November 3, 2025 • 42 mins
00:00 – 14:20 – Colts tun the ball over six times in a reality check loss to the Steelers, Myles Turner returns tonight against the Pacers, the turning point in the Colts-Steelers game came at the hands of TJ Watt, was this just a clunker game or something more for the Colts?, Game 7 of the World Series
14:21 – 34:30 - James Boyd joins the show from Pittsburgh to recap the Colts’ loss to the Steelers, Daniel Jones and the Colts turn the ball over six times, should the Colts make a trade before tomorrow’s deadline, more issues from the Colts yesterday, Jonathan Taylor’s lack of usage and Pittsburgh controlling the running game, Steelers’ special teams coach was chomping on a wad of gum all game long, trip to Berlin at the end of the week, Bears win a thriller against the Bengals
34:31 – 42:35 – GOATs of the Week
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to the best of the Fan Morning Show
on ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
He sees the Fan Morning Show with KB jab and Jeff.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Here's a quarterback sneak by Daniel Jones. He's in touchdown
and the Steelers have gone three and out on both
of their drives.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
To begin the game.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
As Porless Weightman punts and he may have been run
into as Josh Dallas buffs the ball. It's picked up
by the Steelers packing to throw on play action as
Jones and the ball may have come out.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
And it is a strip sack.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
And a recovery by t J. Watts first takeaway in
the last three plus games and TJ utt the strip
sack Master, gets a sack and a fumble recovery. Daniel
Jones takes to the air and he throws it right
to a Steeler that's Peyton Wilson. He's at the twenty
and then tripped up and it's the third giveaway today
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already in this first half by the Pups. Rogers backs
to throw plants zips it up field the end it
caught the color line for a touch. Get on, Pet Fryer, Dude,
Jones RPO throws it up and.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
It pecked off.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
It's bettered up the air and accepted by the Steelers
and they sweep it till warn and he's in touchdown.
Pittsburgh has the biggest advantage so far. Jones onto the gun.
Paul m near Hash backs to pass again and then
it's tipped the line of scrimmage again incomplete. No, it's
recovered by Petsburg Dath and it rows. Jones are in
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the middle flies it. He picked off Joey Porter Junior.
I tried to go to Josh downs but was intercepted
by Porter. That's giveaway number six today for the Indianapolis Courts.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Hard to win when you turn it over like we did.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
To turn over as many times as we did today,
we have tough time winning.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So obviously that's on that's on me.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
I gotta protect the ball better and make sure we're
giving ourselves a chance.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Get out. The last thing we hear there is the
appreciative Indianapolis loving Miles Turner showing so much love to
the crowd and back and of course six turnovers for
the Indianapolis Colts. We had a classic World Series game
over the weekend Indiana. A lot of people are talking
(02:24):
about them being the number one team in the nation
right now. All kinds of sports to talk about today,
and Kevin Bowen, good morning. Our third member of the
show is in an airport somewhere in Pittsburgh getting ready
to come home after watching that game yesterday. Mark Dyton
Here as always, Kevin Bowen, Where do you want to start?
For six turnovers? Classic World Series game Indiana Football? Miles
(02:46):
Turner returning. I mean, so much stuff going on this morning?
Where's your brain locked? Right now? I'm watching, I know
where it's at, but where you get? Where do you
want to start? I mean Saturday?
Speaker 5 (02:56):
And I was a I can't believe there are people
in this world that don't like sports moment, so I
would love love to start there. But this is local radio,
so I guess we will stick with the task. Can
I think I said to you last Monday, I feel
like these shows have become redundant, and that's a positive
to the colts. You know, we had done the same
Monday show over and over again. We haven't done this
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one though all year long, and we haven't really talked
about a loss. Of course more than twice here this season.
So yeah, really shocking performance, particularly I thought from the
Colts offensive line. I think that'll be the root of
so much of what we talk about. And boy, I'm curious, Mark,
does that cut make the tribute video tonight? Do we
hear that in twelve hours from now?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I think we will.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I think you'll hear it.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
You will hear that specific cut.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
I think you'll hear it, And then I think the
live crowd will instead of cheers, will be booze.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Would the NBA look at the game operations as inciting
negative behavior if they did that.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
No, because the crowd's gonna react.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
How the crowd's going Yeah, seem like and again, twelve
hours from now, Bucks, I assume twelve hours from now,
the tribute video might very well be played about seven
oh three, seven oh four. I do think the miles
turn to chatter as of late has led to the
crowded reaction being okay, it might have been majority of
booze saved until the game starts, right, and I now
(04:17):
I think it's going to be sprinkled, maybe even heavily
sprinkled into that tribute video.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
He's been talking an awful lot and it never looks
positively on his time in Indiana, as he's now a
member of the Milwaukee Bucks talking about Miles Turner and
the Bucks in town tonight, and so we got a
lot to talk about there. And as I said on Friday,
I think you're right, Kevin. I think it's starting to
change a little bit more negative, just in the hole,
because a week ago we talked about this and I said,
(04:43):
I think you'll get a nice ovation when he's announced,
and then you boo him every time he touches the
ball for a while, right, But I think you're right.
I think there's going to be a smattering, if not
more so, an avalanche of booze at the very beginning
of the game, just because of how much talking he's
done and how much has come out over the last week,
week and a half. Not terrible, terrible stuff, but just
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stuff like, dude, why are you still talking? Why can't
you just say, hey, I had a really good time
in Indiana for better than a decade. It was time
for me to do something different. Why can't you just
stop there.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
It's been a while since we have this Monday anger,
has it not?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It has? And we've got angst everywhere. Kevin got angst
unless you're an Indiana football fan and you're just gliding
on a magic carpet right now, Man, did they look good?
And we'll talk about all this before it gets going,
before the show is done today, and we're going to
take a lot of feedback today. I think today is
a perfect day to hear from you on the phones
at two three nine ten seventy on the fan text
(05:42):
line at two three nine ten seventy. I want to
get it off your chest. There's a lot of already
before we even got going. There are some folks that
are a little upset with the cults right now. And
the big question nationally you've seen it, Kevin, and maybe
we need to ask it here too. Did the clock
strike midnight and the Colts return to who they truly are?
Or was that an anomaly one game in what has
been a nine game season so far in which it
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has been overwhelmingly positive for the most part, and that's
just one of those games that happens in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Yeah, I think you've earned then for the doubt to
put it simply, so I don't look at it and say,
I guess to use the analogy there the clock striking midnight.
I mean, you could just boil it down to six turnovers.
I could just repeat that for again, how many six turnovers?
I believe the last time they had done that. And
(06:33):
I actually remember this game quite well, Peyton Manning tossed
not one, not two, not three, not four, not five,
but six interceptions in a Sunday night game against the Chargers.
They si almost won the game out of videtary. Mister
Chip shot to win that game. I believe that was
after maybe the fifth I think he hadn't thrown his
six just yet. That's last time. That was two thousand
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and seven in the years what twenty twenty five, so
quite a long time ago. So yeah, you could boil
so much of it down to that. You know, I
will say, I guess a couple items. One, if you'd
have told me at the start of the day, DK
Metcalf's gonna have two catches for six yards. Jalen Warren's
gonna have under two yards per carry. The Cults are
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going to go and convert five for five on fourth down.
They're gonna fake a punt, right, they outgain Pittsburgh by
what one hundred and forty some yards? I'd be like
cults rolled. It's the same old Monday show we've done
time and time again. So why again it all boils
down to the offensive line. Now, there is a little
bit of a thought that you know, again, one more
(07:33):
game before the bye week, and you know, more of
these types of games I think do show up on
the schedule the rest of the way, a little bit
more of a quality opponent, rode atmospheres, et cetera, et cetera.
If you can have an effective which is easier so
than done, but if you can have an effective four
or five man rush, put a little bit more on
the plate of Daniel Jones, what happens?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, And I thought everybody's going to talk about Daniel
Jones this morning. And he made some costly turnovers obviously,
and didn't play his best game by a long shot.
But I thought the only word to describe the offensive
line yesterday was awful. They couldn't run the ball, they
couldn't protect Daniel Jones. We talked about TJ. Watt being
a game wrecker, not only him, but it seemed like
(08:16):
there were three or four guys on that front seven
that were game wreckers for Pittsburgh yesterday. Like there was
a lot going on there, and it wasn't all just
on Daniel Jones. Kevin, I thought the Watt strip sack
changed the game. Yeah, and that was fair. That was
first quarter, right, late first quarter, early second?
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Is it early second already now if I'm not mistaken,
But that to me, Jeff was just I'm such a
believer in game flow. And at that point you had
the thirteen play touchdown drive. Yeah, Pittsburgh had done nothing,
and they had already gotten the short field off of
the Josh Allen smuff punt, and they still hadn't converted that.
They'd had ten plays to that point without a single
first down. That is a first and ten for the
Colts in scoring range. They are on the way to
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go up ten nothing, fourteen nothing. And if you there
are going to be some boots tonight inside a game
bridge Field House. If the Colts would have gone up
ten or fourteen nothing, those yellow towels would have been
used as megaphones to be booing Mike Tomlin and company.
And that Watt play just I think single handedly changed
the game. And the avalanche started from there. And I
just thought Daniel Jones never looked settled after that he
(09:20):
threw the pick on the very next drive, easily his
worst interception of the year, and then those ends in particular,
high Smith and Watt just continued to tee off the
rest of the game. So that play, which I've thought
about a lot. You know, it's a first down play.
You know, are you a little greedy there trying to
take a shot? You know, I know JJ Watt did
a nice job diagraming it afterwards. You when Tyler Warren
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was wide open the flat look like Daniel Jones was
looking for Alec Pierce, which when Alec Pierce starts the
game like he did, I understand wanting to hang in
the pocket and maybe look for Pierce down the field.
But again, I'm not overly concerned about this one. But
you know, I can hear from people that say, hey, look,
when the Rams have showed up, when the Chargers have
showed up, when the Steelers have showed up, on the
(10:03):
Broncos have showed up, it's been about a coin flip team.
