August 18, 2025 • 48 mins
00:00 – 18:25 – Nelly, Colts radio analyst Joe Reitz joins us to breakdown Colts-Packers from the weekend, who he thinks leads the QB competition and when Shane Steichen will make a decision, who he thought flashed in preseason game 2, Colts thoughts, Fever get a comeback win over the Sun but Sophie Cunningham leaves with an injury, Stephanie White’s emotional locker room speech after the win
18:26 – 36:01 – Is Shane Steichen close to a QB decision and is it going to be Daniel Jones?, Jones’ postgame comments, would you rather have a higher floor or higher ceiling guy at quarterback?, Morning Checkdown
36:02 – 48:08 - Tony East of Locked on Pacers joins us to discuss the wild Fever comeback win over the Sun, where the Fever are at this point, WNBA standings, Sophie Cunningham injury, Tyrese Haliburton’s injury status, NBA player with NFL qualities, his port-a-potty ventures
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You were listening to the Best of the Fan Morning
show on ninety three five and one oh seven five
the Fan protecting.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Off and running out of Monday Morning there, Mark, how
about that?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Well, this is inspired by Kevin talking about Joe Rule
and Nelly last week, and I was like, well, Nelly,
he's got some bangers. I don't know about Jow Rule.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
As someone said, Jay Kwan made an appearance.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Jay Kwan saying tipsy and then lest what she did?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
What do you do? Well? I mean, what more do
you need to say? That time you go?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I couldn't stand that song.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
I was waiting for Kevin Paul out the band aid
right there and put it on his cheek all right.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Time to move on to the Indianapolis Cults in preseason
game number two on the broadcast, Joe Wright's joining us
now on the Payless Liquors hotline. We all know Joe,
former Colts player and very popular guy here in the area.
Good morning, Joe, how are you doing? Are you a
big jaw Rule guy?
Speaker 6 (00:49):
Big jaw Rule guy? I was maybe at you know,
seventeen or eighteen, but probably stopped about nineteen. But yeah, no,
he had a big concert with Nelly last and they
were rocking there over at Ruoff. There you go, Yeah,
a little jew everybody use little juice on Monday mornings, right,
A little bit tired, yes, a little bit sweepy rolling in.
So I do love Monday mornings though, because you got
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to bring that high juice to start.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
The week off right, no question about that. So I'll
ask you the same thing I asked each of our
Steam colleagues here, Kevin Bowen and James Boyd a moment ago,
where are you at on quarterback one right now?
Speaker 6 (01:27):
Well, watching the game and calling it with Matt Taylor.
I thought both guys had one really good drive. And
you saw that drive and said, okay, this is what
the quarterback position should look like for the Indianapolis Colts. Now,
they both had a couple of moments you'd like that back.
I think, you know Jones early on that quarterback center exchange,
which you rarely see, I think that rattle him a
little bit, and he missed the throne a warn the
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next time. And then after Richardson had just a great
drive leading the team down the field, you know, then
he was a little bit behind on a couple passes
going there. So in my opinion. Both guys did good things,
but neither guys separated himself against the Green Bay Packers.
But if you listen to Shansteigen's comments postgame, you know
it sounds like he's close to making a decision. And
I don't think the game first, say, on Saturday afternoon,
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is going to necessarily change maybe what his gut or
instinct was. So at the end of the day, that's
sort of it's a gut decision. It's you're taking everything
that you know about Richardson, You're taking everything that you
know about Jones, and you experienced in the preseason from
OTAs through camp on a day to day process, and guys,
I still say that, you know, there's so much stuff
that goes on behind the scenes that we don't see
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as fans. Right we see camp, we see the preseason games,
the joint practices. We're not sitting on the meetings when
they're going through film. They're talking through schemes and what's
your check and what you see from the defense here
and how do you think the safeties rolled coverage pre
snap to try to decide it. So, but it sounds
like there's going to be a decision probably sooner than later.
And everybody keeps asking me, when do you need to
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know as a player, I'm like, you need to know
when the head coach tells you to go. But I
would imagine that either you know before the game, you
know right after the game with Sincy, you're gonna have
your decision, and you're gonna have two weeks to get
ready for the season, and you're gonna roll with what
you got. But I think the good thing is there's
been a lot of competition, not only there but throughout camp,
and I do think that's raised both guys because you know, hey,
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if I have a bad day or two, the other
guy's going to get the edge and nothing will bring
out the best competitors, and all of us like having
somebody right there that you're both competing for the same job.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Forty four career starts plus three in the playoffs. Show
rights with us here and then you heard him, of
course with Matt Taylor over the weekend on the Colts
Radio Network. Joe, you mentioned behind the scenes, and that
is probably a really good thing to point out. And
I know you can't really boil it down to this
simple with the quarterback competition, but as a player, and
obviously you didn't really deal with quarterback competitions, But as
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a player, would you rather have the quarterback with the
higher floor or the higher ceiling.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
That's a hypothetical question, and so I don't really have
an answer for it because I think they both bring
different skill sets. I think when you're talking about Daniel Jones,
I think you know again, you know, you say, Okay,
well he's played longer, he's got more experience. But Richardson,
I mean, he has so much talent and there's things
that Anthony Richardson can do that really no other quarterback
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in the NFL can do. So I'm excited to see
what the decision is. I know that the guys, I'm
sure is exciting to And I think that's the other
thing too. I mean, you know, I'm not going to
speak to anything, and I don't know anything, but I
would imagine that there's guys in the locker room that
are going to Shane stiking too and saying, hey, you
know what about this? What do you think about this?
And you know, Shame said it's going to be a
culative decision and he's going to get input from a
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lot of people. But the end of the day, he's
going to make it. So the fact though, that you
have a head coach that's a quarterback guru or quarterback
whisper or whatever you want to call it, I think
that's an advantage too.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
Right.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
It's different than if your head coach is a defensive
coach and you know, maybe he didn't play the position.
But you know, if anybody's going to have a beat
on what they want and what they want this offense
to look like, it's going to be somebody that's got
all the quarterback experience, play calling experiences, somebody like Shane Steigen.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Joe beyond the quarterback play. One of the biggest developments
I thought from that game was just some of the
injury the injuries that took place throughout Saturday's game, and
unfortunately for Blake Freeland that involved a serious ride leg injury. Obviously,
you played this game, you played, you played on the
offensive line, But what did you think of just a
team's reaction to coming out there and kind of giving
him some words of encouragement through obviously what's going to
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be a difficult, you know road ahead.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Yeah, first off, you feel horrible for Freeland because you
see the play happen, and when you're engaged with the
d lineman like that and you get rolled up on,
I mean, it just looked really bad from the start,
and then they bring the card out. I did think
it was really neat, kind of touching that the whole
team went out there and was talking to him and
you know, patting them on the chest and dapping them
up and praying for him, and uh, that just shows
I think the closeness of this team. And so yeah,
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unfortunate for Freeland. You know, guys played played a lot
of snaps for the Colts. But you know, that's the
thing about football, It's the brutality of the sport is
the game moves on. And I do think that Jalen Travis,
who played pretty much whole game at left tackle, I
thought he did some really nice things. He plays mostly
right tackle. During camp, I thought he held his own
at left tackle, and so it looks like he's going
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to be your swing guy. But I was excited about Travis.
He's a big man, he's a strong man, and I think,
you know, when you look at the Colts draft and
think about it, I mean, Warren is I had high
expectations for Warren and they're even beyond that now. Just
watching him play, I mean, he's gonna bring such a
different dimension to this Colts team. Then you go to
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the second round and JT. I thought he's played really
well during camp. He's flash ding games both in the
run in the past. Wale unfortunate for him because he
was having such a good camp and Lyon really to
be the starter. But anything about Travis DJ Giddens, he's
the guy who wanted to highlight too on the show
because he's got a patience and a vision for running
backs you don't often see in rookies. There was one
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play Saturday when he had the ball and most guys
are just gonna take it and run it, he kind
of set it up. He was patient a little bit,
almost had his hand on the offensive lineman following his blockers.
So again, Uh, it's early in terms of the twenty
twenty five NFL Draft, and I always laugh when the
day after people give draft game draft grades. It's like,
how do you know this team? These guys are gonna
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be good. No, nobody's played a snap yet. But I
do think that the twenty twenty five draft is setting
up to be really solid for the Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Hey, Joe, you know I love my post draft grades,
my mock draft that are always wrong. This is you
know this, this is what you know. Keep the lights
on at that time of the year.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
What was your grade?
Speaker 5 (07:30):
I have no idea I can even tell you what
these grades are. And I laugh. People tell me like
this is so pointless, and it's like, well, if you
saw numbers and the clicks, man, you would know why
we do it. But in all seriousness, going back to
Tyler Warren, I know you said that you were high
on them. What made you, I guess a bit more
convinced that he'll be an impact player as a rookie?
Is it just seeing it happen in a game setting
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the last two weeks?
Speaker 6 (07:53):
Yeah, I mean, he dominated college, but I think his
physicality has been more than I thought at the NFL level.
And just how fluid he is route running. He's just
got a knack for finding ways to get open and
he's so big his catch radius and being fluid and
running routes. I mean, you know, the Colt's tight end
production was thirty two out of thirty two in the
NFL last year. But when you think about him, Moally.
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I think Will Mallory has had a quiet, really good
training camp and that's a position that the Colts need
to get a lot more production this year, and you
fully expected to led by number eighty four.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Always good to talk to you, Joe. Great job this
past weekend. We appreciate your thoughts and hope things go
well for you all week long.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
All right, sounds good. Well, thanks for having me on fellas.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
There you are. He might be might at one point
in time, for a brief moment in time, been the
biggest jar roof in Indianapolis.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Right now, I could see Joe Wright's having a time
or two up at Deer Creek back in the day.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
I just love how he said he was a jaw
wu fran for all of like eighteen months.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Seventeen year old, fifteen years old is what he went
with there. Yes, one final job roll party before you're
off the Western Michigan.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
That's exactly how it works. Anything that he said that
sparked your interest.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
There, I agree with the DJ Giddens assessment. I think
that he's shown some stuff throughout preseason, and really he's
a bit more of a complete back than I thought.
I think coming out In my mind, I'm like, oh,
this's got called a lot of passes in college. He
give me the third down back. But my understanding is
that they believe he can be, you know, a guy
who can play more than just on third downs, and
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he can contribute as a runner more so than just
as a pass catcher out of the backfield. So you
saw some of the vision that he has, and I
think that he's trending up right now.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Yeah. When Chris Ballard has compared him before to Marlon Mack.
When he said that, I was like, wow, that makes
a ton of sense. When I watch DJ Giddens run,
I definitely think a little bit of Marlon Max. So yeah,
running back wise, you know, Jonathan Taylor and DJ Giddens
are obvious and then James who knows. I mean that
Tyler Goodson injury, I felt awful. I wrote something on
our website. You know ten guys that I thought really
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had a nice camp and improved their stock, and to me,
Goodson was one of them, and so I felt bad
for him that he got hurt among others on Saturday again,
right now, I mean, if I go through this fifty
three a man roster I could probably count twelve thirteen
guys dealing with injuries that I would have to make
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the team. That's a huge number. And again, roster cuts
a week from Tuesday, we're less than three weeks away
from the start of the regular season. Obviously, some of
those guys are going to get back, but some of
them you're gonna have to factor in. Oh wait, how
long are they out? Do we put them on ir
to come back? Are they going to be back within
the first four weeks of the season. It's a lot
of roster gymnastics for Chris Bauer and Chainstyken and company
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here over the next eight days.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
All right, we'll get some of your text line thoughts
coming up in a few minutes here, but also over
the weekend and yesterday specifically, Indiana Fever got an incredible
comeback win, which we talked a little bit at the
beginning of the show Down twenty one. They come back
and they beat Connecticut on the road. But another key injury,
and we don't know how bad it's going to be.
