Monday 8/25: Colts wrap the preseason and now roster cuts are upcoming! Any surprises?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He didn't say anything.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
I was like, get nice, and then he's handing back
to me like three times. He's like and then I
realized what he was doing. But uh yeah, shout out
to him. That meant a lot to me.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
I thought it was a hell of a team effort
by both sides of football, really, all three phases. I
thought we played companer andnie football all the way through
the game with those young guys going out there competing.

Speaker 4 (00:18):
Okay, great effort.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
A lot of guys showed up, obviously, d SCTY getting
the pick six there to go up ten.

Speaker 5 (00:22):
Nothing was huge.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
The chill is in the air as we inch closer
to the starts of the NFL season. Roster cuts coming tomorrow.
Do by four o'clock, two weeks from right now, we'll
be recapping Colts and Dolphins Week one. I thought about it,
James Boyd went there, it's is it sweatpants season? You

(00:49):
know what? That's why I thought about it. That's why
I walked in it.

Speaker 6 (00:52):
What six fifty nine fifty nine, Because when I walked
out of the house this morning, I was like, wait
a second, I need something, you know, over my arms here,
over my legs. So man, a quick U turn. But yeah,
it feels like it's gonna be fall pretty soon.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
In fall means football, man, you know, tumbling when that
first chill of the year sends you back inside to sha.
Right there, I had the voice.

Speaker 6 (01:12):
Of Mama Boyd in my head saying put something on,
and that's what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
I was laugh at like, fifty seven degrees in August
versus fifty seven degrees in March. If it was March,
I mean, hell, I'd be in a speedo in the circle.
But fifty seven degrees in August, we might as well
wear a parka exactly here. Football weather alive and well
we got you covered on this Monday morning plenty to
recap from what was another busy weekend in sports. Mark Dayton,

(01:36):
as always, thank you for that intro. Good Monday morning
to you, Thank you, good morning.

Speaker 6 (01:43):
Sorry, sometimes I'm just gonna ignore you for a second,
Like wow, wet.

Speaker 7 (01:47):
I was thinking about how I was just here a
few hours ago doing the Fever game, and I was like,
I should have just spent the night here, but I
went home, got home at like eleven o'clock, hit the alarm.
I'm like, I'm gonna be right back here in like
a matter of hours. Left my coffee here over night.
I'm like, no one else is gonna be in here
before I am. I was warming up when I.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Get back with a fever. They're on a little thin
ice right now. Yeah, got a bit tight last night.

Speaker 7 (02:09):
Not only did they lose to Minnesota for the second
time in two games, but then Seattle and Golden State
both won. And you look at the NBA WNBA standings
now on the fever down in eighth, So that is
not good. And I'll you've a huge one on Tuesday
with Seattle coming to town. That could be postseason implications
big time.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, I'm gonna stretch it just past Seattle. The next
three games are all against teams right there in the
standings with them, and again, their regular season is just
two weeks away from being over. So yes, the Caitlin
Clark injury situation remains, but with losing to the Links
Friday and Sunday, it is getting tight and trying to

(02:46):
claim a playoff spot. To Pat Leonard join us a
little bit later in the show covers the Giants, We'll
get into Daniel Jones and that experience out there. Nate
Atkins from the Indianapolis Star. Nate said to JMV last
week that this will be it for him on the
Old Colts Beat. So we'll chat with him one final

(03:06):
time and again we'll look back on what happened in
Cincinnati on Saturday afternoon. You heard Riley Leonard's voice there
in the intro. Very nice performance from the sixth round
pick out of Notre Dame. He uncorked one there to
La Kwan Treadwell QB one and he played very.

Speaker 7 (03:26):
Well in that game. Say that again, mark QB one.
I mean, people, trust me. If you were watching that
game or you have to check Twitter during that game,
you're like, are we sure Daniel Jones' quarterback won? Riley
Leonards showing us some things here.

Speaker 6 (03:39):
Yeah, they were a minimum wanting him to be QB
two because a lot of the comments I got was like, have.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
You give it up on Anthony just you know, go
with Riley?

Speaker 6 (03:46):
And I'm like, wait a second, people, this is against
third and four stringers. But nevertheless, he did play very
well on Saturday.

Speaker 7 (03:53):
I suffiicially want to see that happen just so we
can see the true like Kevin Bowen Notre Dame fandom
see the sway that it has, and.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
He has a shirt on this morning. Yeah, of course,
one week from today we'll be recapping Notre Dame in
Miami here on this very show.

Speaker 7 (04:09):
And wearing wearing a Tito's vodka hat, probably because when
you got to drink a little bit too that.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
It is quite the combination. I don't think there's anything
more hyped than the final preseason game of third stringers
if said said player plays well, James, I don't know
how many Lakwan Treadwell comments you got on Saturday as well,
people demanding that he'd be on the football team. I
don't think there's anything more hyped in the NFL than

(04:35):
insert random player here with some sort of pedigree plays
well in the final preseason game. And yes, people clamoring
for Riley Leonard to be moving up the depth chart,
or people clamoring for Laquwan Treadwall, which I guess we
should probably get into it some point today.

Speaker 5 (04:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (04:47):
I'm looking right now at the text line and someone
said Treadwill is our fourth best receiver. He should not
be cut. He is not there to best receiver, babe, Yeah,
but he is. I think what I see whenever he's
out there, especially in these moments, is the gap between
like a fringe NFL player, which is what he is,

(05:07):
this one in his career versus guys who probably will
not be NFL players, and he just beats him like
a drum every preseason. It seems like, well, credit to him.
I mean, this is a twenty sixteen first round pick
double some major injuries I believe in college and even
earlier on his NFL career, and ten years in he's
still kicking, So respect to him.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah. So, lots of recap from Saturday in which the
Colts you know, again their third stringers, and I guess
they did play a couple frontline guys we can point out,
but they played very very well against Cincinnati. Shane Sichin
will meet the media a little bit later today. Nothing
on a practice front today or tomorrow. Again, everything kind
of centered around roster cuts. Those are due four o'clock tomorrow.
You've already already started to see some teams around the

(05:47):
league make their initial cuts. Typically, the Colts have I
think always operated with Chris Ballard as a team that'll
cut at about what three forty five tomorrow? They will
and I assume continue to take the time with that,
So we'll nerd out over some of those roster cuts
differences from you know, maybe James, maybe myself.

Speaker 6 (06:06):
I want to say, we might have had like an
identical one Kevin, I really struggled to make some I
thought this year wasn't that hard for me in a way.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, I saw Joli Rickson quite a few differences, So
I don't know, maybe we can kind of go off
of Joels a little bit there and get into something
because I do think, you know, watching the game on Saturday,
there were a couple of thoughts that I did have
that kind of pushed back my own thoughts. I'm like, Okay,
maybe I should pause here or there. The injury situation
is always one to keep an eye on, so we'll
definitely hit that here on this Monday morning. I did

(06:38):
want to make sure that we stuck this in and
maybe at some point we can expand a little bit
on it. But it happened Friday, and I was stunned
when I saw this headline and then reading you know,
the comments around it from the team as the announcement
was made. It was quite the unusual press release. I
think there's oftentimes James kind of a joke in our

(06:59):
industry that occasionally you'll get the Friday news dump. Yeah,
you send out the press release that probably doesn't have
a lot of good things in it at about four
o'clock on a Friday, and you hope that you've hit
the happy hour crew and no one is paying attention
to your story here. But the Pacers announced on Friday,

(07:20):
I believe Friday afternoon, maybe it was late morning, a
mutual partying of ways with should I say top assistant,
I don't know, maybe Lloyd Pierce at the top assistant,
but Mike Winer, assistant coach for the Pacers, who has
been with Rick Carlisle for nearly two decades. And again
the mutual parting of ways about a month before the
season is going to begin, training camp is going to begin.

(07:41):
There was a report a few weeks ago that Weiner
had turned down the New York Knicks and Mike Brown's
assistant opening there on that staff. So James, I guess
I'll start there. When I saw that headline, I was stunned.
And then reading more of the again press release and
seeing some comments for the Pacers, it was quite the
unusual reaction to a story of that. Oak expand on

(08:06):
that a bit if you don't mind. Well, the press
release was very thorough and beyond complimentary of Mike Winer.
Rick Carlile's quote was it sounded like a quote that
you know you might have for your children one day
and describing them. And then you had Steven Simon going

(08:27):
on Twitter calling Mike Winer a rock star. So I
guess I say all of this to say, this does
actually seem like something that is not a breaking up
of sorts like we occasionally see in profession. Right, this
is not lip service. That is a good way to
put it, James. It does seem like, you know, first off,
I hope everything is fine with Mike Winer family all

(08:47):
of that, because the timing is a little odd. The
mutual party of ways is odd in the sense of, like, boy,
I felt like it was going to be running back
with this crew. And again, Rick Carlile's quote was super
long and detailed and complimentary and all of that. I
don't know. Maybe I'll wake up tomorrow and all of
a sudden you'll see Mike Winer's joined insert staff here.

(09:08):
But I didn't get the vibe I guess from that
via that press release.

Speaker 6 (09:12):
Yeah, it is a bit surprising to me. I do
wonder if we'll get one of those headlines like you said, Kevin.
But at the same time, we're a month out from
the season, Like how many teams are still retooling their
coaching staff rosters. I know it happens a lot with players,
but usually coaching staffs at this point in the off
season are pretty set. But yeah, you go back to
what Mike Winer has done with Rick Carlaut in his career.

(09:34):
Keep in mind, he was also an assistant on that
twenty eleven Dallas Mavericks championship team with Rick in Dallas,
you know, with the Dirt Davinsky led team, and so
they have known each other for quite some time, probably
the better part of i'd imagine, you know, close to
two decades, where it says here in the press release,
seventeen plus years.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
So you know, I do wish Mike the best.

Speaker 6 (09:53):
He's one of the nicest guys that I got to
know on the Pacers, and whenever I did stop by,
even after I stopped government team full time, asked me
how I was doing. Been a few times I would
see him and just see how his family was doing
how he was doing, and obviously throughout these last two years,
a lot of how you were doing was, Oh, the
team's doing better. You know, we're doing the right things.
And so I do think that'll be a big loss

(10:15):
for the Pacers. But obviously, just based off of what
we see in this press release, if it is a
mutually you know, agreed upon, you know, kind of break up,
hopefully Mike gets what he wants out of this and
he lands on his feet and hopefully I can see
him on the sideline or at least behind the bench
with somewhere very very soon.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
I hope everything is good with Mike Winer and his
family again. Plenty to recap from this weekend. An awesome,
awesome move from Christian Rask me send up there in
Milwaukee yesterday in the IndyCar Race, and and Alex Polo
goo in toe to toe there with about fifteen laps
to go, and Ed Carpenter Racing gets their first win
in IndyCar in about four years. You had Lebron James,

(10:52):
Caitlin Clark among others tweeting about Tommy Fleetwood they call
him faaraway Jesus getting it done, and the tour chain
being Chip his first win on the PGA Tour. And
did I see Carson Wins signing with the Minnesota Vikings.
You did it?

Speaker 8 (11:08):
In fact?

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah, look at this rounds at holiday Farms be put
on hold. Training sessions at Trader's point seemingly has turned
into that. How about that life? You miss all of
training camp and you just walk into being the team's
backup quarterback with ten days ago till the season starts.
That's good life. He does do a single day of
training camp. It's a great life.

Speaker 6 (11:30):
I did also see my buddy Alec Lewis, who covers
the Vikings for us at the Athletics, say, you know,
it's an overlap here, you know Carson Wentz and Ryan
Kelly and Will Fries two to twenty twenty one colts,
And I was like, yeap round here they want to
forget that, So don't reference that too often among those
Vikings fans. They might go find the tape and be appalled.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
So Carson Wentz or Daniel Jones, who would you rather have?

Speaker 6 (11:52):
Oh, Danie Jones? Very easily. Actually, at least in these parts.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Carson Wentz had you what maybe a play away from
the playoffs, Maybe maybe two plays away from the playoffs.
Did you get in well? I mean, are you gonna
get them? Daniel Jones, that's the hope.

Speaker 6 (12:09):
I'm not saying I believe that, but hey, that is
what the Colts believes.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
The prayer that is James Boyd and Mark Tyston, I'm
Kevin bow and Jeff Fricker will be back with us
coming up tomorrow. But we've got a lot to throw
your way here to start off this week. Thank you
for doing it here. It is a chilly, crispy start
football weather. It feels like you're driving to a new
tailgate in Bloomington or West It's so amazing right now,
right now. We will have a noon one in West
Lafayette coming up on Saturday, two thirty down in Bloomington,

(12:36):
and again Notre Dame in Miami Sunday night from the
Orange Bowl. Cannot wait to talk about it all. Thank
you for starting off your week with us right here.
It's the Fan Morning Show ninety three five one A
seven five the fans. All right, let's begin with the
preseason finale down in the Queens City. James Boyd, you
were front and center for Riley Leonard looking like the
next Joe Montana your big takeaway from the Colts throttling

(13:02):
the Cincinnati Bengals Saturday afternoon.

Speaker 6 (13:05):
I thought he looked really good, and honestly, that's probably
as good as he's looked throughout all training camp in
the preseason.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
So there's no probably about it. That is easily the
best he's looked in my opinion. Fair enough.

Speaker 6 (13:16):
Yeah, I was trying to hed you a little bit,
but yes, Kevin Bowen is telling the truth there.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
He looked really good.

Speaker 6 (13:22):
I did think that there were a few other players
that stood out to me. Isaiah Lamb was one of them.
I have him missing my figure three man roster, but
part of me is like, man, would he make it?

Speaker 1 (13:30):
You know, would I really to keep seven quarterbacks? We
can giveated for sure. Yeah, we can get in.

Speaker 6 (13:34):
To the projections and all of that, but overall, I
just thought that, you know, honestly, you got to it
without any major injuries was probably the biggest thing.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
So mapping out the week today should be relatively quiet.
Some teams do start to make their roster cuts today.
They are due by four o'clock Tuesday, yep again. Chris
Ballad is usually operated in a wait till very late
close to that deadline for you.

Speaker 6 (13:55):
We'll hear from sanin Psyching Leader today on Zoom I Believe.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
And then Wednesday Ballad will talk always recaps roster cuts
right after the waiverclaim deadline, So if the Colts make
a waiverclaim or two or three, we will get that
info and then I feel like we.

Speaker 6 (14:10):
Will not be talking about roster cuts that much on Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, probably a little bit of other pressing topics. One
more practice Thursday, and then the NFL has mandated a
really quiet Labor Day weekend, so nothing Friday, Saturday, Sunday,
and then it all begins coming up next week here
for the twenty twenty five season. All right, last night
Mark Dyton was on the Ones and twos. It was
the Fever in the Links and Sunday. I guess Friday

(14:34):
I got away from the third quarter. I would say
Yesterday got away from him. In that second quarter, the
banged up Fever bunch could not handle the return of
the Fisa Coli. You're understandable. She was outstanding and the Links. So,
as we said in the opening segment, guys, it is
getting very dicey from a standings point of view. They
are now eight in the standings and eight teams make

(14:58):
the playoffs. And this week with Seattle, with the Sparks
and with the Valkyries, Golden State, those are the three
teams all right there with them in the standings, and
Seattle's home tomorrow, but then after that they start a
four game Western trips. So it's easily the most critical
week of the Fever season right now. Absolutely.

Speaker 6 (15:20):
I mean I'm looking at, like you said, a huge
matchup against Seattle tomorrow, but then you also have Los
Angeles coming up, you got Golden State, two teams that
have had your number earlier this year, you got Phoenix,
and so.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
It does not get easier.

Speaker 6 (15:32):
And not that any of these games really are this
point the season are pretty easy, because I think I
you're on the other side of these games. If you're
a Chicago for example, on September fifth, you're probably thinking, well,
we're out of the playoffs and want to keep you
out of it too. So these are some tough games
coming up and just hoping that, you know, for the
fevers sake, you can hang on and just get into
the playoffs, but it'll be tough to do so, especially
if you continue to kind of you know, have those

(15:53):
lulls like we saw early in the second quarter. Yesterday,
Home Tomorrow Day again yesterday, I'm sorry, home Tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Against the storm, and then that road trip starts on Friday.
After that, Smart de Acton very happy about his Chicago Cubs.
They sweep the La angel Is it five back?

Speaker 5 (16:11):
Five?

Speaker 7 (16:11):
Yeah, because the Brewers lost two of three to the
Giants this weekend.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
So five back. As we inch closer to September, I
did see that the MLB sent at the stat we
right now with cayl Raley, Kyle Schworburn Shohey Otani, we
have three different players that have already hit forty five
homers before September. That is the only the third time
in MLB history. You got to go back to the

(16:35):
old steroid era ninety eight and two thousand and one.
Both of those seasons you had at least three reached
that number mark. You got any rationale behind Big Dumper,
Otani and Schwarber the legend all at forty five homers.