And those are the types of teams you will see
in January. Now, again, you got to position yourself for January,
and that means largely taking care of business when you
play bottom feeders and don't do what the Packers did yesterday,
or don't do what the Lions did yesterday, and you know,
take care of business when those teams pop up on
(10:23):
the schedule. So the Colts have definitely done that. And weirdly,
like I mean, Jacksonville is only one game back in
the lost column. For those that watch at four o'clock game,
that was a huge two point conversion that the Jags
batted down to win that game. When the Colts and Jags,
if you have to face off this season.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
There's a lot of crazy things happening in that Jacksonville game.
We'll get to all of that, but before we move
on completely, I just want to make sure we talk
about this for a moment. A lot of Colts talk
coming up, and I see we're already getting an avalanche
of messages on the fan text line two, three, nine, ten, seventy.
Keep that coming. We'll get to that coming up in
a little while here. But Kevin, I've been watching sports
professionally for a long, long time. Long time. I have
(11:01):
covered Major League Baseball at MLB Network Radio. I've covered
the NFL since day one, NBA same thing. I'm a
huge Hockey Fan covered the NHL for a while. One
of the top five best games of any sport I've
ever seen in my life. And maybe it's recentcy biased,
but I'm going with it right now. How much time
(11:21):
did you get to spend watching Game seven of the
World Series on Saturday night between the Dodgers and Blue Chase.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Yeah, I watched everything. Yep epic, just epic. Again. Why
you love sports? There's no other way to describe it.
The unpredictability, the heroic efforts Yamamoto. I saw someone's tweet.
I think he's reporting pitchers and catchers are reporting today
and he's the one leading it, you know, for next year.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
It just he's starting a Fall League game today.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Probably literally, Yeah, you know the Japan national team of
a game today?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Is he pitches them?
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Just epic and Rojas doing what he I just yeah,
Like it was one of those where I was like,
I need to sleep, but I don't want it to end. Yeah,
And that's when you know sports is pretty good.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
There were so many moments in that game, too, whether
it was the ball getting lodged under the cushion or
the Will Smith's foot just briefly losing place with home
plate and all that, and just like stuff like that
where it's like there are just moments in this game
they're just like, can we keep this going?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
How about in the night that wild catch where the
outfisers almost running.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Into each other to each other, and he k Hernandez
saying after the game that he was like on the
ground being like he thought the game was over. He
had to hear, you know, from his teammate there that
the ball was caught. He was like, no, no, no, I
thought it was over at that point. So yeah, just
a absolutely, absolutely epic Game seven of the World Series.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Man, that was just so much fun to watch. It
was one of those things. And Mark, I know you
watch baseball one hundred and sixty two games for the
Cubs every year, but what I love about playoff baseball
and especially Game seven, right that goes without saying. You
can feel the tension rise with every pitch in every inning.
Everything means so much. And who doesn't want a guy
on their team? And I thought this for a couple
(13:08):
of years now, and as somebody who I'm neither four
against the Dodgers, I just want to watch team great
players play. Doesn't everybody on any sport. Whant a guy
like Max Montsky on your team, Kevin who just somehow
finds a way to come through in the clutch every
time his team needs him.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
It's almost a forgotten play with you know how everything
unfolded once he got to the ninth and on that So, yeah,
it was. It was tremendous. Thank you to falling back.
My kids, I'm not very happy about it right now
in relation to them, but I was very happy to
get the extra hour on Saturday night.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Last night, getting them to bed was a nightmare, right and.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Last thing before we break and get to the to
the first checkdown. The defense in that game was insanely good.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
K k Hernandez almost falling over but throwing out the
guy at home was unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Some of those plays at first place, the first base
though by Vlad unbelievable, just incredible stuff.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
So anyway, the greatest game seven of witnessed in these.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
In my life. I know which one you're referring too.
I'm by it a rain delay, little Rangeling action, yep,
all right, coming up in a moment to check down
a lot of cult stuff today, A little bit of
Pacers and Miles Turner Pacers with that. They're on a
winning they're trying for a winning streak tonight. Kevin, I'm
here for it. We'll talk about it all over the
next two and a half hours or so. Right here
on ninety three five and one, o seven to five,
(14:21):
Daniel Jones, quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts. Yeah, turnovers will
do that to you. Six turnovers, five turnovers technically, and
a muffed punt lead to a twenty seven to twenty
Pittsburgh Steelers victory. That was Daniel Jones after the game.
You actually, Kevin Boone, we need to have Scotty do
some research. I wonder how often a team that's turned
the ball over six times in an NFL game has
ever won.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
I believe the Colts wore two and twenty three as
a franchise. Okay, with six turnovers in a game, and
I went back to two thousand league wide, five ninety
two and one, five ninety two and one.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
So your chances are a about six percent, is what
you're saying right in that neighborhood.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Not very good, No, not very very good.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Let's check in with the third member of our broadcast team.
He is in Pittsburgh getting ready to come back from
watching that game yesterday in person, James Boyd. First of all,
how are your eyes after watching that thing? They all
intact everything. Okay, my eyes are good.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
But I gotta say I told y'all would talk at
seven thirty. It is seven thirty five. I'll run a
tight shit, man, got if you on time.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
You're here now. So tell us what your big takeaway
for the Colts moving forward was yesterday?
Speaker 6 (15:32):
The story ear after the game was basically how people
are going to use this as fuel to say Daniel
Jones isn't real, the Colts aren't wheel and this team
isn't for real. And so I think that the way
they respond after this game will be key to how
the narrative of the season kind of goes because it's
so easy to pick on them now and have that
low hanging through because in my opinion, I looked at
it like, you know, this is a team that's better
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than that. But six turnovers, losing again to a team
with a winning record. They've only got two wins this
year against teams of winning records. That's something that's a
big problem.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
James.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Any similarities between the two losses for you Rams and
now Steelers.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
Yes, to know, I think you can say it's very
self inflicted, but I think you have to give more
credit to the Steelers when it comes to just the
mistakes that were made, Like, yeah, they were turnovers, and
a couple of them probably were on them. The Josh
Downs turnover, the first interception I'll leave from Daniel Jones,
but a couple other plays I just felt like, you know,
you have to get credit to that Steelers pass rus.
They really just whooped up on the coast offensive line.
(16:33):
That is something to keep an eye on because they
had been great all year. So yeah, Daniel Jones gets
the blame, he gets all the turnovers, but the offensive
line I think was a bigger, you know, overarching, you
know message from that game because Daniel Jones ran for
his life from most of the day and it resulted
in obviously one of his worst days and him looking
like the guy that got you know, banished from New York.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
And when you talk about that offensive line, I don't
think any of us saw that coming. Credit to Steelers
not letting Jonathan Taylor get loose. Obviously they got backed
into a corner and Pittsburgh could could pin their ears back.
But what was the sentiment of that offensive line and
Shane Stikeen in the locker room afterwards.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
I think a lot of it. They just felt like,
you know, this is a chance for us to respond.
Michael Piman Junior had a funny comment about how they,
you know, didn't want to go seventeen, you know anyway,
because I guess if you do that and you're the Patriots,
you're gonna lose in the big one when it matters
the most. But I'd have the hard to tell them like, yeah,
you already dropped one, so see undefeated seasons already off
the board. But they were just talking about how they
(17:34):
had to basically rally and make sure it doesn't spiral
us anything bigger. Now they think they have the resolve
to do that is just again the pundits, the bigger markets,
the people who don't pay in this team all year,
they're gonna look at this one game and say, okay,
well the Colts are frauds. So I think this is
kind of fuel to that fire to say, Okay, if
you aren't fraudulent, if you are for real, go out
there in Germany next week and beat the Falcons and
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obviously a huge one coming up a week twelve against
the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
James, you already saw a little trade dead activity here
this morning. We'll get to that in just a second.
But did yesterday do anything for you on your opinion
with the trade deadline for the Colts coming up four
o'clock on Tuesday.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
Not necessarily. I kind of felt like they should have,
you know, made a move or should make a move
before tomorrow's deadline. But at the same time, it wasn't
like it was invalidated or reinforced yesterday. I feel like,
if anything in defense actually wasn't the problem for the
first time this year, it was the offense. You gave
them a lot of short fields to work with, and
the defense tried to bail you out. They helped you
(18:32):
out on the Josh Downs muff punt, but then you
cannot keep seeing to do that. Look at those points
in that game, I believe the Steelers scored twenty four
to twenty tep of points off of turnovers, and I
just can't happen against a team that. Yeah, the Feelers
might not be that great on paper, but they found
waste one mate one second.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, Well, we'll give James Boyd just one second, theraseaes
I don't know if he's going through security or whatever.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Listening to the exit row instructions.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Right, that's probably what it is right there. But yeah,
the Colts try it. That's all of a sudden, no
go ahead, you were you were going to continue your
thought there we talk about Atlanta and what's coming up
next and how they what really happens next determines the
narrative for this Colts team. But did you get the
sense that they're just gonna say, hey, look, aberration, we
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got to do a lot better and we're going to
move on. What is that kind of what you got
from that locker room?
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (19:21):
I think a lot of it. They basically were saying,
it's kind of like an anomaly, you know, have a
six turnovers, which it is. I mean, thus the turnovers
by any team in a single game this season. I
believe it's tired of the franchise record and just a
weird day overall for them. However, again, I think the
offensive line has to really look in the mirror and say,
we can't be this bad. We can't be this for us,
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because you know, Brit Smith I thought, did not play
that what thought Bernard Ryman for a guy who gave
one hundred eight dollars tackle?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
All right, we're losing it out, James. What means you're
about to take off? We appreciate you checking in from
the airport in Pittsburgh because he was there to cover
for the athletic the twenty seven to twenty loss for
the Indianapolis Colts to the Pittsburgh Steelers yesterday.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Do you like when the flight attendants make jokes.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
On the Oh, it doesn't bother me. It tells me
that they're at least trying to be in a good
mood for everybody.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, first thing I do when I get on a plane.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Some of them are really good. Yeah, I'm not gonna
lie some of some of the jokes I like audibly
laugh at.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Have you heard the same joke twice? Though I travel
a lot, sometimes.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Travel enough for me to hear the same joke twice.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
But the one thing I do, though, when I first
get on the plane, I go out of my way
to make eye contact, smile and say, hey, hope you
guys having a great day today.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Oh, it's very nice.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I just find that your flight can be better if
you already get a little simpatico going with the flight attendant.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Pound wings, you know, if you're flying Southwest. The Dolphins
have traded Jalen Phillips to the Eagles for a third
round pick. We've talked a lot about Miami's situation. They
fire their GM after the loss on Thursday Night Football.
