December 3, 2025 • 41 mins
00:00 – 19:45 – Kevin rants on the College Football Playoff and Notre Dame’s place in it, Colts cut Badgley and have a new kicker, the workout of Justin Tucker, Pacers-Nuggets tonight, Pacers odds for the top pick in the NBA Draft, Chris Paul gets waived by Clippers
19:46 – 34:17 - ESPN Colts reporter Stephen Holder joins us and discusses the frigid temperatures, his optimism level for the Colts heading into Sunday, the waiving of Michael Badgley and the tryout of Justin Tucker, it’ll be different in Jacksonville this time because…, Daniel Jones’ play the last few weeks, better chance Sauce Gardner or Anthony Richardson play before the end of the regular season
34:18 – 41:21 - Indiana Sports Corp’s Dan Gliot joins us to discuss the Big Ten Championship weekend and all the festivities going on around town, the amount of planning that goes into an event of this magnitude, other upcoming events coming to town
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You were listening to the best of the Fan Morning
Show on ninety three five and one oh seven five
The Fan. Good Morning. Welcome in to the Fan Morning
Show along with Kevin Bowen, James Boyd, Mark Dyke, and
I'm Jeff Rickard. And we've been talking a little bit
this morning about the brand new college football playoff rankings
and this is the next to last ranking before the
college conference championships are going to be played throughout the
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next six seven days or so. And Kevin Bowen, I
know you are not a fan right now. Notre Dame
is in. They were passed up a little bit by Alabama,
but they are in at this point in time. But
you're not a big fan of not only how this
thing gets decided, but the folks who make up the committee.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I you let me start here, because when you call
yourself a Notre Dame fan, people hate you. So people
hate me enough for that. So let me clarify. When
you lose two games, you're not bowltproof. You guys saw
my dejection the Monday after the Texas A and M
loss earlier this year.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It took you six weeks to get out of that, right.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I knew full well that even if you did rattle
off ten in a row by an average of thirty points,
which Notre Dame has done. Here, we are debating them
as the final team in and they deserve it. You
scheduled Miami and Texas A and M. You need to
beat one of those two if you want to sit
here on December third and kick your feet up when
it comes to these playoff rankings. Having said that, the
fact that the Committee last night explained to us that
(01:22):
Alabama jumped Notre Dame because they beat a one SEC
win Auburn team by seven points on Saturday, as Notre
Dame beat a very similar opponent by thirty on the
road made zero sense to me whatsoever. The one win
(01:44):
that Auburn has in the SEC is over Arkansas. You
know what Notre Dame did Arkansas this year. They won
on the road and beat them by forty. So explain
that to me. How in the world is the committee
putting Alabama over Notre Dame based off what the committee
chair said last night, their gritty, gutty win over entering
the house crazy Auburn.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
That was crazy. Again, I'm not a costotball guy, but
that was just an insane explanation to me because they're
not good and we're we're just putting all that on
the iron ball, like all tradition and how things used
to be.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
But if anybody watched that game, Auburn gifted that they
had probably seven or eight drops in that game. And
I don't play the conspiracy card often. I don't like
it at all. But will you guys tell me where
the committee chair resides?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I did.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
We talked about this. I brought this up and form
our audience the committee chair, Yes, I brought this. We
had the Baylor a d have to exit stage right.
And so the new committee chair, it's a member of
the Southeastern Conference.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
That's why I said a little while ago, Southeastern Conference.
Here's here's what's going to be really interesting. Reelized. Alabama
gonna get in. There's a possibility three loss.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Now this is where the debate gets really, really dicey.
So if you look at the end of the rankings
right now, you have Alabama at nine, Notre Dame at ten,
BYU at eleven, Miami at twelve. Notre Dame is the
last team in right there at ten. What does championship
weekend mean? Can you only move up can you move
(03:22):
back because the two teams on the other side of
Notre Dame they both play on Saturday. Alabama plays Georgia
in the SEC title game and BYU plays Texas Tech.
If you're a Notre Dame fan, you have to share
for Texas Tech right Well, then does that push BYU
behind Miami? Now do we have Miami next to Notre Dame?
So does head to head get brought back in after
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those two teams played in Miami not on neutral field
of course, but in Miami the first week of the season.
And then does Alabama drop if they lose to Georgia
or do we have the thought of teams that play
on championship weekend can't drop, they can only move up.
So it's yeah, if you're a Notre Dame fan right now,
just call we girl hair Indy because you're gonna need him.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
So do you think they get in right now today?
If you have to?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I would say bet any money, but gut feeling they
don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
In all seriousness, I think even if let's say the
favorites hold this.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Weekend, that's that's the best I was getting it.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, I would I think Miami gets next to them,
and then and then the committee finally does the head
to head from earlier in the season. I mean that,
I'll say, and I know people are quick to say, well,
it's Notre Dame's a brand they're gonna get in. I
mean last year, remember who was the first team out Alabama.
I mean, when you talk about brands, you wouldn't want
Alabama in the playoffs. So I know there's the the
(04:40):
the you know, the Notre Dame brand is gonna make
it because of the whole conspiracy theory.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
But I think that's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
And I'll go back to what I said at the start.
When you have two losses, you aren't bowltproof. Notre Dame
has made their own bed. But when you look at
any sort of computer ranking right now, and guy, even
if we don't want to nerd out over the computer rankings,
just go eye test on us Mark. Bring up the
national title odds right now, and tell me where Notre
(05:09):
Dame is on those odds. Whether you want to look
at computer rankings or whether you want to play the
eye test game, They're a top ten team. That's where
I'm at. Well, there's no debate of the eye tests.
There's no debat in the computer rankings. But even if
you don't want to say, hey, I don't show me
any nerdy numbers, just watch the games.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yeah, I mean which on that.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Remember last week we had Matt Weverron from Pigs and
he listed just out of the blue. He's like, yeah,
teams I wouldn't want ee you to face. I mean
he listened to Notre Dame like second or third on
that list.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, so I actually think they're fourth. By the way,
that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I was to listen to that.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
That leads me to modyxplo fourth.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
They're the last team in right now in the fourth
the national title.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I was going to say they're one of the teams
if they were to get in. And this didn't really
happen last year, but with the expanded playoff, you get
those ten, eleven, twelve teams in there, and you're like,
all right, nice season, great for you to be joined,
join the party, you know whatever.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I do think that they would be a dark horse
candidate to win it. That's how well they played as
of late.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I oddly probably feel this team has more potential to
make a run than I did last year's team. And
last's team got the home game right, so again they
have made their own bed. I want to I want
to be very clear.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
You got no, I'm I'm not just with you, but
others who are sitting here today, like I get, they
made their own bed. But then you have the committee
who can just I don't know, flip the bed.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I don't like like, I just don't get the explanation
last night.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
You have a better exersion than that.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
And tell me that Alabama beating interimad I don't care
iron Bull this Iron Bowl, that Notre Dame beat their
rival by double digits this year, like no, I thought
that was just a.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Pathetic.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
But on brand, I was a little bit surprised that
Alabama moved up in the rankings to your point after
eating a not a very good Auburn team. I know
it's the Iron Bow, but what's going to be really
interesting here is you're gonna have to get one. It
looks like you'll probably have one of the non power
for conference teams get in. Right now, Tulane's the highest
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ranked at number twenty. They seem to be the odds
on favorite to get in, but there are crazy things
that can happen this conference championship this weekend. If BYU,
for example, takes out number four Texas Tech, that could
jumple up everything.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Well, I think Tech Tech would still get in.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
It would really it would probably just knock Notre Dame out.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I mean that's it. I mean, I don't think that's
maybe peak chaos.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Oh, I'm talking about Notre Dame right now.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, I mean if you are a I've told Maddie
she can't watch Mormon Wives at all this week.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
She's banned.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
She's banned.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
How'd that go over?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
You should just seen the look then grab the pillow
and headed to the couch. I thought she's gonna tell
me go sleep on the snow.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Now, when those are when those episodes are over, do
you guys talk about them like? No, you discussed what
just happened and can you believe this and that? No, No,
she's on her own with that one.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Not at all.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
James, you want to let our audience know. On the
New Colts kicker.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, I'm actually looking at some of his numbers right now.
But yeah, Blake Groupie, former Saints kicker made all of
his point after attempts this year, So knock on wood
shouldn't be an issue for Sunday. However, he's eighteen of
twenty six on field goal attempts this year. Not that great.
It has had some issues inside of fifty Kevin, which
(08:28):
you pointed out. So your trading wards here one guy,
Michael Badge, I just don't think you can keep your
job after missing three point after attempts, and especially with
the effect of the point after attempt from last week's game.
The other ones, maybe you don't feel it as much.
I mean, hell, you missed two kicks over in Berlin
and you actually won the game, so people kind of
forget about that. That one stung last week. So he's
(08:51):
out blake groupy in people yelling at me, James. This
guy isn't any good either. Look, kickers are not going
to be that great at this point in the season.
Anybody left on the market, and honestly, there's not a
lot of great kickers for all thirty two teams as
it is. So you take what you got. We'll see
what he brings to the table and if he can
stabilize that kicking unit.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Were surprised to see Justin Tucker's name as a workout.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Not at all, not even a little bit I told
you where I stood in the first moments of this show.