Speaker 7 (16:51):
Not really, no, I mean Schwarber and Showhey just kind
of do their thing. Cal Raley's kind of come out
of nowhere, but I mean he's got swings quite a
big stick, so yeah, I don't know. It's fun to
watch though. I like watching all three of those guys
in the Blatter's box, so good stuff there. And yeah,
cal Rawley had another amazing just Sundays, multiple bombs and
all that stuff, So yeah, I'm fine with that.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Victory Field's got the Indians back at home this week.
Did you have McConnell Knight coming up Wednesday night?

Speaker 9 (17:19):
There?

Speaker 1 (17:19):
So it'll be Indians and Buffalo here. What a great
week weatherwise for Victory Field. And I think it's their
second to last homestay. I believe that he's so yeah,
get out there if you haven't been out there yet.
I believe that it is right as we said, an
unbelievable pass by Christian Rasmussen with about fifteen laps to
go yesterday in Milwaukee and he gets it done. Talk
about a name that not a lot of people would

(17:40):
have had pegged as a winner in twenty twenty five,
the first win for Ed Carpenter Racing since two thousand
and twenty one. Mark it was did we have Rasmussen
on the show? And we thought we were having Christian
Lungard on the show at one point or was it
vice versa boy? I don't remember. Do you remember that?

Speaker 5 (17:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (17:59):
That was interesting.

Speaker 7 (18:00):
It's because you're fielding like I'm fielding like twenty emails
from different indie car teams and they just say Christians,
good to go, And it's one of those things where
it's like you don't really think about it.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Are you Christians? Both from Denmark? And we screwed it up,
can't we? And Ed Carpenter was dying laughing. That's actually
pretty funny. Ed was listening, dying laughing amongst that. Whichever
one it was, I probably should remember. They couldn't have
handled it better there, So shout out to rasp Me said,
he's a daredevil. He puts himself in some interesting situation.
It's a whole lot. That was quite the past. On
the outside of Pollow yesterday afternoon we mentioned Tommy Fleetwood

(18:33):
getting done in golf. Did you guys care at all?
I mean we did have some notable people in the
sports world tweeting about it. It made me turn it on.

Speaker 6 (18:41):
I thought it was, you know, pretty cool and honestly,
you know one of those moments where and if you're
in his shoes, I do will you ever experience something
like this. Again, I'm not saying he can't, but it's
obviously a little different than having like your typical headliner.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
When the event, How did you feel about it? I
liked it, you know, first off, and we're sexting a
little bit with our other than it seems like a
really likable dude thirty top fives in his career. This
is one hundred and sixty fourth career start on the
PGA Tour and near Missus, I mean near Missus in
Memphis just two weeks ago, and so I thought it
was a pretty cool scene. By all accounts, people on

(19:13):
tour like players on tour love them as well. So
I enjoyed that and shout out to the North Central
Panthers as we recap Week one high school football. Yes, Mark,
you're Brownsburg Bulldogs to get a nationally ranked win, but
Colin Kawfer and the Panthers of North Central their first
win since twenty and twenty one. They had thirty two

(19:36):
straight losses. Coffer taken over there. L N Grad played
at U Wendy and they get it done in Week one.
So I thought that was one of the cool stories there.
As we started up high school football.

Speaker 6 (19:49):
I took a trip over to Warren Central for Center Grove.
Warren Central Center Grove one, I believe twenty four to six.
It was lopsided, and I would just tell or Viz
the Warren Central team drink some water, a lot of
guys cramping up in the second half, and I was like,
this is such a high school experience. And I know
I say this because who hasn't been to a high

(20:09):
school game where a bunch of kids are cramping up.
And I was thinking, man, some coach somewhere is like,
I told you how to drink water throughout third period
and you didn't do it, and now it's coming back.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
To bites a little bit.

Speaker 6 (20:18):
But overall, I think the score was maybe a little
bit lopsided, just because for most of the game, I
want to say, it was a one or two score
game and then it got lopsided or kind of blown
open at the end. But I think both those teams
are gonna be very good this year. Well there you go,
shout out Week good every year, but nevertheless.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Shout out to Week one high school football. And as
we said to open up the show, Carson Wentz joining
the Minnesota Vikings as their backup brand in here on Twitter.
I thought about it over the weekend. I'd rather have
WinCE the last three years than what we had. I
get Wentz was a strange dude, but still, do you
think that's the majority of Colts fans or is that
the minority of Colts fans? I think this is a minority.

Speaker 6 (20:54):
I think sometimes it's like a breakup when you leave somebody,
you think about the highlights that you had with you
don't think about why you left initially, and then if
you get back in it, you realize.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
You know what, that's why this didn't work the first time.

Speaker 7 (21:09):
Hindsight is always twenty twenty three years of Carson Wentz
or Matt Ryan, Anthony Richardson and Gardner Minshew. I was
at Gardner Minshew in the Bears game. He's backing up
Patrick Mahomes. I was like, my god, the ghost of
Colts quarterback.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
That's where once was.

Speaker 6 (21:23):
I'm say that is true, and so what should we
expect we are Anthony Richond or Daniel Jones stand up
in Kansas City next year like that.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, it's feeding them. Now when I say that out loud,
Ryan Richardson Minshew, does that make you pause at all.

Speaker 6 (21:38):
It does make me pause, But okay, is the caveat
that we know exactly what's gonna happen with those guys
or we just running it back and seeing what happens.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, start hindsight is super twenty twenty with that.

Speaker 7 (21:50):
I really wanted the band aid pulled off with the
veteran quarterback Patrick Jobs, and then they got Anthony Richardson
and now every he's like, well, this isn't working out
so well because they'd rather go back to that again.

Speaker 6 (21:58):
The bet is still probably on Richard's and being something
and maybe not Messicum Shoulders a rookie.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (22:04):
You're giving me like pretty poor options here, Kevin.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
I'm gonna say that's why I'm wearing the Cheeto's hat
here on this morning morning and stuff like that. I'll
make you want to throw a couple back here.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
All right.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
On the other side, what do you make of Riley Leonard?
Anything else? Saturday Impact Roster cuts will hit on that here.
Pat Leonard covers the Giant's gonna join us coming up
in the nine o'clock hour, some Daniel Jones memory Lane
if you will, and then Nate Atkins from the Star
at nine to thirty, Kevin Bow and James Boyd, Mark
Dychton here on a Monday Thanks for starting your week

(22:35):
with us. I feel like the beat right there mark
of the re entry is perfect for this weather outside. Yeah,
it's a little autumn autumn tune. Yeah, just a nice
little chill here on this Monday morning. Certainly is not
mc miller, by the way, like a great song August
twenty fifth. At all. I was half joking, half serious

(22:55):
yet earlier in the show when I opened up the
door this morning, fella, I should be going to a
college football tail gate. Just felt absolutely awesome outside. We
will get things started. Did you guys binge any college
football this weekend? I did not. I feel like I
lost one of my days.

Speaker 6 (23:09):
Obviously going out Cincinnati on Saturday and yesterday. I wasn't
really checking for too much if there was any games
on yesterday.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Sadly was living and dying with Stanford football on Saturday.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
I did catch like the end of that, but probably
just a Frank Riker.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
We get Frank Reich and interim win out there on
the islands, and no, not at all. Shout out to
the Hawaii kicker. He was outstanding. As they were able
to beat Stanford Rowley for Stanford football. Far cry from
where it was with David Shaw or Jim harbop alright
with Andrew Luck as quarterback certainly. Yeah, good Monday morning

(23:45):
to you. Thank you for starting the week off with us. James,
like you said, was in Cincinnati on Saturday. When'd you
make a Raley Leonard? I know, he's obviously a name
that a lot of people around here remember from his
collegiate days, and you know, he really hasn't had I
think I guess I should say this. I thought there

(24:06):
maybe was a third quarterback competition entering camp between him
and Jason Bean. Never really transpired in that way. To
be fair, Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones got so many
reps as they should have in that quarterback competition. But
James for a half out there, I mean he uncorked
one deep to the quan tried well. That was a
really nice performance from the sixth round pick.

Speaker 6 (24:27):
Well, as you know, Kevin ry Lennard was the first
quarterback for the Colts to throw a touchdown pass in
the preseason, So that right there means he's QB one
in the eyes of Mark Dyking and many others. So
that's where I fall in the Ry Leonard debate. But no,
I thought he had a solid half. I thought his
personality afterwards was pretty heartwarming. Just hit her and talk

(24:49):
about he's.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Got a great person out it very very easy to like.

Speaker 6 (24:52):
Yeah, he was telling us how, you know, Anthony Richison
had given him the football and he was kind of
confused as to what he was doing, but he said, hey,
you first touchdown ball in the I fell gave it
to his dad, whose birthday just happened to be on
this past Saturday in Cincinnati, so that was really cool.
But I thought he looked pretty poised out there, and
I thought I got kick out him going back in
there because THESTI being got hurt briefly, and he said

(25:12):
he had an handoff and he obviously handed it off,
but I told him, I said, did you try to
get Shane to, you know, let you on cork one more?

Speaker 1 (25:17):
And he was like, yeah, I did.

Speaker 6 (25:18):
I wanted to so bad and obviously that did not happen.
But for the progress that he's made throughout the preseason,
I thought you could see some tangible improvement, which is
all you really want from a guy who again was
drafting the sixth round.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, I mean you're betting on the one hundred and
ninetieth pick with traits and okay, what traits does he have? Well,
first off, everyone saw us in college. Great runner. I
mean you even saw it on Saturday. He made several
plays with his legs. There by all accounts, wonderful leader.
I mean the staff and Notre Dame and certainly Duke
as well praised him many many times for that aspect

(25:53):
to it. I think there's a major desire to want
to be something. For those unfamiliar with his story, I
no Greg gray Straw hit on this a little bit
during the telecast, but you know, lives very close to
Philip Rivers down in the Alabama area there and is
I guess you'd call Philip maybe a mentor for him
in this NFL journey. The biggest question is can you

(26:14):
develop from the pocket. And you know he was I
would say pretty inaccurate at times in college and even
the first two preseason games, James, you know, he hovered
right around fifty percent. But I thought, you know, honestly
a compliment too to that offensive line. I mean, it's
not always something that you say, in third preseason games.

(26:36):
I thought they gave Leonard to moments too to flash
the arm. Obviously, the treadwell play is the big one. Yeah,
low developing play though, right time what you get in
those games typically it doesn't go very well with the
patchwork offensive line in front of them. I have no
real debate, and I didn't have a debate going into
Saturday and the Chris Ballard era with Sam Ellinger. Mainly
they have often kept the third lineback or excuse me,

(26:57):
a third quarterback on their fifty three man roster. I
thought that previous with Leonard. I assume that just confirms
it for you too. Did you have any debate about
whether you try to sneak him to the practice squad.

Speaker 6 (27:08):
No, honestly think that if he goes to the practice
squad there's a decent chance that he might not be around.
I don't know if you want to run that risk
what someone you did draft and obviously want to keep.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Him around, which give them the injury histories of the
two guys above him on the dead chart as well.

Speaker 6 (27:22):
But also they've typically kept three quarterbacks in the past,
which is why I rolled with Ry Leonard as my QB.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Three, uh Laqwan. Treadwell is one of the more I
think interesting third preseason game stories that you have out there, James.
When you think of the third preseason game, you think
of the undrafted kid. You think of coleman Owen number three,
the wide out who you saw flash again. I think
he's a great practice squad candidate, undrafted out of Ohio.
Those are the ones that you think of. Treadwell is

(27:49):
a former first round pick, James, will he's got to
be close to thirty if if he's not thirty, he
turned thirty in June, so he's thirty years old. You
don't have many thirty year old former first round picks
out there catching six balls for one hundred and some
yards in a preseason finale. But that is the case
with tread Well. I know I was one and you

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were one as well. Getting several questions on what is
the future for him, I consider him again a great
practice squad candidate. Remember the practice squad rules have changed
in recent years. You now can have a couple veterans
on your practice squad. Yes, it's not just young dudes.
Do you think tread Well pushes for anything more than
a practice squad spot.

Speaker 6 (28:30):
I don't think so, but I did have a few
people who were reaching out to me, not like GMS
or team people, but other reporters. For example, I know
the forty nine ers might need some my receiver help,
you know, depending on what things are going on over there.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
We had our reporter reach out to me and Matt
Burrows and he was.

Speaker 6 (28:46):
Like, hey, you know, if you had to pick one
guy who you know is kind of a friends, guy
you know, probably won't make the team, but could be
a you know, a contributor you know on another team.
I told him, Hey, Lawan Treble, I do think could
help in if you're looking for somebody and you're in
a BOM for wide receivers, He's someone who could step
in and I think certainly help your room. And then
just get to know him. Over the last couple of years,

(29:07):
I've actually talked to Lakwan a lot. A lot of
Fridays when everyone's kind of just trying to get out
of there. You make small talk with the guys, but
with him, it's not really small talk. First start off,
Mark is just being the guy who's similar to where
I'm from, Illinois, being a cremonnique guy, which is not
too far from Romeoville. But at the same time, I
did have multiple conversations with him about the journey in
sticking with it and you know, how do you stick

(29:30):
with the dream that isn't what you envision because obviously,
for him his entire life, he was a star high school, college,
first round pick, and then you have some injuries and
then you get you know, humbled a bit, which I
think he was always humble, but he was just saying, like,
it changes your perspective. And now I think that when
you see him go out there and perform, you'rers teammates

(29:51):
talk about him and even then, like, again I talked
to him, this is like, I don't know, week twelve
of last season and he's obviously not going to play
on Sunday, but he's just telling me how, you know,
he loves the game, and I think you really realize
that when you love it enough to continue to chase
that you've made all the money, you could probably be
set for life afterwards, and you're still, you know, trying
to prove yourself. Because he was like, I still want

(30:11):
to go out there and sew him. I am this
player that you know, got drafted in the first round
years ago.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
So again respect to him, he's caught one ball in
the NFL the last two years, so even most recently,
it's not like he's had.

Speaker 6 (30:22):
Exactly but he's just going at it, which I think
if you got some kids out there who need to
like look at people to emulate their character after it,
that's the guy.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
And I think he's like important in a room for
like Adie Mitchell. Oh absolutely, you know again, the guy
coming in the NFL hyped up career has not gone
anywhere near what you would think of of a first
round white out. And I guess this is where maybe
we could get into and I apologize, I know this
isn't the cup of tea for everybody, but for those
that do care about roster cuts coming up tomorrow at
four James, one of the things like tread well, he

(30:56):
technically falls into a guy that you will cut wave right.
So if you've been in the league, had enough time
in the league, right, right. So if you've been in
the league for longer than four years, you were cut
and immediately you become a free agent, it's kind of
like you've earned the right to then pick your destination.
So take for example, the two white outs that shine

(31:18):
on Saturday again, Treadwell will be cut in all likelihood
become a free agent. I think he could very well
be back on the Colts. Yeah, practice squad, and they
will want that. Coleman Owen, the undrafted kid out of
Ohio because he's been in the league for less than
four years, you'll waive him. That puts him on the
waiver market. And remember waiver market goes back to the

(31:38):
draft order from this past year. So the Colts had
what fourteenth pick is where they took Warren? Is that right,
thirteenth pick? Fourteenth, So we're fourteen in the waiver order.
So if you go back to the draft order from April,
that's how it will go. Coleman Owen will be on
the waiver wire and all thirty two teams will get
a chance to put a claim in for him. And
if you are the team that is highest in the

(32:00):
waiver order and you claim that guy and no one
else does, then boom, you get that player and you
have to make a corresponding roster move with that. Last year,
for example, the Colts did it with Samuel Wollmack, a
corner from the forty nine ers. So that's a little
bit of an explanation on It's part of kind of

(32:21):
the roster gymnastics that some teams will play this year.
Like theoretically it's easier to make a promise to Lakwan
Treadwell than it is to coleman Owen if you hear
me out on that. Absolutely, like Chris Lamon's at corner
for example, right now, the.

Speaker 6 (32:39):
Guy who will get cut instead of waived.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
But I think the Colts could easily say, hey, man,
just be patient, we'll get you back here within that
first week. Yep. We just don't want to expose other
guys to waivers right away because that's the time where
all these teams are out there. Remember the Colts claim
five guys in Chris Bowitt's first offseason. So at Corner,
for example, you have an undrafted kid and Jonathan Edwards, again,
you would have to expose him to waivers if you

(33:02):
were to cut him. So again, I apologize because I
know it's a little bit technical, but sometimes when you
see these veterans that get cut, some people are surprised
by it. But it's kind of a handshake agreement that
you occasionally see teams make with veterans like, hey, we'll
get you back here. We just need to play the
roster game for a couple of days before we really

(33:23):
set our week one roster.