Their ends Bradley Chubb and Jalen Phillips were long rumored
to be candidates to be traded. He and again Jalen
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Phillips former first rounder. I believe I'm not mistaken. He
is a free agent coming up this offseason. So that's
a third round pick for you know, a rental back
half of the season and we'll see if they can
resign him. But puts a little bit of market value
I think out there, and I'll continue to reiterate what
(21:22):
I've said throughout with the trade deadline. Jeff to me,
I have viewed corner less than edge rusher, and I
think yesterday was a reminder in my opinion of my thoughts.
First off, credit to Jalen Jones back in the lineup,
played the most snaps of any Colts cornerback. I thought
he was a big part in helping limit DK Metcalf
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to just two catches. I mean DK Metcalf had two
catches for six yards. The biggest play DK Metcalf made
all day was catching the onside kick to ice the game.
So really good from Jalen Jones in his return. I
know he had the dumb penalty there at the end
of the first half, but I thought in terms of coverage,
he gave you something you expect Tavarius Ward back, you
know at some point here, probably after the bye week,
and so you know, to me, I kind of look
(22:06):
at trade deadline acquisitions almost at corner you could have
some in house. Whereas edge rush, I mean it's single
handy won the game for Pittsburgh yesterday. And obviously I'm
not saying you're finding wat and Highsmith out there in
the open market. But you know, j T Twoumloau got
an expanded role last week and then this week he
played eleven snaps.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
At um penalty too. Didn't at one point, Yeah, well
I thought a.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Lot two gave you a little bit of rush, but
still you just you just not get in again. I'm
not yesterday necessarily isn't the reflection of the Colts per se,
but it's more of a reminder of what ineffective rush
can do for any team, and I thought Pittsburgh had that,
and I think the Colts have not had enough of
that over their nine games this season. So be curious
(22:51):
how this move around the league begins. The Domino.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
All right, Colts Nation, let's get your feedback now, two
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TC pointing out that they never went in Pittsburgh. Just
try to move on and win Sunday in Berlin. You're
eight and two through ten games. I'll take that back
at the beginning of the season in August. I think
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it was such an anomaly. You go back and I
think you show the guys all the film and all
the things you did wrong and all the things you
got to correct. But I do think in a weird way,
so many turnovers you can say to yourself, man, that
was awful, Let's never let that happen again, and then
turn the page, don't you.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Yeah, I mean six turnovers obviously is a Fluke. I mean,
when you look at it now, you know, again a
team producing an effective four or five man rush like
the Rams did in Week four and like Pittsburgh did yesterday,
And honestly, I probably shouldn't even go immediately towards the rush.
I would say what they did to Jonathan Taylor. And
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I know this was a debate heavily yesterday during the
game from fans. I got a lot of questions about it.
Did you have any issue Jeff and the usage of
Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
It was such a weird game. The game script became
tough because at a certain point, especially when it became
seventeen to seven, they're just pinning their ears back and
they're coming at you. And I just thought that they
put the Colts in a very defense on offense and
put them kind of in a very defensive position, and
just you've seen that when when NFL defensive fronts that
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front seven starts feeling pretty good about things, and you've
got a Highsmith and you've got a TJ. Watt, it
feels like everything comes harder, doesn't it.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Yeah, I thought, I don't know, maybe I'm used to
twenty twenty five chain stikeend but he has fully embraced
his own mantra, which he has said this throw to score,
run to win. I didn't think it was as much
of a lack of Taylor usage as it was a
lack of a run game effectiveness.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Offensive line was struggling yesterday.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Right in both run and pass. I mean, you look
at the first half. Taylor had eight carries. There's been
many games this season where he's only had eight carries,
and if you look at it, I want to say,
his long rush in the first half was like six yard.
I mean, think about that, eight carries in your long
rush is six yards. Then in the third quarter, where
it's still you know, back and forth gain, that's you know,
at that point you're not in all throw mode. He
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had six carries in that quarter and his long rush
was nine. So I just I don't chalk yesterday up
to a, hey, you didn't give Taylor the ball enough.
Uh No, I look at it more of a your
offensive line got whipped. And they got whipped not only
in some of the individual breakdowns on the edge that
we saw from TJ. Watt and Alex Highsmith, but they
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also got whipped in terms of establishing the line of
scrimmage for Taylor, and that will be I think again,
I don't think it's you know, sound the alarms and
evacuate the building. But are there other teams out there
that can do that? And will they try to do that?
Of hey, try and take away Taylor's best.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
We can do.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
We have some individual rushers that can muddy the pocket
for Daniel Jones. And if you muddy the pocket of
Jones and takeaways, first or second read, what does he
look like? Because yesterday he looked pretty rough.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, a lot of folks chiming in saying, let's stop
overreacting to one game, still in first place. Pat was
one of the many who've sent that in. Anthony said
the offensive line was truly offensive. At least half of
the turnovers can be attributed to the offensive line being
pushed back like schoolgirls into Daniel Jones face. Shane did
not do them any favors by refusing to call a
screen pass, which is the number one recipe for stopping
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a blitzing defense. It just it did feel like at
a certain point from that second quarter on that that front,
as I've said a couple of times, that front seven
felt like they could just pin their ears back and
let's go.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
I'll be a broken record by the time ten Am
rolls around. The TJ. Watt stripsack. Change the game? It
absolutely changed the game. You were thirteen play touchdown drive
to start your defense. I thought was very good to
start that game. I mean, think about the muff pump
by Josh downs and how big Kenny Moore was and
keeping Pittsburgh out of the end zone there. I mean
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that was four downs. You didn't allow them to get
into the end zone. You were driving to go up
either ten nothing, maybe even fourteen nothing. You got a
first and ten And what makes that play on Braiden Smith?
And to me, there's a checklist, you know, could you
have chip with Jonathan Taylor there? Do you need to leave?
You know again, what on an island? Braden Smith? On
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an island with wat Could Daniel Jones have felt that
a little better? Should he have had better ball security
within the pocket? You know, CBS did a good job
of diagramming that that play. Afterwards it looked like he
was trying to take the shot to Pierce. Is that
one Wheyre? Hey, you got to realize Braiden Smith's a
single team right here? Yes, I'd love to take the
shot to Pierce, but I should probably look for that
checkdown to Tyler Warren a little bit quicker in my
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sort of progression there. I think those are all questions
you would have on that play. But yeah, I just
thought what changed it? And in general, Jeff I thought
what was extra frustrating about the Colts offenensive line effort yesterday?
I thought so many of the breakdowns and or Jones turnovers,
they didn't occur in third and longs. You know, sometimes
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when you play these teams, you get into third and thirteens,
third and fifteens, and they're foaming at the mouth to
get after you. I mean, you think about it, the
first and ten, what makes that play? Jones's interception there
on the next drive, I think it was like a
second and short. I want to say that the tip
ball that Jack Sawyer intercepted was a second and one.
You know it weren't. It wasn't these long down and
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distance situations. It was just winning just one, and you know,
I think that kind of adds to it.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I will say this, what was crazy about the whole
day yesterday is I thought that Daniel Jones made three
or four just insane throws a couple of times under pressure,
but there was one that he that he dropped into
Alec Pierce how about the first long game, the first.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Third and eleven of the game. Yeah, I mean that
was a big time right there to Pierce there, I
an eagle, you know, drops into a bucket. I thought
was a really good way to, uh to describe it.
So yeah, it just just so much of it is
a root in the offensive line play, which there hasn't
been a Monday. I've said that really all year long.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
You guys ever chewed gum as much as Danny Smith has, Oh.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
My gosh, that guy was a machine with that yesterday.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
And I will say they were really getting into that.
But then every time they showed him at the end
of the game, I was like, damn, it's like he's
got a chipmunk in that cheek of his.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
It was reminded me of the ace Ventura scene where
he's eating a bunch of gum and it's just taking
up the entire size.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
That's what it was like. Cower is your jaw and
not completely sore. And JJ Watt was right, Bazooka can
lose the flavor pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Yeah, there's no gun that loses flavor quicker than the
double bubble.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
The blue and the pink wrapper is knocking on the
door comes in a huge bucket. I swear I chopped
that thing for thirty six seconds. Flavor is gone, and
then I feel like I'm ripping out my back molers
the rest of the time I got it in there.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah, big league or bust is what I say. Uh.
Samford Newcastle says they looked slow on grass. Ryan from
Pendleton says, uh, maybe he misunderstood h JB. But the
Colts need help on that d line. Quit He pays
a liability, he says, but it was earlier in the
game when Stike and bailed on the run never really
made an attempt to run the ball. We've addressed that,
but what about overall that defensive line. Still want to
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add somebody there before the next couple of days past.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Yes, I will continue to beat that drum. I think
you do need to add. I was curious because the
Colts had the same injury situation they had last week
at defensive end. No Taekwon Lewis, no Samson, ebcom jt
to Umaloao played about half the snaps last week and
this week he played eleven, so a very reduced role
for him. And right now it just seems like your
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pass rush is either Buckner or Latu or you know,
you're kind.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Of Palmer random somewhere. Well, just look at the.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Quarterbacks that you still have the rest of the way,
and look at the quarterbacks that would be on the
AFC playoff schedule as well. So yes, I will continue
to be there and we'll see. I mean, the Colts
don't go to Berlin n till you know, late Thursday night,
so they can definitely execute a trade here in the
next thirty six hours and you know, get the guy
in here for practice and passport and all that, and
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then they're off to take on the Falcons. By the way,
I did see the Falcons. That's six sacks of Drake
May yesterday. So again their defense. Actually I was watching
multi games at once. Their defense looked pretty good to
the general blueprint of you know, can you get after
the Colts of the four or five man rush. We'll
see if Atlanta can dial that up.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
When of the Falcons leaving do we know yet and
do we like the Colts leaving on Thursday.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
It seems like most teams, and feel free to correct
me if I'm wrong, guys, but it seems like most
teams have adopted this Thursday leave. You keep the week
as normal as possible. You do the Melotone and Red
Eye Thursday night, you land Friday. You pretty much walk
through it Friday, and then at that point you're playing
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Sunday and boom, you're back home. After that. It seems
like any older days you would leave, you know, either
last night after the game or today, you would leave Monday,
do the whole you know week over there.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
But we've seen a lot of West Coast teams if
they play on the East Coast, they just go straight
over for the whole week. Well, the Rams practice in
Baltimore this year. They played the Ravens before they went
over there. They practiced in Baltimore for the whole week,
then they went over there.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
It would have made sense for the Colts to, you know,
you're right there on the East Coast, could have just
hopped the flight and gone over.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I was wondering if they might do that.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
But uh, Bears, boy, that game had twists and turns
the likes of which I haven't seen in quite some time.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
You imagine being a Bengals fan.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Oh, they're bitching and moaning each other. Now the offense
is like, ah, the defense is needs to get to
a stopping like do you know how much money is
in that offense right now? Where did you want that
money going in the DJ?