I think that any professional sports team that actually they
have an ounce of character is a liar. They will
all sign someone who has unsavory characteristics on unsavory past
as long as they can perform and play well. The
(09:37):
number one reason that Justin Tucker doesn't have a job,
as I said earlier, is because he was terrible when
he last played football. Simple as that mousau a few
years ago with de Shaun Watson. Deshaun Watson got accused
of many terrible things. He got the most guaranteed money
in NFL history because the Browns at the time thought
he was a great quarterback. It's that simple.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, And I'll say what I said earlier. I think
the Colts have had legit interest in pursuing Deshan Watson
had he not been in the division, Houston obviously would
have had some reservation.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Freely at the point. Seriously, especially with the NFL, you
almost have to be sitting in a jail sale for
me to be like, they won't sign you if you
have any talent at all, and they might work out, like,
let me ask what your release date is? I mean
I'm dead serious on that. So yeah, I'm not going
to sit here and act like, oh my gosh, like
the Colts with their new female ownership, They're not going
to go down this route, nah man, Like this is
(10:28):
professional sports, is what they do. And I'm also not
going to sit here and say that anybody who's been
accused of anything shouldn't get a second too. That's not
for me to say. I don't work in sports pro sports,
but I do know that again, everything is relative to
how talented you are.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Just a reminder, this will be the first time in
Colts franchise history, this is Indianapolis or Baltimore, they will
have had three different dudes, assuming Blake Groupie will attempt
a field goal, will have three different guys kick field
goals for them in a season. We've seen two hot
Rod Michael Badgeley, we saw Chase McLoughlin with that invententary
you know, back with Vinnie he got a little banged
(11:06):
up there at times. Matt Stover, Martin Gramatica kicked for
them in a game. I am kind of reminded of
this when we've discussed Colts and kickers over the last
couple of years. I'm always confused and this goes back
probably three years ago, now, why they didn't just keep
Chase McLoughlin, Like, he's turned out to be a really
nice kicker for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and he was
(11:27):
this team's kicker when Veniti had some of the injury
issues in twenty nineteen. They kept hot Rod Rodrigo Blankenship
over in McLoughlin. They drafted him, didn't they uh no,
was undrafted.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Okay, definitely didn't.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
But I thought it was late.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I always felt like Chase McLoughlin was a guy that
just should have been the kicker. And then obviously they
make the big splash for Matt Gay and that doesn't
work out here. So again, Blake Group, he does have
a tie to Brian Mason, slush team's coordinator group. He
started his college career at Arkansas State, transferred to noted name,
kicked for them in twenty twenty two, and Brian Mason
was a special teams coordinator there for the Iris. So
(12:07):
that's a little bit of the connection on that end.
I did appreciate Brian Mason's candor yesterday, James.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Basically, we knew we got off that zoom call that
Michael Badger's getting waived.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, called he sent missed extra points and excusable, and
he was very He.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Said, we will explore every avenue possible to basically rectify
our kicking game.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Including Justin Tucker. You know, I mean that's you know,
I think if you read a little bit more into
that quote, that's what it means. So a five to
seven and fifty six pound kicker coming up on Sunday
for the Colts.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Just get it through the uprights, baby nodinks, no, missus,
Just get it through it. So all you're looking for
right there. Indiana Pacers back at home tonight. They'll be
at the Fieldhouse, taken on the Denver Nuggets, and they
won two of their last three. I know they didn't
have a great first quarter, as Rick Carlisle talked about
yesterday the other night, but now they're playing one of
the more elite teams in the NBA. What what do
(13:01):
you expect to see at this point in time, giving
that roster, in the state that they're in, James, what's
acceptable to see from them against a team like Denver tonight?
Speaker 3 (13:09):
What do you think that because differ is like your
that's your that's your area neck of the woods. You
know what they're gonna bring. So so what the what
are your new hometown team gonna do against them? Because
I think that they're gonna get I.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Think the like most elite teams in the NBA, they're
pretty good at not losing games they're supposed to win.
And I think it's gonna be a tall order for
the Indiana Pacers tonight, especially given where they're at right now,
and especially given the fact that who are you gonna
put up if if Jokic does play, who are you
gonna put up against it?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Well, Yokic is probable, so I would assume he does play. Now,
they are missing some notable guys. No Aaron Gordon, no
Christian Brown, and Jamal Murray's questionable. So you know, we've
seen this, I mean the Pacers. Let me be very clear,
the Pacers have been hurt far more often than their
opponent this year. The Pacers have also walked into a
lot of games this season where the opponent has some
(13:57):
notable guys in street Street close here.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
So yeah, and and the Nuggets aren't playing all that
great now late.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Last Kevin's point, they they have been banged up quite a.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Bit well, and they're banged up again tonight, So you
know there are these opportunities the Pacers have had, you
know Cleveland even the other night, where you know there
is an opportunity I think to you know, make this
a competitive game. In particularly, I mean Yokich has been
the fact that he's averaging a triple double and all
of it is eleven or higher, like none of it's
even in the ten category, is just another notch in
(14:33):
the Joker belt. But again, like I said earlier, he
has averaged more points against the Pacers than any other
team in his NBA career. So the meeting's only happened
twice a year, but he has feasted on the Blue
and Gold.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Well, you'll be able to hear that one. If you
can't watch it or go to it, you'll be able
to listen to it here at ninety three five, one
to seventy five the fans, six thirty, we'll have the
pre game for you, and then Mark Boyle will have
the play by play coming up just after seven o'clock.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
If you're looking for Jeff, he'll be in the nane
A jersey on the side.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I forgot about name was a fun guy to watch
Hilario right, the Brazilian.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
She looked like a dude that could beat some people up.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Here's one for you. Remember Kenneth Reid.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I wouldn't have thought of him more.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah, he used to just jump out the gym and
dunk on you. Great player to Stewart.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Now I see beefiting corner threes.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah, the pisces are a problem. There are a problem,
especially for the Pacers on.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
The tank front. Right now. The lottery odds just sort
of mind everybody because I don't think it's maybe crystal clear.
The odds aren't necessarily if you have the first pick,
you have the best odds, and the second pick it
goes down a little bit more, third pick it goes
down a little bit more. You know they have redone
this a little bit by no means I think is
(15:56):
it a perfect system? And frankly, I don't know what
the perfect system is to avoid tanking. But right now,
the Pacers have the third worst record in the NBA
this season, yet they still have the same odds to
get the number one overall pick as the team with
the first worst record in the league. So that's how
they do it. One two, three, I want to say
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it's fourteen percent odds are getting the number one pick,
and then if you have the fourth worst record, it's
like twelve percent, and if you have the fifth worst record,
it's like ten or nine percent. So you know, again,
these percentages are not massive. They don't have a huge
difference for and so I bring all that up to say,
you know, if you're a fan out there, it's a
quarter of the way through the season, and if you're
(16:38):
still walking that fine line of like, well, I don't
really want to root for losses, but boy, this draft
class looks kind of good next year. It's not like
you need the Pacers to be the worst team like
you do in the NFL. In the NFL purely comes
down to record. So you know, the draft Payton Manning,
you need Jake Plumber and Arizona Cardinals to go on
(16:59):
a two minute drive in the season to win that.
To draft Ange Luck, you need more he Showan Drew
to pick up a huge third and short late to
get the number one overall pick and draft Angel Luck.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
It's not the same in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Again, odds are the exact same for one, two, three
of the worst records, and it starts to change a
little bit once you get to kind of four or five, six,
et cetera, et cetera. But just a little bit on
the lottery front for our tanking audience out there.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Well, one of the teams in the race for that
lottery too, the Clippers, you see last night, they waved
goodbye late last night after two o'clock in the morning,
Eastering time to Chris Paul, see you on down the road.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, that whole situation is weird. He wasn't really playing.
He got sent home. I don't know if he was
disgruntled there. Maybe it's a financial move whatever the Clippers stink.
It is kind of sad to see Chris Paul go
out that way. I don't know if he'll play again
in the NBA, quite frankly, because I don't know if
he's like just got sent home or is the contract
no longer a thing, because I know he've done in
(17:56):
the past way they send you home and pay you,
but you're tat under contract still. So was our situation
a sad ending if this is the end for.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
They didn't in his future endeavors in their statement last night.
He'spent a great It was a great part of the
Clippers for a long time. We appreciated him, good luck.
He might be their best player in their history. Seriously,
so those the thought there he's going to join a contender.
I don't know, because I remember a couple of years ago.
(18:25):
I want to say, Houston sent John wallhome, but he
was under contract still, so he couldn't really sign anywhere else.
They just said, hey, we just don't want to give
you the we don't want to use a roster spot
on you. We'll just pay you the money type of thing.