James Boyd, you saw the injury with Sophie Cunningham. We
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all know what the worst possible could be, like an
acl or something like that. But how many injuries can
this team withstand and keep plugging on. I mean, I
think that's one of the reasons Stuffing Right was so
emotional in her postgame comments and in the locker room
l after the game last night.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Yeah, And one of the things I try to do,
I don't really speculate on injury is we don't know
how serious or non serious it is. We'll have to
wait and see what the team says. So that's my
opinion on the nature of the injury. But yeah, I
thought that they responded pretty well. They were dead in
the water therefore a large portion of that game, and honestly,
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they made it more difficult they probably had to be.
And I get that some of that probably is like
the mental side of it. We see another player go
down and having a rally. But that would have been
a horrendous loss against the Connecticut Sun, and obviously it
turned out to be a very big win for this
team because one thing, the Connecticut son are terrible. They're
not a good team at all, one of the worst
teams in the league, if not the worst. They actually
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are the worst team in the league. So having two
losses to him on your resume would have been a
hard one to get over. So then on top of that,
just looking at the standings, man like, it is very
very tight right now. The Fever are currently in the
sixth seed right now, one half win or half win
or half game over the Golden State Valkyries, and you know,
they're they're right there between being in the playoffs and
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out of the playoffs. So I think that's a huge
when for this team, let alone the schedule coming up, Kevin.
I know you've probably taken a peek at it, but
they've got some really good teams on the horizon. So
that one last night I think was a big, big
win for them because it does not get any easier
for this team. And not saying it was easy last night,
but yeah, it doesn't get easier.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Yeah. I think honestly, the Stephanie White emotion post game,
you know, I don't know, maybe a little bit of
it is going back to Connecticut, but I thought it
was just so layered in everything that transpired yesterday. First off,
you have Sophie Cunningham go down on what looked to
be an awful injury. Will await word on that, and
you're thinking to yourself oh bleep, How the bleep is
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this happening again? Like, yeah, it's unbelievable that the Fever
continue to have these injuries, and you know, they look
to be serious injuries with Art McDonald and Sidney Colson
and all of that, and then the unbelievable comeback and
Kelsey Mitchell showing why she's one of the greatest players,
probably on the very short list of greatest players ever
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to play for the Fever. Honestly, she's probably right behind
Tamika catchings. And then you'd think about the standings like
that that win, if you were to lose that game,
that's three in a row, and James, you know you
just pointed out kind of cause not good. You know,
these would fall into the categories of like, oh my gosh,
when's Caitlyn coming back? When is she not coming back?
You know, like one of these of you know, Stephanie
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White sain pregame yesterday, I hope she comes back for
the end of the season. Well, James, anytime I hear
our coach say hope, I hope to go play augusta
national something.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Yeah, I saw a lot of different reactions to that.
Kevin about you know, oh my gosh, she's coming back
like very soon, so oh my gosh, she's off the
rest of the season. But the truth is her comments
yesterday were no different than what we've heard, which is
that she's out and definitely and we'll just see you
from there.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah, I mean, it just you know, in the NFL
right now, I think we're dealing with this a little
bit with Matthew Stafford situation. Yeah, I mean, it's just
a lot of uncertainty around when is going to be
the return for Caitlin Clark this week. They don't play
till Friday, so you have a practice Wednesday and a
practice Thursday. To me, those would be day two circle
on the calendar for her. You know, we're at a
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month now post injury here, so does she get out
there this weekend because again, their regular season is starting
to come to a close there. So amidst all of
it and the Sophie Counningham injury being the biggest news,
I did think that postgame locker room was was pretty cool.
You know, a regular season win. To see the emotion
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that Stephanie White had, you don't typically get that in
pro sports.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
And then next up they have Minnesota at home, they
have Minnesota on the road at her home. They got
you know, Los Angeles Sparks who had that number of
this season, Golden State Vakyriz who smoked him at home
earlier this year. So that was a huge win last
night because it does not get any easier opponent wise
for the rest of the way.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
All right, Uh, we've been talking about Stephanie White and
how emotional she was. There was a clip that The
Fever put out of her talking to the team after
the game and just talking about how proud she was.
But just listen to her voice, and you know what
this team is starting to mean to her.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
So are you.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
I'm so proud of you, guys. I know that sometimes
it sounds like when we talk about being resilient, but
it's not, man, it's how we live. It's how y'all live.
And it's a tribute to you. It's a tribute to
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your connectedness, your togetherness, your your your toughness, your mindset.
You never give up gritty attitudes like that's what it takes,
that's what it takes. We will never never be it
out because that it's worth goal. That is worth go kels,
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God damn big. Put us on your back, Oh big
time breezing. You are the consummate professional. We love you,
we appreciate you. You were huge ad point forward, It's like, look,
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you can't underestimate what it means to have somebody like
her who just does whatever we ask, right, does whatever.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
I mean, everybody really likes.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
That was a huge.
Speaker 8 (16:45):
Gotash your activity all and that's what it's gonna take.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Hey, that's what it's gonna take.
Speaker 8 (16:53):
We gotta play free, we gotta.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Play with no pressure.
Speaker 8 (16:56):
But we fight live that idiots every day and we
will accomplish what we want to accomplish.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Okay, so there you go. Obviously very emotional afterwards. I'm
ready something to do with the enjoy the win. You're good,
I'm contesting. I'm ready. I'm ready.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
I'll run through a brick wall for Stephanie White after
hearing that. But no, that was awesome. I think that's
a good reminder there, Jeff, of what sports means people.
And it's not just the money the attention of fame.
I think sometimes you can get lost in that. But that,
to me was a speech given by someone who's loved
basketball her entire life, and she's responding to a group
of women who have rallied, competed and done it in
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a way that is very endearing. It reminds me of
the Pacers, where it's the underdog kind of spirit. We're
never really out of it until it's over. And yeah,
dare I say that they have done some special things
this season in spite of Kitlin Clark's injury, so big
one yesterday and then again, I just feel so good
for Kelsey Mitch who's playing meaningful basketball after you know,
some dog dog Daisy years really with this franchise, so
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special stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah. So the combination of thirty four O or thirty
eight after halftime for Kelsey Mitchell and that togetherness that
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(18:24):
seven five the Fan. Those are the words at the
end there of Shane Steike and talking about his quarterback situation.
Good morning and welcome into the Fan Morning Show, Kevin Bowen,
James Poyd, I'm Jeff Rickert along with Mark Dyketon, and
we'll get some of your comments on the fan text
line in a moment here at two three nine ten seventy.
But Kevin, I'll say for those just joining us, and
we talked about this about a half an hour ago.
Listening to those comments by Shane Steike, and it sounds
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like he just wants to talk to a few folks
this morning. It feels like just the tone in his voice.
I've had three weeks of this, I'm close. Maybe he
just wants to get some feedback at this point in time,
and maybe he gets talked into let's look at him
one more time this week again. Who knows?
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Mean part of me here's that and thinks, James Tomorrow
eleven fifteen am Shane Steak and meets the media, does
he announce it? Does he tell the guys today and
announce it tomorrow?
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Yeah, A part of me thinks that if he tells
the guys today, we might see a leak today and
then tomorrow he would officially address it. But that would
be my thinking behind it. I mean day off yesterday,
everyone I do want to know? I thought about this
driving in today. Actually, like, what do you do if
you're a quarterback and the day's off, you're not going
to hear anything? What do you do? Just sit in
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your like living room and just with the lights off
and just think about, Oh my gosh, it all comes
down to this. So what do you do? Do you hang
out with your family? Do you tell everybody leave me alone?
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Show up a Shane's house playing with those kids?
Speaker 5 (19:39):
And yeah, you know, is there anything else?
Speaker 4 (19:41):
I'm serious?
Speaker 5 (19:42):
But do you know of anything else you could.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Throw the football?
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Do you kidnap a couple of the wide receivers and
say hey, let's go do something together and then if
you don't get the job, you tell them, well you
can walk back? Or how did that go?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I think the correct answer is you go home, you
watch film, and you take no and study the playbook
and get ready for your next practice, right, and.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Yeah you probably have to, but it is I'm very
curious to hear, and I think Anthony has been more
open about it. Just the nature of that, you know,
the the duality of having to be a good teammate
had to be ready, but also realizing that man if
I don't get this opportunity. I'm gonna be very disappointed.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Did you think Anthony sided or reserved after the game
Saturday to like, I don't think I have this job?
Am I reading way too much in Anthony Richardson's words
post game?
Speaker 5 (20:32):
I think so. I think he's kind of been like
that since he honestly was bench last year. Since he's
come back, he's been a lot more, in my opinion,
from that down to earth and sort of grounded in
a sense that he wasn't before. And I'm saying he
was like super arrogant before, but I think that there
is a sense of humility and a sense of mortality
where it's like, oh, everything isn't necessarily in my fingertips
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all the time when I wanted to be. So I
think that he just he's taking like the more mature
I've learned some things approached, But deep down I think
he knows, you know, I want to be the guy
and I need to be the guy.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
There is part of me. It sits here and you know, again,
it sounds like a decision is very eminent, and we
just watched the last three weeks unfold. Anthony Richardson did
not miss a single team practice session. Yes, he did
obviously leave the Baltimore game early, but didn't miss a single.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Team also wanted back in no too right, say it again,
he wanted back into that game too.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I don't really think that that matters too much, but
you know, again his fault for the injury leading to
him exit the game. He doesn't miss a single practice.
Wrap of the two quarterbacks, he led the only touchdown
drive in the preseason, and the touchdown drive he led
I thought was the exact type of drive you want
to see from him. Twelve plays, ninety yards, methodical, right arm,
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you know, just boom.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
He kept it going amid a couple of penalties too,
that brought him back right.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Yeah, he played from behind the chains a few times,
five or six on the drive. I would argue the
one in completion probably wasn't even his fault, just you know,
a genial vashion deal and thought the ball was coming
or what so. And yet I sit here right now
and I think Shane Steichen's gonna pick Tangel Jones, which
is got it good?
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Can you elaborate on that? And is okay? So I've
heard you say this, and I was talking to Stephen
Holder about this after the game as well, and he
has me thinking that man could say, you really choose
Daniel And one of his reasons was because of the
comments made after the game about the operational part of
being a quarterback And is that part of why you
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think he might lean in that direction because a lot
of it isn't just pure throwing. If that makes sen.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Yeah, I thought Chane emphasized that a couple of different
times post game. And again, James, what is the one
word he's used since March?
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Consistency?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
That has been the word he has always come back to.
And you know, we had Joe wrights On a little
bit ago. You know, I asked Joe, Okay, what would
you prefer as a player? Would you want the quarterback
that off you a little bit of a higher floor
or would you want the quarterback that offers you more
of the ceiling? And it seems like when they drafted
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Anthony Richardson it was all about the latter. For the Colts.
It was, Yeah, you got to create big plays and
you need someone that can offer, you know, the stuff
you can't drop on a white board and when everything
breaks down, can you make that play? I eve Anthony
Gould throw that Anthony had on Saturday, but now it
seems like it is shifted towards No. We've done that
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song and dance, and right now I need a quarterback
that I can largely trust. And I think that Baltimore
play of how Anthony Richardson got hurt, I could just
see that mattering a whole lot to Shane Stige, and
I don't have a strong conviction, to be clear either way.
