December 1, 2025 • 46 mins
00:00 – 11:05 – Colts fall to Texans and their lead in the AFC South is now gone, Sauce Gardner injured, kicker woes
11:06 – 32:35 – Officiating and weird things in yesterday’s game: delay of game, pass interference, extra point
32:36 – 46:19 GOATs of the Week
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to the best of the Fan Morning show
on ninety three five and one oh seven five the
Fan They Seized a Fan Morning show with KB jab
and Jeff.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
The Colts are going forward fourth down in a yard
Tyler Warren drops the ball after going under center and
was gonna run a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Sneak and the ball was kicked away.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Sauce just limped from the Colts tunnel out to the
sideline wearing a boot pretty significantly limping.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
First in ten Texas at the eleven yard line of
their own territory. Back in to throw his stroud. He's
got time. He's gonna watch down field picked off by
the Colts. Plans can't find about the forty two yard line.
It takes a step, looks left, fires down the left
sideline into the end zone and it is Hey Cats
for Olt pairs touchdown.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Who covers nineteen yards? Nick Chubb.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Chubb looking probing outside the numbers left, trying a bull
was into the end zone and he does. He gets
in from four yards out back in the throwers Jones.
He looks left, steps up in the pocket, is going
to take a shot down the left sideline and it
is it's a catch that great snack by Josh Downs
Daniel Jones ho lie touchdown for the cuts time on Touchdownd.
(01:23):
Why running back left is Marx. They fake it to him.
Now here's an in and round to Nico Collins outside
of the numbers left at the ten cuts of the five,
he's in touchdown. Nico Collins with his first career rushing touchdown.
And that's a drive that should have ended in a
field goal.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
For the text of US Houston, we have a problem
when you.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Have opportunities to win it, you know what I mean,
you lose. You lose these tight games. Sometimes you win
the tight games, but when you lose tight games, it's
frustrating because you're like, shoot, we could have that, we
could have this, could add that. You look back, it's
three or four plays when you lose the tight ones,
and so we got to find a way to get
those three or four plays when it is a tight
game like that.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
For me, it's it's you know, putting your head down
and go back to work and making sure that I'm
doing everything I need to do to put the team
in a positional wing games.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, think every week to urgency, whether your whatever your
record is, but especially in division games, you got to
have a ton of urgency in division games. And so
now we're sending it toun and one on the division
with another the division opponent on the road. You know
that we got to get ready for.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Not a victory. Monday, Good morning everyone, and welcome into
the Fan Morning Show along with Mark Dykan News run
on everything. Nice job as always on the intro to
the show, there got James boyd am I right, Kevin
Bowing on the left. Where do we even want to
start with this football game? A twenty to sixteen loss
for the Colts on Sunday at home against the Texans.
We had missed kicks, we had injury concerns, we had
(02:52):
officiating blenders. We had an inability to make a big
play at clutch time when the plays were there to
be made. Kevin, I'll start with you. Where do you
start at the top of this pyramid? Where do you
start with the twenty to sixteen loss.
Speaker 7 (03:06):
Hope you guys had a great Thanksgiving and all of
our listeners as well, and that the travels weren't to
too severe. Mark Dyiton shout out the lone Houston Texan
pick from last week mark sad to be correct, but yes,
one for ten right for the old station. I believe
if you got up everybody's pick, so I'll.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Carry the station on my back.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
I thought Max had it nailed with the dinosaur pick.
I thought it was.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
There shows the wrong dinosaur this past week. But yeah,
I mean you just you listed. I thought very accurately, accurately,
and if you don't want to look, maybe a little
unit based. It was good on good, and they're good
was better than your good. Their defense is better than
your offense. And what I think was a little surprising
for me is I didn't feel like their defensive ends
necessarily won the game. Obviously Will Anderson junior mates and
(03:53):
plays certainly Channel Bordolini has won that he would like
to forget. But I thought for Houston to come into
your building and win, one of those two would have
to have a seven point four point sort of changing.
Speaker 8 (04:02):
Play, and they didn't have that.
Speaker 7 (04:04):
So in one of the biggest games of the change
second era, and this team loses at home, and there
are some massive consequences for it, and now your grip
on the AFC South is gone.
Speaker 9 (04:14):
James Boyd no longer in first place in the AFC South,
and if you think about it, a month ago after
the game in Berlin, they were number one in the AFC,
so a lot has changed. One win, I believe, in
the month of November, So that is some tough sledding there.
And then from a big picture standpoint, we saw Sauce
(04:34):
Gardener go down with a non contact injury. They're labeling
it as a left calf, but we'll get into it
throughout the show. It sounds like that is a good sign.
I would assume that when they test the achilles, which
everyone around here is like the calf achilles, that you
can tell pretty quickly if that is the nature of
(04:54):
the injury. However, he'll go undergo further testing, I believe,
he said last night slash early today, So we will
see where that is, what comes of that. But at
the very minimum, I would expect him to miss at
least multiple weeks, considering that calf strains usually put you
down for a while, and we saw that what happened
earlier this year. Actually with Kenny Moore, that was like
the best case scenario. He missed three games and came back.
(05:17):
But yeah, tough scene for Sauce, and he also had
some unique comments after the game. I'll say that in
like a trolling way. He really did. I asked him,
struck straight out, did they tell you it's not in Achilles' injury?
And he'd started talking about God, and I was like, oh,
this is not good. I didn't want to go to
church on Sunday after the game. You know, usually before
calf strains in Indies. I know you, but surely you jest, sir.
(05:39):
I know what the crazy part is. I honestly felt
like Daniel Jones with his reportedly fractured fibula, was not
the problem yesterday.
Speaker 8 (05:47):
No.
Speaker 9 (05:48):
I thought it was a lot of other things around him.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
It would have been nice if it had been healthy
for a potential quarterback sneak late in the game where
Tyler Warren took a direct snap and fumbled it immediately
and that was that.
Speaker 9 (05:58):
Yeah, definitely, But again I thought that he was relatively
fine considering how stout Houston's defense is. It's just so
much more other things we can point to and say
this is where this team is lacking. So we'll get
into it throughout the show, for sure, but this team
is really lost through to the last four and at
this point I'm like, you guys, gotta make some things happen.
Otherwise your grip on making the playoffs come to the question.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
It was Jarrings seeing like the playoff picture images and
the cults where a wild card team, like, what the
hell happened? It's been just a few weeks and they
are all of a sudden like a fifth seed or something.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Well, you get Texans once again, you got two against Jacksonville,
you got San Francisco and Seattle interwoven amongst those games.
Doesn't get any easier, Kevin, Like, you're gonna have to
show up and earn your way in now.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
No, it's a harder schedule in the NFL over the
final five weeks. So yeah, it's it's gonna set up
one of the more critical months this franchise has had
in a while, short term, long term how you want
to look at it. Obviously, the injury to Sauce Gardner
and his absence, you know, to Forrest Buckner is going
to be out another week. I think, you know, kicker
tryouts need to be happening by lunchtime here.
Speaker 8 (07:06):
But that's just me.
Speaker 7 (07:06):
No one wants to hear me gripe about kickers clearly,
you guys didn't want me to gripe about.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Kick I think today is the day to gripe about
kickers you're doing JMB. I was sitting next to JMB
and Jake Query yesterday in the press box, and I
don't know what came over me. It just happened. It
was organic. When he doinked that extra point. You might
have heard me up above in that next level, I
had an audible like it was almost like the ball
(07:32):
hit me. And JMB looked at me, like, what is
wrong with you? And I've just been around long enough
to know that in that type of game against that
defense and what was going on. I know you guys
felt the two right then and there. You thought this
could come back to haunt them, didn't. It didn't.
Speaker 9 (07:49):
I had a line in my story that I run
after the game, you guys, and I'm not some genius here.
I said, if you make the extra point in the
second quarter, you're not in touchdown or else mode in
the fourth quarter, because that is also an implication of
what happened. They had to go for it on fourth
down because they're down four and they couldn't just tie
the game. So unfortunate situation a lot more we can
(08:09):
get into Josh downs. I thought did not have enough
of the Josh downs types of plays that were used
to He did have a great play they're in the
third quarter, but a terrible drop in the fourth quarter.
And I think generally over the last few weeks he
hasn't really been all that of a catalyst, a positive
catalyst for this team. So yeah, a lot of questions.
I mean, Shane's not absolved of anything either. So this
(08:32):
is where you see what you're made of. And right now,
for all of the talk we've had about the Colts
and you know, them telling other teams, showing other teams
that they're different, that they're not fraudulent, they look fake
right now. So that is my biggest takeaway from that
game was, Oh, you look very fake right now. You
were seven to one, you're now what eight and four,
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and the last couple of teams that you had, good teams,
you had opportunities to win, and you folded twice.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
They're gonna have to try and find a way to
pull it up all together down the stretch. Good stuff though.
Over the weekend, the Class one A through six A
state football championships over at Lucas Oil. I had the
opportunity to call six A with Matt Surface as Brownsburg
completes an undefeated season and they are back to back
six A champions with an impressive performance. And I tell
you what I'd heard about the kid. I've read about him.
(09:20):
I saw a few highlights, but Brendan Sharp is the
real deal for Brownsburg. There's a reason. I was talking
to John Hart last week, their head coach, and he said, yeah,
there's about a dozen powerful power force schools that have
been sniffing around and talking to him about wanting to
come there. The junior had over one hundred and fifty
yards receiving in the first half and a ninety nine
(09:41):
yard kick return for a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
I got some vibes honestly watching that, thinking back to
about ten years ago and Terry McLaurin was doing it
on that very turf in the state finals there and
only a junior for Brendan Sharp as well.
Speaker 8 (09:54):
So yeah, it seemed like great games.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
I listened to four A Ron Collie Dwanger went went
out of the wire, a great, great game.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Fakefield goal was the difference.
Speaker 8 (10:01):
In that one and that one. Yeah, you had a
fakefield goal. That was a huge call.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
So shout out to South Putnam Andrea and Cascade Hendrix
County with two of them Dwanger and four A and
then Newpal with the big fourth quarter there in five A.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
And New Pal's like the honey Badger of high school
fooball teams. They'll play anybody, anywhere, any level. They'll just
keep going.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
Uh. Lucasola Statum will be the place to be coming
up Saturday, as it is going to be quite the
scene there and the Cream and Crimson infiltration to downtown
Indianapolis will.
Speaker 8 (10:29):
Be a live.
Speaker 9 (10:31):
This week for the Colts. I wanted to be downtown
so bad.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
Two o'clock over Gamers Field House, Indiana and Louisville, and
that is the undercard, which is pretty wild to say
that an Indiana basketball game involving Louisville is the undercard,
but that's the state of the football program as they
absolutely dismantle Perdue on the scoreboard. UH Friday night in
the Bucket game and it is one v two Saturday
night inside of Lucasola Stadium and potentially the Heisman Trophy
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for grabs as well.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
All Right, lots to talk about. We'll recap all in
a concise, quick fashion come up in a moment on
the checkdown. It's a Monday here at ninety three five
and one oh seven five of the fair.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
They seized a fan morning show with KB, JB and Jeff.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
For Texans today are zero for four on third and
ten or longer. This is third and fifteen the twenty
five yard line thur and field goal territory. Here Christian
Kirk potions outlive on the left side now CJ. Stroud
clapping for the snap. He takes a five step drop
over the metal, throws and his receiver fell and a
flag is on the mode at the fifteen yard line.
