. What do you do?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
I assume the Bengals are still trying to win, right,
you'd think so? I mean then they trade for Flaco
for a reason, didn't they? I mean they won the
other night, So yeah, I would assume, given Zach Taylor
on the hot seat, that they would still be trying
to win. So yeah, I don't view Hendrickson as realistic.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
And that's my point, like, what do you think the
level of player is that you can attain at this point?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yeah? Again, middle of shround, pick, I think you need
to be looking at you know, I brought up the
Miami Dolphins earlier. I mean, these teams that are drafting
in the top ten of the world, that's what you
have to look at, you know, cast offs, teams that
are you know, likely going to be probably sellers at
the deadline. I don't think you're looking in the world
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of again Hendrickson's and Garrett's and Crosby's, but you know,
for some reason, like Matthew Judon's names popping in my head,
like those types of pass rushers, and maybe not the
top flight guys, but you know, some of the whatever
first or second pass rushers on you know, top ten
drafting teams. And if you can find an area where
hey it's a new GM or it's a new head coach,
or we might not be buried to the previous regimes
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defensive personnel, those would be some of the ones that
I would look at.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, and we can get some individual texts coming up
here a minute, but that's the big thing, like get
some pass rush. This team is going to be cooking
with gas, and so we start to think about what's
possible out there and what's realistic and all those kinds
of things. But folks like Mike, you know, I don't
necessarily disagree with him when he says, just pull the
wallet out, first round pick, get the man we need
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from Cincinnat. I guarantee the super Bowl right now. The
iron's hot. That the reason I asked you that question,
Kevin is kind of your answer there. Bengals haven't thrown
the white flag up yet, not after that performance the
other night, and so they they're probably gonna be holding
onto folks and they know they're getting Joe Burrow back
at some point.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
It takes two to tango, and you need to find
the teams that are selling selling, and I don't view
Cincinnati as selling right now. But again, two weeks total
the trade deadline. So what happens over the next two weeks.
Do more teams become sellers that maybe aren't necessarily sellers
right now?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Yeah, I mean you will have roster decisions, so like
mortgaging your first round draft pick while you're looking at
six and one and everything like that. You also have
to be realistic, like there are still holes on this roster,
even as good as we've played, that maybe we need
to instead of going fully in on like a Trey
Hendrickson or something like that, that might cost us multiple
picks in twenty twenty six and beyond, do we need
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to make the you know, have some reservations and kind
of keep those available for adding to the roster because
there's some guys that are going to be not on
this team next year. And even you still we'll have
the quarterback situation figured out. I know we all expect
like a Daniel Jones' contact extension down in the near
future maybe, but as of now, you don't have an
answer there just yet.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Well, and I just view like, okay, pass rusher in
corner that seems to be the debate right now from fans. Okay,
which if you are going to make a trade here
in the next couple of weeks, what position do you trade?
I think both are important, let me be clear, but
I think pass rush matters more to me. I looked
at Sunday as hey, if your pass rush can really
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step up against Justin Herbert, that can alleviate some of
the stress that you're going to put on a really
depleted secondary. And yet that's not how the game played
out at all. And again, that pass rush entering the
game was very, very healthy and hadn't lived up to it.
In my opinion this season so far, so I would
give the nod to trading for a pass rushing more
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than I would corner. I just think that's an area
where if you can disrupt timing with the front, then
all of a sudden, you're not asking your secondary to
hold up for five, six, seven seconds because I don't
care who you are. You can have a bunch of
whatever you know, Stefan Gilmore in their primes back there
and you're not gonna be able to hold up for
six seven seconds.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Here's one point Evan ol Maddy was saying. He just
texted and he said, I hear what you guys are
saying about d line, But in the first half, Herbert
was getting the ball out really quick. Any validity to
that that you have a quarterback that just is not
gonna let you get to him in the first half.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah, I hear the old the quarterbacks are giving the
ball out really quickly. I almost hear it every week
with the Colts. I think they should be getting more
disruption from a defensive line that has a slew of first, second,
third round picks, major money invested in it. I mean
the Chargers literally started what their fifth and sixth offensive tackle.
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Did you see how many times the Chargers subbed offensive
lineman in during the game. I don't know if I've
ever seen, like every other place, seemingly a new Chargers
offensive lineman going in the game. Oh, this guy hobbles
off all the way. Now now he's back in two
plays later and they got dudess run on the field.
