Monday 12/1: Houston, we have a problem...Colts lose, Sauce sidelined & more!

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
They seized a fan morning show with KB Shavy and Jeff.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
The Colts are going forward fourth down in a yard
Tyler Warren drops the ball after're going under center and
was gonna run a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Sneak and the ball was kicked away.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
Sauce just limped from the Colts tunnel out to the
sideline wearing a boot pretty significantly limping.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
First in ten Texans at the eleven yard line of
their own territory. Back in the throw is Stroud. He's
got time, He's gonna.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Launch down field. Picked off by the Colts hats can't
find him at the forty two yard.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Line, takes a step, looks left, fires down the left
sideline into the end zone and it is Hey Cats
for islet Pears touchdown who Coppers nineteen yards Nick Chubb.
Chubb looking probing outside the numbers left, trying to bull
his way into the end zone, and he does. He
gets in from four yards out. Back in the throwers

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Jones left steps up in the pocket, is going to
take a shot down the left sideline and it is
It's a catch that great snag byke Josh downs Daniel
Jones right hold life.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Touchdown for the cuts Tyler Warren Touchdowndy.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Why running back left is Marx they fake it to him.
Now here's an in and round to Nico Collins outside
of the numbers left at the ten cuts of the five,
he's in touchdown. Nico Collins with his first career rushing touchdown.
And that's a drive that should have ended in a
field goal.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
For the text of US Houston, we have a problem.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
When you have opportunities to win it, you know what
I mean, you lose. You lose these tight games. Sometimes
you win the tight games, but when you lose tight games,
it's frustrating because you're like, shoot, we could have that,
we could have this, could add that. You look back,
it's three or four plays when you lose the tight ones,
and so we got to find a way to get
those three or four plays when it.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Is a tight game like that.

Speaker 6 (01:54):
For me, it's it's you know, putting your head down
and go back to work and making sure that I'm
doing and everything I need to do to put the
team in a positional wing gags death.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
Like every week, urgency whether your whatever your record is,
but especially in division games, you got to have a
ton of urgency in division games, and so now we're
sending it to in one of the division with another
the division opponent on the road.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
You know that we got to get ready for not
a victory Monday.

Speaker 7 (02:21):
Good morning, everyone, and welcome into the Fan Morning Show
along with Mark Tichen who's running everything.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Nice job as always.

Speaker 7 (02:26):
On the intro to the show, there got James boyd
am I right, Kevin bo went on the left? Where
do we even want to start with this football game?
A twenty to sixteen loss for the Colts on Sunday
at home against the Texans. We had missed kicks, we
had injury concerns, we had officiating blunders. We had an

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inability to make a big play at clutch time when
the plays were there to be made. Kevin, I'll start
with you. Where do you start at the top of
this pyramid? Where do you start with the twenty to
sixteen loss.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
I hope you guys had a great Thanksgiving and all of
our listeners as well, and that the travels weren't to
too severe. Mark Dighton shout out the lone Houston Texan
pick from last week. Mark sad to be correct, but yes,
one for ten right for the old station. I believe
if you got up everybody's picks, I'll carry the station

(03:20):
on my back.

Speaker 7 (03:20):
I thought Max had it nailed with the dinosaur pick.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
I thought it was there shows the wrong dinosaur this
past week. But yeah, I mean you just you listed.
I thought very accurately, accurately, and if you don't want
to look, maybe a little unit based. It was good
on good, and they're good was better than your good.
Their defense is better than your offense. And what I
think was a little surprising for me is I didn't
feel like their defensive ends necessarily won the game. Obviously,

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Will Anderson Junior made some plays, certainly Channel Bordolini has
won that he would like to forget. But I thought
for Houston to come into your building and win, one
of those two dudes would have to have a seven
point four point sort of changing play, and they didn't
have that. So in one of the biggest games of
the change, and this team loses at home and there
are some massive consequences for it. And now your grip

(04:05):
on the AFC South is gone.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
James Boyd no longer in first place in the AFC South.
And if you think about it, a month ago after
the game in Berlin. They were number one in the AFC,
so a lot has changed. One win, I believe, in
the month of November, So that is some tough sledding there.
And then from a big picture standpoint, we saw Sauce

(04:27):
Gardener go down with a non contact injury. They're labeling
it as a left calf, but we'll get into it
throughout the show.

Speaker 8 (04:35):
It sounds like that is a good sign.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
I would assume that when they test the achilles, which
everyone around here is like the calf achilles, that you
can tell pretty quickly if that is the nature of
the injury. However, he'll go undergo further testing, I believe,
he said last night slash early today, So we will
see where that is, what comes of that. But at
the very minimum, would expec him to miss at least

(05:00):
multiple weeks, considering that calf strains usually put you down
for a while, and we saw that what happened earlier
this year actually with Kenny Moore. That was like the
best case scenario. He missed three games and came back.
But yeah, tough scene for Sauce, and he also had
some unique comments after the game. I'll say that in
like a trolling way, he really did. I asked him
struct straight out, did they tell you it's not in

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achilles injury? And he'd started talking about God and I
was like, oh, this is not good. I didn't want
to go to church on Sunday after the game. You know,
usually before calf strains in indies. I know, but surely
you jest, sir. I know what the crazy part is.
I honestly felt like Daniel Jones with his reportedly fractured fibula,
was not the problem yesterday.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
No.

Speaker 8 (05:41):
I thought it was a lot of other things around him.

Speaker 7 (05:43):
It would have been nice if it had been healthy
for a potential quarterback sneak late in the game where
Tyler Warren took a direct snap and fumbled it immediately
and that was that.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Yeah, definitely, But again I thought that he was relatively
fine considering how stout Houston's defense is. It's just so
much more other things we can point to and say
this is where this team is lacking. So we'll get
into it throughout the show, for sure, but this team
is really lost through to the last four and at
this point, I'm like, you guys, gotta make some things happen.
Otherwise your grip on making the playoffs comes into question.

Speaker 9 (06:14):
It was Jarrings seeming like the playoff picture images and
the Cults were a wild card team. Like, what the
hell happened? It's been just a few weeks and they're
all of a sudden like a fifth seed or something.

Speaker 7 (06:24):
Well, you get Texans once again, you got two against Jacksonville,
you got San Francisco and Seattle interwoven amongst those games.
Doesn't get any easier, Kevin, Like, you're gonna have to
show up and earn your way in now.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
No, it's a harder schedule in the NFL over the
final five weeks. So yeah, it's it's gonna set up
one of the more critical months this franchise has had
in a while, short term, long term, how you want
to look at it. Obviously, the injury to Sauce Gardner
and his absence, you know, to Forrest Buckner is going
to be out another week. I think, you know, kicker
tryouts need to be happening by lunchtime here, But that's

(07:00):
no one wants to hear me gripe about kickers. Clearly
you guys didn't want me to gripe about kickers.

Speaker 7 (07:04):
I think today is the day to gripe about kickers
you're doing JMB. I was sitting next to JMB and
Jake Query yesterday in the press box, and I don't
know what came over me. It just happened. It was organic.
When he doinked that extra point. You might have heard
me up above in that next level, I had an
audible like it was almost like the ball hit me.

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And JAMB looked at me like, what is wrong with you?
And I've just been around long enough to know that
in that type of game against that defense and what
was going on. I know you guys felt the two
right then and there. You thought this could come back
to haunt them, didn't.

Speaker 8 (07:42):
It didn't.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
I had a line in my story that I right
after the game, you guys, and I'm not some genius here,
I said, if you make the extra point in the
second quarter, you're not in touchdown or else mode in
the fourth quarter, because that is also an implication of
what happened. They had to go for it on fourth
down because they're down four and they couldn't just tie
the game. So unfortunate situation. A lot more we can

(08:03):
get into Josh downs. I thought did not have enough
of the Josh downs types of players that were used to.
He did have a great play there in the third quarter,
but a terrible drop in the fourth quarter. And I
think generally over the last few weeks he hasn't really
been all that of a catalyst, a positive catalyst for
this team. So yeah, a lot of questions. I mean,
Shane's not absolved of anything either. So this is where

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you see what you're made of. And right now, for
all of the talk we've had about the Colts and
you know, them telling other teams, showing other teams that
they're different, that they're not fraudulent, they look fake right now.
So that is my biggest takeaway from that game was, oh,
you look very fake right now. You were seven to one,
you're now what eight and four, and the last couple

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of teams that you had good teams, you had opportunities
to win, and you folded twice.

Speaker 7 (08:52):
They're gonna have to try and find a way to
pull it all together down the stretch.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Good stuff though.

Speaker 7 (08:56):
Over the weekend the Class one A through six A
State Foot Championships over at Lucas Soil, I had the
opportunity to call six A with Matt Surface as Brownsburg
completes an undefeated season and they are back to back
six eight champions with an impressive performance. And I tell
you what I'd heard about the kid. I've read about him.
I saw a few highlights, but Brendan Sharp is the

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real deal for Brownsburg. There's a reason I was talking
to John Hart last week, the head coach, and he said, yeah,
there's about a dozen powerful power force schools that have
been sniffing around and talking to him about wanting to
come there. The junior had over one hundred and fifty
yards receiving in the first half and a ninety nine
yard kick return for a touchdown.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
I got some vibes honestly watching that, thinking back to
about ten years ago and Terry McLaurin was doing it
on that very turf in the state finals there and
only a junior for Brendan Sharp as well, So yeah,
it seemed like great games. I listened to four A
Ron Collie Dwanger went went out of the wire, great,
great game.

Speaker 7 (09:53):
Fakefield goal was the difference in that one.

Speaker 10 (09:55):
And that one.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Yeah, you had a fake field goal. That was a
huge call. So shout out to South Putnam and and
Cascade Hendrix County with two of them Dwanger and four
A and then Newpal with the big fourth quarter there
in five A.

Speaker 7 (10:08):
And New Pal's like the Honey Badger of high school
football teams. They'll play anybody, anywhere, any level. They'll just
keep going.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Lucasola Statum will be the place to be coming up Saturday,
as it is going to be quite the scene there
and the Cream and Crimson infiltration to downtown Indianapolis will
be a live.

Speaker 8 (10:24):
Am this week for I wanted to be downtown so bad.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Two o'clock over Gamers Field House, Indiana and Louisville, and
that is the undercard, which is pretty wild to say
that an Indiana basketball game involving Louisville is the undercard,
but that's the state of the football program as they
absolutely dismantle Purdue on the scoreboard uh Friday night in
the Bucket game, and it is one v two Saturday
night inside of Lucasol Stadium and potentially the Heisman Trophy

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I for grabs as well. All Right, lots to talk about.

Speaker 7 (10:52):
We'll recap all of it in a concise, quick fashion
come up in a moment on the checkdown. It's a
Monday here at ninety three five and one oh seven
five of the fan Hope your Monday is doing well.
As the calendar turns to December. It's the first and
the Colts are eight and four, But James Boyd, they
no longer are on top of the AFC South.

Speaker 8 (11:13):
No, they are not.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
They are tied with the Jacksonville Jaguars record wise eight
and four, but since the Jaguars having a better record
against common opponents, the time record goes to the Jaguars.

Speaker 8 (11:23):
So for the first.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
Time since Week six, the Colts are no longer in
first place in the AFC South.

Speaker 7 (11:29):
You probably watched it yesterday, either in person at Lucas
Oil or on television at home. The Colts lose to
the Texans twenty to sixteen. There was a missed extra point,
there were missed officiating calls. There was a questionable extra
point called good for the Houston Texans. It all added
up to crunch time for the Colts. They drove inside

(11:49):
the forty of the Texans at the very end of
the game, but they turn it over on downs and
that was that.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
That was We should probably update on Zas Gardner for
those that missed it. Postgame James, it sounded like Sauce was,
I don't know, somewhat optimistic. I don't know. The words
were a hair vague, but basically, as of right now,
the Colts will confirm a calf strain and we'll see
about the severity. But right now, the A word seems
to be on the back burner.

Speaker 7 (12:15):
Yeah, that was the good news, And it kind of
feels like to some extent, you know, James, if you've
messed up your if your achilles is ruptured, if I
feel like you'd have a pretty good idea, that's what's
going on.

Speaker 8 (12:26):
Yeah, but that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
I did ask him about the Achilles injury and he said,
I don't think it's an achilles And I said, hey,
were you told by the initial tests or trainers that
you avoided an achilles injury? And he told me I wouldn't
say a void and got into how God has a
plan for him, and I always thinking, well, you know,
I don't believe as well, So let's hope that God's

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plan includes you planning again this year.

Speaker 7 (12:51):
This is a good time to remind people that Sauce
Gardner was acquired for not one, but two first round
draft picks.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
And a d.

Speaker 7 (12:58):
Mitchell to the New York And if this is a
long term injury of any kind, you you wrote it
perfectly at one of seven five of fan dot Com.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Kevin, it's crippling to that trade. If that's the case,
well and you need to stand on the table for
what your boy did yesterday.

Speaker 7 (13:12):
And give me some some celebration all over the.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Wide receiver there fatal.

Speaker 11 (13:22):
Hall, had owt Taylor harrying it out, Mitchell touchdown.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Get that catch counter going Mark, it only goes past
up to ten.

Speaker 9 (13:37):
I'd have to do it myself.

Speaker 7 (13:38):
Thirteen fourteen, eight catches for one hundred and two yards
and a touchdown. Is this what we're going to see
for Ady Mitchell now that he's on a different.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Team or he definitely has some talent more receptions to
go this season can continue?

Speaker 3 (13:51):
That just a massive game for the Colts again coming
up on Sunday. Jacksonville is the opponent they took care
of business with Tennessee. As James said, these two teams
atop the AFC south right now. The Jags a slight
home underdog in this one. The Colts remain a favorite
here heading into Sunday One o'clock, and we know the
history down there in Jacksonville.

Speaker 7 (14:11):
How do you feel about the use of Jonathan Taylor
Day twenty He touched about twenty four times and he
had eighty five yards on twenty one carries. And I
thought he started to become more effective as you normally
does in the third and fourth quarter, but the Texans
never really allowed him James to like bust off the
big one yesterday.

Speaker 8 (14:27):
Yeah, I thought he was fine.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
Actually, I know we were talking about the MVP level
of John Taylor about a month ago, but I didn't
feel the same way I fell after the Kansas City game.
Following his performance, I thought he was fine, but like
I said, at the end of the game, he needed
more plays made by your pass catchers and they didn't
deliver for you.

Speaker 7 (14:45):
All right, Now, let's look at college football for a moment.
I you with an easy fifty six to three romp
over Purdue on Friday night. That sets up the Big
Ten championship game at Lucas Oil Stadium eight pm Saturday
evening against the undefeated and top ranked Ohio State Buckeyes.
And we say this several times during the season. Now

(15:05):
we're back up again to Is this the biggest football
game in the history of Indiana football now or was
last year's getting into the playoffs the key?

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Where were we at actually?

Speaker 9 (15:14):
Did?

Speaker 7 (15:14):
This?

Speaker 4 (15:14):
Is an interesting question because of the I know they're
competing for their first Big Ten championship, Kevin, But you've
talked a lot about like the implications of whether you
want to lose, and how there aren't that many So
I don't know how to feel about it.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yeah, I mean, the biggest game will be in a
month whenever they play the quarterfinal game, that'll be the
biggest game. But I mean, I guess up to this
point you can make the case I'd argue probably last
Yar's playoff game was bigger, just as you're playing for
a national championship. Here am I seeing this right? Four
hundred dollars the cheapest ticket to get in the building
for Saturday night.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
I'm actually surprised as that cheap. Seriously, I thought at
the minimum like eight dollars.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
People have been waiting for a long time.