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Cambinda been coverage for the Colts, but slipping on the turf.
I believe that was Xavier Hutchinson pass interference. C J.
Stroud fist bumping in celebration, and that is a horrible call.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
We're looking at the replay.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Hutchinson literally just slips on the turf and he was
hardly touched and in fact.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
He wasn't touched all touched at all.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Listen.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
I'm not an official guy.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I don't go after officials, but that's the worst call
I've seen all y'all.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
No, the Colts great good.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
The Colts get a horrible break right there. The anger
level in Indianapolis is at an all time high here
inside Lucas Oil Stadium.
Speaker 10 (12:26):
I mean, this is for all the marbles, guys, jeezus,
Coach Van Terry, I am not going to disagree one
single bit with that, but there were lots of fingers
to be pointed yesterday after watching the Colts drop one
of the Texans at home twenty to sixteen.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
You had the doint extra point early in the game
that set the tone for what you thought might be
a problem later on as it was then, aside from
that horrendous non interference call that Kennymore didn't even touch
the receiver. I've looked probably eight ten times at the
extra point that Kay Fairbairn got credit for in the
final touchdown that the Texan scored, and I'm sorry that
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thing was not good. I don't know what those two
guys underneath the uprights are looking at. I looked at
it from two different angles that they had. You have
to have the ball clearly inside both of those uprights
at the very least it was touching on the outside
of that thing. I don't know what those guys were
looking at.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
That was epic audio from Rick Ventura there marked acton great.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
They have some gems that I'll play later in the show.
They were in their bag yesterday.
Speaker 8 (13:34):
It's so funny.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
I always chat with Coach Ventury on the walk to
the elevator after the game, and gosh, he's able to
get so much more subdued postgame than obviously was he
in the moment.
Speaker 8 (13:45):
The bigger issue I had on that play was a
delay a game. To me, I have.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
I don't get why delay a game A is not
reviewable and B why don't we treat it like the
shot clock in basketball? Why don't we simply just have
a red light that lights up on the play clock
and the umpire of the ref spots it and boom,
good take it is a flag too easy? Like that's
(14:13):
black and white, Kenny Moore, whatever.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
And then it is reviewable at that point, right.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
Kenny Moore? It was a bad call, but that's a
judgment call. Fair Baron's extra point. Do I think he
missed it?
Speaker 8 (14:24):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (14:25):
Is it a judgment call? Yes, Delay a game isn't
a judgment call. It's obvious either the clock is at
zero and the ball has been snapped or it's not,
so A I think it should be reviewed.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
And B.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
I don't get why there's this like unwritten rule of
no the the umpire looks at the play clock and
then he looks back up and if the ball is
yet to be snapped, then the play is allowed to
be happening. Because we see plays snapped. I would argue
probably three to five times a game with zero on
the play clock. It makes no sense to me why
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this has become some unwritten in rule. So that occurred
on that very play right there. Again, the past interference
was an awful call. And yes, I think the extra
point it probably was messed. Do we need to raise
the goalpost to the roof?
Speaker 9 (15:14):
I don't know, but I feel like at one point
in that game didn't they use like the I believe
it was the Colt's fourth downstop that they got Hawkeye. Yeah,
they were like, you know, the chip and the ball,
we use some advanced data and they didn't advance it
past this mark. And so shout out to Nathan Brown.
Actually go check out his work at Indie Star as
well New Colts Reporter. He was talking about after the
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game how they should have like lasers or something that
just go straight up so you know exactly if the
ball cleared or not. That would make too much sense
as well. But that one, to me doesn't bother me
as much. Yeah, I think the delay of game one
is the one where I'm like, the answer to it. Oh,
(15:56):
don't get me wrong, they definitely bothered me, but I'm like,
if you're picking one that's stupider than the other, I
feel like to one where the clock literally runs out
of the simplest of the two.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
To decipher, that's black and white.
Speaker 9 (16:05):
Looking at the explanation from Clay Martin, the official shout
Joel a Erics and Vandy Starr, he's a poor reporter
if it I was listening. A poor reporter is the
person who goes and talks to the officials about controversial
calls after a game, and Clay Martin, the lead official, said,
the back judge is the calling official, and there is
a process on that when the clock hits zero, he
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looks down to the ball, and if the ball is
snapped as he looks down from the clock to the ball,
we leave that alone. That's what he ruled on the play.
So to get some context here. When you ask these
officials in these NFL settings about missed calls, they never
say they missed it. They just say, oh, I felt
like this, I follow it, which I feel like is pointless. Then, like,
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why do we have you sit up there and say
anything if all you're going to say is well, I
felt like this was right. Well I felt like I
should Mary Rihanna, it didn't happen. So in my mind,
I just think that that's kind of dumb and gaslights
you into like thinking you didn't see what you just
saw with your own eyes. That's my only take on it.
Like why even interview them if they can't tell you
I messed up. At least the NBA has the last
two minute report.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Yeah, which is pointless though screw.
Speaker 9 (17:13):
Like dang, they at least say they were wrong. The
NFL just kind of smug. It's like, well, you know what,
we were not wrong. Your interpretation of what we interpreted
was wrong.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
What.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
I'm glad you explained what the pool report was because
I'm sure there's an audience out there that doesn't quite
know what it is.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
I think it's the stupidest thing.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
And I mean Joel walked down to us and was
asking us, Hey, what questions should I ask the official?
I wanted to say to Joel Joels to waste your time. Yeah,
like you're going to get at least if you really
want to compare injury or pool reports two minutal reports.
At least the NBA will admit they're wrong, That's what
I'm saying. The NFL is not going to admit that
they're wrong, and the immediate aftermath. It's not like Clay
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Martin is in a locker room with Joel a Ericson
and they're going over and watching the film together and
he's explaining, oh, yeah, you know now that I see it,
Like did Kenny Moore? I forget his exact phrase, James,
He said that he grabbed the receiver at the top
of the route. Yeah, I believe was kind of the
exact phrase, arm grabs.
Speaker 9 (18:07):
What the official said, you know, And if you look
back at the play, he did grab his arm slightly.
But man, in an NFL game.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
I think I did more touching at my first school
dance thymore did on Xavier Hutchinson on that play there. Yeah,
just again, to me, the delay game is a bigger issue,
and I thought the pass interference penalty on Alex Pearis
was a bad call. I mean, Daniel Jones almost hit
the cheerleaders with that ball. Is there an uncatchable element
(18:35):
to Again, these are where the judgment calls get into
gray area. For me, what's black and white? The clock
red zero? That is a delay of game. It should
be reviewed and we should have a nice little red
light right around the play clock on each side of
the field. And when it goes off, it's abundantly clear
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it's a five yard penalty and no more this unwritten
rule of well, if it's a zero in my head,
didn't look up in time and you snap the ball, whila,
you can have forty one seconds in play.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Well, there are other things to talk about as well,
And I thought that this was interesting from Richard, and
I'm not gonna lie. This discussion happened with two different
media people up in the press box throughout the course
of the game, and I think it's been there sometimes
and maybe it's overstated or not.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
You guys tell me you're around the team a little
bit more. But I kind of agree with Richard here,
who texted in at two three nine ten seventy and
says I feel like Shane draws up plays like he
is the smartest man in the room. He very well
might be. But the play where you have Tyler Warren
take the snap with DJ in the backfield, why not
just line up and say our O line is going
to beat you instead of a bit of a trick
(19:47):
play that ends up disastrous. I feel like this has
happened more often than not.
Speaker 9 (19:53):
That play is certainly one I wish they could have back.
I'll tell you this, and this isn't some genius analysis.
They're not going to QBS sneak with the guy with
a broken leg, so that's not happening. I think they've
really missed that element. Actually fine with their game. But yeah,
to the point of what Richard is saying, yeah, how
about you just handed twenty eight and go out there
and whoop somebody. But I don't know, man, I look,
(20:18):
I'm not necessarily like gonna look at I don't know
if Shane was a problem yesterday. I thought Shane was
awful in Kansas City, But yesterday I felt like the
playmakers had to make more plays. Are we having the
same conversation if, for example, Josh Downs doesn't drop that
ball on third down in the fourth quarter. Like, I
don't know if they're like it's specials make some of.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
The calls that we've been talking about those things.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Again, we are in the camp of we want to
I think blame Shane stykeing for everything. James, I thought
you said it very well the Kansas City game with
an I guess an injured quarterback. You throw the ball
eight straight times in abandon Jonathan Taylor, Like that to
me is much more of an issue than can we
not just say the ball probably should have been snapped
and Tyler Warren probably should have secured it. Like did
(21:01):
Houston not run tight end QB sneaks yesterday?
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Did? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (21:05):
Did the Baltimore Ravens not gonna say?
Speaker 9 (21:07):
Houston literally had a wide receiver score his first rushing
touchdown of his career.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
Like Baltimore does the Mark Andrews thing a lot. They
don't do so Lamar Jackson, so Derrick Henry. Like, to me,
there is an element of sometimes the dudes just need
to execute the play. Daniel Jones is hurt, He's not
going to QB sneak it what happened last week on
third and one. Jonathan Taylor got blown up like it's
not to me. The QB sneak in third and short,
(21:31):
fourth and short is exactly the play called team should do.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
So let me ask you a question on that, because
you bring up a good point. Who's probably your biggest,
strongest skilled position player on that team.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
Right now, probably Tyler Warren.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Why not just have him take a direct snap and
do it our version of the Twish push and go.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
Well, that's what they tried to do, and he fumbled.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
It, right, but I'm talking about under center he did, okay.
Speaker 8 (21:54):
And he fumbled it. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
That's exactly what the play was. The play was supposed
to be a QB sneak with Tyler Warren. I don't
you know, Shane's getting too cute. I mean, okay, Daniel's
got a broken leg. QB sneak had worked what every
time with Danie Jones this season. I'm trying to think, James,
I can't recall it. Maybe gottop once. It's like nine
of ten. Yeah, whatever the percentages is, it's at a
(22:16):
very high level. So what's the next best thing? In
my opinion, it is Tyler Warren and following you know,
Quentin Nelson and following you know, that offensive line. That
was just a bad execution play by the players itself there.
So I'm not in this. You know, we have to
blame Shane for every single thing. Did the Colts not
(22:38):
come to play in their biggest home game of the
season and one of the biggest games in the Shane
second era. Yeah, that's very fair to say. But in
that individual play, I got no issue with it.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
The other thing that I did want to talk about too,
because I do think you mentioned this in your story,
and this is a positive, is Alex Pierce developing into
the clear note number one wide receiver on this football team.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
There's no development. He is, period. Alec Pierce is the
best wide receiver the Colts have. He is the most
threatening wide receiver the Colts have, and I would argue
he's the most reliable around the whole route tree, which
that's where the developing part probably comes into play, Jeff.
