December 22, 2025 • 43 mins
00:00 - 13:48 – On the national radio call for tonight's Colts-49ers game, Westwood One's Ross Tucker joins the show to talk about the crazy stories that have filled the Colts' season, how the 49ers might play Phillip Rivers, how DeForest Buckner's return helps the Colts defense, how quickly did Ross accept that Rivers was going to start right away, does he think Daniel Jones should be back.
13:49 - 27:12 -- Joe Buck of ESPN Monday Night football touches on his alma mater, Indiana, and the run to the College Football Playoff number one seed, his reaction to Phillip Rivers starting, what the 49ers coaching staff has said about Rivers and what he expects from the game tonight. Then, he explains how he didn't finish his degree at IU but took the St. Louis Cardinals job, when he felt like the Hoosiers were special, his old Hoosier football stories, where he's spending while he's in Indy
27:13 - 43:19 – Marc Dykton stopped by the studio on his day off to talk about his Chicago Bears' big win over the Packers this weekend, will Phillip Rivers get graded like a block of cheese, morning checkdown, biggest stories of the NFL weekend, what's more realistic between Anthony Richardson or Riley Leonard starting, Marc Dykton's PTO excursions, predictions for Colts-49ers
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to the best of the Fan morning show
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Right, lessen twenty four hours from now, twenty four less
than twelve hours from now, inside of Lucas Oil Stadium.
For the first time in three years, the Colts play
Monday night football game. It will be Colts and forty
nine ers. Believe the spread settling in at five and
a half for San Francisco and on the Westwood One.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
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Speaker 4 (00:28):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
He's the host of the Ross Tucker Football podcast and
you can follow him over on Twitter at Ross Tucker NFL.
He's one of our favorites. Always enjoy chatting with him,
and he will call Lucas Oil Stadium home tonight. He
is Ross Tucker.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Ross.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Good morning to you. Hopefully you have some safe travels
here to Indy.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
Yeah, I'm here. Good morning to you guys as well.
I did the Jets and the Saints yesterday for CBS,
so it took me a little bit of time to
get here from New Orleans. But I'm here. Just hit
up the hotel restaurant and I'm ready to go.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Your level of shock.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
If I would have told you two weeks ago, hey,
that Monday night game in Indie, it'll be Philip Rivers.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
You're talking about a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
You know, it really hadn't even occurred to me, hadn't
thought of it. And I just must say personally, really
really disappointed for Daniel Jones and all of the Colts.
I called their game runner in the year for CBS
against Tennessee and they were really rolling. I was a
firm believer that they were one of the best teams
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in football, and very very excited about the marriage between
Daniel Jones and Shane Stiken and how well that had
been going. And just kind of really bummed out about
everything that happened. Kind of started, I think with the
cracked fibula for Daniel, and then obviously was what happened
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with the torn achilles. You know, Philip Rivers wasn't really
on my radar. It's kind of crazy if you think
about listen to this sentence. Okay, the Colts signed a
forty four year old quarterback who hasn't played football in
five years because their starting quarterback who was playing with
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the broken leg towards Achilles and the backup quarterback fractured
his eyebones with a rubber band before a game. I
mean that if that was in a movie, I don't
think you'd even believe it. And yet that's basically what
happened to the Colts and it's extremely unfortunate.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
Yeah, I think you hit right on the head there,
Ross with a lot of the circumstances that led to
Rivers coming out of retirement and joining the Colts. But
how much of it do you think is just beyond
the movie aspect of it, because there is a certain
level of whow the old guys doing it to?
Speaker 7 (02:54):
You got to win games.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
So when you're analyzing this team, how do you think
Rivers can potentially help him keep their playoff hopes alive
with the win tonight against the forty nine Ers.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Well, I do think that he gave them a chance
to win against Seattle. I am really curious to see
how the Niners play them tonight because he did not
try to drive the ball down the field very much
at all, and when he did it was not effective.
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The Niners themselves don't have a very good rush. But
I don't think you want to blitz Philip because he
knows where to go with the football. You know, you're
not going to get to him. You're not going to
let you hit him if you try to blitz them.
So this could be a truly unique game and in
which the Niners are either you know, playing breast man
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and trying not to go up anything underneath. I actually
think they're going to play a bunch of super condensed
zone where everything is pushed up and they're basically daring
Philip Rivers to try to throw it. You know, now
that you've got a full game of hate back on film.
That's the part that I think is really cool is
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to kind of see what ends up happening now now
that they've seen what he can or cannot do. I
do think he'll give them a chance to win again.
But the Niners offense is really good. I thought that
was one of the big takeaways I had from the
Colts Seahawks game is Seorks defense played well. I mean,
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Seeks defense cave him a chance to win. And now
you get Buckner back. I thought Buckner would be done
for the year. He is a difference making player. He's
a you know, top two or three most important player
on the Colts team. So to get him back tonight
is massive and that's.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
A voice of Ross Tucker.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I hear him on the Ross Tucker podcast, here, him
everywhere CBS.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
He's done some Colts games this year.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
He'll be on the west Wood One Call tonight over
on Twitter at Ross Tucker NFL. It's funny you say
that because I was talking with a NFL assistant on
another team and he said, if he was facing Rivers,
he would just drop eight.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Do you kind of view that general thought?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I mean you mentioned condense that zone a little bit there,
because yes, you obviously manage the game great in Seattle,
but you know, I think we all can look at
that and say that's not an offense that's sustainable over
the course of however long you need him.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
You know, I don't think that I'm going to Yeah,
I don't think I would say necessarily drop eight. But
that's interesting because you know he doesn't have that strong
of an arm. So you sit there and you think about,
you know, just how much he'll have to be able
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to put it ball into a window. If you drop eight,
that's you know, I might steal that and use that tonight.
That's certainly a possibility. I'd probably still rush for to
try to get somebody at him eventually or at some point.
But I do think you know, dropping eight is a
real possibility. The point will be make him throw it
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deeper down the field. I think you guys would probably
talked Dad and knowledge about the statistics of the throwers
that were more than ten yards in the air. That's
number one and then number two. Really make sure that
he has to drive the ball into small window. So
drop eight stone coverage and really you know, get close
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to sticky coverage on the underneath, guys, and see if
he can see if he can do it, see if
you can fire a ball in there. There's a real
chance he throws a few picks tonight because he's going
to try to fit the ball in there. I mean,
he didn't come back from retirement to be throwing the
ball away all night.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Ross.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
How quickly did you perhaps pivot to the idea of
him playing again when the news broke, because at first
it was you know, practice squad, tryout. He knows Roley
Leonard very well. But as you said, he didn't come
back to hold a clipboard. So how quickly did you
wrap your mind around that? And I mean, I don't
want to gloss over it. If he wins tonight, he
would be only the third quarterback in the history of
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the sport to win a game at age forty four
or older.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Well, I kind of thought, and maybe this was selfish
of me because I'm calling the game tonight, but I
kind of thought they might see what Riley could do.
In the first game, you know, against Seattle. I know
Riley was a little bit banged up, but I kind
of thought they might give Riley a spin with a
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full week of practice, getting all of the reps and
having the whole game plan designed around his skill set.
Because Riley's I think, pretty good and he can run.
So I kind of thought they would give Rivers a
little more time to get acclimated and give Riley one
chance to see what he can do. You know, it's
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almost like I'm not saying he's Malik Willis, but you know,
when the Packers have had to play Malik Willis, Lafour
like totally changes his game plan. Malik runs a lot,
and the Packers have won. You know, they've won several
games Malik Willis. I thought Steichen might sort of dip
(08:20):
into the Jalen Hurts twenty twenty one game plan, have
Riley run a bunch and use those legs and end
up having success as a result and potentially winning. I
guess the concern there is, you know, Riley gets hurt
and you're in trouble. But I thought they would give
Riley one game with all of the reps in practice
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during the week, but they elected not to.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah, definitely debate we have had here in the all right,
Ross last one for me and again hosts of the
Ross Tucker podcasting follow him at Ross Tucker NFL and
you'll hear him tonight on the Westwood One calls Kevin
Harlan here on Monday Night Football. Going back, that's what
you said a little bit earlier in the conversation about
Daniel Jones about how this team was looking pre injury.
(09:06):
Are you under the belief or think the Colts should
operate in a bring everybody back, including Daniel Jones for
twenty twenty six?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I am. I am.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Now that's not to say that there shouldn't be some tweaks,
but I honestly think they have a really good team.
You know, I don't look at Denver or New England
and think that they're way ahead of the Colts. I
don't even think they're ahead of the Colts at all.
You know, if Buckner doesn't get hurt, if Garter doesn't
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get hurt. And I know that every team has injuries,
but there are certain guys that are game changing players.
There's only three or four on a team, maybe five.
And you know, obviously we'll see you about Sauce Gardner,
but the Colts think he is. Buckner definitely is, and
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the starting quarterback is, which, by the way, is one
thing that makes what the Niners have done this year
even more impressive because I would tell you that Nick
Bosa and Fred Warner are those guys. They are game
changing players. You know, they're two of the top twenty
defensive players in the NFL, certainly the two best defensive
players for the forty nine ers. So the fact that
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the forty Niners are even in this position says a
lot about them. But yeah, I would try to keep
the band together as much as possible with Daniel Jones
and the Colts, you know, assuming you'd be able to
come back to help. I think it's better than whatever
other alternatives would be out there.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
All right, Ross it is the holiday season typically you're
saving us from a present standpoint. Have you got something
cooked up here around Christmas?