Speaker 5 (33:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (33:24):
I feel like this is when they go into the
room and you know in the detective shows they have
all like the wires and the like X Marxist spot thing,
and they're all like pulling their hair out trying to
figure out what connects. That's probably what you do, I
think with the roster a little bit to figure out
what connects, what makes the most sense, and how can
we hopefully get ideally everyone we want back in the
next week or so. But it looks different in the

(33:47):
pathway to getting there for each player.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Some people in the YouTube chat are asking about tight end.
You and I were on the same page, right, we're
keeping for and we're cutting Jilanni Woods.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (33:56):
And I did get a few comments on social media
after Saturday's game, after my fifty three man roster came out,
and some people were pushing back on the Joigny Woods cut.
They're like, hey, this guy's, you know, a third round pick,
and he's got a lot of upside, and you know,
she showed some stuff. But I truly believe, for those
who watched every snap of the preseason, every snap of

(34:17):
training camp, that the four guys ahead of him, Tyler Warren,
Wally Cox, Will Mallard, and Drew Ogletree were better than
Jelannie Woods. And I don't think that that's necessarily like
a hot take. I think it's just a real take
and maybe something a hard pill to swallow because of
where Johnny Woods was drafted.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Chris asked us waiver Wire. Give the Titans the first
pick of everyone's players, or do they just get to
claim one player. They could claim fifty three if they'd like.
They would then have to cut all fifty three of
their players, so you can claim as many. Again, the
Colts claim five in the first Chris Ballard year mark.
I seem to recall a few years ago when your
Bears changed GMS, they claimed a bunch at roster cuts.

(34:58):
You can claim as many as you would like. So, yes,
they get the first right of refusal if you will
to every player cut or excuse me, waived, but you
must make a corresponding roster move with that.

Speaker 6 (35:08):
Yeah, you also want to keep in mind, and I
got some clarification on this from the league over the weekend.
So you still have two players that when roster cut
down day comes tomorrow officially at four pm, two players
you can designate to go to IR but to return
for the season.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
And Kevin.

Speaker 6 (35:26):
When I was doing my fifty three manters roster, I
was talking about this with Joey ericson of any star
I wanted to try to predict who might be the
IR Cannions, but I didn't want to go that far
because I'm like, I don't want to be the guy
who's like, oh, this guy, I'm gonna guess that he
goes on IR. That's not really the most professional thing,
but it is something in the back of my mind,
like what does that look like tomorrow? How does that
affect the other fifty three guys that you do end

(35:48):
up picking. Because in theory, let's say you know Jalen Jones,
who I believe is actually having made significant progress, but
someone who had a hamstring injury, Okay, you can designate
him to return from IR, and so technically you would
keep fifty five players. Is just that when those two
players are ready to come back and actually play, you

(36:09):
got to cut another two to keep your fifty three
minute roster fifty three, So just keep that in mind.
I'm getting the weeds a little bit. But long story short,
give you the simplest version. There's probably gonna at least
two players tomorrow who are not on the final roster,
who the Colts would designate to return from injury at
some point in the season.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Yeah, I'm gonna watch running back. There injuries to Tyler Goodson,
a little bit of Khalil Herbert. Yes, So that would
be a position I'll watch. You brought up Jalen Jones
a corner that would be another one. And then I've
got to go to linebacker with Jalen Carlis. We have
not seen him in a couple of weeks. He's had
a boot on that right ankle. Fifth round pick last
year out of Missouri, the thought was he could start

(36:47):
next Desire Franklin this year. That is not going to happen,
and so that would be another area that I would watch.
Do you guys think the heat is on? Like, are
we I'm burning up in here?

Speaker 5 (36:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (36:58):
I was gonna say crack of the door. I'm like, yeah,
I told you it was hot in here.

Speaker 7 (37:03):
I walked in yesterday to do the fever game Mick
who turned the heat on in here.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
James is cutting weight for wrestling without he's here, And
obviously I'm very skinny.

Speaker 6 (37:11):
I can't be cutting weight when you cramp it out
like those Warrant Central players man coh.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Wait, all of a sudden, were gonna have a feather
over there, Lena's the rest of the show. Well, one thing, also,
just keep it different. I know, gosh, that feels great
once you did that. Maybe trades, I think around the
league we've already seen I don't know eight ten trades.
The Colts have done this before, not a ton under
Chris Baward. But James, if you're deep with what lawan

(37:38):
treadwell or white out, and all of a sudden you
need a white out. You brought the forty nine ers,
I think earlier, and I look at the forty nine
ers roster and I like your corner depth. I might say, hey,
we're gonna cut this guy, You're gonna cut that guy.
Let's not expose them to waivers. Let's just trade. And
that's something also to keep an eye on. So again,
I know a lot of this you really can get

(37:59):
in the weeds on, but that is what life in
the NFL is about here for the next thirty six hours.
Yes it is.

Speaker 6 (38:07):
And honestly, again, I feel like I get a kick
out of trying to see how many players I get
right on a fifty three man roster. I don't know
if I've ever gotten one hundred percent right, Kevin, have you?

Speaker 8 (38:16):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (38:16):
I don't. I think I'm usually like a fifty one,
fifty or fifty one. Yeah, no way I've ever gotten
all fifty three. I'm still chasing. If I did, I
think Maddi would probably leave me.

Speaker 7 (38:25):
Who do you think is the best roster hit rate
on the beat reporters?

Speaker 1 (38:29):
I probably go Joel.

Speaker 6 (38:30):
I think Joel has gotten all fifty three before, and
he seems to make like the calculated guesses better than me.
I feel like I'm always just like, there's no way
they're going to move on from this guy, and they
do it, and it's like, well, then Joel will tell
me and school me, well, this is exactly why they
did it, YadA YadA, YadA.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Gosh, Joel differed so much with me, that's probably not
a good thing for me.

Speaker 6 (38:51):
I know, maybe Chap as well, because he's just been
around enough. And but yeah, I don't know. I'm a
little hard on myself. I think me and you might
have been identical, Kevin, And I think me, you, and
maybe Jake Arthur might have been identical. So I'll sit
next to him. I was doing mine, and maybe that's
part of it is I'm asking guys like, what.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Have you done? What have I done? Am I doing
this right?

Speaker 9 (39:11):
Like?

Speaker 6 (39:12):
And so even just counting to fifty three, My biggest
fear of Kevin is one of these years, I'd put
it out there, I'm a fifty two. I didn't count right,
or I didn't add up things right, I'm at fifty four,
and so yeah, the double counting and the making sure
the calculator is correct. Yeah, because I'm like, there's nothing
worse than somebody comments and like there's fifty two players here, James,
and I'm like, ah, yeah, my bad.

Speaker 7 (39:33):
That's just James being a tough grade, like we didn't
have enough. We didn't have fifty three good player right,
That's exactly yeah, message to what he thinks of the roster.
I got some uber cults positivity to throw your way
coming up here in a few I'm afraid you might
but tumbo it.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
But I'm still gonna throw it your way. Dang, am
I that negative? Well, it might be depending on what
it is. I don't know. I think you might poke
some holes in it. So I will toss that your
way coming up. Mark, are we believing in the Cubs?
Is this is this happening? Is this a thing? Is
this just a uh laid off? Maybe? Kyle Tuk answer right,
there was no. Well no, I'm thinking. I mean, the

(40:10):
Reds are clinging to life support here. They look like
my kids trying to swim right now. I mean, there's
no chance in the world that they're going to survive here,
and your Cubs just have a sweep and you and
it's met with.

Speaker 7 (40:21):
There's also the Angels who are terrible. But but Kyle
Tucker has been in like a seven weeks slump. Legit
like seven weeks slump. He went yard a couple times
in the series, started to, you know, maybe heat up
the bat a little bit. So if him and Pete
Crow arms Strong and whatnot can get going, you know,
we could see the Colts have the easiest or the
Colts the Cubs have the easiest remaining schedule in MLB.

(40:43):
So let's take advantage. Let's take advantage of this thing.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Hopefully Indian apples Indians back at home this week again
looks to be a great, great weather week. TJ McConnell
night on Wednesday, What did we say? You have to
slide into first base every player for the Indians? What
are other you have to hype up after every out?
You have to go like this to the crowd and
you gotta you gotta pump up the crowd. Any other
TJ McConnell isms that have to be there on Wednesday night?

Speaker 7 (41:07):
I think you have to every outfield has to run
from the dugout to the outfield.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
You go pull the poll before the inning starts. Mm hmm.

Speaker 7 (41:16):
Now he better not dirt that first pitch either. He's
got to.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
We need to.

Speaker 6 (41:20):
He wouldn't do that. Oh, DJ strikes me as somebody
who has a clue. I feel like it's I feel
like people half asked the first pitch way too much.
I feel like they underestimated to me, like they get nervous.
Like remember Alex Pierce describing it earlier in the offseason.
He did it at the Cubs game, and you know
he tried and Alex Peers, by all accounts a wonderful athlete.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Outside of football. Yeah, you would think he would be
able to chuck one in there pretty good. And he's like, yeah,
I hopped it. I don't know. It was the mascot.
The mascot had the big glove and I got nervous
and the cub clerk. The cub did nothing wrong there,
Just gun one eighty two on the on the outer half.

Speaker 6 (41:58):
Okay, do this with warm up and just going through it.

Speaker 7 (42:02):
And you're going on the mound. I feel like that
warm up underneath for all I care. No one warms
up for a first pitch just to.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Go out to the bull. No, no, your bullpen catch
you all right. I need a still around warm up
for your ceremonial first.

Speaker 7 (42:18):
Mean I have heard people that do for like they
practice in their yard ahead of time, like that's.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Where the warming up at the actual stadium. No, you
need to know the diamond. You need to go to
Skyle's test or round tripper, get stretched out by the trainer,
sneak on one of the thousand fields, a grand park
until the rubber. Let's go get the lat bands going. Mark.
If the Indian apples Indians ask Mark Dyke Dion come
out and throw the first pitch. There is no chance
in hell you're hopping it. You are delivering it. There

(42:45):
is no way with no warm up, just walk out there.
When's last time you throw a baseball that far?

Speaker 7 (42:51):
In seriousness, I'd be smoking the kids if I threw
it as hard as I wanted to know that far,
I don't know, probably was back with Ashley or something.
Back when we're does like it's been a while, you
can still get it the catcher.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
You don't go in front of the plate, you go
behind the plate. You are behind the plate. And I
want the number one.

Speaker 6 (43:11):
We know what we can settle this Indianapolis. Any if
you listening, please let Kevin Bowen have a ceremonial first
pitch one.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Of these days. Please. I want to see this tupperware
night for Juji McConnell, like he brings in the Moms
spaghetti he had before.

Speaker 5 (43:25):
See.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
I want to do it.

Speaker 7 (43:26):
I want to do a first pitch, but I want
to chase it with a beer bat first. So even
if you even if you dirt it, say no more.
You're getting the fans cheering.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Unbelievable. If you want to WATCHO, Mike and Y m
c a before it. You want you want to touch
Rowdy's nose before you throw the first pitch, and.

Speaker 6 (43:42):
That uh, if you are trying to do te Day
McConnell night, you have to touch the ground and then
point up to the sky.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
He does do that at the field. He does the
soccer thing right before he uh, before he enters an
NBA game. All right, plenty to get to eight o'clock hour,
I've got again some big positives to throw out on
the Colts here in the of August. We'll see how
much holes get poked into them. A lot to recap
from what was a busy, busy sports weekend. We'll hit
on that as well. Kevin Bow and James Wood Mark

(44:09):
Dykton right here on ninety three five when I was
seven the fan yees, thirty eight seconds remain Leonard. Meanwhile,
back to throw on second in ten, Gonna lock one
downfield for Treadwell.

Speaker 10 (44:19):
He's got inside the twenty tene and.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
He walked into the edd.

Speaker 10 (44:23):
Jone look one Treadwell, Yes, sir, up bomb right all
the money by Riley Leonard.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Yeah, man, it's been a while since connected on one
of those. Your eyes just kind of light up. It
didn't even cross my mind to keep the football. Got
back to the locker room at halftime and and comes
up to me and hands me the ball. I had
no idea what he was doing. I was like, yes,
this is nice football, and he just can't He didn't
say anything. I was like, it nice and he's handing
back to me like three times. He's like and then
I realized what he was doing. But uh yeah, shout

(44:53):
out to him. That meant a lot to me.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
I thought it was a hell of a team effort
com by both sides of football, really all three phases.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
I thought we.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Played comfort and he the ball all the.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Way through the game.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
With those young guys going out there could bet and
gave great effort. A lot of guys showed up, obviously
d Scott getting the pick six there to go up ten.

Speaker 11 (45:08):
Nothing was huge could so that absolute routes of the
Cincinnati Bengals on Saturday afternoon.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Mark Dyke didn't thank you for putting together. So I'm
Riley Leonard and Shane Stike and well here all weekend.

Speaker 7 (45:23):
He had, I had nothing else to do. You're gonna
fix I'm gonna fix the heater next too. That's the
next thing I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Matt Taylor highlights, Michael Benson run if you haven't been
outside yet, there's a chill in the air. Certainly feels
great though, But yeah, you need up coming the studio.
I was gonna say, we got a sna in this
studio here. Hopefully when Jeff returns tomorrow he can you know,
let the powers that be no, we need.

Speaker 6 (45:45):
To have some folks who are accusing him of messing
with the thermostat on his way out.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Well, he's a big pants guy, so it would probably
fit his weather.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
Right.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
I've seen him rock pants out of golf out he
when it's one hundred degrees outside. I was like, how
are you not passing out right now? I thought he
was on the PG tour home rock in the pants. Hey,
he's a former man. Tommy Fleetwood, Jeff Rick dress better
you Twoe, Jeff. We'll be back tomorrow. Kevin Bowen, James Boyd,
Mark Diyketon with Pale five James We deal with it.
Talked a lot about Riley Leonard and Lawon Treadwell on

(46:14):
the seven o'clock hour. You heard Shane Stiken mentioned the
name of Daniel Scott James A pick six', four the
former fifth round pick out of Cow you mind sharing
with our audience a little bit about The Daniel scott,
story BECAUSE i do think given the safety, position he
might be one play. Away he's probably the third, safety RIGHT.

Speaker 6 (46:37):
I was gonna, say you sound Like Shane, Stiken but,
yes he certainly is a lot to make the. Team
in my, EYES i had him on a fifty three
men roster and to give you all the backstory. There
So Daniel scott was a fifth round PICK i believe
in twenty twenty. Three in twenty twenty, THREE i believe
he tore HIS acl in the. Spring didn't he make
it to Like OTA's Through OTAs missed his entire rookie,

(46:59):
season comes back last year tears', achilles And ota is
in the preseason and the, spring misses all of last.
Season so this is a guy, who again fifth round,
pick hasn't played even though he's going into his third
year with The. Colts and so he had the pick
six On, saturday thirty five yard pick six in that

(47:19):
route of The, Bengals and obviously that moment had to
be a huge milestone for him and just something to
really feel good. About we had a chance to talk
to him after the. Game shout out to the ever
amazing learra overten of The colts sideline. Reporter she Showed
Daniel scott the replay of it because he hadn't seen it,
yet WHICH i thought was. Crazy i'm, like you didn't

(47:41):
see this play the first. THING i was looking at
it like when locker room she showed it to. Him
you could tell just how much it meant to, him
AND i thought it was very fitting him being as
selfless as he. Is for What i've heard from not only,
him but his teammates and his. Coaches him saying at the,
end you know the best part with celembry with my,
brothers and so respect to him for just a perseverance
and finding a way. Through AND, i like you, Said,
kevin there's gonna BE i think a key role for

(48:03):
him with this, team.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Probably a special team's role no matter what from day.

Speaker 6 (48:07):
One oh, yeah, Absolutely BUT i meant more so like just,
hey like you, said somebody gets banged, up he's your
next guy in.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
There, yeah and right, Now Nick, cross we haven't seen
him practice in probably a couple of weeks, now so
that'll be something just to keep an eye. On but, Yes,
scott really nice pick six return On saturday there In.
Cincinnati did you make anything out of Like Matt gonzalva
as a starter playing in that, Game Ady mitchell playing
in that, game there was a few more not, starters

(48:39):
but maybe a few more frontline guys THAN i. Thought,
well AND i don't hate on, it let me be very.
CLEAR i Thought Anthony richardson should have played in the.

Speaker 6 (48:47):
Game, yeah and that was sort of and hates always
make it about number, Five BUT i did think, that, Like,
okay if eighty mitchig can go out, there If meganzalvus
can go out, there and he is your starting right
golf and obviously he's one play away from being knocked
out of the game or knocked out for the, season
whatever the case may, be why wouldn't you just Put
Anthey ergison out there as. Well SO i didn't understand.

(49:09):
That but as far as those players go to, ME
i look obviously at maganzalv is.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
More you need.