But right now, I mean, you know, when you look
back on that final drive, Taylor, what gets stopped for
(23:24):
you know, one or two yards on first down, second down,
they take the shot to Pierce, and then third down
downs drops at fourth down, the ball goes off You know.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
Pittman's outstretched hands right now.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
This offense, if it's not going to Jonathan Taylor, it
needs to be target Alek Pierce at all costs. You know,
good things happen when you target him down the field.
I think DB's panic, but I also think Alec Pierce
is rounding out that route tree in the growth that
you want to see. So to me, he is the
number one wide out on this football team. It's going
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to be a massive payday for him. All of those things.
I thought he was a very small basket and it
was Alec. That dude thrives. He's probably the most unclouster
felloedic human I've ever seen. I feel like Alan peers
in those small little areas. He just so cool, calm
and collected. Makes that catch seemingly every single time.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
And I will say this too on that bum leg
that throw. A couple of throws that Daniel Jones made yesterday, James,
and especially that one to Pierce the touchdown, those were
sweet rows.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
Had a couple of the downs too.
Speaker 9 (24:30):
Man, Absolutely, I thought that he's he looked fine. And
this goes back to even the Thanksgiving Day practice where
video comes out and I'm looking at him, he's limping around.
He's fine on like stationary throws, it's the movement throws
and obviously the scramble. We didn' see him scramble not
once yesterday, I believe, which is probably a good thing.
Although we did see a Texans defensive tackle dive right
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into his leg from the past the penalty. But I
was like, that couldn't have felt great. But he was fine.
I didn't think that Daniel Jones was the problem yesterday
at all, whatsoever. He gave you a chance to win
that game, which is all you can ask for from him.
Is he no longer playing at an MVP level like
he was the first month of the season. Sure, but
as I mean, he's been playing awful to me. But
I do think we're starting to see teams kind of
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figure the Colts out. I want to say, not say
I know this for a fact. Actually through the first
eight games when they were seven to one, they were
averaging thirty three point eight points per game, And over
the last four games, I want to say, they're just
under twenty two points a game. So that is a stark.
That's like eleven point difference right there. That's a big,
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big difference in your production and the way you're being
able to dominate teams over the last month of the season.
And it will not get much easier from an opponent
standpoint because of you know that, I get that feisty
Jaguars team. You haven't beat them in forever down in
Duval County, and you also have Seattle and the forty
nine ers awaiting. So yeah, it's it's now or never
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if you're going to kind of prove that you're not
the same old Colts and you're not gonna blow this away.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Jacksonville, what we got to talk about them for a minute.
I know they're coming up and we'll talk about them
all week long. But when you take a look around
the AFC South, Jacksonville's now eight and four, and as
you mentioned right now have the tiebreaker over the Indianapolis Colts.
They dominated on the road. And I know Tennessee is
not a great football team, but Jacksonville starting to feel
themselves a little bit. They're winning some football games these days.
Speaker 9 (26:22):
Tough team and if you're looking for like Marquis victory,
they have a few of them this season. Kevin and
this could be another one for him.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
Yeah, Kanna City, San Francisco, right, Ye beat the Chargers
by a lot, so yeah, I mean it's it's going
to be a huge, huge one. Sound like a broken record.
I always said it last week, these two games coming
into Sunday. If you beat Houston and Jacksonville in these
consecutive weeks, I believe your AFC South odds increased to
north of ninety percent. Obviously you lost yesterday, so that
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can't happen if you split. So if you're gonna if
you beat Jacksonville on on Sunday, your AFC South odds
about a coin flip.
Speaker 8 (26:59):
If you lose, those odds would drop south of twenty percent.
So it just.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
I don't think it's that hyperbolic to continue to stress
the massive, massive importance. Not just I would argue for
this season. I mean, there are some ramifications that if
you bottom out here in December, what about the future,
What about the future at the pillars of this organization,
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I might those questions can't be ignored, right.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
I might point to next week in and of itself.
Obviously you're playing Jacksonville, and now if you lose to
Jacksonville on the road, you're a game behind them. And
they've got a head to head over you, even though
you got won the play left. And if Houston wins
their game next.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
Week, I got Kansas City Sunday night.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Yeah, they play Kansas City someday, they win that football game,
you might be looking at third place all of a
sudden in the AFC South.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
Correct, I mean you are you would I believe if
those scenarios play out, Jeff, I believe you'd be out
of the playoffs. I think right now the Colts of
the sixth seed, mark, will you double check that they
are the sixth seed?
Speaker 8 (28:08):
Sixth seed?
Speaker 7 (28:09):
And one thing to note about the playoff picture right
now eight nine, ten, which are the three teams obviously
just outside seven teams make the playoffs from each conference
eight nine and ten, they all have beaten you. That's
in some order, I forget the order. But it's like Houston, Pittsburgh,
Kansas City. So if you get into the tiebreaker situations
with them right now, the Houston one, you could split
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it if you beat them in the final game of
the season, if that matters.
Speaker 8 (28:34):
Right now, they aren't in your favor.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
Well, as far as a couple of those teams are concerned,
Pittsburgh yesterday. You got the crowd chanting fire Mike Tomlin
in the fourth quarter of another Steelers loss. Who knows
what the health issue for Aaron Rodgers is going to
be moving forward.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
I say a great meme that he looked like he
had just he was one of the robbers and home alone.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yeah, I saw that. You try to mess with Kevin
was excellent.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Had Blome he knows and they're the.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Big surprise. He's blaming his wide receivers again.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
But here's the other thing though. If Houston does win
Sunday night, that's bad in one sense for the Colts,
but it does probably eliminate the Chiefs at that point.
Don't Jay Man, At.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
This point you any boat to be cheering for that?
Speaker 7 (29:20):
Man there were You are in an AFC South boat
in that blank period. You can't be worried about the Chiefs. Mark,
shout out to your Bears.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Just win.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Yeah, that was impressive on Friday, very impressive. They are
now sports arousal as jam V says.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
Yeah, one seed in the NFC with the Rams losing
in the cross country game. Yes, Jay, the Carolina Panthers.
I must say, I was looking across your way to
see if those standings were up on your computer. Were
you checking the bio of Carson Wentz.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
I'm doing some research, Kevin. We got Goats of the
Week coming up. Might have some research coming up.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
What the hell has Carson Wentz done in the last
seven days. It's called the teas. You just gotta have
to sit back, relax and wait. All right, Tom was
stop cheating off your test?
Speaker 8 (30:00):
Michael professor here Mike Wells looking at him or something.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Well, hey, Michael's probably filled himself a little bit after
the way Brownsburg marched to a six A championship.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
I saw Mike yesterday uh pregame at the uh at
the press box, and he was holding court with a
bunch of the Indiana University students that he teaches and
mentors down there and then it man, he was. They
were hanging on every word that he had to say.
Speaker 8 (30:25):
Carson has a nice touch on his bass.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yes he does.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
I don't believe that was the conversation he was having.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
Oh that was not it was. It was a legitimate conversation,
but it was. It was fun to see him in
his element. Man looking hot in the back of the
studio right now, Is.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
That one how did he catch all these strays?
Speaker 7 (30:44):
All of a sudden, It's Saturday night inside of Lucasoil Stadium.
The hottest football ticket we've ever had for a game
in there?
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Would you say four hundred dollars for the cheap seats?
Right now?
Speaker 8 (30:54):
What do you think.
Speaker 9 (30:57):
Is this with the context of the previous Colts home
playoff games were like played at the former place?
Speaker 7 (31:03):
Well, no, I mean you obviously have had Colts playoff
games in there. You know, AFC Championship wuld probably be
in a level right, but in the let's say, maybe
the last ten issues.
Speaker 9 (31:12):
That's all like, all right, AFC Championship game is kind
of kind of be ten twelve years.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
But like, if you look at secondary ticket market, harder
ticket to get, the Johns had a national title game
there Alabama Georgia a few years ago. Yeah, I mean,
this is really it's not I don't think it's at
Taylor Swift levels.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
That's why it's going to bring up. But for sports,
this has got to be.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
It, right, I'm hard pressed to recall something else. I mean,
I I Royal rumble tickets. It honestly just kind of
popped in my head. I really haven't given a much thought,
so I could be dead wrong on it, but I
mean the cheapest ticket being four hundred dollars on a Monday.
Speaker 9 (31:46):
I always forget the natties on a Monday.
Speaker 8 (31:49):
Well, no, no, no, no, today, you mean today? Today? I
mean we're six days out with the little boy that's
going to be.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
You can go to a Colts game in those tickets
that are four hundred dollars on Saturday night for what
mark like forty bucks.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Probably doing some cross referencing now to see what we're
looking at here. Don't look at my screen, Kevin.
Speaker 9 (32:09):
Yeah, you gotta get a couple like you gotta get
the folders. Remember the folders you'd have. Oh yeah, at
the folders and make sure your test all right?
Speaker 5 (32:15):
There you go? All right? Coming up in a month,
we'll talk more about the Colts. Will take some of
your phone calls. Get the Pulse of Cults Nation today
at two three nine ten seventy. You will also check
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do and it's straight ahead of them. We'll tell you
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oh seven five the Fan.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
They see Star Fan Morning Show with Chbi shab and Jeff.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
It's a five yard penaly from the spot of the foul.
It is a loss of down, second down.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, a line of scrimmages.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
But nine he threw that from about the eleven yard line.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, they're headed bap to Shapiro's.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Right, Powther, We're almost in my garage on the south side.
Speaker 8 (33:00):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Let's see if CJ's droud could it figure out how
to work that gggerator on.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
The south shot.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Great stuff for Matt Taylor and coach Venturi all throughout
the broadcast, both in having humorous moments, ripping the officials
at the appropriate time, talking about things as they happened.
They did a fantastic job. Hope you had a good
time listening to their broadcast. If that's how you enjoyed
the game yesterday or I don't know, if you enjoyed
the game or not. The way it all turned out,
you probably enjoyed it to the last four minutes of
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the game, I would think.
Speaker 9 (33:32):
I don't know, Jeff, it was rough early as well,
when they came out with three straight pass plays and
went three and out. I was thinking, boy, whom I
get some booze here?
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Nobody was calling for anybody's head though, like they were
in Pittsburgh last night. Were you surprised to see the
Steelers fans now chanting fire Tomlin?
Speaker 7 (33:50):
No, not at all, not at all. I think they
were teetering on that until TJ.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Watt.
Speaker 7 (33:54):
Honestly, so much of this cold season not to boil it.
Number one play that TJ. Watt strip sack beating Braden
Smith into Daniel Jones. That was a potentially season changing play.
It seems like ever since then it's been a bit
of a snowball down the hill for the Colts.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
That one's not our problem, but it was worth noting.
Time to get to the best and worst of the week,
Mark Dyke, and let's get to it. Who is the goat?
Speaker 8 (34:19):
I'd told you all that I was the greatest of all.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Time, Georgy.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Here's Michael at the filine.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
I shot on e.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Or goat. This guy sucks of the week.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
Oh, lots of places to start, lots of places to
shine a light on good and bad. Do you want
to go to the good or the bad? To start
things off, Mark, Colts.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Lost, we go bad, and it's been a long time.
