Best of Wednesday 11/4: Rick Carlisle joins and discusses Myles Turner's return + NFL Trade Deadline
November 4, 2025 • 51 mins
00:00 – 23:14 –Fallout from the Colts loss to the Steelers, NFL Trade Deadline today, should Chris Ballard make a move or two, is Brian Burns on the table?, Myles Turner returns to the Fieldhouse last night and the reaction he got from the fans, his pregame comments
23:15 – 39:10 – Pacers head coach Rick Carlisle joins us and discusses how he’s framing the effort of the team with the record and amount of injuries, his thoughts on how the team has played to this point despite the adversity, Jarace Walker’s performance, his thoughts on Myles Turner’s return and the fan reaction
39:11 – 51:20 - Colts Director of Football Operations Melainey Lowe joins us to discuss all the logistics it takes bringing an NFL team overseas, how much goes into the flight and planning, biggest concerns when traveling internationally, playing as the home team, domestic charters vs. international charters, Berlin and traveling, how she got in this line of work
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You were listening to the best of the Fan Morning
show on ninety three five and one oh seven five
The Fan Good Morning. In his trade deadline day for
the Indianapolis Colts, will address that coming up in a
few minutes where Carlisle stops by in thirty minutes to
talk about the return of Myles Turner and where the
Pacers are as they get ready to play one more
home game against Brooklyn this week and then head out
(00:21):
out of the road.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
But let's talk more about the.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Indianapolis Colts coming up their second loss of the season
on the road against the Pittsburgh Steelers, and what did
we learned yesterday with just listening to to Colts talk
about everything when it was all said and done. Where
do you think the coaching staff feels they are after
this loss and what they need to do to kind
of get back on track.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Kevin h Yeah. I think Shane's I can express a
little bit more of a you know, maybe could have
involved Jonathan Taylor, you know, earlier in the game. I'm
not maybe as critical of that. I think it's been
pretty typical MO for Shane Stike, and you know, Taylor
still leads the league in carries and I just think
the bigger issue was you weren't effective running it. You know,
(01:01):
I didn't think the quantity when the game was still
in doubt was that different. I mean, he had fourteen
carries through three quarters. If it's a close game, he's
going to have another, what six carries in the fourth quarter,
He's gonna have a twenty carry day. That's you know,
in today's NFL, that's a pretty normal or actually pretty
unique number for a starting running back. So but yeah,
(01:23):
Shane expressed a little bit of regret on that.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And now I mentioned that there is one chance to
improve this team outside of just getting players healthy again
this year. It is today, the trade deadline is coming up.
James are going to read you what they wrote on
ESPN dot com today Indianapolis Colts chance to make the
playoffs right now? Ninety seven point six percent, adding, subtracting
or sitting it out. Before I say what they said,
(01:48):
what would you believe adding, subtracting or sitting out for
Chris Ballard today?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
What they will do? What they should do?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
What do you want them? What do you think they
should do?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
What do I think they should do?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
You'll be Chris Ballard for a minute.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Let's go show the man shopping, you know, not like
you know what my boy fifty cents said. We're not
windows shopping. We want to go in there and actually
get something and put it in the cart, put it
in the buggy and walk out. Be like Miell Jackson
that twenty interview years be goes.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I want five of these. I want eight of those.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Yes, that's incredible. Recall there, Mark, I would say, let's
go out there and try to upgrade at defensive end.
Now I will say, I'm not so sure. Who else
is necessarily left of the bunch. Jelen Phillips got moved,
I believe to Philly. I know a couple other kind
of lower level edge Rusher's got moved. Trean Henderson obviously
(02:36):
so available. But I just think that I have a
little trepidation there because one, it's only the Bengals. Actually
asking price is pretty high for a first round pick.
I would not give up a first round pick for
Tree Henderson. But in addition to that, he's injured and
also older, So it feels like if you were going
to make a move for him, I would feel more
comfortable doing it if he was at least at least healthy.
(02:57):
That's my other thing. So yeah, I don't know. I
feel like this is why I don't want to be
a GM. I'm saying, make a move, but I don't
know what's move to make. Do something like I got
like a little stick. Just poke it like poke the
you know, the trade deadline button, and see what a
surprise you get.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I feel like you don't get to be in this
position very often in the NFL. You're you're seven and two.
Your offense has been a juggernaut, even even with the
sixth How about this, Kevin, even with six turnovers, they
scored twenty points. With six turnovers, they scored four times.
It's this offense.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Is really better, Kevin.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
No, because you still can't turn it all over. You
just you're never even in with it.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
It's never even a one score game usually if there's
six turnovers. I just think there's a chance to do
something special with this team. To me, if you're gonna
swing big, you want to talk about real big. And
there's no chance Chris Ball would ever do this. And
I don't even know exactly what the contract is left,
but we saw him pick up a nice young player
with a first round draft pick when he went and
got the forest bucking the right, why not at least
(04:01):
call and find out what Brian Burns' situation is with
the New York Giants, Because I'm telling you, I watched
that guy in Carolina.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Went before I, before he even became mature.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
That guy is a game wrecker with the right people
around him on a defensive line.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, certainly as a game wrecker, I would assume the
Giants are not in the mood to do that. But yeah,
I think that's a call you would certainly make and
just pray that they pick up on the other end,
or at least entertain you for a for a few
minutes there, so you know those of the moves. See
to me, cornerback has just lessened on the need scale.
(04:34):
I was really impressed by what Jalen Jones showed.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
How much more lesson was it after seeing him play?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, definitely, Yeah, I mean credit to Jalen Jones for
lessening that.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I I shocked that he looked that good and it
was first game. Mean, he wasn't playing notice for anybody else,
but he wasn't playing like a nobody.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
No.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I mean to get back half two catches in the game.
I mean, I think if you look at where I've
been at the last few weeks, it was always probably
a little bit more edge rusher than corner I could
definitely hear you out at cornerback. But you know, assuming
Javarious war can get back after the bye week, but
you might go to Kansas City here after the bye
week with a cornerback trio of Kenny Moore, Javarius Ward
(05:11):
and Jalen Jones. That would make me sleep a little
easier at night. Where's the pass rush? I don't sleep
much easier at all? And you know, okay, did as
j T twoem all allow really showed you anything to
maybe make you sleep better? No, not really. And we're
seeing pass rushers get moved Dray Moont Jones move, Jalen
Phillips move. So you know we had a text earlier
(05:31):
about the whole two to tango. Well, some teams are
finding that they're finding a dance partner here, so I'll
be very interested to see how the next eight hours
play out.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Wow, this swim swim that.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Should be Chris Ballard Windows shopping for free for trade deadline.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Do that at least give me ride Jackson at the
antique store.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Michael Jackson's voice always gets me.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
At least give me riding the danger field at the
pro shop. I take one of those and two.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Have you ever had that experience in your life? Anybody
on this show? I can't think of a dollar tree? Yeah,
good point. But even then, all the dollar tree days,
I have my grandmother.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
She's just twelve dollars to the dollar tree.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I remember you just to go to thrift toward her
and I swear everything in there was like ten cents,
and she will allow me to touch nothing. Still, Grandma
was not give it up an extra dollar because I
wanted something. But yeah, I again, I feel like if
a move is not made, the reaction from the fan
base is gonna be, oh, like, you guys were cowards,
(06:34):
you didn't go for it. But what's a reasonable request?
What's what's a reasonable line to say no, I'm not
gonna do this. Well That's where I'm at.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, and I think I think you've seen a couple
moves again, the Draymond Jones saying last night, for what
it was a conditional fifth or fourth I forget exactly
what it was, you know, the Jalen Phillips. You know
those are if you want to use a baseball analogy,
those are nice double swings. Are they going to mortgage
your draft capital moving forward? No? But are the third?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
You think the third was okay for John Phillips. Well, personally,
I'm like a third it's kind of hogh.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
But if you're playing the common pit game and he
goes and signs a deal next year and to get
a fifth back or something, then you know you you
lessen some of the sting there and send it a
third rounder. I just think it's a unique time for
the franchise. Your offense is at a historic level.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
You just want me to work later today. I see
how it is.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Oh, don't you have to write one or the other?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah, this is actually very true.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
They didn't make a deal.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I'm just joking, honestly. If you're asking me myself, give
me the action every time, like, give me the something
to write about or react to it. And really, again, to
your point, it's it's a different season, isn't what teams
haven't seen in the past.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I don't want to act like the Colts are the
I don't want to act like they're aging or this
is a one year opportunity, but the NFL window is
usually much smaller than other leagues windows. And also it's
a little bit of a We've talked about it with
Daniel Jones, Alec Pierce, maybe Braden Smith, maybe Nick Cross.
(08:05):
Things are going to get complicated financially for you moving forward.
So you know how you fit all of that in there.
I think it's going to be a little bit more challenging.
And you know, Zia Franklin and to Forrest Buckner and
go over Stewart and Quentin Nelson and brain to it.
You know, these guys are all, you know, getting up
there a little bit more in age.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, and by the way, Brian Burns has a contract
through twenty twenty eight, so.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
That would take a lot of restructure. And I just
it would take a.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Lot of restructure. But I'm just telling you, that's a dude.
He can help.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Yeah, he got that's a dude.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
That's a dude.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
And I don't know if it again, there's a lot
of that would have to happen. I'm just throwing it
out there because it's trade day and if you're gonna
if you're gonna at least dream, at least dream big,
because I think that's a guy. Now, look, the Giants
aren't going anywhere. They're going to try to rebuild that
franchise around Jackson Dartin. To your point, Kevin, maybe he's
a part of their rebuilding plan.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Maybe that's and I feel like we've had a report
with the Giants of like, no, we're not going to
do that. Now say yeah, yeah, I am all for
calling Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
So here's what ESPN dot com has to say, adding, subtracting,
or sitting it out.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Quote. Let's say, ad with.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Caution, there's a move for general manager Chris Ballad to
make if the Colts feel so inclined. They are depleted
at cornerback, and the Colts are on the radar with
Trey Hendrickson. Although Ballard typically stands Patty has a lot,
he has a hot team. That might be the proverbial
one player away, that's the whole thing. Are you truly
one player away on defense?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Does it feel that way to you? One player away?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I don't know, but I'd feel much more comfortable if
the past rush got an injection of life. That's how
I would summarize it. And I'd rather try than keep
the bat on the shoulders.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, well that's what we'll be keeping an eye on
a little bit later on today.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
And our time is gonna be like Mickey Rojas. Yeah
seriously is it like four pm? Our time four pm?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah, So we'll keep an eye on that and listen
to Jake all day from New three, and of course
jamvuh the trade deadline will come and go during his
show later on today. If you're just joining us, Yes,
Miles Turner returns to the field House last night. You
heard about it live at ninety three five and one
on seven to five of the Fan and James, You
and I were both there.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
He heard about it right before the game too, didn't he.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah, And I saw his reaction on the bench and
shout out to Whichs TV for capturing this moment because
I saw a little bit of it from my angle.
But where we sit, Jeff, obviously you can't like you're
behind the visiting bench, so you can't necessarily see the
front side of the player. Lets say, show it on
the jumbo tron.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
We're kind of up in the corner.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Yeah, So which TV caught the angle of him sitting
right in front of them, and when they were booing
him during the player intros. After the tribut video was over,
Miles sitting there with like his poems open and both
hands kind of out and he flipped them closed like
he was closing a chapter of a book, so to speak.
And then he kind of egged on the crowd a
little bit, waved with hands to kind of antagonize them.
