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October 14, 2024 69 mins

Pulitzer Prize-winning critic Emily Nussbaum joins us to explore the roots of reality television. Forget the Real World - reality tv started way earlier than you think. And there's a paradox at the heart of the genre Emily's new book, Cue the Sun, invites us to sit with. We explore everything from Candid Camera to Hell's Kitchen to Love is Blind. Whether you're part of Bachelor Nation or couldn't care less about which housewives are real, this episode will surprise and delight!

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