We've been off since after Wednesday, so there's plenty to
dive in.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
All right, I'll start this off this week. The easy
thing is to go to the NFL officials that worked
out Colts Texans game yesterday. They made so many mistakes
that cost the Cults big time in addition to some
of the Colts mistakes of their own. But I'm not
going to go there. I'm gonna go to the big
bad Bill Belichick, who finishes his first regular season in
the college ranks with a four and eight record at
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North Carolina, losing big time to the rival North Carolina
State wolf Pack yesterday Saturday. They couldn't get anything going.
They're just not a very good football team. There was
also audio released the last week of one of the
wives of the sons of Bill Belichick just openly ripping
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Jordan Hudson and what she's doing to Bill Belichick. It's
a disasters in Chapel Hill, and I can't as a
Colts fan, doesn't hurt my feelings at all that it's
Bill Belichick.
Speaker 9 (35:52):
I feel like Jeff just gave me a rundown of TMZ,
slash the shade rooms, all the where people in my
life get there.
Speaker 8 (35:59):
More Wives episode.
Speaker 9 (36:01):
Yeah, a lot of drama there, certainly a good pick
of the bag go to the week. I will go
with Clay Martin, the lead official for the coach game yesterday,
for this poor report, and I hate it. I hate
all these poor reports. Think they all stink. Basically every
question that he was asked it was, well, we thought
we were right, so we were right. It's a horrible answer.
It's a horrible thing for Leeds even give us. So
I would just like a last two minute report kind
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of like you see in the NBA. Doesn't help anything, no,
but at least you can say you're wrong, this is stupid.
This you stand here and let them lie to your face.
And also a little insight there for those listening. The
poor report, I'll have you know, is not necessarily you
just stand there and report what they say. It's not
like a press conference with Shane Styken. You get on
the phone, you do the thing, and then they answer
the questions and then they you can't say anything until
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they give you permission or or send you a copy
of what they said. When they clean it all up,
so you can't even ask them a question in the
moment to get a real reaction. They get a chance
to go back and say, well, I kind of said this,
let's doctor it up a bit. I hate that.
Speaker 8 (36:56):
I hate Yeah, it is very stupid.
Speaker 7 (36:58):
I love the drama surrounding this next one, but that
doesn't mean he's not the negative goat of the weekend.
Lane kiffen believing that he should coach Old Miss in
the college football playoff. This man quit on his team
hosting a home playoff game, and he's whinding that he
can't coach them in the playoffs when he takes a
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job with a school that's in their same conference. Your
decisions have consequences, especially in the portal era, especially when
you're taking assistant coaches with you. Lane Kiffin, college Football.
I love the drama. It's the scene from the airport yesterday,
the kid calling him the kicker's name for the Atlanta Falcons,
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young Hoku. I laugh, my, you know what off at
that college sports are not real in the SEC. Lane
Kivin's an idiot for thinking he should be able to
coach All Miss in the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (37:53):
Hey, real quick, I will say though the reporter that
called him, oh, I definitely think that like you used
to be had to play hands on any.
Speaker 8 (38:00):
Hoe Markers as hoe allowed to be said, right, we're.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
Letting it fly.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Who's doing work? Oh, I'm so sorry now, kicker.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
That reporter also disputes that he used the word hoh.
He made the very the description was there, but he
disputes the word.
Speaker 9 (38:16):
No, anybody to call you that. As a man, you
should be able to put hands on him, and he
had the energy at all. I was kind of hoping
I se him laying on that one. Like I agree
with over everything you said, Kevin, but on that particular thing.
If you call a man that keep that saying, manage
you don't. We don't run on Twitter and tell us
what you would ever could have done? All right, sorry,
dumped that?
Speaker 5 (38:32):
What do you got Mark?
Speaker 3 (38:33):
The Minnesota Vikings are a team without a quarterback on
their roster. JJ McCarthy's been bad and injured, Carson wentz
on ir Max Rosmer was horrific, Yessdraight, and the only
one left standing is John Wolford. They are a mess,
and it's only worse by the fact that the guy
who they let walk in free agency, went to Seattle
and helped beat them yesterday in a shutout. Sam Darnold
donald hasn't exactly lit it up. He's had twenty nine
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and thirteen yards, nineteen touchdowns and ten interceptions. But the
Vikings all four Vikings qbs have a combined for t
three hundred and thirteen yards on the season, twelve touchdowns,
nineteen interceptions. Kevin asked why I was looking up Carson Wentz.
That is why the combination of Vikings quarterbacks don't have
what Sam Darnold has statistically.
Speaker 8 (39:15):
We got to quick here.
Speaker 7 (39:16):
Joe Burrow shout out goat of the week, Love the
pregame interview on Thursday Night Football, explaining why he wanted
to play with the Bengals still a million games.
Speaker 8 (39:24):
Out of the playoff picture.
Speaker 7 (39:26):
I get a million dollar athlete, et cetera, et cetera,
in an air of load management. I know a lot
of people are quick to point the others for Joe
Burrow to got it out and play extraordinarily well on
Thursday Night Football. Love seeing that from him, So shout
out to Joe Burrow.
Speaker 9 (39:39):
Shot out Chris Skinner from Andriana High School. He has
been a part of all four state championships before that team,
one as a player, one is an assistant, and two
times as the head coach. Shout out to my guy,
coach Skinner.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
I'm going to stay in the high schools as well.
Brandon Sharp two hundred and fifty all purpose first half
yards against Westfield for Brownsburg as they complete a back
to back state championship run, all of that coming in
the first half, one hundred and fifty one yards and
a touchdown receiving and a ninety nine yard kickoff return.
I also want to give a nod to Kyle Rauth,
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the head coach at New Palestine. They won last year
in four They went up a division to five A
and they won that one too. It's pretty impressive stuff.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
A year ago, the Bears fired Matt Eberflus. Fast forward
to now, Ben Johnson has the Boys at nine and three,
the best record in the NFC. He took a shirt
off in the locker room so that Chicago gets free
hot talks tomorrow. Shout out Ben Johnson.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
That's the key right there. I'll get your shirt off
for free hot dogs. You like that, don't you, Kevin?
Speaker 7 (40:37):
If Ebraflues would have done that, he'd still be the coach.
Speaker 5 (40:40):
All right. That's what's happening for the Goats of the week.
Here at ninety three five one oh seven five the Fan,
we'll talk a little bit more about a big college
football game coming up this weekend in Indianapolis. That's next.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Please see Star Fan Morning Show with KB JB and Jeff.
You know, you go back to work.
Speaker 6 (40:57):
I think, you know, putting your head down and focusing
on what we need to do to improve. I think
everybody taking accountability and ownership of of what we need
to do, and certainly I played a big role in now.
So for me, it's it's, you know, putting your head
down and go back to work and making sure that
I'm doing everything I need to do to put the
team in a position to win games.
Speaker 5 (41:19):
It's Daniel Jones, quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts. They've all
of a sudden, lost three of their last four Kevin Bowen,
and now they've got what is considered to be the
toughest schedule in the NFL over their final few weeks
of the season. It's gonna be tough, but it's also
an opportunity here you.
Speaker 7 (41:36):
Go, sure, I mean at the start of the year.
You would have said, hey, eight and four December first,
and you know, whatever tied atop the AFC South, yeah,
you would sign up for it. But living in the
reality of where you're at right now, it's a team
that is definitely really and you know, you look at
the next two weeks. I think that's why yesterday it
was so important. It was at home. You had been
a great home team all season long, first home loss
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of the year. You had scored what he goes at
least twenty nine I believe, in every home game this season.
And now you're at Jacksonville and at Seattle the.
Speaker 8 (42:06):
Next two weeks.
Speaker 7 (42:07):
So and you know, you close out that you're at Houston,
and you know it's not impossible by any means, but
you've lost your grip on the AFC South. You've lost
from playing ahead, and now it's really anyone's guest as
to who's going to win this division and if it
starts to continue to go down the path that it
is right now, I mean, you could miss the playoffs,
which is just kind of wild to.
Speaker 8 (42:27):
Think where you were at entering that Pittsburgh game.
Speaker 5 (42:31):
Now I speak of playoffs college football, the playoffs were
several weeks away, but we've got conference championship games all
over the country this weekend, including one couple of blocks
away at Lucas Oil Stadium, Indiana taking on Ohio State. Kevin,
you had mentioned earlier that right now Ohio State's a
five and a half point favorite. But if you go
to the ESPN dot com analytics page right now, their
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computer models give Indiana a fifty point six percent chance
of winning that football game, So by six tenths of
one percent, they're the favorite according to the analytics.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
So you're telling me there's a chance.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
Oh yeah, big chance. I like the way is playing
right now, speed, physicality. I can't wait to see him
go ahead.
Speaker 7 (43:12):
I mean, I do mean this in all seriousness. Indiana
will have more fans in that building. I think it
will be a Rockeus environment for the Cream and Crimson.
It's honestly a Saturday you dream of, I think as
a sports fan to have your basketball team playing at
Gambridge Field House at two o'clock and then you get
the nice two three hour break to do whatever you
would like, and then you head on over to Lucasolo
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Stadium for your team doing something they've never even never
even thought was realistically possible in terms of your football program.
And I also think Ohio State, I do think there
could be a real emotional hangover from the Michigan game,
everything that's invested into that game for their program. And
you know, Ryan Day's been pretty outspoken all year long
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about you know, it's a grind going on a playoff run,
and you know, well, at the end of the day,
the Big Ten championship only means so much to a
program like Ohio State. I mean, that's just reality. It
means a world of difference in Indiana than it does
to Ohio State. And if Carnel Taate or Jeremiah Smith
wo've had nicked up injuries, if they get a little
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banged up there, you know you're not going to push it, right,
I mean, you'd be ludicrous too.
Speaker 5 (44:20):
I am so happy for our friend Don Fisher. You
want to talk about kind of a bucketless day for
an announcer, a guy who's seen everything basketball football for
Indiana over the incredible career that he has had to
get the idea to get the chance to call a
Louisville Indiana game at the Fieldhouse in the afternoon, go
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a couple of blocks West later that night and do
a Big ten championship game with an undefeated Indiana team
taking on an undefeated Ohio State team. Like as a
as a broadcaster, that's a dream day, right there, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (44:55):
I love it for him.
Speaker 7 (44:56):
I know we played so many Fish highlights throughout the year,
and you know his conversations so with Jake or with
John are always must listen to each week. So just
an awesome Saturday fans. And one thing to point out
from the Bucket game on Friday night. You know when
Banana Mendoza is having a little bit of struggle early
in that game, I would argue one of the most
consistent aspects in Indiana all season long, and something I
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and probably I'll say we have not given enough credit
to their run game is elite Roman hemby ripping off
the big one on Friday night. I mean, they can
run the football and they had a huge injury early
in the year in that backfield there, so their ability
to run it I think has really helped, you know,
keep that offense as you know, potently balanced as they have.
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And again when you have a first quarter where I mean,
hell mean Thoza got away with a couple frankly throws there.
You're still able to, you know, play from ahead, and
you're able to rely on that ground game. So any
sort of win on Saturday night or playoff run, I
think we'll certainly have to lean on that run game,
all right.