And I think my biggest takeaway is that Miles is
(10:59):
not necessarily a villain. And I don't say that with
regard to the fan base saying, oh, this is how
we feel about him. He turned on us, he's a
turncoat whatever. I just mean that I don't think he,
in his heart can be the villain. So to me,
it all kind of feels like it's it's more of
a character type of thing he's trying to put on
(11:21):
or a cloak or something, because it doesn't feel real.
I mean, if you're true villain's probably I mean Draymond
Green to me is like a true villain. He doesn't
carry anybody thinks. Dennis Rodman didn't carr anybody thinks. I
think Miles to a degree still cares. And he talked
about it after the game to his credit, where he
felt disappointed and a bit disrespected with how things kind
(11:42):
of played out, But ultimately, man, I don't think that
Miles necessarily the villain. And I will say, though, if
you are going to be the villain and lean into
that role a little bit more than you had before,
it helps to have a bigger villain on your side,
because I'm sure Pacers fans don't like Giannis either.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, would you guys say the percentage of booze were.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
It's funny you were just saying that that was what
I was going to bring up. I would say, seventy
five twenty five. Does that sound about right? Because there
were some people, there were people up there, There were
people up there applauding for him. Maybe because we could
hear it up on the second dec D.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Yeah, there were seventy thirty seventy.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Thirty, seventy five twenty five in that area.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Yeah, boy, I didn't. I didn't know how they would
react to the video necessary because I figured they would boom,
They blew that man through the entire video. I was like,
they gave you gosh THEO you know, I figured it
would be you know kind of I don't know the
first time you hear his name in the video, and
but no, as soon as they got to the park
where he was saying, uh was it the Indiana Like,
(12:39):
they were thinking, uh, how dare you play this this again?
Speaker 5 (12:43):
So I was.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Surprised he played well early. I thought it'd be deer
in headlights for him early on in that game. Yeah,
and I thought he played pretty well now, like kind
of a disappearing actly. Those middle quarters did have a
huge block there late in the fourth quarter, and boy,
for a brief second there, I don't think he would
have gotten the shot off in time. But when Siakam
came to double or I think it was Jackson. Jackson
(13:05):
came to double back Jani and Turner was open again.
I don't think Gianni's could have got it to Turner
and Turner could have flipped it up there in time.
But I thought to myself, is he about ready to
have a game winning shot opportunity here? That'd have been
quite the scene.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
I know Rianna's ruined a Disney moment, man, because if
he makes the shot, you're the villain. You missed a shot.
Oh you're getting booed out of there. So again, I
respect Miles, and I think that's just from a media standpoint,
but I do respect the fan base from the standpoint
of we're allowed to boo. I know, Gianni's one of
the whole soliloqui after the game about you know, giving
(13:41):
ten years to a team, all time leading blocks and
all these things about how the Pacers should have respected
Miles more. But I mean, look, I paid my money.
I'm not cursing the man out. I'm just booing, So
I feel that's fair.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I did think, yeah, and I was, you know, I
think I've been. I mean, for the most part, I'm
you know, always team fandom and team bou if it
if you'd like, you're you're paying money, you can do
as you please. I did think Miles pregame and Mark,
if we have that audio, go ahead and queue that up.
This is with Tony Eastenson reporters pregame at the shoot around.
(14:14):
I guess yesterday morning probably would be the best way
to put it. I did think, for the most part,
he clarified his comments. I thought fairly well. Basically, to
summarize it, he feels like and he made it clear
front office and ownership, Front office and ownership. He feels
like the rug was kind of pulled out from under him,
and I would insert here, well that's what happens in
(14:35):
Tyrese Haliburton tears his achilles. But nonetheless, this was Turner
at shoot around yesterday with a lot of the indie media.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
It said all the time that this league is a business,
and I got my first real you know, takes what
that business since meant you know, obviously you got to
take some of the emotions out of this. So no,
it didn't changed out thought here. Now ownership in front
office's a different story. That's everything to do between me
and them, not to do with the fans.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
It's a sick that was when you said, like, go
where your celebrated, and I think you know you tweeted
about that after that. That wasn't about the fans. I mean,
I guess do you feel like you were celebrated here?
I feel like.
Speaker 7 (15:08):
We'll talk about value if you go with your values
in the sense and I feel like the front office
and you know, the ownership value met Milwaukee more than
the front office and ownership may value me here in Indiana.
So again, I wasn't a shot the fans. I see
how fans would have took that personally, you know, just
just how fresh you were off of, you know, such
a great run and whatnot. But again, I'm gonna see
the running the camera by no means anything I said
I ain't doing with the fans or the city man.
(15:30):
You know, I said, there's strictly a business uh uh,
just you know, a business decision for me personally.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I get it. Four years one hundred and eight millions
different than three years sixty six million.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Math and money. And as I always tell you all,
you can't put loyalty in the bank, but you can't
put cash in there.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
You can move me all you want for next to
forty million dollars.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Yeah, But at the same time, I still think that
there's a certain level of like what's the right word,
like gas lighting to a degree that Miles is doing
because some of the stuff that he said you didn't
have to say, like the last shot, I guess if
you want to interpret it that way towards Tyresea. Oh,
he could talk his stuff and people know we won't
(16:12):
do anything if we're in the actual real street. And
it's like, Okay, why was that comment needed if your
aim is to describe how the front office made you feel?
So I think that shot, you know, the I wanted
to go somewhere where I will celebrate. But also I think.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I probably shouldn't have said something.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
But I think was something about, like you know, and
he clarified that too, but it was something along the
lines that I wanted to go somewhere where we could
like contend or compete. I think compete was the word,
and that sounds like, oh man, like Tyree's gets hurt,
screw it, where it's over, it's done. I don't have
a chance to win a ring here, so uh, some
of that. I just think that could have been avoided
if he just really didn't talk about it. But at
(16:57):
the same time, as we always say, Kevin look for
better or worse, I like when athletes saw us that
they really feel we want and yeah, and you can
boo the honesty, you can be mad at it, but
at least you know how he feels. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I think there's probably a few times where he's opened
his mouth try to act like a little bit more
of a bad boy than he really is.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
That's what I'm saying. It's not him. I don't think
that's really him.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
He's not the villain. He's the kid that shows up
with the high school party, and it's like, wait a minute,
you know, can you stay outside? Like you know, this
is a little bit different in the you know, in
this atmosphere here. And I think yesterday again he did
try to clarify a lot of those comments, and I
thought he really did. But he's just not built to
be you know, I've said this about Jonathan Taylor for
(17:36):
years ago. Jonathan Taylor's not built to be a holdout guy.
Some guys are built to be the holdout guys.
Speaker 8 (17:40):
Oh no, Jay's he looked mighty built to be a holdout.
Council was more built to be the the holdout guy.
And how he was how I should be a wrestler.
And that's the agent for Jonathan Taylor for those unfamiliar
with that.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
But you know, it won't make a light today. We
won't play the audio. But Miles was uber complim memory
of Indiana's sports environment yesterday. Oh yes, pre game, I
mean he was, you know, singing the praises of what
that building has meant to him, and you know how
much he loves the crowd, et cetera, et cetera. And
then once you get in the game setting, you're gonna
have some reactions like he did there. So again, I'm
(18:17):
looking forward to ten am when we don't have to
talk about it.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Jonathan, I thought you're gonna say something else. Jonathan fan
Anderson says Turner was booed for the comments he made
on that podcast, mainly his comments on Halliburton.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
In his opinion, Yeah, and again to one of the
comments in the YouTube chat, did you just mention in
my opinion, I feel like yes, it's only viewed as
a shot if you view that one clip. But that's
the thing. That's the world we live in. Like Miles
is not new to this. He knows whatever you say,
especially when you bring up Tyreez, who is the most
beloved player within the franchise, if it can be interpreted
(18:52):
in any derogatory way, that is what's going to happen.
So I think you can avoid some of that if
you just give the man his flowers and stay away
from the whole. Well, he acts tough, he does this,
He does that like okay, and he also give up
his achilles, which is pretty tough to do, you know
for a guy trying to compete for a championship.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Are the booze as loud as they were last night?
If Miles Turners in a Sun's uniform.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Probably not.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I think it makes a difference that it is Milwaukee
and so much as transpired in the last three years especially.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yeah, I saw somebody say like it was the light
version of Kevin Urant going to the Warriors, and I
was like.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Relax, like light light light light light light j V light.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
YEA, let's puff the brakes here. But yeah, I do
think the rivalry, how much these groups seem to competitively
hate each other. I mean, you saw the frankin fraul
last night from Aaronice with Oniani, which I don't think
it was dirty play, but just those types of moments
in the game. Yeah, I think that that adds to
certainly some of the fuel. But for me, it's a
great theater.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Can I say one of my favorite trolls at the
Fieldhouse though, is whenever Giannis shoots the free throws and
he bounces the ball repeatedly forever and the crowd just
counts three pounced.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Him and him and Siakam are similar with the free throws,
where they're both great players. I want them to have
the ball in their hands at the end of the game,
make the play whatever. But I don't trust either if
I need to free throws at the end of the game.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
By the way, great knight for Isaiah Jackson. He needed
it twenty one to ten in that matchup. I would
assume this is one he probably circled a little bit.
Oh yeah, you to the best right now. Hell, look
fake for a huge bucket there in the fourth quarter.
And you know, I probably need to do this at
times with Isaiah Jackson as well. One year removed from
(20:35):
the Achilles, Yeah, one year moved from the as just
gonna get better and better to wait, what is he
twenty three, twenty four years old? So again, is there
a little bit more there? Because boy, the Pacers desperately
desperately need him. For those that were not watching last night,
Quintin Jackson left of the hamstring injury, James, you mentioned
Johnny Furfey on crutches after the game. On the injuries
(20:56):
just keep on coming, and I don't you know, usually
there's a progression of these guys get back. We'll see
what Rick Carlisle shares here in a few minutes. But
you know, Andrew Nemhart and Benedict Matheren are still listed
as out. You know, usually there's like, hey, you're questionable
for a game, and then you maybe you know, get
to that, Hey you're gonna play two games from now. So,
assuming Quentin Jackson's going to miss time, I would guess
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they could either go back to Ben Shephard as their
starting point guard, which I don't think I would do.
I'd probably vote for either Ray J. Dennis or Mac McClung.
As they get the winless Brooklyn Nets, I believe, Are
they the only one this team left?
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:28):
I believe so, uh win seven Brooklyn Nets? Wait, it
might be the Pelicans.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Do the Pelicans win yet?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
No? I don't think so. It's the disastrous down there
in No Len's Now.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
The Nets have been a public about it. The Nets
are trying to lose, and they've lost very successfully so far.
So the Pacers desperately need to get that one tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Well again, you talked about culture for the Pacers a
little while ago at the beginning of the show, James,
I know, it doesn't buy you victories, and they're probably
gonna end up in the lottery before the thing is
all said and done this year. Maybe that's in the
long run the better thing. That's a different discussion for
a different day. But they keep coming at you. Man,
it doesn't matter who you are, they keep coming at you.
Have the Golden State Warriors the other night they kept
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coming after him.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Gotta win.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
And last night the Milwaukee Bucks, one of the favorites
in the Eastern Conference, they kept coming at him. Just
keep coming at him at least with your team.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
You like that, Yeah, absolutely, And that's their DNA, That's
who they've become under Rick Carlisle. So I can definitely
respect that. But boy, talking to Siakham after the game,
that man is like he wants to waits nothing. I
want to win. I need a victory.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
So that's why we love him.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Yeah, one thing to keep in mind real quick. Pivoting
back to the Colts reporting here from Ian Rappaport, he said,
up the seventh round pick for Logan Wilson. So looking
at that price, maybe the Colts should have been out
on him. If the seventh round pick is all you
need to go get perhaps a better linebacker, who knows.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I think there is a contract element there too that
Dallas is having to absorb, so again in the Colts restructure.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
At the same time, I believe he's on one year deal.