Speaker 5 (10:50):
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when we were growing up. I mean, it is really
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These guys at futurefans dot com have really cracked the code,
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(11:31):
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to yourself. Because if they'll sit there and watch every
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that's probably the best gift you could ever get your son,
your daughter, grandson, granddaughter, niece, nephew. I actually invest in
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Speaker 2 (12:20):
And you're gonna hear Ross tonight him Kevin Harlan Westwood
one Monday Night Football.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Ross, great work all year long.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I know you're super busy, man, so thanks for making
time with us.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
My pleasure. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Ross Tucker, pay Less Slickers, Hotline Again, hosts of the
Ross Tucker Podcast at Ross Tucker NFL. You know the
drop eight idea, James that I kind of threw Ross's
way against Rivers. I think the thought there is he
is so cognizant of getting the ball out quick, you know,
think a little hot potato e that it really doesn't
matter how much you rush him per se like.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
Because you won't get there, well.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
You won't get there, and he's not dumb enough to
hold on to it, like, he's not going to try
to extend. He's he knows his internal clock, he knows
has got to get the ball out here.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
Wait for a guy who's played as much as he has,
he's rarely taken a lot of sacks in his career.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, so he's not three four second. So it's like, yes,
a pass rush could aid, but even if it doesn't
get home, he knows what that clock is in his head,
so he might naturally just get rid of it, even
if the pocket isn't necessarily collapsing around him.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
So I think it's a really interesting thought.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Again, on paper, the San Francisco defense is one of
the more vanilla defenses in the entire NFL. Gus Bradley
on that staff there with Robert Sala as their coordinator,
So definitely something to keep an eye on as we
continue to look ahead to tonight. It is Colts, it
is forty nine ers a half hour from now. Joe
Buck is going to join us right here on the
Fan Morning Show, Kevin Bow and James Boyd, Caleb zuover,
(13:45):
thanks for spending this Monday with us. All right, let's
head to the Payloff Liquors hotline right now. He is
the voice of Monday night football maybe to our market though,
and he might like this unapologetic Indiana football fan. That
is how I'll introduce Joe Buck here on this Monday morning. Joe,
thank you so much for the time. Good morning to you, man.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I come on, we got to represent for those of
us who who are who's your fans? I just I
can't get enough. I'm obsessed. I can't act like I've
been a diehard since I walked off the campus way
back in the roaring nineties, but for the last couple
of years, my god, it's just been a blast. So
(14:26):
thanks thanks for having me on. And yeah, I make
no apologies. So I was got so tired of hearing
from my UCLA partner and my friends who went to
Notre Dame and Alabama parents, and let's go. We finally
get to puff our chest out a little bit. It's nice.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Honestly, I think the weekly excitement level for me is
just waiting for you to needle Troy at some point
about the current college football landscape between Indiana and UCLA.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Well, I didn't even the game against UCLA was such
a joke and such a blowout this year that I
did and even bring it up. We were believe me.
We run a text chain and Troy, to his credit
and it's true, has has kind of flipped his allegiance.
He just loves good coaching, and I think he's recognized
what coach Signetti has done and he's kind of flipped
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his attention and his heart over to Indiana during this
little run. So I it was it was low hanging fruit,
so I just left it alone after they took it
to UCLA. But yeah, I can't wait. I can't wait
for this weekend and what's to come At the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 7 (15:36):
We have Joe buck on the line.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
And again, for as great as the vibes are with IU,
I would say it's probably the opposite for the Colts
right now. Joe, what was your reaction when Philip Rivers
came out of retirement and how quickly did you have
to accept that it is reality that he's trying to
do this with the struggling team. Be the third forty
four year old quarterback or olders win a game of
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the NFL.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yeah, you know, I guess for TV's sake and for
our narrative that we get to go into the game.
I was like, hell, yeah, let's go. We we we've
got interest in you know, it's just such a shame
what happened with Daniel Jones. And I do think the
leg and the fracture was clearly bothering him before the
Achilles went. So yeah, it's it's heartbreaking. And I've been
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there for so many of the games with the Giants
over the years for him and to finally see him
have his moment in this league with a really good team,
and I really do believe the Cults are a good,
good ball club and then to have that happen was awful.
And then the question is, okay, who's taken over? And
for us and TV it becomes a fun storyline and
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and I know people around here and the ratings were
crazy for the game last week, and it was a
great game and they almost pulled it off. I do
know that after talking to Kyle Shanahan, he won one
hundred percent genuinely believes that Philip Rivers can get this done.
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And you know, it was it was on the table
for him. To join the forty nine ers a few
years ago, and Brock Purdy took over and ended up
getting injured in the NFC champ game. There's a lot
of respect in this league for Philip Rivers, maybe more
than I was even aware of before this, before this
latest turn in his career. But you know, we can
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talk about it, but we talked to him. He feels
really good. I think he feels better this week than
he did last. And I give the Colts a real
chance to win this game tonight and have a chance
to get into the postseason with kind of this crazy
storyline going on at Voice.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Needs no introduction, Joe Buck, you'll hear him, of course.
Tonight it is Monday Night football. For the first time
in three years, the Colts all beyond it, Cults and
forty nine Ers over at Lucas Oil Stadium.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Joe, let's hit that maybe a little bit more.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
It seems like the Colts all week long have been
pretty optimistic that the game plan in Seattle was just,
you know, break glass in case of emergency. They feel
like there's more there with this passing offense, maybe more
there with even the right arm of Philip Rivers is
that the vibe that you got in speaking with them completely.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
And I'll tell you this, Philip is nothing if not honest,
and he was very open about how he felt last week.
He was shocked at how his body felt on Monday,
in the good sense that he woke up and he thought,
you know, it was going to be brutal. Just get
into the bathroom in the morning, and he said, you know,
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I had some mumps and bruises, but I felt better
than I thought I would. The one thing that he
said that you can't really replicate. You know, you can run,
you can put the pads on, you can guests, try
to get the legs in shape. But for what his
shoulder went through in that game, I think he came
out of that game pretty sore. In that regard. Talking
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to the forty nine ers, they say, you know, you
can see that the mind is good, you can see
that the arm is gonna be good. He's always kind
of had this funky delivery. The question is the legs
and the game shape of the legs, And so the
forty nine ers are going to try to get him moving.
And you know, if you're gonna face any team, this
is a forty nine er team that has an inside
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track on the number one seed, and they're dead last
in the league in sacks. Their pass rush has not
been good this year, and you know, maybe that plays
into the Colts hands tonight and exactly what Philip Rivers needs.
But I believe that as far as the game plan,
Philip said, you're gonna see more intermediate throws. You're gonna
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see more stuff down the field. He goes, am I
going to roll to my right and throw a ball
sixty yards? No, but you know I didn't do that before.
You're going to see I think more down the field though,
than you saw compared to the game in Seattle, which
was a lot of stuff around the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
Again, we have Joe buck on the Payoff Sickers hotline.
You'll hear his voice tonight on Monday Night Football, Joe
pivoting back to the college scene, IU has done what
many to believe has been the impossible the last two years,
going from nothing to a whole lot of something here
lately with a chance to try to contend for a
national championship. So for you, as someone who attended that university,
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when did you become a believer and coach Signetti, and
how quickly did you have to adapt your expectations to his?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
First of all, you said it perfectly right, because I
did not graduate. I walked after three and a half
years to do the cardinals. I was like, well, I
can either stay in school and hope someday to get
the cardinal job, or I can take the cardinal job.
And I opted for thanks to nepotism option B. So
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I took the cardinal job obviously. Dear friends with I
mean best friends with so many guys that you know,
we're in my fraternity there at IU and which was
Sigma Nu in in case you're wondering, and and so
we're on this gigantic text chain. I think I think
they kind of talked me into it. You could feel
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it brewin last year. But I think any of us
who've been fans over the years, you get teased into you.
We got teased into thinking that it was legit. And
they seem to always play or at times play some
of the bigger programs really tight, and then they would
lose the game, and it was like, I mean, we
are we ever going to get over the hump? And
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and I think it it changed last year when when
you know they they looked better. I think the eye
test with the way they look is just different. And yeah,
they lost to Ohio State. Last year they lost in
the College Football Playoff, but it just felt different. And
then this year, I think we can all agree that
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in the past the game at Penn State, the catch
was insane, but in years past he would have been
out of bounds, but this year he was inbounds. You know,
the game at Oregon, that's the game that IU doesn't
win in the past. And then I think I think
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even in the Ohio State game, everybody I did a
podcast with a guy, Jimmy Trayna, who covers the business
that I'm in, and he's like, yeah, but that game
didn't mean anything. And to me, I said, it meant
less to Ohio State, but it meant a lot to Indiana.
And the fan base is one thing. But I think
the team to say, well, we can beat Ohio State.
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We just did and we dominated them defensively. I think
that all of that goes into giving all of us
a real feel that they're good enough to win the
whole thing. Alabama scares me. I'm not gonna lie because
of their pedigree and because of their size and their athleticism.
But you know, I think Indiana probably scares them and
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and I don't think I've ever been able to say
that in the past their favorite for a reason.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
It's truly an unbelievable comment.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Now, when you were in Bloomington, that was actually, I mean,
that was some Mallory years, was it not?
Speaker 5 (23:25):
It was.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I mean, I'm basically the same age as Trent Green.
He was in mcnut dorm a year ahead of me,
and then I was McNutt And yeah, we were. I
mean back in the day. We would go to the
games and they were fun and Anthony Thompson and Trent
Green and Mallory and it was it was a good
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time to be an IU fan. I traveled went to
a game in Michigan State. They took on Lorenzo White.
It was it was a fun time in the Big
ten two. But then it kind of dipped down. And
then my daughter went there and I would visit her
and we would tailgate and then I'm like, all right,
it's game time, and she's like, oh, yeah, nobody goes
into the game. We just go home. I'm like, what
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don't we tailgate? But we go home, we don't go
into the game.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Always win the toilgate.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, But then I made her go in.
I'm like, no, we're going inside the stadium. We're going there,
and now you can't get into place, and it's it's
it's just great. But you're right. I mean, the late
eighties early nineties was a decent time to be an
IU fan, but it was it was nothing like this.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Well end with this, Joe, And again, we can't think
enough of the time here on what is a busy Monday.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
It's been a while.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Since Monday night football is called Indie Hall unless it's
been three years. Yeah, three years? Right, did you start?