Speaker 5 (45:58):
Coming up for a moment, back to the Colts. Will
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Speaker 7 (46:15):
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and Jeff.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
The Colts are going forward fourth down in a yard
Tyler Warren drops the ball after going under center and
was gonna run a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Sneak and the ball was kicked away.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Sauce just limped from the Colts tunnel out to the
sideline wearing a boot pretty significantly limping.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
First in ten Texas at the eleven yard line of
their own territory. Back in to throw his stroud. He's
got time. He's gonna watch down field picked off by
the Colts. Plans can't find about the forty two yard line.
It takes a step, looks left, fires down the left
sideline into the end zone and it is Hey Cats
for Olt pairs touchdown.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Who covers nineteen yards? Nick Chubb.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Chubb looking probing outside the numbers left, trying a bull
was into the end zone and he does. He gets
in from four yards out back in the throwers Jones.
He looks left, steps up in the pocket, is going
to take a shot down the left sideline and it
is it's a catch that great snack by Josh Downs
Daniel Jones ho lie touchdown for the cuts time on Touchdownd.
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Why running back left is Marx. They fake it to him.
Now here's an in and round to Nico Collins outside
of the numbers left at the ten cuts of the five,
he's in touchdown. Nico Collins with his first career rushing touchdown.
And that's a drive that should have ended in a
field goal.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
For the text of US Houston, we have a problem
when you.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Have opportunities to win it, you know what I mean,
you lose. You lose these tight games. Sometimes you win
the tight games, but when you lose tight games, it's
frustrating because you're like, shoot, we could have that, we
could have this, could add that. You look back, it's
three or four plays when you lose the tight ones,
and so we got to find a way to get
those three or four plays when it is a tight
game like that.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
For me, it's it's you know, putting your head down
and go back to work and making sure that I'm
doing everything I need to do to put the team
in a positional wing games.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, think every week to urgency, whether your whatever your
record is, but especially in division games, you got to
have a ton of urgency in division games. And so
now we're sending it toun and one on the division
with another the division opponent on the road. You know
that we got to get ready for.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Not a victory. Monday, Good morning everyone, and welcome into
the Fan Morning Show along with Mark Dykan News run
on everything. Nice job as always on the intro to
the show, there got James boyd am I right, Kevin
Bowing on the left. Where do we even want to
start with this football game? A twenty to sixteen loss
for the Colts on Sunday at home against the Texans.
We had missed kicks, we had injury concerns, we had
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officiating blenders. We had an inability to make a big
play at clutch time when the plays were there to
be made. Kevin, I'll start with you. Where do you
start at the top of this pyramid? Where do you
start with the twenty to sixteen loss.
Speaker 7 (03:06):
Hope you guys had a great Thanksgiving and all of
our listeners as well, and that the travels weren't to
too severe. Mark Dyiton shout out the lone Houston Texan
pick from last week mark sad to be correct, but yes,
one for ten right for the old station. I believe
if you got up everybody's pick, so I'll.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Carry the station on my back.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
I thought Max had it nailed with the dinosaur pick.
I thought it was.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
There shows the wrong dinosaur this past week. But yeah,
I mean you just you listed. I thought very accurately, accurately,
and if you don't want to look, maybe a little
unit based. It was good on good, and they're good
was better than your good. Their defense is better than
your offense. And what I think was a little surprising
for me is I didn't feel like their defensive ends
necessarily won the game. Obviously Will Anderson junior mates and
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plays certainly Channel Bordolini has won that he would like
to forget. But I thought for Houston to come into
your building and win, one of those two would have
to have a seven point four point sort of changing.
Speaker 8 (04:02):
Play, and they didn't have that.
Speaker 7 (04:04):
So in one of the biggest games of the change
second era, and this team loses at home, and there
are some massive consequences for it, and now your grip
on the AFC South is gone.
Speaker 9 (04:14):
James Boyd no longer in first place in the AFC South,
and if you think about it, a month ago after
the game in Berlin, they were number one in the AFC,
so a lot has changed. One win, I believe, in
the month of November, So that is some tough sledding there.
And then from a big picture standpoint, we saw Sauce
(04:34):
Gardener go down with a non contact injury. They're labeling
it as a left calf, but we'll get into it
throughout the show. It sounds like that is a good sign.
I would assume that when they test the achilles, which
everyone around here is like the calf achilles, that you
can tell pretty quickly if that is the nature of
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the injury. However, he'll go undergo further testing, I believe,
he said last night slash early today, So we will
see where that is, what comes of that. But at
the very minimum, I would expect him to miss at
least multiple weeks, considering that calf strains usually put you
down for a while, and we saw that what happened
earlier this year. Actually with Kenny Moore, that was like
the best case scenario. He missed three games and came back.
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But yeah, tough scene for Sauce, and he also had
some unique comments after the game. I'll say that in
like a trolling way. He really did. I asked him,
struck straight out, did they tell you it's not in Achilles' injury?
And he'd started talking about God, and I was like, oh,
this is not good. I didn't want to go to
church on Sunday after the game. You know, usually before
calf strains in Indies. I know you, but surely you jest, sir.
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I know what the crazy part is. I honestly felt
like Daniel Jones with his reportedly fractured fibula, was not
the problem yesterday.
Speaker 8 (05:47):
No.
Speaker 9 (05:48):
I thought it was a lot of other things around him.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
It would have been nice if it had been healthy
for a potential quarterback sneak late in the game where
Tyler Warren took a direct snap and fumbled it immediately
and that was that.
Speaker 9 (05:58):
Yeah, definitely, But again I thought that he was relatively
fine considering how stout Houston's defense is. It's just so
much more other things we can point to and say
this is where this team is lacking. So we'll get
into it throughout the show, for sure, but this team
is really lost through to the last four and at
this point I'm like, you guys, gotta make some things happen.
Otherwise your grip on making the playoffs come to the question.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
It was Jarrings seeing like the playoff picture images and
the cults where a wild card team, like, what the
hell happened? It's been just a few weeks and they
are all of a sudden like a fifth seed or something.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Well, you get Texans once again, you got two against Jacksonville,
you got San Francisco and Seattle interwoven amongst those games.
Doesn't get any easier, Kevin, Like, you're gonna have to
show up and earn your way in now.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
No, it's a harder schedule in the NFL over the
final five weeks. So yeah, it's it's gonna set up
one of the more critical months this franchise has had
in a while, short term, long term how you want
to look at it. Obviously, the injury to Sauce Gardner
and his absence, you know, to Forrest Buckner is going
to be out another week. I think, you know, kicker
tryouts need to be happening by lunchtime here.
Speaker 8 (07:06):
But that's just me.
Speaker 7 (07:06):
No one wants to hear me gripe about kickers clearly,
you guys didn't want me to gripe about.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Kick I think today is the day to gripe about
kickers you're doing JMB. I was sitting next to JMB
and Jake Query yesterday in the press box, and I
don't know what came over me. It just happened. It
was organic. When he doinked that extra point. You might
have heard me up above in that next level, I
had an audible like it was almost like the ball
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hit me. And JMB looked at me, like, what is
wrong with you? And I've just been around long enough
to know that in that type of game against that
defense and what was going on. I know you guys
felt the two right then and there. You thought this
could come back to haunt them, didn't. It didn't.
Speaker 9 (07:49):
I had a line in my story that I run
after the game, you guys, and I'm not some genius here.
I said, if you make the extra point in the
second quarter, you're not in touchdown or else mode in
the fourth quarter, because that is also an implication of
what happened. They had to go for it on fourth
down because they're down four and they couldn't just tie
the game. So unfortunate situation a lot more we can
(08:09):
get into Josh downs. I thought did not have enough
of the Josh downs types of plays that were used
to He did have a great play they're in the
third quarter, but a terrible drop in the fourth quarter.
And I think generally over the last few weeks he
hasn't really been all that of a catalyst, a positive
catalyst for this team. So yeah, a lot of questions.
I mean, Shane's not absolved of anything either. So this
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is where you see what you're made of. And right now,
for all of the talk we've had about the Colts
and you know, them telling other teams, showing other teams
that they're different, that they're not fraudulent, they look fake
right now. So that is my biggest takeaway from that
game was, Oh, you look very fake right now. You
were seven to one, you're now what eight and four,
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and the last couple of teams that you had, good teams,
you had opportunities to win, and you folded twice.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
They're gonna have to try and find a way to
pull it up all together down the stretch. Good stuff though.
Over the weekend, the Class one A through six A
state football championships over at Lucas Oil. I had the
opportunity to call six A with Matt Surface as Brownsburg
completes an undefeated season and they are back to back
six A champions with an impressive performance. And I tell
you what I'd heard about the kid. I've read about him.
(09:20):
I saw a few highlights, but Brendan Sharp is the
real deal for Brownsburg. There's a reason. I was talking
to John Hart last week, their head coach, and he said, yeah,
there's about a dozen powerful power force schools that have
been sniffing around and talking to him about wanting to
come there. The junior had over one hundred and fifty
yards receiving in the first half and a ninety nine
(09:41):
yard kick return for a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
I got some vibes honestly watching that, thinking back to
about ten years ago and Terry McLaurin was doing it
on that very turf in the state finals there and
only a junior for Brendan Sharp as well.
Speaker 8 (09:54):
So yeah, it seemed like great games.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
I listened to four A Ron Collie Dwanger went went
out of the wire, a great, great game.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Fakefield goal was the difference.
Speaker 8 (10:01):
In that one and that one. Yeah, you had a
fakefield goal. That was a huge call.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
So shout out to South Putnam Andrea and Cascade Hendrix
County with two of them Dwanger and four A and
then Newpal with the big fourth quarter there in five A.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
And New Pal's like the honey Badger of high school
fooball teams. They'll play anybody, anywhere, any level. They'll just
keep going.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
Uh. Lucasola Statum will be the place to be coming
up Saturday, as it is going to be quite the
scene there and the Cream and Crimson infiltration to downtown
Indianapolis will.
Speaker 8 (10:29):
Be a live.
Speaker 9 (10:31):
This week for the Colts. I wanted to be downtown
so bad.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
Two o'clock over Gamers Field House, Indiana and Louisville, and
that is the undercard, which is pretty wild to say
that an Indiana basketball game involving Louisville is the undercard,
but that's the state of the football program as they
absolutely dismantle Perdue on the scoreboard. UH Friday night in
the Bucket game and it is one v two Saturday
night inside of Lucasola Stadium and potentially the Heisman Trophy
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for grabs as well.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
All Right, lots to talk about. We'll recap all in
a concise, quick fashion come up in a moment on
the checkdown. It's a Monday here at ninety three five
and one oh seven five of the fair.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
They seized a fan morning show with KB, JB and Jeff.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
For Texans today are zero for four on third and
ten or longer. This is third and fifteen the twenty
five yard line thur and field goal territory. Here Christian
Kirk potions outlive on the left side now CJ. Stroud
clapping for the snap. He takes a five step drop
over the metal, throws and his receiver fell and a
flag is on the mode at the fifteen yard line.
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Cambinda been coverage for the Colts, but slipping on the turf.
I believe that was Xavier Hutchinson pass interference. C J.