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Joe Flacco gets you back to back games of at
least thirty eight points and you lose both of them.
Is Trey Hendrickson now in the trade block?
Speaker 4 (32:44):
He was out yesterday? But yeah, I mean that was
the talking during the game, was that is this? You know,
this is the last image of him, of him on
a Bengals sideline.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
To use the old Warner Wolf rule, though, if you
had the under at eighty eight you lost. Think about that. Kevin.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Just an absurd game, Like it was like two and
a half minutes left and it was like forty one
to twenty something, and then just a string of events
happened where it's like, oh, Joe Flacco got a quick
score and then the on side kick hit the heel
of a Bear's special teamer and now the Bengals have
the ball? What just happened here? And we went from
Tremaine Edmonds looked like a ninety nine yard pick six
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walk off.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
All right, that's it.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
All of a sudden, you know, the Bengals took the
lead and you're like, oh god, not this again.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
For the two of you. Colston Loveland looked terrific yesterday.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
He was very Yeah, he finally had a breakout game.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I was wondering.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I was like, are we gonna see this or is
this gonna be kind of like Tyler Warren was clearly,
you know, is.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Getting the run of the rookies.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Colston Loveland showed up, and he showed up big time
and shout out to Kyle Mannung guy too, because DeAndre
Swift was injured and that man the seventh round running
back from Rutgers.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
He put it on his back and he looked he
was fortunate. Thing.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
By the way, speaking of Loveland, maybe the most surprising
elements yesterday five catches for twenty six arts for Tyler
Warren twenty six.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yards, and early on it looked like he was going
to have a decent.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
The Steelers had just been awful against tight ends this season.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
All Right, we got a lot to talk about. More
of your phone calls and texts coming up over the
course of the next thirty minutes or so, We've got
our goats of the week, We've got headlines of the week.
We've got all kinds of things to take care of.
And I haven't talked about a lot yet, but we
will discuss the return of Miles Turner to the field
house tonight. It's all straight ahead at ninety three five
and one of seven five.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
The fan.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Who is the goat?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I'd told with you all that I was the greatest
of all time.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Shorty, here's Michael at the fileline.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
I shout on even.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
The goat or goat? This guy sucks of the week?
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Boy Mark, you want to start with the good? Go
to the bad this week? Well, where are you going?
A rare Colts loss? I think we start with the bad?
All right, go ahead, what do you have going on
this week?
Speaker 4 (35:07):
My bad goes to Bengals coach Zach Taylor, who challenged
a play late in the game. DJ Moore had the
ball looked like he got knocked out of bounds at
like the one yard line and the ball went loose,
so that like, oh, maybe the Bengals get the ball
and that weird turnover. You know, if the ball goes
the end zone, the other team gets the ball, so
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it looked like, oh boy, the Bengals are going to
get the ball back, and the Bears just coughed up
a golden opportunity to score. Not only did it not
go the Bengals way with the challenge, the refs turned
it over and said no. In fact, Dj Moore did
cross the plane. It was a touchdown for the Bears.
So a challenge for the Bengals that they thought was
gonna get them. The ball actually turned into a Bears touchdown,
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which otherwise wouldn't have gone their way had Zach Taylor
not challenged it. So thank you Zach Taylor. That turned
out well. That was an epic backfire on a coach's challenge.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Bengals were struggling too. They gave up the almost never
happens on side kick late in that game too.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
I'm sure Zach Taylor just kicking himself because like, they
weren't going to call that a touchdown until I challenged it.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
What an idiot, Kevin? Can you match that venom.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
My goat from the weekend? Negative fashion is my metabolism?
Speaker 6 (36:18):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (36:19):
What a beautiful Friday night for Halloween. I hope everyone
had an enjoyable time, a safe time. Mark. Hope your
girls came home with everything that they wanted from a
candy standpoint, But my ability to take my kid's candy
and eat the same amount that I have had in
recent years and on sitting is gone. My gut feels
huge right now still and I can feel it. I
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just my metabolism stinks. It looks like the Bengals trying
to tackle Colston Lovelin. It is awful, it's waning, it's horrible,
it's lost its fastball. I'm not Yamamoto. It's terrible. So
that's my negative goat from the weekend. Like usually I
can have a couple of recent he's maybe even a
little oh well, wow, fun dip. I haven't seen the
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fun dip in a while, and now I feel like
I'm full until Thursday.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I'm gonna build on that and go one step further.
Saturday night, I had the opportunity to take my youngest
son to go see the Pacers, and he wanted to
see Steph Curry because he's never seen Steph Curry in person.
So we go to the game, we make it a
big night, We get downtown early, we park the car.
We're walking over the field House. My son goes, Dad,
we don't have to get anything to eat at the
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at the arena, can we? He goes, We're walking by
the five Guys downtown and he goes, can we just
get five guys. I'm like, sure, let's go get five
guys your night. Let's go do it. So we go
get five guys, nothing out of the ordinary. He gets
a cheese broker. I get an old cheese boker, get
the get the fries. Everything's okay. But then we get
into the field House and we both kind of simultaneously
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have this other great idea. Hey we're here, it's your
big night. You want to get a shake shack because
they got the they got the shake where they only
they only serve the show over there, right, what do
they call it the shake something? I can't remember what
they actually call it, but anyway, it's shakeshack Shake. We
go over there, and about towards the end of the
first quarter, both of us start looking at each other
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and like, what I've decided, you can have five guys,
you can have a shake from shakeshack. You cannot do
both of those things together at the same time.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
So you're also feeling it.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
You can't do those things together at the same time.
In my bell, it was Jeff on Friday. So we're
walking back from the game afterwards on Saturday night, and
we're both kind of not feeling that great.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
Jeff's hurling next to Pearl Street.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
And my son looks up at me and he goes, Dad,
I feel like there's a chemistry experiment being conducted in
my stomach right now.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
The bubble guts so wouldn't be the first one to
probably project itself out of ten roof.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
We kind of went the same direction. Even his young metabolism,
My metabolism definitely couldn't handle that.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
That's your negative goat.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Yes, I would say that was a go You can't
put them to Jake and a Burger, can't put the
two of them together.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
I didn't have Jeff and is so my again.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Soft fast The combination the goat technically is you cannot
combine fast food.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Is what I've learned, Mark your great goat, my great goat.
Game seven of the World Series was great. I was
pins and needles. I didn't have a horse in the race,
but I was glued in. I was locked in just
so many great moments in that game. The ball that
just gets wedged under the matt in the outfield. I
mean that that basically cost the Blue Jays the game
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right there, because that would have been multiple runs probably,
And then they had just so many dramatic moments. Will
Smith's foot briefly losing touch with home plate. You thought
the Blue Jays might have got it. You got Keik
here and Anda's falling backwards to throw the guy out
at home. There's so many moments there. The collision in
the outfield, I thought that was the game over so
many ups and downs, A thrilling Game seven of the
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World Series.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
Yeah, I'm gonna go there as well, but specifically, I'm
gonna go to John Smoltz. I think he is the
best analyst in sports. I think he does such a
great job or knowing when to talk when not to talk.
Does it help that Joe Davis calls Dodgers games, Certainly
he provided a ton of great intel I think for
the casual, you know, baseball fan. But Smoltz was at
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his best when Jeff Hoffman is thrown to I think
it was to Rojas now that I think about it.
There and he said something along the lines of like,
he needs to throw an action pitch right here. And
I think when he said it, he knew full well
he was talking a little deep into baseball. So he
immediately says, Hey, when I say action pitch, I mean
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you've got to make sure that the bat is on
the ball here somewhere around the zone. And sure enough,
that's exactly the pitch that happened. And I think it
was a Rojas home run now that I'm now that
I'm thinking about it here. But I just think Smoltz
is awesome. I think he's so good, provides the right
amount of insight, doesn't care about his ego. You know,
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I'm watching Romo yesterday. I'm just like, oh, this is
just my numbing here, give me more John Smoltz.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah. I love John Smoltz, not only for all it
he provides insight wise, but to this day, he's on
my short list of guys I want starting a Game
seven in any contest, a World series. And to that point,
my goat, I'm going to expand it a little bit.
I'm just gonna make it game sevens We saw a
Game seven that didn't go our way, certainly in the
NBA Finals. This year, we've seen game sevens in hockey,
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whether it's the conference finals. The finals only went six
games this year, but we saw game seven in the
World Series. There is and we all know this, it's
stating the obvious, but I just want to underline it
and put it in bold mark. There is nothing in
sports like a Game seven that ends a season that's
lasted seven, seven and a half months. There's nothing like it.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Outstanding Saturday night lived up to all expectation, everything you
want in a game seven.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
It lived up to the hype.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
Yeah, we probably should individual go to We'll give James
Boyd's goat to Yamamoto. I mean, yeah, what he did
in coming back and throwing what thirty some pitches, whatever
he did, the velocity was incredible. I know we live
in a ninety five the night before, right, we live
in an era of load management, this and that, and
we debated seemingly nightly. Here what an effort from him?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Yeah, and I thought, if you look at the start
of the game too, I know, only a few innings,
a little what two and a third I think for
for shoheo tane mark, he gave everything he had through
the entire season. He just looked like a tired guy,
is what he looked. I don't blame him, and he
still was fairly effective. He kept him in the game,
but he was tired.