He's an expiring cons right, so it can't be a
whole lot of money they're selling out to go get
Logan Wilson. So something to keep in mind, all.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Right, Coming up in a minute, Rick Carlisle, the head
basketball coach for the Indiana Pacers, joins us on the
fan morning show.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
It's ninety three five and what seven five the fans?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Alright, eight o'clock on a Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
You know what that means.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Rick Carlisle, head coach of the Indiana Pacers, joins us. Now,
PACER's got one more home game coming up here tomorrow night,
that is with Brooklyn before they go back on the road.
And what has been a very challenging start to the season,
not only opponent wise, but certainly from a health standpoint.
And Rick is on the Payloss Lickers Hotline coach, Good
morning to you.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
How are you okay?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
How have you framed? I guess these early losses with
your team? You know, you just watch every night and
you've got you know, half your frontline guys, if not more,
in street clothes. Have you found it challenging at all
when you get into those postgame locker rooms in kind
of framing the effort that you're seeing and obviously comparing
that to your record.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
No, it's not difficult really, with the exception of two games.
The game at Memphis we we did not play well,
did not compete at the level that we needed to.
And then the home game against Atlanta. Those were those
were the two that were not good. And you know, really,
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you've got to be realistic about things, and from a
process standpoint, we have to be at a very high
compete level, a very high unselfish level, and all those things.
And uh, you know, the the other games that we've
played so far, you know we've met those standards, and
so we've just got to be you know, we we
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we've got to have a great level of objectivity here
on the one Here on the other hand, we've got
to we've got to work to get through a challenge
of time.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Rick, when you look at that fourth quarter, you all
were down double digits come back to tie the game.
And I talked to Jars and Pascal after the game.
They were saying that this is sort of their DNA
at this point, and why do you think no matter
who is out there for you guys, you all are
able to rally and have that next play mentality despite
you know, losing two guys throughout the game.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Well, this is what we've built, you know, this is
this is what we've done here. And I say we
it's been everybody, you know, It's been management, It's been
the players, the coaching staff. We we've really have have
strove to, uh to build a culture of compete no
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matter what, you know, get down in dirty as much
as you have to do, as far as you know,
getting on the floor, playing with grit, playing with guts,
all that kind of stuff, and and find a way,
you know, find a way to to to win games,
find a way to stay in games. You know the situation.
So you know, I've been very pleased for the most
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part with with the efforts that we've had, really with
the exception of those two those two games, and you know,
tomorrow's another tough one, and you know, we've lost a
couple more guys here.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Again as Brooklyn tomorrow night for Rick Carlisle and the
Pacers before they head out west. Here. Coach, last night,
I thought Isaiah Jackson gave you arguably probably one of
his better games of his young career. I've found myself
needing to remind myself he's only a year removed from
the torn Achilles. What specifically did you like from Isaiah
last night?
Speaker 5 (26:39):
High level of aggression energy. You know, he's he's one
of our fighters too, you know, he's you know, he's
I know where he's from. You know, I was, I
was in Detroit for a couple of years. You know,
he's from Pontiac, Michigan. I mean, those are those are
tough dudes come out of there, you know, And so
he's a he's a warrior type guy, and very heartening
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to see progress that he's made throughout the process of
return to play. You know, at the beginning, it was
it was difficult.
Speaker 8 (27:11):
You know.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
A lot of ups and downs, and you know, very
clearly did not have great rhythm and trying to get
his legs under him and those kinds of things. Last night,
you know, he just he just was able to bear
down and take things to another level. And so, you know,
this is what we need from him on as many
nights as he can do it. And really, this is
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this is what we ask of everyone, and that is
just to give an unconditionally unselfish and gutty effort, you know,
out there to to compete to win games.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
You mentioned another night of injuries in Quentin Jackson leaving
the game early, so you'll have to change up the
starting line up once again coming up tomorrow night. And
I was curious with all of your injuries, particularly at
point guard. You know, we've talked over the past couple
of years. You know, you've you've really handed the ball
to Tyrese and allowed so much freedom for him to
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run the show. And even I assume some of that
has gone to TJ McConnell or or Andrew Nemhart. Have
you had to, I guess, call more plays from the
sidelines this year of you try Have you had to
create more like structure within the game offensively because of
all the point guard in and outs that you've had
through the first handful of games.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
Well, things are different, for sure. I wasn't sure if
we were going to need to do that at an
extreme level. We have the capability to do it if needed,
you know, on the one hand, we don't have the playmakers,
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the regular guys, you know, you know, tyree'se, TJ and
and Nemahart. On the other hand, the other guys have
have played in this style and have played a you know,
a past move, past move, create a problem type style.
And you know, when when you get in this situation,
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slowing the game down can seem like a good idea,
but uh it can be a curse too, because it's
a lot harder to get shots, uh, let alone score.
So we've tried to keep the tempo up. We need
to keep an element of ball security in uh, you
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know a love ball. Turnovers in this kind of situation
are very difficult to overcome, and the idea is to
play as much through our best players as we can.
And right now, the two guys that are the the
main guys obviously are Passcal Siakam and Aaron Nesmith, and
so a lot of action is going through them, and
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we got to continue to try to find the best
opportunities we can.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Rick.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
When you look at that fourth quarter, Jarris Walker ten
points four for shooting three assists, what did you like
from him down the stretch as far as just making
himself available to knock down some shots, but also play
making a bit to keep you on in that game.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Force, you know, a level of force that is needed,
A level of force that I believe he can go
to on a consistent basis, and so we need more
of that. He's made progress, for sure, people watching our
games can see that. That's an obvious fact. And this
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is a this is an amazing opportunity for him right now.
And so so we need him and he's got to
be a guy that can do a little bit of
everything for us. You know, he's got the ability to guard,
he's got the ability to rebound, really to make open shots.
He drove the ball well last night. His passing is
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is something that is is unique, you know, to to
his sort of body type and skill set, and it's
like an all of the above thing, and uh, you know,
I like, I like, I like the progress that he's made,
and uh, we're gonna keep pushing him forward.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Rick, You've mentioned Forrest a few times throughout Jarius and
his development over the years. How do you teach Forest?
I know he's already a tough guy, but what does
that look like in practice?
Speaker 5 (31:36):
Just a mindset, you know, you simulate situations, you get
out pads, beat beat guys up as they're driving the ball.
Just you know, it's it's a lot of it, a
lot of it as an attitude, you know. And so
look he's he's playing a different style and he played
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at Houston. I'm not really familiar with with what he's
high school and time at IMG looked like from a
style standpoint. I do know that he played point guard
one year at IMG, you know, when they had injuries
and so well, listen, this is this is a golden opportunity,
you know, for for him and in the organization right
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now for him to get you know, some really high level,
meaningful minutes during a period where you know, we're we're
have some we have some real challenges and so we
need him.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Tuesdays, Tuesday's at eight, Rick Carlisle with us here on
the Payloft Sickers hotline again. The PACER's got one more
here at home before they head out west. Obviously some
extra juice in the building last night, Coach, any interactions
with Miles pregame or post game for you, He.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Came over to the bench, you know, to uh shake
hands with people right before the tip that that was it.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yeah, were you surprised at all by the fan rey
action pregame or within the game when Miles touched the ball?
Speaker 5 (33:05):
I don't know. I I guess not. And you know,
if you look at everything that has transpired over whatever
the period of time is. You know a lot of
things I guess have been have been said. I I'm
not I'm not on those social media channels in large
in large part, but you know, you hear things, and
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so you know, divorce is difficult, you know, it's just, uh,
it just is. I will say that that I always
supported Myles, you know, completely, and I always admired the
man that he was when he was a member of
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the Indiana Pacers. Know, he's from a great family and
all that, and uh, you know, sometimes sometimes these things
are difficult, but I harbor no ill feelings toward Miles
as a as a person. It would have been good
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if some of the things said were not said. And
I don't want to get into all that, but you know,
some of the stuff going after teammates unnecessarily didn't didn't
didn't make any sense, you know, with the kind of
character that he's demonstrated here. So it's, uh, it was.
It was tough, you know, it was. It was tough.
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You know, I was I was not expecting that extremer reaction.
But on the one hand, on the other hand, things happen.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Rick last one for me, we talk about franchise pillars
and Miles was one of those guys and now you're
new one over the last couple of years has been
Pascal Siakaman. After the game, he was talking about the
balance of not going crazy because the outcomes of these games,
but also holding himself and it seem accountable for trying
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to close these games out. So I've actually just a
few times, but with Pascal when he talks about growth
in his leadership, how have you seen him push himself
even more at this edge of his career. For a
guy who probably has a Hall of Fame resume already.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
He's just he's an amazing player. I mean, just flat
out and you know, obviously you see the skill set
on the floor. You know, you see the uh, the
integrity with which you know he competes, he's unselfish, all
that kind of stuff. And then and then there's a
leadership element to it. You know that is uh an
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everyday thing that hasn't waivered, you know. So he's just
he's extremely special. And this is really you go back
in the history of the pacers in the NBA. Yeah,
I don't know that you're going to find a more
significant acquisition, player acquisition transaction, whatever you want to call it.
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You know, in the history of the of the of
the Pacers, you know, during their NBA time. I'm not
as I'm not as versed on the ABA transactions that
that happened, but as far as the NBA, I mean
being able to trade for a guy like this and
and he he came to Indiana because he wanted to
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play with Tyrese Haliburton, and he wanted to play with
the style that we were developing in a culture that
we were building, and that those things, those things are
very gratifying. Our fans should be very proud of that,
our organization should be very proud of that too. And
we need him now more than ever. I don't you know,
I don't. I don't think that comes as any surprise
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to anybody.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Coach kind of going off that and last one, and
as always, we appreciate the time you mentioned AARONI. Smith
alongside Pascal earlier. I thought it was a huge left
handed drive late in the game from Aaron E. Smith.
As you're having to turn to other guys late in
games right now, where is there bal in hell? Maybe
there's no balance at this point. It's just the state
of your your playing time. Is there any balance of
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putting too much on the plate of Aaron and Pascal
and realizing that you know, oh boy, they have so
much to handle right now for your for your franchise.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Yeah, it's just, you know, it comes down to it
was down the minutes, and it was down to the
load that you're talking about and trying to navigate it
is best is can can be done. You know, it's yeah,
I think you look at the stat sheet after the
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game last night, and you know, to me, the two
stats that are the most telling is that Giannis plays
thirty one minutes and Pascal plays thirty eight. And you know,
that's that's something that is hard to overcome right now.
You know, you just you need your your best players
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on the floor as much as possible. So I got
to keep looking at it, got to keep being i think,
very vigilant about getting him and Aaron their rest. You know,
Ernly played playing a little under thirty four minutes last night.
You know that's at the manageable number, you know, but
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we just you know, I just got to try to
keep these guys as fresh as possible. I think at
this point that's a pretty obvious statement.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Any chance Andrew or Ben played for you as you
guys head out west, I mean.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
You're talking about that's a that's a week, ten days out.
So is there a chance we'll get some guys back?