And if that's the case for Chris Paul, then he
wouldn't be able to go anywhere else.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I just don't know. I guess we'll get more information
on it. A very bizarre and also to do it
in the middle of the night, it's crazy too. I mean,
we've seen these movies made all the time at regular
times of the day. This would be like if the
Bucks did that to Damian Lillard when they waved and
stretched them and to get Mileserta. At least they did
during business hours. That was kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
We did have a question about Spencer Schrader colts Kicker
his status. That was a pretty severe It was broken
leg great and.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
A toorn ACL Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
No?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I believe it was ACL and mcl. His leg wasn't broken,
it was a couple of different ligaments in the knee.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Though.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
He's out for the season, so yeah, he won't be
kicking again until next year, well into next year.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I mean, tough, tough, tough stot. But anyway, if you
want some NBA action, could be a pretty entertaining basketball game,
depending on all who shows out and plays tonight. The
Pacers at the field House taken on the Denver. I'm
going to tell you more about that coming up in
a few minutes. But coming up next Stephen Holder covers
the Indianapolis COLTSESPN dot com. He'll stop by next on
ninety three five seven. Let's check in with our next guest,
(19:43):
who joins us this morning, up bright and early in
twenty degree weather. I don't know if you're sitting in
a car right now, carliner or not, Stephen Holder, but
thanks for joining us on the pay Less Liquors hotline.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Ain't outside here al right, he got heat.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
You see the sympathy you're getting that big guy.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
I'm trying to going outside as long as possible.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
The man is doing this from the bus stop.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
He ain't outside.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Well, no I'm not in the car. That will be soon,
but I'm going to have a remote start. It is
the best event ever for someone from Florida, let me
tell you.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
From someone from anywhere, I'll tell you that as well.
So I'll ask you the same question. What would your
your optimism level have been a month ago for the
Colts as opposed to what it is now.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
A month ago. I had him winning twelve games a
month ago, I mean, and I think that was like
a very realistic prediction. You know, Look, they might still,
They're not that far away from winning ten or eleven
now or even But I just think the trajectory is
such that it makes it hard to be optimistic. And
(20:54):
it's not as if we're just being negative. I think
that's the thing to kind of highlight, not just being
negative for the sake of being negative. I mean, I
can certainly do that, like, believe me, I'm very accomplished
at that, But that's not what this is. I mean,
I think we're we're just watching and reacting to what
we are seeing, and the injuries are such that it
(21:15):
does complicate things for them. But I believe the Savarius
Wards who said this. They do have everything in front
of them. They have to do the job, but they
still have everything that they wanted to accomplish. They still
can technically, but again, do we think they'll actually get there?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Stephen, were you surprised to see Justin Tucker's name on
the Colts trial list yesterday?
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Not terribly surprised. I mean, I think we know, just
based on how Michael Badgeley performs that the pickings are slim.
That's just what it is. You know, you get the week,
what do we week fourteen? And any position when you're
talking about the free agents that are available, I mean,
(22:04):
you're scraping pretty far down in the barrel at that point.
And that's just what it is. And I just think
the Colts didn't have a lot to choose from. It
doesn't mean they were really inclined to sign him. I
think the other thing is you want some competition in
a workout, right, and so he is certainly somebody who
(22:24):
could provide that. I don't know how close they came
to signing him. I think the assessment was that he
still has something in the tank, because I know a
lot of people have questioned that me included they felt
like there was something there, but I just don't know
if the juice is worth the squeeze. Personally, I'm not
(22:46):
making a judgment on what he did or didn't do,
because who the hell knows. But the guy was suspended
for ten games after an NFL investigation. They found some reason.
You would think to do that. Do you really need
that headache among all the other things you're dealing with,
would be my response to that.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Steven Holder is joining us now on the Payless Liquors
hot line, moving forward now, going into a place that
has not been kind to this team for the last
decade twenty fourteen, so last time they were able to
get a win in Jacksonville, what makes you make the
case for it'll be different this time because the Colts.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Well, I think that's thing to do. I can't. I
don't know if I can. I will say this. The
case is they're desperate. And I remember earlier this year
I was talking to Zire Franklin and I said to him, like,
you know this, You've had teams that have kind of
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gotten off some good starts before in his time here,
and I think it was Leaven like twenty nineteen, for example,
he brought up but I think they were five and
two that year, and you know, so we were using
that as an example. I'm like, well, what's going to
be different this time because you didn't finish the job
any of those other times. And he's like, you know what,
last year's team I wouldn't have had I wouldn't have
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had a lot of faith that we would finish the job.
He says, I feel like this team is different. And
he just said, there's just a different mentality this year. Now,
I think, given what's happened in the last four weeks,
you know, there's a lot of room to question what
he said in that conversation, right, but here's a chance
to prove it. Go prove it, Okay, tell us, show
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us you're different. This is your chance if they do this.
That they exercised one demon right in winning in week one,
which let's not underestimate what sort of an eight hundred
pound gorilla that was. This is the other one, So
go show us, and this would be the win of
all wins. To win in Jacksonville under the circumstances, I mean,
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that would be huge.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Let's see Steven looking at the offense. I know a
lot of the talk has been about Daniel Jones and
his fractured fibula, and he's playing through it. I happen
to believe he's not been the number one problem for
this offense. But when you look at the offense as
a whole, why do you think we've seen such a
drop off from the juggernaut they were to the first
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eight games of the year. I think it was at
like maybe thirty two thirty three points a game to
the last four being around I believe like twenty points
a game.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
I mean, I think it's a combination of a lot
of things. The execution overall needs to be better. The
wide receivers didn't have a good game on Sunday against Houston.
That is unquestionable. Josh Downs, Michael Pittman could have been better.
Alex Paris I think is probably holding up his end
of the bargain, But I think overall they needed to
be better. I think the offensive line, Look, those were
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some tough matchups, but your censor cannot get bull rushed
into the quarterback by a defensive end, which literally happened.
And it's just one example. Okay, that's just one example
of them just getting just killed in individual matchups that
that can't happen. The blitzes are a problem. Again. Houston
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doesn't blitz that much. It appears they blitzed a lot
more in that game. And you know why because they
have a compromised quarterback. And I think I will take
a little bit of disagreement there. I will say this.
I think Daniel Jones is doing a great job given
all of the available evidence and the situation that he
is in. That is a it's got to be a
painful injury, okay, but he is compromised. He is, it
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is one true and that is affecting the play calling.
He got outside of the pocket one time on Sunday.
That is not his game. Part of his game and
part of the reason he's here is because he can move,
and right now he cannot. So you have shame. Ike
and Jim Bob Couter are working with an abbreviated playbook
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and that's having an effect, even on Jonathan Taylor because
there's no threat in the RPO. Not that they were
running quarterback runs anyway, but you at least have to
account for him getting outside, throwing on the run, all
of those things. It makes it easier for the defense,
and I think that is compromising them right now, there
is no question about it. And the defenses are reacting
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with a lot of pressure and they have to end
up with quick throws and those are not very productive.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
You know, it's crazy, Stephen. I was looking at the
game from last week, and if I'm not mistaken, I
believe Dale Jones, who a couple weeks ago had the
crazy nineteen yard run on third and twenty one in
Berlin to help save that game and win that game
in overtime. Sunday's game, the guy I believe had one
carry technically for one yard, and I believe it's when
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he fumbled the snap and he dove want it to
get it back to let you know right there and
kind of piggybacks off what you were saying about how
different he looks compared to how he was a month ago,
and how the Colts keeps saying there's no restrictions.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Yeah, there are, yeah, And I think it's not about
you know, how he looks, That's not really the issue.
I mean, he's he's making do with what he has
and doing a great job under the circumstances. I think
both things can be true, right. I remember tweeting this
the other day about some of this topic, and some
of the responses took offense, and I said, well, I mean,
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how are you going to bash this guy? He's got
a broken leg I know that's the point. He got
a broken freaking legs and he cannot play the same
way like that's the point. Look, he given all the
pressure they have faced in the last couple of weeks,
if he were healthy, how do you think he would
have reacted to that pressure much differently? Right, he would
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have escaped the pocket a lot more. He's not trying
to escape the pocket. He's just trying to find anybody,
somebody he can throw the ball to, whether it's complete
or not, just so he doesn't take the sack. That's
what he's doing right now. And in some cases he's
just throwing a ball in the dirt, which is just
not Daniel Jones. That's really not what he's trying to
do out there. So there's no question if you look
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at it, in his totality, he is compromised. But I
don't have an alternative for them because this is what
they got. They don't have, They don't have another option.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Let's stick there for a second, and I don't want.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
To hear about Riley Leonard and no offense, KD.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Not that you trust me, none, none, none taken as
you know full well, you're such a hater. Stephen Holder, ESPN.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
I love Riley Leonard. I love him as the Scout
team quarterback.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Respective run.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
There was a reason why he was puking after the
opening drive of the Ohio State National title game that
you can't duplicate that in the NFL. Stephen Holding from
ESPN with the year payless Slickers hotline, I guess, kind
of sticking to that general area, I'll throw a little
hypothetical at you. Better chance we see Sauce Gardner play
in the month of December or Anton.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
In the month of the season.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
I think Sauce Gardner, I just think that there's just
been no momentum toward getting Anthony Richardson back out there,
and I guess I'm not surprised. I mean, there was
always kind of a question about whether he would come back.
I think we never got a straight answer on whether
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they expected him back. I mean, I think there was
hope that they would get him back, but there was
really no definitive answer when when we asked that, which
has been asked many times, right, there has been I
thought a very specific answer about Sauce. I mean, you know,
we'll see it's not written in blood. But but I
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do think they seem pretty confident about him and the
Forest Buckner, for example. I'm interested to see how close
the Forest Buckner is when we get to practice today,
Like is he is he in the mix?
Speaker 3 (30:58):
You know, I don't still one more game out?
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Ye, one more week? Right, one more week? But like
you know, I saw him. I saw him in Kansas City.
He was in the locker room in good spirits. He said,
like he's getting close. You know. He seemed really optimistic then.