Stroud fist bumping in celebration, and that is a horrible call.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
We're looking at the replay.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Hutchinson literally just slips on the turf and he was
hardly touched and in fact.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
He wasn't touched all touched at all.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Listen.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
I'm not an official guy.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I don't go after officials, but that's the worst call
I've seen all y'all.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
No, the Colts great good.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
The Colts get a horrible break right there. The anger
level in Indianapolis is at an all time high here
inside Lucas Oil Stadium.
Speaker 10 (12:26):
I mean, this is for all the marbles, guys, jeezus,
Coach Van Terry, I am not going to disagree one
single bit with that, but there were lots of fingers
to be pointed yesterday after watching the Colts drop one
of the Texans at home twenty to sixteen.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
You had the doint extra point early in the game
that set the tone for what you thought might be
a problem later on as it was then, aside from
that horrendous non interference call that Kennymore didn't even touch
the receiver. I've looked probably eight ten times at the
extra point that Kay Fairbairn got credit for in the
final touchdown that the Texan scored, and I'm sorry that
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thing was not good. I don't know what those two
guys underneath the uprights are looking at. I looked at
it from two different angles that they had. You have
to have the ball clearly inside both of those uprights
at the very least it was touching on the outside
of that thing. I don't know what those guys were
looking at.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
That was epic audio from Rick Ventura there marked acton great.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
They have some gems that I'll play later in the show.
They were in their bag yesterday.
Speaker 8 (13:34):
It's so funny.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
I always chat with Coach Ventury on the walk to
the elevator after the game, and gosh, he's able to
get so much more subdued postgame than obviously was he
in the moment.
Speaker 8 (13:45):
The bigger issue I had on that play was a
delay a game. To me, I have.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
I don't get why delay a game A is not
reviewable and B why don't we treat it like the
shot clock in basketball? Why don't we simply just have
a red light that lights up on the play clock
and the umpire of the ref spots it and boom,
good take it is a flag too easy? Like that's
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black and white, Kenny Moore, whatever.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
And then it is reviewable at that point, right.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
Kenny Moore? It was a bad call, but that's a
judgment call. Fair Baron's extra point. Do I think he
missed it?
Speaker 8 (14:24):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (14:25):
Is it a judgment call? Yes, Delay a game isn't
a judgment call. It's obvious either the clock is at
zero and the ball has been snapped or it's not,
so A I think it should be reviewed.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
And B.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
I don't get why there's this like unwritten rule of
no the the umpire looks at the play clock and
then he looks back up and if the ball is
yet to be snapped, then the play is allowed to
be happening. Because we see plays snapped. I would argue
probably three to five times a game with zero on
the play clock. It makes no sense to me why
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this has become some unwritten in rule. So that occurred
on that very play right there. Again, the past interference
was an awful call. And yes, I think the extra
point it probably was messed. Do we need to raise
the goalpost to the roof?
Speaker 9 (15:14):
I don't know, but I feel like at one point
in that game didn't they use like the I believe
it was the Colt's fourth downstop that they got Hawkeye. Yeah,
they were like, you know, the chip and the ball,
we use some advanced data and they didn't advance it
past this mark. And so shout out to Nathan Brown.
Actually go check out his work at Indie Star as
well New Colts Reporter. He was talking about after the
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game how they should have like lasers or something that
just go straight up so you know exactly if the
ball cleared or not. That would make too much sense
as well. But that one, to me doesn't bother me
as much. Yeah, I think the delay of game one
is the one where I'm like, the answer to it. Oh,
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don't get me wrong, they definitely bothered me, but I'm like,
if you're picking one that's stupider than the other, I
feel like to one where the clock literally runs out
of the simplest of the two.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
To decipher, that's black and white.
Speaker 9 (16:05):
Looking at the explanation from Clay Martin, the official shout
Joel a Erics and Vandy Starr, he's a poor reporter
if it I was listening. A poor reporter is the
person who goes and talks to the officials about controversial
calls after a game, and Clay Martin, the lead official, said,
the back judge is the calling official, and there is
a process on that when the clock hits zero, he
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looks down to the ball, and if the ball is
snapped as he looks down from the clock to the ball,
we leave that alone. That's what he ruled on the play.
So to get some context here. When you ask these
officials in these NFL settings about missed calls, they never
say they missed it. They just say, oh, I felt
like this, I follow it, which I feel like is pointless. Then, like,
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why do we have you sit up there and say
anything if all you're going to say is well, I
felt like this was right. Well I felt like I
should Mary Rihanna, it didn't happen. So in my mind,
I just think that that's kind of dumb and gaslights
you into like thinking you didn't see what you just
saw with your own eyes. That's my only take on it.
Like why even interview them if they can't tell you
I messed up. At least the NBA has the last
two minute report.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Yeah, which is pointless though screw.
Speaker 9 (17:13):
Like dang, they at least say they were wrong. The
NFL just kind of smug. It's like, well, you know what,
we were not wrong. Your interpretation of what we interpreted
was wrong.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
What.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
I'm glad you explained what the pool report was because
I'm sure there's an audience out there that doesn't quite
know what it is.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
I think it's the stupidest thing.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
And I mean Joel walked down to us and was
asking us, Hey, what questions should I ask the official?
I wanted to say to Joel Joels to waste your time. Yeah,
like you're going to get at least if you really
want to compare injury or pool reports two minutal reports.
At least the NBA will admit they're wrong, That's what
I'm saying. The NFL is not going to admit that
they're wrong, and the immediate aftermath. It's not like Clay
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Martin is in a locker room with Joel a Ericson
and they're going over and watching the film together and
he's explaining, oh, yeah, you know now that I see it,
Like did Kenny Moore? I forget his exact phrase, James,
He said that he grabbed the receiver at the top
of the route. Yeah, I believe was kind of the
exact phrase, arm grabs.
Speaker 9 (18:07):
What the official said, you know, And if you look
back at the play, he did grab his arm slightly.
But man, in an NFL game.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
I think I did more touching at my first school
dance thymore did on Xavier Hutchinson on that play there. Yeah,
just again, to me, the delay game is a bigger issue,
and I thought the pass interference penalty on Alex Pearis
was a bad call. I mean, Daniel Jones almost hit
the cheerleaders with that ball. Is there an uncatchable element
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to Again, these are where the judgment calls get into
gray area. For me, what's black and white? The clock
red zero? That is a delay of game. It should
be reviewed and we should have a nice little red
light right around the play clock on each side of
the field. And when it goes off, it's abundantly clear
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it's a five yard penalty and no more this unwritten
rule of well, if it's a zero in my head,
didn't look up in time and you snap the ball, whila,
you can have forty one seconds in play.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Well, there are other things to talk about as well,
And I thought that this was interesting from Richard, and
I'm not gonna lie. This discussion happened with two different
media people up in the press box throughout the course
of the game, and I think it's been there sometimes
and maybe it's overstated or not.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
You guys tell me you're around the team a little
bit more. But I kind of agree with Richard here,
who texted in at two three nine ten seventy and
says I feel like Shane draws up plays like he
is the smartest man in the room. He very well
might be. But the play where you have Tyler Warren
take the snap with DJ in the backfield, why not
just line up and say our O line is going
to beat you instead of a bit of a trick
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play that ends up disastrous. I feel like this has
happened more often than not.
Speaker 9 (19:53):
That play is certainly one I wish they could have back.
I'll tell you this, and this isn't some genius analysis.
They're not going to QBS sneak with the guy with
a broken leg, so that's not happening. I think they've
really missed that element. Actually fine with their game. But yeah,
to the point of what Richard is saying, yeah, how
about you just handed twenty eight and go out there
and whoop somebody. But I don't know, man, I look,
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I'm not necessarily like gonna look at I don't know
if Shane was a problem yesterday. I thought Shane was
awful in Kansas City, But yesterday I felt like the
playmakers had to make more plays. Are we having the
same conversation if, for example, Josh Downs doesn't drop that
ball on third down in the fourth quarter. Like, I
don't know if they're like it's specials make some of.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
The calls that we've been talking about those things.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Again, we are in the camp of we want to
I think blame Shane stykeing for everything. James, I thought
you said it very well the Kansas City game with
an I guess an injured quarterback. You throw the ball
eight straight times in abandon Jonathan Taylor, Like that to
me is much more of an issue than can we
not just say the ball probably should have been snapped
and Tyler Warren probably should have secured it. Like did
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Houston not run tight end QB sneaks yesterday?
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Did? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (21:05):
Did the Baltimore Ravens not gonna say?
Speaker 9 (21:07):
Houston literally had a wide receiver score his first rushing
touchdown of his career.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
Like Baltimore does the Mark Andrews thing a lot. They
don't do so Lamar Jackson, so Derrick Henry. Like, to me,
there is an element of sometimes the dudes just need
to execute the play. Daniel Jones is hurt, He's not
going to QB sneak it what happened last week on
third and one. Jonathan Taylor got blown up like it's
not to me. The QB sneak in third and short,
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fourth and short is exactly the play called team should do.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
So let me ask you a question on that, because
you bring up a good point. Who's probably your biggest,
strongest skilled position player on that team.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
Right now, probably Tyler Warren.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Why not just have him take a direct snap and
do it our version of the Twish push and go.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
Well, that's what they tried to do, and he fumbled.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
It, right, but I'm talking about under center he did, okay.
Speaker 8 (21:54):
And he fumbled it. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
That's exactly what the play was. The play was supposed
to be a QB sneak with Tyler Warren. I don't
you know, Shane's getting too cute. I mean, okay, Daniel's
got a broken leg. QB sneak had worked what every
time with Danie Jones this season. I'm trying to think, James,
I can't recall it. Maybe gottop once. It's like nine
of ten. Yeah, whatever the percentages is, it's at a
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very high level. So what's the next best thing? In
my opinion, it is Tyler Warren and following you know,
Quentin Nelson and following you know, that offensive line. That
was just a bad execution play by the players itself there.
So I'm not in this. You know, we have to
blame Shane for every single thing. Did the Colts not
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come to play in their biggest home game of the
season and one of the biggest games in the Shane
second era. Yeah, that's very fair to say. But in
that individual play, I got no issue with it.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
The other thing that I did want to talk about too,
because I do think you mentioned this in your story,
and this is a positive, is Alex Pierce developing into
the clear note number one wide receiver on this football team.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
There's no development. He is, period. Alec Pierce is the
best wide receiver the Colts have. He is the most
threatening wide receiver the Colts have, and I would argue
he's the most reliable around the whole route tree, which
that's where the developing part probably comes into play, Jeff.
But right now, I mean, you know, when you look
back on that final drive, Taylor, what gets stopped for
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you know, one or two yards on first down, second down,
they take the shot to Pierce, and then third down
downs drops at fourth down, the ball goes off You know.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
Pittman's outstretched hands right now.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
This offense, if it's not going to Jonathan Taylor, it
needs to be target Alek Pierce at all costs. You know,
good things happen when you target him down the field.
I think DB's panic, but I also think Alec Pierce
is rounding out that route tree in the growth that
you want to see. So to me, he is the
number one wide out on this football team. It's going
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to be a massive payday for him. All of those things.
I thought he was a very small basket and it
was Alec. That dude thrives. He's probably the most unclouster
felloedic human I've ever seen. I feel like Alan peers
in those small little areas. He just so cool, calm
and collected. Makes that catch seemingly every single time.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
And I will say this too on that bum leg
that throw. A couple of throws that Daniel Jones made yesterday, James,
and especially that one to Pierce the touchdown, those were
sweet rows.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
Had a couple of the downs too.