I would start Richardson. I think you need clarity and
you need to stop with all the excuses and figure
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out if you got something or not. That's the path
I would go down. But in Shane's eyes, he just
has always talked like more the Jones guy, I think
throughout this offseason, and maybe I'm reading too much of
a man who says very few words, but that's how
I felt. Do you not feel that way, James?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Would you?
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Do you think Shane Stichen will say who I guess
to just put it blown, I think he'll say Anthony Richardson.
Do you think he'll be Richardson?
Speaker 5 (24:15):
And I think it will be Richardson. And I think
that because again I go back to not necessarily what
he's his words have been because I, like you said,
trying to pars through Shane Stichen's words, there are not
many of them, and I feel like whenever I do that,
I could talk myself either way. But my general thinking
is kind of along the lines of what I think
me and Jeff and really all of us have said
throughout these last two weeks on the show is that
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if it's close, you would think you leaned towards the
guy you drafted number four just a few years ago,
because in my opinion, Daniel Jones has done nothing to
win the job. Now I won't say that he's done
like anything to lose the job necessarily, but Ty goes
to the runner. Ty goes to the guy you had
here already.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
In my opinion, yeah, I go back and it didn't
count because my guy Mitchell messed it up. But the
play that he made it just it's tantalizing.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Right.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
He is big and strong and athletic enough to get
away from a sack and then he put the ball
on the money. What thirty thirty five yards downfield?
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Right the thirty game they got negated by Adie Mitchell
being off sides.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yes, I don't know. Can Daniel Jones do that.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
I think he can in some instances. I'm not saying
that throw in particular.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
But Daniel Jones ain't making that that play.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
You know, I meant like just to down the field
stuff like we saw him pushing down the field for
example with Tyler Warren. But again, you say that Daniel
Jones ain't making that play, which I'm not arguing that,
but like, do the Colts think they need need their
quarterback to make that?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Well, that's kind of what I was getting at, is
what like Jeff brings up that play. I would think
the thing that resonates more Shane Styke and leaving Saturday though,
is Anthony Richardson did lead again a very methodical touchdown drive.
Like that's where you want to see growth that play
he made Anthony Gould. We know Anthony Richardson can do that.
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He has done that in the NFL. It's more of
the reverse of it. I thought, honestly, one of the
things I was struck by postgame two and James, you
asked Daniel Jones's question, James, what Daniel Jones has spoken
to the media. What do you think eight times here
in his Colt career six times in his Colts career.
I don't think I've walked away one time thinking wow,
that was interesting. And then postgame he says this and like,
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I don't know if he meant it in this manner,
but James and corigt me are wrong. You asked him
something to the effect of like, hey, what do you
think you've done to earn the job?
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Yeah? You know, I basically said, what do you think
you've shown the coaches to make an argument? To be
qb one? I mean, because he keeps tap dancing around
the competition. Every time we ask him directly about it.
He's just like, Oh, I'm just here to compete and
be a good teammate.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Bomped that.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
I'm like, I'm not trying to hear that anymore. You
came here to take somebody's job. Have you done enough
to do that?
Speaker 4 (26:58):
On more money Minnesota? For say exactly, that was my question.
Here's what he had to sell. And just one more
additional thing for context. Here his answer. It almost sounded
like he was literally saying, what are Anthony Richardson's weaknesses?
Oh yeah, let me say that out loud. And here's
Daniel Jones.
Speaker 9 (27:19):
Just tried to show up every day and improve grow
in my understanding of the offense, and and make good
decisions consistently. I think that's been something I've I've always
tried to do and uh, and we'll continue to work on.
But I think consistent decision making and uh, you know,
throwing the ball accurately accurately, I think that's a huge
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part of playing the positions. You know, that's something I've
tried to do.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, that's an undeniable asset in the National Football League.
There's no question consistent decision making, throwing the ball accuracy
accurately is a huge part of playing the position. If
you had to sit there and say, what are two
things you have questions about with Anthony, you would say, well,
inconsistent decision making and throwing the ball inaccurately.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I just when Daniel Jones said that out loud of like,
that is unbelievable that I don't know if he was
trying to do that, but he's not, Like he's not
wrong in the answer.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
No. I just found it hilarious that the guy that
again has not said anything interesting for six months says
that seemingly forty eight hours before we're about to get
this quarterback decision.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
And again it seems to be high ceiling but low
floor versus high floor and low ceiling. It feels like
that's that's your choice right now, James.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
Fun time, I was gonna say, I don't know what
else to really, you know, Okay, here's my other thing
I wanted to get into.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
This is a.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
I don't know if I'm just bored in the media
because I get sick of people, you know, giving you
these cliche answers. Oh, Anthony, it's not up to me.
I get the job, thank god, if I don't got
to keep working. Yeah, but like you want the job?
And so do you think either quarterback would have been
a little bit more definitive in their answers? But why
they we should about why they should be the starter?
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If they had done more to be the starter, Like
do you think we would have gotten anything else? Because
I feel like both guys are saying, like, you know,
I knew I didn't do a whole lot to maybe
impress you, but like I'm not even better than that guy, right,
Like again, that's not like.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Go to in dating that guy, right.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Aaron Tuxson says that he pictures Shane Stikeen as the Bachelor,
wondering who to give the Blue Rose to.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
I'm serious though, but like, will we have gotten some
more definitive kind of like from either guy? Because either
guy is like, well, you know, I'm just trying to
get better every day, and I'm like, well, have you
gotten any better.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
To play the bachelor? Sort of analogy there, that's Daniel
Jones grabbing shaanesychings, Hey can we go out to the
fire just one last time? I got one more thing
I need to say, And hey, can I steal you
from a minute's ways?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Do you know what's really going on right there?
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Can I take you to Ralston's for a date on
mass Ave? And you know I'm gonna I'm gonna throw
these comments and like that. That's what it felt like.
I'm jotting this downmore having Daniel Jones say those comments.
What what do you guys think of? Again the question
that I threw, Joe writes internally in that locker room,
what do they want? The higher floor of the higher ceiling.
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If you were a player in that locker room, Let's
say you're Jonathan Taylor, would you rather have the higher floor?
Theoretically in Jones or the higher ceiling theoretically and Richardson.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I feel like I'd want the guy who has the
chance to have the higher, higher ceiling to again, who
hasn't had a ton of opportunities, A lot of reasons
why not getting into that, But I feel like I
want to roll with Anthony Richardson, and well, it just
becomes untenable before it's two la. I mean, you don't
go three four games, But do you see if he's
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made don't you want to see if he's made a
step forward at some point with as much as you've
invested him in and everything else. And again, Shane Steigen
might feel like his job's on the line. I gotta
I can't worry about this guy's future. I gotta worry
about my future and the immediate future. And again, we
look at a team that was eight and nine last year,
that probably led a couple of games slip away James
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and better decision making and taking care of the football
in certain situations may and maybe some better field goal
kicking and some key points. Maybe that makes you all
of a sudden, you go from eight to nine to
either nine and eight or ten and seven. Do you
look at it that way with some of the additions
and upgrades you've made on defense.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Yeah, I think that's part of it. That's certainly in
the conversation. Man. I think if I'm in that locker room,
I probably want ar mainly because one, he's been there longer,
I have layship with him, and you've seen glimpses of
what it looks like when it clicks. And I go
back to the Jets game last year. If there's any
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Ar truthers out there, they're gonna look at that game
and say, you really want to pass? Do you really
want to pass this up? When's the last time Daniel
Jones had a game like this? And it probably goes
back to twenty twenty two when he had one of
those games against the Colts ironically, But I also wonder too, though,
when it comes to Anthony, like after he got his
finger messed up in the preseason opener, how many guys
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in that locker room thought, you know what, this guy
always gets hurt.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Well, that would be the counter to it, James, is
if you're a guy in the locker room, and let's
just speak to that play for a second, you're one
of those guys that was out there. DJ Giddens on
that play, or Tyler Warren on that play, or you know,
probably I should go with a little bit more of
a veteran. You did everything right on that play. Ten
of you were on the same page. One of you
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made the mistake, and it could if that's a real game.
Let's say that ball it's yard loose. So ten offensive
players are on the same page, and yet you just
had a stripsack in your own territory against a team
that you're probably a touchdown underdog against. That is disastrous
when you speak from an NFL game point of view.
So I could see the locker room, like our our
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poll to start of the camp mark was what eighty
five percent Colts fans won. Richardson, Yes, that that locker
room to me would be a lot closer to fifty
to fifty. Like, yeah, I can hear you, Jeff of like, yeah,
you know, higher ceiling and you know healthy offseason and
the play to Anthony Gould, you know Daniel Jones isn't
making that. Yes, then if you're a part of that
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locker room and you watch the play against Baltimore, you're thinking,
wait a minute, we all sit in the same meetings
and ten of us are on the same page, but
you're not, and that just costs us a football game. Yeah,
you can.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Would you be so let me put it to you
this way, Would you be surprised by the announcement of
either guy tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (33:58):
No? No, I know either guy. I mean, James, I
don't know if you've probably done this, but I'll probably
at some point today. Right, both guys have been named
the starter articles. So like Kevin at three h five,
it's one of those situations where like I could see
it being both ways. Yeah, I definitely could. And for
those curious about the Colt schedule this week, they will
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practice Tomorrow Wednesday, Thursday. Believe we actually still get to
watch the full practices, right James.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Yes, I got that clarified with Colts PR.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
So I put this. They're back at their own facility,
we get to watch the full practices. And while Shane
hasn't committed to a date per se, obviously, he said
on Saturday that he's close to a decision, it wouldn't
stun me if he announced that tomorrow before their first practice.
So again, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, off to Cincinnati Friday, and
we'll await what the preseason finale plan will be against
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the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
July twenty third, I tweeted on the show account do
you want the Colts starting who? Do you want the
Colts starting quarterback?
Speaker 6 (34:55):
To? Being?
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Twenty twenty five?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Eighty two point four percent, said Anthony Richardson, You think
that's any different? Like a little over a month later,
almost a month later, if I put that tweet out,
I'd probably say it might be more more in favor
of AR at this point.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't think that would change overwhelming. Again,
I brought it up more from a locker room, so
like if you asked that same question mark to the
locker of truth here, you know what would be that
A I think you would have a heavy divide within
that room of what they would want. And what does
that do for the locker room too?
Speaker 3 (35:28):
If like the guy that you prefer doesn't get the like,
are you gonna play any different?
Speaker 8 (35:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Pissed off? Well part of me?
Speaker 9 (35:35):
Thing?
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Nah, I don't think so. Honestly, I think if you
are a true professional in that locker room, and let's
say they pick Daniel Jones and you're an AR person,
you're probably thinking, well, he had his opportunities and now
we got to go win.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Well, and and you got your own freaking job to
worry about it exactly. If you play defense for the Colts,
there's you've contributed to Gus Bradley getting fired. And if
you play the offensive line for the Colts, right now,
I think you've got a little bit more questions about
that group.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Then I thought, oh, now you're speaking my language, Mark Dayton.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Oh this is the plist.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
This isn't the playlist. I like this, this good stuff.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
All right?
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Thanks for an artist.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah, I don't know if that can but I know
I listened to it a lot.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
What is it, Mark? Who is it a game?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Well, this is a fifty unit remix, but yes, i'll
do the game in fifty But yes, very good.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
A lot of the time I'll hear it with my wife.