Speaker 6 (49:15):
Reps Adie, mitchell same. Thing Juju, BRINCE i think just needs.
Reps BUT i, MEAN i don't, know like there is
some toggling you could make with that cornerback room where
he could be on the outside looking. In BUT i
didn't think that anybody was like playing for their like roster.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Life when you mentioned those, players you just, said, YEAH
i want to be careful with HOW i word, this
BECAUSE i know we talked a Lot, friday bless You
mark About Juju brnce and the fact that he was
playing in the. Game and if you're playing in the,
game that's probably not a great sign for where you're
at on the fifty three man. ROSTER i, think AND
i think you were in the same you were on
the same, Page. JAMES i don't THINK i Viewed Juju

(49:56):
brents in that. Light there is part of me it's, like,
man if that man is cut tomorrow at four, O'clock
i'm gonna feel like an idiot because like there are
some tea, Leaves BUT i don't think it's. There like to,
me this is not HOW i felt About Daniel jones
one week ago. Today one week ago, TODAY i, Felt,
OKAY i Think Daniel jones is gonna be named the starting.

(50:17):
Quarterback i'm not there With Juju. Brents there is a
little part of, me Like jake just teased, it coming
back there from the. Break j just, teased you, know
is there a surprise? CUT.

Speaker 5 (50:27):
I i.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Know that's like the juicy topic we all want to
talk about this time of. Year we do it Every
monday of roster, cut you, know a. Week BUT i
really don't Think juju is that because also at, corner
as you've brought Up, james you, Know Jalen jones right
now is dealing with an injury THAT i think is
further Behind juju obviously played On sunday Or. Saturday Jalen

(50:49):
jones is. Not SO i don't think he's one of those.
Names but you, know part of me is, like, Well
kevin read some tea leaves, here it's a new defense,
coordinator no one's, safe blah blah. Blah But i'm not
going to go down that path just. Yet that's kind
of Where i'm.

Speaker 6 (51:05):
At but on the flip, SIDE i thought that there
were some players that showed some, stuff AND i think,
Again Isaiah land is the one Where i'm, like, man,
yes on this roster is he? Not BECAUSE i went
more towards the defensive, tackles at least in some of
my like fringe, picks BECAUSE i thought they just need
a little bit more depth, there but, again could he

(51:28):
make it Over Audi, TAMAWA i don't, Know Like Aaidi
tamawa has been a special teams.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
Guy so, again this is Where.

Speaker 6 (51:37):
I'm just grateful not to be in the position of
having him pick fifty three players because it's really hard
and as we've, said the fifty three you pick to
start off the, season those fifty three will not necessarily
be the same in like a week anyway because of the.
Tackling so it's, LIKE i do all this work to

(51:58):
try to get my guesses right and it doesn't matter
because they'd changed it in a day or two. Anyway
but that's kind of WHERE i.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Stand trevin, SAYS i Think shane uh didn't want to
Play anthony because he didn't want him to, dominate which
would then lead To shane having to hear it from.
Everyone so if.

Speaker 7 (52:17):
Couldn't you just, counter if You're shane and, say what
was against threes and?

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Fours hear me out? Here can you imagine the open
beef That mark just started right there with that. Scenario
can you imagine If Anthony richardson had the exact game
That Riley leonard had On? SATURDAY i mean you got. Boy,
okay NOW i see what you're. Saying, yeah you got
people right now Wanting Riley leonard to BE qb. One
can you imagine IF i was?

Speaker 6 (52:37):
Reward, yeah this is Like Sdura sanders And i'm. JOKING
i do not believe anything that's really going on In
cleveland right. Now that's why the quarterback conversation. Goes BUT
i do think the narrative and the conversation will be.
Crazy we would open the show with.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
That got to throw up some uber positive cults thoughts
your way.

Speaker 6 (52:56):
Feel free And i'm getting my tumble finger wag right.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
Now i'm, afraid all right right. Now in the month Of,
august The colts finished the preseason as the NFL's top pass.
Defense they finished the preseason as the fourth best offense
in the ENTIRE, nfl first in rushing yards per, attempt

(53:24):
league leaders The Indianapolis. Colts in the month Of, august
how about that hang a banner inside Of Lucas Oil
stadium For week, one best pass defense in the, league
best rushing offense in the, league fourth total. Offense greenboos

(53:45):
everything that's? Wonderful are? You are you poking holes in?
It are you going to agree and, say.

Speaker 6 (53:57):
A lot of this happened against the Lowly. Bengals who
ever played defense?

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Ever, well The, bengals what do you mean all The,
Bengals all The bengals play no. Defense maybe a little
bit of The packers top pass EVEN i put forty
one up against the that's the that Was Malik willis
in the. PAST i don't even know who the quarterback.
Was you're trying to be. Positive have you brought up a? Loss,
No so you are ripping up my, positivity throwing it

(54:24):
right back in my, face.

Speaker 6 (54:27):
Saying i'm, saying can we get a little bit of
some guardfraels on this right?

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Now because the best pass defense in THE nfl last
time win a month of playing. FOOTBALL i don't care
what the month. Is the month could be Freaking march Or,
april and they were the best pass defense with all those.
Injuries think about how many secondary injuries that there were
a slew of, them and yet they were the stickiest

(54:51):
pass defense in the ENTIRE. NFL i THINK i could
probably hear some flowers for the.

Speaker 6 (54:56):
Secondary but once you, say like, anything, offensively they got
boosted by.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
A Team bentley The force family shout out to The
bentley's and it was It Nate. Noel is that the
other runner that was kind of taken off there in
the fourth? Quarter, OH i know.

Speaker 6 (55:12):
WAS i talked to A bentley after the game and
it actually spoke back to. Me it was it was
quite you, know. INTRIGUING i did ask him on my price. Range,
YEAH i did ask. HIM i, said you, know are
you okay with my phrase of driving The? Bentley and
he was, like, well you got a lot of nicknames coming.
Up he did say, that, uh Did Matt taylor go?

Speaker 1 (55:28):
There mark?

Speaker 5 (55:28):
Did he.

Speaker 6 (55:29):
DIDN'T i heard it. Back he did not go. THERE
i wanted him to so. Bad driving To, BENTLEY i
think is a fine way to describe that young.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Man he. DID i talked to him.

Speaker 6 (55:39):
Briefly he didn't mention, that you, know there it is
a little weird because he's been a good player all
of his, life, obviously and not knowing what's, next not,
knowing you, know if he'll be with The. Colts but
he didn't mention that he's thankful that The colts give
him a chance to go out there and play and
kind of show some, stuff find some pay dirt and
obviously hopefully get picked up by somebody else if not
staying with The.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Colts Scrooge boyd is being here in the YouTube chat
to Describe James boyd reacting to my positivity here from The.

Speaker 6 (56:06):
Colts, well you, KNOW i have a bit of a.
Scrooge now you're talking to somebody who didn't believe In santa.

Speaker 8 (56:11):
Ever.

Speaker 7 (56:12):
Geez, okay So james, Saying i'm just, saying we got
people driving school right.

Speaker 6 (56:19):
Now the people driving are not big child in The Santa, Okay.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Chris, kringle we greatly await you. On he ain't exist
in my. Household Mike. MARTIN i mean we Need jeff
back more than, Ever James charlotte for a. Week let's
get back on the, sunshine green. Bows everything that's wonderful

(56:47):
is what we just lost a third of our listening.
Audience lords in the.

Speaker 7 (56:50):
Car, here four, letter back to back to back.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Grief so no one wants any of my positive nature
for The. Colts you. DON'T i genuinely think. THIS i
just watched The colts play three preseason. GAMES i just
watched The colts whatever twelve thirteen training camp. PRACTICES i
was genuinely impressed by the pass DEFENSE i thought the

(57:18):
coverage was oftentimes, sticky tight. WINDOWS i didn't see a
lot of free access. THROWS i didn't see a lot
of here you, go there's ten. Yards for the most,
PART i thought they did a really nice job in
playing tighter. Coverage SO i don't, Know maybe it means absolutely.
Nothing didn't The lions go undefeated in the preseason the

(57:38):
year they went oh?

Speaker 7 (57:38):
Sixteen, yeah but my, buddy who is A lions, fan
of A t shirt that said Preseason. Champs he still
wears it probably to this.

Speaker 6 (57:44):
Day we also have shown the YouTube show who said
my kids are crying now Hearing santa isn't?

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Real Thanks, James, sorry unfreaking. Believable gotta.

Speaker 6 (57:53):
Believe, well you got a few months to you, know
a lot of them some more and you know reverse.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
It so you got time on the. Street Is Matt
taylor did drop A bentley? Reference did you listen to both? Touchdowns?

Speaker 5 (58:04):
Mark?

Speaker 1 (58:05):
NO i can Find, OH i always listen to the first.
One does he make the? Team James bentley the? FOURTH
i think he's a really tough.

Speaker 6 (58:12):
ONE i had him on the outside looking.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
In he's one of those ones where if they Put
Tyler goodson ON ir tomorrow to return. Later do you
Put bentley on the team right now FOR x amount of?
WEEKS i do think that's a. POSSIBILITY i think he
actually showed some. Stuff and also.

Speaker 6 (58:33):
What would that look like if you were, to for,
example look at a guy Like Khalil herbert and he's
gonna miss some time WITH i believe it was a
hamstring or a.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Groin it was something.

Speaker 6 (58:43):
Back to practice last week very lately. Though, yeah SO
i just wonder how that could all shake. Out but
AGAIN i thought for a guy like, him he got
an opportunity to show some stuff and at least you
leave with some. Positivity kevin and the coaches have.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Mine man breaking the colt's positivity like it's nothing and
then just ripping hearts out of our young. Children. Here
nothing has Said James boyd is going the birth control
route like those comments.

Speaker 6 (59:13):
There that is probably that's the most like non parents
and the Thing i've done it in quite some.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Time winner out of the. Gun bentley, too is bright
as the. Back they give it To, bentley then he's in.

Speaker 10 (59:22):
There, Touchdown Ulyssi's bentley driving That bitley across the goal.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Line, yes, sir and The colts now leading sixteen to.
Seven hold that back a few. MARKS i missed playing
that one more. TIME I leonard out of the. Gun bentley,
too is bright as the. Back they give it To,
bentley then he's in.

Speaker 10 (59:39):
There, Touchdown Ulyssi's bentley driving That bitley across the goal. Line, yes,
sir and The colts now leading sixteen to.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Seven god bless Mad. Taylor that, wonderful wonderful in the
last hour of preseason, football you've got to come up
with some, energy and he.

Speaker 6 (59:56):
Did i'm just Picturing CARL Rsa. Gordon remember she drove
The billy for a few weeks last. YEAR i want
to say Her carma'd have been in the. SHOP i
don't know what the scenario was, there BUT i Saw
bentley parked outside of The colts and now we have
two of them with this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Franchise here you go. Again roster cuts coming up four o'clock.
Tomorrow will continue to get into some of the weeds
with that. Stuff it was a, busy busy sports. Weekend
let's recap it here on a morning checked out The.

Speaker 9 (01:00:21):
Morning checkdown on ninety sweet five and one oh seven
five the band.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
So, again four o'clock tomorrow ninety becomes fifty, three you
will see cuts trickle. OUT i think you've already seen
some here this. Weekend The colts typically have been a
team that waits all the way up until the, deadline
and we'll see any last minute. Trades that is something
you typically see around THE nfl this time of. Year,
hey we're gonna cut this, Guy you're gonna cut that.
Guy let's just trade them because we need some roster depth.

(01:00:47):
There so something to watch as we get closer to
four o'clock coming up. Tomorrow it was a late night
in this studio From mark Dyked. In he was Producing
fever and links And mark that one got away The
fever there in the second quarter and A Fista, collier
very good at, basketball who returned to the. Lineup she
looked like AN. Mvp and, now ooh, Boy fever that

(01:01:09):
on thin. Ice when it comes to their playoff, standings
they are eighth right now started out well for The fever.

Speaker 7 (01:01:14):
Too they led it the end of the first quarter
and then say first quarter And minnesota went off on
like a sixteen to nothing run and it was that
was a wrap after that And fever had no answers
once that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Happened so they've got The storm at home tomorrow that
would Be, seattle and then they head out west and
that western trip begins at The La sparks and The
Golden State. Valkyries right, NOW i, said The fever are in.
Eighth The storm they play tomorrow sixth a half game above.
Them The, valkyries who they play this weekend tied right,

(01:01:44):
now they have the tie, breakers so they're technically. Seventh
and The, sparks who The fever play On, friday they
are one game back in. Ninth so you have six
through nine separated by one and a half, games and
The fever play all three of those teams in the
next handful of. Days so it is an absolutely, massive
massive week for The Caitlyn Clarkless. Fever DID i see

(01:02:08):
she was doing like a walk through situation? HERE i
don't know If i'm ready to make a lot of.
It are you ready to make something of her? Return?

Speaker 6 (01:02:15):
NO i think at this point when you tell me
she's going to be available to, play that's Why i'll
believe to she available to. Play speaking of, returns what
about The Feci collier coming back and dropping thirty two
points and looking like she never missed any. Time how
about that for a? Return so obviously for The fever's,
purposes they hope that they can get the same from their.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Star very good at. Basketball THE pisa call here all,
right Major League? Baseball right? Now The cubs they sweep The.
Angels they have created hope in some people's, Minds but
honestly they sound Like James boyd With christmas In Mark beigen's.

Speaker 7 (01:02:44):
Mind, YEAH i, Mean i'm pacing myself a little bit
because it could have had no little business a little
better Against.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Milwaukee but you swooped The. Angels that's.

Speaker 7 (01:02:51):
Good and the fact that The brewers lost two out
of three of The giants that is also. Good so
big series upcoming for The cubs and The.

Speaker 6 (01:02:57):
Brewers i'm laughing at this. Comment Everanezer void is. Hilarious,
god that's a great. Line CAN i call you Eb,
voyd Eb?

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Boyd that's that's good. STANDING i deserved that.

Speaker 8 (01:03:11):
One that was.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Funny shout out To Christian arrest is my. Favorite. Hilarious
oh that's even. Better oh, man that's. Excellent. There christian
harass me said quite the pass on the outside Of
Alex pelow there with about fifteen to go In milwaukee
yesterday The oval up. There you don't See Alex pelow
as a sitting duck very, often but Ras Me sin
of all, people made him look like that in passing

(01:03:34):
him for his first career, win the first win For
Ed Carpenter racing since twenty twenty? One DID i? See
Nathan brown had a report In The Indie star earlier
today That Red bull is Pursuing Alex polow for THEIR
f one spot and that's is that next To max
for stopping then would that be quite the? Headline that

(01:03:59):
would BE i think talk about Something Indy car does
not eat at. All boy doesn't sound good at. All
season finale In nashville coming up On, Sunday so we'll
continue to. MONITOR i feel like every year we get
the rumors of Oh Poto WARD f, one colt NERDOD f.
ONE i don't. Know Maybe pelo's dominance In Indy carr
and the eighty five hundred win has him thinking. Otherwise

(01:04:19):
shout out To, Fairway. Jesus Tommy fleetwood gets it done
yesterday and The tour championship that is a ten million dollar.
Win Ball account's a pretty cool story there AND i
think Pg tour players have always offered plenty of praise
for their. Colleague Tommy fleetwood had not won yet on
THE Pga tour one hundred and sixty four career, starts

(01:04:39):
thirty top. Fives there you Hat Caitlyn clark tweeting twice
About Tommy fleetwood and getting it done On, sunday you
can see where her golf passion. Lies and OTHER nfl
News aidan, O'Connell The purdue, quarterback a risk. FRACTURE i
believe he was in line to be or compete for
The Gino smith backup job there with The. Raiders he's

(01:04:59):
out six to eight. Weeks And Carson, wentz the backup
quarterback for The Minnesota. Vikings Carson wentz just executed a
wonderful last. Month the man played golf At Holiday farms
seemingly every. Day he threw to some receivers occasionally At Trader's,
point and he now becomes a backup quarterback while missing
an entire training. Camp Has Carson wentz earned that?

Speaker 6 (01:05:24):
STATUS i, mean you aren't what people are willing to give,
you so, YEAH i guess. So and in the minds
of many, people he probably is a high, end, backup spot.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Start but he's earned, it like he doesn't need to
show up to training. CAMP i, mean that's that's like
quite the.

Speaker 6 (01:05:43):
Praise so is AM i AM i allowed to you,
know not hate at this moment in. Time i've done
enough hating this. Morning, Wow So i'll let you go
ahead and go.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Ahead Ibbie boyd.

Speaker 5 (01:05:56):
Void.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Humbug that is outset stand that is.

Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
Great.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
YEAH i don't. KNOW i just don't Think Carson. WENTZ
i don't. Know maybe his career has earned. That so
there you, Go, Ryan, kelly Will, Fries Ryan, Grigson Carson
wentz all together with The Minnesota, vikings the cults of
THE Nfc North.