Speaker 9 (24:30):
Man, Absolutely, I thought that he's he looked fine. And
this goes back to even the Thanksgiving Day practice where
video comes out and I'm looking at him, he's limping around.
He's fine on like stationary throws, it's the movement throws
and obviously the scramble. We didn' see him scramble not
once yesterday, I believe, which is probably a good thing.
Although we did see a Texans defensive tackle dive right
(24:54):
into his leg from the past the penalty. But I
was like, that couldn't have felt great. But he was fine.
I didn't think that Daniel Jones was the problem yesterday
at all, whatsoever. He gave you a chance to win
that game, which is all you can ask for from him.
Is he no longer playing at an MVP level like
he was the first month of the season. Sure, but
as I mean, he's been playing awful to me. But
I do think we're starting to see teams kind of
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figure the Colts out. I want to say, not say
I know this for a fact. Actually through the first
eight games when they were seven to one, they were
averaging thirty three point eight points per game, And over
the last four games, I want to say, they're just
under twenty two points a game. So that is a stark.
That's like eleven point difference right there. That's a big,
(25:35):
big difference in your production and the way you're being
able to dominate teams over the last month of the season.
And it will not get much easier from an opponent
standpoint because of you know that, I get that feisty
Jaguars team. You haven't beat them in forever down in
Duval County, and you also have Seattle and the forty
nine ers awaiting. So yeah, it's it's now or never
(25:56):
if you're going to kind of prove that you're not
the same old Colts and you're not gonna blow this away.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Jacksonville, what we got to talk about them for a minute.
I know they're coming up and we'll talk about them
all week long. But when you take a look around
the AFC South, Jacksonville's now eight and four, and as
you mentioned right now have the tiebreaker over the Indianapolis Colts.
They dominated on the road. And I know Tennessee is
not a great football team, but Jacksonville starting to feel
themselves a little bit. They're winning some football games these days.
Speaker 9 (26:22):
Tough team and if you're looking for like Marquis victory,
they have a few of them this season. Kevin and
this could be another one for him.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
Yeah, Kanna City, San Francisco, right, Ye beat the Chargers
by a lot, so yeah, I mean it's it's going
to be a huge, huge one. Sound like a broken record.
I always said it last week, these two games coming
into Sunday. If you beat Houston and Jacksonville in these
consecutive weeks, I believe your AFC South odds increased to
north of ninety percent. Obviously you lost yesterday, so that
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can't happen if you split. So if you're gonna if
you beat Jacksonville on on Sunday, your AFC South odds
about a coin flip.
Speaker 8 (26:59):
If you lose, those odds would drop south of twenty percent.
So it just.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
I don't think it's that hyperbolic to continue to stress
the massive, massive importance. Not just I would argue for
this season. I mean, there are some ramifications that if
you bottom out here in December, what about the future,
What about the future at the pillars of this organization,
(27:28):
I might those questions can't be ignored, right.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
I might point to next week in and of itself.
Obviously you're playing Jacksonville, and now if you lose to
Jacksonville on the road, you're a game behind them. And
they've got a head to head over you, even though
you got won the play left. And if Houston wins
their game next.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
Week, I got Kansas City Sunday night.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Yeah, they play Kansas City someday, they win that football game,
you might be looking at third place all of a
sudden in the AFC South.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
Correct, I mean you are you would I believe if
those scenarios play out, Jeff, I believe you'd be out
of the playoffs. I think right now the Colts of
the sixth seed, mark, will you double check that they
are the sixth seed?
Speaker 8 (28:08):
Sixth seed?
Speaker 7 (28:09):
And one thing to note about the playoff picture right
now eight nine, ten, which are the three teams obviously
just outside seven teams make the playoffs from each conference
eight nine and ten, they all have beaten you. That's
in some order, I forget the order. But it's like Houston, Pittsburgh,
Kansas City. So if you get into the tiebreaker situations
with them right now, the Houston one, you could split
(28:32):
it if you beat them in the final game of
the season, if that matters.
Speaker 8 (28:34):
Right now, they aren't in your favor.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
Well, as far as a couple of those teams are concerned,
Pittsburgh yesterday. You got the crowd chanting fire Mike Tomlin
in the fourth quarter of another Steelers loss. Who knows
what the health issue for Aaron Rodgers is going to
be moving forward.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
I say a great meme that he looked like he
had just he was one of the robbers and home alone.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yeah, I saw that. You try to mess with Kevin
was excellent.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Had Blome he knows and they're the.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Big surprise. He's blaming his wide receivers again.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
But here's the other thing though. If Houston does win
Sunday night, that's bad in one sense for the Colts,
but it does probably eliminate the Chiefs at that point.
Don't Jay Man, At.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
This point you any boat to be cheering for that?
Speaker 7 (29:20):
Man there were You are in an AFC South boat
in that blank period. You can't be worried about the Chiefs. Mark,
shout out to your Bears.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Just win.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Yeah, that was impressive on Friday, very impressive. They are
now sports arousal as jam V says.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
Yeah, one seed in the NFC with the Rams losing
in the cross country game. Yes, Jay, the Carolina Panthers.
I must say, I was looking across your way to
see if those standings were up on your computer. Were
you checking the bio of Carson Wentz.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
I'm doing some research, Kevin. We got Goats of the
Week coming up. Might have some research coming up.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
What the hell has Carson Wentz done in the last
seven days. It's called the teas. You just gotta have
to sit back, relax and wait. All right, Tom was
stop cheating off your test?
Speaker 8 (30:00):
Michael professor here Mike Wells looking at him or something.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Well, hey, Michael's probably filled himself a little bit after
the way Brownsburg marched to a six A championship.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
I saw Mike yesterday uh pregame at the uh at
the press box, and he was holding court with a
bunch of the Indiana University students that he teaches and
mentors down there and then it man, he was. They
were hanging on every word that he had to say.
Speaker 8 (30:25):
Carson has a nice touch on his bass.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yes he does.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
I don't believe that was the conversation he was having.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
Oh that was not it was. It was a legitimate conversation,
but it was. It was fun to see him in
his element. Man looking hot in the back of the
studio right now, Is.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
That one how did he catch all these strays?
Speaker 7 (30:44):
All of a sudden, It's Saturday night inside of Lucasoil Stadium.
The hottest football ticket we've ever had for a game
in there?
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Would you say four hundred dollars for the cheap seats?
Right now?
Speaker 8 (30:54):
What do you think.
Speaker 9 (30:57):
Is this with the context of the previous Colts home
playoff games were like played at the former place?
Speaker 7 (31:03):
Well, no, I mean you obviously have had Colts playoff
games in there. You know, AFC Championship wuld probably be
in a level right, but in the let's say, maybe
the last ten issues.
Speaker 9 (31:12):
That's all like, all right, AFC Championship game is kind
of kind of be ten twelve years.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
But like, if you look at secondary ticket market, harder
ticket to get, the Johns had a national title game
there Alabama Georgia a few years ago. Yeah, I mean,
this is really it's not I don't think it's at
Taylor Swift levels.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
That's why it's going to bring up. But for sports,
this has got to be.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
It, right, I'm hard pressed to recall something else. I mean,
I I Royal rumble tickets. It honestly just kind of
popped in my head. I really haven't given a much thought,
so I could be dead wrong on it, but I
mean the cheapest ticket being four hundred dollars on a Monday.
Speaker 9 (31:46):
I always forget the natties on a Monday.
Speaker 8 (31:49):
Well, no, no, no, no, today, you mean today? Today? I
mean we're six days out with the little boy that's
going to be.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
You can go to a Colts game in those tickets
that are four hundred dollars on Saturday night for what
mark like forty bucks.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Probably doing some cross referencing now to see what we're
looking at here. Don't look at my screen, Kevin.
Speaker 9 (32:09):
Yeah, you gotta get a couple like you gotta get
the folders. Remember the folders you'd have. Oh yeah, at
the folders and make sure your test all right?
Speaker 5 (32:15):
There you go? All right? Coming up in a month,
we'll talk more about the Colts. Will take some of
your phone calls. Get the Pulse of Cults Nation today
at two three nine ten seventy. You will also check
in on a bunch of texts that have been flying
in all morning at the same number two three nine
ten to seventy. Colts got a lot of work to
do and it's straight ahead of them. We'll tell you
all about it next to ninety three five and one
oh seven five the Fan.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
They see Star Fan Morning Show with Chbi shab and Jeff.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
It's a five yard penaly from the spot of the foul.
It is a loss of down, second down.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, a line of scrimmages.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
But nine he threw that from about the eleven yard line.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, they're headed bap to Shapiro's.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Right, Powther, We're almost in my garage on the south side.
Speaker 8 (33:00):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Let's see if CJ's droud could it figure out how
to work that gggerator on.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
The south shot.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Great stuff for Matt Taylor and coach Venturi all throughout
the broadcast, both in having humorous moments, ripping the officials
at the appropriate time, talking about things as they happened.
They did a fantastic job. Hope you had a good
time listening to their broadcast. If that's how you enjoyed
the game yesterday or I don't know, if you enjoyed
the game or not. The way it all turned out,
you probably enjoyed it to the last four minutes of
(33:30):
the game, I would think.
Speaker 9 (33:32):
I don't know, Jeff, it was rough early as well,
when they came out with three straight pass plays and
went three and out. I was thinking, boy, whom I
get some booze here?
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Nobody was calling for anybody's head though, like they were
in Pittsburgh last night. Were you surprised to see the
Steelers fans now chanting fire Tomlin?
Speaker 7 (33:50):
No, not at all, not at all. I think they
were teetering on that until TJ.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Watt.
Speaker 7 (33:54):
Honestly, so much of this cold season not to boil it.
Number one play that TJ. Watt strip sack beating Braden
Smith into Daniel Jones. That was a potentially season changing play.
It seems like ever since then it's been a bit
of a snowball down the hill for the Colts.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
That one's not our problem, but it was worth noting.
Time to get to the best and worst of the week,
Mark Dyke, and let's get to it. Who is the goat?
Speaker 8 (34:19):
I'd told you all that I was the greatest of all.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Time, Georgy.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Here's Michael at the filine.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
I shot on e.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Or goat. This guy sucks of the week.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
Oh, lots of places to start, lots of places to
shine a light on good and bad. Do you want
to go to the good or the bad? To start
things off, Mark, Colts.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Lost, we go bad, and it's been a long time.
We've been off since after Wednesday, so there's plenty to
dive in.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
All right, I'll start this off this week. The easy
thing is to go to the NFL officials that worked
out Colts Texans game yesterday. They made so many mistakes
that cost the Cults big time in addition to some
of the Colts mistakes of their own. But I'm not
going to go there. I'm gonna go to the big
bad Bill Belichick, who finishes his first regular season in
the college ranks with a four and eight record at
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North Carolina, losing big time to the rival North Carolina
State wolf Pack yesterday Saturday. They couldn't get anything going.