I'm trying to think when did you come over to ESPN?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Uh first year? Was this is our fourth year? So
we were here, I guess.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah, so it's charge. I think it was Chargers and
Steelers late in the year. They actually had a couple
Monday nighters with Matt Ryan.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah and yeah, yeah, yeah, we did those games. We
did those games. We were here.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Was there any any staple for you last night? Did
you did you have dinner anywhere? Is there any I know,
maybe you're not in town for the combine I'm trying
to think of what other events you would have been
to Indy here.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
A lot of my friends are Colts fans, uh in
Saint Louis, So I brought three friends. They went to
Saint Elmo's my wife and I. My wife does Monday
and Night Countdown has a really great feature tonight, uh
with a little boy who's been through a lot and
uh a special relationship with one of the Colts cheerleaders
who signs, uh you can't hear, signs the national anthem
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to him and talks to him and has this great
relationship with him. It's a beautiful piece. She and I
just dated the Cap Grill here in the hotel, and
then I'm going to have lunch today at the Cap
Grill here in the hotel with a couple of fraternity
buddies that work here in Indy. So, uh, yeah, I'm
not a bit. I just want to kind of go
to bed, do my do, I watched some n A football,
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do my work and and kind of get a decent
night's sleep.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yeah, that is a that's a great story. Cheerleader Morgan.
I believe that'll be there.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
You go. You know more about it than I do.
We went to the hangar that we had a We
had a group party for everybody that covers Monday Night football,
from the pregame to the game. We had the whole place.
Pat Night came and I got He brought a couple
of bobbleheads of his dad and I've known Pat from
over the years. So the hangar was awesome. Last night.
(26:28):
We ran there after Michelle and I ate dinner and
spent a couple hours and it was great. But again,
came back watch the football game, went to bed.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Love it.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I love it. Sounds like an awesome time here in Indy.
We'll be looking forward to it tonight again. That Monday
Night a feature as well will be great to view.
Joe can't thank you enough, man, go Hoosiers, and we'll
certainly be listening watching tonight.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
All right, good, I appreciate it, guys, thanks for having
me on.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
That's a great Joe buck right there on the Payless
Liquors Hotline. Caleb will have that up on the podcast
sheet his time here. A little bit of a shift
around in the nine o'clock hour. With that, Caleb, let's
go ahead of break, we'll come back. We'll do a
little checkdown continue to preview tonight Colts and forty nine
Ers in week sixteen. Well, big thanks to Joe Buck
(27:16):
for that. Caleb will get it up on the podcast.
Really enjoyed that.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
If you missed it.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Voice of Monday Night Football, Joe Buck. Thank you certainly
to the hard work of Mark diked In for helping
set that up.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
And lo and behold.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
This man just couldn't get enough.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I mean again, we saw him in front of the
Governor's mansion on Friday morning. Mark from Munster is now
in studio after one of the greatest wins of his
Bears fandom. You just couldn't get enough. You had to
touch the mic today, did you not?
Speaker 4 (27:45):
You know the girls are still sleeping.
Speaker 8 (27:47):
I was like, I have Christmas presents to bring you, guys,
and they didn't come till this past weekends. It's like
I got to stop by anyway, and I was like, well,
Joe Buck's about to be on and I might as
well slide in and say hi and all that. So
I was like, okay, And just so happens that the
Bears up beat the Packers ass and it wasn't even
close on Saturday night, just a complete blowout. No stress whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
It was funny.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I couldn't see you in the producer's studio, but I
could tell Caleb was talking to somebody else in there.
And now looking back on it, I was half expecting
you to grab the mic and mister buck, this is
Mark from Munster. Can we talk a little bit about
the Bears from Saturday Night?
Speaker 4 (28:18):
I would have said, what's your favorite call you've ever had?
Speaker 8 (28:20):
I'm like, bias, my bias would have said the twenty
sixteen World Series game Game seven.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
With the comes, Yeah, certainly, But I.
Speaker 8 (28:28):
Was like, maybe his is like when Randy Moss mood
the moon lambeau Field.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I was going to say, he probably gets asked about
that a whohole lot, dude. I have a natural hatred
towards the Chicago Bears because when I went to IU,
it felt like every single kid in a five hour
radius of Chicago a said they were from Chicago, yep,
and then be the Bears were good back then, and
(28:53):
so I was just bitter. I was like, you know,
I don't like that all these Bears fans are celebrating.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
The Cubs are good.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I don't like that all these Cubs fans it's probably
is more of a reflection of how I am as
a human being.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
So I've had this disdain.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
For the bear, the petty one here and I know,
oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
But Mark Saturday night, that was impressive.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
I still and the Williams throw. I'm sure it's been
on the loop in your house.
Speaker 8 (29:14):
I still haven't fully grassed how exactly they pulled it
off and had that comeback. But it has been back
to back weeks where I've probably watched a DJ Moore
touchdown catch on loop like a thousand times, and then
my daughter's like, can you stop watching them?
Speaker 5 (29:26):
No?
Speaker 8 (29:26):
I can't. This is a core memory now, it's the
birth of you guys. And then that that ha has been.
What's going on in the order it changes, especially what
the elp. The elf didn't move today. I don't know
elf in the shelfies. She's moving around wherever she wants.
I can't project where she's going.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
She's been tired.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
Yeah, I'm currently looking at cheese greater hats on Etsy.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Oh that was glorious, So walk us through that. So
Caleb was rocking the cheese Greater Caleb Williams.
Speaker 8 (29:52):
Yeah, he was giving out food to like food banks
and everything like that. And DJ Moore was wearing the
cheese grater hat in the post game post locker room celebrate.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
It was great.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
That was great because he got a game ball understandably
and he was wearing She's Greater hat. And then the
next day Caleb was doing food deliveries for less Fortunate
and he was wearing a She's Greater hat as well
as he was handing that. I'm like, yes, more of that, please,
It's glorious.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
So it was Philip getting great up tonight.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
James, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (30:19):
I mean image I was listening to you guys on
the way in and just asking.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I agree, like he's going to probably get rid of
it quickly.
Speaker 8 (30:26):
He doesn't want anyone none of that forty nine ers
passwords but whatever that even looks like these days. But
I mean, I think, like you said, it's gonna be
like how Seattle played him more. They're gonna play him smart.
They're gonna know he's not gonna hold on to it.
So maybe drop guys back and just load the box
against Jonathan Taylor or something.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
That's got to be the plan there.
Speaker 8 (30:42):
But I don't love their chances again if they're going
to lose one of these next three, which it might
be all three, but if they're going to lose one,
it would be this one in the against the NFC opponent.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Well, and Joe Buck just said it to us.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
You know, the more intermediate throws, the more stuff down
the field.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
You know they're pretty adamant that that's going to be there.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
And is it now again on paper a team that
is dead last and sacks in a team that you
know's down their top corner, you feel like it could
be there. But can you get Alec.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Pierce involved please?
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Again?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Something?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
You know, I know you hate Rogers more than anyone,
but you watched that Pittsburgh game yesterday and he's got
a little bit more in the arm than Pike Rivers does,
but he I think gets we have got to try
and do some stuff down the field.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
They don't do a lot of it, but like the whole.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Kenneth Gamewell thing, you never know, right and you know
they take some shots to Metcalf when he's not in
the crowd.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
You know that aspect to it. I just feel like
it has to be attempted.
Speaker 8 (31:37):
You got to keep the opposing defense like respecting you
a little bit. So if you're just not even going
to attempt downfield. Thirs like, well, we don't even need
to do anything. We can just you know, stay back
and load the box against joonnh Tan Tailor and make
Philip Rivers try to beat us with his arm, which
we know isn't the strongest that it was five years ago.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
So it's gonna be a tough task.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
I don't know if you guys have major predictions yet
or whatever, but I have this unfortunately going as a
loss for the Colts again tonight.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
We should probably do that.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
On the other side, Mark from Munster in studio with
us here, we also probably need to do a morning checkdown.
Let's take a quick break, Caleb, we'll come back, we'll
give our picks, we'll do a little morning checkdown, made
a lead off next segment, and we'll do it one
final time.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
All right, Well, thanks to Joe Buck for joining us.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
That'll be up on the podcast, and we've had to
shift some things around here in the nine o'clock hour.
Let's go ahead with a morning checkdown tonight. It is
eight point fifteen inside of Loco Soil Stadium.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Five and a half point underdog the Colts in forty
nine Ers, James Boyd, your biggest key to the game
is what.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Can you contain Christian McCaffrey for the defensive purposes and offensively,
can you push the ball down the field a lot
more than you did against Seattle.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Pushing the ball down the field will have to occur
without their starting left and right tackle. That left tackle
Bernard Ryman, he was ruled out yesterday. Did practice actually
on Saturday, but he was out with that right elbow injury.
And then James defensively, no Sauce Gardner, but it will
be to force Buckner for the first time in a month.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Yeah, this is good news for their defensive line, which
is struggles to get after the quarterback. So perhaps even
if DeForrest Buckner isn't the guy getting the sack, he
can help spark the other guys to step up their game,
those being Latu latou Quiity Pay and a few more
I did mention.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
So it is a busy night of hoops as well,
I should say day and night of hoops here in
the Circle City.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
We'll start with the night action. This will be heard
on the fans.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
So if you want Colts forty nine ers tonight, that's
over on Hank FMR sister station ninety seven point one
Pacers at seven o'clock coverage will begin. That is in Boston.
They'll take on the Celtic. Celtics have been very good
here over the last ten games. I believe Jayalen Brown
is questionable due to an illness. Ten and a half
point favorite the Celtics. That Miles Turner back in the
(33:52):
building coming up tomorrow night, that is the Bucks without
Jannis Ancezekunpo.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
So back to back for the Pacers.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
College basketball wise, Butler and NJ it that is over
at Hinkle too o'clock that can be heard over on
Fuego Or.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Did you see the spread on that one? By the way,
did I see correctly thirty two?