Speaker 7 (01:06:12):
Aaron rodgers And Carson wentz both get to skip team
activities and just get on the.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Roster to be, FAIR i Think rodgers resume slightly different
than Old Carson. Wentz apparently. Not that's neither here nor.
There some surprising News friday that was sent, out so
we'll get the thoughts on. THAT i thought it was
a very interesting release of the news and comments regarding
The Indiana. Pacers we'll throw that coming up your way

(01:06:38):
and continue the. Conversation it IS us Three kevin bell
And James, Boyd Mark, dyked and thank you for beginning
your week with us right here on The Fan Morning
SHOW a ninety three five one oh seven five The.

Speaker 9 (01:06:46):
Fan you're listening to a Fan morning show.

Speaker 5 (01:07:08):
With The Greasy black peas.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
Well the reatry should tell you everything you need to
know about Where James bloyd was about twenty minutes. AGO i.

Speaker 6 (01:07:17):
WAS i was busily trying to figure, Out, okay how
DO i get A santa? Costume and how DO i
ruin more children's.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
LIVES i don't think we'll go down that path here
again with oh yeah he's, uh he's totally real and
Uh boyd cheer and everything else save Our. Chris what
are we five months away From? Kringle, yeah the.

Speaker 6 (01:07:37):
Chat someone was telling me THAT i need, to you,
know perhaps wear A santa suit Come christmas week, show
so be able to look out for.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
THAT i might have to play ball. There that's a
voice Of James. Boyd I'm Kevin Bellen Mark dyke did
on The ones In Tunes got to be A?

Speaker 7 (01:07:52):
Reindeer have him put the reindeer? Costume the reindeer, Costume Jeff,
rudolph what's The?

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Grinches? Dogs And max Be. Max you have A max
the Dog. Man that was the biggest reason WHY i
didn't want us to Name. Max every DOG i meet Is.
Max it's gotta be the most popular human dog, name.

Speaker 6 (01:08:08):
RIGHT i hadn't even thought about, that but, yeah that
that is a dog.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Name we're literally having lunch, yesterday dog and you, know
the guy and his dog shows up next thing you,
know he's telling him Maxit it literally sounds like me
yelling at My. Max, yeah we're A Disney.

Speaker 7 (01:08:22):
World one, time we're getting like our, dog like our
dog that we had at the, time like a dog collar,
thing and his name Is. Parker and this kid came
up and he's, like, oh that's my. Name well that's
our dog's name, too and he actually hit me and he's,
like that was so. Rude i'm, Like i'm telling the.
Truth that's our dog's.

Speaker 6 (01:08:36):
Name so that was like me a few minutes ago
WHEN i was ruining other childhood.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Guys we've. Seen how WAS i saying anything? Rude college
football upon. Us it'll be noon From West lafayette coming
up here On. Saturday that is Ball state taking On.
Perdue That's mike You romovich correct the Old butler coach
is now the Ball state. Coach seventeen and a half
point favorite The boilers here over Ball State indiana old,

(01:09:04):
dominion year two of The Kurt signetti, era twenty two
and a half. Points that doesn't seem like the fact
THAT iu is only favored by five more points Than
purdue doesn't seem to add. Up it's Ball. State that
bad is old? Dominion that?

Speaker 6 (01:09:20):
GOOD i mean you're asking the wrong person.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
Here POSSIBLY i Think i'm just talking out. LOUD i
hope you aren't asking for real now is? Here maybe
that old dominion matchup's been tougher than we.

Speaker 7 (01:09:31):
Thought maybe, right give some credit where Created dons aren't
as soft as everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Whose Schedule, SCROOGE i am. Surprised Notre dame is favorite
on the road At. Miami first time starting. Quarterback miami's
quarterback for those, unfamiliar That's Carson, beck The georgia Transfer
Carson Talking Today. Show he is the starter for The.
Hurricanes Notre dame is a two and a half point. Favorite,
okay so can you give Me Kevin bowen set up.

Speaker 6 (01:09:58):
Nighttime? Kickoff diehard? Fan what does the experience look like for?
You are you a stand up in front of THE
tv the entire. Time, guy are you sitting?

Speaker 8 (01:10:06):
Down?

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
YEAH i stand up for every third down, easily And
i'd SAY i probably stand up FOR i don't, know
maybe fifty percent of the other. Plays you, know sometimes
you just feel like it's a big play even though
it's not a third. Down, yeah it's it's, embarrassing it's
pathetic to, watch.

Speaker 7 (01:10:18):
Like kevin's got like the fake coach headset On two's,
like come on, boys.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Hands on the. Knees super.

Speaker 6 (01:10:26):
So so when a play, works is that just like,
yell fist, Bump but what are we? Doing are you
Grabbing max and saying you know what's? Done we're winning
it all again this.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
YEAR i like to THINK i can be cognizant of
like are they in? Bed are they not in?

Speaker 5 (01:10:38):
Bed?

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
Okay? Fair BUT i MEAN i definitely have some aggressive
grunts or some you, know aggressive, grunts you know how
kind of Like jeff sounds when he comes back from.
Break you know enough to get my emotion, out but
you know enough to you, know walk the. Fire and
SOMETIMES i turn up their sound machines a little bit,
louder you, know when The irish are playing So i'm

(01:10:58):
trying to, think, like have you ever been a moment
where you wanted to?

Speaker 6 (01:11:01):
SCREAM i remember When Damian lillard hit like that forty
foot three pointer to Beat Okay seats in their season
fifty point. GAME i had just come back FROM i don't,
know covering some high school game or something way back
WHEN i lived at home with my. Parents they were all,
asleep AND i wanted to scream so bad BUT i.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Couldn't, well this probably isn't great for me to, say But,
JAMES i MEAN i did go to the national title
game via a media, credential SO i had to behave and.

Speaker 6 (01:11:29):
Oh that must have been like a bit of ugh
like having it but also, purgatory my, goodness.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
And Like Notre dame is making this huge. Comeback, YEAH
i mean that was a game and the place is
going nuts And i'm just like sitting on my. HANDS
i know that was the. Heart that might have been
the hardest three hours of my.

Speaker 7 (01:11:43):
LIFE i REMEMBER i screamed out loud in the middle
of the night because my buddy AND i back in
like high, school were playing like college football two thousand and,
two and he got a walk off touchdown at me
AND i screamed no at the top of my, lungs
and not realizing it was like one in the, morning
my deadcade DOES i got work in the. Morning i'm, like,
SORRY i just got bombed By Chris Wayne.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
Peter warrick just got behind my, depense genuinely.

Speaker 6 (01:12:05):
Screwed it might have been a couple of times in
my apartment during The pacers. Run so like that, shot
The nick, shot when that bounced up and went, IN
i remember, thinking AND i was it wasn't even like a,
cheering it was just LIKE i just, screamed, like oh my.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
GOD i THINK i told you. This maddie would watch
the games, upstairs the endings of the, games and THAT
tv is like a probably second and a half ahead
Of and when he hit the shot against the, thunder she,
screamed AND i think he was driven the ball across half.
Court oh and SO i, literally oh my. Goodness so

(01:12:43):
Now i'm just watching it like how did he do it?
Again LIKE i remember that thought going through my, head
like how did he do it? Again and you know
that one was you, know just a little what eighteen
foot pull up jumper, There, yeah with what's his, Name
Casey wallas, gardenermuh we did get this question in the chat.
HERE i think it Was cody sent, this and we're
talking about a lot about roster cuts, again The colts will.

(01:13:04):
CUT nfl deadline is four o'clock. Tomorrow Jilannie woods is
always a popular, name the former third round pick and
dazzled as a rookie season ending. Injuries each of the
last two years The colts have seen out a rookie.
Contract now this is the final year on his rookie.
DEAL i Have Jilanni woods just outside of the. TEAM

(01:13:24):
i have him on the practice. Squad, JAMES i think
you're on the same. BOAT i think it's really difficult
to find five tight ends on a fifty three men
roster and give them a role Like woods has never
been a special teams, GUY i guess just to point
that out there as, well SO i View, Tyler, Warren Moiley,
Cox Drew, ogletree And Will mallory as the four tight.
Ends cody was asking us if it's anything work ethic

(01:13:45):
wise With Jelanni woods contributing to, That, YES i would say,
no but feel free to. EXPAND i don't think.

Speaker 6 (01:13:52):
SO i think it's literally just the injuries obviously the
last couple of years that have kept him, Out but
then on top of, that the other guys have just
shown MORE i think throughout training.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Camp that's just as simple AS i can put.

Speaker 5 (01:14:04):
IT i.

Speaker 6 (01:14:04):
Know, AGAIN i had some people who push back on
that on social media talk about it in the first
four hour of today's.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Show but to, ME.

Speaker 6 (01:14:12):
I, think Obviously Tyler warren is a. Lock Mullay COX
i think is a. Lock it comes down To Will, Mallory,
Drew Johnny, woods which two of those. THREE i Think
will And drew have shown more consistently throughout training camp
in the preseason Than Julnnie.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Woods AND i think they Like ogle treat as a blocker.

Speaker 6 (01:14:31):
As, well and that's something That Johnny woods does not
do great in my, opinion even though he is a
bigger BODIED i think sixty seven tight.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
END i THOUGHT i had a sneeze. COMING i looked
up at the, sky BUT i didn't. Sneeze is that
is that a? Myth looking?

Speaker 6 (01:14:45):
Up what other myths are out there get you to?

Speaker 5 (01:14:49):
Sneeze?

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
WELL i always feel like looking at the. Sun you
just try to throw quite the myth at the whole
Audiencesh Pray, ma he didn't have the kids in the
car driving.

Speaker 6 (01:15:01):
Them cool with that, Over why are they believing strangers
on the? Radio raise your kids? Better everyone?

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Listening your uncle boyd in the house, Now Uncle, james fair?
Enough this is.

Speaker 6 (01:15:09):
True me and me And nor are kind of locked
in after our you, know a little drawing expertise over
him the.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Whiteboard one day somebody wiped it. OFF i was so.
Mad we did mention this, earlier BUT i want to
get back to it here for just a. Second The
pacers sent out this news release On, friday And JAMES
i was surprised to a at the headline and then
BE i read the press release and it was one
of the more thorough complimentary press releases you'll ever. See,
hell the quote praising this individual was about three times

(01:15:38):
the quote Praising Miles turner upon his. EXIT a mutual
parting of ways Between Mike winer and The Indiana. Pacers
for those Unfamiliar, winer probably you would call him the
top assistant For Rick. CARLISLE i think anytime you Watch pacer,
Games weiner looks like me on third down Of Notre dame.
Games so he's always up And rick has had him

(01:16:00):
alongside him really since His dallas. Days rick had a
super long. Quote you know he started off with been
a friend and a trusted colleague and loyal colleague for
seventeen plus. Years Steven, simon you, know the future owner
of The, pacers called him On twitter a rock star
of the highest. Order SO i don't Know. James in our,

(01:16:23):
industry you oftentimes get press releases about firings mutual parting
of ways like this language, was and it oftentimes doesn't
have a lot of, detail doesn't offer much. Color there's
not a lot of praise in. It this was the exact.
Opposite so you, know when you hear the, headline you

(01:16:43):
think to, yourself, oh, wow could he be taking a job?
ELSEWHERE i don't necessarily read that into, it AND i
will SAY i just hope everything's good With Mike whiner
and his, family because the timing is just a month
before training camps starting, here AND i think he's been
pretty vague with people within the building. Too i'm, like
why he's. Leaving so, YEAH i just hope everything's good with.

(01:17:05):
Him clearly he Helped Rick carla out a bunch over
the last few.

Speaker 6 (01:17:09):
Years, YEAH i would just piggyback off those. Comments you
kind of gave me a the perspective. There kevin, Like,
yeah it could be something in his personal, life but
regardless of what it, is we ultimately wish him the.
BEST i think he's meant a lots of this. Franchise
he meant to lots Of Rick, carlisle as we saw
in that, release AND i think if and when he
wants to coach, again he will have that opportunity waiting on.

Speaker 5 (01:17:31):
Him there's a.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Port a few weeks ago that he had turned down
The knicks And Mike brown to be their top, assistant,
Right and so you, KNOW i THINK i said this
When rick signed his extension last. WEEK i was, like,
man it's pretty rare to see the coaching staff intact. Again,
yeah and sure enough this news. Item so, then in a,
way that does open up a spot for The. PACERS
i would assume in due time they will fill that

(01:17:54):
gap with someone they believe can help them go through
which will be a very unique season for The pacer
is where the expectations are, high but they're not what
they were Had halliburton been. Healthy also shout out To
tyrese having this camp over the weekend over In, WESTWOOD
i believe over at The Pacers athletic And Event. Center
we saw him walking around in the boot in the ref.

Speaker 6 (01:18:16):
Shirt he was saying there's no timeline for his, return
won't play the upcoming, season but he has been inspired
By Isiah jackson And James wiseman coming back from their achilles.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
Tear i'm curious you Bumped Jim boyle into the front
of the. Bench So Jenny, Busick Lloyd, Pierce Jim boylan
who has been a you, KNOW nba head, coach and you,
KNOW i Think rick obviously brought him on for a. Reason,
yeah you, know a couple other people that could go with.
Internally but, yeah about what do we about a month
away probably from training? Camp the crazy to say here

(01:18:45):
for The, PACERS i know it is. Crazy plenty of colts.
Conversation we'll go To New york coming up nine o'clock.
Hour Pat leonard covers The. Giants what did he witness
in The Daniel jones time? There how do we look
at that from a colt's? Perspective And Nate atkins covers
The colts for The. Star but that is not HOW
i will introduce. Him probably. AFTER i don't know. TODAY
i think he tweeted out last night and this will

(01:19:06):
be his last radio interview as a member of The colts,
Beat So nate moving, On BUT i think good things
are in order for him coming up on the other.
Side where are The colts? At from a roster cut?
Standpoint what are we watching for over the next twenty four?
Hours we'll hit that next here fan morning. Show you, Know,
honestly WHEN i opened up the door this, morning my

(01:19:28):
first thought was is college game day? Today is it
eleven fifty five? Am And i'm huddled around THE? Tv
that does bring great, vibes? Ma'am that weather to me just,
screamed scream college. Football they Dad James wood going back
in the house to put on one more layer very,

(01:19:50):
SMARTLY i SIM i regretted. It but more than, anything
college football's. Here and that means My saturday tradition is.

Speaker 6 (01:19:58):
Back, yeah and that tradition wouldn't be neglecting our responsibilities
to watch, football, right because that's.

Speaker 5 (01:20:05):
WHAT i try to.

Speaker 6 (01:20:06):
DO i, mean obviously a little easier for me being
the single guy with no, kids but, yeah as far
as other, Things i'm, Like i'll get up And i'll,
Clean i'll do all the. Things but once college Game
day gets, There i'm hoping THAT i can sit down
and do.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
Nothing even with.

Speaker 6 (01:20:19):
Some of my schedule for flights leaving to go to
different cities On saturday upcoming, Season i'm trying to get
there relatively early Because i'm like you'd IF i had
to sit in like the airport bar to watch the.
GAME i don't want to be on the plane on
some matchup's going.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
On and they even thought about it like. That, yeah
that is probably a big part of Your saturday cadence
and This saturday right the, game the big big ones
right away the game great So Ohio, State texas college Game,
day the last, One deed Arch man and, yes Indeed
Lee corso's last college game day from legend. There so,

(01:20:55):
YEAH i can't. Wait oh, MAN i love. It the.
Anticipation he is a year for college. Fotball we'll have
some college football related guests about the. Week do our
previews around the, STATE, Iu Notre, Dame, perdue get you
covered for WHAT i think in all three, areas three
very different, seasons BUT i think for their fan, bases
just different levels of anticipation and where you're At purdue

(01:21:18):
obviously trying to get back on stable Ground indiana trying
to say, hey, no, no, no we are a this
is a football program, now which AGAIN i know is
laughable to have thought it a year. Ago But kurtzynt
has created. That and Then Notre. Dame was that a
fluky run or Has Marcus freeman built one of the
best teams in college?

Speaker 6 (01:21:37):
FOOTBALL i will SAY i always get a little jealous
of the programs Like Ohio, State, Texas Notre dame because
at LEAST i could tell us of the students there
because WHEN i was in School Illinois. Bad, yeah it's
like you don't have like that college game day esque.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
Experience even if you didn't.

Speaker 6 (01:21:56):
Have them like come like to so your campus or,
whatever it still is really cool to be a round
in environment when you know it's a high six, game
your team will legitimately. Win it's for all the, marbles
that sort of, thing and so to have sort of
those steaks on the. LINE i think FOR iu in,
particular like week to, WEEK i, mean every game is
gonna be a referendum on your playoff.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
Hopes that's got to be.