And I don't know. We'll see, but my point is,
I can I can show you very specific feedback we've
gotten on him, Sauce, Gardner, et cetera. We have not
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gotten that on Anthony Richardson. And I just think that
situation is so delicate when you're talking about a facial
injury of the nature that he had, that I don't
know if it's worth it, if there's any risk there,
you know, it's just not worth it.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I think, Yeah, I think you laid that out pretty
much in the same boat that I would. I will
note and feel free to if you guys saw otherwise
in Kansas City. I thought Sunday was the first time
we've seen Richardson on the sidelines since the injury. Is
that correct? Did you guys se him in Kansas City?
Speaker 5 (31:50):
I did not see him in Kansas City. I don't
know that he's traveled with them at all. So that's
a good point. You know, we're starting to see him
around the facility morning and again.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I'm just bringing that up. I'm not saying he's gotten
out of practice. I'm just simply saying from a in person,
we have we have seen him, frankly more than we
saw him the first whatever two three weeks after the injury.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
I would say. I think here's why. I think that's
an important thing to mention though, because for the first
I don't know, several weeks, we never even saw him. Okay,
I mean he was like at home to a to
a large degree, I think because as I as I did,
I mean I didn't do a lot, but as they
did a little bit of research on orbital fractures, I mean,
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the diagnosis and the recommendations, I should say, the medical
recommendations are like, don't even like lift a heavy box, literally,
you know, because any sort of strenuous effort can can
have an effect on the injury.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Don't sneeze, I mean, isn't that one.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Of those Yeah, don't sneeze. Yes, cough, don't cough too hard.
That's literally part of the actual medical recommendations when you
have an orbital fracture. So I want people to understand
just how severe in a situation that is. Yeah, I
don't think. I don't think we'll see him again.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Man.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
From pregame collisions to rubber bands breaking off in a
weight room. Man, I hope that's not the kind of
stuff that defines this could season when it's all said and.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Done, Steven, I mean, Lizen, what a year though? Think
about it, right, I mean that you've got the Shavarius
Ward in his situation. You've got Daniel Jones is rolling
having a Peyton Manning like season statistically, and then he
has a broken fibuler because how I don't know. I mean,
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it's just one thing after another. Deforce Buckner's hurt. You
trade for Sauce Gardner two games in he does this.
I mean they haven't gotten any breaks. I will give
them that. They're not the only team with injuries. That
is very clear. Joe Burrow and the Bengals could tell
you all about. But I mean for all of that
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to happen this year, of all years, it hurts, There's
no question about it.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Steven, stay warm, have a good day. We'll talk to
you again soon. I know these two guys will see
a little bit later on today, but I'll run into
you in a press box somewhere.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
All right, I'm starting to remote start right now.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Good morning. We're here to keep you as warm as
we can throughout the day here, and if nothing else,
maybe we'll be your remote start, Kevin. We'll get you
all warm and fuzzy for a great weekend of sports
coming up. On Saturday. You've got, of course, Louisville and
Indiana basketball over at the field House, and then later
on the night Big Ten Conference Championship football game between
Ohio State and the Indiana, the number one and two
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ranked teams in America. Right now, I'm here to tell
us more about how that all came together. The senior
director of Marketing and Communications for the Indiana Sports Cort
Dan Gliat joining us here on the pay Less Liquors Hotline.
Good morning, Dan, it sounds like you guys are going
to be busy all week long.
Speaker 6 (34:57):
Good morning, Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
It is a busy week in a long line of
busy weeks we have had here.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
At the sports scene in Indianapolis. But we're excited for it.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Dan, Appreciate you, boy, but I'm choked up just thinking
about it. Appreciate you joining us. Okay, let let's get
fans set for Saturday. Obviously, we've got two o'clock over
Game Bridge, as Jeff said, and then I forget the
exact kick time. I want to say eight o'clock over
at Lucas Oil in between games. Anything from a fan
fest standpoint, I think a convention center usually has some
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activation stuff, So downtown wise, what could fans be looking for.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Yeah, we're super excited to host a big Camp Big
ten fan fest presented by Doctor Pepper once again inside
the Indiana Convention Center.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
It's going to be so much fun there.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
If you've been downtown for the Big ten fan fests,
you've seen this, but it's brand new this year. Once again,
we're gonna have tons of activations inside there.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
If you want to run the forty yard dash, if you.
Speaker 6 (35:53):
Want to play some video games, do you want to
do some diving catches.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
If you want to kick some field goals. This is
the place to be to get excited.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
You know, if you're going to that IU Louisville game,
come right over after that. If you're just getting ready
for the big game. If you've got a ticket in there.
If you do have a ticket to the Big Ten
Football Championship game, you have free.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Access into fantests.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
You actually got to send a separate ticket for that.
But if you don't have a ticket into the game,
tickets started just sixteen dollars, ten dollars for kids into
and under his free so really affordable, spans, friendly atmosphere.
It's going to be so much fun inside the Convention Center.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Dan, I don't remember last time a sporting event I've
been asked more about tickets to the actual game here
in our city than Saturday nights. I am curious, you know,
do you know like how tickets get divided up? You
know how many I guess did Indiana get, how many
of Ohio State get? How does that work for the
Big Ten championship.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
You know, it's a little bit different every single year,
and the Big Ten is the ones that handle those.
I know, like the teams get a certain amount each year,
and how those are divided up, I'm not exactly sure,
but like I said, this might be the hottest ticking
in town right now for this game. I mean, it's
one versus two. It's IU. Ohio State hasn't been here
in a couple of years. They finally got over that
hump against Michigan in one of the big games on Saturday.
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So we're just really excited to have just such a
huge crowd. We're excited for the town to literally be
painted red. I know that's a metaphors sometimes, but I
expect so much red downtown on Saturday between the IU
and Louisville basketball game and then Ohio State IU for
the football game.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
We're doing anything with the streets. We're going to rename
all the streets like Signetti Way or Mendoza Boulevard or
anything like that this weekend.
Speaker 6 (37:40):
I jove downtown today and I saw a couple of
the signs are up right now, the streets signs are up.
I'm looking over at Lukasho stadium and the signage is
going up right now on the north side of the stadium,
so all that street signage, all that stuff that we're
used to seeing the airport. I just want to shout
out our friends at the airport for everyone that's going
to be flying in for this game, and hopefully everyone
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can do it safely with the weather. But they've had
signage up for the last couple of weeks right now
and things like that, so the city is going to
be decked out ready for this game.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
So Dan as someone who is so envious of what's
going to happen this week, and I have to travel
for the Coles game, and if you can petition the
league to have the Cold slip their road game in
Jacksonville to a home game so I could be here
Saturday for all the festivities by all means, you know,
do that for me. But in all seriousness, when you're
looking at like logistically what you all have to do
and plan for, how much planning, pre planning goes into
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this and how much I don't know if it's post
playing is the right word, but how much does it
shift when you know you're going to get an influx
of IU fans.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
I mean, the Big Ten has been such great partners,
and we love to say here in Indianapolis that we
are been the only ones that ever host this game.
The Big Ten Football Championship Game has only ever been
hosted in Lucas Oil Stadium, and I think it's because
we worked so hard on that pre planning process. I mean,
we've been talking with the Big Ten four months about
all the different iterations and how we want to.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Make this game better.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
We don't just rest on our laurels, even though we've
hosted this game for a long time, for fifteen years now,
we really try to make it better for the student athletes,
for the coaches, for the fans every single year. So
that planning happens months in advance, and we've been looking
at the standings just like every other fan, and we've
been looking at a possible IU games here, and we've
been thinking about how to make this better, how to
make this for fans coming in. We've also been thinking
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about the Ohio State fans. Is the first time that
they've possibly been here for five years, so they haven't
been here for a while, so how do we.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Make this experience for them better?
Speaker 6 (39:34):
And then we'll talk about that after the game, as
well as how do we do it next year in
the year after to continue to make this the best experience.
We put ourselves out there as the best host city.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
In the country. This is one of those marquee.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
Weekends every single year you can market down that Indianapolis
is hosting it and we want to put on the
best experience possible for everyone involved.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Well, you guys always put on a great experience. There's
so much great stuff that's been here in the last
several years, dating all the way back to the Super
Bowl and All Star our Games and Championship Games, National Championship,
you name it, Final Fours, it's what we do here.
Of all those things, I still think one of the
most fun things we've done, my wife and I went
to the Olympic Trials two years ago when you put
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a pool at Lucas Oil Stadium. I know we've got
more stuff like that coming up. What are some of
the other big events on the horizon that we need
to keep on our radar.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
Yeah, in a couple of weeks, you know, I know
some of the Boilermaker fans probably aren't loving all the Iutah,
but in two weeks we were hosting the Indie Classic
presented by Bush's Chili Beans over at Gambridge Fieldhouse. That's
a college basketball doubleheader that's Purdue versus Auburn and then
Butler versus Northwestern. That's in a couple of saturdays over
at Gambridge. And then we are constantly working on the
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Men's Final Four coming here in the spring. We're also
hosting a Big Ten Women's basketball Championship that'll be in March.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
But we're really.
Speaker 6 (40:50):
Focused on a lot of basketball events coming up here.
And there's no better state than city to host college
basketball in Indiana and Indianapolis.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Who are really looking forward to that.