Speaker 8 (34:12):
I think it's thirty one and a half. But yeah,
that's got to be one of the higher Butler spreads
of all time.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Right, James, you want to rethink what I said to
you earlier about potentially everyone in this building being a
better option being.
Speaker 7 (34:25):
I said, don't one again.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
You know what it is.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
It's height.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
It's always If you told me everyone was going to
go out there and be five foot ten, then yeah,
I feel confident about my ability.
Speaker 7 (34:32):
To compete with them. But no, I still don't think
that will end well for you.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Boy, that's probably fair bet.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
So again, Butler as they Kevin Bowen Height Northwestern there, Yeah,
I got your new bang in the post a little
bit here. They survived Northwestern at gamebridge Field House. Perdue
was all over all burned, very impressive. Another ranked win.
Another went away from home for the boiler Makers. So
both the Indiana schools get it done. Indie Classic Indiana
one over Chicago State Assembly Hall. They'll have Siena tonight
(35:01):
six o'clock, that is inside of Assembly Hall, Mark Dyke,
didn't you have any idea of the Sienna head coaches?
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Not a clue, couldn't even venture a guess.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Okay, Carmel Anthony won the national title at Syracuse, right,
m hmm. Do you remember the sharpshooter on that team?
I do not, just Jerry McNamara, Ringabell.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
I've heard the name.
Speaker 8 (35:22):
Yeah, I would not have guessed that he's the head
coach over.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
There, though, Jerry macnamara for Sienna's that's six o'clock inside
of Assembly Hall. And like we said earlier, my Christmas
has been ruined. Mark, what happened Oh, I think you
were tagged in a few tweets about it yesterday.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Oh I was.
Speaker 8 (35:39):
I I would say you didn't open the Christmas present,
so there could have been what I gave you.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
They might rethink that as well.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Did you see Notre Dame basketball?
Speaker 5 (35:46):
I did?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
They lose to four waying yesterday? Shout out to John
coffin the octaves in my voice. Don't see him and
goes highs when I talk about a Notre Dame basketball losses,
when I talk about some.
Speaker 8 (35:56):
Othersom season over, uh no, not even the National champions
over over.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
But you're gonna have to make up for it with
some very quality wins here in the AC.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
If he could volunteer to give his ankle to Marcus Burden,
he would have done it immediately.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Dude, ankle.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
I he wants to take a kid for a couple
of days as happily offer that give somebody what blood
cells to him to heal this up.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I'm glad to stop there.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Rosie could be a team player.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Last night in the Checkdown, the most impressive Thing Week
sixteen in the NFL and Mark go.
Speaker 8 (36:26):
Ahead Bears beat the Packers knock them down an impossible comeback.
I still don't fully grasp how that happened, but they
beat him on Saturday night, a big win for the Bears.
And then that, along with some help from Aaron Rodgers,
I hate to say, beating the Lions, have clinched the
Bears in the postseason. So they are currently the second
(36:47):
seed in the end of the state one seed. They
could get the one seed.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
They probably want the Colts to win tonight, right, Yeah,
that's probably true.
Speaker 8 (36:54):
So yeah, I mean, and the NFC West is crazy
because like everybody's talking about the Thursday night game between
the Ams and the Seahawks, like, well, the forty nine
ers still have a shot at getting the one seed
as well, which they have to be like one more
under the radar potential playoff.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Teams there is out there.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Yeah, so if they win out, So San Francisco clinched
a playoff berth yesterday based off all the results that happened,
But if they went out, they're the one seed, so
they definitely have a lot to play for as well tonight.
You know, Weirdly and James were talking about this all
morning long. It's kind of hard to like describe the
Colts game tonight Obviously it's important for them to win.
(37:28):
I don't want to lose sight of that, but they
technically still could make the playoffs even with a loss.
Now again, you need a slew of things to go
your way. But the only thing, unless I'm missing something,
I believe the only thing that can officially happen tonight
is if the Colts lose, the AFC South is over.
Speaker 7 (37:47):
For them, right, which in all reality probably already use.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, yeah, that was a long shot to begin with.
For them to win the South, they need to win out.
Have Houston lose to the Chargers next week. He can
have the Jags lose to the Titans in week eighteen,
which the Jacks are playing for something.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
You wouldn't think they would lose the Titans in week.
Speaker 7 (38:08):
Eight Hey, the Titans just beat the defending AFC champion.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
I had never heard of that dude that got in
the game for Gardner Minshew yesterday.
Speaker 7 (38:14):
Me either, me either.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
But honestly, that is probably what happens to ninety nine
percent of teams that lose your quarterback to a twenty ACL.
Speaker 7 (38:23):
And back to back weeks. I mean, when things went
down for the Chiefs, boy did they come down.
Speaker 9 (38:29):
I thought the biggest revelation of the weekend was that
Josh Johnson is still playing in the league. He's been
playing in the league for like fifteen years, and now
he's with the Commanders.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
I want to say former Colt Caleb's point, he's been
with like ten different franchises was like an NFL record.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
I think I think he was the backup the first
time Andrew Luck got hurt. He was Hasslebuck's backup. I
think here for a couple of weeks there, the first
time he got hurt. Elliott pointed out here that Philip
Rivers has never lost the forty nine ers.
Speaker 7 (38:57):
Yeah, I did.
Speaker 6 (38:58):
See that, But what about forty four year old Philip Rivers.
Can he turn back the clock one more time?
Speaker 8 (39:05):
Forty four year old Philip Rivers is still Philip Rivers,
So he's still at the moment undefeated.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
This is true.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
I do want to know again in his heart of
heart's like coming back. You got to make the playoffs.
I get all that, but you got to get at
least one one on the board. You can't tell your
kids one day I went back, I wasn't afraid, and
you lose every single game.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
You gotta get a.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Dub well, and he mentioned this after the Seattle game
in this past week. James, he's never experienced a full
Lucasol stadium. That is right the COVID year of course,
when he was here playing for the Colts. So he
will get a little bit of that to night. And
as we talked about with Joe Buck, first time Monday
night football is called Indie Home or any Colts game
(39:45):
in three years. I thought it was interesting. We had
Ross Talker on and Mark thank you for booking them.
Ross Talker on at eight thirty and he mentioned the
Riley Leonard thing, yeah, which I think was inter I
don't think nationally you've heard that thought too too much.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
And again that's more of the debate.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
We talked about this early in the show, the Anthony
Richardson debate. I don't think there's really any debate right now.
I think medically there are some major impairments with the vision.
To me, more of the debate right now is either
Philip Rivers or Riley Leondard. That's the more realistic debate.
And Ross Tucker, I don't want to put words in
his mouth, but he seemed to be I'd rather vote
(40:22):
for Riley Loondard, which is probably where I'm at too.
Speaker 6 (40:25):
At least early on he was, you know what, all
of us were kind of thinking that, Okay, even if
you bring Philip Rivers back. We were like, okay, you're
gonna put Riley Leonard out there. You're going on the
road to Seattle. Gonna be a hard game anyway. See
what your.
Speaker 7 (40:37):
Backup you've had on your roster looks like.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
But then on the flip side, as soon as Shane
opened his mouth about Philip Rivers the day they signed
him officially, which was that Wednesday, we all left that
press conference thinking, oh, there's no chance Riley starts.
Speaker 7 (40:55):
Rivers is the guy.
Speaker 6 (40:56):
That's how bullish Shane was that opening press conference.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
It's my entire respective on the situation. So that to
me is a big factor.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
How about Mark Dyton joining us on two of his
days off, Yeah, I got a question about this too.
Speaker 8 (41:08):
Sure Why I'm only home because they needed me to
take PTO. You didn't take it enough this year?
Speaker 4 (41:14):
Take more. I'm like, okay, I will.
Speaker 7 (41:16):
That's PTO man, right there.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
So they're out your PTO excursions excursion lions.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
Yeah, you know what, there we go wait to open
those bags.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
Has Has Santa finished his shopping for all of your children?
Speaker 7 (41:31):
You and Kevin?
Speaker 4 (41:31):
Are you done?
Speaker 7 (41:32):
Yes? Is Santa done? Are you telling him?
Speaker 5 (41:34):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Are done?
Speaker 7 (41:36):
I believe I was gonna ask about the elves too.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
I believe the elves are done.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
I believe Santa's good and boy Santa might be in
a in a white beater coming up on Thursday with
how this weather is looking? Okay, okay, imagine how much
Santa's gonna be sweating his.
Speaker 8 (41:47):
Assida's broke now or something like that. Santa's shaking, the
shaking the can seeming to go on to two piece
to be flying around in the world.
Speaker 7 (41:55):
So Santa's broke now right, just just got it?
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Got it?
Speaker 7 (41:57):
I just didn't know how how last minute this.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Can and kins, Speaking of last minute, we got about
a minute left.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Caleb Zuber what he got? Forty nine ers five and
a half point favorite for tonight's.
Speaker 9 (42:06):
I'm saying forty nine ers, twenty seven colts seventeen.
Speaker 7 (42:11):
James Boyd forty nine ers twenty seven colts twenty.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
Four twenty seven to seventeen nine ers.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
You guys a little bit more high scoring than I am.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
I do like the Colts taking the points here, I
will go twenty three nineteen Niners. James, You've hit this
quite often this morning. Tackling Christian McCaffrey makes me sweat.
Imagining the Colts tackling.
Speaker 6 (42:35):
I'm just picturing him lined up against any linebacker on
the Colts roster and shuddering at the fact that he's
going to catch it and wiggle and get ten yards
pretty much every time.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Again, on paper, there is a lot I think you
could potentially do offensively, granted, giving your personnel, we'll see.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
Mark.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
We are not talking to you tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
Take Christmas.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Merry Christmas to you, to the girls, Thank you for
stopping and thank you for booking. Ross Tucker and Joe
Buck both those up on the podcast. It'll be us
three again tomorrow. Caleb Zuver, great great work behind the glass.
James Boyd and Kevin Bowen. We will be with you again.