Speaker 3 (38:58):
There's a chance, Rick Carlisle on the Payless Liquers Hotline again,
Pacers and nets coming up tomorrow night inside of Gambridge
Field House before they indeed head out west. Coach as always,
thank you, oh.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
Great figure up.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Tuesday is going well as we continue here on the
Fan Morning Show ninety through five, one oh seven five
the Fan, Big week for the Indianapolis Colts. You got
the trade deadline coming your way at four pm Eastern
later on today. The Colts trying to bounce back from
that loss to Pittsburgh. They're still seven to two and
still the number one team in the AFC, and now
they pack up and head to Berlin for a game
on Sunday morning against the Atlanta Falcons. And here to
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tell us a little bit more about what it's like
to move an entire franchise for a week to a
completely different country on a different continent, is Melanie Lowe.
She is the director of Football operations for your Indianapolis colts,
and she joins us now in the Payless Lookers hotline.
Good morning, Melanie, there's nothing on your to do list.
I'm sorry, m'laney. I'm sorry, Millenia.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
My bad.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
I can't even good morning.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
How are you guys?
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Well, I've been.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Schooled and appropriately so, but welcome to the We appreciate
you being here in the morning on a Tuesday, but
I was going to say, you have nothing on your
to do list today?
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Do you well?
Speaker 6 (40:07):
I have four hours to go and we're boarding planes
on our way to Berlin, US a dance group. We've
got ten of us going there ahead of the team today.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Melani, thank you for the time. I know this has
been probably quite the undertaking, although I don't know, maybe
Frankfurt braced you a little bit for it, although a
different part of Germany walk us through twenty twenty five
from I think you guys had an advance in the
spring as well, as much as you find it interesting
to you or our audience, What has this process been
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like as early as going out there back in the spring.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
Absolutely well, first and foremost, thanks for having me. I
really appreciate it. Yeah, so we went over in April,
and we've been working on this trip ever since. We
got notified right around in February that we were going
over to Berlin, and just it hasn't stopped. We went
over in April and saw the stadium, the hotel, the
practice site, and got to choose given that we're the
home team, we got to choose the different sites that
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we prefer what was best for the team. Came back
to our colleagues, shared the information, and hit the ground
running on planning. It's been interesting too because you realize,
you know, you're planning two trips every week up until
this game, like you're planning for Pittsburgh last week and Berlin,
or you know, preseason training camp and Berlin. So it's
really exciting to get this thing rolling and we're excited
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to go.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
You were most nervous about what, or maybe the hardest
thing to plan was what I think.
Speaker 6 (41:29):
The hardest thing is always the aircraft, just because there's
so many things that can go wrong, and that's the
most important thing. You got to get them there right.
And then once they're there, a lot of things you
can adjust and kind of figure out on the fly,
but they've got to have a plane to get there,
so we had to contract and reach out to several
different airlines. Hey can you take us? What does it cost?
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You know, negotiating pricing and just do you have availability,
Like what's the biggest aircraft, what's most comfortable for our team?
And from there we get to customize our entire plane.
So where the players sit, the manifest, when do the
lakes turn off? What kind of food do we serve?
All of that is really customizable. So I think that's
really the biggest chunk that we've had to figure out
this year.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
Milani Low joining us here on a payoff Slickers hot line,
the director of football operations for the Colts and Milani.
I have to ask this because I feel like my
passport is staring at me every time I leave my
apartment because I'm going heading over to Germany as well
later this week. How high up on the list is
that for reminding players to actually bring that?
Speaker 6 (42:30):
Oh gosh, you have no idea.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
I think that's what keeps me up at night.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
So we we don't.
Speaker 6 (42:34):
I mean, we trust them, but we do, right, So
we collect all of those back in training camp, We're like, okay,
you're back here. You're ready, you're lucked in for a season.
We're taking your passport for you. So and you have
to you know, realize too when we're doing all the
transactions and different you know, the roster is fluctuating. We're
making sure that these guys have passports, visas, all.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
Of the things.
Speaker 6 (42:53):
But that's high on the priority. We start that in April. Okay,
who needs passports. Let's get you going, Let's get the
process rolling.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
That's crazy to think about all the things that you
have to be responsible for to make sure that they
only have to show up and play. What's the one
thing you've learned through this process that you just didn't
know going in.
Speaker 6 (43:14):
That's a great question. I think that, like, relying on
the people around you is really important. So whether it's
the league or the people in Germany, they're experts at
what they do, so making sure that you make really
great connections when you're over there, and like the soccer team,
for example, we're playing at a professional soccer teams practice
site and using them as resources. Hey, what type of
protein powder do you use? Or you know, what does
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your training equipment your weight room look like? Can we
use some of the things that you guys have while
we're over there, since not everything's accepted or we can't
ship over everything that we normally would use, just with customs,
So it's a lot of learning, like, hey, what's allowed
into the country, what does customs look like, and what's
necessary to bring over. Like you said, I mean, at
the end of the day, we want to make sure
this is as seamless as possible, making sure the guys
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have everything that they need and it replicates a home
game and still allow them and experience in Germany.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
So the voice of Mulani Low, she certainly will deserve
a cold beverage coming up late Sunday whenever the Colts
do depart from Germany and everything is back to normal.
I say that in quotes. She's the director of football
ops for the Colts. Mullany, you mentioned the home aspect
to it, if I'm not mistaken, I want to say
the Colts were the road team back in twenty sixteen
as well when they went to London, and then you
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guys were the road team with New England a couple
of years ago. So the home element for our audience
that might not be super familiar with that with the
international games. That provides what for you.
Speaker 6 (44:38):
When we were in Berlin in April, we got to
have first choice on all of the hotels the practice sites,
so we get first DIBs. Whatever works best for our team,
we decide, and then the Atlanta Falcons came in second.
It also, weirdly enough, it allows us to leave the
country first, so if not Germany does have a curse
you so you can fly past eleven pm, which we
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ran into that in twenty three, getting close to that
eleven o'clock deadline, then you would have to stay in
the country. So it gives us priority out of the
country to make sure our team can get back to
the US and have a normal by week that following week.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
Well, and nothing's gonna make those boys jog a little
bit more to the bus than that potential of staying
another night there. Do you guys have home presentation within
the game? I don't know, maybe that doesn't fall on
your plate, but like, well the game aspect, you know,
I don't know, commercial breaks, those sorts of things. Jumbo
Tron music. Is that all cults correct?
Speaker 6 (45:33):
Yes? Absolutely. We have fan activation throughout the city leading
up too. We have a big activation outside of the stadium.
The pain itself on the field will represent both teams,
but in game experience will all be the Colts.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
Well, Annie, now I know you discussed getting the players
over there, but as far as equipment goes, do that
travels separately? How do you all make sure that helmets,
shoulder pads and I don't know, band aids are all
making the flip trip and flat over as well.
Speaker 6 (46:00):
Absolutely, I think that's one of the biggest other than
the aircraft. Sending stuff over is one of the biggest
lifts for us. So we send we actually send everything
on a boat back in August, so while we're prepping
for a training camp and going on the road for
away joint practices, we're also shipping stuff for Germany, so
there's a lot of moving pieces in August just to
get preps. So you're trying to think ahead, like, hey,
what will I need in three months and wrap your
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head around that. So we send everything on a boat
that has to be put on what's called the karnae,
and it's broken out like how much does it weigh,
the country of origin, all the serial numbers, so it's
a pretty tedious process, and then we fly some of
our equipment also on the plane things that we can't
necessarily ship in August, such as your shoulder pads and
your helmets.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
So can you explain what karnae is? Because we were
talking about this earlier. Kevin brought it up and I
told him, well, the only carne I know is Carne
is Sada. Yeah, so something in Baker's field correct exactly.
So yeah, I'm with you, but you kind of lost
me there.
Speaker 6 (46:56):
I wish it was that. No, So it's actually all
the paperwork, the documentation for customs. So it's this long,
fifty page document and it lists every single item, every
single band aid, every single piece of equipment that you
can name in all of our trunks that we bring over.
We have to put the serial numbers, the country of origin,
the weights, all of that on documentation, send it over
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to German Customs to get approved. I wish it was food,
Unfortunately it's not.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
How would you compare Millennia Lo Cold director football ops
with us yere on the paylistickers hotline? How would you
compare the international charter to your weekly domestic charters.
Speaker 6 (47:33):
We try to keep it as consistent as possible, just
so the guys have familiarity. So tons of snacks, more
than you could ever eat in your life, tons of drinks,
nigration items, supplement. So I would say it's very similar.
It's a bigger aircraft. We try to make sure these
guys are taken care of. We have sixty lay down
flat seats pods, so they're going to be comfortable with
fifty three man rosters set, you know. So I think
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that it's a little bit more spacious, get the guys
to stretch out a little bit more, but operation a
couple more meals on the flight, and like I said,
we customarized all of that from start to finish. When
do we dim the lights? When do we want to
wake them up and turn the lights on? You know
how many pillows and blankets do we order? All of
that stuff run through us and our departments and all
the people around us too. It's the huge support staff
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at cold Set kind of get this thing moving and grooving.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Mulaney Low.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
She is the director of football Operations for the.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
Indianapolis Colts, in charge of helping them get from here
to there. There being Berlin on Sunday, it's really more
of a West Coast team questionings. I've seen it before,
but was there ever any discussion or thought about, hey,
you're already way on the East Coast playing in Pittsburgh,
any chance of just flying straight to Berlin from there?
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Was it always coming back to Indy?
Speaker 3 (48:42):
Great question.
Speaker 6 (48:43):
I think that's one of the huge benefits of being
in Indianapolis is we're kind of es centrally located, so
there was no discussion on going over there. I do
know West Coast teams tend to do that, but for us,
it's just it's so close, and you want to have
the benefit of being at your facility with the team
with the week leading, just because always that's our mentality.
Have this week be as normal as possible for the
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guys and limit distractions, limit like them being out of
their elements, and then hit the ground running on Thursday.
So no, this is a normal road trip. Treat it
like a normal road.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Trip, Melanny. Last one for me, We really appreciate your
time because obviously you are departing the states here coming
up in a few hours. How would you compare this
stadium history is obviously literally through the roof from this
stadium to the Frankfort One a couple of years ago.
For our fans, it might be going over there to
watch the game. What would you compare this stadium to
from a Frankfurt standpoint?
Speaker 6 (49:35):
Oh gosh, I'm very very excited about it. I had
goosebumps in twenty three when I saw the stadium and
the crowd. But this stadium when we went over in April,
and mind you, this was an empty stadium, I had goosebumps.
I think it's absolutely beautiful, it's historic, and just knowing
how the crowd was in Frankfort, I have no doubt
this atmosphere is going to be electric and it helped
with our record. I'm so excited. It's going to be
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a great game and a great weekend.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
Bigger venue, right than the Frankfurt one?
Speaker 6 (50:02):
It sure it sure is. You have bigger city and
a lot more activations. So we're very excited.
Speaker 4 (50:08):
So, Mulaney, the last one I have and I've been
really itching to ask since you joined the call, how
did you get this job? And how do you explain
this to your family? Because my family's like, what the
heck do you do? You write about sports?
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Do you work for the team?
Speaker 6 (50:20):
Do you not?
Speaker 4 (50:21):
But for yours I'm like, how do you even get
in this lane? So did you ever think you'd be
where you are, and yeah, how did you end up
getting this type of job that is very unique?
Speaker 6 (50:30):
The great question. It's really hard to describe what we do.
I always kind of like, what do we It's like
almost what do you not do? What do you do?