I'm like, that dude should not be playing. And next
thing you know, there he is out there trying to
pass block. So I just hear a lot of excuses
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for the defensive line.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Right now, here's the one thing I'll point out. We
talk about getting better on defense, and I think if
you're going to try to make a run for it
this year and you're six and one, why not you
do need to add something there. But having said that,
I know it hasn't been the strongest schedule. I give
that caveat. But plus ninety two. To put that into perspective,
the Lions tonight are also would be playing their seventh
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game of the year. They need to score forty four
points if they would want to make up that difference
to be the number one team in point differential, Kevin,
they have to outscore their opponent by forty four tonight
to do that. That's how far ahead the Colts are
right now.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, I mean they're the most dominant team in the
NFL bar none. And you know, again, I let off
the show with this, and I'll kind of go back there.
I think, what if you're a Colts fan, I think
what you're most encouraged by yesterday? Yes, your offense was surgical,
but you met the moment. The Colts circled yesterday's game
on the schedule, they circled it. That game meant more
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to the Colt I think it met more to the
Colts in the Chargers, frankly, And I'm fine with that.
I'm fine with whatever. Shane Stiken spent nine years there,
so naturally he's gonna have a little chip on his shoulder.
I'm fine with Hey, look at the schedule so far.
We're not going to totally ignore it. We realize that
you know, Harball Herbert and you know a team that's
made the playoffs couple times in the last few years.
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Those haven't been the weekly opponents. So how are we
going to react to a little bit of a higher
state game, a little bit more of a measuring stick game.
I think when those moments have arisen for this franchise lately,
albeit mostly at the end of the season, they haven't
met the moment. And yesterday, like watch Quentin Nelson's reaction
at the final gun yesterday, that man's hopping around like
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they just hit a game winning field goal to win
the division. That's you don't see guys react to fourteen
point wins in the middle of October like that very often.
And yet I think, like watch that postgame locker room
celebration yesterday, these guys, I think treated this game in
a different light. That's fine, meet that moment and they,
I mean they one thousand percent did you say from
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the start? They set the tone early on. Sure, you
want more out of your defense, but when your offense
is able to build that lead, net crossing Grover Stewart
make those plays which not enough is probably being talked
about by both those plays. I mean, I know James
mentioned it when he just when we just had him on,
but without those plays, I mean, it could be a
totally different game. The Chargers almost going toe to toe
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with you scoring wise, those were huge, huge plays in
the game.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
It's fan Morning show, give us a call. In a
few minutes, we'll do the pulse of cultinations, see what's
going on and how you feel about your team right
now at six and one nine ten seventy. Not only
the number to call, that's the fan text line as well.
Two three, nine, ten seventy. We'll get to some of
those in the meantime. For a couple of minutes, I
want to talk some college football. Fernando Mendoza, according to
his coach Kurt Signetti, had his best game of the year,
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fundamentally decisions, running the offense the way he wants it run.
He was talking about that in the post game. Twenty
four of twenty eight for three hundred and thirty two
yards and four touchdowns. And I can't say enough about
guys like Omar Cooper and Elijah Surat, and they're running
the ball with such balance all over the place. Like
you want to talk about a team. I know, Michigan
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State's not the greatest team. They were three and three
coming in, but Inana just looks like they look for real. Kevin,
It's fun to watch them look for real. Doesn't feel
like any kind of facade at all. They're the number
two team in the country.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Yeah, big day for Omar Cooper as well. Just love
the way that he plays. There's some baby Deebo Samuel
in his game. I thought a huge play kind of
early in the first half. They went for the fourth
and two and then I want to say, the next
play after that, maybe black ripsat that huge touchdown run there.
And that was still kind of a back and forth
first half to a degree there. Obviously you had a
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little bit of the weather delay at halftime. But it
is funny like watching that game, seeing the final score
and it's like we have to retrain our brains with
Indiana football, Like it was kind of a sluggish first half.
You know, you don't cover, but then it's but then
it's like, wait, wait a minute, Indiana football just won
a conference game by twenty five points, Like what usually
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you're celebrating any big ten win. Let alone won by
twenty five points in like whatever that weather was there
after mainly after halftime there. So yes, beyond deserving that
number two ranking, they are a huge face. I will
surprise the UCLA line was as big as it is.