Reminder Hank FM tonight for the Colts game on these airwaves.
It'll be the Pacers in action. Everybody, have a great
(43:15):
Monday night football.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
Monday
You're listening to the best of the Fan morning show
on ninety three five and one oh seven five The
Fan All.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Right, lessen twenty four hours from now, twenty four less
than twelve hours from now, inside of Lucas Oil Stadium.
For the first time in three years, the Colts play
Monday night football game. It will be Colts and forty
nine ers. Believe the spread settling in at five and
a half for San Francisco and on the Westwood One.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Call, we head of the Payloss Liquors Hotline.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
He's the host of the Ross Tucker Football podcast and
you can follow him over on Twitter at Ross Tucker NFL.
He's one of our favorites. Always enjoy chatting with him,
and he will call Lucas Oil Stadium home tonight. He
is Ross Tucker.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Ross.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Good morning to you. Hopefully you have some safe travels
here to Indy.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
Yeah, I'm here. Good morning to you guys as well.
I did the Jets and the Saints yesterday for CBS,
so it took me a little bit of time to
get here from New Orleans. But I'm here. Just hit
up the hotel restaurant and I'm ready to go.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Your level of shock.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
If I would have told you two weeks ago, hey,
that Monday night game in Indie, it'll be Philip Rivers.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
You're talking about a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
You know, it really hadn't even occurred to me, hadn't
thought of it. And I just must say personally, really
really disappointed for Daniel Jones and all of the Colts.
I called their game runner in the year for CBS
against Tennessee and they were really rolling. I was a
firm believer that they were one of the best teams
(01:36):
in football, and very very excited about the marriage between
Daniel Jones and Shane Stiken and how well that had
been going. And just kind of really bummed out about
everything that happened. Kind of started, I think with the
cracked fibula for Daniel, and then obviously was what happened
(01:57):
with the torn achilles. You know, Philip Rivers wasn't really
on my radar. It's kind of crazy if you think
about listen to this sentence. Okay, the Colts signed a
forty four year old quarterback who hasn't played football in
five years because their starting quarterback who was playing with
(02:19):
the broken leg towards Achilles and the backup quarterback fractured
his eyebones with a rubber band before a game. I
mean that if that was in a movie, I don't
think you'd even believe it. And yet that's basically what
happened to the Colts and it's extremely unfortunate.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
Yeah, I think you hit right on the head there,
Ross with a lot of the circumstances that led to
Rivers coming out of retirement and joining the Colts. But
how much of it do you think is just beyond
the movie aspect of it, because there is a certain
level of whow the old guys doing it to?
Speaker 7 (02:54):
You got to win games.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
So when you're analyzing this team, how do you think
Rivers can potentially help him keep their playoff hopes alive
with the win tonight against the forty nine Ers.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Well, I do think that he gave them a chance
to win against Seattle. I am really curious to see
how the Niners play them tonight because he did not
try to drive the ball down the field very much
at all, and when he did it was not effective.
(03:26):
The Niners themselves don't have a very good rush. But
I don't think you want to blitz Philip because he
knows where to go with the football. You know, you're
not going to get to him. You're not going to
let you hit him if you try to blitz them.
So this could be a truly unique game and in
which the Niners are either you know, playing breast man
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and trying not to go up anything underneath. I actually
think they're going to play a bunch of super condensed
zone where everything is pushed up and they're basically daring
Philip Rivers to try to throw it. You know, now
that you've got a full game of hate back on film.
That's the part that I think is really cool is
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to kind of see what ends up happening now now
that they've seen what he can or cannot do. I
do think he'll give them a chance to win again.
But the Niners offense is really good. I thought that
was one of the big takeaways I had from the
Colts Seahawks game is Seorks defense played well. I mean,
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Seeks defense cave him a chance to win. And now
you get Buckner back. I thought Buckner would be done
for the year. He is a difference making player. He's
a you know, top two or three most important player
on the Colts team. So to get him back tonight
is massive and that's.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
A voice of Ross Tucker.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I hear him on the Ross Tucker podcast, here, him
everywhere CBS.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
He's done some Colts games this year.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
He'll be on the west Wood One Call tonight over
on Twitter at Ross Tucker NFL. It's funny you say
that because I was talking with a NFL assistant on
another team and he said, if he was facing Rivers,
he would just drop eight.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Do you kind of view that general thought?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I mean you mentioned condense that zone a little bit there,
because yes, you obviously manage the game great in Seattle,
but you know, I think we all can look at
that and say that's not an offense that's sustainable over
the course of however long you need him.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
You know, I don't think that I'm going to Yeah,
I don't think I would say necessarily drop eight. But
that's interesting because you know he doesn't have that strong
of an arm. So you sit there and you think about,
you know, just how much he'll have to be able
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to put it ball into a window. If you drop eight,
that's you know, I might steal that and use that tonight.
That's certainly a possibility. I'd probably still rush for to
try to get somebody at him eventually or at some point.
But I do think you know, dropping eight is a
real possibility. The point will be make him throw it
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deeper down the field. I think you guys would probably
talked Dad and knowledge about the statistics of the throwers
that were more than ten yards in the air. That's
number one and then number two. Really make sure that
he has to drive the ball into small window. So
drop eight stone coverage and really you know, get close
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to sticky coverage on the underneath, guys, and see if
he can see if he can do it, see if
you can fire a ball in there. There's a real
chance he throws a few picks tonight because he's going
to try to fit the ball in there. I mean,
he didn't come back from retirement to be throwing the
ball away all night.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Ross.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
How quickly did you perhaps pivot to the idea of
him playing again when the news broke, because at first
it was you know, practice squad, tryout. He knows Roley
Leonard very well. But as you said, he didn't come
back to hold a clipboard. So how quickly did you
wrap your mind around that? And I mean, I don't
want to gloss over it. If he wins tonight, he
would be only the third quarterback in the history of
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the sport to win a game at age forty four
or older.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Well, I kind of thought, and maybe this was selfish
of me because I'm calling the game tonight, but I
kind of thought they might see what Riley could do.
In the first game, you know, against Seattle. I know
Riley was a little bit banged up, but I kind
of thought they might give Riley a spin with a
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full week of practice, getting all of the reps and
having the whole game plan designed around his skill set.
Because Riley's I think, pretty good and he can run.
So I kind of thought they would give Rivers a
little more time to get acclimated and give Riley one
chance to see what he can do. You know, it's
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almost like I'm not saying he's Malik Willis, but you know,
when the Packers have had to play Malik Willis, Lafour
like totally changes his game plan. Malik runs a lot,
and the Packers have won. You know, they've won several
games Malik Willis. I thought Steichen might sort of dip
(08:20):
into the Jalen Hurts twenty twenty one game plan, have
Riley run a bunch and use those legs and end
up having success as a result and potentially winning. I
guess the concern there is, you know, Riley gets hurt
and you're in trouble. But I thought they would give
Riley one game with all of the reps in practice
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during the week, but they elected not to.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah, definitely debate we have had here in the all right,
Ross last one for me and again hosts of the
Ross Tucker podcasting follow him at Ross Tucker NFL and
you'll hear him tonight on the Westwood One calls Kevin
Harlan here on Monday Night Football. Going back, that's what
you said a little bit earlier in the conversation about
Daniel Jones about how this team was looking pre injury.
(09:06):
Are you under the belief or think the Colts should
operate in a bring everybody back, including Daniel Jones for
twenty twenty six?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I am. I am.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Now that's not to say that there shouldn't be some tweaks,
but I honestly think they have a really good team.
You know, I don't look at Denver or New England
and think that they're way ahead of the Colts. I
don't even think they're ahead of the Colts at all.
You know, if Buckner doesn't get hurt, if Garter doesn't
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get hurt. And I know that every team has injuries,
but there are certain guys that are game changing players.
There's only three or four on a team, maybe five.
And you know, obviously we'll see you about Sauce Gardner,
but the Colts think he is. Buckner definitely is, and
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the starting quarterback is, which, by the way, is one
thing that makes what the Niners have done this year
even more impressive because I would tell you that Nick
Bosa and Fred Warner are those guys. They are game
changing players. You know, they're two of the top twenty
defensive players in the NFL, certainly the two best defensive
players for the forty nine ers. So the fact that
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the forty Niners are even in this position says a
lot about them. But yeah, I would try to keep
the band together as much as possible with Daniel Jones
and the Colts, you know, assuming you'd be able to
come back to help. I think it's better than whatever
other alternatives would be out there.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
All right, Ross it is the holiday season typically you're
saving us from a present standpoint. Have you got something
cooked up here around Christmas?
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Well, it's funny because I usually tell you guys about
myfront pig story dot com, which is incredible to give
to like a loved one, your wife or whatever, just
an incredible, incredible gift. But recently found out about futurefans
dot com. And I don't know if either one of
you guys has kids, but it's different than it was
when we were growing up. I mean, it is really
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hard to get young kids to sit and watch a
whole football game, you know, for you guys, whether it's
the Hoosiers or the Colts, they want to be on
their iPad, they want to be doing a million other things.