Speaker 7 (15:51):
I just think psychologically it would be so big for
this for everyone, And this is why I asked the
question about biggest. I mean, to beat number one ranked
Ohio State. Yeah, to go to the to the postseason,
which you're going anyway, But man, that just.

Speaker 8 (16:05):
Has a different ring. I see what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
It will certainly be a statement victory. And as we
talked about this game, in my opinion, in the opinions
of many others, is for the Heisman as well.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (16:15):
Meanwhile, Notre Dame, the ninth ranked Fighting Irish, got to
win against Stanford forty nine to twenty. They beat the
Fight and Andrew Lux. Are they a playoff team, Kevin,
I can't imagine they would not be at this point
in time.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Would they? You're asking the wrong guy.

Speaker 8 (16:29):
I'm putting them in for sure.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
I would.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
It depends on what seed I guess is the argument now.
But yeah, they're definitely in my opinion, they've surged since
that early you know tumble, and they have one of
those plays in the country.

Speaker 7 (16:42):
You're also Division two playoffs. You indeed done thirty five
twenty seven. They lose to Minnesota State. In Division three
it was North Central a thirty eight six win over Hanover.
But DePaul advances with a twenty six to twenty three
road win at UW Whitewater. Kevin, You'll know this teams
don't go into Whitewater and win playoff.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Games at that level now, And that was a snowy scene,
So shout out to the Tigers. They'll host coming up
Black Sox Stadium. I believe that is a noon kicka
Wheaton coming up on Saturday.

Speaker 7 (17:13):
That'll be Againstheton. And also Marion gets their playoff run
underway after a ye, they will play Kaiser in the
NAIA Playoffs in West Palm Beach, Florida. Coming up this
weekend in the NBA, the Indiana Pacers. Don't look down
James a two game winning streak for the Pacers after
a walk off from Piasco Pascal Siakam on Saturday night.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
We'll take that absolutely, and I'm so mad that it
won't count as like a game winning buzzer beater because
somebody left zero point one on o'clock. We got to
get the home crowd, the home clock operated, the you know,
keep the finger off the trigger there. But nevertheless, game
winner and good vibes for the Pacers over the weekend.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (17:47):
Also, the Pacers will be back at home tonight at
the Fieldhouse seven pm tip against the Cleveland Cavaliers, airtime
six thirty at ninety three, five and one oh seven
five the fan. We talked about high school football just
a moment ago. Your state champions this year, Brownsburg, newpal Fort, Wayne,
Bishop Dwinger, Cascade, Andrean, and South Putnam. And I know

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Andrean is up in the region, but man a seven
to nothing win over the top scoring team. Shout out
to fifty nine in all classes this year and they
shut him out.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Did not see that one?

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Come?

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Yeah, shout out to Chris Skinner, the head coach at Andrey,
and he's now been a part of all four of
their state championships. He was one time as a player,
I believe, and then I want to say four state
CHAMPIONSIP appearances as a player, assistant coach, and now two
times as the head coaches won state.

Speaker 7 (18:32):
Anybody else want to throw any being one more thing
a log on the fire before we move along here.

Speaker 8 (18:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
Half of the night for Zachi Edy last night thirty
two points, seventeen rebounds, five blocks for the Purdue product.
Saw a note that those numbers have not been produced
in the NBA game since shack Ooh that's a good
nineteen ninety nine shaquill O'Neil so Zachi Ed, Yeah, little

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banged up to start the season, a big, big night
for him, and a lot of college basketball coming up
this week too. Perdue, Indiana, Butler all put up really
nice offensive performances over the weekend in their respective venues.
You'll start big ten play for the Hoosiers and the
Boilers this week. It's at Rutgers for Perdue, Rutgers Terrible
Minnesota for Indiana, and then Butler will be back in

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action tomorrow night at Hinkle. So we start to get
into a little bit more of a you know, back
into kind of circle. Some college basketball games on the
calendar here locally.

Speaker 7 (19:28):
All right, that's what's happening in the world of sports
around Indianapolis. We'll talk a lot about the Colts and
their twenty sixteen defeat at the hands of the Houston
Texans at Lucas Oil Stadium yesterday, and we'll do it
next at ninety three five and one oh seven five they.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Seized a fan morning show with JB jab and Jeff
The Texans today are zero for four on third and
ten or long eard.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
This is third and fifteen, the twenty five yard line
for in field goal. Terror toory here. Christian Kirk potions
out wide on the left side. Now CJ. Stroud clapping
for the snap. He takes a five step drop over
the metal, throws and his receiver fell in. A flag
is on the mollage at the fifteen yard line. Cam
bind him in coverage for the Colts. But slipping on

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the turf. I believe that was Xavier Hutchinson pass interference. CJ.
Stroud fist pumping in celebration and that it's a horrible call.
We're looking at the replay and Hutchinson literally just slips

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on the turf and he was hardly touched and in fact.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
He wasn't touchout touched at all.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Listen. I'm not an official guy. I don't go after officials,
but that's the worst call I've seen home.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Oh no, the Colts great good.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
The Colts get a horrible break right there. The anger
level in Indianapolis is at an all time hide here
inside Luca Soil Stadium.

Speaker 11 (21:01):
I mean, this is for all the marbles, guys, geez,
Coach Van Terry, I Am not going to disagree one
single bit with that, but there were lots of fingers
to be pointed yesterday after watching the Colts drop one
of the Texans at Home twenty to sixteen.

Speaker 7 (21:19):
You had the doint extra point early in the game
that set the tone for what you thought might be
a problem later on as it was then, aside from
that horrendous non interference call that Kenny Moore didn't even.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Touch the receiver.

Speaker 7 (21:33):
I've looked probably eight to ten times at the extra
point that Kay Fairbairn got credit for in the final
touchdown that the Texans scored, and I'm sorry that thing
was not good. I don't know what those two guys
underneath the uprights are looking at. I looked at it
from two different angles that they had. You have to
have the ball clearly inside both of those uprights. At

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the very least it was touching on the outside of
that thing. I don't know what those guys were looking at.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
That was epic audio from Rick Venturi there marked acton great. Great.

Speaker 9 (22:05):
They have some gems that I'll play later in the show.
They were in their bag yesterday.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
It's so funny. I always chat with coach Ventury on
the walk to the elevator after the game, and gosh,
he's able to get so much more subdued postgame than
obviously was he in the moment. The bigger issue I
had on that play was a delay a game.

Speaker 12 (22:22):
To me, I have.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
I don't get why delay a game A is not
reviewable and B why don't we treat it like the
shot clock in basketball? Why don't we simply just have
a red light that lights up on the play clock
and the umpire of the ref spots it and boom,
good take it is a flag too easy, like that's

(22:48):
black and white, Kenny Moore, whatever, and then it is
reviewable at that point, right, Kenny Moore? It was a
bad call, but that's a judgment call. Fairbands extra point?
Do I think he missed it?

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Is it a judgment call? Yes, Delay a game isn't
a judgment call. It's obvious either the clock is at
zero and the ball hasn't been snapped or it's not.
So A I think it should be reviewed, and B.
I don't get why there's this like unwritten rule of no.
The umpire looks at the play clock and then he
looks back up and if the balls yet to be snapped,

(23:22):
then the plays allowed to be happened because we see
plays snapped. I would argue probably three to five times
a game with zero on the play clock. It makes
no sense to me why this has become some unwritten
NFL rule. So that occurred on that very play right there. Again,
the pass interference was an awful call. And yes, I

(23:44):
think the extra point it probably was missed. Do we
need to raise the goalpost to the roof?

Speaker 4 (23:49):
I don't know, but I feel like at one point
in that game, didn't they use like the I believe
it was the Colt's fourth downstops that they got hawkeye. Yeah,
they were like, you know, the chip in the ball,
we use some advanced data and they didn't advance it
past this mark. And so shout to Nathan Brown. Actually
go check out his work at Indie Star as well
New Colts Reporter. He was talking about after the game

(24:11):
how they should have like lasers or something that just
go straight up so you know exactly if the ball
cleared or not. That would make too much sense as well.
But that one, to me doesn't bother me as much. Yeah,
I think the delay of game one is the one
where I'm like, the answer to it. Oh, don't get

(24:31):
me wrong, they definitely bothered me, but I'm like, if
you're picking one, that's stupider than the other. I feel
like the one where the clock literally runs out as
the simplest of the two to decipher.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
That's black and white.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Looking at the explanation from Clay Martin, the official, shout
Joel a Erics and Vandy Starr, he's a poor reporter
if it I was listening. A poor reporter is the
person who goes and talks to the officials about controversial
calls after a game. And Clay Martin, the lead official, said,
the back judge is the calling official, and there is
a process on that when the clock hid zero, he

(25:01):
looks down to the ball, and if the ball is
snapped as he looks down from the clock to the ball,
we leave that alone.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
That's what he ruled on the play.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
So to get some context here, when you ask these
officials in these NFL settings about missed calls, they never
say they missed it.

Speaker 8 (25:18):
They just say, oh, I felt like this process, which
I feel like is pointless.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
Then, like, why do we have you sit up there
and say anything if all you're going to say is well,
I felt like this was right.

Speaker 8 (25:29):
Well I felt I got said Mary Rihanna, it didn't happen.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
So in my mind, I just think that that's kind
of dumb and it gaslights you into like thinking you
didn't see what you just saw with your own eyes.
That's my only take on it. Like why even interview
them if they can't tell you I messed up. At
least the NBA has the last two minute report.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah, which is pointless.

Speaker 8 (25:46):
Though that's pointless two screw Like.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
Dang, they at least say they were wrong. The NFL
just kind of smug. It's like, well, you know what,
we were not wrong. Your interpretation of what we interpretated
was wrong.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
What I'm glad you explained what the poor report was
because I'm sure there's an all out there that doesn't
quite know what it is. I think it's the stupidest thing.
And I mean Joel walked down to us and was
asking us, Hey, what questions should I ask the official?
I wanted to say to Joel Joels, to waste your time. Yeah,
like you're going to get at least, if you really
want to compare injury or pool reports too minial reports.

(26:18):
At least the NBA will admit they're wrong. That's what
I'm saying. The NFL is not going to admit that
the wrong and the immediate aftermath. It's not like Clay
Martin is in a locker room with Joel a Ericson
and they're going over and watching the film together and
he's explaining, oh, yeah, you know now that I see it,
Like did Kenny Moore? I forget his exact phrase, James.
He said that he grabbed the receiver at the top

(26:39):
of the route. Yeah, I believe was kind of the
exact frame arm.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
Grabs what the official said, you know, and if you
look back at the play, he did grab his arm slightly.

Speaker 8 (26:48):
But man, in an NFL game, I think I.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Did more touching at my first school dance than anymore
did on Xavier Hutchinson on that play there. Yeah, just again,
to me, the delay game is a bigger issue. And
I thought the pass interference penalty on Alex Pearis was
a bad call. I mean, Daniel Jones almost hit the cheerleaders.

Speaker 7 (27:07):
Yeah, with that ball?

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Is there an uncatchable element to Again, these are where
the judgment calls get into gray area. For me, what's
black and white? The clock red zero. That is a
delay of game. It should be reviewed and we should
have a nice little red light right around the play
clock on each side of the field, and when it

(27:29):
goes off, it's abundantly clear it's a five yard penalty
and no more this unwritten rule of well, if it's
a zero in my head, didn't look up in time
and you snap the ball, whila, you can have forty
one seconds in play.

Speaker 7 (27:43):
Well, there are other things to talk about as well,
And I thought that this was interesting from Richard, and
I'm not gonna lie. This discussion happened with two different
media people up in the press box throughout the course
of the game, and I think it's been there sometimes.
Maybe it's overstated or not.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (28:01):
You guys, tell me you're around the team a little
bit more. But I kind of agree with Richard here,
who texted in at two three nine ten seventy and says,
I feel like Shane draws up plays like he is
the smartest man in the room.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
He very well might be.

Speaker 7 (28:12):
But the play where you have Tyler Warren take the
snap with DJ in the backfield, why not just line
up and say our O line is going to beat
you instead of a bit of a trick play that
ends up disastrous. I feel like this has happened more
often than not.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
That play is certainly one they wish they could have back.
I'll tell you this, and this isn't some genius analysis.
They're not going to QB sneak with the guy with
the broken leg, so that's not happening. I think they'd
really missed that element. Actually fine with that their game.
But yeah, to the point of what Richard is saying, yeah,
how about you just handed to twenty eight and go
out there and whoop somebody. But I don't know, man, Look,

(28:53):
I'm not necessarily like gonna look at I don't know
if Shane was a problem yesterday. I thought Shane was
awful in Kansas City, But yesterday I felt like the
playmakers had to make more plays. Are we having the
same conversation if, for example, Josh Downs doesn't drop that
ball on third down in the fourth quarter, Like, I
don't know if they're like, it's just.

Speaker 7 (29:13):
Make some of the calls that we've been talking about
all of those things.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Again, we are in the camp of we want to
I think blame Shane Stiken for everything. James, I thought
you said it very well the Kansas City game with
an I guess an injured quarterback. You throw the ball
eight straight times in abandon Jonathan Taylor Like that, to
me is much more of an issue than can we
not just say the ball probably should have been snapped
and Tyler Warren probably should have secured it. Like did

(29:36):
Houston not run tight end QB sneak yesterday? Did?

Speaker 4 (29:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Did the Baltimore Ravens not gonna say?

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Houston literally had a wide receiver score his first rushing
touchdown of his career.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Like Baltimore does the Mark Andrews thing a lot. They
don't do so Lamar Jackson, so they don't do Derek
Henry Like, to me, there is an element of sometimes
the dudes just need to execute the play. Daniel Jones
is hurt, he's not gonna QB sneaking what happened last
week on third and one, Jonathan Taylor got blown up,
Like it's not to me, the QB sneak in third
and short, fourth and short is exactly the play call

(30:08):
team should do.

Speaker 7 (30:09):
So let me ask a question on that, because you
bring up a good point. Who's probably your biggest, strongest
skilled position player on that team right now, probably Tyler Warren.
Why not just have him to take a direct snap
and do it. Our version of the twish push and go. Well,
that's what they tried to do, and he fumbled it, right,
but I'm talking about under center he did, okay, and

(30:29):
he fumbled it. Yeah, I mean that's exactly what the
play was. The play was supposed to be a QB
sneak with Tyler Warren.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
I don't you know, Shane's getting too cute. I mean, okay,
Daniel's got a broken leg. QB sneak had worked what
every time with Daniel Jones this season. I'm trying to think, James,
I can't recall it. Maybe got stopped once. It's like
nine of ten. Yeah, whatever the percentage is is, it's
at a very high level. So what's the next best thing?
In my opinion, it is Tyler Warren and following you know,

(30:57):
Quentin Nelson and following you know, that offensive line. That
was just a bad execution play by the players itself there.
So I'm not in this. You know, we have to
blame Shane for every single thing. Did the Colts not
come to play in their biggest home game of the
season and one of the biggest games in the Shane
second era, Yeah, that's very fair to say. But in

(31:18):
that individual play, I got no issue with it.