Speaker 6 (41:00):
But all our eyes once we get through this big
weekend are going to be focused on college basketball and
we're really excited about it.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Sounds good. Thanks for joining us this morning, Dan, We
appreciate that. Good luck this weekend, and let's see what happens. Man,
It's gonna be a lot of fun one and two
at the Big Ten Tournament or Big Ten Football Championship.
I can't wait.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
Hey, appreciate the time, guys. Love what you guys do.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
Keep it up.
You were listening to the best of the Fan Morning
Show on ninety three five and one oh seven five
The Fan. Good Morning. Welcome in to the Fan Morning
Show along with Kevin Bowen, James Boyd, Mark Dyke, and
I'm Jeff Rickard. And we've been talking a little bit
this morning about the brand new college football playoff rankings
and this is the next to last ranking before the
college conference championships are going to be played throughout the
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next six seven days or so. And Kevin Bowen, I
know you are not a fan right now. Notre Dame
is in. They were passed up a little bit by Alabama,
but they are in at this point in time. But
you're not a big fan of not only how this
thing gets decided, but the folks who make up the committee.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I you let me start here, because when you call
yourself a Notre Dame fan, people hate you. So people
hate me enough for that. So let me clarify. When
you lose two games, you're not bowltproof. You guys saw
my dejection the Monday after the Texas A and M
loss earlier this year.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It took you six weeks to get out of that, right.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I knew full well that even if you did rattle
off ten in a row by an average of thirty points,
which Notre Dame has done. Here, we are debating them
as the final team in and they deserve it. You
scheduled Miami and Texas A and M. You need to
beat one of those two if you want to sit
here on December third and kick your feet up when
it comes to these playoff rankings. Having said that, the
fact that the Committee last night explained to us that
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Alabama jumped Notre Dame because they beat a one SEC
win Auburn team by seven points on Saturday, as Notre
Dame beat a very similar opponent by thirty on the
road made zero sense to me whatsoever. The one win
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that Auburn has in the SEC is over Arkansas. You
know what Notre Dame did Arkansas this year. They won
on the road and beat them by forty. So explain
that to me. How in the world is the committee
putting Alabama over Notre Dame based off what the committee
chair said last night, their gritty, gutty win over entering
the house crazy Auburn.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
That was crazy. Again, I'm not a costotball guy, but
that was just an insane explanation to me because they're
not good and we're we're just putting all that on
the iron ball, like all tradition and how things used
to be.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
But if anybody watched that game, Auburn gifted that they
had probably seven or eight drops in that game. And
I don't play the conspiracy card often. I don't like
it at all. But will you guys tell me where
the committee chair resides?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I did.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
We talked about this. I brought this up and form
our audience the committee chair, Yes, I brought this. We
had the Baylor a d have to exit stage right.
And so the new committee chair, it's a member of
the Southeastern Conference.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
That's why I said a little while ago, Southeastern Conference.
Here's here's what's going to be really interesting. Reelized. Alabama
gonna get in. There's a possibility three loss.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Now this is where the debate gets really, really dicey.
So if you look at the end of the rankings
right now, you have Alabama at nine, Notre Dame at ten,
BYU at eleven, Miami at twelve. Notre Dame is the
last team in right there at ten. What does championship
weekend mean? Can you only move up can you move
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back because the two teams on the other side of
Notre Dame they both play on Saturday. Alabama plays Georgia
in the SEC title game and BYU plays Texas Tech.
If you're a Notre Dame fan, you have to share
for Texas Tech right Well, then does that push BYU
behind Miami? Now do we have Miami next to Notre Dame?
So does head to head get brought back in after
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those two teams played in Miami not on neutral field
of course, but in Miami the first week of the season.
And then does Alabama drop if they lose to Georgia
or do we have the thought of teams that play
on championship weekend can't drop, they can only move up.
So it's yeah, if you're a Notre Dame fan right now,
just call we girl hair Indy because you're gonna need him.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
So do you think they get in right now today?
If you have to?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I would say bet any money, but gut feeling they
don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
In all seriousness, I think even if let's say the
favorites hold this.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Weekend, that's that's the best I was getting it.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, I would I think Miami gets next to them,
and then and then the committee finally does the head
to head from earlier in the season. I mean that,
I'll say, and I know people are quick to say, well,
it's Notre Dame's a brand they're gonna get in. I
mean last year, remember who was the first team out Alabama.
I mean, when you talk about brands, you wouldn't want
Alabama in the playoffs. So I know there's the the
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the you know, the Notre Dame brand is gonna make
it because of the whole conspiracy theory.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
But I think that's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
And I'll go back to what I said at the start.
When you have two losses, you aren't bowltproof. Notre Dame
has made their own bed. But when you look at
any sort of computer ranking right now, and guy, even
if we don't want to nerd out over the computer rankings,
just go eye test on us Mark. Bring up the
national title odds right now, and tell me where Notre
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Dame is on those odds. Whether you want to look
at computer rankings or whether you want to play the
eye test game, They're a top ten team. That's where
I'm at. Well, there's no debate of the eye tests.
There's no debat in the computer rankings. But even if
you don't want to say, hey, I don't show me
any nerdy numbers, just watch the games.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yeah, I mean which on that.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Remember last week we had Matt Weverron from Pigs and
he listed just out of the blue. He's like, yeah,
teams I wouldn't want ee you to face. I mean
he listened to Notre Dame like second or third on
that list.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, so I actually think they're fourth. By the way,
that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I was to listen to that.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
That leads me to modyxplo fourth.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
They're the last team in right now in the fourth
the national title.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I was going to say they're one of the teams
if they were to get in. And this didn't really
happen last year, but with the expanded playoff, you get
those ten, eleven, twelve teams in there, and you're like,
all right, nice season, great for you to be joined,
join the party, you know whatever.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I do think that they would be a dark horse
candidate to win it. That's how well they played as
of late.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I oddly probably feel this team has more potential to
make a run than I did last year's team. And
last's team got the home game right, so again they
have made their own bed. I want to I want
to be very clear.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
You got no, I'm I'm not just with you, but
others who are sitting here today, like I get, they
made their own bed. But then you have the committee
who can just I don't know, flip the bed.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I don't like like, I just don't get the explanation
last night.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
You have a better exersion than that.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
And tell me that Alabama beating interimad I don't care
iron Bull this Iron Bowl, that Notre Dame beat their
rival by double digits this year, like no, I thought
that was just a.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Pathetic.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
But on brand, I was a little bit surprised that
Alabama moved up in the rankings to your point after
eating a not a very good Auburn team. I know
it's the Iron Bow, but what's going to be really
interesting here is you're gonna have to get one. It
looks like you'll probably have one of the non power
for conference teams get in. Right now, Tulane's the highest
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ranked at number twenty. They seem to be the odds
on favorite to get in, but there are crazy things
that can happen this conference championship this weekend. If BYU,
for example, takes out number four Texas Tech, that could
jumple up everything.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Well, I think Tech Tech would still get in.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
It would really it would probably just knock Notre Dame out.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I mean that's it. I mean, I don't think that's
maybe peak chaos.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Oh, I'm talking about Notre Dame right now.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, I mean if you are a I've told Maddie
she can't watch Mormon Wives at all this week.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
She's banned.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
She's banned.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
How'd that go over?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
You should just seen the look then grab the pillow
and headed to the couch. I thought she's gonna tell
me go sleep on the snow.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Now, when those are when those episodes are over, do
you guys talk about them like? No, you discussed what
just happened and can you believe this and that? No, No,
she's on her own with that one.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Not at all.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
James, you want to let our audience know. On the
New Colts kicker.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, I'm actually looking at some of his numbers right now.
But yeah, Blake Groupie, former Saints kicker made all of
his point after attempts this year, So knock on wood
shouldn't be an issue for Sunday. However, he's eighteen of
twenty six on field goal attempts this year. Not that great.
It has had some issues inside of fifty Kevin, which
(08:28):
you pointed out. So your trading wards here one guy,
Michael Badge, I just don't think you can keep your
job after missing three point after attempts, and especially with
the effect of the point after attempt from last week's game.
The other ones, maybe you don't feel it as much.
I mean, hell, you missed two kicks over in Berlin
and you actually won the game, so people kind of
forget about that. That one stung last week. So he's
(08:51):
out blake groupy in people yelling at me, James. This
guy isn't any good either. Look, kickers are not going
to be that great at this point in the season.
Anybody left on the market, and honestly, there's not a
lot of great kickers for all thirty two teams as
it is. So you take what you got. We'll see
what he brings to the table and if he can
stabilize that kicking unit.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Were surprised to see Justin Tucker's name as a workout.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Not at all, not even a little bit I told
you where I stood in the first moments of this show.