Speaker 6 (01:22:20):
Fun if you're you, know an eighteen year, old nineteen
year old student just living that college.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
Life Riley Leonard Laqwan, Treadwell. James let's go with those two.
Names both of them had plenty of, highlights one huge
one to each other in the game On. Saturday and you,
know if you are A colts fan that hasn't been
grinding out the back end of the, roster let the
audience know just kind of what life you expect For

(01:22:45):
Riley leonard here in twenty twenty. Five and even a
guy Like Laqwan, Treadwell.

Speaker 6 (01:22:49):
So For Riley, LEONARD i expect them to BE qb
Three and by THAT i mean what we Saw saturday
was probably the most reps he's gonna get it for
a long time in this. Offense, kevin because and feel
free to chime. In from WHAT i, understand ar will
run the scout team throughout most of the practices throughout

(01:23:13):
the season as the, Backup so that Means Riley lenard
will not get a lot of live bodies to play
against throughout the regular. Season he will not get a
lot of reps in, practice if any at. ALL i,
mean we've heard some of these. Quarterbacks even when it
comes To joe Flac o' last, year saying as the,
backup you barely get any. Snaps as a third screen,
guy you're not getting any throughout the. Week so how
does his development plan still? Go as the coach wanted,

(01:23:36):
to how does he get? Better i'm very curious toe
how those conversations, go because this is a guy, who
again For Riley, lenard he's been the man wherever he's
played or gone his entire, life And i'll be curious
to talk to him maybe about like week, six week,
seven whatever the case may.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Be, hey how is it? Now what are you doing
to get? Better what have you? Learned is it?

Speaker 6 (01:23:55):
MORE i don't know vr to get reps that way
after her coaches mentioned.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
That so that's sort of his outlook in my.

Speaker 6 (01:24:01):
Opinion barring injury to one of the other top guys
and him BECOMING qb, two then it changes a. Lot
and then For Lawan, TREADWELL i think it's another year
fighting on the practice. Squad The coats will certainly welcome him,
back and then in a way still trying to show
other teams that, hey if you need a, guy then
go out there and play for you On, sundays which
is ultimately what these guys. WANT i can do that

(01:24:22):
because for, him a lot of those practice squad Guys
i've talked to him about. This their wednesdays are kind
of like game day where you go over the install
a lout of your prep for the, week what you
want to do against the other. Team that's when they
kind of get up and they're, like all, RIGHT i
get a chance to play more football. Today and so
those are the two BREAKDOWNS i will give.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
You yeah to, Me leonard is now your New Sam,
ellinger you, know kind of in that third emergency quarterback. Role,
yes he's now your new developmental, project but you, know
obviously pretty far down the. Wrung if an injury, OCCURS
i would be curious would they be comfortable just having
him be the game day backup or would they go
out and look for a veteran at? All you know With,
treadwell you brought up other teams around the. LEAGUE i am. Curious,

(01:25:01):
james are The colts fielding any calls For treadwell? Today and,
again fielding calls this time of year typically is, like,
hey you guys are probably going to cut that dude right,
well we think you have a need at this. Position
we're probably going to cut this. Guy do you want
to swap? Them, Now, hey we have The lakwan Tread
well at cornerback or. Linebacker do you want to trade

(01:25:24):
and kind of get around some of the roster cut
sort of. Mechanics so you do see. THAT i mean
we've already seen it here over the. Weekend you, Know Sam,
hall for, example you saw was traded yesterday in The
vikings quarterback over to The.

Speaker 6 (01:25:35):
Eagles so and that was so The vikings could sign
Former colts Quarterback Carson wentz.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
Exactly so that is SOMETHING i think to keep an eye.
On but you, know Tread, well there is a level
with now how practice squads are. Treated increased pay and
you can be called up what is it three times.

Speaker 6 (01:25:51):
A, Year, YES i believe so before they have to
put you on the official.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
Fifty three minutes roster for the rest of the. Year
life on the practice squad's prett dam. Good oh it's
not like we went over the money last week and
not just the money. Again now with these call, ups
you're you're really in great. Shape it's not maybe as
restrictive as it used to. Be it still was obviously
pretty good, money but not as restrictive as it used to.
Be but again at wide, Out james AND i are

(01:26:18):
in the same. Boat we've got. Six It's Michael Pittman,
Junior It's Alec, Pierce it's Ad, Mitchell Josh, Downs Anthony.
Gould one injury Question i'm curious about Is Ashton. Doolan
he didn't he got HURT i think in The tuesday
practice last, week AND i don't think we've seen him.
Since where's he at health? Wise because if he is

(01:26:38):
banged up all of a, sudden you, know tried well
might be on the fifty three minute. Oster, yeah real,
QUICK i know we got to go To.

Speaker 6 (01:26:44):
Bragg but here's the breakdown of what you get paid
if you're a practice squad. God according To MacRae Greg,
auman who covers THE i want to, say is it
THE Afc south For i'm SORRY Nfc, South i'm sorry
For Fox and he says, here rookies get THIRTEEN k a,
week where it translates to two hundred and thirty four
thousand dollars over the entire, season and then veterans Like

(01:27:06):
Lawan trudwell can make between, seventeen five hundred and twenty
two thousand dollars a, week which works out to be
between three and fifteen thousand dollars and three hundred ninety
six thousand. Dollars SO i KNOW i spoke kind of fast,
there but, nevertheless there is money available for these guys all.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
Right on the other, Side Daniel, jones what was life
like with The New York giants for? Him Pat leonard
Covered daniel there with The. Giants he'll join us next
talk about. That fan mornahow here nine o'clock hour on a.
Month we've been talking a lot About colts roster cuts.
Today I'm Kevin, Bowen James boyd And Mark dyke did
alongside Jeff rickord will be rejoining us coming up tomorrow.

(01:27:43):
Again roster cuts four o'clock due by. Tomorrow the cults
are typically gone all the way up into the, deadline
and they had a quarterback, DEADLINE i guess last, week
and we heard that news coming out On. Tuesday it
will Be Daniel jones as the starter here in twenty,
two twenty. Five and now we head to the Pay
Les lickers Hot line to get more into The Daniel jones.

(01:28:04):
Background he Is Pat leonard from The New York Daily
News Talking ball With Pat. Leonard that is the. Podcast
you can check him. Out we Appreciate pat's time here
on This monday. Morning. Pat good morning to, you. Sir
how are you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:28:17):
Great doing? Great, gentlemen how are you guys?

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
Doing we are. Wonderful we are hoping to get a
little bit more to The Daniel Jones giants. Experience of,
course The colts saw it first hand a couple of
years ago when they got absolutely drubbed there late in the.
Season when The giants did go on to make the
playoffs in that twenty twenty two, SEASON i guess let's
start with the. Good Shane stikeen oftentimes brings up that
twenty twenty two. Campaign Daniel jones was at his best

(01:28:42):
in that year because.

Speaker 5 (01:28:43):
Of WHAT.

Speaker 4 (01:28:45):
I, think Because Mike kafka as the play, caller and
he Utilized Daniel jones as much as a runner as
he did as a passing.

Speaker 5 (01:28:55):
Quarterback and.

Speaker 4 (01:28:58):
Not That Daniel jones can't be pocket, passer but in
that construct With Saquon barkley at running back And Daniel
jones at, quarterback not to, mention they had a defense
that they knew that they could rely, on and so
Really what it was about was In Brian ables' first
year With Wink martindale AT, dc they created a game,

(01:29:20):
plan like a strategy for how they were going to
win week in and week. Out it wasn't Just we're
going to roll the football out and play our. Game
it was we believe we can pressure teams with the
defense and then on offense rather than putting all On
Daniel jones's shoulders to throw for three hundred and fifty
yards and two touchdowns every, week that you could rely

(01:29:42):
on ball control and also kind of rein in some
of maybe the potential land mines out there For daniel
and the offense and count on a lower scoring but
more controlled way of winning. Games SO i think it
was tied to the strategy of the team's belief and

(01:30:03):
how they were going to, win but it also took
advantage of his strength and steered away from some of his.

Speaker 5 (01:30:08):
Weaknesses, again we.

Speaker 6 (01:30:10):
Have Pat lennard on the line with The Sea covers
Of giants For New York Daily news also has The
Talking ball With Pat. Lennard you can check that out
where you get your. Podcasts And, pat looking back at
that twenty twenty two, season they started off seven and
two in the year nine to seven and, one really
nine to six in one because the last game didn't
necessarily matter for their playoff, seeding but looking at just

(01:30:32):
the raw win lost total as, it you, know kind
of changed throughout the. Season did THE nfl sort of
figure them out at some point when you were covering?

Speaker 4 (01:30:41):
Them, yes, YEAH i. THINK i think really what it
came down to was roster, wise personnel, wise they were
not a strong team in many key, areas so they
were trying to work around with scheme a lot of let's,

(01:31:03):
say one on one matchups on the field that, teams
if they figured out they could, exploit could really start
turning the tide on The, giants and that's kind of
what happened in the second half of that. Year dable
as a head coach never been a particularly strong game,
manager and so getting them into tighter games or putting
them on their heels and having to force them to

(01:31:26):
throw late situations like, that you, know took The giants
out of control of games and put more on them
having to more obviously throw in the second half of.
Games you, Know Saquon barkley banged up for a slight
amount of that but, Generally, yeah if they were not

(01:31:47):
able to in the second half of that season control
the pace of the game with the running, game then
they found it harder to to ultimately come out on
top down the stretch of. It BUT i think it
was really more about the strength of the, roster you,
KNOW i think they just they didn't have any other
answers other than what they had generated early on and then.

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
Follow up to.

Speaker 8 (01:32:08):
That.

Speaker 6 (01:32:08):
PAT i know this is a broad, question but this
is the QUESTION i get often asked here In, indianapolis
is why didn't it work out With Daniel jones is
the guy who was a number six pick in twenty. Nineteen,
obviously they paid him with The giants after that playoff.
Run they wanted him to be their franchise, guy and
you look up now and he is trying to revive his.

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
Career i'm sorry with The.

Speaker 4 (01:32:31):
Colts, Yeah, NO i, MEAN i THINK i think the
reason that didn't work out With daniel In New. York you,
know there's a few. REASONS i, MEAN i would start
with the fact that early on Under Pat shermer in his,

(01:32:51):
career he really was finding the end zone pretty. Consistently
the issue was he was finding it while taking tons
of hits and also turning the ball over in the
backfield often you, know fumbles things like. That but the
main TAKEAWAY i think you have to remember from the
early part of his career is he was getting you,

(01:33:17):
know destroyed in the backfield behind a rough offensive, line
and so you saw the playmaking ability both with the
legs in the. Arm BUT i do believe. Them then
as he ended up With Joe judge staff And Jason
garrett offensive, coordinator then the turnover To brian Dabol Mi.
Kafka for, one he was learning new offenses every other,

(01:33:39):
year you, know at, least and two by the time
he got to a point where he had a little
bit more of a reliable scheme and stable, offense he,
was in my, opinion you, know shell shocked and more
likely to make a worse decision under. Duress and SO

(01:34:00):
i felt like that accumulated on, him you.

Speaker 5 (01:34:03):
KNOW i Think.

Speaker 4 (01:34:04):
Daniel's game comes down to he HAS i think a
lot of people look at him and they say he's
an intelligent quarterback and sometimes his skills let him, down
AND i think you need to look at him. Differently
he is extremely physically, gifted like there's nothing that he can't,

(01:34:24):
do you, know even out here watching you, Know jackson
dark throat now for The giants Versus Daniel jones's arm in,
Practice Like daniel has a much bigger. Arm but what
happens is when he gets into tight situations because of
all those hits he's, taken and the decision making element

(01:34:47):
isn't always there under. Pressure so it's more like unleash
him when you, can and then when it's in the tight,
moments when the field shrinks in the red, zone that's
where the coaches need to help him. Out and that's
where The giants didn't help him up and out or
help him out enough down the.

Speaker 1 (01:35:08):
Stretch The New York Daily news we can Find Pat
leonard's Work Talking ball With Pat, leonard his podcast for
chatting About Daniel jones's time with The. Giants just a
couple more from, Me, pat AND i guess one more
in The jones, front you, know off the, field maybe
in front of the, CAMERA i don't, know the top
ten pick and he starts playing poorly and he gets

(01:35:30):
swallowed up in The New york and media. Market you,
know that's that's a conversation THAT i feel like people
have asked me. ABOUT i don't NECESSARILY i Find Daniel.
Jones he strikes me as someone that seems like a nice.
GUY i don't definitely don't think it's back when he's.
Chatting how to describe Maybe Daniel jones more in that
area away from the exact play on the.

Speaker 4 (01:35:48):
Field, YEAH i MEAN I i had a conversation with
him about this one, time one on, one and he
chalked up his entire demeanor and the way he handles
press conferences and just the off field conversation in he,
Said i'm never going to do or say anything that's

(01:36:09):
going to put my teammates or my team in jeopardy
or in a negative. Light and that's his hiding, light you.
Know so if he feels like any question or sentiment
or storyline or narrative is headed in a direction that
isn't positive for the, team he you, know he has no.
Interest he will take you, know, Accountability he won't hesitate

(01:36:31):
to do. THAT i do think In New york it
took him too long, though to defend, himself to stand
up for himself when he, Spoke not that that would
have meant anything either, way because it ultimately was about
how you. Play BUT i do, think you, know the
confidence in, himself he always had, it BUT i think

(01:36:52):
you know he was able to whether it like thick,
skin handle the, pressure that kind of.

Speaker 5 (01:36:57):
Stuff you're absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:36:58):
RIGHT i mean his prescott are going to be intentionally.
Boring but he does have fire on the, field you
know he. Does he does have moments going back to
when he first came into the, league even of the
type of moxie in a huddle that gets people fired,
Up like right, Now Jackson dart is carrying that and

(01:37:20):
The giants are all rallying around. That BUT i was,
Here daniel was the, rookie and everyone was saying the
same exact stuff about. Him you, know the veterans were, Saying,
MAN i love this kid's. Energy you, KNOW i love
what he's. Saying game on the line in his FIRST
nfl start and he's telling us we're going to go
down and we're going to win.

Speaker 5 (01:37:36):
It you. Know so.

Speaker 4 (01:37:38):
What daniel is is he is an extremely, tough team
oriented person that if you think of him that way
every time you listen to him or talk to, him
then it'll all make.

Speaker 1 (01:37:50):
Sense so one.

Speaker 6 (01:37:52):
Quick follow up on, that and last one from, Me
pat talking to, him AND i tried to get him
to take the bay AND i was, like You New york,
People i'm gonna You pat for beating the life out
of this. Guy i'm, joking of, course but you know
the THING i asked him when he got, HERE i,
said you came here to win a, job so do
you think he can win? It he never really went,
there and even though he's won it, now he's still
won't go. There but as someone who's obviously covered him

(01:38:13):
a lot longer THAN i, can you maybe expand a
little bit more on just a competitive fire you perhaps
have seen from him in certain, moments BECAUSE i think
that is WHAT i am kind of itching to see
now he's going to be playing and if that'll come
out on the, field if it'll come out on a
post game speech that we might not, see but just
how did that manifest hisself for a guy WHO i,
mean could, be in my, opinion a very, nice, like you,

(01:38:36):
know librarian or dentist or. Something But i'm, like, no
you're not. That YOU'RE nfl, quarterback.

Speaker 5 (01:38:42):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:38:43):
No the number one way you'll see it is him
trying to like run a safety. OVER i, mean you
know that he in his, career it's actually gotten him in.
Trouble like many quarterbacks who can, run you, know it's
always that decision of whendy you, slide when do you
step out of? Bounds all those. Things daniel is not

(01:39:04):
afraid of. Contact he's often looking for, it you. Know
now he has worked very hard throughout his career though
to adjust to. That but the fire that you're talking,
ABOUT i think you're going to see it most when
he's when he's using his. Legs if you go back
to last year's win In seattle for The, giants and

(01:39:25):
again they only had three so it's not hard to,
find but he had a few moments in that game
where it was, like out of the, darkness here comes you, Know,
daniel The Daniel jones with nothing to lose type attitude about.
Him but it most, often again even in that, game

(01:39:45):
it showed up when he was taking off and, running
and that's you, KNOW i WAS i was eager to
have this conversation with you guys BECAUSE i don't know
what type of offense they're installing right now there as
you've watched practice every, day but like If i'm, Stiching
i'm dusting off My eagles playbook With Jalen, hurts AND i,

(01:40:07):
mean you know you're probably not Running daniel the same
amount you Run. Jalen But i'm Using i'm making this
offense and offense where the quarterback and the running Back
Jonathan taylor are read optioning teams to death until they
bring an extra safety down and Then i'm throwing it
because that is not only using one of his best

(01:40:28):
skills as a, quarterback it also Gets daniel into the.
Game like that is what gets him into, games is
running into and through.