Speaker 7 (31:25):
The other thing that I did want to talk about too,
because I do think you mentioned this in your story,
and this is a positive, is Alec Pierce developing into
the clear number one wide receiver on this football team.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
There's no development. He is, period. Alec Pierce is the
best wide receiver the Colts have. He is the most
threatening wide receiver the Colts have, and I would argue
he's the most reliable around the whole route tree, which
that's where the developing part probably comes into play, Jeff.
But right now, I mean, you know when you look
back on that final drive Taylor, what gets stopped for

(31:59):
you know, one or two yards on first down, second down,
they take the shot to Pierce, and then third down
downs drops a fourth down, the ball goes off. You
know Pittman's outstretched hands right now, this offense, if it's
not going to Jonathan Taylor, it needs to be targeted
Alec Pierce at all costs. You know, good things happen
when you target him down the field. I think DB's panic,

(32:20):
but I also think Alec Pierce is rounding out that
route tree in the growth that you want to see.
So to me, he is the number one wide out
on this football team. It's going to be a massive
payday for him. All of those things. I thought he
was out a very small basket and it was alec
that dude thrives. He's probably the most unclaustrophobic human I've

(32:41):
ever seen. I feel like Alan Pierce in those small
little areas. He just so cool, calm and collected, makes
that catch seemingly every single time.

Speaker 7 (32:50):
And I will say this too, on that bum leg
that throw. A couple of throws that Daniel Jones made yesterday,
James and especially that one to Piers to touchdown, those
were sweet rows.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Had a couple of the downs too.

Speaker 12 (33:05):
Man.

Speaker 8 (33:05):
Absolutely, I thought that he's he looked fine.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
And this goes back to even the Thanksgiving Day practice
where video comes out and I'm looking at him and
he's limping around.

Speaker 8 (33:16):
He's fine.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
On like stationary throws, it's the movement throws and obviously
the scramble. We didn't se him scramble, not once yesterday,
I believe, which is probably a good thing. Although we
did see a Texans defensive tackle dive right into his
leg from the pass. The penalty that I was like,
that couldn't have felt great, but he was fine. I
didn't think that Daniel Jones was the problem yesterday at
all whatsoever. He gave you a chance to win that game,

(33:39):
which is all you can ask for from him. Is
he no longer playing at at the MVP level like
he was the first month of the season. Sure, but
dos I mean he's been playing awful to me. But
I do think we're starting to see teams kind of
figure the Colts out. I want to say, not say
I know this for a fact. Actually, through the first
eight games when they were seven to one, they were
averaging thirty three point eight points per game, and over

(34:02):
the last four games, I want to say, they're just
under twenty two points a game.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
So that is a stark.

Speaker 8 (34:08):
That's like eleven point difference right there.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
That's a big, big difference in your production and the
way you've been able to dominate teams over the last
month of the season. And it will not get much
easier from an opponent standpoint, because of you know that,
I get that feisty Jaguars team. You have to beat
them in forever down in Duval County, and you also
have Seattle and the forty nine ers awaiting, So Yeah,

(34:31):
it's it's now or never if you're going to kind
of prove that you're not the same old Colts and
you're not going to blow this away Jacksonville.

Speaker 7 (34:37):
What what I got to talk about them for a minute.
I know they're coming up and we'll talk about them
all week long. But when you take a look around
the AFC South, Jacksonville's now eight and four, and as
you mentioned right now have the tiebreaker over the Indianapolis Colts.
They dominated on the road. And I know Tennessee is
not a great football team, but Jacksonville starting to feel
themselves a little bit. They're winning some football games these days.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Tough team and if you're looking for like Marque victories,
they have a few of them this season. Kevin, and
this could be another one for him.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
Yeah it can City San Francisco right beat the Chargers
by a lot, So yeah, I mean it's going to
be a huge, huge one. Sound like a broken record,
I know, I said it last week, these two games
coming into Sunday. If you beat Houston and Jacksonville in
these consecutive weeks, I believe your AFC South odds increased
to north of ninety percent. Obviously, you lost yesterday, so

(35:25):
that can't happen if you split. So if you're gonna
if you beat Jacksonville conav on Sunday, your AFC South
odds about a coin flip. If you lose, those odds
would drop south of twenty percent.

Speaker 7 (35:39):
So it just.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
I don't think it's that hyperbolic to continue to stress
the massive, massive importance. Not just I would argue for
this season. I mean, there are some ramifications that if
you bottom out here in December, what about the future,
What about the future at the pillars of this organization?

(36:04):
I might those questions can't be ignored.

Speaker 7 (36:06):
Right, I might point to next week in and of itself.
Obviously you're playing Jacksonville, and now if you lose to
Jacksonville on the road, you're a game behind them, and
they've got a head to head over you, even though
you got won the play left. And if Houston wins
their game next week, I got Kansas City Sunday night, Yeah,
they play Kansas City someday, they win that football game,

(36:29):
you might be looking at third place all of a
sudden in the AFC South, correct, I mean.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
You are you would, I believe if those scenarios play
out Jeff, I believe you'd be out of the playoffs.
I think right now the cults of the sixth seed, Mark,
will you double check that they're the sixth seeds sixth seed?
And one thing to note about the playoff picture right now,
eight nine to ten, which are the three teams obviously
just outside seven teams make the playoffs from each conference?
Eight nine and ten, they all have beaten you. That's

(36:57):
in some order. I forget the order. But it's like Houston, Pittsburgh,
Kansas City. So if you get into the tiebreaker situations
with them right now, the Houston one, you could split
it if you beat them in the final game of
the season. If that matters. Right now, they aren't in
your favor.

Speaker 7 (37:11):
Well as far as a couple of those teams are concerned.
Pittsburgh yesterday you got the crowd chanting fire Mike Tomlin
in the fourth quarter of another Steelers loss. Who knows
what the the health issue for Aaron Rodgers is going
to be moving forward.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
A great meme that he looked like he had just
he was one of the robbers and home alone.

Speaker 7 (37:30):
Yeah, I saw that. You try to mess with Kevin
had the bloody nose and they're the.

Speaker 9 (37:39):
Big surprise. He's blaming his wide receivers again.

Speaker 7 (37:43):
But here's the other thing though. If Houston does win
Sunday night, that's bad in one sense for the Colts,
but it does probably eliminate the Chiefs at that point,
Don Jay Man, at this point.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
You any boat to be cheering for that. Man. There
you are in an AFC South boat and that period,
you can't be worried about the Chiefs. Mark, shout out
to your bears. Just win.

Speaker 9 (38:03):
Yeah, that was impressive on Friday, very impressive. They are
now sports arousal as jam V says. Yeah, one seed
in the NFC with the Rams losing in the cross
country game. Yesay, the Carolina Panthers. I must say, I
was looking across your way to see if those standings
were up on your computer. Were you checking the bio
of Carson Wentz. I'm doing some research, Kevin. We got

(38:24):
Goats of the Week coming up. Might have some research
coming up. What the hell has Carson Wentz done in
the last seven days. It's called the tea's You just
have to sit back, relax and wait. All right, some
was stop cheating off your tests, man, Michael Professor here
Mike Wells looking at him or something. Well, hey, Michael's
probably filled himself a little bit after the way Brownsburg
marched to a six A championship.

Speaker 7 (38:45):
I saw Mike yesterday pregame at the at the press
box and he was holding court with a bunch of
the Indiana University students that he teaches and mentors down there,
and then it man he was They were hanging on
every word that he had to say. Carson has a
nice touch on his bass.

Speaker 9 (39:03):
Yes he does.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
I don't believe that was the conversation he was having.
Oh that was not it was.

Speaker 7 (39:08):
It was a legitimate conversation, but it was. It was
fun to see him in his elementent.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Loot in the back of the studio right now?

Speaker 9 (39:16):
Is that one?

Speaker 7 (39:17):
How did he catch all these strays all of a sudden,
It's Saturday night inside of Lucas Oil Stadium.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
The hottest football ticket we've ever had for a game
in there?

Speaker 7 (39:26):
Would you say four hundred dollars for the cheap seats
right now?

Speaker 3 (39:29):
What do you think.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
Is this with the context of the previous Colts home
playoff games were like played at the former place.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Well, no, I mean you obviously have had Colts playoff
games in there. You know, AFC Championship would probably be
in the level, right, but in the let's say, maybe
the last ten issues, it's all like, all right.

Speaker 8 (39:48):
AFC championship game is kind of kind of b twelve
years but like if you look.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
At secondary ticket market, harder ticket to get that, you
had a national title game there Alabama Georgia a few
years ago. Yeah, I mean, this is it's not I
don't think it's at Taylor Swift levels. That's why it's
going to bring up. But for sports, this has got
to be it, right right, I'm hard pressed to recall
something else. I mean, I I Royal rumble tickets. It

(40:12):
honestly just kind of popped in my head. I really
haven't given a much thought, so I could be dead
wrong on it, but I mean the cheapest ticket being
four hundred dollars on a Monday.

Speaker 8 (40:21):
I always forget the Natties on a Monday.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Well no, no, no, no, today, you mean today? Today?
I mean we're six days out with the old boy.

Speaker 8 (40:29):
That's going to be.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
You can go to a Colts game in those tickets
that are four hundred dollars on Saturday night for what
Mark like forty Bucks.

Speaker 9 (40:36):
Probably doing some cross referencing now to see what we're
looking at here. Don't look at my screen, Kevin.

Speaker 8 (40:44):
Yeah, you gotta get a couple like you gotta get
the folders. Remember the folders you'd have.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Oh yeah, all right, there you go. All right.

Speaker 7 (40:52):
Coming up in a month, we'll talk more about the Colts.
Will take some of your phone calls. Get the pulse
of Cults Nation today at two three nine ten seventy.
Will also check in on a bunch of tech that
have been flying in all morning at the same number
two three nine ten seventy. Colt's got a lot of
work to do and it's straight ahead of them. We'll
tell you all about it next to ninety three five
and one oh seven to five.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
The Fan, Good morning.

Speaker 7 (41:12):
I wish we could make your day a little brighter
if you're a Colts fan. But they did lose twenty
to sixteen to the Houston Texans yesterday. Great recap there
as always by Mark Dichton along with James Boyd and
Kevin Bow and I'm Jeff Rickard. Welcome into the Fan
Morning Show. And all of a sudden, the team that
was on top of the entire AFC just a couple
of weeks ago, is fighting for their playoff lives over

(41:33):
the final several weeks of the season. Yes, Kevin Bowen,
they would be in the playoffs as a wild card
team today. But you talk about the fact that by
the numbers, they've got the most difficult schedule remaining in
the NFL and a couple of division games, which I
suppose you could look at as opportunities too. You know,
you get to play Jacksonville twice, you get to play
Houston again in their building next time, and Sandwichton. Between that,

(41:55):
you've got Seattle and San Francisco. You gotta start playing
your best football again. And I don't know if that
means coming back from injuries. We'll talk about Sauce Gardner
in a minute, doesn't. I don't know what the time
for being fully healed for Daniel Jones is going to be,
or if that ever gets fully healed over the course
of the season.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (42:12):
But you got to start playing your best football right now.
You might not get to the postseason.

Speaker 9 (42:16):
If the playoffs started to day. You know the Colts
will play in the playoffs, they would.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Go to Jacksonville. Jacksonville man, Yeah, that's what I think.

Speaker 8 (42:25):
You just brought Jeff down a couple more notches.

Speaker 7 (42:27):
Man, that's PTSD because we've been watching the Colts for
the last decade.

Speaker 8 (42:30):
Jacksonville's not it's not good for the Colt not kind
down there in Duval.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Yeah, I mean yesterday is one of the biggest games
in the Change second era period. I think that was mentioned.
I know you only have three shows last week with Thanksgiving,
but it had that sort of heightened urgency to it.
Now there's probably a decent chance you'll have another game
or two that will meet that sort of criteria here
with the final five weeks. But the grip you had

(42:57):
on the AFC South playing from ahead, you know, for
the first time in a while record wise, that you know,
all that is gone. Now you are fighting, and you're
gonna have to fight on Sunday without DeForest Buckner for
at least another game. I would say, how Mooney or
how Sauce Gardner was walking on the sidelines. I'd venture
to guess he is going to miss some time as well.

(43:18):
And you know, I kind of I guess Frodian slipped
there and said Mooney, ward boy, he's going on there
you just need better from him. I mean, I get
the man's been through a lot, and he's been through
a lot, certainly from a concussion standpoint this season, but
it just seems like it's a step slow right now

(43:39):
for him in the last couple of games. And you know,
I hold Kenny Moore the second and this is a
credit to Kenny to a very high standard. I mean,
he has been an outstanding player for this football team,
and I just feel like we haven't got the same sticky,
sticky Kenny Moore lately. And you know, they play position

(44:00):
James where if there's any little deficiency you see it.
You know a lot of other positions, it can be
hidden at corner. If it's just a little slow, it
gets exposed. And I just think the last couple of
weeks with Mooney and with with with Kenny as well,
probably warred a little bit more. If I'm going to

(44:21):
be totally you know, honest and nitpicky here, you just
need better. I guess.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
I would definitely piggyback off of that. And he doesn't
look like a number one corner, one blank period.

Speaker 8 (44:32):
And that's what you paid.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
Yes, Yeah, Various Ward is not like a number one
corner back, and you need him to be that. But
looking at this defense, it's like, boy, the vision of
it was so good on paper when you made the trade.
You bring in Sauce, you have Javarious Ward coming back.
You at the time have the Forest Buckner playing at
a very high level. And there's a chance those three

(44:55):
players might not be on the field at the same
time this season, you know, when it comes to or
they might not be on the field together for any
send a period of time this season. So we'll see
what the future holds for Sauce Gardner. I'm sure there'll
be plenty of questions and scans and says over the
next couple of days.

Speaker 8 (45:13):
And then on top of that, yeah, it.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
Is a question to see where is to various awards
head at and how do you kind of help him
out of a funk because I know he's not playing
at the level that he envisioned for himself.

Speaker 8 (45:25):
So it won't get any easier.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
You'll have your hands full for sure downstretch of this season,
hardest scheduled to end the season probably of any team
in the league.

Speaker 8 (45:34):
So no rest for the weary, no rest for the.

Speaker 7 (45:37):
Weary at all. And again I go back to it.
I don't think any of us know. But the leg
injury to Daniel Jones is that just does that have
to be managed for the rest of the season. Can't
it get better if he gets three or four days?
I mean, it sounds like any kind of an injury
to a bone, unless it's just a deep bruise. It
sounds like it's more than that. I don't know how
it gets better unless you just get off it for

(45:58):
a couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
I thought they should have a Riley Leonard run out
of the tunnel for Daniel Jones. Yesterday I felt bad
they made Daniel Jones run to the fifty yard line
I like to start the game. I'm like, damn God,
he can blue carry him halfway there? Like I've felt
bad for him. I mean, I think the cults have
expressed James that they do think this is an injury
that can get better. Yes, as the season moves along.

Speaker 8 (46:20):
But I have a question about that. So doctor James here,
James Boyd.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Doctor James Andrews.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
Yes, how much better does your leg get when a
three hundred pound man dives into it in a football game?
Because anything that can get better can get worse. And
I'm not saying that's the case for him, But I
can't drink all of the kool aid they're giving out
to us, like, oh, he'll get better, you know, in
due time he'll be one hundred percent Again, Yes, and no,

(46:50):
there's a possibility that you can get worse. I don't
want to sit here and act like I'm too stupid
to realize that. The idea is that you don't want
him to get hit very often. He took some hits
to that lower extremity last night, I'm sorry, yesterday, last game.
So that is something I want to keep an eye on,
and I wonder if that is a factor in how
quickly or not quickly you get better.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
Yeah, given how this offense is right now, you need
the Daniel Jones. You saw a little bit in Germany,
and that was a guy that scrambled his way to
some critical yardages first downs, and right now you don't
have that now. He obviously made several I thought big time,
big time throws. I thought the throws the downs there
on that one drive one was negated by the Bernard

(47:32):
Ryman holding. I mean, those are some big le Sunday throws.
But you know, again, he's still quarterback in offense. That
was what three to ten on third down and had
its you know, lowest point total of the of the season.
So yeah, I mean health wise with him, it's just
can you get back I guess to a little bit

(47:53):
more of a he can do some things, you know,
that are not just scripted three five step drops. I
think one of the more frustrated aspects to the overall
loss yesterday, like Daniel Jones was sacked one time. Yeah,
I mean if you would have told me that walking
into Lucas Ool Stadium yesterday, Daniel Jones can be sacked
one time in this game.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
Especially if they sacked Josh Allen eight times the week
before and he's not gonna fumble in the play, that
drive is gonna end in a punt, I would have say, Wow,
the Colts are gonna win this game.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
But Nico Collins did Nico Collins things, and Houston when
they needed to get stops, they got those stops. And look,
I know it turned into a little bit of a
bit and it was half joking, half serious, but and
I was probably more serious than you guys wanted to
believe in me. But the Colts have a kicker problem. No,
I've been there all along with you. No, no, no

(48:43):
need to check the chicks. I think I was on
an island by yourself, like Mark Daikenan was on the
Texans island going into yesterday. I think I was on
the Michael Battle definitely don't this island.