Twenty four and a half coming up, big noon kickoff,
so you'll get the Fox crew there in Bloomington. They'll
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get UCLA at the nine am local time with the
noon kickoff in Bloomington coming up on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
It's gonna be fun to watch. But I keep thinking
of that game, and I watched. I went back and
watched both plays a couple of times yesterday, the forty
eight yard touchdown pass that he threw to Omar Cooper
Junior right in stride. And then you want to talk
about drop one in the bucket to Elijah Suratt there
at the end, not at the end, but but one
of his last touchdowns there I was a twenty seven yarder.
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He's throwing with confidence, he's throwing on time, He's hitting
guys in stride while they're moving forward, like everything feels good.
When you want.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Dots, right, is that what the young kids say dots?
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I don't know. We'll ask Mark.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Yes, sure, not a lot.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Of dots from Caleb Williams yesterday.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
But yeah, didn't need to Jeandre Swift one and all
over the place.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Sure, Daniel Jones a lot of dots, and Bernana Mendoza
a lot of dots right now? Is he still the
Heisman favorite?
Speaker 2 (32:32):
He's one of them? How about the kid from Vanderbilt
all of a sudden.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Pavia, that's where game day is coming up?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Right I could you know he's.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Got some manzeltah he does, hopefully mostly on the field.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Their number ten. Can you imagine a world if I'd
have told you fifteen years from oh yeah, twenty twenty five,
Indiana is gonna be ranting number two and Vanderbilt is
going to be ten.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Mendoza is the second favorite for the Heisman right now?
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Who's number one?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
The Bama kid up there?
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Simpson number one?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yep, where's Jeremiah Top five? Ish, top seven ish eighth eight?
Speaker 4 (33:04):
That's all after plus two thousand if you want to.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Getting so disrespected, like I feel that way about Jonathan
Taylor in the NFL right now and Derek Henry in
years past. I remember like b John Robinson is like
way low in the Heisman Awards list whenever his.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Year was CJ. Car tenth.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Let That to me is laughable that Jeremiah Love is
only two spots above CJ.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Car.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Jeremy Love is easily one of the best players in
college football. Jeremiah Love plus two thousand, CJ. Car plus
five thousand. You want to throw a little money there,
head of the Pacers.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I think Love is incredible, but Notre Dame is not
gonna have enough marquee moments to final five games this
season for him to if he's eighth right.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Now or Monday morning, Notre Dame cavin right there.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Well, no, I'm just being a realist. What their schedule
looks like the rest of the way.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
They're getting better as they go, better as they get very.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Very happy with where Notre Dame is at. But look
at their schedule the rest of the way.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I love the fact that they still have schedule. They
don't have that. I mean, they could sit there. Can
you imagine Notre Dame could pick and choose and they'll
just do like maybe two three tough games and then
just roll everybody else for the rest of the year.
They could do that.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
I was a little I was like, I'm so glad
they have a schedule. And you said that. I was like, well, no,
are they just going to stop playing?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
No? No, they had they They continued here and wait
they and say we're a playoff team. And in every
other place you know, teams are trying to Now we
see it in the early part of the season. Not
every team wants to play really tough competition. Notre Dame
keep scheduling. They've been scheduling. I like it, just do
their thing.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
And they overcame you visiting the USC campus. I was
not somehow that.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Well, but I waited until the football team was actually gone.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yeah, jeffs sending me pictures of Heisman trophies at USC.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Mark over they got a little replica of Reggie Bush's
Heisman trophy in their little Hall of Champions, And I'm
thinking that probably wasn't there five years ago.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Did you bury like a Notre Dame Hatton on the
campus somewhere for Kevin?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
No? I should have Kevin, I, I should have should have
gone like a little rogue there on.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Sixth night as he's petting the Heisman trophy like it's
a young puppy.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I didn't touch.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
I was afraid to be considering Heisman trophies at USA
might get taken away, so it might be like see
it while it's there, but then it comes back.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
See that's how that works, all right. Coming up in
a moment, we'll talk more with you about the Colts.
Your feedback at two three nine ten seventy, both on
the text line and on the phone as we continue
a victory Monday here at ninety three to five and
one on seven five the fans well with Kevin Bowen
and the recently return from more time off Mark Dyton.
We appreciate you being here this morning.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Thanks for having me. I'm glad the key carts still work.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Still works. We got James Boyd en route back to
Indianapolis from Los Angeles as we speak. We spoke to
him from the airport about an hour ago. It seems
like it's it's pretty much consensus everybody watching this game
who covers it, and even the fans love the offense
right now, happy with the defense doing enough to win.