Speaker 1 (01:40:37):
Contact you're running into and through contact And Anthony richardson
and all of a sudden people are starting to get
a little squeam of share on This monday. MORNING i
do think THE rpo, Aspect, JAMES i think you AND
i have seen. It, yeah that can be very effective
with him so. Far all, Right, pat we appreciate the.
Time we'll end with. This we Had Tyrone tracy and

(01:40:59):
studio about a month. Ago great great, story a local
kid here to The indy area obviously had a really
nice rookie. Season how is year two leading into? That
going For Tyron tracy would expect kind of the role
here With Brian.

Speaker 4 (01:41:12):
Dabele, yeah he's the lead guy right. Now ball security
remains a continued. Emphasis he had one in a practice
and one in a preseason. Game you, know both of,
them he was just down before the ball came. Out
that's something that bit him last, year whether it was
catching the ball or. Running so he has to continue
to emphasize. That but you, know as you, know as

(01:41:35):
a converted receiver has a ton of athleticism. Versatility they
Have Camp scataboo now that they drafted in addition To
Devin singletary in the. Backfield but you, Know skataboo will
eat Into tracy's you, know touches and his role there
particularly maybe in short yarded. Situations he's even a good.
Receiver BUT i think the way you look at it

(01:41:57):
is in THE nfl now most teams can't get away
with just one, guy and you know they're expecting exciting
things From tracy this.

Speaker 1 (01:42:04):
Year New York Daily news and again it Is Talking
ball With Pat. Leonard that is the. Podcast There Pat
leonard with us here on The Payless Liquors. Hotline, pat
thank you times a. Million we appreciate. IT i, know
talking About Daniel jones might not be what you want
to be doing right. Now you're busy with your own,
beat but we greatly appreciate.

Speaker 3 (01:42:21):
It.

Speaker 5 (01:42:22):
Now daniel's the. MAN i hope he.

Speaker 4 (01:42:23):
SUCCEEDS i think people are underselling the impact he's going to.

Speaker 5 (01:42:26):
Have on the.

Speaker 1 (01:42:27):
Team thank, You Pat leonard right there on The Payloss
slickers hotline to echo that this From Brandon, james this
interview is me be more fired up For Danny. Dimes
Can shane unleash it and call a game to his?

Speaker 6 (01:42:39):
Strengths that is the, Question and to kind of piggyback
off of What Pat leonard said and even what you
said last, Week, kevin the play calling will be essential and,
vital like it always is with. Quarterbacks BUT i think
in this case in, particular there are obvious things That
Daniel jones might have issues, with some of that being decision.
Making he's been a guy who's had a lot of

(01:43:01):
turnovers throughout his. CAREER i believe it's seventy three turnovers
and seventy games for his. Career, ALSO i want to
say it's eighty five total touchdowns in seventy, games and
so there is a not a huge gap between touchdowns
and turnovers for. Him, however that season that he did
helped the team get to the. Playoffs with The New York,
giants we saw a lot of decision making be sort

(01:43:21):
of decided for him with the play call and kind
of streamlining some, things making a simple form using him
as a. Runner and, So, KEVIN i go back to
what you said last week of this is as much
a bet On Daniel jones as is On Shane stike
and betting on himself and his play calling and believing
THAT i can help this guy as long as he's
not erratic like and They richardson showed himself to. BE

(01:43:44):
i can bet on myself to call plays for this,
guy put him in a position to. Win we can
go out there and, again the belief all along internally
with the culture of the last couple of years has
been we just get ADEQUATE qb, played not, great just,
average maybe slightly above AVERAGE qb play be a playoff.

Speaker 1 (01:44:00):
Team i'll never forget the combine this past, Year, james
and you see this occasionally in THE nfl with young
first time head. Coaches they will take on all the
responsibility and then, realize oh, boy it's a little. Overwhelming
let me, Delicate Nick sirianni being a poster child of.
It Nick sirianni initially was the play caller with The Philadelphia,

(01:44:20):
eagles and then he passed that off To Shane. Styken ironically,
enough and SO i Asked shane at the, COMBINE i
go again for young first time head, coaches AND i, think,
admittedly you saw last Season shane had some issues with
some of the head coaching responsibilities within that locker room
and how you know the standard was being achieved To
SO i Asked, shane, hey has there been any thought

(01:44:43):
about you giving up play calling? Duties and that man
looked at me LIKE i was an absolute idiot for
asking that. QUESTION i bring that up to say he.
Is If Shane stikeen's cocky about, anything it's his play.
Calling and so he is, going, yes he belie leaves in.
It he obviously believes in the skill group around. HIM

(01:45:03):
i think we've had this conversation before in The ballared.
Era you could make the argument this might be the
best skill group he's. Had when you think About, taylor
you think About Tyler, warren you think about the depth
of wide, out this is a very good skill. Group
when you compare it to other. Years they're betting on
all of, that betting on all of, that of, course
betting on the offensive line to still stay at the,

(01:45:25):
level which that one might be more of a question mark.
Here but, YEAH i think you. CAN i think we
hit on this last. Week my win total is not
it is probably gonna be right on eight or nine
when we get to that point this time next. WEEK
i Think Daniel jones thing can stay. Afloat the thing
is it creates a defined, ceiling and is that what

(01:45:47):
you want from your franchise. Quarterback that's obviously a bigger
conversation for. It it is a bigger, day all, Right Nate
atkins and Ten Mark, dydon let's check it out the
morning checkdown On Nutty sweet five And.

Speaker 5 (01:46:02):
James.

Speaker 1 (01:46:02):
Boyd the hardest position that you had to cut down
was what as we await the four o'clock deadline for
tomorrow ninety to fifty three around THE nfl roster. Cuts,
OH i want to, say it might be.

Speaker 6 (01:46:16):
Offensive line or, cornerback, CORNERBACK i could go either. Way,
Well i'll say, this the lines in, general the trenches
are always kind of tough for. Me and in cornerback
because even THOUGH i pick seven to make the, roster
which seven will it?

Speaker 8 (01:46:29):
Be?

Speaker 6 (01:46:29):
Seven will be? SIX i was going back and forth a.

Speaker 1 (01:46:31):
Lot, yeah trenches are always hard BECAUSE i Know Chris
ballor wants to keep more THAN i.

Speaker 6 (01:46:35):
DO i, know and Whenever i'm, like AM i just
being a little bit too low right?

Speaker 1 (01:46:39):
Here BECAUSE i know this? GUY i know him. Well so,
Yeah balat wants to keep ten on both, lines And i'm,
like oh, boy the guy's nine on both lines got
so many inactive then on game. Day so, again we'll
continue to dive deeper into roster cuts here the rest
of this, show and also coming up. Tomorrow speaking up,
tomorrow The fever back in action at. Home it is
A seattle, storm AND i don't think it's hyperbole at

(01:47:02):
all to call this the biggest week in The fevers. Season.
Here they lose yesterday In, minnesota no real shock. There
THE Fisa collier returned and looked like THE mvp in this.
League The fever really lost that game after the first,
quarter very entertaining opening, quarter but The links asserted their
dominance there in the. Second. James right now The fever
eighth in the. Standings they will face, six, seven and

(01:47:25):
nine in the. Standings all this week that is The Seattle,
storm The Golden State, valkyries and The La. Sparks the
latter two start their final big road trip of the.
Year just what an absolutely massive week to make the? Playoffs,
yeah for The fever and what is a very jumbled six,
seven eight nine top eight make the? Playoffs.

Speaker 6 (01:47:44):
Yeah part of me is, like, man what a tough
position to be in for The. Fever but at the same,
time if you're a, competitor WHICH i know all of
them on that, team For Kelsey mitchell and, others it's
almost like you have to get into that playoff mold,
Already like this is do or, die AND i do
Trust Kelsey mitchell to obviously do. Her thing is just
can you get enough of the teammates around her and
really defensively as, well can you do enough defensively to

(01:48:07):
give yourself a chance to get into the, playoffs to
get to the.

Speaker 1 (01:48:09):
Dance the broom's out for The. Cubs it's actually a legit,
sweep not one of those two Gamers Mark dyketon to
try to run around the circle naked for earlier this.
Year they sweep The angels and they are five back
in THE Nl. Central do we believe that that central
is up for grabs or is this, say just strengthen
your wildcard?

Speaker 7 (01:48:30):
Position, uh talk to me after this next series against The.
Giants if they can take two out of three against
The giants and The brewers continue to kind of stumble
a little. BIT i, mean we get down to three,
games it's a whole new ballgame. Now so talk to
me On. Thursday is there another series of The? Brewers,
no that was. It they had the five game stretch

(01:48:51):
a wrigglely was? It so this is all you, know
we need some things to fall your way at this, Point.

Speaker 1 (01:48:55):
Red's desperately needed. One yesterday they got it there one
and a half back in the wildcard as they continue
to play Out. West what a race it was For
Christian rasmussen Of Ed Carpenter racing yesterday on these very.
Airwaves The IndyCar season was up In milwaukee on that
oval and it Was rasmussen Passing Alex plow with about
fifteen to go on the. Outside what one, of honestly

(01:49:18):
the highlights of the. YEAR i thought for sure they
were gonna touch and it wasn't gonna end well for,
one if not both of. Them but what a move
it was as he gets his first career, win first
win For Ed Carpenter racing in four years There AND
i did see a report earlier today From Nathan brown
does a great job covering The star or Covering IndyCar
for The, star mentioning that f THE f one team

(01:49:41):
Of Red bull has some interest In Alex. Palow so
welcome to that off season storyline For. IndyCar they are
In nashville to close out their season coming up this,
Weekend James Boyd week one of the high school Football
you were over on The east, side, Correct.

Speaker 6 (01:49:57):
Yes shout out TO i Believe Juju brince is alma.
Mater They're Warren. Central they lost To Center grove twenty
four to, six BUT i think that game was a
little bit closer than the score would, predicted got a
little bit lopsided, late but it was just good to
be around that. Environment but also shout out to The
Warren central. BAND i believe they've won state titles or
something recently or what they were. FANTASTIC i, mean it was.

(01:50:21):
PHENOMENAL i was, like this is WHAT i missed about
some of the you KNOW nfl experiences That i've, had
and you, know even some of the college experiences you don't.
Get like the high school, band you could tell they
put a lot of work into their routine and. HALFTIME
i was loving. IT i feel like a proud, parent
even THOUGH i am not. ONE i Love james would
have the iPad, out who's taking? Recordings, YEAH i told,
YOU i was looking to see which, Parents and, YES

(01:50:43):
i saw many parents who were criticizing the, coach criticizing the,
refs and had the iPad out for all their kids
highlights and so it was everything THAT i loved and
missed about covering high school. Sports and, Honestly, KEVIN i
thought to myself real, quick it's, like, man it's been
seven years SINCE i covered my first high school game
in this, state and so full soccer mom before you,
Boy AND i was grateful to be.

Speaker 1 (01:51:02):
There welcome back high school. Sports yelling at the refs
and the coaches. There wouldn't have it any other. Way
Collin kaffer shout out To North, central ending that thirty
two game losing. Streak they Beat rebuff there in week.
One new coach. There i've heard great things about, him
so shout out to The. Panthers Tommy fleetwood gets it
down on THE Pga tour their tour. Championship he wins

(01:51:23):
for the first time in his very IMPRESSIVE Pga tour.
Career easily the label of best player to never win
now remove from. Him that was a pretty cool scene
yesterday In atlanta And carson wentz back in THE nfl
the backup TO jj McCarthy with The Minnesota. Vikings so
the man that Calls zinsville, home he now will Call
minneapolis home for a brief period here With Ryan kelly

(01:51:46):
And Will fryes as he joins The. Vikings all, right
speaking of people on the, MOVE i don't know if
he's ready to share just. Yet he. Is Nate atkins
from The Indianapolis. Star he covers The, colts and we'll
offer his thoughts on the team that he will no
longer cover here coming up on the other, Side Nate
akins And Andy starneck.

Speaker 5 (01:52:07):
On The Fan Morning. SHOW i heard that a little.

Speaker 8 (01:52:12):
Bit of banter About Notre dame making The National title,
game and you're, right it's not everyone makes it.

Speaker 5 (01:52:17):
There some teams win it when they.

Speaker 1 (01:52:18):
DO i could feel the knife already in. THERE i
was wondering when he was gonna twist it. Up you are,
roasted toasted and burn To. Chris you. Know it was
ABOUT i don't. KNOW a couple of weeks. Ago i'm

(01:52:40):
standing there At Grand park and Watching colts practice next
to our next, Guest Nate atkins from The Indianapolis, star
and he informs me of, uh he will be moving
on from The colts. Beat i'll Let nate share whenever
he feels the need to what exactly he will be doing.
Next but INSIDE i thought back to That mark dyked

(01:53:01):
and clip that was just played there From Nate atkins
appearing on the, show AND i, thought you know, What,
Nate i'm not going to miss you. Man you, know
do you smell that mark at? All you?

Speaker 6 (01:53:11):
KNOW i THINK i smell a little beef this, morning
and you're drinking this.

Speaker 1 (01:53:15):
Morning notice every time it gets brought up in the media.
Room there he is over, THERE i mean, him AND
i can not be further in the. Room he's on
the far, Left i'm on the far, right and he
just throws another, jay just a subtle jab in. There So,
Nate i'm supposed to say nice, things BUT i won't miss.

Speaker 5 (01:53:30):
YOU i know that's what she.

Speaker 8 (01:53:32):
Said is like the last time we were in that media,
room he just, said when are you leaving?

Speaker 5 (01:53:35):
Again, like dang, it here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:53:37):
Again in all, seriousness, CONGRATS i GUESS i will leave
it open to you to share anything if you want
to OR i know some people have, Asked, hey what's
What's nate going to be? Doing but it sounds like
that'll be announced here. Soon is that?

Speaker 8 (01:53:54):
Correct, yeah it's gonna be announced by the new Place
i'm going, to so just gotta be a little patient with.
It but you, know my Wife day was supposed to
Be saturday's preseason, game but you know the way this.
Goes still got some writing to do and things, linger
so that's Why i'm on here talking and Then i'll
be writing a final story and Then i'll be moving
later this, week but staying staying in the same kind of.

(01:54:17):
Realm i'll be doing something, similar just somewhere. Else so
uh but, yeah it'll Be. Uh i'll miss you guys
and Miss india missed The colt, spat but uh, yeah
on a on a different.

Speaker 5 (01:54:27):
ADVENTURE i GUESS.

Speaker 6 (01:54:28):
I will SAY i Believe nate will have a banger
story THAT i kind of know a little bit, about
not obviously a whole lot about because he's the, writer
but stay tuned for. That but for the here and, Now,
nate we did wrap up with the. Preseason we do
know For week one the startups all sort of giving
our pena on the, decision right and why in least
in my, EYES i would have Chose Anthony richardson or

(01:54:50):
Why shane sty can't Believe Anthony richardson isn't ready. Yet
but for the sake of this, Conversation Daniel jones is the.
Guy they're rolling with, Him so in your, mind what
things can they do to help him get back to
that level he played at which ultimately helped The giants
to get to the, playoffs albeit three years.

Speaker 8 (01:55:08):
Ago it's kind of interesting the setup that they have
right now when they relate it back to that twenty
twenty Two giants, season because that was the year That
Saquon barkley went, crazy and it just complimented really well
That Daniel jones play safe and efficiently of the lowest
interception percentage in the, league so he only threw fifteen touchdown,
passes but he only had five interceptions and ran really

(01:55:31):
well in addition To Saquon, barkley so they've got that
With Jonathan. Taylor it's also interesting that they have The
giants assisted offensive line coach at the time and The
giants running backs coach at the, Time so they are
really trying to recreate a lot of what that offense
was while banking on an idea of their offensive line being.
Stronger you're having a lot better weapons for him to throw.

(01:55:52):
To he didn't really have that at that. Time he
didn't really have it outside of the weak neighbors for
just like ten games last. Season so they're hoping that
if they can get him in a passing game that
that can distribute the ball to players in space That
shamestick can scheme, up whether it's manner zone coverage in
bank on yac, plays that they can do that With Michael, Pitman,

(01:56:14):
Junior Alec, Pearce Josh, Downs Tommy, ward And Aady.

Speaker 5 (01:56:18):
Mitchell you.