Speaker 7 (48:55):
I think you and I had the conversation before I
was out, maybe a week and a half ago. By
I didn't feel comfortable with the Colts kicker at all.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
I think most NFL fans realize this, but missing three
extra points in seven games is absolutely egregious. I don't
care if you're a starting kicker or you're a backup kicker,
and James I think not. Well, I guess we have
to because it's a conversation you actually talking about post game.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Right now.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
With Michael Badgley. You always had the distance question with him,
right If you want to make the basketball analogy, he's
not the three point shooting right, Okay, that's fine. All
the layups need to be made, and right now, three
mess extra points in seven games. To put it into
a little bit of perspective, from twenty twenty one all
the way up into Michael Badgley joining the team a
month ago, the Colts had missed two extra points in

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about one hundred and fifty attempts. You're talking one hundred
and fifty some attempts. They'd missed two. He's now missed
three h and what twenty attempts? And think about where
he's missed these kicks indoors yesterday, James, you were in Germany,
not like it was Wendy. There it was Chili, but
that was not Wendy. And the other one was in
an eighty degree game in California, where hell, it's pretty

(50:06):
much a dome. Like I don't it's the Colts need
to do the kicker try out again, which I know
that's hell, and I know no one wants to do it,
but that's a reality. Yeah, you see the kicker on Sunday.
He should not be But I don't know, Jeff, to
be honest with you, I James, I don't know if
you have a better read on the situation. I don't

(50:27):
necessarily got the vibe pre yesterday that the Colts had
a heightened, heightened whatever microscope on their kicker situation. Now,
when you miss winning a game like that and it
comes down to needing three or four at the end
of the game. Maybe that raises it to another level,
but I don't know. I just didn't get the vibe
that they were as nervous about badly as I was.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
I think after that game, Shane kind of left the
door open because I did ask him directly basically, should
you cut this guy? And the question itself was phrased
as do you have to have a conversation by the
future with your team? And in my mind, I'm thinking
the lack of the future with your team because he
shouldn't be brought back to kick for you. But he

(51:12):
was after the game saying, I gotta make the free throws.
I think that works well with the analogy. You brought
up three pointers extra fine free throws. You gotta make those.
And to.

Speaker 8 (51:26):
Further your point, Kevin Me and Chap shout.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Out to the dean Mike Chap while I was going
through this myself and double checking my work after the game.
So Michael Basley has missed three pats point after attempts,
like you said, in seven games. If you go back
over the previous five years combined for this team from
twenty twenty to twenty twenty four, they missed four combined.

(51:52):
So yeah, I am fully on board. You on the
island by yourself. You were trying to throw me a
little life raft there. You know this isn't a Titanic
made room for me. I would like to join you.

Speaker 7 (52:04):
Let's go the phone lines. It's gonna be Rose and
Jack all over again. Right, Sorry, no room on the door.

Speaker 8 (52:12):
Hey, it makes him room for you.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Boy.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
James's wrists like Kenny Moore held that whiteout risk on
that DPI phone. Let's go talk to Nick Knicks this
morning on a Monday, Nick, what are you thinking this morning?
My man?

Speaker 12 (52:24):
Well, I today I'm gonna zag. I've got I've got
sympathy for Chris Ballard. Hang with me here. So Number one,
his two biggest plays that he's made in free agency
and trades are Brinson Buckner and Soft Gardener, neither of

(52:46):
which was on the field for the last three quarters yesterday.
Number two, he if he hadn't signed Michael Pittman to
a market corrected wide receiver deal, he would have been
questioned as to what the hell he's doing. And now

(53:08):
that that JT can catch, he is Michael Pittman is
what the fifth most important targets for Daniel Jones, and
he did pick up Daniel Jones, who's having a great year. However,
I will say that the one thing that Chris Ballard

(53:30):
always depends upon is having, you know, strength of the trenches,
and the offensive line is has been terrible for a
month and a half. So I'll hang up and let
you guys respond to that.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Nick, thank you for the call. I'm not ready for
a Ballard combo, To be totally honest with you guys,
I totally understand the question. And it's a conversation that
several media members wanted to have yesterday in the press box.
And I guess I said here on the first day
of December, and where I'm torn on a big picture conversation.

(54:08):
And let's just isolate Ballard away from Styking right now.
Let's say they're not tied to the hip. We view
this as a very critical month for the Colts.

Speaker 8 (54:17):
Do we not absolutely.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
Should one month all of a sudden decide Chris Ballard's
fate nine years into his tenure. I think it depends
on this.

Speaker 7 (54:29):
It falls into the pattern of what we've seen over
the last eight nine years.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Does it just nine years versus one month, isn't that
kind of weird? But so basically, if the Colts go
three and two down the stretch, make the playoffs versus
going two and three miss the playoffs, one game difference
that is going to decide whether you keep him and

(54:56):
potentially extend him into a second day decade versus the
rest of the resume like are we again? Are we
in the post CB era?

Speaker 7 (55:08):
So here's where I come down on that. I do
think that the last four or five weeks are going
to be important because if they go two and three
and they miss the playoffs, that's once again a second
half collapse. We've seen a couple of times. It falls
into the to the decade long pattern at that point
in time. Now, if they go three and two, make

(55:29):
the playoffs and maybe win a playoff game, you probably
change the narrative altogether to.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
One game three and two versus two and three here
in the final five weeks will rewrite the narrative or
but I think we.

Speaker 7 (55:41):
Are talking about but the goal is to get to
the playoffs and win in the playoffs, right, and that's
not something they've been able to do with great frequency
during his tenure. So if he changes that narrative and
they get to the playoffs and even win one. That's
different than fading down the stretch again, right, because then
you just fall into a familiar pattern, don't you, James,

(56:04):
or do you say I don't know. Injuries and other
things out of our control led to this one. We
like what we're seeing and we've had we got something
we can build around.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Now.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
Yeah, I think I might be really Jeff on this
one when it comes to how different that one game
difference could be for you, And I think it has
to do a lot with the psychological part of it,
where you have not been able to win at this
point in the year. Your teams for whatever reason, whether
it's this year, it could be injuries, and they're legit reasons.

(56:36):
I don't want to act with their excuses. I mean,
your quarterback playing with a broken leg for better or worse,
your cornerback you trade it for who's supposed to be
you know, all world leaves the game on crutches with
a calf injury.

Speaker 8 (56:49):
Who knows when he'll be back.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
Your other cornerback, they are supposed to be all pro
ran into his tight end his teammate and knocked himself out.
So during pregame warmups. I mean, this is stuff you
can't even predict. So all that in mind, I do
think that he has kind of been tell a crazy

(57:11):
hand over the last month or so with this team.
But I mean, you could look at every single year
and say, here's why they fell short. Why can't you
find a way to finally get over the top. And
I think that's the biggest thing with Chris Baal. But
I will say after trading for Sawas Gardner, getting rid
of two first round picks and the amount of money

(57:35):
quite frankly, Spence, rebuilding your secondary, whether it's bringing in
Saveria's ward, bringing in Cambine them like the aggressiveness we saw.
All these moves, in my mind, can't be made without
the intention of bringing him back to see it through.
You brought in Daniel Jones. He has been for the
most part, a revelation for this team. Now the last

(57:56):
month has been kind of rough for the overall team
and for Daniel. He hasn't played at the level that
he was. Some of that might be the Phoebe lib
but hey, he's out there, he's got to perform. So
I just wonder again, how much can you put on
Ballard this season and how much you feel like, Okay,
well this is your ninth year, nine nine years in KB,

(58:18):
that's that's a.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
Lot of track record. And that last part James, and
again we don't need to have the conversation in more detail.
You know, the Colt's got five games left, but there's
a lot of track record in nine years, as you said,
So now it all comes down to either a two
and three or three and two final month of December.
It just it's a small sample, so it sounds crazy,

(58:40):
you know. It's like, so basically one hundred games comes
down to five, Yeah, because you had a hundred other ones,
which and a lot of people dream to have one
hundred others. What I'm saying, a lot of people that
resume don't get one hundred opportunities or however you want
to classify it. One thing too to note from just
a thought I had walking out of Lucaslo Stadium yesterday.
And certainly it will be a big storyline. And you know,

(59:01):
Nick just called in and laid out kind of some
of the overall Ballad tenure. I continue to be I
don't know if there's a bigger miss in the Ballard
overall nine years than the edge pass rush. It is
just so damn quiet and real quick. Just to clarify, weekend,
week out, year in, year out, they invest gobs and

(59:23):
gobs of picks. They invest money. The edge pass rush
is just a library quiet.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
So to your point about that, and sorry to cut
you off there. The conversation I was having with Joel A.
Erickson after the game was about the edge rushers and
really about the defensive line as a.

Speaker 8 (59:42):
Whole and how well to an extent your backups have played.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
I thought that, I think that Tommy otabare Adi, Tama
watabar A, Neville Gallimore, if you look at their numbers
this year, Kevin, they've been like really good backups. It's
your dudes that haven't performed. To your point, quit he pay?
When's the last time we said his name like in
a play that was of significance?

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Now?

Speaker 8 (01:00:07):
I mean, has it is?

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
I mean that, seriously, they got to lots to I
get that he has what the most interceptions by d
lineman and franchise history in a single season.

Speaker 8 (01:00:16):
That's great.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
Where was he yesterday? You didn't feel him at all?
And that to me, those are two first round picks
those are dudes are supposed to be playmakers.

Speaker 7 (01:00:25):
Yeah, so whether you whether you find yourself an outside
linebacker which really doesn't apply to an on auruma thing,
or an edge rusher. That's the one thing that Chris
Ballader's ever failed to deliver as a guy that can
potentially wreck a game. Who's the who's the consistent game
rerecord there? They don't have that. They don't have that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Let's check it down the morning checkdown on Nutty Sweet
five and one oh seven five.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Fank at all the game stats that you want.

Speaker 7 (01:00:54):
You can look at missed officials, calls, you can look
at all kinds of different things. But the end of
the day, James Boyd sixteen, the Texans come into Lucas
Oil steal a division win and knock the Colts out
of first place in the AFC South. What was your
immediate reaction following the game yesterday?

Speaker 8 (01:01:10):
They're in trouble. You're in big trouble.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Your schedule does not get any easier. You have still
some big division games coming up, and your offense looks
so potent earlier in the year is looking stagnant, and
you're more injured than you were leaving that game. To
going into a big injury when it comes to Sauce
Gardener and his left calf.

Speaker 7 (01:01:28):
Kevin, what do we know this morning about Sauce Gardener
and that calf injury that they've been talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
Yeah, I mean the Colts have stayed away from the
A word and not to like for the doctor's hat on,
but I do feel like an achilles usually can be
identified somewhat early. You know, he first went in the
medical tent and then went in the locker room after that.
But you know, Sauce ed Mitch yesterday, some further imagen
would be done. Shane Steichen, though, couldn't confirm that, you know,
the achilles had been totally ruled out postgame, So Shane

(01:01:56):
will chat here later this afternoon. Some reports out there, though,
of indicated a calf train and as James pointed out
earlier in the show, for Kenny Moore, the second playing
the same position at Sauce, for what it's worth, that
was a three week absence earlier in the season. So
we'll await some further clarity on that. I believe that
was the only injury from the game yesterday for the Colts.
All right, So the Colts Slews twented to sixteen. They're

(01:02:16):
now eight and four.

Speaker 7 (01:02:17):
They're in second place in the AFC South and James
that will be playing the top team in the AFC
South on Sunday in Jacksonville against the Jaguars. If ever
there's a time to get a big win in Jacksonville, this.

Speaker 10 (01:02:29):
Has got to be it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
I'm telling you right now. I know we give our
picks later in the week. I'm not picking them. I
will never pick the Colts to win in Duval County.
So they actually do it with the eyes that I
can see with. So yeah, not picking them to win.
But it was curtly what helps they did?

Speaker 7 (01:02:43):
All right, We'll find out what happens there. One more
football game this week on what has been a very
stretched out week. We had three games on Thursday for Thanksgiving,
one game that you were interested on Friday Mark for
the Bears going again, and then a bunch of games yesterday.
Last night, the Broncos won in overtime, surviving a two
point a tempt by the Commanders at the very end,
twenty seven to twenty six. Tonight it'll be the New

(01:03:04):
York Giants and the New England Patriots, a far cry
from the rematch of those Super Bowls during the Brady era,
wouldn't you Zaya or uh?

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Mark?

Speaker 9 (01:03:12):
Hey Jackson darts under center, so you never know what's
gonna happen. I guess it's a nice way to cap
off the Thanksgiving break.

Speaker 7 (01:03:17):
New England Patriots could go eleven and two after thirteen games, Kevin,
would you have even thought that possible at the beginning
of the year.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
No, not at all. And they have a bye right
They're the latest buy so they are on the bye.
By the way, that Sunday night game was wild last night.
Stayed up for that. Nelly Bone and I had a
good little three hour rack accession watch the Sunday night
football game. Crazy crazy game. Nick Benito bats down at
Marcus Mariota two point conversion there on the final play
of the game in overtime, Washington decided to go for

(01:03:45):
the win. I respect it all. Batted down the Denver
defense once again.

Speaker 8 (01:03:49):
What about frisking place?

Speaker 7 (01:03:50):
I was talking about this with Mark before the show too.
Isn't it amazing how just with regularity, the biggest stars
come up with big plays and big moments. It's crazy,
isn't it.

Speaker 9 (01:04:00):
The Colts seat of field those It's rare that Ashley's
locked in for a Sunday night game, especially a game
featuring a three and eight team, But she was locked
in yesterday. She sat down and was like, this is insane.
Thing's going on in Washington.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
Big time play. He was terrific last major, had to
scary Terry. He made shout out Terry mclahan, made him
big plays, celebration and like Denver, just continues to live by.
It's amazing. Is the worst ten and two team I've
ever seen.

Speaker 8 (01:04:26):
I know that's why it's the NFL great. Though we
have a team like this every year.

Speaker 7 (01:04:29):
I may start drinking watching that team.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 7 (01:04:32):
I was not able to fall asleep till about one
thirty in the morning last night.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
They had me up on a head Shane all right, Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:04:39):
One of seven games at Lucas Oil this past weekend
that Colts game others to win state championships there on
Friday or Saturday, Brownsburg, New pow Fort, Wayne, Bishop Dwanger, Cascade,
Andrean South putting him. I know you were watching a
lot and listened to a lot of those games Friday
and Saturday, Kevin. It was they always delivered don't they.
There's just it's so much fun watching those games.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Yea.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
I thought the Ron Collie Dwanger game specifically was straight great,
great drama down the stretch there, Colin ashen onm It's
some big plays for the Royals, and unfortunately their season
ends just on the doorstep of the goal line there.
But yeah, shout out to all of our state champions
and seemed like a great, great weekend over at Lucas Oil.
And now it'll continue with One versus Two coming up
Saturday night.