I think that any professional sports team that actually they
have an ounce of character is a liar. They will
all sign someone who has unsavory characteristics on unsavory past
as long as they can perform and play well. The
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number one reason that Justin Tucker doesn't have a job,
as I said earlier, is because he was terrible when
he last played football. Simple as that mousau a few
years ago with de Shaun Watson. Deshaun Watson got accused
of many terrible things. He got the most guaranteed money
in NFL history because the Browns at the time thought
he was a great quarterback. It's that simple.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, And I'll say what I said earlier. I think
the Colts have had legit interest in pursuing Deshan Watson
had he not been in the division, Houston obviously would
have had some reservation.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Freely at the point. Seriously, especially with the NFL, you
almost have to be sitting in a jail sale for
me to be like, they won't sign you if you
have any talent at all, and they might work out, like,
let me ask what your release date is? I mean
I'm dead serious on that. So yeah, I'm not going
to sit here and act like, oh my gosh, like
the Colts with their new female ownership, They're not going
to go down this route, nah man, Like this is
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professional sports, is what they do. And I'm also not
going to sit here and say that anybody who's been
accused of anything shouldn't get a second too. That's not
for me to say. I don't work in sports pro sports,
but I do know that again, everything is relative to
how talented you are.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Just a reminder, this will be the first time in
Colts franchise history, this is Indianapolis or Baltimore, they will
have had three different dudes, assuming Blake Groupie will attempt
a field goal, will have three different guys kick field
goals for them in a season. We've seen two hot
Rod Michael Badgeley, we saw Chase McLoughlin with that invententary
you know, back with Vinnie he got a little banged
(11:06):
up there at times. Matt Stover, Martin Gramatica kicked for
them in a game. I am kind of reminded of
this when we've discussed Colts and kickers over the last
couple of years. I'm always confused and this goes back
probably three years ago, now, why they didn't just keep
Chase McLoughlin, Like, he's turned out to be a really
nice kicker for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and he was
(11:27):
this team's kicker when Veniti had some of the injury
issues in twenty nineteen. They kept hot Rod Rodrigo Blankenship
over in McLoughlin. They drafted him, didn't they uh no,
was undrafted.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Okay, definitely didn't.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
But I thought it was late.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I always felt like Chase McLoughlin was a guy that
just should have been the kicker. And then obviously they
make the big splash for Matt Gay and that doesn't
work out here. So again, Blake Group, he does have
a tie to Brian Mason, slush team's coordinator group. He
started his college career at Arkansas State, transferred to noted name,
kicked for them in twenty twenty two, and Brian Mason
was a special teams coordinator there for the Iris. So
(12:07):
that's a little bit of the connection on that end.
I did appreciate Brian Mason's candor yesterday, James.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Basically, we knew we got off that zoom call that
Michael Badger's getting waived.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, called he sent missed extra points and excusable, and
he was very He.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Said, we will explore every avenue possible to basically rectify
our kicking game.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Including Justin Tucker. You know, I mean that's you know,
I think if you read a little bit more into
that quote, that's what it means. So a five to
seven and fifty six pound kicker coming up on Sunday
for the Colts.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Just get it through the uprights, baby nodinks, no, missus,
Just get it through it. So all you're looking for
right there. Indiana Pacers back at home tonight. They'll be
at the Fieldhouse, taken on the Denver Nuggets, and they
won two of their last three. I know they didn't
have a great first quarter, as Rick Carlisle talked about
yesterday the other night, but now they're playing one of
the more elite teams in the NBA. What what do
(13:01):
you expect to see at this point in time, giving
that roster, in the state that they're in, James, what's
acceptable to see from them against a team like Denver tonight?
Speaker 3 (13:09):
What do you think that because differ is like your
that's your that's your area neck of the woods. You
know what they're gonna bring. So so what the what
are your new hometown team gonna do against them? Because
I think that they're gonna get I.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Think the like most elite teams in the NBA, they're
pretty good at not losing games they're supposed to win.
And I think it's gonna be a tall order for
the Indiana Pacers tonight, especially given where they're at right now,
and especially given the fact that who are you gonna
put up if if Jokic does play, who are you
gonna put up against it?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Well, Yokic is probable, so I would assume he does play. Now,
they are missing some notable guys. No Aaron Gordon, no
Christian Brown, and Jamal Murray's questionable. So you know, we've
seen this, I mean the Pacers. Let me be very clear,
the Pacers have been hurt far more often than their
opponent this year. The Pacers have also walked into a
lot of games this season where the opponent has some
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notable guys in street Street close here.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
So yeah, and and the Nuggets aren't playing all that
great now late.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Last Kevin's point, they they have been banged up quite a.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Bit well, and they're banged up again tonight, So you
know there are these opportunities the Pacers have had, you
know Cleveland even the other night, where you know there
is an opportunity I think to you know, make this
a competitive game. In particularly, I mean Yokich has been
the fact that he's averaging a triple double and all
of it is eleven or higher, like none of it's
even in the ten category, is just another notch in
(14:33):
the Joker belt. But again, like I said earlier, he
has averaged more points against the Pacers than any other
team in his NBA career. So the meeting's only happened
twice a year, but he has feasted on the Blue
and Gold.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Well, you'll be able to hear that one. If you
can't watch it or go to it, you'll be able
to listen to it here at ninety three five, one
to seventy five the fans, six thirty, we'll have the
pre game for you, and then Mark Boyle will have
the play by play coming up just after seven o'clock.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
If you're looking for Jeff, he'll be in the nane
A jersey on the side.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I forgot about name was a fun guy to watch
Hilario right, the Brazilian.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
She looked like a dude that could beat some people up.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Here's one for you. Remember Kenneth Reid.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I wouldn't have thought of him more.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah, he used to just jump out the gym and
dunk on you. Great player to Stewart.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Now I see beefiting corner threes.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah, the pisces are a problem. There are a problem,
especially for the Pacers on.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
The tank front. Right now. The lottery odds just sort
of mind everybody because I don't think it's maybe crystal clear.
The odds aren't necessarily if you have the first pick,
you have the best odds, and the second pick it
goes down a little bit more, third pick it goes
down a little bit more. You know they have redone
this a little bit by no means I think is
(15:56):
it a perfect system? And frankly, I don't know what
the perfect system is to avoid tanking. But right now,
the Pacers have the third worst record in the NBA
this season, yet they still have the same odds to
get the number one overall pick as the team with
the first worst record in the league. So that's how
they do it. One two, three, I want to say
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it's fourteen percent odds are getting the number one pick,
and then if you have the fourth worst record, it's
like twelve percent, and if you have the fifth worst record,
it's like ten or nine percent. So you know, again,
these percentages are not massive. They don't have a huge
difference for and so I bring all that up to say,
you know, if you're a fan out there, it's a
quarter of the way through the season, and if you're
(16:38):
still walking that fine line of like, well, I don't
really want to root for losses, but boy, this draft
class looks kind of good next year. It's not like
you need the Pacers to be the worst team like
you do in the NFL. In the NFL purely comes
down to record. So you know, the draft Payton Manning,
you need Jake Plumber and Arizona Cardinals to go on
(16:59):
a two minute drive in the season to win that.
To draft Ange Luck, you need more he Showan Drew
to pick up a huge third and short late to
get the number one overall pick and draft Angel Luck.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
It's not the same in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Again, odds are the exact same for one, two, three
of the worst records, and it starts to change a
little bit once you get to kind of four or five, six,
et cetera, et cetera. But just a little bit on
the lottery front for our tanking audience out there.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Well, one of the teams in the race for that
lottery too, the Clippers, you see last night, they waved
goodbye late last night after two o'clock in the morning,
Eastering time to Chris Paul, see you on down the road.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, that whole situation is weird. He wasn't really playing.
He got sent home. I don't know if he was
disgruntled there. Maybe it's a financial move whatever the Clippers stink.
It is kind of sad to see Chris Paul go
out that way. I don't know if he'll play again
in the NBA, quite frankly, because I don't know if
he's like just got sent home or is the contract
no longer a thing, because I know he've done in
(17:56):
the past way they send you home and pay you,
but you're tat under contract still. So was our situation
a sad ending if this is the end for.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
They didn't in his future endeavors in their statement last night.
He'spent a great It was a great part of the
Clippers for a long time. We appreciated him, good luck.
He might be their best player in their history. Seriously,
so those the thought there he's going to join a contender.
I don't know, because I remember a couple of years ago.
(18:25):
I want to say, Houston sent John wallhome, but he
was under contract still, so he couldn't really sign anywhere else.
They just said, hey, we just don't want to give
you the we don't want to use a roster spot
on you. We'll just pay you the money type of thing.
And if that's the case for Chris Paul, then he
wouldn't be able to go anywhere else.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I just don't know. I guess we'll get more information
on it. A very bizarre and also to do it
in the middle of the night, it's crazy too. I mean,
we've seen these movies made all the time at regular
times of the day. This would be like if the
Bucks did that to Damian Lillard when they waved and
stretched them and to get Mileserta. At least they did
during business hours. That was kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
We did have a question about Spencer Schrader colts Kicker
his status. That was a pretty severe It was broken
leg great and.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
A toorn ACL Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
No?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I believe it was ACL and mcl. His leg wasn't broken,
it was a couple of different ligaments in the knee.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Though.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
He's out for the season, so yeah, he won't be
kicking again until next year, well into next year.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I mean, tough, tough, tough stot. But anyway, if you
want some NBA action, could be a pretty entertaining basketball game,
depending on all who shows out and plays tonight. The
Pacers at the field House taken on the Denver. I'm
going to tell you more about that coming up in
a few minutes. But coming up next Stephen Holder covers
the Indianapolis COLTSESPN dot com. He'll stop by next on
ninety three five seven. Let's check in with our next guest,
(19:43):
who joins us this morning, up bright and early in
twenty degree weather. I don't know if you're sitting in
a car right now, carliner or not, Stephen Holder, but
thanks for joining us on the pay Less Liquors hotline.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Ain't outside here al right, he got heat.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
You see the sympathy you're getting that big guy.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
I'm trying to going outside as long as possible.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
The man is doing this from the bus stop.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
He ain't outside.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Well, no I'm not in the car. That will be soon,
but I'm going to have a remote start. It is
the best event ever for someone from Florida, let me
tell you.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
From someone from anywhere, I'll tell you that as well.