She likes she really likes a lot of that music.
She'll play it and I'll just prooved it.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I'll tell you another guy that we grew to. It's
a victory Monday too for the Indiana Fever. So we
got another victory Monday. Tony East covers The Pacers and
the Fever and he joins us now in the Payless
Liquors hotline. Good morning, Tony East, how you doing today?
Speaker 7 (36:46):
Good morning, I sincerely hope I am not in anyone's playlist,
but have it here.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Well, you're here today, You're on our playlist. We appreciate that,
you know. We we we saw in a Fever come
from behind win over a team that's not all that good,
but they match up apparently well with the Fever because
they give them fits every time they come up with
an overtime win over Connecticut ninety nine ninety three. They
were twenty one points down and we saw a very
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emotional Stepphannie White post game in the locker room. And
I would imagine that that emotion comes from perhaps another
big injury coming. We'll find out today to Sophia Cunningham.
But Caitlin Clark's been out for fourteenth straight games. We've
had injury after injury after injury. What did you make
of her postgame remarks?
Speaker 7 (37:30):
Yeah, it was not surprising, I suppose, but I just
it did strike me that how emotional she was after a.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Game like that.
Speaker 7 (37:37):
I mean, the sun, the sun stink, right, And I
think that that the fact that she came to the
presser with that, you know, intense passion after a win
like that, it says a lot about the state of
affairs for the team that I mean, they just keep
dropping like flies.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
That would be their fourth ball.
Speaker 7 (37:53):
Handler from this season that is out if Cunningham's going
to miss any time, Like that's like all the right,
It's just Kelsey Mitchell left basically, and obviously they filled
them more now. So to be in that situation where
you know, she's she's telling us she was like swearing
internally when when Sophie goes down and they have whatever
thirty one points halfway through the third quarter and then win,
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like you know that that's a coal like everything coalesces
to to finally play the way they hoped they could
for whatever that was, to close the game seventeen minutes,
and you know, it could not have come at a
better time. Like they looked really bad at home last
week again, some not great teams, the Sun or the
worst team in the league.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
By a record.
Speaker 7 (38:33):
They're not like a terrible worst team, but they're pretty bad.
You know, they needed to find a way to do
that and for the players to respond the way they
did and play the way if you hope they can
without Clark like they have at times this season, Like
that's what a coach hopes to see her team do.
And obviously it took Kelsey Mitchell super heroics, but it
was awesome to see you know how much that that
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win meant, especially on the day when everything else went
their way standings wise, So that I mean, that was
a huge, huge, huge day for the Fever, despite them
beating a team that everybody thought they should beat anyway.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Tony hat tip, I thought the mother bleeping adjective used
in a tweet to describe Kelsey Mitchell yesterday was very needed.
So great work with that. I won't say it here
to save my John.
Speaker 7 (39:19):
I save that word for like once a year, so
you know it means something when it comes out, like,
oh yeah, thirty seven point a half for w player
is crazy. That was unreal.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
You met the moment like she did with that tweet.
So great work by Tony East on that. Okay, Caitlyn
Clark update, nothing today, nothing tomorrow. On the floor Wednesday
Thursday practice, Stephanie White says the hope is she will
be back before the end of the regular season. I
start to get nervous. If we get through this week
and there's nothing on the floor, would you be nervous too.
Speaker 7 (39:50):
I would agree with that, Like I don't necessarily know that,
I would say, oh, she's gotta play by this week,
you know, for whatever reason, I'm.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Not saying playing to be clear, I'm saying she needs
I think.
Speaker 7 (40:00):
Yes, totally agree like they and this is the time,
right because you know they have four days to to
have the on ramp kind of happen towards you know,
we finally hear three on three or five on five
or just something where a basketball is being drible and
she's wearing a fever kit.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
You know, at.
Speaker 7 (40:19):
Practice would because you have a chance to really do it,
Like this is a big league for them to work
in Odyssey Simms. And if they get another hard to
player because the gun hand, that's great, But like Clark
is the thing to focus on in practice this week
if they can, and like they have a lot of
road games to close their season. Obviously they play the
leagu's at home this week, but you know that they
have Seattle like the following weekend and a couple of
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other home games. Were's like maybe this is the time
it makes sense if it's going to happen, and would
you have a random like They've played I think the
most games of any team in the league.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
I'd have to double check that.
Speaker 7 (40:50):
I believe that there are ten games left with the
fewest of anybody, And so that does and in theory
now give them a chance to have practice time, which
is so rare this late in the season, and they
have to use it to if they can get Clark
some practice time on the floor so her return and smoother.
And so I agree that if we hear nothing of
the sorts of you know, on the hardwood dribbling doing
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something throughout three, five and five, that's when I'd do that. Huh.
Maybe that hope is just hope. But if something does
come up, then then that'd be great for them because
they've been everybody this year. At some point they they're peak.
Shows they have a chance, but they needed to play
to have that chance.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
Tony, how big was that win yesterday? And I'm not
saying that as a cliche because of the fashion in
which they did it, but just knowing where they are
in the standings and who's up next on the docket, Yeah,
I mean.
Speaker 7 (41:36):
They're they're scheduled the rest of the way. If you
check you Tankathon has remaining strength to schedule. They have
the hardest strength of schedule by like five percentage points
of opponent win percentage, Like it's much harder than anybody
else's And that's why this whole this last four games
they played, they played the worst four teams in the
league by record. They played DC, Connecticut, Dallas, and I'm
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missing one for the Chicago, Like they needed to clean
up in that stretch. They did not do great, but
that's why they needed that win so bad, like to
get any sort of cushion before their schedule gets harder,
like this week they just play the Leaks and Colliers
status is improving, and that's the best team in the league,
Like buy a good amount.
Speaker 6 (42:17):
They're amazing, and.
Speaker 7 (42:18):
They play lots of good teams the rest of the
way if they're gonna hold off other teams or even
keep up. Like it's so hard to talk about what
their goals should be because they're kind of equidistant from home
court advantage and just straight up missing the playoffs. But
I think their goal should be to make it first
and foremost. If they're going to do that, they need
to win games. They need to win probably twenty three games,
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twenty two games would be my guess, and winning five
of their last ten would be like pretty impressive given
how challenging their schedule is, and so giving themselves an
extra win before that was just so huge already, and
they got every result they needed yesterday. The Valkyries lost,
the Storm lost, the Sparks somehow lost in the Mystics,
joining the Fevers trend from Friday, So the perfect time
(43:00):
to get a win like that in terms of like
confidence and as we saw with Stephanie might postgame like emotion,
combining it with the losses front of the teams, the
Fever upcoming schedule, like they really really needed it and
they got it, and now they have four days to
kind of regroup and hope some of those teams lose again.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Tony Aast host the Locked On Pacers podcast. You can
also see his work in Forbes, ESB Nation, Bleacher Report, WTHR,
other various publications. He covers both the Pacers and the Fever.
Move on to the Pacers real quick. I think we
talked about this just for a minute last week, but
as tyrese Haliburton moving on without crutches in the scooter
at this point in time.
Speaker 7 (43:37):
Yeah, he sure said it. He did a great job
of making his He's the only guy who would make
his no crutch, no boot picture of Puma thing. But yeah,
he's got his new shoes, he's got no crutches. I
will miss seeing him scoot around. It was quite funny
to see.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
But that's good news.
Speaker 7 (43:55):
I mean, that's where the recovery kind of should be
at this point, and on your feet and moving. It
was funny to hear him talk about how challenging the
most random tasks are at his house. But yeah, on
the men, that's good, even though he's not gonna play
this year obviously, any sort of recovery update from him
that's positive and moving in the right direction, that's goodness, Tony.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Anything you care about schedule release wise, we saw it
come out last Thursday. Anything stand out to you from
a Pacers standpoint, as we're still a little over a
month away from training camp.
Speaker 7 (44:25):
Yeah, this is this is a cool thing in the
schedule this year. They don't randomly go to Europe for
a week in the middle of it, so that's that's
a lot better than last year. But they all the
same Pacers the advantages they usually get, right, They traveled
the fewest miles of any team because they're so close
to their division opponents, and they have the fewest back
to backs, and I think they have tied for the
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fewest rest disadvantage games this year, like their opponents in
them will be even in terms of how they're feeling
and traveling at worse for much of the season, which
is good, right if you're a team that is going
to be scraping by and trying to make you know,
the play in At least on paper it looks like.
Speaker 6 (45:02):
And that's good.
Speaker 7 (45:03):
You want all those vintages built in. But no, nothing
super standoutish. They play eighty games, and they play the
eighty teams that everybody thought they'd play. They're only weird
part of their schedules that like mid January through mid
February rush with the trade headline in the middle of it,
where it's like a baseball schedule five road games, four
home games, six road games consecutively. But outside of that,
it's it's nothing so shocking or different than any normal year.
Speaker 5 (45:27):
Tony, which Pacers player will be the best Colts quarterback?
Speaker 7 (45:32):
Oh Man.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Didn't see that one coming, did you No.
Speaker 7 (45:37):
I'm used to the opposite, like which Colts play would
be the best on the Pacers? Which is Moiley Cox
is still on the Colts, right, It's always him, it's
the answer. Yeah, yeah, he's always the answer for the inverse.
I can't believe I didn't know if he was still
on the team or not. The best football player.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
You said quarterback specifically.
Speaker 5 (45:52):
Yes, quarterback. There are the compeences are going on. I'm
just thinking if we got to go across the street
to game Bridge to pick up a quarterback to start
about week one, who are you picking?
Speaker 4 (46:02):
What's like?
Speaker 7 (46:03):
What's the typical Yeah, I was gonna say, Halburn's got
a lot of the trades, right, what's the typical quarterback hip?
Like six four? Right about?
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (46:10):
About six four? I would say, I think you can
meet a little bit more weight than Halibird.
Speaker 7 (46:14):
No, he might be too thin for I'll.
Speaker 5 (46:17):
Tell you who I think would actually turnovers, but but
you know what, he might make the tackle on all
ten turnovers. My pick personally might be mathering, but I'm
seeing where your mind's going.
Speaker 7 (46:30):
Cam Jones feels like he'd be really he's got the
five right, Yeah, he'd be really slithery. He's got the
lefty stuff. He'd be a kind of quarterback that I
like watching. You know, you can come along with it.
That's a fair Matherin was a good answer. So I
just zagged a little bit because you guys took the
best look, Tony.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
Have you ever stuck your hand in a porter body?
Speaker 5 (46:50):
It's like my.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
Hand in a No what you're you're not a father?
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (46:56):
You never dropped anything?
Speaker 7 (46:58):
I no, no, no, no, no, uh.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Any close calls they need to Yeah.
Speaker 5 (47:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (47:03):
I in my old life of working a job, like
a corporate job, I did a lot of like had
to go to construction sites kind of things, and so
I spent many minutes in one one company that I
was in the port, they had one of those grabber
things in there.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Really smarter.
Speaker 7 (47:20):
Wow, yes, I know.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Apparently that works out a problem. They finally had to
fix it.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Interesting.
Speaker 5 (47:26):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Okay, well maybe invest in that last year.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Driver there, honey, can you get the I dropped my
sunglasses in there on Saturday night.
Speaker 4 (47:36):
I instinctually, I just I just grabbed them out.
Speaker 7 (47:42):
I have no comment.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
Are they there?
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Are they gone?
Speaker 3 (47:44):
For you?