Speaker 7 (01:05:21):
All right, I you finished their football season undefeated in
the regular season, Kevin, You'll know this for the first
time in school history. They just keep climbing that mountain,
one one accomplishment after the other after the other. Next
up Ohio State and a Big Ten championship game, playing
the top ranked undefeated team in the country. The two

(01:05:43):
undefeated teams I know to date. It could get bigger, obviously,
but today a win over Ohio State on Saturday's got
to be the biggest winning program history.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
What do you asking about the line? I haven't seen
the line yet. Five and a half point favorite for
the Buckeyes. Oh, I mean, that's gonna be a home
game for AU, right home game for AU.

Speaker 8 (01:06:05):
I don't think that line might dwindle.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
Emotional hangover from the Michigan game. I mean, the Michigan
game means more to Ohio State than the Big Ten
title those to Ohio State. That's probably true, not even
probably that is true.

Speaker 7 (01:06:17):
All right, quickly in the NBA tonight, the Pacers back
at home. They'll be in the Fieldhouse beginning. It's seven
against the Cleveland Cavaliers. Airtime six thirty here at ninety
three five, one oh seven five. They've won two games
in a row.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
KB. Yeah, they held Chicago and Washington to their season
low in points. We definitely have not talked about defense
of the Pacers a whole lot over the weekend. So
very impressive. Cleveland kind of reeling. They've lost three in row.
They played last night too, so they'll get the short
end of the back to back stick, if you will. So, yes,
much better from the Pacers.

Speaker 7 (01:06:46):
Here, didn't play with They didn't have Nemhart though. Right
on Saturday night the Pacers did not have him. Yeah,
one of those nights, I forget which one. I want
to say he was out Friday and maybe play Saturday
or vice versa there. But yeah, great, great defense and
just Gracie Pascal Siakam get that moment, you know, for
the game winner on Saturday Night, Vintage Siakam so cool,
calm and collected on the play.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
I thought for a moment there he might throw it
to Matherin as the cutter of a new full. Well,
how much time he had left, got the pump fake well,
he said.

Speaker 8 (01:07:12):
That after the game, he said, I thought about passing,
was like, nah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
It would have been really close timing wise to get
that off.

Speaker 7 (01:07:19):
Other quick thing in that game in the first quarter,
Jay Huff he became a shout shooter four to three
point field goals in the first.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
Points of the game.

Speaker 8 (01:07:26):
Jay leading the league in blocks per game, I believe.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
And again he's been inserted in the starting lineup, so
that's helped I think a little bit of their defensive
cause as well.

Speaker 7 (01:07:34):
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Next Mark, get your ma on.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
As we continue in ninety three five and one to
seven five Fan.

Speaker 10 (01:07:57):
They sees a fan morning show with Chibi Shaby and Jeff.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
It's a five yard pendley from the spot of the foul.
It is a loss of down, second out.

Speaker 8 (01:08:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
The line of scrimmage is the nine.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
He threw that from about the eleven yard line. Yeah.
They're headed back to Shapiro's right now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
We're almost in my garage on the south side.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Let's see if C. J. Stroud can it figure out
how to work that gggerator.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
At the South Fountain.

Speaker 7 (01:08:28):
Great stuff for Matt Taylor and Coach Venturi all throughout
the broadcast, both in having humorous moments, ripping the officials
at the appropriate time, talking about things as they happened.
They did a fantastic job. I hope you had a
good time listening to their broadcast. If that's how you
enjoyed the game yesterday or I don't know, if you
enjoyed the game or not. The way it all turned out,
you probably enjoyed it to the last four minutes of

(01:08:49):
the game, I would think, I.

Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
Don't know, Jeff, it was rough early as well, when
they came out with three straight pass plays and went
three and out.

Speaker 8 (01:08:57):
I was thinking, boy, whom I get some booze here?

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (01:09:01):
Nobody was calling for anybody's head though, like they were
in Pittsburgh last night. Were you surprised to see the
Steelers fans now chanting fire Tomblin?

Speaker 10 (01:09:08):
No, not at all, not at all.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
I think they were teetering on that until t J.

Speaker 8 (01:09:12):
Watt.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
Honestly, so much of this cold season not to blow
number one play that t J. Watt stripsack beating Braden
Smith get into Daniel Jones.

Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
That was a.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
Potentially season changing play. It seems like ever since then
it's been a bit of a snowball down the hill
for the Colts.

Speaker 7 (01:09:30):
That one's not our problem, but it was worth noting.
Time to get to the best and worst of the week,
Mark Dyke, Then let's get to it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
Who is the goat? I bold you all that I
was afraid of of all time?

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Jordan, here's Michael at the filine.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
I shot on or goat? This guy sucks of the week.

Speaker 7 (01:10:05):
Oh, lots of places to start, lots of places to
shine a light on good and bad. Do you want
to go to the good or the bad to start
things off, Mark Colts loss, we go bad.

Speaker 9 (01:10:13):
And it's been a long time. We've been off since
after Wednesday, so there's plenty to dive into.

Speaker 7 (01:10:19):
All right, I'll start this off this week. The easy
thing is to go to the NFL officials that worked
at Colts Texans game yesterday. They made so many mistakes
that cost the Cults big time in addition to some
of the Colts mistakes of their own. But I'm not
going to go there. I'm going to go to the
big bad Bill Belichick, who finishes his first regular season
in the college ranks with a four and eight record

(01:10:40):
at North Carolina, losing big time to the rival North
Carolina State wolf Pack yesterday Saturday. They couldn't get anything going.
They're just not a very good football team. There was
also audio released the last week of one of the
wives of the sons of Bill Belichick just open ripping

(01:11:00):
Jordan Hudson and what she's doing to Bill Belichick.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
It's a disaster.

Speaker 7 (01:11:04):
It's in Chapel Hill, and I can't as a Colts fan.
Doesn't hurt my feelings at all that it's Bill Belichick.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
I feel like Jeff just gave me a rundown of
TMZ slash the shade rooms all where people in my
life get there. Mormon Wives episode right, Yeah, a lot
of drama there, certainly a good pick of the bag
go to the week. I will go with Clay Martin,
the lead official for the coldest game yesterday, for this
poor report, and I hate it. I hate all these
poor reports. Think they all stink. Basically every question that
he was asked it was, well, we thought we were right.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
So we were right.

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
It's a horrible answer. It's a horrible thing for Leed
to even give us. So I would just like a
last two minute report kind of like you've seen in
the NBA. Doesn't help anything, no, but at least you
can say you're wrong, this is stupid. This you stand
here and let them lie to your face. And also
a little insight there for those listening. The poor report,
I'll have you know, is not necessarily you just stand

(01:11:55):
there and record what they say. It's not like a
press conference with Shane Styken. You get on the phone,
you do the thing, and then they answer the question
and then you can't say anything until they give you
permission or send you a copy of what they said.
When they clean it all up so you can't even
ask them a question in the moment to get a
real reaction. They get a chance to go back and say, well,
I kind of said this, lets doctor it.

Speaker 7 (01:12:14):
Up a bit.

Speaker 8 (01:12:15):
I hate that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
Yeah, it is very stupid. I love I love the
drama surrounding this next one. But that doesn't mean he's
not the negative goat of the weekend. Lane Kiffin believing
that he should coach Old Miss in the college football playoff.
This man quit on his team hosting a home playoff game,
and he's whinting that he can't coach them in the

(01:12:36):
playoffs when he takes a job with a school that's
in their same conference. Your decisions have consequences, especially in
the portal era, especially when you're taking assistant coaches with you.
Lane Kiffin, college Football. I love the drama. It's the
scene from the airport yesterday, the kid calling him the

(01:12:58):
kicker's name for the Atlanta Falcons. Young hokup? I laugh, my,
you know what off at that college sports are not
real in the sec uh. Lane Kevin's an idiot for
thinking he should be able to coach All Missing the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
Hey, real quick, I will say though the reporter that
called him, oh, I definitely think that like you used
to be had to play hands on anybody.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
Markers as Hoe allowed to be said.

Speaker 7 (01:13:21):
We're letting it fly. Who's doing work? Oh, I'm so
sorry now as that reporter also disputes that he used
the word ho. He made the very the description was there,
but he disputes the word. No, anybody to call you that.
As a man, he should be able to put hands
on him and he have that energy at all. I
was kind of hoping I team laying on that one.

Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
Like I agree with over everything you said, Kevin, but
on that particular thing. If you call a man that
keep that same manager, you don't. We don't run on
Twitter and tell us what you would ever could have done?

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
All right?

Speaker 8 (01:13:50):
Sorry, dump that?

Speaker 7 (01:13:51):
What do you got?

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
Mark?

Speaker 9 (01:13:52):
The Minnesota Vikings are a team without a quarterback on
their roster. JJ McCarthy's been bad and injured. Carson wentz on,
I are Max Rosmer was horrific, yes, Draight, and the
only one left standing is John Woolford. They are a mess,
and it's only worse by the fact that the guy
who they let walk in free agency went to Seattle
and helped beat them yesterday in a shutout. Sam Darnold
Donald hasn't exactly lit it up. He's had nine hundred

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and thirteen yards, nineteen touchdowns and ten interceptions. But the
Vikings all four Vikings qbs have a combined for three
hundred and thirteen yards on the season, twelve touchdowns, nineteen interceptions.
Kevin asked why I was looking up Carson Wentz. That
is why the combination of Vikings quarterbacks don't have what
Sam Darnald has statistically.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
We got a quick here. Joe Burrow shout out, got
to the week, Love the pregame interview on Thursday Night Football,
explaining why he wanted to play with the Bengals still
a million games out of the playoff. Pick sure I
get a million dollar athlete, et cetera, et cetera, in
an air of load management. I know a lot of
people are quick to point the others for Joe Burrow
to got it out and play extraordinarily well on Thursday

(01:14:54):
Night Football. Love seeing that from him, So shout out
to Joe Burrow Shaw.

Speaker 4 (01:14:58):
Chris Skinner from Andriana High School. Well, he has been
a part of all four state championships for that team.
One is a player wanted an assistant, and two times
as the head coach. Shout out to my guy, coach Skinner.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
I'm going to stay in the high schools as well.

Speaker 7 (01:15:09):
Brandon Sharp two hundred and fifty all purpose first half
yards against Westfield for Brownsburg as they complete a back
to back state championship run, all of that coming in
the first half, one hundred and fifty one yards and
a touchdown receiving and a ninety nine yard kickoff return.
I also want to give a nod to Kyle Routh,
the head coach at New Palestine. They won last year

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in four They went up a division to five A
and they won that one too.

Speaker 9 (01:15:36):
Pretty impressive stuff. A year ago, the Bears fired Matt Eberflus.
Fast forward to now, Ben Johnson has the Boys at
nine and three, the best record in the NFC. He
took his shirt off in the locker room so that
Chicago gets free hot dogs tomorrow. Shout out, Ben Johnson.

Speaker 7 (01:15:51):
That's the key right there. Now, I'll get your shirt
off for free hot dogs.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
You like that, don't you, Kevin. If Eberflues would have
done that, he'd still.

Speaker 7 (01:15:58):
Be the coach, all right. That's what's happening for the
goats of the week. Here at ninety three five one
oh seven to five of the Fan, we'll talk a
little bit more about a big college football game coming
up this weekend in Indianapolis.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
That's next.

Speaker 10 (01:16:10):
They see sed a fan morning show with KB, JB
and Jeff.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
You know, you go back to work.

Speaker 6 (01:16:16):
I think, you know, putting your head down and focusing
on what we need to do to improve. I think
everybody taking accountability and ownership of of what we need
to do, and certainly I play a big role in now.

Speaker 8 (01:16:28):
So for me, it's it's, you.

Speaker 6 (01:16:30):
Know, putting your head down and going back to work
and making sure that I'm doing everything I need to
do to put the team in a position to wing games.

Speaker 7 (01:16:38):
It's Daniel Jones, quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts. They've all
of a sudden, lost three of their last four Kevin Bowen,
and now they've got what is considered to be the
toughest schedule in the NFL over their final few weeks
of the season.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
It's gonna be tough, but it's also an opportunity here
you go, sure, I mean at the start of the year,
you would have said, hey, eight and four December first,
and you know, whatever tied atop the AFC South, yeah,
you would sign up for it. But living in the
reality of where you're at right now, it's a team
that is definitely really and you know, you look the
next two weeks. I think that's why yesterday it was

(01:17:11):
so important. It was at home. You had been a
great home team all season long, first home loss of
the year. You had scored what I think it was
at least twenty nine I believe, in every home game
this season. And now you're at Jacksonville and at Seattle
the next two weeks. So and you know, you close
out that you're at Houston, and you know it's not
impossible by any means, but you've lost your grip on

(01:17:34):
the AFC South, You've lost from playing ahead, and now
it's really anyone's guess as to who is going to
win this division and if it starts to continue to
go down the path that it is right now, I mean,
you could miss the playoffs, which is just kind of
wild to think where you were at entering that Pittsburgh game.

Speaker 7 (01:17:50):
Now I speak of playoffs college football, the playoffs were
several weeks away, but We've got conference championship games all
over the country this weekend, including one couple of blocks
away at Lucas Oils Indiana taking on Ohio State. Kevin,
you had mentioned earlier that right now Ohio State's a
five and a half point favorite. But if you go
to the ESPN dot com analytics page right now, their

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computer models give Indiana a fifty point six percent chance
of winning that football game, So by six tenths of
one percent, they're the favorite according to the analytics.

Speaker 8 (01:18:21):
So you're telling me there's a chance, Oh.

Speaker 7 (01:18:23):
Yeah, big chance. I like the way is playing right now, speed, physicality.
I can't wait to see them go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
I mean, I do mean this in all seriousness. Indiana
will have more fans in that building. I think it
will be a rockets environment for the Cream and Crimson.
It's honestly a Saturday you dream of. I think as
a sports fan to have your basketball team playing at
Gambridgefield House at two o'clock and then you get the
nice two three hour break to do whatever you would like,
and then you head on over to Lukasolo Stadium for

(01:18:53):
your team doing something they've never even never even thought
was realistically possible. In terms of your football program. And
I also think Ohio State, I do think there could
be a real emotional hangover from the Michigan game. Everything
has invested into that game for their program, and you know,
Ryan Day's been pretty outspoken all year long about you know,

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it's a grind going on a playoff run. And you know,
at the end of the day, the Big Ten championship
only means so much to a program like Ohio State.
I mean, that's just reality. It means a world of
difference Indiana than it does to Ohio State. And if
Carnel Tate or Jeremiah Smith, who've had nicked up injuries,
if they get a little banged up there, you know

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you're not going to push it, right, I mean, you'd
be ludicrous too.