Speaker 8 (01:56:19):
Know so they're really banking on everybody else being the
stars around the. Quarterback that's what's flips so. Much since
they Drafted Athey, richardson he was supposed to eventually become
that guy who elevates everything around him and part of,
IT i think is that they believe Their steven core
is a lot better than it was when they Drafted
anthony in twenty twenty. Three and part of it is
just that they've they've really hammered in on or zoned

(01:56:43):
in on the sort of operational consistency type, stuff, which
to be honest with, YOU i don't know That Daniel
jones is WHAT i would call. CONSISTENT i do think
he is a guy that is a little bit More
he's more durable Than, anthony and he's more accurate on
the short range, passes and you, know he is more,
operational and so they're going to bank on scheme and you,

(01:57:04):
know surrounding talent to elevate. Him and they've got to
stay healthy, though BECAUSE i don't think this model is
going to work If Jonathan taylor goes, down and you
can say the same thing for a couple of these
skilled players in offensive. Linemen so if everything kind of
goes the way they want it to with the offense
Around Daniel, jones he can kind of be that guy who,

(01:57:25):
distributes AND i think that's what they're banking, on.

Speaker 1 (01:57:27):
And That's Nate Akins Inneapolis star on The colts beat
for not much, longer but he's with us here on
This monday. Morning. NATE i thought you did an excellent
piece last, week kind of ten thoughts, on you, know
the starting Of Daniel jones and maybe the missteps The
colts took With Anthony. Richardson was there a point in
there that you found particularly? Interesting is you, know you
went way, back you, know all the way to that

(01:57:49):
twenty twenty three draft, process WHICH i thought was a
nice in depth look at the entire What i've labeled
kind of an organizational.

Speaker 8 (01:57:55):
Failure, yeah WHAT i do IS i just go back
to that spring and how pretty much they spent every
waking hour in the spring of twenty twenty three to
figure out what quarterback they were going to, take and
that drove the higher Of Shane steiken and you and
all the guys that they, interviewed you, know had these
thoughts and ideas prepared about the quarterbacks in that draft

(01:58:19):
and what they were looking. For and if you go
back to what they said almost all the way pretty
much up until the, combine They Chris ballard And Shane
stike and both talked about how much they liked trades
such as accuracy and leadership and the obsession of the,
position and there ultimately was one PLAYER i think they
were really talking about that ended up in that, draft

(01:58:41):
which was. C. J. Stroud and the problem, though is
they got to the combine Where Anthony richardson gets out
there and he puts on the greatest show that the
league has ever seen at the quarterback, position and they're
combining that with these reports From Morocco brown down at
The florida practices about this guy's making some of the
throws and plays on the run that he's never even.

(01:59:01):
Seen he had enough having a quote later on where
he said That Anthony richardson's floor is higher than most quarterback.
Ceiling and so they just got really wrapped up in
the hype of this. Quarterback it was very exciting at the,
time and the whole league was trying to understand.

Speaker 5 (01:59:16):
Quite what this guy can.

Speaker 8 (01:59:17):
Be when he did it started very much and he
had a completion precentaion a low with the talent was so,
outrageous AND i think they banked on the idea That
Shane stiken could work with a lot of different, quarterbacks
whether that was you, Know Jalen hurts as a mobile
quarterback and whether that Was Philip rivers as a pocket,
Quarterback but that was only true, STYLISTICALLY i think in.

Speaker 5 (01:59:37):
Terms of are they, runners are they? Throwers are they deep?
Ball are they short?

Speaker 8 (01:59:40):
Range what he had never really done is develop a
kid who has not played before and didn't have this
kind of baseline of knowledge and wasn't already obsessive at the.
Position he had something very different In Jalen hurts And
Justin herbert who played.

Speaker 5 (01:59:55):
So much in.

Speaker 8 (01:59:56):
College and so that's WHAT i think stood out to
me is just a they abandoned what they were looking
for in a quarterback for just about a one month
stretch OR i guess two month stretch between the combine
and draft. Day but also they let a draft board
spit out a quarterback to them because they didn't want
to trade. Up so by the time they had the
number four, pick you, know they definitely liked The Anthony

(02:00:18):
richardson more Than Will, levis but it wasn't An Anthony
richardson VERSUS. Cj Strad de date in their eyes because
they weren't going to trade up to make that. Call
they couldn't find the conviction and they were in love
With anthony enough to do. It so there's a lot
to be excited for With Anthony, richardson BUT i don't
think it fit the sort of conviction and plan you
need to make these kind of quarterbacks.

Speaker 6 (02:00:38):
Work so to pivot away from the quarterback composition, Briefly,
nate we know that tomorrow is cut down. Day hit
you three mater. ROSTER i do not believe you will
be on it since you're leaving. Us, however when you
look at some of these position, battles what group do
you think might have like the closest call or is
there somebody in mind that you think you know should

(02:01:00):
make the, team might not make the. Team just what
do you who are some bubble guys send out to?

Speaker 8 (02:01:03):
You, yeah Well i'll say the first cut's already in
because that's. Me but going on actual guys on the
team that won't be, here you, KNOW i think IT'S
i think injuries took out a lot of the surprises
as far as like guys that are actually going to,
cut you, know just Losing Hunter waller And Justin, wally
and if they end up moving a couple other guys injured,

(02:01:25):
reserve LIKE i think they're considering With Jalen jones And
Jalen carlis are two guys that could be options for.
THAT i don't think they're going to end up cutting
guys that you otherwise would be that surprised, about but
it doesn't mean they're going to keep a few guys
that that might not have otherwise made. IT i Think Jonathan,
edwards the undirafted, cornerback is one of those that's going

(02:01:46):
to make, it partly because they've just had so many injuries,
there but they really like what they've seen out of
him from like a recovery speed. Standpoint it's similar to
When Dallas flowers was that undrafted player and he could
he just had all this athleticism and they wanted to
tap to that and see what they can do with.
It it fits well better and this is and than

(02:02:06):
the last with Lou An arumo playing a lot of
man coverage and he is, not in their, eyes looked
scared or panicked out. There so he has a lot
to work, on of, course but he seems to have
enough of the instincts and feel and confidence for the.
Position with the recovery, SPEED i think that's going to
be a guy that's going to surprise you a few,
people and THEN i Think Daniel scott sort of sealed

(02:02:29):
his entrance to the fifty three man roster with the
pick six and just having a healthy camp for the
first time after he's missed two. Seasons, like the front
office has always really Loved Daniel. Scott they have an
opening it backed up strong safety After Hunter waller's, injury
and they like what he does on special. Teams so
those are a couple of guys THAT i think coming

(02:02:50):
into camp people weren't really talking about or thinking about.

Speaker 5 (02:02:53):
THAT i think are going to make this team. Well.

Speaker 1 (02:02:56):
Nate as much as it pains me to say, it
it is a sincere we will miss, YOU i guess
MAYBE i don't know If i'm allowed to say, it
maybe in early, congrats BUT i won't miss The Ohio
state banter by any. Means but, no in all, seriousness
loved just watching you. Work, great great written, work AND
i thought very thorough and just the questions you asked

(02:03:17):
and always found. Myself, man that's a great. QUESTION i
really feel like that's going to lead to an awesome.
Answer so we're gonna miss you here.

Speaker 6 (02:03:24):
Man before we say it off and they, do you
have like a favorite, story favorite, game you, cover favorite,
moment give us some some of your favorites on the way.

Speaker 8 (02:03:32):
Out, okay, well, YEAH i, appreciate definitely appreciate working with
both of you guys who also grind like none other
to do it on the radio and then show up every.

Speaker 5 (02:03:40):
DAY i just get to do one of, those so
it's a little easier.

Speaker 8 (02:03:43):
To work hard on my my. Lane but, yeah there's
there's so many memories in just three and a half,
seasons and WHEN i go back to you, know we
could focus on some of the craziest stories that will ever.
Happen i've never heard, of you, know contract, dispute the
way That Jonathan taylor had it with the tweets being
traded back and, forth And Jim mersey coming off a
luxury buffs for a postgame press conference of, sorts The

(02:04:06):
Jet saturday introduction and that whole ride was. Crazy but to,
me on the positive, END i just think to a
couple of Performances i've never seen. Before you, know that
Was Jonathan taylor against The bills in twenty twenty, one
when he ran for four touchdowns and caught one against
the number one. Defense just a moment where everyone knew
in the stadium who's getting the ball and absolutely nobody

(02:04:27):
could do anything about.

Speaker 5 (02:04:28):
It and Then Matt gay in twenty twenty three In.

Speaker 8 (02:04:31):
Baltimore it's shocking to think that they took Down Lamar
jackson on the road With Gardner minshew And zach moss
is their, backfield and they did it because they had
a kicker who hit was it four fifty plus field
goals and including a game winner and actually out Did
Justin tucker in his. Building so those two performances kind

(02:04:52):
of stand out to me as, like as rocky as
this has been and crazy as it's, been and maybe
not high end ceiling for the most, part there's two
performance is THAT i would put up there with ANY
fc in my.

Speaker 1 (02:05:02):
Career, YEAH I i would certainly echo all of. That weell,
Night we're gonna miss your. Brother thank you for making
time for us here and we will certainly chat with
you down the.

Speaker 5 (02:05:11):
Road, yep thanks as, always, Guys.

Speaker 1 (02:05:14):
Nate, adkins good human right there on The Payless liquors hot.
Line we'll do it one final time. Here this is
The Fan Morning show on A monday h, right one
final time, Here Fan Morning show on A. Monday thank
you for spending the start of your week with. Us
jeff should be back tomorrow. Again a lot of roster
cut chatter coming up tomorrow due by four o'clock ninety

(02:05:36):
to fifty Three tuesday. Afternoon do want to make sure
you know when we do The monday, show your new
Cycle knolly goes back a little bit To, friday and
when our show ends at ten, am oftentimes stuff can
you know break on That friday and you kind of
forget About it's thank you To Todd, meyer executive, producer
for mentioning this of the passing Of Forrest lucas which

(02:05:57):
we saw over the. Weekend obviously the namesake on that
building that Is Lucas Oil, stadium and just an unbelievable filanthropic, side,
honestly very similar To jim irsay in what you know
he has meant to the state and for people that
have been on property up there to That Lucas Oil,
state tons of events that have been up, there again

(02:06:19):
many of them from the philanthropic. Side you grew up
in Southern indiana and not only did a ton in
the racing, world but again obviously on the side Of
Lucas Oil, stadium And i'm pretty Sure, james that is
going to be The pacers jersey patch for this. Year
i'm pretty Sure Lucas oil in their product is, yes
that's gonna be on their jersey. Patch so, again just

(02:06:39):
a person that obviously has done a lot for the
sports community in our, state but just strictly filanthropic side as.
Well so rest in peace to him and To kadi
and his entire. Family thoughts and.

Speaker 6 (02:06:52):
Prayers, yeah there's a story in The Indie star Titled Forrest,
lucas the unlikely self made multi millionaire namesake Of Cold
stadium Dies and so if you want to hear something
about how he kind of grew up and the things
that he, overcame because this is a guy who grew
up in poverty early on in his life and then
turned himself into a self, made you, know very, fortunate

(02:07:14):
well off due worth five hundred million dollars and obviously
it means lots of this. State SO i would encourage
you to read that story In Indie.

Speaker 1 (02:07:21):
Star So Lucas oil was, built what was the first,
Year oh eight oh, seven that sound, Right i'm looking
Old bear's first Game. MARK i remember At fortey ran
wild that, night.

Speaker 6 (02:07:35):
So twenty fashion.

Speaker 1 (02:07:37):
THERE i do remember that twenty years after that would
be coming up. Right there was a year twenty years
on good, Lord, yeah twenty years he's naming rights to
the side of the stadium, there SO i guess that's
coming up. RIGHT i mean twenty we're looking at twenty twenty,
seven twenty twenty, eight something like. That so, yeah that is, Crazy,
mark when you say that out, loud twenty years For Lucas, soil.

Speaker 7 (02:08:00):
Those things where other people say, like oh, seven oh,
wait you're like all those ten years, ago like actually
it was almost.

Speaker 1 (02:08:03):
Twenty my good, GOD i know How LIKE i had
an old high school in eight And i'm, like, BOY
i could probably use another hair. Transplant h speaking of,
you well After Notre dame loses?

Speaker 5 (02:08:12):
It high? School?

Speaker 1 (02:08:14):
Wait was that, needed, Timeout? James?

Speaker 5 (02:08:16):
So was that?

Speaker 1 (02:08:16):
Needed all those a little drive by My? MARK i, say,
DANG i THOUGHT i was supposed to be the scrooge this.

Speaker 7 (02:08:21):
Morning Mister, Mark Dave, adkins he already hung up. On
we're making name do under. You we're all friends. Here
we're just making jokes or s having.

Speaker 1 (02:08:28):
Fun you'll, say no laughing manner when it comes to
under name.

Speaker 6 (02:08:33):
The tito's vodka hat does make everything you say a bit.

Speaker 1 (02:08:36):
Funny it is already take you. Serious it's my most comfortable.
Hat so that's why a warred. Here, Yeah i'm gonna say.

Speaker 6 (02:08:41):
Yeah people will tell me all the. Time liquor makes
you a little more. Comfortable could hand little this morning
if you feel a little chili walking, Outside i'm sorry to.
Interrupt you had a high, School, yes it'speaking a high
school in our throwbag. Days we got a text From
jordan through the text, line he, says thanks for shouting
out The Warren central. Band my daughter is in into
practices and structures are. Intense, JORDAN i could, tell but
also could tell the kids had a great time out.

(02:09:03):
There to shout out to your daughter and all of
her friends and what they were able to, do because
that is what makes me love high school, athletics not
just the, athletes but everything else around. There LIKE i,
said the crazy, parents the great, bands the concession stands
all the. Above it was really cool and Also Warren
central apparently had like a yeehaw like kind of cowboy
type of theme for their student. Section one of their

(02:09:25):
Alums i'm blanking on the. Name i'm so, sorry but
they brought live horses to the. Game well that was
really cool too as.

Speaker 1 (02:09:30):
Well through the.

Speaker 6 (02:09:31):
Gates, yeah they had some live horses. There AS i
was walking, In i'm looking over, like, oh there's a
couple of horses just. Around and all the kids had
on cowboy hats and all the you know girls had
on you, know their their boots and things like, that
and the boys as. Well so it was a really
cool high school. Night and honestly it brings back a
lot of good.

Speaker 1 (02:09:49):
Memories, Boy and this week looks, AWESOME i mean for
all fall sports just looks great week from a weather,
standpoint and hopefully friday'll be. That and even if you're
tailgating And bloomington Or slafayette On saturday looks to be.
OUTSTANDING i. DO i mean there's just something out of,
note just the, pageantry the band. ATMOSPHERE i do love
that about high school and college. Sports you just don't

(02:10:12):
get that in pro. Sports obviously pro sports are different
and it's, great BUT i don't, Know i'm such a
sucker for like the COLLEGE i, mean clearly the college
tradition atmosphere and even Like friday, nights you hear the
band play, him get the cheerleaders making the big. SIGNS

(02:10:32):
i love.

Speaker 7 (02:10:32):
It, YEAH i Think friday we're gonna have to pump
some like college football like stadium jams For. Friday this,
PUMPER i love, that just a straight jock jams re. Entry,
yeah and Momby nation jump around Mister bright's.

Speaker 5 (02:10:47):
Side.

Speaker 1 (02:10:48):
You, OH i love. It Your Brownsburg bulldogs against My
irish coming. Up, yeah we might have to make a friendly,
wager not not of the mondo, kind but maybe you
know something.

Speaker 6 (02:10:56):
Else but, yeah well we Have Operation Football friday these
days now With Dominic miranda OF. Wchr so if you
want to get a little bit of a high school,
flavor seven thirty am Every, friday.

Speaker 1 (02:11:09):
He's up on the podcast. Again we just caught up
in the nine o'clock hour if you missed it right
the start With Pat leonard who Covered Daniel jones with
The giants for whatever it was six total. YEARS i
guess five and a half Years Daniel jones spent out,
there AND i would say several people are pretty optimistic
after listening to that. Conversation and you, know, AGAIN i

(02:11:30):
think there are two levels to The Daniel jones story
that will continue to get into before we get to
a week From sunday and the culture playing. FOOTBALL i
think this can be a season that has sniffing around
a playoff. Spot but also is that the, guy the, guy,

(02:11:50):
yeah the guy you know All caps. Bold oh, yeah
here's three years sixty. Million here's no draft pick quarterback
in twenty twenty, six here's no draft. Pick those are
two very different questions in my mind with, that so
we'll continue to dive deeper into that throughout probably quiet,

(02:12:10):
night right quiet. Night sports, WISE i think we started
TRANSIT Us Open. Tennis some people are into that throughout the,
week but baseball take center. Stage we'll get to the
little college football here and. Again roster cuts coming tomorrow
due by Four. Eastern so thank you To Pat leonard
of The New York Daily. News thank you To Nate
atkins from The Indianapolis, Star Mark, Dyton James boyd And Kevin.

(02:12:31):
Bowen Jeff ricords should be back. Tomorrow so our lineup
today has got you. Covered it'll Be jake And eddie
from noon to, Three james And john coming from three to.
Six we'll talk to you tomorrow right here on the

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