Speaker 4 (47:45):
Are you really going to judge me that hard. I
thought you and I were friends.
Speaker 7 (47:48):
Oh, I'm not judging you.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
I have no comment. Is it no comment? A comment?
Is that what they say in PR class?
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Is that what you say to all the coaches who
say no comment? There's nothing there also no comment? All right, Tony,
thanks for stopping by this morning. We appreciate you.
Speaker 6 (48:07):
Thanks having me
You were listening to the Best of the Fan Morning
show on ninety three five and one oh seven five
the Fan protecting.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Off and running out of Monday Morning there, Mark, how
about that?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Well, this is inspired by Kevin talking about Joe Rule
and Nelly last week, and I was like, well, Nelly,
he's got some bangers. I don't know about Jow Rule.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
As someone said, Jay Kwan made an appearance.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Jay Kwan saying tipsy and then lest what she did?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
What do you do? Well? I mean, what more do
you need to say? That time you go?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I couldn't stand that song.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
I was waiting for Kevin Paul out the band aid
right there and put it on his cheek all right.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Time to move on to the Indianapolis Cults in preseason
game number two on the broadcast, Joe Wright's joining us
now on the Payless Liquors hotline. We all know Joe,
former Colts player and very popular guy here in the area.
Good morning, Joe, how are you doing? Are you a
big jaw Rule guy?
Speaker 6 (00:49):
Big jaw Rule guy? I was maybe at you know,
seventeen or eighteen, but probably stopped about nineteen. But yeah, no,
he had a big concert with Nelly last and they
were rocking there over at Ruoff. There you go, Yeah,
a little jew everybody use little juice on Monday mornings, right,
A little bit tired, yes, a little bit sweepy rolling in.
So I do love Monday mornings though, because you got
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to bring that high juice to start.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
The week off right, no question about that. So I'll
ask you the same thing I asked each of our
Steam colleagues here, Kevin Bowen and James Boyd a moment ago,
where are you at on quarterback one right now?
Speaker 6 (01:27):
Well, watching the game and calling it with Matt Taylor.
I thought both guys had one really good drive. And
you saw that drive and said, okay, this is what
the quarterback position should look like for the Indianapolis Colts. Now,
they both had a couple of moments you'd like that back.
I think, you know Jones early on that quarterback center exchange,
which you rarely see, I think that rattle him a
little bit, and he missed the throne a warn the
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next time. And then after Richardson had just a great
drive leading the team down the field, you know, then
he was a little bit behind on a couple passes
going there. So in my opinion. Both guys did good things,
but neither guys separated himself against the Green Bay Packers.
But if you listen to Shansteigen's comments postgame, you know
it sounds like he's close to making a decision. And
I don't think the game first, say, on Saturday afternoon,
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is going to necessarily change maybe what his gut or
instinct was. So at the end of the day, that's
sort of it's a gut decision. It's you're taking everything
that you know about Richardson, You're taking everything that you
know about Jones, and you experienced in the preseason from
OTAs through camp on a day to day process, and guys,
I still say that, you know, there's so much stuff
that goes on behind the scenes that we don't see
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as fans. Right we see camp, we see the preseason games,
the joint practices. We're not sitting on the meetings when
they're going through film. They're talking through schemes and what's
your check and what you see from the defense here
and how do you think the safeties rolled coverage pre
snap to try to decide it. So, but it sounds
like there's going to be a decision probably sooner than later.
And everybody keeps asking me, when do you need to
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know as a player, I'm like, you need to know
when the head coach tells you to go. But I
would imagine that either you know before the game, you
know right after the game with Sincy, you're gonna have
your decision, and you're gonna have two weeks to get
ready for the season, and you're gonna roll with what
you got. But I think the good thing is there's
been a lot of competition, not only there but throughout camp,
and I do think that's raised both guys because you know, hey,
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if I have a bad day or two, the other
guy's going to get the edge and nothing will bring
out the best competitors, and all of us like having
somebody right there that you're both competing for the same job.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Forty four career starts plus three in the playoffs. Show
rights with us here and then you heard him, of
course with Matt Taylor over the weekend on the Colts
Radio Network. Joe, you mentioned behind the scenes, and that
is probably a really good thing to point out. And
I know you can't really boil it down to this
simple with the quarterback competition, but as a player, and
obviously you didn't really deal with quarterback competitions, But as
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a player, would you rather have the quarterback with the
higher floor or the higher ceiling.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
That's a hypothetical question, and so I don't really have
an answer for it because I think they both bring
different skill sets. I think when you're talking about Daniel Jones,
I think you know again, you know, you say, Okay,
well he's played longer, he's got more experience. But Richardson,
I mean, he has so much talent and there's things
that Anthony Richardson can do that really no other quarterback
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in the NFL can do. So I'm excited to see
what the decision is. I know that the guys, I'm
sure is exciting to And I think that's the other
thing too. I mean, you know, I'm not going to
speak to anything, and I don't know anything, but I
would imagine that there's guys in the locker room that
are going to Shane stiking too and saying, hey, you
know what about this? What do you think about this?
And you know, Shame said it's going to be a
culative decision and he's going to get input from a
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lot of people. But the end of the day, he's
going to make it. So the fact though, that you
have a head coach that's a quarterback guru or quarterback
whisper or whatever you want to call it, I think
that's an advantage too.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
Right.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
It's different than if your head coach is a defensive
coach and you know, maybe he didn't play the position.
But you know, if anybody's going to have a beat
on what they want and what they want this offense
to look like, it's going to be somebody that's got
all the quarterback experience, play calling experiences, somebody like Shane Steigen.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Joe beyond the quarterback play. One of the biggest developments
I thought from that game was just some of the
injury the injuries that took place throughout Saturday's game, and
unfortunately for Blake Freeland that involved a serious ride leg injury. Obviously,
you played this game, you played, you played on the
offensive line, But what did you think of just a
team's reaction to coming out there and kind of giving
him some words of encouragement through obviously what's going to
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be a difficult, you know road ahead.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Yeah, first off, you feel horrible for Freeland because you
see the play happen, and when you're engaged with the
d lineman like that and you get rolled up on,
I mean, it just looked really bad from the start,
and then they bring the card out. I did think
it was really neat, kind of touching that the whole
team went out there and was talking to him and
you know, patting them on the chest and dapping them
up and praying for him, and uh, that just shows
I think the closeness of this team. And so yeah,
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unfortunate for Freeland. You know, guys played played a lot
of snaps for the Colts. But you know, that's the
thing about football, It's the brutality of the sport is
the game moves on. And I do think that Jalen Travis,
who played pretty much whole game at left tackle, I
thought he did some really nice things. He plays mostly
right tackle. During camp, I thought he held his own
at left tackle, and so it looks like he's going
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to be your swing guy. But I was excited about Travis.
He's a big man, he's a strong man, and I think,
you know, when you look at the Colts draft and
think about it, I mean, Warren is I had high
expectations for Warren and they're even beyond that now. Just
watching him play, I mean, he's gonna bring such a
different dimension to this Colts team. Then you go to
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the second round and JT. I thought he's played really
well during camp. He's flash ding games both in the
run in the past. Wale unfortunate for him because he
was having such a good camp and Lyon really to
be the starter. But anything about Travis DJ Giddens, he's
the guy who wanted to highlight too on the show
because he's got a patience and a vision for running
backs you don't often see in rookies. There was one
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play Saturday when he had the ball and most guys
are just gonna take it and run it, he kind
of set it up. He was patient a little bit,
almost had his hand on the offensive lineman following his blockers.
So again, Uh, it's early in terms of the twenty
twenty five NFL Draft, and I always laugh when the
day after people give draft game draft grades. It's like,
how do you know this team? These guys are gonna
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be good. No, nobody's played a snap yet. But I
do think that the twenty twenty five draft is setting
up to be really solid for the Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Hey, Joe, you know I love my post draft grades,
my mock draft that are always wrong. This is you
know this, this is what you know. Keep the lights
on at that time of the year.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
What was your grade?
Speaker 5 (07:30):
I have no idea I can even tell you what
these grades are. And I laugh. People tell me like
this is so pointless, and it's like, well, if you
saw numbers and the clicks, man, you would know why
we do it. But in all seriousness, going back to
Tyler Warren, I know you said that you were high
on them. What made you, I guess a bit more
convinced that he'll be an impact player as a rookie?
Is it just seeing it happen in a game setting
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the last two weeks?
Speaker 6 (07:53):
Yeah, I mean, he dominated college, but I think his
physicality has been more than I thought at the NFL level.
And just how fluid he is route running. He's just
got a knack for finding ways to get open and
he's so big his catch radius and being fluid and
running routes. I mean, you know, the Colt's tight end
production was thirty two out of thirty two in the
NFL last year. But when you think about him, Moally.
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I think Will Mallory has had a quiet, really good
training camp and that's a position that the Colts need
to get a lot more production this year, and you
fully expected to led by number eighty four.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Always good to talk to you, Joe. Great job this
past weekend. We appreciate your thoughts and hope things go
well for you all week long.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
All right, sounds good. Well, thanks for having me on fellas.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
There you are. He might be might at one point
in time, for a brief moment in time, been the
biggest jar roof in Indianapolis.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Right now, I could see Joe Wright's having a time
or two up at Deer Creek back in the day.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
I just love how he said he was a jaw
wu fran for all of like eighteen months.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Seventeen year old, fifteen years old is what he went
with there. Yes, one final job roll party before you're
off the Western Michigan.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
That's exactly how it works. Anything that he said that
sparked your interest.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
There, I agree with the DJ Giddens assessment. I think
that he's shown some stuff throughout preseason, and really he's
a bit more of a complete back than I thought.
I think coming out In my mind, I'm like, oh,
this's got called a lot of passes in college. He
give me the third down back. But my understanding is
that they believe he can be, you know, a guy
who can play more than just on third downs, and
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he can contribute as a runner more so than just
as a pass catcher out of the backfield. So you
saw some of the vision that he has, and I
think that he's trending up right now.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Yeah. When Chris Ballard has compared him before to Marlon Mack.
When he said that, I was like, wow, that makes
a ton of sense. When I watch DJ Giddens run,
I definitely think a little bit of Marlon Max. So yeah,
running back wise, you know, Jonathan Taylor and DJ Giddens
are obvious and then James who knows. I mean that
Tyler Goodson injury, I felt awful. I wrote something on
our website. You know ten guys that I thought really
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had a nice camp and improved their stock, and to me,
Goodson was one of them, and so I felt bad
for him that he got hurt among others on Saturday again,
right now, I mean, if I go through this fifty
three a man roster I could probably count twelve thirteen
guys dealing with injuries that I would have to make
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the team. That's a huge number. And again, roster cuts
a week from Tuesday, we're less than three weeks away
from the start of the regular season. Obviously, some of
those guys are going to get back, but some of
them you're gonna have to factor in. Oh wait, how
long are they out? Do we put them on ir
to come back? Are they going to be back within
the first four weeks of the season. It's a lot
of roster gymnastics for Chris Bauer and Chainstyken and company
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here over the next eight days.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
All right, we'll get some of your text line thoughts
coming up in a few minutes here, but also over
the weekend and yesterday specifically, Indiana Fever got an incredible
comeback win, which we talked a little bit at the
beginning of the show Down twenty one. They come back
and they beat Connecticut on the road. But another key injury,
and we don't know how bad it's going to be.