Speaker 7 (01:19:39):
I am so happy for our friend Don Fisher. You
want to talk about kind of a bucketless day for
an announcer, a guy who's seen everything basketball football for
Indiana over the incredible career that he has had to
get the idea to get the chance to call a Louisville,
Indiana game at the Fieldhouse in the noon, go a

(01:20:01):
couple of blocks west later that night and do a
Big Ten championship game with an undefeated Indiana team taking
on an undefeated Ohio State team. Like as a as
a broadcaster, that's a dream day, right there, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
I love it for him. I know we played so
many Fish highlights throughout the year, and you know his
conversations so with Jake or with John are always must
listen to each week. So just an awesome Saturday Ford
And one thing to point out from the Bucket game
on Friday night. You know when Fernana Medoza is having
a little bit of struggle early in that game, I
would argue one of the most consistent aspects in Indiana

(01:20:34):
all season long, and something I and probably I'll say
we have not given enough credit to their run game
is elite Roman hemb ripping off the big one on
Friday Night. I mean, they can run the football and
they had a huge injury early in the year in
that backfield there, so their ability to run it I
think has really helped, you know, keep that offense as

(01:20:57):
you know, potently balanced as they have. And again when
you have a first quarter where I mean, hell and
those have got away with a couple Frankly throws there,
you're still able to, you know, play from ahead, and
you're able to rely on that ground game. So any
sort of win on Saturday night or playoff run, I
think we'll certainly have to lean on that run game,
all right.

Speaker 7 (01:21:17):
Coming up in a moment back to the Colts. Will
take your phone calls and your texts at two three
nine ten seventy. We'll get to the text line in
a big way for the first time today. A lot
of interesting comments on there. We'll do that. Still time
to get into three nine ten seventy. It's the Fan
Morning show on a Monday here at ninety three five
and one oh seven.

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
Five Fan.

Speaker 7 (01:21:35):
Oh, that's the tale of the tape for the Indianapolis
Colts yesterday, a twenty to sixteen loss at home to
the Houston Texans. That's three of their last four that
they've gone on the wrong side of the ledger, and
they got the toughest schedule in the NFL coming up
over the final five weeks on a scale of one
to one hundred. Kevin Bowen, what is your panic meter
for the Indianapolis Colts right now?

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
Six seven kids cringing everywhere right now? What about you,
James Boyd.

Speaker 4 (01:22:03):
I'm disgusted by you. Man, I'm disgusted that you said
that was good.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
Jeff, that might have been my lowest moment in the
show's history. Well, both of you all, I can hand
you a cane right now, mark my final hour. Yeah, please, Rocks,
I do that now just to intentionally drive my kids
nuts and make them cringe, and honestly might even be
higher than sixty seven in all honesty here c J
Stroud three and oh inside of Lucosol Stadium.

Speaker 8 (01:22:27):
Man Nico Collins also seems to always have a game
against them.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
Nicole Collins is starting to do a little t Y
Hilton just the reverse of a good way to play
it on a run yesterday. Yeah, and I mean every
time it seemed like they needed a big play in
the passing game, he made it too. So yeah, I
would say, in all serious since Jeff one to one hundred,
it's uh, I'd say, north to seventy, James, north of seventy.

Speaker 8 (01:22:47):
Oh, okay, okay, where are you at?

Speaker 4 (01:22:49):
I mean you got you got two straight on the road,
That's where I I Yeah, No, I'm with you, I'm
with you.

Speaker 13 (01:22:54):
You.

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
I would probably I'll put it in like seventy three.
I'm thinking of like temperatures.

Speaker 8 (01:23:01):
It's a little warm, little toasty right now for the Colts,
and things are heating up.

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
For sure.

Speaker 8 (01:23:06):
From a bad standpoint, you definitely want to try to
get one of the next two. Fourth sure, just looking
at you know how things can shake out for you.

Speaker 4 (01:23:13):
And obviously the big one is the next week because
it is a division game where you just have him won.
I was looking this up, Kevin. Reggie Wayne is forty seven.
He played in the game that the Colts last won
in Duval County. It was actually a factor. I think
you have four or five catches.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
At Colton Roldham, right, Andrew.

Speaker 4 (01:23:31):
Andrew Luck was in his third season, which seems like
a lifetime ago. Andrew Luck is now leading a college
football program as its general manager, I believe. And then
you have again Reggie Wayne, who's what in his fourth
year I believe, as a wide receivers coach. So it's
been quite a while since they've won down there in Jacksonville.

Speaker 7 (01:23:52):
That wide receiver course done pretty well though. And we
got a text here from Matt C that I know
you responded to Kevin that said, kbs, anyone proved they
need re signed more this year than than Alec Pearson,
and I think.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
You agree with that.

Speaker 7 (01:24:05):
But he has really developed into I think a number
one ride receiver, you know what, Michael Pittman, and he's
he's dependable. I know Josh Downs had a drop yesterday,
but he's been making some big catches for the most part.
What are you worried most about coming back up that injury.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
That he was out for a couple of weeks there?

Speaker 8 (01:24:23):
Who was injury?

Speaker 7 (01:24:24):
Didn't Josh Downs miss a week with injury?

Speaker 4 (01:24:27):
No, No, I don't believe that that's a game I
have missed this, Jeff. No, I'm being Yeah, I don't
think that he's had all that great of a year. Yeah,
I mean, I honest with you, Yeah, I would agree.
Yesterday was a weird Downs game. You know, he had
a couple of massive drops and then on that one

(01:24:48):
drive there in the what third quarter, I mean, he
had some catches that were just insane. I was shocked
to Mika Ryans didn't challenged the one on their sideline. Yeah,
I just thought that was an automatic challenge. Is a
huge play on a third down.

Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
Another one he had negated by that Bernard Ryman holding penalty,
But yeah, James, I mean, think about the drop on
third and whatever that was nine. You know, you probably
get what's seven or eight there, and you set up
fourth and two. That's a whole lot different than having
to convert there on fourth and nine. That could have
been the difference in the game. So yeah, Downs. You know,
the Tyler Warren arrival we thought would kind of limit

(01:25:21):
some of his opportunities, but there's probably been a few
too many of just those drops. Like I'm used to
Jonathan Taylor dropping the football, that to me is not
a surprise when it happens, But part of me wants
Josh Downs to go back to wearing jersey number one.
Now it'saus Gardner is out for a few weeks. Yeah,
my bad, I'm sorry.

Speaker 8 (01:25:37):
No, you're fine.

Speaker 4 (01:25:38):
Josh actually did miss a game earlier this year, back
in Week seven. But nevertheless, Yeah, I know that his
catches are going to get cut into because of the
addition of Tyler Warren, but I think when the moment
has kind of come to him, he's not been as
sure handed as he has been a years past. So
we will see how he kind of bounces back Riesay's

(01:25:59):
performance and get a chance to talk to him after
the game. At least I didn't get a chance to
talk to many others did. We're looking forward to catching
up with him this week, just kind of see where
his head's at, because he knows like anybody else that
he has to deliver in those moments and he didn't
and we're so used to him doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
Yeah, and again, like I trust Josh Downs. I want
to be very clear, like I I guess I'm surprised
by it, to be honest with because he I think
has proven to be a pretty trustworthy player and there's
still a lot of good there. I mean, you know,
he had one of his patented Downs plays yesterday, a
ball throwing short of the sticks, he catches it, breaks
the tackle, turns it into a first down. So you know,

(01:26:33):
the Colts need him right now because I think one
thing we're starting to see, unless it's the deep shot
to Pierce, I think it's a lot underneath with this
passing game right now. And how many times did you
feel like Houston suffocated those routes yesterday Jalen Petrie, Kaylen Bullock,
Derek Stingley when they Yeah, Pittman had what one catch?

(01:26:54):
Two catches? I mean a very quiet day from him.
So I think that's some of the blueprint that's starting
to develop. And Daniel Jones would never tell us this,
but I don't think he totally trusts himself right now
to hang in the pocket for a while. I think
now now he got rid of it quick, you could
get once again. I get, well, that's the right thing
to do right now. I get with your injury and
probably with facing that pass rush. But jet to your

(01:27:17):
point again, I wrote it I felt a little weird yesterday,
necessarily right, and it was one of my five takeaways.
But I thought Pierce just impressed me that much, and
one of them was I think Ale Pearce is unquestionably
you're number one white out right now.

Speaker 7 (01:27:29):
Yeah, mo Tech sim A two through nine, ten seventy.
And this goes back to a conversation we were having
in the last hour, Kevin. He says, Colt's big problem
never goes away, finish the process. It's been an ongoing
thing since Luck left. Not sure what this is attributed to,
but has not left the Ballard era. And if they
go two and three and missed the playoffs in these

(01:27:50):
last five weeks, that's just another season in the last
decade where there was some hope and it goes away
seasons where there wasn't any hope. But man, we've had
way too many where they're fighting for it, they're right
there and it just doesn't happen.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
Yeah, and again, we had this conversation a lot hour ago.
I don't necessarily want to delve back into it, but
I guess, just because the questions asked, we'll go back
there for a brief moment here, you know, on the
Ballard front, just to kind of summarize my thoughts. How
much does a half a season of good football race

(01:28:29):
nine years of mediocre football? That's the ballad question I
think we have right here. And again we'll see how
the final month plays out, but that's the question. How
much does a half a season override overrule nine years
of purgatory? Lots of kicker questions this week too, And man,

(01:28:53):
you got any thoughts on that?

Speaker 8 (01:28:53):
It looked like you not necessarily. I think that.

Speaker 4 (01:28:58):
When it comes to ballot people were losing their minds
on our YouTube, chatting on text line. It's like, how
could you say ballets gonna get another year after this?
All I'm saying is with the amount of decisions that
he's made and the magnitude that he's made.

Speaker 8 (01:29:13):
Them with, it is hard for me to see them
moving on from after this year.

Speaker 4 (01:29:17):
He's acted like a guy that you've given him that power.
He gave away your next two first round picks.

Speaker 7 (01:29:24):
He more than likely trade if he felt good about it, right, Yes, and.

Speaker 4 (01:29:29):
So and then again at the time everyone was seeing
his praises. Every move that he had made up until
that point seemed like it was money. You brought in
cam Binam. He's been a difference maker this year. You
brought in Daniel Jones for all the issues he's kind
of had, even with the leg. You went from having
the quarterback with the worst completing percentage in the league
to the quarterback who, last time I checked, was on
pace to have the best compe of percentage in franchise history.

Speaker 8 (01:29:52):
So that's a point for him.

Speaker 4 (01:29:54):
So I don't want to be like a Chris ballad apologist,
but I do want to give some context here to
just the reality of usually when you let gems make
those decisions, they're not getting booted out the door.

Speaker 8 (01:30:04):
After that season, he made moves.

Speaker 9 (01:30:05):
Like a guy that has job security.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
Yeah, one uh, or a guy that made moves thinking, hey,
this better work out. It could could go either.

Speaker 9 (01:30:13):
Way, by I ain't signing off on that. If they're like,
I don't know, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:30:17):
One quick thing on cam buying them yesterday is in
zone dance.

Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
One of the funnier things I saw yesterday. Zaire Franklin
wanted to participate, but it looked like it was wasn't
quite sure.

Speaker 7 (01:30:26):
What the moves were.

Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
Did you notice that chips yesterday?

Speaker 10 (01:30:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
It was it Steve her Yeah, Shadow or cam buying
them For that, It's like me.

Speaker 9 (01:30:35):
At the dance floor of a wedding like, wait, what
what move is electric?

Speaker 8 (01:30:39):
Slow down? I can't That's why I love the uh
the left foot? Yeah, what's the other one?

Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
To keep it?

Speaker 8 (01:30:45):
Shuffle?

Speaker 4 (01:30:46):
They give you the directions in the song. That's that's
the word I actually did. I posted on my Twitter
and on my TikTok. I did a couple of TikTok
dances with my god daughter over the Thanksgiving break and
boy it is hard. She was coaching me up and
I should have I should have the background, like the
behind the scenes, because she was like, you know, Joe Jackson,
and I'm Michael Jackson, but you gotta get it together,

(01:31:07):
and to me it's so hard. They get it so quickly,
but there's no directions. It's just like watch this thing
two times and you should know how to do it.
But like the soldier boy, I feel like, you know,
I kind of it's intuitive.

Speaker 8 (01:31:19):
I learned how to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:20):
It was fine.

Speaker 8 (01:31:21):
Like the dances now are all hard, so never less.
I'm on a tangent.

Speaker 4 (01:31:24):
But getting back to the point here, Yeah, I think
the celebration for cam Binam was great, but not enough
obviously in a close game yesterday, the close loss and Mark.
I don't know if you have the audio from Sauce
of him talking about his calf injury, but I thought
it was very interesting to just hear from him. There

(01:31:45):
was a part in there Mark where I asked him
do you think you avoided an achilles injury? And the
response gave was very unique.

Speaker 3 (01:31:56):
It's just fun. I think it's like a strange I think,
did you fear the worst when you go down? Oh?
Not for real?

Speaker 13 (01:32:05):
Or I gotta be a shot in the cafe. But
it was like high it wasn't. I wasn't fearing I
wouldn't thinking.

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
That there were s so you know you said it
was high gets higher in the cafe.

Speaker 13 (01:32:15):
Yeah, I don't think it's like because it's an achilles realize,
So so you have to go and get the scans.

Speaker 3 (01:32:21):
Yeah, I think I'm going to that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:23):
Yeah. I guess what's going through your mind when you're
walking at one point or getting blocked and you're going
off the field and you got need some help to
get back there.

Speaker 3 (01:32:32):
Oh, you know, just wish I could be out there.

Speaker 8 (01:32:35):
Kind of enormous stuff from him?

Speaker 12 (01:32:37):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (01:32:38):
Once would you think that your unit performed?

Speaker 13 (01:32:40):
Like? Uh? I wasn't able to watch them much after
the keep, but it was like hard to like be
so in tuned cause I kept thinking.

Speaker 3 (01:32:51):
About this like you said, So I really just watched
the tails.

Speaker 8 (01:32:55):
To end the Did you avoid an achilles injury? Or
is that something you have to find out later?

Speaker 5 (01:33:02):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (01:33:03):
I wouldn't just say like the void like you know,
God got playing baby, So I don't think that's who
it is.

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
But that's all I got.

Speaker 8 (01:33:13):
You know, It's just slow me down a little bit,
like for greater.

Speaker 3 (01:33:17):
Reason you were standing there. What was your takeaway from
all that?

Speaker 8 (01:33:22):
What does that mean? Does anybody know what that means
that was all God.

Speaker 3 (01:33:28):
He says, I don't think it is.

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
But did you avoid an Achilles' injury? I wouldn't say avoid.
I would say that God is a plan for me.
That means nothing.

Speaker 8 (01:33:40):
So and I'm saying he should have all the answer right.

Speaker 3 (01:33:42):
Earlier he said it wasn't didn't feel like it was
the Achilles Earlier he said that.

Speaker 4 (01:33:46):
But he also I got shot in my calf. So
a lot of double talk there, Kevin in regards to
sauces calf. And again, I'm not saying that he should
have every answer after a game. I just thought that
it was a weird interview that didn't really I left
it having more questions than going into it, if that

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makes sense.

Speaker 10 (01:34:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:34:09):
Yeah, it was hard to get a lot of clarity obviously.
You know, it sounds like some further imaging. You know,
initial reports indicate not the old a Ward. Of course,
you know, Kenny Moore, the second miss is three games
earlier in the season with a calf injury, and then
you know the Tyres Aliburton one brings up plenty of
angst in our market for that. You know, obviously, if
it was an achilles, I mean, you want to talk

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about just horrific. I mean on so many levels, because
you know it's December first, you know, you tear your
achilles at this point of the season. It's next year too,
it's next year, and you know obviously it's the first
round pick in twenty twenty six, in a first round
pick in twenty twenty seven. There, So he definitely was
moving really slow with that boot on the sideline, Not
that anyone's moving fast, but like I think they actually

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gave him walking crutches. It looked like in the second
half he.