Speaker 6 (42:33):
Man.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
That guy was exhausted
You're listening to the best of the Fan Morning Show
on ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
He sees the Fan Morning Show with KB jab and Jeff.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Here's a quarterback sneak by Daniel Jones. He's in touchdown
and the Steelers have gone three and out on both
of their drives.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
To begin the game.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
As Porless Weightman punts and he may have been run
into as Josh Dallas buffs the ball. It's picked up
by the Steelers packing to throw on play action as
Jones and the ball may have come out.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
And it is a strip sack.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
And a recovery by t J. Watts first takeaway in
the last three plus games and TJ utt the strip
sack Master, gets a sack and a fumble recovery. Daniel
Jones takes to the air and he throws it right
to a Steeler that's Peyton Wilson. He's at the twenty
and then tripped up and it's the third giveaway today
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already in this first half by the Pups. Rogers backs
to throw plants zips it up field the end it
caught the color line for a touch. Get on, Pet Fryer, Dude,
Jones RPO throws it up and.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
It pecked off.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
It's bettered up the air and accepted by the Steelers
and they sweep it till warn and he's in touchdown.
Pittsburgh has the biggest advantage so far. Jones onto the gun.
Paul m near Hash backs to pass again and then
it's tipped the line of scrimmage again incomplete. No, it's
recovered by Petsburg Dath and it rows. Jones are in
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the middle flies it. He picked off Joey Porter Junior.
I tried to go to Josh downs but was intercepted
by Porter. That's giveaway number six today for the Indianapolis Courts.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Hard to win when you turn it over like we did.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
To turn over as many times as we did today,
we have tough time winning.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So obviously that's on that's on me.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
I gotta protect the ball better and make sure we're
giving ourselves a chance.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Get out. The last thing we hear there is the
appreciative Indianapolis loving Miles Turner showing so much love to
the crowd and back and of course six turnovers for
the Indianapolis Colts. We had a classic World Series game
over the weekend Indiana. A lot of people are talking
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about them being the number one team in the nation
right now. All kinds of sports to talk about today,
and Kevin Bowen, good morning. Our third member of the
show is in an airport somewhere in Pittsburgh getting ready
to come home after watching that game yesterday. Mark Dyton
Here as always, Kevin Bowen, Where do you want to start?
For six turnovers? Classic World Series game Indiana Football? Miles
(02:46):
Turner returning. I mean, so much stuff going on this morning?
Where's your brain locked? Right now? I'm watching, I know
where it's at, but where you get? Where do you
want to start? I mean Saturday?
Speaker 5 (02:56):
And I was a I can't believe there are people
in this world that don't like sports moment, so I
would love love to start there. But this is local radio,
so I guess we will stick with the task. Can
I think I said to you last Monday, I feel
like these shows have become redundant, and that's a positive
to the colts. You know, we had done the same
Monday show over and over again. We haven't done this
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one though all year long, and we haven't really talked
about a loss. Of course more than twice here this season.
So yeah, really shocking performance, particularly I thought from the
Colts offensive line. I think that'll be the root of
so much of what we talk about. And boy, I'm curious, Mark,
does that cut make the tribute video tonight? Do we
hear that in twelve hours from now?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I think we will.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I think you'll hear it.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
You will hear that specific cut.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
I think you'll hear it, And then I think the
live crowd will instead of cheers, will be booze.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Would the NBA look at the game operations as inciting
negative behavior if they did that.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
No, because the crowd's gonna react.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
How the crowd's going Yeah, seem like and again, twelve
hours from now, Bucks, I assume twelve hours from now,
the tribute video might very well be played about seven
oh three, seven oh four. I do think the miles
turn to chatter as of late has led to the
crowded reaction being okay, it might have been majority of
booze saved until the game starts, right, and I now
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I think it's going to be sprinkled, maybe even heavily
sprinkled into that tribute video.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
He's been talking an awful lot and it never looks
positively on his time in Indiana, as he's now a
member of the Milwaukee Bucks talking about Miles Turner and
the Bucks in town tonight, and so we got a
lot to talk about there. And as I said on Friday,
I think you're right, Kevin. I think it's starting to
change a little bit more negative, just in the hole,
because a week ago we talked about this and I said,
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I think you'll get a nice ovation when he's announced,
and then you boo him every time he touches the
ball for a while, right, But I think you're right.
I think there's going to be a smattering, if not
more so, an avalanche of booze at the very beginning
of the game, just because of how much talking he's
done and how much has come out over the last week,
week and a half. Not terrible, terrible stuff, but just
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stuff like, dude, why are you still talking? Why can't
you just say, hey, I had a really good time
in Indiana for better than a decade. It was time
for me to do something different. Why can't you just
stop there.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
It's been a while since we have this Monday anger,
has it not?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It has? And we've got angst everywhere. Kevin got angst
unless you're an Indiana football fan and you're just gliding
on a magic carpet right now, Man, did they look good?
And we'll talk about all this before it gets going,
before the show is done today, and we're going to
take a lot of feedback today. I think today is
a perfect day to hear from you on the phones
at two three nine ten seventy on the fan text
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line at two three nine ten seventy. I want to
get it off your chest. There's a lot of already
before we even got going. There are some folks that
are a little upset with the cults right now. And
the big question nationally you've seen it, Kevin, and maybe
we need to ask it here too. Did the clock
strike midnight and the Colts return to who they truly are?
Or was that an anomaly one game in what has
been a nine game season so far in which it
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has been overwhelmingly positive for the most part, and that's
just one of those games that happens in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Yeah, I think you've earned then for the doubt to
put it simply, so I don't look at it and say,
I guess to use the analogy there the clock striking midnight.
I mean, you could just boil it down to six turnovers.
I could just repeat that for again, how many six turnovers?
I believe the last time they had done that. And
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I actually remember this game quite well, Peyton Manning tossed
not one, not two, not three, not four, not five,
but six interceptions in a Sunday night game against the Chargers.
They si almost won the game out of videtary. Mister
Chip shot to win that game. I believe that was
after maybe the fifth I think he hadn't thrown his
six just yet. That's last time. That was two thousand
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and seven in the years what twenty twenty five, so
quite a long time ago. So yeah, you could boil
so much of it down to that. You know, I
will say, I guess a couple items. One, if you'd
have told me at the start of the day, DK
Metcalf's gonna have two catches for six yards. Jalen Warren's
gonna have under two yards per carry. The Cults are
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going to go and convert five for five on fourth down.
They're gonna fake a punt, right, they outgain Pittsburgh by
what one hundred and forty some yards? I'd be like
cults rolled. It's the same old Monday show we've done
time and time again. So why again it all boils
down to the offensive line. Now, there is a little
bit of a thought that you know, again, one more
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game before the bye week, and you know, more of
these types of games I think do show up on
the schedule the rest of the way, a little bit
more of a quality opponent, rode atmospheres, et cetera, et cetera.
If you can have an effective which is easier so
than done, but if you can have an effective four
or five man rush, put a little bit more on
the plate of Daniel Jones, what happens?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, And I thought everybody's going to talk about Daniel
Jones this morning. And he made some costly turnovers obviously,
and didn't play his best game by a long shot.
But I thought the only word to describe the offensive
line yesterday was awful. They couldn't run the ball, they
couldn't protect Daniel Jones. We talked about TJ. Watt being
a game wrecker, not only him, but it seemed like
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there were three or four guys on that front seven
that were game wreckers for Pittsburgh yesterday. Like there was
a lot going on there, and it wasn't all just
on Daniel Jones. Kevin, I thought the Watt strip sack
changed the game. Yeah, and that was fair. That was
first quarter, right, late first quarter, early second?
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Is it early second already now if I'm not mistaken,
But that to me, Jeff was just I'm such a
believer in game flow. And at that point you had
the thirteen play touchdown drive. Yeah, Pittsburgh had done nothing,
and they had already gotten the short field off of
the Josh Allen smuff punt, and they still hadn't converted that.
They'd had ten plays to that point without a single
first down. That is a first and ten for the
Colts in scoring range. They are on the way to
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go up ten nothing, fourteen nothing. And if you there
are going to be some boots tonight inside a game
bridge Field House. If the Colts would have gone up
ten or fourteen nothing, those yellow towels would have been
used as megaphones to be booing Mike Tomlin and company.
And that Watt play just I think single handedly changed
the game. And the avalanche started from there. And I
just thought Daniel Jones never looked settled after that he
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threw the pick on the very next drive, easily his
worst interception of the year, and then those ends in particular,
high Smith and Watt just continued to tee off the
rest of the game. So that play, which I've thought
about a lot. You know, it's a first down play.
You know, are you a little greedy there trying to
take a shot? You know, I know JJ Watt did
a nice job diagraming it afterwards. You when Tyler Warren
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was wide open the flat look like Daniel Jones was
looking for Alec Pierce, which when Alec Pierce starts the
game like he did, I understand wanting to hang in
the pocket and maybe look for Pierce down the field.
But again, I'm not overly concerned about this one. But
you know, I can hear from people that say, hey, look,
when the Rams have showed up, when the Chargers have
showed up, when the Steelers have showed up, on the
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Broncos have showed up, it's been about a coin flip team.
And those are the types of teams you will see
in January. Now, again, you got to position yourself for January,
and that means largely taking care of business when you
play bottom feeders and don't do what the Packers did yesterday,
or don't do what the Lions did yesterday, and you know,
take care of business when those teams pop up on
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the schedule. So the Colts have definitely done that. And weirdly,
like I mean, Jacksonville is only one game back in
the lost column. For those that watch at four o'clock game,
that was a huge two point conversion that the Jags
batted down to win that game. When the Colts and Jags,
if you have to face off this season.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
There's a lot of crazy things happening in that Jacksonville game.