I actually started when I went to Saint Mary's College
and I started working for Notre Dame football when I
was a freshman in equipment. Actually loved equipment, worked for
you know, the football team obviously, and got my start,
and then kind of explored different career avenues within and
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took an internship with the Colts about five years ago,
and I loved every minute since. So very grateful to
be here. And I think it's important to have a
little bit of an equipment background. You understand kind of
the grunt work that goes into getting a team, you know,
put together helmets, shoulder paths, all the things. And the
more knowledge you can build, the better well went in
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doubt
Speaker 1 (51:14):
Just put Blue in charge and everything will be perfect,
I'm sure exactly
You were listening to the best of the Fan Morning
show on ninety three five and one oh seven five
The Fan Good Morning. In his trade deadline day for
the Indianapolis Colts, will address that coming up in a
few minutes where Carlisle stops by in thirty minutes to
talk about the return of Myles Turner and where the
Pacers are as they get ready to play one more
home game against Brooklyn this week and then head out
(00:21):
out of the road.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
But let's talk more about the.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Indianapolis Colts coming up their second loss of the season
on the road against the Pittsburgh Steelers, and what did
we learned yesterday with just listening to to Colts talk
about everything when it was all said and done. Where
do you think the coaching staff feels they are after
this loss and what they need to do to kind
of get back on track.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Kevin h Yeah. I think Shane's I can express a
little bit more of a you know, maybe could have
involved Jonathan Taylor, you know, earlier in the game. I'm
not maybe as critical of that. I think it's been
pretty typical MO for Shane Stike, and you know, Taylor
still leads the league in carries and I just think
the bigger issue was you weren't effective running it. You know,
(01:01):
I didn't think the quantity when the game was still
in doubt was that different. I mean, he had fourteen
carries through three quarters. If it's a close game, he's
going to have another, what six carries in the fourth quarter,
He's gonna have a twenty carry day. That's you know,
in today's NFL, that's a pretty normal or actually pretty
unique number for a starting running back. So but yeah,
(01:23):
Shane expressed a little bit of regret on that.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And now I mentioned that there is one chance to
improve this team outside of just getting players healthy again
this year. It is today, the trade deadline is coming up.
James are going to read you what they wrote on
ESPN dot com today Indianapolis Colts chance to make the
playoffs right now? Ninety seven point six percent, adding, subtracting
or sitting it out. Before I say what they said,
(01:48):
what would you believe adding, subtracting or sitting out for
Chris Ballard today?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
What they will do? What they should do?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
What do you want them? What do you think they
should do?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
What do I think they should do?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
You'll be Chris Ballard for a minute.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Let's go show the man shopping, you know, not like
you know what my boy fifty cents said. We're not
windows shopping. We want to go in there and actually
get something and put it in the cart, put it
in the buggy and walk out. Be like Miell Jackson
that twenty interview years be goes.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I want five of these. I want eight of those.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Yes, that's incredible. Recall there, Mark, I would say, let's
go out there and try to upgrade at defensive end.
Now I will say, I'm not so sure. Who else
is necessarily left of the bunch. Jelen Phillips got moved,
I believe to Philly. I know a couple other kind
of lower level edge Rusher's got moved. Trean Henderson obviously
(02:36):
so available. But I just think that I have a
little trepidation there because one, it's only the Bengals. Actually
asking price is pretty high for a first round pick.
I would not give up a first round pick for
Tree Henderson. But in addition to that, he's injured and
also older, So it feels like if you were going
to make a move for him, I would feel more
comfortable doing it if he was at least at least healthy.
(02:57):
That's my other thing. So yeah, I don't know. I
feel like this is why I don't want to be
a GM. I'm saying, make a move, but I don't
know what's move to make. Do something like I got
like a little stick. Just poke it like poke the
you know, the trade deadline button, and see what a
surprise you get.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I feel like you don't get to be in this
position very often in the NFL. You're you're seven and two.
Your offense has been a juggernaut, even even with the
sixth How about this, Kevin, even with six turnovers, they
scored twenty points. With six turnovers, they scored four times.
It's this offense.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Is really better, Kevin.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
No, because you still can't turn it all over. You
just you're never even in with it.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
It's never even a one score game usually if there's
six turnovers. I just think there's a chance to do
something special with this team. To me, if you're gonna
swing big, you want to talk about real big. And
there's no chance Chris Ball would ever do this. And
I don't even know exactly what the contract is left,
but we saw him pick up a nice young player
with a first round draft pick when he went and
got the forest bucking the right, why not at least
(04:01):
call and find out what Brian Burns' situation is with
the New York Giants, Because I'm telling you, I watched
that guy in Carolina.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Went before I, before he even became mature.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
That guy is a game wrecker with the right people
around him on a defensive line.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, certainly as a game wrecker, I would assume the
Giants are not in the mood to do that. But yeah,
I think that's a call you would certainly make and
just pray that they pick up on the other end,
or at least entertain you for a for a few
minutes there, so you know those of the moves. See
to me, cornerback has just lessened on the need scale.
(04:34):
I was really impressed by what Jalen Jones showed.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
How much more lesson was it after seeing him play?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, definitely, Yeah, I mean credit to Jalen Jones for
lessening that.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I I shocked that he looked that good and it
was first game. Mean, he wasn't playing notice for anybody else,
but he wasn't playing like a nobody.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
No.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I mean to get back half two catches in the game.
I mean, I think if you look at where I've
been at the last few weeks, it was always probably
a little bit more edge rusher than corner I could
definitely hear you out at cornerback. But you know, assuming
Javarious war can get back after the bye week, but
you might go to Kansas City here after the bye
week with a cornerback trio of Kenny Moore, Javarius Ward
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and Jalen Jones. That would make me sleep a little
easier at night. Where's the pass rush? I don't sleep
much easier at all? And you know, okay, did as
j T twoem all allow really showed you anything to
maybe make you sleep better? No, not really. And we're
seeing pass rushers get moved Dray Moont Jones move, Jalen
Phillips move. So you know we had a text earlier
(05:31):
about the whole two to tango. Well, some teams are
finding that they're finding a dance partner here, so I'll
be very interested to see how the next eight hours
play out.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Wow, this swim swim that.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Should be Chris Ballard Windows shopping for free for trade deadline.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Do that at least give me ride Jackson at the
antique store.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Michael Jackson's voice always gets me.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
At least give me riding the danger field at the
pro shop. I take one of those and two.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Have you ever had that experience in your life? Anybody
on this show? I can't think of a dollar tree? Yeah,
good point. But even then, all the dollar tree days,
I have my grandmother.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
She's just twelve dollars to the dollar tree.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I remember you just to go to thrift toward her
and I swear everything in there was like ten cents,
and she will allow me to touch nothing. Still, Grandma
was not give it up an extra dollar because I
wanted something. But yeah, I again, I feel like if
a move is not made, the reaction from the fan
base is gonna be, oh, like, you guys were cowards,
(06:34):
you didn't go for it. But what's a reasonable request?
What's what's a reasonable line to say no, I'm not
gonna do this. Well That's where I'm at.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, and I think I think you've seen a couple
moves again, the Draymond Jones saying last night, for what
it was a conditional fifth or fourth I forget exactly
what it was, you know, the Jalen Phillips. You know
those are if you want to use a baseball analogy,
those are nice double swings. Are they going to mortgage
your draft capital moving forward? No? But are the third?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
You think the third was okay for John Phillips. Well, personally,
I'm like a third it's kind of hogh.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
But if you're playing the common pit game and he
goes and signs a deal next year and to get
a fifth back or something, then you know you you
lessen some of the sting there and send it a
third rounder. I just think it's a unique time for
the franchise. Your offense is at a historic level.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
You just want me to work later today. I see
how it is.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Oh, don't you have to write one or the other?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah, this is actually very true.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
They didn't make a deal.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I'm just joking, honestly. If you're asking me myself, give
me the action every time, like, give me the something
to write about or react to it. And really, again, to
your point, it's it's a different season, isn't what teams
haven't seen in the past.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I don't want to act like the Colts are the
I don't want to act like they're aging or this
is a one year opportunity, but the NFL window is
usually much smaller than other leagues windows. And also it's
a little bit of a We've talked about it with
Daniel Jones, Alec Pierce, maybe Braden Smith, maybe Nick Cross.
(08:05):
Things are going to get complicated financially for you moving forward.
So you know how you fit all of that in there.
I think it's going to be a little bit more challenging.
And you know, Zia Franklin and to Forrest Buckner and
go over Stewart and Quentin Nelson and brain to it.
You know, these guys are all, you know, getting up
there a little bit more in age.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, and by the way, Brian Burns has a contract
through twenty twenty eight, so.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
That would take a lot of restructure. And I just
it would take a.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Lot of restructure. But I'm just telling you, that's a dude.
He can help.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Yeah, he got that's a dude.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
That's a dude.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
And I don't know if it again, there's a lot
of that would have to happen. I'm just throwing it
out there because it's trade day and if you're gonna
if you're gonna at least dream, at least dream big,
because I think that's a guy. Now, look, the Giants
aren't going anywhere. They're going to try to rebuild that
franchise around Jackson Dartin. To your point, Kevin, maybe he's
a part of their rebuilding plan.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Maybe that's and I feel like we've had a report
with the Giants of like, no, we're not going to
do that. Now say yeah, yeah, I am all for
calling Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
So here's what ESPN dot com has to say, adding, subtracting,
or sitting it out.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Quote. Let's say, ad with.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Caution, there's a move for general manager Chris Ballad to
make if the Colts feel so inclined. They are depleted
at cornerback, and the Colts are on the radar with
Trey Hendrickson. Although Ballard typically stands Patty has a lot,
he has a hot team. That might be the proverbial
one player away, that's the whole thing. Are you truly
one player away on defense?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Does it feel that way to you? One player away?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I don't know, but I'd feel much more comfortable if
the past rush got an injection of life. That's how
I would summarize it. And I'd rather try than keep
the bat on the shoulders.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, well that's what we'll be keeping an eye on
a little bit later on today.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
And our time is gonna be like Mickey Rojas. Yeah
seriously is it like four pm? Our time four pm?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah, So we'll keep an eye on that and listen
to Jake all day from New three, and of course
jamvuh the trade deadline will come and go during his
show later on today. If you're just joining us, Yes,
Miles Turner returns to the field House last night. You
heard about it live at ninety three five and one
on seven to five of the Fan and James, You
and I were both there.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
He heard about it right before the game too, didn't he.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah, And I saw his reaction on the bench and
shout out to Whichs TV for capturing this moment because
I saw a little bit of it from my angle.
But where we sit, Jeff, obviously you can't like you're
behind the visiting bench, so you can't necessarily see the
front side of the player. Lets say, show it on
the jumbo tron.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
We're kind of up in the corner.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Yeah, So which TV caught the angle of him sitting
right in front of them, and when they were booing
him during the player intros. After the tribut video was over,
Miles sitting there with like his poems open and both
hands kind of out and he flipped them closed like
he was closing a chapter of a book, so to speak.
And then he kind of egged on the crowd a
little bit, waved with hands to kind of antagonize them.
And I think my biggest takeaway is that Miles is
(10:59):
not necessarily a villain. And I don't say that with
regard to the fan base saying, oh, this is how
we feel about him. He turned on us, he's a
turncoat whatever. I just mean that I don't think he,
in his heart can be the villain. So to me,
it all kind of feels like it's it's more of
a character type of thing he's trying to put on
(11:21):
or a cloak or something, because it doesn't feel real.