James Boyd, you saw the injury with Sophie Cunningham. We
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all know what the worst possible could be, like an
acl or something like that. But how many injuries can
this team withstand and keep plugging on. I mean, I
think that's one of the reasons Stuffing Right was so
emotional in her postgame comments and in the locker room
l after the game last night.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Yeah, And one of the things I try to do,
I don't really speculate on injury is we don't know
how serious or non serious it is. We'll have to
wait and see what the team says. So that's my
opinion on the nature of the injury. But yeah, I
thought that they responded pretty well. They were dead in
the water therefore a large portion of that game, and honestly,
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they made it more difficult they probably had to be.
And I get that some of that probably is like
the mental side of it. We see another player go
down and having a rally. But that would have been
a horrendous loss against the Connecticut Sun, and obviously it
turned out to be a very big win for this
team because one thing, the Connecticut son are terrible. They're
not a good team at all, one of the worst
teams in the league, if not the worst. They actually
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are the worst team in the league. So having two
losses to him on your resume would have been a
hard one to get over. So then on top of that,
just looking at the standings, man like, it is very
very tight right now. The Fever are currently in the
sixth seed right now, one half win or half win
or half game over the Golden State Valkyries, and you know,
they're they're right there between being in the playoffs and
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out of the playoffs. So I think that's a huge
when for this team, let alone the schedule coming up, Kevin.
I know you've probably taken a peek at it, but
they've got some really good teams on the horizon. So
that one last night I think was a big, big
win for them because it does not get any easier
for this team. And not saying it was easy last night,
but yeah, it doesn't get easier.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Yeah. I think honestly, the Stephanie White emotion post game,
you know, I don't know, maybe a little bit of
it is going back to Connecticut, but I thought it
was just so layered in everything that transpired yesterday. First off,
you have Sophie Cunningham go down on what looked to
be an awful injury. Will await word on that, and
you're thinking to yourself oh bleep, How the bleep is
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this happening again? Like, yeah, it's unbelievable that the Fever
continue to have these injuries, and you know, they look
to be serious injuries with Art McDonald and Sidney Colson
and all of that, and then the unbelievable comeback and
Kelsey Mitchell showing why she's one of the greatest players,
probably on the very short list of greatest players ever
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to play for the Fever. Honestly, she's probably right behind
Tamika catchings. And then you'd think about the standings like
that that win, if you were to lose that game,
that's three in a row, and James, you know you
just pointed out kind of cause not good. You know,
these would fall into the categories of like, oh my gosh,
when's Caitlyn coming back? When is she not coming back?
You know, like one of these of you know, Stephanie
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White sain pregame yesterday, I hope she comes back for
the end of the season. Well, James, anytime I hear
our coach say hope, I hope to go play augusta
national something.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Yeah, I saw a lot of different reactions to that.
Kevin about you know, oh my gosh, she's coming back
like very soon, so oh my gosh, she's off the
rest of the season. But the truth is her comments
yesterday were no different than what we've heard, which is
that she's out and definitely and we'll just see you
from there.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah, I mean, it just you know, in the NFL
right now, I think we're dealing with this a little
bit with Matthew Stafford situation. Yeah, I mean, it's just
a lot of uncertainty around when is going to be
the return for Caitlin Clark this week. They don't play
till Friday, so you have a practice Wednesday and a
practice Thursday. To me, those would be day two circle
on the calendar for her. You know, we're at a
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month now post injury here, so does she get out
there this weekend because again, their regular season is starting
to come to a close there. So amidst all of
it and the Sophie Counningham injury being the biggest news,
I did think that postgame locker room was was pretty cool.
You know, a regular season win. To see the emotion
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that Stephanie White had, you don't typically get that in
pro sports.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
And then next up they have Minnesota at home, they
have Minnesota on the road at her home. They got
you know, Los Angeles Sparks who had that number of
this season, Golden State Vakyriz who smoked him at home
earlier this year. So that was a huge win last
night because it does not get any easier opponent wise
for the rest of the way.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
All right, Uh, we've been talking about Stephanie White and
how emotional she was. There was a clip that The
Fever put out of her talking to the team after
the game and just talking about how proud she was.
But just listen to her voice, and you know what
this team is starting to mean to her.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
So are you.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
I'm so proud of you, guys. I know that sometimes
it sounds like when we talk about being resilient, but
it's not, man, it's how we live. It's how y'all live.
And it's a tribute to you. It's a tribute to
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your connectedness, your togetherness, your your your toughness, your mindset.
You never give up gritty attitudes like that's what it takes,
that's what it takes. We will never never be it
out because that it's worth goal. That is worth go kels,
(16:08):
God damn big. Put us on your back, Oh big
time breezing. You are the consummate professional. We love you,
we appreciate you. You were huge ad point forward, It's like, look,
(16:33):
you can't underestimate what it means to have somebody like
her who just does whatever we ask, right, does whatever.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
I mean, everybody really likes.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
That was a huge.
Speaker 8 (16:45):
Gotash your activity all and that's what it's gonna take.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Hey, that's what it's gonna take.
Speaker 8 (16:53):
We gotta play free, we gotta.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Play with no pressure.
Speaker 8 (16:56):
But we fight live that idiots every day and we
will accomplish what we want to accomplish.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Okay, so there you go. Obviously very emotional afterwards. I'm
ready something to do with the enjoy the win. You're good,
I'm contesting. I'm ready. I'm ready.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
I'll run through a brick wall for Stephanie White after
hearing that. But no, that was awesome. I think that's
a good reminder there, Jeff, of what sports means people.
And it's not just the money the attention of fame.
I think sometimes you can get lost in that. But that,
to me was a speech given by someone who's loved
basketball her entire life, and she's responding to a group
of women who have rallied, competed and done it in
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a way that is very endearing. It reminds me of
the Pacers, where it's the underdog kind of spirit. We're
never really out of it until it's over. And yeah,
dare I say that they have done some special things
this season in spite of Kitlin Clark's injury, so big
one yesterday and then again, I just feel so good
for Kelsey Mitch who's playing meaningful basketball after you know,
some dog dog Daisy years really with this franchise, so
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special stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah. So the combination of thirty four O or thirty
eight after halftime for Kelsey Mitchell and that togetherness that
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(18:24):
seven five the Fan. Those are the words at the
end there of Shane Steike and talking about his quarterback situation.
Good morning and welcome into the Fan Morning Show, Kevin Bowen,
James Poyd, I'm Jeff Rickert along with Mark Dyketon, and
we'll get some of your comments on the fan text
line in a moment here at two three nine ten seventy.
But Kevin, I'll say for those just joining us, and
we talked about this about a half an hour ago.
Listening to those comments by Shane Steike, and it sounds
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like he just wants to talk to a few folks
this morning. It feels like just the tone in his voice.
I've had three weeks of this, I'm close. Maybe he
just wants to get some feedback at this point in time,
and maybe he gets talked into let's look at him
one more time this week again. Who knows?
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Mean part of me here's that and thinks, James Tomorrow
eleven fifteen am Shane Steak and meets the media, does
he announce it? Does he tell the guys today and
announce it tomorrow?
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Yeah, A part of me thinks that if he tells
the guys today, we might see a leak today and
then tomorrow he would officially address it. But that would
be my thinking behind it. I mean day off yesterday,
everyone I do want to know? I thought about this
driving in today. Actually, like, what do you do if
you're a quarterback and the day's off, you're not going
to hear anything? What do you do? Just sit in
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your like living room and just with the lights off
and just think about, Oh my gosh, it all comes
down to this. So what do you do? Do you hang
out with your family? Do you tell everybody leave me alone?
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Show up a Shane's house playing with those kids?
Speaker 5 (19:39):
And yeah, you know, is there anything else?
Speaker 4 (19:41):
I'm serious?
Speaker 5 (19:42):
But do you know of anything else you could.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Throw the football?
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Do you kidnap a couple of the wide receivers and
say hey, let's go do something together and then if
you don't get the job, you tell them, well you
can walk back? Or how did that go?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I think the correct answer is you go home, you
watch film, and you take no and study the playbook
and get ready for your next practice, right, and.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Yeah you probably have to, but it is I'm very
curious to hear, and I think Anthony has been more
open about it. Just the nature of that, you know,
the the duality of having to be a good teammate
had to be ready, but also realizing that man if
I don't get this opportunity. I'm gonna be very disappointed.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Did you think Anthony sided or reserved after the game
Saturday to like, I don't think I have this job?
Am I reading way too much in Anthony Richardson's words
post game?
Speaker 5 (20:32):
I think so. I think he's kind of been like
that since he honestly was bench last year. Since he's
come back, he's been a lot more, in my opinion,
from that down to earth and sort of grounded in
a sense that he wasn't before. And I'm saying he
was like super arrogant before, but I think that there
is a sense of humility and a sense of mortality
where it's like, oh, everything isn't necessarily in my fingertips
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all the time when I wanted to be. So I
think that he just he's taking like the more mature
I've learned some things approached, But deep down I think
he knows, you know, I want to be the guy
and I need to be the guy.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
There is part of me. It sits here and you know, again,
it sounds like a decision is very eminent, and we
just watched the last three weeks unfold. Anthony Richardson did
not miss a single team practice session. Yes, he did
obviously leave the Baltimore game early, but didn't miss a single.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Team also wanted back in no too right, say it again,
he wanted back into that game too.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I don't really think that that matters too much, but
you know, again his fault for the injury leading to
him exit the game. He doesn't miss a single practice.
Wrap of the two quarterbacks, he led the only touchdown
drive in the preseason, and the touchdown drive he led
I thought was the exact type of drive you want
to see from him. Twelve plays, ninety yards, methodical, right arm,
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you know, just boom.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
He kept it going amid a couple of penalties too,
that brought him back right.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Yeah, he played from behind the chains a few times,
five or six on the drive. I would argue the
one in completion probably wasn't even his fault, just you know,
a genial vashion deal and thought the ball was coming
or what so. And yet I sit here right now
and I think Shane Steichen's gonna pick Tangel Jones, which
is got it good?
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Can you elaborate on that? And is okay? So I've
heard you say this, and I was talking to Stephen
Holder about this after the game as well, and he
has me thinking that man could say, you really choose
Daniel And one of his reasons was because of the
comments made after the game about the operational part of
being a quarterback And is that part of why you
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think he might lean in that direction because a lot
of it isn't just pure throwing. If that makes sen.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Yeah, I thought Chane emphasized that a couple of different
times post game. And again, James, what is the one
word he's used since March?
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Consistency?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
That has been the word he has always come back to.
And you know, we had Joe wrights On a little
bit ago. You know, I asked Joe, Okay, what would
you prefer as a player? Would you want the quarterback
that off you a little bit of a higher floor
or would you want the quarterback that offers you more
of the ceiling? And it seems like when they drafted
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Anthony Richardson it was all about the latter. For the Colts.
It was, Yeah, you got to create big plays and
you need someone that can offer, you know, the stuff
you can't drop on a white board and when everything
breaks down, can you make that play? I eve Anthony
Gould throw that Anthony had on Saturday, but now it
seems like it is shifted towards No. We've done that
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song and dance, and right now I need a quarterback
that I can largely trust. And I think that Baltimore
play of how Anthony Richardson got hurt, I could just
see that mattering a whole lot to Shane Stige, and
I don't have a strong conviction, to be clear either way.
I would start Richardson. I think you need clarity and
you need to stop with all the excuses and figure
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out if you got something or not. That's the path
I would go down. But in Shane's eyes, he just
has always talked like more the Jones guy, I think
throughout this offseason, and maybe I'm reading too much of
a man who says very few words, but that's how
I felt. Do you not feel that way, James?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Would you?