We'll get to all of that, but before we move
on completely, I just want to make sure we talk
about this for a moment. A lot of Colts talk
coming up, and I see we're already getting an avalanche
of messages on the fan text line two, three, nine, ten, seventy.
Keep that coming. We'll get to that coming up in
a little while here. But Kevin, I've been watching sports
professionally for a long, long time. Long time. I have
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covered Major League Baseball at MLB Network Radio. I've covered
the NFL since day one, NBA same thing. I'm a
huge Hockey Fan covered the NHL for a while. One
of the top five best games of any sport I've
ever seen in my life. And maybe it's recentcy biased,
but I'm going with it right now. How much time
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did you get to spend watching Game seven of the
World Series on Saturday night between the Dodgers and Blue Chase.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Yeah, I watched everything. Yep epic, just epic. Again. Why
you love sports? There's no other way to describe it.
The unpredictability, the heroic efforts Yamamoto. I saw someone's tweet.
I think he's reporting pitchers and catchers are reporting today
and he's the one leading it, you know, for next year.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
It just he's starting a Fall League game today.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Probably literally, Yeah, you know the Japan national team of
a game today?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Is he pitches them?
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Just epic and Rojas doing what he I just yeah,
Like it was one of those where I was like,
I need to sleep, but I don't want it to end. Yeah,
And that's when you know sports is pretty good.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
There were so many moments in that game, too, whether
it was the ball getting lodged under the cushion or
the Will Smith's foot just briefly losing place with home
plate and all that, and just like stuff like that
where it's like there are just moments in this game
they're just like, can we keep this going?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
How about in the night that wild catch where the
outfisers almost running.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Into each other to each other, and he k Hernandez
saying after the game that he was like on the
ground being like he thought the game was over. He
had to hear, you know, from his teammate there that
the ball was caught. He was like, no, no, no, I
thought it was over at that point. So yeah, just
a absolutely, absolutely epic Game seven of the World Series.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Man, that was just so much fun to watch. It
was one of those things. And Mark, I know you
watch baseball one hundred and sixty two games for the
Cubs every year, but what I love about playoff baseball
and especially Game seven, right that goes without saying. You
can feel the tension rise with every pitch in every inning.
Everything means so much. And who doesn't want a guy
on their team? And I thought this for a couple
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of years now, and as somebody who I'm neither four
against the Dodgers, I just want to watch team great
players play. Doesn't everybody on any sport. Whant a guy
like Max Montsky on your team, Kevin who just somehow
finds a way to come through in the clutch every
time his team needs him.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
It's almost a forgotten play with you know how everything
unfolded once he got to the ninth and on that So, yeah,
it was. It was tremendous. Thank you to falling back.
My kids, I'm not very happy about it right now
in relation to them, but I was very happy to
get the extra hour on Saturday night.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Last night, getting them to bed was a nightmare, right and.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Last thing before we break and get to the to
the first checkdown. The defense in that game was insanely good.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
K k Hernandez almost falling over but throwing out the
guy at home was unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Some of those plays at first place, the first base
though by Vlad unbelievable, just incredible stuff.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
So anyway, the greatest game seven of witnessed in these.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
In my life. I know which one you're referring too.
I'm by it a rain delay, little Rangeling action, yep,
all right, coming up in a moment to check down
a lot of cult stuff today, A little bit of
Pacers and Miles Turner Pacers with that. They're on a
winning they're trying for a winning streak tonight. Kevin, I'm
here for it. We'll talk about it all over the
next two and a half hours or so. Right here
on ninety three five and one, o seven to five,
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Daniel Jones, quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts. Yeah, turnovers will
do that to you. Six turnovers, five turnovers technically, and
a muffed punt lead to a twenty seven to twenty
Pittsburgh Steelers victory. That was Daniel Jones after the game.
You actually, Kevin Boone, we need to have Scotty do
some research. I wonder how often a team that's turned
the ball over six times in an NFL game has
ever won.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
I believe the Colts wore two and twenty three as
a franchise. Okay, with six turnovers in a game, and
I went back to two thousand league wide, five ninety
two and one, five ninety two and one.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
So your chances are a about six percent, is what
you're saying right in that neighborhood.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Not very good, No, not very very good.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Let's check in with the third member of our broadcast team.
He is in Pittsburgh getting ready to come back from
watching that game yesterday in person, James Boyd. First of all,
how are your eyes after watching that thing? They all
intact everything. Okay, my eyes are good.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
But I gotta say I told y'all would talk at
seven thirty. It is seven thirty five. I'll run a
tight shit, man, got if you on time.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
You're here now. So tell us what your big takeaway
for the Colts moving forward was yesterday?
Speaker 6 (15:32):
The story ear after the game was basically how people
are going to use this as fuel to say Daniel
Jones isn't real, the Colts aren't wheel and this team
isn't for real. And so I think that the way
they respond after this game will be key to how
the narrative of the season kind of goes because it's
so easy to pick on them now and have that
low hanging through because in my opinion, I looked at
it like, you know, this is a team that's better
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than that. But six turnovers, losing again to a team
with a winning record. They've only got two wins this
year against teams of winning records. That's something that's a
big problem.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
James.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Any similarities between the two losses for you Rams and
now Steelers.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
Yes, to know, I think you can say it's very
self inflicted, but I think you have to give more
credit to the Steelers when it comes to just the
mistakes that were made, Like, yeah, they were turnovers, and
a couple of them probably were on them. The Josh
Downs turnover, the first interception I'll leave from Daniel Jones,
but a couple other plays I just felt like, you know,
you have to get credit to that Steelers pass rus.
They really just whooped up on the coast offensive line.
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That is something to keep an eye on because they
had been great all year. So yeah, Daniel Jones gets
the blame, he gets all the turnovers, but the offensive
line I think was a bigger, you know, overarching, you
know message from that game because Daniel Jones ran for
his life from most of the day and it resulted
in obviously one of his worst days and him looking
like the guy that got you know, banished from New York.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
And when you talk about that offensive line, I don't
think any of us saw that coming. Credit to Steelers
not letting Jonathan Taylor get loose. Obviously they got backed
into a corner and Pittsburgh could could pin their ears back.
But what was the sentiment of that offensive line and
Shane Stikeen in the locker room afterwards.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
I think a lot of it. They just felt like,
you know, this is a chance for us to respond.
Michael Piman Junior had a funny comment about how they,
you know, didn't want to go seventeen, you know anyway,
because I guess if you do that and you're the Patriots,
you're gonna lose in the big one when it matters
the most. But I'd have the hard to tell them like, yeah,
you already dropped one, so see undefeated seasons already off
the board. But they were just talking about how they
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had to basically rally and make sure it doesn't spiral
us anything bigger. Now they think they have the resolve
to do that is just again the pundits, the bigger markets,
the people who don't pay in this team all year,
they're gonna look at this one game and say, okay,
well the Colts are frauds. So I think this is
kind of fuel to that fire to say, Okay, if
you aren't fraudulent, if you are for real, go out
there in Germany next week and beat the Falcons and
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obviously a huge one coming up a week twelve against
the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
James, you already saw a little trade dead activity here
this morning. We'll get to that in just a second.
But did yesterday do anything for you on your opinion
with the trade deadline for the Colts coming up four
o'clock on Tuesday.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
Not necessarily. I kind of felt like they should have,
you know, made a move or should make a move
before tomorrow's deadline. But at the same time, it wasn't
like it was invalidated or reinforced yesterday. I feel like,
if anything in defense actually wasn't the problem for the
first time this year, it was the offense. You gave
them a lot of short fields to work with, and
the defense tried to bail you out. They helped you
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out on the Josh Downs muff punt, but then you
cannot keep seeing to do that. Look at those points
in that game, I believe the Steelers scored twenty four
to twenty tep of points off of turnovers, and I
just can't happen against a team that. Yeah, the Feelers
might not be that great on paper, but they found
waste one mate one second.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, Well, we'll give James Boyd just one second, theraseaes
I don't know if he's going through security or whatever.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Listening to the exit row instructions.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Right, that's probably what it is right there. But yeah,
the Colts try it. That's all of a sudden, no
go ahead, you were you were going to continue your
thought there we talk about Atlanta and what's coming up
next and how they what really happens next determines the
narrative for this Colts team. But did you get the
sense that they're just gonna say, hey, look, aberration, we
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got to do a lot better and we're going to
move on. What is that kind of what you got
from that locker room?
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (19:21):
I think a lot of it. They basically were saying,
it's kind of like an anomaly, you know, have a
six turnovers, which it is. I mean, thus the turnovers
by any team in a single game this season. I
believe it's tired of the franchise record and just a
weird day overall for them. However, again, I think the
offensive line has to really look in the mirror and say,
we can't be this bad. We can't be this for us,
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because you know, Brit Smith I thought, did not play
that what thought Bernard Ryman for a guy who gave
one hundred eight dollars tackle?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
All right, we're losing it out, James. What means you're
about to take off? We appreciate you checking in from
the airport in Pittsburgh because he was there to cover
for the athletic the twenty seven to twenty loss for
the Indianapolis Colts to the Pittsburgh Steelers yesterday.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Do you like when the flight attendants make jokes.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
On the Oh, it doesn't bother me. It tells me
that they're at least trying to be in a good
mood for everybody.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, first thing I do when I get on a plane.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Some of them are really good. Yeah, I'm not gonna
lie some of some of the jokes I like audibly
laugh at.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Have you heard the same joke twice? Though I travel
a lot, sometimes.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Travel enough for me to hear the same joke twice.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
But the one thing I do, though, when I first
get on the plane, I go out of my way
to make eye contact, smile and say, hey, hope you
guys having a great day today.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Oh, it's very nice.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I just find that your flight can be better if
you already get a little simpatico going with the flight attendant.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Pound wings, you know, if you're flying Southwest. The Dolphins
have traded Jalen Phillips to the Eagles for a third
round pick. We've talked a lot about Miami's situation. They
fire their GM after the loss on Thursday Night Football.
Their ends Bradley Chubb and Jalen Phillips were long rumored
to be candidates to be traded. He and again Jalen
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Phillips former first rounder. I believe I'm not mistaken. He
is a free agent coming up this offseason. So that's
a third round pick for you know, a rental back
half of the season and we'll see if they can
resign him. But puts a little bit of market value
I think out there, and I'll continue to reiterate what
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I've said throughout with the trade deadline. Jeff to me,
I have viewed corner less than edge rusher, and I
think yesterday was a reminder in my opinion of my thoughts.