These guys at futurefans dot com have really cracked the code,
and so think about being able to give your child
(11:31):
a gift for Christmas or whatever that you're giving it
to them. I think it's sixty bucks, but with the
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to yourself. Because if they'll sit there and watch every
IU game and every Colts game with you for years,
that's probably the best gift you could ever get your son,
your daughter, grandson, granddaughter, niece, nephew. I actually invest in
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they all said it worked. I'm like, Okay, that's good
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So it's Futurefans dot Com. These guys are geniuses. A
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(12:16):
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really really cool.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
And you're gonna hear Ross tonight him Kevin Harlan Westwood
one Monday Night Football.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Ross, great work all year long.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I know you're super busy, man, so thanks for making
time with us.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
My pleasure. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Ross Tucker, pay Less Slickers, Hotline Again, hosts of the
Ross Tucker Podcast at Ross Tucker NFL. You know the
drop eight idea, James that I kind of threw Ross's
way against Rivers. I think the thought there is he
is so cognizant of getting the ball out quick, you know,
think a little hot potato e that it really doesn't
matter how much you rush him per se like.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
Because you won't get there, well.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
You won't get there, and he's not dumb enough to
hold on to it, like, he's not going to try
to extend. He's he knows his internal clock, he knows
has got to get the ball out here.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
Wait for a guy who's played as much as he has,
he's rarely taken a lot of sacks in his career.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, so he's not three four second. So it's like, yes,
a pass rush could aid, but even if it doesn't
get home, he knows what that clock is in his head,
so he might naturally just get rid of it, even
if the pocket isn't necessarily collapsing around him.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
So I think it's a really interesting thought.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Again, on paper, the San Francisco defense is one of
the more vanilla defenses in the entire NFL. Gus Bradley
on that staff there with Robert Sala as their coordinator,
So definitely something to keep an eye on as we
continue to look ahead to tonight. It is Colts, it
is forty nine ers a half hour from now. Joe
Buck is going to join us right here on the
Fan Morning Show, Kevin Bow and James Boyd, Caleb zuover,
(13:45):
thanks for spending this Monday with us. All right, let's
head to the Payloff Liquors hotline right now. He is
the voice of Monday night football maybe to our market though,
and he might like this unapologetic Indiana football fan. That
is how I'll introduce Joe Buck here on this Monday morning. Joe,
thank you so much for the time. Good morning to you, man.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I come on, we got to represent for those of
us who who are who's your fans? I just I
can't get enough. I'm obsessed. I can't act like I've
been a diehard since I walked off the campus way
back in the roaring nineties, but for the last couple
of years, my god, it's just been a blast. So
(14:26):
thanks thanks for having me on. And yeah, I make
no apologies. So I was got so tired of hearing
from my UCLA partner and my friends who went to
Notre Dame and Alabama parents, and let's go. We finally
get to puff our chest out a little bit. It's nice.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Honestly, I think the weekly excitement level for me is
just waiting for you to needle Troy at some point
about the current college football landscape between Indiana and UCLA.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Well, I didn't even the game against UCLA was such
a joke and such a blowout this year that I
did and even bring it up. We were believe me.
We run a text chain and Troy, to his credit
and it's true, has has kind of flipped his allegiance.
He just loves good coaching, and I think he's recognized
what coach Signetti has done and he's kind of flipped
(15:17):
his attention and his heart over to Indiana during this
little run. So I it was it was low hanging fruit,
so I just left it alone after they took it
to UCLA. But yeah, I can't wait. I can't wait
for this weekend and what's to come At the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 7 (15:36):
We have Joe buck on the line.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
And again, for as great as the vibes are with IU,
I would say it's probably the opposite for the Colts
right now. Joe, what was your reaction when Philip Rivers
came out of retirement and how quickly did you have
to accept that it is reality that he's trying to
do this with the struggling team. Be the third forty
four year old quarterback or olders win a game of
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the NFL.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yeah, you know, I guess for TV's sake and for
our narrative that we get to go into the game.
I was like, hell, yeah, let's go. We we we've
got interest in you know, it's just such a shame
what happened with Daniel Jones. And I do think the
leg and the fracture was clearly bothering him before the
Achilles went. So yeah, it's it's heartbreaking. And I've been
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there for so many of the games with the Giants
over the years for him and to finally see him
have his moment in this league with a really good team,
and I really do believe the Cults are a good,
good ball club and then to have that happen was awful.
And then the question is, okay, who's taken over? And
for us and TV it becomes a fun storyline and
(16:50):
and I know people around here and the ratings were
crazy for the game last week, and it was a
great game and they almost pulled it off. I do
know that after talking to Kyle Shanahan, he won one
hundred percent genuinely believes that Philip Rivers can get this done.
(17:12):
And you know, it was it was on the table
for him. To join the forty nine ers a few
years ago, and Brock Purdy took over and ended up
getting injured in the NFC champ game. There's a lot
of respect in this league for Philip Rivers, maybe more
than I was even aware of before this, before this
latest turn in his career. But you know, we can
(17:34):
talk about it, but we talked to him. He feels
really good. I think he feels better this week than
he did last. And I give the Colts a real
chance to win this game tonight and have a chance
to get into the postseason with kind of this crazy
storyline going on at Voice.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Needs no introduction, Joe Buck, you'll hear him, of course.
Tonight it is Monday Night football. For the first time
in three years, the Colts all beyond it, Cults and
forty nine Ers over at Lucas Oil Stadium.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Joe, let's hit that maybe a little bit more.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
It seems like the Colts all week long have been
pretty optimistic that the game plan in Seattle was just,
you know, break glass in case of emergency. They feel
like there's more there with this passing offense, maybe more
there with even the right arm of Philip Rivers is
that the vibe that you got in speaking with them completely.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
And I'll tell you this, Philip is nothing if not honest,
and he was very open about how he felt last week.
He was shocked at how his body felt on Monday,
in the good sense that he woke up and he thought,
you know, it was going to be brutal. Just get
into the bathroom in the morning, and he said, you know,
(18:46):
I had some mumps and bruises, but I felt better
than I thought I would. The one thing that he
said that you can't really replicate. You know, you can run,
you can put the pads on, you can guests, try
to get the legs in shape. But for what his
shoulder went through in that game, I think he came
out of that game pretty sore. In that regard. Talking
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to the forty nine ers, they say, you know, you
can see that the mind is good, you can see
that the arm is gonna be good. He's always kind
of had this funky delivery. The question is the legs
and the game shape of the legs, And so the
forty nine ers are going to try to get him moving.
And you know, if you're gonna face any team, this
is a forty nine er team that has an inside
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track on the number one seed, and they're dead last
in the league in sacks. Their pass rush has not
been good this year, and you know, maybe that plays
into the Colts hands tonight and exactly what Philip Rivers needs.
But I believe that as far as the game plan,
Philip said, you're gonna see more intermediate throws. You're gonna
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see more stuff down the field. He goes, am I
going to roll to my right and throw a ball
sixty yards? No, but you know I didn't do that before.
You're going to see I think more down the field though,
than you saw compared to the game in Seattle, which
was a lot of stuff around the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
Again, we have Joe buck on the Payoff Sickers hotline.
You'll hear his voice tonight on Monday Night Football, Joe
pivoting back to the college scene, IU has done what
many to believe has been the impossible the last two years,
going from nothing to a whole lot of something here
lately with a chance to try to contend for a
national championship. So for you, as someone who attended that university,
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when did you become a believer and coach Signetti, and
how quickly did you have to adapt your expectations to his?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
First of all, you said it perfectly right, because I
did not graduate. I walked after three and a half
years to do the cardinals. I was like, well, I
can either stay in school and hope someday to get
the cardinal job, or I can take the cardinal job.
And I opted for thanks to nepotism option B. So
(21:03):
I took the cardinal job obviously. Dear friends with I
mean best friends with so many guys that you know,
we're in my fraternity there at IU and which was
Sigma Nu in in case you're wondering, and and so
we're on this gigantic text chain. I think I think
they kind of talked me into it. You could feel
(21:25):
it brewin last year. But I think any of us
who've been fans over the years, you get teased into you.
We got teased into thinking that it was legit. And
they seem to always play or at times play some
of the bigger programs really tight, and then they would
lose the game, and it was like, I mean, we
are we ever going to get over the hump? And
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and I think it it changed last year when when
you know they they looked better. I think the eye
test with the way they look is just different. And yeah,
they lost to Ohio State. Last year they lost in
the College Football Playoff, but it just felt different. And
then this year, I think we can all agree that
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in the past the game at Penn State, the catch
was insane, but in years past he would have been
out of bounds, but this year he was inbounds. You know,
the game at Oregon, that's the game that IU doesn't
win in the past. And then I think I think
(22:30):
even in the Ohio State game, everybody I did a
podcast with a guy, Jimmy Trayna, who covers the business
that I'm in, and he's like, yeah, but that game
didn't mean anything. And to me, I said, it meant
less to Ohio State, but it meant a lot to Indiana.
And the fan base is one thing. But I think
the team to say, well, we can beat Ohio State.
(22:50):
We just did and we dominated them defensively. I think
that all of that goes into giving all of us
a real feel that they're good enough to win the
whole thing. Alabama scares me. I'm not gonna lie because
of their pedigree and because of their size and their athleticism.
But you know, I think Indiana probably scares them and
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and I don't think I've ever been able to say
that in the past their favorite for a reason.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
It's truly an unbelievable comment.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Now, when you were in Bloomington, that was actually, I mean,
that was some Mallory years, was it not?
Speaker 5 (23:25):
It was.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I mean, I'm basically the same age as Trent Green.
He was in mcnut dorm a year ahead of me,
and then I was McNutt And yeah, we were. I
mean back in the day. We would go to the
games and they were fun and Anthony Thompson and Trent
Green and Mallory and it was it was a good
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time to be an IU fan. I traveled went to
a game in Michigan State. They took on Lorenzo White.
It was it was a fun time in the Big
ten two. But then it kind of dipped down. And
then my daughter went there and I would visit her
and we would tailgate and then I'm like, all right,
it's game time, and she's like, oh, yeah, nobody goes
into the game. We just go home. I'm like, what
(24:11):
don't we tailgate? But we go home, we don't go
into the game.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Always win the toilgate.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, But then I made her go in.
I'm like, no, we're going inside the stadium. We're going there,
and now you can't get into place, and it's it's
it's just great. But you're right. I mean, the late
eighties early nineties was a decent time to be an
IU fan, but it was it was nothing like this.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Well end with this, Joe, And again, we can't think
enough of the time here on what is a busy Monday.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
It's been a while.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Since Monday night football is called Indie Hall unless it's
been three years. Yeah, three years? Right, did you start?