But if they're going to be true contenders this year, Kevin,
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they're going to have to find a consistent pass rutch,
not just bothering guys occasionally in the second half. But
you got to start getting to the quarterback finish changing
because it changes the way the quarterback operates moving forward.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Finishing yep. Justin Herbert's played what I guess eighty some
games in his career, and yesterday was a career high
for him passing yardage. So I get some of that
little window dressing there to end the game. But still
you know those Nick crosscover student interceptions, great plays, huge
plays in the game, but you know, naturally getting off
the field, that's been a struggle right now, So Mitch
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it all morning long. I think the trade deadline calls
for a pass rusher, and that's what I think is
necessary for this team. And we did see a couple of injuries.
Samson Evacom and Quitty Pay on the d line both
get hurt in the game yesterday, so you know, I
would argue performance and potentially now healthy bodies available, you
need some attention there not really much on the practice squad,
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one guy Durell and Jommy who really hasn't played in
the NFL. So I think it's needed because you know,
you look at some of these quarterbacks in the wild
card picture right now, Herbert Alan Mahomes. I mean, these
are some of the teams you could be seen, uh
you know, in your own building potentially in around one
of the playoffs, depending on how the number one seed
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will go and how the bye will go.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
So it's needed, all right, you're ready to do some
goats of the week. I know James is not here
to participate. We are the good, the bad, the ugly.
It's it's time, Mark, who is the goat? I'd go
with you all that I was the greatest of all time.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
Shorty, here's Michael at the filine.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I shot on em.
Speaker 8 (37:29):
Got or goat? This guy sucks of the week.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
You want to start good or bad? Here? Mark? You
tell me, then start right well, sometimes you want to
finish on a high. Sometimes go the other way. All right,
we'll start with the good. We'll let you go first
into just returning.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Sure, all right, guys, yeah, I know I returned from
a week off. But what what year is it again?
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Twenty twenty five?
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Twenty twenty five, and the top two teams in the AFC.
In the AFC are the Indianapolis Colts and New England Patriots.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
The rivalry is back on.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
We have a renewed rival down our hands here it is,
but we have Brady and Manning partduce Jones versus Jones,
I'm sorry, Jones versus Drake May. That is what we're
looking at right now, Patriots and Colts atop the AFC.
I wouldn't have predicted that heading into the season. I
don't know who would have. But could you imagine the
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AFC Championship Colts versus Patriots and Lucas Oil Stadium Chris Ballad.
Chris Ballad would be giddy, the fan base would be giddy.
It would be nice to see that rivalry mean something again,
as it kind of lost its luster as the Colts
went through the quarterback abyss. So I like seeing the
Patriots atop the AFC. I like seeing the Cult to
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top the AFC. Those games having some meaning in would be.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Very good for the sport of You might be the
only one in the city likes to see the Patriots
the top the AFC.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
I would like to see the rivalry renewed.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
The rivalry is back. Damn right. That's well done.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Mark dyk k May very good, Yeah, very good.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Kevin Bowen, who you like so much?
Speaker 3 (39:20):
I gotta go back to what was it? Friday night?
And James Boyd said this quite often. One thing he
hates about baseball is he can't run his best player
necessarily out there every day.
Speaker 8 (39:31):
Now.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
He means it more from a pitching standpoint of course,
than a hitting standpoint. Well, for one night, sho Heeotani
told James Boyd, hold my jug of beer. Otani six
and a third shutout innings, strikes out ten, he hits
not one, not two, but three home runs in what
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is undeniably considering the stage as well, one of the
greatest individual games bar nun in the history of America's pastime.
There one dude dominating a baseball game. You don't get it,
and Joey o Tani did that on Friday Night. Absolutely
goat performance from three.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
He's almost he's closing it on Ady Mitchell, No I
said this. I didn't watch all of the game once
I was clued into it by my phone. I was
checking a little bit of out on the phone because
was that with my son. But I went back and
watched some of it, at least the extended highlights for
Major League Baseball. I don't know in my lifetime if
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there's ever been a more complete baseball game out of anybody.