First off, credit to Jalen Jones back in the lineup,
played the most snaps of any Colts cornerback. I thought
he was a big part in helping limit DK Metcalf
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to just two catches. I mean DK Metcalf had two
catches for six yards. The biggest play DK Metcalf made
all day was catching the onside kick to ice the game.
So really good from Jalen Jones in his return. I
know he had the dumb penalty there at the end
of the first half, but I thought in terms of coverage,
he gave you something you expect Tavarius Ward back, you
know at some point here, probably after the bye week,
and so you know, to me, I kind of look
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at trade deadline acquisitions almost at corner you could have
some in house. Whereas edge rush, I mean it's single
handy won the game for Pittsburgh yesterday. And obviously I'm
not saying you're finding wat and Highsmith out there in
the open market. But you know, j T Twoumloau got
an expanded role last week and then this week he
played eleven snaps.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
At um penalty too. Didn't at one point, Yeah, well
I thought a.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Lot two gave you a little bit of rush, but
still you just you just not get in again. I'm
not yesterday necessarily isn't the reflection of the Colts per se,
but it's more of a reminder of what ineffective rush
can do for any team, and I thought Pittsburgh had that,
and I think the Colts have not had enough of
that over their nine games this season. So be curious
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how this move around the league begins. The Domino.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
All right, Colts Nation, let's get your feedback now, two
three nine, ten seventy the fan text line. You can
also call us up if you've got toime on your
way to work this morning, two three nine, ten seventy,
and you can sound off on the telephone right here,
TC pointing out that they never went in Pittsburgh. Just
try to move on and win Sunday in Berlin. You're
eight and two through ten games. I'll take that back
at the beginning of the season in August. I think
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it was such an anomaly. You go back and I
think you show the guys all the film and all
the things you did wrong and all the things you
got to correct. But I do think in a weird way,
so many turnovers you can say to yourself, man, that
was awful, Let's never let that happen again, and then
turn the page, don't you.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Yeah, I mean six turnovers obviously is a Fluke. I mean,
when you look at it now, you know, again a
team producing an effective four or five man rush like
the Rams did in Week four and like Pittsburgh did yesterday,
And honestly, I probably shouldn't even go immediately towards the rush.
I would say what they did to Jonathan Taylor. And
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I know this was a debate heavily yesterday during the
game from fans. I got a lot of questions about it.
Did you have any issue Jeff and the usage of
Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
It was such a weird game. The game script became
tough because at a certain point, especially when it became
seventeen to seven, they're just pinning their ears back and
they're coming at you. And I just thought that they
put the Colts in a very defense on offense and
put them kind of in a very defensive position, and
just you've seen that when when NFL defensive fronts that
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front seven starts feeling pretty good about things, and you've
got a Highsmith and you've got a TJ. Watt, it
feels like everything comes harder, doesn't it.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Yeah, I thought, I don't know, maybe I'm used to
twenty twenty five chain stikeend but he has fully embraced
his own mantra, which he has said this throw to score,
run to win. I didn't think it was as much
of a lack of Taylor usage as it was a
lack of a run game effectiveness.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Offensive line was struggling yesterday.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Right in both run and pass. I mean, you look
at the first half. Taylor had eight carries. There's been
many games this season where he's only had eight carries,
and if you look at it, I want to say,
his long rush in the first half was like six yard.
I mean, think about that, eight carries in your long
rush is six yards. Then in the third quarter, where
it's still you know, back and forth gain, that's you know,
at that point you're not in all throw mode. He
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had six carries in that quarter and his long rush
was nine. So I just I don't chalk yesterday up
to a, hey, you didn't give Taylor the ball enough.
Uh No, I look at it more of a your
offensive line got whipped. And they got whipped not only
in some of the individual breakdowns on the edge that
we saw from TJ. Watt and Alex Highsmith, but they
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also got whipped in terms of establishing the line of
scrimmage for Taylor, and that will be I think again,
I don't think it's you know, sound the alarms and
evacuate the building. But are there other teams out there
that can do that? And will they try to do that?
Of hey, try and take away Taylor's best.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
We can do.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
We have some individual rushers that can muddy the pocket
for Daniel Jones. And if you muddy the pocket of
Jones and takeaways, first or second read, what does he
look like? Because yesterday he looked pretty rough.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, a lot of folks chiming in saying, let's stop
overreacting to one game, still in first place. Pat was
one of the many who've sent that in. Anthony said
the offensive line was truly offensive. At least half of
the turnovers can be attributed to the offensive line being
pushed back like schoolgirls into Daniel Jones face. Shane did
not do them any favors by refusing to call a
screen pass, which is the number one recipe for stopping
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a blitzing defense. It just it did feel like at
a certain point from that second quarter on that that front,
as I've said a couple of times, that front seven
felt like they could just pin their ears back and
let's go.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
I'll be a broken record by the time ten Am
rolls around. The TJ. Watt stripsack. Change the game? It
absolutely changed the game. You were thirteen play touchdown drive
to start your defense. I thought was very good to
start that game. I mean, think about the muff pump
by Josh downs and how big Kenny Moore was and
keeping Pittsburgh out of the end zone there. I mean
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that was four downs. You didn't allow them to get
into the end zone. You were driving to go up
either ten nothing, maybe even fourteen nothing. You got a
first and ten And what makes that play on Braiden Smith?
And to me, there's a checklist, you know, could you
have chip with Jonathan Taylor there? Do you need to leave?
You know again, what on an island? Braden Smith? On
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an island with wat Could Daniel Jones have felt that
a little better? Should he have had better ball security
within the pocket? You know, CBS did a good job
of diagramming that that play. Afterwards it looked like he
was trying to take the shot to Pierce. Is that
one Wheyre? Hey, you got to realize Braiden Smith's a
single team right here? Yes, I'd love to take the
shot to Pierce, but I should probably look for that
checkdown to Tyler Warren a little bit quicker in my
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sort of progression there. I think those are all questions
you would have on that play. But yeah, I just
thought what changed it? And in general, Jeff I thought
what was extra frustrating about the Colts offenensive line effort yesterday?
I thought so many of the breakdowns and or Jones turnovers,
they didn't occur in third and longs. You know, sometimes
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when you play these teams, you get into third and thirteens,
third and fifteens, and they're foaming at the mouth to
get after you. I mean, you think about it, the
first and ten, what makes that play? Jones's interception there
on the next drive, I think it was like a
second and short. I want to say that the tip
ball that Jack Sawyer intercepted was a second and one.
You know it weren't. It wasn't these long down and
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distance situations. It was just winning just one, and you know,
I think that kind of adds to it.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I will say this, what was crazy about the whole
day yesterday is I thought that Daniel Jones made three
or four just insane throws a couple of times under pressure,
but there was one that he that he dropped into
Alec Pierce how about the first long game, the first.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Third and eleven of the game. Yeah, I mean that
was a big time right there to Pierce there, I
an eagle, you know, drops into a bucket. I thought
was a really good way to, uh to describe it.
So yeah, it just just so much of it is
a root in the offensive line play, which there hasn't
been a Monday. I've said that really all year long.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
You guys ever chewed gum as much as Danny Smith has, Oh.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
My gosh, that guy was a machine with that yesterday.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
And I will say they were really getting into that.
But then every time they showed him at the end
of the game, I was like, damn, it's like he's
got a chipmunk in that cheek of his.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
It was reminded me of the ace Ventura scene where
he's eating a bunch of gum and it's just taking
up the entire size.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
That's what it was like. Cower is your jaw and
not completely sore. And JJ Watt was right, Bazooka can
lose the flavor pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Yeah, there's no gun that loses flavor quicker than the
double bubble.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
The blue and the pink wrapper is knocking on the
door comes in a huge bucket. I swear I chopped
that thing for thirty six seconds. Flavor is gone, and
then I feel like I'm ripping out my back molers
the rest of the time I got it in there.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah, big league or bust is what I say. Uh.
Samford Newcastle says they looked slow on grass. Ryan from
Pendleton says, uh, maybe he misunderstood h JB. But the
Colts need help on that d line. Quit He pays
a liability, he says, but it was earlier in the
game when Stike and bailed on the run never really
made an attempt to run the ball. We've addressed that,
but what about overall that defensive line. Still want to
(30:11):
add somebody there before the next couple of days past.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Yes, I will continue to beat that drum. I think
you do need to add. I was curious because the
Colts had the same injury situation they had last week
at defensive end. No Taekwon Lewis, no Samson, ebcom jt
to Umaloao played about half the snaps last week and
this week he played eleven, so a very reduced role
for him. And right now it just seems like your
(30:36):
pass rush is either Buckner or Latu or you know,
you're kind.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Of Palmer random somewhere. Well, just look at the.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Quarterbacks that you still have the rest of the way,
and look at the quarterbacks that would be on the
AFC playoff schedule as well. So yes, I will continue
to be there and we'll see. I mean, the Colts
don't go to Berlin n till you know, late Thursday night,
so they can definitely execute a trade here in the
next thirty six hours and you know, get the guy
in here for practice and passport and all that, and
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then they're off to take on the Falcons. By the way,
I did see the Falcons. That's six sacks of Drake
May yesterday. So again their defense. Actually I was watching
multi games at once. Their defense looked pretty good to
the general blueprint of you know, can you get after
the Colts of the four or five man rush. We'll
see if Atlanta can dial that up.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
When of the Falcons leaving do we know yet and
do we like the Colts leaving on Thursday.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
It seems like most teams, and feel free to correct
me if I'm wrong, guys, but it seems like most
teams have adopted this Thursday leave. You keep the week
as normal as possible. You do the Melotone and Red
Eye Thursday night, you land Friday. You pretty much walk
through it Friday, and then at that point you're playing
(31:46):
Sunday and boom, you're back home. After that. It seems
like any older days you would leave, you know, either
last night after the game or today, you would leave Monday,
do the whole you know week over there.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
But we've seen a lot of West Coast teams if
they play on the East Coast, they just go straight
over for the whole week. Well, the Rams practice in
Baltimore this year. They played the Ravens before they went
over there. They practiced in Baltimore for the whole week,
then they went over there.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
It would have made sense for the Colts to, you know,
you're right there on the East Coast, could have just
hopped the flight and gone over.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I was wondering if they might do that.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
But uh, Bears, boy, that game had twists and turns
the likes of which I haven't seen in quite some time.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
You imagine being a Bengals fan.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Oh, they're bitching and moaning each other. Now the offense
is like, ah, the defense is needs to get to
a stopping like do you know how much money is
in that offense right now? Where did you want that
money going in the DJ?