I'm trying to think when did you come over to ESPN?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Uh first year? Was this is our fourth year? So
we were here, I guess.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah, so it's charge. I think it was Chargers and
Steelers late in the year. They actually had a couple
Monday nighters with Matt Ryan.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah and yeah, yeah, yeah, we did those games. We
did those games. We were here.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Was there any any staple for you last night? Did
you did you have dinner anywhere? Is there any I know,
maybe you're not in town for the combine I'm trying
to think of what other events you would have been
to Indy here.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
A lot of my friends are Colts fans, uh in
Saint Louis, So I brought three friends. They went to
Saint Elmo's my wife and I. My wife does Monday
and Night Countdown has a really great feature tonight, uh
with a little boy who's been through a lot and
uh a special relationship with one of the Colts cheerleaders
who signs, uh you can't hear, signs the national anthem
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to him and talks to him and has this great
relationship with him. It's a beautiful piece. She and I
just dated the Cap Grill here in the hotel, and
then I'm going to have lunch today at the Cap
Grill here in the hotel with a couple of fraternity
buddies that work here in Indy. So, uh, yeah, I'm
not a bit. I just want to kind of go
to bed, do my do, I watched some n A football,
(26:00):
do my work and and kind of get a decent
night's sleep.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yeah, that is a that's a great story. Cheerleader Morgan.
I believe that'll be there.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
You go. You know more about it than I do.
We went to the hangar that we had a We
had a group party for everybody that covers Monday Night football,
from the pregame to the game. We had the whole place.
Pat Night came and I got He brought a couple
of bobbleheads of his dad and I've known Pat from
over the years. So the hangar was awesome. Last night.
(26:28):
We ran there after Michelle and I ate dinner and
spent a couple hours and it was great. But again,
came back watch the football game, went to bed.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Love it.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I love it. Sounds like an awesome time here in Indy.
We'll be looking forward to it tonight again. That Monday
Night a feature as well will be great to view.
Joe can't thank you enough, man, go Hoosiers, and we'll
certainly be listening watching tonight.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
All right, good, I appreciate it, guys, thanks for having
me on.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
That's a great Joe buck right there on the Payless
Liquors Hotline. Caleb will have that up on the podcast
sheet his time here. A little bit of a shift
around in the nine o'clock hour. With that, Caleb, let's
go ahead of break, we'll come back. We'll do a
little checkdown continue to preview tonight Colts and forty nine
Ers in week sixteen. Well, big thanks to Joe Buck
(27:16):
for that. Caleb will get it up on the podcast.
Really enjoyed that.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
If you missed it.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Voice of Monday Night Football, Joe Buck. Thank you certainly
to the hard work of Mark diked In for helping
set that up.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
And lo and behold.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
This man just couldn't get enough.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I mean again, we saw him in front of the
Governor's mansion on Friday morning. Mark from Munster is now
in studio after one of the greatest wins of his
Bears fandom. You just couldn't get enough. You had to
touch the mic today, did you not?
Speaker 4 (27:45):
You know the girls are still sleeping.
Speaker 8 (27:47):
I was like, I have Christmas presents to bring you, guys,
and they didn't come till this past weekends. It's like
I got to stop by anyway, and I was like, well,
Joe Buck's about to be on and I might as
well slide in and say hi and all that. So
I was like, okay, And just so happens that the
Bears up beat the Packers ass and it wasn't even
close on Saturday night, just a complete blowout. No stress whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
It was funny.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I couldn't see you in the producer's studio, but I
could tell Caleb was talking to somebody else in there.
And now looking back on it, I was half expecting
you to grab the mic and mister buck, this is
Mark from Munster. Can we talk a little bit about
the Bears from Saturday Night?
Speaker 4 (28:18):
I would have said, what's your favorite call you've ever had?
Speaker 8 (28:20):
I'm like, bias, my bias would have said the twenty
sixteen World Series game Game seven.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
With the comes, Yeah, certainly, But I.
Speaker 8 (28:28):
Was like, maybe his is like when Randy Moss mood
the moon lambeau Field.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I was going to say, he probably gets asked about
that a whohole lot, dude. I have a natural hatred
towards the Chicago Bears because when I went to IU,
it felt like every single kid in a five hour
radius of Chicago a said they were from Chicago, yep,
and then be the Bears were good back then, and
(28:53):
so I was just bitter. I was like, you know,
I don't like that all these Bears fans are celebrating.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
The Cubs are good.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I don't like that all these Cubs fans it's probably
is more of a reflection of how I am as
a human being.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
So I've had this disdain.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
For the bear, the petty one here and I know,
oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
But Mark Saturday night, that was impressive.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
I still and the Williams throw. I'm sure it's been
on the loop in your house.
Speaker 8 (29:14):
I still haven't fully grassed how exactly they pulled it
off and had that comeback. But it has been back
to back weeks where I've probably watched a DJ Moore
touchdown catch on loop like a thousand times, and then
my daughter's like, can you stop watching them?
Speaker 5 (29:26):
No?
Speaker 8 (29:26):
I can't. This is a core memory now, it's the
birth of you guys. And then that that ha has been.
What's going on in the order it changes, especially what
the elp. The elf didn't move today. I don't know
elf in the shelfies. She's moving around wherever she wants.
I can't project where she's going.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
She's been tired.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
Yeah, I'm currently looking at cheese greater hats on Etsy.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Oh that was glorious, So walk us through that. So
Caleb was rocking the cheese Greater Caleb Williams.
Speaker 8 (29:52):
Yeah, he was giving out food to like food banks
and everything like that. And DJ Moore was wearing the
cheese grater hat in the post game post locker room celebrate.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
It was great.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
That was great because he got a game ball understandably
and he was wearing She's Greater hat. And then the
next day Caleb was doing food deliveries for less Fortunate
and he was wearing a She's Greater hat as well
as he was handing that. I'm like, yes, more of that, please,
It's glorious.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
So it was Philip getting great up tonight.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
James, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (30:19):
I mean image I was listening to you guys on
the way in and just asking.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I agree, like he's going to probably get rid of
it quickly.
Speaker 8 (30:26):
He doesn't want anyone none of that forty nine ers
passwords but whatever that even looks like these days. But
I mean, I think, like you said, it's gonna be
like how Seattle played him more. They're gonna play him smart.
They're gonna know he's not gonna hold on to it.
So maybe drop guys back and just load the box
against Jonathan Taylor or something.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
That's got to be the plan there.
Speaker 8 (30:42):
But I don't love their chances again if they're going
to lose one of these next three, which it might
be all three, but if they're going to lose one,
it would be this one in the against the NFC opponent.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Well, and Joe Buck just said it to us.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
You know, the more intermediate throws, the more stuff down
the field.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
You know they're pretty adamant that that's going to be there.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
And is it now again on paper a team that
is dead last and sacks in a team that you
know's down their top corner, you feel like it could
be there. But can you get Alec.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Pierce involved please?
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Again?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Something?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
You know, I know you hate Rogers more than anyone,
but you watched that Pittsburgh game yesterday and he's got
a little bit more in the arm than Pike Rivers does,
but he I think gets we have got to try
and do some stuff down the field.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
They don't do a lot of it, but like the whole.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Kenneth Gamewell thing, you never know, right and you know
they take some shots to Metcalf when he's not in
the crowd.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
You know that aspect to it. I just feel like
it has to be attempted.
Speaker 8 (31:37):
You got to keep the opposing defense like respecting you
a little bit. So if you're just not even going
to attempt downfield. Thirs like, well, we don't even need
to do anything. We can just you know, stay back
and load the box against joonnh Tan Tailor and make
Philip Rivers try to beat us with his arm, which
we know isn't the strongest that it was five years ago.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
So it's gonna be a tough task.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
I don't know if you guys have major predictions yet
or whatever, but I have this unfortunately going as a
loss for the Colts again tonight.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
We should probably do that.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
On the other side, Mark from Munster in studio with
us here, we also probably need to do a morning checkdown.
Let's take a quick break, Caleb, we'll come back, we'll
give our picks, we'll do a little morning checkdown, made
a lead off next segment, and we'll do it one
final time.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
All right, Well, thanks to Joe Buck for joining us.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
That'll be up on the podcast, and we've had to
shift some things around here in the nine o'clock hour.
Let's go ahead with a morning checkdown tonight. It is
eight point fifteen inside of Loco Soil Stadium.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Five and a half point underdog the Colts in forty
nine Ers, James Boyd, your biggest key to the game
is what.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Can you contain Christian McCaffrey for the defensive purposes and offensively,
can you push the ball down the field a lot
more than you did against Seattle.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Pushing the ball down the field will have to occur
without their starting left and right tackle. That left tackle
Bernard Ryman, he was ruled out yesterday. Did practice actually
on Saturday, but he was out with that right elbow injury.
And then James defensively, no Sauce Gardner, but it will
be to force Buckner for the first time in a month.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Yeah, this is good news for their defensive line, which
is struggles to get after the quarterback. So perhaps even
if DeForrest Buckner isn't the guy getting the sack, he
can help spark the other guys to step up their game,
those being Latu latou Quiity Pay and a few more
I did mention.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
So it is a busy night of hoops as well,
I should say day and night of hoops here in
the Circle City.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
We'll start with the night action. This will be heard
on the fans.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
So if you want Colts forty nine ers tonight, that's
over on Hank FMR sister station ninety seven point one
Pacers at seven o'clock coverage will begin. That is in Boston.
They'll take on the Celtic. Celtics have been very good
here over the last ten games. I believe Jayalen Brown
is questionable due to an illness. Ten and a half
point favorite the Celtics. That Miles Turner back in the
(33:52):
building coming up tomorrow night, that is the Bucks without
Jannis Ancezekunpo.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
So back to back for the Pacers.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
College basketball wise, Butler and NJ it that is over
at Hinkle too o'clock that can be heard over on
Fuego Or.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Did you see the spread on that one? By the way,
did I see correctly thirty two?
Speaker 8 (34:12):
I think it's thirty one and a half. But yeah,
that's got to be one of the higher Butler spreads
of all time.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Right, James, you want to rethink what I said to
you earlier about potentially everyone in this building being a
better option being.