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Do you think Shane Stichen will say who I guess
to just put it blown, I think he'll say Anthony Richardson.
Do you think he'll be Richardson?
Speaker 5 (24:15):
And I think it will be Richardson. And I think
that because again I go back to not necessarily what
he's his words have been because I, like you said,
trying to pars through Shane Stichen's words, there are not
many of them, and I feel like whenever I do that,
I could talk myself either way. But my general thinking
is kind of along the lines of what I think
me and Jeff and really all of us have said
throughout these last two weeks on the show is that
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if it's close, you would think you leaned towards the
guy you drafted number four just a few years ago,
because in my opinion, Daniel Jones has done nothing to
win the job. Now I won't say that he's done
like anything to lose the job necessarily, but Ty goes
to the runner. Ty goes to the guy you had
here already.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
In my opinion, yeah, I go back and it didn't
count because my guy Mitchell messed it up. But the
play that he made it just it's tantalizing.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Right.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
He is big and strong and athletic enough to get
away from a sack and then he put the ball
on the money. What thirty thirty five yards downfield?
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Right the thirty game they got negated by Adie Mitchell
being off sides.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yes, I don't know. Can Daniel Jones do that.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
I think he can in some instances. I'm not saying
that throw in particular.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
But Daniel Jones ain't making that that play.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
You know, I meant like just to down the field
stuff like we saw him pushing down the field for
example with Tyler Warren. But again, you say that Daniel
Jones ain't making that play, which I'm not arguing that,
but like, do the Colts think they need need their
quarterback to make that?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Well, that's kind of what I was getting at, is
what like Jeff brings up that play. I would think
the thing that resonates more Shane Styke and leaving Saturday though,
is Anthony Richardson did lead again a very methodical touchdown drive.
Like that's where you want to see growth that play
he made Anthony Gould. We know Anthony Richardson can do that.
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He has done that in the NFL. It's more of
the reverse of it. I thought, honestly, one of the
things I was struck by postgame two and James, you
asked Daniel Jones's question, James, what Daniel Jones has spoken
to the media. What do you think eight times here
in his Colt career six times in his Colts career.
I don't think I've walked away one time thinking wow,
that was interesting. And then postgame he says this and like,
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I don't know if he meant it in this manner,
but James and corigt me are wrong. You asked him
something to the effect of like, hey, what do you
think you've done to earn the job?
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Yeah? You know, I basically said, what do you think
you've shown the coaches to make an argument? To be
qb one? I mean, because he keeps tap dancing around
the competition. Every time we ask him directly about it.
He's just like, Oh, I'm just here to compete and
be a good teammate.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Bomped that.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
I'm like, I'm not trying to hear that anymore. You
came here to take somebody's job. Have you done enough
to do that?
Speaker 4 (26:58):
On more money Minnesota? For say exactly, that was my question.
Here's what he had to sell. And just one more
additional thing for context. Here his answer. It almost sounded
like he was literally saying, what are Anthony Richardson's weaknesses?
Oh yeah, let me say that out loud. And here's
Daniel Jones.
Speaker 9 (27:19):
Just tried to show up every day and improve grow
in my understanding of the offense, and and make good
decisions consistently. I think that's been something I've I've always
tried to do and uh, and we'll continue to work on.
But I think consistent decision making and uh, you know,
throwing the ball accurately accurately, I think that's a huge
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part of playing the positions. You know, that's something I've
tried to do.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, that's an undeniable asset in the National Football League.
There's no question consistent decision making, throwing the ball accuracy
accurately is a huge part of playing the position. If
you had to sit there and say, what are two
things you have questions about with Anthony, you would say, well,
inconsistent decision making and throwing the ball inaccurately.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I just when Daniel Jones said that out loud of like,
that is unbelievable that I don't know if he was
trying to do that, but he's not, Like he's not
wrong in the answer.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
No. I just found it hilarious that the guy that
again has not said anything interesting for six months says
that seemingly forty eight hours before we're about to get
this quarterback decision.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
And again it seems to be high ceiling but low
floor versus high floor and low ceiling. It feels like
that's that's your choice right now, James.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
Fun time, I was gonna say, I don't know what
else to really, you know, Okay, here's my other thing
I wanted to get into.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
This is a.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
I don't know if I'm just bored in the media
because I get sick of people, you know, giving you
these cliche answers. Oh, Anthony, it's not up to me.
I get the job, thank god, if I don't got
to keep working. Yeah, but like you want the job?
And so do you think either quarterback would have been
a little bit more definitive in their answers? But why
they we should about why they should be the starter?
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If they had done more to be the starter, Like
do you think we would have gotten anything else? Because
I feel like both guys are saying, like, you know,
I knew I didn't do a whole lot to maybe
impress you, but like I'm not even better than that guy, right,
Like again, that's not like.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Go to in dating that guy, right.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Aaron Tuxson says that he pictures Shane Stikeen as the Bachelor,
wondering who to give the Blue Rose to.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
I'm serious though, but like, will we have gotten some
more definitive kind of like from either guy? Because either
guy is like, well, you know, I'm just trying to
get better every day, and I'm like, well, have you
gotten any better.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
To play the bachelor? Sort of analogy there, that's Daniel
Jones grabbing shaanesychings, Hey can we go out to the
fire just one last time? I got one more thing
I need to say, And hey, can I steal you
from a minute's ways?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Do you know what's really going on right there?
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Can I take you to Ralston's for a date on
mass Ave? And you know I'm gonna I'm gonna throw
these comments and like that. That's what it felt like.
I'm jotting this downmore having Daniel Jones say those comments.
What what do you guys think of? Again the question
that I threw, Joe writes internally in that locker room,
what do they want? The higher floor of the higher ceiling.
(30:31):
If you were a player in that locker room, Let's
say you're Jonathan Taylor, would you rather have the higher floor?
Theoretically in Jones or the higher ceiling theoretically and Richardson.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I feel like I'd want the guy who has the
chance to have the higher, higher ceiling to again, who
hasn't had a ton of opportunities, A lot of reasons
why not getting into that, But I feel like I
want to roll with Anthony Richardson, and well, it just
becomes untenable before it's two la. I mean, you don't
go three four games, But do you see if he's
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made don't you want to see if he's made a
step forward at some point with as much as you've
invested him in and everything else. And again, Shane Steigen
might feel like his job's on the line. I gotta
I can't worry about this guy's future. I gotta worry
about my future and the immediate future. And again, we
look at a team that was eight and nine last year,
that probably led a couple of games slip away James
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and better decision making and taking care of the football
in certain situations may and maybe some better field goal
kicking and some key points. Maybe that makes you all
of a sudden, you go from eight to nine to
either nine and eight or ten and seven. Do you
look at it that way with some of the additions
and upgrades you've made on defense.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Yeah, I think that's part of it. That's certainly in
the conversation. Man. I think if I'm in that locker room,
I probably want ar mainly because one, he's been there longer,
I have layship with him, and you've seen glimpses of
what it looks like when it clicks. And I go
back to the Jets game last year. If there's any
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Ar truthers out there, they're gonna look at that game
and say, you really want to pass? Do you really
want to pass this up? When's the last time Daniel
Jones had a game like this? And it probably goes
back to twenty twenty two when he had one of
those games against the Colts ironically, But I also wonder too, though,
when it comes to Anthony, like after he got his
finger messed up in the preseason opener, how many guys
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in that locker room thought, you know what, this guy
always gets hurt.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Well, that would be the counter to it, James, is
if you're a guy in the locker room, and let's
just speak to that play for a second, you're one
of those guys that was out there. DJ Giddens on
that play, or Tyler Warren on that play, or you know,
probably I should go with a little bit more of
a veteran. You did everything right on that play. Ten
of you were on the same page. One of you
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made the mistake, and it could if that's a real game.
Let's say that ball it's yard loose. So ten offensive
players are on the same page, and yet you just
had a stripsack in your own territory against a team
that you're probably a touchdown underdog against. That is disastrous
when you speak from an NFL game point of view.
So I could see the locker room, like our our
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poll to start of the camp mark was what eighty
five percent Colts fans won. Richardson, Yes, that that locker
room to me would be a lot closer to fifty
to fifty. Like, yeah, I can hear you, Jeff of like, yeah,
you know, higher ceiling and you know healthy offseason and
the play to Anthony Gould, you know Daniel Jones isn't
making that. Yes, then if you're a part of that
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locker room and you watch the play against Baltimore, you're thinking,
wait a minute, we all sit in the same meetings
and ten of us are on the same page, but
you're not, and that just costs us a football game. Yeah,
you can.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Would you be so let me put it to you
this way, Would you be surprised by the announcement of
either guy tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (33:58):
No? No, I know either guy. I mean, James, I
don't know if you've probably done this, but I'll probably
at some point today. Right, both guys have been named
the starter articles. So like Kevin at three h five,
it's one of those situations where like I could see
it being both ways. Yeah, I definitely could. And for
those curious about the Colt schedule this week, they will
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practice Tomorrow Wednesday, Thursday. Believe we actually still get to
watch the full practices, right James.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Yes, I got that clarified with Colts PR.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
So I put this. They're back at their own facility,
we get to watch the full practices. And while Shane
hasn't committed to a date per se, obviously, he said
on Saturday that he's close to a decision, it wouldn't
stun me if he announced that tomorrow before their first practice.
So again, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, off to Cincinnati Friday, and
we'll await what the preseason finale plan will be against
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the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
July twenty third, I tweeted on the show account do
you want the Colts starting who? Do you want the
Colts starting quarterback?
Speaker 6 (34:55):
To? Being?
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Twenty twenty five?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Eighty two point four percent, said Anthony Richardson, You think
that's any different? Like a little over a month later,
almost a month later, if I put that tweet out,
I'd probably say it might be more more in favor
of AR at this point.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't think that would change overwhelming. Again,
I brought it up more from a locker room, so
like if you asked that same question mark to the
locker of truth here, you know what would be that
A I think you would have a heavy divide within
that room of what they would want. And what does
that do for the locker room too?
Speaker 3 (35:28):
If like the guy that you prefer doesn't get the like,
are you gonna play any different?
Speaker 8 (35:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Pissed off? Well part of me?
Speaker 9 (35:35):
Thing?
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Nah, I don't think so. Honestly, I think if you
are a true professional in that locker room, and let's
say they pick Daniel Jones and you're an AR person,
you're probably thinking, well, he had his opportunities and now
we got to go win.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Well, and and you got your own freaking job to
worry about it exactly. If you play defense for the Colts,
there's you've contributed to Gus Bradley getting fired. And if
you play the offensive line for the Colts, right now,
I think you've got a little bit more questions about
that group.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Then I thought, oh, now you're speaking my language, Mark Dayton.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Oh this is the plist.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
This isn't the playlist. I like this, this good stuff.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
All right?
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Thanks for an artist.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah, I don't know if that can but I know
I listened to it a lot.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
What is it, Mark? Who is it a game?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Well, this is a fifty unit remix, but yes, i'll
do the game in fifty But yes, very good.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
A lot of the time I'll hear it with my wife.
She likes she really likes a lot of that music.
She'll play it and I'll just prooved it.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I'll tell you another guy that we grew to. It's
a victory Monday too for the Indiana Fever. So we
got another victory Monday. Tony East covers The Pacers and
the Fever and he joins us now in the Payless
Liquors hotline. Good morning, Tony East, how you doing today?