Speaker 4 (01:34:55):
Used those to leave the locker room last night as well.
And I guess this is is more just having covered
sports for years now. Assuming it isn't an achilles, I
would probably lean towards that it could still be a
pretty significant injury. But whenever I've been around any athletes
for their achilles, like, the reaction is pretty in your

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face right then and there, and then once you kind
of get the full scope of it, it's hard for
you to kind of look at the present, Like the
guy was back out there on the sideline tapping up
trainers and talking to his teammates.

Speaker 8 (01:35:31):
Well, I was still playing. He's in a boot.

Speaker 4 (01:35:33):
I get that it's not an ideal situation, but I
mean most guys and women as well, who tear their achilles,
you're not usually gonna be that engaged in the moment
for the cause you're thinking about your career, your future,
all the above.

Speaker 3 (01:35:47):
Yeah, and yeah, I know we talked about this a
little bit earlier, and it's part of life playing cornerback,
especially in the NFL, because when you are a step slow,
it's noticed big time. And I think right now Mooney
Ward has been a step slow since he's come back
from what was just an awful, awful concussion, and I

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even think the sticky ness that we're so used to,
and he's had an unbelievable career. From Kenny Moore, the
second hasn't been as glued to defenders as we're used to.
So those two guys are going to be needed in big,
big ways. I mean now this week, but next week
you face the top white out in the entire NFL
this season and Jackson Smith and Jigbass. So you need

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more right now from Mooney Ward and I think a
little bit from Kenny Moore saying both guys have battled
injuries this season, of course, and both of them are
getting up there in age, and when you play the
cornerback position, that's always something that you can't totally ignore.
But the Cults really need it right now because we
know the Forest Buckner's absence will be at least one
more game.

Speaker 7 (01:36:49):
That's the state of the Cults right now is they've
got five games remaining. They're eight and four. They are
no longer in first place in the AFC South. Right now,
they are trailing Jacksonville by a tiebreaker. That can take
it all back in Jacksonville this weekend, or they could
fall further behind. So we'll talk about that all week long.
In the meantime, let's get you caught up today with
everything else you need to know heading into your Monday

(01:37:10):
the morning checkdown on ninety three five and one oh
seven five the Fan.

Speaker 3 (01:37:15):
I've been talking about it a lot morning along.

Speaker 7 (01:37:16):
Colts lose to the Texans twenty sixteen, less than twenty
four hours ago over at Lucas Oil Stadium. I know
you do your five things learn, Kevin. What was the
biggest takeaway from yesterday?

Speaker 3 (01:37:26):
Well, good on good going into the game, and they're
good was better than your good. The Houston defense, I
think what was particularly disappointing about the loss. Obviously a
loss given the Sandinges kind of speaks to herself. But
they only had one sack of Daniel Jones. And like,
if you were to tell me that Texans are going
to beat the Colts on their home field, I would
have said, well, you know what they do, sack Jones

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three or four times. One of them is strip sack.
You know, one of them turns into points. And Houston
didn't really get any of that, yet they still were
able to, you know, beat you. I think that is
another frustrating element to the game.

Speaker 7 (01:38:00):
I will say this not to make excuses, but a
series of official decisions in the first minute of the
fourth quarter didn't help the Colts at all.

Speaker 3 (01:38:08):
James Boyd a series of decisions.

Speaker 4 (01:38:11):
Yeah, missed the delay of game on third and fifteen.
There the Kenny Moore the second.

Speaker 3 (01:38:18):
Botched extra point.

Speaker 4 (01:38:19):
Yeah, they came, but the defensive passion appearance off is
called the game. And then obviously, like you said that,
I don't know what happened on the extra point, but yeah,
they have to be better and that goes for I
think a lot of the competition around the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:38:32):
Right now, I got some thoughts on that. I want
to get to on the other side.

Speaker 7 (01:38:35):
All right, we'll do that. Coming up in a moment.
The Cults will play again Sunday in Jacksonville against a
red hot Jaguars team.

Speaker 3 (01:38:42):
All of a sudden, you got surprised the Cults are favored.

Speaker 8 (01:38:45):
Yes, I'm definitely surprised.

Speaker 7 (01:38:47):
I think a lot of people just don't quite yet
believe in what Jacksonville's doing.

Speaker 8 (01:38:52):
Those people don't know what happens down there in jackson.

Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
Give me, give me, give me the heb GBI's there.
I don't do that, Leam Cohen seems to be doing
pretty good job down there. Yeah, all right, so.

Speaker 7 (01:39:03):
That will come your way on Sunday. We'll talk about
it all week long. Meanwhile, in the NFL one game
remaining tonight, it'll be the New York Giants taken on
the New England Patriots, and the Patriots with a win there,
they go to eleven and two, they start to get
a little bit of a stranglehold on that number one seed.

Speaker 8 (01:39:17):
Is there by week this week? Definitely, they've been playing forever.

Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
Yeah, yeah, they have the final by and Denver did
win last night, so New England still needs to win,
just to keep pace from a one seed standpoint there,
But yeah, New England can go to eleven to two
and not that. Again, the Colts have much bigger problems
than this, But Yesterday's lost probably the nail on the
coffin for anybody thinking one seed for the Colts this year. Now,
I mentioned Mark that the New York Jets beat the

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Atlanta Falcons yesterday twenty seven to twenty four, and why
maybe the Jets came up with a victory.

Speaker 9 (01:39:46):
In that game that was strong? I mean, you were Prometheus,
you had a vision. It took a long time to
get there. But Ady Mitchell finally shows up for a
game and has a hell of a night.

Speaker 3 (01:39:57):
So does this mean Jeff was right?

Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:40:00):
Yet he needs to do this on a consistent Yeah,
we know he's got it. I think we got for
real for real though. I think we'd all agreed that
the talent is there to do this, but he just
needs to do to it consistently, right right.

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
The idiotic nature of the comment was more to do
with Adie Mitchell a Colt's uniform. Given the depth chick
I was let's.

Speaker 7 (01:40:20):
Go, he was all go to New York. All I
know is from a talent perspective, he was the best
wide receiver in camp. From my talent perspective, I was.

Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
Happy to see Adie Mitchell get the en zone yesterday.
I think he's a pretty good kid. I know a
lot of people probably have he's a good dude. He
really is a good dude. Yeah, people kind of written
him all, you know, whatever however people view him. But
it was nice to see him getting the end zone.
I was glad that it was a catch that pretty
much got him into the end zone. He didn't have
to think about crossing the goal line too too much

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with that there. But yeah, big day for Adie Mitchell
and a Jets win.

Speaker 7 (01:40:52):
All right, college football over the weekend Indiana, no problem,
Matt Purdue on Friday night, fifty six to three.

Speaker 12 (01:40:58):
There.

Speaker 7 (01:40:58):
They move on to the Big Ten Championship game this
coming Saturday at Lucas Oil Stadium against the Ohio State Buckeyes.
Right now, James Boyd, the Buckeyes are five and a
half point favorites in this one.

Speaker 8 (01:41:09):
I think that line might get a little tighter.

Speaker 3 (01:41:11):
How much ticket a ticket? If you want to get
one today, Kevin, I think got four hundred bucks with
the cheapest mark. You kind of doubled that with the
Colts game. You said that same ticket would be what.

Speaker 9 (01:41:20):
Same section with six oh six four hundred to get
you in for Big Ten Championship for the same section
for Colts Niners in a few weeks one to sixty.

Speaker 3 (01:41:29):
Okay, Yeah, you go back the last ten years. Obviously
a Super Bowl and you know the Peyton Maning return
game in twenty thirteen. You go back in the last
ten years. I'd say this is one of the hardest
football tickets period that stadium has had. Obviously National title
Alabama Georgia was quite the scene, but should be an unbelievable,

(01:41:50):
unbelievable weekend coming up Saturday for IU fans. IU fans,
you've dreamed of this. Purdue fans stick to the suburbs
this weekend.

Speaker 7 (01:41:59):
Also in college football, Notre Dame makes their final case
for the College Football Playoff Committee. They get a forty
nine to twenty victory on the road again Stanford, Kevin.
I think we all agree here that Notre Dame should
be in question is if they do get in, where
would their seed because they don't get a comfortable game.

Speaker 3 (01:42:16):
I can't be greedy and worry too much about the seed.
I think they're going to sweat it out a little
bit here. But yeah, you know, Saturday night for those
that went to bed Jeremiah Love, I think the Heisman
campaign probably died once he got hurt for the first
series there. He came back and really wasn't very effective
the rest of the game. But yeah, Notre Dame's going
to Texas Tech BYU That's a big game for Notre
Dame this weekend. I think they need Texas Tech. And

(01:42:38):
we'll see what the rankings look like coming up tomorrow night.
One thing to point out about the selection committee, there
are I believe four former college football coaches on the committee.
Why do they have college football coaches on the committee?
Eyeball test use their eyes, and I think I'm not

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being a biased Notre Dame fan to say right now
Notre Dame is one of the teams that deserves the
playoff spot based off the eyes. And honestly, computer metrics
are also on Notre Dame side, but just based off
the You have the football coaches on there for a reason,
not to break down schedule strength, not to break down
you know this analytic to say, hey, you watched that
team last night. Are they one of the best ten
or eleven teams in the nation.

Speaker 4 (01:43:19):
Do we have any ads from you know, SEC schools
or something like that sitting in this year.

Speaker 8 (01:43:23):
Well, it wasn't that work.

Speaker 3 (01:43:25):
The new chair is Arkansas, right, didn't the Baylor guy
have to leave the Arkansas guy? So is the Arkansas
guy going to be clamoring for Texas and Vanderbilt.

Speaker 7 (01:43:33):
Well, one of things that will be interesting too this
weekend in the conference championship game. If Duke somehow wins
the conference championship game for the ACC, did.

Speaker 8 (01:43:41):
They even get into the playoff?

Speaker 3 (01:43:42):
Yeah, So it's kind of weird how that is making
it more to this tomorrow. But the automatic burse go
to the four highest ranked conference champions and that includes
the highest ranked group of five, which I think there
are some computer tricks out there that indicate James Madison

(01:44:03):
would be more highly higher ranked than Duke if Duke
were to win. So the ACC if Miami doesn't get in,
would get shut out if Duke wor to beat Virginia. Again,
that's not a guarantee.

Speaker 7 (01:44:15):
That would be good for Notre Dame too though, right, I.

Speaker 3 (01:44:19):
Mean Notre Dame plays a lot of ACC teams, so
probably not great. The ACC isn't very vaunted, but yes,
Notre Dame obviously doesn't want Miami to get in all right.

Speaker 7 (01:44:27):
Also, Division two playoffs over the weekend, Indianapolis losing the
Minnesota State thirty five twenty seven. A. Hanover was defeated
by North Central Illinois thirty eight to six. But good
news for DePaul they got to win on the road
at UW. Whitewater, which is an accomplishment in and of
itself in Division three, and they will now be playing
this coming weekend against Wheaton at home.

Speaker 3 (01:44:48):
That'll be a noon game on Saturday.

Speaker 7 (01:44:50):
Also in the NAIA ranks, Marion will play in West
Palm Beach, Florida against Kaiser for their first playoff game
in the NAIA. So local school's doing fairly well at
all levels so far. Later on tonight, Fieldhouse, it'll be
the Indiana Pacers hosting the Cleveland Cavaliers. That one set
the tip off just after seven o'clock. We'll have the
pregame for you beginning at six thirty. Here at ninety

(01:45:11):
three five and one seventy five. The fan looking forward
to a little NBA basketball. See if the Pacers can
win three games in a row. James putting together a
little bit of a mini streak here.

Speaker 12 (01:45:22):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (01:45:23):
Well, I believe it was Benict Matherin over a little
while back say, how come we can't run off ten straight?
Well you got two, so keep building.

Speaker 3 (01:45:30):
Cleveland will be on back to back tonight and they
have lost three in a row. So if the Pacers
can pull off that upset some things in the direction
and shout out to Zach Edy, banged up at the
start of the season from Memphis. He produced a stat
line last night of thirty two points, seventeen rebounds and
five blocks. Saw a note where no NBA player has

(01:45:52):
done that since one Shakielle O'Neill in nineteen ninety nine.
So quote Jimmer say, that's rare air from Zach Edi.

Speaker 7 (01:46:01):
Keep that going on here, have a lot of insurance
commercials coming up in his future. He has insurance commercials,
No I said, he keeps it up.

Speaker 3 (01:46:08):
Oh, like Shack, you'll have a bunch of insurance right.

Speaker 9 (01:46:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:46:11):
It shows you where my brain is coming up in.

Speaker 7 (01:46:14):
A moment to we'll get back to some of your
comments as well as we break down the dudes and
the dots. I think we have headlines for the weekend
coming up, do we not, Mark Dykton, let us know
how you think the cults should be. I don't know,
immortalized for that game yesterday at Lucas Oil Stadium. I'm
trying to be nice here, James. We'll do it next
in ninety three.

Speaker 3 (01:46:34):
Five seven the Fan.

Speaker 10 (01:46:39):
He sees a fan morning show with KB, JB and Jeff.

Speaker 5 (01:46:44):
I think every week urgency whether your whatever your record is,
but especially in division games. You gotta have a ton
of urgency in division games. And so now we're sending
it to in one of the division with another the
division opponent on the road.

Speaker 3 (01:46:55):
You know that we got to get ready for.

Speaker 7 (01:47:01):
It's a tough way to in a holiday weekend. You
lose twenty to sixteen at home to the Houston Texans,
a division and opponent, and you get yourself knocked out
of first place in the AFC South. And then you
wake up on Monday morning and it's twenty two degrees
and icy roads and gray skies and wind.

Speaker 3 (01:47:16):
How about that? That's just not right.

Speaker 8 (01:47:19):
I'm good with as long as we don't have any snow.
I don't know. People love the snow.

Speaker 4 (01:47:23):
And if I could make it so it only snowed
on Christmas and it looked all fluffy and beautiful and
it was gone the next day, I would. But if
the consequence of me getting cold is also snow, I
don't like it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:37):
Do you have an officiating gripe? Can I get off
my chest? Yes?

Speaker 8 (01:47:40):
All right, mister grinch have at it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:42):
Lots of discourse about the officials yesterday and the Colts game.
I've largely part of my sports fandom. I've largely accepted officiating.
I'm not one that's just like a huge you know
my team. You know again, if I wanted to right now.

Speaker 8 (01:47:56):
It's rigged.

Speaker 3 (01:47:57):
All of it is rigged. Go back to the Notre
Dame in TEXTA.

Speaker 10 (01:47:59):
A and mgame.

Speaker 3 (01:48:00):
One of the most blatant holding penalties you'll ever see
on fourth and goal doesn't get called, Like I'm not
if Notre Dame has making the playoffs coming, if Notre
Dame doesn't make the playoff coming up here on Sunday,
I will not be griping about that. A commis I think,
with gray area in judgment calls, you just have to
accept it. Like that is one that I what do

(01:48:21):
they do about passing interference penalty. I don't know how
to make a better call. I don't know how to
make passing apference more black and white. What you can
make black and white is delay a game. And that's
where my biggest gripe comes back to. Yesterday it was
a delay a game penalty on the passing afferance penalty.
They ended up being called on kennymore than the second.
So for me, we need the light around the delay

(01:48:44):
of game clock. The play clock. You got it on
each end of the field, just like a shot clock
in basketball. Light it up. Have each little official that
has a little buzzer on them when it buzzes. Five
yard penalty. To me, I don't get why there's this
unwritten rule of Hey, if you look down in it,
you know, if it says zero, and then you look

(01:49:06):
back up and the ball still hasn't been snapped yet,
we let these plays go because there's like three or
four plays every game where the clock's at zero, that's true,
and we let the ball be snapped. Why why is
the NFL allowed for this? You know, I saw a
little conversation earlier. There's not tense of a second on
the play clock. Okay, well, then put tense of a second.