I've been watching baseball forever in my life for a
long long time. To do one thing, I mean, we'd
be talking about a great performance just on the mound
Kevin for ten strikeouts in that setting. To send you
to a World Series game, but then to come back
with not just three home runs but one of them
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is a tent measure home run. I mean that thing
might still be going goat incredible. I don't know what
else you say other than that.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
It's very rare that in a sport like baseball you
see that kind of single handed performance from one player
just dominate to a victory everybody, and he makes it
look so easy he does. It was breathaking. It was
absolutely incredible.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
It was insane. So yeah, that was my goats as well.
And I don't mind doubling up and talking about Shoe
Haltani because I've never seen anything like that. I've never
seen anything like that. All right, bad, go to the week.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
Okay. I wasn't a big fan of last night's Sunday
Night game. I thought it was a bit of a
dud quite frankly between the Falcons and the forty nine ers.
But we're really stuck in my craw was then seeing
the promo for next week's Sunday Night game, and I'm
a A I'm at a crossroads, folks, because it is
the Packers against the Steelers in Pittsburgh. So I have
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the hated Green Bay Packers, yes they do, and then
going up against Aaron Rodgers, Now, I know that's sexy
from a TV standpoint, Aaron Rodgers facing his former team.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Marks pray for a meteor.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
I don't you're knocking, You're not far off. I don't
know what I want to happen. I certainly don't want
either team to win necessarily. Maybe the Steelers, but Aaron
Rodgers maybe throws for like eighty yards and four interceptions
or something. Maybe it's a ground game kind of victory.
I'm disgusted by next week's Sunday night game. I don't
know where I'm going, but yeah, media or might not
be too far off.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Kevin.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Yeah, I'm gonna defend my young childhood friend. That would
be the one, the only Kyle Klein here, He texts me.
I rate about Michigan State kicking a field goal down
twenty eight points in the final minute in Bloomington on Saturday,
and that field goal went in and that field goal
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covered the spread changed Michigan State, Mark Dyton, can you
agree on me with us? No final two minute field
goals to decide to spread in a game that is
greater than a ten point margin. Are good with that?
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (42:58):
I'd agree both because Kurtzygnetti kicked a field goal on
the other side like a minute earlier to then get
you over the spread. No field goals allowed in the
final two minutes of games where the spread is on
the line. Obviously, I know it's a ridiculous ask by me.
This will never happen, But for our gamblers out there,
this is necessary, particularly in the college game when everything
comes down to the little walk on kicker, to try
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and save face to where you can tell your buddies, hey,
at least I covered the spread. We need this, we
already fall on, like the safety, like the on purpose
safety to like run the clock that is blaspheming as well,
like what Mendoza did against Iowa. Yes, that needs to
be obliterated as well.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
All right, in that spirit, I'm gonna go. Did you
guys see the end of the half of Michael PENNOCKX
last night? Falcons forty minutes vaguely? All right?
Speaker 4 (43:45):
And that game was not most entertaining.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
No, but it was a close game. So every point's
gonna count, right, and Atlanta's is at the twenty two
yard line of San Francisco into the first half. They're
threatening to cut into a ten to three lead before
the break, so they could even if the field goal. Well, now,
it's just a one, you know, one touchdown game to
take the lead. But with seventeen seconds to go on
the clock, Michael Pennix Junior, he's backed pass, he's under pressure.
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He throws the ball out of bounds, but he was
still well inside the tackle box. That triggered an intentional
grounding penalty, and because the ball hit the ground of
the ten second mark, they had the runoff. And you
get no points on the road in a close game
because you're just not managing the clock. I say this
again and again, and I say it on behalf of
my buddy Jim at Sunrise. It drives him crazy. Some
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of the clock management you see at the highest level
in the NFL. It seems like there's one or two
games every week where we scratch our head and go,
what are they doing, Kevin? At the highest level, don't
they have one person on the sideline who's just managing
clock and saying, Okay, if this is what we got
to do on this play, be careful of an intentional
ground and be careful you don't run out the clock.
Take care of this stuff. Yeah, why does this happen
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over and over? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:53):
I don't know. It's a great, great question. Yes, there
are people hired specifically for that.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Yeah, I just I can't imagine at that level. But
there's clock management the way that it is, so I
guess collectively, but in the form of Michael Pennox last night,
that's Mike Got of the Week, bad got of the week?
All right, coming up just a moment, we'll get more
of your feedback. Two three, nine, ten seventy. It's a
victory Monday all over the place for all kinds of teams.
We'll talk about it as we continue on a Monday morning.
I hope you're having a terrific start to the day.
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