I mean, if you're true villain's probably I mean Draymond
Green to me is like a true villain. He doesn't
carry anybody thinks. Dennis Rodman didn't carr anybody thinks. I
think Miles to a degree still cares. And he talked
about it after the game to his credit, where he
felt disappointed and a bit disrespected with how things kind
(11:42):
of played out, But ultimately, man, I don't think that
Miles necessarily the villain. And I will say, though, if
you are going to be the villain and lean into
that role a little bit more than you had before,
it helps to have a bigger villain on your side,
because I'm sure Pacers fans don't like Giannis either.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, would you guys say the percentage of booze were.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
It's funny you were just saying that that was what
I was going to bring up. I would say, seventy
five twenty five. Does that sound about right? Because there
were some people, there were people up there, There were
people up there applauding for him. Maybe because we could
hear it up on the second dec D.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Yeah, there were seventy thirty seventy.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Thirty, seventy five twenty five in that area.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Yeah, boy, I didn't. I didn't know how they would
react to the video necessary because I figured they would boom,
They blew that man through the entire video. I was like,
they gave you gosh THEO you know, I figured it
would be you know kind of I don't know the
first time you hear his name in the video, and
but no, as soon as they got to the park
where he was saying, uh was it the Indiana Like,
(12:39):
they were thinking, uh, how dare you play this this again?
Speaker 5 (12:43):
So I was.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Surprised he played well early. I thought it'd be deer
in headlights for him early on in that game. Yeah,
and I thought he played pretty well now, like kind
of a disappearing actly. Those middle quarters did have a
huge block there late in the fourth quarter, and boy,
for a brief second there, I don't think he would
have gotten the shot off in time. But when Siakam
came to double or I think it was Jackson. Jackson
(13:05):
came to double back Jani and Turner was open again.
I don't think Gianni's could have got it to Turner
and Turner could have flipped it up there in time.
But I thought to myself, is he about ready to
have a game winning shot opportunity here? That'd have been
quite the scene.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
I know Rianna's ruined a Disney moment, man, because if
he makes the shot, you're the villain. You missed a shot.
Oh you're getting booed out of there. So again, I
respect Miles, and I think that's just from a media standpoint,
but I do respect the fan base from the standpoint
of we're allowed to boo. I know, Gianni's one of
the whole soliloqui after the game about you know, giving
(13:41):
ten years to a team, all time leading blocks and
all these things about how the Pacers should have respected
Miles more. But I mean, look, I paid my money.
I'm not cursing the man out. I'm just booing, So
I feel that's fair.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I did think, yeah, and I was, you know, I
think I've been. I mean, for the most part, I'm
you know, always team fandom and team bou if it
if you'd like, you're you're paying money, you can do
as you please. I did think Miles pregame and Mark,
if we have that audio, go ahead and queue that up.
This is with Tony Eastenson reporters pregame at the shoot around.
(14:14):
I guess yesterday morning probably would be the best way
to put it. I did think, for the most part,
he clarified his comments. I thought fairly well. Basically, to
summarize it, he feels like and he made it clear
front office and ownership, Front office and ownership. He feels
like the rug was kind of pulled out from under him,
and I would insert here, well that's what happens in
(14:35):
Tyrese Haliburton tears his achilles. But nonetheless, this was Turner
at shoot around yesterday with a lot of the indie media.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
It said all the time that this league is a business,
and I got my first real you know, takes what
that business since meant you know, obviously you got to
take some of the emotions out of this. So no,
it didn't changed out thought here. Now ownership in front
office's a different story. That's everything to do between me
and them, not to do with the fans.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
It's a sick that was when you said, like, go
where your celebrated, and I think you know you tweeted
about that after that. That wasn't about the fans. I mean,
I guess do you feel like you were celebrated here?
I feel like.
Speaker 7 (15:08):
We'll talk about value if you go with your values
in the sense and I feel like the front office
and you know, the ownership value met Milwaukee more than
the front office and ownership may value me here in Indiana.
So again, I wasn't a shot the fans. I see
how fans would have took that personally, you know, just
just how fresh you were off of, you know, such
a great run and whatnot. But again, I'm gonna see
the running the camera by no means anything I said
I ain't doing with the fans or the city man.
(15:30):
You know, I said, there's strictly a business uh uh,
just you know, a business decision for me personally.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I get it. Four years one hundred and eight millions
different than three years sixty six million.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Math and money. And as I always tell you all,
you can't put loyalty in the bank, but you can't
put cash in there.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
You can move me all you want for next to
forty million dollars.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Yeah, But at the same time, I still think that
there's a certain level of like what's the right word,
like gas lighting to a degree that Miles is doing
because some of the stuff that he said you didn't
have to say, like the last shot, I guess if
you want to interpret it that way towards Tyresea. Oh,
he could talk his stuff and people know we won't
(16:12):
do anything if we're in the actual real street. And
it's like, Okay, why was that comment needed if your
aim is to describe how the front office made you feel?
So I think that shot, you know, the I wanted
to go somewhere where I will celebrate. But also I think.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I probably shouldn't have said something.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
But I think was something about, like you know, and
he clarified that too, but it was something along the
lines that I wanted to go somewhere where we could
like contend or compete. I think compete was the word,
and that sounds like, oh man, like Tyree's gets hurt,
screw it, where it's over, it's done. I don't have
a chance to win a ring here, so uh, some
of that. I just think that could have been avoided
if he just really didn't talk about it. But at
(16:57):
the same time, as we always say, Kevin look for
better or worse, I like when athletes saw us that
they really feel we want and yeah, and you can
boo the honesty, you can be mad at it, but
at least you know how he feels. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I think there's probably a few times where he's opened
his mouth try to act like a little bit more
of a bad boy than he really is.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
That's what I'm saying. It's not him. I don't think
that's really him.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
He's not the villain. He's the kid that shows up
with the high school party, and it's like, wait a minute,
you know, can you stay outside? Like you know, this
is a little bit different in the you know, in
this atmosphere here. And I think yesterday again he did
try to clarify a lot of those comments, and I
thought he really did. But he's just not built to
be you know, I've said this about Jonathan Taylor for
(17:36):
years ago. Jonathan Taylor's not built to be a holdout guy.
Some guys are built to be the holdout guys.
Speaker 8 (17:40):
Oh no, Jay's he looked mighty built to be a holdout.
Council was more built to be the the holdout guy.
And how he was how I should be a wrestler.
And that's the agent for Jonathan Taylor for those unfamiliar
with that.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
But you know, it won't make a light today. We
won't play the audio. But Miles was uber complim memory
of Indiana's sports environment yesterday. Oh yes, pre game, I
mean he was, you know, singing the praises of what
that building has meant to him, and you know how
much he loves the crowd, et cetera, et cetera. And
then once you get in the game setting, you're gonna
have some reactions like he did there. So again, I'm
(18:17):
looking forward to ten am when we don't have to
talk about it.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Jonathan, I thought you're gonna say something else. Jonathan fan
Anderson says Turner was booed for the comments he made
on that podcast, mainly his comments on Halliburton.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
In his opinion, Yeah, and again to one of the
comments in the YouTube chat, did you just mention in
my opinion, I feel like yes, it's only viewed as
a shot if you view that one clip. But that's
the thing. That's the world we live in. Like Miles
is not new to this. He knows whatever you say,
especially when you bring up Tyreez, who is the most
beloved player within the franchise, if it can be interpreted
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in any derogatory way, that is what's going to happen.
So I think you can avoid some of that if
you just give the man his flowers and stay away
from the whole. Well, he acts tough, he does this,
He does that like okay, and he also give up
his achilles, which is pretty tough to do, you know
for a guy trying to compete for a championship.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Are the booze as loud as they were last night?
If Miles Turners in a Sun's uniform.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Probably not.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I think it makes a difference that it is Milwaukee
and so much as transpired in the last three years especially.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yeah, I saw somebody say like it was the light
version of Kevin Urant going to the Warriors, and I
was like.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Relax, like light light light light light light j V light.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
YEA, let's puff the brakes here. But yeah, I do
think the rivalry, how much these groups seem to competitively
hate each other. I mean, you saw the frankin fraul
last night from Aaronice with Oniani, which I don't think
it was dirty play, but just those types of moments
in the game. Yeah, I think that that adds to
certainly some of the fuel. But for me, it's a
great theater.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Can I say one of my favorite trolls at the
Fieldhouse though, is whenever Giannis shoots the free throws and
he bounces the ball repeatedly forever and the crowd just
counts three pounced.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Him and him and Siakam are similar with the free throws,
where they're both great players. I want them to have
the ball in their hands at the end of the game,
make the play whatever. But I don't trust either if
I need to free throws at the end of the game.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
By the way, great knight for Isaiah Jackson. He needed
it twenty one to ten in that matchup. I would
assume this is one he probably circled a little bit.
Oh yeah, you to the best right now. Hell, look
fake for a huge bucket there in the fourth quarter.
And you know, I probably need to do this at
times with Isaiah Jackson as well. One year removed from
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the Achilles, Yeah, one year moved from the as just
gonna get better and better to wait, what is he
twenty three, twenty four years old? So again, is there
a little bit more there? Because boy, the Pacers desperately
desperately need him. For those that were not watching last night,
Quintin Jackson left of the hamstring injury, James, you mentioned
Johnny Furfey on crutches after the game. On the injuries
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just keep on coming, and I don't you know, usually
there's a progression of these guys get back. We'll see
what Rick Carlisle shares here in a few minutes. But
you know, Andrew Nemhart and Benedict Matheren are still listed
as out. You know, usually there's like, hey, you're questionable
for a game, and then you maybe you know, get
to that, Hey you're gonna play two games from now. So,
assuming Quentin Jackson's going to miss time, I would guess
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they could either go back to Ben Shephard as their
starting point guard, which I don't think I would do.
I'd probably vote for either Ray J. Dennis or Mac McClung.
As they get the winless Brooklyn Nets, I believe, Are
they the only one this team left?
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:28):
I believe so, uh win seven Brooklyn Nets? Wait, it
might be the Pelicans.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Do the Pelicans win yet?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
No? I don't think so. It's the disastrous down there
in No Len's Now.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
The Nets have been a public about it. The Nets
are trying to lose, and they've lost very successfully so far.
So the Pacers desperately need to get that one tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Well again, you talked about culture for the Pacers a
little while ago at the beginning of the show, James,
I know, it doesn't buy you victories, and they're probably
gonna end up in the lottery before the thing is
all said and done this year. Maybe that's in the
long run the better thing. That's a different discussion for
a different day. But they keep coming at you. Man,
it doesn't matter who you are, they keep coming at you.
Have the Golden State Warriors the other night they kept
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coming after him.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Gotta win.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
And last night the Milwaukee Bucks, one of the favorites
in the Eastern Conference, they kept coming at him. Just
keep coming at him at least with your team.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
You like that, Yeah, absolutely, And that's their DNA, That's
who they've become under Rick Carlisle. So I can definitely
respect that. But boy, talking to Siakham after the game,
that man is like he wants to waits nothing. I
want to win. I need a victory.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
So that's why we love him.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Yeah, one thing to keep in mind real quick. Pivoting
back to the Colts reporting here from Ian Rappaport, he said,
up the seventh round pick for Logan Wilson. So looking
at that price, maybe the Colts should have been out
on him. If the seventh round pick is all you
need to go get perhaps a better linebacker, who knows.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I think there is a contract element there too that
Dallas is having to absorb, so again in the Colts restructure.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
At the same time, I believe he's on one year deal.