(01:49:27):
I was going to throw that out there, the play clock.
But my biggest thing is more than anything, just like
a shot clock in basketball, light buzzer, ball snapped or
it's not whatever, Like there's forty seconds on a play
easily reviewed forty one exactly, then it's black and white.
And that's James. That's what I said Joel a Rickson
when he walked down to chat with us during the game.
To go back to this conversation and let fans a

(01:49:49):
little bit, you know, behind the curtain, if you will.
The two minute report in the NBA is pretty well document.
I think fans realized the day after a game. The
NBA releases these calls no matter what happens in the game.
They released too many. You don't have to go ask
for it right, good, bad?

Speaker 6 (01:50:04):
What do they miss?

Speaker 3 (01:50:04):
What did they get right? Et cetera, et cetera. For
the NFL, they have a pool report, so for the
home team, one media member is able to assemble questions
and ask the head official those questions. Now the merit
of how that's done, James, I'll let you get to
But when Joel walked down to chat with us. I
said to Joel, I go, I'm pretty sure you're not

(01:50:25):
allowed to review delay of game, but will you ask that,
because for me, that's black and white. That is either
a yes or no. Did the ball go over the
goalpost that's a judgment call. Did Kenny Moore grab the
guy's arm, that's a judgment call. Were they bad judgment calls? Yes,
but they're judgment calls. We have to live with some

(01:50:46):
of that. That's just how sports are. Delay a game.
To me, that's that is a numerical clock value. That's
either yes or no. So that's what I said to James,
or that's what I said to Joel James and he
asked it. And of course it's not revealable.

Speaker 8 (01:51:00):
Well. Two things. One, that hat is elite. I'm looking
at it.

Speaker 4 (01:51:03):
Directly the same thing today that is every everywhere, big
third down here. I don't know if you want to
shout with the brand, but that is a great hat.

Speaker 3 (01:51:13):
Dad brand hat Mark. I don't know if you've been
fed that on Instagram, but I was fed it and
I bought it, and it was really hoping Maddy just
wouldn't realize the packages at the door and I could
just calmly open it.

Speaker 8 (01:51:25):
Because I'm like, how many times have I said that
in my life?

Speaker 3 (01:51:28):
There's probably a phrase I don't say more yeah in
my life, if I hadn't, if.

Speaker 9 (01:51:32):
I haven't been fed it yet, I will now because
you just messed up my algorithm by saying it out loud,
my phone has heard.

Speaker 3 (01:51:38):
I think the only other phrases I say more are
will you please eat your dinner? And don't hit Nelly
with the dinosaur. That's probably the only phrases I say
more gonna say, Like like the word no must be
getting yelled out a lot, like no, no, no, big
third down here I'd say to my chapel seemingly thirty
times again.

Speaker 7 (01:51:54):
But I think my phrase has always got to have
this yeah, gotta yeah, that.

Speaker 3 (01:51:59):
Is good, go sorry no No.

Speaker 8 (01:52:02):
I definitely enjoyed that.

Speaker 2 (01:52:03):
And I mean.

Speaker 8 (01:52:05):
To give you all insight into how the poor report works.

Speaker 4 (01:52:09):
So it's not an interview like you just sit down
in a room and throw your questions that the officials.

Speaker 8 (01:52:17):
You have to basically do.

Speaker 4 (01:52:18):
What I believe Joel was saying is like through the phone,
so you callel tomorrow Mark, Yeah, he'll explain this. But
like I believe he like talks through the official through
a phone. You have to ask very specific in a
set number of quests, so they ask you before you
even get a chance to really talk to him, what
will you be asking. Then you ask the three questions

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you don't have a chance to have like the follow
ups in the moment, and then they respond via the phone,
so you know what they say, but you can't tweet
or post any of that until they send out the
official report, where they get to, in my mind, clean
up what they said. So there's not for example, when
we're picking on air and I record what you're saying, Kevin,

(01:53:00):
there might be some uh, some filler words in there
whatever from all of us. That's not the case with
the rest. So it sounds very robotic when you get it,
very clean and well thought out, when in the moment
it might even be like that you have a chance
to kind of go back and clean up or doctor
up what you've said, which I believe kind of waters
down the validity of whatever you're trying to accomplish. There.

Speaker 8 (01:53:23):
I hate it. I think it's stupid.

Speaker 7 (01:53:25):
All right, coming up in a month, we'll get to
the headlines.

Speaker 3 (01:53:28):
Last thing, just to tosses in there. I think another
reason why I hate it, James, is it's pretty much
just stating exactly what they thought they saw on the field.

Speaker 1 (01:53:37):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (01:53:37):
So like the answer on Kenny Moore from yesterday was
we saw a grab at the top of the route,
Whereas the NBA two minute report would come back today
and they would say we missed the Jay Huff goaltend,
the Miles Turner, Golten whatever. No NFL pool report I've
ever read has admitted a wrong and again it's ten

(01:53:58):
minutes after the game end. It's like I almost kind
of understand why they don't admit they're It's like they're
watching film with Joel a Ericson in the bowels of
Lucas Oil Stadium.

Speaker 4 (01:54:08):
That's true, but also they've had this is not just yesterday.
They've had some calls well you ain't got to review it. Yeah,
that's a replay, and you still are saying, well, in
the moment, I saw it like this, so that's what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:54:18):
Again.

Speaker 7 (01:54:18):
It makes you feel better or worse when the official
on TV jimeson and goes, oh, yeah, that was definitely
a miss.

Speaker 3 (01:54:25):
I do appreciate the clarity. Like Sterotor mentioned, yesterday on
the goalpost. The ball has got to be, what you say,
fully inside of the outside edge of the goal post.
That's like to me, that's important clarity and knowledge into
a rule we don't really know a lot about. So
I do appreciate that. I know some people hate the
whole official jumping in there, but I do. I appreciate

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that aspect of it.

Speaker 7 (01:54:50):
Yeah, I like when they explain what the official is
taught to look at, kind of something you had talked
about earlier in the show, James. They are They also
right or wrong, have a process that they're trying to
follow to make some of these calls correct.

Speaker 8 (01:55:04):
Yeah, for the most part, all.

Speaker 7 (01:55:06):
Right, coming up in a motent headlines and I'll let
some of you folks on the text line have the
last word. It's ninety three five one or seven five
to fame.

Speaker 10 (01:55:20):
They set a fan morning show with KB, JB and Jeff.

Speaker 6 (01:55:24):
I'm not sure. I think just got to find a
way to make it. It's not always gonna happen exactly
how you trow it up, you know, and you got
to be able to make plays and make it work.
So you know, I think we got to Yeah, I
gotta find a way.

Speaker 4 (01:55:39):
To do that.

Speaker 6 (01:55:39):
It's critical in these games, and haven't been able to
do it well enough.

Speaker 3 (01:55:45):
I try to get it all fixed.

Speaker 7 (01:55:46):
You're gonna have to hurry up and do it because
the schedule is not necessarily in your favor. Two against
Jacksonville starting this Sunday. You got one against Seattle, one
against San Francisco, and one against the Texans to finish
off the season that they just beat you yesterday, And
all of a sudden, the Colts have gone from being
the top team the AFC in just a couple of weeks.

(01:56:07):
Now they are what the number six seed as we
sit here today.

Speaker 4 (01:56:10):
James Boyd that indeed they are the sixth seed, and
they are no longer in first place in the AFC South,
let alone first place in the AFC.

Speaker 8 (01:56:17):
So a lot has changed in a month.

Speaker 3 (01:56:19):
Mark.

Speaker 7 (01:56:19):
You ask everybody to send you, immediate after the post
game some headlines to encapsulate everything. What are the best
of the week so far.

Speaker 3 (01:56:27):
After that twenty to sixteen loss. I can't read it,
there's no words on it. I'm Ron Burgundy, and this
is what's happening in your world tonight. We'ripped from the
headlines of the news. We'll do it live post game
headlines and things.

Speaker 9 (01:56:44):
Sucks, so win or lose, drink the booze. But in
a colt's loss, I sent out the headlines and five
words or less. Give me your immediate thoughts after this game.
Steve leads us off, says Bland home cooking lax sauce.

Speaker 3 (01:57:01):
I thought that was well done, nice, really good. That
was really good.

Speaker 9 (01:57:05):
Another one said, now this is an emoji, so so
let me paint a picture for you, say Shane, and
then a poop emoji different day. So Shane poop emoji
different day. You see what he did there? See the
play on words. That was Jeremy send that. One in
Bryland says season on the Brink, which we all know
that famous book John Einstein. We also have some other

(01:57:29):
ones here. Aaron, taking a shot at Kevin, said, when
did we sign Notre Dame kicker?

Speaker 7 (01:57:34):
That seems.

Speaker 3 (01:57:36):
Notre name hasn't made a field goal in a month
and a half.

Speaker 9 (01:57:39):
Scotty says, refs can gobble on something. I wonder what
that is.

Speaker 3 (01:57:42):
Yeah, I was confused on that. I almost asked Scotty
for a little bit more. I think detail. Should I
just let that one.

Speaker 9 (01:57:48):
You can you let your imagination run wild.

Speaker 3 (01:57:50):
I think I don't think I'll use it.

Speaker 9 (01:57:51):
Alex says division disaster coming in December. How about see
water fines level team drowned? Oh says death taxes, colts
yearly collapse.

Speaker 3 (01:58:06):
Oh man, ouch? This one from Lee Carlee is big mad?
Probably is how mad is carle Er? Say Gordon, that
could be a conversation we might need to have again
here and the next month or so.

Speaker 9 (01:58:21):
Todd Todd says fun WoT lasted a good old Rick carlisleism.

Speaker 3 (01:58:25):
Yeah, someone tweeted that at me after the old Sauce
Gardner injury.

Speaker 7 (01:58:28):
I'm like, gosh, I don't know if mine can connect
the dots well enough. But I was thinking, you know,
between Daniel Jones leg injury, Sauce Gardner's leg injury, and
a mist extra point, Texans get leg up on Colts.

Speaker 3 (01:58:42):
Mmmm, look at that Jeff record, Texans get leg up
on Colts.

Speaker 9 (01:58:47):
Too many words though.

Speaker 8 (01:58:49):
Yeah, well it was uh, it was fun lasted.

Speaker 3 (01:58:55):
I can't count to six.

Speaker 8 (01:58:56):
Come on, you guys know this honestly, though, I still
towards that.

Speaker 4 (01:59:00):
Though they do have a leg up right now, it
feels that the Colts are reeling in the division and
they got a big one coming.

Speaker 3 (01:59:06):
UF.

Speaker 4 (01:59:07):
You don't win this game, we gotta have a conversation
not only about the division, but you making the playoffs.

Speaker 9 (01:59:11):
Seafees also said water fins level team drowns. Well, that's
a bit more bid. After Thanksgiving, I know that's where
we are though.

Speaker 8 (01:59:20):
That's the thing, and I was falling in Indy.

Speaker 3 (01:59:22):
There was a lot of talk.

Speaker 7 (01:59:23):
I was talking to some people after game outside of
the press box and inside the press box yesterday, and
the overriding feeling, unfortunately for both fans and people who
cover the team, is this could get ugly in a hurry.
If they don't play well in Jacksonville and get a
win against the Jaguars this Sunday, it could start getting
ugly fast.

Speaker 4 (01:59:43):
I know we have a lot of listeners who practice
a lot of different religions. Star prance to whoever you
believe in. Because the things I've witnessed, even in my
short time on the beat down in Jacksonville, I've been horrendous.

Speaker 8 (01:59:54):
I will not pick them no never.

Speaker 9 (01:59:57):
Which fan base of an eight and four team do
you think is more hostile right now? Colts or Eagles
it's always Philadelphia, the Eagles on Friday.

Speaker 7 (02:00:07):
You use the word hostile fan base, it's the Eagles
on every occasion.

Speaker 3 (02:00:12):
One week away from being on the hot seat, seemingly
every week.

Speaker 8 (02:00:15):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (02:00:16):
I feel like his tenure in Philly has kind of
been like super Bowl appearance, bad year, super Bowl appearance,
bad year, So like alternates between being loved, like what
are these bad years?

Speaker 3 (02:00:27):
Aren't they still good's?

Speaker 4 (02:00:28):
Let's change well bad by handy standards like make the playoffs,
lose in the first round, let me reach right here,
be a miracle.

Speaker 9 (02:00:33):
Not hostile, but who's more fed up? Because I feel like, well,
Eagles fans can be pissed off right now. They're also
the defending super Bowl champions. They've had some answers, always Eagles.
I see what you're saying, though I do think I
like Eagles fans are just ridiculous as it is. Yes,
like Eagles fans are SEC fans. You just have to
bet them in a different stratosphere. Again, how many fan

(02:00:56):
bases show up to the airport to boo their head
coach SEC fans? That's and that those would be Eagles
fans as well.

Speaker 3 (02:01:02):
That's it.

Speaker 8 (02:01:03):
So is that real that they put Lang Kivin's clothes outside.

Speaker 3 (02:01:07):
I want that to be real. I laughed at that.

Speaker 8 (02:01:09):
I was like, wow, that's petty, beyond belief. Honestly, I
would like some of the wardrobe.

Speaker 3 (02:01:14):
That's all that. But Mark, to your point, you know,
Colts fans right now, and I mean as they should,
are feeling very uneasy about their situation. I mean, you've
lost three of four, you lost at home, now you
have two on the road. You've got the hardest schedule
remaining in the NFL. If you look at Jacksonville in
Houston's schedule down the stretch, I want to say Jacksonville

(02:01:34):
in particular much more manageable than the Colts. So yeah,
I mean it's it is areas of your body that
tend to clench. They are doing that right now.

Speaker 7 (02:01:47):
Just quick question for you, Mark, I know you're feeling
good at nine and three for the Bears. Yeah, they
get to play the Packers twice, the forty nine Lions
for their last five. How are you feeling about things
down there?

Speaker 9 (02:02:00):
Well, I'm feeling more confident than I would have. I
also just think that they can kind of play with
anybody at this point. They're just kind of we'll see.
They're getting in tight games and they're not playing their
best football, but they're finding ways to win. So Packers
are up next. I think Packers fans are a bit
nervous this week, which is a nice change of pace.
But we'll see what happens.

Speaker 8 (02:02:19):
All right, that's Mark should take off his shirt like
Ben Johnson.

Speaker 9 (02:02:21):
Maybe I will if they beat the Packers, Like I'll
take my shirt off. Sure, no one wants to see that.

Speaker 7 (02:02:28):
One has to sit right across from him.

Speaker 3 (02:02:29):
Why is it? I would love that? Mark?

Speaker 9 (02:02:31):
Maybe I'll christen the new building if we move in
by then, I'll Chris, are you.

Speaker 3 (02:02:35):
Going to buy a Bear speedo?

Speaker 12 (02:02:36):
Here?

Speaker 3 (02:02:36):
Are we there yet?

Speaker 12 (02:02:38):
Not yet?

Speaker 10 (02:02:39):
We might be.

Speaker 8 (02:02:39):
We're trending in that direction.

Speaker 9 (02:02:40):
There was a Shuffle HBO Max documentary around the Super Bowl.
Shuffle that came out around Thanksgiving.

Speaker 7 (02:02:48):
Needs to all right, Uh, Pacers coming up tonight seven
o'clock airtime, six thirty here at ninety three five one
or something five to the fan or you can go
watch it yourself at the Fieldhouse. They'll be taking on
the Cleveland Cavaliers. We'll talk about it all tomorrow morning,
seven am.

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