So I'll ask you the same question. What would your
your optimism level have been a month ago for the
Colts as opposed to what it is now.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
A month ago. I had him winning twelve games a
month ago, I mean, and I think that was like
a very realistic prediction. You know, Look, they might still,
They're not that far away from winning ten or eleven
now or even But I just think the trajectory is
such that it makes it hard to be optimistic. And
(20:54):
it's not as if we're just being negative. I think
that's the thing to kind of highlight, not just being
negative for the sake of being negative. I mean, I
can certainly do that, like, believe me, I'm very accomplished
at that, But that's not what this is. I mean,
I think we're we're just watching and reacting to what
we are seeing, and the injuries are such that it
(21:15):
does complicate things for them. But I believe the Savarius
Wards who said this. They do have everything in front
of them. They have to do the job, but they
still have everything that they wanted to accomplish. They still
can technically, but again, do we think they'll actually get there?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Stephen, were you surprised to see Justin Tucker's name on
the Colts trial list yesterday?
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Not terribly surprised. I mean, I think we know, just
based on how Michael Badgeley performs that the pickings are slim.
That's just what it is. You know, you get the week,
what do we week fourteen? And any position when you're
talking about the free agents that are available, I mean,
(22:04):
you're scraping pretty far down in the barrel at that point.
And that's just what it is. And I just think
the Colts didn't have a lot to choose from. It
doesn't mean they were really inclined to sign him. I
think the other thing is you want some competition in
a workout, right, and so he is certainly somebody who
(22:24):
could provide that. I don't know how close they came
to signing him. I think the assessment was that he
still has something in the tank, because I know a
lot of people have questioned that me included they felt
like there was something there, but I just don't know
if the juice is worth the squeeze. Personally, I'm not
(22:46):
making a judgment on what he did or didn't do,
because who the hell knows. But the guy was suspended
for ten games after an NFL investigation. They found some reason.
You would think to do that. Do you really need
that headache among all the other things you're dealing with,
would be my response to that.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Steven Holder is joining us now on the Payless Liquors
hot line, moving forward now, going into a place that
has not been kind to this team for the last
decade twenty fourteen, so last time they were able to
get a win in Jacksonville, what makes you make the
case for it'll be different this time because the Colts.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Well, I think that's thing to do. I can't. I
don't know if I can. I will say this. The
case is they're desperate. And I remember earlier this year
I was talking to Zire Franklin and I said to him, like,
you know this, You've had teams that have kind of
(23:49):
gotten off some good starts before in his time here,
and I think it was Leaven like twenty nineteen, for example,
he brought up but I think they were five and
two that year, and you know, so we were using
that as an example. I'm like, well, what's going to
be different this time because you didn't finish the job
any of those other times. And he's like, you know what,
last year's team I wouldn't have had I wouldn't have
(24:11):
had a lot of faith that we would finish the job.
He says, I feel like this team is different. And
he just said, there's just a different mentality this year. Now,
I think, given what's happened in the last four weeks,
you know, there's a lot of room to question what
he said in that conversation, right, but here's a chance
to prove it. Go prove it, Okay, tell us, show
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us you're different. This is your chance if they do this.
That they exercised one demon right in winning in week one,
which let's not underestimate what sort of an eight hundred
pound gorilla that was. This is the other one, So
go show us, and this would be the win of
all wins. To win in Jacksonville under the circumstances, I mean,
(24:55):
that would be huge.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Let's see Steven looking at the offense. I know a
lot of the talk has been about Daniel Jones and
his fractured fibula, and he's playing through it. I happen
to believe he's not been the number one problem for
this offense. But when you look at the offense as
a whole, why do you think we've seen such a
drop off from the juggernaut they were to the first
(25:19):
eight games of the year. I think it was at
like maybe thirty two thirty three points a game to
the last four being around I believe like twenty points
a game.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
I mean, I think it's a combination of a lot
of things. The execution overall needs to be better. The
wide receivers didn't have a good game on Sunday against Houston.
That is unquestionable. Josh Downs, Michael Pittman could have been better.
Alex Paris I think is probably holding up his end
of the bargain, But I think overall they needed to
be better. I think the offensive line, Look, those were
(25:54):
some tough matchups, but your censor cannot get bull rushed
into the quarterback by a defensive end, which literally happened.
And it's just one example. Okay, that's just one example
of them just getting just killed in individual matchups that
that can't happen. The blitzes are a problem. Again. Houston
(26:17):
doesn't blitz that much. It appears they blitzed a lot
more in that game. And you know why because they
have a compromised quarterback. And I think I will take
a little bit of disagreement there. I will say this.
I think Daniel Jones is doing a great job given
all of the available evidence and the situation that he
is in. That is a it's got to be a
painful injury, okay, but he is compromised. He is, it
(26:42):
is one true and that is affecting the play calling.
He got outside of the pocket one time on Sunday.
That is not his game. Part of his game and
part of the reason he's here is because he can move,
and right now he cannot. So you have shame. Ike
and Jim Bob Couter are working with an abbreviated playbook
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and that's having an effect, even on Jonathan Taylor because
there's no threat in the RPO. Not that they were
running quarterback runs anyway, but you at least have to
account for him getting outside, throwing on the run, all
of those things. It makes it easier for the defense,
and I think that is compromising them right now, there
is no question about it. And the defenses are reacting
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with a lot of pressure and they have to end
up with quick throws and those are not very productive.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
You know, it's crazy, Stephen. I was looking at the
game from last week, and if I'm not mistaken, I
believe Dale Jones, who a couple weeks ago had the
crazy nineteen yard run on third and twenty one in
Berlin to help save that game and win that game
in overtime. Sunday's game, the guy I believe had one
carry technically for one yard, and I believe it's when
(27:55):
he fumbled the snap and he dove want it to
get it back to let you know right there and
kind of piggybacks off what you were saying about how
different he looks compared to how he was a month ago,
and how the Colts keeps saying there's no restrictions.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Yeah, there are, yeah, And I think it's not about
you know, how he looks, That's not really the issue.
I mean, he's he's making do with what he has
and doing a great job under the circumstances. I think
both things can be true, right. I remember tweeting this
the other day about some of this topic, and some
of the responses took offense, and I said, well, I mean,
(28:31):
how are you going to bash this guy? He's got
a broken leg I know that's the point. He got
a broken freaking legs and he cannot play the same
way like that's the point. Look, he given all the
pressure they have faced in the last couple of weeks,
if he were healthy, how do you think he would
have reacted to that pressure much differently? Right, he would
(28:53):
have escaped the pocket a lot more. He's not trying
to escape the pocket. He's just trying to find anybody,
somebody he can throw the ball to, whether it's complete
or not, just so he doesn't take the sack. That's
what he's doing right now. And in some cases he's
just throwing a ball in the dirt, which is just
not Daniel Jones. That's really not what he's trying to
do out there. So there's no question if you look
(29:15):
at it, in his totality, he is compromised. But I
don't have an alternative for them because this is what
they got. They don't have, They don't have another option.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Let's stick there for a second, and I don't want.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
To hear about Riley Leonard and no offense, KD.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Not that you trust me, none, none, none taken as
you know full well, you're such a hater. Stephen Holder, ESPN.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
I love Riley Leonard. I love him as the Scout
team quarterback.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Respective run.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
There was a reason why he was puking after the
opening drive of the Ohio State National title game that
you can't duplicate that in the NFL. Stephen Holding from
ESPN with the year payless Slickers hotline, I guess, kind
of sticking to that general area, I'll throw a little
hypothetical at you. Better chance we see Sauce Gardner play
in the month of December or Anton.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
In the month of the season.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
I think Sauce Gardner, I just think that there's just
been no momentum toward getting Anthony Richardson back out there,
and I guess I'm not surprised. I mean, there was
always kind of a question about whether he would come back.
I think we never got a straight answer on whether
(30:24):
they expected him back. I mean, I think there was
hope that they would get him back, but there was
really no definitive answer when when we asked that, which
has been asked many times, right, there has been I
thought a very specific answer about Sauce. I mean, you know,
we'll see it's not written in blood. But but I
(30:46):
do think they seem pretty confident about him and the
Forest Buckner, for example. I'm interested to see how close
the Forest Buckner is when we get to practice today,
Like is he is he in the mix?
Speaker 3 (30:58):
You know, I don't still one more game out?
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Ye, one more week? Right, one more week? But like
you know, I saw him. I saw him in Kansas City.
He was in the locker room in good spirits. He said,
like he's getting close. You know. He seemed really optimistic then.
And I don't know. We'll see, but my point is,
I can I can show you very specific feedback we've
gotten on him, Sauce, Gardner, et cetera. We have not
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gotten that on Anthony Richardson. And I just think that
situation is so delicate when you're talking about a facial
injury of the nature that he had, that I don't
know if it's worth it, if there's any risk there,
you know, it's just not worth it.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I think, Yeah, I think you laid that out pretty
much in the same boat that I would. I will
note and feel free to if you guys saw otherwise
in Kansas City. I thought Sunday was the first time
we've seen Richardson on the sidelines since the injury. Is
that correct? Did you guys se him in Kansas City?