He's an expiring cons right, so it can't be a
whole lot of money they're selling out to go get
Logan Wilson. So something to keep in mind, all.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Right, Coming up in a minute, Rick Carlisle, the head
basketball coach for the Indiana Pacers, joins us on the
fan morning show.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
It's ninety three five and what seven five the fans?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Alright, eight o'clock on a Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
You know what that means.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Rick Carlisle, head coach of the Indiana Pacers, joins us. Now,
PACER's got one more home game coming up here tomorrow night,
that is with Brooklyn before they go back on the road.
And what has been a very challenging start to the season,
not only opponent wise, but certainly from a health standpoint.
And Rick is on the Payloss Lickers Hotline coach, Good
morning to you.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
How are you okay?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
How have you framed? I guess these early losses with
your team? You know, you just watch every night and
you've got you know, half your frontline guys, if not more,
in street clothes. Have you found it challenging at all
when you get into those postgame locker rooms in kind
of framing the effort that you're seeing and obviously comparing
that to your record.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
No, it's not difficult really, with the exception of two games.
The game at Memphis we we did not play well,
did not compete at the level that we needed to.
And then the home game against Atlanta. Those were those
were the two that were not good. And you know, really,
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you've got to be realistic about things, and from a
process standpoint, we have to be at a very high
compete level, a very high unselfish level, and all those things.
And uh, you know, the the other games that we've
played so far, you know we've met those standards, and
so we've just got to be you know, we we
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we've got to have a great level of objectivity here
on the one Here on the other hand, we've got
to we've got to work to get through a challenge
of time.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Rick, when you look at that fourth quarter, you all
were down double digits come back to tie the game.
And I talked to Jars and Pascal after the game.
They were saying that this is sort of their DNA
at this point, and why do you think no matter
who is out there for you guys, you all are
able to rally and have that next play mentality despite
you know, losing two guys throughout the game.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Well, this is what we've built, you know, this is
this is what we've done here. And I say we
it's been everybody, you know, It's been management, It's been
the players, the coaching staff. We we've really have have
strove to, uh to build a culture of compete no
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matter what, you know, get down in dirty as much
as you have to do, as far as you know,
getting on the floor, playing with grit, playing with guts,
all that kind of stuff, and and find a way,
you know, find a way to to to win games,
find a way to stay in games. You know the situation.
So you know, I've been very pleased for the most
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part with with the efforts that we've had, really with
the exception of those two those two games, and you know,
tomorrow's another tough one, and you know, we've lost a
couple more guys here.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Again as Brooklyn tomorrow night for Rick Carlisle and the
Pacers before they head out west. Here. Coach, last night,
I thought Isaiah Jackson gave you arguably probably one of
his better games of his young career. I've found myself
needing to remind myself he's only a year removed from
the torn Achilles. What specifically did you like from Isaiah
last night?
Speaker 5 (26:39):
High level of aggression energy. You know, he's he's one
of our fighters too, you know, he's you know, he's
I know where he's from. You know, I was, I
was in Detroit for a couple of years. You know,
he's from Pontiac, Michigan. I mean, those are those are
tough dudes come out of there, you know, And so
he's a he's a warrior type guy, and very heartening
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to see progress that he's made throughout the process of
return to play. You know, at the beginning, it was
it was difficult.
Speaker 8 (27:11):
You know.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
A lot of ups and downs, and you know, very
clearly did not have great rhythm and trying to get
his legs under him and those kinds of things. Last night,
you know, he just he just was able to bear
down and take things to another level. And so, you know,
this is what we need from him on as many
nights as he can do it. And really, this is
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this is what we ask of everyone, and that is
just to give an unconditionally unselfish and gutty effort, you know,
out there to to compete to win games.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
You mentioned another night of injuries in Quentin Jackson leaving
the game early, so you'll have to change up the
starting line up once again coming up tomorrow night. And
I was curious with all of your injuries, particularly at
point guard. You know, we've talked over the past couple
of years. You know, you've you've really handed the ball
to Tyrese and allowed so much freedom for him to
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run the show. And even I assume some of that
has gone to TJ McConnell or or Andrew Nemhart. Have
you had to, I guess, call more plays from the
sidelines this year of you try Have you had to
create more like structure within the game offensively because of
all the point guard in and outs that you've had
through the first handful of games.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
Well, things are different, for sure. I wasn't sure if
we were going to need to do that at an
extreme level. We have the capability to do it if needed,
you know, on the one hand, we don't have the playmakers,
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the regular guys, you know, you know, tyree'se, TJ and
and Nemahart. On the other hand, the other guys have
have played in this style and have played a you know,
a past move, past move, create a problem type style.
And you know, when when you get in this situation,
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slowing the game down can seem like a good idea,
but uh it can be a curse too, because it's
a lot harder to get shots, uh, let alone score.
So we've tried to keep the tempo up. We need
to keep an element of ball security in uh, you
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know a love ball. Turnovers in this kind of situation
are very difficult to overcome, and the idea is to
play as much through our best players as we can.
And right now, the two guys that are the the
main guys obviously are Passcal Siakam and Aaron Nesmith, and
so a lot of action is going through them, and
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we got to continue to try to find the best
opportunities we can.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Rick.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
When you look at that fourth quarter, Jarris Walker ten
points four for shooting three assists, what did you like
from him down the stretch as far as just making
himself available to knock down some shots, but also play
making a bit to keep you on in that game.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Force, you know, a level of force that is needed,
A level of force that I believe he can go
to on a consistent basis, and so we need more
of that. He's made progress, for sure, people watching our
games can see that. That's an obvious fact. And this
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is a this is an amazing opportunity for him right now.
And so so we need him and he's got to
be a guy that can do a little bit of
everything for us. You know, he's got the ability to guard,
he's got the ability to rebound, really to make open shots.
He drove the ball well last night. His passing is
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is something that is is unique, you know, to to
his sort of body type and skill set, and it's
like an all of the above thing, and uh, you know,
I like, I like, I like the progress that he's made,
and uh, we're gonna keep pushing him forward.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Rick, You've mentioned Forrest a few times throughout Jarius and
his development over the years. How do you teach Forest?
I know he's already a tough guy, but what does
that look like in practice?
Speaker 5 (31:36):
Just a mindset, you know, you simulate situations, you get
out pads, beat beat guys up as they're driving the ball.
Just you know, it's it's a lot of it, a
lot of it as an attitude, you know. And so
look he's he's playing a different style and he played
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at Houston. I'm not really familiar with with what he's
high school and time at IMG looked like from a
style standpoint. I do know that he played point guard
one year at IMG, you know, when they had injuries
and so well, listen, this is this is a golden opportunity,
you know, for for him and in the organization right
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now for him to get you know, some really high level,
meaningful minutes during a period where you know, we're we're
have some we have some real challenges and so we
need him.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Tuesdays, Tuesday's at eight, Rick Carlisle with us here on
the Payloft Sickers hotline again. The PACER's got one more
here at home before they head out west. Obviously some
extra juice in the building last night, Coach, any interactions
with Miles pregame or post game for you, He.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Came over to the bench, you know, to uh shake
hands with people right before the tip that that was it.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yeah, were you surprised at all by the fan rey
action pregame or within the game when Miles touched the ball?
Speaker 5 (33:05):
I don't know. I I guess not. And you know,
if you look at everything that has transpired over whatever
the period of time is. You know a lot of
things I guess have been have been said. I I'm
not I'm not on those social media channels in large
in large part, but you know, you hear things, and
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so you know, divorce is difficult, you know, it's just, uh,
it just is. I will say that that I always
supported Myles, you know, completely, and I always admired the
man that he was when he was a member of
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the Indiana Pacers. Know, he's from a great family and
all that, and uh, you know, sometimes sometimes these things
are difficult, but I harbor no ill feelings toward Miles
as a as a person. It would have been good
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if some of the things said were not said. And
I don't want to get into all that, but you know,
some of the stuff going after teammates unnecessarily didn't didn't
didn't make any sense, you know, with the kind of
character that he's demonstrated here. So it's, uh, it was.
It was tough, you know, it was. It was tough.
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You know, I was I was not expecting that extremer reaction.
But on the one hand, on the other hand, things happen.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Rick last one for me, we talk about franchise pillars
and Miles was one of those guys and now you're
new one over the last couple of years has been
Pascal Siakaman. After the game, he was talking about the
balance of not going crazy because the outcomes of these games,
but also holding himself and it seem accountable for trying
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to close these games out. So I've actually just a
few times, but with Pascal when he talks about growth
in his leadership, how have you seen him push himself
even more at this edge of his career. For a
guy who probably has a Hall of Fame resume already.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
He's just he's an amazing player. I mean, just flat
out and you know, obviously you see the skill set
on the floor. You know, you see the uh, the
integrity with which you know he competes, he's unselfish, all
that kind of stuff. And then and then there's a
leadership element to it. You know that is uh an
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everyday thing that hasn't waivered, you know. So he's just
he's extremely special. And this is really you go back
in the history of the pacers in the NBA. Yeah,
I don't know that you're going to find a more
significant acquisition, player acquisition transaction, whatever you want to call it.
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You know, in the history of the of the of
the Pacers, you know, during their NBA time. I'm not
as I'm not as versed on the ABA transactions that
that happened, but as far as the NBA, I mean
being able to trade for a guy like this and
and he he came to Indiana because he wanted to
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play with Tyrese Haliburton, and he wanted to play with
the style that we were developing in a culture that
we were building, and that those things, those things are
very gratifying. Our fans should be very proud of that,
our organization should be very proud of that too. And
we need him now more than ever. I don't you know,
I don't. I don't think that comes as any surprise
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to anybody.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Coach kind of going off that and last one, and
as always, we appreciate the time you mentioned AARONI. Smith
alongside Pascal earlier. I thought it was a huge left
handed drive late in the game from Aaron E. Smith.
As you're having to turn to other guys late in
games right now, where is there bal in hell? Maybe
there's no balance at this point. It's just the state
of your your playing time. Is there any balance of
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putting too much on the plate of Aaron and Pascal
and realizing that you know, oh boy, they have so
much to handle right now for your for your franchise.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Yeah, it's just, you know, it comes down to it
was down the minutes, and it was down to the
load that you're talking about and trying to navigate it
is best is can can be done. You know, it's yeah,
I think you look at the stat sheet after the
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game last night, and you know, to me, the two
stats that are the most telling is that Giannis plays
thirty one minutes and Pascal plays thirty eight. And you know,
that's that's something that is hard to overcome right now.
You know, you just you need your your best players
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on the floor as much as possible. So I got
to keep looking at it, got to keep being i think,
very vigilant about getting him and Aaron their rest. You know,
Ernly played playing a little under thirty four minutes last night.
You know that's at the manageable number, you know, but
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we just you know, I just got to try to
keep these guys as fresh as possible. I think at
this point that's a pretty obvious statement.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Any chance Andrew or Ben played for you as you
guys head out west, I mean.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
You're talking about that's a that's a week, ten days out.
So is there a chance we'll get some guys back?
Speaker 3 (38:58):
There's a chance, Rick Carlisle on the Payless Liquers Hotline again,
Pacers and nets coming up tomorrow night inside of Gambridge
Field House before they indeed head out west. Coach as always,
thank you, oh.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
Great figure up.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Tuesday is going well as we continue here on the
Fan Morning Show ninety through five, one oh seven five
the Fan, Big week for the Indianapolis Colts. You got
the trade deadline coming your way at four pm Eastern
later on today. The Colts trying to bounce back from
that loss to Pittsburgh. They're still seven to two and
still the number one team in the AFC, and now
they pack up and head to Berlin for a game
on Sunday morning against the Atlanta Falcons. And here to
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tell us a little bit more about what it's like
to move an entire franchise for a week to a
completely different country on a different continent, is Melanie Lowe.