They're just not a very good football team. There was
also audio released the last week of one of the
wives of the sons of Bill Belichick just openly ripping
(35:42):
Jordan Hudson and what she's doing to Bill Belichick. It's
a disasters in Chapel Hill, and I can't as a
Colts fan, doesn't hurt my feelings at all that it's
Bill Belichick.
Speaker 9 (35:52):
I feel like Jeff just gave me a rundown of TMZ,
slash the shade rooms, all the where people in my
life get there.
Speaker 8 (35:59):
More Wives episode.
Speaker 9 (36:01):
Yeah, a lot of drama there, certainly a good pick
of the bag go to the week. I will go
with Clay Martin, the lead official for the coach game yesterday,
for this poor report, and I hate it. I hate
all these poor reports. Think they all stink. Basically every
question that he was asked it was, well, we thought
we were right, so we were right. It's a horrible answer.
It's a horrible thing for Leeds even give us. So
I would just like a last two minute report kind
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of like you see in the NBA. Doesn't help anything, no,
but at least you can say you're wrong, this is stupid.
This you stand here and let them lie to your face.
And also a little insight there for those listening. The
poor report, I'll have you know, is not necessarily you
just stand there and report what they say. It's not
like a press conference with Shane Styken. You get on
the phone, you do the thing, and then they answer
the questions and then they you can't say anything until
(36:45):
they give you permission or or send you a copy
of what they said. When they clean it all up,
so you can't even ask them a question in the
moment to get a real reaction. They get a chance
to go back and say, well, I kind of said this,
let's doctor it up a bit. I hate that.
Speaker 8 (36:56):
I hate Yeah, it is very stupid.
Speaker 7 (36:58):
I love the drama surrounding this next one, but that
doesn't mean he's not the negative goat of the weekend.
Lane kiffen believing that he should coach Old Miss in
the college football playoff. This man quit on his team
hosting a home playoff game, and he's whinding that he
can't coach them in the playoffs when he takes a
(37:19):
job with a school that's in their same conference. Your
decisions have consequences, especially in the portal era, especially when
you're taking assistant coaches with you. Lane Kiffin, college Football.
I love the drama. It's the scene from the airport yesterday,
the kid calling him the kicker's name for the Atlanta Falcons,
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young Hoku. I laugh, my, you know what off at
that college sports are not real in the SEC. Lane
Kivin's an idiot for thinking he should be able to
coach All Miss in the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (37:53):
Hey, real quick, I will say though the reporter that
called him, oh, I definitely think that like you used
to be had to play hands on any.
Speaker 8 (38:00):
Hoe Markers as hoe allowed to be said, right, we're.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
Letting it fly.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Who's doing work? Oh, I'm so sorry now, kicker.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
That reporter also disputes that he used the word hoh.
He made the very the description was there, but he
disputes the word.
Speaker 9 (38:16):
No, anybody to call you that. As a man, you
should be able to put hands on him, and he
had the energy at all. I was kind of hoping
I se him laying on that one. Like I agree
with over everything you said, Kevin, but on that particular thing.
If you call a man that keep that saying, manage
you don't. We don't run on Twitter and tell us
what you would ever could have done? All right, sorry,
dumped that?
Speaker 5 (38:32):
What do you got Mark?
Speaker 3 (38:33):
The Minnesota Vikings are a team without a quarterback on
their roster. JJ McCarthy's been bad and injured, Carson wentz
on ir Max Rosmer was horrific, Yessdraight, and the only
one left standing is John Wolford. They are a mess,
and it's only worse by the fact that the guy
who they let walk in free agency, went to Seattle
and helped beat them yesterday in a shutout. Sam Darnold
donald hasn't exactly lit it up. He's had twenty nine
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and thirteen yards, nineteen touchdowns and ten interceptions. But the
Vikings all four Vikings qbs have a combined for t
three hundred and thirteen yards on the season, twelve touchdowns,
nineteen interceptions. Kevin asked why I was looking up Carson Wentz.
That is why the combination of Vikings quarterbacks don't have
what Sam Darnold has statistically.
Speaker 8 (39:15):
We got to quick here.
Speaker 7 (39:16):
Joe Burrow shout out goat of the week, Love the
pregame interview on Thursday Night Football, explaining why he wanted
to play with the Bengals still a million games.
Speaker 8 (39:24):
Out of the playoff picture.
Speaker 7 (39:26):
I get a million dollar athlete, et cetera, et cetera,
in an air of load management. I know a lot
of people are quick to point the others for Joe
Burrow to got it out and play extraordinarily well on
Thursday Night Football. Love seeing that from him, So shout
out to Joe Burrow.
Speaker 9 (39:39):
Shot out Chris Skinner from Andriana High School. He has
been a part of all four state championships before that team,
one as a player, one is an assistant, and two
times as the head coach. Shout out to my guy,
coach Skinner.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
I'm going to stay in the high schools as well.
Brandon Sharp two hundred and fifty all purpose first half
yards against Westfield for Brownsburg as they complete a back
to back state championship run, all of that coming in
the first half, one hundred and fifty one yards and
a touchdown receiving and a ninety nine yard kickoff return.
I also want to give a nod to Kyle Rauth,
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the head coach at New Palestine. They won last year
in four They went up a division to five A
and they won that one too. It's pretty impressive stuff.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
A year ago, the Bears fired Matt Eberflus. Fast forward
to now, Ben Johnson has the Boys at nine and three,
the best record in the NFC. He took a shirt
off in the locker room so that Chicago gets free
hot talks tomorrow. Shout out Ben Johnson.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
That's the key right there. I'll get your shirt off
for free hot dogs. You like that, don't you, Kevin?
Speaker 7 (40:37):
If Ebraflues would have done that, he'd still be the coach.
Speaker 5 (40:40):
All right. That's what's happening for the Goats of the week.
Here at ninety three five one oh seven five the Fan,
we'll talk a little bit more about a big college
football game coming up this weekend in Indianapolis. That's next.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Please see Star Fan Morning Show with KB JB and Jeff.
You know, you go back to work.
Speaker 6 (40:57):
I think, you know, putting your head down and focusing
on what we need to do to improve. I think
everybody taking accountability and ownership of of what we need
to do, and certainly I played a big role in now.
So for me, it's it's, you know, putting your head
down and go back to work and making sure that
I'm doing everything I need to do to put the
team in a position to win games.
Speaker 5 (41:19):
It's Daniel Jones, quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts. They've all
of a sudden, lost three of their last four Kevin Bowen,
and now they've got what is considered to be the
toughest schedule in the NFL over their final few weeks
of the season. It's gonna be tough, but it's also
an opportunity here you.
Speaker 7 (41:36):
Go, sure, I mean at the start of the year.
You would have said, hey, eight and four December first,
and you know, whatever tied atop the AFC South, yeah,
you would sign up for it. But living in the
reality of where you're at right now, it's a team
that is definitely really and you know, you look at
the next two weeks. I think that's why yesterday it
was so important. It was at home. You had been
a great home team all season long, first home loss
(41:58):
of the year. You had scored what he goes at
least twenty nine I believe, in every home game this season.
And now you're at Jacksonville and at Seattle the.
Speaker 8 (42:06):
Next two weeks.
Speaker 7 (42:07):
So and you know, you close out that you're at Houston,
and you know it's not impossible by any means, but
you've lost your grip on the AFC South. You've lost
from playing ahead, and now it's really anyone's guest as
to who's going to win this division and if it
starts to continue to go down the path that it
is right now, I mean, you could miss the playoffs,
which is just kind of wild to.
Speaker 8 (42:27):
Think where you were at entering that Pittsburgh game.
Speaker 5 (42:31):
Now I speak of playoffs college football, the playoffs were
several weeks away, but we've got conference championship games all
over the country this weekend, including one couple of blocks
away at Lucas Oil Stadium, Indiana taking on Ohio State. Kevin,
you had mentioned earlier that right now Ohio State's a
five and a half point favorite. But if you go
to the ESPN dot com analytics page right now, their
(42:52):
computer models give Indiana a fifty point six percent chance
of winning that football game, So by six tenths of
one percent, they're the favorite according to the analytics.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
So you're telling me there's a chance.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
Oh yeah, big chance. I like the way is playing
right now, speed, physicality. I can't wait to see him
go ahead.
Speaker 7 (43:12):
I mean, I do mean this in all seriousness. Indiana
will have more fans in that building. I think it
will be a Rockeus environment for the Cream and Crimson.
It's honestly a Saturday you dream of, I think as
a sports fan to have your basketball team playing at
Gambridge Field House at two o'clock and then you get
the nice two three hour break to do whatever you
would like, and then you head on over to Lucasolo
(43:33):
Stadium for your team doing something they've never even never
even thought was realistically possible in terms of your football program.
And I also think Ohio State, I do think there
could be a real emotional hangover from the Michigan game,
everything that's invested into that game for their program. And
you know, Ryan Day's been pretty outspoken all year long
(43:54):
about you know, it's a grind going on a playoff run,
and you know, well, at the end of the day,
the Big Ten championship only means so much to a
program like Ohio State. I mean, that's just reality. It
means a world of difference in Indiana than it does
to Ohio State. And if Carnel Taate or Jeremiah Smith
wo've had nicked up injuries, if they get a little
(44:15):
banged up there, you know you're not going to push it, right,
I mean, you'd be ludicrous too.
Speaker 5 (44:20):
I am so happy for our friend Don Fisher. You
want to talk about kind of a bucketless day for
an announcer, a guy who's seen everything basketball football for
Indiana over the incredible career that he has had to
get the idea to get the chance to call a
Louisville Indiana game at the Fieldhouse in the afternoon, go
(44:42):
a couple of blocks West later that night and do
a Big ten championship game with an undefeated Indiana team
taking on an undefeated Ohio State team. Like as a
as a broadcaster, that's a dream day, right there, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (44:55):
I love it for him.
Speaker 7 (44:56):
I know we played so many Fish highlights throughout the year,
and you know his conversations so with Jake or with
John are always must listen to each week. So just
an awesome Saturday fans. And one thing to point out
from the Bucket game on Friday night. You know when
Banana Mendoza is having a little bit of struggle early
in that game, I would argue one of the most
consistent aspects in Indiana all season long, and something I
(45:17):
and probably I'll say we have not given enough credit
to their run game is elite Roman hemby ripping off
the big one on Friday night. I mean, they can
run the football and they had a huge injury early
in the year in that backfield there, so their ability
to run it I think has really helped, you know,
keep that offense as you know, potently balanced as they have.
(45:41):
And again when you have a first quarter where I mean,
hell mean Thoza got away with a couple frankly throws there.
You're still able to, you know, play from ahead, and
you're able to rely on that ground game. So any
sort of win on Saturday night or playoff run, I
think we'll certainly have to lean on that run game,
all right.
Speaker 5 (45:58):
Coming up for a moment, back to the Colts. Will
take your phone calls and your texts at two three
nine ten seventy. We'll get to the text line in
a big way for the first time today. A lot
of interesting comments on there. We'll do that. Still time
to get in two three nine ten seventy. It's the
Fan Morning show on a Monday here at ninety three
five and one oh seven five A fan
Speaker 7 (46:15):
If you are a Colts fan right now, would you
rather have Michael Badgley kicking or Matt Gay kicking for
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