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Joe Flacco gets you back to back games of at
least thirty eight points and you lose both of them.
Is Trey Hendrickson now in the trade block?
Speaker 4 (32:44):
He was out yesterday? But yeah, I mean that was
the talking during the game, was that is this? You know,
this is the last image of him, of him on
a Bengals sideline.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
To use the old Warner Wolf rule, though, if you
had the under at eighty eight you lost. Think about that. Kevin.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Just an absurd game, Like it was like two and
a half minutes left and it was like forty one
to twenty something, and then just a string of events
happened where it's like, oh, Joe Flacco got a quick
score and then the on side kick hit the heel
of a Bear's special teamer and now the Bengals have
the ball? What just happened here? And we went from
Tremaine Edmonds looked like a ninety nine yard pick six
(33:24):
walk off.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
All right, that's it.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
All of a sudden, you know, the Bengals took the
lead and you're like, oh god, not this again.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
For the two of you. Colston Loveland looked terrific yesterday.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
He was very Yeah, he finally had a breakout game.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I was wondering.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I was like, are we gonna see this or is
this gonna be kind of like Tyler Warren was clearly,
you know, is.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Getting the run of the rookies.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Colston Loveland showed up, and he showed up big time
and shout out to Kyle Mannung guy too, because DeAndre
Swift was injured and that man the seventh round running
back from Rutgers.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
He put it on his back and he looked he
was fortunate. Thing.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
By the way, speaking of Loveland, maybe the most surprising
elements yesterday five catches for twenty six arts for Tyler
Warren twenty six.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yards, and early on it looked like he was going
to have a decent.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
The Steelers had just been awful against tight ends this season.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
All Right, we got a lot to talk about. More
of your phone calls and texts coming up over the
course of the next thirty minutes or so, We've got
our goats of the week, We've got headlines of the week.
We've got all kinds of things to take care of.
And I haven't talked about a lot yet, but we
will discuss the return of Miles Turner to the field
house tonight. It's all straight ahead at ninety three five
and one of seven five.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
The fan.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Who is the goat?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I'd told with you all that I was the greatest
of all time.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Shorty, here's Michael at the fileline.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
I shout on even.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
The goat or goat? This guy sucks of the week?
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Boy Mark, you want to start with the good? Go
to the bad this week? Well, where are you going?
A rare Colts loss? I think we start with the bad?
All right, go ahead, what do you have going on
this week?
Speaker 4 (35:07):
My bad goes to Bengals coach Zach Taylor, who challenged
a play late in the game. DJ Moore had the
ball looked like he got knocked out of bounds at
like the one yard line and the ball went loose,
so that like, oh, maybe the Bengals get the ball
and that weird turnover. You know, if the ball goes
the end zone, the other team gets the ball, so
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it looked like, oh boy, the Bengals are going to
get the ball back, and the Bears just coughed up
a golden opportunity to score. Not only did it not
go the Bengals way with the challenge, the refs turned
it over and said no. In fact, Dj Moore did
cross the plane. It was a touchdown for the Bears.
So a challenge for the Bengals that they thought was
gonna get them. The ball actually turned into a Bears touchdown,
(35:48):
which otherwise wouldn't have gone their way had Zach Taylor
not challenged it. So thank you Zach Taylor. That turned
out well. That was an epic backfire on a coach's challenge.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Bengals were struggling too. They gave up the almost never
happens on side kick late in that game too.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
I'm sure Zach Taylor just kicking himself because like, they
weren't going to call that a touchdown until I challenged it.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
What an idiot, Kevin? Can you match that venom.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
My goat from the weekend? Negative fashion is my metabolism?
Speaker 6 (36:18):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (36:19):
What a beautiful Friday night for Halloween. I hope everyone
had an enjoyable time, a safe time. Mark. Hope your
girls came home with everything that they wanted from a
candy standpoint, But my ability to take my kid's candy
and eat the same amount that I have had in
recent years and on sitting is gone. My gut feels
huge right now still and I can feel it. I
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just my metabolism stinks. It looks like the Bengals trying
to tackle Colston Lovelin. It is awful, it's waning, it's horrible,
it's lost its fastball. I'm not Yamamoto. It's terrible. So
that's my negative goat from the weekend. Like usually I
can have a couple of recent he's maybe even a
little oh well, wow, fun dip. I haven't seen the
(37:03):
fun dip in a while, and now I feel like
I'm full until Thursday.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I'm gonna build on that and go one step further.
Saturday night, I had the opportunity to take my youngest
son to go see the Pacers, and he wanted to
see Steph Curry because he's never seen Steph Curry in person.
So we go to the game, we make it a
big night, We get downtown early, we park the car.
We're walking over the field House. My son goes, Dad,
we don't have to get anything to eat at the
(37:28):
at the arena, can we? He goes, We're walking by
the five Guys downtown and he goes, can we just
get five guys. I'm like, sure, let's go get five
guys your night. Let's go do it. So we go
get five guys, nothing out of the ordinary. He gets
a cheese broker. I get an old cheese boker, get
the get the fries. Everything's okay. But then we get
into the field House and we both kind of simultaneously
(37:49):
have this other great idea. Hey we're here, it's your
big night. You want to get a shake shack because
they got the they got the shake where they only
they only serve the show over there, right, what do
they call it the shake something? I can't remember what
they actually call it, but anyway, it's shakeshack Shake. We
go over there, and about towards the end of the
first quarter, both of us start looking at each other
(38:11):
and like, what I've decided, you can have five guys,
you can have a shake from shakeshack. You cannot do
both of those things together at the same time.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
So you're also feeling it.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
You can't do those things together at the same time.
In my bell, it was Jeff on Friday. So we're
walking back from the game afterwards on Saturday night, and
we're both kind of not feeling that great.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
Jeff's hurling next to Pearl Street.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
And my son looks up at me and he goes, Dad,
I feel like there's a chemistry experiment being conducted in
my stomach right now.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
The bubble guts so wouldn't be the first one to
probably project itself out of ten roof.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
We kind of went the same direction. Even his young metabolism,
My metabolism definitely couldn't handle that.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
That's your negative goat.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Yes, I would say that was a go You can't
put them to Jake and a Burger, can't put the
two of them together.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
I didn't have Jeff and is so my again.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Soft fast The combination the goat technically is you cannot
combine fast food.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Is what I've learned, Mark your great goat, my great goat.
Game seven of the World Series was great. I was
pins and needles. I didn't have a horse in the race,
but I was glued in. I was locked in just
so many great moments in that game. The ball that
just gets wedged under the matt in the outfield. I
mean that that basically cost the Blue Jays the game
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right there, because that would have been multiple runs probably,
And then they had just so many dramatic moments. Will
Smith's foot briefly losing touch with home plate. You thought
the Blue Jays might have got it. You got Keik
here and Anda's falling backwards to throw the guy out
at home. There's so many moments there. The collision in
the outfield, I thought that was the game over so
many ups and downs, A thrilling Game seven of the
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World Series.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
Yeah, I'm gonna go there as well, but specifically, I'm
gonna go to John Smoltz. I think he is the
best analyst in sports. I think he does such a
great job or knowing when to talk when not to talk.
Does it help that Joe Davis calls Dodgers games, Certainly
he provided a ton of great intel I think for
the casual, you know, baseball fan. But Smoltz was at
(40:17):
his best when Jeff Hoffman is thrown to I think
it was to Rojas now that I think about it.
There and he said something along the lines of like,
he needs to throw an action pitch right here. And
I think when he said it, he knew full well
he was talking a little deep into baseball. So he
immediately says, Hey, when I say action pitch, I mean
(40:39):
you've got to make sure that the bat is on
the ball here somewhere around the zone. And sure enough,
that's exactly the pitch that happened. And I think it
was a Rojas home run now that I'm now that
I'm thinking about it here. But I just think Smoltz
is awesome. I think he's so good, provides the right
amount of insight, doesn't care about his ego. You know,
(41:00):
I'm watching Romo yesterday. I'm just like, oh, this is
just my numbing here, give me more John Smoltz.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah. I love John Smoltz, not only for all it
he provides insight wise, but to this day, he's on
my short list of guys I want starting a Game
seven in any contest, a World series. And to that point,
my goat, I'm going to expand it a little bit.
I'm just gonna make it game sevens We saw a
Game seven that didn't go our way, certainly in the
NBA Finals. This year, we've seen game sevens in hockey,
(41:29):
whether it's the conference finals. The finals only went six
games this year, but we saw game seven in the
World Series. There is and we all know this, it's
stating the obvious, but I just want to underline it
and put it in bold mark. There is nothing in
sports like a Game seven that ends a season that's
lasted seven, seven and a half months. There's nothing like it.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Outstanding Saturday night lived up to all expectation, everything you
want in a game seven.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
It lived up to the hype.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
Yeah, we probably should individual go to We'll give James
Boyd's goat to Yamamoto. I mean, yeah, what he did
in coming back and throwing what thirty some pitches, whatever
he did, the velocity was incredible. I know we live
in a ninety five the night before, right, we live
in an era of load management, this and that, and
we debated seemingly nightly. Here what an effort from him?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Yeah, and I thought, if you look at the start
of the game too, I know, only a few innings,
a little what two and a third I think for
for shoheo tane mark, he gave everything he had through
the entire season. He just looked like a tired guy,
is what he looked. I don't blame him, and he
still was fairly effective. He kept him in the game,
but he was tired.
Speaker 6 (42:33):
Man.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
That guy was exhausted
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