Speaker 5 (31:50):
I did not see him in Kansas City. I don't
know that he's traveled with them at all. So that's
a good point. You know, we're starting to see him
around the facility morning and again.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I'm just bringing that up. I'm not saying he's gotten
out of practice. I'm just simply saying from a in person,
we have we have seen him, frankly more than we
saw him the first whatever two three weeks after the injury.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
I would say. I think here's why. I think that's
an important thing to mention though, because for the first
I don't know, several weeks, we never even saw him. Okay,
I mean he was like at home to a to
a large degree, I think because as I as I did,
I mean I didn't do a lot, but as they
did a little bit of research on orbital fractures, I mean,
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the diagnosis and the recommendations, I should say, the medical
recommendations are like, don't even like lift a heavy box, literally,
you know, because any sort of strenuous effort can can
have an effect on the injury.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Don't sneeze, I mean, isn't that one.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Of those Yeah, don't sneeze. Yes, cough, don't cough too hard.
That's literally part of the actual medical recommendations when you
have an orbital fracture. So I want people to understand
just how severe in a situation that is. Yeah, I
don't think. I don't think we'll see him again.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Man.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
From pregame collisions to rubber bands breaking off in a
weight room. Man, I hope that's not the kind of
stuff that defines this could season when it's all said and.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Done, Steven, I mean, Lizen, what a year though? Think
about it, right, I mean that you've got the Shavarius
Ward in his situation. You've got Daniel Jones is rolling
having a Peyton Manning like season statistically, and then he
has a broken fibuler because how I don't know. I mean,
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it's just one thing after another. Deforce Buckner's hurt. You
trade for Sauce Gardner two games in he does this.
I mean they haven't gotten any breaks. I will give
them that. They're not the only team with injuries. That
is very clear. Joe Burrow and the Bengals could tell
you all about. But I mean for all of that
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to happen this year, of all years, it hurts, There's
no question about it.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Steven, stay warm, have a good day. We'll talk to
you again soon. I know these two guys will see
a little bit later on today, but I'll run into
you in a press box somewhere.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
All right, I'm starting to remote start right now.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Good morning. We're here to keep you as warm as
we can throughout the day here, and if nothing else,
maybe we'll be your remote start, Kevin. We'll get you
all warm and fuzzy for a great weekend of sports
coming up. On Saturday. You've got, of course, Louisville and
Indiana basketball over at the field House, and then later
on the night Big Ten Conference Championship football game between
Ohio State and the Indiana, the number one and two
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ranked teams in America. Right now, I'm here to tell
us more about how that all came together. The senior
director of Marketing and Communications for the Indiana Sports Cort
Dan Gliat joining us here on the pay Less Liquors Hotline.
Good morning, Dan, it sounds like you guys are going
to be busy all week long.
Speaker 6 (34:57):
Good morning, Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
It is a busy week in a long line of
busy weeks we have had here.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
At the sports scene in Indianapolis. But we're excited for it.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Dan, Appreciate you, boy, but I'm choked up just thinking
about it. Appreciate you joining us. Okay, let let's get
fans set for Saturday. Obviously, we've got two o'clock over
Game Bridge, as Jeff said, and then I forget the
exact kick time. I want to say eight o'clock over
at Lucas Oil in between games. Anything from a fan
fest standpoint, I think a convention center usually has some
(35:28):
activation stuff, So downtown wise, what could fans be looking for.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Yeah, we're super excited to host a big Camp Big
ten fan fest presented by Doctor Pepper once again inside
the Indiana Convention Center.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
It's going to be so much fun there.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
If you've been downtown for the Big ten fan fests,
you've seen this, but it's brand new this year. Once again,
we're gonna have tons of activations inside there.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
If you want to run the forty yard dash, if you.
Speaker 6 (35:53):
Want to play some video games, do you want to
do some diving catches.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
If you want to kick some field goals. This is
the place to be to get excited.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
You know, if you're going to that IU Louisville game,
come right over after that. If you're just getting ready
for the big game. If you've got a ticket in there.
If you do have a ticket to the Big Ten
Football Championship game, you have free.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Access into fantests.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
You actually got to send a separate ticket for that.
But if you don't have a ticket into the game,
tickets started just sixteen dollars, ten dollars for kids into
and under his free so really affordable, spans, friendly atmosphere.
It's going to be so much fun inside the Convention Center.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Dan, I don't remember last time a sporting event I've
been asked more about tickets to the actual game here
in our city than Saturday nights. I am curious, you know,
do you know like how tickets get divided up? You
know how many I guess did Indiana get, how many
of Ohio State get? How does that work for the
Big Ten championship.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
You know, it's a little bit different every single year,
and the Big Ten is the ones that handle those.
I know, like the teams get a certain amount each year,
and how those are divided up, I'm not exactly sure,
but like I said, this might be the hottest ticking
in town right now for this game. I mean, it's
one versus two. It's IU. Ohio State hasn't been here
in a couple of years. They finally got over that
hump against Michigan in one of the big games on Saturday.
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So we're just really excited to have just such a
huge crowd. We're excited for the town to literally be
painted red. I know that's a metaphors sometimes, but I
expect so much red downtown on Saturday between the IU
and Louisville basketball game and then Ohio State IU for
the football game.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
We're doing anything with the streets. We're going to rename
all the streets like Signetti Way or Mendoza Boulevard or
anything like that this weekend.
Speaker 6 (37:40):
I jove downtown today and I saw a couple of
the signs are up right now, the streets signs are up.
I'm looking over at Lukasho stadium and the signage is
going up right now on the north side of the stadium,
so all that street signage, all that stuff that we're
used to seeing the airport. I just want to shout
out our friends at the airport for everyone that's going
to be flying in for this game, and hopefully everyone
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can do it safely with the weather. But they've had
signage up for the last couple of weeks right now
and things like that, so the city is going to
be decked out ready for this game.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
So Dan as someone who is so envious of what's
going to happen this week, and I have to travel
for the Coles game, and if you can petition the
league to have the Cold slip their road game in
Jacksonville to a home game so I could be here
Saturday for all the festivities by all means, you know,
do that for me. But in all seriousness, when you're
looking at like logistically what you all have to do
and plan for, how much planning, pre planning goes into
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this and how much I don't know if it's post
playing is the right word, but how much does it
shift when you know you're going to get an influx
of IU fans.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
I mean, the Big Ten has been such great partners,
and we love to say here in Indianapolis that we
are been the only ones that ever host this game.
The Big Ten Football Championship Game has only ever been
hosted in Lucas Oil Stadium, and I think it's because
we worked so hard on that pre planning process. I mean,
we've been talking with the Big Ten four months about
all the different iterations and how we want to.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Make this game better.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
We don't just rest on our laurels, even though we've
hosted this game for a long time, for fifteen years now,
we really try to make it better for the student athletes,
for the coaches, for the fans every single year. So
that planning happens months in advance, and we've been looking
at the standings just like every other fan, and we've
been looking at a possible IU games here, and we've
been thinking about how to make this better, how to
make this for fans coming in. We've also been thinking
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about the Ohio State fans. Is the first time that
they've possibly been here for five years, so they haven't
been here for a while, so how do we.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Make this experience for them better?
Speaker 6 (39:34):
And then we'll talk about that after the game, as
well as how do we do it next year in
the year after to continue to make this the best experience.
We put ourselves out there as the best host city.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
In the country. This is one of those marquee.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
Weekends every single year you can market down that Indianapolis
is hosting it and we want to put on the
best experience possible for everyone involved.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Well, you guys always put on a great experience. There's
so much great stuff that's been here in the last
several years, dating all the way back to the Super
Bowl and All Star our Games and Championship Games, National Championship,
you name it, Final Fours, it's what we do here.
Of all those things, I still think one of the
most fun things we've done, my wife and I went
to the Olympic Trials two years ago when you put
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a pool at Lucas Oil Stadium. I know we've got
more stuff like that coming up. What are some of
the other big events on the horizon that we need
to keep on our radar.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
Yeah, in a couple of weeks, you know, I know
some of the Boilermaker fans probably aren't loving all the Iutah,
but in two weeks we were hosting the Indie Classic
presented by Bush's Chili Beans over at Gambridge Fieldhouse. That's
a college basketball doubleheader that's Purdue versus Auburn and then
Butler versus Northwestern. That's in a couple of saturdays over
at Gambridge. And then we are constantly working on the
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Men's Final Four coming here in the spring. We're also
hosting a Big Ten Women's basketball Championship that'll be in March.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
But we're really.
Speaker 6 (40:50):
Focused on a lot of basketball events coming up here.
And there's no better state than city to host college
basketball in Indiana and Indianapolis.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Who are really looking forward to that.
Speaker 6 (41:00):
But all our eyes once we get through this big
weekend are going to be focused on college basketball and
we're really excited about it.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Sounds good. Thanks for joining us this morning, Dan, We
appreciate that. Good luck this weekend, and let's see what happens. Man,
It's gonna be a lot of fun one and two
at the Big Ten Tournament or Big Ten Football Championship.
I can't wait.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
Hey, appreciate the time, guys. Love what you guys do.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
Keep it up.
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