Speaker 7 (36:46):
Good morning, I sincerely hope I am not in anyone's playlist,
but have it here.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Well, you're here today, You're on our playlist. We appreciate that,
you know. We we we saw in a Fever come
from behind win over a team that's not all that good,
but they match up apparently well with the Fever because
they give them fits every time they come up with
an overtime win over Connecticut ninety nine ninety three. They
were twenty one points down and we saw a very
(37:11):
emotional Stepphannie White post game in the locker room. And
I would imagine that that emotion comes from perhaps another
big injury coming. We'll find out today to Sophia Cunningham.
But Caitlin Clark's been out for fourteenth straight games. We've
had injury after injury after injury. What did you make
of her postgame remarks?
Speaker 7 (37:30):
Yeah, it was not surprising, I suppose, but I just
it did strike me that how emotional she was after a.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Game like that.
Speaker 7 (37:37):
I mean, the sun, the sun stink, right, And I
think that that the fact that she came to the
presser with that, you know, intense passion after a win
like that, it says a lot about the state of
affairs for the team that I mean, they just keep
dropping like flies.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
That would be their fourth ball.
Speaker 7 (37:53):
Handler from this season that is out if Cunningham's going
to miss any time, Like that's like all the right,
It's just Kelsey Mitchell left basically, and obviously they filled
them more now. So to be in that situation where
you know, she's she's telling us she was like swearing
internally when when Sophie goes down and they have whatever
thirty one points halfway through the third quarter and then win,
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like you know that that's a coal like everything coalesces
to to finally play the way they hoped they could
for whatever that was, to close the game seventeen minutes,
and you know, it could not have come at a
better time. Like they looked really bad at home last
week again, some not great teams, the Sun or the
worst team in the league.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
By a record.
Speaker 7 (38:33):
They're not like a terrible worst team, but they're pretty bad.
You know, they needed to find a way to do
that and for the players to respond the way they
did and play the way if you hope they can
without Clark like they have at times this season, Like
that's what a coach hopes to see her team do.
And obviously it took Kelsey Mitchell super heroics, but it
was awesome to see you know how much that that
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win meant, especially on the day when everything else went
their way standings wise, So that I mean, that was
a huge, huge, huge day for the Fever, despite them
beating a team that everybody thought they should beat anyway.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Tony hat tip, I thought the mother bleeping adjective used
in a tweet to describe Kelsey Mitchell yesterday was very needed.
So great work with that. I won't say it here
to save my John.
Speaker 7 (39:19):
I save that word for like once a year, so
you know it means something when it comes out, like,
oh yeah, thirty seven point a half for w player
is crazy. That was unreal.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
You met the moment like she did with that tweet.
So great work by Tony East on that. Okay, Caitlyn
Clark update, nothing today, nothing tomorrow. On the floor Wednesday
Thursday practice, Stephanie White says the hope is she will
be back before the end of the regular season. I
start to get nervous. If we get through this week
and there's nothing on the floor, would you be nervous too.
Speaker 7 (39:50):
I would agree with that, Like I don't necessarily know that,
I would say, oh, she's gotta play by this week,
you know, for whatever reason, I'm.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Not saying playing to be clear, I'm saying she needs
I think.
Speaker 7 (40:00):
Yes, totally agree like they and this is the time,
right because you know they have four days to to
have the on ramp kind of happen towards you know,
we finally hear three on three or five on five
or just something where a basketball is being drible and
she's wearing a fever kit.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
You know, at.
Speaker 7 (40:19):
Practice would because you have a chance to really do it,
Like this is a big league for them to work
in Odyssey Simms. And if they get another hard to
player because the gun hand, that's great, But like Clark
is the thing to focus on in practice this week
if they can, and like they have a lot of
road games to close their season. Obviously they play the
leagu's at home this week, but you know that they
have Seattle like the following weekend and a couple of
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other home games. Were's like maybe this is the time
it makes sense if it's going to happen, and would
you have a random like They've played I think the
most games of any team in the league.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
I'd have to double check that.
Speaker 7 (40:50):
I believe that there are ten games left with the
fewest of anybody, And so that does and in theory
now give them a chance to have practice time, which
is so rare this late in the season, and they
have to use it to if they can get Clark
some practice time on the floor so her return and smoother.
And so I agree that if we hear nothing of
the sorts of you know, on the hardwood dribbling doing
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something throughout three, five and five, that's when I'd do that. Huh.
Maybe that hope is just hope. But if something does
come up, then then that'd be great for them because
they've been everybody this year. At some point they they're peak.
Shows they have a chance, but they needed to play
to have that chance.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
Tony, how big was that win yesterday? And I'm not
saying that as a cliche because of the fashion in
which they did it, but just knowing where they are
in the standings and who's up next on the docket, Yeah,
I mean.
Speaker 7 (41:36):
They're they're scheduled the rest of the way. If you
check you Tankathon has remaining strength to schedule. They have
the hardest strength of schedule by like five percentage points
of opponent win percentage, Like it's much harder than anybody
else's And that's why this whole this last four games
they played, they played the worst four teams in the
league by record. They played DC, Connecticut, Dallas, and I'm
(42:00):
missing one for the Chicago, Like they needed to clean
up in that stretch. They did not do great, but
that's why they needed that win so bad, like to
get any sort of cushion before their schedule gets harder,
like this week they just play the Leaks and Colliers
status is improving, and that's the best team in the league,
Like buy a good amount.
Speaker 6 (42:17):
They're amazing, and.
Speaker 7 (42:18):
They play lots of good teams the rest of the
way if they're gonna hold off other teams or even
keep up. Like it's so hard to talk about what
their goals should be because they're kind of equidistant from home
court advantage and just straight up missing the playoffs. But
I think their goal should be to make it first
and foremost. If they're going to do that, they need
to win games. They need to win probably twenty three games,
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twenty two games would be my guess, and winning five
of their last ten would be like pretty impressive given
how challenging their schedule is, and so giving themselves an
extra win before that was just so huge already, and
they got every result they needed yesterday. The Valkyries lost,
the Storm lost, the Sparks somehow lost in the Mystics,
joining the Fevers trend from Friday, So the perfect time
(43:00):
to get a win like that in terms of like
confidence and as we saw with Stephanie might postgame like emotion,
combining it with the losses front of the teams, the
Fever upcoming schedule, like they really really needed it and
they got it, and now they have four days to
kind of regroup and hope some of those teams lose again.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Tony Aast host the Locked On Pacers podcast. You can
also see his work in Forbes, ESB Nation, Bleacher Report, WTHR,
other various publications. He covers both the Pacers and the Fever.
Move on to the Pacers real quick. I think we
talked about this just for a minute last week, but
as tyrese Haliburton moving on without crutches in the scooter
at this point in time.
Speaker 7 (43:37):
Yeah, he sure said it. He did a great job
of making his He's the only guy who would make
his no crutch, no boot picture of Puma thing. But yeah,
he's got his new shoes, he's got no crutches. I
will miss seeing him scoot around. It was quite funny
to see.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
But that's good news.
Speaker 7 (43:55):
I mean, that's where the recovery kind of should be
at this point, and on your feet and moving. It
was funny to hear him talk about how challenging the
most random tasks are at his house. But yeah, on
the men, that's good, even though he's not gonna play
this year obviously, any sort of recovery update from him
that's positive and moving in the right direction, that's goodness, Tony.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Anything you care about schedule release wise, we saw it
come out last Thursday. Anything stand out to you from
a Pacers standpoint, as we're still a little over a
month away from training camp.
Speaker 7 (44:25):
Yeah, this is this is a cool thing in the
schedule this year. They don't randomly go to Europe for
a week in the middle of it, so that's that's
a lot better than last year. But they all the
same Pacers the advantages they usually get, right, They traveled
the fewest miles of any team because they're so close
to their division opponents, and they have the fewest back
to backs, and I think they have tied for the
(44:46):
fewest rest disadvantage games this year, like their opponents in
them will be even in terms of how they're feeling
and traveling at worse for much of the season, which
is good, right if you're a team that is going
to be scraping by and trying to make you know,
the play in At least on paper it looks like.
Speaker 6 (45:02):
And that's good.
Speaker 7 (45:03):
You want all those vintages built in. But no, nothing
super standoutish. They play eighty games, and they play the
eighty teams that everybody thought they'd play. They're only weird
part of their schedules that like mid January through mid
February rush with the trade headline in the middle of it,
where it's like a baseball schedule five road games, four
home games, six road games consecutively. But outside of that,
it's it's nothing so shocking or different than any normal year.
Speaker 5 (45:27):
Tony, which Pacers player will be the best Colts quarterback?
Speaker 7 (45:32):
Oh Man.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Didn't see that one coming, did you No.
Speaker 7 (45:37):
I'm used to the opposite, like which Colts play would
be the best on the Pacers? Which is Moiley Cox
is still on the Colts, right, It's always him, it's
the answer. Yeah, yeah, he's always the answer for the inverse.
I can't believe I didn't know if he was still
on the team or not. The best football player.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
You said quarterback specifically.
Speaker 5 (45:52):
Yes, quarterback. There are the compeences are going on. I'm
just thinking if we got to go across the street
to game Bridge to pick up a quarterback to start
about week one, who are you picking?
Speaker 4 (46:02):
What's like?
Speaker 7 (46:03):
What's the typical Yeah, I was gonna say, Halburn's got
a lot of the trades, right, what's the typical quarterback hip?
Like six four? Right about?
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (46:10):
About six four? I would say, I think you can
meet a little bit more weight than Halibird.
Speaker 7 (46:14):
No, he might be too thin for I'll.
Speaker 5 (46:17):
Tell you who I think would actually turnovers, but but
you know what, he might make the tackle on all
ten turnovers. My pick personally might be mathering, but I'm
seeing where your mind's going.
Speaker 7 (46:30):
Cam Jones feels like he'd be really he's got the
five right, Yeah, he'd be really slithery. He's got the
lefty stuff. He'd be a kind of quarterback that I
like watching. You know, you can come along with it.
That's a fair Matherin was a good answer. So I
just zagged a little bit because you guys took the
best look, Tony.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
Have you ever stuck your hand in a porter body?
Speaker 5 (46:50):
It's like my.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
Hand in a No what you're you're not a father?
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (46:56):
You never dropped anything?
Speaker 7 (46:58):
I no, no, no, no, no, uh.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Any close calls they need to Yeah.
Speaker 5 (47:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (47:03):
I in my old life of working a job, like
a corporate job, I did a lot of like had
to go to construction sites kind of things, and so
I spent many minutes in one one company that I
was in the port, they had one of those grabber
things in there.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Really smarter.
Speaker 7 (47:20):
Wow, yes, I know.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Apparently that works out a problem. They finally had to
fix it.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Interesting.
Speaker 5 (47:26):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Okay, well maybe invest in that last year.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Driver there, honey, can you get the I dropped my
sunglasses in there on Saturday night.
Speaker 4 (47:36):
I instinctually, I just I just grabbed them out.
Speaker 7 (47:42):
I have no comment.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
Are they there?
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Are they gone?
Speaker 3 (47:44):
For you?
Speaker 4 (47:45):
Are you really going to judge me that hard. I
thought you and I were friends.
Speaker 7 (47:48):
Oh, I'm not judging you.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
I have no comment. Is it no comment? A comment?
Is that what they say in PR class?
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Is that what you say to all the coaches who
say no comment? There's nothing there also no comment? All right, Tony,
thanks for stopping by this morning. We appreciate you.
Speaker 6 (48:07):
Thanks having me
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