She is the director of Football operations for your Indianapolis colts,
and she joins us now in the Payless Lookers hotline.
Good morning, Melanie, there's nothing on your to do list.
I'm sorry, m'laney. I'm sorry, Millenia.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
My bad.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
I can't even good morning.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
How are you guys?
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Well, I've been.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Schooled and appropriately so, but welcome to the We appreciate
you being here in the morning on a Tuesday, but
I was going to say, you have nothing on your
to do list today?
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Do you well?
Speaker 6 (40:07):
I have four hours to go and we're boarding planes
on our way to Berlin, US a dance group. We've
got ten of us going there ahead of the team today.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Melani, thank you for the time. I know this has
been probably quite the undertaking, although I don't know, maybe
Frankfurt braced you a little bit for it, although a
different part of Germany walk us through twenty twenty five
from I think you guys had an advance in the
spring as well, as much as you find it interesting
to you or our audience, What has this process been
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like as early as going out there back in the spring.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
Absolutely well, first and foremost, thanks for having me. I
really appreciate it. Yeah, so we went over in April,
and we've been working on this trip ever since. We
got notified right around in February that we were going
over to Berlin, and just it hasn't stopped. We went
over in April and saw the stadium, the hotel, the
practice site, and got to choose given that we're the
home team, we got to choose the different sites that
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we prefer what was best for the team. Came back
to our colleagues, shared the information, and hit the ground
running on planning. It's been interesting too because you realize,
you know, you're planning two trips every week up until
this game, like you're planning for Pittsburgh last week and Berlin,
or you know, preseason training camp and Berlin. So it's
really exciting to get this thing rolling and we're excited
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to go.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
You were most nervous about what, or maybe the hardest
thing to plan was what I think.
Speaker 6 (41:29):
The hardest thing is always the aircraft, just because there's
so many things that can go wrong, and that's the
most important thing. You got to get them there right.
And then once they're there, a lot of things you
can adjust and kind of figure out on the fly,
but they've got to have a plane to get there,
so we had to contract and reach out to several
different airlines. Hey can you take us? What does it cost?
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You know, negotiating pricing and just do you have availability,
Like what's the biggest aircraft, what's most comfortable for our team?
And from there we get to customize our entire plane.
So where the players sit, the manifest, when do the
lakes turn off? What kind of food do we serve?
All of that is really customizable. So I think that's
really the biggest chunk that we've had to figure out
this year.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
Milani Low joining us here on a payoff Slickers hot line,
the director of football operations for the Colts and Milani.
I have to ask this because I feel like my
passport is staring at me every time I leave my
apartment because I'm going heading over to Germany as well
later this week. How high up on the list is
that for reminding players to actually bring that?
Speaker 6 (42:30):
Oh gosh, you have no idea.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
I think that's what keeps me up at night.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
So we we don't.
Speaker 6 (42:34):
I mean, we trust them, but we do, right, So
we collect all of those back in training camp, We're like, okay,
you're back here. You're ready, you're lucked in for a season.
We're taking your passport for you. So and you have
to you know, realize too when we're doing all the
transactions and different you know, the roster is fluctuating. We're
making sure that these guys have passports, visas, all.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
Of the things.
Speaker 6 (42:53):
But that's high on the priority. We start that in April. Okay,
who needs passports. Let's get you going, Let's get the
process rolling.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
That's crazy to think about all the things that you
have to be responsible for to make sure that they
only have to show up and play. What's the one
thing you've learned through this process that you just didn't
know going in.
Speaker 6 (43:14):
That's a great question. I think that, like, relying on
the people around you is really important. So whether it's
the league or the people in Germany, they're experts at
what they do, so making sure that you make really
great connections when you're over there, and like the soccer team,
for example, we're playing at a professional soccer teams practice
site and using them as resources. Hey, what type of
protein powder do you use? Or you know, what does
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your training equipment your weight room look like? Can we
use some of the things that you guys have while
we're over there, since not everything's accepted or we can't
ship over everything that we normally would use, just with customs,
So it's a lot of learning, like, hey, what's allowed
into the country, what does customs look like, and what's
necessary to bring over. Like you said, I mean, at
the end of the day, we want to make sure
this is as seamless as possible, making sure the guys
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have everything that they need and it replicates a home
game and still allow them and experience in Germany.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
So the voice of Mulani Low, she certainly will deserve
a cold beverage coming up late Sunday whenever the Colts
do depart from Germany and everything is back to normal.
I say that in quotes. She's the director of football
ops for the Colts. Mullany, you mentioned the home aspect
to it, if I'm not mistaken, I want to say
the Colts were the road team back in twenty sixteen
as well when they went to London, and then you
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guys were the road team with New England a couple
of years ago. So the home element for our audience
that might not be super familiar with that with the
international games. That provides what for you.
Speaker 6 (44:38):
When we were in Berlin in April, we got to
have first choice on all of the hotels the practice sites,
so we get first DIBs. Whatever works best for our team,
we decide, and then the Atlanta Falcons came in second.
It also, weirdly enough, it allows us to leave the
country first, so if not Germany does have a curse
you so you can fly past eleven pm, which we
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ran into that in twenty three, getting close to that
eleven o'clock deadline, then you would have to stay in
the country. So it gives us priority out of the
country to make sure our team can get back to
the US and have a normal by week that following week.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
Well, and nothing's gonna make those boys jog a little
bit more to the bus than that potential of staying
another night there. Do you guys have home presentation within
the game? I don't know, maybe that doesn't fall on
your plate, but like, well the game aspect, you know,
I don't know, commercial breaks, those sorts of things. Jumbo
Tron music. Is that all cults correct?
Speaker 6 (45:33):
Yes? Absolutely. We have fan activation throughout the city leading
up too. We have a big activation outside of the stadium.
The pain itself on the field will represent both teams,
but in game experience will all be the Colts.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
Well, Annie, now I know you discussed getting the players
over there, but as far as equipment goes, do that
travels separately? How do you all make sure that helmets,
shoulder pads and I don't know, band aids are all
making the flip trip and flat over as well.
Speaker 6 (46:00):
Absolutely, I think that's one of the biggest other than
the aircraft. Sending stuff over is one of the biggest
lifts for us. So we send we actually send everything
on a boat back in August, so while we're prepping
for a training camp and going on the road for
away joint practices, we're also shipping stuff for Germany, so
there's a lot of moving pieces in August just to
get preps. So you're trying to think ahead, like, hey,
what will I need in three months and wrap your
(46:22):
head around that. So we send everything on a boat
that has to be put on what's called the karnae,
and it's broken out like how much does it weigh,
the country of origin, all the serial numbers, so it's
a pretty tedious process, and then we fly some of
our equipment also on the plane things that we can't
necessarily ship in August, such as your shoulder pads and
your helmets.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
So can you explain what karnae is? Because we were
talking about this earlier. Kevin brought it up and I
told him, well, the only carne I know is Carne
is Sada. Yeah, so something in Baker's field correct exactly.
So yeah, I'm with you, but you kind of lost
me there.
Speaker 6 (46:56):
I wish it was that. No, So it's actually all
the paperwork, the documentation for customs. So it's this long,
fifty page document and it lists every single item, every
single band aid, every single piece of equipment that you
can name in all of our trunks that we bring over.
We have to put the serial numbers, the country of origin,
the weights, all of that on documentation, send it over
(47:17):
to German Customs to get approved. I wish it was food,
Unfortunately it's not.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
How would you compare Millennia Lo Cold director football ops
with us yere on the paylistickers hotline? How would you
compare the international charter to your weekly domestic charters.
Speaker 6 (47:33):
We try to keep it as consistent as possible, just
so the guys have familiarity. So tons of snacks, more
than you could ever eat in your life, tons of drinks,
nigration items, supplement. So I would say it's very similar.
It's a bigger aircraft. We try to make sure these
guys are taken care of. We have sixty lay down
flat seats pods, so they're going to be comfortable with
fifty three man rosters set, you know. So I think
(47:55):
that it's a little bit more spacious, get the guys
to stretch out a little bit more, but operation a
couple more meals on the flight, and like I said,
we customarized all of that from start to finish. When
do we dim the lights? When do we want to
wake them up and turn the lights on? You know
how many pillows and blankets do we order? All of
that stuff run through us and our departments and all
the people around us too. It's the huge support staff
(48:17):
at cold Set kind of get this thing moving and grooving.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Mulaney Low.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
She is the director of football Operations for the.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
Indianapolis Colts, in charge of helping them get from here
to there. There being Berlin on Sunday, it's really more
of a West Coast team questionings. I've seen it before,
but was there ever any discussion or thought about, hey,
you're already way on the East Coast playing in Pittsburgh,
any chance of just flying straight to Berlin from there?
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Was it always coming back to Indy?
Speaker 3 (48:42):
Great question.
Speaker 6 (48:43):
I think that's one of the huge benefits of being
in Indianapolis is we're kind of es centrally located, so
there was no discussion on going over there. I do
know West Coast teams tend to do that, but for us,
it's just it's so close, and you want to have
the benefit of being at your facility with the team
with the week leading, just because always that's our mentality.
Have this week be as normal as possible for the
(49:04):
guys and limit distractions, limit like them being out of
their elements, and then hit the ground running on Thursday.
So no, this is a normal road trip. Treat it
like a normal road.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Trip, Melanny. Last one for me, We really appreciate your
time because obviously you are departing the states here coming
up in a few hours. How would you compare this
stadium history is obviously literally through the roof from this
stadium to the Frankfort One a couple of years ago.
For our fans, it might be going over there to
watch the game. What would you compare this stadium to
from a Frankfurt standpoint?
Speaker 6 (49:35):
Oh gosh, I'm very very excited about it. I had
goosebumps in twenty three when I saw the stadium and
the crowd. But this stadium when we went over in April,
and mind you, this was an empty stadium, I had goosebumps.
I think it's absolutely beautiful, it's historic, and just knowing
how the crowd was in Frankfort, I have no doubt
this atmosphere is going to be electric and it helped
with our record. I'm so excited. It's going to be
(49:58):
a great game and a great weekend.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
Bigger venue, right than the Frankfurt one?
Speaker 6 (50:02):
It sure it sure is. You have bigger city and
a lot more activations. So we're very excited.
Speaker 4 (50:08):
So, Mulaney, the last one I have and I've been
really itching to ask since you joined the call, how
did you get this job? And how do you explain
this to your family? Because my family's like, what the
heck do you do? You write about sports?
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Do you work for the team?
Speaker 6 (50:20):
Do you not?
Speaker 4 (50:21):
But for yours I'm like, how do you even get
in this lane? So did you ever think you'd be
where you are, and yeah, how did you end up
getting this type of job that is very unique?
Speaker 6 (50:30):
The great question. It's really hard to describe what we do.
I always kind of like, what do we It's like
almost what do you not do? What do you do?
I actually started when I went to Saint Mary's College
and I started working for Notre Dame football when I
was a freshman in equipment. Actually loved equipment, worked for
you know, the football team obviously, and got my start,
and then kind of explored different career avenues within and
(50:53):
took an internship with the Colts about five years ago,
and I loved every minute since. So very grateful to
be here. And I think it's important to have a
little bit of an equipment background. You understand kind of
the grunt work that goes into getting a team, you know,
put together helmets, shoulder paths, all the things. And the
more knowledge you can build, the better well went in
(51:14):
doubt
Speaker 1 (51:14):
Just put Blue in charge and everything will be perfect,
I'm sure exactly
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