Speaker 7 (34:25):
I said, don't one again.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
You know what it is.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
It's height.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
It's always If you told me everyone was going to
go out there and be five foot ten, then yeah,
I feel confident about my ability.
Speaker 7 (34:32):
To compete with them. But no, I still don't think
that will end well for you.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Boy, that's probably fair bet.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
So again, Butler as they Kevin Bowen Height Northwestern there, Yeah,
I got your new bang in the post a little
bit here. They survived Northwestern at gamebridge Field House. Perdue
was all over all burned, very impressive. Another ranked win.
Another went away from home for the boiler Makers. So
both the Indiana schools get it done. Indie Classic Indiana
one over Chicago State Assembly Hall. They'll have Siena tonight
(35:01):
six o'clock, that is inside of Assembly Hall, Mark Dyke,
didn't you have any idea of the Sienna head coaches?
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Not a clue, couldn't even venture a guess.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Okay, Carmel Anthony won the national title at Syracuse, right,
m hmm. Do you remember the sharpshooter on that team?
I do not, just Jerry McNamara, Ringabell.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
I've heard the name.
Speaker 8 (35:22):
Yeah, I would not have guessed that he's the head
coach over.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
There, though, Jerry macnamara for Sienna's that's six o'clock inside
of Assembly Hall. And like we said earlier, my Christmas
has been ruined. Mark, what happened Oh, I think you
were tagged in a few tweets about it yesterday.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Oh I was.
Speaker 8 (35:39):
I I would say you didn't open the Christmas present,
so there could have been what I gave you.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
They might rethink that as well.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Did you see Notre Dame basketball?
Speaker 5 (35:46):
I did?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
They lose to four waying yesterday? Shout out to John
coffin the octaves in my voice. Don't see him and
goes highs when I talk about a Notre Dame basketball losses,
when I talk about some.
Speaker 8 (35:56):
Othersom season over, uh no, not even the National champions
over over.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
But you're gonna have to make up for it with
some very quality wins here in the AC.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
If he could volunteer to give his ankle to Marcus Burden,
he would have done it immediately.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Dude, ankle.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
I he wants to take a kid for a couple
of days as happily offer that give somebody what blood
cells to him to heal this up.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I'm glad to stop there.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Rosie could be a team player.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Last night in the Checkdown, the most impressive Thing Week
sixteen in the NFL and Mark go.
Speaker 8 (36:26):
Ahead Bears beat the Packers knock them down an impossible comeback.
I still don't fully grasp how that happened, but they
beat him on Saturday night, a big win for the Bears.
And then that, along with some help from Aaron Rodgers,
I hate to say, beating the Lions, have clinched the
Bears in the postseason. So they are currently the second
(36:47):
seed in the end of the state one seed. They
could get the one seed.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
They probably want the Colts to win tonight, right, Yeah,
that's probably true.
Speaker 8 (36:54):
So yeah, I mean, and the NFC West is crazy
because like everybody's talking about the Thursday night game between
the Ams and the Seahawks, like, well, the forty nine
ers still have a shot at getting the one seed
as well, which they have to be like one more
under the radar potential playoff.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Teams there is out there.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Yeah, so if they win out, So San Francisco clinched
a playoff berth yesterday based off all the results that happened,
But if they went out, they're the one seed, so
they definitely have a lot to play for as well tonight.
You know, Weirdly and James were talking about this all
morning long. It's kind of hard to like describe the
Colts game tonight Obviously it's important for them to win.
(37:28):
I don't want to lose sight of that, but they
technically still could make the playoffs even with a loss.
Now again, you need a slew of things to go
your way. But the only thing, unless I'm missing something,
I believe the only thing that can officially happen tonight
is if the Colts lose, the AFC South is over.
Speaker 7 (37:47):
For them, right, which in all reality probably already use.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, yeah, that was a long shot to begin with.
For them to win the South, they need to win out.
Have Houston lose to the Chargers next week. He can
have the Jags lose to the Titans in week eighteen,
which the Jacks are playing for something.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
You wouldn't think they would lose the Titans in week.
Speaker 7 (38:08):
Eight Hey, the Titans just beat the defending AFC champion.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
I had never heard of that dude that got in
the game for Gardner Minshew yesterday.
Speaker 7 (38:14):
Me either, me either.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
But honestly, that is probably what happens to ninety nine
percent of teams that lose your quarterback to a twenty ACL.
Speaker 7 (38:23):
And back to back weeks. I mean, when things went
down for the Chiefs, boy did they come down.
Speaker 9 (38:29):
I thought the biggest revelation of the weekend was that
Josh Johnson is still playing in the league. He's been
playing in the league for like fifteen years, and now
he's with the Commanders.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
I want to say former Colt Caleb's point, he's been
with like ten different franchises was like an NFL record.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
I think I think he was the backup the first
time Andrew Luck got hurt. He was Hasslebuck's backup. I
think here for a couple of weeks there, the first
time he got hurt. Elliott pointed out here that Philip
Rivers has never lost the forty nine ers.
Speaker 7 (38:57):
Yeah, I did.
Speaker 6 (38:58):
See that, But what about forty four year old Philip Rivers.
Can he turn back the clock one more time?
Speaker 8 (39:05):
Forty four year old Philip Rivers is still Philip Rivers,
So he's still at the moment undefeated.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
This is true.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
I do want to know again in his heart of
heart's like coming back. You got to make the playoffs.
I get all that, but you got to get at
least one one on the board. You can't tell your
kids one day I went back, I wasn't afraid, and
you lose every single game.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
You gotta get a.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Dub well, and he mentioned this after the Seattle game
in this past week. James, he's never experienced a full
Lucasol stadium. That is right the COVID year of course,
when he was here playing for the Colts. So he
will get a little bit of that to night. And
as we talked about with Joe Buck, first time Monday
night football is called Indie Home or any Colts game
(39:45):
in three years. I thought it was interesting. We had
Ross Talker on and Mark thank you for booking them.
Ross Talker on at eight thirty and he mentioned the
Riley Leonard thing, yeah, which I think was inter I
don't think nationally you've heard that thought too too much.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
And again that's more of the debate.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
We talked about this early in the show, the Anthony
Richardson debate. I don't think there's really any debate right now.
I think medically there are some major impairments with the vision.
To me, more of the debate right now is either
Philip Rivers or Riley Leondard. That's the more realistic debate.
And Ross Tucker, I don't want to put words in
his mouth, but he seemed to be I'd rather vote
(40:22):
for Riley Loondard, which is probably where I'm at too.
Speaker 6 (40:25):
At least early on he was, you know what, all
of us were kind of thinking that, Okay, even if
you bring Philip Rivers back. We were like, okay, you're
gonna put Riley Leonard out there. You're going on the
road to Seattle. Gonna be a hard game anyway. See
what your.
Speaker 7 (40:37):
Backup you've had on your roster looks like.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
But then on the flip side, as soon as Shane
opened his mouth about Philip Rivers the day they signed
him officially, which was that Wednesday, we all left that
press conference thinking, oh, there's no chance Riley starts.
Speaker 7 (40:55):
Rivers is the guy.
Speaker 6 (40:56):
That's how bullish Shane was that opening press conference.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
It's my entire respective on the situation. So that to
me is a big factor.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
How about Mark Dyton joining us on two of his
days off, Yeah, I got a question about this too.
Speaker 8 (41:08):
Sure Why I'm only home because they needed me to
take PTO. You didn't take it enough this year?
Speaker 4 (41:14):
Take more. I'm like, okay, I will.
Speaker 7 (41:16):
That's PTO man, right there.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
So they're out your PTO excursions excursion lions.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
Yeah, you know what, there we go wait to open
those bags.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
Has Has Santa finished his shopping for all of your children?
Speaker 7 (41:31):
You and Kevin?
Speaker 4 (41:31):
Are you done?
Speaker 7 (41:32):
Yes? Is Santa done? Are you telling him?
Speaker 5 (41:34):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Are done?
Speaker 7 (41:36):
I believe I was gonna ask about the elves too.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
I believe the elves are done.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
I believe Santa's good and boy Santa might be in
a in a white beater coming up on Thursday with
how this weather is looking? Okay, okay, imagine how much
Santa's gonna be sweating his.
Speaker 8 (41:47):
Assida's broke now or something like that. Santa's shaking, the
shaking the can seeming to go on to two piece
to be flying around in the world.
Speaker 7 (41:55):
So Santa's broke now right, just just got it?
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Got it?
Speaker 7 (41:57):
I just didn't know how how last minute this.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Can and kins, Speaking of last minute, we got about
a minute left.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Caleb Zuber what he got? Forty nine ers five and
a half point favorite for tonight's.
Speaker 9 (42:06):
I'm saying forty nine ers, twenty seven colts seventeen.
Speaker 7 (42:11):
James Boyd forty nine ers twenty seven colts twenty.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
Four twenty seven to seventeen nine ers.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
You guys a little bit more high scoring than I am.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
I do like the Colts taking the points here, I
will go twenty three nineteen Niners. James, You've hit this
quite often this morning. Tackling Christian McCaffrey makes me sweat.
Imagining the Colts tackling.
Speaker 6 (42:35):
I'm just picturing him lined up against any linebacker on
the Colts roster and shuddering at the fact that he's
going to catch it and wiggle and get ten yards
pretty much every time.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Again, on paper, there is a lot I think you
could potentially do offensively, granted, giving your personnel, we'll see.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
Mark.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
We are not talking to you tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
Take Christmas.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Merry Christmas to you, to the girls, Thank you for
stopping and thank you for booking. Ross Tucker and Joe
Buck both those up on the podcast. It'll be us
three again tomorrow. Caleb Zuver, great great work behind the glass.
James Boyd and Kevin Bowen. We will be with you again.
Reminder Hank FM tonight for the Colts game on these airwaves.
It'll be the Pacers in action. Everybody, have a great
(43:15):
Monday night football.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
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